blueprint

[ruby shard]

hi everyone, so I am trying to make a crouch system in unreal 5.7 first person template but there is a camera manager and first person character and when the first person character crouches, the camera manager stays up and my camera doesn't change place, or that's what I think is happening, to be honest I have no idea why is there a camera manager, can someone enlighthen me?

[spark steppe]

try to append your filename to GetProjectSavedDir()

[lost hemlock]

wdym?

[maiden wadi]

If memory serves. You need to open your LevelBP in the maps you've already made and reparent them to your new class type, same as you set it in project settings.

[lost hemlock]

you mean this?

oh you mean to tell me that I should use that on the import maybe

ok gotcha, I'll try that rn ✅

[drowsy jungle]

Any can help with Retarget animations from an Animation blueprints?

Everything is working nicely with the new generated IKs but there is no new animation blueprint exported blueprint

[narrow pulsar]

A question regarding multiplayer. Why does the above work on both server & client but if I changed the "SheathWeapon" from "Run on owning Client" to "Run on server" it ONLY works on server and not on client

If I change visibility only on owning client the other players should NOT be able to see it right?

Not really sure how I can fix this one unless I run 2 different events, one on owning client one on server

so I do both at same time

[ornate trail]

"Run on owning Client" to "Run on server" it ONLY works on server and not on client" Because you just told it to? you can''t expect things like materials and visibility to automatically replicate plus that wouldn't make much sense. Things like this need to happen on all proxies

[narrow pulsar]

No I get that

What I mean is like

[errant mason]

i want to add an impulse to a spawned object and i want the impulses direction to always be from my camera forward direction like im throwing something, how do i implement the camera forward direction?

[narrow pulsar]

How would I run it on both, I don't think multicast is the answer is it?

Isn't that gonna affect everyone else too

[ornate trail]

no not multicast, in cpp you would use "replicate using" meaning when a var changes it triggers something to happen on a proxy. not sure what the bp equivalent is tho

[ornate trail]

camera->Get forward vector X velocity (float)

[errant mason]

i don't really understand what you're saying, but here's what im trying to do. every time i drop the item it just drops to the floor with no impulse at all (even though the spawned actor has projectile movement speed and the impulse in the screen shot)

[woeful mesa]

Would anyone perhaps know how to make a "Turn based" locomotion?
https://youtu.be/PHXinBn1pyA 0:32. You can see here in the video the player must turn in a circle before they walk another direction. It's my first time coding movement, and theres no information about this online.

[next hollow]

There’s some like “rotation follows velocity” “rotation follows acceleration”
It makes the player actually rotate.
Rather then the default of snapping to the view of the camera.

[faint pasture]

Look at what's feeding the impulse

Impulse = SpawnLocation.Velocity

that makes zero sense, the spawn location's velocity is probably zero

[next hollow]

Yeah, you want this setup.
Disable controller rotation, and enable orient to movement.

[errant mason]

ye i thought thats what the guy was trying to say to implement. i fixed it. i just removed the impulse and on the spawned actor i enabled simulate physics so the prjectile movement component worked

[crimson briar]

I think it is often how you do rpcs depending on what exactly is the behavior you want.
Calling a server RPC to execute something and then client rpc to make changes based on that execution isn't anything out of the ordinary.
Another approach would be to use a repnotify bool or something and inside the rep function check if the character is locally owned to make changes - but if this information is never used by other clients, it is a slight waste to send the variable for no reason. So a owning client only is a good choice here

[surreal peak]

Setting SheathWeapon to RunOnServer mean that it's a ServerRPC at that point. And since you are already on the Server (cause SheathWeapons is also a ServerRPC), it's basically a normal event.
While when it is set to RunOnOwningClient, it will execute on the Client again.

To execute something on "everyone", you'd need to use a Multicast. If you want to limit it to Server + OwningClient, you'd need to manually check if HasAuthority OR IsLocallyControlled.
However, using a Multicast only makes sense if you aren't modifying "State". If what you are modifying is "State" and Clients/Server should react to that, then you are supposed to use a RepNotify variable instead.
The note about the "limit to Server + OwningClient" remains.

Also there is #multiplayer .

[honest bough]

Why not using that one?

[woeful mesa]

Would there be any way I could make it so that:
When it is "Evening" in Sky blueprint, aurora blueprint spawns in the sky. Then when its "dawn" in sky blueprint, aurora blueprint despawns?

[shut blaze]

Use the "Create Actor" node when it's evening, store that variable
Then when it's dawn, "Destroy Actor"
Also, why don't you use Enums to know when it's morning, day etc.? (instead of making a booleon for every state)

[woeful mesa]

idk i dont have much experience generally with unreal engine. how exactly do i store the variable?

[shut blaze]

haha, alr don't worry I'll show you

1 moment

[woeful mesa]

thank you

[shut blaze]

Right click the blue pin then click promote to variable

[rocky cape]

Hello guys

[shut blaze]

Hi

[rocky cape]

Can you help me with something

How do I make this a progress bar for my widget? I tried many times in fill image and it doesnt fill the bar

?

So...?

Need time? Alr

[maiden wadi]

You realized you just asked the question two minutes ago and people have to try to make out your literal "screenshot" that isn't readable? Are you used to using AI or something and getting immediate responses so much that it's made you impatient?

[shut blaze]

Idk how ur doing it, I just do this:

1. Create a widget
2. Add a progress bar
3. on the right panel use the backround image for the depleted bar and the fill image for the full bar
4. Then tell it from 0-1

[shut blaze]

No problem
Advice: Hey Kroly, use Win+Shift+S on your keyboard to screenshot and also crop your image 🥹

[maiden wadi]

He doesn't have discord on his laptop.

[shut blaze]

ah

[maiden wadi]

Also that material is not UI domain or set up for UI use using UI UVs

[rocky cape]

How do I do do that? I should set up my bar material into background and also fill image?

[shut blaze]

Idk how to do that with a material, I just use the progress bar + fill and empty images

[rocky cape]

How? Idk how to do that, set up for UI using UI UVs

[maiden wadi]

Is this a school assignment? If so is that material from the course? Because I'm confused why it's a world space material? Only thing that comes to mind is that someone's doing world space UI.

To use a single material you'd need to place the material in an Image widget as a MaterialInstanceDynamic and adjust a scalar paraemter that drives the masking percentage.

To use it like C37 pointed out with the ProgressBar widget, you need two separate materials. One for the background and one for the green fill area.

For the UI UVs, there's a... Forget the name.

UserInterfaceUVs or somethign node. And the material needs set the UI material domain instead of Surface.

[rocky cape]

Ok but im not that experienced in ue5, pls tell me step by step guys, my head is gonna get crushed

[shut blaze]

Well idk what it's for, if it's just a simple fill and empty progress bar, all you need is a widget with a progress bar and 2 images ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'm assuming it's simple so
I will send pics step by step

[rocky cape]

Thx bro I appreciate

[shut blaze]

done, hope this works

did not have bar icons so I used some assets left over in my game

[jaunty solstice]

Persistent Light Blueprint Actor issue that is driving me bananas!
I've defined a Public Float variable 'Intensity' making sure I click the eye icon to make it public,
But whenever I drag a new instance of this Light Actor Blueprint to my level and then attempt to change the exposed 'Intensity' value in Details panel I am unable to.
What am I missing?
I've also made sure 'Instance Editable' is enabled for this property in the Blueprint!

[tidal ridge]

hey did anybody got my message?

[rocky cape]

I must fill my background image? If no can i simply use a color?

[shut blaze]

yes, just use a color

[shut blaze]

play around with the settings dude ✌️

[rocky cape]

Bro u see the problem:

[shut blaze]

no, explain?

You must have an empty bar image and another image of a full bar

[rocky cape]

Bro it has not that border i made in my material

[shut blaze]

do you really need a material?

[rocky cape]

Yeees?

[shut blaze]

foooor?

[rocky cape]

Bro i want to learn how to do that, to level up my skills

[woeful mesa]

I see. So with the new variable, I can go into the aurora blueprint and call it from there, then any variable from this sky blueprint?

[shut blaze]

ah I see, I'm not a material expert :/ I'm sorry
you could try resizing

make it fit your material pixels

[shut blaze]

yes

[rocky cape]

A ok sorry for annoying u, thx for helping anyway

[shut blaze]

no worries, I'm literally a game dev for 2 years and didn't finish any games
it's good to ask for help

[woeful mesa]

I see. But will the aurora blueprint only be activated/used when the "spawn actor" node is called in sky blueprint (until it is destroyed)?

[rocky cape]

🙂

[shut blaze]

So, when you create an actor
You create an instance of it in your level, the begin play in that blueprint will fire
And if you store a variable to that blueprint even if you delete the instance, that actor will still be in memory until you erase the refference

[woeful mesa]

So when the game begins, all blueprints are activated

from the begin play

[shut blaze]

When the game begins
If you have code in "Begin Play" it will fire for everyone
When an actor is created anytime "Begin Play" will fire for it

[woeful mesa]

Ok so.
Normally, when the game begins all blueprints are fired from "Event Begin play" node.
UNLESS, if the actor is created at some other point in another blueprint, then the "event begin play node" for that actor only starts when it is called from the other blueprint.

Am I correct?

[shut blaze]

uhhh don't really understand
When an actor spawns begin play just fires

begin play is called by no one, it's called by the game when an actor spawns

[woeful mesa]

oh ok

so if its placed into the level, it just plays when the game starts

[shut blaze]

1. yes it plays when the game starts
2. yes it plays when an actor spawns even after the game started 3 hours ago

[woeful mesa]

and the "Spawn actor" node places it into the level, which calls the other blueprint which is being spawned.

[shut blaze]

Spawn Actor: Hello I just spawn the thing
The Thing: Hey I am born, I will begin play

[woeful mesa]

then "Destroy actor" makes it so that blueprint/actor isnt placed in the level. HOWEVER it is still being run

[woeful mesa]

ok i understand now

[shut blaze]

Destroy Actor: I am dead, nothing remains of me, nothing runs anymore.

[woeful mesa]

ah

lol the fact that u had to explain it in children terms really shows how complicated some things can be XD

[shut blaze]

😂

[woeful mesa]

One last thing, this new variable "Spawn Aurora" that I created in the sky blueprint. Should I rename it "Sky" because it contains all variables in the sky blueprint?

