blueprint

[crimson briar]

I would suggest something like this
https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/magjysva
I moved the Move Input from the character to my custom controller - the entire controller code is in the BP.

[dark drum]

This is an old post but it's discussed here.

https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/how-do-i-use-the-savegame-flag/283064/15

[lofty rapids]

you can use get all actors of class and get the 1 index

but this unreliable

delete and remake in a different order and your fkd

[crimson briar]

Basically you have a controller manage both characters, changing only what input is applied to which one depending on the current pawn and a variable of OtherCharacter

[sharp sparrow]

How do I switch players without a level?

[dark drum]

At the mercy of UE's load order. 😅 Got to do a lot of praying with that.

[crimson briar]

I was curious how to do it myself honestly, so I went and experimented a little bit, so the code is not perfect

[lofty rapids]

ya it's just a bad idea but it'll work in a pinch lol

[dark drum]

definitely a prototype only approach.

[lofty rapids]

right, testing only

[lofty rapids]

by getting the reference in a different way, like i mentioned i wouldn't do this in this way anyway

you can loop though all characters of your class, and if it's not self maybe set that

but it would be much easier if they were children of a parent and seperate classes

but tbh i think your trying a game jam a bit soon to want to win it

i feel its an injustice to show you tbh, i'll just leave it like that for now

🤔

copy/paste doesn't help either tbh learning is essential

[sharp sparrow]

I can accept that you are right. Of course, my aim is not just to win. I always take care to make notes of everything I am taught. For this purpose, I also use the Milo app.

[lofty rapids]

you may have a great idea but doing like this is going to take too long to get anything done

[sharp sparrow]

Rather than simply copying and pasting by purchasing training courses, I try to learn. When a teacher finishes something, a few hours later, I try to do it on my own. When I make a mistake, I try again and again.

[lofty rapids]

learn the basics and things go 100x faster

[lofty rapids]

nice, thats a good way to do it, tutorials on the web can be tough to learn from if they just zoom through

but try stuff

and get an idea of whats going on

if you main problem is getting the reference

"get actor" or "get actors of class" is essential

and what a class is like fundamental #1

everything is basically a class

when you click on an object, you should be able to see what class it is

or if your in a bp, the class is literally the name of the bp

[lofty rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzOhjmU7LJE

personally i can't be bothered with showing people this stuff

watch some tuts

[sharp sparrow]

I have courses like this too, and I continue to learn whenever I have time.

[lofty rapids]

it just takes time mostly

and doing it over and over again

[lofty rapids]

if your main problem is the reference...

[lofty rapids]

^

because in your setup there are two of the same class

this is challenging to get the right one

but essentially get all actors of class

then loop

personally in a situation like this i use a boolean

[sharp sparrow]

Yes, I understand. Now I'll look at how to create the parent. After that, I'll reference it and obtain the child. The child will have the opposite controls.

[lofty rapids]

i put a boolean on the actor, and true for the main one

so loop through

and the boolean is false

then thats the "other actor"

this way you can have multiple "other actors"

by just switching booleans around

[sharp sparrow]

Actually, I already have such a variable.

[lofty rapids]

ok so this is the variable you mentioned

nice

yes this is a good way

[lofty rapids]

^

then loop ... and check the boolean

[sharp sparrow]

So should I delete all the nodes within the level?

[lofty rapids]

idk

🤔

you can use the level bp if you want

it's not recommended usually that i know of

i would just disconnect the stuff

this way it doesn't run and interfere

but you can reconnect it to get it to work again

like if you just want to revert it back for some reason

[sharp sparrow]

Right, I'm trying something, let's see if it works.

If I duplicate this mesh and link it as a child, will I achieve the desired result?

[lofty rapids]

i don't think so

[lofty rapids]

what you do is in the content browser, right click third person character, and click create child

then duplicate the child

[lofty rapids]

you don't need to parent child, if you get actors of class with the boolean

there two completely seperate ways of doing this

[lofty rapids]

you would have two mesh on the same character, but you can't add movement input to a mesh

it needs to be a pawn

it's a completely seperate way of doing it

there are many ways to program a thing usually

[sharp sparrow]

Yes, I did that.

[lofty rapids]

what is this showing exactly ?

that you have two of the same thing

i feel like we are just goin in circles

put everything back to how it was and show me you got

you can read what i wrote and maybe learn about it

google it or something

[lofty rapids]

^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLwseuHI-wk

[sharp sparrow]

I pulled everything back to the beginning. And I created a child.

[lofty rapids]

ok so before you do this, question is: are these two seperate characters ?

or when you change one should the other change as well ?

[lofty rapids]

ok so you want two children

just duplicate the new one

[sharp sparrow]

Yes, I created a child as you said.

[lofty rapids]

^

are you skipping messages ?

[lofty rapids]

^

you don't technically need two but thats what i would do

[sharp sparrow]

No, no. I am reading, of course. I was just replying to your last post.

[lofty rapids]

ya i'm rediculously fast with typing and this stuff lol

[sharp sparrow]

Each character will be used separately.

[lofty rapids]

ya this way you can customize them as well

seperately

using the other way you would only have one character duplicated

so creating custom one would be pain in the ass

this way you can customize each character seperately

but they still share from parent

so it's really nice to do it this way

imo

now take the two characters out of your seen

and place the two children in

so now they are two different classes

but i'm not going to guide you through how to use these nodes you'll need to look that up

it's just get actor of class

[sharp sparrow]

I don't think I should duplicate it this way, is that right?Yes, I removed both of them and created a “Get All Actors of Class Node”.

[lofty rapids]

geez i can't stand the repeats, i'm a bid of a nut job lol

[lofty rapids]

wtf

[lofty rapids]

your mixing up the info

i don't think you understood what i'm saying

its different ways to do the same thing

you don't need actors of class

what is add child actor component all of a sudden about ?

what is this for ?

helping can be really frustrating lol but i'm ok i think

[sharp sparrow]

I've never done this before, so I don't know what the right move is.

[lofty rapids]

ya it's real difficult to help when you not know much about blueprints

i usually just leave it alone anyway

and say watch tuts

[lofty rapids]

well it's not that lol

[dusky cobalt]

you literally watched just one tutorial and the rest is like 3% completed? 😄 really go watch this video engage gave you to understand blueprints so we can even help you with basic things

and try to get the basic things and what tools you have before you even try to understand how

[lofty rapids]

you don't want any of those nodes "get actor of class" is now what you want, but after that is another thing, and another thing

but if you don't understand "get actor of class" then idk what to say because it's literally what the name says

[lofty rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPpypap53lE

hopefully this helps ^.^

imagine having to show the basics to everyone who came in here

the target of the add movement input is the pawn to move

self is the current bp

you want to add another movement input, and set the target to the other bp

which you can get by it's class

it's very simple if you understand what a class is and how nodes work

^.^

[supple charm]

how could i make a static mesh in a blueprint stay upwards all the time? using set rotation in tick works but can i not use tick?

