can't you have a grown-up conversation without derailing it?
#fab
tacit python
ebon leaf
lol... the irony. I'm getting back to work. Peace.
tacit python
if your aim was to get conversation away from the marketplace, well, that was all you
ebon leaf
social fallacies are the words of a losing side in a conversation
tacit python
undermining the man does not undermine the argument
"A last trick is to become personal, insulting and rude as soon as you perceive that your opponent has the upper hand. In becoming personal you leave the subject altogether, and turn your attack on the person by remarks of an offensive and spiteful character. This is a very popular trick, because everyone is able to carry it into effect."
- Arthur Schopenhauer
delicate dove
"tutorial-esque effects" is funny because I made said tutorials.
badum-tss
anyways, there have been multiple times where I stated that the overal quality of vfx on the marketplace is very low, mine included!. besides cubit, abatron, and less than a handful others that is.
So if you think you would offend me with those words, you are wrong.
So while Bane And Luffy went on a very personal attack, I stand by my point of view that the tower content is sub-par quality, the repetativeness is atrocious and its creator should have done waaaay more with the critique me and others gave him, especially when he dares to ask that amount of money for it.
Now if you -Bane- where a bit more professional you could have given advanced critisism instead, that way I could improve my content. just like I gave proper advice in the thread where crudy/sharur showcased his content.
Instead you went on a semi-personal very easily undermining rant that lacked not only proffessionalism but lack of substance as well.
I also find it atrocious that Luffy thinks he needs to warn Bane for my personal interactions with both Ced and Cel while all three of us are professional enough to keep our work outside of our personal connections. (it wouldnt be the first time we clashed on different work-related ethics) and such comments have no place here, especially not in public.
Nowadays people are so easily stepped on their balls, if you dont like me or my comments, mute me.
Id be totally cool with that.
Trust me, Ive muted you too.
wicked pebble
๐ ๐
delicate dove
I also wanted to point out that if somone dm-ed me with "Yo luos, sup man? dont you think you where a little harsh?" I would probably have agreed and apologized. but like I said, nowadays people's balls are stepped on quite easily, instead of a calm reply people go all apeshit.
Do I think I went over the line? yes, somewhat.
Did I deserve the rant? to an extend.
But I am not going to argue with someone when their instant reaction is a "dressing down" to say it mildly.
drowsy hawk
If i added a blueprint system (UI) on the market place.. how can unreal protect me from piracy?
zealous ibex
Not really
drowsy hawk
one buys it.. and shares it with everyone for free..
and now everyone knows how to create a system like mine
zealous ibex
But it will actively try to hunt down and shut down people who attempt it
oak fiber
it cant stop it but it can look to find where its being sourced and try to help stop that
zealous ibex
So they cannot stop people from redsitributing it initially (as people get the files to work with in the engine) but I get the feeling they do their dang best to take all the pirates down
zealous ibex
(anywhere)
oak fiber
no clue, Im not you.
zealous ibex
Probably
oak fiber
but you cant hink of it this way
zealous ibex
As every way of redistributing has the same issue
There is no way to protect against it, you can only try and take it down after the fact
oak fiber
if you never make the product == no money. If you make the product == potential money. even if people pirate it, most likely, you would make sales.
so, if your overall goal is money, then yes, you should always try
zealous ibex
^
drowsy hawk
should i put things such as blueprint system on the marketplace or create a video game instead with those systems?
i dunno
oak fiber
I would do both ๐
drowsy hawk
๐
oak fiber
I would make the game first, as a demo/showcase and then use that to promo the system
drowsy hawk
anyway..
can someone unpack a blueprint system, if i gave them a packaged version as a sample?
to test it out first?
nova scaffold
as far as I know - no
zealous ibex
Yeah, if you pack a ue4 project it's pretty much impossible to decompile
oak fiber
ultimately its all asm, so, sure, but.... that is a lot of effort for little gain
zealous ibex
(atleast I assume you mean packaging it into a sample game)
So could someone have your back by wring pi in binary ๐
(as pi is infinite, it'll be in there somewhere :P)
drowsy hawk
i guess.. if someone is so skilled to actually unpack blueprint systems.. then they wouldn't need my projects ๐ฎ
nova scaffold
@drowsy hawk don't get discouraged by potential piracy. Quite a few people buy assets not because they don't knwo how to do, but because they don't have time to do it themselves - those would be a large portion of your clients
zealous ibex
Probably not
But don't even consider it possible
ofcourse it is, but it's so hard, tedious that not many will attempt it
And the ones who do, will probbly fail
As I presume you use BP's which would have to be translated from ASM -> c++ > BP etc
Which I personally havent ever seen yet
drowsy hawk
alright, thanks everyone - very helpful ๐
zealous ibex
np
ebon leaf
Epic can't do much or doesn't do much about it. At least from what I can say.
zealous ibex
True, but they can submit a DMCA
And generally it gets taken down
Especially if it's hosted by a 3rd party provider like mega,, dropbox etc
ebon leaf
This doesn't work very well when it's hosted in China for example, does it?
zealous ibex
True
delicate dove
unless its 1fichier, they dont care the content stored on their website is pirated. they even go as far as only replying in french, ignoring dmca's unless its written in french, and even then often ignore it.
delicate dove
for the marketplace people here interested if their content ends up in bigger games
https://i.gyazo.com/8e9b31623fdc86f631dabb93c9476744.png
https://i.gyazo.com/33a89a45200f625a105807c42c43ee27.png
folder-setup from Age of Conan
tribal jackal
@delicate dove ๐ ๐ฅ well said
gaunt flicker
Working on a large game atm, has a lot of mp assets in it
Afaik, standard thing to do
tribal jackal
I got some questions when it comes to the featured screenshots, etc.
What is the difference between "Featured", "New Featured", and "Thumbnail" ?
gaunt flicker
Thats still a mystery
They used my New Featured everywhere for one asset
They used my Featured everywhere for another asset
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
They also ended up editing my images for other things
soo
tribal jackal
I see
so don't do crazy edits to them? Just simple screenshots should be fine with maybe a logo, etc.
gaunt flicker
I think so
tribal jackal
Alright, thanks for the help ๐
Was just curious because I'm filling out my Trello and was confused when I was looking in the guidelines
gaunt flicker
Being confused when looking at the guidelines is common
tribal jackal
I imagine, some parts are a little bit confusing, it's like reading a contract
gaunt flicker
When I make a new asset, I just make it well, follow my style guide, and submit
And see what happens
tribal jackal
Yeah, I just think of it as "make it seem and look professional"
And of course organized
Ah okay so I see the difference for Featured and Thumbnail
elfin plinth
@delicate dove kinda curious how the grandpa Conan would look like
(saw folder Old_Conan there)
delicate dove
dunno hehe
delicate dove
@tribal jackal maybe ask @sleek egret how to showcase a ui thing package.
