surely there are some quest issues, but in reality, there are very few actually game breaking ones
#ue4-general
cursive dirge
little token
@cloud cobalt ah. Thx
cloud cobalt
Like, you might have decent-looking water in UE4 pretty much immediatly
stiff leaf
yeah
cloud cobalt
But you're not getting Sea of Thieves's water unless they share that, or you spend half a year remaking it
cursive dirge
they probably did too
wary wave
I found Fallout 3 to be borderline unplayable due to bugs
stiff leaf
if you are not willing to put the time in something, then don't
wary wave
frequent crashes, FPS dips to the point of being a slideshow, getting physically stuck in the terrain etc
stiff leaf
no-ones rushing it
wary wave
took something like half an hour of faffing with config files just to get it to run
stiff leaf
im having the same problem with a few of my games too
little token
@molten birch So I guess games like Borderlands 2 that used UE3 was a modified version of the engine as well as when they showed off Borderlands 3 in UE4 it was modified as well?
cloud cobalt
Depending on the stage of development. The Borderlands 3 thing was probably half a month into preproduction and using the engine straight from Epic
Look no further than UT, for an Epic project - there's a fork of the engine right there in the code
You can derive that Epic always uses a custom engine for their games
cursive dirge
@wary wave but "config" issues are not an issue on consoles, they don't have random variations that fail the game
frank escarp
they do that. They also do it through branching, and merge the branches constantly
epic themselves said that their developers are using the "Promoted" branch
cursive dirge
(the point of the discussion was a claim that you can't play bethesda games on consoles)
cloud cobalt
I'm guessing the UE4 forks at Epic stay close to the real thing and they're actually working on that version first, and then move their changes to the main repo if it makes sense
At least in some cases
wary wave
I wouldn't even try to play it on consoles with the save game issues they tend to have
little token
@cloud cobalt thanks, this stuff is really interesting. Still a little confused on what they use in the end unless it's their own engine they create but it's still cool that in some of the steps they use tools that can be accessed by the public. Can't wait until this semester is over for I can dive more deep into this and create some more projects
cloud cobalt
Something like UE4 is basically a decade worth of work by many dozens of experienced engineers, if you want to do it again from scratch, it's a gigantic pile of work
In the end, developers change from 0 to maybe 1% of it
(1% of UE4 would be huge changes)
cloud cobalt
UE4 has something like 5 million lines ?
frank escarp
yes
cloud cobalt
My own, quite fairly large project is 100,000 lines just for the game - If I had needed some additional tools in the engine, it's safe to say 10% of our development time would be a decent metric
That'd be 10,000 lines out of 5,000,000 - much less than one percent
sudden agate
Can we have custom Scalability Groups?
I would like to break up the original Scalability Settings
User Settings only have functions to store the usual Scalability Groups 😦
little token
has anyone used a Xbox Kinect for animations?
leaden garnet
ey Time slager in the Blueprint Music System Live Training
fervent pendant
Do you guys have any idea why my grass is black? https://gyazo.com/c0c51f1c4b9cb50749162fc7372edd96
little token
have you tried changing the color to see if it's still black?
fervent pendant
little token
welp, im out of idea, I literally just learned how to put grass down less than 24 hours ago lol. Maybe if I was home I could figure out what's wrong
leaden dust
Hey guys
I just got a gtx 1070 and a ryzen 5 1600
And i got g skill ripjaws 2 x 8 ddr4 ram sticks
Will this be a good nuff pc to run UE4 at least decently?
fervent pendant
yes
fervent pendant
actually my grass turns black if there's no sunlight on the face >.>
cloud cobalt
@fervent pendant Is it dynamic lighting ?
fervent pendant
i tried both
cloud cobalt
Grass works decently with dynamic lighting and subsurface scattering
fervent pendant
I use fooliage and just set dynamic light there, that's all or i have something else to turn on?
honest vale
@fervent pendant you need a skylight
fervent pendant
haha
you wrote that as i placed a sky light man x)
Yup looks a lot better thx @honest vale 😃
bitter iris
Is there anything that can generate an EULA?
wary wave
don't generate a EULA, that's a terrible idea
a EULA is a legal agreement, it needs to be written by a solicitor
cloud cobalt
^
little token
I am guessing no one used a xbox kinect for animations before?
pallid compass
u need good capture software for it
night wigeon
@little token I was using first kinect with ipisoft recorder some time ago. It kinda worked, but jittering was awfully bad. You'll need more than one controller to do something stable.
Also, v2 is more jitter-proof as i heard
left ridge
quick question ....how can I make a mask for a material using the black areas of my texture sample? The texture updates during play so I can't do it in an image editor beforehand.
I though I could perhaps adjust the contrast till I have pure black and white (no gradients) in my image...but I could not figure this out
night karma
hi, guys i nedd a help pls
i don't have the target layers and i don't now
know why, sorry
plush yew
any idea why my AI actor freezes the engine when dragging him into the scene
only happened since latest hotfix
fringe olive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8KH4bMiUBE&t=0s Project JustRun
frosty bloom
A Demo without a second of gameplay? 🤔
cloud cobalt
Looks like gameplay to me
frosty bloom
More like a showcase of level design tbh
fringe olive
The game is still under develope*
I have 3 rounds for now
The video settings is done, now I need to make audio settings
Yea it is like a gameplay but is just a presentation
frosty bloom
I'm not criticizing, it looks like it can be fun. Was merely pointing out the choice of words
Good job so far, got a retro vibe 😄
fringe olive
@frosty bloom you can criticize me if you want , because I'm a really open minded student 😃
So I'm ok with that hehe 😃
cloud cobalt
As far as presentation go @fringe olive , my own advice would be high effort, no excuses. Don't upload a video that stutters, don't say in the description it only stutters in the video
Like, sure, people will understand, but it looks super amateur
fringe olive
It really helps me if you leave your opinion in comments below and if you subscribe, where I want to go? If you like this thing I would like to show you more details, so you're updated @frosty bloom
@cloud cobalt Yea maybe it looks amateur, what should I do ?
cloud cobalt
There is a number of steps you can take so that video is fine and doesn't lag. Lock your game to 30fps for video recording, try other capture software like OBS
30fps gameplay is fine, or at least it's much better than stuttering
cloud cobalt
You can also use a hardware HDMI recorder, or get a better machine alltogether
cloud cobalt
What do you use Media Player for ?
cloud cobalt
Get OBS, it's free and pretty much the best video recording software there is
cloud cobalt
You can't fix it after it's recorded
fringe olive
I used Media Player to review what I've recorded
cloud cobalt
Your recording stuttered, or your game stuttered during recording
Can't fix that, you need to record again
(well you can but it's painstaking)
fringe olive
Should I reinstall my windows?
cloud cobalt
No
lmfao
You need to practice video recording with different settings until you get reliable smooth video
frosty bloom
@fringe olive You should take a look at Matthew Palaje's youtube page if you need some inspiration for the Gameplay side of your game. He has quite a few videos that gives the same vibe as yours.
