for now I'm selling on CGTrader and Sketchfab, 0 problems, in fact they encourage you to include as much options as possible, but the "war" between Unity and Unreal seems to provoke this ridiculous situations
#fab
barren tinsel
merry field
Well, with the way UE4 works I can see the point, it will by default package all that stuff into the project you add it to
If only the launcher supported "extra materials" somehow
barren tinsel
you can easily drag and drop just the FBX file with the corresponding files inside "UE4 PBR Textures"
no big deal
barren tinsel
they are there too, "PBR Standard textures"
merry field
Yeah I know you can, but they still get dumped into the content folder when you install it into a project
modern perch
if it's not a uasset, it shouldn't be packaged
barren tinsel
yea I have discarded including Unreal project to make my products as global as possible
merry field
It's in the guidelines IIRC
Must have a project and preferably a demo
As for packaging, I didn't mean that it would get packed into a game someone bakes
I just meant it'd get pulled down and installed into the project's Content folder
And pulled into their source control if they're not careful
barren tinsel
I think I'll pass for now ๐
merry field
"You must include a .uproject file and Config directory, even for content-only submissions."
barren tinsel
"Also don't forget to avoid mentioning the dark lord's name in any document you include"
merry field
Basically anything you submit to the marketplace most work in ue4, either as a standalone project or as content, out of the box
The unity thing sounds bizarre
You might want to double-check with Amanda Bott or Tim Slager
barren tinsel
my content works out of the box, you just have to drag and drop, same for Unity and same for standard PBR texturing
merry field
"Drag and drop"?
barren tinsel
yes, you have an Unreal project open, you drag the FBX file and drop it, same with textures
connecting the nodes to the material is just 4 clicks
merry field
Unreal Marketplace content is installed through the launcher
merry field
And is for Unreal-engine compatible content (e.g. .uassets)
You can include fbx and textures and whatever else as optional, bonus content
But it's the Unreal-compatible uassets that are your main product
(Also note that the editor can export most asset types back out to model/texture/whatever files)
barren tinsel
it seems that my only option is to make every product with an exclusive version just for the Unreal Marketplace
@modern perch and @merry field thank you so much for all the info
@delicate dove thanks for the screenshot
proud skiff
can confirm that if you don't send them a .uproject you will get this back https://gyazo.com/4e307f3ba87cc638abcce6b643cbf879 @barren tinsel
merry field
In my case they also set the whole project to "rejected" and I had to recreate it (rather than requires changes)
proud skiff
Exactly the same, It blanked it out so I couldn't edit it and had to do the whole submission again not just change the file link and resubmit...
I'm glad it only took them 1 day to reject it tho.... I'm now waiting like 14 days after resubmitting, hoping that I don't get it straight rejected again...
merry field
That kind of confusion is why I wrote the guide
Marketplace guidelines are... not very clear
zealous ibex
Iโve had it happen to me before, and some โresearchโ using the google sheets pinned here showed it happened for other assets as well...no clue what the official policy is though
delicate dove
hmm, that should not be allowed.
@waxen ibex you might want to contact epic marketplace about this ^
waxen ibex
modern perch
I dunno, there's also two others called 'Automatic Landscape Material', two more called 'Auto Generator Material Landscape' one called 'Landscape Auto-Generated Material' and one called 'Auto Landscape Material'
I suspect if you use a fairly generic names, there's only so much you can do to avoid naming collisions
wooden falcon
that and you can change your pack name at will, no?
modern perch
dunno if it's so easy, but I think you can change it, yeah
onyx flower
@delicate dove @waxen ibex You can also @ or PM us here regarding such things, I'm forwarding it to the marketplace team
delicate dove
@onyx flower sometimes I do, sometimes I dont want to bother you gents :p
onyx flower
<3
daring raven
eurgh, just had a marketplace pack dump itself all over /Content/ , I thought they would be rejected for that directory structure?
gaunt flicker
Identical names are not allowed but are not enforced unless someone mentions it
so if both parties are cool, meh
modern perch
@daring raven - it's not supposed to do that, no, it's supposed to be self contained -_-
delicate dove
Very old packages did this though.
back when the cavepack was pushed that rule wasnt a thing, so the maps from the cave-pack went straight into /content
merry field
Ugh, messy
delicate dove
yuuup
daring raven
Ah it looks like it's pretty old, must be the case
merry field
@wooden falcon I see someone else made a bone pack https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/slug/skulls-and-bones-01
Some really odd things about those skulls, like how the eye sockets are solid
merry field
Someone in the comment pointed out how the teeth being the same colour as the rest of the skull looks really weird
wooden falcon
skull is from another one of his older packs: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/slug/solomon-temple
I believe there are quite a few bone packs now a days on the mp, actually
merry field
There's one with Alien skulls
Seems like a potential legal problem waiting to happen if you use those
timber dragon
How long is it supposed to take assets to be updated to 4.22 if the file is already submitted to Epic?
delicate dove
generally quite fast, but they have been a bit understaffed because flu
pine rover
how do i get a refund on the epic store?
pliant forum
Wrong discord dude
merry field
Marketplace staff finally got back and started reviewing my last submission. Took 25 days this time. \o/
prisma gate
Hi, so anyone can recommend anything for terrain material ?
unborn basalt
My package Ice Cool is finally available on the marketplace ๐ https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/slug/ice-cool
vapid tundra
dope! i really dig your Volumetric Glass and Aquatic Surface ones as well @unborn basalt
rustic belfry
Great looking ice @unborn basalt!
thin turtle
What is the best asset on marketplace?
vapid tundra
the one that fits your needs the best i guess
north stirrup
Mine
flat radish
What do you guys think about the brushify forest pack?
merry field
Clearly the best asset on the marketplace is the super chick
elfin plinth
cough fat unicorn cough
modern perch
Little Yellow Duck
spice socket
Have you guys got paid for last month?
delicate dove
yup
spice socket
Everyne get's money at the same time? Because I still haven't got paid. It was more than 100$ ...
modern perch
they send the money at more or less the same time
doesn't mean it will necessarily show up in your account at the same time
delicate dove
@spice socket first month you are selling?
if so, you missed the part where the first time itll take 45 days (often to the 12-15th of the next month)
spice socket
Not the first one
And the problem is my situation is hard and I really need this money. Still waiting for reply for my e-mail and yeah ...
delicate dove
sucks, but if you really weally need money there are always things you can do today. work at a farmer for a day, clean peoples houses, clean cars, or apply your computer skills and help people with pc's filled with virusses, or have hardware issues.
and yea, def fire off an email to the mp team
north stirrup
Or sell on gumroad ๐ฌ
merry field
Apparently you're not allowed to say "Copyright (C) 2019" in your readme
Which is not mentioned anywhere in the guidelines
Though if you have a code project, you apparently have to put a copyright in each source file
I have no idea, the better question is why they accepted my previous product which always had it in the readme
And still does
I mean, I don't specify any licence or anything, and under most laws anything someone makes it automatically their copyright anyway
They do say that you can't put an additional licence on the content (it must be sold under their licence)
but the copyright notice? That's just weird
sinful kelp
week 3 and a half of waiting for approval. RIP me
pliant forum
Is it only me or wasn't the Jetpack Animation Set on this months free rotation? Looks like it's been replaced by Death Animations?
modern perch
I thought it was
can confirm it has changed
jetpack animation still appears in the vault tho
pliant forum
That's so weird.. Maybe jetpack stuff contains copy righted anims or something?
modern perch
it has disappeared
this is one of the things that the marketplace does that means that I really won't use it
if it did have copyrighted material in it, they just silently pull it
no notification, no refund etc
pliant forum
Yeah, my point exactly
modern perch
if I had that in my game, I could now be liable and have no idea
pliant forum
Not going to use copy righted stuff. Feels like we should be notified due to liability reasons
Would be very bothersome if we devs had to make regular checks on assets to see if it's legally usable or not...
modern perch
well, we don't even know why it was removed
pliant forum
Very true. It did had support for latest engine versions and all that in the clear tho. Maybe a representative could clear this out
delicate dove
Twitter
its still very weird and somewhat negligent that they don't put out a warning or a statement about this kind of stuff.
