I opened my project
#ue4-general
crude jasper
opened the map
crashed
the map has something that is crashing
installed Debugging symbols
and i know what is failing or the error
but i dont know how to delete it
its in the map
Assertion failed: LineMaterial != nullptr [File:D:\Build++UE4\Sync\Engine\Source\Editor\VREditor\VREditorFloatingText.cpp] [Line: 97]
this is what i got
manic pawn
@cloud cobalt the reply I got from him was basically, they will verify your editor build to make sure you didn't completely fuck it up, aren't using any marketplace assets you don't have a license to distribute in unpackaged format, then host it on the launcher for free
crude jasper
how do i delete the floating text
cloud cobalt
@manic pawn Would marketplace assets be a problem ? As in, we use some, how can we still do it ? Cooked only ?
winged crypt
Are dynamic reflection captures possible in UE yet? I want to set one up inside a moving train but it kinda feels like I might have to animate everything around the train just to keep the reflection capture inside working properly
grim sinew
No.
winged crypt
Darn
crude jasper
Can someone please help me ??
i need to end this project by monday and what i had going isnt finished yet..
grim sinew
Make better lightmap UVs manually.
All Unreal does is pack the UVs. It can’t cut or sew them. So there’s nothing on the Unreal side that can be done about it.
manic pawn
@cloud cobalt dunno, I didn't ask for more details on that, but I assume you would need to get approval from the asset authors or something like that?
plush marsh
@west bane Of course you can. You just need create another uv channel and do your uv there, but for a couple thousand assets better look for script or add-on.
viscid canyon
Can you add a pain causing volume to meshes that would cause a player pain? Such as at the edge of a blade
grim sinew
Yes you can. Of course. That’s how all damage is done.
ember thorn
hello, anyone know a way to recognize objects in a AR scene with Android in UE4?
paper kernel
yea no
AR applications barely recognize flat surfaces, I think it's pretty far from object recognition
ember thorn
@paper kernel i saw some examples in IOS with ARkit2 doing a good job recognizing objects but Android didnt get any working example
=/
there is a good alternative to Vuforia for UE4?
granite swift
What's up?
uneven spoke
im following this tutorial:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1SdfRm2p0phq9YNZJqqR1Y8ioRgGPuD3XCGqKyO9n2No/edit?usp=sharing
i have an aws server
no matter what i do
i cant access the xxamp server outside of aws
@jef
@granite swift
lime cobalt
yeah Iniside posted a recap in #lounge https://80.lv/articles/unreal-dev-days-la-2018-ue4-roadmap/ massive rendering updates
as well as other improvement in physics etc
uneven spoke
can anyone help me?
lime cobalt
@uneven spoke sorry, I don't know anything about that
uneven spoke
ok
pallid compass
aws and xamp has nothing to do with ue4
ember thorn
@uneven spoke ] maybe you should search for issues with Apache, Nginx and etc not the Xamp itself
latent moth
does someone know why all random functions always return the same value? is there a way to seed them?
random float in range
random float
random integer
all return the same values (each their own, but always the same)
regal mulch
They shouldn't return the same value*
It's the other way round, if you seeed them they will return the same
latent moth
they do
on construct
so i have to build a stupid function which basically uses milliseconds from time
that works
i have a bp that on construct sets a random float between 0-2400
it’s always 2310.95 or so
always.
in a packaged game
i saw there are posts of people experiencing the same issue but on previous versions of the engine
sand birch
hey guys I have a bug I need help with
its to do with a hunger, thirst, and health system
if anyone was to help me should I send the the file ive been working on?
idk
regal mulch
No, you escribe your problem and post the specific code as an image
winged crypt
Can 4.19.1 and 4.19.2 share files going both ways?
Or are they version locked per iteration and not major version
latent moth
@regal mulch this is what i’m talking about https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/358151/random-number-generators-always-return-the-same-va.html
apparently random did not work in constructor but i’m still seeing it on 4.20.3
will move it to beginplay
granite swift
Anyone around with a good grasp on retargeting?
ionic bramble
Does UE4 do GLSL shaders? I can’t find out how...
grim sinew
@ionic bramble UE4 cross compiles from HLSL to GLSL when needed
ionic bramble
So there is a way to write your own shader with code. That’s a post processing effect right?
Or would that be something else
cunning umbra
Ugh. a dog in my coworking space just shut off my development workstation.
viscid fern
D:
cunning umbra
I lost a lot of work too 😦
granite swift
Pulled a plug, probably
Or perhaps it just went number one on an extension cord
😛
waxen fjord
I am spawning an actor with a rotation of 90. It appears with a rotation of 89.36. Sometimes I feel like this engine is trolling me.
Ok, it is some floating point nonsense with 'make transform'.
waxen fjord
No, no, I am using unreal, not real
silver crown
granite swift
Can't die if you have no life, right?
waxen fjord
It is too late at night to be finding an workaround for something as basic as making transforms.
viscid canyon
Anyone know of a decent tutorial series to get into ZBrush?
grim sinew
There are hundreds upon hundreds of hours in the pixologic YouTube page
There’s also ZClassroom which is specifically for beginner stuff
Free and official.
plush yew
Hey does anyone know how to animate anything like the mantinee fight scene?
grim sinew
Pixologic.com/zclassroom/level/0 for beginner stuff.
@viscid canyon just tagging so you don’t miss the reply.
