#1 ties into #2 tho as you can always block out the level layout with BSP, then move it into your 3d program to make production designs
#ue4-general
grim ore
winged bear
okay
grim ore
BSP's are not designed to be performance friendly, you will get less performance out of a bsp cube than a static mesh cube and it only gets worse the more operations you perform on the BSP brush
with that said if your entire game consists of squares and you have like 50 on screen at a time then BSP vs Static Meshes really does not matter.
winged bear
Okay, so if I make a wall with a hole for a door with an edited BSP, it will cost more than a wall made on 3ds Max ?
grim ore
yes
but you can always convert that wall into a static mesh inside UE4 and then export it out to clean it up in max and bring it back in for example
technically you can clean up any geometry brush in UE4 as well by hand but its super painful as the tools are not designed for it
winged bear
So I can use the greybox and import it into 3ds Max, for example, and then clean it, unwrap it, etc etc, for production?
grim ore
there is a content example that showcases the workflow from greyboxing out to production
and yes that is the normalish workflow
winged bear
I also have another question : Do you know another solution than Level Streaming to work on the same scene with multiple persons?
grim ore
level streaming is the standard way of collaboration but there is a plugin that is supposed to support collaboration as well that is out/coming out
winged bear
Ow! Do you remember the name of the plug-in ?
winged bear
Perfect! ๐
languid shard
its in closed alpha for now though
winged bear
Thanks a lot !
brittle gyro
is there a way to have the "new project/select" screen from popping up Steam VR? I remember a setting to turn it off in a config file somewhere.
granite swift
I got a quick question, if I make certain parts of a model 'invisible' by setting their opacity to 0
do they still affect performance as they would while fully visible?
olive yew
I can't find the stuff for the root, pelvis, clavicle and more
i imported the character form mixamo.
what should i do?
grim sinew
@granite swift yes.
golden magnet
(new to unreal) is it possible to snap objects to another, for example if I want to create 4 equal walls that touch each other?
right now i'm just dragging them but it's not accurate enough
worn granite
if they're all uniform size you can turn on grid snapping and kinda get that
And you can press End to snap objects to a floor
other than that, you'll have to use an editor extension to get things like vertex snapping
golden magnet
ok, thanks
olive yew
https://gyazo.com/54854eb8aa7104d302b99122f636924b
I can't find the stuff for the root, pelvis, clavicle and more
i imported the character form mixamo.
what should i do?
olive yew
?
fossil ore
@olive yew It's called "HIPS"
Pelvis = Hips
Clavicle = Shoulder
Mixamo has different naming conviction
plush yew
oh hello
autumn temple
if you have an AI, and you dot the actors right with the direction to the player, what direction could the the player be if the dot product result is 0.0?
Would that be in front, behind, or to the sides? I'm still confused about Dot Product
trim tapir
PQ-QP=ih/4pi
autumn temple
Thank you very much.
wintry glade
hello is rendering with an embedded Alpha channel an option yet ?
for cinematic camera rendering output to mov or something
autumn swan
Anyone here using GameSparks as their backend?
void rapids
hola
tawdry raptor
I have an issue where my AI walk and sound like a marching army, I have 2 foot steps sounds each time the AI hits the ground but these 2 get repeative, how can I make my AI foot steps more realistic when I can onky add 2 foot steps sounds
plush yew
use one audio source and let each step interrupt the last
tawdry raptor
like one right after the other?
plush yew
how do I change the vr hands for ue4?
I have all the blendspaces setup but It doesn't work
paper sky
Hey all - looking for general advice. Somewhat of a beginner here, have done really cursory work with Unity and am looking to start a dark souls / zelda style third person game. I am a developer with basic knowledge of C++, not averse to going deep into it. In fact, I prefer it over the idea of getting good with Blueprints (at least to start)
Wondering if I'm on the right track - I'm starting with the Third Person Code starter project, and am looking to write a z-targeting / lock-on (to e.g., an actor I deem targetable) with appropriate camera follow as my first project. Two questions:
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Am I barking up the right tree by starting with the third person example project - or would I be better off starting from scratch to really drill in some basics,
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Do any of you know of any good tutorials that would steer me in the right direction for this zelda style z-targeting goal?
Again - total beginner, and happy to learn to crawl before I learn to walk, but having trouble finding out a good starting point here.
icy bone
@golden magnet there is vertex snapping in UE4, but i forgot the hotkeys, google it :)
@paper sky Best is to start scratch, I start all my projects from empty C++ ptoject. But it require u to learn the basic of UE4. I recomme d Tom Loomans course on Udemy for C++. Or u can youtube tutorial series. But those may be outdated to current version, and may cause confusion. Udemy videos tend to stay up to date as new versions arrive.
@paper sky Also Blueprints are must learn things in UE4. Usual wotkflow is to code base code in C++ and use BP to setup and connect game. logic cus its much easier. Writing C++ for everything is not very flexible
for ur purpose of locking (i never played zelda), what u wanna modify is the movement direction vectors and camera lookat towards a target location/actor
brittle gulch
Hi here, is it possible to make a Grass Type Foliage movable? I can't find a way to change it's mbility.
I'm talking about grass type foliage, the one you use with inside a material
plush yew
cloud cobalt
@plush yew ?
cloud cobalt
Sounds like it's running in background... ?
sleek solar
How to prevent Epic Launcher from starting with UE4 Editor? I am not even using launcher version of the engine...
fierce tulip
not sure if its fixed, but a few years ago @polar hawk posted a way to disable that which resulted in games unable to cook O_o
sleek solar
๐ฆ
fierce tulip
when someone took over adding vfx to characters due to being stuck in another country, and noticing he accidentally used particle systems each containing about 40 emitters.. for a mobile game and it still runs within the required framerate and ms.
whole quarry
Sounds like a win
manic pawn
๐ค is this meant to be shown in the editor? https://i.imgur.com/PrvCH67.png
fierce tulip
static viper
i posted first ๐
fierce tulip
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
unreal spoke
Is possible to write data into a data asset using blueprints? from the editor? in-game? python?
static viper
whats a dataasset
floral lion
@static viper I think https://api.unrealengine.com/INT/API/Runtime/Engine/Engine/UDataAsset/index.html is what he meant
@unreal spoke You can do that in editor, during run-time dataassets are fixed / baked iirc
(like they are changed in editor but nothing above like Standalone or Packaged)
unreal spoke
@floral lion Great. Editor would work for me. Any idea how can I do it? C++ is not an option for me
floral lion
I think you can just use a BP and use a Call From Editor function
the API should be exposed since the python support was added for asset function scripting ?
