I love it because it's great fun with a friend. Duo mode with the right friend is amazing af. Squad mode can go die in a fire though ๐
#fab
fleet garnet
yeah same, try FPP mode, it is super fun, no corner peaking (that is kinda cheating to me)
This is getting off topic
ebon leaf
Oh I only play FPP ๐ third person can go to hell lol
er I mean... marketplace assets are cool ๐
fleet garnet
lol
switched to fpp a week ago, it took me a while to get over dizziness from their shaky camera
ebon leaf
haha
fleet garnet
did you win any rounds?
me and my friend won one and it probably won't happen again lol
pseudo sundial
Back on MP talk, I'm glad that UnrealAssets twitter exists, going through 9+ pages of new content to see what is actually new is rough
ebon leaf
@fleet garnet Nah. Second place like 10 times. Only been playing for a week though lol
@pseudo sundial yeah... I think they said they are working on that
but... its ludicrous
fleet garnet
we better get on topic before a mod kicks our a** from here hehe
who created that twitter account, does anyone know
ebon leaf
player unknown 
rotund schooner
PU the Mysterio
sullen lion
Player Unknown's Marketplace Listener
fleet garnet
ignore me
rotund schooner
Blue Man the Pubg dev
fleet garnet
custom browser!?
rotund schooner
Content Browser
leaden root
This new release date sorting is so stupid, the new content tab is pretty much useless now
Thank god for that twitter bot
zealous kelp
only the recent editions under home page seems to be in order now, pretty annoying about the new content order
wooden falcon
yah, they're sorting by submission date, which is dumb...probably a mistake
my pack has already fallen off the New Content...started off on like, page 5, never had a New tag :/
this one came out either thursday or friday: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/sewerage
it's dead last on the New Content section
robust vector
That pack looks fantastic and I would never have found it
wooden falcon
@robust vector follow UnrealAssets on twitter
they automatically post when a new pack is released on the MP
robust vector
I don't use twitter
rare lynx
The new content sorting bug is a serious issue and needs to be fixed ASAP. This is hurting not only opening sales, but exposure for new products. Without an extensive filtering system it's even worse, as people aren't going to waste time going through pages of content just to see if something new is on page 11 today.
robust vector
I know I won't. Got to page 3 and gave up.
zealous kelp
as a buyer it makes me annoyed trying to see whats new, if I was a seller I would be really not happy
silver moat
@SE_JonF#2680 Working as intended. :D
@SE_JonF#2680
@SE_JonF#2680
@SE_JonF#2680
Discord ...
wooden falcon
lol
zealous ibex
Woohoo! My first plugin under the new system got approved ๐ค
Now.....I have to write the docs though ๐
Anyone here have any tips on creating docs for 9-10 products without going absolutely insane?
wooden falcon
grats!
lone mountain
@zealous ibex Which plugin?
robust vector
I think I've seen something on the forums for auto generating a document based on the comments in your header files
robust vector
Can you not edit a product after submitting to marketplace but before approval?
I forgot to enter the vertices count in the technical details
๐ฆ
Well, at least my featured image is nice and sassy and 100% guaranteed to have the text cut off.
zealous ibex
RIP :(
zealous ibex
@lone mountain one I haven't even announced yet lol, I'm waiting for the MP To become slightly more stable before releasing
wooden falcon
yah @robust vector , you can edit all of that from the submission portal
you can even change your price on your own now
it's amazing how little exposure you have on gumroad, even with their Discover (which takes an extra 10% off your sale)
their dashboard is pretty nice though, and tells you how many page views you have
robust vector
all the fields are locked
wooden falcon
oh wait...yah...can't change until it's published I think
but as soon as you publish, you can change it
zealous ibex
It's locked while on review for sure
robust vector
Well, hopefully they fix that
zealous ibex
Want a free copy of ConfigBP (https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/configbp)? Giving the first person to RT & reply a free copy, see: https://twitter.com/HowToCompute123/status/912352119566557186
Twitter
lone mountain
Anyone here have a marketplace pack that went live in the last two weeks?
Maybe even a month.
solemn oracle
What do you guys think about this https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/procedural-landscape-ecosystem?
I got it and it works really well without any lag
pseudo sundial
how does it look with the ue4 mannequin in your level? in the demo the author posted, the trees and rocks look small when compared to the mannequin
solemn oracle
just wanting to hear opinions on it
solemn oracle
thats why im asking
lone mountain
What
zealous ibex
I'm holding off releasing myself, there's a few issues where they're sorted by submissiondate & there have been an absolute ton of releases, ruining potential new releases section exposure ๐ค.
solemn oracle
generation is easy
lone mountain
@solemn oracle Is it easy?
zealous ibex
It looked really interesting
solemn oracle
to set up
zealous ibex
It's really expensive, so haven't bought it...but judging by the # of reviews its hugely popular
And that guy must have made a killing ๐
lone mountain
Is there a hashtag for UnrealMarketplace?
solemn oracle
yup
zealous ibex
But there's an (unofficial) twitter account, and I believe a hashtag too
lone mountain
Yeah, but nothing that people follow?
solemn oracle
honestly, LAM is super laggy
this is super smooth
and almost no performance drop
zealous ibex
https://twitter.com/UEMarketplace has ~300 followers ๐ค
Twitter
That's not a hashtag though
solemn oracle
should I buy a charcter creator(my game is a online survival) or make my own?
pseudo sundial
@solemn oracle so the scaling isn't off when compared to the UE4 mannequin on the Procedure Landscape Ecosystem?
solemn oracle
im not good with c++, so is getting a marketplace one a good idea?
@pseudo sundial not at all
pseudo sundial
hmm cool, the demo made it look weird
solemn oracle
the scaling was fine for me
zealous ibex
The marketplace one is pretty great from what I've heard, it's on the expensive side and I'm not sure about MP support
I guess if you have the time and want the learning experience, creating one yourself could be beneficial, but if you have the cash, and want get a prototype done focusing on the "important" part (the actual game mechanics) I'd consider getting the MP one
Ouch, 2 more days and it'll be 2mo without a response to one of my marketplace requests. Is it worth quickly sending them an email asking if it got lost, or is this "normal"?
(previous tickets usually had ~1mo between replies, max)
solemn oracle
I got most of the gameplay done
pseudo sundial
@zealous ibex I would send a new email, they are quick to respond now, relatively speaking, it's possible you would get a response today
zealous ibex
Hm good point, thanks ๐ I just quickly wanted to check what other people's experiences are, and I agree their recent response times have been pretty good ๐
(got one of my updates done in ~4 hours or so if I recall correctly)
robust vector
I've never had them take less than 2 weeks to respond to an email. 3 months is more typical
But they only respond at all to about 1 out of every 5 I send so...
pseudo sundial
my most recent response time was 2 hours, though it was bittersweet because it was a failed checklist review because of naming conventions for Epic's own animation assets
robust vector
Anyone notice that a lot of packs on the MP now just have the same screenshot 3 times?
Maybe its Epic's fault for not specifying unique screenshots
Then again some packs only have 1
Why specify 3 if you aren't going to enforce it, Epic?
wooden falcon
are they music or sound packs?
robust vector
most of the offenders seem to be 2d asset packs
zealous ibex
๐ค
They should check over the text/screenshots in the final review, at least, I believe they do that for code plugins....don't quote me on that though ^^
robust vector
They should also give us the correct dimensions for our images, but we have been complaining about that for ages and they haven't done anything.
zealous ibex
Yep, I actually asked them when I sent them my images, don't believe the question got answered though ๐ค
worn oyster
damn looks like that landscape generator actually worth the pricetag
sometimes goin expensive is cheaper ๐
zealous ibex
Yep, it's probably worth it, it's just something that I won't spend my money on (yet) ๐
solemn oracle
It made my life as a solo dev 10x easier
brave kettle
Is that pretty much the best generator out there right meow?
modern perch
@solemn oracle - I've been curious about that setup, could you elaborate a bit on how it actually works? I'm not in the habit of stumping out megabucks just to find out, but I am definitely interested
brave kettle
@modern perch Now rewatching starship troopers is on my to do list. thanks for that
brave kettle
dont want to clutter the mp with too much spam ๐
modern perch
then move to lounge ๐
real dust
@solemn oracle To what degree is the spawning actually customizable?