(she is marketplace team people)
tribal jackal
Good idea, @sleek egret Hey Stephanie, how would I go about showcasing a package that contains UI, mostly widget blueprints, etc. I was thinking I could showcase them in 3D widgets but that lowers the quality quite a bit. Any ideas?
delicate dove
tribal jackal
Haha, I'm still going through Pre-Production so it's fine if it takes a bit for a response
delicate dove
She generally replies quite fast, but weekend and all
additionally Adam Davis is also marketplace peeps
tribal jackal
@sleek egret I also have a question regarding fonts, if there's a font I find on the internet and the license allows use anywhere; am I allowed to incorporate it in the asset/package, or would I have to create the font myself?
lone mountain
@tribal jackal does the license include commercial use? "using it anywhere" can mean a lot of things
tribal jackal
Let's say for example that the font would include commercial use, yes. "Using it anywhere" was probably an odd term, maybe 'open-source', etc. would be a better way of saying it
Can't exactly think of the word atm haha
ebon leaf
You ideally want CC0 fonts ๐ but there's several CC licences that allow use in products like UE4 marketplace assets
tribal jackal
Hmm, I'm mostly looking for simplistic fonts at the moment; but yes, I'm keen on looking at the licenses, etc.
lone mountain
It's up to the license, not Epic
tribal jackal
Oh for sure, completely understand that
lone mountain
Obviously, if not, people would be spamming (and perhaps they are) non-commercial license stuff on there
I mean, not sure how Epic would be able to check up on it really
But obviously, to keep your ass out of trouble, you shouldn't do it
tribal jackal
Completely understand that, I used to do graphic design so I focused quite a bit on not screwing myself legally
ebon leaf
If the license allows it, then Epic will too as long as you are following the licence. Ideally, look for CC0 as that allow you to use it in any fashion even without attribution to the author (though that's always nice to do too :P)... some other CC licences prohibit use in commercial products, or commercial products where you are sharing the asset, rather than using it in a compiled means, etc.
tribal jackal
Oh I'd definitely credit the font, but I'd probably have to go with a license that doesn't require crediting, can't expect developers that purchase the package to credit a font creator
lone mountain
Others allow commercial use as long as you attribute to the author
So many freaking licenses
tribal jackal
Yup, it's terrible hah
ebon leaf
yeah ๐ hence why I try to just stick with CC 0 ๐
lone mountain
It would be nice to have some sort of regulation on them (well they do I guess))
Simplify things for everyone in the world
tribal jackal
Well if things were simple, wouldn't every government just get along. Sadly everyone has differences :/
Anyway, thanks for the help guys, I'll keep a keen eye on the licenses
If I have no luck, I might have to just create a font, any software that could help me in that that you guys know of?
ebon leaf
oh god I haven't made a font since th 90s haha. No idea
lone mountain
I am liking more and more of Affinity
I mean, all you'd need is a vector app right?
Or InDesign I guess
tribal jackal
Yes, mostly Illustrator, I think I made a font in the past but completely forgot the process
InDesign should have something for it, I'll look into it
lone mountain
Well Afiinity Designer, look into it
It's good and one set price
Just as good as Illustrator imho
tribal jackal
Alright, will do, thanks Victor and Apoisoned ๐
tribal jackal
I have Mischief but I'm not sure if that would be suitable for font-creation
lone mountain
https://www.fontlab.com/font-editor/fontlab-studio/ 650 bucks...whoa
lone mountain
"Industry Standard" now from the quick Google I just did
thorny zenith
is it fine to use unreal demo room from content example in my demo level ? (for the assets i will be selling in the marketplace)
delicate dove
yup
put all the content from that demo-room in a seperate DEMO folder or so
makes it easy for costumers to delete the lot in one go
ebon leaf
You don't actually have to do that afaik... but it's a good idea anyway
delicate dove
^
ebon leaf
though... technically it won't meet submission standards then due to file structuring XD
that said... don't think they'd fail it because of that
who knows these days though
delicate dove
https://i.gyazo.com/3a1d729c91cf74972229a225c6c67b04.png
still waiting for Steph/adam to tell me if its fine to place it all inside the marketplace folder, else I need to move it up one folder
ebon leaf
They probably wont be on until later today. I've noticed epic being completely absent in here over weekends lately. Aside from one or two straglers
delicate dove
gdc-stress im sure
ebon leaf
ah yeah, that too lol
delicate dove
http://i.imgur.com/IJnxZ3w.gif < epic team prior to gdc
delicate dove
no, someone from the brazil ue4 group on fb did
ebon leaf
damn. I wanted to see the rest of the folder haha
delicate dove
anyways, afk. house is dusty, and i am dustman. /me queue's dustman megaman theme
ebon leaf
(it stops at S ๐ still plenty of letters for marketplace lol)
delicate dove
oh no, i just cut it of there when screencapping the screencap
ebon leaf
yeah I'm off to watch a movie rated 20% on rotten tomatos lul ๐
delicate dove
was no more content
ebon leaf
ah okay lol
thorny zenith
Thank you guys for the Help @delicate dove @ebon leaf
thorny zenith
hmmph are we allowed to use file media source to show small videos during the demo level ?
@delicate dove
zealous ibex
Wouldn't that kick up the package size like a lot tho?
ebon leaf
I think that, as long as there is a valid reason, you could include anything you want. But as @zealous ibex said, you would want to consider the filesize aspects of it
ebon leaf
Well yeah, that too =p
ebon leaf
You could always link to youtube videos
sleek egret
@delicate dove Ping me for your folder structure question it got buried.
@tribal jackal: As long as the font is fair use, you credit where you got it from and you're not selling it as part of your submission you can use it
proven lily
Hey everyone! Don't forget, today is the last day you can vote for the January Community Interest Poll! https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/january-community-interest-poll
ebon leaf
Win awesome epic loot! Potentially ๐
wooden falcon
it's always nice to get a nice comment from a buyer
ebon leaf
If it's a nice or constructive comment it is ๐
nvm... didn't read the second "nice" int hat sentence ๐
wooden falcon
lol
it was a private message on the Marketplace forums...would have been nicer as a comment on my pack page though ๐
all I have there right now is a back and forth trying to help someone with an engine crash that I don't think is pack related
ebon leaf
lol that sort of stuff is frustrating to have on your page
thorny zenith
@wooden falcon trying to help someone with an engine crash that I don't think is pack related that moment xD
wooden falcon
well, it's definitely vertex painting related
and my pack uses vertex painting...he says it crashes when he tries vertex painting using my mats, and no others
but I can't reproduce the problem, and no one else has mentioned it ๐ฆ
hard problem to troubleshoot
drowsy hawk
(blueprint only) if i made a chat as advanced as discord's, would anyone be interested on buying?
quartz acorn
I think Discord would be interested in ๐
sullen lion
If you make a chat system as sophisticated as discord in BP, please tell me how you're so functional without sanity
wooden falcon
make sure you simulate discord's name completion shenanigans
dark matrix
anyone on , need to clear some confusion about marketplace assets ,can i upload my 2D artwork , like touch buttons, chess pieces, health bars, progress bars etc etc, it is allowed or not, need to know from anyone who got experience about this like already did it, or anyone who is willing to help me. i can show some of my work as i have upload on other sites too , thx ๐
Edited because some spelling mistakes haha sorry lol ๐
fallow plinth
@dark matrix it's not clear what you are asking. But with a simple marketplace search you can see that there multiple UI assets packages for sale, so yes you can submit them.
dark matrix
@fallow plinth i got 2D artwork, the thing is that i am new to UE4, and i heard that we have to make all those assets UE4 ready like they just run without any problem, but for now i don't know this is what i want to know that it's necessary to check those assets in UE4 as they are just 2D artwork they will work fine and i don't think there will be anything wrong with them
fallow plinth
is that ice on the ground?
summer jacinth
Water
fallow plinth
reads like ice
summer jacinth
The outline on the water is an unfortunate issue with vertex painting
Which makes it look elevated slightly
fallow plinth
@dark matrix you can't just upload 2d artwork. You have to import and thest them into ue4. It's best if you read the submission guidelines, and also check how the other UI packages are done.
it's not just the height from the floor, but also the texture and general roughness
summer jacinth
What do you mean by roughness and general roughness?
fallow plinth
a typo
summer jacinth
Ah, well the texture is just a darkened version of the non wet texture, and then made reflective
dark matrix
@summer jacinth awesome work, very nice looking assets ๐
thx @fallow plinth for the information, yeah i think i should do some research and learning about all this before going to Marketplace
summer jacinth
@dark matrix Thanks! Hopefully it will be released in a reasonable time haha
wooden falcon
I do something similar in my pack (for vertex painted water): https://cdn1.epicgames.com/ue/item/NecrosUtilMatPack2_screenshot05-1920x1080-c2ca98745f0e695bbf41d4105120181e.png
I use the height lerp nodes, though
summer jacinth
height lerp?
wooden falcon
yah, there's a special lerp node where you can have it gradually fill in from low to high spots, as your vertex paint
say you have bricks, and you want to paint sand
it will fill in the cracks before completely covering the bricks
pretty neat stuff
I think your's reads like ice because it looks like it has a varying roughness to it
which is a cool effect, actually
summer jacinth
Wow thanks man, I had no idea that node existed
wooden falcon
oh yah, it's awesome
summer jacinth
wooden falcon
just turn down the flow on the vertex painting while using it
how'd you fix the edges?
summer jacinth
summer jacinth
Its pretty similar to the lerp node, just it has the hieght input
delicate dove
delicate dove
hmm, "we require 5 screenshots"
I have shown all there is in 4 XD
gloomy bramble
Maybe when my survival game is out I'll work on one :p
tribal jackal
Finally finished up the icons, but I'm not too happy with a few of them, probably going to redo a few before submitting, have a look:
delicate dove
schweet
tribal jackal
Also nice! @delicate dove Is that the stuff from the streams or different elements? ๐ฎ
delicate dove
streams
tribal jackal
Oooh, can't wait to see it on the MP ๐
delicate dove
finalizing images and video now.
wonder how much faster the submit to publish period is now.
gaunt flicker
@delicate dove Last image of Linter :p
gloomy bramble
@tribal jackal do a sick keyboard layout one and I'll buy it
Lous do you do freelance at all?