[shut blaze]

You name it whatever you need it too
What is aurora, is it the sky or like a ship?

just name it "AuroraShip"
Important mention:
When you delete an actor and you store a refference to it, it can give you a ton of error if other blueprints try to access it
What you can do:

1. Set it to none when deleted
2. When you need something from it Use the Grey Is Valid? node

[woeful mesa]

I have 2 blueprints.
BP_Sky (which contains most things and is called from the very start)
BP_Aurora (which is only going to run when boolean evening in BP_sky is true)

The code where the variable is stored is in BP_Sky. This is also where it spawns BP_Aurora. Whatever function inside of BP_Aurora will be run when it spawns. Do I name the variable "Sky" (because it contains all variables inside BP_Sky) OR "Spawn_Aurora" (because it will be used inside BP_Aurora to get the variables from BP_Sky.)?

[shut blaze]

Man, whatever works best for you
Example: Aurora REF; Aurora etc

also

we seriously have to talk about those booleons

[woeful mesa]

Ok ok. Theoretically I could use the variable in other blueprints right? (such as BP_Fog, which makes fog orange or smth at some time)

[woeful mesa]

What about them?

[shut blaze]

alr I will show you, wait a moment

[shut blaze]

you can just do this

1. It's more performant
2. You don't have to check for every part of the day
3. It is smaller and doesn't clog up space as much
4. Also easier to read

[woeful mesa]

I see. So when it's day on enum, it runs the code from this arrow and nothing else

[shut blaze]

YES

[woeful mesa]

ahhh

[shut blaze]

PERFECT

[woeful mesa]

thats very good information to know

thanks alot

theres so many different methods

and features

[shut blaze]

you're welcome

just gotta find them out

[woeful mesa]

yeah, i guess its about asking a LOT of people instead of just watching tutorials (they all do the same thing lol)

[shut blaze]

alr good luck on your project 👋

[woeful mesa]

Thank you again, Bye

[shut blaze]

Idk if this works, might be because of the get right and forward vector, in my game I just use the same setup (in my image) with keyboard and works fine

I think it's coz you're not using all 3 axis and it gets buggy
Difference between Get Actor Rotation and Get Controller Rotation?
Get actor rotation is rotation of the actor in the world XYZ
Controller rotation, idk what you mean. if you mean physical controller then X from -1 to 1 & Y from -1 to 1. If you mean the player controller, idk why you'd want it's rotation it's primarily for the player controlling a pawn ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[void jewel]

anyone had issues with variable references to widgets randomly breaking/disappearing? i have to re-set them every other time i use the engine

[dark drum]

I can't say I have. How are you setting the refs?

[void jewel]

look at the right side. This will randomly reset every now and then. Even when I've not done changes to the widget being referenced. i can't see any pattern to it

[dark drum]

What is class is the variable/property in?

[void jewel]

User Widget. The one needed to reference a widget object

this seems to be similar issue: https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/value-disappears-from-variables-after-random-amounts-of-time-pass/436385

[dark drum]

How do you set the ref?

Generally, you wouldn't be able to set a reference to to another widget unless it's placed in the designer view.

[void jewel]

What do you mean? It's the default value that is cleared

The blueprint uses the default value in most cases, a few other sibling actors might set it explicitly

it basically tells the player what widget is to be used for tooltips, which as a ton of parameters that are changed through an interface

[dark drum]

What's in the drop down for the default value when you try to set it?

[void jewel]

like this you mean?

[last peak]

this ?

[void jewel]

yeah that's the same as in the screen above

[last peak]

You could re set it to something else but only if the type is user widget

[dark drum]

I think you should be using a class ref instead of an object ref.

It'll be referencing the CDO or most likely an instance that gets created for viewing in the editor.

Unless you're using a var that has the 'instance' property flag (which you can only do in c++) it won't be creating an instance.

Use the class ref and then when you need a widget of that type, you create one (at runtime) using the class ref.

[last peak]

where do you set it tho ?

just doing this is not enough
On runtime you will have to create a widget and then you have to set this variable to the instance you created

[void jewel]

There's another initialize custom event, but why would this be relevant? Should a variable not keep a default value regardless of what happens later?

[void jewel]

yeah, that's what i suspected (that i'll have to create it using the class). I later use this to check if it's in viewport etc, but should be doable. i can try this

[last peak]

A variable consits of 2 parts
Part 1 is the type thats what youve set but you also need to fill it with something

The good old reliable XD

[pale remnant]

Does anyone have an idea why the shaders are compiling every time I open the project?

[tidal ridge]

Well i was Using Character Class, I know you have to use (Get Controller Rotation) For Movement input, like Forward, backwards, Right and left. but i was curious If (Get Actor Rotation) would work in Character Class BP since it is also a Actor i thought it might work the same.

[shut blaze]

A character is just a pawn with more code in it
A pawn is just an actor with more code in it
It has to work 😅

[maiden wadi]

Just be aware that a pawn's Controller's ControlRotation is not the sameas the Pawn's actor rotation. ControllerRotation is the idea of the direction the controller is looking at. Not necessarily the Pawn as well.

Even in an FPS, the ControlRotation doesn't match the PawnRotation. Yaw will match, but pitch for example will not. A pawn doesn't normally pitch but it's control rotation look direction does.

Similarly with like a third person RPG camera style where you can look around while the pawn doesn't rotate at all until you move. ControlRotation here is usually where the camera is looking, not where the pawn is facing.

[last peak]

Get forward vector should always work

[tidal ridge]

so Actor Rotation is only for spinning Objects and not Character movement Correct? Because i thought Character Class BP was part Of the actor Hierachy/organization, and when i Put (Get Actor Rotation) in Character BP class Movement Input, Like I put the Actor rotation in Forward and right vector, the only thing was it only made my character spin while trying to go Right?

[hollow river]

hey yall i’m a beginner whenever it comes to unreal i have a group project where im in charge of game mechanics for our 2.5D fighting game what would be the requirements of trying to get my two players to move left and right because i have everything else right im assuming but my two players aren’t moving.

[shut blaze]

Alr I'm a little overwhelmed by the amount of text but I'll try to explain.

Rotation ≠ Location
It's not for movement
But the get forward vector, imagine an arrow pointing in the direction the actor is facing.
Add movement input: IN THE DIRECTION YOU WANT IT TO GO, so the forward vector for going front and back
The green pin is just a float from -1.0 to 1.0 which is the speed

Actor rotation, is the Rotation of the Instance in the world
The actor can have multiple stuff inside of it, like the mesh and camera which can have their own WORLD and RELATIVE Rotation

[tidal ridge]

yeah i can see it know because Vector is the Direction of the character its Facing. so yeah thanks

[shut blaze]

Ur welcome🙃

[worn kernel]

Can anyone tell me why my game keeps crashing when I try to compile.

[shut blaze]

||I asked chat gpt:
Unreal Engine Crash Diagnosis Summary

Cause of the Crash: The project is crashing due to a corrupted
Blueprint. The log shows: “Pin named ‘execute’ was serialized while
trashed – requesting pin named ‘then’ owned by node K2Node_Event_3”

This indicates that an event node inside BP_ThirdPersonCharacter has a
broken or deleted execution pin, causing Unreal Engine to fail when
compiling or validating the asset.

Affected Asset: BP_ThirdPersonCharacter located at:
Content/ThirdPerson/Blueprints/BP_ThirdPersonCharacter.uasset

Why This Happens: - The editor crashed while the Blueprint was being
edited or saved - A node was deleted incorrectly - Hot reload or Live
Coding changed underlying logic - An engine update or plugin update
altered node structure - The asset became corrupted during migration

Fix Options:

1. Restore from Autosave Go to:
   Project/Saved/Autosaves/Game/ThirdPerson/Blueprints/ Find the
   autosave for BP_ThirdPersonCharacter and restore it into:
   Project/Content/ThirdPerson/Blueprints/

2. Repair the Blueprint

• Launch UE with Shift held to avoid auto-loading
• Open BP_ThirdPersonCharacter
• Use: • Right-click → Refresh All Nodes • File → Reparent Blueprint
  (choose same parent) • Compile
• Delete and recreate the faulty Event node if errors appear

3. If the Blueprint Does Not Open

• Try Validate Assets
• Right-click → Delete Unused Variables
• Right-click → Rebuild Blueprint
• Launch editor with: UEEditor.exe -ForceLoadBP

4. If All Else Fails

• Restore from backup / version control
• Replace with a working copy from another project
• Recreate the Blueprint manually

Summary: The crash is caused by a corrupted event pin in
BP_ThirdPersonCharacter. Repairing or restoring this BP will resolve the
compile crash.||

Does this solve?
I will delete if not

[worn kernel]

IT DID thank you

[shut blaze]

Haha this one's on Gpt 😅

[severe turret]

technically it's on the collaborative effort of all developers. GPT doesn't do Unreal. So thank yourself also 🙂

[pale basalt]

im spawning a tornado where other players can fall in it,but the print string always return "BP_Character_C_1",even if other players spawn the tornado

the tornado event is a overlap

[last peak]

How can anyone know if you only show half your code

[pale basalt]

sorry,i'll try to explain it better,here's the tornado actor,where if "Colisão" component gets overlap it will fire a event to the player character BP,and in the character BP,what im trying to do is set the Captured player in the tornado location,but it returns only "BP_Character_C_1,but it does not return BP_Character_C_0 which is another player,in the first printscreen i've tried filter only the actor who is not the controlled pawn

[last peak]

are you even sure that you are controlling the second character ?

sometimes the level overwrites the default char that you set

add a prin string in every character on begin play and see if it fres

[pale basalt]

im playing with "play as Client" and 2 players

[pale basalt]

theres only 1 character,and 2 players in the map using an instace of this character

[last peak]

ok but then its impssoible
If you have Bp_character_0 and Bp_character_1 spawned in the world other actor would get shown if it overlaps

very odd maybe someone else has a idea

[pale basalt]

it's very weird,the tornado that is spawned in player 1 gets the mensage that is player 2,and the player 2 also gets the same mensage

[trim matrix]

hi. if i have a function in my players begin play to reset puzzles (actor bp’s) based on a bool in the game instance, and the puzzles are tracked w a map variable in my save game bp w a name key for each puzzle how can i reset the puzzles properly? like rn i have a function that resets them and it works, but i can only get the function to work when i dont change levels and i call it on overlaping w another actor and casting to my player, but if i do change levels and call it based on the instance bool being true on begin play, then the puzzle still acts like its solved on game loading even tho i set the bool in the instance and if i set its solved bool value of the map to false. been trying to look into more ab map variables online but i cant figure much more out for my usecase ig. i been trying to figure out a easier way to save the puzzle states aswell but im completely lost. the only reason i need this is bc if the player loses a minigame (which is a seperate level), they get their last 5 completed puzzles reset, but the puzzles arent resetting properly unless i dont change levels, just trying to get this bug sorted its the last part of my games core logic i need to finish, any ideas on a better way to save and load/reset puzzles like that or a way to fix how im doing it w the map variable would b greatly appreciated i been at this all day today and yesterday😭😭

[lost hemlock]

today we will work on game snapshots for our game saves....this will create a million game screenshot photos on your hard drive probably but we're gonna keep those files small... so my question for #blueprint today is, is there a way to limit how many serialized images get created on your disk drive? this is how I create them...

it creates all these files to my project directory...

although I can probably put them in a folder with string append nodes blah blah blah.. but still look at that... 35KB each... everytime you press your save button you're creating a snapshot & you save that to your slot.... Although I should probably scrap the idea altogether...