[lofty rapids]

have you tried the constraints ?

[supple charm]

yea

[lofty rapids]

i usually use tick

to make something always face a direction

it makes sense

[supple charm]

alright

[lofty rapids]

will you be doing this on a lot of bp ?

don't be too worried about tick

i run a lot on tick personally and it's pretty smooth

[supple charm]

only on 1

[lofty rapids]

ya it should be fine

[supple charm]

okay thanks

[supple charm]

how much will tick affect the performance tho? is it always better to use anything else that also works the same way? I've only heard that it's only good if specifically its needed to, because it can lower the performance

[lofty rapids]

i mean logically it runs every tick so it can be an overhead. although you can run a lot on it and it's fine.

if you can avoid it sure go for something that can replace the code

but it's not a huge deal untill you start seeing fps drops

it just depends on what your doing

if your setting a rotation on tick for one thing your fine

even 50 things your probably fine

100 maybe even idk the actual numbers

you start doing 1000 of them and maybe you'll notice something

even then idk the actual numbers

but you can do a lot on tick and see absolutely no drop in fps

avoid putting a bunch of logic on it for the sake of it runs every frame

the more you put the more it multiplies

so if you have a lot of logic then it would probably see drop at a lower amount

i wouldn't say "avoid tick", i would just say learn how to use it most efficiently

[supple charm]

alright thank you so much, so basic nodes like math and basically basic c++ functions wont really affect anything

and seeing if a bool is true wont also take any fps whatsoever im assuming

[lofty rapids]

not that i'm aware of

[dusky cobalt]

I believe Fortnite has like 500 running ticks at the start of the game and then they go down as game goes to the end.

not sure about exact number but it's 'a lot' and the game still runs smoothly

[supple charm]

what are the ticks for?

[lofty rapids]

if it's c++ your in better shape

[dusky cobalt]

you can even make tick be less frequent or turn it off when not needed and turn on when needed etc.

[supple charm]

can i turn tick off with bp/code on certain bp?

[dusky cobalt]

yes, enable tick

[supple charm]

oh thank you so much

[dusky cobalt]

or for actor is the same

if you set Enabled to false it will turn it off basically

[supple charm]

yeah yeah

where do you get the custom node textures and such?

[lofty rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5a9oB7602g

[dusky cobalt]

also here you can disable it at the start or make it tick less frequent like 0.5 instead of every frame

[dusky cobalt]

oh do you mean the look of my blueprint nodes?

[supple charm]

yeah just wasnt aware i can set its state on bp

[supple charm]

yes

ive seen some but i would guess on fab?

[sharp sparrow]

@lofty rapids Could you please check your inbox?

[dusky cobalt]

It's just Flat Nodes plugin and there is other one Electric Nodes and I do not recommend it, it's shit

I think Flat Nodes might be free

let me check how it was called

[supple charm]

yeah found it

crystal nodes looks interesting

[dusky cobalt]

yeah it's really nice

oh this one i dont know 😄 it's personal opinion I guess 😄

I like it simple

[spark steppe]

maybe you just want to set it to absolute rotation in the BP (which you can do in the details => transform and then click on scale rotation, which is a dropdown)

that way it will keep it's world rotation and not rotate with the actor

[supple charm]

?

[spark steppe]

yea but that's not the details panel...

[supple charm]

oh my bad

[supple charm]

you mean something like this?

[spark steppe]

now click on scale rotation

[supple charm]

rotation type to world?

[spark steppe]

i guess

[supple charm]

oh it does work, thank you so much!

[stone field]

Blueprint Assistant, Node Graph Assistant and Autosize Comments for the win

( more functional stuff than aesthetic )
auto formatting, sticky comment bubbles, lots of cool stuff

[crimson briar]

If you are still not satisfied, there is some info about ticks in the pinned messages. One of them is a link to an official Unreal youtube video with "Myth busting" some of the common misconceptions

[pine carbon]

I want to add a traceable aspect to my players so they can be detected by, well, traces. What would be the benefits of doing an Object channel vs a Trace channel?

[dusky cobalt]

Hard to call them benefits, it's more how you organize your collisions. It doesn't really matter because in the settings all you have to do is set for your player to block that channel (either object channel or trace channel) and that's it.

[pine carbon]

Alright. New question. I'm testing with the default CharacterMesh profile. Why does this register hits on the floor? Floor is set to BlockAllDynamic. Do I misunderstand how this works?

Oh and is there a way to get Unreal to render the actual sphere trace itself and not just the hit results?

[dusky cobalt]

You can use Debug Sphere Trace

for this function, let me read what it does I never used it

I'm using by Object or by Channel usually

So it will check what this Profile blocks and look for that.

Which isn't really intuitive.

[pine carbon]

If those would be better I'd use them.

[dusky cobalt]

The best if you:

• Create new Collision Channel - PlayerChannel
• On Player go to collision settings and tell it to PlayerChannel block
• Sphere Trace by Channel (PlayerChannel)

now it will only look for players or objects that block that PlayerChannel

ofc change names etc. as you really want them

like for example in my game I have Resources and then I just look for Resources when I want to find them

[pine carbon]

How does the Object one work? I haven't been able to figure that out at all. Unreal sucks at explaining what Blueprint nodes do.

[dusky cobalt]

It's the same, like you create object collision Player and you set it to block

you don't have to set it AS object

just to it Blocks it

it might be not intuitive but it works literally the same

the difference is how you find objects with Sphere Trace

[pine carbon]

I don't know how to get something that the Object Types pin will accept.

[dusky cobalt]

you just have to Make Array

and specify objects you want to consider

[pine carbon]

Okay cool.

I'll see if I can get that to work.

[dusky cobalt]

and then these things have to block at least one of ''Object'' channel

what is important is the one in the rectangle

the arrows is what might be confusing in case of looking by channel/object

it's almost like for the game it's the same thing just name differently in case of sphere traces

it's different if you have Building and Unit and you want them to block each other (then you set ObjectType) and each of them block each other

but sphere trace is straightforward

Sphere Trace -> Block Channel/Object (rectangle) -> it will be detected

[pine carbon]

I added an Object channel named Player and set default behavior to Ignore. Then I changed my Player's collision to Block it. It should now be the ONLY thing that can register on that trace, right?

[dusky cobalt]

Show screenshots just to be sure

but yes

actually, yes, almost always set to ignore when you create new channels

unless there is something specific but you will know

[dusky cobalt]

I'm wondering if this is because of my pc or something, but if I click play first time after launching the editor I have to wait like 10s sometimes for the game to start. Is this normal or should I be doing something so it's not like that? The second time I click play it's quick.

[maiden wadi]

Sounds like asset loading.

