When anybody makes changes they only upload that change.
#ue4-general
worn granite
In order to make a change you have to be up-to-date (or mergeable).
(which BP will never be as far as I can tell)
glossy flame
Another one of the big advantages of version control is it tracks all of your changes you ever make, and you can revert to an old copy of something if you screw up or lose your files
worn granite
(so "up to date" is the important bit)
fickle dagger
Oh, ok. So for example, lets say I model something and add it to the level on my computer. If I want everyone to see that change, I would have to add that model into the github project file?
Am I understanding correctly?
glossy flame
Essentially, yes
There's a few steps in the middle there that we're glossing over, but you've got the idea down :p
fickle dagger
So is there anyway for me to just make a change, and have that automatically update the git repository>
so that everyone is up to date
glossy flame
Not really without some third-party tool, but IMO you'll be glad that doesn't exist
glossy flame
The thing with Git is that you have to manually share your changes to the repo once you're done—you can do whatever you want locally before doing that and your teammates will have no adverse effects
fickle dagger
so when I upload a new model or something, how does the original project file that i uploaded to the git know where it is placed in 3d space in the scene?
glossy flame
Well, that's because you'll be tracking your maps as well
Here's a pretty basic interactive tutorial to get you going, if you want https://try.github.io/
glossy flame
Yes, but Git and the services that host it aren't the same thing
Git is simply a piece of software, servers for it don't exist out of magic :p, but Git itself is open-source and free, yes
There are certain sites that host your files and provide other services like pull requests and things like that, some examples are GitHub and GitLab
They both have free basic repo stuff, but they both have size limits before you have to start paying
GitHub is 1GB and public-only repos for free, GitLab is 10GB and also private repos
glossy flame
Well, you can always host your own server if you think the services they provide aren't worth what they're charging 😃
worn granite
10GB is the better one
fickle dagger
No, I definitely think that they are worth it!
glossy flame
Yeah, GitHub is more established and has a better reputation, but GitLab has much better free offerings on paper
That said, I've had trouble with GitLab's bandwidth while pushing in the past
And I wasn't meaning that last comment as snarky or anything haha, just that you have options
fickle dagger
Okay sweet, I'm going to start with gitla just because I'm already over a gig
gaunt topaz
How do I duplicate or make a copy of an actor?
glossy flame
Do you mean as a class or in the viewport?
In the viewport/world, I know you can ctrl+C just like any other copy, I'm not 100% sure if you can do that on classes or not but you should be able to copy it somehow
buoyant mesa
which is right way to save apex cloth file so I can continue where Ieft incase of crash?
save mesh did nothing I had to pin all vextex again and do from the start
proper quiver
so I've got this building and it's procedurally generated. A decal gives it the distressed look. However it's also showing up as streaks on the rooftops. Is there a good way to prevent this from happening? Can I tell a material never to accept decals? Positioning them exactly will be very difficult. Please help thanks 😃
maybe there's some way to get the normal that the decal is projected onto, in the shader?
I really only need to mask out Z-Up
craggy charm
Can UE4 help me get a gamedev job?
proper quiver
ahhh I fixed it myself! sweet!!
pallid compass
Do you think they will ever release a UE5? or they will focus and keep updating the engine since the way its basically open source(just a curious thought)
cloud cobalt
@pallid compass They will do a UE5 when they decide to remove Blueprint, or move from C++ to Rust, or support the PS6 only, etc
pallid compass
Whats rust? 😮
cloud cobalt
Basically dramatic changes in the engine
pallid compass
gotcha
cloud cobalt
(Rust is a trendy programming language that aims at basically replacing C++ with more modern features)
pallid compass
I cant see them removing blueprints though? its such a good system for saving time where you dont need insane amounts of speed tbh
oh dam
cloud cobalt
Sure, just saying "UE5" would mean "we're changing lots of stuff", just like UE3 didn't have Blueprints, or had a virtualized scripting language that is gone now
Also, UE4 is not open-source, it's "shared source"
Like, Epic could release UE5 with a different business model and ask people not to release UE4 titles anymore (that has zero chance of happening, again, just an example)
pallid compass
Yeah makes sense haha
I was just thinking about it like hmmm what happens if company invests X amount of time in too a game and then anew engine comes out
haha
cloud cobalt
Well that's what happened to plenty of UE3 devs
But Epic timed that with a new console gen, so the devs had stuff to learn either way
pallid compass
Makes sense
Imagine if u made something like destiny tho
and ihad to move it too anew engine
R I P
vast pine
So Any Idea how to ensure controller takes on the pawns rotation when its spawned?
cloud cobalt
@pallid compass The Destiny guys actually started Destiny on a different engine and put the new one in place while in development, brick by brick
pallid compass
holy fuck, that must of cost a bomb
@vast pine you could just set the controller rotation too it on posses
on it using OnPosses*
vast pine
yeah thats what i'm trying must be setting the wrong controller its always aiming wrong 😃
cept server version
oh maybe i need to begin play adjust this
its a pawn i'm moving to face something and then posessing it
This works at begin play to ensure the spawned object faces the center of map
small gazelle
I can't make up my mind regarding to how to struture my folders. Currently I'm using nr 1, but what do you think is more optimal? It's for a modular pack.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k5jdensqn1yquo1/ue4_folder_structure.JPG?dl=1
fierce tulip
small gazelle
So you are saying that it doesn't really matter?
pallid compass
omg ITS LUOS
Dude i watch your particle effect videos all the time
There amazing
@fierce tulip i have a question for you thats always baffled me
Your Lous mask distorer node is amazing, seriously how did you made that node?(totally understand if u dont want to give the jist behind it as it is in your selling bundle i believe)
fierce tulip
I gave it away for free hehe
pallid compass
really 😮
fierce tulip
gimme a min
pallid compass
I have something similar but its no where near as good
pallid compass
That what i do haha, no where near as good but you gave me the idea, turned a cloud render in photoshop in too a normal for it
ahh wow thanks man!
fierce tulip
np 😃
pallid compass
Am i allowed to use this material function in my own hobby &/or commerical products?
pallid compass
Hmm whats weird
all meshes tend to come in with X axis facing forward
but my particle emitter is taking meshes in with X as forward and pointing them in Y
the fuq do u rotate particles
whole quarry
Still streaming Youri? Your work last night was awesome! 😁
final stone
Hey, quick question, is there a way to use deferred decal using an atlas map? like cropping or grabbing one section, to center and scale?
