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zealous ibex
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That's some pretty nice cover art ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

delicate dove
zealous ibex
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lol, just curious. Is source code included for plugins? The BT like thing he got going there has intrigued me forever, and would make a small project I'm working on a heck of a lot easier. I'm not really doing anything dialogue related (yet), but more of a story based thing for which a system like that would make story "importing" a lot easier ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
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don't think it is

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unless the author provides it outside of the MP

real dust
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@zealous ibex What inventory systems are there? ๐Ÿ˜›

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I'm looking into maybe getting one xD

zealous ibex
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6 or so, and a system that has been specifically designed to crafting (exi's one ๐Ÿ˜ƒ ) which has a basic inventory, but isn't and doesn't claim to be a fully fledged inventory either

real dust
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Aaand none of them do what I need xD

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Guess I'll go do my own

lime shadow
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What functionality are you looking for that isn't there?

nova scaffold
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anyone aware of the animation pack that would have something like sitting in the car or getting into the car animation?

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just sitting is fine

zealous ibex
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There's a pretty wide range ๐Ÿ˜› What are they missing? ๐Ÿ˜›

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You have crafting, equipment, item using, hotbars, etc...not all in a single pack tho ๐Ÿค”

wooden falcon
real dust
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An inventory system where every item has a condition

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Basically, the long dark

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Condition, as in, how much is left of it

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So you can eat, but only so much

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And the rest doesn't get used

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(I don't think there is one with something along those lines, anyway)

real dust
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I could easily do it myself, just incredibly lazy ๐Ÿ˜›

sullen lion
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Or you can get one and then change it to also have your feature

delicate dove
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<< knows for sure I already zipped up the particle toolkit pack and created images. cant find the images for the life of me

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nor the zipfile

real dust
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๐Ÿ˜›

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That one in the bottom left

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Making all the others completely invisible xD

wooden falcon
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lol, new content today

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poor guys

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grats @summer jacinth

summer jacinth
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Thanks

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Only took 3 months..

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For art

wooden falcon
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looks really cool from the pics

summer jacinth
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Thanks again haha, hopefully it sells well

wooden falcon
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@ebon leaf trademark infringement!

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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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dunno, might be rough during this sale

ebon leaf
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@wooden falcon ikr ๐Ÿ˜ข And he has TWO of those packs now, and neither of them have a raptor hat ๐Ÿ˜ข QQ

wooden falcon
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lol

silver moat
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$307 yesterday sales.

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Will today be more or less? throw your bets on the table ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
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nice

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little less than a third of that for me yesterday

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I'm betting it's lower today though ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

ebon leaf
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sometimes the second day is the best one... BUT epic started earlier this time so I think most people probably checked it out on the firs tday this time. Expecting worse sales from here

delicate dove
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whoo finally send the new Luos's Particle Toolkit as a replacement for the particle a day kit thing

real dust
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You know what's sad?

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When there's really great assets on the marketplace

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But the person selling them is just shit at presentation

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I've been looking at it for ages now, but the presentation is shit, so I was not sure if the assets were actually awful, or just the material, postprocess and lighting

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Finally, we bit the bullet and bought it

ebon leaf
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I think a lot of devs underestimate how important that stuff is

real dust
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Now, after spending a few hours adjusting them and putting them in my scene

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They look like this

ebon leaf
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I've had people buy a couple of my packs just because they thought the trailers were funny lol...

real dust
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Before, it was this:

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The top is sellable, the bottom definitely isn't

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Not to mention the horribly bland postprocessing in his demo scene, the shit lighting and poor level design

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And there isn't even an overview on the asset page

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He's done literally everything to make his asset less attractive

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It's just sad

ebon leaf
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to be fair, I know at some point Epic had specific lighting and such requirements on asset submissions.

silver moat
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Not this pack but I got another pack from the same seller. It had all these weird green colors on all his stuff.

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I ended up creating brand new set of shaders.

real dust
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Yeah, all his stuff is nice quality, but just so poorly done

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I've just gotten all these things

silver moat
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The end result was actually breath taking after I was finished.

real dust
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And used my own materials on them isntead

ebon leaf
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might be a unity dev that is just trying to make some more money without investing time in the engine? I dunno.

real dust
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And now they look so much better

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Nope

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He's actually a dedicated UE4 dev

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He's got exactly one of his assets on the Unity store

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He's just really poor at presentation, it seems

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But it's a recurring theme on the marketplace

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Where I'm like

ebon leaf
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maybe s/he has weird color profiling on their monitor ๐Ÿ˜› idk. But there's certainly many assets that have bad presentation

real dust
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"This may be really damn good.... But I don't know, and don't want to risk it."

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With this I was like, fuck it, I need better foliage

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So I did it after looking really critically at the mesh quality in his pictures

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And it turned out to be worth it

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(After quite a bit more work)

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It's just such a bloody waste

ebon leaf
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at least it worked ou tthis time. Lots of times it doesnt lol

real dust
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Yeah

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It'd be nice if Epic at least forced everyone to have a picture of an overview scene with a specific lighting setup

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Then I could've seen "Oh, they're good, they just need material work"

ebon leaf
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the "do" ๐Ÿ˜› that's inconsistency for you though

real dust
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?

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Oh

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They* do?

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๐Ÿ˜›

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Yeah but that's just sad, not having enough QA to see if the guy's seven images contain an overview

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xD

ebon leaf
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yeah they ๐Ÿ˜› and yeah... there's meant to be specific standards on the overview scene, and one of your screenshots is meant to be of that... but... you know ๐Ÿ˜› that same conversation we (sellers) have been having for months now... inconsistent review process lol

scarlet wave
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@real dust Dokyo generally has good stuff, I have a few of his packs, and like em

real dust
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(I now actually posted an overview scene for it in the comments of that asset)

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Yeah, I thought so too

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His presentation is just godawful

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Same with his redwood pack

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I really do think it'd be nice to get

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But then it's so poorly presented I'm not sure

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Look at the level design there

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The assets are really good it seems

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But the demo scene is godawful

scarlet wave
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I always look for the image, that shows the parts

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and I'm like, can I use the parts

real dust
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THIS

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Every half-decent level designer knows that you shouldn't do blank spots like that

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๐Ÿ˜›

scarlet wave
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I would like to pick up the redwood, and the european one

real dust
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Spamming ferns there would've been better

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Same

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And if I look at the trees there I'm like

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"Damn, I can use those"

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But when you just browse through the pictures that's a very different story

scarlet wave
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from my perspective, it's just how I buy, I really don't care how pretty a picture of a particular scene has been created. What I'm looking at in those is, how many assests can I figure out are in use, and what is the performance hit

real dust
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Comments of the redwoods

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Right, I do that too

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But on that jungle pack I linked

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That's literally not possible

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Because the images are so fucked up ๐Ÿ˜›

scarlet wave
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I didn't buy that jungle pack, I got the other one, that has the cabin in it

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because I was sitting here going, I want that damn cabin thing

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lmao

real dust
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The one I got is quite a lot better, I think

scarlet wave
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@ebon leaf can tell ya, I am no darn artist, well ok, I'm better than he is!