[dusky cobalt]

Is it bad if it happens like that? Should I be worried and do something about it or can let it be? I guess it's gonna get worse? 😄

[maiden wadi]

Depends. Do you run with the debugger attached?

Like launching from Rider/VS with F5?

[dusky cobalt]

No, currently just without debugger

[maiden wadi]

Try it with debugger. See if you get any ensures. They can also cause that kind of first time hitch. Cause if they're only Ensures and not like ensureAlways, they'll only hit once and they can cause a lag spike like that without the debugger.

If it's not an ensure. Profile time.

[surreal peak]

Although 10s ensure lag would be incredible

[spark steppe]

i feel like it's validating bunch of stuff, since i get all my "nanite mesh with unsupported translucency" warnings on first launch, too (while they don't happen on 2nd play)

[dusky cobalt]

Yea it must be something with assets.. I have to try with shipping build if its similiar

okay shipping build is literally insta launching

and some assets are not loaded but it's like 0.3/4s delay

[maiden wadi]

We get to half cheat that, cause pretty much 95% of our assets are used in every game. So we preload them in the main menu async while the user is even getting into a game with bundling. Doesn't help much if we start PIE from a content map though.

[dusky cobalt]

Ahh okay

[surreal peak]

99% sure it's asset loading. You probably have tons of hard references :D

[dusky cobalt]

😄

[maiden wadi]

Time to trim some 4k textures. 😄

I'm so happy pixels can only get so small. I don't want to live to see games with 32k textures on normal assets.

[dusky cobalt]

hahaha

[trim matrix]

https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/fs4-3eh8/ so like this? sry for the late response, pc has been giving me issues

[mental rampart]

any advice for when only one of your projects doesn't open and crashes your GPU?

[surreal peak]

Check when it started and go back a few commits to see when it stops?
Delete Saved and Intermediate and try again?
Dose it crash on other peeps PC?

[mental rampart]

Deleted Saved and Intermediate and try again?

that might work

[lofty rapids]

i mean it works, but it's just saying not in scope ?

[spark steppe]

welcome to the wonderful world of BP debugger

i think you could turn it into a non-pure node and then it would cache the value

[dusky cobalt]

almost but you have to plug variable of new array, i mean it should work but just get array again and plug it to b e sure

[trim matrix]

ohh so like dragging it in from the side n getting it that way? instead of pulling off the set node?

[dusky cobalt]

yes

[trim matrix]

now its still not working, the length of the array always prints as 0

the pickup bps can be collected, then on reload, they are visible but collisoin disabled, then on second reload they reset and become collectable again

[dusky cobalt]

do you know how to debug blueprints? check if when you pick up thing does it get added to the array or not/

[trim matrix]

using breakpoints?

bc when adding one to the add node it hits

[dusky cobalt]

it hits what? !!SAVED!! ?

[trim matrix]

if i put a breakpoint on the add node, the breakpoint hits

[spark steppe]

please show more of the graph

[trim matrix]

when collecting a pickup bp, it prints saved, but the print that updates the array length never changes

[dusky cobalt]

but where are you getting from reference to the pick up object?

[trim matrix]

already have https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/fs4-3eh8/

[dusky cobalt]

what is CLIPID ?

[trim matrix]

the id of the clip bp

[dusky cobalt]

from this context like it's null?

[trim matrix]

the clip bp itself

its set instance editable

[dusky cobalt]

when you breakpoint you can check values

[trim matrix]

for the id

[dusky cobalt]

show us what is clipId when it gets added

[trim matrix]

its at 0

*09

the id i set to the clip

[dusky cobalt]

in the level editor?

[trim matrix]

yes

[dusky cobalt]

ok and show where you set the struct array just to be sure?

like Set Members

[trim matrix]

the set members is right after,

[dusky cobalt]

yea screenshot it..

[trim matrix]

the value is 0 off the local variable get thats plugged into the set members

[dusky cobalt]

why did you make it local variable?

this local ids

[trim matrix]

bc you said to 😭

[dusky cobalt]

ye, to create new array but no 'local' local

when you access that struct it's not reference to the array but copy, so if you want add to it it won't get added 'there' just like that

so you need first to set it to array that is 'local' in bp

then add to that 'local' array

[spark steppe]

when you hit the breakpoint the addunique hasn't executed yet

[dusky cobalt]

and set struct with that array

[spark steppe]

therefor BP debugger sees the array as empty

step a node further

[trim matrix]

so this?

[dusky cobalt]

yea and also as Ben said step further

[spark steppe]

that shouldn't be the issue, i would keep it local in function scope

[trim matrix]

i put one further and the local id array says 1 now

[dusky cobalt]

i one time had problem with local variables so have a bit of trauma with them

[spark steppe]

yea i think you had misinterpreted the issue tbh

local stuff works fine and you should not avoid it for your own sanity 😄

[dusky cobalt]

so now it prints length 1 and still the rest doesnt work?

[dusky cobalt]

i had function that was using array of decals that was local and when it was local the functions wasn't working, swapped just to normal global variable, didn't change anything and it worked so yeah.. not using these anymore 😄

[trim matrix]

if i try to print the length of the saved array its 0 on reloading, if i printt he length og the local id array its also 0 on reload

[spark steppe]

promote the struct to a local variable

i feel like it has issues with modifying the output of the node, as this might be a const variable 🤷

[lofty rapids]

what is this save player function ?

a custom function you made ? how you didn't have to cast ?

is it in a BFL, or in the current BP ?

[spark steppe]

it's a interface function call

[lofty rapids]

i see so the game instance is implementing this interface

[spark steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[lofty rapids]

what does save player look like ?

[lofty rapids]

for one thing you can use a fresh get and not the output of the set

the print string is showing 0 ?

[lofty rapids]

i would try this first

[lofty rapids]

"If you use the output value directly from the Set node's output pin, it will always give you the value that was set by that specific Set node, regardless of any subsequent changes to the variable." -claude.ai

[spark steppe]

they changed that already!?

#blueprint message

[lofty rapids]

Oh i see

so whats the issue then it's not saving ?

or it's not loading ?

[trim matrix]

like this?

[spark steppe]

no wait

before that

where you get it from the other function which is half on the screenshot on the left

[trim matrix]

both, only some of the save struct is saving like player transform but the clip ids im trying to check to make them only collectable and visible if the player hasnt already collected it

[trim matrix]

shit prolly also need it connected to the set members?

[spark steppe]

yea, especially there

[spark steppe]

ok, test it?!

[trim matrix]

still the same issue

[lofty rapids]

is the new length correct ?