I feel like there is a way, but not sure if that's a common or preferred workflow when doing that
karmic thistle
hi all, I packet my game and it too big o.O
Where is the problem?
is a simple level, i dont think that is correct his size, 700 mbs aprox
cursive dirge
You probably have lots of assets in your project folder you didnt use
Also. Even basic fps template is like 300+ mb out of the box
cursive dirge
sharp crest
@karmic thistle Is it just puting the files into a zip?
sharp crest
So whats the different if you check that? It just magically makes the game less heavy? xD @karmic thistle
karmic thistle
i dont know what or how it resize your project, but it works xD
click it and test
noble wedge
UE4 question. What do you call files in the Content Browser?
I wanted to make a custom content file for animation, similar how you have a material file in the content browser.
How you double click a material and it does something. I want to do that for a custom file format.
Any idea what the terminology might be?
Assets I guess
That's it thanks!
keen carbon
uh, no problem
noble wedge
Hey on a content asset when you double-click does it ever come up without any properties?
I saw them earlier but they've disappeared
gone
It's details
Window-Details was closed
so noob
I thought I borked it
I have my custom assets working now
I need to learn things for the editor, like how if I change an enum property can I edit other properties
There must be an editor changed event or something
I need to add some custom UI to the editor details view
Like when I click on a frame element it should show a virtual keyboard or something
safe rose
@solid jungle Does it work? If so, yes. If not, no. But should work
Since that's all that Input does
I don't think there's a more performant way of doing that
if that's what you're asking
worn granite
Yeah, that's pretty good performance wise
Not the cleanest way graph-wise IMO, but it works
But my suggestion would make it less performant, so if that's your target
worn granite
Extra event so that you don't have to keep those wires linked so directly
Something like MovementKeyPressed
solid jungle
think id rather prioritize performance, but thanks for the suggestion
rapid crow
Hey, I hope it's ok to post this here ... there was talk of a Blogs channel on here but I don't think that ever happened..? Anyway, we have a new blog post - and a tool for UE4 - that some of you may be interested in for profiling memory allocations, track memory leaks etc? http://coconutlizard.co.uk/blog/ue4/mallocprofiler2-introducing/
pallid compass
so annoying why wont my visual studio's #include "AbilitySystemInterface.h" work
ffs
noble wedge
regenerate vs project, make sure it's in the right folder. Filename mismatch...
copy/paste is your friend against typos
glossy flame
As well as possibly forgetting to include the module? If you're getting red squigglies without a compile error you can ignore it, but if you're not compiling that's most likely user error :p
pallid compass
module is in
regenerated the files
will compile in my .cpp
but wont in the .h
-.-
fixed it im an idiot 😂
pallid compass
fuq do component pointers go in headers
digital carbon
The third person player character doesn't function quite right for third person
in third person games, the player doesnt usually turn with the camera
it turns with the relative movement input, so that you can move the camera without turning the character
I dont know how to fix that in UE4, I've only done first person in it.
If anybody knows what I'm talking about, a PM would be appreciated
even for people who just want to know the answer when I figure it out
vast pine
the 3rd person mode spring arm is not using controler yaw
digital carbon
the character should always face the direction it's moving, unless you're using some kind of lock on mechanic like in Zelda
vast pine
oblique trench
hey i have c++ fps template and there is any tutorial to change pawn movement like TPS C++ ?
safe rose
@oblique trench open up TPS C++ project and CP it?
elfin stream
Is there something weird with material/gpu tick vs game ticks? Im trying to add bouyancy to objects that are in my water system using gerstner waves, but using the exact same math I get very rapid jittery data from the BP vs the Material.
Yellow boxes represent where the bp functions think the height of the wave should be.
Feeding the game time into the shader every tick as well to try and make sure they are synced
cloud cobalt
So guys, any way to generate Mac builds without spending $1000 on a Mac I don't need or want ?
severe glen
is it possible get camera data ? I mean like texture and need output for show another platform? for example showing web browser?
tulip narwhal
@cloud cobalt You can rent a Mac for much cheaper
http://www.macincloud.com/
cloud cobalt
@tulip narwhal Oh, cool ! Did you try packaging UE4 games with that ? I know Windows VMs have trouble with packaging because of the large memory cost
tulip narwhal
Honestly I haven't tried with UE4. According to their Twitter it sounds reasonable to give it a shot (https://twitter.com/macincloud/status/596798118814949376). Also if you're making iOS builds remember you only need a Mac for submitting to the AppStore, everything else can be done on Windows
tall pendant
last time i checked it wasnt possible to use stuff like meteor on macincloud because the lack of access rights..maybe that changed.
wasn't UE4 related tho.
jolly briar
Hello!! I am getting error when I am trying to do packaging. Here is the error: The first include statement in source file 'D:\Yogita\city_ghost\City_08-03-2017 - Copy - Copy\city_withplayfabcode\Plugins\PlayFab\Source\PlayFab\Private\UE4ClientGameModeBase.cpp' is trying to include 'PlayFab.h' as the precompiled header, but that file could not be located in any of the module's include search paths.
Program.Main: AutomationTool exiting with ExitCode=5 (5)
Can someone help me in getting through this
cloud cobalt
What's that PlayFab plugin ?
jolly briar
It's a backend platform for games, like it handles all the login's.
cloud cobalt
Well, maybe check with them why their code is wrong
pallid compass
is there away to make your project open with VS?
sharp crest
What do you mean? @pallid compass
Just open your project in VS without opening the project in unreal and opening a C++ file?
plush yew
hey guys, quick question, can anyone link me a page where ue4 has the royalties listed for projects that generate X amount of revenue using ue4?
i thought it was 10% if the project made over 80k income yearly. A mate says 30%, an other source said 5
nevermind, got it
fluid basin
Do someone knows how I can separate body members of the Unreal skeletal mesh in 3ds max for dismemberment?
some limbs are attached and when they break, instead of chopping off, they stretch
so they need to be unattached from each other
pallid compass
When you open your UE4 project have ur VS studio open with it
umbral kraken
I need a hand.