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lmao

real dust
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(With my own materials, but still)

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THat's the kapok

scarlet wave
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When I got it, I knew I would have to write a blueprint, in order to actually create the cabin, because I'll be damned if I sit here, and put it together by hand, especially if I need like 20 of em

real dust
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This is the kapok in that pack with the shack

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ยฑP

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๐Ÿ˜› *

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You wrote a procedural shack builder?

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๐Ÿ˜›

scarlet wave
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I've written a lot of procedural stuff, that utilizes a spline, drag off a new control, and a new "object" created

delicate dove
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@real dust you could offer the creator to make much better images and perhaps a video for a small amount of cash.

actually, if you are really good at making amazing shots and video, it could actually be a nice way to make money.

real dust
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People actually do that?

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I considered doing it

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๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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ive seen friends getting paid for marketplace pack trailers

real dust
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Just going "Hey, if I can get your pack for free I'll do a new demo scene"

delicate dove
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i'd suggest getting paid for it, but yea thats also a way to do it

real dust
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How much'd they get paid for it?

delicate dove
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though.. we said this in public :p

scarlet wave
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get paid for those you don't want, get paid with the asset for those you do want

real dust
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Bank transfer is a bit overkill for small amounts of money due to the flat base fee that usually gets applied

delicate dove
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not sure, i'd give it a try with one or two packs, if it works, you can see if you can ask more money

real dust
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(Can only get paid through bank transfer)

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Right, Jaycle, but I'd still need to get the asset first xD

delicate dove
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start with this pack i'd say :p

real dust
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Yup

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Expensive enough for him to warrant paying someone to get it more sales

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๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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the LAM tool did a grrrreat job at selling it due to marketing and tight trailer.

scarlet wave
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@real dust yepper, and then you would know if you really wanted the asset. (Trying to stay away from the obvious, even though the Goat Fur Porn guy won't!!!!!!!!!! looks at @delicate dove lmao)

real dust
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Yeah

delicate dove
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while at its core, its just a material that places meshes upon painting

real dust
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It's really not that good

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Awful on performance

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Just your average LAM, really

delicate dove
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i like to play with it when i am bored though, its soothing

real dust
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Except less performant

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Looks gorgeous with the demo assets though, so that got them a TON of sales

scarlet wave
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@delicate dove with, or without Goat Fur Porn?

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lmao

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I mean if your being "soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooothed" and all!

delicate dove
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jay, this is a regular non-offtopic channel, be nice :p

scarlet wave
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lmao

delicate dove
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goats belong in lounge, and my bedroom

scarlet wave
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geezus, I'm trying to be nice!

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and here, I thought I was being halfway successful!

delicate dove
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speaking about LAM

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first two vids are LAM related

scarlet wave
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ok, back to painting SMs, even though I don't know how to paint a darn thing!

zealous spire
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@delicate dove Creating marketing assets for marketplace authors sounds like a really interesting business plan, actually.

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Seems pretty smart. As long as there are marketplace authors, there will be demand for high-quality marketing materials.

real dust
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Shh, shh

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I've called dibs on that

zealous spire
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You can't call dibs. ๐Ÿ˜›

real dust
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xD

delicate dove
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i know someone whose last name is dibs

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i should call him

zealous spire
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lmao

real dust
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Lol

zealous spire
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Pun game on point.

delicate dove
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@tall helm taught me well

zealous spire
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๐Ÿ˜„

real dust
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taught*

zealous spire
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Puns are good for you.

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Anyways, have there been discussions about duplicate assets on the marketplace lately? I feel like I saw someone talking about that, but I might be remembering wrong.

real dust
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We were talking about assets being on sale twice

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actually

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There may have been a discussion about duplicate assets, too

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Vaguely remember something along those lines

zealous spire
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Ah, maybe that's what I'm thinking of. I thought I saw a bit of a discussion earlier this week about some people thinking it's not OK to have multiple authors making the same kind of asset.

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Which I think is nuts.

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I hope I misunderstood that discussion. I really do.

delicate dove
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the marketplace sometimes refused packs if they are identical

real dust
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I think you do

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o.O

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That's what we all keep calling Epic out for

delicate dove
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dont know the details though

zealous spire
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Oh, OK.

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I was going to ask what constitutes "identical."

real dust
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Saying "Oh we already have this" and therefore rejecting

zealous spire
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I mean if it's literally identical, obviously that is a potential case of plagiarism.

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@real dust Oh boy. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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I hope that doesn't mean, for example, that Celeste's Photo Mode is the only one allowed on the store. That would be absurd to me.

delicate dove
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nah, there where two photo mode packs released at same time hehe

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that was another weird situation

real dust
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One of Ali's environments was rejected for that reason

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I believe

delicate dove
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yea

silver moat
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In fact nothing ends up literally identical when created by two people who don't even know each other. It's more based on the content "type" i.e someone's ice shader got rejected because there was an ice shader on the marketplace already regardless of all their differences.

real dust
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And it was not alone in that

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^^

zealous spire
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๐Ÿ˜•

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I worry about stagnation if that's really going on.

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Competition is crucial.

real dust
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Oh don't worry

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For the time being nothing is releasing at all

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So that's all fine

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;3

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Future us' problem

zealous spire
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I see.

silver moat
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I had a grass pack and it was rejected because "there was already grass on the marketplace", regardless of the fact that mine was 180 degrees different to all others.

zealous spire
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I believe they're heads down working on a stuff right now. Got the impression there was a major overhaul going on behind the scenes.

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@silver moat It makes sense if there is too many grass assets, but if there's only a few that sucks.

silver moat
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At the point I submitted mine there was like 3 others.

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And they're all different from each other apart from being called "grass".

zealous spire
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That's how some other successful marketplaces work. When they get a large supply of a certain kind of content, they'll stop accepting it and encourage other types of content in an effort to diversify their inventory.

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Oh wow. Well, I don't know how the marketplace staff feels, but 3 is not very many to me.

real dust
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Two out of those three were crap, by the way

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I bought one of those, sadly

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Only recently got a good one instead

zealous spire
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If that's the case, they should be willing to accept more grass assets of a higher quality.

real dust
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Got too scared to buy a new grass pack for a year xD

silver moat
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To be honest it's too much back and fourth every time you want to release something so some times I just go with gumroad and don't bother.

zealous spire
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Ouch.

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I genuinely hope they can make significant improvements to the developer experience.

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Itch.io, Gumroad, etc. are good platforms.

real dust
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Damn, if only I'd known that asset existed a month ago

silver moat
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That's the problem with Gumroad.

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People don't know your thing exists.

real dust
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Honestly, if they don't improve, the devs will just leave :P

zealous spire
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From what I've seen so far, Itch.io is the best marketplace alternative.

real dust
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To be fair, I do search gumroad for UE4 stuff sometimes

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Just never seen this come by

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Go search UE4 and see if it comes up

gaunt flicker
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I sold 78 units of Linter, $30

real dust
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xD

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Ah whatever

zealous spire
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What's the dashboard like for authors these days? I still haven't submitted anything so I don't know.

real dust
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@gaunt flicker Remind me in twelve hours to get it if you want your forty cents

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;3

gaunt flicker
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I wish there was a verificstion ui

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Er api

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Becsuse then id give linter for free to twitch subs

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Yolo

zealous spire
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Do marketplace authors get analytics, sales data, etc.?

delicate dove
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lol

tall helm
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nuffink

gaunt flicker
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You get units sold every 24 hours

tall helm
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we get nuffink

zealous spire
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Mostly interested in comparing to itch.io, or places like AudioJungle where I sell stock music.