@plush yew yes presumably any animator can do it.
plush yew
where do I find one?
grim sinew
viscid canyon
Okay I will check that out
grim sinew
Highly, HIGHLY recommended to have a tablet when using zbrush. The UI is designed specifically for one.
viscid canyon
Right so... I dont know where to start on that page lol
ahhhh
Thats why it feels wonky
grim sinew
The camera won’t feel good with a mouse
grim sinew
You’re doing a character. You need zbrush. Learn it.
viscid canyon
I have no tablet sadly 😦
viscid canyon
Alright... will have to look into it.
grim sinew
I had a teacher once that described a mouse like “drawing with a bar of soap”
It’s not a good idea to do any texturing or sculpting mouse only.
viscid canyon
Hah I can see that.
I mean... I guess for now I can just use 3rd party assets for my first game...
even cubes would work for a game idea
grim sinew
Learrrrrn
viscid canyon
well I cant do so until I get a tablet and not enough $$$ yet 😉
grim sinew
Looking on amazon there’s a Huion tablet for $30
viscid canyon
ill have to wait until next paycheck for that lol
grim sinew
Or a bigger one for $50. Tablets aren’t terribly priced.
Huion I know the name of too, it is off brand but one of the better ones.
viscid canyon
Whats the $50 one?
grim sinew
A lot of people I know that don’t get Wacom go with them
Huion too
Cheapest Wacom I see is $70
viscid canyon
I can get a pricier one but gotta wait until I get paid
I will just spend a week and a half in UE4 doing more learning that way
grim sinew
If you’re spending over $50 get Wacom. Bamboo is their entry level line, Intuos is the professional line.
viscid canyon
I would like to get into networking since I already finished two tutorial courses on basic UE4
grim sinew
You can also usually get cheap Wacom tablets on eBay or craigslist since they last forever and artists upgrade them.
My tablet from high school still works.
viscid canyon
ah yeah I could get used.
grim sinew
Bigger is not always better. Around 13-20 inches is the comfortable range for most people.
Beyond 20, well ask @pallid compass
grim sinew
But yeah you’ll use it a lot. Drawing, sculpting, texturing... I know some people that work at pixologic that don’t even own a mouse for daily use anymore.
That one... I didn’t see the pictures until now. Scroll down to the reviews. IMO its a little small, but it works for some people i guess or it wouldn’t be selling so well
mystic fjord
viscid canyon
Hrm okay I will shop around....
I have ZbrushCore until Dec 2nd so that will give me some play time
pallid compass
wait what
im here
waste ur money on big tablet
i sent two 27qhd's back
because big is shit
and uncomfy
grim sinew
That’s perfect size if that hand is accurate
13-20 inches, and that falls in the range.
Yeah that’s good
grim sinew
Frankly I’m surprised you have maya but not zbrush. Maya is way more expensive
Oh and if you want to, for fun, see what people are up to in zbrush, go have a look at zbrush central.
viscid canyon
Alrighty. I am guessing rigging and texturing will have to happen in either Maya or Houdini eh?
grim sinew
I would link you what tutorial to start with but again on my phone. So...
And not quite. Rigging yeah sure. UVing yes. But texturing you need to do in either substance or Mari
You can texture in zbrush, but only the diffuse map. So it gets you part of the way there.
viscid canyon
Ah. Lots of stuff to learn lol
ZeroNight, you do all of your UE4 work?
Modeling, Rigging, Texturing, BP, C++, etc?
grim sinew
If I need to, I can, yes.
viscid canyon
Awesome 😃
sand birch
hello everyone
i need help with something
if you could lend an hear
.ear
ill just ask it
so im following a tutorial on a hunger system but it does seem to go into thirst, it uses event ticks so i thought that if i make a new event tick and re name it and change the values to thirst instead of hunger i would be set
but there is no clear way to tell whether my thirst tick is going
i ran it in a simulation and there was no flow through the blueprint
so how can i do this?
coral shoal
When you say you made a "new event tick" how did you do that"
you can only have one event tick in one actor, though the same event tick can call multiple things
frosty helm
hello everyone, just joined this server. wanted to say hi to you all 🙂
plush yew
How much would it typically cost to hire on a programmer to help make a horror game? Pretty much just a standard first person story driven horror game similar to something like amnesia?
fossil ore
Is using Complex as Simple collision have a significant performance drop?
icy bone
@fossil ore certainly but depends on ur scene, if ur complex shapes are all boxes then its really no difference lol
fossil ore
It's more like props that have round edges
icy bone
@plush yew depends on the scale and details of ur game. If u wanna use Amnesia as reference then maybe u can check what Amnesia costed to make
@fossil ore Well certainly it will be slower than simple collision volumes (as those are usually simplified). But again dont think about performance too much if ur game isnt too complex or needs to run on slow hardware like mobile
static viper
it depends really
fossil ore
It's for VR.
static viper
i use it alot and it didnt add to anything for me
no fps drops with physics
in vr you will need it
tho
icy bone
@fossil ore VR can still run on powerful PCs u know, mobile VR then u need to think
fossil ore
I dont know If its possible to have simple collision along with complex collision
static viper
phyiscs and complex dont work together
fossil ore
Simple collision for walking surface
static viper
you can only have one
fossil ore
complex for tossing objects on things
icy bone
@fossil ore the standard way in UE4 is that both are used
static viper
you can only toss simple objects
they can touch each other
but physics only work with a hull
icy bone
@fossil ore you can for example turn on complex collision when u need precision, and turn it off when u dont need
@fossil ore I use complex when i do line trace for shooting games for example
@fossil ore or visibility check, since thats kinda important to get right and not blocked by invisible edges
fossil ore
"Trace Complex on Move" ?