In the case that something was unofficially obtained and sold, and not telling people who purchased such a pack is imho negligence.
though a lawyer might disagree hehe
topaz pivot
whats the story with this package @delicate dove ?
delicate dove
nobody knows, thats why
topaz pivot
๐
lunar gulch
More than 3 weeks have passed and none of my products have been approved or checked.
They really need to do something about it
merry field
So there's now a new pack we can all get for free but no one told us?
paper wadi
Looks like it's been removed from the Marketplace, I completely agree that Epic must inform people when they remove things and tell them why.
No great loss in this case though ๐
lilac heath
@sinful kelp the wait time is estimated at 20 working days so that's 4 weeks @lunar gulch
sinful kelp
Yeah i know but my previous assets got done rather fast at a week or less
lilac heath
They always advise 20 working days on the submission email
sinful kelp
oof i sent it in on april 29th
lilac heath
Yhe your only about 15 working days. So it's gonna happen soon :)
lilac heath
Is this not the jetpack pack . Looks like the submission date is way on the future @delicate dove
modern perch
that's the one
lilac heath
I can down load it fine
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/slug/jetpack-animation-set-ultimate?sessionInvalidated=true
modern perch
as I mentioned, it's still in my vault
it does not appear if you look for it in the marketplace though
lilac heath
Think it's due to the submission date being in the future
lilac heath
It's done on a tag. Some one added them self when I was on the free month , the MP team pulled them the next day
So if the Dev has removed the tag they will not show on the freepage
merry field
@lilac heath Can you provide a source for that? Sounds incorrect to me
The only one you should not be allowed to use is the registered-trademark symbol
Since that of course implies it's registered
Everything is automatically copyrighted as soon as you create it
Not according to the Berne Convention
paper wadi
Sign out and do a search for it ... no longer there, if you have it in your vault you can still access it.
lilac heath
Yhe my bad I tripped up it was patent I was thinking off. I stand corrected.
merry field
Ah, yes, you have to register those
lilac heath
I have retracted my incorrectly written comment.
( Thank you for pointing out my mistake)
merry field
We all mix things up in our heads, no problem
At least now we both know more about copyright law
lilac heath
On holiday and things a wee bitty fuzzy ;)
merry field
It clearly got pulled for some reason
But I wonder why
Guess we'd have to ask one of the Epic staff
Oh, nice, they added a new "Hidden" state to new products, so you can test downloading it yourself before you make it public
lilac heath
@merry field that's a sweet feature . Thanks for the heads up
merry field
Well, it wasn't there 9 months ago ๐
Whoo published my second product on the Marketplace \o/
merry field
"A configurable system for generating random numbers and outcomes, with options to adjust the results to minimize unlikely outcomes and provide more evenly distributed results."
I know, it took so long to get approved I'd almost forgotten about it too
simple estuary
marketplace team sent out an email containing more information. seems like it may have contained content that cannot be confirmed to be original work of the author... that's why they added the death animations mocap pack as replacement
simple estuary
my best guess is that it is only during the "investigation" - if there is one.
modern perch
"It has come to our attention that the Jetpack Animation Set, included as part of Mayโs featured free Marketplace content, contains content that we cannot confirm fully uses original work and therefore may not comply with the Unreal Engine Marketplace Distribution agreement. As a result, it may not be suitable for use in published works.
Accordingly, this product has been removed from the Unreal Engine Marketplace. The Jetpack Animation Set will remain in your library and you may continue to use it at your own risk."
This is a first - and it's an improvement we've been wanting for a long time ๐
e-mail notification went out, presumably to everyone who had it in their vault
simple estuary
yeah, and it was even soon after they took it offline
hard mortar
well it's kind of crappy of them to say well, you can use it at your own risk
risk from whom though
that would be better
to say who's work it might be a copy of
delicate dove
oh man, JohnGalt might need to be paying back those 7.5k he got for the free month
hard mortar
probably not unless epic has proof the animations are not licensed to him to sell
in which case they would also tell us not to use the animations at all
instead of use at your own risk
someone probably complained to epic
delicate dove
they always state use at your own risk with pirated content
they need to protect themselves more than us legally
hard mortar
it says it animations may not comply, instead of they do not comply
delicate dove
that text is filled with quite well written legalese, and not a general marketplace team writing
again, legalese
hard mortar
well thats pretty crappy wording tbh
delicate dove
in your opinion, but its well written in case of court
hard mortar
i mean its crappy writing for end user
delicate dove
not their main concern
hard mortar
ok
grizzled thunder
Ouchie
grizzled thunder
So they weren't their animations to sell?
grizzled thunder
Strange thing to do
hard mortar
people do stranges things
grizzled thunder
Indeed
hard mortar
there's the Epic Shooter game Demo charactesr on Unity store
the guy uploaded them and says he made them
i reported it over a month ago
its still there
delicate dove
lol
grizzled thunder
๐ค
hard mortar
grizzled thunder
Not sure why I'm surprised really
hard mortar
i at least got a review posted and warned people not to use the characters in a commercial game
grizzled thunder
It's probably the reason why a lot of big studios stear clear of marketplaces to be honest
Not worth the risk
Shame
timber dragon
I honestly prefer the death animations
modern perch
aha, the jetpack anims are from Tribes Ascend
hard mortar
lol
delicate dove
lol
modern perch
I played a lot of that game, hahaha
delicate dove
makes you somewhat worried about what you can and cannot use from the mp in the long run
modern perch
aye
grizzled thunder
Yup
delicate dove
imagine your entire indiegame being build around a pack that gets pulled
grizzled thunder
Exactly
hard mortar
wasnt there that one game who's dev used weapons that were copies from battlefield or some other game
grizzled thunder
Like I said, it's no wonder bigger studios don't take the risk, they need the paper trail
Anyways, drama of the week over, night all ๐
timber dragon
Night
modern perch
@hard mortar - yeah, but that same dev had been in trouble for all kinds of stuff before
looks like the guy was booted from the Tribes reddit at some point
cached posts are on google tho
delicate dove
its like the mordor game animation thing at some point. the assissins creed animator recognized his own animations.
rumours are they did use them for the testing phase.
