blueprint

[odd ember]

yes

[brazen merlin]

we have our assumptions, and maybe it is - i thought it was multiple objects, but apparently it only fires once

i am thinking it has to so with the set var tbh

[hexed loom]

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[brazen merlin]

all good, coming from a place of frustration, totally understandable

[umbral ginkgo]

I fixed my cast and its still not working...

[odd ember]

yet you spent like 30 mins complaining

[hexed loom]

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[brazen merlin]

lol scroll up

[odd ember]

I was. what a fantastic specimen

[hexed loom]

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[maiden wadi]

To clarify this, you still need a correct pointer to cast.

[odd ember]

https://tenor.com/view/technically-correct-the-best-kind-of-correct-gif-17815153

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[umbral ginkgo]

I see we are working on similar things

[hexed loom]

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[umbral ginkgo]

Im also trying to fix a overlap

[odd ember]

before you ignite this bond of kinship

this is standard stuff y'all

[hexed loom]

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[umbral ginkgo]

execpt im failing at basic concepts

[brazen merlin]

basic doesnt always mean easy

[dawn gazelle]

I was stumbling all over myself before everything started to click. Once it clicks, it's second nature.

[hexed loom]

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[flat coral]

I'm pretty sure every game has this exact code in it

[umbral ginkgo]

Your probably not wrong

[odd ember]

couldn't possibly be

[brazen pike]

I have this problem too. Been using it for a year, really annoying

[flat coral]

I don't remember how I fixed it but i remember the top results for google were pretty helpful

[umbral ginkgo]

Should this work now?

[odd ember]

no

use the cast node

[hexed loom]

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[umbral ginkgo]

Should I use player character as the object @odd ember?

[brazen merlin]

lol, probably ruffling feathers, but i do a lot of my checks with tags instead 👺

[odd ember]

what do you think, @umbral ginkgo ?

[umbral ginkgo]

yes?

[brazen pike]

You'd have to cast in the first place to get thr player variable, so just cast instead of that

[odd ember]

hmm, let me ponder

[brazen merlin]

GetPlayerCharacter has a cast it in anyways, so yeah, just do the cast

[odd ember]

!8ball should @umbral ginkgo cast to player character?

[torn kettle]

@odd ember, :8ball: Most likely.

[odd ember]

well there you have it

[brazen merlin]

!8ball is casting the only method?

[torn kettle]

@brazen merlin, :8ball: Most likely.

[hexed loom]

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[brazen merlin]

when he's right he's right

[hexed loom]

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[umbral ginkgo]

But seriously though should I use player character as the object for the cast?

[wide linden]

So i got a Procedural ADS project and have no idea how he does movement speed could someone help been looking for 2hrs

[odd ember]

did we not answer that question already? twice?

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

(with the same answer?)

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[umbral ginkgo]

Here you said cast not what to use as the object for the cast

[odd ember]

did this not work?

[umbral ginkgo]

Doesn't it check if it's equal to itself?

[odd ember]

no that was your code

the cast node just casts

or fails if it can't cast

but if it casts fine

then you can also assert that what went through was indeed what you cast

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[odd ember]

widgets

[hexed loom]

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[tawdry surge]

Pry wanna look up bindings too while you're at it

[hexed loom]

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[wide linden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJQybMSaODc

[maiden wadi]

@hexed loom If you just want to see what those variables are, you can also PrintString them.

[hexed loom]

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[maiden wadi]

Yeah, Widgets. Also, Ew, UMG Bindings.

[odd ember]

baby steps

[wide linden]

anyone help me increase movement speed?

[maiden wadi]

Baby steps is putting it in the widget's tick. UMG bindings are just ew.

[odd ember]

there, done

[hexed loom]

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[maiden wadi]

This escalated quickly.

[wide linden]

What do you mean

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

no time wasted. basic javascript experience and less than 2 hours in engine. we're releasing tomorrow

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

I could ask you the same

[hexed loom]

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[maiden wadi]

In reality. Very easy once you know how to build. More or less just pay $100, do some paperwork and publish. As for actually making money, that's a whole different story.

[wide linden]

Yeah hard to explain im using a project there no state machine so i have no idea how movement would be increased

would have to screen share

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[odd ember]

maybe if you said what object need movement increased

[wide linden]

thirdpersoncharacter

[odd ember]

character movement component

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[terse elm]

hrm interesting. i get reference to my camera bp and i can get/print its right vector. however, it throws mad errors. so i do an isvalid and it no longer prints the vector. its like there, but its not lol

[wide linden]

lol nah man

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[odd ember]

what kind of camera do you have?

[terse elm]

its a separate actor bp

[wide linden]

https://gyazo.com/64fc7816534933e98ab6ded445b9ef4c

[odd ember]

there's your answer

[wide linden]

what i got

https://gyazo.com/c2d0a03a6c5ddbf82566a68eaa5d5b8e

[odd ember]

that's for animations

[wide linden]

set to 500 but nothing

[terse elm]

well i cast top it to get the reference and lik ei said it shows up in print but will throw the errors hmm

lemme experiment

[odd ember]

if it's a separate actor you need to poll for it

[wide linden]

in thirdpersonbp?

[terse elm]

im doing a cast to camera_combat (name of the bp), and get owner on the object

[wide linden]

or character

[terse elm]

guess im missing something else

lemme see here

[odd ember]

if you're not polling you're going to experience race conditions

[odd ember]

yes

[wide linden]

i have player movement in game just extremly slow

[wide linden]

let me check

https://gyazo.com/91d5d3eca78c3e6bb113a0ab1849957d

[odd ember]

.

[wide linden]

dont have a component for movement

[umbral ginkgo]

I have another branch that doesn't seem to function. Chosen one is the chosen actor of the class this blueprint is of, and component is the overlapped component in On Component Begin Overlap

[odd ember]

yes you do

[odd ember]

that will never work

[wide linden]

ok let me look around im 2 weeks into this btw so bare with me

[umbral ginkgo]

Why?

[odd ember]

an actor cannot be a component

[umbral ginkgo]

Ahhh

[odd ember]

and your component is likely empty

[umbral ginkgo]

ok

[terse elm]

hm yea not sure how to get this camera properly.

[umbral ginkgo]

Is there a pin on On Component Begin Overlap that I can use for which actor is overlaped?

[odd ember]

you're already using it

[umbral ginkgo]

So thats Overlapped component except it only works for components?

[wide linden]

im looking but not seeing anything like that

using someones project i bought fyi so looking around like a crack head

[odd ember]

before we go any further and to stop this mad trial by error routine: what are you trying to do, @umbral ginkgo ?

[umbral ginkgo]

Thats a good question

[odd ember]

then I suggest you read the manual

[umbral ginkgo]

Give me a moment to type this out

[wide linden]

yeah its only about the aiming

so nothing about movement or anything

[odd ember]

I don't know what to tell you

[wide linden]

https://gyazo.com/f6ab7d92fa12daefc1fc6e56e6c91c5f

fare il figure it out i guess

[umbral ginkgo]

There are multiple triggers. When an action by either a player or an ai is preformed, a random trigger will be chosen in the respective bp's of the ai and player which is assigned to the variable of chosen one. Both the player and and multiple ai can use the triggers. Im trying to make it so when the player overlaps with the chosen one, the bp sends a message to the player bp, and when the ai overlaps it sends a message to the ai bp. @odd ember

[odd ember]

why do you need all the component nonsense then?

[umbral ginkgo]

To be honest im still not quite sure what overlapped component does

[odd ember]

why do you need the component at all?