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Sounds like I'm in for a rough time by comparison.

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Units sold every 24 hours is so weird.

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At least it's daily, I guess.

delicate dove
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it was realtime

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but they made it once a day

zealous spire
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That's not a good sign.

delicate dove
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we know

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:p

zealous spire
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lol

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Sorry.

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I'm just digging into old wounds now, aren't I?

delicate dove
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i didnt mean it like that hehe

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we just know

zealous spire
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I've been reading discussions over the past few days.

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Wow.

delicate dove
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all we can do is hope

silver moat
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Maaan

delicate dove
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I have faith in steph, and I hope the new crew will make it all flow better

silver moat
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Even Gandalf would've lost hope.

zealous spire
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Yeah. Stephanie seems great.

real dust
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xD

zealous spire
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She hopped back in here for a few hours not too long ago, which was a surprise to me.

delicate dove
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but there are a few peeps who suddenly want Mat_ instead of M_

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or refuse a pack over a crossed wire

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hope that all gets streamlined

tall helm
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ugh

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require naming conventions to be internally consistent

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done

zealous spire
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Seriously.

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Do they not have a style guide?

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That should be 100% consistent across the marketplace team. It should feel like one person reviews every submission.

delicate dove
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they do, but someone might have woken with both wrong feet out of the wrong bed

zealous spire
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๐Ÿ˜ฉ

real dust
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Damnit Ali, now I'm trying to find an excuse to get your grass

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.>

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Oh

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Whoop

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Just got an unexpected โ‚ฌ50 extra on my bank account

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That helps

delicate dove
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You dont need to sell yourself on tinder Rex

real dust
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Dammit Luos

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You goddamn stalker

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How did you know?

delicate dove
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that was my 50 euro

real dust
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oh snap

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#fab just became #black-marketplace

delicate dove
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@real dust his liver for sale!

real dust
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Really though, I'm still scraping money together to get a rift, so I'm afraid Ali's grass will have to wait

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Once the rift is here, though...

gaunt flicker
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There is no style guide

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At least that we can glean from

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The guidelines don't mention anything specific about prefixes at all

wicked pebble
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Uh excuse you, you made the style guide, Allar.

sullen lion
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Its not like its an official style guide for the MP

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tho apparently they accept it

gaunt flicker
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Whether or not they accept it is dependent on who you get

sullen lion
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great

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sets aside the MP pack he was totally working on

delicate dove
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id still work on it, and finish it.

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it would be a waste of time already spend, with some luck it nets some money, and it helps others who buy the pack with their work

sullen lion
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Nah not really at this point

wooden falcon
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I'll let you know how the whole duplicate items thing goes, since I just submitted one of the most common packs on the MP

sullen lion
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I really did shelve a pack though, but a while ago

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And it wasn't a lot of work- a lot of it was just me taking something I'd done a few times and putting it together so that it was a cohesive system.

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And since I shelved it I haven't done anything that used it

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so

wooden falcon
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even if it gets rejected, I learned a lot making it (photoscanned rock pack, btw)

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I try to learn something with each pack

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was thinking of doing interactive Diablo 2 style "shrines" next, with particle effects (something I've never messed with)

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I should probably get around to learning all of this expensive software I never use

ebon leaf
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Anyone know what the maximum number of items the marketplace cart can have is before it dies? ๐Ÿ˜›

gaunt flicker
leaden root
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Ew who would want to buy linter

last sparrow
real dust
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@last sparrow Yup

last sparrow
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  1. What's the performance cost like?
  2. How modifiable is it? I have a low poly stylized project, want to make the water look fitting, blocky.
real dust
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Two questions I can't answer solidly

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However

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Performance cost is, probably, with all other material features disabled, roughly the same as your average translucent material

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You can disable tesselation

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You can disable edge foam and the like

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THere's a lot of stuff modifiable to make it look right

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Not low-poly stuff, though, so you'll have to do the flat shading thing manually in the material, but that's not too hard

low copper
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so V_rex, the marketplace is sort of dead? Is there some sort of bueracracy for entry, and is there somewhere else to look for the same sort of stuff

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@real dust

real dust
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There's bureaucracy for entry, except they've messed it up royally so it's now inconsistent and waiting times are insane

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(E.g. >four months waiting for a code plugin)

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Stuff getting rejected for ridiculous reasons

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So currently, some stuff is being sidetracked to Gumroad and Itch\

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Probably the best place to look is the forums

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That's where people usually announce their products before they're out

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And then they'll communicate about the marketplace/gumroad etc there, too

last sparrow
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@real dust thanks for the answers! I have a low poly water material I quite like which I use for large bodies of water like seas and such, but for rivers I'd want something more dynamic naturally. Well I guess 10 bucks isn't a big asking price and it looks like a pretty awesome asset in any case, even if only from the tech standpoint.

real dust
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Yeah, it's really good, in my opinion

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You can easily low-polify the material, too

last sparrow
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That's what I'm gonna spend this evening doing ;D

real dust
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Not sure if you use anything like that

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But that may be useful to you

real dust
last sparrow
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@real dust thanks for the links! Here's the water I'm using now (put into a demo scene from Polygon Vikings). https://youtu.be/jGbAcpXrrRQ
It kind of does the job but I've been looking at this cartoon shader myself and thinking.

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real dust
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It's a bit of a boring material ^

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Not bad

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But boring

last sparrow
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Might have to do with the scale of the mesh resulting in less facets

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Thought it works kinda well for this "calm sea" look I'd say

real dust
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Probably

wooden falcon
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morning everyone!

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so how's the sale going for everyone?

delicate dove
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sold slightly more than half of yesterday

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so.. its ok

fleet garnet
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had 1 sale :p

wooden falcon
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yah, I had 9 yesterday and 6 today

fleet garnet
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first day was great

wooden falcon
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i'm forseeing a really empty sales period the rest of the month

fleet garnet
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I had a few sales but my YouTube analytics are going crazy

wooden falcon
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btw, when going to the Seller menu, does everyone else have to refresh the screen just to get it to work? been doing that for a long time

fleet garnet
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I have to login every time I open the page

delicate dove
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yea, also have that issue

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@heady moth as well i think

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I think Alex and Amanda mentioned afew times it was to be fixed soon but sadly no permanent fix

wooden falcon
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I don't have to relogin, but I do have to refresh cause it goes to a incomplete page

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amazing that they can't even fix simple shit like that :/

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problems with single sign on, I guess

heady moth
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whaaaa

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Why mentioning me

fleet garnet
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at what time are MP assets usually released, mine should be released today

heady moth
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Usually between now-ish and another 4 hours

fleet garnet
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ty, well more waiting

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better get my emails prepared for a bunch of support requests...

heady moth
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I have barely gotten that

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Maybe 1 or two per pack

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and I have 10

wooden falcon
fleet garnet
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I got a bunch on my old AI thing and because of that this new one I made as easy as possible to set up

heady moth
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I think I can't simplify mine more

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I have a pack that is 3 steps