I have a networked project going where the character can look around and shoot. The direction the projectile shoots is based on an aimRotation variable. This is set each tick, and fed into an event run on the server that also updates the aim rotation.
The issue is that the client can not aim. Looking at the variable at runtime, it appears to update. The only aiming the client can do is left/right and based on the characters rotation from a piece of redundant logic.
I can't work out why the client can't aim when the variable is set as replicated, updated on client and updated on the server too.I've also tried setting replicate on the components it uses to set aimRotation but nothing works.
Any help is greatly appreciated
gusty garden
Anybody here using Git & Git LFS with UE4 and experiencing slow down in the editor when it is enabled?
cloud cobalt
I use Git with UE4, although not with the UE integration (I use Sourcetree)
Haven't seen slow stuff
gusty garden
ya i did the same. using UE integration seems to slow it down a lot now though
fluid basin
Do anyone know how to separate limbs of a skeleton on 3ds max for dismemberment purposes?
vale halo
Are .ini files like DefaultScalability.ini "hot-reloaded"? AKA, if I update it while the game is running, will it automatically update the settings? (looking for a way to find finer quality control; Using the individual r. parameters instead of TextureQuality 1-4)
umbral kraken
@fluid basin You could try having objects/meshs of the limbs you want to dismember, spawn them at the location of the current bones for those limbs, and hide the bones on the character mesh
plush yew
Hey guy, I'm new to discord, but not the UE4 or game design in general. Can I get some tips on how to use discord properly?
THanks
glossy flame
Be polite, describe issues well to help people trying to respond, do your best to help others if you can, if you put in what you take out people will notice 😃
There's a list of official rules in the #more-resources channel, you might want to check those out
In general though, as long as you use common sense you'll be fine, haha
umbral kraken
I have an issue where the clients aim doesn't affect where the projectile is shot towards. The projectile shoots straight forward from the set location.
Using the debugging tools says that the clients aim rotation updates, and this is fed directlyinto the transform of the projectile.
It is an issue with replication but i cannot figure it out.
My aimRotation variable is set to replicate, and i also run a custom event on server to update the variable each time it is set so as to keep the server updated.
The spawning of the projectile is also done on the server.
cannot work out for the life of me why the issue is happening
A video of the client misbehaviour. Mind the flickering with shadowplay handling multiple instances
Any help appreicated ❤
umbral kraken
I made some progress by feeding aim rotation into my custom event, to then feed into spawning the projectile.
This allows aiming in any direction, as wanted, BUT....
any yaw change to aimRotation make projectiles shoot parrallel to the floor
main cobalt
Asked in lounge but i'll ask here too, "What is the option "Local map options" in maps and modes in project settings used for?"
Also is there a good explanation of streaming usage somewhere?
toxic oriole
I dunno exactly where this would go, but I have a noob question...
Ya know the (BSPs?) things that you drag in from the left side of the screen (i.e. box, cone, staircase, etc...)? How would I convert it to a static mesh/bp. I need both.
Thank you for suffering through this noob question. 😃
tall pendant
there should be an Create Static Mesh panel in your BSP details
toxic oriole
I remembered there being one too.
But there is not...
I checked all of the panel
tall pendant
Its still there for me. Have you clicked on the downwards arrow to expand the details?
tall pendant
hehe np 😛
mint raptor
I think I found a 4.16 bug
I updated a project from 4.15 to 4.16 and in 4.16 the Child ACtor Component Template was not there. If I reselect the Class the template shows up and I can edit it. However, once I restart the engine (after saving my changes of course) its missing again.
heady raptor
How is unreal engine on linux? Is it stable?
I have tried to use unity on linux before but that was horrible
digital carbon
@heady raptor You have to build it for yourself. It worked pretty well for me when I did it but when I tried the only platform available for exporting was Linux
heady raptor
Ah ok
digital carbon
It proves that there WILL be decent support soon
heady raptor
Fine with me
digital carbon
but if you want to build it now and use it, you can
heady raptor
Cool thanks
digital carbon
if you're not working on any huge public projects, it'll be totally fine
heady raptor
Oh I'm defenitly not
digital carbon
and it might be possible to copy the project's source files to a windows system an edit them there anyway
heady raptor
That's what I figured
If I want a windows build and I can't do it on linux I'll dualt boot and build it there.
Waste of space but I like my linux 😄
solid jungle
Even with the lightmap resolution at 256, one of my meshes says there is lightmap overlapping.
plain turret
has anyone tried setting up a dedicated server with 4.16.1
honest vale
simplygon is mildly infuriating
it keeps stealing focus
and I'm getting thrown out of full screen applications because of that
heady raptor
Was able to succesfully build UE4 on manjaro from the AUR, I'm now installing with pacman.
plush yew
anyone knows how to use dungeon arcitect
sharp crest
http://prntscr.com/fkt46w Will it still work? @ me pls
heady raptor
Alright I almost got this working
Now when I create and open a project it opens an xml file in libreoffice 😂
hmm
Found it:
C++ code project problems
After creating a code project, the new project opens in a text editor instead of in UE4Editor as it should. After re-launching the editor, the new project shows up and can be opened, but on the first run, it takes a half-hour or so to compile, and since this happens in the background (no GUI) it might not seem to be doing anything. The CPU usage should show that it's still compiling, and you may want to launch the editor from a console to see progress.
Does somebody now any sit to chair animation tutorial? ??
oblique trench
why my character being vibrate when I get back? any possibilities?
pallid compass
Anyone got any recommends for good website development tools that are free?
unreal sonnet
I would love to learn more about how to incorporate components with my stuff for modularizing game mechanics.
vale halo
For MyProject\Saved\Config\X, is X equal to the platform name? (Linux, Windows, Android, OSX etc.)