ive only read about it but already forgot what it is called there is a BP class which adds itself to asset action iirc
AssetActionUtility*
@unreal spoke yeah seems to be what I meant - requires 4.20 though
https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Builds/4_20 | "New: Scripted Extensions for Actor and Content Browser Context Menu"
unreal spoke
@floral lion Awesome ๐ Thanks
@floral lion I cannot find the way. The assetActionUtility is not a problem. The problem is the BP to create the data asset. Should I use "Create asset data"?
floral lion
No you create on by using the DataAsset wizard (right-click -> misc -> data asset) and then use the class of that dataasset in the AssetActionUtility
and script your update things
unreal spoke
@floral lion ok I follow until "use the class of that dataasset in the AssetActionUtility". I guess I need to override the GetSupportedClass function but I don't know how
Ideas to support the data asset in the action?
unreal spoke
nope
regal mulch
Okay, then I'm quiet :D
unreal spoke
I mean... I'm trying to create an asset while in the editor. In fact I don't even need to create it I just need to update it. But the idea was to do it from the editor, not while playing
regal mulch
Yeah it's an Asset after all. You don't update them from Runtime anyway
It's like trying to update a Texture or Sound runtime.
Assets should be Static data, at least during runtime.
Preruntime should be fine of course
unreal spoke
yep, but I don't know first how to make the actionutility to appear in my data asset, and second I have no idea how to update the data asset with blueprints. Any tutorials/docs that could help? The official doc seems useless from BP side.
regal mulch
Why would you need to update it through some code though?
Usually you just open it and set whatever variable it has
Is there some reasoning behind having some sort of actionality doing that?
@unreal spoke
keen pawn
my dudes just a quick one
how can i change the pivot offset on the door
in a blueprint
regal mulch
iirc you can't
keen pawn
sigh
regal mulch
So either reimport it with a proper pivot
Or put a SceneComponent as parent
And rotate the scenecomponent
But I would advise properly exporting your mesh
But maybe there is an option by now that can do that afterwards
UE4 changed a lot :D
grim ore
^ technically it's already a child of a scene component so just place it properly and rotate the scene component/actor
fierce tulip
wasnt there a new thing that allows to change pivots? or am I confused with some weird mp pack?
keen pawn
the mesh and the handles are separate though
regal mulch
@fierce tulip That's where I'm not sure either
grim ore
child the handles to the door mesh then
so scene root -> door mesh -> handles
rorate scene root/actor to roate the door.
fierce tulip
"ALT + MiddleMouse to move the pivot, then Right-click the actor and choose Pivot > Set as Pivot Offset to save it."
try that
(with a test mesh preferably)
grim ore
the offset in the static mesh editor works as well when reimporting, you don't have to much with your 3d software you can offset it in the editor itself on reimport.
fierce tulip
keen pawn
@grim ore I have sorted out the parenting, so your saying add another object and rotate that object to move the door?
grim ore
in your example your scene root (the base object) is already another object
the mesh is a child of that, rotating the scene root or the actor BP will rotate all children appropriately
keen pawn
ah i see
grim ore
yeah so if you offset your door mesh so the 0,0 of the scene is your pivot point then when you rotate the actor/pawn/root you will rotate along that 0,0 point
grim ore
importing it with the correct offset is of course the correct answer but easy fixes are easy fixes... for now lol
I have done a few yep ๐
keen pawn
Nice, yeah i watched alot of them when i first started
great stuff
๐
@fierce tulip tried that video dude, its not a perma solution
fierce tulip
if you save the offset it should be permanent, but even with other suggestions its always good practice to set the pivots correctly in your 3d tool of choice
whole gale
@sleek solar Did you find a place to upload your assets ? Can't you publish hem on the Unreal Marketplace ?
manic pawn
https://i.imgur.com/Sjz0Vdo.png and with that, the game went ๐ฎ and the rest was pointless
sleek solar
@whole gale didn't have time to...
whole gale
@sleek solar Okay, your cel-shading is pretty nice
grim ore
2+2=4!
lilac cobalt
Everything work fail
I must check to this checkbox..and everything work same on 1080p monitor
grim ore
so it does work fine or not?
I run UE4 on a 1440p monitor 100% scaling with no issues here, 4k should work the same just super small unless you using scaling
and if you use scaling just change resolutions instead and hope it works lol
lilac cobalt
if I check that checkbox
everything work same on 1080p monitor but the text inside Editor is blurry..not clear
grim ore
yeah that makes sense as I doubt it would use cleartype at that point
you would probably have the same issue if you downscaled the monitor itself to a lower resolution
I am pretty sure this is just one of the downsides of using a 4k monitor at this point with UE4 ๐ฆ
grim sinew
If youโre using monitor scaling of any kind of messes up Unreals editor
It gets confused and runs at a lower resolution entirely
ember hinge
Hey, I'm not sure if I'm posting in the right chat, but I'm trying to do something a bit oddball and figured I'd turn to this discord for help
I'm not super big into 3D / stereoscopy / VR, but I discovered Ansel stereo screenshots look absolutely gorgeous
example:
I discovered you could force stereo output for real-time play via -emulatestereo on the command line
Unfortunately, this seems to be optimized for VR device instead of SBS viewing, as the FOV is waaay out of wack
judging by some Google sleuthing, it seems I'm unable to change the FOV / aspect ratio without downloading a dev build of UE4 itself, is that correct?
light lark
Hey guys ๐ Nothing unreal related here but i didnt know where else i could ask. Is there a way to change the color of your RGB strips that are built in to your pc to an RGB wave? They ar econnected to my motherboard but i dont know if there is any software to add wave lightning to them since i just have a remote control that has like... breathing and then color hanging and normal colors but not something like a rainbow RGB wave
unreal spoke
How to cast "Udatassets" in blueprint? There is no "Cast to Data Asset" node...
manic pawn
cast it to the specific subclass of data asset you want
unreal spoke
@manic pawn Ah that makes sense. Thanks ๐
unreal spoke
Is possible to make a data asset in editor from scratch? I mean not based in another data asset
north nova
im not really sure where this question should go, but anyways, does anyone know if there is a way to export out a bezier curve from blender with an animation and import it with said animation into ue4
manic pawn
what do you mean make it from scratch? @unreal spoke
are you talking about instances or a data asset class
fierce tulip
try #looking-for-work and read its pinned post
subtle sedge
Ohh, i know about this board. I was be already posted here. I just fall in total depression and now search job everywere =((
Nooone need 3d artists =(((
unreal spoke
@manic pawn I'm probably talking about a class. Right now in the editor if you try to make a data asset it asks you which data asset class do you want to base it on. I want to define my own data asset.
manic pawn
you're not basing it on something, you're making an instance of a specific data asset class that is saved to a package on disk
I'm not sure if you can derive UDataAsset with bp, normally you make subclasses of this in c++
plush yew
Good day to everyone!
regal mulch
DataAssets can only be subclassed in C++ afaik
plush yew
I am a new here. So the main purpose why I am here is to search mates for UE4 developing skills.