icy bone
are u talking BP or C++
icy bone
let me check
fossil ore
Or every object needs to be BP ?
icy bone
do u wanna do line tracing right?
static viper
well it really depends on alot of factors
fossil ore
and I want to make sure some props reacts with complex collision
icy bone
or do u wanna simulate physics
static viper
my objects can break, have weights and all lot of stuff
fossil ore
simple as box
static viper
you could then just let them simulate
and make the vr hands do an overlap check
grab at handle
and you are ready to build it
mh
i think the ue4 template for vr has this system even
but the small variance
fossil ore
I think you're confusing what I Want to achieve
icy bone
if u wanna do complex line trace then its kinda easy:
fossil ore
I want to set up a collision that only objects will use complex collision
icy bone
sceenshot
fossil ore
oikay
static viper
only objects?
fossil ore
Let's say you have a gun and a chair
When a character walks toward chair.... he won't pass it
When he throws a gun at chair... chair will use complex collision
icy bone
why, cus u want the gun to rest on chair?
fossil ore
yes
I don't want character to be above the table.
but I want gun to be reacting properly to table collision
Blue cubes are collision for VR walking
static viper
oh you can just place blocking volumes that only check for player
that will do the entire trick here
the weapon still can pass
but player cant
fossil ore
so, set every prop as complex -- simple... and block it with Volume block
but is there any better way to do it?
static viper
you dont need to tocuh any props
i dont understand why you would do that
a blocking volume, set channel to custom, everything to ignore only the player to block
fossil ore
then how is this gonna work??????
static viper
and you got yourself a super player block
static viper
gun will float bc it has no physics
fossil ore
IT HAS PHYSICS
static viper
show
static viper
then i cant tell what your error is XD
show me stuff
is it set to simulate
show me collision box
i cant debug with nothing
and the picture seems to be from editor
fossil ore
static viper
any warnings on play start?
uneven spoke
.
tranquil bone
Anyone know any good tutorials for making custom skyboxes?
fierce tulip
https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/thriving-in-early-access-amid-evil-is-a-retro-fantasy-fps-with-a-modern-mind interview with two buddies.
paper kernel
buy that looks retro
also, please don't make promo videos that have more text than gameplay
short summit
Does anyone here have a clue why this happens? There's two videos in case you don't notice. https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/839102/view.html
paper kernel
it's the fundamental feature of BSP brushes
you are tying to add volume before it was subtracted
in time-wise hierarchy
frank escarp
making a retro pixel art-ish game in unreal
absolute fucking madmen of the highest degree
ah, nvm, mistook it for a different game
plush yew
anyone know why this is happening?
short summit
@paper kernel Could you explain better?
paper kernel
positive and negative brushes are handles at the order they placed in the world. you are trying to move earlier placed positive brush inside a negative later placed brush
short summit
Okaaay..I understand that a bit better 😄 Seems flawed system to me
paper kernel
only because it's not very important system
short summit
Yeah. But its good for concepting levels. Or are there better ways? Basic shapes are no good because you can't edit them same way.
tall pendant
for concepting basic shapes are perfectly fine imho
static viper
id rather use custom meshes from maya XD
fierce tulip
or one of the blockout packs on mp
short summit
I tried looking for one. Is there free one's that's good?
fierce tulip
jesus the marketplace search is still as bad as it ever was
not free, but i.e. https://gumroad.com/l/Phxfn is quite good
static viper
alessa ❤
remote oriole
hello i need help ! UE4 plugin Rig animation i don't see humanoid option
short summit
I'll consider those when I start to need them more often 😛
static viper
well this sounds like #animation question :3
plush yew
need wheels created by physics. Anybody has ideas?
trail mortar
anyone here who is colorblind and wants to test my colorblind modes in my game? (by looking at an img)
sly willow
hi everybody , anyone try action RPG demo from UE4, I tried to use the infinity blade characters to retarget the animation , but some animation, like animation montage does not create when I retarget ABP_player, any one have idea how to retarget all the animation for the main character?
merry gazelle
guys how difficult would this sort of project be to build on UE4? I'm suprised there's not really many templates
regal mulch
Hm, most of that is probably datamangement in the back
Spawning something on a grid is (if you know what you do) not much work
The street system is a lot more work, specially if you want the AIs walk more or less intelligent
That could take you a few days to properly setup
merry gazelle
I've been creating an isometric scene using a map plugin, it would be cool to set it up in UE4 but I don't have the exp
regal mulch
As always it really depends on your skills
merry gazelle
I think if it's relatively easy to setup,, someone should throw one on the marketplace 😛
regal mulch
I can only answer this based on my own knowledge and I would say it's not that hard and doesn't take that long.
Then again I don't know how many features that video has
The isometric view or the town simulation?
merry gazelle
The isometric view is straight forward, it's more the grid spawning but maybe also a simple attribute system so placed buldings effect each other
the ai could just be generic anims
regal mulch
Well parts of that is on the marketplace
But the whole thing most likely not cause barely anyone does games like htat
And if they do they usually don't need a template
merry gazelle
I suppose so, I'll keep looking aroung
plush yew
HEllo guys I have a problem
I downloaded animaion from the mixamo and I want to open it with Blender
When I open it it shows me this:
not this:
hmmm
cerulean coral
If I good remember you must first open blender next Import it not just open, but not 100% sure
cerulean coral
No problem, remember to check "import Animation" too
plush yew
It fixed
thank you
a okay
because I imported it successfully but it doesn't repeat infinitely? why?