(pretty much, could I get the path to Saved/Config/Platform by using https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/BlueprintAPI/Game/GetPlatformName/index.html/`UGameplayStatics::GetPlatformName();`
(or would I have to bodge something like GGameIni - Game.ini up to get me the path?)
patent bane
copy pasta attacked Epic games. in FJsonObject
vale silo
are there any tutorials about setting up your project to be expandable via DLCs, building and packaging DLCs, etc. ?
plain turret
Im unable to build the ue4 engine with varest plugin, any advice?
actually im not sure what the issue is
wet spire
I remember seeing it somewhere, not sure if it was an editor plugin or something, but I found a feature that would enable me to track my time while working within the engine.
little whale
is emissive colour the same as emissive from udk?
vale halo
For MyProject\Saved\Config\X, is X equal to the platform name? (Linux, Windows, Android, OSX etc.)
(pretty much, could I get the path to Saved/Config/Platform by using https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/BlueprintAPI/Game/GetPlatformName/index.html/`UGameplayStatics::GetPlatformName();`(edited)
(or would I have to bodge something like GGameIni - Game.ini up to get me the path?
pallid compass
Does anyone know if u can add a alpha selector to photoshop colour picker?
im so use to raising and lowering how dark and light a colour is with alpha
karmic sleet
Is there any way I can get some weapon models/textures and some sounds too?
for free?
I'm making a third person shooter game
I want the shooting mechanics to be just like PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATLLEGROUNDS
can someone please reply
can anyone answer my question?
pls
pallid compass
did u even look on the market place
pallid compass
well if u want decent assets
u gotta fork out
pretty sure starter content has some free assets too
karmic sleet
let me check
karmic sleet
is there any website that gives weapon models for free?
karmic sleet
crap
fierce tulip
and the ones you can find are either copyrighted or not optimal for gamedev
pallid compass
See if there is allow downloads
karmic sleet
ok ty
pallid compass
Look for low Polygon count downloads
karmic sleet
why?
pallid compass
also ur not planning to make a game to sell it right?
Okay my advice
Is too stop what your doing
and go do some research
If u dont know why u would want low polygon weapons then u shouldnt be using the engine right now in your current set of knwoledge
pallid compass
lmao
no
thats not how it works
tldr with out sounding rude from what i can see is
U have no idea wtf ur doing
So the first thing u should do
Is go look for the most basic Ue4 tutorials
pallid compass
and actually understand how the kit works first
fierce tulip
and with tons and tons of money
pallid compass
^
karmic sleet
oh ok then :(
pallid compass
think of it this way
karmic sleet
i actually wanted to make something similar
pallid compass
Your trying to paint a master piece, and u dont even know what colours are
That is litrally you now
fierce tulip
start small, make a pong or pacman game first
fierce tulip
actually, import a texture first :p
take it easy, small steps, have fun, find tutorials on everything
pallid compass
It is
fierce tulip
any engine is hard to use, unless you learn how to use it
pallid compass
But you dont even know how to turn it on
karmic sleet
i worked in leadwerks game engine before
pallid compass
I think what we are all trying to say is
"you have no idea the scope of what your trying to do"
karmic sleet
okay
karmic sleet
like story mode and multiplayer
pallid compass
U want too sell the game?
pallid compass
U got a company setup?
karmic sleet
no
pallid compass
u better have commerical licences for everything
and set a company up
get a lawyer too
fierce tulip
karmic sleet
crap
pallid compass
before u even touch any engine
U better go and learn the actual legal side too it
so you dont end your self in BIG trouble.
karmic sleet
what do you mean by big trouble
fierce tulip
@pallid compass dont scare the poor kid, just let him enjoy the small steps.
pallid compass
haha sorry, its for his safety
fierce tulip
when I started out 14 years ago I thought I could make a high poly cloud out of bsp
fierce tulip
(cloud as in ff7)
pallid compass
omg
fierce tulip
XD
pallid compass
Amazing man, amazing
toxic oriole
I have finished pong, though there is a quite annoying error, and I don't know what's causing it.
The player's paddle is spawning on the menu level, though there is no references that I can find that tell it to be there. It is the default pawn, however, there is no player start in the menu level...
Anyone know what is causing this?
(I'm really sorry to interrupt...)
karmic sleet
i will try to do some research on the legal stuff
pallid compass
when i started college i tried to model a gun in maya, and tried to do extrudes manually with out the tool witch is impossible too do, i got so mathing mad
sacred crater
@pallid compass please refrain from using swear words :)
pallid compass
Apologies
pallid compass
Yes i was mad AM
(as math)
takes a huge team to even make small multiplayer games
if u want to keep decent quality
karmic sleet
what if i made the game only singleplayer
pallid compass
Do you know how char models are made?
btw im not trying to scare you off, but your trying to jump in too something that takes ALOT of practice and reserach and education
karmic sleet
yea people have to go in blender or another software similar and then ccreate the mesh and then rig it
ok
sacred crater
No need for legal side of things when you're just learning
pallid compass
Need to warn people though who think they can just get free assets,, make game and sell so they dont get in too trouble
sacred crater
Just learn to make pac man, checkers, blackjack, tetris
karmic sleet
i didn't even know you can get into trouble using free assets
sacred crater
Don't try to make a MMO
sacred crater
Actually, don't ever make an MMO unless you got serious funding and a large team
pallid compass
licenses*
karmic sleet
the thing is I don't want to waste time making these small game I want to go straight to a tps game and finally make my #1 dream come true
*games
pallid compass
Then my friend
You are totally out of your mind
You cant sprint against Usain bolt if u cant even walk man
fierce tulip
we all been there, we all know better now haha
sacred crater
You are not going to make a tps and make your dream come true without first learning the basic concepts of game development
pallid compass
actually better wording lmao i got it
You cant even craw man and your trying to race usain bolt
karmic sleet
(sigh) ok then...
sacred crater
learn how to print a string
then learn how to move a block
then learn how to rotate a block
then learn how to let the block move when you click on it
then learn how to spawn a block when you click somewhere
etc etc
karmic sleet
ik how to do #2 and #3
pallid compass
megaman starforce would have cost around ugh im gonna guess maybe 5mil?
karmic sleet
WHAT
pallid compass
that should give u an idea
Yeah man
what the math do u expect
horizon sero dawn cost 47mil
karmic sleet
why does it cost so much to make it?
pallid compass
and that is CHEAP AF
pallid compass
47mil for horizon zero dawn
my god
idk how they did that
but they kept the costs down
pallid compass
Where do u think all the assets come from
Voice acting
textures
Models
Animation
karmic sleet
that costs 500mil?
karmic sleet
oh wow
pallid compass
i think it was ugh 150mil they spent
just on producing the raw assets
nothing else
its on the wiki somewhere
karmic sleet
i got a lot to learn about game development. A TON
pallid compass
How old are you?
karmic sleet
why?
pallid compass
Im just curious thats all
im 24.