[umbral ginkgo]

to check if the overlapped component is the chosen one

[terse elm]

hrm need to find a vid. cant seem to get this cam bp and component inside it

[odd ember]

you can use OtherComponent

[umbral ginkgo]

Huh

[odd ember]

though why you need this in a component is beyond me

[umbral ginkgo]

Well what is a component?

[odd ember]

it's a vessel for logic

that you put onto different actors that cannot otherwise be contained in a hierarchy

[umbral ginkgo]

like I said, all I'm trying to do is see if the chosen one is equal to which component was overlapped by the player

But I dont really know how to do that

[odd ember]

I just told you

but I think you could just have a bool on a common character class

[umbral ginkgo]

What?

[odd ember]

like the type of thing you need to check for needs to be governed somehow as well

probably by gamemode

[umbral ginkgo]

Forgive me for being slow, but you made it sound like I shouldn't use the component (?)

[odd ember]

there isn't a reason to, no

[umbral ginkgo]

Well then, for what im trying to do as whole which I outlined up here, how would you do it?

[odd ember]

use a bool on the character

called something like IsChosenOne

then I would make the characters register with the gamemode, and let the game mode pick one of the characters to be the chosen one

I helped a person out with a tag kind of game some months back

you're welcome to search for it

it's the same logic

[umbral ginkgo]

Is there a way other than scrolling to go back that far?

[odd ember]

well there's search function

[umbral ginkgo]

Really?

[odd ember]

nah I'm making it all up

[umbral ginkgo]

Yeah I dont think the discord devs are capable of making a search function

[umbral ginkgo]

if only

[odd ember]

don't tell me you clicked that image

it's a screenshot btw

[umbral ginkgo]

I cant resist clicking any image

[umbral ginkgo]

Yes i clicked that

[odd ember]

well then you're on your way

good luck

[umbral ginkgo]

wait what

[flat coral]

@odd ember you're snarky today 😛
But I absolutely do not blame you

[umbral ginkgo]

I need this

[gentle urchin]

If MS Teams just had half the search box discord has, i'd be satisfied.

[hexed loom]

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[flat coral]

Can you parallelize multiple instances of the same Timeline?

[brazen merlin]

yes?

[flat coral]

Wait I could swear calling PlayFromStart restarted it

[brazen merlin]

honestly dunno what your asking/trying to do

[maiden wadi]

If you need multiple tracks you can use the same timeline. You cannot play a single timeline, and then call that again after 0.3 seconds and have a timeline running at 0.0 seconds and another at 0.3 seconds.

If you need that, you need multiple timelines.

[midnight blaze]

I feel like if I put down certain nodes then I will practically always (>80% of the time) want other, closely-associated nodes. For example if I want the Crouch node then I probably want the Uncrouch node. If I use Add Movement Input, I probably want to get an actor's Forward Vector. So like... I just want a menu where I can click some hotkey on a node and it'll pop up a menu of those most closely associated nodes to make it faster to place them. Does anything like that exist?

[blissful widget]

GitHub copilot or smart autocomplete for BPs would definitely be handy 😅

Can just drag and type out what you want?

[midnight blaze]

So many nodes have got names that are similar to others so it's hard to home in on exactly the right one sometimes. Typing something in and THEN having to scroll up and down pages of matches is the worst thing

Often I'll have two closely related blocks of nodes and they'll differ by like.. only one node. ++ instead of --. If I have one it should be maximally easy to get the other

[maiden wadi]

I cannot say that I've ever experienced that problem.

Once you have used Unreal for a year or so, it's pretty second nature to just right click the graph or drag from a pin and know how to start typing just a few letters to get anything you need.

[brazen merlin]

you can fave them 🙂

[maiden wadi]

For instance, if you want to increment an int, you just drag from the integer pin and {+}{+}{Enter}

[brazen merlin]

i liked that feature for about a week until i didnt, Authaer is right though, it just gets internalized after awhile

hold b and click for branch

you start to wonder about faster ways and find out there are 😛

[maiden wadi]

Hmm. I am wondering if I might ditch behavior trees.

[brazen merlin]

i just finished my ai lol, but im tempted to check out vis ai

[maiden wadi]

I've been struggling to learn to use BTs better. I get the premise but they feel so messy and limiting. They feel constricting and incredibly messy to me. I've been doing some reading on Utility AI. It sounds a lot like how I initially implemented my AI before I started learning BTs. Apparently some of the research also greatly supports it as a pretty solid design style.

Not to mention I support the idea of not having 50k assets in my content browser just for AI decisions. 😄

[ornate linden]

when doing a lot of "find reference and replace" actions does anyone else have the search functionality hang on "caching..." and just never resolve? I'm doing a lot of replacements right now and i've had to restart my editor like 4 times already

[maiden wadi]

Personally terrified of letting Unreal try to replace variables. I'd do it by hand. 😄

[quick lance]

I'm having an issue with setting array elements of a widget container. I have an array of widgets that each has a button with a Size Box child. I create a new user widget and place it inside of the size box - the image on the new user widget works. I then use Set Array Elem on the array to move index 0 to index 3. The image should move with it's parent but it isn't. Is there something I'm missing?

[maiden wadi]

Would need logic. It sounds like you're reordering an array of pointers and expecting it to reorganize slate child hierarchies.

[ornate linden]

also kinda sounds like what widgetswitcher is used for. i haven't tried your method tho

[quick lance]

I'm doing a drag and drop inventory system basically. Can't use a widget switcher

[maiden wadi]

Are you using DropDropOperation?

When I did that, all I did was have the button use an inventory pointer to call a function to switch slots, whether in the same inventory or between inventories. Inventory system would fire a delegate after it's logic was done. The widget would be listening on that delegate and repopulate the inventory widget then with the new inventory state.

[quick lance]

Yeah I've got the drag and drop functionality working for the simple stuff. It's once I do more than just change a texture on top of things that i have an issue

[inland stone]

i got a bit of a problem, i have a helicopter that its set up to use pitch and yaw from the mouse axis. The problem is that i have this code that allows me to free look around the mesh when i press the key input but when i release it the camera just reset to its original position and i no longer can control the helicopter using the mouse axis.

[maiden wadi]

Generally, I would caution against letting the widgets do more than ask the inventory system itself to alter things, and display the state. State display can be updated from a delegate after logic is ran.

[quick lance]

The widgets don't do anything, the problem is that when the system moves the widget, it doesn't appear to have moved

[maiden wadi]

@inland stone Is that the problem with the rolled camera? If so it sounds like you unintentionally added roll to the camera or it's spring arm. Just need to set roll back to 0 for one or both if that's the case.

[inland stone]

ok il try to see if that works

[maiden wadi]

@quick lanceI'm not sure what your inventory is or how you're handling it. But in general it sounds like you've changed the inventory's state, and just haven't updated the widget.

[quick lance]

I have set the array element, and it shows that the slot which contains the child widget has moved.

[maiden wadi]

ActiveAbilitySlot is a widget?

[inland stone]

@maiden wadi thanks that works

[quick lance]

Each of those slot widgets contain a size box that also contains a widget I created at runtime. the widget i created at runtime has an image. the image persists at index 0 instead of showing up at both index 0 and index 3 (in this case, due to me not running the code to remove it from index 0)

[plush wharf]

I am using "Async Load Asset" to load a 1 second Animation Sequences into the game. Every time I load a new asset, I see the game lag for half a second. Anyone know how I can get rid of this lag?

[maiden wadi]

But did you reorder the widgets themselves?

Normally you need to call ClearChildren on the container and then repopulate it from the array of pointers with the new order.