I haven't got "import animation"
cerulean coral
plush yew
whee s this because I am not working with the Blender and I can't but I know average the basics 😃
sorry
cerulean coral
me to 😉 I am more like coder 😛
plush yew
lol
cerulean coral
I am not sure about animations in blender but if you hit play on bottom it should play infinity
cerulean coral
I think this can help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHBWN2IIuck
plush yew
aha okay
thank you
Hello guys again I have another problem I downloaded character from Mixamo and I find animations for it and now I am making the animations BP I can't drop animation to match it why?
it doesn't show me the animations-why?
lilac cobalt
Get many error when build project in visual studio
plush yew
for me?
what is theis niagara tool? what you can do with it?
can you help me anyone for my problem?
cerulean coral
Did you check import animations?
plush yew
what I must to choose? Smis?
cerulean coral
look on my screen Import animations and animation length
cerulean coral
try check this 2 options
cerulean coral
yes
plush yew
okay
and now import all because I start importing over 1 animation
😉
for the character what to choose again with the check or not?
cerulean coral
I am not sure do i understand your question. If you wanna import your model to U4 with animations you must check this options. If you will not do it you will have only model mesh with texture.
plush yew
I have again error
it can't find all my animations
why?
I have only these 2 animations
I need to see these:
fossil ore
You've forgot to tick boxes while you're doing import.
cerulean coral
Click import next choose
fossil ore
you ticked import animation and It still doesnt import?
Oh, maybe your character was alone and animation is alone too
plush yew
how?
how to fix it? tis problem? to sow me the animations?
my character has got animations taht I find and choose to download
and I imported it
him*
cerulean coral
just import animations and attach them to your model
look on screen that i have posted
FBX animation(*.fbx)
plush yew
so to click on "Import at all"?
cerulean coral
when you was importing this model did you check this 2 boxes and clicked on Import all?
plush yew
I am not sure
I will do it for third time
omg
this is for importing character
what to click?
and is all is rgiht?
right*
must I to choose skeleton?
sand birch
Hello everyone I have would like some opinions on a creative design aspect of a game I'm trying to make. The reason I'm not posting it in design is because no one is there
plush yew
@cerulean coral ?
regal mulch
Anyone ever tested spawning 500 Actors in BP vs C++?
Just wondering if I could lower the Hickup of the GameThread a bit
cerulean coral
Yes click import all
regal mulch
The Actors are currently empty, so there will be more impact down the road I assume
cerulean coral
Do not choose skelleton
static viper
i assume you are the best person to optimize that process XD
so its hard to tell XD
what is he up to
i cant believe that.
is he actually doing it
...
plush yew
okay
and after a while I will send you screenshot for the animations to see what to do to fix this problem-omg
what to do what to choose?
cerulean coral
you are importing file punching is this animation or model?
You can import model with animations or animations alone
frank escarp
@regal mulch little to no difference
unless they have tick
then you fuck-d in BPs
regal mulch
Hmpf
Well the overhead that actors bring with them is really annoying
We are not even spawning actors often, but a bunch of them
cerulean coral
So choose import change Type of file to fbx animation and import. You can try select all files and drag and drop i think
regal mulch
There must be a way of spawning a batch of Actors (BP or C++) that have some code in them (simple randomizer that spawns randomly placed HISM)
without creating such a hit on GT
Is there some common way of distributing that over multiple frames? Would that even solve the issue?
I really don't want to move that project to Unity cause of that
(there we were able to spawn a multitude of GameObject with a simple script that did the same that UE4 did, minus the HISM, and it didn't even touch the frames)
plush yew
How to change it I can't find it @cerulean coral
cerulean coral
Try to select files in file Explorer and drag and drop it to engine
cerulean coral
But do you see this files in engine? On the list after import?
In the content browser
waxen fjord
If you generated some trees, just set them on fire.
plush yew
yes @cerulean coral
cerulean coral
Now select model and add this animation
plush yew
Where to select and add?
frank escarp
@regal mulch unity GOs are considerable lower overhead than actors
make sure you are inheriting from a C++ class, and that C++ class has "bCanEverTick = false"
even if tick is disabled, its still registered, wich has overhead
regal mulch
I went to spawning them over multiple frames
plush yew
plush yew
he find only these but it must to find and to can give me io use the other
to these I must to have access but I haven't what to do?
Hey guys. Any chance someone could show me an UE4 based browser game?
I wonder how much did the performance increase on this subject over the years :)
Last time i checked it was kinda broken and loading times took minutes
can this mean that there is a problem with packaging or not?
now is this
hmm
No
You will get FATAL ERROR
okay
okay thank you
Then things are fuckdd up :D
it is still packaging
Yeah
Spamming the console
👌
usual
You can put it on a big screem
ans show it to girls
so there is no problem with packing so you just need more time packing it? or?
and tell them you are hacking
manic pawn
I think IME is just some thing that deals with input for asian languages and stuff
plush yew
spamming the console? what?