He also shares how he accomplish a lot of it so that might benefit you as well. Link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqPKRjVm36xmxu1OiegTWWg/videos
Add: Not my page, merely a recommendation
fringe olive
I've reocorded alot because I was a gamer and I recorded in many games and didn't made that shit
I know him
I've learned alot from him
cloud cobalt
It's crucially important, if you want your game to succeed, to have great presentation. Better not to have video at all than have stuttering video, imho
Well, better spend a week recording than have stuttering
More like
So try it again and again with optimized settings (like, lossless recording, GPU encoding etc)
Another point that many people fail to get is, game developers are not your audience. It's fine to talk about your game here but no one here will buy it or share it or subscribe to it.
You'll get feedback and technical help
cloud cobalt
You're welcome, good luck with your project
fringe olive
Thank you man 😃 I really appreciate it 😃
grim ore
Event Tick in Blueprint in UE4. It's a debated topic on if it's needed or not. Can anyone give any Examples of things that have to run in an event tick in a blueprint and that could not be done another way in blueprints?
wary wave
can you give me an example of something you might do in tick that can be done another way?
I mean the only alternative is using timers
....which use tick under the hood anyway.
grim ore
well yes using a timer or timeline is fine
cloud cobalt
Same thing really
grim ore
or event dispatchers, or not calling it on tick but whenever something updates, etc.
same thing but not the same thing
wary wave
event driven is not the same thing
grim ore
I update the score in my game every tick is incorrect, I update the score in my game whenever it changes is correct.
wary wave
yes
grim ore
yes
wary wave
because doing it on tick is stupid
grim ore
yes but it's something people do
wary wave
but scores aren't time sensitive
grim ore
I never said this was time sensitive I just asked a simple question lol
wary wave
I mean, if something isn't time sensitive, don't do it in a specifically time sensitive manner?
I'm not even sure how you'd go about updating scores on tick without a lot of faff
(unless your scores are time sensitive, which is different)
cloud cobalt
The point if, if you're going to animate a light or fade a menu or stuff like that that has time as a primary driver, Tick is the default
You might be able to use a timer too but it's the same at that point
If time, specifically the frame time, isn't relevant, then don't use tick
grim ore
come on guys I was not trying to argue semantics I literally was asking a simple question. What has to be done in BP using an event tick node
cloud cobalt
Everything that has delta time as a primary driver
cedar snow
on that video from matthew palaje linked further up: do you think he made the prototype levels in the regular UE4 CSG tools? i've seen the texture in some screenshots but wonder where it's in ue4...
cloud cobalt
^
grim ore
what is a simple example that needs tick then?
cloud cobalt
"The point if, if you're going to animate a light or fade a menu or stuff like that that has time as a primary driver, Tick is the default"
wary wave
the above example of fading a menu
cloud cobalt
Like I said
Everything animated
Everything dynamically interpolated
Your health bar that goes down smoothly -20% over one second
grim ore
if your doing a fading menu can you not use the animation system in UMG?
cloud cobalt
It's going to use tick
cloud cobalt
You might construct your code in a way that makes tick obvious or hidden
But the code is still going to run on tick
The entire engine runs on tick
Like, really
All events are sent as part of tick
So yes, we are arguing semantics here
Because it's a semantic question
But really the answer you want is : everything that has animation over time requires using tick
paper kernel
tho, it's rather contradicting when people say "don't use tick on BP" but everything works based on it
for people who don't understand gamethread yet
wary wave
well, you can disable tick on actors, and have them entirely event driven
cloud cobalt
Saying "don't use tick" is nonsense to start with. Don't use tick if you don't need to use tick, sure.
If you're doing timing logic and animation, use tick
Else use other event
wary wave
pretty much
cloud cobalt
Simple logic, really...
vale osprey
You could use other stuff without overhead of the tick
Like axis input event
It fires at zero input
paper kernel
I use looping timers 🙃
vale osprey
Hehe
paper kernel
🤔 I can't recall any BP tutorials that would do async execution
safe rose
This community. So trolly.
paper kernel
no u trolly
mint raptor
Why use Beginplay when you have tick?
Just use a Do Once
Bam Begin play is useless
get rid of it
safe rose
Anyway,not sure anyone even answered Matheww. But anything frame based is going to have to go on tick.
safe rose
He was being sarcastic
mint raptor
Was keeping in with the momentum of the chat lol
paper kernel
it's friday
mint raptor
tis friday
regal mulch
Interping something over time
Having a value increment over time (health regeneration)
safe rose
Well. I would probably use a timer for hp regen
pallid compass
goess on tick too
mint raptor
Just call an event on a delay that calls itself recursively
pallid compass
and timers use tick :p
paper kernel
technically any repeating event with deltatime can interp values
pallid compass
IF IT AINT TICK IT AINT RIGHT
safe rose
But like. I actually have a lot of stuff in my Event Tick related for inputs and movement for my character
Plenty of bools to keep the logic in check
pallid compass
i hide that shiz under the hood in c++ normally
i dont like blueprint for trick
tick*
jesus
vale osprey
I would argue that one should use physics sub-steps instead of tick 😄
pallid compass
oh?
vale osprey
As plenty of game logic can depend on delta time in non linear fashion
pallid compass
can u expand on that
vale osprey
Yeah, like processing inputs for example
Racing at 20fps vs 60fps
You will see gamestate less frequently at 20, but it doesn’t mean that inputs should be less frequent too
Then other things, like integrating position of the kinematic character
Having game loop update tied to frame rate is kind of horrible
pallid compass
So if u use physics sub step your updates are not happening on framerate?
vale osprey
So I’m not even touching on physics here. That one is just out of question
@pallid compass you have a separate delegate for those updates
So on tick you update purely render stuff
pallid compass
Ah right i must misunderstand what u said at the start
vale osprey
Some nodes, like interp (non constant), don’t even work correctly at variable FPS
safe rose
I think the point here was
vale osprey
And all kind of time based interpolations can change shape of the resulting function rather radically
safe rose
Some people don't know how to properly use Event Tick
pallid compass
So i have a lack of understanding on this stuff, just to clarify
pallid compass
we are talking about tick groups?
safe rose
Or SpawnActors
vale osprey
@pallid compass no, tick groups is a separate thing
pallid compass
Ah okay, well this is super interesting would u mind explaining it as if i was 12 in the head
vale osprey
There is good explanation by Olento pinned in #legacy-physics channel
Just so we don’t copy/paste wall of text here 😃
pallid compass
ah gotcha haha
grim ore
you have a side scroller and you want your character to play a "panic" animation when they are halfway over a ledge. Normal idle when on ground, panic animation when they are halfway over the ledge. Can you check for and do this without using Event Tick?
