#ue4-general | Unreal Source | Page 88

unborn matrix Jul 22, 2017, 8:44 PM

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mod + mod + mod + mod + mod + new engine and remake? =?= game?

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look at DayZ

cursive dirge Jul 22, 2017, 8:45 PM

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of course many popular mods get turned into games

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that's not the point here though

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 8:47 PM

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Does anyone know how to buy an unreal marketplace item with paypal balance without adding a card?

unborn matrix Jul 22, 2017, 8:48 PM

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@tawny brook have you tried checking the retailers website to see if they have a version?

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you could email them

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 8:49 PM

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..

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That seems like way to much work for something that should be allowed directly in the market place

unborn matrix Jul 22, 2017, 8:50 PM

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I know its not ideal, but I know of no way from the marketplace ;c

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 8:50 PM

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And I'd prefer to buy it from unreal marketplace so the unreal staff has control.. if I buy it from a retailers marketplace... then they could stop giving me it, or etc

cursive dirge Jul 22, 2017, 8:51 PM

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talking of lot of work, try finding ue4 marketplace buyers terms

keen birch Jul 22, 2017, 8:51 PM

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Afaik Paypal just isn't very keen on letting you pay for stuff without linked card

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 8:51 PM

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I have a verified paypal that's like a decade old

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with a bank acc attached

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And on top of that, my paypal has had thousands of dollars worth of transactions

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Like thousands..

frank glen Jul 22, 2017, 8:52 PM

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yo, how can I choose what level should showup on a game startup?

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 8:52 PM

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Project settings

keen birch Jul 22, 2017, 8:53 PM

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@frank glen Project Settings -> Maps/Modes

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Default levels

frank glen Jul 22, 2017, 8:53 PM

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ty ❤

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 8:56 PM

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And here to thought I'd use some money on the unreal marketplace ;/

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ugh

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:/

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:00 PM

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Someone help me with projectiles?

spice urchin Jul 22, 2017, 9:01 PM

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@pale remnant sure what's up?

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:01 PM

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So

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ill show you what i have so far

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Ball go to the blueprint chat

plush yew Jul 22, 2017, 9:05 PM

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Dudes

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This is no joke

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Can you ue4 on intel HD 4000?

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 9:06 PM

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Maybe with 3 fps

frank glen Jul 22, 2017, 9:06 PM

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xd

plush yew Jul 22, 2017, 9:06 PM

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Nah, i get 5 fps on GT 8600

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And this is supposed to be at least 2x as fast

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 9:07 PM

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wow

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my gpu is +1,965% faster 😄

plush yew Jul 22, 2017, 9:07 PM

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Nearly 20x?

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 9:07 PM

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Yes lol

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http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB-vs-Intel-HD-4000-Mobile-125-GHz/3639vsm7653

plush yew Jul 22, 2017, 9:07 PM

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Is that GV100x8? Thats no GPU

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 9:07 PM

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?

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intel hd 4000 is the onboard intel graphics

cursive dirge Jul 22, 2017, 9:08 PM

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https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/how-disc-jam-reached-60-fps-on-intel-processor-graphics-using-unreal-engine-4

plush yew Jul 22, 2017, 9:08 PM

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@tawny brook GV100 is unable to display

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 9:08 PM

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?

plush yew Jul 22, 2017, 9:10 PM

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@tawny brook exactly what i said

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 9:10 PM

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alex

frank glen Jul 22, 2017, 9:10 PM

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@plush yew what are u talking about XD

plush yew Jul 22, 2017, 9:11 PM

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Stop overestimating

verbal prairie Jul 22, 2017, 9:11 PM

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I have a weird error...
My cpp gives an error on UStaticMeshComponent (I use it as a param of a function) while my declaration in my .h file is all just fine and in inclde my h file in the cpp file...

tawny brook Jul 22, 2017, 9:11 PM

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?

plush yew Jul 22, 2017, 9:11 PM

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@frank glen GV100 from nvidia

frank glen Jul 22, 2017, 9:11 PM

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^ ButtHurt

topaz kettle Jul 22, 2017, 9:11 PM

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where do i ask about learn tab content?

plush yew Jul 22, 2017, 9:11 PM

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@cursive dirge thanks

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@cursive dirge does it apply to edit?

cursive dirge Jul 22, 2017, 9:12 PM

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yes

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but

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nowadays you can just use forward shading too

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it's not as fast as mobile preview

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but it's faster than deferred

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just don't put MSAA on

bleak copper Jul 22, 2017, 9:24 PM

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Is forward shading (or I guess lighting and occlusion performance) that good these days?

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I mean, the whole point of deferred is to be faster, at the expense of VRAM and antialiasing.

cloud cobalt Jul 22, 2017, 9:26 PM

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Depends wildly on the scene

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And hardware

floral heart Jul 22, 2017, 9:26 PM

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Deferred was always a slower way to render that made many lights more efficient.

bleak copper Jul 22, 2017, 9:26 PM

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Yeah the scene would definitely vary. I'd assume you could make a degenerate case... but yeah.

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:26 PM

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Does anyone know where I could find a good ak47 bullet model?

floral heart Jul 22, 2017, 9:27 PM

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Considering the number of games that still have only a handful of primary scene lights, UE4's choice of deferred might have been premature.
Or many games are just squandering UE4's opportunities. 😄

cloud cobalt Jul 22, 2017, 9:27 PM

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@pale remnant Seems a bit specific, why not just use any bullet ?

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:28 PM

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Hmmmm I suppose

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just wanna get a realistic feel

cloud cobalt Jul 22, 2017, 9:29 PM

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Model it then

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:29 PM

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im shit

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Screw it I'm just gonna make my ak shoot dildos

cloud cobalt Jul 22, 2017, 9:29 PM

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You're not getting a realistic game working by not putting some efforts in it

floral heart Jul 22, 2017, 9:29 PM

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Take a bullet model, stretch it to ak47 length, recolor texture to match google results. Done.

cloud cobalt Jul 22, 2017, 9:30 PM

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There is no content pack for every kind of game, ready to go

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Content packs are like 10% of your game

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:30 PM

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yee

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Some of the gun models are so realistic. Wonder how many hours someone put into them scares me

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while im just sitting here with my crappy ak http://prntscr.com/fz0zju

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cloud cobalt Jul 22, 2017, 9:32 PM

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Yeah, modelling weapons and characters etc is the hardest thing there is, basically

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Not sure why every indie wants to do that ¯_(ツ)_/¯

floral heart Jul 22, 2017, 9:33 PM

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Lots of indie games without weapons or characters. Pretty much all neon chic.

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:33 PM

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But If you make a super realistic gun model you'll get dat money

cloud cobalt Jul 22, 2017, 9:34 PM

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Speaking of neon I just fucked up a post process

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📎 image.png

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:34 PM

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wow

floral heart Jul 22, 2017, 9:34 PM

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"I just fucked up a post process" is the technical artists' "I made a thing".

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:34 PM

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did you mean to do that

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Id play that game

cloud cobalt Jul 22, 2017, 9:35 PM

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I did not

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:35 PM

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looks like a crazy csgo surf map

cloud cobalt Jul 22, 2017, 9:36 PM

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For the record that's basically the depth mapped to a sine wave

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:37 PM

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didn't no mans sky only have like 10 developers?

keen birch Jul 22, 2017, 9:38 PM

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@cloud cobalt "Content packs are like 10% of your game"

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That a challenge?

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@pale remnant Eight

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Initially three

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:39 PM

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How did they manage to make a triple a with only 8 people

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I thought you need like 100 plus

keen birch Jul 22, 2017, 9:39 PM

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Lots of patience, lots of skill

floral heart Jul 22, 2017, 9:40 PM

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Didn't fit everyone's definition of triple A.

keen birch Jul 22, 2017, 9:40 PM

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And mainly, shittons of dedication

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^

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I suppose that that's a convo for #lounge though

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 9:43 PM

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Um. Is it me or we could not attach files anymore on Answers?

floral heart Jul 22, 2017, 9:43 PM

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How they got triple A levels of hype, now that's the info we could really use.

keen birch Jul 22, 2017, 9:43 PM

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@floral heart Sony

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They were literally just shoved onto the stage schedule a day before the convention where they revealed

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Because Sony needed someone

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And they put together a cool trailer

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That's all you need

surreal viper Jul 22, 2017, 9:45 PM

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and luck

keen birch Jul 22, 2017, 9:45 PM

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An attractive trailer and a stage

surreal viper Jul 22, 2017, 9:45 PM

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people need to resonate with your random junk

keen birch Jul 22, 2017, 9:45 PM

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With the right people watching it

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^^

surreal viper Jul 22, 2017, 9:46 PM

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also overpromise and don't show too much, let people's imagination do the work

keen birch Jul 22, 2017, 9:46 PM

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^

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Which they did perfectly

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:46 PM

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got a great bullet model

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http://prntscr.com/fz153l

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floral heart Jul 22, 2017, 9:46 PM

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The gaming media also kept feeding into it.

