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worn oyster May 5, 2020, 5:17 PM

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ppl allways say :know ur rights.. but knowing and gettin it done 2 diffrent things

raven ferry May 5, 2020, 5:17 PM

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be grateful for what you got not what you "lost"

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 5:17 PM

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if enough people speak up on this , they will eventually fix it

worn oyster May 5, 2020, 5:18 PM

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prolly end the free stuff but yea

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i wouldnt mind actually

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me grabbin em all is more of a grab as much free stuff as u can thing ... i opened a few that were just horrible 😛

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7 crap meshes and im like... 7k$$?? this is like 2 days work

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altho im not sure about the 7k thats something i read might be less for some packs

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 5:31 PM

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LOL I was going to buy the advanced multi player pack from the same guy ,,, now Im not. So in the end they lost money. In my version they would have gained $45 to $75 if i used a voucher towards the guys other drivable cars pack ..... this is a prime example of why I am trying to help them to see this FACT

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if the item was 11.99 for example and it was free and i already bought it I would get a voucher instead. Now that i have 11.99 in my account i am more likely to spend it and more on another asset i want as most people would.

worn oyster May 5, 2020, 5:35 PM

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yea some stores return when a tv u buy goes on discount next day but most dont

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 5:35 PM

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I wont say anymore as i am giving away great ideas again LOL I love unreal and i hope they consider what i have said. The change would help everyone in the end. That concludes my rant

raven ferry May 5, 2020, 5:35 PM

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this is just your buyer's remorse, doesn't really make sense. the seller that got selected will always receive 7000$ or less, the voucher is actually a sum of money that someone will have to pay (in that case, EPIC). If an asset that has been sold 1000 times went free and they had to give vouchers to each buyer, it would go 7000$ PLUS a lot of money

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Do you go mad when you buy without discount and it goes 50% in the next 3 months?

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 5:37 PM

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you really think a company gives you a virtual credit from real cash ? LOL think again @raven ferry

raven ferry May 5, 2020, 5:37 PM

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if its epic that is giving the voucher the seller needs to receive the money from the purchase

worn oyster May 5, 2020, 5:38 PM

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the virtual credit thing is kinda true 😄

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 5:38 PM

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which epic gets a cut of already. Plus the money they already spent that epic has

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Buyers remorse LOL yes your right , mainly because i never knew it would be free. Now that it is , this has created a new problem for me that never had to be a problem if the system was correct. That very problem is the reason now they will lose thousands , as this is what i have spent and still planned to buy more,,,,, i think that is a loss rather you think so or not

raven ferry May 5, 2020, 5:45 PM

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they wont lose anything when they give free stuff to help their community

mighty yacht May 5, 2020, 5:45 PM

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I think it is pretty cool that an asset can become free. Some will always be unlucky but oh well...

raven ferry May 5, 2020, 5:45 PM

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yeah one or another will complain, but thats okay

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the best thing that happened after I bought advanced locomotion was it going 4 free, the community using it improved a lot ALS. I know this can't happen to every assets, but that was one of many good things that happened with the free stuff

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 5:48 PM

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Thats where your both wrong. Money needs to be made and if the people spending it all come to this realization ( that its best to wait for all of the free assetes before you spend real money , instead just make it all yourself or risk a loss ) . When the guys spending stop spending , that creates a bigger issue and i am sure i am not the first to come to this conclusion who actually spends

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If I give you a $5 dollar voucher on my website where every item cost $10 dollars and its just virtual goods , i always profit.

raven ferry May 5, 2020, 5:50 PM

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be grateful for what you got, I know it sucks when you spent a lot of money that was hard for you to get and now you think that you could have used for something else, but it happens to everyone

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yeah but if you are selling my asset and you gave a voucher for it I would want the full price in my funds

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 5:51 PM

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@raven ferry it doesnt have to and thats my whole point. I have provided a proper solution now i jusat need you all to help me push it

raven ferry May 5, 2020, 5:54 PM

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it happened with epic store

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epic had to cover the discounts

old drum May 5, 2020, 5:55 PM

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@unreal eagle uhhh can you describe your solution again and in more simple ways

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I’ve been trying to read up to understand, but the idea is all scattered in those replies

weak bobcat May 5, 2020, 5:55 PM

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I think he's asking for a discount on another purchase

worn oyster May 5, 2020, 5:56 PM

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he is right tho, u should sell ur stuff for 60$ and give away 50$ discounts if u wunna sell stuff 🙂

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for 10$

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 5:57 PM

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@worn oyster gets it

old drum May 5, 2020, 5:57 PM

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@unreal eagle I think you should go with an independent 3D artist for your car models, just so you have full control of the asset.

Nobody on marketplace owes you exclusivity rights and it was and still is wrong to expect it

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You paid really really cheap for the cars you bought because you weren’t buying exclusivity

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 5:58 PM

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No non blackfox , this isnt the issue at all

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you do get the rights to items you bu on the market place

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for ue4 only of course

old drum May 5, 2020, 5:58 PM

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You don’t get exclusive rights and never will

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Anyone else can use the same model

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 5:58 PM

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of course they can.

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however when som,ething becomes free , it is a mass ownership and not selective. Meaning EVERYONE will have it now

old drum May 5, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Uh no

north stirrup May 5, 2020, 5:59 PM

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lmao

old drum May 5, 2020, 5:59 PM

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Only people who choose to use it will have it man

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The choice still had to be made, it wasn’t made a part of UE4 starter content

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I don’t have this content because I wouldn’t make the choice of taking a marketplace asset for an important part of my game

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:00 PM

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Agin the point is not about who will have what. Its about market place items listed as free , being purchased before they were free and how they can keep paying customers like me satisfied and willing to buy more.

worn oyster May 5, 2020, 6:02 PM

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the store is sellin at low margins tho

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:02 PM

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Cuirrently i have spent thousands on assets , and have had 6 now that end up coming out for free. I feel that customers who purchased it before it ws free should receive one of the following options ( remeber thase people support UE4 and its small andl arge creators with CASH)

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:02 PM

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If you purchased them before they were free, you’ve completed a transaction, what sense is there to go back on it

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Like

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Between earning $1000 from sales and listing item for free because epic paid $5000, what’s the fair choice here for asset creator lol

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Would you not list your assets for free if epic offered to cover more than your past sales

weak bobcat May 5, 2020, 6:03 PM

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You still have benefit from purchasing those assets, that being you had it before the others and had time to integrate it into your project. It's not like that time was just lost now that others can get it.

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:04 PM

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I do think your desire to have customer satisfaction is noble, no doubt

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But if you want to make a real change, you need to grasp how the same situation doesn’t look as intense from the other point of view

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When offering vouchers etc don’t forget that most buyers make stupid choices

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They will buy an $15 asset instead of a $60 - $50 one with a voucher

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And other stuff like that

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:08 PM

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They should get a voucher for the amount of the free item they already owned. ( 100% would be nice , but 50% could be acceptable) 2. They offer alternate free assets for those who owned the current free one already. 3. Give a full refund to the buyer since they are free now anyway . or 4. Lose customers like me who pay money for these assets and the rights to use them in UE4. Until the issue is resolved i wont buy another asset , ill wait unril the free program ends so i am sure my next purchase wont be on a product that will be free the next month. I know for a fact now I am not the only one who has made this decesion for these reasons

worn oyster May 5, 2020, 6:08 PM

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id really like too see me scroll trough everything w/o my pc goin like im doin 100 renders at a time 🙂

hasty nexus May 5, 2020, 6:11 PM

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@unreal eagle you also got free assets worth of thousands. You don't say much about those.

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:12 PM

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@unreal eagle but I still don't see what you are asking the refund for

hasty nexus May 5, 2020, 6:12 PM

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The only fair trade would be, fine,, you want a voucher, then you don't get the free assets, you only get the voucher.

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:12 PM

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If my complaint was about free assets that would be another conversation. My point applies to anyone and everyone who has paid for an aasset only for it to become one of the free assets

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:12 PM

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You paid for a very 'open' and unfavorable license for an asset

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You have paid a fair price that asset was listen under at the time

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As acceptable by the assets license, the asset became free later

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Where is the point at which you need to be refunded?

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You paid a low amount of money for a fairly flimsy (for a developer) license that permits others to use the asset and also doesn't limit the author in making asset free even if it was immediately after your purchase

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You did not purchase a stronger license (marketplace isn't where you go for it)

worn oyster May 5, 2020, 6:13 PM

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its the creators call, he also devalues his own asset

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:14 PM

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That's true, the moral aspect of it is understandable, but marketplace is ultimately the marketplace and not a place where you get stronger licensed assets

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:14 PM

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To much to try to explain this via text. Im am for sure dropping a video on this. Typing and trying to exlain it to some of you is useless. Its the internet. No matter how clear it is you will just try to come up with another irrelevant argument. Stick to the main point

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:14 PM

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I understand the sentiment (it's a decent sentiment), though the rules of taking part in marketplace mean you pay less for a less strong (on your part) license for the assets

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:15 PM

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To much to try to explain this via text. Im am for sure dropping a video on this. Typing and trying to exlain it to some of you is useless. Its the internet. No matter how clear it is you will just try to come up with another irrelevant argument. Stick to the main point

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:16 PM

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What is the main point

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I'm trying to figure that out

north stirrup May 5, 2020, 6:16 PM

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The main point being: you're pissed to have paid for something 5 months ago that you could have gotten for free now

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Its about market place items listed as free , being purchased before they were free and how they can keep paying customers like me satisfied and willing to buy more.

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:16 PM

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Okay, well, the answer to that is "yeah, that's kinda fair that you're pissed, but that's what you should have expected with marketplace"

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If the author feels making the asset free gives a higher expectation of profit, you can't do much other than roll along with it. If you want some refunds or some free assets, contact the author directly, it's not something that has to be related to the store (because it's a store for weak-license sort of assets)

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:17 PM

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@old drum and again , that is why i am offering up this solution as it shouldnt have to be that way. EXAMPLE now that I know better i wont buy anymore. Now some creator that would have gotten some cash , never will.

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:17 PM

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You're acting like a drama queen

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Your money wasn't ever the creators until you would actually pay them

spiral kernel May 5, 2020, 6:18 PM

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no one forced you to buy those assets, take some responsibility for your own actions

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:18 PM

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There is some real point to creators probably getting better sales through some actions - focus on that

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:18 PM

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LOL if i posted a screenshot of how much I have spent on assets youd doodoo on yourself

north stirrup May 5, 2020, 6:18 PM

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lol

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:18 PM

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Don't focus on yourself. You would not make any notable bump in the market of the marketplace, focus on what can happen that doesn't have your car assets as the focus of it 😄

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Its not just me , there have been others during this that have had the same thing happen to them. I have a few messages here as well from peoiple ready to join in on this push to make UE4 even better for all , spending or not

north stirrup May 5, 2020, 6:20 PM

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So you want a refund right

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:20 PM

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not really , a voucher would be fair. as I pointed out earlier in my 4 options above.

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Okay @unreal eagle so let me get to the point then: if you want to push this change and genuinely want to make UE4 better for all, you have to present your point better and put more emphasis on what would make it good for the other UE4 customers, not what would make it good for you

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:21 PM

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Im a better talker than typer , i try my best though LOL

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:21 PM

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There is a bit of moral ground here to ask for some sort of a voucher, but ultimately it comes off as you thinking that marketplace owes you more than marketplace really owes you by design

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:22 PM

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I think i have done a good job though on my examples. Im also not looking at just me. this appliex to all this has happned to

north stirrup May 5, 2020, 6:24 PM

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You realize that if the marketplace had to refund all the existing sales of an asset whenever it's free for the month, they'd loose a huge amount of money right

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:25 PM

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we covered that earlier PHY . they wouldnt lose money , they would gain in the end. Maybe not as much as screwing the spending cutomers , but they will always gain

mighty yacht May 5, 2020, 6:25 PM

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I think marketplace should add lootboxes. You pay fixed sum and you have no idea whats inside. Could be an asset, worth ten times the sum you paid or could be nothing.

north stirrup May 5, 2020, 6:25 PM

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ohh that's a great idea!

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:26 PM

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@unreal eagle if you have a 30% (random number) probability that you will get 100 money by doing what you want, or 80% probability that they will get 80 money by doing what they did, which one of these two options is more profitable?

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A higher risk (longer return term) solution has a lower final expectation on earnings than a lower risk, shorter term return solution with a lower expected earning (just because the expectation on the earnings is higher)

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Epic Games makes choices logical to them

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I didn't see any argument that would make it less logical for them to do what they already did so far

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The "the other higher risky solution will satisfy customers more and gain more in the end" doesn't seem more decisively fitting if I try to put myself into Epic's shoes

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:28 PM

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@old drum o . you mean the screw the paying vutomer way ? That math will be forever changing when its clear that if people like me stop buying , that ratio will keep changing until the lose enough cash purchases. Then we will see how many free assets you all get then... The one who pay keep this thing moving.

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:28 PM

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You say that, but Epic Games have a much better information on the store, on the ratio of customers like you vs the general crowd

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I want all-original content so I invested my money into making custom assets for our project, lol. I don't use a single marketplace asset in part because I do not accept weak licenses like the marketplace one

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It doesn't matter now that you've spent it, but for the future - now I hope you will invest more into independent artists and support them (and get original, fully yours and nobody elses assets out of it)

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:31 PM

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Well Blackfox i am in the same boat as you now. this is going to add 2 motnhs minumum to my production time. As of today i am never buying an asset until the voucher or refund system is in place or the free asset program ends.

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:34 PM

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Making games is hard indeed

mighty yacht May 5, 2020, 6:36 PM

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Never say never. Who knows. Maybe in few days a product, that suits you the best, appears at right price, and you purchase it.

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:37 PM

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@mighty yacht never going to happen. Im a real prick when it comes to my money. Its all over until they make some changes

old drum May 5, 2020, 6:38 PM

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If you're that picky with spending money, you gotta start spending it with more dilligence

sullen lion May 5, 2020, 6:38 PM

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I don't think hamstringing a production cycle over the possibility of the asset going free is a viable business alternative. Especially if the asset drives some fundamental aspect of your game. Simple meshes, maybe textures, or sounds... sure.

