I'm not sure if it didn't work or if there's just so much on the Marketplace now that downloading all the images and such would take hours
#fab
modern perch
yeah, Allar's stuff is a bit dated now
chances are it's no longer functional due to marketplace software changes
merry field
Likely
candid rivet
ya i think the biggest problem is the marketplace page itself, you can't find shit you're specifically looking for, let alone good impulse buys to find by chance. I went through all the pages twice, i'm convinced i've still missed things, i bought a few things on my radar, but it's so frickin tedious i can't be assed to go back to look for more
pliant forum
@delicate dove Gave you +2 Sales and +2 5star ratings just now. Thanks for providing quality products!
delicate dove
https://giphy.com/gifs/dwarf-snow-white-and-the-seven-dwarves-aww-shucks-26vUxJ9rqfwuIEkTu thanks ๐
topaz solstice
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/dismemberment-gore-system Made this with my bro recently, check it out if you like your zombies to gib hard
fleet sun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8aZVCt0Yaw&feature=youtu.be Just finish implement my own DialoguePlugin, I'm planning release to marketplace, but because this plugin will depend on my other plugins that already released in marketplace, not sure if it is a good idea to put Plugin dependency in .uplugin or should I put all other plugin's functions into single plugin.
hallow wagon
@topaz solstice How did you make that?
topaz solstice
@hallow wagon two of us worked on it for a couple of months, lotta hard work...
hallow wagon
From what I understand is you can shoot off certain limbs?
topaz solstice
That's exactly right.
hallow wagon
My friend does it by shrinking the bone to 0 or something iirc.
topaz solstice
The system is basically a cheap and comprehensive way to achieve dismemberment because it involves spawning limbs on a local basis and despawning them when there are too many onscreen
topaz solstice
Sure, that's basically how - offset the vertices around the skinned bone area to a singular point and spawn in a dismembered mesh copy at that local rotation/position
hallow wagon
I feel like there's a better way to do that.
modern perch
nah, that's pretty standard
hide the skeletal version (i.e shrink bones to zero), spawn a different mesh for the dismembered version
nocturne scaffold
I have $350 in my cart atm.... I cant stop. I need help XD
lean venture
@nocturne scaffold Here, take this: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/uworks
I hear it's a life-changer.
nocturne scaffold
im up to $400! No more. XD
lean venture
Np. I got you covered: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/profile/Vlad+Serbanescu
nocturne scaffold
HAHA
lean venture
I have no clue what you bought with those last $50, but I know you could've spent them on a far better product.
nocturne scaffold
I am working a SP rpg game so mostly what i need is prop work. We have plenty of Devs. Lacking in the model division
nice work tho.
lean venture
Ty! Best wishes then! Check MAWI's assets ^^
ebon leaf
Where is documentation typically included with marketplace items? This thing says it has a pdf but I can't find it anywhere.
merry field
When you import it into your project
there will be a content folder created, the pdf should be in there
ebon leaf
With all the other assets?
merry field
but it won't show up in the editor, you need to open the project dir in your file explorer
Yes
Or it might end up in your project's main dir
ebon leaf
Yea that's what I suspected but haven't been able to find it anywhere
merry field
e.g. My Documents\Unreal Projects\TestProject
ebon leaf
Unless its like a hidden file or something weird
Doing a search in my root folder for .pdf doesn't turn results. Guess I'll contact the guy
merry field
Hmm, for mine I just put a link on the marketplace page, to a google doc
as well as the readme
ebon leaf
It's possible that he intended to have a pdf before deciding to just do videos. The references to a pdf are old and there are videos posted
merry field
Could well be, you could contact the seller and ask
or point out that they might want to fix it
long crane
Do you guys think that people would be interested in a Battle Royale Inventory Component to add to their actors? It's very modular and has many settings to adapt to any style of battle royale. It will also come with item spawners that use loot tables and complex spawning logic. Let me know what you guys think!
The reason i'm asking is because i do not want to clutter the matketplace with something that people would not purchase.
leaden root
There is already quite a few inventory components, some specifically for battle royale so you would have some competition
long crane
Alright, thanks.. I think i'll add more features to separate it from the competition even more ๐
lucid osprey
i think everyone does that XD
you will just have the same competition XD
but prolly good buys... its easy to cash in on pubg clones
long crane
Yeah, that's the thing... the other ones are setup and hard to customise
long crane
i've put more of a focus on allowing people to integrate it into your own battle royale without players knowing it's a template
long crane
oh true
well, i could make a BR
do you think that'd go better
the ones on the marketplace aren't great (hope i dont offend anyone)
long crane
?_?
long crane
why not?
lucid osprey
a glimpse into the mind of the trickster
long crane
So cryptic...
lucid osprey
whats so cryptic about making fun of someone who wants to cash in on people who want to clone the battle royale games XD
these people will shove all their money into you XD
long crane
oh, i just didnt get what you were saying
lucid osprey
prolly they end up with nothing bc they stnd 0 chance
i am full into your plan ๐
but dont you think its funny that it is that easy?
long crane
but, they may end up with a product that they can play with with their friends
long crane
well, the br will be set up in a way that it works out of the box
lucid osprey
yes make it easy so they can start out fast
long crane
i just dont know how i can get the user to compile a dedicated server
lucid osprey
but you can give the basics for that
long crane
cuz they arent gonna be able to do that
long crane
yeah ik that
long crane
yeah and they're 1 hr long lmao
lucid osprey
you send em tutorials
long crane
ig
lucid osprey
people who give out hundreds for BR template will watch 1 hr long tutorials
trust me ๐
lucid osprey
oh my god ๐
long crane
to just fuck up the whole market pricng lmao
lucid osprey
youre so evil
long crane
add me
long crane
well, lets just talk
lucid osprey
i see no evil has entered the fascility
agile shadow
Anyone heard anything back from epic regarding the free content rotation?
harsh coral
browsing the mp sale is a pain... some assets are repeated on multiple pages, seems kinda random
wonder if some assets dont get displayed because of them or it's just increasing the page count
agile shadow
Applied a few weeks ago but did not get a response. Assume they already made the decision for the next month.
wooden falcon
I don't think they're gonna tell you if you didn't make it
but you can always apply for the next month's 5 slots
delicate dove
guessing they'll just add it to a list, and pick accordingly
"this month we want X, Y, Z, A, B"
next month we want G, S, O, F, E
lucid osprey
O
worthy pawn
yesterdays purchased assets are not showing in the launcher
sent a ticket to support but not had a reply and could do with confirmation that everything is good
(before the sale ends)
delicate dove
might want to @idle arch in this case.
worthy pawn
cheers luos
ivory trench
Holy smokes I'm glad I bought all that sh** just now. (sale ended a few minutes after purchases) Kubold's anims probably won't go on sale again for a while. Here's to eating Ramen tomorrow
north stirrup
merry field
Think I sold about 11 units during the sale
idle arch
@worthy pawn there are a few cases of that happening
They should show up - just give it some time.