Like, would I be able to change it up to suit a rainforest?
I have the meshes, of course. Only talking about the auto-placement here
wooden falcon
lol, so 4 featured slots now? or will it vary? forward into the past!
solemn oracle
@modern perch
The assets uses a noise brush, you paint on the terrain
then you apply the material
and it genreates the grass
the trees have a spawner you put in the map
@real dust
you can add your own trees
but I dont know about the grass
modern perch
cheers for that - what kind of controls do you have on the spawner?
modern perch
cheers, I'll have a look later ๐
wooden falcon
hmm, looks like 4.18 adds emissive lightning from materials?
brave kettle
Anyone have a preferred dynamic weather system they like for UE4?
modern perch
I haven't seen a good one
brave kettle
I'm looking around right now. I'm actually looking forward to making my own. I want to set it up so that it can be be generated as an actor based on world location/assets so more rain in the jungle areas, no rain over my desert tiles with dynamic seasons/snowfall kinda stuff. Big undertaking but its gonna be fun
zealous ibex
Woah, 2 of my plugins got approved on the same day ๐ฎ
modest viper
Why do not have a gta-style kit for unrealengine
lone mountain
@modest viper What is a "GTA-style kit" exactly?
I'd be surprised if there weren't an open-world template on the MP, or something you couldn't bash together
But, that sounds like $$$ if no one has
modest viper
@lone mountain Exactly traffic and human system and open world etc. The example in Unity is very but ue4 there is no
I'm sorry for my bad English ๐
robust vector
Hmm. The problem for making something like that for the marketplace would be having to make assets for it
Or placeholder assets
My attempts at placeholder assets were always considered too ugly
Maybe if a programmer and artist did a collaboration they could make a kit like that.
zealous ibex
^ that'd be pretty cool I'd suppose ๐ค
It'd probably attract a lot of sales too ๐ค
lone mountain
It would be a huge undertaking
But yeah, the dividends would be huge.
For something like that, I would probably say it would be best to gather a small team for it and split profit.
zealous ibex
Man, forum post preview is so messed up ๐ค
robust vector
I'm splitting profit from this https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/1360095-realistic-woman-alexis with the person who did the high-poly sculpt
Assuming the marketplace actually releases it of course
lone mountain
@robust vector So... has anyone commented on that yet?
(as in gave you honest feedback)
robust vector
Nope. Everyone just says, 'Looks good.'
lone mountain
If not, and you want me to...I have quite a bit to say lol
zealous ibex
Anyone wanna give some input? https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/1360164-subsystemconfigurator-the-easy-way-to-set-steam-up ๐
zealous ibex
(and yes vic - you'll get your credits soonโข - I am about to add it to the forum post ๐ )
lone mountain
#1...wtf is up with those eyes
It says "Realistic Woman" but she has cat eyes
The only other huge issue I see
Are those facial anims
I don't even know what to say about them, just that... they are the most unrealistic expresssions I've ever seen
Yeah, I guess those are my only two issues with it really
Maybe the butt
robust vector
Eyes have the same shader as I use in Look Alive, which is the one from the Photorealistic Character demo but with more parameters and some optimizations.
lone mountain
The butt looks really...tight
robust vector
She has a small butt
lone mountain
Yeah, but why are those jeans so up her booty
robust vector
Well, you can't really see them in those images, since they are shots of the character as a whole, and horribly compressed so I could upload them to the MP
robust vector
Its fake leather
lone mountain
so?
Can you show me a reference where you have shiny leather?
glossy
And you would wear it
holy freak dude
stop spamming every channel please
BUt yeah, this is probably the best place for it. So whatever I guess.
robust vector
lone mountain
Hmmm
robust vector
Guess I should add some images with the roughness turned up as well, since its a parameter
zealous ibex
A. selling WIP games? ๐ค B. Please don't post job ads like that in this channel - it's for stuff related to the unreal engine marketplace, and not random facebook I wanna sell my game stuff ๐
Having said that, good luck selling your game I'd suppose ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
lone mountain
@robust vector Anyway! Hopefully you took my critique are me trying to help you out.
Not like some people, who have a hissy fit
robust vector
Its a good critique
If were to do the facial expressions over, what expressions would you want?
lone mountain
I haven't done art is so long, makes me want to go back to it for a little while
nah
I lie
@robust vector Well, I know not everyone has access to FaceLift
I think there's another Indie version software out now also
That allows export in fbx
But if you were to do it via keyframe
I mean, you'll need to look at a lot of references
Or yourself in the mirror
Or find a girl
Have her do the facial poses you want, record them
The only ones that seem fine are these two: https://gyazo.com/1a6b52ea9c08316aa5a6176d7a784ea0
and that's because they are pretty neutral
I mean... does this really look like a natural facial pose? https://gyazo.com/f6d7d08d2353f76dad39e8206d8434a7
robust vector
Well, I've probably got a couple of months in marketplace purgatory I can spend on improvements
lone mountain
Yeah, I mean, not sure what you skill level is really
Not sure if you're just starting out
If you are, then good start
robust vector
I don't really understand facial expressions to be honest. It seems most people can guess somebodies emotions from their face I think?
lone mountain
<@&213101288538374145> he posted here also, he's spamming every channel now
@robust vector guess? lol
Body Language is like 100% of life
Facial Expressions are huge
robust vector
I just picked some faces and tried to replicate their poses
lone mountain
In the real world and games ๐
robust vector
Yeah, I don't really know how to learn that part
lone mountain
Hmm, yeah. You'll have to look up some tutorials and courses on body/animations
robust vector
You have to wiggle the torso around in idle animations so you know the character is breathing and not dead
Jacket does look better with higher roughness. Thanks, @lone mountain
robust vector
Just got an email from the marketplace saying I need to remove nipples from my character
My character which contains no nipples
Fantastic
real dust
Why the fuck is that a requirement anyway
wooden falcon
they don't allow anything that might offend someone
robust vector
Prudes
real dust
I understand wanting to avoid straight up porn
wooden falcon
which is extremely subjective
brave kettle
people can be so dumb. Oh no, nipples! What a crime against humanity. If you posted a 3d model of a surfer guy in board shorts without nipples it would get pulled.... for not being realistic
real dust
Byt that is just retarded
robust vector
Their sensitivity to offense is itself insufferably offensive, what a paradox
wooden falcon
so now you have to rebake all the textures?
real dust
If a customer is offended by nipples on a mesh, then don't buy said mesh
It's not like the entire marketplafe is suddenly infected
robust vector
My creature is covered in these roundish shapes
So I guess any roundish shape is a nipple now?
wooden falcon
lol, that's what they're complaining about?!
robust vector
By their definition this character is 70% nipple by weight
lone mountain
robust vector
I just responded by asking to speak to a supervisor
lone mountain
brave kettle
and speaking of nipples... blizzard has hired enforcers and some companies to try to go around and prevent overwatch porn? I didn't even know that was a thing.. but since blizzard hired peeps to stop it, it made game review news, which ended up in my game review youtube video feeds. I guess rule 37 of the internet is alive and well. If it exists, there's a porn version.