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:46 PM

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But didn't they have to refund millions?

surreal viper Jul 22, 2017, 9:47 PM

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nope

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:47 PM

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I thought loads of people on steam got refunds?

surreal viper Jul 22, 2017, 9:47 PM

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still it's not a way anyone would pick consciously, it isn't even possible to do

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still it's not a way anyone would pick consciously, it isn't even possible to do
but once it happened I guess they were fine with it,

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some refund, still they had much better sale than they would have without all the attention

floral heart Jul 22, 2017, 9:49 PM

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The people who refunded were probably the same people who actually went through with boycotting Black Ops 2.

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:49 PM

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Someone help me with my bullet model?

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 9:50 PM

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this is not #lounge

floral heart Jul 22, 2017, 9:50 PM

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...More topically, Sony can start a hype train with a hugely misleading trailer (to be fair, that's more Ubisoft's schtick), but can Epic?

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:51 PM

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http://prntscr.com/fz16vo Do I just drag the fbx file in or all of them?

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next badger Jul 22, 2017, 9:51 PM

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@pale remnant just fbx

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@pale remnant .mat is a material description for .obj

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doesnt used by ue4

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:52 PM

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do I need to set it as a skeletal mesh?

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 9:53 PM

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@pale remnant is it? a skeletal mesh? i doubt

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skeletal mesh has skeleton and may have animations

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:53 PM

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awhhh then no

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http://prntscr.com/fz17st wtf is strip?

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I know what the rest of them are but not the strip

spice urchin Jul 22, 2017, 9:54 PM

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@pale remnant are you planning to shoot the bullet AND the shell?

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 9:54 PM

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@pale remnant Well, You have multimesh there.

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:54 PM

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Yeah

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I'm gonna switch my current projectile with the bullet

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 9:54 PM

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@pale remnant green ones are materials

spice urchin Jul 22, 2017, 9:55 PM

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so you're going to launch a shell casing with a bullet out?

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:55 PM

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A what

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Sorry I'm a noob

spice urchin Jul 22, 2017, 9:55 PM

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i'm just curious what that bullet model will be used for

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:55 PM

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at unreal

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Oh for my ak 47 model i have

spice urchin Jul 22, 2017, 9:55 PM

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it's pretty but i don't see it actually being rendered at any point

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:56 PM

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Yeah lol

spice urchin Jul 22, 2017, 9:56 PM

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unless it's a singular prop you want to have sitting around

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:56 PM

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I suppose I could do that

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As like an ammo pickup or what

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 9:57 PM

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Bullet + Shell + gun powder + primer assembly callet Cartridge

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:57 PM

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Wait

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How do i assemble the thing into a model

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 9:57 PM

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ammo is plural for cartridges

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@pale remnant in blueprint?

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 9:59 PM

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http://prntscr.com/fz19z3 like this?

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next badger Jul 22, 2017, 9:59 PM

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You better to try import it as combined mesh
https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/images/Engine/Content/FBX/ImportOptions/StaticMeshImportOptions.jpg

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 10:01 PM

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http://prntscr.com/fz1anp that did the trick

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Just a tad bit pink lmao

digital anchor Jul 22, 2017, 10:15 PM

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looks like a dildo

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those electric ones

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 10:17 PM

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lol

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Have another problem

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http://prntscr.com/fz1ghj bullets are upsidedown

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Have Rotated it every way

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But no joy in putting them pointing out

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 10:20 PM

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📎 screenshot.1500761901.png

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Import Rotation

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You have to press reimport after those set

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📎 screenshot.1500762062.png

pale remnant Jul 22, 2017, 10:22 PM

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import rotation on my bullet?

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 10:23 PM

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no, on AK, so they were aligned... kappaross

heady bridge Jul 22, 2017, 10:24 PM

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Hello, I have a question, I'm making an FPS, in which you can see the character when you look down, I have an issue where the arms do not move with the camera, do the arms have to be a separate mesh from the rest of the character for this to work correctly or is there a way to keep the arms attached and can move with the camera? because there will be parts where the player sees the character in a full body mirror

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 10:26 PM

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@heady bridge generally it is a camera attacher to the player character

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@heady bridge You could look how it's made in FPS template or FPS shooter demo

heady bridge Jul 22, 2017, 10:27 PM

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I did open up a fresh FPS template, but the mesh is attatched to the camera, but if I attatched the whole mesh, the entire body will move with the camera and look really weird

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 10:29 PM

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@heady bridge i'm not sure how weird it may be, since generally human's head attached to the body...

heady bridge Jul 22, 2017, 10:29 PM

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Well, if the mesh is atattched to the camera, when I look down, the body is 90 degrees in the air

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 10:30 PM

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pwahahah

heady bridge Jul 22, 2017, 10:30 PM

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I'm not making a Superman game Lol

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 10:30 PM

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like that:
player character
|_capsule
|_camera
|_body

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so, capsule acts like a root and moves in space, camera acts like a head

heady bridge Jul 22, 2017, 10:32 PM

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How could I make the arms holding the gun move with the camera and not the body though?

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 10:34 PM

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@heady bridge You want to leave the body behind?

heady bridge Jul 22, 2017, 10:35 PM

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no, like in battlefield when you look down, you see your characters legs, but the arms move with the camera, currently my mesh is all 1 mesh, so when the arms move with the camera, the entire body is

whole quarry Jul 22, 2017, 10:35 PM

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I would guess that the arms are seperate from the body

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where the arms are like in a normal FPS and the body addition to make the illusion of a trueFPS

heady bridge Jul 22, 2017, 10:36 PM

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Yeah, that's what I'm going for, I thought seperate would be the way to go, but I wasn't sure if there was a better way to do it or something

next badger Jul 22, 2017, 10:37 PM

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So:
player character
|_capsule
|_camera
|_hands
|_body

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see no issues here

heady bridge Jul 22, 2017, 10:40 PM

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I'll try that out, I'll have to dismember my character Haha

thorn topaz Jul 22, 2017, 11:12 PM

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Is there any other way to save data at runtime other than the "save game" functionality?

sacred crater Jul 22, 2017, 11:20 PM

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Game instance?

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if you only need it the existing instance of the game

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if you need it between instances, so shutting down and reboot, savegame.

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What's wrong with using the save games?

heady bridge Jul 22, 2017, 11:31 PM

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Is game instance only a temporary save?

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kind of like using checkpoints?

thorn topaz Jul 22, 2017, 11:33 PM

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no i mean for use the next time the game runs

cursive dirge Jul 22, 2017, 11:33 PM

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well, game instance is just a "god" class instance that exists throughout the game

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what you put there is your business

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so basically if you store anything in gameinstance, it doesn't get wiped on level change for example

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so, that doesn't help you

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anyway, what's the issue with existing save functionality?

heady bridge Jul 22, 2017, 11:34 PM

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That sounds interesting

plush yew Jul 22, 2017, 11:34 PM

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Please welcome @spare kettle to the community! :beers:

cursive dirge Jul 22, 2017, 11:35 PM

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if you go to c++, you can serialize your saves just like you want (if you need something different)

heady bridge Jul 22, 2017, 11:35 PM

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OH the save game issue wasn't me, I thought game instance sounded interesting so I popped in real quick lol

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I'll look more into it, thanks for the quick summary of it @cursive dirge

cursive dirge Jul 22, 2017, 11:35 PM

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np, it's handy to know it's there

thorn topaz Jul 22, 2017, 11:36 PM

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I need to save a bunch of different arrays

paper briar Jul 22, 2017, 11:41 PM

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How would a Ryzen 5 1600 w/ Asus Strix ROG RX 570 do with UE4?

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16GB 3000 mHz DDR4 Ram

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And does storage (SSD, HDD, Hybrid) speed affect the engine quickness?

glossy flame Jul 22, 2017, 11:45 PM

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Everything except for the CPU is definitely fine. I only say except the CPU because I really haven't taken the time to look at Ryzen benches since I'm not upgrading any time soon, but I'd assume it would work fine

paper briar Jul 22, 2017, 11:45 PM

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CPU has 6 cores, 12 threads

glossy flame Jul 22, 2017, 11:45 PM

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I have a 4690k, and though it definitely shows its i5-ness a bit during engine compiles, it's generally fine

paper briar Jul 22, 2017, 11:45 PM

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In sum

glossy flame Jul 22, 2017, 11:46 PM

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Yeah, that should be go then. And to answer your last question, generally yes.

spare kettle Jul 22, 2017, 11:46 PM

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@paper briar ssds usually help anything run smoother

glossy flame Jul 22, 2017, 11:46 PM

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C++ compiles benefit from a SSD well

paper briar Jul 22, 2017, 11:46 PM

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Ok nice

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I just snagged in ROG rx 570 for $210 today

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😉

glossy flame Jul 22, 2017, 11:46 PM

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(though a full engine compile on an SSD is a big sacrifice 😦 )

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Something like 60gb IIRC

paper briar Jul 22, 2017, 11:47 PM

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woaw

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xD

spare kettle Jul 22, 2017, 11:47 PM

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feels good to have 512gb ssd

paper briar Jul 22, 2017, 11:47 PM

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ye im getting 500gb

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samsung evo

glossy flame Jul 22, 2017, 11:48 PM

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Oh yeah, I even have a 500gb but it's still a good chunk of it

paper briar Jul 22, 2017, 11:48 PM

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im getting a 1TB WD black

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which will be lightning quick

glossy flame Jul 22, 2017, 11:48 PM

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I would push you towards a 2TB if you can afford it :p

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Helps a lot

spare kettle Jul 22, 2017, 11:48 PM

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@glossy flame 2TB ssd?

paper briar Jul 22, 2017, 11:48 PM

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hmmmm

glossy flame Jul 22, 2017, 11:49 PM

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HDD, haha

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2TB SSD is like full PC price 😄

paper briar Jul 22, 2017, 11:49 PM

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nah hdd

spare kettle Jul 22, 2017, 11:49 PM

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whew, I was trying to imagine how much that would cost..