[quick lance]

Now i see what you meant. Hmm. Is there a way to reorder them without clearing them? The slots need to persist.

they're in a uniform grid panel. I think i can figure this out

[maiden wadi]

Your only choices are to change the widgets themselves into a new order, or to iterate over them and change their held data and update their internal widgets from the new data.

[quick lance]

I could set them inside the array and then change which column the slots are in and that should match right?

[maiden wadi]

Should work I think. I've never tried that. I usually just clear the grid and repopulate it. If it works, definitely. 😄

[quick lance]

I need to be able to cast my widget so that I can modify it's uniform grid slot. hmm.

[maiden wadi]

GetSlot->CastToUniformGridSlot

Er

That's C++, SlotAsUniformGrid

[stuck hedge]

Any standard methods for checking if an actor goes 'through' another actor? Overlap only tells you if they touch, but doesn't really tell you anything about how the actor leaves the other actor. They might back up, or go right through, etc. Is the only practical solution to put 2 collisions and see if they overlap the second collision on exit? to be able to determine where they exited? or maybe recording their location on entering and checking it on end overlap to see if they're on the same X or Y axis as entering?

[quick lance]

there goes my hero. it worked. thanks so much authaer

well, it kinda worked lol

[terse elm]

for some reason, having a hard time casting to my camera bp from my character. just cant seem to get the reference

[trim matrix]

@stuck hedge Doesn't EndOverlap give you a location ?

[terse elm]

camera placed in level. works as the set viewport etc. but just cant get a reference to it

[stuck hedge]

at least in blueprints those location nodes are not actually populated.

it's on overlap that gives a sweep result, but it always returns nothing in blueprint. End overlap just gives the other actor. You could get the location and compare it.

[blissful widget]

Also end overlap means they aren't overlapping any more, what would the location of "not overlapping" be?

[trim matrix]

The location they stopped overlapping at?

[stuck hedge]

In theory that would make sense, but they don't include that.

[trim matrix]

In theory if you think of it like a pencil on a piece of paper, beginoverlap location would be where the pencil first touched the paper, and endoverlap would be the location where the pencil stopped touching the paper (was lifted off or slid off the side). I guess there isn't a way to detect that though using end overlap.

[terse elm]

hrm so i have a camera_bp which i manually place in level. on event beginplay i set it as game cam, and it works great. however, im trying to get a reference to it in another bp (my char) so i can check the right vector of the cam, and compare it against my player facing. for some reason i cant seem to cast and get a reference to it. any ideas?

[stuck hedge]

I guess onbeginoverlap you could throw the actor and location into an array and on end overlap find that actor and their original location get the current location and then do some math to figure out if they went through the object or came back out the same side.

[trim matrix]

Yeah that's beyond my math comprehension, lmao.

[blissful widget]

You can probs sweep on collision end to get a transform

[stuck hedge]

A line trace from entry point to end point would tell us if the path touches the object, but since those are right up against the object, it might return a hit even if they enter and exit on the same side.

[potent wedge]

Hey guys, I've been relatively new to coding and i have been trying to get the distance between two characters and make one character move faster. So if the enemy is over 200 units away from the player, it runs faster to stay within 200 units then slows down. Was wondering if there's a way to achieve that

[terse elm]

hrm think i got it

[blissful widget]

Length ( enemy transform - player transform )
There may even be a distance node... Have you Googled this first?

[potent wedge]

i have, just haven't used the right keywords, thanks for the help

[novel rock]

how do i fix this

i set the player rotation to zero when exit vehicle but its still offsets the camera???

i think this has something to do with it.

[faint pasture]

Casting doesn't give you a reference, it checks if a reference is of a certain type. That's all. It's not a magic communication device.

[faint pasture]

Your camera probably is using Control Rotation

[terse elm]

i was casting to it so i could then set a reference

[faint pasture]

That's not gonna hand you the camera

how are you GETTING the camera?

[terse elm]

i got it with a get all actors of class, then set my class, saved it in an array of 1, get 0, and set ref

[winged sentinel]

I’ve been trying for a while to create a “node” system like this, is it possible to do this in bp? It consists of a blueprint for each node and it’s using spline somehow

But i can’t quite figure out how to make the spline be able to branch off like that

[spark steppe]

i think splines cant have branches

on a branch i would stop the spline and create 2 new ones

that way it should be kind of easy to walk through the tree

[tidal marlin]

Of course

[winged sentinel]

Interesting by default I can make branches off like in the image?

I’m essentially using it to make an invisible path that calculates whether the player is moving forward in the level or backward progressing

[trim matrix]

hello guys i added one mesh into game and i added all collision presets to block all

but if i place that mesh in game on land its falling down

why is it happening exactly? and how can i stop from falling down

[foggy widget]

@trim matrix i think you need to uncheck the simulate physic or the gravity . if it wrong ,sorry im also new to unreal.

[trim matrix]

@foggy widget where i can find this options?

even iam new to unreal

[brazen pike]

Under the physics tab above collision

[trim matrix]

ya find it

found *

[foggy widget]

is it working?

[trim matrix]

yes

[foggy widget]

How do i setup a sword blueprint to make it able to destroy destructible mesh? i've been stuck for awhile now

[flat coral]

Can anyone figure why this event isn't firing when I run into this object?

Collision is definitely working, the hit knocks it all around the place

[flat coral]

And hit detection is DEFINITELY working the other way around because my weapons can paint decals on it

[brazen merlin]

i got random guesses only

[flat coral]

Better than I got, which is "no fuckin clue"

[brazen merlin]

alright then... lets see

try......

wait hang on

so whats the setup?

both mesh and capsule collider right?

[flat coral]

No, just mesh

Literally just a Scene root and a skeletal mesh

[brazen merlin]

and it does use physics?

[flat coral]

But on a more basic level, yeah the mesh has a phys skeleton, it moves when I run into it, etc

[languid hemlock]

heya guys so basically i dunno why but ma blueprint doesnt work :(

[brazen merlin]

you try either of these?

[languid hemlock]

basically this rotates my box and makes it collectable but it basically doesnt do it :(

[brazen merlin]

did a tut show you this?

[brazen merlin]

Generate Wake Events?

[languid hemlock]

yup plus i think hit detection is kinda off :(

[flat coral]

No dice, neither helped. I think I need analytic anyways

[brazen merlin]

are you applying damage with the things hitting?

[flat coral]

No, this actor's supposed to already be dead so there's no point in damage. Wake events didn't help either

[brazen merlin]

you are both SOL 😆 cuz i have not clue

[eternal reef]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUk-BL-Iyug

[flat coral]

Well fuck now i have to go to sleep!

[brazen merlin]

eh probably better. maybe after the engine has a good nights rest it will wake up tomorrow and work

[flat coral]

This doesn't work either lol

[languid hemlock]

oki thankies :3

[brazen merlin]

what if you turn on overlap lol?

[flat coral]

Already tried it, no effect

[brazen merlin]

i feel like there's some kind of nuance when it uses physics

[flat coral]

I'm not fucking myself with these calls am i?

[brazen merlin]

if you disable it does it do hit?

[flat coral]

I've tried changing the blend weight to 1 (jellyfish occurs but no hit event) but gotta be honest the other params are french to me

except I kinda know french

Deleted the even, still no dice.

[brazen merlin]

i dunno, try a clean bp

[flat coral]

Will tomorrow. This is pretty damn clean tho

[rough cedar]

anyone have a good way to spawn a character from my existing character and play an animation montage on the spawned one? Im doing a quick simple test and this doesnt work. the character just spawns but no anim

also is there a way to do this all from within a character or does it have to be done in the level bp?

how can i do it?