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Adding an interface

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a component

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and setting a variable in the player controller

wooden falcon
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woah...that sounds complicated

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what's an enterfacepalm?

heady moth
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๐Ÿคฆ

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?

fleet garnet
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50% of support requests I get are some basic engine things, not even related to my plugins

heady moth
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Oh yeah or "I bought your turret kit, can you help me with all these questions unrelated to the pack?"

fleet garnet
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yeah literally

wooden falcon
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all the plugins I'm seeing on the sale seem way too cheap for the amount of effort it takes to create/maintain/support them

fleet garnet
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sometimes engine upgrades can be a nightmare

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I hope nothing major changed in 4.17

heady moth
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Well Necrophob, that's not to blame on all sellers per se

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We have to adjust prices to fit in the current pricing scheme

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if there are a few people that don't need the money but want to release a plugin, they put it lower and then our prices go down too

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If you compare blueprint prices from 2y ago it's a massive difference

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People always kept going lower so we had to adjust to fit in the market and not be too expensive in comparison

fleet garnet
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anyone else using the old pecomputed header thing, I use it because I would spend more time looking for headers than actually programming something

heady moth
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And now we're stuck on low prices

wooden falcon
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so someone just started undercutting, and everyone had to lower their prices

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sounds like the WoW auction house

heady moth
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It's an economy

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as is Wow Auction house

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funnily enough

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It changes

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and adjusts

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One asset pack undercutting didn't cause it

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it's a long term process with multiple sellers and asset packs

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which wasn't per se on purpose

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It's just a market

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

wooden falcon
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seems odd how epic arranged the packs on the sale

heady moth
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I don't think they arrange it at all

wooden falcon
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I've seen a few people with several packs on the same page, others are pure random

heady moth
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It's also not first come first served because then my pack would not be on the frontpage

wooden falcon
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here's something I'm curious of, since I see you have a pack on page one

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how is it selling relative to your other packs on the sale?

heady moth
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It is the best selling but maybe with 1 or 2 sales extra

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Not a big difference

wooden falcon
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I feel like there are many buyers who aren't going to crawl through 40 pages

heady moth
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I think they just search in general

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going to the blueprints page

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fx

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sfx

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to what they might like/need

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the sales are active there too

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it's what I do

wooden falcon
leaden root
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Man I cant wait to buy @fleet garnet Vehicle physics

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Oh wait, I bought it months ago..........

fleet garnet
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lol

leaden root
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Jee wizz marketplace sure works fast

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Oh dude

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Its out

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Thats earlier than normal I think

real dust
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Got me some Linter ;3

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Allar didn't even remind me

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I almost forgot

lone mountain
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@real dust overpriced in EU

wooden falcon
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lol

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@ebon leaf just bought your survival pack and your map pack ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wooden falcon
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dammit Epic, saw an email from them and got excited, then realized it was my receipt for the packs I just bought

delicate dove
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hehe same

fleet garnet
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still waiting for my plugin to get released today ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

leaden root
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Dude

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Its out

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I commented on it hours ago

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@fleet garnet

fleet garnet
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thank you for letting me know, been looking at the home page and couldn't find it ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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ty for the comment

leaden root
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You should make a video on implementing that security car pack

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And use the settings you did for me

fleet garnet
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need to buy it first, maybe I can work that out with the author of that asset

ebon leaf
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@wooden falcon I look forward to hearing how crappy they are XD

wooden falcon
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lol

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hmm, the new review critiques are interesting

ebon leaf
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que?

wooden falcon
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for pack submission review

ebon leaf
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oh

wooden falcon
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got back some changes I have to make to my rock pack

ebon leaf
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interesting is... one word XD

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oh?

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hmm, would you be open to sharing this? There are a number of sellers currently in discussion with members of epic on how to improve the review process for the benefit of everyone (Epic, Sellers and Customers)... but it would appear that the people at the top of the marketplace have different ideas to the actual reviewers at this point about what is actually being said

wooden falcon
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they sent a pdf checklist of things they looked at

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you either get a pass, or a fail with a small blurb on why

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so for me, under Quality there's a category for "Assets are free of visibly obvious discrepencies", and I failed with "Rocks have visible seams, texture stretching"

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which sucks, cause seams are hard to totally hide with organic shapes

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and I don't know what they're referring to with texture stretching, it has none :/

ebon leaf
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hmm okay

wooden falcon
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regardless, it sucks, cause to fix seams, I'll have to re-unwrap, and then bake EVERYTHING again

summer jacinth
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Those are two exact pints that I had gotten two, for rocks as well...

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I told them it was nearly impossible for an organic shape such as a rock to have no distortions or seams

wooden falcon
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looking at a nice rock pack I just picked up....what do I see on the first mesh? a visible seam

stark zinc
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Now I don't know anything about photo scanned models, but I've done seamless organic models. You just need to texture paint on the 3D model over the seam.

wooden falcon
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would have been nice if they were more specific, like, is it all the meshes, or did one really piss them off?

stark zinc
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The only issue is, if you rebake your textures, you need to repaint the seam again

wooden falcon
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this guy's rocks are very nice, but they have very visible seams and even a little stretching too

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the seams aren't in the diffuse though, it's more of a lighting thing right around the seams

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ok, I may have found what he was referring to...one or two of my rocks might have had shitty seams and I might have gone overboard with the tessellation (which resulted in some stretching in spots)

wooden falcon
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cool!

wooden falcon
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k, shouldn't be too much work to fix my seams...only a couple will have to be reunwrapped...went way too skimpy on the polys and will have to retopo

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the others I painted out in substance painter

ebon leaf
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Nek minute... "sorry, we cannot approve this as there are no visible seams"

elfin plinth
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and main reason is those rusted plastic bumpers on each car

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pack creator doesn't care (he's here, can't remember his nickname)

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I guess I just dislike things like these in game art in general, as it shows that the artists had no clue how things they made work in real life (would be totally different thing if the assets weren't supposed to look life like)

lone mountain
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Heh

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OP

elfin plinth
lone mountain
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@elfin plinth link to actual asset?

lone mountain
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Hmm, don't know him

elfin plinth
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customers seem to like it though

lone mountain
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Maybe it looks better in game?

elfin plinth
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I mean, it's not a bad looking asset pack in general, I'm just put off by those few details

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I'm pretty sure most customers don't even realise those things

gaunt flicker
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Gamers don't know reality

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A project I worked on got a lot of flak because we based something off the LA river which is essentially a giant water cement sewer (that shit you can drive on in GTAV / Grease), and we had moss and plants growing in it

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People were like, shit can't grow through cement

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Thats not real

elfin plinth
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heh

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I don't really see why moss couldn't grow on it

gaunt flicker
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We posted our source reference pictures, we went to the LA river with a camera and just took a bunch of pictures of exactly what we had

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People were still angry

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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So yeah, plastic on cars rust

elfin plinth
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well, I'll widraw my comments when I see mitsubishi galant with steel bumpers ๐Ÿ˜„

gaunt flicker
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Aye

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I'm pretty sure you could sell a bottle of headlight fluid on the marketplace

elfin plinth
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also

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they know Kubold has been using Animset Pro as his brand for animations, yet they allow new sellers to use the same thing?