wooden falcon
I think I sold better on the last day than all the previous days of the sale combined
now I guess I'll enter the Long Darkness (period inbetween Sales)
merry field
I had thought people would all buy on the last day due to being indecisive like me, but apparently not for me
What I did find confusing was the person who bought one day before the sale, after no one had bought anything for ages
north stirrup
lol
wooden falcon
bad timing
lone mountain
I did
Spent quite a bit actually
And then the next day...remembered what else I needed to buy
Too late, guess I'll wait for next sale ๐
vapid tundra
next sale is ... next month? i'm getting a steam vibe tbh
agile shadow
I got a constant stream daily tbh
about the same
though i'm not a fan of the constant sales
I don't want to participate in that many sales but I feel like i have to
lone mountain
@vapid tundra I don't mind
Although I notice that creators fluctuate their % discount quite a bit too much
Sometimes it's like 60-90%, sometimes 25%
It's a strange trend I noticed with this sale
Usually, you start small, and increase your % discount as time goes on
The whole flipflopping made me weary of some purchases. Basically, I bought out a crapton of 70%+ assets though
delicate dove
yea noticed that too, while I do have client work I cant really permit myself to go 50-90% on most of my assets, but direct competition often can.
agile shadow
Yea I've made a rule that newer stuff I discount less than older stuff and never more than 50% off
Might not work for everyone but I still get enough sales at 50% off to feel like it's worthwile
candid rivet
has there been an update to the marketplace website? adblock seems to kill my web browser as soon as i visit the marketplace, no other sites will load until i close and reopen the browser
it's definitely marketplace that's killing it
merry field
That's been reported a few times recently
I'd imagine that the bug is in your ad blocker, but is being triggered by something specific on the Marketplace site
candid rivet
i saw someone mention it a couple days ago but it wasn't happening to me then
merry field
You should probably report it to the makers of ad block
merry field
Won't fix, working as designed ๐
Marketplace might be able to change the site to stop triggering the bug, but it's still a bug in the extension
candid rivet
rip epics web stuff, dunno how you get so much so wrong
merry field
I still say it's unfair to blame them for a bug in an extension, their website isn't - can't - be killing your browser, only the browser or an extension has the power to do that
If you want to complain about something, complain about that awful, clunky single sign-on
candid rivet
i'm talking in general, the whole marketplace is a nest of missed opportunity and poor design
merry field
This is true, it was designed for a much smaller set of products
candid rivet
that doesn't excuse the poor organization, lack of search options, randomization when paginating, there's probably a ton more things
spice socket
Hello, im trying to update my system on marketplace but I cant save changes because I cant choose a 4.21 version in versions while I could do that when adding a new version
candid rivet
knowing that the assets are already unreal integrated is the only reason i use the store, i usually still just go to unity store lol
merry field
When people hit printscreen instead of alt-printscreen, I always feel compelled to peer at their open programs (and tabs)
That's a bit odd, anyway, you should just be able to pick 4.21
Huh
It's vanished for me too
If I edit a product which is already tagged 4.20 and 4.21
there's no 4.21 box
@idle arch This seems like a bug in the publisher product editor
lean venture
@idle arch Doesn't matter what I do, I can't obtain my sales report, for any period at all. This is a new low.
merry field
I saw that yesterday, tried again a minute later and it worked
primal epoch
that doesn't excuse the poor organization, lack of search options, randomization when paginating, there's probably a ton more things
my biggest issue is the inability to present things better from a seller perspective
for example videos always having to be a link in the contents
instead of inline where the pictures are
makes it harder to show non-static assets or code plug-ins
lean venture
Since you mentioned "code plugins": I've always found this naming plain stupid in the Marketplace. Plugins CAN be BP-only or mixed. It should just say "Plugins". Before I wrote this in my docs, I used to have quite a few customers who didn't even know that I could include my whole example project in my plugin.
idle arch
@merry field Can you check now?
merry field
Looks like it's there now
I'm away from my computer at the moment, just checked on my phone, but it appears to have the 4.21 box again
merry field
Double-checked in the desktop browser, 4.21 box is definitely there again now
hollow zephyr
I need some help guys. Need to animate my Fokker airplane for the marketplace, but what's best to deliver? Only an animation set? Or set them up with blendspaces and controls?
hollow zephyr
Are you sure?
delicate dove
yup
hollow zephyr
Its the red baron airplane
delicate dove
you cant sell anything copyrighted/trademarked on the mp
unless its the copyright/trademark owner themselves, or give you written permission
hollow zephyr
Is the design of the plane or the name cooyrighted?
delicate dove
fokker copyright is still present even though they went bankrupt, anything else is on you and the research you do.
hollow zephyr
I can always remove the fokker name and just call it the red baron airplane
hollow zephyr
Its like making a red racing car from the 1910s - they all looked the same - the ones without fenders or cockpit ๐ค
I have to investigate
delicate dove
you need to adjust it enough to make it not look like a real world counterpart
and, if you are smart, make the material so that you can change metal/paint colors
hollow zephyr
You can already, its face-weighted not baked ๐
I understand how making a replica of somwthing actual is not ok, like a production gun
But 100 year old plane design? Gonna research
delicate dove
in the case it doesnt hold any rights anymore you are fine to publish, but yea, you'd need to be 100% sure, or adjust the shape and details accordingly
as for your original question, in general, the more functionality you add to it, the better.
a way to control flaps/blades, etc all add to the value
quaint cedar
Hey @idle arch the GameSparks SDK is still only 4.18
You said you would look into this. People are trying to get the Plugin working for 3 versions now.
If they don't maintain the plugin it shouldn't be on the MP.
modern perch
design of the Fokker Dr1 is likely still protected - copyrights apply until 70 years after the death of the last stakeholder
viral zinc
modern perch
I don't think there are any original aircraft left
the Dr1s still flying that I know of are recreations
there's one original aircraft in a museum in the Netherlands, IIRC, but it isn't airworthy
delicate dove
was talking about the shareholders & fokker family
modern perch
ah
delicate dove
<_< so.. has there been any update in the supported consoles when submitting a mp-pack? think switch is still not available.
lone mountain
@delicate dove why would you make something "console"-centric?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you
delicate dove
its kinda odd I can tick xbox and ps4, but not switch
lone mountain
Ahhhh
lone mountain
Aye, I agree
hollow zephyr
So I couldnt find anything useful yet. A different situation though - a P-38, for example, is designed by a private US company and you need a license to use it in a game. But it's easy, the company is still active. Now the Fokker - no clue, maybe all designs from ww1 became the allies property as war reparations, or copyright didnt exist as it does now, or it was transfered but expired...so no idea yet ๐
delicate dove
I think you would spend time more wisely just changing it enough to not be the same plane.
add a wheel, different steering wheel, different proppellor, beefed out engine, different welds, bolts, wires.
heck, make it a boat :p
hollow zephyr
๐ yeah, probably that - remove the fokker name. the design is not 100% accurate anyway - it can be a generic ww1 airplane
modern perch
I'd remove the crosses too, or at least change the design (then you can also do a variant with a 'Sopworth' colour scheme too)
delicate dove
lol
wooden falcon
I can imagine what that means
modern perch
doesn't really mean anything
'feck' is just a nondescript curseword
safe for daytime TV
topaz pivot
'fockin'
agile valve
frackin
hollow zephyr
what about the AK47 guns on the marketplace? ๐ค how does licensing work for them?
delicate dove
shouldve read that link I send you, they are retroactively removing anything that has copyrighted content
though some guns dont have copyright, but iunno which ones
hollow zephyr
๐ค ok
lilac heath
@hristew AK-47 intellectual property belongs to Kalashnikov, unless permission has been explicitly given to use there likeness for resell and profit to the market place seller. There is a very good chance there is a breach in copyright and intellectual property.
gloomy bramble
lunar fractal
yeah homepage is updated, free products page has not
delicate dove
lol
@idle arch might also want to look at the comments in https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/uiws-unified-interactive-water-system
just shows people have no idea what value is.
vapid tundra
hmm peeps whinning about the price? I mean you don't have to buy it? ... ๐
delicate dove
if anybody can do better within the timeframe of those costs..