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You will eat way more cost by yanking around a character controller or inventory system a few months into using or making your own.

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No context here though, maybe you're getting annoyed at icon packs

spiral kernel May 5, 2020, 6:40 PM

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yeah, agreed on no context

sullen lion May 5, 2020, 6:41 PM

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I'm sure it was stated which pack was made free, I'm just not gonna scroll

graceful arrow May 5, 2020, 6:50 PM

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Wait a moment.. if a creator puts their pack on sale with a discount but I bought full price... do I get a voucher as more people will buy it as it's cheaper? 😄

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[/sarcasm]

delicate dove May 5, 2020, 6:52 PM

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when my pack became free for a month one person missed it by a few minutes, I managed to give him a refund trough the mp-team.

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I noticed it myself when the daily results where in and felt sorry :p

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 6:59 PM

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@graceful arrow see your sarcasm is the reason you are missing the point. As i stated earlier these are the options 1. They should get a voucher for the amount of the free item they already owned. ( 100% would be nice , but 50% could be acceptable) 2. They offer alternate free assets for those who owned the current free one already. 3. Give a full refund to the buyer since they are free now anyway . or 4. Lose customers like me who pay money for these assets and the rights to use them in UE4. Until the issue is resolved i wont buy another asset , ill wait unril the free program ends so i am sure my next purchase wont be on a product that will be free the next month. I know for a fact now I am not the only one who has made this decesion for these reasons . With that being said , even if you didnt lose money on a free asset , no one can say thats fair or makes sense compared to the model I have offered unless you are simply ok with people getting cut like this. Give me points on why the current system is better for you at leaset ? However the side comments are a waste of energy otherwise. I am trying to get something going to better the market for us all

graceful arrow May 5, 2020, 7:00 PM

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No, you are missing the point. You bought something months ago, have access to it for months. The fact that other also have access to it hasn't changed at all. The fact that it has become free is irrelevant.

delicate dove May 5, 2020, 7:01 PM

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have to agree with mo

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:03 PM

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Well we will see when its in front of an audience what happens next . For those here though that understand what i am saying , just let me know if you want to help push this more. I wont waste energy if you have no points , and so far there hasnt been a reasonable reply as to why what I am saying is wrong. Except for the toddler talk , "drama queen " and "Youre missing the point " when I started the point. You boys are off but it will all make sense soon

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Must have missed this part from earlier : EXAMPLE now that I know better i wont buy anymore. Now some creator that would have gotten some cash , never will.

graceful arrow May 5, 2020, 7:06 PM

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Monthly freebies have been around for around one and a half years. You made an informed choice when you made your purchase, you don't have exclusive rights and never have so more people having access isn't a point to be made. Not only that but there is no law that I am aware of that can compel a business to refund someone just because at a later time it either goes on sale, or becomes free. If there was, no one would have sales and the monthly freebies here for Unreal would not happen.

delicate dove May 5, 2020, 7:07 PM

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be mighty fine of you to not call people who are giving rather proper arguments toddlers, drama queens and such.

graceful arrow May 5, 2020, 7:08 PM

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It was someone who called Skillz1333 a drama queen, I believe he was quoting there

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:09 PM

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again , your argument is off base. If I spent the money and now have decided not to spend based of this event because of how i got screwed in the end. So all you saying that its my fault i know , I was stupid to support the artist on unreals marketplace with my cash , I should have waited out the free program. We all agree

delicate dove May 5, 2020, 7:09 PM

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speaking in general

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:09 PM

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@delicate dove um hmm , where were you when thats how people were coming at me ?

graceful arrow May 5, 2020, 7:10 PM

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Saying that you are missing the point is far from being "toddler talk", it's just commercial business practices. Things got on sale, things get put in bundles all the time, in any business. An asset pack shouldn't be any different from any other type of transaction.

delicate dove May 5, 2020, 7:10 PM

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imho it was all rather fine discussion wise.

tired pivot May 5, 2020, 7:11 PM

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@unreal eagle Hi, I spent couple of thousands on marketplace assets too and I don't understand your attitude, because when I was not able to purchase I was really happy that Epic is giving those beautiful assets for free and supporting the creator, and now I'm grateful when I have money to spend on those beautiful assets. There is some tradeof, pay when you want the asset now or wait for it to became free, what is your problem I don't understand.

graceful arrow May 5, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Should people get upset when things are reduced in price during seasonal sales?

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:12 PM

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@graceful arrow It was quotes , not my words. i agree the name stuff is wack. Give valid points and we can debate those peacefully. But when people on the internet have no good arguments they turn to that childish behavior. I was only stating facts of this conversation. I have not been rude to a single soul and qouldnt be be=cause I respect all opioions as i would hope someone would respect my own.

graceful arrow May 5, 2020, 7:13 PM

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It's not your opinion that I am questioning, it's the rational behind it that's puzzeling.

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If I had held off buying various assets that have either been given away free or have gone on sale I'd have a good few hundred pounds extra in my pocket. But that's just the way business works.

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:15 PM

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@tired pivot for the last time , its great they have free assets , but its not setup correctly for the CASH buyers. The should be rewarded if anything for there cash support , and instead you are punished in the end. I can solve this problem by not making another purchase , its simple as that , you are all right on that point and that IS MY POINT. Now no money vs the solutions i gave making CASH buyers happy.

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the free asset program is said to be ending this year , so i can wait until then no problem. If i have to wait longer , then so be it. In the mean time i am going to save a fortune from thos lol so it might be a good thing after all.

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30 days before i click the next free apps to download , hopefully next time i dont have them already LOL

tired pivot May 5, 2020, 7:19 PM

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@unreal eagle ok I agree that buyers that purchase every asset should be awarded somehow different than with free assets, because they already owns them, I think some kind of bonus program base of money you spent should be there

graceful arrow May 5, 2020, 7:21 PM

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Only buy what you need when you need it.

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:21 PM

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@tired pivot Thanks for actually considering what i am saying. I really am trying to make the market better in the end. I WANT to be able to spend my cash with out worry.

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@fickle basin from earlier "If I give you a $5 dollar voucher on my website where every item cost $10 dollars and its just virtual goods , i always profit."

north stirrup May 5, 2020, 7:25 PM

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If you buy something $10, epic gets less than $1.2

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:25 PM

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If you buy nothing epic gets 00

graceful arrow May 5, 2020, 7:29 PM

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and then there is tax too.

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:29 PM

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profit is profit.

north stirrup May 5, 2020, 7:29 PM

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lol you really don't get it do you - if Epic give you a $10 voucher, they loose $9

vapid matrix May 5, 2020, 7:30 PM

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nah he does not get it

north stirrup May 5, 2020, 7:30 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:31 PM

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To give you 10 dollars credit on even engines like steam , the reason you can only spend it THERE are because it only exist there in that virtual enviorment. They areacutally losing nothing but the progfits they would have gotten for the ones who paid for a free aseet already.

old drum May 5, 2020, 7:31 PM

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@unreal eagle you're already rewarded for your cash support - you get a license to use an asset, a weak license because you didn't pay a lot of cash for it

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I think the part of misunderstanding here stems from you not having an intuitive sense for the expenses involved in making assets

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The amount of cash you give over a marketplace asset is generally small compared to costs of producing full assets

vapid matrix May 5, 2020, 7:32 PM

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yes true but u sacrifice exclusivity

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:32 PM

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@old drum no , I ve been very very clear on where i stand and there is no confusion about it. Voucher prohram for those who paid for an item that becomes free. Without it its best to wait until it ends before you spend cash you dont have to,

old drum May 5, 2020, 7:34 PM

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Think of it this way, by paying for an item that went free, you've made a subsidy to all content creators. And their share went from like idk, 30% to 30.001%

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The prices you pay on marketplace aren't exactly grounded in any reality most of the time, they are just market prices

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Some expensive things are cheaper, some cheaper things are more expensive

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:34 PM

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In the end Unreal will lose 1,000+ that i would have spent for sure ( have items in my cart now seriously , they were for this weekend ) and now i 100% sure i wont unless this issue is addressed.

merry field May 5, 2020, 7:34 PM

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So, I make a pack and sell it on the Marketplace. Then, later on, it goes free. You want Epic to refund everyone, so they take back all of the money they've given me for the sales.

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Why would anyone ever want to make anything free?

old drum May 5, 2020, 7:35 PM

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@unreal eagle okay, but what if losing out on your 1,000 earns then 10,000?

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The net gain would be 9,000

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They have more information about the market and so we can deduce that from their point of view, they are making reasonably justified decisions

merry field May 5, 2020, 7:35 PM

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Sure, they could give it out as a voucher, but then I'm not going to get it, they'll buy something from someone else.

old drum May 5, 2020, 7:35 PM

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They might not be truly workable decisions, but they are justified to themselves. If they are doing this, they must be seeing extra profit

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So what argument would convince them to give up the extra money they can earn through their strategy

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:36 PM

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with free assets LOL nope and when more people have this same thing happen to them , they will also eventually realize its best to wait before you buy. Let the free program run its course and what you dont get , buy then. That is the smart mans move.

old drum May 5, 2020, 7:37 PM

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The smart mans move is to spend all this effort preparing a solid GDD or a pitching doc or a design document or whatever you want to call it and seeking funding & resources for doing it properly I think

merry field May 5, 2020, 7:37 PM

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My main conclusion from this conversation (which I'll admit I didn't read all of, as it's rather long) is that if at the end of the day people like this don't buy my assets, that's just as well. I'd rather not have the money than have to deal with someone who makes such a huge fuss.

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:38 PM

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@merry field see and they mad when i say childish LOL

old drum May 5, 2020, 7:39 PM

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The conversation runs in circles so it's okay to only read part of it

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It's kind of like a fractal, it gives you the same general idea no matter if you look at it up-close or on the entire conversation

graceful arrow May 5, 2020, 7:39 PM

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increase the base price by 10% to cover giving away a 10% voucher... 😉

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:40 PM

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@ebon leaf whats your store name ? Ill make sure to never buy from you in the year 2021 when the free assets end LOL

merry field May 5, 2020, 7:40 PM

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Now you're pinging random other people to the channel

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:42 PM

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what ? no im not LOL How old are you man ? thats a crazy accusation and I cant respect that. I hope the mods check ya

north stirrup May 5, 2020, 7:42 PM

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lmao

zealous spire May 5, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Hi.

ebon leaf May 5, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Wha

north stirrup May 5, 2020, 7:42 PM

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Hello Nameless

ebon leaf May 5, 2020, 7:43 PM

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Okay 👀

spiral kernel May 5, 2020, 7:44 PM

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facepalm

vapid matrix May 5, 2020, 7:45 PM

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lol i just want to check what you guys think about the monthly freebies but this is amazing^^

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 7:45 PM

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Ok because I typed the wrong name ??? LOL wth , cry me a river , I am typing on m,ultiple fronts and I type fast and sloppy. YOud say anything to get away from my valid points LOL

old drum May 5, 2020, 7:46 PM

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You're just ignoring anything we say so eventually there's little left than pointing out you pinged the wrong person

zealous spire May 5, 2020, 7:46 PM

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OK folks, time to step away and take a breather.

queen temple May 5, 2020, 8:06 PM

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Hey guys i bought this scratch off that saids i could win millions...but i scratched all the numbers and only won 5$ wtf gives? Anyone know the email to fllottery support...clearly thier system is flawed...

delicate dove May 5, 2020, 8:09 PM

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see @zealous spire's message.

unreal eagle May 5, 2020, 8:09 PM

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@queen temple LOL get that out of here. No wonder pfist wanted a break , the ridiculoness is starting to flow. Yeah , its unless its a good argument i wont be replying to anymore of this. Hit me up if you weant to help push this to where it needs to get for change.

sly nexus May 5, 2020, 9:23 PM

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in Supported Platforms of an item, when it has the Oculus icon, does that include the Oculus Quest?

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or should I be only looking for the Android icon for it?

minor stream May 6, 2020, 1:03 AM

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I've not been able to search or browse categories within the Epic Games Launcher Marketplace for a while now, I'm not sure if this is a local issue or a general issues at this point. (Both on Windows and OSX)

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Logs are showing "LogWebView: Uncaught TypeError: t.pushState is not a function", seems like a bug. But I can't confirm if that's my network or not

hot lagoon May 6, 2020, 1:56 AM

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The real reason not to buy hundreds of assets is because the client turns to dogshit i cant believe this is still a problem it's been freakin years write a new client

keen turtle May 6, 2020, 4:22 AM

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Guys, can I use animations from Paragon packs in my asset (as a demonstration) for the marketplace ?

uncut sedge May 6, 2020, 4:54 AM

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Am I the only one who noticed the $150 building pack that was free this morning is no longer on the free monthly thing?

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Oh, nvm it wasn’t showing for me. It is now

worthy pawn May 6, 2020, 7:56 AM

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The real reason not to buy hundreds of assets is because the client turns to dogshit i cant believe this is still a problem it's been freakin years write a new client
@hot lagoon this is unfortunately my experience also

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currently on my 3rd epic account and can't actually access any of the purchases I've made

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i reported this a couple of years ago now, would need to check the exact date

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latest from epic as of yesterday is that....