modern perch
placeholder assets get used all the time - but when they make it into games, well....
better to be safe and not use things you know could be a problem, heh
delicate dove
it does happen occasionally. heard it more than once in the didyouknowgaming series
some even had whole roms of games on their cd just to bloat it.
modern perch
hahahaha
delicate dove
cant remember which one
lone mountain
@delicate dove
Is that public info? lol
all his videos are offline on YT as well..
damn, did he really just get caught
daring raven
animations that are painstakingly similar to T:A or straight up ripped? ๐ค
timber dragon
RIP to his email too.
lone mountain
@daring raven but I want to see a side-by-side then
otherwise, it's just "he-said she-said"
north stirrup
rofl
gaunt flicker
but what is it
lone mountain
no clue
gaunt flicker
if yall already know
north stirrup
No it's official not url bait
gaunt flicker
did epic just go
lone mountain
new marketplace?
north stirrup
tbh that'd be nice
delicate dove
@lone mountain the 7.5k? yes thats public
what you get for a lifetime free isnt
(afaik)
shadow inlet
Marketo is not a MP tool - sorry folks.
north stirrup
@delicate dove Are you sure?
onyx flower
delicate dove
@shadow inlet you might want to see @hard mortar's post
"https://assetstore.unity.com/packages/3d/characters/humanoids/scifi-robots-113422"
shadow inlet
Victor's looking into the robots - thanks though!
delicate dove
@north stirrup yea, its actually on the page about submitting your mp content for the free month stuff
gaunt flicker
marketo is all the features marketplace sellers want lmao
north stirrup
So marketplace seller only info right? ๐
shadow inlet
Thought we only listed it in the Hub. ๐ค
delicate dove
nah it was def on the main public page
modern perch
@daring raven - they look very familiar to me, though I couldn't confirm they actually are the same. The fact he was ripping TA assets and importing them into UE4 on the Tribes reddit though, kinda implies they're probably the originals, especially given the volume and specificness of the content
delicate dove
waybackmachine hasnt stored the previous iteration of that page, before you picked for multiple months at a time.
modern perch
but it's still conjecture
daring raven
fair enough, I know a lot of people have weird ideas about copyright even if they're not exact rips
"if I just add a random tweak to each bone"
"limewire told me it's not responsible for illegal downloads, but I X'd the window so I can do whatever I want"
daring raven
.<
delicate dove
literally read that once on one of the ue4 fb groups
might even be on ignantgamedev
daring raven
anything related to fangames is stepping onto a minefield of entitlement and nostalgia blurring the facts
merry field
Would Epic have grounds to sue the person who put up those stolen assets?
The makers of Tribes presumably could, but probably can't be bothered
I'd imagine Epic might want to because such things harm their reputation
crimson wave
Nah, that guy probably doesn't have much money. Tribes people could claim damages from Epic for distributing their animations though, since, you know, everyone seems to be suing Epic these days.
Probably none of that's going to happen though ๐
merry field
Now that is very strange - they modified all the British English in my product description into US English
ashen sun
oh man that jetpack animset was using stolen assets?
I kinda feel that really echos the current state of the market place
tropic kraken
Anyone knows of any asset on marketplace that has a woodchip floor like this one, or something similar?
rotund schooner
oh damn the jetpack pack thing what was on montly free thing
young nimbus
some POS of a human being that person who sold them ๐
ivory trellis
I'm doubly glad that I didn't buy that jetpack content pack before it went free now! Two bullets dodged there
rich canyon
lol
daring raven
though.. if you had, would you get a refund?
modern perch
that hasn't been the case in the past
ivory trellis
Given how cheap it was, I'd probably just have taken it as a learning experience.
I tend to trust some animation sellers more than others, because there are people out there that are clearly doing things professionally. (Kubold for example)
paper wadi
Thank you Epic for sending an email about that jetpack asset ๐
elfin plinth
still waiting for the email about the free sound pack from Epic ๐
but it's good to see that they NOW send emails in these situations
@daring raven in past, you didn't get automatic refund, you had to request it
there's a difference on being able to get one and getting one automatically
rotund schooner
well it was a little bummer as jetpack was one of thing of interest but yeah sadly that was the case
lone mountain
Hm
First time for everything
First time I've ever seen a Marketplace Asset in a YouTube ad
(as in, they paid for ads)
delicate dove
O_o
lone mountain
I mean, technically, it links to his gumroad
I wonder what the conversion rate on that is
north stirrup
Heh
grizzled thunder
Clicking the flash sale link from the Unreal email gives me this
Although I didnt enter it with my stuff
seems like I only get 4 results
delicate dove
lol
delicate dove
i havent gotten that one yet
grizzled thunder
what do you get when you click taht link?
grizzled thunder
middle of the night for those guys
topaz pivot
wah, I'd make a spacesim in VR with that
grizzled thunder
I guess
delicate dove
yup
delicate dove
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/slug/fantasy-interface-sounds
O_o those sounds sound extremely like skyrim stuff
modern perch
successfully claimed those four random packs, oh dear
north stirrup
Welp
grizzled thunder
I think they are free forever packs
modern perch
actual sale link works:
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/on-sale
delicate dove
thats the regular sale, not the flash sale
flash sale this time has a specific mandatory % off on all packs. so its all the same
delicate dove
kinda odd hehe
proud skiff
So I had my submission back from marketplace that is now marked as needing changes, I have made the changes and tried to resubmit and got this message https://gyazo.com/68cc3a16039b73f3d75fb340d007c1e6. I only have the one submission anybody know whats up
kinda frustrating.... Stuck in a loop, Resubmit... No you cant...
You need an approved product to resubmit.. How can I get an approved product if I cant resubmit ๐
delicate dove
in that case you need to fire off an email explaining the issue. or makea forum thread.
looking at how many people are complaining about submission time, approval time, and weird bugs (and pirated free packs), it almost feels like a cry for help.
proud skiff
Last email I sent to market team didn't get a response, still not a response when they reviewed product. I am crying and I do need help. Where should I email ?
proud skiff
ok thanks ill give it a try
proud skiff
ok I figured out how to get it submitted.... for anybody else who has the same issue. If I open up the product then try to submit from the link at bottom inside the product page it doesn't let me but...
if you select the checkbox of the product here ( its gone now because its submitted) then hit submit at the top it works...
crisp sphinx
I rather talk about that slash sale link is invalid and there is no sale ๐ i get an email
it begun or not;p?
grizzled thunder
Looks like the link is broken @idle arch @shadow inlet
shadow inlet
@grizzled thunder Hey thanks for letting us know. The email wasnโt supposed to go live for another few hours, so the sale page isnโt live yet!
When did you receive it?
shadow inlet
Got it - thanks all! Appreciate your patience until the sale actually starts ๐
echo crest
modern perch
nope
daring raven
my cart is ready ๐คฃ
grizzled thunder
The interior toolkit that was free a while back is cool. I probably wouldnt have included photos and branding though on the books. Isn't that a copyright issue?
Most of them have photos etc on them that look like commercial imagery
delicate dove
yea thats not allowed x 9000
modern perch
aye, that shouldn't be on the marketplace
delicate dove
guess mandatory CC: @onyx flower
onyx flower
@delicate dove Mandatory thanks for reporting
onyx flower
There are a few on the marketplace, I don't remember which one went free, could you get me a link?