Where I can search for team in order to develope my skills and help each other?
regal mulch
Don't think we have channe lfor that or?
If not, make a post in #looking-for-talent and mark it unpaid and explain what your goal is
plush yew
Ok. Thanks for fast response
pearl saffron
guys how to fix [SM5] Only translucent materials can use the scene color node.
without translucent mode
help
fierce tulip
you cant
pearl saffron
can i replace this node
plush yew
Excuse me. Anyone knows how to apply my resume in Job board " Looking- for- work"?
pearl saffron
i dont know
plush yew
Honestly ๐
manic pawn
pinned message in the channel
plush yew
Understood. Will try now. Thanks
unreal spoke
@manic pawn I mean data asset class (I think). My own data "structure". In the editor you can create data asset but that one must be based on another data asset (a class I guess). I want to ue my own data asset class. And c++ is not an option for me
static viper
you can only do that in c++
you could create semi content containers
even have them as singular variable types...
but in the end they are fake and not attached to the system
data structure sounds just like structure by the way...
and structs can be used as variables
but those are again made out of ue4 known var types
crystal arrow
umm sorry for interrupt but can u guys help me with that?
grim ore
what's the actual problem/issue/weirdness?
regal mulch
@unreal spoke You can't.
DataAssets classes can not be subclassed in Blueprints.
You can't create your own class in Blueprints.
You need to use C++ for that or use something else than DataAssets
crystal arrow
@grim ore my character wont aim at the direction when it walks and aim
regal mulch
Then you Math is probably wrong?
You never showed us that AnimGraph or?
Don't you normally use an AimOffset for that?
Also you might want to post this into #animation
crystal arrow
ok
plush yew
how can i trigger a sequence by a line trace
grim ore
newer machines have a higher IPC and will be naturally faster clock for clock. UE4 for lighting and shader compilation will use all available cores and clock speeds. yes a newer machine will be faster if you match the cores/threads.
now how often you use lighting builds and shader compiles is on your project and how much it might help in the long run
gilded badger
speaking of which.. and sorry to interject, but I'm getting serious lag in editor, mostly when menuing around. RTX 2080, i5 6600, 16gb ram, happening in multiple versions. FPS is around 100 when editor is in the background, but drops to 20 when i focus in and start hovering over things.
grim ore
I am using a i7-2600/1050ti setup here right now and I have a 5820k/1080 setup at home and the difference is VERY noticeable when saving materials and opening projects.
both have SSD so the drive is not a bottleneck
I also used a 7300HQ-I5 (no hyperthreading) and while faster clock to clock than the 2600-I7 the lack of hyperthreading hurt it when compiling
yeah the GPU is kinda moot when editing for wait times its like all pure cpu , ram, and drive
and the newer/faster/more cores you can push at it the less wait lol
tall pendant
ram doesn't make a huge defference imho. cpu on the other hand does.
grim ore
I am running 64GB of slower ram and I just go meh on the speed since I never run out of memory lol. Hitting the drive pagefile just blows
tall pendant
running an i7 2600 here as well and it shows its age
esp. on source builds and light builds
grim ore
16GB for sure, that CPU seems to get good reviews
a ryzen might be a good alternative tho
its the more cores that makes a difference for ryzen
tall pendant
yeah. i'm considering a switch to AMD's TR platform for my new workstation
gilded badger
Think I solved my thing if anyone is interested. G-SYNC fucks up framerate in editor, but you can disable it specifically in unreal in your nvidia settings
tall pendant
the nice thing with AMD is they keep supporting TR4 for a while. so you can start with a lower end threadripper and upgrade later
grim ore
yep same here, ryzen or TR is my next plan to replace my 5820k in the next year or so. getting another 4 or more cores makes me happy
tall pendant
dont know if intel is doing similar
foggy merlin
Hey guys, super quick question. I've got interp to movement on an actor, I'd like to make the control points to it external variables because when I use it as a child of another component I can't edit the control points on the fly. Is there any way to do this? I'm so lost!
primal musk
hey, i'm new to unreal engine, i used other engines before, do you guys have an tips for newcomers?
no
i'm not even sure if the engine i've used before is considered an engine
i was useing cube 2 if anyone is familar with
primal musk
for a long time tho ^^
fierce tulip
lol
primal musk
I see
grim ore
swarm helps if you have a ton of stuff to light and machines to help with. Mainly with production lighting on bigger scenes
unreal spoke
@regal mulch Thanks ๐ฆ
primal musk
i tried importing an fbx file, waited for 10 minutes and now it crashed :l
grim ore
in the launcher next to each version of the engine installed is a drop down menu, there is options in that menu, in that options menu is the option to install that option
bitter iris
Yeah but would me installing that for 4.20.3, work for the UE4 Source from git?
grim ore
oh good point, if using the source your going to have to compile the source with debugging as the target
pallid compass
source has debug symbols by default
compiling debug mode only stops optimisations by the compiler
proven ivy
now that's a new one: trying to sign in in answerhub I ended up on this page https://answers.unrealengine.com/users/42047/photo/view.html?time=1452698603521&s=1024 and I have no clue who that is oO
proven ivy
obviously but why clicking the sing in button brought me to that image? I'm suspecting some dark magic >.<
proven halo
ุชูุนุจ roblox
๐
plain gazelle
plush yew
if you were already clicking a link to there but weren't signed in, maybe it redirected back after signing in ๐คท
dark scarab
viscid canyon
Hey all. Is houdini decent for 3D Character Creation?
as in, no other 3D tools other than it
dim arch
they added a lot of new modelling/game tools in the most recent release
so its possible, but stuff like zbrush is better for modelling workflow
also, is there any bug report channel on the discord server? because I find a few bugs but I cant seem to submit a ticket because of VPN issues
dim arch
zbrush core isnt too expensive
viscid canyon
Currently trying to don many hats and trying to figure out the best 3D software to start with. I have some experience with Maya in the past.