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I just installed my 2TB hdd yesterday 😃

paper briar Jul 22, 2017, 11:49 PM

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lol

glossy flame Jul 22, 2017, 11:50 PM

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Yeah, games like GTA and DOOM taking up 60GB make me really happy I got a 2TB

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Plus I've got a lot of flac on my HDD

spare kettle Jul 22, 2017, 11:55 PM

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can someone take a look at the issue I've posted in #paper-2d

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 12:14 AM

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Please welcome @alpine horizon to the community! :beers:

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Please welcome @warm beacon to the community! :beers:

pale remnant Jul 23, 2017, 1:45 AM

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@heady bridge If you want to see the legs the best would be to use is the third person template

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http://prntscr.com/fz36mk

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and move the camera forward to the body and attach it to the head

heady bridge Jul 23, 2017, 2:14 AM

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@pale remnant I know that is the easiest way, and I have done that many times in the past, I know how to make a true FPS with full body, I just wanted to know how I could move the arms without moving the body

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thanks though @pale remnant

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I like having my own ways to do different things, that work best for my workflow 😃

pale remnant Jul 23, 2017, 2:43 AM

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good fps map size

polar hawk Jul 23, 2017, 2:56 AM

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Anyone want a standard edition of Fortnite for $15? Thats $5 off <_<

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 5:37 AM

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Please welcome @rapid oak to the community! :beers:

rapid oak Jul 23, 2017, 5:37 AM

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anyone alive in here?

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 5:37 AM

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Possibly

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Welcome 😃

rapid oak Jul 23, 2017, 5:38 AM

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that cares to help me with a bug test?

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ill pay you with internet cookies?

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 5:38 AM

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Are you having issues with Multiplayer?

rapid oak Jul 23, 2017, 5:38 AM

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yes

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think i got it all fixed up now though

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"possibly"

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 5:39 AM

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Im sure someone would put their hand up. Im not in an position to help right now unfortunately.

rapid oak Jul 23, 2017, 5:39 AM

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thanks anyways

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its got jetpacks!

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and pew pew

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someone give me a hand/

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 6:17 AM

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Please welcome @lavish marten to the community! :beers:

vale halo Jul 23, 2017, 6:20 AM

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Anyone here had a blueprint not open due to it's function+display name being changed?

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And if so, is there an (easy) fix that doesn't involve recreating the BP from scratch?

bleak copper Jul 23, 2017, 7:16 AM

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Btw

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Am I the only one having troubles shutting down the editor these days?

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Like I click X or file->exit and it just doesn't. I need to kill its task?

heady bridge Jul 23, 2017, 7:18 AM

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I've never had that issue before, force shutdown?

sudden agate Jul 23, 2017, 7:42 AM

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How likely is it that a pull request gets merged?

bleak copper Jul 23, 2017, 7:48 AM

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Depends on the request I'd assume. They accept lots of community help though. What do you want to merge?

sudden agate Jul 23, 2017, 7:51 AM

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Exposing some SeamlessTravel Stuff from GameMode to BP

bleak copper Jul 23, 2017, 7:59 AM

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Sounds reasonable

vale halo Jul 23, 2017, 8:28 AM

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Cool 👍

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 9:02 AM

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@bleak copper if you right click the editor icon from the windows task bar and select close, will ue4 start responding to that immediately by asking if you want to save the level? (if there is something to save)

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for me, editor has been completely useless since 4.12, it keeps freezing on all kinds of tasks, like if I want to put a breakpoint into BP, it freezes there and I have wait a minute or few for it to wake up. When you wipe you intermediate and saved folders and regen the files, it works for a while again but then same things starts happening after a while. I got so frustrated about that I converted even my most trivial BPs into c++ and even added hardcoded references to assets in c++ so wouldn't have to touch BPs ever again

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it didn't freeze on BPs only but since you can only edit them in the editor, they were definitely painful to use

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but yeah, my experience with UE4 just got so bad I eventually dropped the whole engine :p

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it wasn't just the freezes but all the inflexibility everywhere

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oh and for the record, that freezing happened on many UE versions since 4.12 and on old and new projects

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so it's not just some one corrupted project that was messed up

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:44 AM

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Thats sad to hear mate.

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 9:46 AM

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i dont have those kind of problems

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:46 AM

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Neither do i

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:47 AM

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The freezes I see in UE4 are when you "apply" a material, import a texture / object. Those should really be asynchronous instead of freezing the UI.

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Though they're manageable and pretty harmless, it's annoying

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 9:47 AM

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my ue4 freezes completely for a few seconds when openinign

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asset discovery it says

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:48 AM

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The only time i have an "freeze" is compiling large blueprints or especially when i run PIE and there is an dirty BP that needs to be compiled before PIE can run

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:50 AM

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Then again the issues are quite manageable and the game itself runs really really fine

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:50 AM

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Yeah.

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@cursive dirge what hardware do you run on?

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 9:51 AM

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i3570k, gtx970, 24gb, SSDs, Win10

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I'm not only one getting these issues, there are lots of others who have suffered the same on answerhub

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it's not hw issue

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it's sw issue

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:53 AM

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The CPU does explain part of it

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 9:53 AM

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huh

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UE4 never maxes the cpu

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 9:53 AM

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could be the cores

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 9:53 AM

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we are talking about code bug here

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ummm

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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"maxing" a multicore CPU is almost impossible

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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oh, and i max my 2600k daily

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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editor is clearly on some waiting state for that few minutes always

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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but from compiling/lightbaking/packaging

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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it just times out

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it has NOTHING to do with my cpu

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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2600k was an amazing CPU just to derail this convo hahah

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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thats why i havent upgraded yet

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just not worth it

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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I had one lol

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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ill try to get a threadripper now

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from 4 to 16 cores lmao

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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I've got a 3770K, also not worth updating

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:54 AM

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Im on an 7700k now

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 9:55 AM

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finally a proper upgrade

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:55 AM

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Engine, my takeway is that UE4 needs really highest end hardware that is, for the editor ; and the game you're making runs on pretty much everything short of old phones

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 9:56 AM

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a non-laptop i3 should run it well tho

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:56 AM

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Have you tried running the editor on another machine?

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 9:57 AM

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@frank escarp Actually @cursive dirge 's CPU is a i5, not an i3 like it sounds like

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 9:58 AM

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yeah, it's still a capable CPU

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sure it's 5 years old

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but was top of the line i5 back then

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:02 AM

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@cursive dirge Getting an i7 is a really good idea for UE4 though. Especially if you are looking at baking stuff

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:02 AM

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yeah, like mentioned, got fed up with ue4 already

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I've used the engine for 3+ years, I know parts I need to know inside and out, it's just too tedious to work with for my purposes

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if I still used ue4, I'd definitely get a new CPU as I spent weeks of doing even simple mods to the engine core that should take few days

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I was mainly waiting all the time for the engine to compile

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:05 AM

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Well compiling is definitely something that depends on your CPU

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Compiling on a i7 is typically twice faster than on a i5, it's heavily CPU bound

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 10:05 AM

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what are you using now? unity?