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I dunno if there's some deal between Riko and Kubold though

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oh

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apparently there is

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so, nevermind then ๐Ÿ˜„

lone mountain
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Oh, I get some free anims

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from Kubold

modern perch
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is there nothing new in the marketplace this week, or is the 'recent additions' page just not working?

delicate dove
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seems the latter

modern perch
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well that's a bit naff

delicate dove
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yuz

delicate dove
stark zinc
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What's the best way to do a pure texture pack for the marketplace? Has anyone made one or bought one? Are all textures just in a demo project as uassets or are the textures in the zip as png/tga?

silver moat
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You can't include zip or raw files.

stark zinc
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I can't? I thought I read in some marketplace comments that people mentioned or asked for the source files. Models, textures, etc. They just share that outside the marketplace then?

silver moat
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Yes.

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No everyone does it though.

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You're not required to do so.

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That's just if you want to do it.

stark zinc
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Well, how would I know the guy asking for the source files actually bought my pack?

ebon leaf
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If you give them the email associated with your account, and ideally the order number if you have it, they can get epic to check it. Takes time though (as with ANYTHING epic does)

stark zinc
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Ah, I see. Well thanks, that makes things easy for me then. just import all textures into ue4, don't bother with the source files unless someone specifically asks for them. I wasn't sure if people expected to get the source textures as png/tga when they buy a texture pack.

delicate dove
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be sure to name all them files properly yo :p

summer jacinth
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Fortunately you can just export the textures in bulk out of ue4 and get the raw files

delicate dove
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redirectors, redirectors everywhere

modern perch
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wtf

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Fix up redirects, please!

delicate dove
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ikr

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how can this be accepted I wonder

stark zinc
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Guidelines are just guidelines, right? ๐Ÿ˜›

delicate dove
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loosely hehe

fleet garnet
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is there a limit to how many people I can give entitlement (or whatever that is called), I want to give it to people that bought my plugin early on Gumroad (16)

delicate dove
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@fleet garnet you can email the marketplace team

fleet garnet
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I asked here just in case if someone knew if there is a limit

leaden root
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I'll smack them if they dont let you

fleet garnet
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
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The limit is defined by whoever you speak to based on how much they feel like not doing anything that day ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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Woohoo! I got a reply back about my plugins

delicate dove
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whoo

zealous ibex
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Man did I do a lot of things wrong tho ๐Ÿค”. I didn't have class comments for like 90% of my classes & had 5 (or so) whole if/for statements for which I had incosistent {} usage ๐Ÿ˜› Atleast I know how to improve my code now I guess ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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Atleast I think I got away with a ton of comments explaining my code ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

ebon leaf
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Did they tell you that your if statements weren't PBR and that the variable declarations had visible seams? XD

zealous ibex
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lol

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โค

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They would have done that on one of my plugins if I wouldn't have told them they messed it up ๐Ÿ˜›

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(they sent me a blueprint/art like reply instead of a plugin reply ^^)

ebon leaf
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lol... i wish I was surprised by that XD

zealous ibex
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lol

wooden falcon
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HowToCompute, be sure you plug a constant node into all of your metallic for loops

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:/

zealous ibex
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Man I just realized, I forgot to clean up the material around my 101th for loop :|. Anyway, lol โค

wooden falcon
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oh no!

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here comes the big red Fail

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

fleet garnet
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the reviewer that was assigned to my submission gave me a bunch of advices and shortcuts

zealous ibex
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Really? Nice

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Mine just gave me a pretty large list of stuff that I had to fix, and a list of reccomendations (which where really useful) ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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So I wouldn't be able to complain about my reviewer ^^

fleet garnet
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I was surprised too lol, he was nice ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

zealous ibex
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Tho your code was probably better than mine ๐Ÿ˜›

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Not saying my code is bad, don't get me wrong, but your plugin is amazin'

fleet garnet
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I had a biiiigggg list to fix

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thanks ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

zealous ibex
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Mine was about 6/7 points on the have to fix in my first email ๐Ÿ˜›

fleet garnet
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mostly me doing everything the longest possible way

zealous ibex
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Ouch

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Yeah, I used a lot of braces on my single line for loops and not on my ifs, that's apparently not allowed?

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You said they checked memory leakage right? Do they do that before or after they send you an email detailing the problems with your code formatting/commenting/etc? (atleast as you mentioned it, I'd suppose you may know)

fleet garnet
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I used a lot bool ? Thing : OtherThing, I had a few lines that used a combination of that inline if thing over the whole screen width, I'm not sure how I got away with that, they told me about the leak after the first review

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ‘ I guess the best part has yet to come lol

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(there's one really annoying thread-based leak that I can't seem to fix ๐Ÿค”)

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And ternary operators. I love them, but yeah, they can be a pain if you overuse them lol

fleet garnet
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yeah lol, I recently started working with multithreaded stuff and is a big pain when it doesn't work

zealous ibex
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Yup

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I did some async/thread based stuff in my NetShield plugin as crypto/sockets aren't that nice when they block your game thread ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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How interesting. Seems it isn't just first day of the sale that people look through ๐Ÿค”. I got as many sales yesterday as I got the first day ๐Ÿค”

zealous ibex
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Also, epic seems to have had a reply-to-me day yesterday ๐Ÿค”. I got a response for (nearly) all of my plugins...on the same day lol

silver moat
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@zealous ibex Sounds like someone decided to work ๐Ÿ˜›

glass sail
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Anyone know of any essential items on UE4 Marketplace atm?

fleet garnet
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when they finally started working on my submission I was able to normally talk to them and ask questions, I got 4 emails/answers in 2 days ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

glass sail
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Got some spare change, want to buy some stuff but dunno what I really need atm.

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Already bought my sfx, vfx, character models, weapon models.

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Looking at props and environments... but I dont want to waste $90 on an environment when I could just get the assets and build one myself.

ebon leaf
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I'd personally recommend everything by that wonderful Dapper Raptor Development guy... but that is because that's me XD

glass sail
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Link?

ebon leaf
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oh lol XD one sec

glass sail
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nvm found you

ebon leaf
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haha :p

fleet garnet
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also that Blue Man, I heard he has 2 nice plugins ๐Ÿ˜‰

ebon leaf
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I was playing with some blue man cars today. Can confirm - good vehicle plugin ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

glass sail
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Don't really need your assets, it's all BP/C++ related.

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Sorry man ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

ebon leaf
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haha no need to apologise ๐Ÿ˜› i was only joking anyways XD well... shameless plug joking XD

glass sail
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Well, your exposives stuff looks interesting but I wouldn't need the BP.

fleet garnet
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@ebon leaf Thanks ๐Ÿ˜‰

ebon leaf
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@fleet garnet pfft, no need to thank me... if I ever wanna do vehicles in a game I'm picking up your plugin for sure (was a friends game using it)

glass sail
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Blueman, your stuff looks amazing but can I recommend something?

fleet garnet
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Sure ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

glass sail
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In your Military Ammunition pack, include differnt color for smoke materials instead of grey. Same thing with your grenade. It's not that hard to implement and will make your pack "appear" bigger.

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Just a suggestion is all...

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like those

fleet garnet
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great idea, some dynamic materials and stuff

glass sail
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yeah for sure

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doesnt need to be dynamic

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but if you do that, you can.