I am a software engineer by trade but have done level design in the past and a touch of 3D modeling (not much beyond tinkering)
dim arch
houdini is primarily a VFX/Film application, but it has enough tools to make game-res assets
also its pretty good for an engineer
because its node based/procudral system which has a sdk and python editor scripting
I think it will be pretty successful in the future as you can use machine learning with it, and also its particle systems can be integrated into ue4
maya is the best to start with imo
viscid canyon
Right. I started back with 3DS Max way back in the day and moved to maya. Followed a tutorial on making a realistic alien head and made a futuristic gateway for unreal tournament 2k3 but thats pretty much it ๐ I have a large gap in my learning (12 years?)
dim arch
yeah thats quite some time, but the modelling principles are the same, mostly subdivision surfaces, retopo, normal map etc not too much has changed
bitter iris
how can i do this when it doesnt let me open it in vs
viscid canyon
I never got to texturing my 3D models though
so that will be new
Mostly it was just trying to get polygon modeling down... though.... sculpting looks awesome
grim ore
@bitter iris I guess it would depend on why you can't open it in VS. Fix that problem then you can compile is probably your choice.
bitter iris
Like do iopen the uproject?
grim ore
the uproject is for unreal, the sln is for visual studio
bitter iris
i cant generate the sln as i need c++ files it says
but i cant get into the project again to do so lol
bitter iris
cause i need to build the uproject apperently
grim ore
I think the thing that is missing is how did this all start
bitter iris
well i originally had the c++ built, then deleted it an now wont let me open it
grim ore
roll back to an older version using your source control
or remake the project with the c++ code then move your other code in or copy the code from a remade project into this one
or technically you could manually make a c++ class and add it to your uproject
but uh if you deleted the c++ code you had originally to make it work you probably need to get that back
bitter iris
okay ill see if i can restore it
viscid canyon
@dim arch, so is zbrushcore a yearly price of $180?
grim sinew
@viscid canyon if you want to make characters, zbrush is almost a requirement of you want any sort of fidelity out of it. Zbrush or 3d coat.
bitter iris
zbrush is $180 a year? I thought it was $180 one off
viscid canyon
if its $180 for good... I may have to get it
Do you think ZBrush + Houdini is enough?
or is Maya still a big player?
gets sort of costly if I have to learn 3 3D studio packages
dim arch
thats enough with houdini 17
they have a one click retopo bake solution
you probably would want to use substance painter for texturing though
painter/designer
grim sinew
zbrush core is $180 I think, the full ver of zbrush is $750 last I checked
And while they're not obligated to offer free upgrades, they have done so for the last 19 years and show no signs of stopping that.
But if you're serious about making characters, zbrush is pretty much your only real option
smoky stream
zbrush tends to be rather high poly, so its not the best for putting stuff directly into unreal
iirc unreal is moastly build around 3dsmax/maya for the modelling workflow
and blender is usable as well
viscid canyon
Just playing around with it
@smoky stream Right but aren't there tools to lower the triangles for a high poly model and then extrapolate a normal map from that high poly to apply to the lower poly model?
smoky stream
none come to mind, but more than likley there are
imo its just an extra step to the workflow that could be avoided by using another tool
but zbrush is the best of the best for sculpting faces/bodys
viscid canyon
This is what is so frustrating coming from a programming/level design side of things is trying to find a thread to grasp when it comes to 3D Art. I am not sure where to start ๐
smoky stream
blender is better for hard surce stuff from my experience
viscid canyon
gah.... blender is a nightmare to navigate
smoky stream
i started out with blender, so i should state that bias
blender is really damn quick once you figure out the hotkeys
all 5000 of them...
viscid canyon
I wished I had started with it because I have Maya/3DS Max related experience bleeding through clashing with blender
smoky stream
steep learning curve to say the least
i actually tried sfm thinking it would be easier than blender
i couldnt even load a scene
so i got stuck there
blender gave me a cube and told me to go nuts
but there are alot of hotkeys to remember with blender
but hot damn is it fast once you know some of them
viscid canyon
oh ive done some blender. I followed that popular donut tutorial on youtube
thats as far as I got though
viscid canyon
oooooo!
smoky stream
sutch a crutch its amazing
viscid canyon
I never knew about that
smoky stream
once i found it it became so much easier
its way more trackpad friendly than the normal controls
viscid canyon
what popular games use Blender with the 3D artists not having crazy experience?
smoky stream
seeing as i dont know how companys work interally, i cant say
viscid canyon
ah okay
smoky stream
also blender has its python api so it can now be automated inside unreal
so thats a nice bonus
viscid canyon
I have been looking at houdini so maybe Blender + Houdini would be a nice mix
Houdini is awesome for procedural assets
smoky stream
my workflow was blender -> substance painter -> unreal
worked a charm for what i needed
viscid canyon
I really want to learn substance painter.
viscid canyon
same... probably worse
smoky stream
i can model better than the average programmer
which isnt saying mutch
i can draw better than a 80y/o with parkinsons
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Eomve my crowning achivment is a box
viscid canyon
im used to a web development world peppered with level design (Doom2, HL1, Hl2, UT2k3, UT2k4) and software dev ๐
viscid canyon
still looks slick
smoky stream
i tried some web dev a while ago
viscid canyon
eh... its my profession. I want to get out of it
smoky stream
it was a good learning experience
viscid canyon
I am not passionate about it
viscid canyon
I make good $$$ but.... that doesn't constitute a good healthy creative life
viscid canyon
We are using Angular 6 at work and using Hapi.js/Node.js for backend API
smoky stream
i was using npm create-react-app
viscid canyon
ah yeah. React is popular
smoky stream
then i said fuck it and used flask instead and all was well
viscid canyon
have fun dealing with state ๐
smoky stream
react's state managment is a fun time
i've had to help my dad with react recently
he really didnt enjoy it
viscid canyon
how old are you if you dont mind me asking?