@lone mountain Please remove your porn links from MP! Poor Mario, being exploited for his body and sex image. What would his father think ๐ฆ
robust vector
I wish there was some way to make this hair look good in screenshots
I wish unreal handled transparency better
Mike V seems to be holding the opinion that indentations are nipples, which is very odd as nipple are typically protrusions
pseudo sundial
wow, my battle royale template just got cucked by Fortnite...
can't use "Battle Royale" in my title as it conflicts with an Epic IP
robust vector
How are the words "Battle Royale" Epic's IP?
pseudo sundial
exact words from the checklist: "The 'Battle Royale' section of your title conflicts with an Epic IP and may
cause confusion with buyers/users of the marketplace"
its because they came out with Fortnite BR
robust vector
Did they rename Fortnight to Fortnight: Battle Royale just to try to claim the words?
pseudo sundial
i'm tempted to fight this, but i just don't know what to do
robust vector
Make a forum post, tweets, etc. Start making the user base aware of what's happening and get them on your side.
You know what?
I found some nipples already on the MP
robust vector
But Gliomorph is not girl ๐ฉ
pseudo sundial
welp, post uploaded, guess there's no going back now https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/1360306-battle-royale-conflicts-with-an-epic-ip
robust vector
Wow, your getting a lot of people talking out of their ass on your thread
People saying you should change it to "Last Man Standing" which would by their logic, violate the IP of the Tim Allen show.
Four different erroneous claims of ownership on the term "battle royale"
Whole thing makes me hate working with Epic even more
An indie game actually becomes a huge success, and instead of being happy to collect royalties off it they rush to rip it off.
tulip marlin
Why would anybody ever add a popular game mode to their game to try and pull more people into their playerbase. Crazy
robust vector
Its scummy to do that to somebody who is already paying you
tulip marlin
Despite the person giving you nearly every tool to succeed?
robust vector
Are you calling licensing an engine 'giving you every tool to succeed'?
tulip marlin
Are you really calling it scummy to make a good business decision that doesn't effect a game with 15 million concurrent players?
robust vector
Yeah, its scummy. They tried to make it look like PubG devs were involved
tulip marlin
Highly debatable
robust vector
I don't even like PubG, so it's not like I care that much about the particulars. Just makes me less likely to develop on Unreal knowing if I do make something successful they are going to immediately release their version of it with the marketing budget of a massive corporation behind it.
tulip marlin
Immediately? PUBG has been around for awhile.
robust vector
It only got popular with streamers in the last couple of months
tulip marlin
So is a couple of months immediately to you? Also, I don't think this is the right channel for this little conversation
robust vector
Ok. New topic. Why is this in the ArchVis section?https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/mayan-temple
merry totem
Anyone here familiar with the RPG effects package on the market place?
ebon leaf
yes
merry totem
I am trying to figure out how to change the color of these effects
I need to change one from a green to a red / orange
ebon leaf
Create a material instance
merry totem
All of the materials appear to just be black and white
where is the color even being set on these things?
ebon leaf
Screen shot it
merry totem
all of the materials are black and white
ebon leaf
I don't see anything wrong here.
merry totem
But even if I set the color of the partical effects to red nothing happens
where is the color coming from?
ebon leaf
Gotta make a material instance my dood.
Pick the effect you wanna change
make a material instance
lone mountain
@pseudo sundial Why aren't there 100 players (or whatever your max is) showcased in your YT video?
merry totem
figured it out. its a setting in the partical effect itself
pseudo sundial
@lone mountain my computer can't handle that many open clients on its own
leaden root
Pretty hard to showcase 100 players
lone mountain
Anything is better than 3
leaden root
Anything past 3 would pretty much be the same
You can showcase all the features with only 3
zealous ibex
Preview 2, we're one step closer to update hell ๐
quaint cedar
@pseudo sundial https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/913021636886106112
Twitter
leaden root
Damn that sucks
quaint cedar
Happens I guess. Not surprising, but happens.
If they indeed fix it and let it pass with the BR title, then fine
robust vector
3 Players is all you need to show client to server, server to client, and client to server to client
leaden root
^ Thats what I do
robust vector
Maybe I should tweet Tim about the accusations of nipples
zealous ibex
๐ฆ That sucks, I'd quickly check in with the MP @quaint cedar
I've had updates be processed pretty quickly recently, so it could be your ticket got lost ๐ค
quaint cedar
You mean the 4.17
Updates?
I haven't submitted anything
No one said a word yet
/shrug
zealous ibex
Ah ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
zealous ibex
Dang it, I feel a hesitation coming up ๐ Why do I have to push the button myself now ๐
wooden falcon
Do it!
zealous ibex
I did, I did, and I'm already full of regret ๐
This is probably my most dodgy launch, but oh well. It's SubsystemConfigurator, which in all honesty I feel bad charging for, but then again, it was such a pain in the a$$ to create + has easily had 40-50+ hours of work ๐ค
real dust
Qu'est-ce que c'est?
zealous ibex
Dang you brand inconsistencies!
lone mountain
@zealous ibex It's published?
zealous ibex
Yah, DM me your email and I'll give you free access ๐ (as you gave me the idea in the first place, that's probably the least I can do)
lone mountain
After this book, I need to step up my game and put up at least one MP asset
zealous ibex
๐ Look forward to seeing it, I'm sure it'll be great ๐
pseudo sundial
Don't feel bad charging for it, you're making it easy for people to make sure their project is setup correctly, well worth the $5 instead of guessing that the target.cs and ini files are good to go subsystem-wise
zealous ibex
Hm, fair enough, thanks for your encouraging words ๐ They mean a lot ๐
pseudo sundial
and at least you're on the front page of the new-content page lol
zealous ibex
Yeah, quite happy about that
Mainly using this release to test out the state of the MP since the changes + backlog, it appears they may have fixed the sorting issues?
pseudo sundial
no, it still says 9-21 for your release
which i'm guessing is when you put it into the portal
considering you just hit publish
wooden falcon
"Epic should buy this off the dev and merge it into Master. I mean, why hasn't his been done before?! UX 101!!!" - Victor
zealous ibex
Hm, true ๐ค
wooden falcon
yah, knowing Epic, they'll do it but give no credit
zealous ibex
Yeah, I love that comment lol
And they did that? Pretty sure they're A. not allowed to by law & B. that'd be so, so wrong ๐ค
lone mountain
lol
wooden falcon
what, implement something someone else had the idea for, and not give credit?
lone mountain
First off
wooden falcon
companies do it all the time
lone mountain
They DO buy off stuff
wooden falcon
entire mods have become games
lone mountain
But they ask for permission first
pseudo sundial
heh, they're quick on the review emails today ๐
lone mountain
Usually they try to get it for free at first though, from what I've seen
@pseudo sundial Well, you caused a shitstorm so
They are going to make sure the rest is a relatively easy process
wooden falcon
hehe
pseudo sundial
lol
pseudo sundial
nope, email says my title is fine
pseudo sundial
FPS Battle Royale Template
wooden falcon
Battle Royale w/Cheese
lone mountain
Okay, I am going to submit Battle Royale First Person Shooter Template
zealous ibex
lol
lone mountain
Not sure if it's happened recently, but I remember the whole drama with @Celeste ๐#4080 and another dev on here
When they released PhotoMode
ON the SAME DAY
zealous ibex
I'm going to submit a Nitefort: Battle NotRoyale Second Person Shooter template ๐
heady moth
what
pseudo sundial
lol, although i am adding third person mode so oh well
heady moth
Ah now I see tag
zealous ibex
Cool
lone mountain
@heady moth remember that time when you released Photo
heady moth
I don't think pizza likes me
lone mountain
Yeah, I don't know wtf is up with these tags today
heady moth
Yeah released same day
But their asset got released like half a day later
And then my asset got reviewbombed
lone mountain
rofl? did it?
heady moth
Yup
lone mountain
that sucks
heady moth
Also took like 4-5 days until marketplace took it serious
zealous ibex
lol
candid rivet
is there a way to contact a seller directly on the marketplace or do you have to leave a comment?