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:08 AM

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Well, he's not going to wait for that engine to compile 🙄

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:08 AM

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Lol

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:12 AM

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Seriously though, Epic has repeatedly shown that they work with the engine themselves, improve it when they see lacking stuff on their own projects, and try to keep existing features after they are added, without really working on stuff that isn't in their scenario

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:13 AM

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sorry, KVM messed up and got lost in the other channel

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:13 AM

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The editor is typically something they don't try to optimize unfortunately

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:13 AM

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yeah Unity is my main contender atm. I already have most of my own code in custom c++ dll so I don't even rely much on the game engine for other than rendering stuff

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I'm also evaluating CryEngine atm but waiting for CE 5.4 to get out (should be close now)

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I've used Unity for same amount at UE4 (3+ years) so I know how it works

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it's way more flexible for my needs than UE4 ever was

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there are of course downsides too but I can minimize them (like mentioned already, I don't need much from the game engine itself)

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:16 AM

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Unity is always going to be much more flexible, that's their selling point. It's a smaller engine with 5% of the features, and it works really well if the feature set is good enough for you

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Though friends who shipped their game with Unity came back to me asking for an introduction to UE4 because of how many issues they had. I think all engines are going to be lacking in some area - the key is selecting the one that works best for you

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:17 AM

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the core issue with me using UE4 is that I'd need to change plenty of their renderer stuff, which I'm not really looking forwards to as working in the engine core is so slow + UE4 is easily the most expensive engine out there and I wouldn't use more than 10% of the feats compared to most engine users

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yeah, they are

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there's no perfect engine

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if there were an open source renderer lib that could match even close to these commercial ones, I'd just go that route

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but Ogre3D and bgfx are nowhere close

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:18 AM

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Funny you mention cost, UE4 is just 10% of our fees & taxes & other stuff that's removed from our sales

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That seems pretty okay

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:19 AM

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10% is pretty close figure probably, that's what I calculated in past

tall pendant Jul 23, 2017, 10:19 AM

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@cursive dirge have you had a look at godot? looks quite ok.

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:19 AM

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godot isn't good for realistic looking things 😄

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if I were ok with godots rendering, I'd be ok with ogre and bgfx too

tall pendant Jul 23, 2017, 10:20 AM

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ah okay hehe 😛

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:20 AM

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also 10% may not sound much but if you actually use the engine for business, that's a lot in the end

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:20 AM

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Out of curiosity what things did UE4 not support in rendering that you needed ?

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Yeah I'm talking about business here

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:21 AM

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especially when the engine slows you down

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:21 AM

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States take 20%, Valve more than that, Epic keeps 5% of the original cost once you're selling well

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Pretty okay imho

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:22 AM

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yeah, I'd be ok with the epics pricetag is I could actually use the most of the engine

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but I'm running my own physics, input, netcode already and the part I'd need the UE4 doesn't work out of the box my way

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just to make it clear, the pricetag is not the main reason I'm fed up with UE4 😄

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it's just that extra bit and it's a fact UE4 is the most expensive game engine indies can get their hands on

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for the reference, a colleague of mine would have paid 100k for epics royalty so far from his game if he had picked UE4, instead he's now paying €125/mo sub for Unity 😄

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:27 AM

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Congrats on your friends brealking 2M$ in sales

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:27 AM

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Doesnt unity have an royalty scheme anymore?

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:27 AM

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They never had

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:28 AM

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Oh no thats right over $100k you had to buy the licence.

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:28 AM

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@cloud cobalt yeah, he did good 😄

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 10:28 AM

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@cursive dirge unity is going to open wide the renderer

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:28 AM

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Been an while since ive worked on Unity lol

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 10:28 AM

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they are going to make the render graph accessible, wich should allow you to implement whatever the fuck you want

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:28 AM

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@weary basalt yeah, they never had royalty scheme, at cheapest tier it's free, next tier is 35€/mo and the most expensive is 125€/mo

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yeah, it's looking good

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Unity that is

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 10:29 AM

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unity gets their money from the store

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:29 AM

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they got rid of the old mono

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 10:29 AM

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im damn sure of that

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:29 AM

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getting new GC

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:29 AM

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Yeah those asset packs are where Unity makes money

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 10:29 AM

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they are also doing some multithread stuff that looks highly interesting

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:29 AM

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Wait the stopped Mono support?

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 10:29 AM

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for managed unity specific game object multithreading

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wich makes multithreading game objects easier

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:30 AM

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@weary basalt no they still support mono

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they just got 4.5 .NET subset now, still C#6 only (no C#7)

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:30 AM

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Ah right fair enough. Damn ive missed alot haha

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:31 AM

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they couldn't upgrade the ancient mono version when xamarin was in charge

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:31 AM

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Mind you i havent had any reason to look back

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:31 AM

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when MS bought xamarin, things changed

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CE is kinda wild card atm, they've been doing a lot of work making it more noob friendly, like they can actually import FBX files now (this probably sounded silly :D)

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and we all know Cryteks financial status (and licensing oddities)

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:35 AM

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Isn't CryEngine completely not an option because it has nothing but a renderer and a level editor ?

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I mean the main reason I use UE4 is the material editor, content browser, data assets, Blueprints, etc

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:36 AM

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I only need a renderer

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and them not having any baked lights is just a big plus

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ok, a shader editor would be nice, they kinda rely on their bloated übershader on CE to cater all users

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but you can still write custom shader code there if you need to

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:38 AM

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See, that's where it starts depending on the project 😄

tall pendant Jul 23, 2017, 10:38 AM

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@cursive dirge if you only need a render engine. take a look at mizuchi 😛

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:38 AM

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No baked lights would be a heavy no go for some projects

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:38 AM

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yeah, but I mainly need good and realistic looking outdoor rendering

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:38 AM

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CryEngine sounds like that

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:38 AM

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yeah it does

tall pendant Jul 23, 2017, 10:38 AM

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@cursive dirge https://www.siliconstudio.co.jp/middleware/mizuchi/en/

Mizuchi - The Real-time Rendering Engine - Silicon Studio

Create visuals in real-time - Mizuchi goes beyond the limits for real-time graphics

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:38 AM

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I mean the outside rendering is 100% what CE does best

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:38 AM

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@tall pendant I looked at their game engine, that cheap unity clone 😄

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I wasn't impressed

tall pendant Jul 23, 2017, 10:39 AM

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yeah not talking bout Xenko 😛

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:40 AM

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that mizuchi doesn't look like it's meant to be even used in games

tall pendant Jul 23, 2017, 10:41 AM

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It is. it even runs on ps4 afaik

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 10:41 AM

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well, they do list games as one use case but yeah, that's too wild card + it's probably expensive

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they don't even list the prices publicly

feral kiln Jul 23, 2017, 10:44 AM

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Can anyone give advice on what to buy in building a computer for game dev that can run UE4 and other editor smoothly? 😃

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:47 AM

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Good i7, good nVidia GPU, 16GB RAM and a large SSD !

feral kiln Jul 23, 2017, 10:51 AM

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The 7th in i7? I heard that the 8th gen is coming soon, if it is true. I'm not that good when in comes to this stuffs. :/

tall pendant Jul 23, 2017, 10:53 AM

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i9's are already on the market

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 10:53 AM

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Honestly, why should you even give a crap

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Afaik the performance difference from fifth gen to seventh is marginal at best in most usecases

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:54 AM

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All i7 generations have basically the same perf

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^

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 10:54 AM

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(As far as I'm concerned)

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Basically

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:54 AM

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It's not just you

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 10:54 AM

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From the point they got hyperthreading

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They all do the same

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And I think hyperthreading was introduced in the 4000 series...?

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(And honestly, for most things hyperthreading is useless, too)

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Hek, seemingly hyperthreading was introduced in the second generation

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So never mind that

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 10:58 AM

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Way before that yeah

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2600 was HT

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 10:58 AM

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Yup

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Any number above 2600 has hyperthreading

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(right?)

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Well, all i7's anyway

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 11:00 AM

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heh " All i7 generations have basically the same perf"

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I swapped my i7-920 into i5-3570k

rough sonnet Jul 23, 2017, 11:01 AM

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where is the best subtopic to ask about lighting?

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 11:01 AM

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#graphics

rough sonnet Jul 23, 2017, 11:02 AM

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thank you @cursive dirge

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:02 AM

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@cursive dirge I said, from the moment they got hyperthreading 😛

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As far as I'm concerned a 920 doesn't have hyperthreading?

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 11:02 AM

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I never found any benefit from that

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it did have

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:02 AM

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No

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But the moment they introduced HP into their normal CPU's Intel started slacking like hell

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 11:03 AM

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back then, games were still heavily single thread focused on perf

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actually, that isn't even related to this

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but 920 definitely had HT

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:04 AM

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HP is honestly crap and in almost every usecase completely useless

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Yeah, just checked, I goofed, it does

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:05 AM

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no its not

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hyperthreading is a really fucking good idea

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:05 AM

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But once their standard CPU's started to use hyperthreading Intel stopped the performance-boost progress, and started focussing on TDP and the like

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It's a good idea, executed pretty poorly

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:05 AM

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no its not

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:05 AM

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And that execution isn't Intel's fault

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:05 AM

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hyperthreading works by keep the CPU fed

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:05 AM

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Just, ya know, no-one cares to program for it 😛

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:05 AM

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you dont program for hyperthreading

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its an OS thing

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:05 AM

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No, obviously, you code for the cores

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:06 AM

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all hyperthreading does is to try to keep the cpu fed constantly

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while a core has to get memory from RAM, it has to wait a bit till it arrives

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 11:06 AM

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You code for threads, not cores or HT

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:06 AM

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so hyperthreading just starts executing other stuff

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:06 AM

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logical cores/threads are the same, right...?