smoky stream
you first
viscid canyon
34
smoky stream
16
viscid canyon
ah nice. seems you are on the right track ๐
I started doing html/css around 12
that was when blink tags were acceptable XD
and doom gifs ๐
smoky stream
<div style="width: 0px; height: 0px;">.</div>
```has saved me way too oftenewwwww no inline styles ๐
smoky stream
it just sort of makes stuff line properly
for some reason
html is a mystery to me
viscid canyon
add that to a class or id
smoky stream
it just sort of magically works
for most things i use class and id
that was just an example
the worst is inline javascript
viscid canyon
<div class="card"> Stuff</div>
.card {
width:0;
height:0;
}
Right. The best lesson I learned was this. Move CSS to declarations in a CSS file and NEVER EVER EVER name the class or ID something that would indicate a style related text (eg. Blue, Shadow, etc)
HTML = Semantics, CSS = Looks
smoky stream
im seeingly so fucking lucky to have a parent whos been doing this stuff for 35 odd years
viscid canyon
hah
smoky stream
my old man seemingly knows everything about this stuff
smoky stream
im still working on that myself
once i figure out my stdlib fully im going to add an html module to make that stuff programmatic and easy
because html + css is a pain
i seem to also be lucky with the common sense part of programming
so thats nice
grim sinew
Keg, yeah you can use ZBrush for pretty much anything really.
@viscid canyon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFa96gQ9Q3Q ๐
Zbrush does have regular sub-d modeling built in, with something called ZModeler, and it's really fast compared to blender/maya/whatever
I don't really touch maya anymore for modeling, aside from retopology
Booleans in zbrush are really good too, you can do it on multi-million poly meshes and it doesn't even lag
viscid canyon
isnt zmodeler the pro subscription?
I don't have that kind of $$$ to drop on that sadly
grim sinew
ZBrush's regular version has it, and zbrush has no subscription options
You buy zbrush once, you have it forever.
grim sinew
$895
grim sinew
There is no zbrush pro, there's just zbrush and zbrush core. Core has maybe 80% of the features cut out, I wouldn't recommend it.
Unless you just want to sculpt and do nothing but sculpt
viscid canyon
Right. So I was thinking of ZBrush for sculpting and then Maya for Texturing.
grim sinew
You can't texture in Maya
viscid canyon
well applying materials to the 3D model in maya.
tropic oracle
maybe he's thinking UV mapping in Maya to get the texture coords?
viscid canyon
yes
grim sinew
Right, well yeah that you can do.
For actual texturing, you need to use either Substance (designer/painter) or Mari
viscid canyon
again.... not a true 3D artist ๐ mostly a programmer/Level Designer lol
Hrm okay
grim sinew
It's addictive, you'll cave in soon enough. Thankfully there's an upgrade path from the cut down to full version of zbrush for when you do ๐
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPwZq5haG2s Zbrush 2018 is fun, there's a new mode that adds topology as you sculpt, where you need it.
tropic oracle
I can still remember when Zbrush just came out. It's come a long way since
viscid canyon
Right well... I am fighting debt already as it is and trying to find a justification to buy 3D packages so I think a few simple games under my belt would do some good.
maybe I am trying to be too ambitious
๐
grim sinew
Early on, just make cool looking stuff honestly. You'll improve so fast that your first few projects will have noticeable improvement from just one asset to the next
Better to make many, small projects
viscid canyon
Yeah. Right now its just the noise of too many hats I guess
tropic oracle
also noteworthy that you don't have t be good at 3D art to make a good game. Antichamber for instance only had one visible character aside from the player and it was a rotating/flying cube
viscid canyon
while I could find a 3D artist, I kind of want to accomplish something simple across the entire workflow myself
Anyways, I gotta head to bed for work in the morning. Thank for your feedback ๐
plush yew
Hey has anyone ever gotten audio to work in unreal engine, I know this is an area that unreal engine lacks and we're supposed to use 3rd party but was hoping it'd have some basic support
i mean it allows to import file but we cannot do anything inside the engine as there is no audio support
grim sinew
Not entirely sure you're talking about Unreal.
plush yew
if I try to drag file into "sound" in blueprint it is not recognised, I've tried forcing it in engine source but it causes the engine to crash
well im familier with unreal, but for audio work for 3d projects we're supposed to use Unity as no one in the studio has ever had any luck with UE4 in this area
grim sinew
Okay, you need more than just a question or two answered, you need a basic tutorial or just the documentation I think
plush yew
the way we've done it in the past is to havve a second program running alongside our project and have ue4 communicate out>in
plush yew
well in unity we import and can drag audio file into the scene in 3d, but this action is not supported in ue4
grim sinew
Cool. This isn't Unity, can't help you with that. All I can do is show you the documentation and say start there. https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Engine/Audio/Overview
Unreal supports audio just fine, every single UE4 game manages it. You can too.
plush yew
most use fmod, we have a license for it but haven't set it up yet
grim sinew
If you say so.
Look, just download UT4's editor or something and see how they do it, I don't know what to tell you. There's so much to go over it would take more time than I have tonight.
There's also the "Content Examples" project, they probably have an audio example there somewhere.
plush yew
hmm yeh will try that
i was hoping it'd take less than several long hours to simply drag an audio source in lol
yeh it doesnt support here, we cannot do anything with this lol
grim sinew
If you give up so quickly, I'm frankly astounded you make games in the first place.
Give it some time, learn how it works.
This is getting ridiculous.
plush yew
ah we don't normally i just wanted to throw together an example quickly to show my boss
im quite experienced in the audio field (I do live Djing as a 2nd job), don't have much time on me hands really for game dev I do mostly graphics, we use Unity for any 3d and audio normally, but I prefer Unreal and we use Unreal for game dev
but it seems
Q: Can you drag an audio file into UE4 in less than an hour?