@grizzled thunder
onyx flower
@grizzled thunder @delicate dove Thanks all, we're on it
lone mountain
meh 50%
I suppose it's good for those holdouts that have never done 50%, or super recent assets
BTW, whoever got emails, you're lucky ๐
I had to hear about through another MP Asset's Discord
north stirrup
rly
lone mountain
Aye, I just triple checked. No emails from Epic/Unreal Engine, so good luck on sales if people don't even know about it
Of course.. for some reason... this server doesn't promote sales?
Nope they do
I'm surprised @delicate dove didn't post in #unreal-news
delicate dove
<_< been afk entire day, and just got back from chores
also, still no email about it
lone mountain
Ah, okay, so a lot of folks missing out
onyx flower
The emails are rolling out. Those that weren't in the initial batch should start seeing them now.
sinful kelp
Oof it happened to me. Some guy is posting asset packs with literally the same models as my original strewn together with his own
Anything i can do?
bronze pilot
wtf
serene karma
..
nova cave
@onyx flower They messed up those e-mails. I got one yesterday, clicked on it and the sale wasn't on. Sometime during the night they finally started the sale, but the e-mail specifically said "starting now".
delicate dove
https://twitter.com/Luos_83/status/1132243648761028608
i havent been very vocal about mp-mishaps as of late, but these last few weeks deserved a tweet.
vapid tundra
clearly there's no QA whatsoever
delicate dove
I rather blame it on not enough resources to maintain a proper productive team.
but, speculation
proud skiff
I submitted a footprint system in add on format but with no .uproject file. They asked for project file I assume to test it which is fair enough so I made a project with system installed on a spider for them to test.... The add on folder itself was still directly under contents ready to go into another project and be setup on another character. They failed and said everything has to be inside a folder under contents, Which everything in the addon pack was already. So I now moved everything demo level + addon folder included to be nested inside that one folder to keep them happy and resubmitted. They failed because the spider could not turn and only moved forward backwards and left and right, the spider was only sent for them to test because they asked for a project file and is not even in the add on folder... I need to fully animate it for them to see the footprints ?
modern perch
you should be giving them the entire project, as the end user would recieve it
and that would include a project file
proud skiff
It was submitted in add on format, so you would just click "add to project" and it would put the addon pack in your project
modern perch
it still needs a project file
proud skiff
They have the project file with the spider running the system
but thats not intended to go to end user. If I wanted the end user to get a project file then I would select project not add on
modern perch
if it's not intended to be given to the end user it should not be included in the submission
proud skiff
You cant submit an addon without a .uproject tho
modern perch
because it should have a project file
proud skiff
ok but an addon goes directly into another project using the add to project button. So why would it need its own project file be submitted other than for it to be tested by epic?
modern perch
because project files contain information like dependencies, target platforms etc
also version numbers
proud skiff
that does make sense I guess but It is a very confusing submission system they have. It is not clear what exactly they want and why....
ebon leaf
- Waiting times for submission have gone trough the roof.
Approximately how long it is now? I submitted a code plugin yesterday, when you think I can expect the review?
modern perch
I think a lot of people have now been waiting a month for non-code reviews
ebon leaf
oh wow. and for code plugins?
modern perch
code usually takes longer
ebon leaf
shit. I submitted another plugin a year ago, it took like 2 weeks to be published.
just checked now, submitted May 31, released June 15
Probably there is too much submissions
merry field
@proud skiff You need a project file and a generally a demo level
and those are part of the submission, the pack that is downloaded by customers
So the project/demo assets also get reviewed
@ebon leaf They took 25 days for my last submission (Blueprints)
vapid tundra
If its not part of the product i would remove it tbh. As it could be misleading for people.
crimson wave
Any marketplace publishers here who publish on both Marketplace and Unity Asset Store? I'm curious to the sales numbers between the two
proud skiff
@vapid tundra Ye the spider is a free epic asset I added IK bones to so I don't mind if I include it or not. People can download the spider free if they really wanted and install the system onto it it I just didn't want bloat in the addon pack as 99% of people would be wanting to install it to their own game /character
modern perch
I don't remember a free spider asset from Epic?
proud skiff
It's in infinity blade : Adversaries @modern perch
vapid tundra
oh i was reffering to @ebon leaf hehe
proud skiff
ahh ok ๐
proud skiff
@merry field I think I understand now thanks.. I will just add turn to the spider and leave it as part of the pack then... It's easier for people to delete the spider than migrate if I changed to a project type.
merry field
I make a sample folder under content to put all the demo-related assets into
That keeps it clean for people
proud skiff
Ye makes sense, might just name it "can be deleted" ...
tame compass
hi, i am new to market. do people often buy 25$ asset ?
north stirrup
@tame compass Depends on the asset
tame compass
so i will make monster with custom made collision, realistic looking, detailed, animated, with vertex LOD.
but i wonder do people will buy 25$ since model in market devaluated
delicate dove
if its good content, people will buy it.
vital crag
Hi peeps! Anyone knows if marketplace packs are allowed with additional non-ue external contents? Eg. A backend and itโs setup guide paired with the unreal implementation.
daring raven
@vital crag Kubolds comes with source .fbx files, so to some extent
lunar gulch
Did you guys get an invite for the flash sale? I didn't
vital crag
I wanna include php and sql files ๐
lilac heath
Haha registered for the flash sale and got fetured instead.
delicate dove
@lunar gulch multiple people didnt. few complaints about it on the forums.
@vital crag yes you are allowed to add external content.
delicate dove
talk related to piracy is not allowed. please read the #old-rules
terse loom
Hey ๐ how many days it needs to payout from marketolace after payments start. I'm living in Georgia(country) and using paypal
old ridge
@terse loom do you mean how often to do you get paid? It's by the 15th of every month for the previous month.
old ridge
No worries y
Anyone have any suggestions for a marketplace pack? What would you guys find most useful?
Looking for my next project.
terse loom
@old ridge do you make bp or vfx stuff??
vital crag
@delicate dove cheers mate!
old ridge
@terse loom just 3D art
ebon leaf
I find animation and game systems useful and as for 3d assets I just make them in Blender.