[timber knoll]

Exactly the same way

For your anim montage have you set it all up properly?

Including the defaultslot in your animBP

[rough cedar]

ah i was using the sample character and i dont think the blend per bone was setup on it

ill set it up really quick

i have it setup on my player character properly can i just spawn another one of those to test this?

nah didnt work, just spawned the character

oh nvm that worked!

yeah it was on the wrong slot. thanks!

[languid hemlock]

i watched their video and hmm the cube still doesnt rotates around its own axis :(

but it atleast rotates :p

[hollow granite]

Hello everyone ^^ Right now i am working on a garden builder game for a jam. For the game i use a game-clock and i speed up/speed down that clock with timedilation. When the game is speed down i get this weird blur effect when the player moves around. My guess was its because the camera moves to fast for the speeddown time. Any way to turn that effect off or do i have to also make the player move in slowmo? Thanks for you help ^^

Also one more question, i plan on having a dynamic shadow texture that calculates information how much sun falls on that spot averaged over a day. Any ideas/resources how i can calculate such a texture efficently or access the engine calculations for shadows?

[hollow granite]

Thank you ^^ yup turning motion blur off got rid of it. Will play around with it later if its ok when the strenght is reduced. Never a fan of motion blur in games generally.

[crude dew]

Hi guys how would you stop a component from being affected by the rotating movement component please?

I have this as a master template for items but i dont want the sword text render to rotate only the itemmesh

[hollow granite]

couldn't you just use a generic scene-component as parent then have the staticMesh and the text each be child of scenecomponent, then you should be able to rotate them seperatly

[crude dew]

Ahh i,ll try it ty

Still roates the text

[trim matrix]

hi! i got a nice procedural wall spline, but my wall mesh need to be changed for 90 degrees, or i have to change something in the BP, is there any soul who can help me with that ?

[wild turret]

Hi all, I have several Niagara systems in a level that I want to manipulate with an input from the player when they are within a certain distance.

Is there a way to add a niagara system within a certain range of the player to an array in the player BP, and then set a niagara variable for all systems within that array on a button input event?

An example would be falling leaves from different trees. Falling leaf systems within range of a slam shockwave attack would be added to the array, and then have their point attraction force (located on the character) modified on the attack input so that leaves from those systems would be affected by an outward force from the player.

TIA 🙂

[odd ember]

you'd have to query them somehow

the simplest way is just having collisions for whatever actors are close enough to the player that they need to show particles

player enters their collision, they register themselves to the player, particles activate as needed

[wild turret]

Hmmm, not so much about showing particles, they will be visible regardless, it's more about whether specific systems can be affected by player actions. I'll keep digging.

[odd ember]

the setup remains the same

if it's a slam from a shockwave making leaves fall, then you still need a collision for the shockwave interacting with a collision from the tree, or whatever is dropping leaves

[tawdry mural]

will it make any difference in performance if you turn of "start with tick enabled" in every blueprint that doesnt have any tick logic?

[odd ember]

yes

[tawdry mural]

why they didn't make it off by the default

[odd ember]

good question

I'd love an option for that

[trim matrix]

[hollow granite]

any reason you are using the rotationMovement component specifically? You could just have a addLocalRotation BP on the eventTick with a generic amount or 10 degrees or with variable. Not sure if you can specify components with rotationMovement-Component

[crude dew]

ahh ok ty

i thought it was easier to use the rotation movemennt component but this might be a better way if i want to specify components.

[potent wedge]

is there an easier way to actually change the run speed comparative to distance or does this work?

[bitter tundra]

Setup a collision channel for your VFX in project settings 🤙

Create a bp for said channel and on overlap with whatever parameters you need

[odd ember]

components adhere to actor, not to other individual components

[runic parrot]

Hi! is there any way to check the size in KB of one array live?

[burnt oracle]

I partially understand what I need to do, but not necessarily how to (exactly)
I have a relative offset (that is generated) for an animation (FTransform AnimT)
I need to get the world location of a socket on a static mesh component both before and after applying this transform
the problem is that I'm doing things conditionally so I can't just getSocketLocation(), AddOffset(), getSocketLocation()
I need to correctly calculate the position of the socket as if AnimT was applied to the mesh that the socket is on

[runic parrot]

make a method to calculate the position with the offset?

[earnest tangle]

This is probably possible to calculate in C++ but not sure if you can do this in BP's, although if you have some specific kind of data type like numbers or strings it might be possible to estimate it

[runic parrot]

it's all text and numbers

when you spawn the actor, you have a "owner" reference you can link

i don't know how your system is setup, but to cast an actor on each projectile sounds costly

i would pass the base class and play with interfaces so you can send generic messages

[earnest tangle]

Depends on number of projectiles being shot. Interface calls aren't any cheaper than casts

[runic parrot]

oh, i tought they were way more cheaper

[earnest tangle]

It kinda depends, they can be under some circumstances (eg. when some assets haven't been loaded into memory, they can avoid loading them)

Anyway, unless he's shooting a fairly ridiculous number of projectiles, casting it should not be an issue

You could create some variables to control those kinds of things on the projectile, and then set expose on spawn

This would allow you to set them directly on the spawn node

[runic parrot]

base class of Weapon would work nice in here.
With that model you just mentioned you can do something like Projectile (Owner) --> Get damage.
and each subclass of the baseclass is going to return a diferent value

BaseWeapon - GunShut (GetDamage) -> 10
- Sniper (GetDamage -> 90

[earnest tangle]

Yeah, it would also make it quite flexible and avoid a dependency to the gun class in general :)

Nah it doesn't do any casting in the background, basically when you spawn it, it'll just set the variable values before BeginPlay and such are called

[runic parrot]

yeah, that makes sense too

[winged sentinel]

I see thank you

[gentle urchin]

isnt it just interp to ?

FInterp*

[velvet forum]

And this how to use
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DsgnAtvzZHg

[thorny rover]

Hi, is it somehow possible to change the center X and Y values of touch interface using blueprints?
I would like to set those values at beginplay

[hexed loom]

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[gentle urchin]

Wrong input scale?

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

I have no clue what I am looking at

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

multiply scale value by -1?

[hollow granite]

ok kinda stuck on a beginner problem, i have an array of vectors and want to multiply all vectors by a float. I use a for each loop but i dont find an elegant way to update each vector to its new value. Any tips?

[odd ember]

show code

[hollow granite]

i just thought up a solution with getting the vector by ref afterwards and then updating that ref. But is there a more elegant way than this?

[hexed loom]

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[tidal marlin]

What meens this?

[earnest tangle]

string pulling is part of the pathfinding algorithm, I don't remember what it specifically was

if you google for "navigation string pulling" you'll probably find an explanation

[novel rock]

I don't know what that means, how do i use that to fix it?

[blissful widget]

Found a graphical explanation -

From https://www.gamedev.net/tutorials/programming/artificial-intelligence/navigation-meshes-and-pathfinding-r4880/

[crude dew]

@peak wedge Thanks!

[odd ember]

wasnt the issue that your left and right were inverted?

[hexed loom]

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[runic parrot]

Hi! can anyone think of a better way to do this?
Without array/map? (multiplayer)

[odd ember]

what do you mean inverted?

[maiden wadi]

Backwards

[odd ember]

that's what I thought

but apparently not

[odd ember]

impossible to answer. what are you intending to do?

[runic parrot]

Storing a ST with info, but the amount of st of the same type i can store should be dynamic if posible, without using arrays/maps.

[odd ember]

what's ST?

