ue4-general

[safe rose]

I just told him what to change

[cursive dirge]

yeah, but I mentioned how you can solve these things in the future

[safe rose]

Anything with Player, die

True story

[buoyant echo]

I already changed it, and still getting pointer error.

[safe rose]

show me

[cursive dirge]

usually there is no docs for these changes when new version gets out

[buoyant echo]

As for that, spot what's changed? I've not used 4.4

[safe rose]

You probably set it up wrong

https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Programming/Tutorials/PlayerInput/3/index.html

^ look at that

[buoyant echo]

.h file:

.cpp

[cursive dirge]

that should work

[buoyant echo]

I'm following a book's examples. I'll try out the documentation in a little bit, right now I want to figure out how this is wrong so I can learn to better it.

[cursive dirge]

what's the error?

[buoyant echo]

Error GoldenEgg.generated.cpp.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "public: __cdecl AAvatar::AAvatar(class FObjectInitializer const &)" (??0AAvatar@@QEAA@AEBVFObjectInitializer@@@Z)

[worn granite]

You're using the wrong constructor

[buoyant echo]

Oh, what?

[cursive dirge]

that's not related to the input

[worn granite]

no its not

[cursive dirge]

you are looking at the wrong place

[worn granite]

but that's ok

[buoyant echo]

First time doing this outside of BP.. I'm grateful for any help.. ^_^;

[worn granite]

because I betcha if he fixes the constructor the input thing goes away

[safe rose]

@buoyant echo You shoudl do the starter written tutorials then

[worn granite]

Because an unresolved external has nothing to do with his InputComponent

[cursive dirge]

always fix the first reported error first

[safe rose]

Not the book that super old

[fossil ore]

RiP me. I'm dumb as rock

[safe rose]

@fossil ore Nah

[buoyant echo]

Well, I'm getting the same error twice, @cursive dirge

[worn granite]

I was trying to walk Jackie along w/ that

[safe rose]

You're full of air

[fossil ore]

xD

[worn granite]

But yeah apparently I'm just dumb or w/e today

[safe rose]

@buoyant echo I would start off with the official docs which are updated

[cursive dirge]

@buoyant echo doesn't matter what you get after first error, they can often be related due to ue4 macros spamming that stuff

[safe rose]

Then dive into the book

[cursive dirge]

fix the ctor

[buoyant echo]

.<

[cursive dirge]

then wonder about the rest

[buoyant echo]

Should I just straight up delete the actor and then redo it?

[fossil ore]

I have made a very quick model in Blender, I placed light there and when I bake lighting... there is no light in that room @safe rose

[buoyant echo]

(And it's cpp file)

[worn granite]

No

[safe rose]

@fossil ore Is it dynamic?

The light

[cursive dirge]

@buoyant echo can you show your constructor declaration from the header

[safe rose]

@fossil ore Move over to #level-design

And you wierdos

[fossil ore]

oh oh

[safe rose]

Move over to #cpp

[cursive dirge]

@buoyant echo oh wait, you pasted the full header already

[buoyant echo]

Let's continue in Programming

Shwoop~

[shadow geyser]

How do i limit the size of a umg icon?

[plush yew]

i have question

can you make your own modells ot not?

or*

[lament barn]

You can't model in UE4 @plush yew

[plush yew]

i know

but in blender

can you import it?

becuze assets are really expensive for me

[lament barn]

Yes, There is a plugin for Blender to make the Models FBX

Then only you can import those Models to UE4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4JO7vb2Lf0
@plush yew

[plush yew]

thank you man 😃

[lament barn]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmbRYGZQ8B0

This is much more simple

No worries 😄

[plush yew]

hey guys, is it possible to create an own template map, which will be displayed in the new levels window? if yes is there any documentation about it?

[timid grotto]

How come some assets can be selected as references while others can't? Actor reference has no options, but a data asset ref has. Are Data Assets singletons?

Or does that create a new instance?

I'm guessing that it's just selecting a class and creating a new instance of it, with the EditInlineNew property. https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Programming/UnrealArchitecture/Reference/Classes/Specifiers/EditInlineNew/

[glossy flame]

That would be the reason, yep

Actors must be spawned at runtime, you can't just have one exist on the object like that

[plush yew]

Please welcome @tepid surge to the community! :beers:

[tepid surge]

Hey, new here

is this the right place to ask a question or 2 regarding blueprints?

[pallid compass]

yup

or prob #blueprint

[tepid surge]

thanks 😃

[plush yew]

Please welcome @violet crane to the community! :beers:

[pallid solstice]

jeez is it normal that unreal editor crashes every couple mins? or is it just cos of all the random dumb things I'm attempting while learning?

[violet crane]

i imported all the free material into one project about a year ago. this was a big mistake

i couldnt load the editor haha

[glossy flame]

Nothing against you haha, but I'm going to venture towards the latter @pallid solstice

You do get some pretty random crashes every now and then, but the editor isn't super forgiving in making mistakes, especially in C++

[pallid solstice]

I wouldn't be surprised I have a habit of just trying a bunch of random ideas to see what sticks. lots of fun but lots of crashing.

[gloomy helm]

@fierce tulip Ty for retweeting my UE4 meme

[fierce tulip]

id made me chuckle

*itd

[gloomy helm]

I dont even know how I havent followed you on twitter yet

[fierce tulip]

me being an annoying asshat perhaps? :p

[gloomy helm]

Thats pretty much twitter in general

[fierce tulip]

true

[cloud cobalt]

Do people here use Keymailer ?

[gloomy helm]

Never heard of it

Looks really cool though

[tall pendant]

i heard good things about keymailer. @cloud cobalt

[ashen brook]

Is that something like dodistribute?

[tall pendant]

they focus on getting keys into the hands of content creators yeah.

[frank escarp]

https://woovit.com/

ive heard great things about this one

keymailer was very meh

lots of people just putting the keys straight on g2a

so you need to curate that shit, lots of people that are just worthless scammers on keymailer

[cloud cobalt]

KM just started spamming me because the game is on Steam, but i'm being very suspicious of services like that

[frank escarp]

keymailer works

[cloud cobalt]

^ for the reason outlined by @frank escarp

[frank escarp]

but they want you to "subscribe" to their better services

[ashen brook]

are content creators the ones who create content or the ones who make videos about content others have created?

[frank escarp]

free mode is very limited

i want to try the woovit one

got it recomended from someone

[cloud cobalt]

Okay

[plush yew]

Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

[tall pendant]

i dunno how KM defines that. probably the latter 😛 @ashen brook

[upper heart]

does anyone know how foliage is batched? there is nothing that shows which are in which batch. it's such a mystery 🔍

[plush yew]

so all of a sudden I have this bug where all the components of an actor stop being hidden in game. I have a weapon and suddenly I see all the arrows and stuff visible in game. I never change hiddenInGame on any of those so I don't know what to do. Any ideas what might cause such issues?