If theres a peoblem you will see at the end
lol stoip make jokes @plush yew
manic pawn
you don't need to care what it's doing
manic pawn
wait until it says success or fail
plush yew
depending on your PC and project size it may take 5mins - 1hour
I pout in my project pakages like Infinity Weapons and these and they maybe slow the packaging or?
okay
manic pawn
if it fails it will tell you a summary of errors that caused it to fail
manic pawn
packaging can take from seconds to days
manic pawn
depends on the amount of content, how much derived data was cached in previous runs, ...
manic pawn
if you tried to package ark without primed ddc it would probably take days yes
plush yew
I threw my PC out the very next day
it isn't problem but days...
ans bought a new CPU
static viper
you started 2 minutes ago AND you are complaining already that it takes too long?!?!?!?!
plush yew
it is already 14 minutes @static viper
Yeah. It should take less than 2 minutes in 2018
manic pawn
most of the time is spent compressing textures to different formats I guess
plush yew
I tested to package new project that hasn't nothing like things made by me or packages and it packaged it
yes I think that the package slow me
but is there a way to add the project use the things that I need o delete the package and to package the game?
static viper
that question makes no sense
plush yew
okay
sorry but Iwant to ask to know for teh future 😉
please don't react like now for the future-okay? @static viper
static viper
please dont ask question that make no sense?
XD
you are usually annoyed with my answers because you dont like them XD
plush yew
lol
lean yacht
One thing I hate about UE4
Client side predictive physics
Needed but a pain in the ass
static viper
yee i feel ye
plush yew
it is already in the starter content it saves the started content-ss this sound that the finish is near?
lean yacht
How about we all make an open sourced implementation
For client predictive physics :D
static viper
id rather have epic fix it XD
lean yacht
Do you have a project rn
static viper
ofc
lean yacht
Lol
static viper
it is physics based
lean yacht
Same lol
static viper
and i have it working in multiplayer
lean yacht
Like cars and stuff
static viper
wait i show yee
static viper
err
lean yacht
Interpolation?
tall pendant
🤔
static viper
regal mulch
Let's not count simple physics objects as "Physics Multiplayer Project"
static viper
i am sorry wrong link...
plush yew
static viper
built cars?
lean yacht
And elevators while moving
static viper
that sounds like a clone
lean yacht
Aren't easy xddd
static viper
garrys mod
lean yacht
Not even close
lean yacht
Can't disclose much NDA
static viper
garrys mod was great.
lean yacht
We have 15 members on our team
static viper
i have my own team ^^
lean yacht
Voxelized asteroids planets player built ships massive mmo
Destruction of the same ships
static viper
you just lost me
static viper
space weather
static viper
😄
lean yacht
Planets....
regal mulch
You aren't really discussing any problems here, so leave the room for people with questions.
waxen fjord
Sounds like an interesting game.
fathom heath
Hey, I'm back
static viper
you will have to wait for red ^^
south ridge
@lean yacht I’m working on netcode for ue4
south ridge
Will release as a plug-in, implements impulse based smooth correction
wanton edge
Unity is better
south ridge
We use a subset of this netcode for our game
The plugin just adds support for arbitrary sets of bodies and joints, but it’s a wip
waxen fjord
I heard unreal was better for netcode stuff?
sand birch
hey guys just to let you know im back and Im in blueprints trying to theory craft how to complete the custom hunger system
im at my pc
help would be appreated
devout slate
Hello
viscid canyon
How in depth is your hunger system? Do you take into account metabolism, physical activity, the quality of food you are taking in? or is it just... Food = positive uptake of hunger bar for x amount of time?
chrome summit
guys can anyone help i have a serious problem
so i have the muzzle socket right up there
and i set the spawn location of muzzle effect to be right on the socket
but the effect is spawning on the magazine at the bone
turbid wave
what is better to use for character creation, genesis 8 or iclone with character creator 3?
for more realistic results
sand birch
um guys i need to find the capsule component tab and i cant
how do i find it or open it?
this is in blueprints
coarse osprey
You mean this?
ivory gate
Hello i am currently in development of a game called Ninja Platformer. It will have various game modes, along with a live item shop. I am currently looking for play testers. Please DM if you would be interested.
warm hearth
I did a Norway iq test thingy. Dunno how legit it is but I got 133 ;D which is above the average for my race/ethnicity (92 on one side, 102 on the other)
sand birch
so as a quick question as im trying to do this on my own, can point light in unreal be used as a better Sun
grim sinew
I can't think of a single reason why you would want to do that
sand birch
my situation is complicated
so i need to make a new light source that will damage the player
this will eventually be the sun
i need to make it on a small scale
first
and I'm REALLY trying to firgure this out on my own
idk what Light source to use
or how to edit it so that it does what I want it to do
like i just started taking unreal seriously
and have no idea what im doing
grim sinew
I have no idea what you're doing either, good luck though
plush yew
Type of light source is irrelevant in your mechanic
high stone
Can anyone confirm if Google officially lowered their royalty fees to 15% for Android?
high yoke
Yes sunlight damaging the player has nothing to do with the lights. Lights are just for visuals. Look into ray casts and colliders.
south ridge
You probably want a directional light for simplicity
Because then a check for "are you exposed to light" becomes a simple raytrace from the players position along the direction vector of the light source
And if you get no hits, you're exposed!
zenith flower
They day that unreal decides to actually get unreal, is the day i'll be happy
Everything around unreal is focused on a humanoid character
I want a modular, rigid, mech.
but you can't have both static meshes and skeleton meshes mixed
The reason for that, is any part that you make into a modular skeleton mesh:
A: Wrong bounds, imported, or current
B: You can't access the "static" mesh thats inside of the skeletel mesh (can't get the bounds)
And as for static meshes:
A: You can't use the skeleton and just attach your static meshes to the bones (you can, but you have to have a "mesh" present inside of the skeleton mesh, or it wont import, but then that just goes to above A and B again)
B: Because of A, you can't have a complicated animation, unless you want to hardcode every frame, loose all the animation tools (blending, montage, ect) ect.