I may need some particles done
tribal jackal
@gloomy bramble Hmm, I can look into getting some keyboard keys in; at the moment though, I'm focused on getting the interface style going
gloomy bramble
I like it so far
tribal jackal
Just getting a simple logo in as placeholder things for the main menu and stuff heh
Something super simple I did in a few minutes: http://prntscr.com/e5ezio
gloomy bramble
UI elements is what I suck at so if there's decent ones I'll buy
Try a lighter black
tribal jackal
Well, hopefully it'll be good; I'll be incorporating FPS and RPG elements so hopefully it'll come in handy for your project (if I'm thinking of the right project)
gaunt flicker
Doing integration or just art?
tribal jackal
I'll be making icons and widget blueprints pre-setup @gaunt flicker
Mostly the design though, I'll have some settings/options stuff setup for changing quality settings and that sort of stuff; but most of the actual functionality would have to be setup by the buyer
supple moon
more info at: http://forum.odintracker.io (UE4 Forum Thread) & http://discord.odintracker.io
supple moon
^^ @tribal jackal well consider yourself having another customer whenever your pack comes out
Oh and +1 for keyboard support
Perhaps through in joystick support for good measure (could be in a sold separately pack)
mind you that the above was prime for the actual Release Candidate HOWEVER I ran into a couple of bugs so will most likely continue wrapping things up tomorrow
kinda says it all ๐ http://skillprogramming.com/images/pictuers/bug_line_415_to_420.gif
but hey it isn't too bad so we'll manage
@gaunt flicker perhaps you'll be interested in trying it out now that the product is more well rounded
P.S. no extra command / shortcut needed for High-Res Blueprint Capture, justclick the capture button while having highlight window selected (Ctrl) and click the Blueprint viewport to begin the image capture sequence and stitching
tribal jackal
Thanks @supple moon ! I basically want to include anything that people find useful or needed in a UI package, so I'm doing my best to include a whole range of features and genres ๐
supple moon
@tribal jackal I'm curious what software you use? I assume the time tested and true Illustrator?
as it would be great if the source files were included but of course not necessary
(Personally I've ditched Illustrator and use Afinity Designer now but it still accepts PSD, etc formats so all good on my part hehe)
also will your pack be a static pack or will it be interactive via a loading screen?
dark matrix
@tribal jackal nice icons , good work, can you help me too, i mean i want to know what to do to submit those type of artwork on marketplace, i do got some too, please let me know ๐
supple moon
as I was just recalling that Tom Clancy Ghost Recon game that came out a few years ago which did that (countless others have too)
would be an added selling point if you added it
if you have no idea what I'm talking about than well it's quite simple, you provide the controller layout on the loading screen but with no key tips and than when you press in that input the tip / function appears
very simple to setup on your own but a cool little trivial thing you could perhaps do
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
tribal jackal
Ohh that's interesting, I can definitely look into it
And no idea @dark matrix this is my first Marketplace asset, so I can't really help too much :p
dark matrix
no problem , i want to know, how are you submitting your work
supple moon
personally I've considered creating a 3D keyboard and animating the keys in a similar way but that would be more a hobby than productive within a game
tribal jackal
In terms of source files... I'll see if I can, but yes, I used Illustrator for making the icons
@dark matrix probably an overview map that has a few rooms with different themes with overlaps that open the interfaces, simple stuff to show it off
supple moon
personally I've considered creating a 3D keyboard and animating the keys in a similar way but that would be more a hobby than productive within a game
as a controller tends to be easier to mess around with
compared to typing every single keyboard key out haha
tribal jackal
I thought about that Benjamin, but I was like "that would take too long modelling it out"
And then I'd have to do a lot more BP work than designing
Anyways, gotta get my rest for more work tomorrow; good night lads ๐
dark matrix
@tribal jackal ok so we have to make some kind of example with our stuff to show the use of it, we can't just upload it simple ๐ฆ
dark matrix
Good Night Friend @tribal jackal
tribal jackal
I think there are some icon packs on the marketplace, check out how they do it ๐
dark matrix
haha ok yes i got what you mean
yeah was thinking that i should send some PM to them to ask haha
tribal jackal
Definitely! Good luck!
zealous ibex
I'd personally design something like a simple picture frame model and make a sort of gallary, but thats just my 2 cents
ebon leaf
@flat schooner retwizzled from both acounts ๐
supple moon
@flat schooner with pleasure ๐
@ebon leaf lol ๐
Would anyone be willing to RT these by chance?
https://twitter.com/odintracker/status/826452596978225152
https://twitter.com/odintracker/status/826475414445027334
Hoping to get some buzz before ODIN Tracker hits the UE4 Marketplace ๐
flat schooner
@supple moon I did ๐ I am part of Odin Discord channel I see you put a lot of effort in marketing but I was wondering if it is nessesary to have Ue4 Plugin Instagram acount?
supple moon
Haha currently not so much
flat schooner
I think that social media marketing is more for a every day product
supple moon
Was going to make heavy use of Vine though but as you probably know Vine is pretty much dead now...
zealous ibex
Done ๐
supple moon
๐ป
@flat schooner but yeah for Instagram we'll be making use of that more in the near future as we have more images to show on a regular basis
We will probably share some images of customer (both free and paid) use-cases as ODIN Tracker will be EXTREMELY customisable ๐
Part of the reason we've been building a lot of it with UNG and custom UNG Blueprints nodes + general Blueprint nodes
gaunt flicker
UNCE UNCE
supple moon
@gaunt flicker https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/dc/0c/42/dc0c42b88d52c0f2f367fd375d7f5d2a.gif
delicate dove
< gets asked to send files
< already send files :p
gaunt flicker
Always send one 'transactional thing' per email
Multiple things in an email: Usually only first thing is handled
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
delicate dove
well, I did send two emails about it.
but the one with the files was send prior to being asked for them
gaunt flicker
Aye, theres your problem
Your attempt to save time is outside the scope of the pipeline
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Do not fight the ticket system
Become the ticket system
And send Dave green faces
delicate dove
well that wasnt the case, I suggested a particular folder structure change, and they wanted to test that. so set up the package with the folder change and send it
but yea, ill politely wait for tickets from now on.
wooden falcon
delicate dove
the blueprints, which are (as stated in the submission) not part of the package, became a reason of decline.