[sacred crater]

https://puu.sh/wPmoT/39415f20ca.png

New local variables are giving cool bugs

[languid shard]

@sacred crater is it casting correctly though ?

or is it truncating on its own

[sacred crater]

No idea

not gonna test it because I'm sure it's gonna crash the engine

[languid shard]

😂

4.17 ?

[plush yew]

Please welcome @main topaz to the community! :beers:

[sacred crater]

4.16

[wary wave]

you've always been able to do that

(local or otherwise)

[languid shard]

hmm can't replicate 🤔

[sacred crater]

I changed a input of a function to a float fter I spawned the int

[wary wave]

you can usually replicate it by hooking up some vars, then changing their type afterwards

[sacred crater]

^

[languid shard]

it breaks the link on my end

[sacred crater]

Hmm

16.2?

[wary wave]

only works with the basic types

[languid shard]

yeah

I just tried with int + float

[urban salmon]

any of y'all just ADORE AND LOVE editor extensions with slate

[upper heart]

Does anyone understand foliage batching? I place 3 trees with foliage tool and their LODs all update independent of each other. I place 3 stumps with foliage tool and their LODs are all updating at the same time. I can't figure out why it's different between these two meshes 🤕

not much foliage knowledge around it seems

[glacial pollen]

i'm trying to make a material that looks like a grid, by tiling an image of a single grid tile. I'd expect to see options in the details panel to set the number of repeats for my material, but i cant find them. how is this normally done?

grid will be variable size so i want to be able to alter the number of repeats without affecting the base asset

[oblique wharf]

hey this is the standard manniquen using the start anim set is the arms not being attached normal if not how can i fix it

[pallid compass]

anyone got any advise on learning to make icons / reticles and stuff?
Photoshop is feeling super fucking crap for crying to buildany sort of symmetry

[upper heart]

inkscape

[pallid compass]

Whats the licencing on it

[upper heart]

free

and open source

[pallid compass]

full free distribution of content made in it? no commerical issues?

[upper heart]

yes it's completely FREE

[pallid compass]

dam son

im gonna look in too this

thank you

[upper heart]

it's sick too

np

[pallid compass]

dam son

this is nice

Anyone got any advice for fixing jaggered edges? its UI material with a 512x512 image i made, vector to PNG

wth

[vale halo]

It's reasonably smooth. Not 100% sure, but the main issue with that texture is it's resolution. You can't "anti-alias"/make it less jaggered if you aren't storing the pixels telling it how to do it

[pallid compass]

Anyone got any clues why my alpha channel is scattered af?

ahh gotcha

makes sense

[vale halo]

Nope, but that looks really wierd 🤔

There may be a technique to avoid this issue, but I'm not sure about that 😦 I'm not an artist lol

[pallid compass]

just checked in photoshop

its ue4 thats doing that

oh wait wth

no alpha channel in photoshop but there is transparancy

hmm

god dam cant believe im going to have to convert using photoshop to tga

-.-

[upper heart]

set texture group to ui

[cursive dirge]

@pallid compass super easy

[upper heart]

and compressionsettings to userinterface..

for important ui stuff

[pallid compass]

tried both

[cursive dirge]

just use distance fields for that

that way you get to control the alpha amount on the edge

[pallid compass]

ue4 does not like png rn

[cursive dirge]

this generates the DF texture for you: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/svg-importer-plugin

(needs to be a SVG source)

[pallid compass]

hmm i might pick it up ;o

i dont like relying on plugins though for this type of stuff

[cursive dirge]

do note that distance field itself it just single color, but you could apply the gradient with material itself

plugin is only for importing/generating the texture, once the texture is done, it's like any other texture in the engine

[pallid compass]

yeah im aware, but if for some reason support gets cut or w/e it fucks your work flow up

[cursive dirge]

yeah, I guess

although usually code plugins are fairly straight forward to upgrade

sometimes it's little more work if the API changes a lot but even then, it's mostly same changes for all plugins, not usually something that's specific to the plugin itself

I've upgraded substance plugin few times myself when allegorithmic hasn't released their version yet (or I've been on master/custom branch)

[pallid compass]

ahh fair enough u make a good point man

[cursive dirge]

you'd need to understand some c++ stuff though for that

[pallid compass]

its not like its anything major i guess

icon plug for vector

[cursive dirge]

that's basically just a converter, it's just more handy when it's in the editor so you don't have to run that stuff manually

plus there isn't really any as quick free DF converter around

I actually convinced that dev to add support for DFs before he released that

[pallid compass]

oh nice haha

[cursive dirge]

the tool I was using before, was pretty tedious to use

[pallid compass]

i guess u could do this

and colour mask the file

if u want to colour / gradiant

or anything

[cursive dirge]

I had to convert SVGs first into TTF fonts, then font into distance field 😄

[pallid compass]

colour id*

[cursive dirge]

yeah

you get gradient directly from UV

just need to multiply that by color or use lerp for the start and end color

it's super cheap in the end

same with the distance field math needed for the shaders, it's not complex at all

[pallid compass]

true true

[cursive dirge]

for single channel DF, simplest thing can be just single IF node, if you need alpha you need little more, for multichannel DF you need to get the median but that's only few math operations as well (there's example for that)

[pallid compass]

pretty nice way to do things

[cursive dirge]

you can use those DF's to make sharp masks for everything really

you are not bound by the texture resolution at all

[pallid compass]

sounds like really clean UI's

[cursive dirge]

don't mind the stupid texture settings on that one

it should be in linear space

[pallid compass]

jesus thats jaggy af

[cursive dirge]

and you can omit mips from that so that shape is actually 16 Kb total

jaggy?

there's no alpha in the borders in that, it's just simple if node there as I wanted sharp mask

[pallid compass]

ah

[cursive dirge]

wonder if I still have that project around

[frank escarp]

woah thats fucking neat

i think it was Valve the first to do this kind of thing

they used distance fields for the text on some billboards

[cursive dirge]

yeah, they used that in TF2

[frank escarp]

in team fortress

but their was single channel

[cursive dirge]

that's where the orignal paper about this is too

[frank escarp]

they did offer a possibility of making it multichannel, but didnt use it

[pallid compass]

id love too see how they made the paragon UI, its clean AF

[cursive dirge]

same tech is actually used in UE4's fonts

[frank escarp]

yup

[cursive dirge]

they are single channel DFs

[frank escarp]

could still use multichannel DFs

for more complicated fonts

[cursive dirge]

https://github.com/Chlumsky/msdfgen

that's the tool I used to use in past, but it's SVG support is really bad

[pallid compass]

nvm found it lmao

[frank escarp]

hey from where is that?