vale osprey
Technically you can but no real reason too
grim ore
I guess maybe use 2 colliders near the feet edges and if either are no longer overlapping but then you have to check if they are jumping lol but I guess you could use a collision event instead of just checking down every frame
distant finch
i might need help installing the android sdk
everytime i try it fails cause it cant rename a folder
pallid compass
Just make
Box's
on ledges
col for edge detection
if u wann save cpu doing line traces
u can also use it too sort o catch the char as wellt
too stop them flying off the edge right away
grim ore
yeah using colliders was the alternative I was thinking of. Might not be better but it's still an alternative.
pallid compass
prob ur best bet, but the only issue is it requires setup
which is a pain
UNLESS
expand the grid system in paper 2d
or expand ur floor system
vale osprey
@pallid compass
Another explanation that I like is imagining trajectory of the satellite around some ideal Planetoid. At infinite FPS it’s a perfect ellipsis. At realistic FPS it’s more like a collection of lines, but curve is somewhat maintained. At variable FPS it turns into a bit of mess, where some parts of trajectory will be long lines that don’t match curve at all. The point behind physics sub-step is to get almost the same delta time on each tick, this way your trajectory can stay as close to ideal curve as possible
safe rose
Also, I thought there was a node or something for being near edges
safe rose
Feels like I've seen it before while messing around with character movement
Since that near edge setting is editable
grim ore
yeah it was more a theoretical question. Still trying to find a concrete example of when you have to use Event Tick due to there being no other option available.
plush yew
hey is it possible to give feedback on the server? it seems like the job chat could use something like a @ when a role you have or something you do lets say your a mapper and you have the mapping role, you could get pinged and see oh whats this so you know its a specific thing where they are looked for this talent that you can do?
plush yew
holy shit im an idiot lmao
pallid compass
wth is a mapper
pallid compass
That fits under like 8 different things lmao :p
plush yew
yeah sorry thats a source modding term
hidden heart
level designer
regal mulch
Editing that won't remove the tag :D
pallid compass
also that would be annoying af lmao
getting pinged for roles
u can just check the job chat every day
Like as if u where actually looking for work irl
plush yew
yeah idk, i feel otherwise on it. on another hand it was also be a neat thing for when you had to specificly tag someone
pallid compass
also dont forget application's for things are normally very specific
so u would need to setup alot of shit
plush yew
like idk "hey @ Leveldesigner i need help with this and that"
pallid compass
but it be like
hey At Level designers, 2 years exp +, profolio, Royality accepting, World machine,
etc
It be a tag feast
pallid compass
Yeah dont take this the wrong way then you prob dont know much about games development
Its not a bag idea
plush yew
so its probbaly more chill there
plush yew
right
pallid compass
u could run ctrl + f in Looking for talent
and prob type in
Map
or level
and find everything instantly
if that would be any help to you?
vale osprey
@grim ore for example, I have a fake suspension on vehicle. On tick, I do a linetrace to calculate position of the wheel. Then calculated position is sent to AnimBp for animation
pallid compass
What is the overhead for splitting Logic our of your Pawn in to a component apart from the obvious extraUObject
vale osprey
As long as you use actor components and not scene components, overhead should be minimal
With plenty of scene components it becomes really expensive
pallid compass
I mean i know its minimal and obviously u have scale too look at, but i was just curious
Im developing a little mobile game on the side you see thats 2d to run on basically everything
and all Logical Systems and components that are self contained
So like
vale osprey
Do a simple test
pallid compass
TalentSystem Actor component
Progression System
Attribute System etc
vale osprey
Like you read something from component and set something back. Spawn 50 of them
pallid compass
So progression system handles exp and level etc, when you do a level up the Prog system says Hi talent system, hi attribute system give your self a Talent point and some attribute points
etc
Ah true
I know its bare bare minimal and prob not noticeable i was just curious
Its nice to build safe sustained systems like this because u can shift them to any project
When you know they wont break from something else breaking
vale osprey
Yeap, as long as it’s not a scene component 😄
pallid compass
I guess i was worrying over nothing really lmao, as im not use to working with so many
yeah haha scene components jesus
calcing the movement of everything in it on tick
I have like ugh
AttributeSystem, InventorySystem,ProgressionSystem,TalentSystem
which are very plug and play
then i have CombatSystem & 2dStateMachine system
all AC ofc
vale osprey
You can get even better performance if you turn it into kind of ECS
pallid compass
But its only attached to the man Player pawn
vale osprey
Or vectorize some of the calculations
vale osprey
Ahh, ok. Won’t be much of help then as it’s more for a large number of entities
grim ore
@vale osprey yeah that's kinda what I was thinking. Tracing for distance for anim bps or other physicish things might benefit from firing off event tick.
vale osprey
I’m not too sure where to fire them otherwise to be honest. You could “cheat” and fire it from some other event that happens every tick, but code readability goes down.
Technically, you could fire that calculation from Anim BP itself
grim ore
Can you? Lol ol I've never tried I always put data in it.
pallid compass
u said its 2d mathew, are u using 2dpaper or 3d for it?
vale osprey
You can save reference to owning pawn and call functions on it
grim ore
I never said 2d and it was just a generic question using a side scroller since it has platforms.
pallid compass
Ahh gotcha
I was gonna say if it was 2d stuff i could of gave u my scanning setup algorithm
I use it to scan 2d maps and check data and setup the map
grim ore
@vale osprey ah that makes sense. Have it call back and then do the trace and get the result rather than the other way.
pallid compass
So it would say "oh hi this is a corner, lets add a col box helper to handle edge hanging"
pallid compass
why is there not a note's detail panel
for everything
so u can leave design notes
Actually
I might add a Notes Catagory to UObjects for details Panel
So u can just leave notes on everything
frosty bloom
Isn't there a plugin or something for that? I swear I've seen something like that before in UE
pallid compass
I might just add it too uobjects, assuming i dont fry my whole engine
frosty bloom
Post in WIP if you succeed, might be interesting to see the result
pallid compass
well its just a Text slot really
if anything
thats expanded
in the details panel soo..
cant be that hard?
(i say before i slash the fuck out of my engine)
frosty bloom
Not sure, haven't tried it. Could be super easy or the straight opposite
frosty bloom
Make a backup before hand if you think it might injure you 😛
pallid compass
oh dw i break my engine on a daily basis
sudden agate
Guys:
I have a dynamic Light Source. Is there a possibility to have it cast Shadows set dependent on User Settings?
Slow PCs should have the ability to disable dynamic shadows from it.
Don't know how to start this mechanic.
pallid compass
u should be able to just turn dynamic shadows off?
sudden agate
only from these objects
sudden agate
It's a torch and the user can have multiple ones lying around
pallid compass
or level bp? > get all X > turn off dynamic shadows
bleak elk
its been terrible of late.
Why cant we separate games from making games.
I appreciate we can use offline mode.
But still...