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i can view the vault via the website but absolutely ZERO chance of actually accessing the asset on local machine as the epic launcher can NOT cope with anything over a couple of hundred assets

hot lagoon May 6, 2020, 9:31 AM

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yeah im not opening new accounts i just stopped buying from unreal and lookup the assets and get them elsewhere when possible

worthy pawn May 6, 2020, 10:51 AM

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queen temple May 6, 2020, 11:56 AM

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@worthy pawn so at what point does it start acting up? They could easily resolve this if they allowed users an easier way to merge assets to create a "add to project" of our own

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Like own a lot of just 3d assets and materials i would love to smash together into a single pack

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Then add a check mark option "show in launcher" or something

worthy pawn May 6, 2020, 12:02 PM

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the launcher is a hybrid app so it's just wrapping content from web pages

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that in combination with the indexing / ajax search it employs means it starts failing when there is more than a page of results

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so without any optimisation in place it will crawl after 200+

queen temple May 6, 2020, 12:03 PM

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Could this be why the first time i open my library it crashes...i own several hundred paid assets

worthy pawn May 6, 2020, 12:04 PM

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as it loads everything on load

queen temple May 6, 2020, 12:04 PM

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I get a crash and then the next time I open it it actually loads is that what this bug is

worthy pawn May 6, 2020, 12:05 PM

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the "bug" for me is that the launcher is designed to work with maybe 100 assets efficiently

queen temple May 6, 2020, 12:05 PM

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I was communicating with epic on it they stopped kind of telling me any update on it

worthy pawn May 6, 2020, 12:06 PM

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when i try to access my launcher on either account i have to enter a search term to filter the results and even then there is a good 10 seconds of lag when i try to scroll through them. scroll wheel >> 10 seconds >> vertical position updates

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if i needed to grab an asset now it would take the best part of 15 mins to do it

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my first email about this to epic was

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that i can find under uemarketplacesupport@epicgames.com

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there are ones to them much earlier than that too

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so yea

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ah good

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i just figured it would have been addressed by now

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2 years is long enough for any sprint

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even at this level of ecom

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exactly. i figured given they had chosen to go that route we would see a launcher update in a few weeks

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but that was ages ago now.. 10+ months of free assets?

queen temple May 6, 2020, 12:39 PM

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They did a full year of it already..i think he means if you add all the freebie stuff like forever free and paragon...i havent bothered to do that cause it clutters my launcher as it is...the library need custom folders

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Cause alphabetical sorting on 1000 assets is terrible

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I want to make folders for storing things however i like...one for lowpoly assets one for staticmeshs one for plugins....we need custom folders!!

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I sure as hell am not resorting to making multiple accounts...why? So the day they finally fix it and you ask them to merge all the products you had to use a workaround to buy, they tell you "sorry we can't merge it for you" or take half a year to do it for you? No...they need to just fix it

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I hate to be this guy...but...i own over 1k steam games....and my steam launcher doesnt even hiccup on big picture mode showing me what i own...which i can sort into custom folders....so...

oak thistle May 6, 2020, 1:05 PM

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When this plugin will support 4.25?
Question on my free plugin, within 24 hours of engine release.

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I guess product question answers don't support gifs yet...

worn oyster May 6, 2020, 1:14 PM

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at least u get a free notification when there is a new version

merry field May 6, 2020, 2:02 PM

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I'd think they'll soon be getting to the point where everyone's library explodes

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There's been, what, 200 free assets already?

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I guess you're including the Paragon assets and things in that? I mostly meant the 200 in the free-for-a-month assets

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People aren't as compelled to "buy" all of those because they're not going away in 30 days

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But fair point

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What I more meant was that if you just pick up the free assets each month, as I'd say a large percentage of people do, then you'll already be getting close to the breaking point

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Especially if you also pick up the new permanently free assets each month (oddly, they didn't seem to have any of those this month?)

still perch May 6, 2020, 3:18 PM

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I'm not going to read that wall of text. But I did a quick skim to follow up with my comment from #epic-games-store. @unreal eagle
When you purchase anything in life the seller has the right to change the price of that item after, there isn't anything that protects you from that unless it's within a refund period, or you can somehow argue that the price given to you was unfair as it wasn't the same price others got and therefore potentially done on the basis of discrimination.
i.e. If you buy a car at full value and then 12 months later it's on sale for half the price, you can't expect the seller of the car to give you the difference back.

What you paid for was the privilege to access something before others did, if you didn't capitalize on that, then that is unfortunate, but calling it useless because others have access to it isn't fair to the creator of it.

I implore you, in the future either create what you need for yourself securing the rights of use or discuss the potential to purchase what you bought with the seller as a final sale under the conditions that it won't be resold again. You'll quickly realize that either of those options makes what you want more expensive than what you paid.

graceful arrow May 6, 2020, 4:52 PM

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dude, that discussion was yesterday 😄

worthy pawn May 6, 2020, 7:22 PM

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I'm not going to read that wall of text
that wall of text is the conversation 😂

unreal eagle May 6, 2020, 8:01 PM

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@still perch yeah , I can tell you did not read it LOL that wasnt even the point. So far me and several other pwople who understand the issue have opted to no longer BUY assets. The smart thing to do is wait until the free program ends. Then Ill buy what I need that hasnt been given away for free. So some people here agree , some disagree. How many of them are actually buying assets ? who knows , but now that there is more than just me I know they will lose out on that cash. You can say it doesnt matter , but my point is it does. People who spend the cash should always feel safe spending there money , not debating the saftey of there purchase.

split iron May 6, 2020, 8:57 PM

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I don't know where to post this so it actually gets visibility, but there is a marketplace asset that is just the result of a youtube tutorial and no one should pay money for it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7IRbHvcIxY&list=PLT4SeajOa6mbF_zINb7qE5yc7-g1FaqaP&index=1 - https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/dynamic-interactive-foliage-plants-8-foliage-tool-and-interactive-sound
(I've done the tutorial myself)

still perch May 6, 2020, 9:06 PM

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I went and reread stuff, I see a bunch of people made the points I was trying to make 😄 I guess that sucks for you bro 👍 Personally I'm a big fan of all the free stuff and hope Epic doesn't stop giving things away.

split iron May 6, 2020, 9:07 PM

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@unreal eagle the thing @still perch seems to be missing is that it DOES suck for him. Because less sales means that being an MP dev is less viable. Means less products and less quality.

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It just isn't as visible as "omg free stuff"

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I haven't applied for my product to be made free, because I don't want to screw over the customers who supported the product

still perch May 6, 2020, 9:09 PM

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I mean, it really doesn't suck for me. I make my own stuff, I don't even use the stuff I claim from the market place.
But I imagine there is some sort of x number of claims = Y number of $$$ for the original seller, that's why I claim things.

split iron May 6, 2020, 9:09 PM

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For us devs the effect is empirical

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I can make more per hour than a single sale of my asset, the incentive was passive income from something I'd make for myself as it doesn't exist otherwise. But with reduced sales it is not worth the extra work to get it MP ready and offer support.

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I cancelled two plugins 🤷‍♂️

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I live in a country with extremely high rent and food and gas costs, so I can't do things just to be nice (that can only ever be a benefit)

still perch May 6, 2020, 9:19 PM

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The flipside, only high quality products will be worth buying on/making for the market place could be good for it in the long run. 🤷‍♂️

split iron May 6, 2020, 9:19 PM

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My point is they wont get there in the first place 🙂

thick sluice May 6, 2020, 9:22 PM

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anyone have experience with Flight Animation blueprint (excalibur studios) vs Dynamic Flight with Blueprints (Hammerhead) looking to create a space themed game with jetpacks

unreal eagle May 6, 2020, 9:36 PM

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Yup @split iron gets my point exactly. As i have said I buy so much , but now that i have to stop to not RISK buying something else that will be given away for free ( this is where my solution comes in as alternatives to my fears) creators will miss out on that cash as well as Epic since they also get a cut from each purchase. Again , if you have money to spend NOW , you shouldnt. You should instead wait out the rest of the Free marketplace items. Once the free asset program has concluded , then buy wihtout worry because no one seems to care that you support the platform with your hard earned cash any way. Just make some qucik space holder assets in blender if you have to , but the wait is worht it with the current model they have in place.

still perch May 7, 2020, 12:08 AM

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This conversation made me realize that there are two sides to every action and that even if you do what you think a nice thing some people will still complain, all you can do is try to make more people happy than unhappy. I think I understand how Jeff Bezos thinks a bit more. Thank you for the insight, learned something new today.

leaden root May 7, 2020, 12:08 AM

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If you buy a game and it has a free to own weekend on steam 6 months later should you get refunded for your purchase?

raven ferry May 7, 2020, 12:23 AM

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by his logic: yes/a cupon/thats different

delicate dove May 7, 2020, 12:25 AM

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can we please drop this :)

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 12:28 AM

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@delicate dove I am curious why you would want to stop a fair and good conversation about a marketplace issue/though in the #fab section ? Is it bad for business or something ? not to be snarky , but i do not get the harm in it. Some agree some dont , but the conversation is one with merit.

delicate dove May 7, 2020, 12:29 AM

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because the conversation is not evolving, and I am mainly talking about the snarky remarks.

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or at least, the initial topic isnt going anywhere.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 12:31 AM

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hmmm , i see several people who at first thought i was just being petty , now coming over to my side in agreement. The convo is for sure making an impact and sometimes people just need to hear it in a way that suits them When it does , they get it.

delicate dove May 7, 2020, 12:32 AM

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well, just keep it civil and all is good.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 12:57 AM

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There are at this point 11.2k assets on MP and the list is growing. Epic is releasing 5 assets per month for free. What are the chances that you will get what you need?

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this is 0.04464285714285714146316863537578001341898925602436065673828125**%**

delicate dove May 7, 2020, 1:02 AM

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besides one pack, I gotten what I needed for a project :p

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though, only using it for blockout/testing phase

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 1:03 AM

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yeah but i believe you got what you could use for your project. not exactly what you was expecting for

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Like, next month i want that asset then boom

delicate dove May 7, 2020, 1:04 AM

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more like, I purchased that pack last month. boom.

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but you win some, you lose some.

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and im fine with it

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 1:04 AM

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yeah

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it happened to me with some assets as well. i don't really care. the amount of free stuff i get with that makes up for it.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 1:24 AM

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Its cool for the people who dont care , however rare that may be. All I know is I took the time to add up the amount for everytime I have bought only for it to become free and I would have had an extra 1,000+ in my pocket had i just waited. For that reason it would never make sense to take the risk again until they make adjustments to the program for paying customers or the free program ends. Most games wont be ready simply from buying a pack , so there is no harm in waitting it out. Polish everything else then worry about the assets you can buy. Save yourself the pain of feeling unappreciated.

elfin plinth May 7, 2020, 4:24 AM

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There are at this point 11.2k assets on MP and the list is growing. Epic is releasing 5 assets per month for free. What are the chances that you will get what you need?
@hasty nexus actually most of the expensive assets I've ever bought from Unreal MP has gone free so far

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so pretty darn good changes

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I don't think it's good for the asset publishers in general that there are waves of free assets flowing in

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seeing all the assets you've bought with your hard earned money going free doesn't really make you feel like you should by any that stuff anymore, unless you really really need it right now

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:26 AM

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I'm also a publisher but i don't think too much about that. if a person wants it, he will get it, maybe not this month, not the next one, but he will get it at some point if it's not getting free

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so we're good

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not everybody decides to wait for the asset to get free the same month

elfin plinth May 7, 2020, 4:26 AM

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it does inevitably lower the willingness to purchase though

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:26 AM

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there might be an impact, but it's not the end of the world

elfin plinth May 7, 2020, 4:28 AM

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freebies on the EGS is totally different, they are usually new titles to EGS in general, so if you buy something, you'll not really see it going free few months later

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I wonder if they could do something similar for marketplace as it would kinda solve this issue

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:29 AM

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i guess things still have to settle.

elfin plinth May 7, 2020, 4:29 AM

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users woudn't feel left out of a great deal/getting buyers remorse when they wouldn't see the asset they bought going free + there wouldn't be a reason to not buy interesting looking assets as you'd have some sort of guarantee you're not going to get it for free in some months later by any chance

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:30 AM

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overall, getting few hundred bucks worth of assets for free each month, even though I'm not using most of them, it's still good

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things like that are bound to happen. you might get a little bit salty if you purchased it before, but thousands of others are happy

elfin plinth May 7, 2020, 4:31 AM

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people who didn't feel like paying for the asset in past, yes

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so most of them weren't even super interested on getting it

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:32 AM

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didn't feel like paying, didn't have the money, weren't decided and so on

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most of the buyers on MP are indies. and i'm sure a lot of them want stuff but can't afford it.

elfin plinth May 7, 2020, 4:34 AM

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pretty sure most of MP buyers are hobbyists tbh

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:34 AM

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for my country, 300$ worth of assets are over half of the minimum wage. The MP is global. So it's not about only not enough interest to buy it. I'm sure a lot of people are super happy about it

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yeah, indies or hobbysts

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you're right

elfin plinth May 7, 2020, 4:35 AM

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oh I'm not against free stuff

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I just don't think the current way they are dealing it is beneficial for ue4 ecosystem

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:36 AM

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it's not perfect from publisher's perspective

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but i don't see it like something that breaks you

elfin plinth May 7, 2020, 4:36 AM

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one approach to help it would be to not allow assets as freebies that are less than one year old

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and make sure everyone knew that

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that being said, most assets on freebies are more than year old :p

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:37 AM

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yeah, that's a good thing. another thing would be to prioritize based on popularity.

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assets with high interest should be put out more often

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but i don't think they measure that.

raven ferry May 7, 2020, 5:46 AM

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the Dev has to apply and Epic has to accept

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its safe to say that most assets will never go free for the month

merry field May 7, 2020, 10:07 AM

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Close to the Sun was an Epic exclusive game, was on sale for a couple of months and then was given out for free

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(Probably because it didn't sell very well?)

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So the EGS isn't exclusively giving away things that haven't been on there before

mighty venture May 7, 2020, 1:45 PM

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Did I miss the spring sale?

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 1:56 PM

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There was however a sale.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:10 PM

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@raven ferry solution 5 is born ,,, "the Dev has to apply and Epic has to accept" If this is true a good solution based off this would be to inform that dev that prior purchases will be refunded. This way if they have made more than 7,000 via sales , they wont even apply. If they have not , then this will not only help them to get a bit of exposure , but also the 7,000 that we assume they are paid for making there asset free. With this version , no one will miss out.

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:12 PM

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If sales dry up though, being accepted to the monthly giveaways is a good way to get money.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:12 PM

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o and the refund counts as market place credit to be clear

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yeah but thats just greedy when there are so many good assets that never even get a chance. I think its nice to help the little guy out every noww and then

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:20 PM

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If you sell on the marketplace, you are attempting to make money as a business. It makes perfect business sense to apply if sales have dried up.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:21 PM

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I agree , as long as they havent made 7,000 already. If so , then it would be best to let someone else who hasnt made the 7,000 get the money and exposure as the big seller already pulled it off.