zealous ibex
There's usually an email address
Go to their seller profile (the seller on a product page is hyperlinked) and it should be there
This in my case
candid rivet
ah, you are correct, had to login
zealous ibex
(blurred the email out so spammers would need to atleast head to the MP & possibly log in ๐ )
Awesome ๐
Wouldcha look at that, I have 3 items in 3 categories ๐
Also, thanks for the RT @wooden falcon โค I'm sorry I don't retweet more of your stuff - I simply keep missing it ๐
robust vector
They haven't responded to me since the nipple fiasco yesterday
zealous ibex
๐ฆ Hope you get a reply soon
robust vector
I emailed them the 'denipplized' version. I don't see the point in fighting it. Its just really weird the reviewer decided the indentations looked like nipples
Like, I don't want to even imagine what his nipples look like
Made a new trailer for Frozen RPG Weapons in the meantime
Starting to upload my assets onto other stores
zealous ibex
Awesome, the best of luck in your venture to other stores ๐
Man, artists have such a good life ๐ I need to create a service so I can do this myself too ๐ค
robust vector
Do you know how to add a link into the product description using the new portal?
pseudo sundial
There should be a link icon in the WYSIWYG editor. I think you can just highlight text, click the icon, and paste the url in the box that pops up.
quaint cedar
@zealous ibex Want suggestions for your MP Pack?
You could add the netdriver configuration
And add support for SteamBeacon setup
zealous ibex
Hm good point, I forgot about the steam beacons!
Thanks for the suggestions eXi โค
quaint cedar
Also your Twitter pinned message is over a year old
no idea how uptodate that is :D
GameVersion should be a 4 digit thingy afaik
It's relevant for Steam
no idea if 1.0.0.0b is okay
robust vector
Just signed up for Cubebrush yesterday and its already blowing Epic's marketplace out of the water. Got my first pack uploaded there. Took me less than an hour. Compare that to Epic's 4 months.
wooden falcon
yah, I think the golden age of the UE4 MP is done...getting too crowded now
robust vector
Looks like I have the option to issue coupons and sales on my own on Cubebrush. Epic never got around to making that feature
It has a tag system so somebody might actually find my products there
wooden falcon
you might try gumroad and itch.io too
I haven't had luck with them, but they're easy to get on, and have lots of features
robust vector
Yep. I'm going to try to get everything uploaded as many different places as possible while I have a break from contract work
I can't explain how nice not having a 1MB limit on screenshot size is
"Try tiny png" Yeah, Epic, I did. That's why its 2MB instead of 6MB
The revenue split is much more reasonable too
wooden falcon
yah, that's the interesting thing about itch.io...they let you pick your revenue split
glossy terrace
i found that now Marketplace is crowded with low quality product thou
after the portal update
robust vector
I haven't noticed much of a dip in quality, but exposure is 0 now
glossy terrace
we have to do marketing ourself ๐
i was thinking selling both in Gumroad and Marketplace
wooden falcon
go for it
gumroad is even less visibility though :/
and it tells you how many views your product has, so you know how visible it is
robust vector
Too bad Epic never decided we were worth view stats
wooden falcon
would have probably turned some people away early on
pseudo sundial
try sellfy too, i received more visibility there than on gumroad
glossy terrace
i feel like step back into contract freelancer instead of selling in marketplace thou
i just quit as freelancer and trying fulltime on marketplace
the result just, kind of dissapointent
robust vector
Looks like sellfy has a monthly fee
Are there any numbers available on their sales figures?
Do they do much make your products visible?
pseudo sundial
for their base plan, sellfy just has a % fee, i think 5%. monthly plan is 2% fee + $15/month
wait, they updated it wtf
i swear when i joined there was no monthly fee for basic
glossy terrace
im ok to paid the monthly fees if their bring more buyer
and advertise our product
robust vector
Advertise where?
Is there even a store front for Sellfly, or is it just individual seller links?
brave kettle
The Rama save plug in looks pretty cool. Is that what alot of people use or do they make their own?
robust vector
Might be good to learn from but I wouldn't use it in production
brave kettle
gotchya
thanks ๐ Are there some good tutorials on making your own out there?
his extra blueprint node plugin seems to be pretty popular
wooden falcon
hmm, I like the look of this: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/hw-stylized-plains
fervent berry
Hello everyone!
Does it make any sense to put a C++ based actor on marketplace?
or it's only for BPs?
robust vector
There's no c++ category, so it would need to be a code plugin
fervent berry
hmm I see, thanks
tender flame
How long is the delay between submitting the MP asset and it's appearance in the MP? 2 months?
leaden root
Theres an easy way to figure it out
Take a 6 sided dice, roll it, then whatever number it lands on is the amount of months it will take
robust vector
Assuming the sides are numbered starting from 2
I've definitely never seen only 1 month wait time
4 is normal
zealous kelp
looks like they might have fixed the order issue in new content tab
wooden falcon
yah, seems like it
clever falcon
Just wondering guys, how have you found the marketplace experience overall? I see there are a ton of missing features and disgruntled Allar has a great list of all the problems...I am wondering if there is a bright side. Like what is the revenue like, has it been worthwhile to create assets for it for you?
zealous ibex
It's had it's ups and downs, but for me it's been quite nice overall. I will admit that I am far from your standard situation, but I personally mainly create my assets because A. I need them myself or B. I don't like what is readily available (for my budget). As for revenue, this will highly depend on what you create, and how you promote it. Assuming you're the real Tom Looman, you could probably score on the marketplace, I wouldn't want to rely on it to make my living and/or just create assets for the marketplace though (as sales can be awesome, but it (for me) often doesn't justify the time/frustration the markeptlace can give me)
That's just my 2 cents though, you should probably take them with a (huge) pinch of salt, and wait for someone else to reply ๐
clever falcon
Haha thanks! That's helpful info :P
robust vector
I have eight products on the marketplace right now. Seven I took a big loss on and the other was on the featured page long enough to break even.
zealous ibex
Really? Bummer man ๐ฆ
I guess I should probably also state that I personally never made any investments other than time, so I didn't really have anything to loose ๐ค
flint snow
hiya @honest drumLooman#6066
fleet garnet
discord mention system is the best lol
ebon leaf
@clever falcon It varies a lot from product to product. If you can find something that isn't represented, that people want, you can clean up pretty good. But trying to take on pre-existing things can be a pretty big waste of time most of the time. Also, code assets tend to do pretty poorly from what I understand, plugins aside. Given the name you have behind you it's probably worth looking into for you I'd say but.... it's really hard to have any idea what will do well haha
zealous ibex
^ that
clever falcon
Hey devero!
clever falcon
@robust vector, what is your seller page? cus you know.........marketplace doesnt let me search for sellers directly ๐
robust vector
Lately I've been trying to make a few assets for each category just for the sake of getting sales data
ebon leaf
Plus, if they ever fix the related products it might help with exposure XD
robust vector
Tags
I wouldn't have to jam all the words into the product titles if only we had tags
ebon leaf
I just assume nothing is going to change and try to work within thouse boundaries lol
haha yeah
robust vector
Look how fancy that link is when I paste it
Even the link itself is better than Epic's marketplace
ebon leaf
๐
ebon leaf
wtf. No silly ones. 1/5 ๐
robust vector
If I make another character or two with the same face rig I might make a pack of silly face anims as a freebie
glossy terrace
let me think of marilyn manson
wooden falcon
lol
robust vector
So what marketing do you guys do besides forum posts?
glossy terrace
twitter, facebook
pseudo sundial
so the Recent Additions page is in the same order as the UnrealAssets twitter now so I would assume that page is correct, but the New Content page is slightly off
zealous ibex
Is it possible for mods to change the tag of a forum thread? My current tag is GUAGING INTEREST while the assets has been released, and I'd like it to be RELEASED. I don't think I'm able to do it myself either ๐ค
robust vector
I thought there was a title request thread, but I can't find it now. Same issue, WIP thread for released product.
zealous ibex
It's in the creator hub I believe ๐ค Not logged into the forums right now though, so I can't check
zealous ibex
Really?It's showing as a sticky thread on my end ๐ค
zealous ibex
๐ฎ We....we may actually get comment notifications sometimeโข? ๐ฎ https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/creators-hub/1361835-feature-request-mail-notification-on-marketplace-asset-comments?p=1361863#post1361863
(currently working on a bodget for myself, pretty much querying their API every hour or so and sending me a notification if it's changed)
robust vector
It was showing up on page 3 for me, but looks stickied now. Must have been a forum bug.