link plz

i like those kind of presentations

[pallid compass]

http://www.cgmeetup.net/home/making-of-paragon/

i love how they used 2d widgets for the health bars

[cursive dirge]

that's curious

[pallid compass]

and stuff

such low draw calls

[cursive dirge]

because I got impression Nick Darnell didn't know about DF use in UE4 UI's when I asked him about it

[frank escarp]

includes some ps4 stuff, fuking neat

[cursive dirge]

just found it by accident that you can do that alpha thing on UMG to soften things out

[frank escarp]

im already getting mad gains in my ps4 game due to the paragon optimizations

thats why ue4 is reaaaaally fast on ps4

[pallid compass]

go epic gooo

[frank escarp]

ah, yeah, the fast path on animation

[pallid compass]

man i really need to go learn all about the Dbuffer, and BasePass etc

[frank escarp]

this part is fucking serious on ps4

ps4 gets mad gains over pc with dx11

[safe rose]

it has no choice

[pallid compass]

we all just praying for stable dx12

@cursive dirge You got any experiance with creating UMG's with boarder widget?

[cursive dirge]

boarder?

[pallid compass]

border*

umg border widget

[cursive dirge]

I don't really know what you mean by that

[pallid compass]

have u used it before?

[cursive dirge]

if there's a thing called border widget then probably not

[pallid compass]

ahh fair enough

omfg

just found most amazing thing ever

[safe rose]

Border is 9 slicer

[pallid compass]

someone put up something called

[cursive dirge]

oh, so it just combines 9 images

[pallid compass]

SCUE$ anti cheat solution

and the first comment is

[cursive dirge]

@safe rose why is there 9th?

[pallid compass]

"

LOL

[safe rose]

Border/9Slice is something from UI Design

[pallid compass]

omfg sobbin

[safe rose]

Where if you scale. The borders do not stretch

[cursive dirge]

@pallid compass what is that?

yeah, I get the idea

[pallid compass]

installs UE4 free market place anti cheat system
cant open project

poor guy haha

[safe rose]

They dynamically add to the sides

In the middle usually

[cursive dirge]

you get same images in the corners and stretch only the middle parts

[safe rose]

So the corners don't look stupid

[cursive dirge]

or tile or whatever

depends on how you do it

[safe rose]

Aye, tiling is a Better way to say it

[pallid compass]

look up SCUE4 anti cheat on the market place 10/10

[cursive dirge]

well, I'd not trust user reviews

[pallid compass]

its just kinda funny thats all haha

[cursive dirge]

people do pretty stupid things sometimes 😄

sometimes there's some truth to them but you shouldn't trust them blindly

[pallid compass]

just looking too see if anything work buying while the sale is on

[cursive dirge]

there used to be some free anticheat toolkit

ah

that was it

well, 100% off is a good deal

[pallid compass]

alot the plugins i see rright now are just like no, its stuff u can already do in engine

like "dialogue plugin"

[cursive dirge]

really?

[pallid compass]

auto save plugin

[cursive dirge]

there isn't really a plug'n'play dialogue thing in ue4

you've also always had option to save

[pallid compass]

u could build it in UMG easy af

omfg

theres a

[cursive dirge]

yeah but that's not why these things exist

[pallid compass]

Six DOF movement

[cursive dirge]

they exist because people want everything done ready for them

[pallid compass]

there is a tutorial on six dof on the website or wiki omg

ahh fair enough

[cursive dirge]

(I don't agree it's a good route)

[pallid compass]

well imo

u wann make a game right

u cant buy stuff like that

If you dont understand how it works

How u gonna fix issues

[cursive dirge]

yeah, there are both sides to it

[pallid compass]

mix for disaster imo

but some market stuff place is really good

[cursive dirge]

I'm kinda guy who has very little trust in marketplace blueprintcoders skills

[pallid compass]

same

only thing i trust is epic tbh

[cursive dirge]

well, have you seen THEIR blueprints? 😄 😄

[pallid compass]

&allah, sion, lethal & kris :p

[cursive dirge]

like, check some RyanB's stuff

like, man's a wizard but I wouldn't want to touch his blueprints

to be fair, the messy parts are the tech demos and things he has just prototyped with

[pallid compass]

i mean for example

if u had something like the vehicle movement comp plugin

if it was like £5

id buy it

too see how they handle it

and learn from it

but not £30

just an example

as that thing can handle like 8 wheels or something i think

[cursive dirge]

well, those tend to be a lot more actually

£5 is not really enough when you compare what else you get with that price

[pallid compass]

wth there is a plugin for brain computer interface what

true

[cursive dirge]

at least, if you do it properly, it's easily 6 months of research for that

[pallid compass]

but im talking if u just wanted to learn

[cursive dirge]

then we have some sellers in marketplace that think they should get $100 for the asset because they spend 10 hours learning how to do it (and finished in the same total time)

[pallid compass]

lmao

i know what u mean

but its issue with people buying

there is like 4 json plugins

and varest is by far the best

[cursive dirge]

in general, proper code assets are way underpriced if you consider the amount of work they require

[pallid compass]

and people have bought the other ones like what

[cursive dirge]

yeah, people buy cheap stuff

and it shows when you look at steam greenlights finest 😄

[pallid compass]

omg haha yeah

omg there is ik foot systems for sale on the market place

menu systems wth

This is the first time iv browsed it properly in like a year

[cursive dirge]

you can sell pretty much everything there

[pallid compass]

radar thats kinda cool

its £6

kinda wann buy it too learn from it 😂

[cursive dirge]

always worth doing few google searches before

[pallid compass]

true true

just being lazy i guess 😂

[cursive dirge]

there's usually some free tutorial for the exact same thing

[pallid compass]

omg

£34 elevator system

3 buyers

i dont even

[cursive dirge]

like mentioned, you can sell everything

[pallid compass]

thats amazing haha

[buoyant echo]

Some people just don't want to do the work 😃

[cursive dirge]

some sell even LUT packs

that's something I don't really understand

[pallid compass]

o_O

[cursive dirge]

as color grading should be based on the actual scene you have, not for some prebuilt tints you slap into it

[pallid compass]

i suck with colour grading

wth theres a neural network lmao

That reminds me just seen a energy shield thingy

I need to find out how you can create ripples on energy shields

[buoyant echo]

That's one thing I've been thinking about.