[runic parrot]

oh sorry, a structure type (what exactly the structure definition is should be irrelevant in this case)

[odd ember]

why aren't these structs on the character classes?

[runic parrot]

need them to be only data that can be overwriten

they were initially on the character class, but i'm moving them to just pure data for efficiency's sake

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

sounds like it's not very efficient with your new way?

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

then it's not that code

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

I don't know where the code is for rotating the character

[runic parrot]

it's on the bigger picture, just trying to figurate out a better way to store a dynamic amount of Structure type data.
With a bunch of variables works fine, but if it can be dyanmic it's better.

[odd ember]

but it isn't the movement code

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

I know it's not where the movement is

because the screenshot shows nothing that would rotate it

[odd ember]

I mean generally structs aren't supposed to be dynamic, especially not in BP

[runic parrot]

the struct is not what should be dynamic, but the number of variable of Struct Type i have acess to.
I'm trying to find a way to imitate an Array, so later on i can populate it with N amount of ST type data.

[odd ember]

so a data table?

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

it's the direction you move in

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

I'm telling you it's not that code

it's not

the input mapping gives an axis value

that's a float

not a direction

[runic parrot]

can you hold a data table as a variable on UE4? o.o
i'm gonna check on that

[odd ember]

data tables are static types... so you can reference it at any time

no need for variables even

just use GetTableRow and specify the data table

maybe it is GetDataTableRow 🤔

[runic parrot]

oh yeah, it's the same behavior of the static datable, it's of no use than. The Info on the ST types is going to change.

[odd ember]

well then the structs are dynamic

[runic parrot]

i guess i'm just going to go with the multiple variables way and make a switch to point to each one

[odd ember]

which is going to cause you issues anyhow

structs are just copies of data

so they should be used as static data and then funneled into individual variables

in BP that is

[runic parrot]

what i'm trying to do is just store character information on each of those variables of ST data. the character is going to be different on each one

what i was trying to do is to get a Dynamic number of ST type variables so i can populate them. So i don't have a fixed amount of variables on my class

sorry if it was confusing

[odd ember]

I would have the character data in the character class

otherwise you're violating OOP

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

so set -720 to 720

[runic parrot]

kind of, it's for offline interactions so i can save creating the character actor class on each new interaction

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

untick the checkbox and see if it matters at all

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

sounds like something you should be doing in cpp tbh. but in either case if you're violating OOP you're on your own. it's a lawless wasteland then

[odd ember]

try setting 720 to something like 180

[runic parrot]

it's for the prototype, don't worry : P thanks for the help!

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

how does it rotate wrong?

on which axis?

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

can you show the rotation axis?

[hexed loom]

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[runic parrot]

can't you just change the numbers on different direction until you get the one you desire? it seems like the problem is not on the code logic, but rather on your assumptions of what the current state of your actor are at that moment.

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

what does 90 do?

so it's just the start?

not while playing?

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

have you tried 45?

actually nevermind

set it back to what it was

720 or whatever

it's not there

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

try to tick Use Controller Desired Rotation

[hexed loom]

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[runic parrot]

but if you press left and right, it does move in opposite directions?

[brazen merlin]

so im just stepping in here, but looking at this, is your mesh facing the right direction?

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

so once you start moving everything is OK?

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

have you tried rotating the mesh inside of the actor 180 degrees?

[hexed loom]

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[brazen merlin]

so when was this last working correctly? before the new mesh?

[hexed loom]

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[brazen merlin]

uninstall the engine then, i guess engine is broken

epic f****d up

[odd ember]

nah

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

was it still broken?

or what happened?

[hexed loom]

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[odd ember]

I doubt it

if it was a genuine bug more people would have this issue

[runic parrot]

agree, most likely you are missing something in the logic. Try following one tutorial about that from scratch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WowSx-e4UjE

[tawdry surge]

Switch on int based on index number would be quickest

Set the delay variable with the switch and then converge the logic afterwards

[runic parrot]

or if you have a variable on player that determinates the delay, put a "Select" on the delay length

[brazen merlin]

sounds hacky

[coarse orbit]

Guys can you make a macrolibrary and make a macro with self ref in it then put it in another blueprint and save? mine gives me error and refuses to save although it works as intented

"Can't save "Asset directory": Graph is linked to private object(s) in an external package.
External Object(s):
PrintString

Try to find the chain of references to that object (may take some time)?"

[tawdry surge]

Well the proper way would be to have a member variable inside each player and run it off that. Hacky is quick and easy tho

[brazen merlin]

might be better to ask or explain what you are trying to do entirely than this specific thing, it doesnt make sense right now

[tawdry surge]

I just said player because you said an array of players..
If you want each particular mesh to have a specific delay time you'll need to make a class and set a variable.
If not, then the hacky way will work just fine

[brazen merlin]

how are you moving them?

[wide linden]

Anyone know away to make this is not?

https://gyazo.com/d5d1a61f79dd6394fdb98eb3693d796a

[twilit gull]

how can i get nearest floor to the actor position?
i guess i need findfloor for that, but i cant figure it out how to use it properly

[wide linden]

trying to release aim

nvm

got it

had to make aim boolen

https://gyazo.com/7ba8a6503b0b078b7d3bc47ed084abaa

if anyone was curious how i did it

[brazen merlin]

so how many meshes and because they are moving, what are they to do? Move from point A to B? Do they arrive at the same time? Do they take the same time to travel, therefore offset movement? Sounds like tick + set loc? What the current array/loop setup?

[wide linden]

ok nvm can still sprint ads

mgmm

mhmm

anyone one know how to stop sprint while ads

[tawdry surge]

@trim matrix first response after you asked the question is the hacky way

[wide linden]

so right now i can glitch it hold ads then tap sprint and you sprint

[brazen merlin]

then i have no clue until i actually see what the current state is. i.e. the bp. That all sounds more convoluted than your initial question

[tidal marlin]

Hello again. And where i can read more about navmesh and pathfinder and how it work in UE4. I now base (Settings, Navfilter, Invoker, EQS and ect) but i want to know how it works in UE4 more deeper.

[remote meteor]

findfloor function from your character movement component, place your capsule collision world location in it, break the hit result and check for what you need

or you can always linetrace downwards vertically.

[tidal marlin]

Pls, not documentation. I've already read it from cover to cover))

[remote meteor]

at your sprint input event, you want to check whether if you can sprint

[tidal marlin]

I don't understand))
Sorry.

[brazen merlin]

guy who does a lot of navmesh work, i forget his name, but he has a website with a bunch of great stuff

[wide linden]

https://gyazo.com/f6178da6ae1947735e5c6d3ae4cf83ed https://gyazo.com/54c5de1453dfd23e33c9a6b326fca82a

[brazen merlin]

you can also check the github and look into recastnavigation

[remote meteor]

yeh, before you startsprint

you want to check for isAim

if true, dont sprint

[wide linden]

ahhh

that makes sense

[remote meteor]

hence "you cant sprint when you ads"

[vapid peak]

Anyone know why I can't change to alternate viewmodes (unlit/lighting only) in standalone game?

I'm trying to use the console command viewmode unlit but nothing happens

[wide linden]

mhmm ive tried two different things didnt work

[tidal marlin]

Interesting.
Pls, if you remember the name of that guy, tell me

[wide linden]

https://gyazo.com/a9f2cbdc554b8eddd48c46073abe756e

ive tried with isaim set aswell

[remote meteor]

uh

[brazen merlin]

can you kill the attachments?

[remote meteor]

a branch node

and you place your is aim boolean into it

[maiden wadi]

@brazen merlin Tom Looman has a lot of stuff like that?