Fortnight 🤢
sudden agate
@pallid compass I wonder if Configuration Files are suitable for this.
pallid compass
well what u normally do is
something like this
when ur game boots up and ur game mode checks for save files
You can have a custom struct called PlayerSettings
sudden agate
What about Changes at runtime?
pallid compass
and stick the info for that stuff in there
have item constructors run a function in the item called UpdateItemSettings
or w/e
have the constructor run it once
when during run time if things change
Get all Actors of type from X list
and call UpdateItemSettings
The list would be a class ref array of all classes that carry the update func
that should give u a base idea of where u can work from
u could also bind delgates too
sudden agate
Hm, If I have to iterate over every object anyway, why using config files?
pallid compass
well u need to save ur settings, so u can have a save struct for it
U could bind delgates too the func
instead of iterating over stuff
sudden agate
Thanks, I'll try that
Question: When a Variable is set to use a Config File (Config Variable in BP is ticked), when is it loaded?
My idea was to store a struct in GameInstance. When the User changes settings, it calls the Event Dispatcher
plush yew
Anyone else jerry rig everything? This is my pc setup right now 😂
wild glacier
stable orbit
Question, when making an equipment system, would you attach a ChildActorComponent to the player and simply change the ChildClass with the item you want to use?
stable orbit
Oh ok
little token
I asked this super early this morning but no one answered. Has anyone used a Xbox Kinect for animations before?
pallid compass
Yes why
little token
How is it? Is it worth getting a kinect to make animations?
pallid compass
Not unless your prepared for massive clean up
and willing to pay for software
and know wtf ur doing with retargeting
cedar snow
what kind of animations?
little token
I guess things like running, fighting, movements in general
stable orbit
I am not 100% sure, but you would need at least 3-4 to get good animations
little token
Oh...... Even for basic animations? I literally just started learning UE4 yesterday. I just wanted something that could give me smoother looking animations on a budget
The videos I saw they only used 1 Kinect amd it looked fine
cedar snow
i've used it with a bunch of playstation cameras, but unless you've got a lot of time to clean up the recorded animations it's not worth it
you need at least 1 kinect or 3-4 webcams
mint raptor
hey that is pretty cool
cedar snow
then there's a mocap suit from noitom, but that one's $1500
little token
I'll learn how to clean up things. It can't be that difficult. My friend may give me his Kinect
cedar snow
then i'd give it a try
though it will lose tracking e.g. of your arm, when it's not visible to the kinect
IMHO the most interesting budget tracking solutions are the ones based on the vive
stable orbit
@little token Now that I think about it 1 would be enough, you can just move it around and retarget the animations.
little token
I'm a poor college student. The most I would spend on this is 100, and that's after I learn more about UE4 and become more comfortable with it.
cedar snow
you can always get some cheap animations from the asset store or maybe have a look at the paragon assets
frosty bloom
You also have Mixamos website. Good place for free animations
frosty bloom
^
regal mulch
Even after 3+ years, I won't think about any form of asset (sound, texture, meshm etc.) before the game itself is coded to a state where it's fun and worth investing into
frosty bloom
There is a TON of free useful placeholder assets available, I would take the advice above. There is meshes, music and more out there.
pallid compass
@little token i believe the cheapest decent connect software is about £120
per peice
So face, body, hands
not including price of animation software etc
the only thing its decent for is face kinda
we use mo cap suits for everything else
silver crown
Noob question: in BP you can't downcast?
regal mulch
Example?
silver crown
UMyChild : UMyParent
I have a ref to a UMyParent object
I need to convert it to a UMyChild
Should be possible with the reflection system?
cursive dirge
re: ipisoft
they kinda failed their markets on going sub only
I was going to buy their perpetual license but they changed their licensing just when I was running trial
dawn linden
@silver crown Yeah just use a Cast To node
cursive dirge
didn't look back
also, I tried with 4 PS3 eyes
it wasn't perfect
a lot to clean after mocap session
cedar snow
same here
cursive dirge
it's amazing when you consider the hw cost (4x 10€ cameras) but you kinda get what you pay for
I bet kinect 2 cameras would give cleaner results
cedar snow
we had lots of problems with the lighting and popping joints during the rendering step
silver crown
@dawn linden Thanks I'm dumb, forgot the Blueprintable
cedar snow
sometimes it just stubbornly kept on dislocating elbows and knees
lot's of swearing and sighing involved
pallid compass
even full mocaps suits are not fully clean
not unless u end up spending like £15k +
we have like £2k kits that do an okay job
cursive dirge
yeah, but ipisofts results have weird twisted bones all over it
cedar snow
afaik 15k is nothing for professional mocap
cursive dirge
you'd need some middleware to reproject everything
cedar snow
even though i don't need it right now, i'am still super excited for the vive motion tracking solutions
cursive dirge
I still wait for someone to make this thing in open source: https://ikinema.com/orion
technically it shouldn't be that difficult
cedar snow
you just know where the joint is in world space
cursive dirge
considering we have free IK solvers and can interface vive sensors on all game engines
cedar snow
though i hate that fucking annual licence
cursive dirge
£400 annual is pretty much for basically only nice IK solver
but since there's nobody else selling similar set, they get away with it
cedar snow
well, at least it's not 3 months like ipisoft and reality capture
though they are cheapter
cursive dirge
3 months ipisoft is $165 tho
cedar snow
the latter is photogrammetry
cedar snow
but it's name is ambiguous in this context
cursive dirge
I hate subs
cedar snow
lol
cursive dirge
I have perpetual agisoft license too fortunately
it's just so bloody slow in comparison
cedar snow
yep
pallid compass
i really dislike animation
i feel like the tools and options we have
are just so crap
someone needs to bring some top tier stuff out
like when substance came out and made a huge difference
cedar snow
for animation vr could be a boon
pallid compass
Yeah ur right it could
cedar snow
there's also medium supporting animation now
cursive dirge
you can't edit there tho, just view
so it's more like a toy atm, but they'll get there eventually
cursive dirge
yeah, I could see how that could speed things up
being able to look around with depth perception
cedar snow
with the improved resolution of the vive pro, wireless and the tools supporting vr modes it could become very interesting
cursive dirge
I'd still want traditional modeling tools to get proper VR support
would be awesome to be able to even do hardsurface modeling in 3D
when you can properly see the model and easily look around it on all angles
I feel like zbrush could do that already for their zmodeler
cedar snow
also i'am pretty sure autodesk will love to sell all of us new versions of thir software
with vr support
i bet that somebody at the zbrush company already built basic vr support during a hackathon or something
stable orbit
From this list how can I turn Eye Adaption and Tone Mapper off while I play the game as well?
slow orbit
Not sure if this goes here or in #blueprint but I'm currently doing a Udemy course on UE4 with C++, but also want to study up on Blueprints. Can anyone reccomend any free resources for studying up and learning that?
After that, I'm gonna dip my feet into Unity and C#, but UE4 is my preferred engine over Unity. 😄
restive eagle
play animation node resets morph targets to their default value, is there a workaround for that instead moving all the animations to animbp?
stable orbit
@slow orbit Have you used any of the engines before?
livid haven
@slow orbit Plenty of tutorials you can follow along with from Epic on the Unreal Engine YouTube channel.