I won't hold my breath for comment notifications. The marketplace still doesn't have tags
zealous ibex
Yep, but who knows ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
robust vector
I removed my message; now its like I never even asked. Very spooky. ๐ป
But you know what is really spooky? On Cubebrush it looks like I have the ability issue coupons and sales at will. http://cbr.sh/uhx8io
If somebody asked me, I could give them their own personal discounts and nobody would ever know. ๐ป
Maybe if the marketplace had features like that I would actually shill my marketplace link.
fleet garnet
time to remove my messages, no one will notice
delicate dove
stark zinc
Yay! \o/ That's been a long time in the making. Feels good to see it finally getting finished. ๐
delicate dove
we where done months ago, but due to loaaads of personal bs it was on the backburner for the longest of times
wooden falcon
haven't we requested this repeatedly? https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/creators-hub/1361835-feature-request-mail-notification-on-marketplace-asset-comments
robust vector
requested pretty consistently since the marketplace launch if I recall correctly
Features are always coming but never arrive.
zealous ibex
That's actually looking pretty cool @delicate dove ๐ค
heady moth
Yeah it's been on the done-shelf for faar too long :p
fleet garnet
anyone interested in a wrapper around C++ shared memory?
been doing this today so might as well sell it if someone needs it
delicate dove
just a psa: https://i.gyazo.com/787b79f9a15050146279c7e69ebc002a.png yea..thats not worth half of the asking price.
wooden falcon
wow, that's expensive
delicate dove
the handpainted part is nice, actual emitter usage..
robust vector
I noticed he used hand-painted text in his thumbnail as well
wooden falcon
sales in the last few days have started to get better
robust vector
I've noticed that as well. Any clues why?
fleet garnet
mine are still relatively the same, my packs are a little more pricey so I can live with it
robust vector
My queue is getting backed up again. I've got five products in submission now.
ashen sun
I'm 100% officially done with assets on the market place
People have no clue has to handle their assets nor any idea what "rigged to UE4 default skeleton" means
robust vector
Yeah, Epic has been absolutely trash at enforcing skeleton stuff
Animation packs missing IK bones and characters rigged to the wrong skeleton
I just set up a max file for fixing animations that will automatically do the IK stuff, center the character over the origin, etc.
ashen sun
so I've been trying to work with this guy
he is using a skeleton that clearly isn't epic comparable, Includes extra bones. It's marked as compatable though.
So when I try to show him in a C++ project, he can't even compile the binaries. When I show him how he can't get msbuild tools to work and etc. was a huge pain.
he finally shows me a video of him getting default animations to work on his characters
and the first thing THE FIRST THING he does is change the base pose
on the epic rig
in order for them to actually work
-_- not really compatible is it?
robust vector
What do you mean by 'change the base pose'?
ashen sun
he modifies the base pose of epic's skeleton
robust vector
What does that mean?
Skeleton assets are just a list of bone names and their hierarchy
With the retarget options
ashen sun
because if you are retargeting multiple asset packs to the same skeleton
they ALL need the same base pose
robust vector
no
ashen sun
afaik because when I tried it their heads tilted
robust vector
They need the same hierarchy,
ashen sun
They don't even have that
because EVERY mesh has a bone with the name of the mesh itself.
which is very confusing
and every character has some sort of extra bone
robust vector
If the head is tilted wrong, the animation is tilted or the character is rigged with the with the head tilted
Nothing to do with base poses
ashen sun
which is why I went to him about it in the first place
but we couldn't even get him to open the project
cause he can't open a simple .zip packaged project in 4.17.2
robust vector
This is an animation pack from the marketplace?
ashen sun
yup
robust vector
Which one?
robust vector
What pack?
ashen sun
newest featured one
btw NONE of the screenshots are able to be seen in the demo map as well. None of the screenshots seem to actually represent the assets accurately.
ashen sun
yeah
robust vector
I wish they wouldn't allow the low-poly stuff on the MP at all
Some packs are actually 'stylized' but most are just lazy
Reviewers can't be bothered to tell the difference
ashen sun
yup in fact the reviews for most of these things feels like they are from people who got the pack for free or such
never really used it
robust vector
Yep
robust vector
Oh god
ashen sun
for retargeting
robust vector
Get rid of that
ashen sun
the image?
robust vector
Epic's built in retargetting tool
robust vector
Aside from crashing anytime I have tried to use it, yeah, its bad
ashen sun
ah I've not had it crash
robust vector
If its rigged to the correct skeleton you don't need that, just consolidate skeleton assets
ashen sun
thats true
robust vector
That tool just makes copies of all the animations
Really bloats up your animation asset count and makes it impossible to manage
Then people who make characters rigged to the wrong skeleton use it to justify their laziness
ashen sun
yup
robust vector
Much easier to just export the character to 3ds max and fix it correctly, but why buy a MP asset that needs fixing to begin with.
Better to just refund the asset
ashen sun
frankly I would rather hire a modeler to get a better result for overall a cheaper cost if you hire them in a place where the exchange rate and CoL is low
zealous ibex
Not really had sales pick up in recent days here ๐ค getting to a point where I really feel like I wasted all the time on my assets :| Glad u o hear some of ya are getting more sales though :)
I really feel like I should create one huge (100 dollar or so) asset now, having to worry about sales numbers sucks, and you'd only need a sale or two a month to beat my current sales between 3 assets
(still really happy with my sales, but I'm working for less than a dollar an hour now, which is way worse than even working in a supermarket herea ๐ค atleast I enjoy creating MP content I'd suppose ๐
(sorry for the rant ^^)
wooden falcon
๐ฆ
well, when I say sales are picking up, I don't mean by a huge amount
I'm happy if I get a sale every other day
I've had almost entire months where I didn't have a sale
also, I pretty much have to rotate my packs on sale, one per month, to get anything, and that hasn't been working so good lately
wooden saffron
woah thanks I'll be bookmarking this and waiting too see what epic's got in stock! :))
wooden falcon
with 300 new packs, I'm amazed I got any sales
I don't think there will be anything else in that thread
modern perch
those were probably in the queue for a long ass time
zealous ibex
300 packs, that's insane ๐ฎ I guess it's great they appear to have cleared the backlog, but man, that must have killed exposure in the new section for the new assets.
oak fiber
nah, the quality on some of those 300 pretty much killed their own exposure
zealous ibex
There was a lot of low-quality content? It looked pretty OK from the few quick looks I had at it, especially that one asset I forgot the name of ๐ค
lol, when you try and find a marketplace asset....but the first hit is one of your youtube videos
oak fiber
1 asset of 300 is not a good anecdotal story. I looked at almost everything. Lots of good, lots of low rent. Like the Unity store now. Congrats, Epic has hit parity
still looking
zealous ibex
๐ฆ I released one of my lesser assets dring the tons of asset stage, but only because it took up so much time I couldn't really put it out for free. I try (and haven't failed so far, at least in my opinion, feel free to disagree ๐ ) to put quality way above quantity, which is why I'd personally be scared of the epic store becoming more like the unity store. If a loooot of content gets released, it'll make it harder for a few high quality products to get a huge base, because they'll simply be overarched by the huge amount of other assets. Could be 100% wrong here, and I kinda wish I am 101% wrong ๐
Anyway, I just quickly want to check if anyone here has got a reply back from a submission using the new portal? I'm fine with it taking a while, but I'm getting ever so slightly "worried" about the fact that I don't appear to have received any emails (not even one when I submitted). Is this how it works or should I quickly verify with the marketplace team to ensure nothing went wrong on my end?