[wide linden]

which attachments

let me try that

[tidal marlin]

You cant if i all right undestand

Mayby you can find something interesting in Buffer Visualisation and use in postprocess.

[brazen merlin]

Wha? Tom looman wasnt who i was thinking of for navmesh. Its finnish guy.

[wide linden]

https://gyazo.com/0bf5609429bba559b91c2e9b0493ad4f

ok so now i cant sprint let me mess with it abit

tysm

[rigid fractal]

is there any node to change the graphics quality?

[tidal marlin]

Base color maybe
@vapid peak

[remote meteor]

all inside here

[rigid fractal]

ah ty

[remote meteor]

you need to apply after settings, make sure to read the node descriptions

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/TestingAndOptimization/PerformanceAndProfiling/Scalability/ScalabilityReference/
and this

[tawdry surge]

@trim matrix

[twilit gull]

my Z is always on the ground and spawn actor at this Z spawns it under the ground

[tawdry surge]

top is switch bottom is auto with random number in range

[brazen merlin]

Mikko Mononen

[remote meteor]

😉

and when you spawns, make sure to use

[twilit gull]

this is towerbuilding preview and it has no collisions

[odd ember]

or just a select node

[remote meteor]

oh then you probably will want to + Z axis manually if you dont have collision information

or you can make sure your preview actor lowest point is at the origin

[twilit gull]

hmmm, okay ty 🙂

i'll try to

[remote meteor]

assuming the box is your tower and the circle is your actor's origin

[twilit gull]

hmmm, on the diagonal actor it goes weird

though i get hit location

[remote meteor]

cant really see whats going on, diagonal as in?

btw findfloor is only usable for actor with character movement component i believe, how are you using it?

[flat coral]

Back again, still losing my mind over colliders not firing hit events. I've got a brand new blueprint, completely clean with just the UE4 mannequin skeletal mesh in it. Unmodified except for setting collision to BlockAll

Still not getting either of these events firing

[remote meteor]

what are you trying to hit?

[flat coral]

I'm just hitting it with my player pawn

[twilit gull]

yeah, i'm trying to hit floor on the same level with character assuming char and tower close to same z coordinates

[eternal reef]

What is the actor getting hit?

[remote meteor]

whose capsule component is that 🤔

[flat coral]

Pretty much custom pawn from the ground up, but it's build around a base collider with these settings

FWIW the colliding actor IS registering the collision. My pawn takes damage if it hits too fast and that's happening

[twilit gull]

thats what i get

[eternal reef]

The Hit is on a Skeletal Mesh, is it possible that you have a capsule component around the mesh that already blocks your pawn from getting too close?

"Could" explain if your going too fast that the collision does not properly register

[flat coral]

Nope, just a default scene root with no collision, nothing custom about it

[remote meteor]

maybe find floor isnt really doing the cut, maybe we can manually linetrace downwards to find floor

[eternal reef]

I assume DeadMiner2 is the one you try to hit with another character, right?

[flat coral]

Yeah. I'm trying with the default 3rd person character pawn just in case somehow my pawn is messed up and causing this

SHIT

Registers hits from the default pawn

What's the longest you've spent trying to fix something that wasn't broken...

[eternal reef]

So wait, it does work?

[bright harbor]

so i'm not sure if it makes more sense to put this here or in #graphics but is there a way to stop the camera from clipping into the character model in 3rd person? i have a collision check happening on the boom arm, but this issue still happens

[odd ember]

you can add collision that blocks the camera

on the character mesh

however that might have some wild consequences

[bright harbor]

it's already blocking the cameras trace channel, but i'm not sure why it's not doing anything to help it

[odd ember]

what is?

[flat coral]

When I'm not hitting it with my player pawn, yes

[bright harbor]

the mesh itself has the channel blocked, just not the capsule collider

[odd ember]

I don't think camera has any collision on itself by default

[bright harbor]

the spring arms collision probe is running through the camera trace channel though

[odd ember]

yeah but that's just to tell the camera where to move to

[bright harbor]

as far as i can tell there's no way to add collision to the camera itself

[odd ember]

in case there's an object in between the actor and camera

of course there is

just make a sphere collision and parent it to the camera

[remote meteor]

it will clip because the wall behind is asking to do so, there are not enough space between the wall and your character

[lapis flower]

let's say I somehow messed up my whole project, is there any way I can recover earlier states of it?

[eternal reef]

Do you use a Character or a Pawn Class for your custom character?

[odd ember]

if you had source control at the earlier states, then yes

[lapis flower]

is it on by default

[odd ember]

nope, it's a separate application that requires a bunch of setup

[eternal reef]

😬

[flat coral]

Pawn

[eternal reef]

Do you use a collision sphere or somethign like that for collision checking or the mesh directly?

[remote meteor]

or you can adjust the probe size in the camera arm setting

[flat coral]

Collision sphere. As of right now there is no collidable mesh on my custom char, it's first person

[bright harbor]

that would work for walls and what not, but the issue is even with a bigger prove size, it will still clip into the character mesh

[remote meteor]

it should behave that way because theres is physically no space between the floor and ur mesh, the camera has to start somewhere

i will imagine requiring a more tricky way to totally prevent this

[eternal reef]

Hmm.. okay now its getting tricky
And there is nothing that "COULD" potentially block any hit detection between the other character and your pawn?
What might help is to put "Walk Forward" on tick and place the character and the "hit" actor infront of each other, make the collision boxes visible and check in simulation whether they are actually touching

[gentle urchin]

Some material magic 😄

[remote meteor]

yes

[odd ember]

did you try a separate sphere collision?

[bright harbor]

yeah, but to no avail

[gentle urchin]

You can also do custom pcm

[odd ember]

welp, time to uninstall unreal

[gentle urchin]

With fancy logic for what to do when x happens

[flat coral]

Here's a fun one: Added a printline to the On Component Hit for the collision sphere of my pawn... It's hitting the actor.

How can a collision only work one way?

[remote meteor]

you can try to cheese it by setting your character capsule to be slightly larger than your mesh and then 1 probe size

[gentle urchin]

You can also offset the springarm when you get near straight up rotation, or when camera is closer than x

[remote meteor]

block collision is a tricky one

when the other end isnt blocking your collision object type, there is a situation where the even only fires when the self actor is moving

[flat coral]

The big difference between the 3P character pawn and my pawn that I can think of is the 3p character moves presumably by translation whereas my pawn moves by physics

[eternal reef]

oh did you active generate hit events in your character?

(In the moving actor)

[flat coral]

If I didn't I wouldn't have gotten that printline above, right?

But yeah, hit events are enabled

[eternal reef]

Running out of ideas tbh

[flat coral]

You and me both

[odd ember]

collision has to be the same on both elements to work

[gentle urchin]

Would offset be acceptable ? So it slides right instead of clipping?

[flat coral]

Okay so check this out... I added a capsule collider that goes AROUND the whole actor... and it WORKS? Even though it has the exact same Collision settings as the SkeletalMesh?

[bright harbor]

i suppose so, but i have no idea how i would do it

[flat coral]

This isn't a fix though it's just another mystery, I need to know which bone was hit

[gentle urchin]

During cameramove, check the rotation of the spring arm. Remap range clamped, using the last 10 or so degrees to lerp a local offset to the spring arm

[remote meteor]

just realized there's this

[flat coral]

aw fuck it's disabled

please dont tell me I gotta go in and change this on every bone

[remote meteor]

you can highlight all and tick them 😄

[flat coral]

We're in fuckin' business. Thank you SO much

[eternal reef]

The usual hunt for the hidden bool that fixes all 😄

[gentle urchin]

Using camera managers right vector while doing it should make it stay neatly on the right side relative to char at all times

[novel rock]

I still don't know how to fix this?