So if the next month brings more of the system assets I'll be happy
pure pendant
@old ridge content creation tools as editor widgets - stuff like mograph from C4d - or something like Signal from Greyscale Gorrilla which is a procedural motion tool - i would assume that alot of artists don't want to use blueprints - so all the people who are starting to use it for films and art and projection mapping pre-rendered gigs even Vr experiences there's no EASY way of adding procedural noise- animation etc without using blueprints and the downside for that is those dont play when you are using Sequencer until you render or hit play so its really challenging to animate to stuff you can't see
novel isle
something to jsons http request like varest but other it alwayas crash my bp
ebon leaf
question. what are you supposed to put in a whitelist of a code plugin? I can only test mine on Windows, and I'm pretty sure it will work on other desktop platforms, but I cannot test on other platforms. Plugin only uses standard unreal api, and does some sphere traces, that's all. Is it safe to put other platforms too?
north stirrup
@ebon leaf Install clang on Windows
And compile with it too
You'll probably get a bunch of errors that you don't get with msvc
But even then you probably won't be safe
lean venture
@ebon leaf Life hack: if you whitelist platform for which you don't know if you plugin has errors, the Epic reviewers will attempt to compile it and will give you the log with errors.
merry field
I don't recall it being announced, though bear in mind that they always ask sellers not to say when the next sale is going to be
ebon leaf
lol
i was having issues with the marketplace checkout once
I sent a support email and suprisingly, when it comes to not being able to give them money, the support comes support quick
hollow falcon
did you fix your array issue Glitch? It was an accessed none on server travel right?
hollow falcon
ensure the array is set before travel is what I would suggest. But I obviously dont know your setup specifically
ebon leaf
i dont even know what array it's referring to. I think it's a 4.22 bug
cause I right clicked the project file of a 4.21 old copy of my project, set it to 4.22, and it broke the server trave
wintry pine
Does anyone know of a marketplace asset/plugin for placing actors in a level in realtime? Like placing furniture in an archviz scene. Pretty sure I've seen these before but can't seem to find any now
lone mountain
@onyx flower I'm surprised Epic allows anyone to sell anything during big sales (especially in flash sale) if they don't adhere to normal marketplace rules...such as updating to the last version within 30 days. Is that not a rule still?
I actually still see assets on the marketplace that haven't updated in 10 versions
leaden root
The latest version rule is gone
lone mountain
hmmphh
When you go to checkout...
And you get a BS error msg
And there's only 15 mins left for the sale ๐
hmm, second time it didn't take either...
Guess these $400 stays with me today
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Ah wells
hollow falcon
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/rpg-engine-toolkit
This link seems to redirect me to the China slug. That shouldn't happen.
oak whale
@hollow falcon What do you mean?
modern perch
link redirects you to:
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/slug/rpg-engine-toolkit
not sure that's a problem tho
mortal sluice
Jeez the quality of the latest modular assets on the marketplace is ass
Straight out a 2008 low budget game
Cant epic hire some proper modeller for some assets and then sell them?
merry field
Why should Epic hire people to make Marketplace content?
quaint cedar
@shadow inlet @onyx flower @idle arch
Can we finally get bigger companies, like GameSparks, to update their SDK or get off of the Marketplace?
https://i.imgur.com/FgVQIuh.png
Or is it fine by now to just have some 4.18 asset sitting on the MP?
I mean, your userbase is updating their SDK in the comment section by now
quaint cedar
Idk if "doesn't exist" is correct here @modern perch ?
They are very much existing, just recently changed their pricing model.
modern perch
I guess
but even so, their software hasn't been updated for any platform since the acquisition
quaint cedar
Yeah cause they got told to trash all the stuff they had and turn it into something that Amazon wants
And that's all fine, but either they continue to support the MP product, or Epic should remove it.
Same rules for everyone
modern perch
aye
lone mountain
But, what about people who couldn't partake in Flash Sale because of fake errors caused by technical glitches of the marketplace ๐
north stirrup
Shhh
onyx flower
@quaint cedar We only require them to be functional for the engine versions they've marked to support: https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/marketplace-guidelines?sessionInvalidated=true#31a
quaint cedar
Guess I'm not uptodate with that anymore
modern perch
that's what has been enforced on other sellers in the past
quaint cedar
Cool, guess I won't stress with product updates anymore from today on
quaint cedar
Yop, really don't see the reason for that.
Products should be kept up to date with the newest engine version
Don't need 10-20 versions old stuff on the MP
lone mountain
modern perch
not much point selling products that are for versions of the engine that are two years old
lone mountain
1.4.2.b
modern perch
(4.18 was a long time ago now)
lone mountain
doesn't that state what we're talking about?
modern perch
no
onyx flower
"initial"
quaint cedar
But everything after that doesn't need to be updated anymore
What's the reason for that, Victor?
lone mountain
No..
Read that again
Once submitted
You have to maintain
That's how I read that
Or else you need to reword that
lone mountain
Hmm
quaint cedar
Even if not, why was the "keep updated" rule removed?
quaint cedar
Quality Content on the MP also entails that it's up to date with UE4.
lone mountain
If it's not that "every product must contain a (version of the engine that has the lastest engine version as a supported engine version), that doesn't state that ONLY during initial submission.
quaint cedar
People literally can't use GameSparks 4.19+ and have to pass links in the comments to version they fixed themselves.
How is that quality?
lone mountain
That reads: from then on
modern perch
it clearly states upon initial submission
lone mountain
It's how it is to be interpreted, that's the issue
Regardless, not enforcing MP assets to be on the latest version is stupid as heck
onyx flower
@quaint cedar I'm not sure
lone mountain
It's like you all really want a trash marketplace
quaint cedar
Well, it would be cool if you could pass on the feedback to reintroduce the forced version updates.
I really thought this was a given thing.
elfin plinth
it definitely was
quaint cedar
Yeah it was, I know. That's why I'm calling out GameSparks for the past year
elfin plinth
it was super strict
quaint cedar
We even got Email reminders iirc
lone mountain
I don't get why they wouldn't WANT to enforce it? It's not like it does them any good having old ass asset on there... people won't buy it...
So it's not like they are getting any money from those sales...0 of 0 = 0
So, by enforcing engine updates, they will gain more sales. I see it all the time in the comments.
"Update to so and so engine version so I can buy"
modern perch
"While we do encourage you to keep your productsโ engine compatibility up-to-date for the ease and convenience of your customers, we only require that products are compatible with the latest major engine version upon initial submission and approval. If youโre no longer updating one of your products for any reason, please be sure to clarify this on your product page. Itโs ultimately up to you to ensure that you are providing support for your product to function as it is described." - from the FAQ
I mean being one engine version behind isn't the end of the world
but when the content is two years out of date, it's a problem
shadow inlet
Not all assets immediately lose their usefulness when a new engine version goes live. And not all folks are using the latest engine version. Should you be prevented from selling assets just because you're not as active anymore?
lone mountain
One engine version can be crucial. Especially with code plugins
quaint cedar
Blueprint and Code assets should be kept up to date yes.
lone mountain
API changes quite a bit, sometimes destroys codebase
shadow inlet
Ultimately, you're the seller and you're looking to sell YOUR products.
lone mountain
So, you don't mind people just dumping off assets and never again updating to newest versions?
quaint cedar
So we should just all downvote GameSparks at this point?
lone mountain
Also, ART ASSETS are a problem here as well @shadow inlet
modern perch
if engine versions are going to be out of date, then it needs to be very clearly marked as such on the marketplace page
lone mountain
In 4.20/4.21 there was a change to Mobile Skeletons
lone mountain
That means if people did not submit a change to fix it, people would NOT be able to use those assets on Mobile
I think it was skeleton bone counts
modern perch
but also it really sucks for end users to buy a license for a plugin, only to find out come next engine version, that it's never going to support future engine versions
elfin plinth
I thought UE4 mobile dev is super niche thing unless you got some popular ue4 game to port to it
lone mountain
It was some crazy bug that Epic couldn't fix...so they just capped it..lol
modern perch
without source code for that asset, that plugin can then become totally useless
quaint cedar
Idk, I mean sure, everyone can decide on their own if they want to further support their products, but a system like UE4, where every few months a new update comes out, I would hope that whatever I buy gets support at least as long as it's on the marketplace.
lone mountain
But that meant that all art assets with the bone count higher, couldn't be used on Mobile
quaint cedar
Now I'm better off not getting code plugins from the MP, cause apparently companys like GameSparks don't update
shadow inlet
I'll bring your feedback up with the MP team
quaint cedar
Thanks
hasty nexus
i also believe it's seller's responsibility to keep it's products updated. It's his product and his shop page sort of speaking.
lone mountain
@shadow inlet Also, who can I talk to about the Marketplace Checkout not working for me during the Flash Sale ๐ญ Used the same card I have been all year long. But 10 tries - 10 failures ๐ฆ
shadow inlet
@hasty nexus - that was how the team was feeling about it.