[spark steppe]

wait

try to get the variable on it's own

[trim matrix]

no it still prints 0

[spark steppe]

instead of using the output of the set node

it needs a reference, idk what the set node returns

[lofty rapids]

why are you doing addunique ?

perhaps a map would be more usefull

[trim matrix]

still printing 0

[trim matrix]

just the one i used, ive been trying to debug this for days

[spark steppe]

then i suspect your save function or your loading to have an issue

[lofty rapids]

check the length before you save

[trim matrix]

im just trying to acomplish, each clip has an id, when player picks the clip up, the id is saved to an array, then when the game reloads it dosnt respawn/reset the clips already collected

[trim matrix]

it never changes from 0

now it is wtf

[lofty rapids]

if it is before you save then the save is overwriting it

[trim matrix]

the clips call save game when picked up, the array length is back at 0 when loading but counts up when playing a game still, each neqw clip collected saves again so i dont think its being overwritten

bc it still counts up

but is back at 0 whne loading

[lofty rapids]

ok so it's saving

[lofty rapids]

i see so the length is good before saving

your save works

check the saved values just before you load them

then check the load function

[trim matrix]

the player transofrm is being set when saving and is laoding fine

[lofty rapids]

i mean i don't know how that relates

you need seperate values

can you show the save and load functions

are they big yet ?

[trim matrix]

i just meant that the loading is working in some capacity

[lofty rapids]

i see

[trim matrix]

the save game and load game arent big but the use player data and get player data kinda are

[lofty rapids]

basically like what i do is just save before transfer, load in the player character begin play

but i can't tell what is going on without seeing it

i only know what i've seen

[trim matrix]

this is in the player bp, https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/br3y7th1/ https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/ix6x9kzi/

[lofty rapids]

ok so forget about use player save for a moment

[lofty rapids]

on is valid print the value from value your trying to get

[lofty rapids]

where do you implement this interface function ?

[trim matrix]

it prints 4

[lofty rapids]

which is correct or ?

what are you trying to get

[lofty rapids]

i see so you where do you actually define the function though ?

there is somewhere where you this is defined in your bp

[trim matrix]

huh?

[lofty rapids]

have you used an interface before ?

[trim matrix]

idk if save and loading is rly working correctly as theres no save file in my savegames folder

[trim matrix]

yes

[lofty rapids]

well the way it works is you define the function on the bp, so in your game instance

there should be a function that is get game data

[trim matrix]

https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/0tfunjdm/

[lofty rapids]

is it supposed to be 4 ?

[lofty rapids]

for one thing these are events not functions

[trim matrix]

it should be 0 if no clips are collected, and whatever number of clips collected if not, idk which clips are collected tho bc they are all still showing as visible, so lemme try n raise the number printed n see if it stays

[lofty rapids]

which works, but you don't get a return value

[lofty rapids]

this doesn't say errrror ?

[trim matrix]

it prints the correct collected clip number on loading

[lofty rapids]

oh i see you have have it returning the ref

[trim matrix]

no

wdym

[lofty rapids]

i see your not calling the load event here, when do you call it ?

[trim matrix]

sry i thought i copied it into the thing its in the instance on event init

[lofty rapids]

your calling the function which gets the ref

i would just implement this all in the function

[lofty rapids]

this loads once

when the game initially runs

so your using the same ref most likely

that was loaded on start

[trim matrix]

so where should i move it to

im slightly confused sry

[lofty rapids]

call it in the interface function before you return

[trim matrix]

call load game, in which function inside the instance or the stuff in the player

[lofty rapids]

you want to load things, you have a load function

and a load event

the event actually does the loading

[trim matrix]

thats what load game data is

[lofty rapids]

you have an event and a function

the event needs to run

to do the actual saving

the function just returns the reference

[lofty rapids]

yes you need to run this

[trim matrix]

add load game at the end of this?

[lofty rapids]

no

you need to run that event

in the function

[trim matrix]

which function

[lofty rapids]

your loading things

the load the function

[trim matrix]

which one 😭

the player one w all the data

or the one i sent the screenshot of

[lofty rapids]

the one you circles that is literally "load"

[trim matrix]

thats what this one is tho

they are the same

[lofty rapids]

oh its get

lol

not load

get game data

[trim matrix]

add load inside the get game data

im lost now

[lofty rapids]

hmm...

the one you circled is where you load data ?

when do you call the actual load event ?

[trim matrix]

the one i circled gets it

[lofty rapids]

yes but it doesn't actually get it

it just returns the ref

the event actually loads from the save game

so when do you call it ?

[trim matrix]

ig i dont idk im confused, im calling get game data

[lofty rapids]

ook so did you write this ?

you have an event

it loads from save

do you see that ? you sent it to me

[trim matrix]

this

[lofty rapids]

yes when do you call it ?

[trim matrix]

the get game data needs an output of the struct, to then pass to the load?

[lofty rapids]

no

[trim matrix]

event init in the instance only

[lofty rapids]

[lofty rapids]

this is not get game data

[trim matrix]

im genuinely trying to understand

[lofty rapids]

i'm try to help

[trim matrix]

im aware, u asked ab the loading one

[lofty rapids]

your confusion is confusing

[trim matrix]

you asked about the laod

load*

i replied to it and you said yes

you asked where i call it, i sent where i call load

[lofty rapids]

ok...

do you know that you have like 100 load events/functions

this is out of control lol

just load/save

[trim matrix]

i dont 😭

i have get game data and load game data

i have get player save and use player save

[lofty rapids]

and a load event

which your not calling

[trim matrix]

i dont have a load event

load game data is the loading i have

[lofty rapids]

0.0

yes this event

so you when you want to load

call this

then call get game data

or

inside get game data

call this event

[trim matrix]

i already said that i was calling it in the even init, i am using it

[lofty rapids]

which would be easier

ya thats not doing anything

it runs once on load

that is all

thats your save game right ?

[trim matrix]

so should i be loading off begin play of the character? bc thats where the get player save is

[lofty rapids]

well so this is working ?

it prints correctly ?

or doesn't ?

[trim matrix]

yea it prints the count collected, but only bc of the event init load, if i disconnect it the loading errors out

[lofty rapids]

ok it prints count collected so that is fine

it works correct ?

leave it alone ig

whats not working ?

The count collected

[trim matrix]

when i load, the last clip i collected recollects, the clips that re collected already are supposed to stay inactive, but instead they dont, then if i exit and load again, the clips i collected all reset and are collectable again

[lofty rapids]

I wish you code wasn't so confusing maybe I'm slow lol

[trim matrix]

im trying

[lofty rapids]

It's really as simple as storing a variable in the instance

[lofty rapids]

It's np I'm just a bit confused so idk ...

[trim matrix]

https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/7zf4zb0f/ https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/ehghd2t6/

this is the clip bp

[lofty rapids]

You've shown way too much code, narrow this down

[trim matrix]

the issue lies somewhere in the checking of initalizing the clip

thats where i have narrowed it down before

bc the false branch off the active bool should handle not making them collectable again if the player save struct contains said clips id already on load

[lofty rapids]

Does this length print correct ?