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it should be pretty simple

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make a seperate mat for the nade

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and then do rgb

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Any other suggestions for UE4 marketplace?

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I'm reffering to VFX, Propers, Environments, Plugins, etc.

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Like a mega pack would be nice.

fleet garnet
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thanks, I may do some stuff for 4.17 regarding my ammo pack, too busy right now

glass sail
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no worries

true roost
#

Hello guys. I released my plugin for UE4 that will allow you to easy save and load Actors and Actors Components Data!

The plugin is on itch.io right now and hopefully will be in the UE4 Marketplace in a few days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=TVkNYuB-XIo

Purchase the Plugin on itch.io: https://cronofearsoftworks.itch.io/ue4-auto-save-and-load-system-with-compression
Link of the Plugin website (tutorials, documentation, etc): http://cronofear.com/ue4-plugins/auto-save-load-system-with-compression/

What do you think about this plugin? Any feedback will be very apreciated!

itch.io

Easy Save and Load any Actor by adding a component.

zealous ibex
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Cool ๐Ÿ‘

ebon leaf
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Uhm

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was the marketplace hacked?

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everything is on sale for 60% off?

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48 pages

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all on sale

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everything is 60% off too

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ROFL

zealous ibex
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It's the summer sale @ebon leaf ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
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oh really?

zealous ibex
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One of the biggest/largest sales every year. I think this is the biggest sale ever ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
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i thought it was hacked or something

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rofl

zealous ibex
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rofl

ebon leaf
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Im sitting here looking at this

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and im like

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there is something really fucking wrong going on here

ebon leaf
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Explain to me why 6 idiots purchased an asset which literally just calls SetActorLocation() I'm assuming that's all this does because I don't want to clinck it and lose IQ points. http://i.imgur.com/39cL8E0.png

ebon leaf
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hmmm, 6 ratings, that's at least 100 purchases ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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like

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its literally just

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LineTrace=> Open UMG widget => SetActorLocation()

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i dont get it

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free money?

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should i release a marketplace asset

true roost
#

Hey!
As there's a summer sale in the UE4 Marketplace. My plugin on itch.io is on sale too! 50% Off for the next 10 days!

Link:
https://itch.io/s/7827/ue4-auto-save-and-load-system-with-compression-summersale

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkNYuB-XIo

#IndieDev #GameDev #Screenshotsaturday

viral zinc
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@ebon leaf that happen more often than what you think, aswell content made with tutorials or bad created content

ebon leaf
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yeah

ebon leaf
sullen lion
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Think that's bad, look at EasySave

wooden falcon
#

my sales followed an interesting pattern: 1st day 9, then 6, then 3, then 1

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I'm expecting negative numbers tomorrow

stark zinc
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2, 2, 2, 2, 1 for me

summer jacinth
#

I've been getting around 15-20 a day

wooden falcon
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nice

summer jacinth
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But I've got 10 assets

true roost
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I've got 0 today T_T. I hope it's different when my plugin is accepted in the Marketplace.

zealous ibex
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I got 3 sales ๐Ÿค”. I only get ~$5 per sale tho ๐Ÿค”

ebon leaf
#

sales returned back to normal amounts today for me. Though obviously less money because of discounts. I'm expecting the rest of the sale to be pretty bad, as well as most of next month (as is usually the trend with these big sales)

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

ebon leaf
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88 units sold over 4 days though so not too bad.

zealous kelp
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epic seems to be charging the wrong rate for dollar conversion i noticed with my last purchase a couple of dollars higher in their favour

ebon leaf
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a lot of time online marketplaces use a conversion rate a few days old... but I dunno if that accounts for that big a difference or not

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depends on how much you are spending I guess haha

zealous ibex
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Nice ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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10 units over 4 days here, but inventory stuff is super competitive

ebon leaf
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yeah. I also have 6 packs haha ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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(even tho I'm by far the cheapest currently on sale lol)

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I wonder if kicking up the price'll make people think it has more value ๐Ÿค”

zealous kelp
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yeah thats what i thought they hadnt updated the rate when they do update (if lol) should be a good time for purchases from australia as the dollar is high right now

ebon leaf
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I think the biggest challenge you face is competing with ARPG Inventory System... as it presents very similar to yours, though with epic's own artwork (from the Infinity Blade Packs) and has a shit ton of ratings lol

zealous ibex
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As I'm literally the only inventory system that has crafting (eXi has a crafting system, but that's based around crafting & not inventory stuff) lol. Oh well

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Yeah, Pirate's work is great ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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But I just so happened to have created an inventory for my own stuff, and someone suggested selling it (man, so thankful for that guy), but I'm trying to create new/unique stuff now ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
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oh I don't think there is anything wrong with competition... i have both your system and pirates, and they are different... they just present similar lol

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Pirate also got in a lot earlier than you haha

zealous ibex
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Yep, competition is good for customers. I'm not complaining either, but it's the cause for lower figures compared to other people's sales (which I honestly don't mind)

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Any sale I can get gets me closer to not waiting 11.4h for ue4 to compile ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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lol XD

zealous kelp
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his has the cover art with the armor items being used etc which will attract buyers

zealous ibex
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Yup, that's the only thing I'm still working on with my system. I don't have any equipment stuff going on ๐Ÿค”.

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At first I thought it wouldn't be generic enough, but as pretty much every inventory system out there (not just pirate's) seems to have it, I am working on it ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

ebon leaf
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I see the spamming of "MY ASSET IS ON SALE" starteed a few days later this time round XD

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜› Yeah, I personally decided not to spam the forums, as seeing it makes me cringe lol

ebon leaf
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i normally do it once it gets to this point to avoid being lost in the noise... but cbf this time ๐Ÿ˜›

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Just wait for the inevitable "I bought your pack and <some question I haven't covered elsewhere that I probably should have>" to bump my threads for me XD

zealous ibex
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Same here lol

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I actually timed my thread replies to bump me as soon as my thread started to drop down ๐Ÿ˜› I did give reasonably speedy replies, but I usually get questions while I'm sleeping (in turn bumping my thread & brining it back down when I wake up)

ebon leaf
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haha

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yeah... australian so almost always asleep when people ask things XD

zealous ibex
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^^

ebon leaf
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as in you're an aussie also?

zealous ibex
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Nah, European, but people tend to ask questions in the afternoon/evening from the US, so I'm (usually) asleep

ebon leaf
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ah haha, yeah XD

elfin plinth
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so

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just to verify something

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you sellers, you still get only total sale number per day now, right?