[plush yew]

Please welcome @solemn path to the community! :beers:

[pallid compass]

i assume its on hit

get space

then do something with transparancy

on the shield uvs

[plush yew]

Please welcome @astral compass to the community! :beers:

[plush yew]

Please welcome @verbal prairie to the community! :beers:

[plush yew]

Please welcome @thorn sky to the community! :beers:

Please welcome @frank glen to the community! :beers:

[pallid compass]

so it turns out having a UMG widget as a cursor with slow rotation

is sapping 50 fps from me

[cloud cobalt]

How many milliseconds ?

FPS values are useless without context - going from 350fps to 300 means nothing

[pallid compass]

erm il check now

[cloud cobalt]

That's why all profiling data is in ms

[pallid compass]

plummted from 120 ish to 50?

[cloud cobalt]

In editor, or in standalone ? Editor is really harsh on Slate/UMG

[pallid compass]

editor seperate instance

never had this much of a hard hit before

il check stand alone

[cloud cobalt]

That's still editor, try toggling thisin standalone, and measure the ms difference in "stat unit"

[pallid compass]

alright

[cloud cobalt]

The reason milliseconds are a better measure is, if you target 60fps you have a 16.7ms, and losing for example 1.7ms is always 10% of the budget, no matter how low or high the framerate

By contrast, you can't say "I lost 50fps" or "I gained 30fps" because that value depends on itself

[pallid compass]

gotcha

the fuck

140 fps now?

okay wth

its not making any difference now

that was weird

[cloud cobalt]

In editor it might depend on whether the widget was saved or shitty stuff like that

[pallid compass]

ahh

im actually looking to get in too slate soon

seams really nice

[cloud cobalt]

What I have to do is get into UMG some day, still haven't really tried actual work with it

[plush yew]

Please welcome @craggy magnet to the community! :beers:

[pallid compass]

the idea of super low cost world space GUI sounds really nice too me

2d meshs used for floating hp bars

[cloud cobalt]

I doubt UMG has a high cost overhead onto Slate tbh - It's really Slate with Blueprints, and BP hasn't that much of a perf cost

[pallid compass]

well i spoke too the guy

who made the UI for paragon

i always forget his name

[cloud cobalt]

Nick ? 😄

[pallid compass]

😂

yeah nick

[cloud cobalt]

Yeah he's great

[pallid compass]

and i was asking how i could optimise like

up too 100 umg widgets on screen

being floating bars

response was pretty much

its gonna be super expensive

[cloud cobalt]

http://helium-rain.com/gallery_data/dashboard.jpg

:-°

[pallid compass]

You made that?

[cloud cobalt]

Yeah it's one of the menus in our game, progress bars everywhere 😃

[pallid compass]

yeah progress bars are fine but

100 ish progress bars in widget components

in world space

is a no

[cloud cobalt]

Probably

[pallid compass]

yeah well

its 2 progress bars as well

so 200 bars

😂

so im looking towards slate

[cloud cobalt]

I guess you're doing health/ability bars on a MOBA or something like that

[pallid compass]

Just health and shields

[safe rose]

@cloud cobalt sexy ass

[cloud cobalt]

Thanks

[pallid compass]

oops

just crashed my editor

tried using frens node inside a UI material

did not go well

[plush yew]

is anyone

working on a project now

Please welcome @sinful wave to the community! :beers:

[plush yew]

Please welcome @swift hull to the community! :beers:

[little fulcrum]

Hi, sorry to ask here but something just happened and it glitched out my lightning

http://i.imgur.com/KATHsBn.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rLgumxk.png

empty log

After rebuilding

nvm

changed all the lights from stationary to static and room lighted up again, that shouldn't happen though

nvm again

builded again and it redid the glitch

i think i saw something with shadowmap earlier?

somehow i fixed it

by setting even more things to static

but now the chair is glitched

[plush yew]

hi guys

who is working on a project now

[little fulcrum]

whaddaya mean

[plush yew]

cnai join

can i join

[little fulcrum]

what do you mean with a project, like a fully fledged project or just something to do in spare time

[plush yew]

fully fledged

project

i wana work with someone on the project

on unreal engine

the 4

[little fulcrum]

I'm just doing something in spare time to learn so i don't think that qualifies

[plush yew]

o

can i do it

with you

[little fulcrum]

I don't think you'll get much out of it, i'm pretty new

[plush yew]

oh ok

[worn granite]

Not an offer to bring you on to anything, but you should indicate your role and if you want to try taking it on yourself or if you want a mentor

And you should do some solo work while you seek a project, I think.

[buoyant echo]

Agreed with @worn granite

[worn granite]

Oh, also. If you put more effort in showing your current skills, you'll probably get more/better offers

[safe rose]

Or sometimes too many

[worn granite]

its a nice problem to have

[next ivy]

I really wish there was another free modeling program. Blender doesn't work with me and 3DS Max is like no for an Indie

[safe rose]

Free

Always comes at a price

Scrunge some money

Get MayaLT or MODO Indie

Be happy

[next ivy]

I mean a ton of people love Blender more than 3DS Max

The workflow is just too messy for me

[pallid compass]

fuck 3ds max

lmao

250$ a month or something

for broken piece of software

[next ivy]

3DS Max is beautiful and works great. Autodesk just refuses to make an indie license

[pallid compass]

man so many issues with maya

and max

if u dont 100% know ur work flow

u can fuck so much stuff up

its unreal

Prime example, if i change lambert's in maya, via RBG 1 scale, the first one changes fine, if i decide to change a second one using RBG1 scale

it changes both of them

so stupid man its unreal

[next ivy]

As opposed to Blender where you have to know how to do 100% of everything because there's no way to figure it out as you go.

[pallid compass]

wat

imo blender is 1000% more friendly than max and maya

maya is the nicest imo, then blender than max

[small basin]

Hey, I wanna try make procedural terrain in UE4. Using noise maps on a terrain isn't working out for me as I want to be able to do more, like caves, so I'm thinking voxel terrain is my best option. Anyone know any good startingpoints (or tutorials)?

[pallid compass]

but from using all 3

auto desk runs like crap

[next ivy]

Like I said, it's personal preference. 3DS Max just works naturally to me while Blender is totally crazy

[pallid compass]

did u grow up on max?

[next ivy]

FYI Autodesk owns both Maya and Max

[pallid compass]

i know

[next ivy]

No, I learned both at the same time

[pallid compass]

there both crappy products for price

I grew up on max and shifted to maya after a taste of it

[floral heart]

They used to be the only products, price or no.