merry field
Those cliffs look nice, I saw those before while browsing
delicate dove
i purchased them about half a year ago, they are quite sweet
merry field
I was thinking of writing my own, but that looks like it has all the kind of features I'd wanted to create
I never started on it because I don't know how to make custom graphs like that
vapid tundra
is there something you didn't already bought? ๐ @delicate dove
merry field
๐
vapid tundra
could do an asset review blog hehe
delicate dove
only have a fraction of the mp content, while I do know a few who purchase every pack.
hmm should consider adding them to the team just for that XD
"office lliama"
modern perch
I haven't seen that water package before, but the description sounds good. Anyone tried it and taken a look?
delicate dove
i think the author(s) have a demo on their website
modern perch
Definitely needs a downloadable demo though
If they do, it's not advertised
On mobile on a train atm
delicate dove
cant find it, i think i saw them post a link a while ago on fb
its used in ultimate fishing sim, though its the unity version
modern perch
Yeah, really needs a demo
If it works as advertised, 400 euros isn't a bad price at all
lone mountain
Glad I didn't get that dialogue plugin
@delicate dove as for the water thing. I don't know about the price myself. I need to really see what it truly does. I expect some great shit. But then read in the comments, that it doesn't include bouyancy
I mean. Even IF it's a future feature. Not here now. So for me...it's like... Damn. I don't get Everything and the kitchen sink in that water plugin. Which I think some people may be expecting ( like myself)
delicate dove
understandable, but creating this from scratch could easily cost you tenfold, more if you have never attempted something like this. so even just adding bouyancy would still be less of a time/money waste.
lone mountain
So the thing is...and the problem that this creator faces
delicate dove
I have no need for it, but yea, I can understand thats something people would like to have as an option
lone mountain
Is to distinguish his plugin versus doing it yourself
Or even if it's half the quality
It's free right if we do it ourselves
"free"
If we include the time it takes nothing is really free
So yeah, another issue. So many cheap assets. And now free high quality assets every month.
delicate dove
as a consumer I think its a great thing, as a seller I think it might depreciate the value of the mp
lone mountain
The perception and expectations, especially for newbies or cheapos is that everything on the MP should be cheap or free
Now, obviously that shit can't happen. But the MP is becoming a race to the bottom
Lots of same asset stuff and price competition
delicate dove
yup
lone mountain
So again, the value proposition is skewed here.
Even I think so, and I know better
He'll get sales. Probably quite a bit actually.
delicate dove
ive been waaaay waaaaay less vocal this last half year or so, but its getting to the point where unless you make something small and cheap as dirt, or something that everyone wants/needs and worth the money there isnt much room for the average content
lone mountain
Not as many as if it were cheaper.
vapid tundra
Well, tbh marketplace is more about selling in quantity isn't it?
lone mountain
But since his shit is so expensive, it should offset the low sales.
@vapid tundra depends.... For me...as a real I die dev...trying to make money....
delicate dove
I reduced my impact pack 50% permanently, expecting more sales. nope, same amount of sales.
lone mountain
I rather see higher priced items
OMG phone
Then, there less likely other devs will use the same assets for their game
A water shader. No one is going to really care or think about in a game sadly
Maybe if you did a water-based game. With boats. So it's the main thing.
But will gamers really be able to distinguish between a good and bad water shader?
Art assets though... I would love to see much higher quality, highly optimized content
At a more expensive price
vapid tundra
for a water focused game you'd get a guy or two to implement a proper system tho
can't expect an MP item to be the solution hehe
lone mountain
True. But how long would it take them
They could use this plugin as a start
@delicate dove how old are they though?
The problem with your packs now..
Old
delicate dove
impact is fairly new
delicate dove
people just dont understand how much you can do with it, you could basically make everything from megaman 11 out of the box
lone mountain
Not anymore. So you have competition
delicate dove
yea, thats all fine
lone mountain
Another thing I see personally from your packs @delicate dove is no real...what's the word. Cohesiveness
delicate dove
people generally only use it for placeholders
lone mountain
Like. The other day I was looking for a "cartoon vfx" pack
delicate dove
that I agree with, which isnt the deal with the impact pack
lone mountain
I ended up buying one of your packs. The vfx for a day thing
But that shit was random , which was the point
delicate dove
yea, its handy as just mashing things together, but nothing coherent
lone mountain
A lot of folks are not focusing very well in their packs
It's not just you
So yeah. I guess feature request here. Make focused packs :) especially stylized ones.
delicate dove
and especially vfx, the issue is niagara
delicate dove
sales have declined for most vfx people because everyone is like "we'll wait for nia"
lone mountain
How is it going to affect sales in MP
Will it be easy to distinguish between Cascade and Niagara VFX?
Will you be able to simply sell Modules?
delicate dove
you probably can, but thats useless for others selling vfx on mp hehe
but when I work for clients that might be very helpful
vapid tundra
i think with vfx.. it's also a balancing act
you can prolly make more money with contracts
delicate dove
yea, though as someone who is saving to make his own games, contracts suck
vapid tundra
aye
delicate dove
costs too much time
i wanted to do that around june, but mp sales collapsing fucked that up
so here I am taking up more client work, while i didnt want to do that
games I work for and their clients are cool, but i rather work on my own dreams instead of helping others with theirs
to the point where its frustrating
I do have some content prepared for when niagara is stable enough, but there is not much use making new packs for cascade imho
./rant
vapid tundra
perfectly understandable tho.
i dunno if cascade will be faded out that quickly tho
then again..peoples expectations...
delicate dove
i get shitloads of emails from previous buyers, as well as people on youtube, fb all asking if I can convert packs to niagara, or when I'll be making niagara packs
to get back to the coherence stuff @lone mountain actually going to follow a few month course from one of the better vfx people in the industry starting early next year, that should help with some of the problems I have with visual fidelity/readability and timing.
currently at a point where I am all but satisfied with my work hehe
lone mountain
That's good. It's very important to understand your own faults and constantly try to improve
(not directly at you)
delicate dove
yea, stagnation is our worst enemy
tired rune
So, I bought an asset 5 days ago because it was in the winter sale, and now it's for free. Even though I understand the marketing logic beyond this, it really sucks. Why put an item on a sale if you know it's going to be for free in a few days. It kinda "tricks" people into anticipating a purchase as I did, since I did not need the item but thought it was good so I didn't want to miss on the sale.
lucid osprey
^^
merry field
I guess the author makes more money that way
It's also quite possible that they didn't know that it was going to be free when they put it on sale
We had to submit the % discounts for the sale a fair while back
e.g about 6 weeks ago, and I doubt Epic had chosen the next rotation of free stuff at that point
tired rune
Let's say that this puts things in perspective.
You may say that it's nice of Epic to set items for free, and I can only agree. Still, if this were an actual shop I'd return it, something that cannot be done here. I doubt a shop manager would not respond to such a request.
I have two items that total the same price that I didn't purchase because of this. Pity.
merry field
You can refund items on the Marketplace?
vapid tundra
I still think the whole "set it free" thing will only end up with people becoming hesitant to buy assets.
It's a nice gesture on the surface, but in the long run i can see issues for the marketplace's health
tired rune
not really no you canโt. You have to have a very good reason, and the original owner may also deny or not respond to the refund request.
in Europe BTW you have to refund if the item is faulty, but define faulty.
For instance I have one item that claims to be 4.21 compliant but hasnโt been updates in years and warnings pop up all other the place if you open it in 4.21. is that faulty? for me, it is.
unborn dirge
Are the December free assets pack launched by Epic Games?
merry field
What do you mean by "launched"?