On blueprints specifically.
Just enough to get your legs under you.
restive eagle
ok if anyone encounters my problem, solution would be to use this
http://prntscr.com/j4wyfx
worn granite
yeah you'll get to grips with how vis scripting works if you start on epic's tuts.
pallid compass
@slow orbit go to bed every night reading ue4 wiki, blueprint doc on nodes and wiki examples
keen parcel
is there a way to clean up a project prior to packaging? like removing any redundant assets etc?
(automatically)
pallid compass
Not really
Thats normally up to the user
U shouldnt really bring in what you dont use
and u should keep cleaning every day really
its like a house
if u leave it till the end of the year
you are fucked
keen parcel
sure, but there really are not any asset management tools inside UE4 and i need to be able to try assets in-place
worn granite
You could try migrating to a fresh project all your final maps
pallid compass
what
Yes there is
The Asset manager?
asset auditor
Reference viewer
Validation checker
etc
slow orbit
@stable orbit I worked with a team of 3 others to make a visual novel for a class in Unity 2017 and have been working at my internship in Unreal, but I don't use BP that much in my work
worn granite
the migrate tool shouldn't take over anything that isn't referenced.
keen parcel
You could try migrating to a fresh project all your final maps <--- can this work on a per level basis instead of project? that could work well
slow orbit
@livid haven Thanks! I'm definitely gonna tkae an hour to do one off the official UE channel. I hear Zak Parrish is a popular teacher choice. 😄
worn granite
Just select all of your maps you wanna take, then migrate.
slow orbit
@pallid compass That definitely soudns usefl. Maybe I should write them in a notebook? However, I will say I learn more by hands-on experience
worn granite
I did this once to submit a reproducible bug for epic.
keen parcel
i usually load a lot of assets into a project to try out what works, a prop from one pack, another prop from another etc.
silver crown
@keen parcel is there a way to clean up a project prior to packaging? like removing any redundant assets etc? Not possible because you can ref an asset by a string, and the editor can't detect those refs
pallid compass
well learned then i guess
Get cleaning fam
use Reference viewer
to check things for links
also im pretty sure if ur not using c++ u cant use the asset manager
keen parcel
yea.. i was reading about that earlier, how UE4 came from UTK which has no asset management, so UE4 went the other way or something
pallid compass
due to things having to be Data assets
gleaming shore
Does anyone know of any guides or resources I can read on remote updates (my game checking for a new version and downloading the .pak file)
livid haven
@silver crown While true, it means that you should be referencing things in a way that the system can detect (or you should be reporting it).
@keen parcel UTK? You mean UDK? UDK was UE3.
elfin stream
Incremental Patching. There are some tutorials out there for HTML pak streaming I think, and also a few people have developed patchers.
@gleaming shore
livid haven
UE3 sans actual source code access, available for free = UDK pretty much
gleaming shore
@elfin stream Ah, thank you. I will look into it
keen parcel
yes excuse my typo
elfin stream
burn the bad typer!
stable orbit
@slow orbit Oh ok, Its just that I thought you wanted to start using UE and Unity at the same time.
keen parcel
this is quite painful in terms of asset management, i understand why it's needed and i am meticulous but still.. this is really not that manageable
elfin stream
@keen parcel There is a reason major studios have people whos only job is to manage the pipeline and assets.
Because everyone else makes a mess and doesnt have time for it lol
elfin stream
You could always extend the editor and make a plugin that will search for unused assets and remove them
pallid compass
Its not bad as long as u whip good convention in too people
elfin stream
prolly make some good money on the market.
worn granite
There might be such a tool already
keen parcel
perhaps an 'outside of ue4' solution... kinda like an asset viewer
pallid compass
u cant really place it outside
keen parcel
i just find the whole process of checking out assets too slow
elfin stream
Dunno about that, youd have top be reading into the binaries.
gleaming shore
I would definitely use that plugin, ive been having to deal with migrating stuff to new projects
pallid compass
because u cant really read bp's
keen parcel
hypothetical suggestion
pallid compass
This is why its great habbit to use data assets for you know, assets 😂
shame there not non c++ user friendly
keen parcel
but yea.. i need look through thousands of assets so i've started building really big projects with all of them bundled together to speed up browsing
pallid compass
wtf jesus 1000s?
keen parcel
so generic projects like 'external building props' for instance
but i'd prefer a quicker system that relies on tagging instead of categories
yes probably 10,000
pallid compass
Validation System + ref viewer + gameplay tags
Validate if its being used by interfacing the ref viewer, and apply relative tag too item slot, if u expand UObject to hold State FGameplayTag
ez
worn granite
wat
keen parcel
sure, cook that up for me and i'll do your laundry for a month
worn granite
watr ya doin
keen parcel
jus; collectin'
keen parcel
asset browser.. could be as simple as thumbnail generation of each material, bp, mesh etc. with a tagging system
ajax search
pallid compass
i actually dont think it be too hard to make
keen parcel
i think i've personally funded at least 1 'EPIC' dev for 6 months 😃
worn granite
It'd be a really cool tool if it were external
And you could run it, specify the source projects/locations, and then multiple select things to migrate into a specific output project
keen parcel
exactly
that's as simple as it can be and needs to be
a list of source folders
toggle the assets needed.. add tags to all selected items etc.
add to external project
slow orbit
@stable orbit Ideally I'd like to learn the toolsets of both Unreal and Unity, but right now I just have some working knowledge and both. Always ncie to be well-rounded 😄
But taking it one thing at a time - no sense in flip-flopping
worn granite
@keen parcel Pitched it to a guy I know that's looking to build a portfolio.
will let you know if he starts on it
keen parcel
thanks.. tell him i can help with the scope, UI design, website, marketing etc.
@silver crown can vouch for that 😉
(just launched https://youtu.be/LhRQbaGJ8bI )
keen parcel
yea, UI design, website, marketing
worn granite
ah
keen parcel
video etc. etc. etc.
worn granite
I was about to say
That's the difference between him being lukewarm to it (current) and taking the job :P
elfin stream
Hah
gleaming shore
Has anyone tried to use the launchpad launcher for ue4? The .exe for me just wont open and leaves no logs 😦
elfin stream
Thats good stuff, I remember talking to the deva bout the plugin while he was working on it, looks really awesome.
silver crown
😃
storm venture
hey could i get some advice? i was wondering where i should do the programming for my various weapons.
i have multiple "heroes" that use "hero specific" weapons, they all inherit from a "base hero"
im wondering, i could program each weapon as a separate actor and pass the "Attack Pressed" and "Attack Released" inputs into the actor, but idk
elfin stream
Yeah
You want to split it up, dont put that stuff on the hero, let the weapon do the work so that you arnt fighting hard coding on the hero class. Then you can easily swap weapons on the hero with very different behaviors. Either have the class inherit a base function like "activate" or "attack" or use an interface.