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and no other stats for your sales

ebon leaf
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we get a table that is updated once per day

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has that information for each item on each day

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that is it

zealous ibex
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Yup ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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I wish we had realtime stats, or even better, some kind of analytics info. Stuff like demographics, amount of years using ue4 etc, man, if only I had that kind of info lol, that'd help marketing a lot

elfin plinth
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had to vent a bit publicly

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you all know that already

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but maybe they'll respond if it's up on their official forums

zealous ibex
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wow, awesome article โค

elfin plinth
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nothing happened when complaining about those here

zealous ibex
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Not read it all, but a quick skim revealed some really good points

elfin plinth
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yeah, you get the point by just reading the underlined parts ๐Ÿ˜„

zealous ibex
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As for

Marketplace sellers don't get invoice IDs from the sales
``` I wish they'd add something like this too
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Or even just a verification API

elfin plinth
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I'd rather get the IDs

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as then I'd really know the sales happened

zealous ibex
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I have a project I pretty much quit as it required a special server (that I didn't just want to put out for free), but sending them an email about each purchase sucks

elfin plinth
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I don't trust their numbers one bit ๐Ÿ˜„

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

elfin plinth
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I would otherwise but taken their past action into account, that would be silly

zealous ibex
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Yeah can't blame 'ya

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Anyway, I need to continue work on this asset trailer ๐Ÿ˜

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I used to love video editing, but it's become such a chore now lol

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Nuuu, it has random artifacts ๐Ÿ˜ญ

ebon leaf
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for the record... there is complaining on their forums, in the closed area meant to be for communication with sellers. We have had public threads before. But never opposed to more people trying.

zealous ibex
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^ Yup

ebon leaf
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"As I was downloading, i remembered the marketplace has sales going on so i checked it out... template is currently %50 off, now cheaper than a movie! Grab yourselves a copy for updates, profit and hot women!"

comment left on a pirated build of my template lol...

zealous ibex
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That's pretty nice โค

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Don't get me wrong, pirating really does suck, especially as a seller, but atleast some people have a bit of good faith & try to motivate others to buy it (during the sale)

ebon leaf
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surprisingly, I've not seena huge increase in pirated work during the sale. I was expecting it to get a bit crazy

zealous ibex
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Still haven't found a pirated copy of my asset, honestly pretty amazed about that lol

ebon leaf
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I can donate a copy to the masses if you want ๐Ÿ˜›

elfin plinth
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@ebon leaf I should have vented about the closed forums too ๐Ÿ˜„

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as there's lots of info there that would benefit the customers to know about too

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lots of the info is just hidden from rest of people

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like, reasons why things work like they do

ebon leaf
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...they don't tell US that in there either if that helps

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I thin khaving a closed forum for seller <-> epic communication is a good idea... but it's just sellers complainign at epic and epic ignoring us tbh

zealous ibex
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lol @ebon leaf ๐Ÿ˜›

ebon leaf
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I wasn't joking ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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O.o, please don't lol

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Anyway, is it just me, or is epic not randomizing the assets on the front page every day like they used to?

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I haven't even found my asset's page in the first 600 items....could just be me tho

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(and there are author(s) with like 2 items on the front page)

zealous ibex
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O.o, just sent my 4th plugin off. I really do hope I'm not clogging up their code review system ๐Ÿค”

quartz acorn
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@zealous ibex They decide to ditch this system

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Now they update it once per week to show 3 new assets out of ~30, 3 old random assets and 3 old chosen by the team

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however they forget to update it sometimes I guess

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I remember once same items were on the frontpage for 3 weeks

zealous ibex
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Ah, thanks for explaining ๐Ÿ˜ƒ I guess the same applies to sale pages then? ๐Ÿค”

quartz acorn
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Nah, they just don't update it at all

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Like last time we had this huge sale

ebon leaf
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it sucks because

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theres a lot of shitty assets

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that just cloud the good ones out

zealous ibex
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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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Good is something that is pretty subjective to opinion tho

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I mean, I may think my assets are good, and that for example Skull's shaders are good, but someone else may totally disagree with me. You can't really classify something as a $hitty asset using purely objective means ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

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(atleast if QA is still as good as when my blueprint was reviewed, man they are strict lol

leaden root
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Hows the sale going for everyone, selling alot of copies?

quartz acorn
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Mmm, it depends. ~6 sales per day. It's better than usual, but far from good old sales with 200-300 sales per day ๐Ÿ˜„

ebon leaf
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ive been thinking

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about putting up my own sale tbh

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is it worth it to make one?

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lol.

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I mean, I've been thinking about making my own marketplace product.

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But is it profitable?

fleet garnet
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I would say yes

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it depends, I have one cheaper pack and it sold very badly

ebon leaf
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The thing is, I would probably end up doing code stuff.

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But not in Blueprints

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Do they accept C++ projects?

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I don't see any.

quartz acorn
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Only in plugin form if I'm not mistaken

ebon leaf
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._.

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why? lol

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so u can make a fps template in blueprints

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but not in c++?

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_<

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#logic

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#EpicGamesLogicTeam

fleet garnet
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I think you can have content inside plugins, so you could maybe use that ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

quartz acorn
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It's can take up to 4 month for them to test a small plugin. Imagine a full fledged template project ๐Ÿ˜„

ebon leaf
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thing is

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i know exactly why

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i work at a software company full time

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and they take like

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4 months to do

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a simple bug fix, sometimes its simply a typo that needs to be changed.

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its fucking retarded

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4 months to change "T he" to "The"

zealous ibex
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You can, it's just on a case-by-case basis

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(I think)

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I inquired about this a while back, and you should theoretically be allowed to (there's some c++ FPS template out there), but it's on a case-by-case basis from what I've heard, meaning you don't have any guarentees that it'll be accepted

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(not that you'll have an guarantees with blueprint assets either tho ๐Ÿค”)

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I'd do your own research tho, I'm not liable for any wasted work you may occur with the knowledge I just shared lol

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Gotta put in that disclaimer

ebon leaf
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They also were using that C++ template as a 'test' to see how it went... and I don't think it went very well. Crazy amounts of issues with it, from people not understanding how to set up VS properly, to the developer just abandoning it because it wasn't profitable, etc. I think they have them ironed out now, but I'd guess they are quite hesitant to go down that path again

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It's also worth noting that a lot of people who buy codebases on the marketpalce are going to gravitate towards blueprint, because they are more likely, across the board, to be people who don't program.

zealous ibex
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Hm true, your best bet is indeed plugins

ebon leaf
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pretty sure you could make a plugin that 'generates' a project that is essentially a template anyways

lean venture
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@fleet garnet That's how I distribute my example project with UWorks, via the "/Content" folder. So far, Epic hasn't complained about that part. I also have a feeling I'm about to win our silent competition for the longest waiting time

fleet garnet
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I wanted to do it for my Plugin but wans't sure if we are allowed to have content in our C++ plugins, I guess we can

elfin plinth
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hmmmm

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this still applies?

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I couldn't find any slot where you enter VAT id

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which sounds stupid

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well, I necroed the 2 year old thread

zealous ibex
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@Vlad#1167 Apparently y'all aren't even close to the maximum waiting time. There was 1 plugin that had a ~12mo wait? Pretty insane ๐Ÿค”. Bummer about your waiting time tho ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

lean venture
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I had no idea lmao

stark zinc
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Is there a way to enable email notifications for marketplace comments? I got really nice comment yesterday on my pack, but got no notification about it. If someone has a question about my products I'd really like to know immediately. Couldn't find any notification settings.

delicate dove
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sadly no

stark zinc
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:/

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Well then, I guess I'll make it a habit then to check my product comments frequently.

delicate dove
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its something weve been asking for since.. well marketplace opening :p