@lone mountain - Did you create a case?
lone mountain
I contacted Support and Marketplace Support last night. How long does it usually take to hear back from them?
modern perch
"It's his product and his shop page sort of speaking."
This isn't really true though, since all products are shown by default
it's his product, but the store page is shared by everyone
shadow inlet
Yesterday was a holiday, so I imagine you'll hear something today.
lone mountain
Ok, no problem.
quaint cedar
I would also think that if you put your product onto a store by e.g. Epic Games, that there are certain rules to follow.
That's what made the MP special
shadow inlet
The team is working to find a balance
lone mountain
Well, technically...I guess the rules were changed recently without letting people know?
quaint cedar
Idk, I never look into them cause most of it is for new submissions
lone mountain
So, technically they are being followed. You don't have to update your products anymore. The customers are the ones losing.
shadow inlet
We don't want to be too exclusive
But we also want great assets
we want folks to have confidence in the products they buy
lone mountain
It doesn't need to be great. It just needs to be updated to latest engine versions ๐
quaint cedar
If you don'T want to force people to update, then at least mark assets as NOT uptodate
shadow inlet
๐
lone mountain
Let us decide what's great or not
hasty nexus
sellers have all reasons to keep products updated. if not then their loss..
lone mountain
I don't know when that rule was changed, but it's definitely a silly change imho.
quaint cedar
It takes 30 minutes to get that setup
shadow inlet
Well, that's why we've made changes to be more lenient in general, but we get feedback that the assets aren't great or that the products are getting worse...
It's been quite awhile now...
quaint cedar
If someone can't offer the 10 minutes to get their project working in the next version, then idk
lone mountain
I started noticing it more and more this past year for sure
How people weren't updating their products to latest
But last night, I spent 2+ hours running through the Flash Sale
shadow inlet
But just because it's less relevant to more folks, doesn't mean someone wouldn't find value in that.
That's where we get torn.
lone mountain
And I saw a lot of products that haven't been updated between 2-10 versions
shadow inlet
Yes, ideally, everyone is updating their stuff. It's better for the sellers, for your sales, and the customers can be confident their product works with the latest releases.
10 versions seems extreme O.O
lone mountain
I can find you probably at least 5 marketplace assets in the next 10 mins if you want ๐
quaint cedar
Idk, in the end do whatever you want with the marketplace. It just kinda shocked me that updating your project properly isn't enforced anymore
lone mountain
quaint cedar
Welp
lone mountain
there's one. I am glad we have sort
but that's a 2d pack..
so it's uh... debateable
Still though
modern perch
it could still be fine, but we're talking about a very long time, so chances are it isn't :/
lone mountain
who knows what could be wrong with it
modern perch
things like texture settings etc are likely to have changed since then
lone mountain
7 versions, BP project
there's no way that's 100% good
and this guy is active...
I don't get it...people are like...I am not buying your product, unless you update... he goes... I might update for compatibility sake... but didn't
shadow inlet
Then don't buy it. That's the point of a MP. You have the right to choose whether you think that product is valuable or not.
shadow inlet
If not, that individual has lost a sale to someone that may build it. Or keep it up-to-date.
lone mountain
make it a more user-friendly place to shop
Why do we have to go look and be disappointed that it's no up to date?
Why do we have to go and be excited about something... buy a product even if it's out of date...then have lots of issues with it?
modern perch
I think you can filter by engine version at least?
lone mountain
Why is this burden being put on the customer... and NOT the asset creator?
At the very least... don't allow them to put their assets into BIG sales
unless they are on the latest version
modern perch
even so, things like code plugins that are multiple years out of date are unlikely to be of use to anyone
lone mountain
Right, of course. But I mean, it doesn't take more than a hour or two to make sure that your asset is compatible or not (and if you need to update it)
To an engine version
modern perch
you can't make them work with a newer engine revision unless you have the source code, and I doubt people looking for code plugins are going to be on an engine version from years ago
lone mountain
But we as consumers are wasting A LOT of time looking at old content
potentially unuseable
modern perch
eh, it's not that bad, you can literally just filter it all out
hasty nexus
but the thing is that if a product is on marketplace, then it passed an initial quality check. You know it's working for that version, it does what it says it does. If seller doesn't keep it up-to-date, it doesn't make that product less relevant for those versions it supports. I don't know, i feel like this should be only on seller's shoulders.
Enforcing sellers within a time frame to do the updates might lead to other complications
lone mountain
Yes, it being updated to the latest engine
proud skiff
Well If you don't update beyond the initial version you supported when submitting your content that then that is a loss of future customers. But it should never be mandatory for all content to be updated to all future versions, I don't think that would work
modern perch
I'm pretty happy with stuff that is as much as ten versions out of date being delisted
lone mountain
ten is too long
modern perch
ten was just the example, since there are things that are ten versions out of date
lone mountain
aye
modern perch
I don't feel like those products benefit anyone any more
candid rivet
just put a checkbox at the top "Current Versions" that's on by default.
lone mountain
So this is the problem here
You are just allowing excuses for unupdated products
We, as customers
candid rivet
i don't have to see them then
candid rivet
you can take a horse to water and all that
lone mountain
(obviously backwards compatibility is a bit different)
Bro, you aren't making any lick of sense
Anyway, I guess your horse has been beaten enough though
candid rivet
the saying is "you can take a horse to water but you can't make him drink" you're not going to be able to force anyone to update, if they don't update now, they'll just let their stuff get delisted
lone mountain
But they won't?
Because there's no rule for that
And the only rule that kept us customers "content with the marketplace" was removed (having 30 days to update to newest version)
candid rivet
maybe not, i don't care if people don't want to support something, they're not obligated, but i'd like to filter it out automatically sometimes
i guess everyone gonna have a different approach
lone mountain
Man, lol. My account was flagged as fraud...wtf lol
I didn't even buy anything from the Epic MegaSale
Sigh
hasty nexus
probably you tried to buy froma different location and you got an IP from a different country than your card is released from. With some payment processors this triggers a fraud
lone mountain
Nope
Always the same IP, same PC
Same Card
Literally nothing changed from one month ago when I bought stuff for the gamejam
shadow inlet
Initial error may not have been fraud, but if you tried over and over again, then it may have been?
lone mountain
Nope, it looks like it was fraud from the very first transaction
Hopefully they can figure out what caused it so others don't get it in the future. I know that whole EGS, buying multiple games thing gave false positives for fraud.
all's wells that ends well. might take a few days, but at least I won't be SOL. ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
put some more money in some of you's pockets
delicate dove
just read back the conversation about outdated products.