Marketplace creators can submit assets for inclusion, but Epic decide which ones are picked
azure tundra
i am in the same boat, pretty shitty of the creator to not put it in the comments it will be free 2 weeks later when the sale started.
wooden falcon
so there's some new stuff on the permanent collection: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/assets?tags=4906#
ahh cool, I see the december free stuff too...and those cliffs I've been wanting are there
keep in mind that the people whose stuff went free probably couldn't announce it would be free
tired rune
well don't put it for sale then.
wooden falcon
the call for the sale was awhile back, he probably got the invite recently
granted, he COULD have contacted Epic after finding out, to ask them to remove it from the sale
is it one of the permanent collection items, or one of the monthly free ones?
tired rune
fair enough
quaint cedar
@tired rune Usually the seller has no saying in the refund if the project has problems
So "not responding to it" will only make Epic refund it even faster
quaint cedar
The usualy process is:
- Customer notices an issue
- Customer notifies Seller about the issue
3.1. Seller fixes issue -> Everything's fine
3.2. Seller does not fix the issue -> 4. - Customer reports it to Epic
- Epic contacts Seller and gives them a chance to resolve the issue
6.1. Seller resolves Issue -> Everything's fine (kinda)
6.2. Seller doesn't resolve Issue -> Epic's gonna refund.
tired rune
see for instance https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/industrial-city -> many collision issues, though marked as 4.21 compatible
quaint cedar
You could report it
tired rune
anyway, it just feel a little burned to have just spent $65 on a thing that is now free, though I understand the logic of marketing I am still not appreciative of the overall process. NVM, I won't do the same mistake again
quaint cedar
It's not a mistake
It's totally fine to be annoyed by it, but this is totall normal
If you buy a game now on Steam for 50โฌ
tired rune
another one: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/ultra-dynamic-sky marked for 4.21 but with many warnings on boot
tired rune
it's a little different: it is if I spent 50 on a steam PROMOTION and then 5 days later it's free
quaint cedar
The whole "Free" thing is something you have to submit to.
We did that too and we haven't heard back yet. Not if we were accepted, neither if not.
In addition we are launching a sale right now.
tired rune
like: buy it now that is on promotion! oh, btw it's now free. ๐
quaint cedar
You suggest us to not do the sale, cause it could be that epic randomly reports that it goes free.
- the bigger sales from Epic and the free thing both needs us to submit weeks upfront
tired rune
anyway as I said before, really thankful of getting assets for free from Epic, I understand really the overall process and investment.
quaint cedar
We can't possibly know that it's free when the sale happens
tired rune
I'm just gonna be more cautious, that's all
take it as a feedback, no big deal.
my fault anyways.
quaint cedar
It's no ones "fault". It's how it us. You got the asset on sale before it went free.
What about the people who bought it without sale already?
They probably are more annoyed than you
tired rune
understood.
wooden falcon
well, if it's one of the 5 free for Dec, it's not free forever...so after Dec, new people will still have to pay for it
hmmm...the cel shader one on the permanent collection is just a lite version of the full one, interesting
tired rune
I already said that it's my fault. I bought an asset I didn't need because I saw the sale on it and I thought it looked great. Since I didn't need it, had I waited it would have been for free. Period, that's all. Won't make the same mistake again. Damn FOMA ๐
pliant forum
@wooden falcon The fantasy weapon thingy was also just a Sample version. The animation pack contained samples from 3~ packs as well
wooden falcon
and that might be a problem with this making some packs free regularly...there will be those now who don't buy anything at all
ok Erik, that sounds lame :/
pliant forum
Fully agree
wooden falcon
really feels like someone didn't want to go all in with the free thing, but still wanted the benefit
tired rune
guys we get stuff for free, let's enjoy. ๐
maybe a lite version, ok, it would be better to have fully featured assets
but still ๐
wooden falcon
don't know about anyone else, but the Fall Sale was the worst, for me at least
tired rune
I got good stuff
pliant forum
Not complaining, just saying that if it's about giving out samples of an asset pack they might as well just put it within the original asset pack
"Download a free sample!"
wooden falcon
well, my problem is it's obvious he created the lite version because they asked him to make the full one free, and he offered a lite version instead
tired rune
isn't that just for this month though
wooden falcon
the ones here are free forever: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/assets?tags=4906
pliant forum
No Roberto, it's the permanent collection stuff
wooden falcon
yah, putting what are essentially samples might not be construed as fair to other sellers
but at this point, I don't think I care much...sales have cratered a long time ago, and the big holiday sales were the only high point
now that seems to have vanished too :/
I think people expect huge discounts at this point...if you aren't putting it at >80%, they don't care
on a different note though, my free mat pack has been downloaded around 16,500 times now
vapid tundra
the steam syndrome
pliant forum
Yeah, I heard before I started selling assets that these sales made big splashes to your sales. Can't say I saw a difference
merry field
Aha, so there are 16,500 potential buyers for anything I put on the Marketplace
interesting
hasty nexus
you can't take those numbers. free? yeah, people will get it. Asking money for your work? then you'll have a problem. marketplace is full of people that rather get it somewhere for free, joining "teams" to grab assets and leave the very next day, or prefer to watch a youtube tutorial from 2014 and easy get that to work. depends what you're selling as well. if you`re an artist(3d,vfx etc), you have bigger chances to get good sales. otherwise, neah... do something else. or do it just for you, no expectations. People want cheap, regular updates, fixes and support for 5 dollars. If you don't provide... well, you all know...
and also people tend to forget than when they purchase any code asset they get the source code as well, which is more valuable than a packed product. And when you're evaluating your product to a price you think it's fair for you, people are raising eyebrows and whining about price. Take iKinema with their plugin, it's 99 for indie devs, packed, no access to source. You want the source? terms change, you're supposed to be a big studio to afford that.
merry field
Well aware that I'll never sell 16,500, I wasn't being entirely serious
But that does mean that there's probably a market for, say, 1/10th of that
delicate dove
more like 1/100th or less
merry field
165 people who might buy anything?
delicate dove
depending what you sell, over the course of the year.
sometimes more, sometimes less
hasty nexus
marketplace is only good if you're expecting some exposure. but that comes with a huge disadvantage. you're getting exposed with the wrong type of customers. Customers that just look at products but don't buy.
obviously, there are people that are doing good revenue out of marketplace. but depends what they're selling as i said 3d props etc will always sell. you can't learn talent from youtube
lone mountain
Exposure is definitely something to consider here
Let's talk about the water plugin again
With all that freaking attention
He's bound to get either a) picked up by a big company or b) get more contracts for various jobs
hasty nexus
i can tell you exactly the difference between asking money or not. I have two plugin, MultiTask which is free, downloaded thousands of times over 3 months, 20 5 stars, some nice feedback, whatever. That plugin consists in few lines of code and some blueprint nodes that consists the showcase. On the other hand i have another plugin, RME, which actually does something but it costs money. obviously is been used by people in studios or indies, people are sending feedback etc but it only has 10 almost 5 stars. and the sales are no where to thousands or even thousand.
so if you want to be successful as a developer, free is the key
delicate dove
if I didnt have to care about money, id make everything free
sadly, I have to care about that crap
hasty nexus
yeah, but on the side you have to eat, feed a baby or whatever ๐
merry field
With all the doom and gloom you hear about releasing an indie game, I just worry that one of those will be even less profitable than selling a few random things on the Marketplace (especially in terms of time spent)
hasty nexus
for sure, check out steam and see how many flops are there. 0 sales and such.