[pallid compass]

yeah i know, crappy times

ugh sorry i love chatting but i gotta run

[next ivy]

Maya is still expensive. And Maya LT to my knowledge does not include valid animation tools

[pallid compass]

misses is calling

[next ivy]

Good luck

Ok looking at some of the Maya LT vs Maya features makes me mad. It's clear they purposely took out content from LT. Things like PSD file support, why would you not allow that

[next ivy]

Silo looks intriguing.

[olive raft]

hello

Can you post pics in here?

[buoyant echo]

To anyone who uses mixamo:

http://blogs.adobe.com/adobecare/2017/05/23/download-assets-from-mixamo/

August 22'nd

[thick ridge]

Thanks Jackie. I have a lot of characters on Mixamo

[buoyant echo]

Not a problem~

[unreal plover]

what channel is good for asking about replication stuffs?

[frosty bloom]

Multiplayer

[unreal plover]

Ah, didn't saw it at first. Thanks for pointing it out!

[plush yew]

Please welcome @modest rapids to the community! :beers:

[rotund jacinth]

I'm having an issue i haven't run into before. Mirroring with scale -1 in unreal always worked for me in the past, no inverted normals. this hand works correctly when I do it in the editor: http://i.imgur.com/VS0U3kR.jpg

but when I add it to the motion controller BP (which is later mirrored on construction to make left and right hands) I get inverted normals on the flipped copy
It's a little hard to tell in this screenshot but that hand isn't upside down. The normals are inverted: http://i.imgur.com/orTnXAm.jpg

[tawdry quail]

what was the command to snap an actor to the axis constraints again? Control alt end?

[livid haven]

Tangential, but woop woop! https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/directx/2017/07/21/gpus-in-the-task-manager/

Task manager in Windows will now show GPU stats.

[polar hawk]

^It only took all these versions of windows

[livid haven]

Fair. But I'm still glad to hear the news!

[polar hawk]

Open Launcher

12 acwebbrowser.exe processes

k

[olive raft]

Anyone have a good ak 47 gun model?

[livid haven]

Yeah, launcher is a glorified browser.

I hate that kind of software design choice, but I get it - easier to have one unified UI and backend for the marketplace since it's got to be both web accessible and desktop accessible.

Slack, too, has a glorified web browser for a native client.

[polar hawk]

Thing is, its mostly not a unified UI xD

But that aside

Is Fortnite down? :o

Figured I'd hop in and I either don't have the founder early access or I do and something is wrong, but I can't get clarification on either

[thorn topaz]

there's 19k people watching fortnite on twitch so it doesn't seem so

[polar hawk]

Aye, reddit/twitter has people yelling about how servers are down

And they can't log in

But my launch button is grey'd out completely :o

I assume that means I don't have the founder's version

But if I click pre-order, it takes me to Launch

[thorn topaz]

that may be it

[polar hawk]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Now I've never paid money for Fortnite, I've never pre-ordered

I beta'd long, long, long ago

People say that those who beta'd have the founders pack

Which makes sense because the pre-order does nothing for me

I'm so confused

[thorn topaz]

maybe they just don't want you to play specifically?

[polar hawk]

That is fair

[thorn topaz]

hahaha

[polar hawk]

Fornite pages say join us on Discord, Twitch, Reddit

Twitch and Reddit have links

Discord does not

<_<

[thorn topaz]

#tooesclusive

[polar hawk]

Fortnite -> Discord channel -> Send a support ticket

I will figure this out <_<

Ahahaha are you fucking kidding me

Fortnite support -> If you’re interested in playing Fortnite, you can purchase a Founder’s Pack

I thought thats what I was doing by clicking the pre-order button

I swear

[livid haven]

🤷 I just work there (but remotely as not an employee)

[polar hawk]

Aye

[livid haven]

I can say that internal peeps are aware of the PLANET CRUSHING LOAD happening right now.

And that the load may or may not have literally destroyed things.

Trust me, internal peeps already sent the "WTF I can't log in" e-mails before anyone else got to. 😛

As for Discord links or whatever, I dunno. Uh... I could probably ping someone?

[polar hawk]

I found a discord link through the reddit

So thats fine I suppose

Guess I'll just go back to coding xD

Can't play because didn't pre-order

Can't pre-order because I own it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[livid haven]

Weird...

[plush yew]

Please welcome @serene ibex to the community! :beers:

[plush yew]

Please welcome @serene bluff to the community! :beers:

[serene bluff]

Hi all! Glad to be here 😃

[maiden swift]

o/

[wispy silo]

anyone know how to change the opacity of a sprite?

[whole quarry]

morning

[cursive dirge]

so

fortnight is that cheap

€149.99 for full edition

thanks but no thanks :p

[whole quarry]

150? 😐

[cursive dirge]

that's limited edition

it does come with 2 giftable starter editions 😄

but yeah, bare bones version is €39.99 but looking at all the things they left out, that's probably not enjoyable to play against those other boosted players

they have €60 and €90 tiers too

lots of exclusivity here on include lists :p

if they are going to cripple the cheapest tier, why didn't they just make it f2p anyway

(I know, servers cost)

[whole quarry]

I miss the days where any copy of a game was the full edition and you had to play it trough to unlock stuff

[polar hawk]

Exclusive stuff isn't so great, but it does reduce grinding

Fortnite is 100% grind

[whole quarry]

In my theory, horrible grinding is invented to make shortcut by payment more attractive

[paper kernel]

nothing bad making game grindy

but they usually forget to make the grinding fun

actual fun is hidden behind those late game OP equipment or skills

[whole quarry]

"Skip this boss fight for just $5!"

[polar hawk]

I will be playing most of the night though, /shrug

[paper kernel]

allthou, even worse than paying to skip bossfights

game launchers that spy on your computer

I really wanted to try this new game Gigantic

I got the launcher in, 2 new background tasks running

before I even installed the game

or started the launcher

[cursive dirge]

"[10:50 AM] Remco: In my theory, horrible grinding is invented to make shortcut by payment more attractive" exactly

which is why I'll never support that crap

it's cancer and it spreads

and like ctzn mentioned, grinding itself isn't the issue here

real issue if the gameplay is designed to encourage people to buy more stuff

of course it's just business to these immoral people who make these decisions

although me despising them will most likely change nothing 😄

if the game is F2P to begin with, it's more acceptable but even then, only handful of people do it right

[paper kernel]

like, BF3 was grindy too, but most people didn't mind

most of the vehicle upgrades were kinda reward for learning how to play the said vehicle effectively

[grave nebula]

Lineage 2 was grindy

[plush yew]

Please welcome @austere spear to the community! :beers:

[cursive dirge]

Mad Max was grindy too

no microtransactions though

they did have preorder car body though

[plush yew]

Please welcome @humble lake to the community! :beers:

[weary hull]

i blame gamers, if they didn't buy 'special editions' then companies wouldn't think they can charge $100+ for a game

[whole quarry]

Sure, always blame it on the consumer 😛

[plush yew]

is there a way to select the controller of a selected mob? https://i.gyazo.com/518c1503fd4bf651fd53efb86fac5c65.png

[paper kernel]

working on movable 3D-Marquee brush tool and holy balls my brain hurts from all this vector manipulation

[plush yew]

Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

hi there

I'm a total noob to UE4 and I wonder if I will use Unity or UE4 for 3d games. Statistics said UE4 would be better but I could not find any footage of something like the following be done in UE4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwc2-iYSVPc

[paper kernel]

Perfectly doable, as long as you know the right shader magic to cast

[frank glen]

I just found a russian website where all paid assets from marketplace are free to download xd looool

[paper kernel]

yea but they probably miss the key part

[frank glen]

nah

[paper kernel]

which is the text file containing licence to use them

[frank glen]

they're all working

I just downloaded FPS template and FPS Weapon Pack Vol3

and its working

xd

[paper kernel]

sure, but you can't use any of them for anything without risking a legal battle

[frank glen]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[paper kernel]

usually game companies that rip off assets go bankrupt ¯_(ツ)_/¯

end of career thing, so I don't suggest trying it

[frank glen]

idc, Im not a game company xd

[plush yew]

Please welcome @dire cosmos to the community! :beers:

[paper kernel]

but the thing is, nobody will hire a dev with reputation of stealing assets, because they don't want to risk their own project

[scenic stirrup]

Hi guys

[frank glen]

yo

[scenic stirrup]

Would any one know how to scale the UE4 standard vehicle from the Advanced Vehicle blueprint, to make it appear like a mini RC car.

Evertime i scale the vehicle now, the car wont move anymore, i think because the physical skeletan or spmething gets messed up.

So anyone try to scale that standard car to a small rc size car, and tell me how to do it?

[paper kernel]

you probably have to do a custom vehicle with it's own skeleton to match the desired size

or, do some camera-lense magic and scale up the world around the vehicle

[cursive dirge]

@plush yew UE4 does most of those things out of the box

I mean, built-in things for subsurface scattering, POM, animated emission. For dynamic snow and wetness you need to do your own things but there are plenty of examples and tutorials around for both

[paper kernel]

weather-wear and stuff is pretty simple really, just calculate some world space normals and add effect accordingly

like, moss texture on rock would be face normal Z < 0.4 * noise

or something like that

[lost ember]

You know Discord TOS disallow piracy

:[

[plush yew]

Please welcome @nimble totem to the community! :beers:

[nimble totem]

Excited to be here!

[cloud cobalt]

@grave nebula Just reported IronicParadox, again

The guy is the actually worst person I ever saw on the forum

[frank escarp]

@cloud cobalt link?

i can have a look

[buoyant echo]

I hope he gets banned.

(The pirate, idk who that other guy is)
But if youre going to pirate so freely, you dont deserve any dev help.

Stealing from real people, who try to make a living with these things. And they basically sell their stuff for pennies because everyone puts it on sale. Ridiculous!

[frank escarp]

i mean at least dont go flaunting it

and, of course, fucking NEVER use it in a real project

technically if the owner discovers you are pirating it, he can sue the fuck out of you

[buoyant echo]

Mhm.

[frank escarp]

ive pirated a couple packs myself to decide if they were worth it, as i wasnt sure with only the pictures

given that i do VR stuff, sometimes if i get a FX pack i dont know if it will look good

[grave nebula]

@cloud cobalt Well, obviously he is a bit troubled and can't let it go. Happens. 😃

[frank escarp]

im sure those scammers in steam that spam games made with 2-3 unity packs dont even buy those packs

[cloud cobalt]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?133869-Dynamic-shadows-artifacts&p=740107#post740107

@frank escarp

[buoyant echo]

@frank escarp i believe thats the only reason, and its still iffy, to pirate. As sort of a test trial.

[grave nebula]

Pirating packs and openly admitting it is a bit off and does not do anything positive in long-time perspective to be fair

[frank escarp]

@cloud cobalt whats the issue with it?

[cloud cobalt]

@frank escarp IronicParadox has been on this thread for weeks now, basically telling people that theyre are precious snowflakes for wanting that bug getting away

[buoyant echo]

Not only that, you admit to not caring about any other dev, and their work, or attempt to make a living. You also probably are one of those people who say exposure is a form of payment.

[frank escarp]

i dont think that is against the rules

being annoying definitely isnt

[cloud cobalt]

Well half his message were removed two weeks ago

And he's still being an ass

But okay

I wish there was a "100% professional" rule on these forums, it's supper annoying to try working with serious people and have a 5-years old yell about how Call of Duty has the issue so it musk be okay

[frank escarp]

such a rule would be completely unenforceable and if it was enforced it would be literal "nazi mods"

[cloud cobalt]

Yeah

Well, gonna just stop following that thread

Actually I think what I want is UDN access 😃

[verbal prairie]

question about performance of the editor. At the moment my project is stored on a SSD but UE is installed on a normal HD.
Will I see improved build/compile time when I install it on my SSD?

[surreal viper]

I don't think so, but the engine startup would be faster

[verbal prairie]

does putting the project on SSD make a big difference?

[cloud cobalt]

In C++ build time, yes

[weary hull]

wont help much with shader compiling

[verbal prairie]

ok thx

so project on SSD, engine doesn;t really matter

[cloud cobalt]

Engine would matter very much if built from source

Else not much

[weary hull]

I wonder how fast c++ compiling gets if you have project in a ram disk

[surreal viper]

I don't think it would matter much

[verbal prairie]

is there a "best practice" for what you should do in blueprint and what you should do in c++?