wooden falcon
I don't think it emails you
zealous ibex
Hm that's fine, I was just curious what other people where getting, but I guess it's probably just a long wait then. I don't really mind (as I have like 3 approved assets waiting to go live lol), but wanted to be sure I didn't do something wrong causing the asset to get lost. Thanks for your answer ๐
pseudo sundial
I didn't get an email until they changed the status.
forest prairie
heya, i hope im allowed to ask this in here: any marketplace creators here that would be up for a chat?
zealous ibex
I don't (personally) see any issues in you asking ๐ I'm a worthless marketplace creator (when it comes to the buisness side of things), but I'm (pretty) sure someone (who actually knows what they're talking about) will be up for that ๐
wooden falcon
don't let How fool you
he's not worthless
but ask away, if someone has an answer, they'll talk
lean venture
I just sent a new UWorks update to Epic, intended to completely remove the need for port forwarding in UE, for both listen and dedicated servers. Read more over here: https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/113863?p=1363931#post1363931
robust vector
Is UWorks an online subsystem plugin yet?
zealous ibex
Looks interesting ๐ฎ ๐
lean venture
Partially. The subsystem is still only a blank framework that's easy to modify in C++. I had to do this networking-heavy update before further developing it because otherwise I would've just ended up with a subsystem which shared a big number of problems with the Steam one.
Thanks ^
zealous ibex
Anyone in here used https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/extended-functional-testing ? It looks quite interesting from what I can see ๐ค
Really really cool & useful, just a tiny bit limited in the test options you have (bools/ints/floats, but no real other options)
robust vector
I don't really understand what it does
Needs a video probably
Is the seller portal down for anyone else?
wooden falcon
nope
robust vector
So https://publish.unrealengine.com/ loads for you?
wooden falcon
yup
I want this: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/bear and a plugin that repeats them, so I can go "Bears repeating"
robust vector
I'm usually too scared of non-human characters having a weird skeleton setup to buy them from the marketplace
Most of them don't post a screenshot of the skeleton
I keep going back and forth on whether my screenshots should use the default grid to keep the focus on the character or use a background.
robust vector
Can't tell if you mean bust or butt, but you're right
I should delete those portions of the mesh right away
Also the buttons on the jacket count as nipples by Mike's definition
Probably won't pass review
fleet garnet
Butt :p
robust vector
Well, she is up for sale on Cubebrush at least https://cubebrush.co/blackfangtechnologies/products/nr8h8q
zealous ibex
Reading through this great reddit post (again), https://www.reddit.com/r/unrealengine/comments/6dhlwz/a_short_guide_to_selling_more_on_the_unreal/, I really wish we had analytics tools ๐ค I'd love to do some experementation on how my thumbnails are doing, or if I should change them out for an image-based thumbnail
(currently made a black/grey-ish background with white text my "brand".....but for all I know that may turn potential buyers away as they don't actually see the products, or something related to the product other than it's name in the thumbnail)
marble stream
Hello guys, i'm pleased to announce that my plugin has been released after sometime wandering in the "pending for approval" limbo.
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/csw-autosave-and-load-system-w-compression
You can watch the features here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkNYuB-XIo
drifting mountain
Did the guildlines secretly change about plugin folder stuctures that I'm not aware of? I had my documentation and Extended applactions folder dropped from my last plugin upgrade for 4.17....
zealous ibex
๐ That sounds pretty odd, not hecked it myself, but if FilterPlugin works on your computer, it should also work on their end I'd suppose
I remember seeing tha a while back ๐ฎ Congrats on your release @marble stream ๐
drifting mountain
Epic is the one that told me about it lol. It is required when i have ot add docs or extra folders.
wooden falcon
Nice info HowTo
brave kettle
@marble stream I'm gonna have to look into your save system sometime soon. I'm working on a RTS/city builder prototype and I'm going to need to figure out how to implement a save system that players can come back to to load their cities. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how to stream multiple cities in different areas of the map so that the resources can be traded back and forth. So much to learn
robust vector
Do you think there are a lot of people that use the UE reddit thing. Would it be worth it to post product links there?
zealous ibex
I don't personally, but I guess it'd be worth trying. I almost forgot it existed until I looked through my bookmarks a little while back ๐
robust vector
I really don't like how little I am hearing back form Epic on my submissions after the new portal
The nipple fiasco was the only thing I have heard from them
My backlog of submissions is bigger now that it was before
zealous ibex
I think mine's roughly the same size (3 got accepted, but I submitted another (soon) 3)
robust vector
Hmm. The reddit removed my post because they don't allow links to anything besides the official marketplace
zealous ibex
RIP ๐ฆ
glossy terrace
@robust vector consider using twitter, with hastag, #UE4 #fab #UnrealEngine #gamedev #indiedev let the bot retweet for you
robust vector
Fine. I'll make an account
glossy terrace
how the sales in the new site?
robust vector
No sales outside of the official marketplace so far
glossy terrace
do you try advertising in the marketplace forum about your new site?
robust vector
Yeah. Anytime I update a product thread I make sure to mention the other places its available
Forum engagement has been super low since the forums got downgraded though. People barely ever reply to threads.
glossy terrace
you selling in the new site with UE4 format? or FBX?
robust vector
both
glossy terrace
weird
robust vector
Going to add unity when I can find time to learn it
glossy terrace
i selling some of my item in cgtrader
i break it from my UE4 marketplace, i sell it 4 time higher in cgtrader
and i got sales there
not much
selling pure fbx and tga
you might consider other site if your current platform did't work out
just my 2 cents
robust vector
I'm doing CGTrader, Cubebrush, and Gumroad atm
glossy terrace
no sales?
robust vector
Nah
No takers on freebies either
Though people will pay for the same product on the UE4 marketplace
glossy terrace
seems like forum downgrade really do a big impact thou
glossy terrace
do you try facebook?
robust vector
No. Haven't made an account for that yet
glossy terrace
its ok to advertise here as long as its for unreal
- No advertising.
The golden rule: People here are your peers, not your customers. Itโs cool to show off your stuff and raise awareness for your project, but keep it classy. Think of us as your co-workers - how would you present something cool you made to them?
This rule also applies to your crowdfunding projects on Kickstarter, IndieGogo or the likes. We understand how hard it is to get funding for your project, but this is not the place to advertise. People here will gladly give you feedback on your pitch or campaign if you ask for it, but advertising will not be tolerated.