0 comments, 0 reviews, 0 sales... that's a funeral ๐
merry field
I don't want to do that, it would be too depressing
delicate dove
make indie game > sell on steam
make mp packs from indie game content > prolly earn more than selling on steam :p
heck, some of the plugins people write for their games.. they'd sell quite nice on the mp i think
hasty nexus
this is what i'm doing
pliant forum
^ Isn't that how all the plugins start? ๐
merry field
Well, the one thing I put on the Marketplace so far came about like that, make a thing for my game, turn it into product
Right now I have a bunch of other things that people would probably be interested in buying, but they're all so tied together that it's not really feasible to pull them out into products
Working ladders, for one thing, man those things were a huge pain to get working
But I'm sure there are people who'd pay to not have this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q9QRJXdSE8
dense kite
just wondering y'all said they make certain assets free every month?
merry field
Yes, they are nor making a small set of assets free each month, for that month
dense kite
Is there a way I can see this because when I go to Free all I see are the paragon assets? And a few others, not sure which of those are made free
ah I see a bunch others but is it possible to just see the new free ones?
merry field
Free forever: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/assets?tags=4906
Free for the month: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/assets?tags=4910
snow mirage
can anyone recommend a highly optimized foliage/grass pack? The few I've tried are poorly optimized and kill my fps
vapid tundra
Frankly, i doubt you will find highly optimized stuff on the marketplace.
Don't get me wrong tho ...There are exceptions, but not few of the assets i took a look at were just lazy, rushed and unoptimized.
vapid tundra
@delicate dove @modern perch I contacted the guy UIWS (water thingy) he said he's about to pack a demo .exe - just needs a few fixes-
unborn basalt
@vapid tundra It is hard to understand why people are so interested the UIWS when there is an alternative package with more features (buoyancy, optimized for vr, better underwater, flow maps, better customization) at a much lower price.
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/aquatic-surface
I think that should learn more about marketing and increase the price ๐
vapid tundra
@unborn basalt Interesting. I wasn't aware of this asset pack. I might check it out, if there's an demo available.
unborn basalt
@vapid tundra Used in my megajam game https://biszop.itch.io/glitchphobia you will see the water upside down so its maybe not the best scenario to test, if you need demo map I could prepare it for you now.
vapid tundra
@unborn basalt I'll try the game. Not feeling comfortable with you investing your time to prep a demo just for me tbh. But thanks for the offer!
unborn basalt
@vapid tundra It's not a problem, anyway I will put this demo to the package description. https://www.dropbox.com/s/s88l8746emy1df6/AquaticSurface_1_2_Demo.rar?dl=0
vapid tundra
ty! Will try the demo! @unborn basalt
topaz lynx
is here anyone who like to buy my 3D Coat Professional Seat ? I use only Blender so i would give it cheap away
summer venture
is everything on the marketplace fair game for commerical use?
merry field
Yes, everything on there has to be under the Unreal Marketplace licence
Check under the Usage Right sections
summer venture
@merry field awesome, thanks!
lone mountain
so, first off, new launcher is kinda meh
But, w/e for now. Would be nice if I could read descriptions properly on assets
But
Is very telling
robust vector
I don't think there has ever been a size/aspect ratio combination that it actually handles completely correctly
last mango
Yeah new Launcher sucks ass, its so confusing now, the previous design was much easier to navigate
robust vector
Style over function
Anyone know of an animation pack that has an animation of opening a door via turning a door knob? I have a couple of packs that have the character just pushing the door open, but I need an animation using the knob.
hasty nexus
in my area is 385 EURO not dollars! you'd be thinking that there would be buoyancy at this price.
it's interesting but for that price range, surely seems incomplete.
and for that price range should be compatible with more platforms, out of the box, no testing no trying no anything, out of the box
hallow wagon
Yeah
quaint cedar
That, or all other MP items are just way too cheap :P
hasty nexus
who knows...
last mango
Considering the arbitrary quality bar that the review staff have created im not surprised at the inconsistency.
robust vector
@ebon leaf Thanks.
lone mountain
@idle arch @shadow inlet Is there a way to not see Fornite stuff in Epic Launcher?
(with new launcher)
Or better yet, allow it to start in Unreal Engine instead of Home
I see "Hide Game Library` , so I know there could be an option
Nevermind. Crisis averted. That actually kills the Home as well.
It's just a shame we can't have both (but have it stick to UE4 if we wanted)
oak fiber
So after 3 years of a horrible shit mess in the first place the new launcher is a horrible shit mess. congrats
idle arch
frowns
lol that didn't work out well
@lone mountain Not that I know of, but that is good feedback. I'll ask
@oak fiber Can you elaborate more on what you mean by shit mess?
You're welcome to DM me any feedback or suggestions you have for improvement.
modern perch
I think the big problem with the update is that it doesn't seem to have tangibly improved anything?
it's just plain slower
wooden falcon
I hate when companies change UI's just for the sake of it
modern perch
the two library tabs is annoying as well
I also have a hunch that the DPI scaling on it may now be broken, but don't have my ultra-high dpi display to check
modern perch
I'll have to try it when I'm home on Sunday
idle arch
Thanks for finding that, Victor.
modern perch
UE4's UI is totally broken for me on that machine and has been since 4.19
idle arch
The editor itself?
modern perch
anything that uses a dpi scaling conversion has been busted since the introduction of "high dpi scaling" support
so editor is useable, but gameplay elements are unworkable
some editor elements are broken though, can't recall which off the top of my head - IIRC the widget reflector is one of them
oak fiber
Tim Slager: You're welcome to DM me any feedback or suggestions you have for improvement.
for 3 years it goes into a void -- you guys dont need to iterate and do better; I get it. Fortnite money is real.
gaunt flicker
Yo I got two tickets on the 'wtf is this new launcher' train
imma hop off and leave my luggage on board
delicate dove
@modern perch cascade has been a mess since they added the dpi-scaling, so bad that Ive thrown my keyboard trough the living room once :p
delicate dove
have to agree with the "dont update for sake of updating" but update to add new features, make it faster, and more readable.
At the very least add a way to sort/catagorize vault packs/projects.
@vapid tundra luckily not that bad hehe
though I have done that with my xbox360 once :p
vapid tundra
๐ hehe
delicate dove
bit offtopic, but bro's acc got suspended, and it locked us out of the hdd (even with my acc) so all savegames where gone, and turned the darn thing in a glorified paperweight
wooden falcon
ouch ๐ฆ
merry field
So... new launcher
Has the same problem that the old launcher had, but now much worse
That I have this huge launcher for tons of things I don't care about, when I just want Unreal Engine
Really seems like there should just be a separate launcher for Unreal Engine
My first reaction was to click on Library and go "huh? Why is my library empty?"
Heh, the store has a page for Shadow Complex and does not, at any point, explain what it actually is
lone mountain
@merry field go to settings
kill off game library
then you have "friends" and "unreal"
But, I don't have friends
So, I want a way to kill that screen as well
๐
merry field
Yeah, I looked at that setting
but then it just felt like the whole sidebar was useless
To be fair, I can understand why they are doing this
I'm hoping it's a prelude to that rumoured Epic storefront
But I think it has a long way to go compared to Steam still
robust vector
No matter how broken the launcher was, my standards are low enough I would settle for something even more busted as long as it was totally separate from Fortnite.