[bright harbor]

gotcha, i'll look into it and see what i can do, thank you

[plush wharf]

I get a hitch (half second lag) in the game anytime I load an animation (soft reference) from a data table. Anyone know how I can stop this lag from happening?

[maiden wadi]

@plush wharf As in nothing at all working or running? Because that's not normal for just calling an async load.

[plush wharf]

The game lags, completely pauses, for half a second

once the asset already loads the first time, then it no longer lags when i revisit that item

i am displaying flags from different countries one at a time

[maiden wadi]

What happens if you do nothing more than disconnect the white execution line from SetItem to LoadAsync?

Wondering if it's previous logic, because ASync loading shouldn't be causing that kind of gamethread spike.

[plush wharf]

Well, I bypassed the async load asset like you said, and it runs without a lag spike when transitioning to different flags

I bypassed because it will play a sound associated for that flag

I have a rtx 3090 alienware 128gb....

the animation sequence is a 1 second clip. Of livelink facial animations I did for metahuman

On UE5

[maiden wadi]

I dunno then. I'm not used to that kind of behavior. 4.25.4 and 4.27.2 at least don't do that when loading assets async.

Also worth asking, this is in Standalone or PIE?

[plush wharf]

I tried both standalone and in the viewport

[twilit gull]

can i override keyboard buttons when hud widget is active?

[maiden wadi]

I dunno then. Could be the animation or a weird UE5 quirk. Leaning more towards the first, but nothing is impossible.

@twilit gull Use the Widget's OnKeyDown override.

[plush wharf]

Ok, thanks for trying

[twilit gull]

thats not possible in BP or i'm a bit blind?

[maiden wadi]

Open the UserWidget, hover over the "Functions" part. Should change to "Override". UUserWidget has a huge list of these. OnKeyDown should be one.

Note, try to use OnKeyDown before you use OnPreviewKeyDown.

[twilit gull]

oh yes, i found it 🙂

now its the least thing to get how its working

[maiden wadi]

You get get the Key pressed from one of the aruments and == it to other keys, and branch off of that.

[twilit gull]

so this way if i have action one on 1 and i open widget with action 2 bind to 1 i get action two?

[gentle urchin]

this seem to work

[bright harbor]

that looks perfect!! thank you so much!! i’ll give it a try after i eat lunch

[gentle urchin]

alternatively you'd limit the angle so they cant look up this way 😛

[odd ember]

that camera looks like it feels awkward

[gentle urchin]

I agree, it needs some tuning 😛

if it even can feel not awkward, dunno

not used to offsets like that

[odd ember]

I think the pivot should still be at the center of the character's neck, not offset

usually you do over the shoulder in third person

[maiden wadi]

The way that input works in Unreal is that it will first be processed through UI. Your UI trees that can support focus will try to run OnKeyDown and OnPreviewKeyDown. OnPreviewKeyDown will run first, and starts from the base of the hierarchy of widgets. OnKeyDown is second and will instead start from the very tips of the hierarchy at the lowest children. If nothing returns Handled for that key, then it is processed through the PlayerController's InputStack, which is the Array of InputComponents you've created on actors or Pawns via possession or EnableInput.

@twilit gull

[twilit gull]

okay, i see

ty!

[maiden wadi]

Note that this is for GameAndUI setting. For GameOnly controls, I don't believe UI is considered at all for input, and for UIOnly, nothing will reach the PlayerController's InputStack.

[novel rock]

i tried all the all the rotation controllers i cold think of.

[novel rock]

nothing is working

[gentle urchin]

Undo the offset you do when entering the vehicle

[maiden wadi]

Yeah. SpringArm or Camera has had it's Roll value set somewhere. Just needs zeroed out.

[novel rock]

are you saying i need to remove the attach to component?

[gentle urchin]

Im not aware of any component , so .. no?

[novel rock]

offset?

[gentle urchin]

You're probably doing something when entering a vehicle

Something about the camera or springarm

[wide linden]

boys my brain is breaking can anyone help me the question is Aim down sights and a sprint to cancle the ads

https://gyazo.com/d42e651dad986fdac6e7689ae18944a8

this doesnt work

trying to have sprint cancel ads

[brazen merlin]

why is IsAim true when you press sprint?

[gentle urchin]

Was about to ask

[wide linden]

ive tried both

true and isnottrue

[gentle urchin]

...

[wide linden]

neither work

[gentle urchin]

If you're unsure of the state

Of a bool

Consider renaming it

[brazen merlin]

sounds like you dont know what you're doing to make this work

[gentle urchin]

So its obvious what it is

[wide linden]

thats true

[gentle urchin]

IsAiming = true should have very clear state

[wide linden]

Yeah is there another way to do this

to make one input cancel the other

[gentle urchin]

Not without knowing things like binary states 😅

[wide linden]

yep idk why i ask any body anything in this discord

always get smart ass response

later leaving this discord

waste of time

[brazen merlin]

true, why waste time help a newb who should be learning all the base concepts anyways?

[gentle urchin]

Was about to say

I should also leave this discord

Clearly its wasting my time

[flat coral]

You're doing a lot of setting that bool. Do you Get it anywhere?

[brazen merlin]

its slackers, not help everyone for free service discord

[gentle urchin]

Clearly responses would improve if there were payment on the table^^

[flat coral]

This discord wastes my time and saves my ass in equal measure

[gentle urchin]

Yeah same

[flat coral]

But if I wasn't here, I'd waste my time some other way, but what would save my ass?

[gentle urchin]

There are moments ^

[brazen merlin]

easy to help you, you already know the basic ideas of the engine architecture

[maiden wadi]

I get about one out of every twenty of my questions actually answered. I learn a ton from just following conversations though.

[brazen merlin]

you're too smart though

[flat coral]

That just means all my problems are fucking insane esoteric shit where by the time I come for help I've already proven that P = !P or something

[gentle urchin]

Top 1%

Hard to help

[brazen merlin]

yeah, its the stuff that you're not likely to find a million times over out on the interent

[trim matrix]

Hey, so basically for some odd reason my list view item in my widget is not actually being clicked on when I click on it. Like this event (image attatched) doesnt even fire off at all when I click on any item in the list view: https://screenshots.foxy.rip/FXPgzzOG

[maiden wadi]

16 hours a day of Unreal over three years will do that. 😄

[gentle urchin]

I wish I had half that time

Lucky if i get in an hour or 2 during the day

[flat coral]

Are you SURE the selection is actually changing? My first guess would be that you've got some higher level widget which is catching your clicks before they get to this list

[brazen merlin]

i stare at the engine for 3 hours on average, just absorbing it

[trim matrix]

But there is nothing that would catch it

[eternal reef]

Thinking all day about your project and then not doing anything at all when you would have time is the way to go

[flat coral]

That's a tough thing to be sure about in a UI of any complexity. Widgets can be added to viewport from anywhere, and be totally invisible and still catch clicks

IMO you should throw some debugging in there and make SURE that your list view is getting click events somehow before you try to debug it further

...Take it from someone who just spent like 4 hours trying to fix something which was not actually broken

[brazen merlin]

oh yeah, did you solve it?

[maiden wadi]

Which Widget class is this?

[trim matrix]

How would I test this?!

[trim matrix]

Widget class idk

Idk if there is seperate ones lmao

[maiden wadi]

I mean what is the binding from?