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:23 PM

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Applying doesn't mean acceptance, and there is nothing stopping lesser known creators from applying either. 7000 is not a lot of money as far as asset creation goes, the vast majority of assets are very under priced as it is.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:24 PM

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@unreal eagle currently the 5 solution is live. Publishers have to apply for the free for the month program. Epic will consider the applications.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:24 PM

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@hasty nexus not in the model i am describing.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:25 PM

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They don't put free for the month assets without the dev applying for it with his product.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:25 PM

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yes I know

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:25 PM

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The above solution really doesn't make sense, if they make 10k through actual sales and put it on the monthly for 7 but have to refund 10k, that's just bad business.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:27 PM

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what i am saying is that BEFORE they aply , they would need to consider how much they have already made off of there asset. Then if they made say , 1,000 for example , it would make sense for them to apply and take the 1,000 loss to gain 6000. Where as if they had already made 10,000 , it wouldnt make sense for them to aplly and possibly get approved for a loss do to the refunds that will be issued as credits when that asset goes free.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:28 PM

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look, if they take bad business decision for them, it's their own thing. If someone makes 10k and gives the asset for 7k, it's their thing. We shouldn't worry about that. Maybe they hope for some fast cash.

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:28 PM

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Not really, as if you consider it from a use perspective in that you are giving hundreds of thousands of people the asset for free, being compensated with 7k is actually not very much.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:30 PM

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@hasty nexus LOl if they want to do that , but my point is they wouldnt. They would much rather have both.

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:31 PM

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You also have to consider where that money is. Money generated from the sale of assets goes to the creator, who then probably moves it to another account. Bulk refunds couldn't be directly taken from the creator so who covers it? Epic?

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:31 PM

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I caculated that already. Thats why in my example the seller that had made 1000 , ended up with 6000 as the funds for refunds would come from that

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:32 PM

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So only poor selling assets should be given away?

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:32 PM

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@graceful arrow that's why you have 45 days delay between the actual sale and the money sending to the seller.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:33 PM

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I think even some of the best assets would have a hard time making 7,000. Not all of them as I am sure some of them have. But that just means they are doing well enough that they dont need it to be free anyway. Meanwhile opther assets that we may have overlooked will get the shot instead

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:33 PM

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Yeah, 45 days isn't a long time really. I've know business not to pay invoices for much longer lol

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If you go to the marketplace to look for an asset you need you aren't going to overlook something. You spend time looking and researching.

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There even a couple of creators that I've bought more from, even though I don't need the assets. I simply wanted to support the creator. MP prices are on average too low so buying a couple of packs didn't seem a bad idea. I do the same with games, I've bought games made by solo devs, not because the game was amazing but I liked the direction it was going, and wanted to support them.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:38 PM

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assets are priced too low because people won't buy them to their actual worth.

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:38 PM

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Punishing creators, for wanting to make a decent living is not going to help the Marketplace.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:38 PM

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honestly I think the free assets from last month were wack and pretty much useless. So thats already a thing now. I have seen some cheap ones posted as freebies and they were good. You never really know what might pop up.

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:39 PM

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I think every asset given away are very useful, in the right settings.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:39 PM

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Punishing the poeple spending the money will hurt more

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and i dont think its a punisahment at all when you make 10,000 and decide you dont need the 7

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:40 PM

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No, as if that was the case we'd see a drop in submissions seeing as the monthly giveaways have been going on for 18 months now.

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has the giveaways affected sales? probably, but it's not always easy to analyse that kind of data

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:42 PM

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so when the seller puts an asset at lower price to sell it because otherwise no one will buy it, when he sees the opportunity of 7k on that asset he will take it. I'm talking of course about low priced stuff, maximum 100$. The time for a seller to make 7k on some asset it's more valuable than what he actually makes out of it.

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in the end, thinking about it, consumers are ruining the MP.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:42 PM

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they had one on there from last month at I think it was $12

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and he still got paid

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:44 PM

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The race to the bottom is a psychological hurdle that many creators fail on. While it may benefit consumers on the short term, long term it means a lack of good content.

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As creators look to other avenues to make a living.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:45 PM

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@hasty nexus IF he hasnt made 7000 then they would definetly take the epic offer to make it free

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:45 PM

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i guarantee you that's not the case.

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i've seen free for the month with 0 reviews or questions.

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there's no way that product made 7k in sales

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:47 PM

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that means nothing , they could have 0 and 0 and still sale 100+ of the asset . I wish Unreal showed how many times n asset has been purchased. A lot of people including myself , dont leave reviews or have any questions. I have even seen sellers request a way to make it mandatory in some way.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:48 PM

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no. as a publisher myself i can most certainly tell you that's not true. Assets that do sale have some community engagement. From questions to reviews.

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to forums and such

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Sale figures should not be made public for any number of reasons. Do you think the same for food, clothing, cars?

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:49 PM

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I know they wouldnt do that , thats why i said I wish

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Do you think a refund is due if the asset gets put on a temporary sale?

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:51 PM

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a sale is a whole other thing. There are limits on that already

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:51 PM

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You should leave reviews @unreal eagle . You help others to know what's going on with the asset.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:52 PM

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yeah i plan to , I honestly didnt leave mine as i didnt want people to know what i bought. i use my same tag on everything

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:52 PM

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no one cares what you bought

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:52 PM

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monthly giveaways are exactly the same as a sale. It's just the percentage that is different.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:52 PM

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once my game is done ill go back and update that

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:52 PM

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The review is helpfull

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You think people will know you used asset MP because of your reviews? People on the MP are spot on when they see an asset from the MP in a game.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:54 PM

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maybe they dont care , but i like to pretend they do lol

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:54 PM

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as i told you yesterday or the day before. a car is a car, a tank is a tank.

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look at those tanks the squad game team put on MP. they don't care.

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a tank is a tank

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:55 PM

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Can you explain why you don't have a problem with discounted assets, but draw the line at 100% discount? That seems to be contrary.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:55 PM

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i gurantee you when you see my game youll swear i created every single thing. well I guess i mostly did create evrything but there are some assets in there. Well see if you spot them when you play it.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:56 PM

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haha. studios with high budget couldn't trick that. Look at PUBG :))

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i can identify a loooooooooooooooooot of assets from MP

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 3:56 PM

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a discount means someone still pays. Unreal has a program thats intended to make an asset free. Thats the diffrence.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:57 PM

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event that Dacia is taken from another website

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:57 PM

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Not really.

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a discount is a discount.

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Other Worlds has a fair few assets too.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:57 PM

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yeah, in the end, if you make good use of them, people don't care

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:57 PM

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yup

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:57 PM

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if you just make an asset flip game

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then that's the problem

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 3:58 PM

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That dragon game

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 3:58 PM

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which one?

hollow zephyr May 7, 2020, 4:05 PM

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100% scientific dragon game

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:12 PM

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ya know , i fibbed a bit. I actually left feedback 1 time on Street sign collections and it was absolutley garbage. the guy is lucky I didnt opt for a refund due to how long i waited to try some of it out.

lean venture May 7, 2020, 4:15 PM

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This set is near useless. I made the purchase for full price a while ago and really regret this one. The signs are not USA Standard signs and you cannot adjust the height or numbers on them. For example , 35mph is very common but not at all included in this pack. I highly reccommend you save yourself the hassle and instead purchase the Ultimate road side kit as that one comes with all the real stuff plus blueprints that you can adjust size among other things. This pack however is a huge waste of cash.```

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There isn't a single screenshot advertising a 35 MPH sign.

modern perch May 7, 2020, 4:16 PM

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I mean, you can clearly see the assets in the screenshots

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:16 PM

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hey now LOL you aint have to do that

modern perch May 7, 2020, 4:16 PM

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I assume the description also makes no mention of blueprints or otherwise adjustable stuff

lean venture May 7, 2020, 4:16 PM

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The USA standards are not universal, just like the USA is part of only a few handful of countries still using the imperial system in schools.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:17 PM

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yeah i thought i would be able to change the signs or something. End up just using the ultimate pack and adjusting those to suit my game

lean venture May 7, 2020, 4:17 PM

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Your review is entirely garbage, mark of a yet another bad customer dragging the marketplace down.

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No one gives a shit what you think.

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It's a business with clearly advertised assets.

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I'm surprised your review hasn't been removed yet.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:18 PM

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The review is still accurate. The signs do not meet US standard at all.

lean venture May 7, 2020, 4:20 PM

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This is accurate.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:21 PM

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o vlad , LOL so much salt

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 4:22 PM

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That's a bit ironic, don't you think?

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:23 PM

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you guys made me laugh :))

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 4:25 PM

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Salty reviewer complains about a salty review of his review.. comedy gold right here 😄

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:26 PM

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"As the icing on the cake, the signs are not 1 to 1 copies of real objects – they are made in the style of authentic signs, but all of them are customized and / or individual designs by our associate Martin C. from the UK."

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:))

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in the description

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 4:27 PM

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You mean.. there are descriptions? 😲

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:27 PM

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yup and i bought it and let him keep the money. Fact being now when people see the review they will buy something else. I did my part rather it was a bad purchase or not

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 4:27 PM

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aye, but it was your fault. Not the assets.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:28 PM

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its was desribed as US signs when i bought it

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:28 PM

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there should be an option for publisher to review buyers. something like uber

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:28 PM

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I bet my review made him change his tune

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:46 PM

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and boom found proof of that change ..... From his youtube page { Street signs, speed signs, easy to read signs...

Hello and welcome to our UE4 optimized Street Sign Collection Vol.1.

What you'll get for your money?

16 meshes with 56 skin variations (metals, logos), all optimized, LODed, with collisions and lightmaps.

US-style with own designs, so whether you want to go "almost authentic" or "purely fictional", but in either case stay legally safe and sound - grab those signs. Right now.

Best regards & looking forward to your comments!

hollow zephyr May 7, 2020, 4:47 PM

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why did you even buy it if you needed 35MPH and height adjustable? that's not advertised and not visible in screenshots 😆

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:49 PM

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"almost authentic" or "purely fictional" he clearly said that even before

hollow zephyr May 7, 2020, 4:49 PM

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as US signs it was US-style, "almost authenthic"

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:49 PM

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I jsut went with a US styled kit thinking it had tro be in there. Yeah I could have looked through it a bit better , but I thought it was what it said and ended up finding out the hard way it wasnt. Then I figured hey ill just fix them , but then to many other issues with them still

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:49 PM

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he didn't say 100% replica

hollow zephyr May 7, 2020, 4:50 PM

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I think you should delete that review or edit it to say that YOU've made a mistake and didn't read the description or looked at the screenshots before buying

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:50 PM

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you should change your review.

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you clearly pooped on that guys work without any reason

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:50 PM

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no reason to , its accurate regarless. The signs are usaless for the USA

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:51 PM

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see, you're not reasonable and you don't accept the fact that you're wrong

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 4:51 PM

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If the US thing was in the original description, I'd have contacted the seller directly.

hollow zephyr May 7, 2020, 4:51 PM

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you're totally wrong @unreal eagle just man up and to the right thing

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:52 PM

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yeah and change it to what ? its great ? LOL

merry field May 7, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I probably shouldn't ask, but with regards the sales, where is the line drawn? 10%, 30%, 50%, 70%, 90%, 99%, or only 100%?

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 4:53 PM

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give it 4 stars with: Meets expectations

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 4:53 PM

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only 100, I asked already

hollow zephyr May 7, 2020, 4:53 PM

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I wanted it to have 35MPH and be height adjustable. They're not and not advertised as such, I don't know why I bought it lol4-5 stars. there, just copy paste it

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:56 PM

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Discount sales dont really matter . The point was this solution 5 "the Dev has to apply and Epic has to accept" If this is true a good solution based off this would be to inform that dev that prior purchases will be refunded. This way if they have made more than 7,000 via sales , they wont even apply. If they have not , then this will not only help them to get a bit of exposure , but also the 7,000 that we assume they are paid for making there asset free. With this version , no one will miss out.

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Discount sales don't matter? But according to you they do, if the discount is 100% You really don't see the contradiction you're making?

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 4:58 PM

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100% discount dosent exist , thats what wee call FREE

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 4:59 PM

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That, my dear fellow is semantics. If you look at the amount of discount offered on the marketplace, it is 100%.

merry field May 7, 2020, 5:06 PM

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So, simple solution. Epic need to stop giving out free Marketplace assets altogether, and instead mark them at 0.01 each

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Solutions have been given and the bottom line is even though yall hate my review LOL Its clear I spend money and even though I could have got it refunded it was bought along with about 20 other assets. I didnt even get to check it out until months later. With that being said I spend money in the market place , but no longer until the free program ends. Dosent this solve all issues anyone may have ?

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or they adjust the program to make cash spenders feel safe about what they purchase during this free give away thing they are doing. Then I and several others can start to spend again. Either way it works out for me

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:14 PM

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there are others of cash spenders that are fine with the fact they get free stuff

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 5:15 PM

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So if the choice is make changes that adversely affect sellers, or miss out of a few peoples purchases hmmm I know what I'd pick.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:15 PM

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yes there are and we said that the other day. Thats great , but i bet there are more in my position than not. Once it happens to you a few times , you learn you lesson

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 5:15 PM

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I've seen customers get barred from shops for having crappy attitudes before.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:17 PM

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whats a crappy attitude ? you talking bout my review ? there was no attitude in that , just my feelings about the product

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:19 PM

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unreasonable review which had nothing to do with what was advertised by the seller.

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 5:19 PM

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Demanding a reworking of the entire sales system, is somewhat bewildering. You don't seem to accept that you have no justification for acting out in such a manner.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:21 PM

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Im not demanding anything. I am just fine giving reccomending changes. If tthey decided to make them great , if they dont , ill just sit on my cash a while longer. Its really simple.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:22 PM

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you should work with the seller not poop on their work for no reason. these kind of reviews are making sellers not publish stuff therefore big money spenders like yourself not having anything to buy.