For instance my system, I have an equiment interface that has an activate function that takes in an AActor as a parameter. I then have a combat interface on the Actor to handle combat things. So when I activate the weapon, if its a melee weapon it asks the actor to do a melee sweep via the combat interface.
This means I could have wildly different heriarchy and classes or totally different functionality between the two and I dont need to worry about inheritence or casting etc.
So if I want the character holding a lantern, the same command of activate can turn the light on, or if its a weapon it will perform the attack.
storm venture
very nice, i like how that sounds
i dont fully understand interfaces yet, should i research into those or would a Base class with a Child for each weapon suffice?
to rephrase, i understand interfaces but just have never implemented one into ue4
livid haven
@keen parcel What don't you have with the existing tools?
You can add asset registry tags however you want and search by them.
Key-value pairs
And you can use collections.
elfin stream
@storm venture You should learn interfaces for sure, even if you dont use them for this exact case its a really important tool. That and delegates.
storm venture
Sounds like a plan, thanks! 😄
keen parcel
@livid haven i can't quickly bulk tag assets, ajax-style search tags and quickly preview the asset without loading into the editor
it's the time it takes basically (even with SSD)
livid haven
Well, you're not going to get around the engine startup time, but you can potentially get around a lot of the editor startup time.
You could make a commandlet to do the work, which would only startup some of the editor, minimally, in order to be able to execute.
And if you really wanted, you could make a non-game UE4 Slate application to do it.
keen parcel
amazing! yes that's a great idea
livid haven
If you make it a commandlet, you can write whatever logic you want to add/remove registry tags or search by registry tags and do arbitrary operations.
And then you could setup automation of some sort to execute said commandlet.
You can do a lot with assets programmatically.
At one point, when I was replacing the way we did our skill trees in Fortnite, I made a commandlet that would find every existing blueprint version of a UMG class, open the blueprint class up, read a bunch of data off the widgets, create a new UMG blueprint of a new class, and create widgets in said blueprint of another new widget class, and port data from the old widgets of the old class in the old blueprints.
I've also done "surgery" where I added a new property to a class that has hundreds (maybe thousands?) of blueprint subclasses, then intelligently populated said new properties based on conditions of various older properties, resaved all of said assets, and checked in.
gleaming shore
I just noticed, the FN in your name is Fortnite. Nice job!
livid haven
Well, after deleting said old properties, building again, and doing one last batch-save to get rid of the useless data that's been saved but doesn't correspond to any actual properties anymore.
Thanks.
Actually becoming an employee, rather than a contractor, this Monday. 😃
slow orbit
@livid haven If you know Billy, tell him I said hi. 😃
gleaming shore
That's awesome, good luck!
keen parcel
great solution and congrats!
livid haven
Bramer? Yeah. I'm not in the office, but I can forward a hello over Slack.
slow orbit
Well, er, Kelby
livid haven
Oh. I don't know a Kelby.
slow orbit
Yeah, I had a nice chat with him over Twitter and applied to his alma mater
No -- i'm kelby.
Haha, sorry!!
livid haven
Oh, okay.
Hah, yeah, I can forward that.
I think Bramer actually worked at the studio that I worked at that got me working with Epic in the first place.
worn granite
Nice Sion!
slow orbit
Yeah, he's a FIEA alumni and I'm waiting to hear back for admittance into the program. I feel good about my app, and recall he gave me some great wisdom on it and the industry as a whole.
He's a swell guy 😄
livid haven
I've not had a ton of interactions with him, but he's stood out as being a particularly approachable and friendly person, for sure.
storm venture
@elfin stream hey sorry to bother but before i begin with the interfaces and actor based weapons, i just want to make sure, networking shouldnt be problem with this method, right?
livid haven
@keen parcel Definitely give the commandlet stuff a try.
storm venture
forgot to mention this is multiplayer
livid haven
Your best bet is to try to not load the assets. That's always going to murder your iteration times.
slow orbit
So, friends -- I'm gonna do a BP tutorial tonight. Maybe a live tutorial? Any Greatest Hits I should check out?
😃
I know it's a common question that's entirely subjective, but gosh, there are so many!
livid haven
When we worked on the localization system, we used to open up every asset to search it for FText properties, but that was MURDER on how long it took. We eventually changed it so that, on-save, we would gather all the localizable text from the asset and save it in to the file's "header" so that the we could simply brute force open up the file header and know what we need and if we need it at all, rather than loading up thousands of assets.
slow orbit
@worn granite Follow one! but maybe I'll make one one day 😄
Sorry, I should've been a little more clear.
livid haven
So... expect your iteration time on whatever batch operation you're doing to be time-expensive if you're actually having to open up assets - there's no getting around that. Just like there's no getting around loading up the engine itself in order to open an asset and have the data make any sense without reinventing like a quarter of the engine's code.
worn granite
Nothing as a recommendation comes to mind neo
keen parcel
@livid haven i might just start keeping thumbs of everything in the asset folders
actually, the editor makes thumbs.. can these be scripted to be output to the root project folder?
livid haven
"thumbs"?
mint umbra
How can I debug a landscape's material mask? The material's mask is being applied correctly by color, but it's not removing the grass on the masked area. Any suggestions? I'm very stuck and would love some help, possibly DM me?
keen parcel
thumbnails
livid haven
Gotcha
I mean, surely there is a way, but probably not out-of-the-box.
You'll have to look at how/where thumbnails are stored and actually take that data and write it to disk yourself. At least, I strongly suspect you will.
You could maybe leverage some kind of screenshot code to do the conversion and writing for you, but you'll still have to go find the thumbnail data.
Using VAX, it should be relatively trivial to find and figure out what you need.
keen parcel
the editor is already generating a thumbnail for the assets and project.. so it's in there already.. just need to create 1 additional jpg called preview.jpg and then it would be visible via the OS folder previews
livid haven
That looks promising.
keen parcel
i think the answer to this is beyond my abilities unfortunately, but it looks potentially do-able
livid haven
Yeah, you don't need to explicitly render it, you do just want to get whatever the stored thumbnail is.
If you're confident in your C++ abilities, it shouldn't be hard to find out where it's saved.
keen parcel
short answer.. no cpp skills here
but i'd be willing to pay someone or collab with another dev to offer the solution on the marketplace
maybe extend the UE marketplace to support game dev mini-contracts like peopleperhour
livid haven
There is a channel where you could try to do that, #looking-for-talent. Worth considering.
pallid compass
trying to learn to make dungeon gen algo
brains falling out already
livid haven
Lots of resources on that kind of thing at least, even within UE4.