Iv been in the industry 4 years
and programming for 8 years.
karmic sleet
I personally don't like sharing my age online
pallid compass
no ones gonna judge you
i could prob push u in the right direction
depending on your age
If you really like the idea of games development
wet spire
I'm 38, just starting in the industry
pallid compass
erm 1 sec
karmic sleet
oh and payday 2?
pallid compass
Im not sure
il take a decent guess
of at least 10mil for PUBG
then again they went the market way
so maybe 1-7mil
payday2
prob around 10-30mil
wet spire
My team and I created a tps for our final project. There were four of us. We had 4 months to do it. It was a nightmare. Great learning experience, but nothing I want to do again in the near future. Not without a competent team backing up the game.
karmic sleet
did you make money off of it?
wet spire
Lol no.
pallid compass
I think they mean education project
karmic sleet
ah
buoyant hollow
Is there a way to see why a variable's value isn't being read from a widget?
pallid compass
check your information flow
printS all over till u find out why its not being passed out
wait what
ur storing a variable in widget?
what type of veriable
as in what u using it f or
That dosent sound right too me
I built a full inventory system, equip system & bag slot system for sorting
and didnt read store much inside widgets
wet spire
It had potential to make money, but by the end we realized all of the mistakes we made, we'd have to start over from the ground up. Everyone else was sick to death of it. We were one of three teams that didn't put our game on steam (out of 10)
pallid compass
i always ready it from player dataholder
pallid compass
I know your feels angry, i own my own little startup lmao
THE PAIN
im actually learning to use epics abilirty system atm
its SO COMPLEX
but so amazing
wet spire
@karmic sleet Poravity you can find our development videos and post mortem on YouTube
I bought the able ability system plugin and and currently learning it
pallid compass
lmao i know that feel LOL
"we originally planned too"
then tanget off
im the master of that
wet spire
lol yeah
pallid compass
Epic's abilitysystem
is GOD TIER
its so efficient and powerful its unreal
however the whole system is basically
C++ EVERYWHERE
wet spire
I'm not there yet still getting the feel of c++, they taught us c#
pallid compass
dw fam, i SUCK AT IT
been using it for years but never ever
stuck too it like clue
glue*
what id give for c++ teacher
karmic sleet
@wet spire That's a really cool game!
wet spire
Thanks
wet spire
I'm doing udemy, I like it because I can go at my own pace and the instructors run a discord server so you can get help at any time
pallid compass
ahh that sounds amazing its crap in the uk
however
i do have connections to LA, so i get to fly out soon and learn from big studio
woop
wet spire
Sounds cool. This is the on I am doing https://www.udemy.com/unrealcourse/
pallid compass
wtf only £10
wet spire
Figured for ten bucks, it should at the very least get me started
karmic sleet
@wet spire is there any way I can try your game?
wet spire
It's on itch.io @karmic sleet I'm on my phone ATM. It's multiplayer only so you might want to get a friend or two to play with, but you can run around the maps and play the training areas
pallid compass
i bet u guys had fun figuring replication out lmao
wet spire
I like that idea halcyon
karmic sleet
ok
wet spire
😲 I actually got a lot of help here in the last month because our "networking" had some stuff set up wrong from day one. But he followed the wicked old UE4 mp blueprint tutorials. Anyway we learned really fast that we had to basically do everything twice
pallid compass
man first time i did replication
i got
REKT
couldnt get my head around
"SERVER DOES EVERYTHING"
E V E R Y T H I N G
wet spire
This was also our first UE4 project
pallid compass
oh wow u did good job then!
wet spire
We asked for ALL of the problems, 😂
pallid compass
sounds like u have a good team though
Mine is not so balanced
Me doing most of everything, 3d Modeller, 2 sound engineers, 2 artists, project manager, photoshop guy
lmao
wet spire
Mostly. We had one member that was just a name in the credits basically
wet spire
That member was a restart from the class ahead of us
We never got any of our art assets from the game art students assigned to us or audio from the sound kids.
wet spire
Lol
pallid compass
10 hours aday on average
i dont understand people who come to the industry and dont work for it
wet spire
Me either. Well any industry actually
pallid compass
Game compositing
Photoshop skills
photography
Light manipulation and understanding
Modelling
Rigging
Animation
Programming
Blueprinting
Advanced Materials
Advanced masks & RGBA injection
Networking
basic char sculpting
VFX
at the moment
Thats my list of skills
BUT NEED MOAR
my animation is only basic tho*
wet spire
Pretty decent with system design (spreadsheets) and data driven design
pallid compass
ah yeah i do data too i just dont put it in there because im not amazing at it
haha
i can do concept art too, but not amazing
wet spire
I had one of the best systems designers ever from the industry as one of my course directors.
pallid compass
omg thats amazing
wet spire
Worked on several Star Wars games and he's actually part of the Star Wars canon, lol
I love level design and world building though. (Environmental level design) depends on who you talk to
whole quarry
I can make 3D cube's
pallid compass
lmao
amazing
well im going out to work with tng visual effects so im super excited
whole quarry
Now you mention it, particle fx is missing on your list
whole quarry
I assumed VFX would be more post-processing related, my bad
pallid compass
ah true thats prob more better, just my naming convention
wth
one of my classes has vanished D:<
Severity Code Description Project File Line Suppression State
Error C2144 syntax error: 'UAbilitySystemComponent' should be preceded by ';'
the fuck
time to rebuild all lmao
the fuck is going on
wet spire
I'm trying to understand what sweep collisions are and how they are different from other collisions. I looked at the documentation but it didn't help me much
Like why /when would you use a sweep collision over a standard sphere or box collision
pallid compass
btw whats the deal with using ExtraModuleNames.Add now?
pallid compass
how do i delete all the engine build stuff
so i can recompile it all
nothing is working
wait wtf iv got 2017 open and in solution explorere is says 20156
20165
2015
wet spire
ah it is the little things isn't it?
pallid compass
no idea whats causing this
i cant get my shit to compile and its driving me mental
wet spire
are you getting an error log?
fathom elm
Hey peeps. Anyone has an idea how to fix a /script/PluginName error missing?