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not having anything to buy will put your game on hold

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you're partners not enemies

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you could have send an email to the seller: hey can you also make an 35 MPH?

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He probably would have, and your "feelings" would have been different

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see where i'm going with this?

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:24 PM

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well , I wish you would have seen the original listing. Either way , if someone was going to buy it I saved them from thinking it could be used for the USA which they are clearly designed for, but not good. The alternate i posted is the better option by 10x , and now they know it. So he might take a L from my review , but the guy who put in the work wont.

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 5:25 PM

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Again, missing the point,

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:26 PM

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if he would have made a 35 it wouldnt have mattered , you couldnt even resisze them. They had a bunch of issues and i opted to just not use them

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that other Sign pack is everything I wanted and more.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:28 PM

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maybe unity marketplace is also everything you wanted and even more. have you tried it?

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:28 PM

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unity is butt to me

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Unreal is the only way

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:29 PM

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i see

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:30 PM

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I love unreal , jsut because i want them to reward cash buyers instead of punishing us , does not mean i want to burn it all down LOL I just want it to be more fair

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:36 PM

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just so you know @unreal eagle, the publishers are bringing money to Epic, not the buyers. Just to sort this out a little bit. I feel like you're a little bit entitled with this status.

limber yacht May 7, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Asking for a refund because something went for free months after you bought it, is just retarded tbh. you buy something at that moment for that price it's listed..and also the privilege of using it all that time. I honestly doubt epic caring about you not buying their stuff..the marketplace is to help devs out without budget to have custom stuff made..ofc Epic also earns a bit with it but doubt it's anything worth mentioning compared to their other revenue's

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:37 PM

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the publishers are making money and that money comes from somewhere no matter how entitled you think that fact is

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whats really retarded is buying a pack that could be free next mopnth when you could have just waited . So in a way , yup i was retarded. Now i see the error in my ways. No I no longer spend cash until the free program ends

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:38 PM

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i just wanted to let you know that it's the publisher`s decision to put something there for you to buy. it's their decision to pay 12% to epic from sales.

limber yacht May 7, 2020, 5:39 PM

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I also buy a ton of assets..most just for fun and doodling. I don;t mind one bit when stuff goes for free. the thing is you never know when something will go free..so if you dont need something yeah just wait..you never know. If you want/need something at that moment then buy it or not ofc, while knowing it might go for free.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:40 PM

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so the publishers are facilitating the MP to work. Not the buyers. Buyers are plenty. Publishers not that many.

queen temple May 7, 2020, 5:41 PM

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Day 3......

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:42 PM

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lol

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there are tons of publishers on there , most complining that not enough people are making cash purchases. If what you said was true it would be the other way around

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hell I could post something on there in a week or so if I wanted that and so couldany of you. You just need a custom asset

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:44 PM

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try it

limber yacht May 7, 2020, 5:45 PM

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on another note finishing up my first marketplace pack today hehe, really wonder if some1 will find it worthwhile spending their cash on it hehe. exciting

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:45 PM

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nice @limber yacht

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good luck with it

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:45 PM

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@limber yacht will it be free in 2 months ? I think ill wait LOL

limber yacht May 7, 2020, 5:45 PM

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haha

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:45 PM

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you know there's gonna be like probably 2-3 weeks (usually) for approval process. so don't get too hyped 😄

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:46 PM

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@hasty nexus nah , the only thing ill ever post will be my own game. Coming very soon

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:50 PM

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@unreal eagle what i meant to say is, epic's getting money from publishers not from buyers. publishers are getting the money from the buyers. So thinking about it, publishers are the customers for Epic, and buyers are the customers for Publishers. Speaking of that buyer entitlement i was saying earlier. If publishers decides to keep it to gumroad or itch or whatever. there would be no buyers for MP

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:51 PM

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if publishers posted and no one buys there asset ,,, how do they make money ? exactly

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:53 PM

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what i mean, is publisher's job to keep buyers satisfied about their products. and it's epic's job to keep publishers satisfied. this is how i see it.

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your problem is with the publisher because he gave the product for free

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not with epic

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:55 PM

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epic you could say has other revenue streams , but that is not the topic of the debate. YOu must create supply for demand , publishers post for free , they only lose a cut when they make a sale. If everyone was to stop buying they would start to lose publishers as well. This is not what i want , but for your example this should clear that up.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:56 PM

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if a store in a mall would do the same, you would have a problem with the store not with the mall

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 5:59 PM

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epic could have applied the steps from idea 5. This would stop publishers from being so greedy as well as spreading the wealth a bit more. As far as the marketplace goes publishers and unreal go hand in hand. The diffrence being unreal is the mall.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 5:59 PM

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and if the product was old or underselling, it only makes sense for the store/publisher to make that move despite your feelings

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you only see your side

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but there's a bigger picture

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 6:01 PM

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well i have seen some in here durnig this very debate who feel its crappy to make an asset free that has been sold to so many already. I dont know , I think 5 is looking better and better.

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 6:02 PM

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but i hope you understand what i'm saying

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 6:03 PM

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if 1 product made 8000 and another made 150 , I think its clear who needs the boost

hasty nexus May 7, 2020, 6:03 PM

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listen, you'd do the same with your game if you ever finish it. you put it on steam, and for some reasons epic comes to you, listen, we're gonna give you 5 million $ to put your game on our store for free

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what would you do?

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and what would the people that bought the game on steam think?

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will you refuse the money to keep those steam buyers happy?

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 6:05 PM

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Games are not assets and have always deprciated at a differnt rate. For example , when games come out on day 1 youd pay 59.99 , while i would pay 26.50 from another source.

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youd never see a game go free in its first 2 motnhs to extend on that

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As said ealier if you made that choice instead of epic paying you 7,000 they would subtract the amount you sold. So if it was 3.5k youd lose nothing and your item would go free and you would get the recognition and users. It definetly works out .

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 6:09 PM

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Recognition does not pay the bills. That's akin to saying to an artist that they should give you their hard work for nothing as they'll get recognition from you using it.

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You know how many pubs try that with bands? It's rediculus.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 6:10 PM

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they dont have to do it . if you made 7 , you earned enough. its someone elses turn to profit. The argument earlier was that its to give jolt to slow or dying sales

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 6:11 PM

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I know you said it earlier but as sarcasm. Simply don't buy from the asset store. You can't seem to accept that your opinion in this is not the majority.

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 6:12 PM

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sounds to me like you want the ball in just unreal and the sellers court. Screw the buyer A

graceful arrow May 7, 2020, 6:12 PM

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Caveat emptor

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 6:13 PM

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also , I am not changing my review. He could put US back at anytime and this will make sure a potential buyer instead purchases the better pack

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no no no LOL tryna to attack and your not thinking straight. I meant US as in United states

merry field May 7, 2020, 6:16 PM

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That is wisdom

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 6:17 PM

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It would always go no where technically because none of us can change anything. It is up to unreal to consider these things and they will do what they think is best. My statments about what they could do better were my own opionions. Some people share my postiition , some dont. thats how the world is and im okay with that. Its actually wuite fun to have reasonable debates.

rigid kernel May 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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As far as the "free for the month" marketplace content goes. If we add it to our account during the free month, does that mean we can use it in our (hobby/commercial/other) projects forever without buying it? I assume that's what it means but wanted to make sure. The only difference between "free for the month" and "permanently free" is that you have to add it to your account during that month. But once its added to your account (by "free for the month" or "permanently free") then it can be used forever in any type of game project without purchasing it.

queen temple May 7, 2020, 6:27 PM

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Correct

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Its like buying it with a 100% off coupon

rigid kernel May 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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Thanks zethfox. Just wanted to make sure 👍

queen temple May 7, 2020, 6:28 PM

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🙂

unreal eagle May 7, 2020, 10:26 PM

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OK so , first off I always love unreal. Secondly , They have refunded my purchase as a 1 time courtesy. Thank the lord Unreal is legit ! sorry boys , I know you wanted me to eat that one.

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what shall i buy wuth it ? Hmm anyone have some good reccomendations on a asset ?

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Man i cant even tell you how happy I am that they actually did that for me. Companys be fummy sometimes and Unreal continues to suprise me.

split iron May 7, 2020, 10:40 PM

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Do the rules 1.3.a and 1.3.b prevent me using screenshots with paragon assets and MP environments (with a disclaimer saying they're not included) on my MP page?

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Maybe I should email Epic this one to be sure 🤔

thick sluice May 8, 2020, 8:26 AM

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how do i wishlist stuff on the UE4 marketplace

thick sluice May 8, 2020, 8:41 AM

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v.v

thick sluice May 8, 2020, 9:22 AM

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anyone know of some good futuristic HUDs on the marketplace?

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for hp bar/ energy /inventory / quests / anything

limber yacht May 8, 2020, 10:26 AM

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something like this: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/sdf-robo-progress-bars ?

SDF Robo Progress Bars by Krystian Komisarek in Materials - UE4 Mar...

Powerful master material usable for creating a wide range of customized progress bars.

cobalt crescent May 8, 2020, 1:20 PM

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I use that pack for my loading animation and it was easy to implement

solemn basin May 8, 2020, 2:55 PM

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hey does anyone know a good character model that is a robot which has separate lower and upper body modules? like I can swap out the upper and lower body, and the lower body rotates separately to the upper body
something like this http://www.igorstshirts.com/blog/conceptships/2012/galanpang/galanpang_17.jpg
or this https://static.turbosquid.com/Preview/2018/02/22__18_38_16/alexeyryabtsevmain.jpg210DEB51-5964-4A64-9D4F-8B36D558AA66Default.jpg
where you are able to freely rotate the upper body separate of the legs

tame compass May 8, 2020, 6:45 PM

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It seems the robot use socket system.

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You have interest on that ?

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I can make it.

shrewd ember May 8, 2020, 7:12 PM

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Has the Marketplace crapped out for anyone else?

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I just made a large purchase and I am still stuck on processing but it took the money 😦

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ahhh 15 minutes later.. Purchase completed. NVM!

tawdry vapor May 8, 2020, 9:47 PM

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Hey do I need to have a business to put something on the Marketplace?

merry field May 8, 2020, 10:10 PM

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No

delicate dove May 8, 2020, 10:39 PM

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might depend on the country as well, I had to start one.

merry field May 8, 2020, 11:18 PM

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Ah, that could well be. I know I didn't have to.

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Though it might still be a good idea for various legal reasons

split iron May 9, 2020, 3:19 AM

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What usually leads to getting showcased btw?

tame compass May 9, 2020, 11:28 AM

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Random.

tawdry bronze May 10, 2020, 1:45 PM

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How can I update my plugins after update from 4.24 to 4.25? Does it need an update of my tresor?

amber horizon May 11, 2020, 6:49 AM

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Short question:
We are two devs working on the same project (via git).

If I buy content from the marketplace and upload it to git with the entire project, can my partner dev work on it, too? Or does he get the 'missing plugin' error?

Thank you in advance.

real dust May 11, 2020, 7:41 AM

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@amber horizon For anything other than plugins it'll work out of the box. For plugins specifically, you will have to copy the plugin from your engine install folder to your project itself - by default plugins are installed to the engine version, rather than per-project

agile shadow May 11, 2020, 7:41 AM

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@muted reef I suggest you remove the part where you are asking people to give you pirated marketplace content

real dust May 11, 2020, 7:42 AM

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^Yeah that's not a great thing to be doing

amber horizon May 11, 2020, 8:15 AM

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@real dust Thank you. I understand it now.

muted reef May 11, 2020, 8:20 AM

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ok well does anyone have any templates that they have created for free? kinda looking for a street fighter type

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not pirated ofc

real dust May 11, 2020, 8:24 AM

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None that I know of. My suggestion would be to just get the hang of programming from general tutorials and such, and then use what you learn to do a fighter specifically

muted reef May 11, 2020, 8:26 AM

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yea

delicate dove May 11, 2020, 11:45 AM

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please report people who ask for pirated content instead of telling them to remove the request before we see it. because now we have no proof to ban. @agile shadow

agile shadow May 11, 2020, 12:18 PM

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I always assumed moderators could see message history. Will do next time in that casew

delicate dove May 11, 2020, 12:20 PM

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thanks. I do appreciate you warning the person as I rather see the text removed than potentially newcomers thinking its fine to discuss it. but we also want to enforce it rather strongly that its a nono

tender flame May 11, 2020, 4:04 PM

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@onyx flower
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/modern-city-downtown-with-interiors-megapack
is missing from Free for the month category

Modern City Downtown with Interiors Megapack (Urban Building / Buil...

Modern City Downtown with Interiors Megapack , The pack made by or team with big attention to details , quality of assets and unique concepts and as well as optimization , the pack includes 355 unique models

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onyx flower May 11, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@tender flame I'm seeing it on my end and not able to reproduce

tender flame May 11, 2020, 4:46 PM

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@onyx flower let me reboot the launcher

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nope, still missing from the filter
are you using this dropdown to set the filter?