[trim matrix]

no

[lofty rapids]

Ok let's silify this, save on a key press and load on keypress

[trim matrix]

i have that

[lofty rapids]

And see what happens

Show that code

[lofty rapids]

But your not checking the data

Check the data

When you save

Check the data

[trim matrix]

wdym

[lofty rapids]

When you load

Check the data

[lofty rapids]

I mean like print string the data

Literally what I said check the data

[trim matrix]

pressing the input to save or load dosntseem to be working

nothing happens

[lofty rapids]

Check the data

Get game data

Check the fukn data lol

[spark steppe]

sir, this is a christian minecraft discord server

[lofty rapids]

Lol I keep it mostly clean

[lofty rapids]

These are your events do you what they are doing ?

It's probably saving or loading or not you don't know until you check

I still get frustrated sometimes when I'm trying to help

Some people understand what I'm saying some people dont

😆

After awhile I get burnt out lol

[atomic solstice]

Quick Q: what's a simple way to ignore modifiers for a keyboard event?
Tutorials I'm finding are old and key events just have a "key struct" rather than a "key event struct"

[trim matrix]

prints 0

[trim matrix]

im sry 😭

[lofty rapids]

What prints zero ?

[trim matrix]

the array length when loading

[lofty rapids]

No it's not personal

[lofty rapids]

What is it after saving ?

[trim matrix]

its the count after saving but then if i exit and try to load its at 0, of i stay in the game and load, it stays, the count that was previously updating properly now is also 0 when loading

[trim matrix]

this is 0 on load now

but only if i use the save and load input keys

otherwise its still working

[lofty rapids]

Check the branches of this load

Check to see there's a slot

Then see which way it goes after you save

Hit save

Hit load

Check it see what it prints

[trim matrix]

it finds the slot

even after exiting if i press load input again it prints slot found

[lofty rapids]

Show the save event

Other things Re loading fine though ?

Using just save and load events

[trim matrix]

not w input events but when using save from inside the clip and load off event init its working or seems to be

[lofty rapids]

I gtg, good luck

[trim matrix]

welp im lost for rn 😭

[meager spade]

Those events are not meant to be used for other things than debugging anyways. Google Axis and Action bindings and you'll be able to add alt as a modifier key(or only listen for a specific key without modifiers if that's what you wanted)

[pastel apex]

unsure if this is a case of "make your own movement component" deal but, is there a way to prevent movement mode changes from on landing events? I have a weird case where my flying enemy when it bumps into another enemy while falling, classifies as landing on the ground (triggers landed event) which causes the movement mode to go from falling back to its default movement mode of flying

[sharp sparrow]

I'm making a mistake somewhere, but I can't figure out where. The character should start taking damage one second after the game begins, but it isn't.

[crimson briar]

Current health is not connected on the second image. Also I don't see any code related to "taking damage after one second" here

[sharp sparrow]

Blimey, is Event Anydamage not working then?

[lunar sleet]

That event will fire when your char takes damage

Nothing to do with 1s elapsed

Also the very first branch seems entirely pointless 🙂

[sharp sparrow]

I'll start over from the beginning

[lunar sleet]

Begin play is a decent place to start if you’re looking for game start. It’s got by no means a precise timing but prly good enough for your purposes

[crimson briar]

What you have is an implementation of the event AnyDamage. But it doesn't trigger by itself, somewhere else you have to call the event to deal damage.

[sharp sparrow]

I rewrote it like this. Now I'll complete the HUD content.

[lunar sleet]

Usually you want to use set timer by event for events but this prly does the job here

[sharp sparrow]

What I'm trying to do is exactly this:
Level 2 characters spawn. Both have a shared health bar. When one character lasts 10 seconds, we start taking damage because the other character isn't being used. That's why I'm trying to use a timer. If there's something wrong, I'll change it immediately based on your suggestions.

I think I got this part right too.

[lunar sleet]

I just meant the node: set timer by event as opposed to set timer by function. But if it works and you’re not doing anything that takes more than one tick within than event it’s prly fine

[sharp sparrow]

Actually, there is a problem, we're not taking any damage :/

[lunar sleet]

You might be meaning to use set percent not get percent for that progress bar

And bear in mind that the way progress bars work is floats between 0 and 1, tho that division you have should cover for that

[sharp sparrow]

It's working right now. But it's not working the way I want it to 😄 Using Set Timer, I take damage every 5 seconds. But what I want is for a character to stay for more than 10 seconds, and then take damage every second.

[dusky cobalt]

so you need 2 timers

first one starts count to 10 then triggers the one other that loops every 1s and deals dmg

[sharp sparrow]

So how can I tell the timer that the character has changed?

[dusky cobalt]

like when? this question needs more content it's out of blue a bit?

character tells, hey I changed, timer reacts to it

event dispatcher, direct event

I think you need to get a paper and write what you want down like instructions in a normal language

and try to get this right

[sharp sparrow]

Okay, I'm trying to do something.

[crimson briar]

Drag from the blue output of the timer node and set it as a variable

The second timer will have to have a second variable

Then you can cancel/pause the timer

[dusky cobalt]

like
One timer/event StartThis starts countdown for 10seconds - done
After 10seconds another timer starts call it DamageTick - done

it loops every 1s until player is dead or until I change character

Ok so you need a way to Stop The Damage and probably start 10s count again?

So you need Refresh ''State' -> Clear DamageTick and startStartThis

How are we gonna RefreshState?

in PlayerCharacter or where you change player you need ref to this blueprint OR have this blueprint have ref to character and then:
In character create event dispatcher: OnCharacterChanged
and bind to it in where you do 'damage' and call RefreshState

if you have it written like this it's much better to now create code out of it

[sharp sparrow]

I used a timer at the end and wrote 10 seconds. I also added a branch at the beginning of Checktime and set it to 0. However, it failed. I will do as you said.

[keen tulip]

Hello people ^^

Been trying to find a solution for this problem for some time now, and nothing I try work unfortunately.
most likely because my lack of vector math knowledge and conversion of screen space and all that black magic but yes. xD

Wondering if there is a way for me to calculate and set an offset for the mouse cursor to match my trace
in the world from a visual stand point. (did find a really old post that did this, but unfortunately it broke down completely when introducing height differences)

Been thinking of having a image in the player hud widget and just move it accordingly, but the problem with calculating the offset is still something I could use some help with. (Maybe I should post this in UMG under UI if this solution is the better option?)

What I have.

Pic 1

What I would like

Pic 2

Thanks for any help or input.

[dusky moat]

hey peeps, im using spectator pawn as playeble character and want to add widget to it.
And its abit wierd, since and dosent have arm or camera and widget being drawn in world even if its set to screen.
Dose it requres come additinal scripting? what should i do?