If stuff that isnt part of the package is rejected because its not following guidelines.. the ue4 showcase room epic uses themselves shouldnt be allowed on the marketplace either.
just saying.
gaunt flicker
Iunno what that is, is messy
If thats an Epic bp, is normal for Epic
MP guidelines are both stricter and looser than Epic content
delicate dove
yea, epic bblueprint. still, just like said blueprint also not part of the package I am selling.
but yea, lets waste a few hours cleaning up the content thats im not selling.
gaunt flicker
I had to clean up all the epic content I used
Made it sane
Well, wasn't told to, did so prior
If I left it the way it was, I know it woulda been flagged
tribal jackal
Oh shit I put that in my project lol, alright, I guess I'll do the stuff manually with just the static meshes
wooden falcon
lol, Truebone's new video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwtWP0mZd9w
delicate dove
anyways, its kinda like telling a car manufacturer he cant sell the car because the ad they posted on a billboard was using off-brand cohesive. :p
ebon leaf
@delicate dove Will you just bloody shut up, you're always whining
solemn atlas
O.o
I am just excited because my first props pack has been accepted and will be on the market on the 15th. . ๐
ebon leaf
@solemn atlas congratulations, link me it when its out and i'll buy it
solemn atlas
๐ Thanks @ebon leaf I will
wooden falcon
cool NoobTaco
tacit python
Fix legacy content that has wrong scale
IMO this should be grounds for rejection. I don't want to use a BP to fix some poorly set up asset at runtime.
wooden falcon
what's the pack of?
tacit python
@solemn atlas that's exciting. have you done a submission thread we can check out?
oak fiber
aw swwt congrats @solemn atlas
solemn atlas
hehe. . Yes I do. https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?133986-CorcraProps-Rustic @wooden falcon its a prop pack with a Rustic theme. Simple props to fill up a level.
ebon leaf
sweet pack, I've got a ton of ideas how i can make use of these
oak fiber
damn nice kit pieces and a ton of stuff
ebon leaf
Am I allowed to use them with only unreal or other engines as well? Whats the license?
tacit python
oh shit I love your color grading
tacit python
yeah first thing I wondered is "are the plank bevels in the mesh?"
ebon leaf
Kind of a skyrim or witcher 3 feel to them
solemn atlas
@tacit python Which plankes?
solemn atlas
Thanks @ebon leaf I do admit I got off my rear and made these after my playthough with SSE
Ahh, those are flat meshes ๐
tacit python
UE has an amazing LOD tool now, you can throw big meshes at it and let it take care of the LODing
so there's no fear to use a few more polys
solemn atlas
That is good news.
ebon leaf
@solemn atlas make sure that you sell them on unity, gamedev.net and itch markets, dont like an engine restrict your passive income from these
wooden falcon
oh yah, remember seeing your thread on the mp forums...pack looks really cool
ebon leaf
and if that dick @delicate dove says anything bad about them, tell me
ebon leaf
solemn atlas
I don't know about hat. But @delicate dove did give me some help the other day with a landscape mat I was working on.
ebon leaf
just wait till he turns and expects you to kiss his soverign ring as you cannot be in the same radius as the man who did the effects to a game that I asked pirate bay for a refund on.
delicate dove
https://i.gyazo.com/5eca2e885543388e768c86bf39a65a0f.png no clue what they are on about
ebon leaf
ohhhhhh so thats how its going to be luos!!!
tacit python
someone's shitty and can't take constructive criticism
and that was going on before I even arrived nudge
oak fiber
lol
solemn atlas
Well thanks everyone for the kind words about Rustic. I do hope it does well and people can use it to save time.
tacit python
no worries chief, good luck
tacit python
eh I don't knock the caves. it's a very good recreation of his native basement environment - drab and repetitive with mounds of unknowables.
oak fiber
you know you will
ebon leaf
@quaint cedar hey, you've come online at ironic time to luos has
you coming on the leash of your missus?
delicate dove
lol, ! stop talking to yourself :p
ebon leaf
@delicate dove give me my bandwidth back!!!
oak fiber
I cant help it, I am !
delicate dove
wheres ? ...?
tacit python
@delicate dove so can we stop turning this channel into your personal court now? nobody cares who you've blocked.
moving on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gebVj1c5jmU
I wish we had this quality of authorship in UE, I'd buy that in an instant
particles with a proper sequence
solemn atlas
Ok.. . so now a question. LAM or is there something else out there? Would love to hear about all the options. And not sure to post this in here or the level-design room.
tacit python
LAM?
sleek egret
Landscape Auto Material: https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/landscape-auto-material
tacit python
aah
solemn atlas
Yea. . thank you Stephanie
tacit python
it looks nice, if you're not super hot at materials I'd use it
$150 isn't so bad for the last landscape material you'll ever need
solemn atlas
Just. . reading some of the reviews. . And then seeing that the unity side (which I am not wanting it for but ran across it) seems to be filled with people who are not very happy. So before I lay down $150 I want to find good alternatives. . if they are out there.
delicate dove
shoiko has a free alternative
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?125307
solemn atlas
Well. . then that is a must check out ๐
delicate dove
shoiko is an amazing guy as well, if you have suggestions for it, or find issues he tries to add/fix em asap
tacit python
I'm gonna suggest that the single shoiko screenshot is misleading, I've seen more of it and it's low quality
quaint cedar
Bane and Luffy won't gonna answer anymore.
They were voted to be removed from the server for actively disturbing it multiple times.
solemn atlas
If its just texture and mesh quality, then I can handle that and replace them. I do have some nice materials I have beenworking with.
quaint cedar
Cheers
solemn atlas
Who?
wooden falcon
i'm assuming Bane
solemn atlas
Ahh. . ok. . I am so confused right now. . lol
wooden falcon
I don't think mods look at direct attacks on other users favorably
anyways, your pack looks cool, congrats! ๐
solemn atlas
Thanks!
quaint cedar
Yo, sorry. Edited my post
hearty atlas
Did someone say my name?
solemn atlas
ME! ๐
hearty atlas
I se
supple moon
Geez what did I walk in on haha ๐
Skimming through the above made very little sense
We're some of the messages deleted by admins/mods or something?
That whole Luos, Luffy and Bane situation seems to have come out of nowhere unprovoked โ
Anyway 'tis the past and can't be bothered drilling down much further on the subject ๐
oak fiber
it wasnt from nowhere, but the context was obviously edited now
delicate dove
Well, I do agree I need to reword my thoughts better, else it will turn into a "who will luos piss off and who will flame him with an alternative account today" show really fast :p
lucid osprey
we are not that different XDDDDD
except
im an animal.
noone knows if that is evil behavior or good
lucid osprey
well we do live in the shadows...
quaint cedar
Nothing got edited out by mods. The start of this is 2 days back iirc. I hoped they would have calmed down but they kept going so we decided to remove them.
solemn atlas
Good morning all. . It's coffee time!
wooden falcon
they seemed to be mad that Luos criticizes poor quality packs
which is odd, cause Bane then criticized someone's pack
delicate dove
i didnt want to touch that because that would just put more gasoline on the fire
wooden falcon
oh well, what can you expect from a Batman villian
delicate dove
i almost decided to get a batman account XD
wooden falcon
lol
delicate dove
but yea, nontheless. if I do go over the line, tell me. I am fine with that.
I know I can be a handfull hehe
wooden falcon
I feel almost like this involves Truebones somehow
๐
maybe the're TrueBelievers
delicate dove
i doubt TB would be as well versed as Bane was
TB would go IMMA MEAK VIDEO BOUT JUZ
wooden falcon
he was going after Kubold in his latest video
thorny zenith
btw guys who is this game true bones seen some video and he just talk bad about everyone
who is he ?
delicate dove
a mental weirdo who thinks its fine stealing content from others, and blames everyone who he steals from.. from stealing his content, and thinks the world is against him because everyone bans him from their websites for pirating content
sort of
thorny zenith
oh thanks for the info
ebon leaf
Yeah. Don't bother with the truebones saga unless you really like soap opera style drama and have a huge batch of popcorn you need to dispose of.
solemn atlas
Ohhhh. . I could use some popcorn!!
wooden falcon
it really is The Days of Our Lives
wicked pebble
Don't even give truebones the views. It's what he feeds from.
tribal jackal
Lmao, that's quite... Interesting
supple moon
@wooden falcon @wicked pebble @tribal jackal could one of you guys ask @delicate dove if he's blocked me?