Proc gen's been so huge for the better part of a decade now, fortunately. Lots of experimentation.
slow orbit
Ooh, something like the Persona games, @pallid compass ?
pallid compass
just small dungeon generated
Decided to go for room creation and placement with corridor linking instead of a tunneling one
just trying to wrap my head around it
frank escarp
@pallid compass can you do pathfinding?
with pathfinding, you get a solution to corridors
one of the typical nethack style dungeon generation, is to just plop some random rooms, and then carve a path from one to other with pathfinding
if paths are too straight, you just need to make each tile have a random cost
and that way your paths now meander
if you want a tightly packed dungeon, a BSP algorithm is a great choice
rocky kayak
what algorithm would i write if i want to move an actor's offset by exactly 50 units in any 360 angle? been fumbling about with sine and distance formulas and its all just getting jumbled in my head >:|
mint umbra
Hey, does anyone see anything wrong with this logic? It's not removing grass accurately from the mask.
Could it simply be mask-related? It's using the mask compression and is sampling as masked.
livid haven
@rocky kayak You don't want to do any trig at all, actually.
Ask around here for a primer on 3D math, you really, really need it to do stuff like that. It's fundamental to gameplay programming. Even for a 2D game, you don't want to be doing trigonometry.
What you want is NewLocation = OldLocation + DirectionVector * Distance
Where DirectionVector is a normalized vector. Which means it has a length of 1.
How you calculate DirectionVector would also involve more 3D math (linear algebra) that you'll need to understand.
Not so much how to do the actual operations, but what they operations result in.
Not telling you to effectively go learn how to do long division, but telling you to learn what division does, so you know when to use it in your calculator.
I don't have any resources on learning 3D math on me, but surely someone here could give a handy primer of sorts?
rocky kayak
Yeah I actually calculated the DirectionVector that I wanted on my own pretty easily, that part was simple. Just putting it all together in Blueprints seems to be the tricky part .
vapid lynx
Hoping someone can give some advice here. I'm self learning game development, taking a look at the Unity engine at the moment and have noticed i would need to use 3rd party programs such as Blender to create meshes and rigging etc, perhaps even Photoshop for unwrapped textures. Would i have to use 3rd party programs with the Unreal Engine, or could i pretty much do mostly everything with it ?
proven tree
it's the same as with unity
vapid lynx
i dont think so, you can't animate with Unity.
livid haven
It's the same story.
You don't model or animate in UE4.
You control animations, sure. But you don't actually animate in UE4.
That's not to say you couldn't try to use blueprints or C++ code to programmatically create or control a skeletal mesh and do an animation.
snow crown
Unreal and Unity are game engines... software toolkits to create video games
livid haven
Or even do some extremely limited "animation" in the editor.
snow crown
3d modelling is used in other fields, so they have their own tools that the engines can import
vapid lynx
hmmm
snow crown
just as you don't really write code in unreal or unity (you would use something like visual studio), you can't really do 3d modelling in them (you would use something like blender or max)
but, the engines themselves bring those pieces together to create a game
vapid lynx
i see, so i cannot create mesh in UE4, i would still have to import ?
livid haven
You technically can, but we're talking very, very technically.
So, practically, no. You should be using 3rd party Content Creation Tools to create meshes, animations, textures, etc.
vapid lynx
I'm not sure if you know much about Unity, but does either one offer more flexibility ? (i know there are a whole bunch of other engines out there).
livid haven
I don't think you'll ever find more flexibility than having source code access, like you get with UE4 (which has a deferred, percentage-based royalty).
Or with an expensive upfront cost to license Unity with source code access.
Those 3rd party Content Creation Tools are specialized, well-established, maintained and supported, industry standards.
Any game engine toolset trying to actually do everything those tools do is reinventing a wheel that's already got half a dozen major, well-trusted manufacturers.
vapid lynx
Ok, i understand better now thanks. I wasn't sure if there was "one ultimate game engine" that done everything. But it makes sense that you have to utilise other tools.
safe rose
GameMaker Studio 2 is another great engine
vapid lynx
Yea, that one has less emphasis on coding right ?
snow crown
there isn't an all-in-one toolkit for making games
if one exists, it's usually very bad in certain areas
snow crown
basically, different companies make different tools
snow crown
they specialize in those tools, so they tools are usually better than anyone who doesn't specialize
vapid lynx
Ok, well at the moment i like the Unity/Blender combination.
safe rose
Good luck with them
vapid lynx
But are there some game engine that are better for certain genres ?
Would X engine be better for top down strategy games than Y engine, is that something i should read up on ?
rustic panther
RPGmaker
snow crown
whether or not an engine is good for certain games is up to the person or team working on things
there is no "make game" button for any game engine
there are some tools that can help you achieve your goal
some engines have better tools for certain things
but in the end, the engine doesn't hold you back... that's all on you to create the game you are trying to make
rustic panther
heard RPGMaker is great for third person fps games
rustic panther
vapid lynx
i've noticed the types of games made with unity differ from the types of games made with UE4
safe rose
That's a lie if I've ever heard of one, pertaining to the Great Game Engine Debate
rustic panther
escape from tarkov was made with unity
livid haven
@vapid lynx Sure, they're kind of geared towards slightly different things, but there's plenty of overlap.
UE4 is certainly more geared towards highend graphics.
snow crown
Unreal also has a lot of AAA and highly funded development teams working on projects with it
livid haven
You're going to have to do some work to try to ship a lightweight, simple 2D game with UE4 on mobile.
snow crown
which means Unreal has a lot of good tools to cater to that development community
whereas Unity has a lot of lower funded light weight teams
that produce much smaller games
but that doesn't mean Unreal is incapable of doing the things that Unity is or vice versa
vapid lynx
hmm
snow crown
they just have different tools that are more mature since the community puts different emphasis on different parts
AAA developers don't really care about 2d stuff
so Paper2d lacks compared to Unity
Unity developers don't put a ton of emphasis on multiplayer, so it's networking code lacks compared to Unreal
livid haven
Yeah. Using UE4 for a truly 2D game is kind of overkill. That's a lot of weight behind something simple.
snow crown
but that doesn't mean you can't do either on the engines
you can make a 2d game in unreal and you can make a kickass multiplayer game in unity
examples of both have shipped
livid haven
UE4's heritage is 3D first person/third person shooters. It has a lot of things out of the box that cater to that kind of thing.
snow crown
unity also started as a 3d first person focused engine
but the community flocked to it's 2d aspects so they got a ton of dev time
livid haven
Did it? Huh. I thought it was honestly a general purpose game engine targeted towards being accessible for indie developers.
snow crown
like, 2/3rds of Unity 3's releases catered to 2d stuff
grim ore
If you want the one true engine you should learn Cryengine.
silver crown
Godot ftw
snow crown
if i remember correctly, their only example was a first person game
livid haven
Where as Unreal Engine was much more geared towards big enterprise stuff - big teams, big budgets, well-funded corporations.
snow crown
yeah
vapid lynx
As a beginner, i dont really want to delve into CryENGINE
livid haven
I think he was being sarcastic about CryEngine.