We are trying to use PlayFab, and when we want to package the game it says that /script/PlayFab is missing, and that none of it's code will be packaged.
pallid compass
Is there away to not have vs build certian files?
how can u disable plugins via config file
spark lotus
@pallid compass did you fix it, I'm assuming it's because you're upgrading to 4.16.x?
spark lotus
hahaha
weary basalt
@pallid compass if you have an corrupt BP the chances of you being able to fix it are slim. If you have source control your only option is to revert to an stable version
whole quarry
If you don't have Source Control, but Auto-Saves etc (default settings) enabled, you can check the folder <project folder>\Saved\Backup for older versions of the BP to restore it
lavish glacier
What is the correct setup to import LOD meshes to UE4? And does it import separate meshes for each LOD that I need to then manually assign? Or is there more automated process?
If I import fbx with LODGroup1 with Mesh Mesh_1 Mesh_2 etc it loads them up as single mesh
or splits them into different meshes if I choose not to group the meshes
What is the correct way?
quartz patrol
@lavish glacier https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Engine/Content/Types/StaticMeshes/HowTo/AutomaticLODGeneration/ Read this
ashen brook
lavish glacier
@quartz patrol i have, it covers manual lod assignment
i am asking how do i set it up so it imports and sets up lods based on fbx layout
automatically
also i think this article covers 4.14
i am using 4.13.2
nm its 4.12
4.14 introduced automatic lod generation, i am going to try latest version
rapid crow
Hey guys, we put another blog post up that you might find useful? http://coconutlizard.co.uk/blog/ue4/the-quickening/
honest vale
horrible site
hijacking mouse scrolling is a good way to turn off visitors
just saying
fierce tulip
while I am like, hnnng fast mouse scrolling
rapid crow
Hey Jonimake/Yoeri, what OS/browser are you viewing the website on? Seems ok to me (similar in speed to Visual Studio for instance) but we're using a Wordpress Template ..... it might be something I can have the devs fix..
cloud cobalt
Why are people such incredible dicks on the UE forums sometimes ?
The Linux support thread is now a cesspool of "but Linux sucks lol"
slim mica
cloud cobalt
Nice
wet spire
oh damn. Adds to list of things to check when I can't build @pallid compass
vale silo
does anyone know how to setup project to be DLC-ready and then how to author DLC for it ? (paid DLC that is)
cloud cobalt
@vale silo The cooking process is described in the "Patching" docs, I think
Patches, mods and DLCs between mostly the same thing
Not sure if you're asking about something specific
whole quarry
Does someone know what kind of witchery is needed to get this working? It worked in my test map, but not in the game map.. 😕
vale silo
well, @cloud cobalt , I can't simply make a patch for existing project, can I? I assume there gotta be some particular setup that would ensure that when user has no DLC (or hasn't paid for it), DLC won't show up in-game. And when player purchased DLC, downloaded DLC is detected properly by the main game and users sees the content in-game.
main cobalt
@whole quarry if you post that in #blueprint you'll probably get help faster 😃
whole quarry
I found the proper ritual... It was something dumb (had to do SpawnAIFromClass...)
buoyant hollow
is it better to create a custom font for use with an object when the player interacts with it or should i use a custom image?
keen birch
Am I correct in thinking that there is nothing about age restrictions in the UE4 EULA, meaning that a minor can also apply for dev grants?
fierce tulip
I think it was 18+, but then again the youngest marketplace person is 13 now or so
so.. dunno actually
keen birch
I can't find anything about age in the EULA (but then, I may be an idiot)
Nor anything about parents/guardians/minors
fierce tulip
when in doubt, answerhub/forums
fierce tulip
yea might be best
keen birch
And also on the topic of the grants, if you are to apply, there's a tickbox whether you're applying for a Vive - if I'm applying for both a Vive and an actual grant, do I apply twice or just tick that box?
pallid compass
Dont suppose someone would explain the term magnitude in the AbilitySystem plugin too me, as if i am about 12
sterile cairn
Is there a better way to implement a Facial Action Coding System than doing each pose as an additive animation? I looked into doing a pose asset, but I couldn't get it to allow me to change each value on the fly.
Right now I have a bunch of things that look like this:
I also asked in #animation, but the channel is extremely slow today.
cloud cobalt
@vale silo Yes you can, if you used the release process
Every release you generate yields a content archive you can build against to generate a patch
If you didn't, you can always do it now, get the update out, and then build DLC
Distribution is something that e.g. Steam handles
People shouldn't get the content without downloading it
If you're talking about having everyone download the DLC, and only activate it for peopke who paid, then you'd need a separate system, but people hate that, imho
vale silo
right, distribution will be handles by the platform holder (Steam, Oculus)
the way it works with steam is that you get your DLC files (with other engines I worked with it was just a zip file that contained folders structure and content files and game logic DLLs that overrode original ones) and Steam packages it and uploads it. When user buys DLC, it gets downloaded into where you set it up via Steam's dev web interface and since it was just a zip file, the game engine would automatically detect it and load it.
cloud cobalt
Yeah, sounds like how UE4 works with patches
pallid compass
mfw i cant even do classes someone shoot me
vale silo
@cloud cobalt https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?61385-DLC-System based on this DLC stuff hasn't been implemented ? :/
cloud cobalt
That was two years ago
@vale silo What I've been doing for a year now is content patches, you just need to paste a binary package in the content folder and it will just add the contents there
We use the asset registry to look for new classes
So we can basically add anything to the game just by patches, new levels, new ships etc.
vale silo
@cloud cobalt so if I follow patch making doc, I'll end up with shipping build binary package that needs to be downloaded into game's Content/ folder and then whatever is in the binary package automatically becomes available in the game (assuming main game has logic for it) ?
buoyant hollow
@slim mica that looks great
cloud cobalt
@vale silo Yep
vale silo
@cloud cobalt I see. So how do I patch logic then ? (for example, adding new AI content and having improved / new logic for it)
same thing?