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:06 AM

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if your workload is heavily math/computation intensive, with low RAM access, then you dont get as much of a improvement

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no

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 11:06 AM

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I mean you write threads

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:06 AM

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core is the actual chip

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 11:06 AM

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That's it

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:06 AM

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thread is an OS construct

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you right now have thousands of threads in windows

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windows decides what to execute, and where

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essentially, windows treats the hyperthreading cpu as if it has all those cores

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thats why you see 8 cores in the performance manager when you have 4

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📎 image.png

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the cpu chip itself decides wich one to execute

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:08 AM

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Yeah

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:08 AM

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depending on the details

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so when one thread needs to find data from ram, then it keeps executing other thing while the data arrives

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its really smar, and gets good gains

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but its never going to be x2 power

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:08 AM

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Ah, like that

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:08 AM

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unless its a really memory limited benchmark

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like a database for example

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:08 AM

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GG everyone for always explaining hyperthreading to me incorrectly

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x3

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:09 AM

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usually, the less % you win by hyperthreading, the better is the CPU

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if cpus were perfect, hyperthreading would do nothing

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:09 AM

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😛

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Because less time waiting -> no time needs to be filled by better threads

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:09 AM

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exactly

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AMD bulldozer had 8 cores

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but they werent real

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they were half cores

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they had lots of parts shared

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so yeah, 8 cores at 4.5 ghz!!!!

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and fucking trash performance XD

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intel, on the other hand, implemented hyperthreading to use the cpu at a higher %

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:10 AM

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Stuck on an FX-6300

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 11:10 AM

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https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/06/25/intel_skylake_kaby_lake_hyperthreading/

Intel's Skylake and Kaby Lake CPUs have nasty hyper-threading bug

Debian devs noticed errata to deep docs and now the fit's hitting the shan

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:11 AM

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cpus are complicated as fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

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they are black magic arcane crystals XD

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:12 AM

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I've given up on understanding them, honestly 😛

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:12 AM

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i know how to make one, but only at the level of tech of the 80s

keen birch Jul 23, 2017, 11:12 AM

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I know just about enough to say if one's good or bad

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:12 AM

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cpus were simple back then

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they just executed one instruction and then the next

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current cpus are fucking insane

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they reorder instructions real time

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to try to execute them as fast as possible

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and try to predict what is going to happen, so they can be prepared

tender dome Jul 23, 2017, 11:44 AM

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in which section, can i post my camera related prob

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 11:44 AM

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Please welcome @tawny fog to the community! :beers:

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 11:45 AM

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hello

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 11:48 AM

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@tender dome Here or #graphics maybe. Whats the issue.

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Hello @tawny fog

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 11:49 AM

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now......how hard can C++ be.....

Looks at script......regret

weary basalt Jul 23, 2017, 11:50 AM

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C++ can be intimidating, especially if you have no prior programming experience, but it becomes really powerful and easy to work with once you understand its fundamentals.

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:50 AM

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one never stops learning C++

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 11:50 AM

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that sounds like me right now :p

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:50 AM

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its a huge clusterfuck of a lenguage, but incredibly powerful

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pro tip. Dont try to learn C++ alongside ue4

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learn it on its own

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 11:51 AM

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ok

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:51 AM

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once you have the C++ basics hammered down you can then try with ue4

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 11:52 AM

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i'll ask my friend as he is going a coding course and ask if he has anything that he could give me to me to learn about C++

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 11:52 AM

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something i recomend everyone is to learn the C++ basics and then try to make Pong or Snake with SFML (a 2d library)

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if you can do that, you can then pick up ue4 C++ nicely

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 11:53 AM

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ok

tender dome Jul 23, 2017, 11:57 AM

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i am reading "learning c++ by creating games with UE4" and have completed c++ basic part and now im starting in UE4 part. will i regret this in future

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 12:00 PM

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I'm still waiting for the ue4 with basic addon

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:00 PM

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the main issue is that ue4 handholds you quite a bit to make your life easier. But if you learn with that you are learning bad practises

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and its a huge codebase with a lot of stuff, wich makes noobs go mad when they see all that stuff

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to be fair i also dont recomend anyone to learn C# with unity, even if its a much simpler thing

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:01 PM

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why is that?

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 12:03 PM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:03 PM

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becouse its bad practises, and you end up in tutorial land ridiculously fast

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and you dont learn the basics behind the stuff

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you dont learn how to program, but how to use unity to do basic stuff, wich gets you stuck real fast

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ive seen that happen MANY times

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 12:04 PM

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plays windows Russian roulette by installing new NVidia drivers

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:04 PM

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its much better to learn programming from zero in a vacum

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once you know the basics, you can do some excersises by making some very simple 2d games with a library

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then, when you go to unreal/unity, you will know what the stuff is about

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 12:05 PM

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what the hell

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:05 PM

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and its reason

wheat pendant Jul 23, 2017, 12:05 PM

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Why not very simple 3d games with a library

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 12:05 PM

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Please welcome @quartz pagoda to the community! :beers:

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:05 PM

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becouse 3d is a clusterfuck

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the idea is to just do some basic excersises

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thats why its Pong or a mario clone

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its about coding it yourself, the library only draws stuff on screen

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you learn a LOT from that

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and then engines are easy, as you know why they do what they do

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i myself had that issue when i started. I tried to learn UDK programmign with unreal, but got stuck and had massive issues, until i just decided to go with pure C++ and learn proper programming

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then when i came back, everything was super easy

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and ive seen many other people get stuck in that same way

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or dont get stuck, but be absolute terrible programmers

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 12:08 PM

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the ue4 c++ course starts with plain c++ doesn't it

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:08 PM

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it tries to go from C++ basics to ue4, wich is a absurd jump

wheat pendant Jul 23, 2017, 12:08 PM

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So then where would you recommand someone to learn C++? What website and all?

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:09 PM

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just any noob book

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there are plenty of them

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once you finish that noob book, then you go try to make some 2d game with SFML

wheat pendant Jul 23, 2017, 12:09 PM

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So you're saying to read "C++ for dummies" and after that voila, you're a C++ pro?

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:09 PM

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SFML is a very easy to use library for rendering and input and sound

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you just tell it to draw a sprite at a location

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and it does it

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trying to make a game with just that is hard, but once you do so, you understand how game development programming works

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you would be surprised how hard it is to code Pong when you have only done basic console stuff

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my results teaching people with this kind of route are spectacular, for the few people i trained

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:12 PM

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ok

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:12 PM

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on ue4 itself, ive found sticking to blueprints is better for noobs

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even if they already know C++

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to learn how the engine does stuff

wheat pendant Jul 23, 2017, 12:12 PM

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how much time did it take them from knowing nothing to coding complex 3D games on their own?

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:12 PM

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for the ones i trained, 3-4 months

wheat pendant Jul 23, 2017, 12:12 PM

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3-4 months

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 12:12 PM

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teach us o wise one

wheat pendant Jul 23, 2017, 12:12 PM

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>3-4 months

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How much money do you want

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:13 PM

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1 month to learn the basics, other month to do 2d stuff, and a 3rd month to start doing 3d stuff

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:13 PM

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what i was thinking was learning how to write C++ and know the basics to it them create something using it in Unreal..

wheat pendant Jul 23, 2017, 12:13 PM

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No seriously, how much money do you want

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:13 PM

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i dont want money

wheat pendant Jul 23, 2017, 12:13 PM

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Where do I sign off my soul then

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:13 PM

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it's called a book

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:14 PM

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i just act as mentor, giving them a path to follow. But im not completely on top of them

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:14 PM

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which i'm going to try to find...

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 12:14 PM

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ok, we shall start by learning plain c++

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last time I touched it was on unix

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:14 PM

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http://management.ind.in/forum/attachments/f2/13598d1415431776-c-module-1-game-institute-c-module-1-game-institute.pdf

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this one is fairly good

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it is from a games school

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downside is that its a bit older

wheat pendant Jul 23, 2017, 12:15 PM

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How about this one?