Like, why can't we just have a static mesh skeleton?????
south ridge
That sounds a little strange
zenith flower
And hardcoding bounds is bullshit, and I can't depend on bones for modular data, because many bones are not ment to be a part of the "modular"
south ridge
There should be no issue in parenting static mesh components to specific bones of the skeletal mesh
What happens?
south ridge
I use degenerate triangles (one side is zero) to create empty meshes that don't render, but have valid data as far as the engine's concerned 😄
zenith flower
So, it would be a "fake" skeleton mesh, but with all the bones
south ridge
In our game it's mostly used on static meshes (to make the root static mesh only have collisions, but no rendering), but yeah
It wants at least one triangle when importing anything (and presumably at least one triangle per bone)
zenith flower
(you only need one bone thats skinned) <- One of my attempts, was a full skeletal bone structure, with only a "root" mesh, in this case just the torso, the engine would import the skeleton, with just the one mesh, but all the bones
but still, how do you match up the bones with the static meshes?
I guess I could match the static meshes, origin with the head (or tail?) of the bone
That might actually work for me, but damn thats like 2x or 3x my workflow
Make sectional parts of a skeleton -> Make "fake" triangles -> Make empties for "mount points" for alignment of additional skeletons-> Delete actual mesh ->import as skeleton
Undelete actual mesh, now delete the fake triangles (or in blender just export with the "selected" option)
Match mesh origin with each bone -> import as static
Map which mesh goes with which bone (Maybe a .bodypart.model.whichside dot naming convention comparison would help here)
radiant fable
got a normal map in my ue4 scene making the surface/material its on darker, anyone got an idea what causes this
nvm, i think i screwed up the material nodes implementation, old vs new
https://i.imgur.com/xTFvzmY.jpg
south ridge
@radiant fable don't forget to normalize it, but also make sure that it's mostly vertical
Strange shades related to normal maps can indicate that normals are non-unit length at some point (though not always), or that they have a bias (tilted to the side)
zenith flower
@south ridge Thank you!
still have to work out the socket stuff, but the fake triangle really made my day!
south ridge
Good to know! Sorry that it's annoying like that, hopefully you can move from here and figure out a nice workflow
zenith flower
Shoot, i'll take the extra workflow, it was either this or dumping my entire modular system that i've built upon for the last two years (I know, I know, technical debt came to bite me in the ass for using static meshes only, and worrying about animations later)
south ridge
I can see some solid benefits of such approach, I hope you make use of them all 😄
zenith flower
They REALLY should make a Static Skeleton Mesh.... xD
It would also be a lot more optimized for these kinds of characters
or other complexly animated machinery
Not only that, but meshes should have data
Hiding them unaccessable behind a skeleton is bull
In my case, my code does all the heavy lifting based on the naming convention and size of the static mesh, and the names of sockets in the skeletal mesh to determine:
What "modules" can "fit" inside of it (like slots) based on the bounds
What "kind" of modules can be used based on the "name" of available sockets in the parent skeletal mesh
The weight of the object (based on bounds)
What utilities are available to said modules, based on additional socket names (such as having electrical hookups, or hydraulic, or coolant lines) this will further determine the "compatible" modules that will work, in some cases you can put a weapon or module that could benefit from cooling, but you could technically put it in a slot that doesn't have coolant lines, which would make it passive cooling only
and the list goes on
south ridge
A "static skeleton mesh" is too special of a case
In our game, we just use skeletal meshes for mechanics and such
But our animations are simpler
Usually each mechanic only has two end states and the inbetween (e.g. brakes applied - brakes released)
It sounds like a cool modular system!
zenith flower
I don't think it is. Think about all the things you mess with that would benefit. Doors, windows, cars, tanks, planes ect
none of those things need deforming bones, but would greatly benefit from the simplicity of being able to animate at the same time you are modeling, without needing to go into each static mesh, and putting in sockets, and then in code writing up the rotation limits, or the animation data
Just look around the room you are in, and imagine having to have to PROGRAM the "animation" for everything,
Drawers, buttons, switches, latches, boxes, ect
I'm just saying, if they had it, our game worlds would be more "immersive" because it would be simpler to put it in
Instead, I have to drop a bunch of sockets, line them up, and code what the rotation limits are, or how it animates by code
Also skeletal meshes do not let you access the actual individual meshes themselves
And this is stupid, its ALREADY there when you import it.
rant end xD
south ridge
@zenith flower the short answer is that skeletal meshes are very efficient and the transform stuff is done on the GPU, with static mesh approach like above the CPU would generate new transformation matrices
So people go with a way that's efficient and supported by 3d editors out of the box
For most simple mechanics, the overhead of gpu transforms being computed is very low etc
zenith flower
Why can't the gpu do the static transforms?