[glossy cloak]

Is it a snapshot of your game progress? Essentially an iterative save? Or.....

[glossy cloak]

I feel like I keep hearing conflicting info about this, but iirc, you can't serialize a map, meaning it can't be saved. But take that with a grain of salt because it sounds like you're not having an issue with the puzzles state being saved, but rather being reset after.

In which case, it should be rather simple. You'd just loop through your map keys for the levels you want to reset and set each of their bools back to false. Then you'd want to save the game. Otherwise when you change levels (I assume) your game would simply reload the previous state, which had them all complete.

I assume I'm missing something though. Or this simply isn't working.

Personally I wouldn't use a map for this. I'd probably have an array of structs with puzzle IDs (or data assets if you want to get fancy) and any data you need saved for each puzzle. Or you could do the same thing with a map if that seems to be working. Using a struct would let you add all the data you wanted for each puzzle, like a star rating, score, or best time, etc. And this gives you the possibility to save puzzle progress for players to come back to after a break or a crash without losing any progress. Guess it depends on the complexity and length of the puzzles though.

[last peak]

You cant save the Map as it is, what you can do is get all elements of the map like actors and then save everything you need like transforms ..... but i think i saw a plugin floating around that does this for you

[crimson briar]

I'm not sure what exact system you have right now. But in general you would assign unique IDs to each instance of the puzzle. Since you want it cross-level, you would need to use a single structure for every puzzle. Keep the save file in the game instance so it is not refreshed when you change levels.
Then the player or the puzzle blueprints pull their data from the game instance on their begin play. The puzzle checks if it's id is inside the save file, for example in an array containing IDs of fixed puzzles or smth like that.
Resetting the five last puzzles could be easly done by keeping another array (not map) in the save file with the last 5 puzzles that were finished.

[dark drum]

1 million images is a but ton. Even at 19KB each (the smallest one you showed), that's still over 18GB of data. I would probally look at going down a different route.

However, to answer your question, take a look at the Blueprint File Utils BPLibrary. (Its a plugin you might need to enable) It has a lot of functions that might help.

[hallow tundra]

say i wanted to get the relative location of object Bank in my BP. how would I get it? I move the object in viewport and the relative transform node only gives the correct value when you move it inside the blueprint. I tried "Make relative Transform" node but this one gives me 0,0,0

[dark drum]

You need to swap the transforms around. The Get Actor Transform should be connected to the 'Relative To' pin.

Also, there's a 'Get Relative Location' to get the relative location of a component.

[lost hemlock]

this is the only path tho for serializing render targets, otherwise render target only remains just an instance....

so I have render target parameter inside of a material dynamic instance... and you can't be saving these...

[lost hemlock]

ok 1 million images was an exaggeration

[hallow tundra]

sadly get relative location gives me 0,0,0. when I swap the transforms around it also gives me 0,0,0

they both only work when I move the object in blueprint, is there no way to get it while moving it in viewport?

[dark drum]

Does it still print 0,0,0 when printing at runtime?

[dark drum]

Why are you needing to save them? what are they used for?

[hallow tundra]

i see, it does give the right transform in runtime

[hallow tundra]

theyre used for placing pcg cloner on the given location, i was thinking on getting the offset and doing it tht way

[lost hemlock]

snapshots of the game from the player perspective to use in the memory image..

[dark drum]

Yea it looks like it suffers from the issue with the construction script only grabbing the class default value. (Its a complex issue)

Are you placing the PCG cloner at runtime or are you wanting it at editor time?

[hallow tundra]

its needed in editor time so im guessing i need to find another way

[dark drum]

If i remember correctly, if you use a 'call in editor' function, it should pull the correct value.

[dark drum]

I would keep an array of the file names they get saved as. This array can be saved in a normal Save Game Object. Then you can cap it at 100 entries and either delete or override older ones.

[hallow tundra]

ye this works, thanks

[deft solar]

mah weapon blueprint is missing in the fps template and doknt know how to get it into scene

i am a noob so pls help

🙏

[trim matrix]

i was using a struct but couldnt get it to save and load tbe maps were saving and loading but then when id set them to false again it didnt stick and acted like it was solved still, how would i use a struct instead? the puzzles arent complicated they just have a solved bool and an interact interface so the player can set solved to true on interacting

[dark drum]

Maps (the property type) save perfectly fine in Save Game Objects. How are you saving and loading the data?

[trim matrix]

when the player interacts w a puzzle, it sets the bool in the puzzle bp to solved, then casts to instance and calls a function in the game instance “updatepuzzlestate” that takes an input of the puzzle id and the bool, inside the function just gets the save game ref i have in my instance, adds the id and bool to the map variable, then calls save game to slot. and then to load them rn the only way i had it working was the puzzles had a “get puzzle state” event and would get the state of the map variable inside the save depending on the id and then set the bool to solved or unsolved depending on what was saved,

i have a normal save function and load function in my instance that works fine w the rest of the variables i need to save and load (like player transform and stuff) but not all of them need saved when saving wether a puzzle is solved or not, so i wasnt calling them specifically

if using an array or struct is easier or better for this, i dont mind jumping to use that, i just couldnt get it working 100% using a map variable

[crimson briar]

Most likely it is not a problem with the map but with the way you save. SOmething somewhere gets overwritten or is not updated - either during map modification or saving itself. You should use prints and retrace the saving and loading process

[trim matrix]

i have been, the values arent updating properly they still print solved when they should be set to unsolved again

[dark drum]

When you're puzzles loads, they should check for saved data and update accordingly based on the value found. As long as the data is saved, it shouldn't be an issue.

Updating the state from another level just means you update the value in the save which would get reapplied by the puzzle when it next loads.

[dark drum]

Show how you're handling it.

<@&213101288538374145>

[woeful mesa]

I have 2 blueprints. BP_Sky and BP_Fog.

Is there a way I can trigger an event in BP_Fog from BP_Sky?

For example, I want it to update BP_Fog everytime function "Time Tick" gets called (e.g. I could try put a call event in "Time Tick" which calls an event from BP_Fog once, then it repeats.

I saw something called "Spawn Actor From Class", BUT I already have BP_Fog in my level and don't want to keep spawning more. I just want it to keep triggering an event in there

[dark drum]

I would use an event dispatcher on your BP_Sky, something like 'OnSkyUpdate' which the sky BP calls when ever it gets updated. Then BP_Fog can bind to the event dispatcher and have something happen.

[trim matrix]

https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/p0w9ha_i/

https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/06yd_kom/

[trim matrix]

this is what is called on players begin play if the instance bool has been set to true

but it seems to only work properly when using an event overlap without changing the level

n im aware its messy, ive been trying to get this working havent had a sec to clean it up yet

[dark drum]

Can you share a screenshot, blueprintUE is blocked for me. :/

[dark drum]

Where is this code located? On the player?

[trim matrix]

that one is the puzzle bp

[woeful mesa]

I did it wrong... didnt i?

[dark drum]

You were close. You need to make sure the bind event actually gets called. If you want it to update on begin play as well. just call the 'SkyFog' function after the bind event.

[woeful mesa]

I've done it, however it still doesnt work.
Using breakpoints, I've figured out it doesnt call BP_Fog (it doesnt do eventbeginplay)

[dark drum]

What is it supposed to do be doing on begin play? This is just doing a cast. Also you should avoid making connections across exec paths.

[dark drum]

Do you set the sky ref to your BP_Sky ref in the level?

[trim matrix]

it gets the array from the instance which is added to each time the player picks up a puzzle reward (clip)

ik i shouldnt be using the variable that way i was just testing quick

[dark drum]

And you are aware the 'Restore Recent Clips' wont get called on begin play?

[trim matrix]

yea its not supposed to in that one

thats why its hooked up to the on overlap

[woeful mesa]

Yes i think

and in bp_sky its toggling breakpoint

[dark drum]

It doesn't look like you have. Set your sky ref as instance editable and then in the level, select the fog BP and in the details panel, select the sky BP instance from the drop down for the sky ref.

[woeful mesa]

so editable like this. but it doesnt show?

[trim matrix]

any ideas?

[crude dew]

Hi, Can someone tell me if its bad for a task to run indefinitely in a Global Task (Im just messing about and learning and trying to understand State Trees better) 😄 This is the task it works with the OnTick added to it and the Finish Task disconnected but if i connect Finish Task it ofc completes and then doesnt seem to work again. Please. : )

Also on another note, If you have 3 tasks and 2 return Finish Task as False and one as True does this mean the State Has completed or Succeeded?

[dark drum]

The instance editable part is right, now select the BP fog in the level. The details panel should update and you'll be able to see the sky ref variable now it's instance editable.

[dark drum]

I'll be honest, I'm struggling to follow what's going off.

Everything seems over complicated for what it should be.

What's the role of the player character?

[trim matrix]

wdym

[woeful mesa]

Omg it works! Thank you so much. Unreal engine is SO confusing lol.

[crude dew]

Hi, Is this transitional rule basically saying check the player spotted condition for true every tick and if its true then move to chase state right please? : )

[lofty rapids]

promote to variable and use the variable in the other event

idk if it will fix any problem

but it looks weird the way you have it

[trim matrix]

it wont thats not the one giving me the issue, thats the only way i have it working

still works w the overlap, but not when calling from the begin play on player depending on the bool in the instance

[lofty rapids]

try to save the instance

and then pull the variable after

instead of saving the variable like that

[trim matrix]

wdym

[dark drum]

It probably doesn't work on begin play because the player character doesn't exist yet.

[trim matrix]

https://youtu.be/1JNoP9u99ZA

would something like this work better?

[trim matrix]

i was able to get save and loading of the states of the actors working following this, but now the function to reset the puzzle isnt working im not sure what would be a better way of getting the puzzle ids inside the solved array to reset instead of staying solved, i have a mark as unsolved event but its not working properly

the only thing ive figured out for it sofar is length of the solved puzzles array never goes back down to 0 even tho i call the remove node in my unsolve function,

only other thing is the puzzles call this on begin play but it shouldnt be an issue if the id is removed from the array i would think?