A: No is what im getting here lol
smoky stream
i managed to do it
create an actor and have it play that sound in blueprints
have the event trigger on some triggerable event
done
PlaySoundCue is the node i belive
or PlayAudioCue
something like that
@plush yew
smoky stream
you can create a class variable
plush yew
creating sound que not accepted either
smoky stream
create a class variable
sand birch
um hello everyone, I am a very new to programing and very bad at it as well, I read the rules and I came here looking for help
smoky stream
help with what?
sand birch
so I managed (barely) to make a very basic hunger and thirst system
but i really want to flesh it out using real world studies on starvation and how it affects you
so heres what ive found
plush yew
sand birch
i did research
plush yew
smoky stream
oh go read the damn tutorials @plush yew
sand birch
so the body can in fact go without food for a good couple of weeks or even months if water is available
smoky stream
it is what it is now live with it and adapt
sand birch
depending on how fat you are
plush yew
right now we're using ogg
sand birch
can I link the stages of starvation
plush yew
UE4 only supports WAV. It's in the documentation
smoky stream
@sand birch thats all relativley simple to implement with some if statements
plush yew
oh... maybe the documentation i was reading on supported file formats is out of date
smoky stream
if(hunger < 50) { /*do thing that hungry people do */ }
sand birch
i made the hunger system
plush yew
aha yeh that works better
im surprised ue4 allows unsuported files for import, and gives them a deceptive icon lol.
sand birch
I don' t think there is anyone in game-design should i wait for the next day it is getting late for me
Well maybe I should go to bed anyway good night everyone and I hope to be talking with you soon.
storm venture
hey so i reset windows and reinstalled the ue4 launcher but it doesnt know where i put the engine, which is on another drive
how do i point the launcher to the engine?
storm venture
thanks
lilac cobalt
umbral tartan
I'm on 4.20.3. Unreal Studio Beta is "Active" (according to the launcher), but on the project selection screen there's no "Unreal Studio" tab to the right of | Blueprint || C++ || as indicated in the docs here. https://docs.unrealengine.com/en-US/Studio/UE4ForEnterprise
Docs outdated maybe?
I want to check out that "Product Viewer" template.
Ah nm. Looks like the tab got removed, and all 4.20 projects on are Studio. My bad.
regal mulch
How you do this? You have some sort of Structure (Sturct inside of an Array) for your Actionbar.
Then you perform a Drag&Drop operation in UMG where you can specify a payload (so the required information about your ability).
Then when dropping onto the action bar, you fill the Array Entry with the Payload
Rest is UI
Remember that your UI always only displays information
thorn vector
how do i do it
i already know the drag n drop part
but when the ability in the one of the bar how do i execute it
thorn vector
can u show me the code in blueprint of how should i perform it
regal mulch
If you click on the slot 3 of your action bar, you execute the third*entry of your array
No I can't sorry :P
earnest cape
Is blueprint nativization working properly now?
thorn vector
so bout my actionbar @regal mulch can i use this tutorial series to make it
because it close to what im currently want to make
and my inventory system based on this tutorial
short onyx
Hey guys, someone know the approximate price for a Modeler+Rigger+Animator for realistic character (human) ? We need one but don't know the price ๐ค
static viper
cod ww2 human character?
short onyx
Yup, complete
static viper
that will cost you aloototototot
short onyx
Yeah, but how much? x)
static viper
you will have to start above K
it depends on the artist
and one the packages
soo this could go high fast
oblique coyote
Expect 200$+ depending on complexity and what you actually look for
Time is the most valueble thing in that equasion
oblique coyote
20h on a 10$/H not that unrealistic
short onyx
We need like 200+ character + variation for customization
static viper
if its unique
short onyx
Maybe not 200 at start but....
static viper
then you can start with 2000
oblique coyote
well good luck going broke ;P
static viper
you can make modular characters
oblique coyote
If you dont have a massive budget you wont get far
static viper
that will raise price again
short onyx
Yeah, modular can be better for us, i'm gonna see with the projet manager
static viper
facial animation is also extra
short onyx
We don't need a huge facial animation
static viper
make work packages
regal mulch
10$/hour for something like that is just rude
short onyx
Basic one
oblique coyote
Well most people i worked for braught me down to 8 so im probably not the right person to talk about this stuff
static viper
get the base character , textures skeleton rig done first.
that will be the base
then you make a list with animations
regal mulch
@oblique coyote You are underselling by A LOT
static viper
every animation will cost extra
clothing can be done afterwards
make a list with clothing
oblique coyote
Well i cant get work at all as a hard surface artist atm so im takeign what i can @regal mulch
regal mulch
Welp
static viper
concepts
short onyx
Thanks, we gonna make a full list :)
I gonna see for modular character ๐ค
regal mulch
I wouldn't even wake up for 8-10$/hour
static viper
modular is more like... blend morphs
oblique coyote
Welp guess how i feel atm ๐
short onyx
Well, for the player it's gonna be customizable, we already have the code, but not the model (work with the UE model for now)
static viper
with the code already done you can tell exactly what you need
oblique coyote
But yeah maybe i should just expand my hard surface gallery on artstation maybe that will help any ideas what wuld look on a Portfolio for a 3d Artist on arstation @regal mulch because i have no idea what i should really put on there if im honest
regal mulch
What are we even discussing here? Go to #looking-for-work or post in #looking-for-talent , check Portfolios and pass the people you think match your style a doc with all requirements
And then live with the fact that this will cost a few thousands
short onyx
I'm not, i'm just get info to the price and how to make it work for searching someone ๐
regal mulch
The price is up to the person you hire
short onyx
I'm gonna post in the channel when we know exactly what we need
short onyx
I'll do ๐
cloud cobalt
Anyone has knowledge of with releasing a game on the Epic launcher for modding purposes ?
oblique coyote
Nope tryed to get info on that in the past youll probably have to personally contac a special somebody on the forums (atleast thats what i was told) Everybody can correct me on this if yo uahve any more proper knowledge about it,.
short onyx
I'm interested for that too, we may need that for full release x)
oblique coyote
@cloud cobalt i was told thatlast time i asked the same question
Took a while to find it :p
cloud cobalt
Well okay, I'll do that, thank you
regal mulch
a special somebody How can you not know Chance ;-;
oblique coyote
im a pleb cedric i do my 3d art and thats it also im really bad with names
regal mulch
All these young people.
He was community manager at the start. I don't blame you if you aren't around for that long :P
oblique coyote
i see xD
fierce tulip
I miss Chance and Alex.