[dusky cobalt]

What is it for? like what is the point of this? You click on the ground but you want for the hit to be up on Z axis?

because you want to shoot bullet there and not to the ground?

[keen tulip]

Where the mouse cursor is on the screen one would expect the projectile to hit.
But since the projectile will follow the red arrow the "perception" on where you are aiming is off.

[ebon olive]

how do i set it to false? like appear only once? not appear it per frame on debug sphere

[dusky cobalt]

duration 0.05s

[ebon olive]

oh it works. thanks.

wtf.. it didnt explain what duration means in this context 😭 unreal pls. but anyway ty tho!! 🙏🏻

[dusky cobalt]

I think I would expect projectile to hit like that if I click here

so it always follow your cursor

why would I want it to hit always 50 offset up? and how do you decide this offset if you actually aim north?

[keen tulip]

that is what I mean, I want to change this so it matches

[dusky cobalt]

and if you want it to be like on Z axis of the player then you need to add offset Z

[keen tulip]

but the red arrow is the actual "look at rotation"

[dusky cobalt]

you need to add offset Z to where you clicked

but for the line to be straight, you also have to add the starting point Z location

so like +100 here and +100 there right

because if you won't then it willlook like yellow line

start at 0Z and ends at 200Z

[sharp sparrow]

I set it up like this, what do you think?

[dusky cobalt]

if this is in the same blueprint you can just call RefreshState instead of even dispatcher.. I thought its in different blueprints

but yeah the only thing is that you have to bind on begin play

and OnCharacter_Event calls RefreshState

which currently isn't doing what I said

[sharp sparrow]

So, what happens if I update it this way?

[dusky cobalt]

What do you think should happen?

I think it's clear you first Call Event and then Bind. Do you think it's gonna work?

or should binding take place way before you Call so that thing that binded will fire?

[sharp sparrow]

Since this is my first time doing this, it's taking me a while to figure out exactly how it should be done.

[dusky cobalt]

and does the binding needs to happen every time you click? or does it need to happen once?

[sharp sparrow]

The time should be reset with each change

[dusky cobalt]

im asking you questions so it triggers your brain in right way, try to anserw them

[sharp sparrow]

Good move, but right now, when I change characters, the timer doesn't reset, so I keep taking damage. This is a bit annoying.

[dusky cobalt]

ok so do you think the program knows itself when to call function you called RefreshState?

or do you need to tell it WHEN to trigger it?

which would be after each character change yes?

just forget dispatchers/bindings for now, it's not relevant in this case

[sharp sparrow]

That's exactly what's confusing me then.

[keen tulip]

I'll give it a go and see, but that will have to be after work.
Thanks for help 🙂

[sharp sparrow]

Could you send me a node system that explains how I should connect? I'm really confused, and no matter where I connect, the Bind event isn't working. Well, it works, but it doesn't work when we want it to.

[dusky cobalt]

All you have to do is call RefreshState here

yellow boxes are literally RefreshState

but if you don't understand why then you really have to go and watch some tutorials how blueprints works

[sharp sparrow]

Yes, I watch it constantly and try to learn. I also ask questions when I get stuck.

[high scarab]

Hey, what does this part of the doc mean? Which Blueprint nodes (besides latent nodes) work in macros but not in member functions?

Macros can use any node for the class they're scoped to (the class you pick when you create a new Macro Blueprint, or if it's a local macro, the class the macro is defined in). This means that you have a little more versatility in the nodes you can put in a macro.

[lofty garden]

Hello everyone!

I am lookin for a help with a specific problem, I want that when I do Crouch using the Crouch Function, to immediately go back to the same previous position before Crouch function was called, I am using the Event On Start Crouch to do that. That works if say I use the Camera Root World Location, but it doesn't work with the Camera Root Relative location. The print returns as if I didn't move on Z, but it actually did move in game

Blue print is before Crouch input, Pink is after Crouch is triggered, Green is after Event OnStartCrouch Set Relative location

[dark drum]

If you're using the character class, crouching just lowers the z height of the capsule component. Adding to this, the camera is normally attached to something else, whether its a skeletal mesh or spring arm so directly setting the relative offset probably isn't what you're after.

[hidden fossil]

So before I post the blueprint graph which controls the charge shot in my game (as I ended up needing to recompile the engine first) I was wondering if it would help with troubleshooting the sound continuation issue by removing the event definition which is called by the attack trigger to do the processing and attach it directly to the input event.

Would that possibly have any effect on the matter?

[lofty rapids]

wdym "sound continuation" ?

[hidden fossil]

What I mean is that if the charge is released while actively moving, the sound effect is properly terminated and the attack launched, but if you're in a position where you don't have control over movement (let's say that you are going through a door, or the boss warning has been triggered) then the sound effect keeps playing even after releasing the attack under certain conditions

[lofty rapids]

idk anything about your game

so is there a boolean or something ?

that checks for movement ?

idk what your saying

[lofty rapids]

" the sound effect keeps playing even after releasing the attack under certain conditions" <-- show the release code

[hidden fossil]

I may require a few minutes to get the blueprint graph image (as I am on a remote connection to the dev station right now) but what I will say to start with is that the first of two primary bool values is called "Focus Charging," and if this is true then the attack has a charge function. The other primary bool is simply called "charging" and is essentially self-explanatory in what it indicates regarding the charge state

[lofty rapids]

ok would need to see code to see whats going on

[hidden fossil]

I can work on that in a minute or so, but I would like to make note of the secondary bool values first. The first is called "charge active" and is set as it is described by name, and then compared to the value of "charging" to see if they are both true relative to the state checks for releasing the attack. The other is "cancel charge" and is intended to discard the charge state in situations that don't make sense regarding the game loop.

Beyond this are a couple of tertiary bool values that control whether or not the attack has been triggered, as well as whether or not it can be used at all.

In any case, the remote connection seems to have malfunctioned and I need to wait for it to reset before posting the relevant portions of the blueprint graph, if not when I physically get back to my desk

[hidden fossil]

So here's the check to see if charging is active - if the result value is false, the charge shot is released so long as the player has control

At that point, the first thing that is supposed to happen is for the sound effect to stop playing, after which the "continue charging" bool is set to false

Problem is that for some reason, the stop node might not be processed correctly under the circumstances that I mentioned

As a side note, there are actually two different sound effect definitions - the first one is the rising pitch as power is built up, and the other is the main loop for a full charge

I can add the graphs for the door and boss conditions to the list if you need them, but for now, these are the main concerns

[lofty rapids]

so if charging and charge active ? stop the audio ?

these images don't show me much all i see is a branch

[hidden fossil]

Only if the active charge test returns false

[dark drum]

These screenshots aren't helpful. You need to show as many nodes as possible so people can actually see the logic.