"then dont buy it"
lol
just lol
and on the "we dont want to be too exclusive"
/me looks at all the outrage about the epic games store.
Im sorry, but it all just sounds so..
unmeant
"we dont care your content is getting swamped in low quality content and un-updated content" is what that sounds like. and while you might not mean it that way.
to us sellers, it does.
proud skiff
"just put a checkbox at the top "Current Versions" that's on by default." search for latest version by default would be a good solution...
modern perch
you can already filter by engine versions
old engine versions should just be off by default
proud skiff
yup
shadow inlet
It is certainly not meant to say we don't care. You as a consumer have the right to make a decision whether to buy something or not, you have the ability to filter out the kind of content you don't want to see, and as a seller, you can choose whether to update and take care of your products.
If you're supporting your products, the hope is you'll get good ratings, great comments and people will come back to buy your stuff. If the seller isn't taking care of their customers, people will stop buying their packs.
The challenge we face is where to draw the line.
Do we let more folks in, with more lenient guidelines and let the market decide? Or do we block potential sales of individuals by enforcing stricter rules?
@modern perch - Your suggestion for default engines to be off by default came up in our chat. It's one thing we're tossing around.
lone mountain
Heh
That's one way to do it
But please let the asset creators know
Your stuff won't show up by default if you are NOT up to date on engine version
shadow inlet
That's something we'd absolutely message.
lone mountain
That will at least get these guys thinking...oh maybe I should update my packs ๐
daring raven
as a consumer of the marketplace, I'd like to vote with my dollars for the more supported well maintained asset, but the marketplace is so lopsided (so many art assets vs code) that it doesn't often feel like there may be alternatives to a code plugin that's out of date
shadow inlet
Yep, we'd definitely like to encourage/incentivize people to keep them updated (beyond the fact that their packs will just sell better if kept up-to-date)
magic holly
modern perch
also they have zero quality control, and there are a large number of ripped assets on there etc :/
lone mountain
I prefer not to have a flood of free stuff anyway
(I don't mind the monthly selection that's been going on since they are usually of decent quality)
ebon leaf
did anybody here tried to sell their assets on other stores, or directly?
I'm wondering which kind of license you need to put?
Marketplace manages all that stuff for me, but other stores ?
(just asking because of the long waiting times for marketplace review process)
delicate dove
the vote with your dollars thought is rather moot when there is no way to examine the content before you purchase, and unlike a real company going bankrupt when they dont make sales, this content stays exactly where it is.
not to mention the guidelines that keep changing and are almost never enforced depending on who reviews.
You are the middle-person have the right to make a decision whether to accept something or not. you have the ability to filter out the content that do not bring any value to the marketplace and/or flood the marketplace with content that should --and in some cases cannot-- be used in projects.
It would be nice to see you, as the middle man support us and our content more, instead of drawing the line at "basically anything thats a uasset"
i'll leave it at that, because by now we all know its not going to get better. and thats fine. its a choice (and a specific set of priorities) that has been made. I just dont agree with that choice, or those priorities.
while I do get it from a consumer/seller/capitalist pov.
paper wadi
Personally I quite like the new approach to updates, if I see something that hasn't been updated in a reasonable time then I now know that that seller doesn't really care about their product and I simply won't buy it. It's a better indication of the support you're likely to get.
elfin plinth
re: not all asset types need big updates / updates per each engine version
^ this is even more poor excuse
that's like saying it doesn't even take effort to update and people still won't do it
I mean, in that case all you'd have to do is test that the assets load on engine version x and upload
or I dunno if there's a procedure to just mark it compatible with multiple versions, I don't sell at ue4 marketplace for countless reasons
north stirrup
Like being an unity user? ๐ฌ
elfin plinth
I'd actually have ue4 physics plugin I'd want to make but Epic's plans and policies get in the way
merry field
(You should, of course, test that it actually works on that version first)
elfin plinth
Chaos physics kinda ruined the market for anything physx based now
regardless chaos not being production ready for a long time
probably not in years
merry field
Seems like the current system doesn't really help anyone. People trying to sell marketplace assets aren't happy because their assets are drowned in rubbish, customers aren't happy because they can'f find good assets amongst things that they can't use
A bit like the Steam problem
daring raven
(if anyone is looking for ideas of things I'd like to see on the marketplace... a large collection of useful UMG widgets wouldn't go unloved)
delicate dove
and awesome blutilities
strange lynx
As a long time Unity user recently moved to Unreal..
The Unity marketplace has the same issues. It's just been around longer and has a MUCH larger userbase. There are really good assets on there as well as low quality ones.
Engine version compatibility is listed there too.
No matter what Epic decides to do with the store, there is always going to be the possibility of making a subpar purchase.
There will always be assets that aren't optimized, that aren't that great.. Thats what reviews are for. The free market ultimately decides in the end.
daring raven
of reviews on almost anything is pretty darn low
hard to get anything meaningful out of them most of the time
strange lynx
Yeah true, the market place isn't as active as unity's thats for sure
lilac heath
Are you able to temporally take a product of the marketplace to stop people buying it for a short period while work is done to resolve an issue.
@ebon leaf some one mentioned a hide button. Could not finds it and thought I had imagined it. Will have a wee gander
@ebon leaf yaa cheeky wee dancer. Found it . Thanks boss
merry field
I'm also curious as to what qualifies as awesome blutilities
elfin plinth
I'd disagree on the review system working on ue4 marketplace
people give even subpar assets 5 stars
you have to have a really problematic asset to get less
there's like no proper range in the reviews
also doesn't help that at least old marketplace staff removed negative reviews once the asset publisher asked them to
vapid tundra
Yep. It's clear that there is review abuse on some assets.
elfin plinth
it was totally biased system
vapid tundra
probably like: give them out for free get max star rating etc.
elfin plinth
I've never seen them remove biased 5 star reviews tho
but then again
ue4 marketplace isn't transparent
you can't put written review on asset with a number like in unity asset store
there you know what people really complain about if they give low score
on ue marketplace, people mainly complain on the comments if the asset isn't updated to version x of the engine
that's about it
vapid tundra
Yeah. Also the comment system isn't even useful as there's no automatic notification system in place.
Creators have to check on every single comment by themselves...
elfin plinth
I'd like to see similar system that Amazon has, like stats for each star amount and them linked to written reviews so you can see what different people like and dislike
vapid tundra
thats pretty annoying i guess
elfin plinth
or you just think they don't have a reasons
I'd imagine most common reason would be: they couldn't get it to work
which often isn't even assets fault
and after seeing all scammers on marketplaces like this, I could imagine people could downvote competing assets too ๐
coral fog
Hey all, does anyone know whether its allowed to sell an example project on the marketplace which uses the Advanced Sessions plugin? Can't really find a concrete (recent) answer.
elfin plinth
@coral fog I'd ask the author of Advanced Sessions plugin first
technically you can have MIT etc licensed content as part of the pack but it better not be the main thing you are selling at
coral fog
Its in the zip:
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy
of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal
in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights
to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell
copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is
furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:
The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all
copies or substantial portions of the Software.
THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM,
OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
SOFTWARE.```it's more about the courtesy
people have tried to sell others freely distributed work at marketplace almost as is in past
that's not welcome and considered as shady, trying to benefit from others work
coral fog
oh yeah i'd totally include it as requested, i'm more worried about the previous stance Epic has had regarding plugins (specifically, plugins that aren't available on the marketplace)
elfin plinth
but if it's not the main thing you are selling, I'd guess it's fine, there's no rules against it
or actually
not 100% sure about this as the license has to be compliant with ue4 eula
I dunno where the copyright requirement stands with that
coral fog
yeah, ive literally spent all day trying to find out.
coral fog
yep been looking through those but its not overly clear
2.6.4.c Example projects should have .uproject descriptors that depend on productsโ plugins, but should not contain the actual plugins, as customers should only be installing those from the Epic Games Launcher.
Dunno if that applies
elfin plinth
2.2.f Products must not use third party software licensed under GPL, LGPL, EPL, or MSPL.
that hints MIT, BSD etc are fine
coral fog
yeah im not actually sure what type of license the plugin is under... just says it can be used, not what type
unfortunately it seems like there's no way to get in touch with Epic about this prior to submitting the project for approval.
elfin plinth
it is not a copyleft license which would be an issue
shadow inlet
@elfin plinth - The next thing on our roadmap is to update the comments and ratings system. The idea being that devs can ask questions in one spot and then leave reviews/ratings on purchased items.
modern perch
hasty nexus
better late than never. now I see there's also a pop-up that notifies you when session is expired. Lots of updates lately. Happy happy joy joy.
modern perch
I believe the feature was requested five years ago now
hasty nexus
@shadow inlet and i hope there's gonna be an email sent to the publisher when someone asks a question or such.
shadow inlet
That's the plan
elfin plinth
well, I hope it makes simpler to see the difference between the customers that actually bought the items vs random comments
and I was serious about the amazon system, being able to see the star amounts helps a lot, especially if people just give stupid reviews like one stars that don't reflect the overall quality
I think windows store has that too, maybe google play as well, can't remember
being able to link the written review and rating is priceless, it really helps a lot on the transparency
modern perch
1 star - "product didn't do this totally random expectation I had"
quite common on amazon
mortal sluice
Expected gatorade to nourish plants?
quaint cedar
@shadow inlet Will it entail having Ratings linked to Comments(Reviews)?
shadow inlet
Yep!
quaint cedar
Awesome, thanks!
mortal sluice
Maybe a proper list of assets
And to search for them
Looking at packs with so much mostly unrelated content costs so much time
Unity does a so much better job with this
๐
elfin plinth
@modern perch that's exactly why I like the Amazon's review system
modern perch
aye
elfin plinth
you can immediately see if the 1 star reviews are BS
delicate dove
ouch, I feel for this person who missed it.
https://i.gyazo.com/fac6bcbcf7456f9e340332b9fe9af7dc.png
modern perch
you can keep it around for prototyping I guess
but you could never use it in anything you release publicly
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
worn oyster
shazbot!
modern perch
that is so obviously the Tribes Ascend default flying pose, lol
worn oyster
loved that game, but too many cheaters in the end
modern perch
it was great, but they absolutely ruined the balance with the weapon variants, and it all went to shit from there
don't get me started on the 'Out of the Blue' update where they incorporated balance changes dictated by veteran players ๐
worn oyster
nah the game was really good, i actually dont know why it didnt take off bigtime
modern perch
it did for a while
they halved their player count in about two weeks when they released the SAP20 or whatever it was called
game never recovered
worn oyster
i was nearly unbeatable in my shrike , didnt matter what weapon ppl used ๐
modern perch
I largely ignored Shrikes
if you fly low enough they're not so much of a threat anyway
worn oyster
if ur a flag grabber goin 1000 km/h mayB
those slippery shazbots ๐
ill just keep the pack to meme with ๐
modern perch
hehe
I used to flag cap, but as an infiltrator
most people who play the game get ingrained into using pathfinders, but if you have good routes you can woosh through without even being seen ๐
the lava map in particular, I forget it's name
just come in straight through the big open space and casually cruise over the hill ๐
worn oyster
i thought that one gamemode was really good but went dead after like 3 days
worn oyster
nah hold bases, like battlefield
modern perch
ah yeah, I played that a bit for a while
but it lacked the speedy speedy zoomy zoomness of it all
worn oyster
yea but great for shrike murder
modern perch
https://www.pcgames.de/screenshots/original/2015/09/Tribes_Ascend__7_-pc-games_b2article_artwork.jpg
aha, there's the pose
not the clearest image alas
worn oyster
that was a fun lvl, but i loved it more if i could boost trough tunnels and get roadkills with my shrike inside buildings ๐
or midair roadkills with the bike those were damn good ๐
modern perch
nah, it's all about superheavy infiltrator on flag
just wait for a capper to come in and paste themselves on an invisible wall ๐
worn oyster
hmm i went superheavy on bike, switch to 2nd seat shoot my nades and drive off ๐
sinful kelp
@daring raven that keeps happening every time i upload, so far found no fix
maybe they are using some new encoding
daring raven
Yeah it's not just you, I see it all over
lone mountain
That's part two (timestamped) of that btw
Also, I remember him now...he's had a lot of shady stuff over the past few years
he's gotten banned from the forums
created a new account
got onto marketplace
and got himself into more drama
But he deleted all his old videos ๐ญ
raven ferry
I think there's a vulnerability in the rating system on the marketplace hmm
but I'm not really sure
static violet
@modern perch Tribes ascend is closed right? it was a nice game, honestly...
modern perch
closed a while back yeah
worn oyster
dont think i got an email saying i cant use the pack
merry field
They didn't say you can't use it, they said you are using it at your own risk
jagged badger
Hi All, I have recently released my new Arctic Landscape which I did back in 2017. With new and improved textures, materials, LODs plus many more.You can find it available on:
UE4 marketplace: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/slug/3124a50fdbf94200a67d0088fcf324b5
If you have questions please don't hesitate to message me. ๐
harsh coral
I didn't get any email notifications for the flash sale or for the jetpack anims
was just about to use the jetpack flying animations in my project
luckily i check this channel from time to time
noble heart
Hi everyone happy to announce that we update our Align Tool and add a visual align,multidimensional array tool and much more.
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/slug/assetbuilder-tools
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTdNGtxaoLA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEyziNo7OTk&feature=youtu.be
lone mountain
hmm, I wonder if there's a merit to adding a separate channel just for MarketplaceReleases/Updates
I know as a dev who frequents the MP, I'd be interested
I think having two separate channels for Marketplace would be nice as a customer tbh
One for discussions, one for promotions (new releases/updates)
north stirrup
I agree
terse loom
Hey guys
What should I do for payout from marketplace?
I have already set up my paypal info
merry field
What do you mean, "do"?