+1 For "I have no friends and hence no reason to have that tab"
Library tab makes me think UE4 library, but its another Fortnite thing
Store tab is also Fortnite
Home tab is just a scrolling list of Fortnite ads
merry field
Yeah, the launcher is a bit weird if you have zero interest in Fortnite
robust vector
Go ahead and add me to the "shit mess" band-wagon
merry field
But to be fair, the Unreal Engine tab seems mostly unchanged
apart from the tabs being moved to the top
robust vector
Its really slow loading now
idle arch
@lone mountain I am your friend.
merry field
Seems kind of SLOOOW though
idle arch
@robust vector I am your friend
You can't say you don't have friends! I am everyone's friend!
merry field
I guess it's because all the content is online
The [Unreal Engine] Library tab still loads really fast
idle arch
You have a ton of friends ๐
lone mountain
The Friend Request Spam is real
robust vector
I just don't see the point in having Fortnite rammed down our throats at every opportunity.
Is there really that much overlap between UE4 users and Fortnite?
merry field
I'd imagine it's because the launchers for both use a lot of the same functionality
downloading and updating content, etc.
lone mountain
And didn't plan for all the headaches that it would cause us
merry field
and it would be a pain to maintain two launchers
lone mountain
Yup
gaunt flicker
there has been a number of people picking up the engine just because its in the same box as fortnite
so that is neat
lone mountain
So they are taking the path of least resistant
One launcher for all
That's true also @gaunt flicker
If it hadn't fucked with my workflow countless times before..I'd be all for it
But it has, COUNTLESS times...
gaunt flicker
for the most part I run a launcherless workflow
robust vector
I mean, I see plenty of posts in the UE4 forums that go "How do I get boogie down?" but do these people actually do anything with the engine?
merry field
I have my .uproject pinned to my start menu, I almost never open the launcher
gaunt flicker
the engine will attempt to load the launcher for you though if the launcher isn't running
idle arch
We try to purge Fortnite posts when we see them, but they do come up a lot.
merry field
Nope, mine doesn't launch the launcher any more
I can't remember what, if anything, I changed to make it stop opening the launcher, but it doesn't open it
north stirrup
Yeah who's using the launcher anyways ๐
idle arch
@oak fiber The sins of the father - so to speak. ๐ Send me feedback, I'll make sure it gets to where it needs to go.
oak fiber
Well, I think you are being just as obtuse as the father
everyone here is telling you what is wrong
just scroll up and start implementing all the things we've asked for since day 1
idle arch
Well, I don't really think I am being obtuse. I can only take feedback and hand it to the teams that make the changes.
And then follow up on things.
Feedback is super important, it is what drives things forward. Suggestions are always welcome but not all suggestions are good suggestions, or an easy implementation.
I would much prefer to get a thousand pounds of critical feedback with tangible, actionable items attached, then even a single praise on something.
To very much that point, I am literally writing down all of this launcher feedback discussed here.
lunar fractal
I appreciate your positive attitude @idle arch !
idle arch
I appreciate your positive vibes @lunar fractal.
I am sorry if I am not doing a better job of showing you all that we are literally on the same team. We want the same things, we have the same over all objectives.
gaunt flicker
I've always believed community staff is on our side
But the rest of the chain is spooky
idle arch
Well, maybe not your side, Allar.
I have standards.
But, I can tell you, my wife clearly as MUCH lower standards.
delicate dove
@idle arch while I have you here, could you perhaps discuss with the marketplace team about adding "switch support" as one of the options of platforms a pack supports, and preferable seperate options for each mobile/shading model. if something doesnt work on ES2 its declined if it states mobile support, but with previous, current, and future gen phones supporting ES_3+/ES4, etc its kind of a weird thing.
idle arch
I feel like I asked about this in the past, but I will follow up.
delicate dove
yea, ive also asked/requested it for quite a while now, its nothing that should be changed right away, but it would be nice to have, especially now that switch is a viable platform to release on, and with mobile phones getting more powerful every iteration
idle arch
If it has been requested but not implemented - it may be something in the pipeline
But I'll follow up. ๐
delicate dove
appreciated ๐
fleet garnet
Houston it seems like we have a problem with the launcher
gaunt flicker
quaint cedar
@idle arch Also, any news on free plugins that aren't up to date?
GameSparks is still sitting there on 4.18
zealous ibex
Is it even worse? I remember it regularly taking up like 30%...but that's insane @fleet garnet ๐ฒ
wooden falcon
lol https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/fat-zombies ... Well if you just laid off the brains a little, maybe you wouldn't be so fat
idle arch
@delicate dove Just an update - Switch request is already on the plate. Standby for it. IDK when tho
@quaint cedar I'll check
delicate dove
thats all I need to know, thanks ๐
ebon leaf
heeeey any Rock and ship Creator here?
i bought the map but got big isues
nought the thingy
bought
last mango
Contact the author by email.
ebon leaf
actually i dont know if he can help me xD i just want to make the ship sail on the water xD
vapid tundra
#ue4-general or #blueprint or #cpp
ebon leaf
thanks oke
fleet garnet
@zealous ibex it definitely seems worse, it only does that if I open it, if it just sits in the system tray it works fine
lilac heath
@fleet garnet im not seeing the same issue with the launcher, but will keep an eye, do you have a bug logged about it, if so i will add to it if the issue occurs
fleet garnet
I don't have it logged for now, it doesn't happen always so I can't really provide any useful info or steps to break it
lilac heath
Ok cool
amber ice
Okay the marketplace is bugged out. Trying to view a picture completely crashes it?! Anyone else get that error?
rustic belfry
Hey everyone, I just saw this in the MP - https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/character-interaction-add-on-vol
Are we now allowed to sell addons to our current products?
delicate dove
we could always do that, or at least, last few years. but there are restrictions I think.
rustic belfry
I thought we couldnt sell anything with dependencies before (maybe Im not remembering right?)
Hmm, interesting
delicate dove
would go trough the same process as a normal pack, and would need to add more value to the pack.
if you have a signed agreement with another seller, could even make add-ons for their packs
rustic belfry
Wow, didnt know that. Thanks Luos!
delicate dove
if you want more info, better email the mp team with questions. I only know the basics because at one point I wanted to do some vfx for the particle extension kit.
hasty nexus
wait what? epic games store is coming? and it will be a market for unity games as well? what?! =)) that's so cool, apart from the fact that all ue4 games will look the same with same 3d props from marketplace =))) but that's insane. i don't know if it would matter in games markets but definitely it's something...
modern perch
most UE4 games don't use many marketplace assets in their final release :p
hasty nexus
yeah right, all unreal engine games can be identified by checking the in-game items. from pubg to whatever you want ๐
it's not a bad thing but it's a fact :D:D:D
flint canopy
Epic has done such a nice job at supporting developers, the store's announcement on the heels of Steam fucking everyone over is wonderful news.
grizzled thunder
Bit of a shake up alright, let's hope we don't drown in games like Steam seems to have been recently
flint canopy
Steam has been awful.
A curated store is perfect.