pine solstice
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is it just me or is the market place a little hard to navigate

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?

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i was trying to just key word searches within the sale section items and i cant find a way to do it

ebon leaf
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It's not just you. That is ALSO something we've been asking for more or less since the marketplace opened

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@lean venture @zealous ibex the plugins that were waiting a year were the ones before plugins were actually allowed on the marketplace afaik. Epic took forever to get them on there lol

wooden falcon
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ok, fixed my seams on my rocks...glad they mentioned them actually, cause some were subpar

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sometimes you get too close to your project, and don't see the bad :/

wicked pebble
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This is true.

summer jacinth
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It's great now that they have a much improved feedback system

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That is one thing I am happy about

zealous ibex
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Oh really @ebon leaf? Never knew ๐Ÿค”

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Anyway, review times are pretty bad ๐Ÿ˜

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Why did I submit like 4 plugins within months of eachother?!

ebon leaf
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look up "sado-masochism" ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜›

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Atleast 3/4 are into in-depth review & one of them has only just been submitted (like yesterday)

ebon leaf
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eh at least you are getting shit done

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better than me atm

zealous ibex
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lol, you have way more packs out than me tho ๐Ÿค”

ebon leaf
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true. Lucky, cause with my current progress rate I'd be on the street if I didn't lol

zealous ibex
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Ouch

ebon leaf
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eh, its okay ๐Ÿ˜› hard work from past me is paying off haha

obsidian tree
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I am thinking of making stuff to sell on marktplace, is there alot of people that buy from there or is it just not worth it?

ebon leaf
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depends on what you want to sell. it's a bit of both ๐Ÿ˜›

zealous ibex
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^

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It also depends on what you think is worth it

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I've done the math and have been working @ <$1/hour for the sales I've gotten, which is pretty nice for me, as I don't rely on this as a source of income and it's still (kinda) a hobby ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wooden falcon
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me as well HowToCompute

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I do it for fun and a hobby, and it's nice that it pays for itself

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buys me tools to make cooler stuff

zealous ibex
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Yeah, that's pretty much my goal too

wooden falcon
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when it starts feeling like work, I take a long break

delicate dove
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for me it is work

modern perch
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I think I'd struggle to make a decent living on the marketplace

delicate dove
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took me 1.5 year to earn back the time I put into the cave pack

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money-wise

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so now any additional money is a bonus

zealous ibex
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Yup, same here. I went inactive after InventorySystem (I did support it, but didn't create any new MP content). But now I've created 4 plugins in the space of a few months ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
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there's no way I could replace my regular salary with my MP earnings, but I value my MP earnings way more than I should

zealous ibex
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Same, even tho I've made barely anything compared to most sellers (some people have made multiple times my total revenue in my marketplace carreer in just the summer sales from what I've heard), it's still just a hobby, that may one day finance itself

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The only reason I really started selling stuff on the marketplace is so I could afford the greenlight fee (which I never ended up getting lol)

fleet garnet
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I built my whole PC just from MP, before I worked on phenmom X3 and it was painful

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so it is a nice bonus

delicate dove
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my first two months selling cavepack resulted in me being able to buy new furniture, strip my walls and have a pro stucco em

zealous ibex
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Nice ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

delicate dove
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but.. those where the first ue4 marketplace months. thats different now

zealous ibex
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lol

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The MP is pretty saturated & filled now, so I'm probably doing this stuff at the worst time in the MP's existence

wooden falcon
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yah, but that's particle money ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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dirty dirty particle money

zealous ibex
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Atleast I uploaded my stuff to gumroad too I guess (yeah, it only tooke me like half a year)

wooden falcon
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oh wait, caves

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nvm

zealous ibex
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lol

delicate dove
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hehe

zealous ibex
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His cave pack was super popular too....I think

wooden falcon
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yah HowToCompute, the early days there was less competition

zealous ibex
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Pretty much everyone I saw when I was starting like 1.5 or so years ago had the pack ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

fleet garnet
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I should of asked for another release date, sales are not going great for my new Plugin

zealous ibex
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๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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Told 'ya

wooden falcon
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you should have been here when UE4 went free...they gifted back what, $30 of subscription money to subscribers?

zealous ibex
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But in all honesty, that sucks man ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

wooden falcon
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to spend on MP stuff

zealous ibex
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Yeah

wooden falcon
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best sales I ever had

fleet garnet
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it may get better after the big sale

wooden falcon
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lol

zealous ibex
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On another note, how do you sellers handle going on holiday to a place with no internet? Set up something like an auto responder & do a forum post so people are aware that waiting times could be (a lot) longer? Or is there a more elegant way to handle it?

wooden falcon
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sales are gonna suck the next month

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I'd say just leave a comment on your pack

delicate dove
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holiwhattheducknow??

zealous ibex
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lol

wooden falcon
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how long is your holiday? if you're gone a few days, people can't really complain if you don't respond

zealous ibex
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A week, which is pretty long, compared to my <24 hour usual reply time ๐Ÿค”

wooden falcon
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time to release my inventory pack! with the tag line "At least I respond to my users!" ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

delicate dove
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few weeks ago I had my first holiday since I was a kid or so

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ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

zealous ibex
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lol

stark zinc
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How often do you guys get contacted for support? I'm kind of surprised not a single person has asked me anything about my pack so far. Essentially just got 3 customers say "great pack", that's it.

zealous ibex
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The thing is that I'm still a kid ๐Ÿค”

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Pretty often during the sale

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But I don't get that many requests

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Most weeks have 0-1 & busy weeks have ~3

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But I'd emagine something like a plugin to get more support requests

stark zinc
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Yeah, probably

zealous ibex
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So I guess it depends on how many sales you're getting & what you're selling

wooden falcon
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since all I have is mat packs and a mesh pack, I rarely get support requests

zealous ibex
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Your kind of seller deffo gets the best deal ๐Ÿ˜›

wooden falcon
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had one one time where the dude wanted to download my mesh pack for 4.9, but was throwing errors...turns out Epic overwrote it with a later version I sent

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so I had to rebuild it

zealous ibex
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Like you can sell it on any marketplace you want (even the unity one if you port it), you don't really need to support, don't get forced to upgrade etc

stark zinc
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What's your seller account, Necrophob? I don't remember seeing your packs.

delicate dove
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I had an email today asking if my cavepack works in afterFX ....

wooden falcon
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Necrophob30

zealous ibex
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lol

wooden falcon
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just search for Necro's in the search bar

zealous ibex
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If you can extract the meshes from ue4 it could I'd suppose?

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Not sure if you can tho

wooden falcon
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you can

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as fbx's

zealous ibex
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Well then I guess you theoretically could use it in ae? ๐Ÿ˜›

stark zinc
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Ha, you've got packs fitting your name ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

wooden falcon
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I don't think you have to support something like that though

delicate dove
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eventhen, unless afterfx can use the material, they are fookin useless

wooden falcon
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yah, I try to stay branded ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

fleet garnet
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I put my nickname on plugins only because I have no idea how to name them

wooden falcon
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lol, me too

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after that I figured it would be better to keep them branded rather than scattered

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it fits my bone mesh pack, not so much my materials

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they're not necessarily evil or anything ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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next pack idea Necro's Little Pony Pack

fleet garnet
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lol ๐Ÿคฆ

stark zinc
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An undead pony might actually sell ๐Ÿ˜„

wooden falcon
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I think MrNecturus already has that covered

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now...and undead Duck...

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look at those eyes...dead

fleet garnet
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that looks like a duck on drugs