[hidden fossil]

I'm almost to my desk, though

So I can give you a better view in a few minutes

and here's the logic in question up to the point where the sound is supposed to stop playing

[lofty rapids]

ok so if chargin and charge active are false ?

so both have to be false for it to stop

[hidden fossil]

actually, charge active has to be false

[lofty rapids]

watch the booleans in debug, see which one is not false

see if it's one or both when it glitches

[hidden fossil]

charging is turned off after the sfx is stopped

what I mean is that once active charging is set to false, the sound stops and charging is set to false in turn

[lofty rapids]

well the problem is it's not stopping

so one of those booleans is true

if you watch them

[lofty rapids]

^

in debug you might be able to see which one

and is saying if they are both true, so you want false

[hidden fossil]

and I think I know where to check this, probably not for every situation though (just where I have the problem)

[lofty rapids]

if both are not true could be true,false, false,false, false,true

but they are both true still

and not going to false

or it would stop

[hidden fossil]

that would make sense if it comes to that being the problem

[lofty rapids]

well the fact thats where you stop the audio and the audio isn't stopping

i mean it makes sense to me

[hidden fossil]

I'm gonna test under the conditions that I need to check and will update with the results

[lofty rapids]

you could also be playing it again as well, does the audio start over and skip or just keep playing ?

[hidden fossil]

so a small update, I have values to check if doors or boss activations are triggered and which are not showing their status as needed to check the issue

however, I did notice in the door blueprint that I'm controlling advancement automation with a "disable input" node

and that could possibly be related if it's interfering with how the charge shot logic is being called (meaning that I may require an alternate means of doing so) so for now, I changed the behavior to where a focus charge doesn't carry over to the other side

[worthy echo]

Hi , I added spring arm in my character after that it's zooming in floor side .
Does anyone faced the same problem

[lofty rapids]

wdym "zooming floor side" ?

[worthy echo]

spring arm zooming to the floor likely stems from its collision with the floor or other geometry

[lofty rapids]

show youe components and the viewport

[lofty rapids]

you can shut off the collision test for the psring arm to test if thats the issue

[worthy echo]

Ok

I will check that

[worthy echo]

I will send it just after reaching home
I don't have that file at now

[rich sorrel]

How do I get the Steam authorization token for my Playfab Steam ticket?

[narrow sentinel]

anyone know in UE 4.26 how I can load a level from unloading ??

bassically I need to alter and actor details but whilst doing this I need to be able to move to another tile to link to another actor but when I go outside stream distance tile unloads and I need to force tile to remain loaded

[mental rampart]

Is it possible for a in-game screen to "copy" a widget in the viewport... 1:1?

Right now I'm achieving it by drawing two completely seperate widgets, which is unideal for more complex widgets

[maiden wadi]

What is your use case?

[mental rampart]

I have a common UI main menu, and I want to copy it onto a 3d screen in the background *alongside * the one on the viewport

[dry flower]

How can I solve this error? thank you

[lunar sleet]

Save the skeleton. You’re welcome 😀

[dry flower]

When I save it it gives this error

[spark steppe]

that's the skeletal mesh

[dusky cobalt]

you jsut need to create it again and display in game as widget component

[vernal edge]

can anyone help me . i made a pickup and drop system using attach actor to component and enabling/disabling physics but system only work ones after droping item cant pickup again but blueprint works just actor dent attach

[lofty rapids]

so you can pick it up, but after you drop it, you can't pick it up again ?

[lofty rapids]

the top execution whats to the left of it

[lofty rapids]

also whats the parent ? to the left of the bottom line

[vernal edge]

sorry didnt understand what u saying i am new in blueprints

[lofty rapids]

what are you using the boolean for ?

[vernal edge]

For checking does players are holding a item

[crimson briar]

The blueprint is incomplete so it is hard to tell. For example we can't see what is connected to the "detach" node. Is it static mesh or held actor?
Also is the static mesh a root component of the actor?

[storm solar]

trying to add multiplayer to my game. The auto posses tag isnt working for the second controller. Do I have to spawn another player controller? Should I do that in the actor BP or level or... ?

[faint pasture]

Don't be using auto possess for multiplayer

go through the normal GameMode flow where it makes a pawn and gives it to the player

It's probably possible to get auto possession working but it's really there just for quick and dirty testing.

[storm solar]

I tried to spawn playercontroller and than posses it gameplay controller and giving it to controller 1 but that didnt work either.
Even doing create local player does not work as trying to cast it to player controller fails.

[red heath]

What I don’t understand is this: even when nothing drops, it still picks up an item. How is that happening? I don’t get it, I’m going crazy.

[trim matrix]

are you able to help me pick up from yesterday i still am completely lost 😭

[red heath]

pls help

[astral summit]

Is there a way to search for a single variable in a struct array, such as searching by name?
I don’t want to use a loop node since it’s tedious and makes it easier to make mistakes when implementing it

[pallid locust]

I recently setup this softlock camera rotation feature where when I right click my cursor gets replaced with an image that is locked to its position as long as im holding rmb, but the problem is if you look in the top left corner of the video link, everytime I press or hold rmb that same image pops up and i mean thats where it is in the widget blueprint (0,0) but i dont want it to show I only want the one that replaces my cursor to show

Can someone tell me of a solution I can do to get rid of the image that pop ups for a frame in the top left corner?

the video doesnt capture it because it only pop ups for a frame so look closely at the beginning but it does popup everytime i press rmb
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qU0k8srLRyO3ltDgzxLMhEn7vI7OaGnv/view?usp=sharing

[zealous moth]

i dont think you can do that from an array since it's items at indices. so you either know the indice or your probe the items using a loop with break.
the only thing that would work is a datalist but those are static...

[astral summit]

I found this list, it seems they added it recently, but I haven't tried it yet.

[zealous moth]

still gotta do a loop

[lusty oak]

Hoping someone can help me out here. I'm trying to render a character doing it's idle animation in my menu. I have a blueprint which I've placed in the scene and I can confirm the character is there and idling, and I have a still image on the Render Texture itself, but it's not animating. Whether it should be when viewed there or not, I'm not sure. But when I go to my ui, it seems like anything that has been placed in the blueprint is being culled or something? Like all that blue is because i have those planes in there. If I remove the planes, you can see the silhouette of the character, but not the actual rendered character. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong here?

I was able to fix the view by setting the Capture Source to Final Color (HDR) instead of Scene Color. But it's only rendering a still image and not the animated idling for some reason...

[frosty heron]

do you have capture every frame ticked?

[lusty oak]

yes

[frosty heron]

make sure that's the state of all time. You can print that on tick and check if it's true.

there's no reason why it wouldn't render the scene otherwise afaik.

[lusty oak]

Ah it's because i'm pausing the game when the menu opens, and it's pausing the animation. duh.