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https://noobtuts.com/cpp

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 12:15 PM

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damnit, NVidia installer has messed up my desktop icons

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:15 PM

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300+ pages......well then better start now

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:16 PM

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one of the cool things in that book, is that to teach OOP it does a full text rpg

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:16 PM

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ok

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sweet

quartz pagoda Jul 23, 2017, 12:16 PM

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Just came in and I see this discussion, I think I like this server

wheat pendant Jul 23, 2017, 12:16 PM

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welp Here I go. Be back in a month I guess

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:17 PM

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for questions, just ask on #cpp

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when learning C++

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:17 PM

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jesus christ.....i've just read the first 3 pages and my head is already spinning

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:18 PM

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btw never copypaste

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EVER

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write it yourself

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:18 PM

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ok

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funny thing is i'm learning Blender and Unreal....and now C++

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while doing my final years of school

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yay

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:19 PM

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universities dont teach programming well

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i dont think its something good to teach in a class

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becouse people learn it differently

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so they desync

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:19 PM

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yep

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that is why i hate my maths class

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:20 PM

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thats why on every programming class, you get 2 peaks on the marks of the exams

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you get a peak of people going 9+ out of 10

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wich is the ones that "got it" or that knew programming already

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and then you have the rest failing

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there is no middle ground

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i think its best to just give a book, and let the guy take it at his speed, just asking questions when on doubts

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:20 PM

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uni's are battle grounds

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teachers do not want the current year to pull down the marks that they had last year which makes them look bad

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same with School in years 11 and 12

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they teach it and expect you to know wtf they are talking about

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:21 PM

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i do not like structured classes at all. I find them worthless

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but thats only for the way i do stuff

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:22 PM

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same

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if it's hands on i'll most likely remember it

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:22 PM

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when i tought some ue4 classes at university, i just explained stuff for 20 minutes, and left people with excersises to dick around for 1 hour and half

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checking what the guys are doing

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:23 PM

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ok

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well, i've downloaded SFML and i'll see if i can understand the basics of coding as i go along :9

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:24 PM

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SFML is a library to do 2d games

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but its not an engine

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its just a toolset

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it draws stuff, it plays sounds, and it lets you check if a key is pressed or depressed

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and thats about it

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its tutorials are really good

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:25 PM

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ok

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:25 PM

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the explain all the library does

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:25 PM

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this is really my first time learning how to Code

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:25 PM

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but they are not "technique" tutorials, just how to use the engine to draw or play sounds

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so it assumes you know C++ basics already

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 12:26 PM

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ive never heard of sfml, gonna give that a look and see how good its 2d access is

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:26 PM

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its the best 2d library i know for C++

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its open source and very easy to see what it does too

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its not very big

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 12:27 PM

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2d scenery destruction is a pain in the ass in unity, got to use shader or suffer it being slow

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:27 PM

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you create a object, and then render it. For example you create a CircleShape(), put it (set position) where you want, and then you do like window.render(myCirlce)

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it doesnt even have collision or editor

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:27 PM

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i was interested in it 2 years ago when a group of Unity guys came along....but then they gave us jack s**t tutorials on how to use the bloody engine....all i ended up was learning how to build and model terrain and if i tried loading in a Character model it would launch the guy (even though he was above the ground and nothing was around him)....so i stopped until now really...

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:27 PM

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it just renders stuff where you tell it to

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:31 PM

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and not in a good way, they told us to create an invisible wall via a email as part of a "challange series" and when i did make it, it did work....i thought it was a bug with the script so i checked it 4 times but still causing the problem...i even rewrote the script and changed the wall to another object but still...same problem.....

I wasn't given a nice greeting to coding or game development from thous guys who did vist my School to show what you can do with coding and Game Development.......

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 12:33 PM

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heh I was expecting the first example to be "hello world"

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 12:33 PM

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something ive done as first examples with ue4 is to just grab some of the template projects and add stuff

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like double jump or sprits to the 2d template, or projectiles to the top down game, things like that

tawny fog Jul 23, 2017, 12:33 PM

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same...i ended up building a little house

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i'm going to go to bed....C++ is really interesting and mind melting.....know wonder why my friend gave me a look of grief

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 1:10 PM

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rift starting to piss me off, it keeps steaming up

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 1:28 PM

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Please welcome @lime badge to the community! :beers:

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hello, where bug tracker of Unreal Engine?

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 1:32 PM

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http://answers.unrealengine.com

glossy flame Jul 23, 2017, 1:36 PM

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If you're looking for the actual tracker, it's https://issues.unrealengine.com

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Bug reports go on the AnswerHub though

cloud cobalt Jul 23, 2017, 1:36 PM

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Yeah, I thought the one you can submit stuff to would be more useful 😄

stoic moth Jul 23, 2017, 2:06 PM

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guys how expensive si to have the ROTORS of the helicopers (5-10 on screen) rotate instead of having like a material that looks like the blades are rotating ?

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the rotors are quite low poly (rotor and 6 blades) are about 500 poly for each helicopter

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 2:14 PM

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500 polys is low poly for 6 cubes and a cylinder?

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anyway, you'll not get a solid answer for such vague question here

stoic moth Jul 23, 2017, 2:17 PM

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this is how detailed they are

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😦 is it a preformance hit to rotate them fast realtime in the game ?

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or should i be looking in making a material that looks like them spinning really fast

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 2:18 PM

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@stoic moth its not

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but a material that looks like spinning looks a lot better

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as you fake its motion blur

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 2:18 PM

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yeah, especially if you have to rotate those blades fast

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as UE4's motion vectors kinda tend to break after some speed

frank escarp Jul 23, 2017, 2:19 PM

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games normally use 2 meshes

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the slow mesh, what you have there

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and then one with the blurry material for speed

stoic moth Jul 23, 2017, 2:19 PM

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hm so a even lower poly mesh with a special UE material that has motion blur will do then, right ?

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📎 unknown.png

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genius idea with the photoshop trick 😄

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 2:32 PM

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Please welcome @sweet abyss to the community! :beers:

weary hull Jul 23, 2017, 2:54 PM

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will work out about the same, the fast rotor will be a disc so you the edge quite round

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+want

humble rivet Jul 23, 2017, 3:10 PM

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Hi, In my game the characters will be walking on a path from point A to B, Will attack if they find someone.
I have some skeletals with root motion.. My question now is. Do I remove those root motions or DO I redo my animations with Root motion?

tender dome Jul 23, 2017, 3:23 PM

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@frank escarp what should i do, SFML or UE, if i know C++ basics. BTW great advice and thanx @tawny fog for asking all those questions

viscid bone Jul 23, 2017, 4:23 PM

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Could someone help me in #animation

pale remnant Jul 23, 2017, 4:35 PM

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HEllo

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When I shoot my gun the bullet shoots out at the top

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http://prntscr.com/fz9dwn

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HAve been trying to fix this but it won't work

buoyant echo Jul 23, 2017, 4:36 PM

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Offset

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Sorry, you have to fix the offset. Are you using a sphere to spawn them or using a point on the gun

pale remnant Jul 23, 2017, 4:42 PM

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muzzle

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http://prntscr.com/fz9gun

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fixxed it

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Anyone know any programs to translate weapon velocity and speed in real life to unreal

viscid bone Jul 23, 2017, 4:51 PM

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Someone help me in #animation

spice urchin Jul 23, 2017, 4:52 PM

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@pale remnant https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/261703/unreal-speed-units-of-velocity.html

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i actually just googled the question 😛

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it is a neat problem to solve though

vestal cloak Jul 23, 2017, 4:53 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Woik6p983BE were do i find how to do this but for free? plugins welcome

YouTube

Theokoles

Unreal Engine 4 Physical Ocean Surface - Different Sea States

Get this shader here: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/physical-water-surface Here you can see the different sea states that are possible with this s...

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pale remnant Jul 23, 2017, 4:55 PM

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Yeah lol

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Still having a problem with bullets going straight

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http://prntscr.com/fz9lda

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Have literallt roatated this every single way possible but nothing is working

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Do I really need bullets?

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Or projectiles?

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 5:01 PM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

viscid bone Jul 23, 2017, 5:06 PM

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@pale remnant wait what's your question?

pale remnant Jul 23, 2017, 5:06 PM

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Fixed it lol

viscid bone Jul 23, 2017, 5:07 PM

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Oh ok lol

tawny brook Jul 23, 2017, 5:21 PM

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How do i pack the game in the lowest format possible? It's like 400mb for a simple game 😮

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 5:35 PM

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Please welcome @lone night to the community! :beers:

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Hallo everyone - I wanted to reach out to this community regarding a small Project we want to realize. If there is someone that is educated in the FPS space and is interested in helping out I would be super happy about a PM ❤

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Please welcome @willow robin to the community! :beers:

willow robin Jul 23, 2017, 5:44 PM

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Hello!

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I'm a platform engineer (with an IT degree) starting with Unreal. I'm searching a good course of Unreal, but not for begginer people with no programming skills. Just search in the internet and everything for starters requires no programming skills. Any ideas?

frosty bloom Jul 23, 2017, 5:48 PM

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@willow robin look at Udemy.com - UnrealCourses

willow robin Jul 23, 2017, 5:49 PM

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Like that? https://www.udemy.com/unrealcourse/

Udemy

The Unreal Engine Developer Course - Learn C++ & Make Games

Learn C++ from scratch. How to make your first video game in Unreal engine. Gain confidence in programming.