no biggie if he has though I don't recall really making contact with him to even get on his radar for a potential block
anyhow I'm just trying to figure out if I'm experiencing a Discord bug or not (part of Discord QA Testers group)
delicate dove
i havent blocked you hehe
zealous ibex
what about me?
wicked pebble
He replied
supple moon
@wicked pebble yep thanks for the heads up, I can see his messages so I haven't blocked him either ๐
wicked pebble
Good.
delicate dove
what did ben say? i just blocked him :p
wicked pebble
LOL
supple moon
can anyone add a emoji reaction to that message without Discord shaking and refusing to add it?
delicate dove
<_<
supple moon
(not my but that specific highlighted one)
lone mountain
@supple moon if it shakes, means you are blocked
supple moon
lone mountain
@supple moon also, there is a bug that when people are offline, you cannot mention them
tribal jackal
Question: Why does it matter? lol
delicate dove
is there a blocklist?
supple moon
emojis = trivial in most cases
tribal jackal
@delicate dove Yes, in Friends, there's Blocked at the top-right
supple moon
still I'd love crush a bug if there is one for Discord ๐
though perhaps we should now move to #lounge as to not hijack this channel any longer?
flat schooner
Hey people
my asset is finally on marketplace
Can I ask u for some love? https://twitter.com/Bart_Kamski/status/829390553246728192
supple moon
@flat schooner RT + liked and looking good
I might pick it up if I ever get back to working on Knoll (RTS / 3rd person hybrid medieval game)
flat schooner
I hope you do then ๐
cloud bane
I always wanted a good successor to Age of Empires 2.
supple moon
@cloud bane Age of Nations came close ๐
cloud bane
@supple moon No idea how i missed that game. Looks alot like Aoe2. Thanks. I must get this.
tribal jackal
Opinions on this Minimalist pause/ESC menu?
Any tabs that are quite popular that I should add?
elfin plinth
if you really want to keep it minimal, do you really need quit?
like, should players be able to exit the game immeatidly?
in which case, couldn't you just alt+f4?
I personally hate games that keep you juggling through the menus to quit the game but not sure if it's essential on pause menu
oh right, this was #fab
@tribal jackal you should ask on some other channel for things like this
tribal jackal
... I find that quite inconvenient in terms of User Experience and also inconvenient for Console developers. So yeah, a Quit is fairly important ๐
elfin plinth
well, technically, you could do a submenu for exit, like exit to main menu, quit game, cancel
default to exit menu
it wouldn't annoy people
and would make the pause menu more minimalistic
and prevent accidental quit clicks
if we are just talking about UX here
gaunt flicker
If I learned anything with Generic Shooter
You need a quit button
Otherwise people riot
elfin plinth
really?
gaunt flicker
Aye
Better to add it in and let those take it out if they want
Then to have them have to add it
tribal jackal
Oh I don't plan on having that many menus lol; and if somebody adds a shit-ton of menus using my package then that's their choice ๐
tribal jackal
I'm trying to make this package applicable for a wide amount of developers, so yeah
gaunt flicker
But damn do I love them
tribal jackal
oh lol, I used to have a grid menu sort of for my other project, but I'm kind of going away from it
elfin plinth
just to properly exit the game when playing an online game, you have to 1) exit lobby 2) confirm exit lobby 3) exit online browser 4) exit online mode 5) confirm exit online mode 6) exit from main menu 7) confirm to really exit from main menu
tribal jackal
elfin plinth
it's as horrible to get into game too there, you literally have to confirm the autosave warning each time too
it's like 10 menus before you get to the game
gaunt flicker
That looks like a menu I was going to sell on the mp
But I never got around to finishing it
yolo
tribal jackal
heh
I might include some grid stuff, primarily for the UI for the RPG portion
But not overdoing the grid aspect
flat schooner
woooooohoooooooo my asset is featured on a first page ๐
supple moon
We're proud to announce that 
DIN Tracker 0.2 - Release Candidate 1 has been released into the wild ๐
ODIN Tracker is a suite of tools (Issue/Task, Capture, QA, & Time Tracker) bundled into an Unreal Engine 4 Plugin that is currently in development by Binary Sword Pty Ltd.
More info here: http://forum.odintracker.io
Discord Server: http://discord.odintracker.io
gloomy bramble
Any good grenade throwing animations on market ?
supple moon
@gloomy bramble I know a guy who may have some who would probably be happy to give them to you on the cheap or perhaps even free
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
(PM me for details if interested)
gloomy bramble
@supple moon pm me I'm on mobile :)
supple moon
hell if there is enough demand I might nudge him a bit to perhaps release something on the marketplace if he isn't too busy
supple moon
on the cheap or perhaps even free
would have to talk with him first ๐
anyway no need to continue the discussion here since we're already talking via DM
flat schooner
Ok so I was happy that my new asset is on a first page as featueed... At first day NOONE bought it. Is that even possible?
tribal jackal
I'm sure it is, it'll probably be a bit before your sales pick up pace, I imagine it goes like exponential growth, when people start noticing ratings, etc. it'll probably be bought more (just a guess, but I'm sure the fact there's no ratings must be a factor)
flat schooner
But it is brand new of course it doesn't have ratings, besides it is only sounds with very good presenting video, if u can hear it u can rate it.
ebon leaf
Yeah I don't think ratings matter at all unless they are bad or you have a lot of them tbh. In my experience, the first week is the biggest sales, but sometimes the first day can be pretty slow. Hopefully tomorrow will yield better results for you ๐
flat schooner
Thank you for cheering me up :)
ebon leaf
What asset? ill have a look if i need it lol
the game building sounds?
i would guess the 'problem' is that its hard to think of something to use those sounds for, the only thing that really comes to mind is some top down sort of strategic game, and you hear those sounds as you hover over buildings? for everything else they seem to specific, if i have a stable in some game, i really dont need it to play sounds of horses walking by 24/7
i mean, dont get me wrong, they are great sounds, just, i think your pack has very limited use cases
actually guess im blind, since you called it 'strategic game building sounds', so it sounds exactly like it should ๐
still, limited usecase is prolly 'hurting you'
I agree with that sentiment - I think it might be a specific use case pack that will limit it a bit. But people will find uses for it outside of it's intended use. I think it may possibly be more of a slow burner though now that I've had a look at the pack. Just have to wait and see though ๐
flat schooner
You are right. My first asset were Footsteps sound and I lived whole year almost only from it ๐
But footseps are thing you need in 70% of games
This one is very specyfic
ebon leaf
yep
maybe concider a more general pack where you pull apart those sounds (provided u can/have them seperate)
flat schooner
what do you mean?
thin barn
Is it fine/intended to make separate [SUBMITTED] and [RELEASED] threads on the marketplace forum?
I would like to make a [SUBMITTED] thread soon, but I wouldn't want the thread for my asset to be cluttered before it's even released. ๐
ebon leaf
People do it and no one seems to say anything. I would personally just change the Submitted one when it releases, that way people whoa re following that thread also get notified. But both strategies are fine.