[cursive dirge]

don't think, measure instead

even from switching everything from HDD (including VS, UE sources, SDKs) into SSD gave me 3x speedup on engine compile times at UE 4.2

haven't redone the test in current UE

[cloud cobalt]

@verbal prairie Low-level technical stuff, C++ ; high-level gameplay features that are iterated on over and over , Blueprint

[surreal viper]

he wasn't talking about compiling the engine,

[cursive dirge]

I vote for everything/most in either c++ or BP

[surreal viper]

bp vs c++: try to use both extensively to get a feeling of them, it's a bit subjective

but not using one of the two because not even knowing them leads to wrong results imho

[verbal prairie]

I'm getting used the to concepts and at the moment I am impressed with the node editor but it doesn't feel intuitive

[cloud cobalt]

Also I would say - use C++ as much as you're confortable with, and if you're not confortable with the language, don't use it

[cursive dirge]

yeah

[cloud cobalt]

It's the most dangerous language there is

[verbal prairie]

it feels more like they designed a node editor for declerative programming... but even then some concepts are a bit weird

[cursive dirge]

use the one that you have good workflow in

[surreal viper]

not with unreal tho, we have garbage collection and everything 😄

[cloud cobalt]

Well, sure, but actually it's only safe if you understand what's at stake @surreal viper

Plenty of UE users have no idea what a dangling pointer is for example

[cursive dirge]

GC alone doesn't make the language safe

[cloud cobalt]

See discussion on #cpp right now

[surreal viper]

I like to use BP on top of my own c++ classes and for smaller stuff, but when e.g. an actor needs a state machine that always ends up being a c++ class 😄

[verbal prairie]

and things like camera control, input control

I've seen some good BPs to control them without having to write much code. That seems really nice and often easier than writing complex stuff in c++

[verbal prairie]

any good books someone can recommend for UE4? I looked on amazon but most of them (usually from Packt) get bad reviews...

[plush yew]

@cursive dirge @paper kernel Thanks for the info, appreciate it!

[midnight mantle]

whoa there's a MARKETPLACE SALE GOING ON RIGHT NOW?!

WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME

[cursive dirge]

I wasn't hyped over it 😄

found absolutely nothing I would have wanted to buy

[sacred crater]

Heh, on a scroll box SetScrollOffset doesn't clamp to min and max scroll of the content

Useful

[pale remnant]

hello

[verbal prairie]

Is there a way in VS to help with the header includes? Now I have to look which header what class is in for the include...

[dim arch]

hey guys is there a fortnight discord?

[midnight mantle]

isn't it still under NDA?

[dim arch]

Nope, It went live yday

[midnight mantle]

oh nice

should make the discord yourself

👍

[dim arch]

I would, However I am moving to China next week so don't have the time to monitor it

[midnight mantle]

should make it anyways xD

no effort required to make a new one

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dim arch]

Seems like I found a glitch

I'm stuck on a quest to level up my char to progress, except I don't have the required level points

ah you can do a mission outside the tutorial to level up

[plush yew]

Please welcome @plush yew to the community! :beers:

can someone explain the new asset management stuff to me? havent really found any clear info on it... wondering where we're at on moddability

I mean, "The Asset Manager now has Blueprint access and is ready for production. The Asset Manager is a global object that can be used to discover, load, and audit Maps and game-specific asset types in the editor or at runtime." sounds perfect, but not clear on how to use it

Please welcome @peak solar to the community! :beers:

[peak solar]

Hi :)

[paper briar]

I ran into some problem but knowing me it should be an easy fix.

Yesterday I installed Unreal Engine on my secondary PC.

After it downloaded and setup and whatsoever, I was greeted with a "Needs updates to continue" page.

Underneath it there was a green button that counted down from a certain number and said continue.

So I pressed it and it went to the update.

Approx 24.7 mb.

After it downloaded it went to the login page.

Before I could start typing it went back to the "Needs update" page.

So assuming it need another update, I did the same as above.

But the update was the same size.

So it was a giveaway that it was redoing the same update.

So I figured it was a problem with permissions.

I disabled my firewall and ran it as administrator.

To no avail.

I then tried to let the button run down, but it just went to the same exact update page.

(All of this was inside of the launcher)

Any suggestions?

Is my download corrupt?

[plush yew]

Please welcome @rare patio to the community! :beers:

[glossy flame]

@paper briar does the launcher let you verify the engine install at this state?

If it does, I would try that.

(in the dropdown menu of the engine version)

[paper briar]

Nah, I haven't even signed in yet.

[glossy flame]

(in the dropdown menu of the engine version)

Oh, so did you install the launcher or the engine?

[paper briar]

Yeah, the first time I opened it, it brought me to the landing page, but the second time I opened it, it brought me to this

And I don't have an engine version installed yet.

[glossy flame]

Oh, I just assumed that from when you said "I installed Unreal Engine" haha, I don't really like the ecosystem setup either

[paper briar]

Would you reccomend a reinstall?

[glossy flame]

Hmm, I think I'd be of less help with the launcher itself, maybe try a reinstall?

[paper briar]

See where that takes me?

[glossy flame]

Yeah, try that

[paper briar]

Ok, I'll get back to you on the results.

[pale remnant]

Someone tell me why my ammo is shooting to the side of my gunhttp://prntscr.com/fyxr4h

[surreal viper]

most likely because the spawn position/velocity isn't setup correctly

[topaz kettle]

ps4 controller supported for engine use?

did you get Weapon Mesh-----> then socket transform connected it to spawn projectile class?

[surreal viper]

I have about 80 projectile alive at a time, I keep spawning and destroying them all the time
yet the the fps is becoming worse and worse...

[topaz kettle]

life time?

[surreal viper]

MoveComponent(Primitive)Time is increasing and the CallCount is crazy

lifetime is set properly

[topaz kettle]

10?

[surreal viper]

and the actors are actually destroyed

I can see in the world outliner

[topaz kettle]

projectile movement

[surreal viper]

max 40 actor alive at the same time from the bullet

[topaz kettle]

intial speed and max speed?

[surreal viper]

setup correctly, but that hardly makes any difference

[topaz kettle]

what is your LifeSpan?

[surreal viper]

10 sec

but I see them being destroyed in the world outliner, that's the fun part

also I tried to reproduce this in an empty level with the same spawners and that just did not happen, it's really wtf

[topaz kettle]

can you screen shot me your screen

probably bug

[plush yew]

Please welcome @brave kelp to the community! :beers:

[surreal viper]

btw I did not change anything regarding projectiles and it used to work before 😢

[humble rivet]

hi

[pale remnant]

http://prntscr.com/fyy0gu these setting look ok?

[humble rivet]

Is 'embed media' enabled in unreal engine when you export a mesh as FBX?

[glossy flame]

@surreal viper if you're using that many individual actors I would look into using a pool

Just the act of spawning actors is pretty expensive

(when you're doing it a lot in a short amount of time)

[surreal viper]

thx, that's a perfect idea for the projectiles

or im not sure about the memory management here

[humble rivet]

anyone ?

[surreal viper]

spawning should not take much time, cause it's not that much a single frame, but... what about memory fragmentation?

is spawning actor is like calling new, or does the engine do something about that?

[glossy flame]

Yeah, it needs to instance a new object, add it to the engine internal tracking, perform all of its initialization tasks...it's just best to avoid spawning actors super often

And example I know of is the VR example project.