[trim matrix]

this way of doing the restore function is working, but only the first time if the puzzle is reset again the session id array branch fails. and its not the remove from array inside the restore fucntion bc the puzzle spawns another clip when the puzzle is interacted with again and the player overlapping w the clip pickup adds the id to the array again

[autumn pulsar]

Is there a way to get the current resolution of the viewport? I'm trying to make a vector of the mouse cursor relative to the center of the screen

[severe turret]

depends where you are trying to get it. In a widget? In the editor?

Either way look into GetViewportSize and GetViewportScale

[autumn pulsar]

It's meant to be in-game. Basically I'm trying to move my pawn in the direction of my cursor on screen

[severe turret]

ahh that is probably going to be a case of using world projection to screen or screen projection to world. Part of the HUD class (or it used to be).

[autumn pulsar]

I don't want to actually sample the world because traces can get blocked by things like trees and such

so I'd either like to take as a vector from the center where my pawn is, or clip it by a plane defined by my pawn's height

[severe turret]

well projection is the key here. You need to associate location between world and screen (as player is in the world and cursor is screenspace based). As you don't want to get the value of the mouse position in the world then deprojection is probably the wrong method in this case. So the other option would be more likely to fit the purpose.

[autumn pulsar]

Well, I can create a vector using the center of the screen and my mouse position, then feed that into the movement vector of my actor, and that wouldn't require any reprojection

since I have a fixed camera

Though would break on FOV/angle changes

[severe turret]

dot product might help there as it takes two vectors and gives you a direction vector. Probably the most efficient way to calculate such things in math terms. There are functions to do what you need in engine though.

[autumn pulsar]

Yeah, I just need the center of the screen to dot product with

and I need the resolution of the viewport to calculate that

[severe turret]

GetViewportSize / GetViewportScale are the methods for that

[autumn pulsar]

in the HUD class?

[severe turret]

the hud thing I mentioned was in regards to world projection and screen projection as they are primarily hud functionality

[autumn pulsar]

hmm seems get viewport size gets the entire editor rather than just the current window

err actually it's correct, get mouse position on Viewport seems wrong

[sick sky]

how do you use it

[autumn pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/UNvneq8.png

currently just printing it every tick from the pawn

I wonder if it's being affected by the resolution scaling

[sick sky]

uh whats ur goal here

[autumn pulsar]

I mentioned it above

[sick sky]

mh, not sure
the position of the mouse is relative to the top left corner

[autumn pulsar]

yeah that's fine

[sick sky]

MouseLoc - Center should give you the relative pos

[autumn pulsar]

the issue was that "Get Mouse Position On Viewport" was reporting a lower number than expected

I guess I need to multiply by the scale?

[sick sky]

if mouse is at 50,50 and center 100,100
you will get -50, -50
and +50, +50 in the other way around

[faint pasture]

There are infinite directions that meet that criteria. WHERE along the line from the camera through the cursor do you want the pawn to be trying to move to?

I'd start by moving towards the point where that line intersects ground level, whatever that means in your context

[autumn pulsar]

I get that, that's not currently the problem I am facing

[fast wave]

Hello guys,Is there any short cut to quickly understand UE material blueprint and create material through AI

[faint pasture]

Nope, just takes I

Just learn how it works.

Nothing artificial about it.

[autumn pulsar]

Well, I'm trying out two methods. One is to not reproject at all and just use purely relative screenspace information from the center of the screen to create a movement vector, then if that sucks I was going to use the player height as an intersection plane and then calculate a vector from the player to that as the movement input

[faint pasture]

Does your ground change z elevation, or does the camera move around or change angles?

What the player intends is "move to the bit of ground my cursor is over"

Keep that energy

[autumn pulsar]

Camera is locked to the player, and I don't want to sample the ground

[faint pasture]

You don't have to sample, you can just do math

Ground = the plane extending through the characters waist z elevation right now

Then it's line plane intersection, that's just a single node.

[autumn pulsar]

That's what I said in my big post

[fast wave]

Is there any good tutorials for this,for accelerating learning

[autumn pulsar]

https://i.imgur.com/u3T9huL.png

[faint pasture]

I have no idea where you're starting, I would just start by googling how unreal materials work. Try to find something that goes over the actual theory, not just click-by-click tutorial.

[faint pasture]

Yep. I do that all the time. It's especially fun in 3D, Garry's mod style.

[autumn pulsar]

I was trying to take a shortcut

https://i.imgur.com/MPUd47j.png

kind of works lol

probably better to project into the world as it's more resilient

[autumn pulsar]

Does UE5 have a function to do the clipping math?

[faint pasture]

yes

line plane intersection

[autumn pulsar]

thanks, took me a minute to find it

[dry monolith]

I'm hoping to a list of actors by distance, I'm surprised that there doesn't seem to be an easy way to do this with blueprints? Any thoughts on how to do this in a low-cost way would be great thanks 🙂

The idea is that I want to get the closest 3 cars to the actor here, with the first item in the list being the closest vehicle, and the third item being the 3rd closest (assuming there are 3 perceived vehicles ofc)

[autumn pulsar]

How many actors are you expecting to hit?

[dry monolith]

I reckon a max of 15

[autumn pulsar]

brute force may be fast enough

[faint pasture]

just iterate and choose the 3 closest

[dry monolith]

hmm yeah I'll try that

[gentle urchin]

https://dev.epicgames.com/community/snippets/xBY/unreal-engine-sort-actor-array-based-on-distance-from-target

both bp and cpp opportunity 😄

[primal hare]

How can I make the "casted to" character a variable, so I can change/pick any other character?

[crimson briar]

With the cast - you can't. You can compare classes with other methods, like the IsA(soft) node or by getting the class of the actor and comparing it to another with ==

What do you need it for though? Maybe there is a different way to design it

[primal hare]

I have a BP that works with a character and I'd like the flexibility to use this BP with other characters as well.

[crimson briar]

Are the other characters similar?

[primal hare]

I did some search and apparently BPI can do this?

[crimson briar]

If yes, it is usually approached by making the many characters a child of one general character class that has most of the funcitonality

[primal hare]

In this immediate case they are, and I think I can make a child parent thing. But a complete break from connection would be ideal

[primal hare]

yes but that makes the adding new functionality a bit of keeping track kind of work

[crimson briar]

Not really, Most of the shared functionality you would add to the parent. And the custom functionality of each character you would need to write either way since it would be character dependant.
And if the characters share a lot of the code you won't need to remake it for each one

[sand shore]

If anything, it would seem that BPI would require more code duplication

[crimson briar]

As to how to use the BPI foir it - I guess they are suggesting to make an interface that returns the class of the actor? I guess it could work but unnecessary interfaces are annoying in long term

[gentle urchin]

and in such scenario doesnt provide any benefit to the interface at all

[primal hare]

hmm.. OK I think parent child option is the quicker saner way. Thank you!

[gentle urchin]

inheritance or composition when its something shared

[dark drum]

You should avoid returning specific object types on interface function. Base classes are generally fine as these would be loaded anyway but others can result in large dependency chains that become a pain to fix.

[dark drum]

This is where Actor Component can be great. They allow you to make self contained systems that you can place on actors. If you want something to call a function on it, you can use the 'Get Component By Class' node to get it from the target actor (be it a character or something else)

[crimson briar]

Probably, I've never used interfaces in this way anyway so I've never thought about the implications

[dark drum]

Yea, its often missed by a lot of people. Especially those that use them to prevent hard references. 😅

They just end up moving the hard ref to the interface that then gets force loaded by multiple actors implementing the interface.

[strange patrol]

Hey guys, is there any way to bind the GameplayDebugger keys(0,1,2,...) to the number keys at the top of the keyboard? They only work with NumPad keys and i'm using a 68% keyboard so no numpad.

[dark drum]

Debug keys don't work in a build. You should be using enhanced inputs, of which you can specify any key you like for a given event.

[strange patrol]

i'm talking about the debug keys in the editor when you press the apostrophe key. Obviously you wouldn't wanna have debug keys active in the build lol

[dark drum]

Ahh ok, check in the project settings under Engine -> Input

Edit: Actually no, Engine -> Gameplay Debugger, there might be something in there.

[dry monolith]

Thank you!! very helpful 🙂

[strange patrol]

yoo you're goated i found it🙏 thanks

[dark drum]

I think its this section specifically.

[patent wasp]

This is a hism in a bp, I can ctrl click to highlight just one and move it around. Is there a way to do this in blueprints for a selection and deselection system during gameplay, clicking on one of the instances just gives me this 1m_Cube 0- Instance 0 in the settings, so not a huge amount to go on. For static meshes I can set a custom stencil depth, but that just highlights all hism instances for a hism. Anyone know how to do this highlighting at gameplay, preferably also being able to set different colours.

[patent wasp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZgbzwBQTPY

Also, this guys stuff has a lot of nifty things once you get an understanding

https://www.youtube.com/@PrismaticaDev

And for the pretty much GOAT of all reference for all blueprint, you want Matthew Wadstein, who covers near enough every node, there is material stuff in here as well.

https://www.youtube.com/@MathewWadsteinTutorials

[dark drum]

Yea, you can spawn a special highlight actor and set its mesh to match the mesh of the HISM. Then you just set the position to that of the hit instance.

You can enable stencil depth on this. You might get some Z fighting with them being in the same place but you can usually offset this by applying some position offset in the material in the direction of the face. (tiny amount like 0.01)

Other options is using an overlay material if you don't want to use the stencil depth.

[patent wasp]

Ok, thanks

[maiden wadi]

Ben Cloward's stuff is really good for graphic stuff from what I've watched. He's pretty expressive with his guides usually.

[small bramble]

Is there a blueprint that plays the animation and only continues AFTER the animation has finished playing?

[severe turret]

that's usually handled by montages

technically if you know the length of the animation, you could use a delay node with the time set to the animation length, but that isn't best practice really

[small bramble]

I realised that from expirience lol

[severe turret]

Anim Notifies can help too but from what I understand you are trying to stall the logic. I'd likely go for montages and anim notifies in such a case. It's usually rare that you want to stall logic because of animations. Event driven logic is best for that

[white parrot]

You can bind a delegate when it finishes playing
That’s how montages do it

Not sure if you need c++ for it, I assume you don’t.

[last peak]

Play anim montage

That gives you a pin for when the animation finished playing

[lethal pollen]

Hi!

How can I get the reference of a camera actor that I have placed in a level in the Player Controller event graph?

Thanks!

Maybe I can spawn the Camera Actor in the Player Controller instead of placing it in the level manually.