There's people who make a thread everytime their assets go on sale, or they put out a new demo, or anything ๐ so having 2 threads isn't going to get you in trouble lol
ebon leaf
@flat schooner sry for the late reply, i mean like this, lets take the stable sound as example again, i personally would want a seperate sound for rustling hay, horses making small sounds, horses neighing(? idk im not native english, google said 'neigh') horses walking, etc, so bscly think of a whole sound pack for a stable, rather then 1 sound, so i can then use those seperate sounds (in combi with my existing horses and their anims) to make a much more 'dynamic' stable sound
disclaimer; im not actually workin on a game with horses or stables, just tryin to give u an example of how to make your pack appeal to more people by making it more general
and still, i do feel like your pack is neat as is, just trying to help you figure out how to get more sales ^^
thin barn
ok thanks for the info, for my first asset I'll go with 2 threads just to be safe. ^^ In the future I might adopt your strategy @ebon leaf ๐
zealous ibex
@ebon leaf That sounds like a pretty cool idea, and you could ofcourse always provide the mixdown for people who just want a whole ๐
ebon leaf
Yea, just something i was thinking when that bartosz guy was asking why nobody bought his asset, wich are these sounds for buildings that are pretty much specific to strategic games where you need some sound when you hover over a building, cool, but very specific use case only
supple moon
@ebon leaf I'd highly recommend checking out GunWorks UE4 Forum Thread as it's by far one of the most well put together forum thread's I've seen and gets to the point which is good
https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?117914-GunWorks-Gun-Customization-Interface
Which we pobably could take some notes from that ourselves considering how long our ODIN Tracker forum thread posts are hehe (we do make heavy use of Spoiler tags)
ebon leaf
that looks pretty cool, but not sure why i had to check that out ๐
supple moon
@ebon leaf fail... lol
I meant to @Mention @thin barn...
sorry for the confusion haha
ebon leaf
no worries hehe
thin barn
thanks for the nice example @supple moon . I'll definitely use the first half of the post as a reference for my own thread. ๐
I won't put the technical specifications in my thread though. I think that makes the OP unnecessarily long. :p
supple moon
that's where the spoiler tag comes in handy as it will colapse text within it by default
thin barn
yeah that would be a good use for that tag. ๐
tribal jackal
Ohhh the sound effects, my apologies, if it's SFX then ratings are just based off what someone would hear; the other lads definitely hold good points, I personally look at the ratings and comments on assets to finalize my decision in buying stuff ๐
zealous ibex
oooh cool ๐
thorny zenith
Guys check my TPS starter pack will be on the marketplace soon ๐
lemme know what you think ๐
zealous ibex
Ooooh looks cool
zealous ibex
๐
zealous ibex
Probably not
But that depends on your blueprints/code/assets inside
It does look pretty feature rich ๐
zealous ibex
๐
thorny zenith
so everything nooby xD
zealous ibex
It also depends a bit on which other stuff there is
But I don't think that is much of an issue as my inventory system passed revew and there are a tonne of them inventories ๐
solemn atlas
Nothing wrong with being a bit nooby
zealous ibex
^
My MP asset was pretty much my journey of becoming proficient with UMG/BP
(it's still a high-quality asset as I reitterated from the start up like 5 times)
thorny zenith
i will submit to the marketplace
zealous ibex
GL ๐
thorny zenith
hopfully everything goes right XD
i did fix every bug and i send demo to close friend to test and report bugs
zealous ibex
It probably will, your first launch is always the hardest/scariest
ebon leaf
just curious, why would you want to put your first work on the marketplace?
id be scared to do so
thorny zenith
well
zealous ibex
I doubt this is his first thing
thorny zenith
i'm working two month 24 hours on it
i did my homework on ue4
so i don't think there is anything wrong with my bp's
ebon leaf
not saying there is
zealous ibex
Yup that's what I mean, noone cares how good you are, as long as the asset is high-quality I think
ebon leaf
hmm
zealous ibex
Have you checked both submission guidelines and included a tutorial blueprint @thorny zenith?
ebon leaf
no reason to be scared though, if there is a problem Epic will let you know and you can fix it for the next submission
zealous ibex
(there are 2 submission guideline pages which is super confusing)
thorny zenith
i did check and read all guidelines
zealous ibex
Cool ๐
ebon leaf
scared isnt really the word but ill back out of this convo before i say something unfriendly ^^
zealous ibex
True it isn't really scary, but I did find my first submission am I doing this correctly? ๐
solemn atlas
Indeed
thorny zenith
@ebon leaf thanks ๐
solemn atlas
And when you get rejected your heart sinks. . But you go over the things they tell you, fix those, resubmit and boom. .
thorny zenith
@zealous ibex what is a tutorial bp ?
thorny zenith
i hope it won't be my nightmare too xD
zealous ibex
http://help.epicgames.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2592186-marketplace-submission-guidelines-preparing-your-assets#Blueprints, You must include an in-editor tutorial blueprint asset that will walk users through implementation, application and modification of your asset.
Their horrible to setup ๐
solemn atlas
hehe. Sorry @zealous ibex I want to make a wise arse remark about "document, document, document" But I know. . its a pain.
zealous ibex
๐
Documentation isn't that badd
But tutorial BP's
Worthless, waste too much time and are too buggy
solemn atlas
Well I would think your documentation should help with putting together the tutorial BP. . but then I did not have ot do one for a static asset pack.
thorny zenith
wait do i have to do one otherwise my system will get rejected ?
zealous ibex
You'll get through it
But then the mighty @abstract hatch will require you to do it later down the line
zealous ibex
I thought so
thorny zenith
i will submit and see what will happen ๐
tribal jackal
Did you make those animations yourself @thorny zenith ๐ฎ
gloomy bramble
Just picked up the crossing set
Going to have a play with it today
Hopefully it has the right sizing to ue4 char
Anyone else buy it?
gloomy bramble
Also, anyone know of a pack on MP with water bottles?
gloomy bramble
hmm
jovial thunder
I put the first actual thing I ever made in UE4 on the marketplace ๐ฎ
thorny zenith
@tribal jackal i mention it in the video i'm using kubold cover animset but i really make the cover system almost perfect :p
tribal jackal
Ooh I see
thorny zenith
guys question how people get away with selling mixamo animations on the marketplace with their system ?
thorny zenith
well i see an assets fully made from Mixamo almost 15 animations from there
zealous ibex
There is an official mixamo account/pack
But other than that if you have proof, contect em ๐
ebon leaf
Surprised mixamo haven't pulled that off the marketplace tbh
zealous ibex
True
They pretty much quit on ue4, but its still up
that reminds me, I need to do marketplace stuffz ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
How bad is it to put 2 things in 1 email?
ebon leaf
don't ever do it unless it's something urgent and you have a valid reason to tell stephanie/adam it's urgent and bother them via PM :p
zealous ibex
๐
ebon leaf
otherwise, you'll probably find only one thing is done ๐
zealous ibex
I wanna give a few people entitlements and push the price of my pack down
ebon leaf
To be fair though - they have been WAY better lately. I still wouldn't risk it though ๐
zealous ibex
BUt I don't wanna spam em with 2 emails ๐
ebon leaf
Yep. That's nto spam
ebon leaf
this is spam
gaunt flicker
Then don't do it, merge them, feel better, then get angry when one thing is done
zealous ibex
๐
ebon leaf
Epic asked me to keep updates to 1/week after I sent like 3 of them in 4 days XD
gaunt flicker
Aye, updates that frequent are just annoying for customers
I update every 3 months and that annoys people
ebon leaf
lol kinda... but my gumroad customers were happy with them... and the marketplace ones were complaining they didn't get them XD
I see people complainign that you haven't updated lately in your thread @gaunt flicker ๐
zealous ibex
I had to push a few updates fast as people requested features
gaunt flicker
One guy, and hes not complaining, is just asking when the next update is /shrug
ebon leaf
lol pfft. That's a polite complaint right there XD
gaunt flicker
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
ebon leaf
Is GS getting anymore feature updates? I was under the impression you were "done" with it now?
gaunt flicker
Iunno, we'll see
zealous ibex
Now I am writing like 2 line emails ๐
ebon leaf
haha XD
thorny zenith
i'm gonna start working on my new project climb ledge system ladder (prince of persia style) thinking to add wall run too ๐
zealous ibex
Wait if you send 2 tickets like seconds inbetween eachother only one gets processed by the system?
I wrote my 2 messages, checked them and then sent them off ๐ But I only got 1 reply from the zendesk system
wooden falcon
one ticket was sacrificed to the Queue
zealous ibex
๐
Now I am thinking, should I resend it or not?