1700 games released on Steam or thereabouts per year, they haven't made any way to stand out AND they're taking a 30% revenue cut which hurts.
grizzled thunder
Unreal are going to need a big curation team
grizzled thunder
More like a week
modern perch
there were something like 8000 games in 2017 and there'll be even more this year
vapid tundra
21 games per day on average
wooden falcon
if Epic does their store like they've done the Marketplace...
wooden falcon
but yah, screw Steam
I usually only buy games on GoG.com, lately
hmm
why is my last comment in red? ๐
lucid osprey
all your money doesnt protect you from bad internet.
wooden falcon
well, I was referring to the news last month that some venture group had invested in Epic...I wish I had a billion :/
or a million...anyone got a million they could give me? ๐
modern perch
if a comment is in red it means Discord failed to send
wooden falcon
ahhhh
then that comment would make no sense to anyone
lol
I said "I guess this is where that billion dollar investment is going"
why the hell would it have not sent?
modern perch
connection issues, normally
lucid osprey
money cant buy you live
merry field
Gog also take a 30% cut
delicate dove
small reminder, marketplace is not the channel for the upcoming store. :p
north stirrup
rhoo
robust vector
Money cant buy you live, but you will definitely die soon if don't have enough of it.
vapid tundra
@delicate dove @modern perch he just released a demo (in case you haven't already seen it) https://egray.io/uiws/demo/
modern perch
oh excellent, thanks
nocturne scaffold
So i have been using an add in for awhile now. WeatherTool. However after using it for a few months we are noticing our issues are ALL coming from it. 10-15FPS drop, cant use below high shadows or the particles for rain and snow don't fall and the ground turns blue, on larger maps distant mountains all turn blue.
That being said i took a look at his page and its got tons of complaints all over like mine, so its not me. How do we get unreal to recognize this issue. I tried to request refund once but they practically told me to find the issue in his code and take a picture. Well if i knew the damn issues i wouldn't have a problem would i!? lol
so how can i approach this?
last mango
Contact Epic, say that the Author isnt addressing direct and obvious issues.
nocturne scaffold
Yeah but they want me to site the code causing the issues.
or on something more obvious as such they wouldnt ask for that?
last mango
Is that Epic or the Author?
Go to Epic and plead your case to them since the Author isnt being helpful.
The chances of you getting a refund would be slim anyway since the product sounds like it works as advertised.
nocturne scaffold
Epic is saying that to me.
it was another tool that had a few issues but that was back before i really knew how to BP. lol
and well it does work but just not on low shadows.
i have no idea why shadows being on low could actually cause these issues.
last mango
Yeah righto well in that case like i said, if its working as advertised then you have no ground to walk on unfortunately.
covert furnace
The refund policy is a bit watery to be honest. I keep finding blueprints/plugins that should probably have failed Epic's curation process and yet there's no opportunity for refund because it 'works'. If you find something the curators missed, you should be entitled to a refund because that is the standard for quality outlined in the submission guidelines and you are not receiving that.
hasty nexus
@nocturne scaffold if you check other people's comments, they're addressing some fixes to blue mountains and such. And you can't ask for refunds after 30 days from purchase.
delicate dove
nocturne scaffold
@hasty nexus yeah those comments are me giving the fixes. haha. The issue is we just keep finding more issues.
hasty nexus
well, still, you have 30 days to ask for refund, afterwards.. i believe only if the publisher want it to...
robust vector
@covert furnace There is no standard of quality outlined in the guidelines anymore
modern perch
no standard of quality at all?
robust vector
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waxen ibex
Hi guys, is there any news about marketplace holiday sale? I've no mails from Epic
lunar fractal
Since we just had the fall sale, I assume there is not holiday sale ๐
waxen ibex
ammm %)
lunar fractal
@waxen ibex You can always have your own sale of course ๐
waxen ibex
Sure, thanks for idea)
merry field
Was thinking that as well
And you'll probably get MORE visibility
because you'll be one of only a few things on sale
as opposed to lost in a huge sale
waxen ibex
But there is will no promotions from Epic, and customers are tired from the last sale
modern perch
huh, marketplace split is now 88/12 retroactively
time to prepare for horrendous tax paperwork
delicate dove
have been since they announced the split
robust vector
It's been that way for about 9 months now
static violet
Hello guys do some one knows a Dedicated server or a p2p Networking project on the marketplace?
modern perch
yes, but what should it do?
quaint cedar
Based on your description, there is not such thing @static violet
UE4 doesn't have P2P and DedicatedServers are simply build via the Engine Source.
static violet
@quaint cedar Thanks, so basically to build the dedicated servers for my own game i need to do it from 0 right?
modern perch
You don't need to do anything at all
Except compile
Have you tried looking at.the documentation?
ebon leaf
oke gone check that
static violet
@modern perch Thanks for the reply man, yeah i saw that, but honestly i didn't understand EVERYTHING, so i was asking for some Easy way to run a dedicated server, i will look again to see if i'm just dumb ahahah
fervent berry
Hello world!
Is there any chance a Spawn Waves Manager plugin could be a useful thing for you?
robust vector
Basically something that let you set up a list of what enemy classes to spawn, and list of points they can spawn from?
Sounds like the kinda thing that usually sells well, as long as the price is reasonable. @fervent berry
fervent berry
@robust vector thank you! ๐
merry field
I'd say generic, realistic objects that are useful for everyone
You just need to find ones that haven't been done yet
For example, an AK47 only fits in games involving guns set in the modern era
Whereas an apple fits in any setting or genre
oak fiber
And I thought you weren't allowed to make designs that are based on real world IP or are guns literally Open Season again?
lucid osprey
that is right
it only works for existing guns tho
i think it hit mostly army stuff directly
vapid tundra
you can't just make a "noname" variation of lets say an Weapon Design.
the design is protected on its own
same is true for the Coca Cola Bottle afaik
vapid tundra
lack of knowledge/care on the QA side of things? ๐ค
merry field
Every game should have apples in it
But what I meant was that things like food fit in any era
An apple, a loaf of bread and a hunk of cheese will fit as well in Roman times, fantasy settings, modern, sci-fi, or alternate realities
I'm just giving vague advice here though, I haven't sold models on the Marketplace so I don't know what actually sells the best
ebon leaf
can anyone say me the steps to post my project or material in the store?
robust vector
@idle arch Make sure somebody at Epic knows that Tencent Cloud Computing (Beijing) Co. Ltd. are trying to hack our accounts
When you get the chance
Looks like they tried to get into my publisher account. Other people say they attempted to hack their Fortnite accounts.
idle arch
Thanks for the report, Blackfang.
lunar fractal
@ebon leaf These are the guidelines to get you started: https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/marketplace-guidelines
merry field
@ebon leaf Check the pinned messages in this channel, there's a guide that I wrote linked there
Those official guidelines are also useful, you should definitely check them out, but they are in more of an FAQ form rather than as a step-by-step guide
north stirrup
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ definitely check his tutorial ๐
delicate dove
lucid osprey
Some people are baold ๐
north stirrup
$990, that's quite cheap 
merry field
Good ideas are so rare that it's sure to be snapped up quickly
candid rivet
i have a 100 unfinished projects, i'm gonna be rich
lone mountain
@delicate dove You know
That's actually not a bad business to get into
If someone could do it properly that is
Need quite a bit of legal resources to make it work
delicate dove
second time in a month that ive seen someone do that
robust vector
@idle arch I'm still getting 2fa messages about Tencent Cloud Computing (Beijing) trying to brute force into my account. Can you get somebody at Epic to blacklist their IP addresses?
I would change my password, but apparently I am not allowed to do so.
"too many resubmissions have been received, please try again later"
I assume this means they have been trying to change my password as well.
I suppose this is another case for why UE4 accounts and Fortnite stuff should be separate.
mortal sluice
I still cant believe we share accounts with fortnite kids
Getting fortnite currency spam ever since mails were leaked
Really really noobish business behaviour
Wish they would rejoice
north stirrup
Never received any of those
modern perch
lots of people have, however
amber ice
@delicate dove just read that and all I can say Is wow
drowsy hawk
Adding content to the MP.. how can you sell your content elsewhere at the same time?