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graceful arrow May 11, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Missing in web browser too, using the above

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Could be get a dark mode, too? 🙂

short flower May 11, 2020, 5:40 PM

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Yeah, not showing up for me either

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And it's the same on the launcher

outer chasm May 12, 2020, 2:32 PM

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the "Modern City Downtown with Interiors Megapack" has been correctly added to "Free for the Month" page

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raw temple May 12, 2020, 5:09 PM

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Imo the permanently free stuff should be in the Learn Tab

raw temple May 12, 2020, 5:37 PM

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Also the launchers performance is horrible

candid rivet May 12, 2020, 7:55 PM

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marketplace creators question. what do you guys do if you are building a blueprint asset, but absolutely need to expose something from c++ side.
is there an allowance for that?

graceful arrow May 12, 2020, 7:56 PM

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It becomes a plugin in that case

bronze pilot May 12, 2020, 7:57 PM

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the Unreal part of launcher is slate

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the rest is webbase

candid rivet May 12, 2020, 7:58 PM

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hrm, that kinda sucks, i don't want to make a code plugin, it's like 99.9% blueprint, i just need to be able to run a 3rd party executable. figured i might run into at least 1 or two things along the way that epic doesn't expose

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and ya, the launcher is pure awful

bronze pilot May 12, 2020, 8:04 PM

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its old

rapid ocean May 12, 2020, 8:22 PM

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has there been a spring sale yet?

honest bobcat May 13, 2020, 6:01 PM

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List your code plugin separately and make it free, then in the Blueprint listing make it bold at the top the free plugin is required?

delicate dove May 13, 2020, 6:03 PM

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epic doesnt randomly accept them being free

grizzled thunder May 14, 2020, 7:49 AM

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So uhh.. who's looking forward to porting their shop to UE5? 😅

hollow zephyr May 14, 2020, 8:07 AM

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Just gonna add some displacement and export the subdivided meshes 😅

grizzled thunder May 14, 2020, 8:08 AM

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brb... buying a new hard drive to store all these gigantic files...

north stirrup May 14, 2020, 8:11 AM

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certainly not plugin devs 😬

real dust May 14, 2020, 8:13 AM

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I'm sure you'll love it Phy

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All that new rendering stuff, I'm sure it'll be painless to integrate into your voxels

north stirrup May 14, 2020, 8:15 AM

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voxeldeath

real dust May 14, 2020, 8:29 AM

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Disregarding Nanite though, if Nanite's being adopted that means DX12U is being adopted, and I do think i.e. voxels would stand to gain from meshlets and such

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Would know where to begin on actually doing that though

graceful arrow May 14, 2020, 12:01 PM

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not a marketplace question, methinks

haughty skiff May 14, 2020, 1:11 PM

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Megascans models aren't compatible with 4.25.Do you know how long will it take for them to make them compatibles?

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 1:12 PM

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just import them to an earlier version and migrate. in theory all they need to do is update the version on the marketplace, or the bridge plugin, shouldnt take too long.

haughty skiff May 14, 2020, 1:14 PM

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New here, does that mean I have to download 4.24 as well?

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 2:01 PM

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havent checked quixel bridge so it might be updated soon, but yes

burnt gate May 14, 2020, 2:08 PM

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for me the 4.25 version of the bridge plugin has been available for a while

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 2:19 PM

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@opaque heart please read the #old-rules next time :)

dont multichannel post same thing, 2, only post marketplace content in #released

rigid hound May 14, 2020, 3:08 PM

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Does anyone know of products in the marketplace that extend Unreal with new geometry primitives

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 3:09 PM

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dont think so, havent seen that happen since ued 2.5

rigid hound May 14, 2020, 3:10 PM

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@delicate dove any suggestions how to find resources that could build such products?

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 3:11 PM

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noooo clue.
dont know how tarquin did it back in the day either.
might need to look at source or find someone who knows whats up

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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Is anyone having trouble getting onto Epic Games launcher?

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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yup

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:22 PM

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anyone know the course?

graceful arrow May 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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gremlins

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:23 PM

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so a glitch?

outer chasm May 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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server overloaded cause of people joined for take the free game

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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which is what btw?

outer chasm May 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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GTA V

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:26 PM

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u kidding me

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I JUST BROUGHT THAT CRAP!

outer chasm May 14, 2020, 3:27 PM

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or that is what all sayed

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:28 PM

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I'm so mad rn if it is

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also when will the launcher be back up does anyone know?

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 3:29 PM

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when half the world finished downloading gta :p

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:29 PM

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wait Premium whats the difference?

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 3:29 PM

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all online dlc

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:29 PM

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WAIT LUOS U 4 REAL!

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 3:30 PM

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just a guess, and i never played the online part

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:30 PM

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I got GTA V from Steam but I may as well get it here as well

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I have a USB hard drive I use

outer chasm May 14, 2020, 3:31 PM

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is italian xD

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:31 PM

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LOL

outer chasm May 14, 2020, 3:31 PM

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(i am italian)

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:33 PM

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also this is annoying as I wanted to start my Game Project for my Company 😠

outer chasm May 14, 2020, 3:34 PM

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yeah I think is better if separete the Unreal engine section from the Game Store

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on server too

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:34 PM

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Yea

outer chasm May 14, 2020, 3:35 PM

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or maybe to an Offline mode for use all unreal assets without this boring things

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:35 PM

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that could work MODS KEEP NOTE

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 3:37 PM

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we mods dont have anything to do with epic games :p we could make notes but itll end there :p

simple cave May 14, 2020, 3:37 PM

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oof

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well thats BS

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 4:16 PM

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servers are strained due to everyone downloading gtaV

simple cave May 14, 2020, 4:55 PM

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I'm down for that

real dust May 14, 2020, 4:58 PM

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Yeah, I've honestly been astounded since the very beginning that EGS and the dev-side share client and servers

merry field May 14, 2020, 6:15 PM

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UE4 can still be started just fine without the launcher

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Just open your .uproject directly

real dust May 14, 2020, 6:17 PM

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Yeah the actual engine can

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Marketplace assets cannot

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Engine versions cannot

merry field May 14, 2020, 6:19 PM

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Well, yes, you can't download things

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All the Epic site are basically dead at the moment

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Guess they all use the same CDN

real dust May 14, 2020, 6:22 PM

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I personally think it'd be nice, and not that unreasonable, if Epic were to actually split their back-ends in two so that devs don't get hammered by their PR stunts

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But alas

merry field May 14, 2020, 6:22 PM

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Eh, I don't know about that, but the front-end should certainly be split

real dust May 14, 2020, 6:23 PM

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Front-end for sure, back-end would be nice because it'd mean we would still be able to do things when the consumer-side is down

merry field May 14, 2020, 6:25 PM

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I wonder if there's also issues in Fortnite?

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Or does that use a separate backend

real dust May 14, 2020, 6:26 PM

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I suspect there's also Fortnite issues

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Unless they've moved that over in the past year

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My thesis presentation got into a precarious situation because Epic's servers went down courtesy of Fortnite while I was doing a dev-related presentation

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Which was a bit awkward because I needed the launcher

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And I've never heard them say that they've done anything about it, and it seems like the type of thing Epic would trumpet out to us in pride 😛

normal gull May 14, 2020, 7:25 PM

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epic rn: https://i.redd.it/zxkjrqj92ry41.png

delicate dove May 14, 2020, 7:26 PM

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lol

thick sluice May 14, 2020, 8:09 PM

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anyone know of an asset similar to Weapon Component that's a bit more updated? https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/weapon-component

Weapon Component by Quick and Easy in Blueprints - UE4 Marketplace

A blueprint based Weapon System. Multiplayer support. Contains weapon logic (firing/spawning/switching/weapon animations...) and weapon presets, character animations, aims, drop and pick up, etc. Current version: Update3.1

willow oriole May 14, 2020, 9:47 PM

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can someone tell me how to have my megascans account set in unreal to buy and import direct from there as bridge never seems to work right for me it always hangs when trying to download or export to unreal

tulip scarab May 15, 2020, 8:46 AM

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is there a wishlist planned in the near future?

ebon leaf May 15, 2020, 9:17 AM

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Am just wondering if you buy an assets from the market place and you share it with friends is that thing?

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Or it's more likely not allowed?

real dust May 15, 2020, 9:18 AM

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It's not allowed

ebon leaf May 15, 2020, 9:19 AM

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@real dust Let's say you and your other friends bought something together you can only use it on 1 project?

real dust May 15, 2020, 9:19 AM

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Besides using them for learning, experimenting, or prototyping, you may use Marketplace products in your own shipped products.

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So the entity that purchased it can use it on any of their projects

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Other people who might be working on one of those projects are allowed to work with it within that project

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But they are not allowed to use the marketplace products for anything else

north stirrup May 15, 2020, 9:20 AM

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You're not allowed to buy something as a group - in the end, there's only one owner

ebon leaf May 15, 2020, 9:21 AM

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phy lets say you use it on multiple projects, i just want to know how to show the license for these cases

real dust May 15, 2020, 9:21 AM

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The owner case use it on any of their projects

north stirrup May 15, 2020, 9:21 AM

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https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/marketplace-distribution-agreement

Unreal Engine

Marketing Distribution Agreement

Unreal Engine is the world’s most open and advanced real-time 3D creation platform for photoreal visuals and immersive experiences.

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read this

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it's straightforward

real dust May 15, 2020, 9:22 AM

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That's literally it

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Any project that is owned by the person that bought it can use it

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That is all there's to it

north stirrup May 15, 2020, 9:22 AM

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https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/marketplace-faq

Unreal Engine

Unreal Engine | Marketplace FAQ

Unreal Engine Marketplace FAQ

real dust May 15, 2020, 9:23 AM

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So if you have some friends collaborating on one of your projects, they can use the pack for that project, but not for anything else

north stirrup May 15, 2020, 9:23 AM

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ebon leaf May 15, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Oh Goosey that's great am really glad that you guys explained

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One last question i found some of the stuff are free on market place [Free for the month / and other free stuff]

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Are these free to use in any project?

real dust May 15, 2020, 9:26 AM

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They are

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They have the exact same license as a regular marketplace pack - your rights are the same as if you'd purchased it

ebon leaf May 15, 2020, 9:36 AM

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It wont be a problem if i don't have the same assets in my account correct?

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As it is a free thing from the market place

real dust May 15, 2020, 9:37 AM

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For that project, no

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You cannot move it out of that project into one of your own

ebon leaf May 15, 2020, 9:38 AM

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But isn't it free?

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Still not allowed?

lean venture May 15, 2020, 9:41 AM

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@ebon leaf If it's a free product, just make everyone "buy" it so they get the license annexed to their account. You're overthinking this. Legal stuff sometimes doesn't make sense and other times it's just stupid.

real dust May 15, 2020, 9:43 AM

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@ebon leaf So then you go "buy" the free thing, and then you've got a license to use it as well

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But until you do that you don't technically have the rights to use it in your own projects

worn oyster May 15, 2020, 10:27 AM

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some free stuff has the unreal logo on it , not allowed to pop that in unless permission

merry field May 15, 2020, 10:34 AM

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The monthly free assets are basically a sale with a 100% discount

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So everything is the same as if you'd bought them for money

ebon leaf May 15, 2020, 12:19 PM

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@fickle basin Did that really happened 😄 ?

ebon leaf May 15, 2020, 1:00 PM

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Can't you just take it down?

merry field May 15, 2020, 1:27 PM

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Piracy is one thing, but reselling them? That's evil

graceful arrow May 15, 2020, 2:29 PM

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I'm of the view that if someone gets a pirated version of whatever, be it software, movies etc they probably wouldn't have bought it anyway. The amount of effort companies go to to prevent piracy is probably costs more than the gain.

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Reselling is a different kettle of fish altogether, report them to Epic and hope they can do something.

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I remember a few years ago Sony's CEO of Entertainment said piracy wasn't adversely affecting sales at all. He reckoned - and several other bodies agree - that in the music industry at least piracy helps real sales. Reason being that more people heard various bands through copied works, which then led them to buying the artists albums. I know recently a dev released his game on Steam and on Pirate Bay at the same time, he said people who pirate software probably either were never going to buy it or couldn't afford it. His steam sales increased 400% in one week.

fluid cargo May 15, 2020, 4:47 PM

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Do creators still not receive a notification when someone asks a question on the market?

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I see. Thanks.

merry field May 15, 2020, 5:55 PM

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You can either get an email when someone asks a question, or a daily summary of all questions per day

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(or both or neither)

ebon leaf May 15, 2020, 10:12 PM

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@fickle basin How hard was it publishing an assets ? or what is the most difficult part you faced?

lament wasp May 15, 2020, 11:37 PM

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Oh, no you misunderstood.
How many big Players of the gaming Industry use pirated assets?
There are musicians who make Money, but have pirated Software Like FL Studio , Ableton, VST Plugins and similar.
@fickle basin

I've pirated tools before, usually in absence of a fully featured trial. I'd never pirate a tool, create usable content, and then not buy it, though.

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Not a big player though. Very small team.

ebon leaf May 16, 2020, 9:21 AM

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hi ! does anyone like to help me with this ? i can make a big world but there is some world compisition with this, i would like to know more about this anyone who played alot with this plugin ?

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north stirrup May 16, 2020, 9:30 AM

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😬

real dust May 16, 2020, 10:34 AM

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Because he's got an existing customer-base

north stirrup May 16, 2020, 10:53 PM

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@fickle basin I've hacked the marketplace ofc

gaunt flicker May 16, 2020, 11:29 PM

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guys

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I got a fraud refund for Linter v2

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its free

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just letting you sellers with free assets out there

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you might have fradulent purchases <_<

last mango May 16, 2020, 11:40 PM

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Heh

north stirrup May 17, 2020, 12:11 AM

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lmao

hasty nexus May 17, 2020, 4:10 AM

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@north stirrup don't you have a problem with the fact that people might think that Voxel Plugin on the marketplace is the basic version of your PRO plugin? Congrats on your marketplace debut.

north stirrup May 17, 2020, 4:10 AM

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@hasty nexus Shouldn't be an issue anymore once Voxel Plugin FREE will be up

hasty nexus May 17, 2020, 4:11 AM

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oh, ok, that makes sense

north stirrup May 17, 2020, 4:11 AM

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and there's not much I can do about it anyways - whether I like it or not, CodeSpartan was here first

hasty nexus May 17, 2020, 4:11 AM

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yeah, and name changing wasn't an option as you would lose identity. yours is much more popular

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anyway, glad you finally decided to bring it on the mp

north stirrup May 17, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Thanks 🙂

north stirrup May 17, 2020, 8:23 AM

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@fickle basin I do not

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and even if I did he was here before

hasty nexus May 17, 2020, 4:14 PM

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@gaunt flicker probably when the thief used the stolen credit card info, he had the shopping cart full of several items including yours.

coral pollen May 17, 2020, 4:15 PM

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Hi does anyone know a plugin which optimize meshes / combine materials? I try to reduce the draw calls directly in the engine 🙂

nocturne scaffold May 17, 2020, 4:46 PM

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Did the marketplace just crash?