I got a reply to the other one, but I think the first one didnt arrive
ebon leaf
Well... Adam is online atm ๐ could just ask him
zealous ibex
I thought of that just wasent sure to use adam or stephanie
@proven lily Could you please confirm or deny an email with the title "Price change for InventorySystem". I didn't get a zendesk confirmation as I sent off 2 emails just after eachother and now I'm, doubting if it even arrived at all ๐
proven lily
We received the request. Sorry for the confusion here, we recently changed our system so there's a few things in flux right now. If you need to know if we've received a ticket, feel free to PM me and I'll be happy to check for you!
zealous ibex
Sweet, thanks ๐
supple moon
Hey guys ๐
We'd very much appreciate it if you were to share, retweet, and like our recent social media posts announcing the release of ODIN Tracker v0.2 RC 1:
https://www.facebook.com/ODINTracker/posts/1640338306267852:0
https://twitter.com/odintracker/status/830122735649038338
https://instagram.com/p/BQV4ekHAaiD/
delicate dove
heh, Warren's work all got pumped out in one go.
supple moon
Thank you all to those who have liked and shared the above links โค
Man it feels sooo good getting it out into the public domain
It's been on and off development for the last year and we've worked our asses off on it so it's a great feeling releasing it out into the wild ๐
wooden falcon
picked any of them up @delicate dove ?
delicate dove
not in my current interest, but if its from Warren its probably top notch.
(ex epic employee)
wooden falcon
yah, I'm partial to the Hellish Ruins pack, as I sold him the high poly skull scans he used to create his own ๐
real nice guy
delicate dove
ooh,you have images of the high res scan?
wooden falcon
and he worked on Wheel of Time and created the c++ unrealed back in ut days! ๐
wooden falcon
lol
under rated game
don't have any hipoly images on hand (I'm at work), but I have some sketchfabs of lower poly models: https://sketchfab.com/necrophob30
was a little disappointed he didn't incorporate the deer skull somehow ๐
he originally saw my Bone pack and approached me with the idea of doing a hellscape like Doom. I was all for it, but eventually the particulars or trying to do a co-pack were too much and he just asked to buy the hipolys outright
jovial thunder
@sleek egret Was I supposed to have received my tax form from you guys yet?
supple moon
If you happen to share any work on social media captured using our free ODIN Tracker UE4 Plugin
We would be deeply honoured if you included the hashtag #ODINTracker as a way to both show support for the product and to create a means for fellow plugin users to find other people's work ๐
proven lily
hey @jovial thunder can you send a message to marketplace-support@unrealengine.com on that so we can assist you further?
jovial thunder
Sure
tribal jackal
Not sure if this is the greatest way of showing off widgets/interfaces, but it's the only thing I can think of ๐
ebon leaf
Why not just show them as widgets and have the player press number keys to cycle between them and that?
tribal jackal
Oh I plan on doing that, when they overlap the floor (boxes surrounding) in those exhibits, it would display the UI on screen
ebon leaf
ah okay. Nice
finite yew
can anyone suggest a realistic underwater post-processing texture?
maybe something in the market or free
wicked pebble
@tribal jackal I'm loving it
zealous ibex
@tribal jackal oooh interesting way
I personally just slapped my stuff on the players HUD ๐
gloomy bramble
Wtf is odin tracker?
thin barn
@gloomy bramble It's a Toggl plugin to track time spent on tasks. The creator promotes it a lot. Good example to follow I guess for our own assets. :p
gloomy bramble
Oh?
ebon leaf
?? Isn't the toggl plugin different? I know @heady moth put out a toggl plugin. Odin is meant to do a whole lot of different things.
heady moth
thin barn
ah that's true, sorry about the confusion.
supple moon
Haha was about to say that @heady moth ๐
ODIN Tracker Short Summary:
ODIN Tracker is a suite of tools (Issue/Task, Capture, QA, & Time Tracker) bundled into an Unreal Engine 4 Plugin that is currently in development by Binary Sword Pty Ltd.
Our focus is currently on Capture with Tasks (JIRA, Trello, etc) along with Time coming soon
QA is a mix of the above features + exclusive ones which all run at runtime and can be bundled with your game if you so wish
Great for running QA sessions or private / public alphas and betas
We're working another feature showcase video + release trailer soon to better explain what it does as it is apparent that we have done the best job at that ๐
ebon leaf
Wouldn't it be better just to link people whenever this comes up rather than a heap of messages that are more or less the same every time ๐
supple moon
@ebon leaf in most cases yes but there is already a link like 10 messages back :P
And since pictures and GIFs can say a thousand words
One of our UE4exclusive features for our capture tool which others don't have is the capture of high-res Blueprints in their entirety
Saves you from manually doing it like this:
http://m.imgur.com/XCGsa73?r
Our solution does this:
http://m.imgur.com/StQrDol?r
Supports 10,000 x 10,000 red capture in around 1sec flat
(The gif has the process slowed down a bit haha)
ebon leaf
Geez man... Remind me never to tell you that I think you post too much about odin, you just post more lol. XD
supple moon
But yeah that is all I'll say on the matter as this really isn't the place to completely take over a channel talking about ODIN Tracker ๐
@ebon leaf ^^ see above
ebon leaf
Yeah I get it... but it's not like this is the only time I've switched to this channel to see it full of more or less the same stuff you posted above ๐ But eh
wicked pebble
Very nice, @supple moon
thin barn
Well, at least I got the "The creator promotes it a lot." part right. ๐
supple moon
@thin barn ๐ well I do try my best by sometimes my best is 'too much' ๐คฃ
@ebon leaf @wicked pebble @gloomy bramble @thin barn what are your thoughts on me just constantly pasting the same FAQ style link to anyone who asks about ODIN Tracker here?
As my understanding is that would be more towards SPAM than just talking briefly (ish) about the product directly here as than we would be adding to the discussion rather than just promoting you leave our server and join the ODIN Tracker Discord?
(Trying to take feedback and constructive criticism as much as I can)
sullen lion
I'd just link to a forum post
wicked pebble
^
sullen lion
I know I wasn't tagged, but that avoids the potential discord promotion
Or perhaps your site
supple moon
๐
thin barn
Yeah that would be best. ^^
supple moon
https://odintracker.io there you go
ebon leaf
If people are asking questions, by all means answer them. But if they just ask about it in general or whatever, link away
supple moon
(Also has links to forum + Discord)
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^^ ok thanks for the tips guys
If people get shitty about the links at least it's the lesser of two evils ๐
P.S. full website should be online sometime next week
supple moon
@gloomy bramble Yes among other things but that's what the URL above is for ๐
quaint cedar
@supple moon Yo :D could you keep that message "spam" to your server? This channel turns into Odin Ad zone lately
Just invite them to your server in a PM and/or post your stuff there
supple moon
@quaint cedar yep sorry
I only felt the need to respond that way with picture + GIF to give a brief overview of how ODIN Tracker is different to @heady moth's Toggl Plugin
And to also confirm that the Toggl Plugin was not related to / was ODIN Tracker in any way
You may have all noticed that I've tried to reframe from posting "progress / feature" updates here in this chat
And have only mentioned releases in a more general sense of late
As I have taken on feedback regarding the SPAM from the past regarding otherwise
And it is no longer necessary now as we've got our own channels to do that + I'm pretty sure everyone here knows about ODIN Tracker now, perhaps more than they would like? ๐
quaint cedar
@supple moon Yeah, you are still overdoing it a bit. I would keep the news etc to your server and setup a news bot people can sign up to.
Texting this chat or people via PM and what not will only result in them getting annoyed
supple moon
@quaint cedar noted and a bot is in the works
Also I've decided to take a step back and get someone else in that I know from outside the project to handle things
As I'm clearly too close to close and passionate about the product, that I fear I may very well be hurting the product as a whole more than I am to promote it...
Sorry guys if the SPAM got annoying
Or if you've all for the most part heard about ODIN Tracker by now and really wish you didn't have to hear more about it :P
Feel free to PM me with your constructive criticism if you'd like (good or bad) but I think this channel has had more than enough discussion on my product so best not to continue discussing here anymore
solemn prism
No worries @supple moon - I do not mind
void fossil
So I'm starting to get in on this channel a bit more because I'll be selling some VRstuff on the marketplace soon. However I kind of need clarification on what's allowed to be posted here. I thought this was for anything related to marketplace but at the same time I'm reading past messages and it doesn't seem that way.
So what is the actual purpose of this channel?