I guess I am concerned with how to separate new stuff added into the project after the initial release from existing content / BP (or separating content in the project to go into main release and into DLC)
cloud cobalt
Patches usually generate a new executable that replaces the original
But you could also just detect existence of patch assets to enable the new behaviour, which is what most games do AFAIK
Or just stop updating the core game
pallid compass
What are the .generate.h files for with your headers? as one of mine aparently cant be found and a regen did not fix it
cloud cobalt
@pallid compass Those are generated by UE4 from your UCLASS properties
They should be generated every time you change headers
pallid compass
yeah i think iv got typo somewhere bringing up unusual errors like last time
ugh whyyy
pallid compass
yeah it wont compile
iv commented out litrally everything i have put in
cant get it to compile in vs or in the engine
cloud cobalt
So what's the error in the output log ?
pallid compass
engine or vs?
cloud cobalt
VS
pallid compass
what the hell
i found the issue
the word
"harp"
was randomly in my source
what the hell is going on, i had lol in the source the other day
I think i might actually be losing my mind
pallid compass
oh wow exposing functions is pretty easy 😮
buoyant hollow
Can you reverse the default "Scroll Box" widget so it opens up instead of down? basically the opposite of this example.
https://gyazo.com/e645922a776aca36e9cf7fb4fa142746
safe rose
@pallid compass glad you figured it out.
vale silo
@cloud cobalt so when project is build and packaged, BP stuff goes into .exe ?
cloud cobalt
Nope
BP is content
So it'll stay in the content archive / patch in release / patch
noble fiber
Been lurking here for a week or so and noticed the announcement of the jam coming up at the end of the month. I've been interested in trying Unreal out instead of Unity, so I can decide which I like better as a platform for developing VR. Any good sites or courses to recommend to prepare me for the jam?
I've got a Udemy course already: Learn to code by building 5 games in the Unreal Engine. But there might be other resources to look at as well, obviously. 😉
vale silo
@cloud cobalt what's "assets registry" btw?
cloud cobalt
It's a class that allows you to iterate over assets, look for some, etc
Like "find me all blueprints inheriting this"
livid haven
Aye, asset registry lets you run queries and find assets, without having loaded them.
vale silo
is it built-in stuff or something you had to create yourself ?
cloud cobalt
Built-in
vale silo
cool
cloud cobalt
Wait a sec
vale silo
thanks, now I'll do some digging and testing with DLCs
vale silo
oh, I don't do CPP
cloud cobalt
I don't do BP 😄
vale silo
hehe
pallid compass
im so ready for bed omg, cant get my calculation modifiers to work @_@
Does anyone see anything wrong with this setup?
the calculation class grabs the HP.Max attribute
misty grove
Could anyone here suggest an inexpensive laptop that can run ue4? I just want something that can get BP running, and the editor at minimum settings. I have a good PC, but I also go out of town from time to time so it'd be nice to take my work with me
pallid compass
Budget and country?
misty grove
$500ish, US
pallid compass
ugh thats not alot
misty grove
I know...if I could go back 6 months I would have built a laptop instead of a PC
pallid compass
wat
misty grove
well...I mean, it just sucks only being able to work at home
pallid compass
u better be out of town ALOT
haha
i paid around 1400$ for my laptop
it runs ue4 alright like
safe rose
@misty grove like @pallid compass said.. $500 isn't alot
pallid compass
nothing special tho
pallid compass
still takes awhile to compile shaders and stuff, produces alot of heat too
misty grove
I know. $500 is super low for computers, but I just need to run BP really, and basic stuff in the editor to test scripts and whatnot
safe rose
I was looking at a Microsoft Pro
misty grove
alright. 900 series
safe rose
2017 version for ue4
pallid compass
look for refurbished laptop
safe rose
Yeah, I doubt you can get even a 1050laptop for 500
misty grove
I'm looking right now, so far no luck
pallid compass
1050 start at like 900$ think
misty grove
I'm on a low level of knowledge when it comes to hardware, so do you guys mind if I post some links and get your opinions?
safe rose
Acer Aspire E 15 E5-575G-57D4 15.6-Inches Full HD Notebook (i5-7200U, 8GB DDR4 SDRAM, 256GB SSD, Windows 10 Home), Obsidian Black https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LD4MGY4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_qZeszbA2DFEPQ
misty grove
misty grove
will it be sluggish? Or will I at least be able to get it working smoothly on the low settings?
safe rose
Yeah, if you do lowest settings, should be fine.
safe rose
The issue is CPU
pallid compass
if ur compiling stuff, running high end functions and stuff
cpu is gonna be ur slowdown
and thats one thing laptops tend to lack if u cant fork out
misty grove
I see. So it's kind of looking like, maybe it'll get me by for a while, but as I keep going, I'm probably going to hit a wall and need to upgrade anyways
so I'm better off spending the money now and just getting something decent...
pallid compass
it really depends what ur doing in the editor
but even i sit here with an i7 laptop and 980m
and its so mathing slow man
its annoying as hell
misty grove
so what do you think is the lowest price I can get a laptop at, that will run ue without slowing me down
cause I really dno'
don't want to run into a scenario like that
pallid compass
i wonder if u can get a laptop running like haswell i7 thats refurbished
960, haswell i7 and 8gb of ram
would prob do u
id wann get a second opinion on that from someone though
as iv not ran the editor with such low specs before.