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i cant seem to access anything for the last 20 minutes. lol

pure pendant May 17, 2020, 10:58 PM

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I was wondering something when i buy stuff on the marketplace sometimes there are alot of controls on BP's that are exposed and changeable in the editor others you have to go searching thru the blueprint to find stuff to twweak even though they are obvious things to tweak - like why dont people make that stuff exposed and make it easy - is it hard to do ? Is there a tutorial on how to do that so I can make the stuff I buy easier to manipulate ?

merry field May 17, 2020, 11:32 PM

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Isn't it just making the variables exposed to editor?

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The simple answer is quality - people who do things properly will expose any relevant variables

pure pendant May 17, 2020, 11:49 PM

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ok i thought so but so much of stuff isnt exposed - so i just dont get it

pure pendant May 18, 2020, 1:55 PM

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but what if its deep in the parent blueprint and you are using a child of it - do you have to search down thru the parent to find the variable and if you expose it will it rise up to the child ? - I'm trying to see if i can take this VR Pawn and get all its controls exposed to the editor

merry field May 18, 2020, 3:10 PM

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Exposed variables are inherited by children, yes

honest bobcat May 18, 2020, 11:35 PM

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Maybe even think about possibly adding enums to select hidden preset controls, if you're exposing all the vars that'll make important controls obscured by the noise.

A use case: if you have an enum to start the Pawn in a stealth state you can under the hood set the movement acceptance radius small, make the movement slow, and enable checking corners instead of accidentally forgetting to manually set one, versus the enum being combat state to make perception cone bigger and setting movement to fast.

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Or create a child class and set the hidden controls, and now you have a prefab to place like a spawner. If you have an archetype and want to change the weapon later you won't manually need to update every instance in your map.

fringe cipher May 19, 2020, 3:40 AM

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hey does anybody know if there is a way to merge all market place assets to one account? cause i have three different epic games accounts and i have purchased assets on all of them that i would like to combine to my dev account

merry field May 19, 2020, 8:55 AM

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You'd have to email support

odd wyvern May 19, 2020, 1:25 PM

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Are the megascan assets free forever or are they like the other free for a month assets type of thing?

hollow zephyr May 19, 2020, 1:27 PM

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@odd wyvern free forever

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you can get quixel bridge and download anything that is not already on the marketplace as a pack, after you link your epic account

odd wyvern May 19, 2020, 1:29 PM

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Cool, thanks

graceful arrow May 19, 2020, 1:31 PM

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you can download anything that is also in the marketplace, as all the MP packs are, are collections of existing assets. Best to get them using Bridge anyway as the MP packs contain all the texture resolutions etc, and as such the files are huge.

honest bobcat May 19, 2020, 4:51 PM

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Is it possible to rate a marketplace item without leaving a written review?

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Have seen things with 10 to 20 star ratings but only 3 written reviews

hollow zephyr May 19, 2020, 5:04 PM

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I think those were the old reviews but the system got changed, old comments got deleted and only the star rating remained

honest bobcat May 19, 2020, 6:37 PM

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Reviews feel hollow since we can only really leave 4 or 5 stars with a 3 star here and there, but guidelines err on 1 or 2 star reviews being taboo. Not that there aren't 1 or 2 star rated items, but they're far and few between, likely from the old review system. Go to a category like Props or Blueprints, show 100 per page, then go to page 4 or 6 (since newer page negative reviews are probably awaiting moderation review for removal).

If something is broken and you leave a bad review, once the author addresses it they can report the review to be removed since it doesn't reflect current product state, even if it might have taken better part of a (or full) year to get that fix. At that point you can leave a review about support not being stellar but author can report that review to be removed on the basis it's not about the product, even if others find value in knowing what to expect should something go wrong in that or future products from an author.

thick sluice May 20, 2020, 4:35 AM

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Can someone help me, does this work for 4.25? https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/user-interface-kit

User Interface Kit by Christianos Philippos in 2D Assets - UE4 Mark...

The User Interface Kit offers a collection of widgets, icons and UI elements for your projects.

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or is there a better option? This plugin looks amazing but sadly it hasn't been updated

delicate dove May 20, 2020, 12:04 PM

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you could try this: https://youtu.be/XwKuuUpJT3A

YouTube

WorldofLevelDesign

UE4: How to Update/Convert Projects to New Version of Unreal Engine...

Full Blog Post w/Notes: http://www.worldofleveldesign.com/categories/ue4/ue4-convert-update-projects.php

Unreal Engine 4 Tutorials List: http://www.worldofleveldesign.com/categories/cat_ue4.php

In this tutorial you will learn how to convert/update an older project that was c...

▶ Play video

north stirrup May 20, 2020, 4:26 PM

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TIL free plugin need to pass a legal review

silent mesa May 20, 2020, 5:45 PM

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excited for the new set of sale and free items next month 🙂

ebon leaf May 20, 2020, 7:22 PM

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im trying to submit a asset but it keeps throwing me back to this part

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am i doing something wrong ?

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and can i put google drive as the project file link

odd socket May 20, 2020, 7:55 PM

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Gentelmens, i cant find any info on submission guidelines. Can i use Epic content examples demo room meshes in my asset?

delicate dove May 20, 2020, 7:57 PM

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@ebon leaf error is not clear, so no clue.
@odd socket yup you can use those as your own demo-scene.

ebon leaf May 20, 2020, 8:36 PM

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The proble is it gives no error it just sends me back to the technical information

ebon leaf May 20, 2020, 8:53 PM

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it all has the compeleted mark

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is there any1 who can help me fix the submit content

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since its not working

delicate dove May 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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there was a bug where you got kicked out after taking too long, not sure if related.
If you dont get a proper bug/error message your best bet is to email the team. (email is in the pinned message in this channel)

ebon leaf May 20, 2020, 9:12 PM

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i dont know for sure if its me or not since its the first time i submit content

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Xd

ebon leaf May 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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it worked !
it was the browser -_-

delicate dove May 20, 2020, 11:01 PM

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yay

lean venture May 21, 2020, 9:05 AM

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For anyone considering buying SteamCore from @indigo igloo , here's proof that it's pirating UWorks:

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Epic has investigated it and, as per their policy, allowed me to investigate it on my own, too, because I disagreed with their conclusion. I am currently compiling a PDF with more proof and sending to Epic. I'm also posting this here to bring to the attention of marketplace sellers and buyers alike, that piracy is still very real, even among the small marketplace community itself. So be vigilant! And before some SJW jumps in saying I shouldn't be posting code from marketplace products - UWorks is my product, SteamCore is a pirated version of it. I am basically posting my own code.

leaden briar May 21, 2020, 10:19 AM

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https://i.gyazo.com/f6122436c610bfd5840b41bf9a3ed80b.mp4

If I use this drop down will the file I got from the market place be removed from my project ?

If not, is there a way to do that ?

▶ Play video

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thank you for the info @fickle basin what would be considered cached content ? (so i can understand what would be removed)

real dust May 21, 2020, 10:24 AM

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Just the downloaded files that the launcher keeps

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Atm you're able to add it to another project instantly

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If you remove the cache it'll have to redownload it first

leaden briar May 21, 2020, 10:27 AM

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sounds very handy @real dust thank you for the knowledge!

leaden briar May 21, 2020, 10:46 AM

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I have never had this issue before but when I preview an asset, the lighting is so bad I can barely see what is in the scene...

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split iron May 21, 2020, 12:26 PM

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I made a tool for marketplace plugin creators that will execute RunUAT for each engine/plugin release, report any warnings/errors, and even zip your plugin for distribution (to Epic). It got tedious doing this for 3 engine versions each time I updated my plugin. I will hopefully release it tomorrow.

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delicate dove May 21, 2020, 12:27 PM

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plugin-creators will sing songs about your endeavors :p

split iron May 21, 2020, 12:27 PM

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All in a days work (literally), no need for songs though, its pretty underwhelming 😄

limber yacht May 21, 2020, 5:14 PM

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hey guys, if an asset is free for the month. Does the creator still get "support" from epic for putting it out for free? Or should i wait untill the month is over and buy if if i want to support the creator

delicate dove May 21, 2020, 5:23 PM

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they do get some support from epic yes.
As a creator it would be really appreciated of course if you are willing to wait, but as a buyer the free stuff is nice.

worn oyster May 21, 2020, 6:49 PM

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buy his next stuff 😛

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if its any good

split iron May 21, 2020, 8:15 PM

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I don't like free for month and don't feel any need to support devs applying for it. Look at als, he got paid upfront then dropped all support. It killed his asset.

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I don't apply for it and never will

delicate dove May 21, 2020, 8:16 PM

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yea dropping support is kinda lame

sturdy granite May 21, 2020, 8:16 PM

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@lean venture That isn't theft, it's two comments that match yours and the disable warnings I have had to write verbatim without even reading your code in other projects.

split iron May 21, 2020, 8:16 PM

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It affects me too since I made a better locomotion plugin and now competing against one that is free because he was paid out, it's an artificial economy

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I'm not upset, just to be clear, I'm using it as an example because many people could have made better products that compete against now free products

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And is no longer worth making those

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It's very harmful to the ecosystem

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Just IMO

honest bobcat May 21, 2020, 8:39 PM

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What's your locomotion plugin?

odd socket May 21, 2020, 10:49 PM

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Gentelmens. Is publishers allow to submit content with demo scenes/demo rooms with geometry set to "Stationary"? In case then submitted asset are not about static meshes and meshes at all (as example some particles, VFX, or something like that) doest it will be a problem in approving stages?

delicate dove May 21, 2020, 10:50 PM

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it shouldnt technically

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a lot of my submitted (vfx) packs have dynamic lighting and no lightmaps in demo-rooms to save on filesize.

odd socket May 21, 2020, 10:54 PM

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a lot of my submitted (vfx) packs have dynamic lighting and no lightmaps in demo-rooms to save on filesize.
@delicate dove Oh, thats a great news! Thanks, Luos!

hasty nexus May 22, 2020, 7:55 AM

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@split iron that's a nice tool. Would be very useful as a standalone application not as a plugin.

split iron May 22, 2020, 8:36 AM

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@hasty nexus It is a standalone application, not a plugin, haha

hasty nexus May 22, 2020, 1:12 PM

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that's awesome@split iron. and how are you gonna release it?

split iron May 22, 2020, 8:41 PM

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@hasty nexus MIT license, open source, via github

hasty nexus May 22, 2020, 8:41 PM

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nice. :D:D

split iron May 22, 2020, 8:43 PM

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I could probably release it now... as an alpha release. I haven't even seen an error yet to click 'view errors' (but its same code path as view warnings so hey probably works). I might wait until I've used it to do a few updates myself first

warm sage May 22, 2020, 8:49 PM

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Hello, I have a problem. I wanted to use quickel on UE4, but when I use the "livelink" plugin, I get this error when importing : "No smoothing group information was found in this FBX scene. Please make sure to enable the 'Export Smoothing Groups' option in the FBX Exporter plug-in before exporting the file. Even for tools that don't support smoothing groups, the FBX Exporter will generate appropriate smoothing data at export-time so that correct vertex normals can be inferred while importing." PLZZ HELP

mighty venture May 22, 2020, 10:24 PM

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Will there be a Memorial Day Marketplace sale?

modern perch May 23, 2020, 1:48 AM

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why would there be a memorial day sale?

oak fiber May 23, 2020, 2:39 PM

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cause ppl are cheap

split iron May 24, 2020, 10:41 AM

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Now released: https://forums.unrealengine.com/community/community-content-tools-and-tutorials/1766018-ue4-marketplace-plugin-assist

Unreal Engine Forums

About:

If you have a code plugin on the marketplace then you probably want this.

This is a C# Application that makes it easy to build, validate, and zip your plugins ready for distribution.

It executes RunUAT.bat to build and validate the plugin. It can do every engine vers...

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( ^ @hasty nexus )

merry field May 24, 2020, 2:24 PM

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Released Marketplace content should go in #released, not here

merry field May 24, 2020, 3:57 PM

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My line was in relation to another message which has since been deleted

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Not Vaei's

safe stump May 25, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Hey guys, what happens if I don't install the monthly free or permanently free marketplace content? Do I always have access to it? Does it remain on the Epic servers forever to download when I need it? Is this the same for the free weekly games?

north stirrup May 25, 2020, 3:43 AM

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yep, once it's added to your account it's yours forever

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 12:45 PM

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@lean venture LOL Uworks ! Hmm lets take a look at them sweet reviews for your product and see what the problem is. Well well , looks like we found the actual garbage this time and apparently its you and your App. So you claming someone copied your broken code and made it work correctly ? LOL 0-8 questions answered ,,, man thats bad service. Plus you having comments deleted ? no wonder you lose you crap when someone makes a review and dosent like the product. You need some anger management my good pal Vlad.

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UH O , HE SALTY NOW lol

lean venture May 25, 2020, 12:48 PM

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@unreal eagle This will come as a surprise to you since you advocated borderline communist ideologies right in this very channel recently, but.... The Epic team removes comments, not sellers. I see no review there that says anything about the quality of my product. I see childish replies that "I bought it when it was expensive years ago and now it's cheap".

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No, don't bother. You've managed to drag other people down to your level and bore them with your lack of logic here before. We're not having a discussion.

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 12:52 PM

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"Before you comment, consider whether your reply will help someone improve as an artist/developer - if not, quietly delete what you typed and start over. We’re here to help each other, so we can get help ourselves when we need it!

If you think someone is being offensive, let the moderators know."

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 12:54 PM

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O so you were mad that I felt free items needed a replcement for the people who bought the asset ? LOL come on now. If I was wrong , why did epic see my issue with it and then refunded me ... .. So um , yeah just because someone has an opioion thats not your own doesnt make it wrong vlad. Also the last time you were here you literally went out of your way to file a claim against my comment on someone elses product . You literally went out of your way to harrass me and to try to have my review removed . What these guys are saying about you on your own product is exactly what you tried to do with me. So I know its in your blood and I beleive them over you for that simple fact.

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 12:55 PM

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i think you can trash talk to each other through DMs

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 12:56 PM

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Naw , that all needed to be said. I rest my case.

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 12:58 PM

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Nice @split iron. I'm gonna grab it. It's really helpful and clever.