[trim matrix]

Wdym binding

[maiden wadi]

How did you get that node in the graph?

[trim matrix]

Uh

[trim matrix]

Oh that binded function is just in the widgets graph

https://screenshots.foxy.rip/Tpnp0duY

[eternal reef]

From the list of widgets you can pull in, which one did you use

[trim matrix]

Just pressed that one

[maiden wadi]

For which Widget class though?

[flat coral]

Haha yeah, the problem was my skeleton needed to have "generate hit events" on all the BONES even though it was enabled in the BP

[gentle urchin]

Click != selection change

[brazen merlin]

ah

[gentle urchin]

To my limited knowledge

[trim matrix]

No like I cannot click on anything

[gentle urchin]

Visibility on the list?

[trim matrix]

And idk why - didnt change anthing

[trim matrix]

That's the list view visibility

It is literally just Visible

[gentle urchin]

ListView i believe?

[trim matrix]

Yeah it is list view

https://screenshots.foxy.rip/ICnMKnRM

That one

[flat coral]

Does OnItemClicked fire?

[trim matrix]

So like, when I try and click on anything - it just does nothing at all

[trim matrix]

No checked that

Not the one I have or on item clicked works

Nothing fires

[flat coral]

See that makes me even more sure you got something else catching the click

[trim matrix]

It isn't a child of anything either

[trim matrix]

Yeah it just isn't firing the event AT ALL like isn't even reaching it 😭

[flat coral]

Copy / paste this widget BP, and then in the copy, delete EVERYTHING but your list

Is this widget BP a child of anything or do you directly call AddToViewport on it?

[maiden wadi]

Hmm. Seems to work fine.

[gentle urchin]

So..

Nothing in the ui works?

[flat coral]

actually that's agood question, can you click OTHER buttons?

[gentle urchin]

Or just any event in listview?

[trim matrix]

So uh, its a VR game so I spawn it like in a certain way...

[trim matrix]

Yeah

Everything on the menu works like the combo box, the buttons

They all click and make noises and stuff how I want them too

The ONLY thing not working is the list view

[maiden wadi]

Can at least confirm that dropping it into my main screen widget it runs.

[trim matrix]

That's literally it

[gentle urchin]

Vr multiplayer, sounds like a not-my-sunday-project ill admit

[trim matrix]

😂

It is actually a mod for a VR game called Pavlov

But thats not the point

[gentle urchin]

True

[trim matrix]

The point is, it works like a normal widget

[gentle urchin]

Ye

[trim matrix]

And I am emulating a mouse click through my own methods of trickery and tomfoolery

[gentle urchin]

So there's the problem 😅

[trim matrix]

And it is rendering etc

[trim matrix]

Nono that part works compleeetely fine

[gentle urchin]

Worked*

[trim matrix]

No

Works

It works on my inventory widget which is sharing the same interactor thingy

[gentle urchin]

Its in the past now 😂

[trim matrix]

The problem is with the list view and the fact that I cant fucking click on it or anything in it

[gentle urchin]

Did it ever work?

[trim matrix]

Yeah like yesterday and the past 4 weeks

[gentle urchin]

The listview?

Soo... sourcecontrol back?

[trim matrix]

Dont have it

[gentle urchin]

Erhh

🥲

[trim matrix]

Yuh....

I didnt even change anything tho

Just woke up, loaded UE and it wasnt working

[gentle urchin]

Things can happen between close and open

[trim matrix]

Well thats a lie

I changed things, but nothing that should affect whether it should be clicked or not

[zenith trout]

can i put 1 blue print class into another like spikes onto floor (viewport)?

[flat coral]

Aint that just the way though?

[maiden wadi]

There's only three reasons it wouldn't work.

1. Something else is on top of it.
2. The ListView itself or the children you're putting in it don't have visibility.
3. Pointer device is broken.

[trim matrix]

[brazen merlin]

you can add a ChildActorComponent, then in that specify the bp class - warning, they are a little tough to work with

[maiden wadi]

Worth an ask. Do you have any game wide retainer boxes?

[trim matrix]

1. IDFK, really does not look like it AT ALL
2. The child entry widget thingy looks visible
3. Shouldnt be an issue, worked for the last 1 month

[maiden wadi]

Do you have access to the editor's Widget Reflector?

[trim matrix]

Yeah can open this thing

[maiden wadi]

Wait. Are you using the uh.. Pointer thing to hit world space widget components?

[gentle urchin]

Widget interaction component

[trim matrix]

Im gonna be honest with you mate - dont know what the jargon here means

[gentle urchin]

Most unstable thing i've used beside my toaster

[trim matrix]

Yeah its a widget interactor

Thats at least what it is called in the Pavlov VR community anyways

[gentle urchin]

I experienced exactly what you're doing so ditched it

[maiden wadi]

The component itself has collision on the interaction's trace channel?

[trim matrix]

What

[gentle urchin]

The rest of the ui is working.. so

It sort of must be?

[trim matrix]

Yeah exactly

[trim matrix]

No dude, it is working completely

Because I can do OTHER stuff in the widget

Like I can press buttons etc

[maiden wadi]

But that specific widget component displaying the widget in world space, it has correct collisions?

[novel rock]

cant find an alternative way to fix rotation

[trim matrix]

Yes 😐

[maiden wadi]

Can you see the little dot thing display on it when pointing at it?

[trim matrix]

https://tenor.com/bfp1e.gif

[maiden wadi]

Has a debug draw for it. Don't remember how.

[trim matrix]

Dot thing?

Ok I am lost now

https://screenshots.foxy.rip/oObuiIGc

Does it have something to do with that canvas panel being hit test invisible?

Or would that not even matter in the slightest

[maiden wadi]

You can't use that, I wasn't thinking that this was for VR.

[trim matrix]

It is for vr?!

Oh right the debug thing

[maiden wadi]

what about this thing here in the widget interaction component?

[trim matrix]

https://screenshots.foxy.rip/5Ayd5w5P

Thats my interactor

There is no debug thing

https://screenshots.foxy.rip/ttyPyqUt

[maiden wadi]

Inside of that actor there has to be a component.

[trim matrix]

Just that in the code

[trim matrix]

Not that I can see

[maiden wadi]

WidgetInteraction

[trim matrix]

Oh then yeah

[gentle urchin]

Ye its there

[maiden wadi]

Do you see that purple mark on the widget when pointing at it?

[trim matrix]

No not really

[maiden wadi]

It's probably not hitting the widget component then

[trim matrix]

No but it is!

https://screenshots.foxy.rip/0XbYGyRb

Thats the panel

I can click EVERYTHING on there

EXCEPT from the list view

Everything EXCEPT from it

[maiden wadi]

Do you have DrawAtDesiredSize set to true on the WidgetComponent that this widget is displayed on?

Just to be sure there isn't a display/collision mismatch.

[gentle urchin]

Just for kicks, is there any settings on the listview that can be relevant ?

[trim matrix]

Idk

Like what

[trim matrix]

Where would that be?!

[gentle urchin]

Or in the child widget, is there a visibility setting there?

[trim matrix]

The entry widget?

https://screenshots.foxy.rip/glLtg2Gw this one?

[gentle urchin]

Open the playerbutton widget

Or..

Is that even in use?

I dont know how listview internally works..

[trim matrix]

Yeah it is

[gentle urchin]

If it used events on the entries,

[trim matrix]

Mate I dont know how anything works - I am just going through the motions

[gentle urchin]

Or if all events are passed through the list and forwarded with the interface....

Based on some in press location ...

[trim matrix]

Its updated like this

And that function looks like that

[gentle urchin]

This is noo good