If you do feel the urge to advertise your product or game, you can do so here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ue4promo/
We make an exception for products that make our dev-lives easier, such a UE4 marketplace packs you've created, or awesome tools or templates you've built for the community. The "Stay on topic" rule still applies here though - it must be UE4-related.
read the last sentense
robust vector
Doesn't sound worth making a Facebook account for
glossy terrace
30k member
robust vector
Well, it wants me to use my legal name instead of my brand name to make an account, which is a big nope
glossy terrace
created your brand name facebook page, then use your legal name to share your brand page post / advertisement to that page
robust vector
definitely not giving Facebook any info that could identify me.
glossy terrace
ok, i think twitter might suit you in that case
robust vector
Ok. I did a tweet
glossy terrace
show me the link so i can retweet for you
robust vector
Twitter
Do you have a link to one of your product on CGTrader I could take a look at?
glossy terrace
btw gamedev just retweet your post
i was so busy cutting down the image to under 1mb now ๐
robust vector
Yeah. Saving as a .jpg and renaming the extension to .png seems to give much better results than actually compressing a .png down to that size.
zealous ibex
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/fps-battle-royale-template it....it released ๐ฎ
Congrats @pseudo sundial ๐ (atleast....I believe it was you who created it)
pseudo sundial
yup that's me, thanks ๐
zealous ibex
Awesome, hope sales go well ๐
pseudo sundial
thanks, yeah me too ๐ค
robust vector
I'll have to buy it next time I start a multiplayer project.
robust vector
I guess plants are the next element I should logically do a pack for
Need to think of a fancier title than 'Plant RPG Weapons'
wooden falcon
gonna totally rip off this idea and make my own: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/sacks it'll be called "Sack O' Shit"
that way, when the user goes "Man, what a sack of shit!" I can go "Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!"
wooden falcon
robust vector
Hmm. Not sure if somebody literally just took two stock models and merged them or not
Doesn't look bad though. Might be good for a horror game
sonic wren
I am searching for assets for a large "realistic" map I am making. I have several climates.
Humid (Like western Europe and I require both seasons),
Desert (Kind of like Egypt with its sandy desert, dry rock mountains and the Nile in the middle)
Tropical with Volcano
Antarctic (In the north I want to put some extreme cold level design)
I will be buying Speedtree for the vegetation.
Can you someone please recommend some texture, materials and meshes like rocks, boulders, icebergs that I can buy?
Building everything from scratch is not an options :(
Thanks!
robust vector
When it comes to icy stuff the selection isn't that big.
The Particle Effects project from the learn tab has some assets that may be useful
sonic wren
I also found this which kind of covers the Humid Climate
but desert, tropic, antarctic... nothing
robust vector
I like this pack https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/desert-oasis
sonic wren
Not to mention the different rocks, boulders and whatnot that I have no clue how they will combine with the textures, materials, speed trees
upbeat cradle
Any guesses how swamped the marketplace email support is atm, like how long does it take to hear back from them?
robust vector
Less than a couple of days for updating a plugin, infinity for a new product submission
upbeat cradle
Well, so not that bad then. Thank you
marble stream
@brave kettle I'm actually making a level editor using my plugin. I'm saving the levels as .sav compressed files and it seems to be working ok. My plan is to upload those files to the cloud so anyone can download it an play it.
zealous ibex
wow, 9 more days and one of my plugins'll have been in review for almost 5 months ๐ฎ Oh well, at least it's finally close to being publishable + I ain't releasing yet anyway (I hope there is an end to the hundrerds of packs a month thing going on right now)
robust vector
submissions seem to be just as slow or slower than they were before
ebon leaf
...Not enough nipple-like features. I'm buying, but only to rate it 1/5 ๐
robust vector
I could update WebEZ to add nipple webs?
wooden falcon
the related content bar at the bottom sucks...looking at the pack for a goat doesn't show the Goat Man as related content
:/
but it does show the goat pack itself...
ebon leaf
@robust vector lol ๐
leaden root
@robust vector It looks like a warframe
leaden root
Anyone know if this is a standalone voip system or does it require the use of an onlinesubsystems voip?
robust vector
Hmm. I published Gliomorph yesterday evening but the marketplace decided to stick it somewhere on the 4th
Good to know they still can't manage to get things listed in the correct order.
zealous ibex
@leaden root I didn't create the plugin, so please don't quote me on this, but from what I'm seeing/read in the forum post it appears to rely on the unreal engine server
(as in, RPC to send the data....not 100% sure though)
It looks pretty cool though ๐ฎ
Just....kinda expensive ๐ค
robust vector
I just posted here -> https://forums.unrealengine.com/unreal-engine/marketplace/creators-hub/1359780-asset-wrong-release-date-never-showed-up-in-featured-recent-additions-or-had-the-new-tag about the dates still being wrong
Refreshed the page and my latest reply is gone
Spooky conspiracy or forums just being crap? You decide.
shadow inlet
Your post is still there. - I'll ping the team to see what's up.
Has anyone else seen their published assets being off by a day?
zealous ibex
One of mine was off by multiple days when it launched (submission date to new portal I believe), but that got rectified. (with all the other assets which had that issue to my knowledge)
shadow inlet
Yeah, they were being ordered by submission date. That should all be fixed now.
Not sure why it'd adjust the publish date by a single date though ๐ฎ
zealous ibex
What about timezones? ie If one person lives in part A of the world (let's say -10 or something) and another person lives in let's say (+8...not quite sure about unrealtime out of the top of my head), it could cause something like this to occur I'd suppose, not logged in, so unable to read the post I'm afraid ๐ค
robust vector
@shadow inlet My original post is not there. I simply rewrote the post.
Under no circumstance, different timezones or not, should publishing a product insert it between two already published products.
shadow inlet
@robust vector Ah gotcha. My bad.
robust vector
I'm in US eastern, if that is somehow relevant to what is going on with the marketplace
shadow inlet
Edit - it apparently has to due with a conversion in the timezones
robust vector
I would assume timestamps are all stored in GMT internally
Any ETA on when this might be fixed?
shadow inlet
Not that I've been given yet.
robust vector
Looks like people are still getting refund requests because the marketplace won't download certain products correctly.
shadow inlet
Definitely sorry to hear that's still going on. The team is looking into it.
flint snow
yeah i noticed the same thing on my last few packs, they were buried 3 pages on new releases
In fact, i just released a pack a few minutes ago: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/vr-integrator-radial-and-dockable-menus
and its at 7 deep... unless we all released at the same time...
shadow inlet
Thanks for the heads up - I passed that along.
fleet garnet
@shadow inlet I tried sending you a pm on the forums but it is not showing up in my sent messages category so I'm not sure if my message even sent or not. It is kinda related to Marketplace but don't want to talk publicly about it
zealous ibex
{'body': '<OBFUSCATED>.', 'author': '<OBFUSCATED>', 'vote': 5, 'id': <OBFUSCATED>, 'children': []}
``` It appears marketplace comment scrapping was easier than I thought ๐wait, vote?
zealous ibex
You know the upvote/downvote system every comment has to the left of it
I mean....I saw way more ugly stuff when looking though the json, stuff like upvote weight count? What on earth could that be there for? ๐
lean venture
I know this next question is not particularly MP-related, but it's about my relationship to my customers: earlier I saw a forum PM on my phone and I read it by clicking on it's name in the preview (inbox wouldn't show my latest PMs and it's not the first time I notice this). Now I keep trying to find that PM so I can answer it but the inbox isn't displaying it anywhere. Am I that blind or is the UX that terrible?
Also occasionally I get a red notification and when I check my "Action Center" it displays 1 notification in the "Posts" tab, but when I click on it, it doesn't show me anything at all, just my own thread, which I'm subscribed to, but doesn't have any new replies or whatever
@shadow inlet Sorry to bother, but any chance you might know anything at all about these 2 issues?
robust vector
Its the same for me since the forum downgrade
Every now and then I get one or two notifications but when I go check nothing is in there
shadow inlet
The first one is something we're aware of and working to address. Folks need to not lose messages.
Not sure about the notification thing. I'll pass that one along.
lean venture
Thank you !
shadow inlet
Yep ๐
Apologies for the bumpy transition folks. Please continue to call these out so we can get it to a better place.
robust vector
I assume rolling back to the old version is still out of the question?