[maiden wadi]

You choice here is mostly to tag it and GetActorOfClassWithTag

[lethal pollen]

Thank you!

[dark drum]

Not many options. What Authaer said is one though. However, depending on your overall goal, it might be worth making a manager actor component you place on your game state that does some initial fetching so they can be managed more easily.

If you want to share more about your overal intent, we might be able to give more suggestions.

[lethal pollen]

If IA_Player_Move is Axis2D, can I do this to move forward, backward, left and right?

[dark drum]

Yes, you'll need to set up some modifiers for some of the keys though to manipulate the 2d vector it'll spit out.

[lethal pollen]

I'm just doing a Space Shooter as an exercise for a course and I need to get the reference of the zenithal camera

[dark drum]

Yea a manager type of thing is probably over the top then lol. Just go with what Authaer said.

[lethal pollen]

Do you have any example about how to split the 2D vector?

[dark drum]

Do you mean the modifier thing?

[lethal pollen]

Something like this, I suppose:

[woeful mesa]

I've got a fog blueprint, and I want it so that every time it becomes evening in the day blueprint, the fog changes colour. I have done this.

Now I'm just focused on optimization. Right now, BP_Day calls BP_Fog every 0.5 seconds, which makes it smoothly change colour using a curve and whatever. BUT I am afraid that it may not be optimized when paired with it being called alot more times, such as by BP_Weather.

Is there a way I could make BP_Fog transition colour smoothly while only being called 1 time every 200 seconds (for example)?

[dark drum]

Yea

[lethal pollen]

I'll check it

[maiden wadi]

Shader parameters probably. If you inject a time and a from and to color, it's easy to make the shader itself lerp over this with very little extra cost to the shader and make it insanely cheaper to gameplay code.

[lyric lynx]

You could call it once enabling a bool that ticks , or starts a timer that lerps the transition and clears and stops timer when done or re-enables the bool

[maiden wadi]

The thing is that you don't want to tick this on the gamethread. Should handle it entirely in the shader. Forcing a gamethread tick to manage it is major overhead of both the tick function and forcing render queues to pass data more often. Should pass the transition data of time states and colors once and just let it work.

[woeful mesa]

Ok wait. Is there a way I could do it so that:

in BP_Sky, it becomes day (changes enumerator to day).

In BP_Fog, it calls an event ONLY when enumerator day is on. Otherwise it doesn't call at all.

So like, it only calls an event when a specific thing happens. Similar to the key buttons being pressed, but only when something like an enumerator is "day"

Generally I just want things to be optimized and have values that are easy to change.

[dark drum]

<@&213101288538374145>

[faint pasture]

An event dispatcher inside whatever controls the day/night cycle, and the BP_Fog binds to it

Assuming material params can modify the fog how you want, I'd do this with a material parameter collection

I'd just make an MPC_DayNightCycle which contains the current time of day, and any materials that want can just use it

[sharp void]

When I get into an error state in a blueprint, from a construction script, how do I make it stop running so I can actually fix the problem?

i don't know any way to actually get out of this state besides killing Unreal

i can abort from the blueprint debugger but it just hits the error again and i can't make it stop

[white parrot]

Most likely it means you have a typo

[lethal pollen]

Hi!

Where do I have to add the mapping context? In the Player Controller? In the player's character?

Thanks!

[sharp void]

i know exactly what the problem is. i just don't know how to get the UI to unfreeze so i can fix it

without restarting unreal

every time i get an error in a construction script the only way to fix it is to restart unreal
i'm asking if there's a way to make the debugger halt and not try to run it again immediately

[white parrot]

Stopping PIE isn't 'removing' the debugger?

[sharp void]

i'm not in PIE. this is just in editor

for a construction script for an actor i have in the level

[dusty loom]

Yo guysi know this isnt place to ask but
I’m trying to learn Blueprints in UE5, and I’m curious how you learned them.
What worked best for you?
Did you start with videos, documentation, or small projects?
Any channels or tips you recommend

[sharp void]

watched the unreal sensei 5 hour tutorial then just started making stuff and looking things up as needed

[faint pasture]

I just opened up the engine and started to try to do stuff

I started in 2014 though so there weren't really any materials around, I got the engine the first week it was public.

[sand shore]

I had a small project that I knew would take me off the beaten path (no existing tutorials), so I just tried working directly towards it and picking through tutorials and forum posts, etc.

Anyway I kinda kept doing that over the span of years, unlocking new knowledge when I needed it for an idea I had

But also, why isn’t this the place to ask that very question?

Also, what’s currently confusing to you? Might help get better recommendations

[ornate trail]

put a breakpoint before it / start of construct?

[tepid solar]

Hey guys. I have created an Actor Component that is called Scanner and basically recasts and saves positions on hit components. I created an event dispatch and now I want an separate actor, that has no dependency with the actor with the scanner component, to access it when it calls the event dispatch get the saved positions in it and then spawn spheres on their positions. Is there a way to get a reference to the actor that triggered the event dispatch?

[gentle quartz]

I was wondering.. When I equip an item from a stack of lets say x2 and I only want 1 of the stack to equip.. whenever I hit equip button.. how can I make it to where stacks of one will still equip and remove from the inventory.. but stacks of lets say x2 will only remove and equip one item from the stack.. hope this makes sense

[austere orchid]

you can do either

as long as you can get the controller, you can add a mapping context

[faint pasture]

have equip take the FIRST item from a stack.
If the stack size is 1 then the first item is the only one.

[gentle quartz]

This is how I have it now... but I can equip the same item twice

[faint pasture]

split it up a bit, high level your "equip item stack" should go like this:

1. Is this item even equippable?
2. Do we already have an item equipped in this items slot?
3. Equip the first item in this stack.

assuming items go to slots, if they don't then check "do we already have one of these equipped" if what you intend is to not allow duplicates.

[gentle quartz]

thanks I will try

[dusky meadow]

Hi this is a general conceptual question rather than any specific project but im just wondering if there is an simpler way to make an inventory where items have properties that need editing at run time such as durability. My current method is to have data assets that contain the default stats of items essentially a template for them then when I want to add an item I create a a Uobject that contains the same variables that is then set by a data asset and then functions can be run off that. Just wondering if there is a simpler way since this works but seems overly complex?

[narrow pulsar]

I need some help, I have this animation that I already retargetted to Quinn Simple Skeletal Mesh / Skeleton. The attacks are perfectly fine and aligned and so are the hands. But when I try them ingame they're off centered and the hands are in the wrong positions. I assume it's something related to my ANIMBP but I already tried stuff and disabling things but nothing seems to affect it. I already tried to skip the layered blend per bone but still same results

[faint pasture]

The items can just be structs

[dusky meadow]

Do you mean instead of data assets or the uobjects since i cant edit structs at runtime

[faint pasture]

sure you can

what do you mean by "edit at runtime", just changing a value or adding an entire named property?

[gentle urchin]

personally i'd go for a uobject buuut struct is my second option

[gentle quartz]

Got it figured out. added this bit of code.. Thanks Adriel for pointing me in the right direction

[dusky meadow]

if i have a iron sword that has values by default name damage durability etc and the player decideds to rename it or the durability decreases i need to change that

so just changing a value at runtime

[faint pasture]

trivial

you can do that if its a structure or a uobject or whatever else

[gentle urchin]

^

a struct is litteraly just a predefined 'set' of variables

[dusky meadow]

so its fine to use the uobject for the actual item in game and data assets or data tables for the default values ?

[gentle urchin]

I usually split it between the static and the dynamic data

static is the 'definition'

dynamic is the 'instance'

[dusky meadow]

so the static would by assets/table and dynamic uobject ?

in this case

[faint pasture]

That's why I like structs.
Data table or a bunch of assets is the definition, its what says what items exist in the game.
Inventory = array of structs.
Item actor = actor with that item struct as a property
Dummy simple. It's all just bags of data. Although it does take some work to do some fancy stuff if your items aren't just bundles o stats.

[white parrot]

The retargeting may have failed you, it might look correct in the animation asset, but not in game, is the source using the same skeleton?

[dusky meadow]

If i want to change a variable on an item in the inventory in this system how would i do it ?

[faint pasture]

just change it

the same way you change your hp when you get hit

or your position when you move

[dusky meadow]

I didnt think you could change the variables in a struct at run time what nodes would you use ?

[faint pasture]

With structs, having an iron sword in your inventory is NOT having a reference to the iron sword row in the data table, it's having a copy of that row which has been modified.

[faint pasture]

set member

Although if you're brand new I'd probably use uobjects or just actors, what's your item situation look like?

[gentle urchin]

In a pickup scenario, I would create a new ItemInstance, which gets the definition set, and can hold the instance data aswell

[faint pasture]

I mean hell the list of "every item that can exist in the game" could be an array of actor classes inside a data asset.
And an equipped item can just be an instance of that actor.

that's the simplest approach but obviously not how you'd do WoW or anything with a billion items.

[narrow pulsar]

No it was arms only so different skeleton, the animation looks good after retargetting and if I directly put the animation sequence into my ABP final pose it works well but my montages are not working properly

[gentle urchin]

even in a strucut scenario you'd want to split it in two struucts

[faint pasture]

I like the struct approach because it's simple and elegant and very lightweight.

[gentle urchin]

one "definition" or data table version

[faint pasture]

?

along what boundary

[gentle urchin]

and one instance type

[dusky meadow]

My items were defined as data assets all children of a base item data asset and then for each type such as weapons or armour i would have a uobject with the same variables and functions to change the values and then on pickup i created an object of the type of uobject that was the same as the data asset ran a function which took the data asset to set the values on the uobject and then added that to an array for the inventory

[gentle urchin]

unless you want to 'litter' your DT with all the instance data aswell

[faint pasture]

Why not, it's the defaults

unless you mean HP vs MaxHP

[gentle urchin]

fair enough

durability vs max durability yeah

dynamic vs static

[faint pasture]

Can't you just markup as transient? although for savegame you'd want to keep it.

I'd just raw dog slam a copy of the struct in there and call it a day myself.

[gentle urchin]

i used to do all sorts of hoops to get it to work

like you can include a TMAP

on the data table strucut

which would allow you to add dynamic data to it when needed

[white parrot]

Oh, then it's definetly your animBP if it's fine as the only source for the AnimBP in PIE, it's injected to the UpperBody slot?

[faint pasture]

Do you gotta recreate shit or is there a way to "instance" a data asset?

[narrow pulsar]

yes it is, I did try to directly push the upperbody slot into the end pose but then the montages still arent working

may be an issue with turning from a sequence into a montage idk

[gentle urchin]

this is the uobject part of my proposal.. its just a container for the existing definition, and some additional gameplay data

A struct would achieve the same mind you

[maiden wadi]

There are people that do this too. But I'm personally against this. A DataAsset is nothing but a UObject with some specific kind of data. They're literally identical to a UStaticMesh. You can create a UStaticMesh at runtime too and push mesh data in it. And then use that in multiple components.