Its already compatible with 3d editors
when I import I can import as static, or skeleton
both work
I just can't use both without stringing it all together
south ridge
It would end up not too different to just doing what skeletal meshes do anyway
south ridge
The deform stuff is implicit
There is no explicit deformation, it's just that vertices are affected by more than one bone with different weights
But yeah, it would be cool to have cheap mechanics animation stuff 😄
manic pawn
doesn't it use special optimized versions of the shader if none of the vertices are affected by more than 1/2/3/4 bones?
south ridge
It most likely does
fathom gale
west quarry
we should I ask question about GPL ?
so I have dual licences (premission from GPL authors to use lib in non-gpl software)
grim sinew
Nowhere specific for that on this discord, but someone might stumble upon it here
west quarry
GPL lib is for game not for marketplace or unreal engine plugin
smoky stream
unreal plugins that are put on the marketplace have to use the epic lisence
no exceptions
west quarry
question is to what degree dual licencing is allowed
I need GPL for my game project, not for market place or plugin
@smoky stream I can develop lib and release it on github under GPL, then use same lib and combine it in product for marketplace
I think this is allowed by EULA
smoky stream
if you put code on the marketplace, that code must be under the epic license
west quarry
as I am author of GPL I just have dual licences
grim sinew
"No exceptions" seems pretty clear cut, but I don't know much about it personally since I never looked into it, I'm just taking malloc's word for it
smoky stream
from what i've heard from people on this channel before its either epic lisence or gtfo
if you dont put it on the marketplace then you dont need to license it under epics license
west quarry
I don't think you can use GPL with your game
all code in your game should be also under EULA
west quarry
this does not answers my question still
who is dual licence treated
since it is under epic EULA
smoky stream
epic doesnt do dual lisence
epic's license overrides all others
your own game can be under whatever
but all engine code, marketplace content and all of epics redistributals are under their license and always will be
grim sinew
Sounds pretty straightforward
grim sinew
I feel like it probably does, but you don't like the answer so you're ignoring it
west quarry
no I am not, because in EULA it is stated you can use MIT, LGPL (statically linked lib)
smoky stream
binaries with no source code may be different
west quarry
so not all code must be under EULA MIT is ok
smoky stream
but if you put that on the marketplace you bet your ass epic wont accept it if it uses a thrid party lib not listed
south ridge
You can offer your thing for any license you want, but if you are offering it, Epic Games are in the right to deny you usage of the marketplace according to their terms
west quarry
I am asking about my game and not market place
south ridge
They can't deny you the right to offer your thing under a different license, they just revoke your ability to use marketplace for distributing that item
smoky stream
smoky stream
if its your own game then it doesnt matter do what you like with your own code
west quarry
@zenith flower how sure you about that ?
south ridge
But only with your OWN code and assets
zenith flower
So, yes, as long as you provide the epic license you are good
west quarry
I have same understanding but still not 100% sure
smoky stream
if its epics code tho then you better belive they'd sue your ass if you tried to dual license that
only code that YOU wrote you have the rights to license
zenith flower
well, i would hope he isn't giving out license for someone elses stuff
south ridge
@west quarry can you explain what exactly you want to distribute under a custom/own license?
Make a short summary or something?
west quarry
Have permission to use GPL from GPL library authors to use it in unreal engine
zenith flower
you are fine, just don't put it on the market place
west quarry
GPL library (that is under EULA) is combine with unreal engine
south ridge
You cannot link GPL code against Unreal Engine as that would require you to poison the Unreal Engine codebase with GPL, wouldn't it? But your own game DLL's should be fine I think. Look up use of GPL and shared libraries
south ridge
If you don't use a custom engine, then you're good
As long as you don't distribute the engine itself
west quarry
@south ridge I Have permission to use GPL from GPL library authors to use it in unreal engine
zenith flower
south ridge
Only the parts of your game that aren't related to Unreal Engine itself
@west quarry if you use a custom engine, then you're going to be bound by Epic Games licensing
zenith flower
Sure
south ridge
Specify the version of Unreal Engine against which the users must run your game and distribute only the game itself
west quarry
@zenith flower what do you mean ?
south ridge
Without any content or binaries from UE4
zenith flower
You're saying he can't publish (even for free) a game, in whole, just because it contains gpl code?
smoky stream
if the engine is custom in any way, then yes thats correct
south ridge
It's kinda hard to understand if you're trying to add GPL code to the engine itself or to your game
west quarry
hmm, custom engine that a very broad definition
south ridge
It really isn't
Any engine that didn't come from UE4's launcher is a custom engine really
smoky stream
you touch engine code, its custom
zenith flower
If you have to build the source code of the engine, you probably are going custom
smoky stream
you edit a single line, the engine is deemed custom
west quarry
yep
zenith flower
but still that doesnt make sense
south ridge
I'm pretty sure legally any engine that you didn't obtain from Epic Games would count as custom
Since they explicitly give you a way to download the official release of the engine for that reason
smoky stream
if your code is under GPL, and you put your code into the engine, congrats; you just poisoned the entire code base with GPL
west quarry
I have dual license
zenith flower
oh, is that because of how GPL works right?
smoky stream
yup
west quarry
GPL for any one outside of using this library, in binary from with unreal code is under unreal EULA
smoky stream
GPL3 poisons any codebase it touches
west quarry
this what I am doing
zenith flower
Oh, the L in LGPL is for limited right?