Just direct communication between Epic and marketplace sellers?
hollow falcon
kind of yeah
void fossil
Ah okay.
So if that's the case why isn't there a dedicated role for this?
Seems like the marketplace channel should be more exclusive.
Otherwise if this is meant for direct communication to Epic then you get everyone doing whatever they want here.
And then make another channel or something for advertising marketplace stuff being sold.
hollow falcon
it's more an informal but official way to chat to marketplace staff. There is an official way to do it too.
lone mountain
That's false
This channel is for everything relating to Marketplace
including promotions
It seems some people are just getting carried away and some people are complaining
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
This is also a way to get feedback on potential products from potential customers
scarlet wave
exactly
lone mountain
There is also an issue with "conflict of interests" on some folks around here
When they instill their will in this channel
Marketplace sellers already have a dedicated place to voice their concerns and that's on the forums
So to summarize, the original intent was so that everyone, including potential customers had a way to communicate with marketplace sellers and vice-versa.
And that's pretty much what the topic says anyway.
TBH, I am more shocked that there is very little promotion going on. Even though there was a complaint with OdinTracker, but really, it's more that no one else is actually promoting their own products on here so the climate was dry.
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oak fiber
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lone mountain
I know you guys caught that
lone mountain
Nothing really
thorny zenith
guys check out my system ๐ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GESGCt4pTLs&t=2s
hahaha
lone mountain
@thorny zenith For sale on MP?
lone mountain
@thorny zenith Nice, almost grats
thorny zenith
@lone mountain thanks ๐
supple moon
@lone mountain I completely agree with you and I would love to hear more about other people's products on here
I'm just the type of person to usually want to start the ball rolling lol
solemn prism
^
void fossil
Well that's how marketing works. Get on this shit quick and the more advertising the better.
lone mountain
@thorny zenith The only problem I see with your product is that there is already one out there
And it's doing pretty darn well
So your price point is critical
For your success
thorny zenith
@lone mountain it will be for $39.99
thorny zenith
also it's manily focused on cover system
and already have +20 people waiting for it ๐
lone mountain
Have you looked at your competition?
solemn prism
http://i.imgur.com/6FfOnBy.png I am going to sell these on the marketplace. More work needs to be done.
thorny zenith
yeah i did
lone mountain
so you are going to sell to those 20 and then what?
sly prairie
I wouldn't undersell your work tho
solemn prism
What do you think?
lone mountain
He doesn't have to "undersell"
supple moon
@void fossil funny fact is part of the reason I hit the marketing hard besides the ovbious of a major release
is I kinda screwed up on our own Discord server by setting up notifications to EVERY MESSAGE instead of @mention so most people muted the server and missed the release announcement hahaha (they all know now)
lone mountain
But he just needs to be smart about the pricing is all.
solemn prism
More images coming ๐
lone mountain
We maxed it out
solemn prism
LOL
sly prairie
If the mp item is good I would even buy it if it's worth it no matter what systems are out there
thorny zenith
@lone mountain i think $39 is a really good price
lone mountain
We'll find out ๐
lone mountain
Oh nice
Yeah, if you can add something of value over your competition
You can price it alongside them with ease
thorny zenith
when i was making the pack now one has a tps pack on the marketplace
when im about to post it i see he's thread xD
lone mountain
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thorny zenith
but it's ok im mainly focused on cover
i really make it almost perfect
check it in the video
and check his cover system
lone mountain
Hehe
Well, as long as you have something better to offer, I am sure you will do good.
But just be prepared to be asked a lot of questions comparing both products
thorny zenith
@lone mountain thank you ๐
tribal jackal
I've got a tiny bit of competition for my interface package, but eh, still doing a fairly small price
lone mountain
@tribal jackal Just get your UI skills showcased
and people will ask for contract work
tribal jackal
hah, not even sure yet if I'll be doing contract work; maybe, we'll see
if it ever comes, I'll consider it
gloomy bramble
I could be expanding my team soon @tribal jackal ๐
tribal jackal
@gloomy bramble haha, maybe, if I have time to spare, pretty busy with my own projects atm ๐
gloomy bramble
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supple moon
@thorny zenith ๐ฏ top marks for presentation with your TPS Starter Pack Demo video
Also great idea having that little comment box with a reroute node connected just outside of it so you known exactly which input you need to hook up that animation to in the outgoing mode ๐
solemn prism
@thorny zenith That kit looks awesome
thorny zenith
@supple moon @solemn prism thank you guys ๐
thorny zenith
i dunno i put it on the marketplace and prepare everything the should email me to send them the package soon
btw that was my first project in ue4 ๐
solemn prism
ok awesome
gaunt flicker
Launcher needs an add plugin to project button
gloomy bramble
+1
thin barn
@thorny zenith that looks like a great asset. ๐ If I were you, I would have started the video with the action/shooting scene in the testing room and put all the text fields at the end.
Many ppl probably never get to see the asset in action, check YT stats to see how many ppl watch until the end. :p
zealous ibex
๐ yeah stats are always interesting, tho on my channel I think I have an adverage view duration of nearly 2 mins, which is insane
thin barn
Yeah that's nice, lucky you. ๐
thorny zenith
@thin barn you are right ๐
zealous ibex
@thin barn I upload a lot of tech related stuff, when I did unreal c++ tutorials it was only like 0:40 which was well...odd
thin barn
Ah ok, all videos I upload are trailers for my stuff, so I try to keep them below the 60sec mark so ppl actually finish watching them and get to the buy here, now part. ๐
zealous ibex
Nice, I aim for ~1 min too
ebon leaf
hey! Ive been working on HUD minimap system for a while. If you want, check out new features ๐ https://youtu.be/ajWSSuFcCf0
@ebon leaf looks nice ๐ I like the abilit yto set a waypoint - something that most of the minimaps don't offer.
zealous ibex
ooooh that looks awesome!
summer jacinth
Fantastic, I love seeing asset flips on Steam
I wonder if Epic has a policy against that
hollow falcon
theres nothing wrong with asset flipping. It's what the whole marketplace system is setup for. You buy assets, you make a game with said assets. Technically unless you have 100% ownership of models/assets, they are all asset flips.
summer jacinth
Not quite what I mean
If you design a game purely with purchased assets, you arent making a game, youre just piecing things together
And in the case with the link I posted, there is 0 custom content in that, and just uses things purchased from the marketplace
hollow falcon
yeah and if people don't know that, why ruin the experience for them by pointing it out? I say give them a chance, let them make a few quid. People only part with their cash for things they want. There is a refund system for anyone who feels scammed. It's driving business for asset sellers so it's not all bad.
summer jacinth
Because credit is needed where its due
And with scams like these, there is rarely ever credit given
Its one thing buying content, adding to it, expanding on it and using your own content along with it, but when you use other peoples content as the focus of your game, well that is just unethical
Not to mention when content like this is pirated and they didnt even pay for it, yet do an asset flip
hollow falcon
If they pay for it, they have the right to do it. I mean how many sales would you get on an item if you make it exclusive or "can only be used as prototype assets". If I make something and sell it, it's not my concern what they use it for.
if it's pirated thats another issue
summer jacinth
Thats not my point
My point is asset flipping
Which means just buying assets, and making a game out of them
hollow falcon
ok but you bought it. You can do what you want with it
summer jacinth
Its another thing completely to actually be a developer and produce your own content on top of purchased content
Well no, you cant do whateverf you want with it
hollow falcon
Well you can make a game with it. Several if you like
AAA studios reuse stuff all the time.
hollow falcon
I understand your point. You hate indie devs with no skills who put assets in a template and sell it.
summer jacinth
Buying assets with the idea of profiting off them
So using assets in a game is fine
But having purchased assets as the focus is not
hollow falcon
but that is what they are on sale for. It's the purpose of it. Not just as placeholders. Stuff to be used in games. If someone makes a game from marketplace assets purely, it's a reflection of their skills and intention more than it being wrong. If it's just to catch the few people who pay then take the money and run, so be it. It's not like top game studios don't do the same thing