I miss the days back when customers would actually use the forums
lean venture
I wouldn't want to roll back. VB v5 represents progress, even if it was poorly implemented. I'd rather see them hire a dedicated contractor to handle the entire web backend of the forums and work with one of their UX specialists while doing it (if they have any; it's turned into a real science nowadays; it's unfortunate it's being ignored and/or dismissed so easily)
robust vector
At least the old version was functional
lean venture
True, but my guess is not even VB will continue to support that for much longer
robust vector
This one is a literal eyesore. Forums are primarily used for reading, hence not causing horrible eye pain should be a priority.
lean venture
And at this scale, that's important
Yea, that's probably the most painful part: knowing it's just a few CSS changes away from a great forum, yet nobody seems to be handling these (or they do, but very very slowly)
shadow inlet
They needed some of the features of vB5 for Datasmith, so no rolling back.
robust vector
I use things with smaller font all the time that look way crisper
It almost looks like it has some weird anti-aliasing on it or something
lean venture
Looks rather clear to me. I just have a problem with the UX
Just take a look at this:
It says "Forum" 3 times in a row
There's obviously no description needed in "Forum Description". We all know where we are, not to mention we can clearly see the URL saying "unrealengine.whatever"
robust vector
The blur thing is probably just an illusion caused by the awful color scheme
lean venture
The first "Forums" is basically useless (unclickable and has no meaning). "New Topics" is definitely something you'd want to see in some side menu or, at the very least, right next to the "Forums" above
And I'd just want the dark theme on by default. The entire "Unreal" theme is dark and classy, everywhere you go and these forums just happen to be white. Inconsistent branding :/
robust vector
This is probably the source of the majority of the eye-strain people feel when using the forums
The background isn't a solid color
It some kind of noise pattern, with the contrast low enough to fool your eyes into thinking its supposed to be a solid color when it isn't
lean venture
Heh I hadn't noticed until you showed it ๐
robust vector
Exactly
Its like it was designed to cause migraines
People's experience with the forums basically became "I don't know why but I get a headache when I use this forum."
Now there is no customer engagement on the forums, excluding other marketplace creators who are there to check their own threads.
lean venture
+1 to that, especially searching seems to be less useful than before due to all the crap it returns, instead of simply returning condensed bits of information
zealous ibex
^ Yeah, search is ruining my MP asset visibility in the forums + threads are getting way less views than they used to (from what I can see)
robust vector
I can't even find my own threads
zealous ibex
I can't even change my forum signature ๐
(unable to find the settings - if anyone knows, please tell me ^^)
robust vector
A mod would just ban you for violating signature rules if you did
zealous ibex
๐ I want to make sure I don't. My current one is on the long side, so I want to make it caphable of holding 12+ products soonโข
Oh wait, @quaint cedar's post he sent over a month ago just saved me ๐ Thanks โค
quaint cedar
Yeah, that one post. Exactly that one. I remember.
zealous ibex
Your signature cannot be longer than 1000 characters including BB code markup. (sigtoolong_includingbbcode)
``` RIPNobody is going to see your sig anyway. Nobody uses the forum.
List of Black Fang Technologies' projects -> https://forums.unrealengine.com/show...ogies-Projects
lone mountain
Meh. So as long as it's <1000 Character, we goos
robust vector
I just link to a list of links
zealous ibex
The thing is links ๐
Pfhew, no rules against goo.gl links that I could fine, that and some text cutting just made me fit it in ๐
This should be within guidelines right?
robust vector
I say make it as long as you want until a mod says otherwise
zealous ibex
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
I hate that 100 char limit though ๐
I'll have to do what you're doing when I have all of my assets I think ๐ค
Welp, that's enough marketing for today...back to creating plugins ๐ค
zealous ibex
I know, any suggestions on improving it?
robust vector
Needs more colors and exclamation marks I think
lone mountain
Get rid of the descriptions I think
zealous ibex
It used to be a lot less crammed ๐
lone mountain
Too wordy
zealous ibex
Hm, I guess I could ๐ค I like giving them a short idea of what the plugin is about
lone mountain
Either no descriptions. Or something more snappy.
No one is going to read that wall of text.
zealous ibex
Hm, that's probably true. I'll work on that when I get some more time tomorrow
I need to do a lot of writing soon anyway (9 odd plugins still need documentation before they launch ^^) I guess this won't be that much of a hassle compared to that lol
lone mountain
That is something I see people keep forgetting when they put something up on MP
Plenty of buyers will pass them up
$$$$ lost
Especially on launch
zealous ibex
๐ Well I'm working for less than a dollar an hour anyway, but I do like to write god docs when I get the chance
lone mountain
When you get "featured"
zealous ibex
Launch sales aren't a thing anymore ๐
zealous ibex
Like....you're hidden in the huge pile of assets, pretty much right as you launch
300 or so assets launched last month, and there doesn't seem to be an end to it all ๐
lone mountain
I need to put something up so I can understand the actual frustrations on a seller's side.
zealous ibex
(I'm waiting for a quiter time to launch my assets so I may atleast get some exposure, but the horizon isn't looking too good)
robust vector
Also the order is wrong, so your product is buried in products that customers already browsed through
lone mountain
Have been waiting on them to fix themselves first though
zealous ibex
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad I can sell on the marketplace, but man, there are just way too many assets releasing right now to get any sort of exposure
robust vector
Can you link to the post on how to edit the signature?
zealous ibex
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Your first week or so, when you're in the new section and sometimes featured, you get the most sales
It generally died down for me in my experience, but it doesn't appear to be the case anymore
https://puu.sh/xpLW7/3daed10f8e.gif [EDIT FORUM SIGNATURE] (credits to eXi)
robust vector
If you only get one or two in launch week now, you don't have much room for dying down
zealous ibex
Yeah, that's my main issue. I really hope this is just a small boost, and'll die down soon-ish (that'll be best for everyone launching). If this continues though, I'll have wasted so, so, so many hours ๐
robust vector
I just need a break from contract work long enough to learn Unity
It would be nice if I could edit my posts without being told I'm not authorized to view the page
zealous ibex
I wish I could sell on other stores too, but I know c++/unreal....and pretty much everything I create is exclusive to that platform, so yeah ๐
Oh well, I'll see in what shape we are in a month or so. I really hope it'll have died down a bit, or the MP'll have become kinda like the Unity MP.....but with less customers
robust vector
Way less
And it doesn't even have comparable features to any other marketplace I have looked into
zealous ibex
I need to organize some sales ๐ค It may be the only way I don't go insane from low return on investment (investment: probably >500 hours, maybe even a thousand....not kidding)
(most of my assets haven't launched yet, so yeah.....we'll see how the full story pans out once they do)
(sorry for the rant, I'm just starting to get seriously worried about the sheer volume of new assets being released every week/month)
fleet garnet
my sales are really bad at the start and the end of the month, they start growing around 15th
zealous ibex
Nice, I've had a spike of hope in the last month/2 months, but it's looking pretty bad for this month. I should probably just abandon creating new assets though, it's just that I love creating ue4 content.....but I can't work on anything elaborate/a full game until I have a new pc ๐ It's like an infinite loop, but worse
Anyway, great to hear there are at least some creators who are having a good/better month @fleet garnet ๐
fleet garnet
it is worse than it was before but we can't do much :p
zealous ibex
Yep
robust vector
I had much much better sales before
Everything with Epic involved seems to be in steep decline
Products aren't getting reviewed any faster than they were before. They'll have another huge backlog
fleet garnet
maybe plugin developers are in a slightly better position because there is not that many plugins coming out and you are at the top for quite some time in code plugins section
robust vector
WebEZ is the only thing I have getting sales at the moment
Gliomorph is already pushed off of the front page
fleet garnet
someone already said this but it would be a lot better if there were more assets featured instead of just a few
zealous ibex
I don't really have a hot seller anymore, they're the newer ones tend to sell slightly more, but they're all luke warm/cold sellers ๐ค Oh well, I have a ton more assets lined up, so maybe one of them'll spark a fire ๐ (sorry, I suck at making puns ^^)
robust vector
They should just use the normal square thumbnail on the featured section
Since they won't give us correct dimensions anyway
zealous ibex
Yeah, I asked in one of my replies to a submission email, they never answered my question ๐