Things changed and you can tell its a more hands-off approach nowadays, which makes sense since most communities are well established now.
cloud cobalt
Well, Chance doesn't have a MP option apparently
static viper
i think i started with unreal when alex was becoming manager
regal mulch
Yeah Chance became senior and Alex went from QA to CM
fierce tulip
i sometimes cant believe how much time has passed since ue4 got released for 19,- a month
fierce tulip
i can remember where I was, who I talked to, and was totes excited the entire day
static viper
its totally worth it
oblique coyote
well i was here when ue4 was still pay to use right before the free to use inception :p
fierce tulip
I made a joke about a week before it went from 19,- to free, and I suddenly had dm's and emails from epic staffs
fierce tulip
(about ue4 becoming free)
oblique coyote
lol
fierce tulip
execs apparently went into a call about who leaked info
then the bomb dropped and even had people emailing me about how I found out.
static viper
i found out on moddb
oblique coyote
When a joke goes too far
fierce tulip
I just landed in SanFran, and my phone blew up when I took it off airplane mode
Then Chance told me about the chaos I caused XD
static viper
you evil twist
oblique coyote
lol
static viper
i knew it all the time!!!!
cloud cobalt
So with Chance not allowing DMs is there any other way to get in contact ?
This whole mod editor thing really stinks
static viper
you can always use twitter
cloud cobalt
No DM there either
oblique coyote
I agree on that it was a pain to get any information on it and well i can remember you telling me back then to just do it ๐
oblique coyote
Now you go trough the same pain i went trough @cloud cobalt but i hope youll have more luck
bitter iris
Could anyone help me with this please
Discovering modules, targets and source code for project...
While compiling D:\Survivor X\Survivor X - Current\Intermediate\Build\BuildRules\SurvivorXModuleRules.dll:
d:\Survivor X\Survivor X - Current\Intermediate\Source\SurvivorX.Build.cs(3,14) : error CS0101: The namespace '<global namespace>' already contains a definition for 'SurvivorX'
d:\Survivor X\Survivor X - Current\Intermediate\Source\SurvivorX.Target.cs(3,14) : error CS0101: The namespace '<global namespace>' already contains a definition for 'SurvivorXTarget'
ERROR: UnrealBuildTool Exception: Unable to compile source files.
CS0101: The namespace '<global namespace>' already contains a definition for 'SurvivorXTarget'
bitter iris
shall i just delete the intermediate folder an try again?
oblique coyote
What are you trying to do ?
bitter iris
I'm needing to generate vs files so that I can create a dedicated server
round ivy
How does ue4 works with wmr? Compatible?
short onyx
Hint : WidgetChild ๐
fierce tulip
brittle gulch
Hi guys, is this talk by Ryan Brucks on Foliage imposter exists somewhere?
http://schedule.gdconf.com/session/realistic-foliage-imposter-and-forest-rendering-in-ue4/852286
plush yew
@brittle gulch Not sure but he talks about it a little here: https://youtu.be/1xiwJukvb60?t=2879
sudden agate
all hail magician Ryan
sinful umbra
teal tulip
isn't complete at all or a pain to make it work so
fierce tulip
better ask @elfin jacinth or so. not many here have access to it
grim ore
I didn't see it posted yet but apparently in the new launcher you can hide vault items you not longer want to show
hard gulch
@fierce tulip - Thanks, will do
plush yew
@static viper u still there?
static viper
ark did it a bit different
plush yew
oh
static viper
they used some of ue4s tools
plush yew
ah
static viper
but coded most of it themselves it seems
static viper
ยดยดยด Yes, and we have designed the UE4 Editor and launcher to accommodate this. We aim to build a unified UE4 development and modding community. Here is how this works: Youโre free to release your game through any distribution channels of your choosing, however the UE4 Editor (including modified versions) and code may only be distributed through official Epic channels (e.g. the UE4 launcher for binaries, and GitHub for source), to users who have accepted the EULA.
Epic has opened up the Epic Games launcher to developers who wish to ship games supporting mods using the Unreal Editor. This is a great opportunity for games to inspire and benefit a rapidly-growing UE4 mod community. For an example of this process in action, see the Unreal Tournament tab within the UE4 launcher: it hosts the game, the editor, and a marketplace for user-created content. If youโre interested in pursuing this route for your project, contact us. ยดยดยด
oof
Can I ship a game that supports mods using the UE4 Editor or source?
Also this is interesting
plush yew
i found a interesting link to
look down there it sais something about loading pak files
plush yew
noice leme read it
plush yew
it is large
but its a good one
i love modable games
so why not try and make them
thay last longer and are fun
cloud cobalt
Technical support for mods is trivial : distribute your editor and release archive, explain people how to do patches
It's basically just the patching pipeline
The real issue is the UE4 license
manic pawn
when finished, contact chance ivey on forum for help distributing the editor
cloud cobalt
You don't need any "load content dynamically" stuff
@manic pawn Chance doesn't have PMs
manic pawn
huh
that's strange because I've talked to him about mod editors in the past and can send him one just fine
plush yew
@cloud cobalt oh
wait the license does allow modable games right?
else i just add simple scripting
manic pawn
to make a proper modable game you need to make a custom build of the editor and distribute it using the unreal launcher
cloud cobalt
The license doesn't allow redistributing the editor
plush yew
i will make sure to add a disclaimer and say all user content is beyond my responsiblity
@cloud cobalt no need
i think i can get away with letting them use the normal editor
aslong as i can mount pak files from there projects
cloud cobalt
If your game doesn't need any custom actor class, then sure, but that's incredibly limiting
plush yew
true but i culd use unrealjs for coding
thas a plugin allowing javascript to be run in UE4
so thay code there actors for my game in js
and the content from paks
cloud cobalt
Or you could just stick to the regular tools and use the built-in modding support
Which is also paks
plush yew
oh
cloud cobalt
The problem with that is the UE4 license
plush yew
@cloud cobalt i didnt know about that thanks
why
if i dont use a custom editor
and just make it so thay can load pak files from there projects
and script js actors
then i dont break anything i think
cloud cobalt
If you can get away with custom actors in mods not needing any functionality from your game, then yeah ?
plush yew
brb
cloud cobalt
Not to mention people won't be able to test
cloud cobalt
The only real pipeline for modders is to release the full UE4 editor you use yourself - so that people can actually play your game with their mods, integrate well with your functionality, etc
And that ^ is what the UE4 license makes difficult
plush yew
true
but i think if i fork the origrnal private github
then link that to them
it still requires them to be added by epic
frank escarp
against EULA
plush yew
not if thay still have to link there github to epic to allow that @frank escarp
and even if i cant do that
i can code a unrealjs api
so thay use that to work with the game componends
livid haven
@plush yew Not sure why you're so averse to doing the proper thing.
plush yew
@livid haven i am still reading the article
about modding
from epic's unreal wiki
and i dont close out any ideas
i just think of them
cloud cobalt
UnrealJS is an additional problem, not a solution
cloud cobalt
Which problem does that solve ?
livid haven
If your solution to any problem is "more JavaScript", you're making more problems. ๐
plush yew
the custom actor ones
cloud cobalt
It doesn't
plush yew
it does support making custom actors
cloud cobalt
UnrealJS brings absolutely nothing here
plush yew
thas why i try to fix it
cause C++ is adding code to the exe
wich is imposible
without a full game src
cloud cobalt
Your real problem is : how are modders going to test their mod content ?
plush yew
oh
cloud cobalt
New level - how do they play it ?
plush yew
i know how
cloud cobalt
New character - how do they test it ?