?Just leave an Email for whoever's interested and they'd pay via paypal or so? (and this way you avoid 22% country tax & epic 12% tax) which gives you the opportunity to drop content prices.. (20% off, if they buy it directly from you via paypal)
So it's obviously a must. But can it be done? Just leave an email and who ever is interested contacts you?
Is that allowed? Even so.. they'd have to pay first, and then you can send them a download link with the content? And they're supposed to trust you? (i guess trust would not be the issue in my case)
I just don't want to be forced to pay country taxes. As if i make the content together with'em..
Just wanted to show you where i'm coming from to why i'm looking for an additional way of selling content. As i'd imagine we're all on the same page here.
Honestly now with the 12% tax instead of 30%.. i don't mind paying epic (after all.. they feature your content&protect them from piracy).. but they require you to pay taxes to your country as well.. which means that you get 0.6864*what you make (31.36% tax total(1K stolen from you for every 3K you make :/)).. So i cant have that as the main way to sell content. I feel like so many ppl feel the same way, which is why they choose not to add some of their content on the MP.. So it was definitely the right move for epic to drop the 30% tax. (and perhaps it might also result into more high-quality content hopefully)
TL:TR Anyway what i'm basically asking here is.. does epic allow adding your email somewhere on the preview video ? And perhaps even let you recommend ppl to buy it directly from you !?
wooden falcon
I don't think you can solicit other marketplaces via the MP, but you are free to sell other places
I don't think Epic would like you adding a link to your pack page that says "Buy it here instead!". But if you put your website in your profile, that could have a link on it.
As for the video thing...hmm...I dunno about that one
maybe if it had a link in it that said "Also available from here!"
but I'm pretty sure any links directly on your pack page would get removed
drowsy hawk
well technically it wouldn't be on the MP but on the Youtube video's description or so.. which would be a msg saying something like "If you're thinking of buying, please go ahead and contact me via email first!"
delicate dove
even if you get paid from other sources, you'd need to pay taxes
unless you are from some country with extremely poor management
drowsy hawk
@delicate dove .. what do you mean? I'm not experienced here.. You mean that if someone were to put money on my paypal account, i'd lose some of it to taxes?
wooden falcon
he means that your county of origin will want their cut
delicate dove
you need to tell your chamber of taxes or whatever its called that you made money, even if its put on paypal
a lot of countries now even have proper rules on cryptocurrency
wooden falcon
in the US, Epic sends the IRS a tax form for you (if you made more than $500 I believe)...not sure about for other countries...so in the US, at least, they know exactly how much you owe
delicate dove
i find it funny that you think that if you are paid trough paypal you dont have to pay taxes hehe.
eventually they'll find out, and you could get a massive fine or worse (depending on country again)
wooden falcon
yah, it's not worth it
depending on how much you make a year, you might get most of it back anyways
drowsy hawk
well my plan was for the people purchasing to pay slightly different prices so that it isn't all the same value.. and it would only happen however often i felt it was safe.. & would make some kind of excuse i guess, in case i got caught or sth.
wooden falcon
I'd imagine discussing illegal activities is frowned upon here
I can see Luos frowning severly already ๐
delicate dove
you can still add your content elsewhere, but regardless how or where you sell it, you'll need to pay taxes.
delicate dove
i'd suggest talking to an accountant about it
and about that, wherever you want, just google "gamedev marketplace" or whatever
mortal sluice
I got a headache by reading this, what an unbelievable amount of patience luos must have
delicate dove
well.. I dont, but currently taking a bleepload of sedatives because of a severe insomnia.
and, i havent had a lot of patience, and luckily I have friends who point it out to me whenever I push it too far, which has helped quite a bit.
could say I ave less ducks to give.
and I dont think Black meant it badly hehe.
mortal sluice
4-5 hrs is plenty!
upbeat cradle
well then, looking at the backlog i saw something i didnt think to ever see here..
mortal sluice
You mean ppl lacking the concept of taxes and resulting prison sentences?
Oh never underestimate people
wraith sinew
Noted Pro is now available on the marketplace.
Noted pro allows developers to post advanced notes in editor, assign them to team members, categorize them with icons, set their priority levels, completed statues, and leave detailed messages or reminders. All the while allowing the developers to sort and jump to notes both easily and dynamically by the criteria listed above.
mortal sluice
Nice notes, i would love to use such a thing in bps instead of these bulky encapsulation comments
quaint cedar
@mortal sluice There is a plugin comming iirc for BP comment nodes
Making them a lot easier to handle
e.g. they resize etc.
That's actually a free plugin
quaint cedar
@fading swallow Question: If used as an Engine Plugin, would this cause any issues for other people on the team that don't have the plugin setup?
Or would they just see the default comment boxes?
fading swallow
@quaint cedar The class I change is the widget (the visual / interactive side of the comment box). I don't save any extra data to the BP so there shouldn't be any issues for people who don't have the plugin. They would just see the default comment box.
quaint cedar
Awesome, thanks!
river rover
I'm looking for some Debug materials because I am Very Badโข at material programming and I want my debug levels to have consistent UV texture sizes.
sullen lion
Isn't that what supergrid is for?
inner temple
You have 20 assets in your cart, please complete the purchase first.๏ผ50 are not enough, 20 are joking?
oak fiber
Super grid won't solve Texel density
river rover
Good point @sullen lion , SuperGrid does look like what I'm looking for. I can't afford that though so probably what I'll end up having to do is just use plain flat base colors rather than texturing... or I'll just have to get good at material programming!
vapid tundra
also you could just keep some basics in mind when creating your textures to have a consitancy in your textures
e.g 1024px per meter
gusty root
Does anyone know when the store offers come out?
gusty root
the Christmas offers hehe
brave kettle
Hey guys. I bought a mega bundle of stylized textures off the marketplace to play around with in between semesters. Any pointers on how I would update them so I could use them in 4.21. Currently they are listed for 4.20
merry field
You can still add them to the project
When you click "Add to project", there's a tickbox "Show all projects"
that will allow you to add it to 4.21 projects
(it will warn you that it may not be compatible)
brave kettle
awesome. Thank you very much. I was looking at the patch notes a little. Sometimes I don't get why it wouldn't just accept it right away. Like what changed to warrant texture / material updates idk
merry field
The author needs to tag the product as being compatible
even if nothing has changed to make it incompatible
ebon leaf
any mmo starter kits ? @_@
quaint cedar
There might be, but I still believe that an MMO shouldn't need a starter kit.
It needs a bigger team that knows what to do and that sticks with the project for multiple years.
And these teams should code their stuff from ground up.
modern perch
we've had this discussion extensively in one of the other channels xD
delicate dove
wooden falcon
omg, hahahaha
that guy must be on this pack https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/mushrooms-mega-pack
merry field
That's.... unusual
hallow wagon
There should be a sale soon right?
merry field
Not sure if they're doing one this December
merry field
We would have been notified / asked what we want to discount if they were
delicate dove
yup
dark portal
Hi,Anyone know some Great packs that coulde be with (Character interaction pack)...
merry field
Can't quite understand the question, can you rephrase?
dark portal
@merry field I need Some Packs That Can Be Used With Character Interaction pack (https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/character-interaction)
Sorry For My Bad english
delicate dove
hehe
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/anime-girls-avatars ue4 visual novels confirmed
delicate dove
how did i miss all that hehe
split iron
visual novels feel a tad out of place on ue4
wooden falcon
wait until Epic makes one that sells 1 billion
then it'll be like "Patch notes on 4.23: boob shader enhancement"
wait a sec, what version are we even on now
lol
wooden falcon
how've sales been, cedric?
wooden falcon
other than my free pack, sales haven't been great for me ๐