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 12:59 PM

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not to mention that the mp-team is generally very polite and courteous when it comes to refund requests, and probably has zero to do with why you requested the refund. therefore using it to proof a point is rather moot.

clever delta May 25, 2020, 12:59 PM

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🍿

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 1:01 PM

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Its not so much about the proof , its about them taking the time to consider a paying customers position in this. They decided in my favor with the same points I made here. Hopefully are little talk got them considering implementing one of the ideas we came up with here. I am still hanging on to my refund money until they hopefully do or until the free asset program ends. It tough out here now.

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 1:44 PM

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There is an asset on the marketplace which doesnt really describe whats included in the pack, buit i would require something which "maybe" is included in it (the only package which could have that). There seems to be no more support for it (for almost 2 years now) and zero out of X answered questions (not a single one answered) - i wonder if it is acceptable to buy the asset just to check the content for what i could need and refund it if that is not the case.
For clarification: neither the description or all other possible info channels do list what exactly is included and the versions are utterly confusing with "previews" of upcoming versions mixed into the screenshots. That and no reaction via Email from the creator.

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guidelines should state that all included assets have to be documented ... alex

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 1:46 PM

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why would you buy a dead asset just to check if it has a feature if it doesn't specify it has it.

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Risky buy man ! I would say looks like a awful seller. They set bad exapmles with poor customer service. You do have 14 days to get a refund though if the product isnt working correctly

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:47 PM

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I would bring that situation up with the mp-team.
I also wish it was clearer for purchasers when a package has been neglected by a creator.
like a big font going "Package has not been updated for X months/years"

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 1:48 PM

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do you happen to know if an engine-version update requires interaction of the creator?

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because it offers a 4.24 version

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 1:48 PM

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no @delicate dove. that's a bad thing. some assets simply don't require constant updates. They just need to be up-to-date with engine versions and that's already shown in the product description.

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:48 PM

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depends on the kind of package. art/audio assets should work, blueprints could work, and anything else... at your own risk

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 1:49 PM

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Otherwise just because an asset has reached the maturity and doesn't need an update for long, would make it look like a neglected asset

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:49 PM

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@hasty nexus obviously I meant that when a package has not been updated for newer versions

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 1:49 PM

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oh yeah, that's different

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:50 PM

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(well for me it was obvious :p)

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 1:50 PM

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the thing is, they announced a big update about a year ago but nothing followed that annoucement

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 1:50 PM

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it still shows in the product's description the version

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 1:50 PM

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there even is a screenshot of "version 2" in the thumbnails of this asset

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"coming soon"

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tho they dont seem to be active since 2 years

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:50 PM

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yea, but its not in-your-face enough from a ui/ux pov that people really notice it

merry field May 25, 2020, 1:51 PM

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This

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 1:51 PM

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ok, thats a good hint then

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so maybe they are alive

merry field May 25, 2020, 1:51 PM

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Your versions don't get updated automatically, you need to at minimum manually tick the box

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:51 PM

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also wish there was a "tick all these packs to be new-version-ready" instead of doing all packs manually :p

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 1:52 PM

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i dont really care about that they dont seem to reply to questions or emails, als long as the thing i need is included - the "version 2 screenshot" from their thumbnails implies even more that what i would need was included, or will be included (tho never really specific)

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so i guess i gotta wait a bit

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thanks 👌

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:53 PM

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worst-best case, email the mp team about the scenario, and ask them if its allright for you to try the pack,and ask a refund if its not what you need.

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 1:53 PM

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plugins are much more complicated to update, you need to change .uplugin file, make it a zip, upload it and then submit it as an update or new engine version supported

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it's a pain

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 1:53 PM

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i would have done that @delicate dove, but if the engine-version of 4.24 implies activity, then i can also wait a bit longer

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the mp team surely has more than enough work as is

merry field May 25, 2020, 1:54 PM

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The reason why I'd stick to only making Blueprint things on the Marketplace, don't want to deal with that resubmission

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:54 PM

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ehhhyuuuup

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 1:54 PM

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except if you did something spline based

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rip 4.23 and 4.24

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:54 PM

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the only support-request emails I get atm is "when you convert this to niagara?"

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 1:54 PM

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hah

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btw i remember you

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 1:54 PM

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haha, so? when?

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:D:D:D

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 1:54 PM

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didnt you release free rocks like an eon ago

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:55 PM

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yup

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 1:55 PM

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nice, i think i still got them in my project library

merry field May 25, 2020, 1:55 PM

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What's that about splines in 4.23?

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:55 PM

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@hasty nexus doubt I'll move any existing pack (minus perhaps the latest) to niagara, not worth the money/time I need to spend

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unless the cascadeniagara converter becomes available

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 1:56 PM

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then resubmit them as niagara

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you have to redo everything, don't you?

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:57 PM

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yup, besides materials/textures.
but it will take years of learning niagara first :p

merry field May 25, 2020, 1:57 PM

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Is it as "simple" (but time-consuming) as copying the settings roughly 1:1, or does Niagara do everything differently as well?

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 1:58 PM

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Niagara is node based isn't it?

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:58 PM

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everything is different, though often more streamlined.
can now batch-edit lod settings for all emitters instead of 1 by 1, same for importance, and such

merry field May 25, 2020, 1:59 PM

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Oh. Guess I know nothing about Niagara, must look into it, though that's going rather off-topic

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 1:59 PM

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yups :p

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

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a blueprint based asset pack with a couple of meshes

merry field May 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Latest version is 4.25 so they presumably haven't been around to update it for a while

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

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but you know, if you buy the asset assuming it contains something when it doesn't specify it, then why asking for a refund?

merry field May 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

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Guess waiting to see if they come back and update it to 4.25 would be a good idea

hasty nexus May 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

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i wouldn't approve it

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 2:00 PM

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LOL he looking at the same one i was considering . Decided to wait on that one man until the dev shows up. Also they are pretty easy to make yourself just so you know .

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 2:01 PM

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yeah but then again, im terrible at making that myself

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the logic is no problem, but the meshwork must be on point

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 2:02 PM

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There is a free version of what you looking at on gum road

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no actually it is on the UE4 website

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 2:05 PM

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the one from the forums yeah, i know - but its just not as dynamic as i would need it to be 😛

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i tried to add some parts to it, but i misjudged the work it takes

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i think its not a secret anyway, we talk roads yeah?

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 2:08 PM

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hmm , sounds like you need to take the chance then if its your only option. Let me know if it works out ! I have been debating that one for weeks. Its the best one i have seen but people complain the they dont work as intended in newer versions. Thats what is holding me back , well that and I am scared it might end up free soon.

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yup roads

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wewere in the twitch channel; at the same time

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 2:08 PM

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from what i can tell the spline problems have been solved with 4.25 so it should work

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 2:08 PM

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LOL

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 2:08 PM

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but the intersection stuff is just horrible to solve

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and also sideways to that

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offsets for that

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and so on

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for example, i would want an intersection with a one-way to the right

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all i saw from the pack is a 4-sided intersection

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from the 3 videos which exists lol

merry field May 25, 2020, 2:09 PM

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I don't know about the specific assetes you're talking about, but intersections are always going to be a pain to handle

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 2:10 PM

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yeah i thought im smart and just change the road material on one spline mesh and add a socket to that

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Yeah the video leaves a lot of unanswered questions but he did show that you could indeed do a one way

merry field May 25, 2020, 2:10 PM

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The engine doesn't support the concept of branching splines, so you're going to have to attach splines to each other at different points

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 2:10 PM

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well .. the corner is peak sharp, even tho its rounded, so i would need a bigger spline mesh just to enable a one-way off-side

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oh thats no biggy, i can deal with sockets on meshes

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i can also write my own auto connector, but how would i get a proper rotation etc. from the middle of a mesh based on a random socket 😄

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exactly, i dont, at least not with quick maths

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 2:11 PM

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Come on man , Buy it for the booth of us ! LOL hit me on discord if you do man , I have so many questions.

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 2:11 PM

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you know that 40 minutes video

merry field May 25, 2020, 2:11 PM

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It's even worse than that, the middle of a deformed mesh

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 2:11 PM

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in the very background there is a platform with all assets presented

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but its about 50 pixels in total

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and he never goes there

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or actually does he? he tries to fiddle with a playerspawn i think .. i need to revisit that video

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ok lol the plot thickens

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there are literally 15 frames in that video on which i can see all assets, and one of them "might" be that single intersection onto a 1-lane i want 😄

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lol

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literally 15 frames of the video

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 2:16 PM

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So you going to get it ?

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 2:18 PM

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i mean, if you check the lane width of the ones in the background, then these marked ones are a bit too small even for single lanes 🤔

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screw it, ill take a chance

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or at least i would, if the login button would work

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merry field May 25, 2020, 2:29 PM

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Epic are the only place I've seen where you click on a link to a page, it redirects you to LOGGING OUT, then takes you somewhere completely different from the link you clicked on

unreal eagle May 25, 2020, 2:29 PM

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LOL Nameless so true. If you click it again it logs you back in and takes you to the right place

mortal sluice May 25, 2020, 2:30 PM

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even better for me, i always need to log in again - and always get the "save device" message, which never worked once for me

merry field May 25, 2020, 2:30 PM

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I've never come across another online service that logs me out so much

silent mesa May 25, 2020, 3:43 PM

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Hi what are the pros and cons regarding buying of assets between unreal engine marketplace and artstation. Currently, the asset is cheaper in artstation than in unreal engine. Thank you

merry field May 25, 2020, 3:48 PM

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Is it the same asset?

oblique seal May 25, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Finally, I finally have a reason to buy this

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merry field May 25, 2020, 3:49 PM

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Assets bought on the Unreal Engine marketplace will be better integrated (you can deploy them to your project from inside the launcher, and it will inform you if there are updates), but really all that's doing is downloading, unzipping, and copying for you

silent mesa May 25, 2020, 3:54 PM

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yes it is the same asset. But around 10 dollars cheaper in artstation.
yes, I consider that it is better integrated and you can just delete it to save space and add it to your projects. I am still asking the seller if the artstation version will have updates if he will update UE4 in the future.
The artstation downloads for a purchased item is unlimited right?
thank you.

eager kestrel May 25, 2020, 4:26 PM

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Any suggestions on great marketplace products that will work well for any genre of game? Looking for modular and/or procedural type products. Tons of sales going on and I am sure I overlooked a few must-have items.

merry field May 25, 2020, 4:30 PM

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Are you talking about something like Prefabricator? (That's free)

eager kestrel May 25, 2020, 4:31 PM

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And that is one I missed, haha. Thank you.

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I basically mean any product that is versatile enough to help with any project. I picked up dungeon architect and a character customizer. Things like that.

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Oh nvm, had prefabricator, but the website logged me out, haha.

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Eyeballing a music pack now, hehe.

dire hawk May 25, 2020, 7:02 PM

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@eager kestrel that's a really good question. I took the opportunity to look through the whole list of assets on sale that support Android since my project is targeting mobile

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Just grabbed stuff like UI sound packs, and an impact sound pack that I'm hoping includes the few sfx I'm looking for

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I also got Level Design Assistant, TweenMaker, and Global Event Handler

rapid ocean May 25, 2020, 7:48 PM

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can you look up the price history of marketplace items somehow?

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 7:52 PM

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not afaik

sinful rover May 25, 2020, 8:11 PM

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all these creators bumping their prices by 50% before the sale and only to discount it by that much...
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Walk of shame

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dire hawk May 25, 2020, 8:12 PM

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I've been offsetting that sort of nonsense by only buying things that are decently priced

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like, when you see a $5 sfx pack with 3 minutes of audio vs a $2 pack with many times that... it's easy to make the right decision there, especially when the cheaper one sounds better

eager kestrel May 25, 2020, 8:33 PM

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@rapid ocean I keep track of specific products in a spreadsheet. I did, however, buy some unknowns today, but they seemed reasonably priced for what they claimed to offer.

ebon leaf May 25, 2020, 8:35 PM

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I found this beauty in the comments of a product:

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eager kestrel May 25, 2020, 8:37 PM

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Still saves a whopping 1.35% 😆

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 8:37 PM

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lol

modern perch May 25, 2020, 8:39 PM

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pretty sure this behaviour is actually illegal in a number of countries

north stirrup May 25, 2020, 8:40 PM

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Yup

sinful rover May 25, 2020, 8:41 PM

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yeah epic should lock down the prices for x amount of days

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and if you enter the promo at a certain price dont allow people to change it after

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something like that

delicate dove May 25, 2020, 8:41 PM

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@onyx flower might wanna take a look at that

graceful arrow May 25, 2020, 8:43 PM

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anymore hammers?

modern perch May 25, 2020, 8:51 PM

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in the UK Advertising Standard Authority guidance says "Advertisers must ensure that any reference prices, such as ‘was’ prices used to advertise the savings a consumer can make represent a genuine established usual selling price and will not mislead. Recency, pricing history, sales data, sales and distribution channels will all affect whether a higher price is sufficiently established as a usual selling price."

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failure to do so could allow consumers to take the advertiser, in this case Epic, to court

sinful rover May 25, 2020, 9:03 PM

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Only 1 day left!

split iron May 25, 2020, 9:30 PM

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@modern perch in NZ you can't put a product on sale within a certain timeframe after changing the price, think it's like 1 month. If you see it and email the commerce commission the seller can get a hefty fine

modern perch May 25, 2020, 9:31 PM

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yeah, I expect it's the case in more locations than not. In the UK you can kinda get away with it, but it's a very recent thing and it's still totally grey

split iron May 25, 2020, 9:40 PM

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Since Epic charges NZ GST they could likely be liable here too but I'm definitely not a lawyer lol

dire hawk May 25, 2020, 9:41 PM

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It almost seems like Epic is aware of that, though

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If Marketplace sellers get invited to participate in sales more than a month in advance, that's plenty of time to change their prices and stay legal

split iron May 25, 2020, 9:42 PM

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In NZ it is extremely obvious if someone does it since online stores are price tracked and the information is publicly and easily accessible

sinful rover May 25, 2020, 9:42 PM

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lock in the price for a duration after you signed up the sale, and dont allow people to participate that recently changed it