New weapon - how do they balance it
etc
The only answer is that they need your full game content, one way or another
plush yew
true
but i culd make a plugin copying there pak files into the already installed game folder
and i can leave out the things i dont want people to mess with
and only include the meshes and blueprints
cloud cobalt
That doesn't change anything
livid haven
Why add JS when BP exists?
cloud cobalt
That's not a solution
plush yew
i am still thinking this out
livid haven
Complexity isn't a good thing to arbitrarily add because "options"
plush yew
better idea
scrap unrealjs
and just somehow make it so thay can load there dll into the game
and use bp
livid haven
Uh
cloud cobalt
no
livid haven
Loading strange DLLs from the internet.
plush yew
nvm thas indeed a horrable idea
livid haven
Absolutely not a good idea.
livid haven
Better better idea - get the clearance to distribute your editor with your source content... and be done with it.
plush yew
wich content is in there anyway
cloud cobalt
In reality, you have three choices here @plush yew
- fully open-source project where you distribute your entire project directory on Github including content
- going through the Epic launcher
- all your game logic and data stored externally in text files with very complete in-game tools to work on mods
Sorted from the most accessible to least
livid haven
Doesn't need to be text files for option 3, but, yeah.
plush yew
i already had the idea of them installing the epic launcher
and making a project using a template
plush yew
true
frank escarp
3 is possible, but its really fucking hard
i wanted to do that with json files
instead of using data assets like a normal guy
load game data through jsons
and allow them to be edited
livid haven
I mean, it's doable, it's just very limiting to only allow data edits.
plush yew
are blueprints stored in pak files?
frank escarp
yes
livid haven
Hold on, that's kind of a confusing question and answer.
Pak files are just archives.
plush yew
allow them to make there own paks that will be mounted
livid haven
Anything can be put in a pak file, content wise.
plush yew
C++ aswell?
frank escarp
no
frank escarp
C++ is on the Game.exe
plush yew
true
livid haven
Technically... yes... but that's brutal.
frank escarp
and cant be extended at all
plush yew
i know
frank escarp
you could use dlls, but the complexity now truly goes out of the window
plush yew
i make it so the mod exe launches a installer
pallid compass
fam ur gonna have a bad time
livid haven
I wouldn't opt to write bytecode into an asset and arbitrarily execute it. XD
frank escarp
what about you just do it like everyone else?
livid haven
THIS
pallid compass
ender is like 14 btw
plush yew
no
pallid compass
mentally 14*
broken shadow
Do it all in malbolge ๐
pallid compass
well my point being lacking exp and understanding
plush yew
i am mentally young
broken shadow
Nobody will ever crack it
plush yew
@pallid compass in ue4 yes
pallid compass
take it the easy way
plush yew
i am not rly expirenced in ue4
pallid compass
Because the chance of u even finishing a game is slim, assuming u want more than 5 mins of content
plush yew
but i am however in unity
plush yew
in unity i made loads of C# code
and i coded lots of linux programs in C++
and QT applications
pallid compass
then if uv done that i doubt u need help with what u want to do
static viper
even easy programs will do
plush yew
just shell programs and ncurses stuff
pallid compass
well i mean
plush yew
i know blueprints
pallid compass
u can do what factorio does
plush yew
and did alot in there
pallid compass
they can load data in too the game via xml stuff
basically most of there content is setup like that
static viper
if you never made a game before then ofc it isnt wise to jump for a moddable game right away
static viper
the process of actually finishing a game is... rarely known.
pallid compass
if u want to give them editor modding capacity
cloud cobalt
@plush yew My tip : stick to the vanilla Unreal Engine, don't mess with stuff you don't really need like an entire additional language, and make a finished game first
Modding is not something you should concern with right now
pallid compass
wait stranger
isent there an issue
with distributing the editor
for legal reasons
if u want to give them editor level modding tools
has to be through ue4 launcher right?
plush yew
@cloud cobalt good plan
pallid compass
(u prob said this before im guessing)
cloud cobalt
Yes @pallid compass
OR release your full project
Or be open-source with closed content
plush yew
i heared vanilla ue4 allows custom paks to
@regal mulch told me the game loads new paks added to a certian folder
cloud cobalt
Yes
plush yew
wich is good news
pallid compass
thats not for modding
plush yew
oh
pallid compass
afaik
pallid compass
honestly man dont even bother with modding
u will be lucky if u even finish your game
static viper
i send you the same article before
plush yew
nah just worked hard i am taking a rest now
static viper
i was saying that
static viper
you so sleepy
plush yew
leme take a youtube cat video and food filled break
or just any other vid not to compliated
cloud cobalt
Long story short : modding is only seriously approachable when your game is finished, and has a large audience
Work on that first
plush marsh
Hi guys. I've just asked for an opinions in anim channel , but i think everyone is asleep there. So , what do you guys think about animation pose tool (remember GDC talk about proc anim for indies ) ? Can you actually do a project with proper quality using pose animation ? By quality i mean , something like XCOM . Isometric , no cut-scenes, no close-ups, only humans
kindred viper
The tools are there in the engine to do it, so I dont see why not
plush marsh
It just i saw only one example and it is overgrowth. So , i am wondering is it a gimmick ?
In theory , it is very powerful . No need for complex animation. But in reality no one is trying to do it
kindred viper
I animate between poses a lot in my current project, but im using the blend as the interped animation. I could easily add more pose keyframes and tweak it out manually though. I've been nothing but impressed with the animation tools available in UE for a while now
cloud cobalt
@manic pawn I've emailed Chance so I'll see how it goes
cloud cobalt
Well shit, I see one now
crude jasper
Can anyone help me ??
crude jasper
ok