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I was reading the index of the course, and it's more programming oriented for teaching people to code than to use Unreal framework u.u'

pale remnant Jul 23, 2017, 5:52 PM

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http://prntscr.com/fza73i Anyway I could modify this windmill so that my character would go inside and stuff

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spice urchin Jul 23, 2017, 6:17 PM

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@pale remnant export it to a 3d package and chop it up

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there's no shortcut really

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best case scenario, you'll be able to duplicate the exterior faces of the wall and re-use them inside. however, that still leaves the interior ceiling with nothing, so you'll likely have to re-use the texture of the wood sides there for that

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the wood sides up top will have to be both floor and ceiling unless you have any other better materials/textures laying around

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i say that's the best case scenario, because worst-case is - you have to create new textures too

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there's some very clear modeling and UV work required at the bare minimum as well as creating new collision and breaking out the door into a separate mesh for interactivity

pale remnant Jul 23, 2017, 6:40 PM

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Yeah haha

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Anyone have any idea how to aim down sights

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 6:42 PM

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@pale remnant @spice urchin well, twosided material could work too, without having to duplicate the faces

harsh tiger Jul 23, 2017, 6:43 PM

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Hi everyone, I've tried to build the lighting for my level and got this error: https://gyazo.com/43424c9b6d434c1aa580d86c7fd7f653 does anyone know of a fix?

Gyazo

spice urchin Jul 23, 2017, 6:58 PM

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@Olento the walls would have zero thickness with that solution unfortunately and it would make collision a lot harder to make accurate. i don't think there's an entirely "in-engine" solution for him tbh. unless the door is using a different material and he wants to do the interior as BSP then convert to static mesh and then combine the pieces as a blueprint prefab

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that would work but be super messy

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 7:24 PM

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Please welcome @timber fable to the community! :beers:

frank glen Jul 23, 2017, 7:37 PM

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yo, how can I fix it? xd

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plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 7:45 PM

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Hallo everyone - I wanted to reach out to this community regarding a small Project we want to realize. If there is someone that is educated in the FPS space and is interested in helping out - can someon tell me where to start?

bleak copper Jul 23, 2017, 7:57 PM

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@cursive dirge The editor responds fine. I can move the camera and so forth. Close just does nothing.

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Started after one of the 4.16 hotfixes.

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 7:58 PM

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ah, it's not the same thing then

bleak copper Jul 23, 2017, 8:00 PM

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Although it could have started after something I did too of course. Don't know what in the world that would be >.>;

cursive dirge Jul 23, 2017, 8:22 PM

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https://www.fxguide.com/featured/a-fortnite-at-epic/

fxguide

Mike Seymour

A Fortnite at Epic

Exclusive Siggraph Preview: Strange things are afoot at the DurrrBurger, ...we talk to Directors and the team about their Fortnite UE4 short film. And do a deep dive in the Cool Tech of a real time rendering, animated short film.

pale remnant Jul 23, 2017, 8:55 PM

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How do I get textures here so that I can paint them onto my landscape? http://prntscr.com/fzcclx

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kindred marlin Jul 23, 2017, 9:12 PM

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Anyone else's Epic Games Launcher stuck in a cycle of updating?

orchid sable Jul 23, 2017, 9:21 PM

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has anyone seen this before:

Ensure condition failed: GetShadowIndex() == 0

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one of the players connected to my game (who wasnt doing anything, just sitting idly) crashed, and this was the error that started it off

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also, there were a bunch of warnings before:

Stalled gamethread waiting for particles 0.000255ms 'ParticleSystemComponent /Game/Maps/panorama_nanovoxel: Microvixel_Audio_BP_C_46.ParticleSystem: Particle System /Bluetech/Panorama_xavihouse/ParticleSystems/08_Voxel.08_Voxel

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and Attempting to load 'AkAudio' outside the main thread. This module was already loaded - so it didnt crash but this isn't safe. Please call LoadModule on the main/game thread only. You can use GetModule or GetModuleCHecked instead, those are safe to call outside the game thread

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I am not sure what its saying about using AkAudio outside the main thread, as we are just using it simple the way that the docs explain to (its a plugin we've been using the same way for a year with no trouble)

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 10:07 PM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

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Please welcome @gritty bridge to the community! :beers:

plush yew Jul 23, 2017, 10:36 PM

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Please welcome @shut minnow to the community! :beers:

shut minnow Jul 23, 2017, 10:36 PM

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Howdy folks!

south ridge Jul 23, 2017, 10:39 PM

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Hi there

topaz kettle Jul 23, 2017, 10:42 PM

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mac osx doesn't support modding tools ?

pine shell Jul 23, 2017, 11:33 PM

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question

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which type of game makes more money and why: fps or mmorpgs

tawny brook Jul 23, 2017, 11:40 PM

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Ohhh! Thanks Unreal for crashing on me!

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I was literally saving my files and it crashes

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rip

next badger Jul 24, 2017, 12:49 AM

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@vestal cloak hope it's not too late, there's a demo on Learning tab called Water Planes

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@vestal cloak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ1M0Ejd_ts&index=1&list=PLZlv_N0_O1gYq4tiS45UAgghUxoF916rH&utm_source=launcher&utm_medium=ue&utm_campaign=uelearn

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tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 1:05 AM

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Why is a basic UE4 game like 400mb in size?

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Is it just due to the size of the engine?

cursive dirge Jul 24, 2017, 1:07 AM

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@tawny brook redists and stuff

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 1:07 AM

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Please welcome @native dock to the community! :beers:

cursive dirge Jul 24, 2017, 1:07 AM

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and no compressed paks by default

tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 1:08 AM

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How would i fix that? @cursive dirge

cursive dirge Jul 24, 2017, 1:10 AM

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packaging settings

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if you remove redists and error reporter and compress paks, you save a ton already

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https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Engine/Performance/ReducingPackageSize/index.html

Reducing Packaged Game Size

How to reduce the size of your packaged game.

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@tawny brook ^

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 1:58 AM

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Please welcome @feral stump to the community! :beers:

vestal cloak Jul 24, 2017, 2:02 AM

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@next badger dude thank you!!!!

keen pawn Jul 24, 2017, 2:05 AM

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hey guys anyone know what HZB setup mips are and why they are taking up so much resource?

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 2:13 AM

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Please welcome @steel flame to the community! :beers:

next badger Jul 24, 2017, 2:26 AM

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@tawny brook i believe it could be packaged down to 80+mb, or so, but that's smallest i've seen so far

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@keen pawn https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-33448

keen pawn Jul 24, 2017, 2:28 AM

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cheers dude

tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 2:31 AM

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@next badger 80mb would be IDEAL

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Like.. sending a 400mb package to friends to test a single thing is like... fuck no

buoyant echo Jul 24, 2017, 2:31 AM

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The game I'm making packaged to around 150mb for the first round.

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Took a while to get it to that, though

keen pawn Jul 24, 2017, 2:33 AM

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so @next badger is this litterally saying sorry nothing i can do?

next badger Jul 24, 2017, 2:34 AM

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@tawny brook i've said smallest...means...barebone (or almost)

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@tawny brook each mesh, each texture matters

tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 2:35 AM

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well duh

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😄

next badger Jul 24, 2017, 2:35 AM

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@keen pawn you could wait till 4.18 or apply the fix commit by yourself

keen pawn Jul 24, 2017, 2:35 AM

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what kind of frame increase am i looking at

tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 2:35 AM

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@next badger Ye well

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https://latouth.com/Game.zip of 400mb.....

keen pawn Jul 24, 2017, 2:35 AM

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if i apply the commit manually

tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 2:35 AM

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Isn't really ideal to send to people

next badger Jul 24, 2017, 2:37 AM

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@keen pawn read the descripton, it's all there

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@tawny brook is that a packaged game?

tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 2:37 AM

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yes

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it is

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or idk tbh

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i just exported it

next badger Jul 24, 2017, 2:37 AM

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@tawny brook have you stripped all the content from it?

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@tawny brook like, all except you're using

tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 2:38 AM

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https://i.latouth.com/2017/VBMcXniI.png

next badger Jul 24, 2017, 2:38 AM

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@tawny brook nope, i mean the ue4 project, it should not have ANY other stuff, like starter's content etc

tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 2:38 AM

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oh

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no starter content

pale remnant Jul 24, 2017, 2:57 AM

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is anyone up?

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 3:26 AM

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Please welcome @toxic vale to the community! :beers:

toxic vale Jul 24, 2017, 3:31 AM

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Greetings, Which channel is recommended using for vehicle question(s)? Rigging odd failures

visual spear Jul 24, 2017, 3:53 AM

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/684330/

Steam

Impromptu Vector Field Painter

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wishlist me maybe

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@ashen brook you ever get a chance to try this thing

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 8:40 AM

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Please welcome @final flicker to the community! :beers:

cloud cobalt Jul 24, 2017, 8:46 AM

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@final flicker A bit early to be promoting your own server

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This is an UE4 support forum, not a gaming community

tender blaze Jul 24, 2017, 8:48 AM

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hi guys

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i have a strange issue

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for a spesific level my perspective viewport is totally black

final flicker Jul 24, 2017, 8:49 AM

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Ok, I'm usually on there working on my UT3 server more than anything. I figured since the bot posted a link to my account and an emoji of some beer mugs that I could probably post a link, but no problem.

tender blaze Jul 24, 2017, 8:49 AM

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it's ok with ortographic mode

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and also works fine with other levels

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any idea what can I do to get my perspective viewport back?