Every tick when you're using the teleportation arc it creates brand new actors/components (not sure which one)

When you aim it high up so you have a lot of meshes, your FPS grinds to 0

It's pretty bad, haha

If that few projectiles is already impacting your FPS, there might be an issue there for sure

[surreal viper]

okay, i'll create my actor pool, but first I have to figure this problem out 😄

nah something is wrong, i have 40 projectile but the movement component tick call count is 800

also the projectile num stays the same the tick call count increases

fps goes down, game is playable in the first 3 minutes 😄

[glossy flame]

Hmm, GC only runs every minute I believe, but if the projectile is destroyed it should stop ticking

[surreal viper]

idk what that call count is in the profiler window, I placed breakpoint with hit counter, call count is said to be 1400 now, but the function was only called 50 times 😢

[glossy flame]

Could it be a collective count?

I haven't used the debugging tools extensively

[surreal viper]

nope, cause the world tick is 2

and stays like that

very same spawners and projectiles did not cause trouble in another level, now I'll try to remove and replace them
also the stuff is something engine bug related imho, these spawners were placed for months, I think I have this problem since the last engine update (4.16.2)

[glossy flame]

Well, you said it didn't happen in a new level, and the call is only "MoveComponent" (not specifically projectile movement component), so are you sure the projectiles are actually the issue?

Does the issue cease if you remove the spawner?

[surreal viper]

nope, if I removed all the spawners the game worked without a problem

[glossy flame]

Hmmmmmm.

I'm not really sure at this point, then.

[topaz kettle]

check shooter game example

[pale remnant]

Anyone know about projectiles?

[surreal viper]

lol, removing the spawners new ones in the level from the same type using the same projectile solves the problem

only problem is that now i have to reposition them again and I have to reinit the timing data again, damn

[tawny brook]

Why doesn't the UE4 marketplace accept PayPal balance ;/

well

fuck

[harsh tiger]

Hi guys, sometimes when I drag a file into the file explorer for my game it doesnt come up with import in the bottom right sometimes. It just happens randomly and i was wondering does anyone know why

[pale remnant]

Anyone a pro with gun shaping to character

http://prntscr.com/fyz5gf this is the best i could do

When I play it looks extremely close http://prntscr.com/fyz5ug

[humble rivet]

http://imgur.com/a/xcpXc is there an easier way to do this ?

[plush yew]

Please welcome @sullen charm to the community! :beers:

[wispy silo]

welcome @sullen charm

[sullen charm]

Thanks @wispy silo , looks interesting channel

[sacred crater]

When are we gonna get a friendlyname print string for structs

[tawny brook]

How can i pay with paypal balance instead of a card?

[cursive dirge]

@humble rivet easier way to do what exactly?

[urban salmon]

hay help https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?150625-Editor-Window-Module-for-Modifying-a-Non-File-Based-Actor-Instance

[plush yew]

Please welcome @summer linden to the community! :beers:

[humble rivet]

@olento importing the animations from mixamo with root :S

bone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYlonUyPong this 😄

[cursive dirge]

and how is that related to the image you orginally posted?

[humble rivet]

oh that was the wrong image 😃

changed it in the other chat only not here :S

[cursive dirge]

well, better tell you asked about it on the other channel then 😃

[humble rivet]

there are zero people in #animation

[cursive dirge]

yeah, but point is more like, if you crosspost, you split discussion into multiple channel and you usually don't update the details you give on other channel to the place you are in as well, it's just so easy to avoid by asking help for the issue on other channel but mention you have the question open in #animation , that way everyone has the same info from the beginning

[unborn matrix]

just realized how much money the dude who made PUBG made

[cursive dirge]

dude?

isn't there like big company behind it?

[unborn matrix]

yeah wasnt it like one guy?

[cursive dirge]

same that made Tera?

[unborn matrix]

Well there is now

cause at least $70mil

Brendan "PlayerUnknown" Greene

"expanded into a standalone game under Greene's creative direction"

[floral heart]

Definitely not one guy. He probably cajoled the funding all by himself though.

[unborn matrix]

Well he made a bunch of mods and remade a game around the whole battle arena thing

[paper briar]

How well would a Ryzen 5 1600 perform?

In UE4

[frank escarp]

5 million

[paper briar]

paired with an rx 570

[frank escarp]

of sales

at 30 dollars each

its also 30 euros, wich is more. But on the other hand its cheaper in Russia

so you can assume that rough average of 30 dollars per sales

[unborn matrix]

$150 million

[frank escarp]

remove half due to steam cut and sales tax

75 million

not bad in the slightest

[cursive dirge]

uh

[unborn matrix]

thats what steam does :c

[cursive dirge]

you miss so much details now

[unborn matrix]

but worth it, so much wow

[cursive dirge]

what you pay for game is not same what other regions pay for it

[unborn matrix]

Nah but all the currency is usually matched up

• tax but thats local

so we dont see any of it

[cursive dirge]

...

you really haven't heard of regional pricing on steam?

or in games in general?

[unborn matrix]

I mean I'm a steam developer

[cursive dirge]

EU1 price zone is nowhere near RUS prices

like, not even in the same ballpark

[tall pendant]

i doubt bluehole pays valve the same amount as smaller devs.

they have deals with valve as all other bigger studios have.

[unborn matrix]

@tall pendant probably yeah

EU1 price and RUS price are different yes, but how much the loca currency is valued is another thing

[frank escarp]

the usual is something like X dollars, X euros, and X/2 euros equivalent in russia

russia being half the price

but then dollars = euros

when they arent, euros are more expensive

[cursive dirge]

https://steamdb.info/app/578080/

converted price in china is -51%

same in philippine, indonesia, russia, india, thai...

I mean, near -50%

[unborn matrix]

First convert your currency to yen

[cursive dirge]

those are some big regions too

[unborn matrix]

then it should match up

[cursive dirge]

did you look at the link?

those were the converted prices

[unborn matrix]

No I'm talking about the actual money it would take to convert it.

[cursive dirge]

huh

[unborn matrix]

Like if I put in $30 us, i'm not getting $30 us worth if I exchange currency

[cursive dirge]

if you charge -50% price in china, you'll not get -0% after conversion

that's opposite how things work

you can only lose more by currency conversion

ok, nevermind

just think that the one guy who made pubg made that amount of money if it makes you happy 😃

(he could have, I haven't checked the stats or followed interviews)

this just reminds me from article about local dev making his first million, when in reality he was nowhere near that

[unborn matrix]

Well, first reported million

[tall pendant]

I'll say he gets his salary from Bluehole maybe plus some bonuses. i dunno.

[cursive dirge]

people just took steamspy stats and multiplied the sales by biggest price

[unborn matrix]

my point was it was that one dude

his mods

his thingies

did the booper

for the dollars

[cursive dirge]

mod != game