The same idea applies to data assets. You can make them at runtime.

But here's where my disconnect is with that. It's like the concept of making a new static mesh for every tree even if it's identical to one you already have. Their idea is static data.

Which is why what Squize is saying is correct. You should "instance" them as some other UObject class, or even a struct if you want to go that route. The DataAsset is just a static data container.

At the end of the day this is true.
DataAsset == DataTableRow
UObject == Struct

You can use a DataAsset or a DataTableRow for static data. And either of those can be placed in a UObject or a Struct to be carried around.

[last peak]

Now write it again but good looking 😛 !

How can you look at this chaos and not want to puke nonstop

[faint pasture]

You may not like it, but this is what peak BP looks like

[gentle urchin]

Truth

[faint pasture]

Although what they should have done is make data flow left to right and execution flow top to bottom

[gentle urchin]

Except the layering

[faint pasture]

everything going left to right makes for some degenerate topology

I like to just keep stuff compact once it's kinda settled, makes it easy to see what's happening at a glance

[gentle urchin]

Fair point

If only it looked better stacked

Especially with execution lines

It becomes messy instantly

Or crowded, atleast

[faint pasture]

I never stack execution, execution goes right to left all aligned, and each executable node's set of parameters is self-contained, no draping lines all over the place.

I'd love data to flow vertically or execution vertically, but that'd be a bit weird with return values.

[gentle urchin]

In plc programming it's solved by splitting the graph into 'lanes'

But different rules etc..

[faint pasture]

Hmmmm....
What if....
What if comment bubbles were scope

or something akin to that existed

the graph equivelent of a curly brace

[gentle urchin]

Ohhh

That could be pretty nice

And yet flexible

[last peak]

Thats on the edge.... but still 20 times better than what they posted lmfao

[faint pasture]

nah it's perfect

All the information you need to know what an executable node does is right in front of you. No pins from off screen, no spaghetti loops, it just does what it says on the tin.

[last peak]

THe lines are criss crossing with the nodes

ugh

This is true perfection, no lines touches a node

Something like this would be acceptable

[faint pasture]

I hate reroutes

[last peak]

https://tenor.com/view/unacceptable-knight-father-bread-boys-crusader-gif-18266778

[faint pasture]

I never use a reroute (except named ones in materials)

[dark drum]

Reroute nodes are great when used well, otherwise they're just extra spaghetti.

[faint pasture]

I've never found a need

and don't even get me started on electric nodes

unreadable crap that plugin is lol

in every situation here it makes it worse

[maiden wadi]

Preeeeach

[last peak]

https://tenor.com/view/blasphemy-funny-cat-bababooey-kitty-gif-27030206

[maiden wadi]

Reroutes should ONLY ever be used if to need something from an executed node's cached output.

If it was from a function argument, or your rerouting some getter variable... Dude. No.

And even from the cached executed node's output, if it's like a pointer to something and in a function scope I'll probably still put that in a local property to use later.

[last peak]

it simply looks 100 times better

[maiden wadi]

True. But this is the cached output thing I was mentioning. First one here is perfectly fine.

[sand shore]

People using reroutes for function inputs

[maiden wadi]

I have seen people use like a single Component getter. Like getting their SkeletalMesh component in a character. And they'll fucking reroute it out to like seven different nodes rather than just using another getter two screens away.

[last peak]

Also in executions

[maiden wadi]

Yeah. 😄 I keep imagining that it'd be nice if there was an easier way to grab those properties, like if they could be put inside of the local variables tab list or something. A lot of people learning even today don't know how to get them.

[last peak]

Beauty

[maiden wadi]

Actually. I'd accept that one because that getter can sometimes be expensive. But I'm going to cry my eyes out at you and whine until you right click that thing and show exec pins and make it impure. So that not literally every one of those text setters looks up the component again.

[last peak]

Haha okok

[maiden wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-that-dan-gallagher-fatal-attraction-s1-e7-i-like-that-idea-gif-5707304908109937196

[sand shore]

Being able to change one node like that and being done is kinda a minor selling point for having big ol data lines made of linked reroute nodes, though

||except that if you were using a local variable, you could still do that type of change, so this point only applies for event graphs||

[last peak]

I mean a reroute is a doubleclick, a local variable i have to set first then i have to get that variable all the time, with a reroute i can lean back and dont have to type

[dark drum]

Yea I'm not a fan of electric nodes either.

[maiden wadi]

Too zappy for my taste. Also too annoying to keep moving to new projects.

[last peak]

How long would you guys need for a Ui with all of these tabs ?

+hud
Only stats and hud connected to the player already

[finite hearth]

I have an actor whose beginplay I cannot use. That actor has a widget component and on that component I need to to get a ref to the owning actor. Is there a node for this?

[maiden wadi]

Depends on the graphics provided and how much time I'd need with the artist. Blockout in a couple of days to a week. Art polish can take up to a month of back and forth but should be largely done in another week if we're talking basic static textures. If you add animated stuff that requires special masks and stuff that time can double with implementation and testing.

This is all also assuming that the gameplay systems driving these are working in a way that the UI can just work from it, and in my experience that is literally never the case.

[last peak]

Damn, i really underpriced myself way too hard

Lead bought a ui pack and its the worst crap i have ever seen all the elements on the images i had to manually put together circle, then add the lock ontop for example
Right now im at 15 hours and im almost done but i should have said 30 hours without having to speedrun

[maiden wadi]

How do you mean that you can't use it's beginplay?

[finite hearth]

It is a replicated actor which is placed in the level manually. BeginPlay is not triggering if replicated.

Not triggering on client**

Normally I would pass a ref of self into the widget on begin play of the owning actor.

[maiden wadi]

Yeah these are a big thing for me. I always try to move things like this to materials as much as possible. You almost ALWAYS end up wanting cute little animations on this shit like when unlocking, or like pulsing for unlockable ones etc. And icon buttons like this get exceptionally expensive really fast when you just start layering image after image on top of each other. Background, icon, glow border, lock(if it shows with the icon a lot of times). Lots of widget prepass going on for stuff that can be a single image widget driven by a material.

Not so much an issue on this UI, there's not a lot of them, doesn't look like there's a lot of room for it here. But then... Someone comes to you in three months and goes. "Yeah but I want all of these trees displayed for every class/character/whatever all on a single screen. And suddenly opening that window halves your framerate. 😂

[maiden wadi]

That's... Not normal? Beginplay should 100% still run. The only thing that won't run in this case is the ConstructionScript.

[finite hearth]

That was my understanding too, but I've been poking this for about 3 hours. Maybe a bug in 5.7.1 or something with my Iris config.

BeginPlay triggers for runtime spawned actors, it's only the ones that I drop into the level manually that do not work for Client.

GPT says that's expected. I don't trust it, but I am frustrated enough to find a dirty hack and move on.

[faint pasture]

The structure or polish? I could make it "work" in like an hour

[last peak]

Ye no way

[faint pasture]

And that's mostly cuz I'd have to remember some stuff, I do very minimal UI

[last peak]

Thats physically impossible

[faint pasture]

You said tabs, I'm not talkng about the content

[maiden wadi]

Hmm. Well the short answer is that from the widget there's nothing you can do. It has zero know or care about it's spawning component.

There's a SMALL chance that maybe the component's beginplay might run? If you could subclass the widget component and override it's beginplay instead of the actor's. You could still pass the owning actor via GetOwner to the widget that way.

But yeah that's nasty. It's fully expected for Beginplay to run on a client when the actor arrives and is spawned locally for them. This actually causes beginplay to run a lot for the same actor on clients because it can leave relevancy, be destroyed and respawned on the client later when it returns to relevancy.

[next hollow]

TBF, even with full setup, that UI ain't exactly crazy.
(Assuming all the data, and other content code is setup (player, items, quests, etc)

[faint pasture]

barebones functionality, probably a couple hours per page, depending on how many of the subwidgets I'd have to make. For example, that character tab is like 7 widget blueprints at a minimum, depending on the data model feeding it.

Most of the work will be in handling the piping of data model to widgets

[last peak]

Is 20 Hours for all tabs with full functionality ok ?

[maiden wadi]

I still maintain that blockout would take a couple of days if you're working from zero. There's a lot of UI there to put together and hook up to gameplay systems honestly.

[last peak]

no polish

[faint pasture]

In that state or programmer art?

And do you know UMG like the back of your hand or are you learning it at the same time.

[finite hearth]

Gah, that's frustrating to hear but I appreciate the info. Ty!

[last peak]

In that quality

[faint pasture]

is that one widget or a layout containing many?

[faint pasture]

long time

[last peak]

Thats just the stats screen

[faint pasture]

also depending on if i gotta make materials and textures and who knows what else

[last peak]

This is the main menu it has a container for the sub widgets like stats

[last peak]

Only pngs for everything

..... god this was horrible XD

[maiden wadi]

Also really hope you're running CommonUI. Would make those hotkey actions infinitely easier.

[faint pasture]

Do you have your own button widget, item icon widget, stat row widget, etc, or are you making an entire panel at one go?

Is this 3 instances of WBP_BlackhandPerk or hard coded 3 boxes with content?

[last peak]

I created widgets for everything that i reuse

[last peak]

I made one skill widget but since skills are not setup yet ive had to hardcode these

but its already setup so it pulls informations from a uobject

[faint pasture]

That's honestly the worst part, the data shuffling

This is about the extent of the UI work I've done, bit of weapon card stuff with dynamic sizing

[maiden wadi]

I like this. But the padding is driving nails into my eyeballs.

[faint pasture]

This is the concept, I like the left font the best. Picking a good font is hard.

Middle hurts my eyes, left reads great but looks like Blizzard

[maiden wadi]

I think a lot of people prefer the left one. I see those thinner, gentler fonts a lot. To me they look kind of pixelated though. I really like the right side best. Kind of consistent and the fonts look clear.

[faint pasture]

Both are much better than middle, that one is painful. Hard to sell scifi without a painful font.

[sand shore]

I think it's fine especially if you're starting from nothin

[last peak]

You are working in a Studio right? Im not really a Ui programmer, tbh i really dislike it, its not that its very hard its just so boring but oh well
How long would someone professional take for it?
Just first pass without polish, bare bones minimum like in my images

[sand shore]

totally clean slate? pro ui programmer, working from a fully thought out prototype? game doesn't ever change after?

working in UMG as a base?