smoky stream
if your code is under GPL, you cant use a custom engine, done
west quarry
LGPL allows you to staticly link only library to non lgpl code
smoky stream
just dont use GPL
its worked very well for me
dont use GPL, dont touch librarys that use GPL
west quarry
if you modify lgpl lib you must poblish that code somewhere
smoky stream
so just dont do that
west quarry
GPL is fine you understand how it works
smoky stream
not with unreal it isnt
south ridge
Idk about GPL being fine, but that's a whole different conversation 😄
GPL is too restrictive
zenith flower
I don't think any license should ever poison another license, thats bullshit
smoky stream
if you dont edit unreal at all and just build on top of it GPL should probably work
west quarry
you just get permission to use it somewhere else that's it
usually will cost you money
smoky stream
but you edit a single line in unreal with GPL, boom, instant lawsuit from epic if you release it
south ridge
Then it's a custom license and not GPL anymore
And we need to look at terms of the custom license
west quarry
@smoky stream that does not make any sense
smoky stream
yes it does
GPL posions all code it touches
so you touch unreal with it, you poison unreal
and you cant do that
zenith flower
@west quarry, its because GPL takes over the entire code base, its not limited in scope
smoky stream
epic says you cant and will sue your ass if you try
smoky stream
not with unreal
zenith flower
then you are screwed
smoky stream
dont bring GPL within a mile of unreal
south ridge
I don't think GPL is actually involved here
Cause it seems like there's a custom license involved?
smoky stream
how hard is it to just not use GPL
west quarry
very hard
zenith flower
dude, you're an ass
smoky stream
are you at gunpoint to use GPL?
zenith flower
help him find a solution, or stop polluting the chat
west quarry
no that would be impossible
west quarry
I just not going to go in details what library and why I am using it
zenith flower
@west quarry, can you just ask the guy for a different compatible license?
smoky stream
any lisence that does what GPL does cant be brought into epics code
zenith flower
whats the 2nd license, you have?
west quarry
this library in Unreal is under (think of LGPL a like) that is compatible with EULA to best of my understanding, but all modification to this GPL library I need to release on github under GPL for any one else to use
that all there is
I am not sure only about that I still stratify unreal EULA
eg. check and double check
zenith flower
You make no sense, is it dual license or not? you can't say its LIKE LGPL, but in the same sentence refer to it as GPL
west quarry
it is dual license, GPL and Unreal EULA
smoky stream
is it already in the engine?
west quarry
well you saying that but does not specify how I am not stratifying Unreal EULA under dual licences
when I can combine LGPL licences with unreal
smoky stream
you really dont want to poke the bear that is epics lawyers when it comes to this stuff
if you're not 100% certain, dont try it
west quarry
to make more clear example you develope lib xyz, released it under GPL on github, then decided to included in game in unreal engine as author you just made this library GPL and EULA at same time
smoky stream
if its your own game, and you use full stock unreal engine, release full game source on github, then yes,; thats fine
zenith flower
If you made it, why do you have to put it under GPL?
smoky stream
but you touch engine code even one bit and thats not fine
west quarry
so other people can use it too
smoky stream
also yeah dont use GPL its a really shit license
west quarry
and improve etc ... make world batter
smoky stream
any other lisence can do that
zenith flower
If you don't intent to restrict their use, then why bother putting it under a license?
smoky stream
apache 2.0, MIT, unlisence WTFUW etc
west quarry
I am not going into license war discussion
smoky stream
basically any other lisence is better than GPL imo
zenith flower
Just release it without a license?
smoky stream
thats not agood idea
west quarry
without license you are 100% owner pretty much
smoky stream
if you do that people can sue you and claim damages for faulty code
west quarry
no one will be able to use unless they ask you from premission
smoky stream
the license stops that
and it doesnt work like that @west quarry
i put out code without a lisence anyone can use it, but anyone can say the code is faulty and sue me for writing it
zenith flower
Just release it to public domain and be done with it
smoky stream
the lisence says they cant do that
unlisence
done
license it under that and stop worrying about it
west quarry
that too makes sense that some
for me it is more copy right issue when on github code is without any licences
smoky stream
EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF
MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.
IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR
OTHER LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE,
ARISING FROM, OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR
OTHER DEALINGS IN THE SOFTWARE.```thats the important bityou need that otherwise people can sue you
just use unlicense 5head
zenith flower
I didn't know they had an UnLicense, thats pretty cool
smoky stream
its what most of my stuff goes under
it also means people can hand it in as their own work at school and its not plagurism
zenith flower
lol
smoky stream
very helpful for my classmates
west quarry
😃
smoky stream
really tho, avoid GPL if you can
the lisence is really restrictive and it poisons codebases
zenith flower
(However, as soon as the first person buys it, it would be game over for you $$$ lol)
smoky stream
when im searching for libs, my general rule of thumb for avoiding is
a. if it uses GPL or a variant, skip
b. if it uses anything other than make, skip
c. more than boost/stl as a dep, skip
and its served me well
cause fuck cmake lol
hot drum
vivid girder
Whats the best way to access draw calls through code?
vivid girder
Nah, i wanna display it on my Hud
south ridge
You'll need to look into the stats subsystem. There is one of stats screens that shows it, if you really need to pull that number out, you presumably can, somehow
vivid girder
stats scenerendering
south ridge
Probably only need to know its ID
south ridge
@plush yew what is the error you're getting
1 error and 126 warnings, what does that one error say?
I see 6 warnings there, there are 120 more + 1 error message as it says
Pastebin the log?
vivid girder
lol
south ridge
Use this
When you send it to pastebin, it gives you a unique URL you can give us so we can see the content of your pastebin
brave lark
anyone have a link to the live stream where they show how to download user created content at runtime? I can't find the link anywhere and I have watched it before a while ago
please @ me
south ridge
LogProperty: Error: UStructProperty::Serialize Loading: Property 'StructProperty /Game/Inventory/Component/Inventory.Inventory_C:inventory'. Unknown structure.