misty grove
Alright
pallid compass
lets see if anyone else replies
also does anyone see anything wrong with this, dam thing wont increase my max hp by 80, it just does nothing Q_Q
misty grove
I must have some setting on my monitor messed up, but I can't read anything in that screenshot
pallid compass
its because its not small screen shot
u need to open it
and it will clear up
open original
pallid compass
looks perfect
but overkill on the 4k screen
ugh
HDD issue
would not buy that
u need at least an SSD
or ur gonna be sobbin
misty grove
alright. I'll keep looking
pallid compass
More assets u build up in your project
the more ur storage devices get wacked
got too the point where i bought two 700$ storage devices
cus got sick of it lmao
misty grove
of course
misty grove
yeah that's what I'm thinking....
orrrrrrrr. I could maybe set up screen sharing from my macbook pro to my PC....
timber axle
this the right channel to ask for help? my right mouse click is going crazy and idk how to fix it. It's moves inverted and randomly for some reason.
grim flame
you are holding your mouse backwards. 😛
pallid compass
LOL
timber axle
i was using the right mouse click to rotate and all that, and then suddenly now when i move down for example. when i hold and drag, it goes like left and right
i tried to restart but that didnt work
pallid compass
how about
you actually tell us with what / on what
In game?
in the editor?
just your pc in general
timber axle
no just in the editor as im making a level
grim flame
sounds like inverted axis on the editor
timber axle
i mighta clicked something
grim flame
there might be an option for that or even a shortcut
pallid compass
tried rebooting ur pc
grim flame
my money is on a setting in the editor
pallid compass
i know that sounds stupid, but can fix most issues
then u will know if its hardware issue or not
timber axle
i just clicked the snap rotation thing and it fixed itself
on the little menu
lool
timber axle
im new to all this
pallid compass
dw fam idk what the math im doing half the time
I just press buttons and hope things work
timber axle
lol
pallid compass
if u think im joking im not 😄
grim flame
oops didn't see you had fixed it, well, in case you want to invert the orbit, there it is 😃
pallid compass
Core i9-7980XE: 18 cores/36 threads, $1,999
my god
can it hurry up
want it so bad
livid haven
Eh?
Masively parallelized processing isn't going to do anyone here much good.
Besides build times, but you'll get shit performance on those nerfed core speeds when you actually try to run your game.
Great for a build farm of any sort, but not good for a dev machine, since you actually need to run what you're developing and run it in an unoptimized, debuggable configuration.
brave horizon
yeah I was being sarcastic.
livid haven
I figured the last line was, but you weren't the only one making comments that seemed hyped about using i9s for dev. :X
brave horizon
oh heh
livid haven
I don't know how feasible it really is for game engines to really make use of lots of cores - it's a complex problem.
And there are always innate dependecies that mean that, truly, only so much can be parallelized.
floral heart
And compute shaders are probably a lot more fun anyway.
livid haven
Say, like, making discrete sets of physical objects that can collide (where you can guarantee no collisions between objects belonging to different sets), you could try to parallelize the sets, but not necessarily the elements in a set.
floral heart
How much of these gains with multi-core processors are from higher TDPs? E.g. Comparing a 4-core 65W to a 10-core 140W seems a little unfair.
livid haven
No clue. I was just on about how low frequency, high core count processors perform poorly for predominantly non-parallel processing that engines typically do.
You want to get an Incredibuild license and hook up a few machines with these 18 core monstrosities though? Oh yeah. Sweet sweet build time reductions.
turbid plover
-_-
has anyone setup perforce for 4.16?
it worked 100% fine for me in 4.15 but now it seems to be fighting with perforce when i add certain files and it doesnt save some of the changes i make to files and seems to load my project as if i didnt change anything
some BPs add fine though...
basically it just seems buggy in 4.16
ruby aspen
Hi. I am making a multiplayer tower defense game. Very simple. Just making it to learn really. I want to tag all of the towers as belonging to a specific player. I noticed that the player state has a variable called player id. I'm assuming it would just be best to create a similar variable on the tower and give it the value of the player id in player state. That's pretty much the most efficient way right?
turbid plover
just a follow up, perforce is fine. the bug was with a struct select getting changed everytime i loaded up my project. i had to delete the select node and start the node from a source struct (not drag from the output of the node), and the other issue fixed after i created new uassets then fixed the snipped wires (which were an array of that same struct type)
which was also snipped in another place... but that fixed after i reconnected the wires once, no file recreation necessary
and all of those uassets were created in 416. most of my converted bp's from 415 worked fine
@ruby aspen you could ask in the BP channel, they might be able to help 😃
pallid compass
I dont know if you even looked but the core clock on the i9s is not low at all
plush yew
does anyone know wat does fix all redirectors option do?
cloud cobalt
Remove redirector files left after moving / deleting assets
cursive dirge
@plush yew redirector tells where the real asset is after it's been moved form the original place: Since some assets still look for the uasset on the old place, redirector is there to guide them to right place. When you fix up redir, it basically looks up for the assets that ref the redirector and not the actual asset, changes them to ref the actual asset and after that, it removes the redirector
ever since I've used UE4, I've wished they would allow editor to do that automatically
redirs kinda make sense when you work in a team though, but very little when you are the only one who manages the project structure
plush yew
@cursive dirge so there is no harm if I do that right?
cloud cobalt
Nope
plush yew
Oh ok thanks
cursive dirge
well, it could break things sometimes, but you can then always assign the refs manually back in
plush yew
But can anyone help me I am getting packaging failed
cursive dirge
haven't seen that happening when I do that instantly after moving things around though
plush yew
The output log is in the lounge
oUTPUT.txt
Here it is
Pls take a look at it and help me fix this problem plsssss😖
cursive dirge
uh
read the log
it literally tells the issues if you read it carefully
you can't expect people to read these for you
plush yew
I really tried to solve each of them but didn't work out
cloud cobalt
What's the first error in the log ?
cursive dirge
well, if you can't read a log for error text, you'll have way more difficult issues to solve in the future
just look what is the first error in the log and solve it
don't even try to solve it last error first as often the issues propagate
so, if you can't find the error by looking at the log, open it in text editor and search for word error or something...
whole quarry
Debugging, stop 1 of developing
calm anchor
Hey, whats the best way to implement the disembodied player? I.e. just a fixed camera with custom blueprint logic
whole quarry
I dont understand the example