[last peak]

yes

[sand shore]

could be 1d to get something real quick in - no special skill tree or character handling tho

edit: actually I think a more reasonable estimate is 2d (there'll be some stuff I didn't account for besides navigation), but the way meetings and stuff creep in I could see something like this getting a (Calendar Time™) 1w estimate internally for the dev

[thin panther]

left is good, though I personally think the name is too fine.
Gives me borderlands vibes and i like it

[sand shore]

like just having the skill tiles be arbitarily hand placed - getting the lines to connect automatically would be tougher

[last peak]

Thats solid

Damn gotta work faster 😄

[sand shore]

a lot of its due to having done things like 50 times over, knowing the whole toolbox, immediately seeing patterns that'll help you implement things

[last peak]

Just the visuals without any code i can probably do in like 8 - 10 hours
But creating controls and child widgets for example for quests, skills etc took me all in all around 20 hours

[sand shore]

Did you implement navigation fully?

[last peak]

Problem is right now i mdoing client work and i want to work atleast somewhat professional

[last peak]

yes controller and keyboard

[sand shore]

ah yeah that's not something I factored in either

I think getting it stood up within 20h is reasonable

just because some folks could do it a little faster shouldn't mean you're "unprofessional"

and implementing something like this in an existing project can actually take longer if you're fighting the existing systems haha

[tepid willow]

Hello, does anyone know whether it's possible to add ForceFunction to an interface function made in blueprints? Sometimes I want a function not to be an event, but it won't do that unless it has a return type. In C++ you do meta=(ForceFunction) in UFUNCTION to get that

[blissful grail]

take longer if when you're fighting the existing systems haha
Fixed

[maiden wadi]

Unlikely. But you can add a boolean return to it. Hacky, but functions with returns cannot be events.

[mortal fossil]

hello . anny idea about a error node

it s not get or set the array so i dont understand how was made this node that seems i have to redo .... i guess that really basic but dont get it ...

thanks

i changed the variable (name and type) but can figure out how reproduce this node in particular..

[last peak]

You drag off your loop array element and say get (name of your new cable array)

[mortal fossil]

i tried but i have no entry

how iget the target pin on the left?

how i fuse those two ? 😆

[surreal peak]

@mortal fossil Please share the actual error that UE lists you.

[gentle urchin]

append

[mortal fossil]

i deleted the node so cant have the exact but was something like "this aray dont exist "

ok after restarting the project dont know why now i could link the blue line .....

maybe was not save or compile lol...

another stuff that should be simple but dont get it

why this trigger only 1 actor of the array ?

[pure gyro]

You selected more than 1 right?

[mortal fossil]

yea 3

only last one trigger

they are copy past same BP

[pure gyro]

Are the other 2 valid?

[gentle urchin]

do they have the interface?

[pure gyro]

Sounds like there are not valid

[mortal fossil]

yes of course

number 3 is working no issue

[gentle urchin]

sorry but nothing is ofcourse in the world of blueprints

[pure gyro]

True

[mortal fossil]

was of course because i said one was working

couldnt work if no interface

[gentle urchin]

one could have the interface while the other 2 didnt

[mortal fossil]

yes true. but they are same stuff just copy past

[gentle urchin]

i dont know if they share the same class or implement the interface

and assumptions makes for bad help 🙂

[dark drum]

As in a new class or an instance placed in the level?

[mortal fossil]

that just drop copy past copy past

or duplicate sorry

but saying that could be a weird bug i will delet and replace again from the only working one

[gentle urchin]

whats it doing

manipulating some dynamic material?

if so, it could be a race condition

LightActor -> BeginPlay -> Create Dynamic

SomeLightSwitch -> Beginplay -> TurnOffLight

[mortal fossil]

it s doing dynamic material and light switch both

[gentle urchin]

add a delay to verify that it is a race condition

[gentle urchin]

delay after beginplay, 1 second or smth

if it now works, you know its a race condition and can take measures accordingly 🙂

[mortal fossil]

mmmm event with delay same

[dark drum]

show the nodes

[mortal fossil]

that weird i delet the bad one re copy past the working one still same

wich one ?

what i dont understand it s why work for one not all

i just call the interface

[gentle urchin]

(you cant have a delay inside a forEachLoop)

[dark drum]

I was referring to the logic thats setup for the interface event.

[gentle urchin]

yeah show what's going on on the other side 🙂

in the light actor

[dark drum]

Also, change this back to what you had before. 😅

[mortal fossil]

maybe problem are here indeed

but one work... maybe the replicate option ?

[gentle urchin]

Should still watch out for that race condition

I'd also suuggest doing some multiplayer tutorials, especially regarding stateful replication

the only thing replicated here should imo be a bool

repNotify -> Update vis and material color

[mortal fossil]

maybe your right because it s start even before i m in game ....

yea i expected will be multiplayer broken but i m not in charge of this . i thought will at least work in solo

[gentle urchin]

race conditions are still a thing

beginplay is prone to that

there's no guaranteed call order

there's like 50 ways around this ofcourse

one would be to validate the Material Instance when the call happens

if its valid, great, if not, create it and assign it

[mortal fossil]

thanks for all suggestion i will investigate that

( i have to feed the kid so afk sorry)

[dark drum]

Just to add to the talk about race conditions. Its important to understand this, especially when you start handling save/load stuff.

Saving stuff is easy but loading and applying saved data can be a pain as it can often require a specific order as your systems get more complex.

[mortal fossil]

when i look pro BP i buy that clearly another story 🤣

there is always control all other the place

[dark drum]

That whole top bit (purple section) doesn't make any sense. 👀

Lets loop through an array of actors like myself, just to find myself. 🤦‍♂️

The whole thing could be replaced with a simple 'IsEmpty' check on the array and using the return value to set the bool. No need to loop at all.

[mortal fossil]

that was looking weird to me but i too noob to do better. thanks fo rthe comment maybe will tried to eddit that

for my prevous problem i put a big delay and things are going funny lol. like 1 actor dont work at all one work partialy and one work fully xD i will need to put some control all other the place

[crimson briar]

In case of connected actors IMO it is always the best to let one of them control both of them so you avoid problems

Like the light switch tries to get the light it is attached to in begin play. If it fails, it takes a small delay and loops back to getting it. And only launches inti functions on both of them after it is successful in getting the partner

[dark drum]

Add a print string like this to see what it says. This should give you the names of everything in the array. Make sure it shows what should be in there.

[mortal fossil]

was not sur has keep has one or separate for later but good idea

they are all here

ok now i have kind of work the OFF phase . all turn off but when turn ON only one ....

ok.... it s working ]

dont ask me why but it s working lol

i think was messing up durring loading

[verbal kayak]

How to use event dispatch on spawn? I want to spawn something and the spawner can dispatch an event to all the spawned ones?

[mortal fossil]

also my light where ON in editor and was shutting them off on start but i setup them off from start in editor more safe

[verbal kayak]

what is that create event? I want an event inside of that spawned actor to fire up

and also when ever the spawner decides to do the dispatch all the spawned actors will do the same thing

[gentle urchin]

so the spawned actors bind to the spawner

[verbal kayak]

who should have the event dispatch?

[gentle urchin]

create event iis just a way of getting actor signatures from the input actor

In your case the Spawner

Spawner says Brrr -> all spawned actors say Brrr

[verbal kayak]

yes i have that

yeah thats what i want but i cant get it work

[dark drum]

Brrr! Lol

[gentle urchin]

So if all spawned actors is bound to the dispatch, all the spawner has to do is call the dispatch!

then the bound event on the spawned actors will trigger

[verbal kayak]

what do i do in the spawned actors bp

It needs a target

it just doesnt make sense

now i have a spawner event dispatch but then i use bind and i cant use the spawneds target

[dark drum]

In the Spawner BP, create the event dispatcher. After the 'Spawn Actor of Class' node, create a binding to the event dispatcher (like i showed above). Pull from the event pin (red square) and add a 'Create Event' node. On this node, connect the return value from the spawn actor of class node.

This tells the event node, 'Hey I want to call a function on this object.'

On the create node, you can then select the function that is on the connected actor you'd like to call. Please note however, the functions signature (inputs) must match that of the event dispatcher.

[verbal kayak]

yeah it does not work 🙁

[dark drum]

Show what you're doing.

[dark drum]

Where do you call the 'Color Change' event dispatcher?

[verbal kayak]

u did not say where to use that CALL

[dark drum]

Well that's up to you. 😅 When do you want them all to call the event?

[gentle urchin]

Spawner needs to call it 😄

[gentle urchin]

^ "call the dispatch"

basically send out a broadcast

[verbal kayak]

so weird system

[gentle urchin]

"Hey everyone listening! The thing is happenning noow"

Not really

It's like a twitter feed

where the spawned actors subscribe to it

someone still needs to post a new tweet

[verbal kayak]

create event i thought when i pick the even it will do it

[gentle urchin]

then all subscribers get notified whenever there's a new tweet

[dark drum]

Think of an event dispatcher as a bell that makes a specific sound. When you bind, your saying, listen for this sound and when you hear it, call this function on this object.

You have things listening, you just need to ring the bell.

[gentle urchin]

if you just want to call an event when they spawn, you can simply... invoke that

make sure to tune in to the right frequency tho

otherwise bells will ring all day long

[verbal kayak]

why i just couldnt call

why to bind

would be awesome to do that

[gentle urchin]

you can call

directly

on spawn

[dark drum]

You said you wanted to use an event dispatcher. 😅

[verbal kayak]

If I use BPInterfaces, would this be more performant?

[gentle urchin]

we just follow your bidding

no

[dark drum]

no, there's overhead for using interfaces. (granted its tiny so negligible in most cases)

[gentle urchin]

dont optimize something that's not a problem

this is not a problem at all

if you end up spawning hundreds per frame we can talk

[verbal kayak]

yeah i just like bpi

[gentle urchin]

bpi is trash imo

[verbal kayak]

yeah im spawning 100's

[gentle urchin]

for spawning hundreds i'd start thinking about frame slicing the spawning

[verbal kayak]

what is that

[gentle urchin]

spreading the spawn over multiple frames

[verbal kayak]

ahh

ok

[gentle urchin]

frame 1 : spawn 10
frame 2 : spawn 10
frame 3 : spawn 10....

instead of Frame 1 : spawn 100

[dark drum]

Yea spreading across ticks can be nice as it can prevent lag spikes.

[verbal kayak]

but isnt spawning always happening frame after frame?