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I've only changed levels

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and if I run the game it works fine also

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though I can only start from an orthographic viewport

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with play - selected viewport

final flicker Jul 24, 2017, 8:52 AM

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@cloud cobalt Do you know of a larger / semi-official Discord server for UT3 development? I'm not qualified to submit code to the UE4 repo, and don't want to start making mods at this early of the dev process.

cloud cobalt Jul 24, 2017, 8:54 AM

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@final flicker I don't, though there is still a UDK community on the forums

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UT4 is completely different (other engine, other language, etc)

final flicker Jul 24, 2017, 8:55 AM

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Thanks. I've done coding and mapping for 2k4, UT3, and UT4, so I'm familiar with the difference... I didn't know if you discussed UE3 here, so I figured I'd ask.

Have a good one.

cloud cobalt Jul 24, 2017, 8:57 AM

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Some people probably did work with UE3, more with UDK. But frankly if you're going into UT modding, the new UT sounds like a much better platform

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UT3 wasn't well received and the current UT is much more fan-driven so the modding will be there

final flicker Jul 24, 2017, 8:58 AM

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I already added the missing Invasion gametype to UT3, with RPG stats, magic weapons, and about 50 mods which is already done... I just started playing with it again since I installed the server browser patch last week.

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 9:27 AM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

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Hey, how can i change a localization font?

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for a specific localization

wary wave Jul 24, 2017, 9:56 AM

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UT3 has hundreds of gigabytes of mod content

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however, it was 10 years ago

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 10:38 AM

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Please welcome @mellow pollen to the community! :beers:

versed rain Jul 24, 2017, 11:07 AM

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damn unreal engine keeps crashing and i don't know what to do 😒

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maybe i should just set a new project and copy all classes but that is kind of stupid

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all this because i deleted a class

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(i think)

paper kernel Jul 24, 2017, 11:17 AM

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this is why you have version control

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so you could roll back to the moment before it all went to hell

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 11:23 AM

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Please welcome @tired locust to the community! :beers:

versed rain Jul 24, 2017, 11:34 AM

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yes... in this case it was all very on the beginning and i'm still a newbie so "why use source control? screw it..:"

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being a seasoned developer, i should've known better ehehe

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 1:21 PM

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Hello, I have questions about Armature, Animation and Material import from Blender to UE4.

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F.e. I have an animation that animates a change of material properties. When I import the animation and the material in UE4, will it work?

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 2:10 PM

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Please welcome @vagrant coral to the community! :beers:

tender blaze Jul 24, 2017, 2:14 PM

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@plush yew you can't export advanced material stuffs

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you need to set up the material inside the engine

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 2:25 PM

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Hey everyone!

Trying to set up fonts for different languages. For example, English is set up fine, but when we change to Russian, it takes a different font that is larger and messes up our widgets. Is there a way to set up fonts per language?

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Please welcome @eager wave to the community! :beers:

dusky chasm Jul 24, 2017, 2:54 PM

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hi! is someone having problems with oculus in packaged games? thanks!

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 3:25 PM

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Please welcome @ebon echo to the community! :beers:

ebon echo Jul 24, 2017, 3:25 PM

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Aloha

tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 3:25 PM

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Welcome @ebon echo

ebon echo Jul 24, 2017, 3:26 PM

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Thank you

tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 3:26 PM

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How long have you been working with UE4?

ebon echo Jul 24, 2017, 3:28 PM

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🤔 I've not been working with it for long, I'm being taught by someone IRL how to do some coding stuff but I have to say I'm not liking it's visual studio integration.

tawny brook Jul 24, 2017, 3:29 PM

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Ahh ok

ebon echo Jul 24, 2017, 3:29 PM

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It just doesn't want to work right for some reason and I'm sure it's our fault but I can't figure out why it is

wary wave Jul 24, 2017, 3:33 PM

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VAX is what you want if you're not using it already

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all hail VAX

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 3:40 PM

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

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Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

willow valve Jul 24, 2017, 3:51 PM

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I know this is a game dev discord server, but I'm totally in love with Fortnite

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I think the theme and all the little things they do with the audio and graphics are super awesome

tall pendant Jul 24, 2017, 3:56 PM

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#lounge is for off topic chat 😄

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 4:28 PM

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Please welcome @raven jungle to the community! :beers:

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 5:59 PM

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Please welcome @ivory lava to the community! :beers:

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:27 PM

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Can someone help me in #umg

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 6:34 PM

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YASSSS

📎 YASSS.JPG

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:35 PM

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😮

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Nice

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@unborn matrix what's it called?

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 6:35 PM

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Dark

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releasing on the 26th

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:35 PM

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Ooo Ima look

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 6:36 PM

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They took forever to approve my build .-.

Got sent back once because of redist stuff, and then it took another 5 days to get approved

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:36 PM

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lol

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Cant find it on Steam :/

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 6:36 PM

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Please welcome @manic gazelle to the community! :beers:

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:36 PM

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Probably haven't updated store yet

paper kernel Jul 24, 2017, 6:38 PM

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quick question: any logic ideas how could I convert class check into enum

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like this

📎 image.png

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if class is A, pick Enum option 0

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B, pick 1

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without doing massssive boolchecklist

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:39 PM

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Umm

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#blueprint

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heh

paper kernel Jul 24, 2017, 6:40 PM

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they seem busy

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but it's not BP question as such, more of a logic

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:40 PM

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Hmm idk

worn granite Jul 24, 2017, 6:40 PM

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There isnt a good way to do that

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Other than a map, maybe

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:40 PM

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Been using UE4 for about a month lol

worn granite Jul 24, 2017, 6:41 PM

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Make a map, see if it works well for you

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:41 PM

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^

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idk

paper kernel Jul 24, 2017, 6:41 PM

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yea that could work

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:42 PM

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But if anyone could help me in #umg that would be greatly appreciated

buoyant echo Jul 24, 2017, 6:50 PM

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@worn granite what exactly is a map in this context?

worn granite Jul 24, 2017, 6:53 PM

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The type

plush yew Jul 24, 2017, 6:54 PM

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Please welcome @strong hearth to the community! :beers:

strong hearth Jul 24, 2017, 6:56 PM

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howdy

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:58 PM

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Howdy

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 6:58 PM

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Hi im back

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working

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http://store.steampowered.com/app/607190/Dark/ @viscid bone

Steam

Dark

Potato Face Games Presents, Dark.

Release Date

Full release coming soon!

▶ Play video

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 6:58 PM

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Ooo yay

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Thx

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Looks cool @unborn matrix

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 6:59 PM

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Thanks !

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 7:00 PM

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You should probably make the screenshots widescreen though

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Some have those borders which take away from the gameplay

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 7:00 PM

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It's VR

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so thats default what the screen looks like

buoyant echo Jul 24, 2017, 7:00 PM

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It's looks really nice. Like the music for it.

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 7:00 PM

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Oh ok, I've never seen VR lol

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 7:01 PM

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@buoyant echo Thanks! My cousin made it

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 7:01 PM

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But it looks cool

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I might buy it if I saw some more gameplay and actually had VR lol

buoyant echo Jul 24, 2017, 7:02 PM

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Wish I had a VR headset to test these things.. Damn.

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 7:02 PM

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You dont need VR to play our game

buoyant echo Jul 24, 2017, 7:02 PM

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Uh yeah you don't.
Doesn't mean I don't wanna flail my hands around knocking down lamps as I try out your game, though.

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 7:02 PM

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You can join in as a normal PC person and like fly around and possess enemies and mess with VR people

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 7:02 PM

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📎 weiojge.PNG

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Noice

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 7:03 PM

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yeah steam has weird stuff about VR

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 7:03 PM

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Oh wait my PC can really not handle it though

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 7:03 PM

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but if you notice in our trailer theres a non vr player with a VR guy

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@viscid bone we have to update specs too

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 7:03 PM

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Yeah

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Oh ok

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 7:03 PM

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because non VR doesnt require what VR requires

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I think it can run on like a 700 series

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 7:04 PM

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Oh ok

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I have 750 ti

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lol

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 7:04 PM

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Yeeee, I haven't tested it on anything lower than a 900 series

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but its all low poly

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and we optimize pretty heavy

buoyant echo Jul 24, 2017, 7:04 PM

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OH NON VR CAN POSESS MONSTERS?!

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 7:04 PM

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Good

buoyant echo Jul 24, 2017, 7:04 PM

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THAT'S SUPER RAD!

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 7:05 PM

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^

unborn matrix Jul 24, 2017, 7:05 PM

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Yeah!

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like

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literally any AI or NPC

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can be non VR

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the final boss (not shown) can be non Vr

viscid bone Jul 24, 2017, 7:05 PM

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That's cool

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@unborn matrix do you know anything about animations?