grim ore
Cryengine is love. Cryengine is life.
livid haven
😛
snow crown
Unity and Unreal are very good engines and picking either can't do you wrong. Fuck cryengine
livid haven
Whatever values CryEngine has inherently, CryTek is floundering and I wouldn't want to end up working with an engine that can't afford to pay it's engineers to maintain it.
snow crown
for real though, Amazon is doing some interesting things with lumberyard, but I can't help but imagine that if AGS had started from scratch with their own engine they might have something more appealing
vapid lynx
You guys have given me some insight, thank you. I think the best approach for me is maybe to make a mini game on both Unity and UE4 then afterwards see what one i find more flexible to use.
livid haven
Who knows when you'll end up shit out of luck with no engine support at all? Now that expensive engine you licensed is yours to maintain and you probably don't have the staff with the necessary knowledge and expertise to do it.
grim ore
might be easiest to just use webgl right in the browser, always fun to learn that 😃
snow crown
you'll learn a ton no matter which engine you pick
no, dont do that
just pick an engine 😛
grim ore
wait.. yeah he said engine, scratch that.
snow crown
or better yet, pick an engine with a better supporting community
grim ore
oh, then unity for sure.
snow crown
like cough us cough
vapid lynx
4Head well a good community is beneficial SeemsGood
frosty bloom
Why all this sugar coating? Pick UnrealEngine. UnrealEngine FTW. Case solved 😎
rustic panther
I think the community and what the company making the engine focuses on is most important
snow crown
ooh, i get to learn how to use the new bot to infract @grim ore for that statement 😛
grim ore
The Dickhead to helpful ratio is higher in the UE community compared to Unity in my experience but I think it's just due to the size difference
obsidian nimbus
use the newest engine,. it must be the best
snow crown
i was making a joke
grim ore
nah not aimed at you Roy, just a general observation
livid haven
The Dickhead to helpful ratio is higher in the UE community I honestly can't confidently agree or disagree.
It's certainly a higher ratio than I wish it were. And I do think it's probably more to do with there being more technical competency required for Unreal, which... well, leads to a lot of arrogance and elitism.
grim ore
Spend a day in here in the morning and spend a day in the GDL unity chat and it's a noticeable difference when someone walks in and pops a question =/
and I was thinking the same thing, it seems to come off more "I know better than you" in here
livid haven
GDL Unreal chat is way smaller but also generally hosts much much much simpler and/or naive (?) questions.
Usually not much I can answer that everyone else can't.
I really do think it comes down to technical competency though. I've said it before, but it's easy to be arrogant and full of yourself as a programmer - you're doing something very technical and it's hard to see your faults until you've learned to do better, at which point... you've gotten past those faults.
Artists live a life of Imposter Syndrome. Programmers live a life of Dunning-Kruger Effect.
obsidian nimbus
its elves and dwarves
grim ore
so if I understand you right my only fault is I am better than everyone else? I agree with that 🤣
obsidian nimbus
those things dont mix
frosty bloom
@rustic panther Technical Artist 😄
livid haven
They figure their shit out! 😄 (Was originally going to go to school for art instead of programming, had to decide)
rustic panther
exactly!
livid haven
And, y'know, cultural factors. I dislike the trope or stereotype of programmers being socially incompetent nerds and adding in the gamer tropes/stereotypes? Eesh. That's a lot of stigma.
obsidian nimbus
@grim ore bet i can find u say something wrong in one of ur tuts 😛
livid haven
But. There are tiny bits of truth in there scattered about.
rustic panther
yeah, artists AND programmers are socially awkward
livid haven
Okay, true. But there's more of a stereotype against programmers being, literally, autistic, than there is for artists.
obsidian nimbus
artists use drugs and cut of their own ear and stuff
cursive dirge
why GDL tho
livid haven
Why GDL what?
cursive dirge
in comparison
obsidian nimbus
they be sleeping in paint fumes
rustic panther
whats GDL
livid haven
Yeah, but I imagine most people in this conversation aren't in a Unity specific Discord.
rustic panther
I am
livid haven
But being in a general Game Dev discord that has a Unity channel and an Unreal channel, that's more likely.
Sure. I didn't say no one, just said most.
cursive dirge
I'm not a fan of splitting engine specific discussions to multiple places
grim ore
I didn't even know there was a Unity discord so go figure
rustic panther
can I link it here
livid haven
I don't think anyone would mind? 🤷
Like, drive-by linking a random Discord server is one thing.
That's unwelcome because it's basically spam.
Linking a relevant Discord server to a discussion isn't spam or annoying self-advertising or anything like that. But I am not a mod.
obsidian nimbus
hmm this model isnt right, im gunna put more polygons in my ass
livid haven
@obsidian nimbus ... yeah?
snow crown
just no discord links
love you all, but straight ban on them unless you pre-approve it with a mod
rustic panther
👍
rustic panther
cursive dirge
there's a unity slack group that is big too :p
livid haven
And this is why "I am not a <thing>" is a wonderful disclaimer. 😛
It's a shame that usually it's I Am Not A Lawyer, which is... IANAL.
rustic panther
IANAT
livid haven
Not hard to find said Discord server on your own, in any case. Link isn't that critical.
devout gulch
quiet harness
does anyone know if it is possible to get reward ads in my game without plugins that cost 100 bucks
rustic panther
you get rewarded with ads?
quiet harness
Yeah
I want a "CONTINUE (AD)" button for when you die
I don't want to put in a banner ad or timed interstitial ads because I know how it feels to be the player in that case, you just wanna play and not have to worry about downloading a hentai game by accident
rustic panther
instead of a random ad, why not put a screen up that goes away in 5 seconds that links to buy the app
rustic panther
I like that idea better imo
quiet harness
I was thinking more of like, a video that rewards you when it is over, but idk
rustic panther
so your app is like a full game demo with a bit of a buy me thing
quiet harness
no
rustic panther
ya I know what you meant, but I just think ads are lame
rustic panther
you can have a "paid version" right
quiet harness
It's more of a bored project that I want to monetize
I'm gonna release a free version with ads and if the reviews are good I'll charge like 50 cents for it or something
rustic panther
pay to unlock the version without this annoying popup that tells you ot pay for the unlocked version
quiet harness
idk how to do IAP xD
that is the first "xD" Ive done in a LONG TIME
you'll have to see the game to know what exactly I wantr
rustic panther
xD
quiet harness
It's a small simple game, kinda like a ketchapp game
quiet harness
it's a game company that makes fun little arcade mobile games
they are all free
and unlocked
fierce tulip
https://twitter.com/___discovery/status/984813974632923136
https://www.blaenkdenum.com/notes/unreal-engine/
quiet harness
My game is super simple, literally just catching chickens and gold to buy more chickens to catch that give you boosts
fervent pendant
Why unreal import two object with the same exact scale differently? One of my object is gigantic literally i needed 3 monitor to look at it event zoom wasn't good enough and the other is good size O.O