[gentle urchin]

there's no automatic logic that makes it so

if you ask it to spawn 1000 , it will spawn 1000 that frame

[verbal kayak]

like if i hook up spawn actor to tick. its spawning after tick

[gentle urchin]

and delay the next frame untill it is down

[gentle urchin]

yes then it spawns 1 per frame

(assuming no for loop)

[verbal kayak]

so how can i even spawn 10 at a time?

[gentle urchin]

forloop

[verbal kayak]

lol

[gentle urchin]

0 to 9

[verbal kayak]

any other way?

[white parrot]

Based

[verbal kayak]

so forloops loop is happening on one frame?

[gentle urchin]

yeah

unless you make them customly

[verbal kayak]

is it same for foreach loop?

[gentle urchin]

yeah

all the default ones are on a single frame

[verbal kayak]

so basically complete is always after 1 frame?

[gentle urchin]

https://dev.epicgames.com/community/snippets/Rwvz/unreal-engine-batch-for-each-loop-wait

this one completes in batches

https://dev.epicgames.com/community/snippets/KNYV/unreal-engine-async-for-each-loop

or this one

[verbal kayak]

i made one macro foreachloop with delay

lol so if you loop like super big array the complete will always fire after 1 frame?

[gentle urchin]

yeah

which causes lagspikes

in many scenarios

[verbal kayak]

jeez thats actually news

i thought the bigger the loop the more frames it takes

[dark drum]

Just remember delay nodes only actually work in the main event graph.

[verbal kayak]

yep pattym

latent n all

[gentle urchin]

so frame slicing is a manual process

they really should update the default macro library to include a few more but i guess its abandoned

unsure if LE extended has some

[verbal kayak]

amazingly shitty connections on those prebuilt macros 😄

i mean they look so spaghetti

[gentle urchin]

indeed they do

so does the ones pasted into snippet library on the forum

xD

[verbal kayak]

i understand, my edited macro also looks like that.

i guess, its like im not cleaning up your mess kinda scenario

and also out of view out of mind.

[gentle urchin]

if it works it works

to some degree

[sick sky]

they are automatically generated iirc so its not a human that did it

[verbal kayak]

:O?

[dark drum]

This might be useful as well. This takes an array of primary assets and uses a timer to start loading the next one but only once the current one has been loaded.

[gentle urchin]

yeah i imagined something like that being the case

[verbal kayak]

wow, this was so helpful.

Learned couple of things additionally for what I asked.

Thank you @dark drum, @gentle urchin

[gentle urchin]

Makes my procrastination feel justified

[verbal kayak]

x-D

[dark drum]

Glad I'm not the only one. 😅

[gentle urchin]

I legit just need a break every now and then xD

been working on a refactor for soon 4 months now

the 'small architectural change' has grown into a behemoth with hydra dna

[dark drum]

Ooof. Refactoring... The necessary evil.

[gentle urchin]

the same type of work that made my quest plugin delay indefinitely

it still isnt ready (altho pretty close, finally)

[radiant pebble]

Hey, i'm trying to edit options in my game, but when I set a specific resolution, save and restart the game, the game isn't in the resolution i set previously, is that normal ?

I have to go back in my options, apply them (Weird part: when I load them, even if they aren't what I saved, the game show what I saved, not how my game is displayed)

[radiant pebble]

It's like the game start without my graphics option considered

[frozen hedge]

What do you have on your level blueprint or game instance to say check saved settings?

[radiant pebble]

when I edit an option, raise a bool at true and if i'm trying to leave the screen with this bool at true, idisplay a modal to warn the user, if he want to, he can cancel and it will reset the settings or apply them

[ocean cloak]

Why is the Progress Bar ignoring the Fill Color setting when the value is 1.0

[faint pasture]

max hp is 0

[verbal kayak]

is it ok to have 5000entries in a map?

[dark drum]

entries? Are you referring to actors?

[ocean cloak]

I did it and it worked, thank you bro

[verbal kayak]

Type of variable

im trying to generate a 50x50 grid and have individual cordinates to map. .. im getting laggy already at 50

[dark drum]

Ah ok. And probably, however, the issue itself tends to lie with using the data as you'd have to potentially loop through them which could hit performance using a BP loop.

[verbal kayak]

So what to do?

just forget about grid?

[dark drum]

Split your grid into chunks. I'd use a custom uobject for it.

[verbal kayak]

you mean like 50 entries per map something like that?

[dark drum]

I like power 2's so I'd probably do a chunk as either 8x8 or 16x16.

[verbal kayak]

grid is 50x50 but yeah i understand

how dumb i feel, i thought 2500entries in a map would be cakewalk to loop through

[solar needle]

what difference do once and gate

[dark drum]

It depends on your CPU. I used to do stuff with 100x100 grids but struggled to go much higher. Loops in C++ are significantly faster though so that's an option as well.

[solar needle]

it seems the same to me

[verbal kayak]

basically same

gate you can close on will

[frozen hedge]

Yeah

Agreed

[verbal kayak]

and do once closes as it says after first event goes through. gate can be kept open as long as you want.

[dark drum]

A do once will only do something once, unless reset. A gate can let the execution pass through while the gate is open.

Just be aware that using them in a function means its state will only apply for a given function call and is reset the next time the function is called.

A gate uses a do once inside it.

[verbal kayak]

@dark drum so even If I chunk my entries of the map into 50 different maps. Looping them all is still gonna take long?

i need to know what grid position is Available

[dark drum]

In a single tick yes, but because you've chunked your data, it'll be easier to spread stuff across ticks if needed.

Also if you want to get/modify the data, this can be faster if there's less in the map your checking.

[verbal kayak]

i dont mind to do checking across handful of ticks

[faint pasture]

What's getting laggy, iterating over everything in the map?

in BP?

[verbal kayak]

when im adding my stuff to map in bp

atleast in editor

havent tested in package/standalone

pretty ok cpu

[faint pasture]

What do you mean by adding stuff, how many things are you adding at a time?

adding to a map should be trivial

[verbal kayak]

im adding string key and 2d vector as value.

[faint pasture]

how many

[verbal kayak]

there is 50x50

so 2500 in total

[faint pasture]

thats a pretty big loop for BP

total nothingburger in C++

[verbal kayak]

yeah so divide it to many maps

Would you know how to maybe do that in c++

Im ready to convert the project to c++

relatively new project.

[faint pasture]

What's the actual thing you're doing, you're generating 50x50 what for what purpose? And it's a map and not an array why?

[verbal kayak]

i guess its quite basic?

its map cause i want to spawn something on those grid values. Then I want to also know that those grid values are taken by the spawned object. So I check before spawn is it there. Also when I destroy the objects in game, I tell that grid slot to be free again.

[faint pasture]

is it a dense or sparse grid?

[verbal kayak]

so my values are like B5 is x-2400 y-2000

[faint pasture]

is it always 50 x 50 or could you add a thing at 254, 4359 location?

[verbal kayak]

its always 50x50

[faint pasture]

in the grid coords, whatever that translates to in world coords

just use an array IMO

I mean at this small of a grid it's no biggie either way

[verbal kayak]

world coords are same as grid

[faint pasture]

a map is useful when you want a grid that's large enough to be borderline too large even for an array, and it's sparse (you got a lot of empty cells)

or it's size is undefined and variable

[verbal kayak]

hmm

2500 entries in array still ok or should i divide that too?

hmm same shit with array.

takes about 20sec to fill 2500 entries in array.

[dark drum]

Does anyone know if (in BP) it's possible to have an input to a function similar to the 'Set Members in Struct' function where you can specify which members of a struct should be updated?

[gentle urchin]

Its fine in one array

[gentle urchin]

Not possible

[dark drum]

I didn't think so but like to check in case I've missed something in an update. 😅

[solar needle]

so i guess when th code looping to reset it is simple gate

[faint pasture]

that's silly slow

show the code

[dark drum]

You can double click the macros to see how they're setup if you want more understand of the behaviour.

[gentle urchin]

Id frameslice it anyways

And do the logic carefully

Only update whats relevant to a change

[faint pasture]

an array of size 2500 is nothing, that's not the problem.
The problem is a loop of length 2500 happening in a single tick in BP. It's just not made for doing a lot of work all at once like that.

[verbal kayak]

im not filling it with a loop

im filling it with timeline

[dark drum]

I'm curious now. 😅 Show how you're doing it.

[faint pasture]

wat

show code

gotta see this

[verbal kayak]

i mean it works, and not lagging.

[gentle urchin]

Iknow, just general tip with bp loops

[faint pasture]

what in tarnation

[last peak]

First time ive seen something like this

[dark drum]

There's a lot simpler ways to do this.

[faint pasture]

I think you've made a timer here, just with a lot of extra steps

[last peak]

Pretty much ye

[faint pasture]

But you could just do it like this if you wanted to frame slice.

Tick -> done generating? -> no -> generate a bit
-> yes -> ok

or a timer but same idea

[verbal kayak]

what you mean a timer?

[last peak]

set timer by event - runs a event every x seconds

[cold raft]

Yo guys how do i make a metahuman eyes track some object?

[verbal kayak]

I know what is the timer but whats wrong using a timeline=?

its essentially a tick

[last peak]

Its essentially a timer 😄

[verbal kayak]

so whats wrong with that code?

[dark drum]

This will do what you want in a single tick.

[faint pasture]

I mean sure you CAN, but your delay in there is making it a 0.2s timer again

[verbal kayak]

yeah the timer is there just for me

[last peak]

Its just very complicated, like a timer would give you the same functionallity with less code but as long as it works who care

[faint pasture]

So why not this:
Tick -> done? -> no -> generate some
-> yes -> turn off tick (if you care, it doesn't make much of a difference at all)

[last peak]

https://tenor.com/view/do-not-touch-it-programmer-walking-cow-coding-gif-17252607

[faint pasture]

His code

[verbal kayak]

I mean are you talking about the 0.02 sec delay?

i can take it away, but does that make the code simpler?

it was there beforehand from restructured code for me to know when another coordinate map was created.

[faint pasture]

why the DoOnce?

it can be as simple as what I posted

if you're not done, do some work
if you are, turn off tick or just do nothing
being done is if the map is of size FinalSize

[verbal kayak]

i think do once is just to make sure nothing overfills

[faint pasture]

End = -1
Last = Width x Height - 1

Tick -> if End < Last -> Start = End +1 -> End = Start + 100 -> for loop from Start to End -> add stuff

That'll add 100 per frame until full

[gentle urchin]

Aka framslicing

ForeachbatchWait does the same thing

But with external coninuation

[crimson briar]

I don't want to dogpile but this BP above has to be the strangest approach I've ever seen

[faint pasture]

that built in or some community macro?

[gentle urchin]

Community / mine

[verbal kayak]

how is that macro working 2d execution

cant get it to output anything

[gentle urchin]

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