[lusty oak]

So one more issue... it looks like there is a Show Only list on the SceneCaptureComponent2D. It should only render what is on that list. I've set the PrimitiveRenderMode to Use ShowOnly List, and then in the blueprint, I'm adding the skeletal mesh to the list, and it does seem to no longer render the planes I had placed behind the character, but it still renders the sky box and everything else. Is there any way to get it to ONLY render the skeletal mesh?

Ah, found the settings for that stuff. All good now.

[surreal peak]

What kind of multiplayer are we talking about? What you are trying to do is more or less for couch coop. If you want multiplayer with LAN/online support, you need to start the game with 2 players and then with play as client or play as server selected.

You shouldn't spawn your own PlayerControllers for that.

[jaunty star]

Guys, I found that when I run the UE5.6 arena shooting template, I get a lot of errors. It seems like the enemy blueprint has an issue. Can anyone solve this?

[lofty rapids]

I can help after awhile I will reply if you still around we can try to solve the problem

[frosty heron]

if you try to help someone for more than 10 minutes, usually the problem else where. Mainly with not knowing the basic.

hand holding them for another hour would tire you out and not neccessarily help them in the long run.

sounds cruel but just saying.

[lofty rapids]

👍

[frosty heron]

spoke from experience where I get to help someone with their save system.
The person insisted they know the basic, but they really don't. What he says would just be a 10 minute help end up with 2 hours of private session.

and in the end he still doesn't know how it work.

[lofty rapids]

Been there I know what your saying

I've helped for hours before

Lol

[frosty heron]

yeah, I wouldn't do it again.

waste of my time and it's also not really help the person to understand.

they will jsut be dropping nodes.

[lofty rapids]

Yes I try to help understand but mostly basics I can't be bothered with

I usually point to tuts

[frosty heron]

Yeah, once the actual issue is not understanding OOP, references and everything requires to do a blueprint coms, It would be better to tell them to chill out on their core system and just try to understand those first.

[lusty oak]

Anybody know what kind of crazy voodoo I have to do to get the SceneCaptureComponent2D to render Alpha as transparent instead of black? I've got it setup to use the Show Only list and have my character added to it, but it was displaying the skybox. After trying a few things, I got it to black. Depending on the capture source, it either renders nothing, or it renders black and inverts the alpha on my player making it not render as transparent. Looking online it seems like this is a pretty common issue, but none of the solutions I found worked.

Here's what I'm talking about, if it wasn't clear.

[trim matrix]

oh wow.

[trim matrix]

https://youtu.be/XWXXoAgugD8?si=_EEYMw5W2Ak0wTe0

this looks like what your trying to do?

[frosty heron]

what's your render target material's like?

you may have to invert the alpha, if you haven't already.

works fine on my end.

[slow pumice]

Hello, what is the clear difference between savegame and gameinstance ? I didn't find any clear answer ... like the gameinstance is used to global setting (input, graphic setting etc) and savegame for the global information in the game like health etc ?

[frosty heron]

You don't need Game instance to store input, graphic settings, etc. They can be stored in save game settings.

use Save game object to load / save game states.

GI, just persist when your application is run and destroyed when the application closed.

some usage of GI would be to store temporary data, e.g when you want to travel from Map1 to Map2. Since traveling destroy most of the data from the previous world, you can store data in the G.I where the data will pressist.

[slow pumice]

ok, thank you very much for the clear explanation 👌

[crimson briar]

Gameinstance is a subsystem, it is your game. It exists from the start of the game to the end (in normal cases).
Savegame is a blueprint that you can use to hold and manage data. By itself it doesn't do anything, it is just a template for saving. You use an instance of it to store data before saving. Also after loading the data is put into it so you can access it from other places.

[slow pumice]

Thank for additional information !

[crimson briar]

In places where you set variables, you use HeldItem, but in the fourth BP you use GrabItem to get the variable instead. I'm not sure I fully understand your goal here, but it looks weird at first glance

[void jewel]

is it possible to construct gameplay tags in blueprint? i know i can Add Gameplay Tag, but I have an array of enums and I want to create gameplay tags correspondingly. Basically in the same way one would append strings, (category).<enum goes here>.active

otherwise i think this is the first time i will use the variable map

which still sucks because i'd like to not have any mandatory secondary tasks as this enum list is expanded

[lofty rapids]

👋

[lofty rapids]

looks like your interacting with the hit regardless if your holding an item or not

[lofty rapids]

basically i think what would help is if you check if your holding before you check for implement interface

idk if it will fix it but that just looks like it's off a bit logically

i mean i would check before even the trace, because if your holding then you don't need to trace you want to drop

[lofty rapids]

what do your prints show ?

[lost hemlock]

question.... I need to make a short tutorial at the beginning of my game... I need to prompt the player to pick up wood. All wood items will have a widget on top of them saying "press e to interact" etc. these widgets are all invisible by default.... but there's a lot of these actors in the world, it's a big world. The question that I have is... how do i make it so that this widget only shows up two times? Player begins overlap a sphere that indicates close distance to that wood, and then he sees " ohhh i need to pick up two of those things "... and then the player will kind of get what he's supposed to do early on when he starts the game

should I use game instance for that?

or should i do a "sequence" -> "do once" in my item data, item data destroys the item and adds it to the inventory

item data is a component 🧩 shared among all my inventory items... and all inventory items share a parent... but that's not very useful info, Im just adding it just in case someone thinks it is important

[surreal peak]

Could construct a String and convert to Name and then to Tag.
But the Tag has to exist in general.

[surreal peak]

Do you want to show those two prompts at the same time, or do you want to only show them for the two times that the player still has to pick up wood?

In theory, you need something that handles your Tutorials. Some manager component on the GameState for example.

Then you could make another Component that you can add to Blueprints or Instances in your Level that can be used to register specific Actors with your Tutorial System. BeginPlay of that Component could register the Component or Owner to the main Manager Component, maybe via a (unique) GameplayTag. Other Systems can then query Tutorial-relevant Actors via that.

The Manager Component could have a system that goes through Tutorial Steps, where each Step could have "Actions" that get executed, or stay active for the duration of the Step. Those "Actions" could simply be UObjects, to keep them lightweight but still allow inheritance and what not.

You could then make an Action that gets all Actors that are registered with a specific GameplayTag and do something with them. E.g. "Tutorial.Entity.Item.Wood", and since you know those have to be BP_Item_Wood, you can cast the Actor to that and enable the Tooltip.

Something like that. It's good to ensure you create something powerful that can support all you need instead of making a bespoke solution for each thing when you encounter it.

[lusty oak]

Yep thats exactly what it ended up being. I had found that on another post online, but for some reason the first material I tried it on it didn't work. But I did it again on a new material and it worked perfectly.

[lost hemlock]

the 2nd

[surreal peak]

So after the tutorial you never want to show these again?

[lost hemlock]

yes

[surreal peak]

Then your Items should NOT have those Components by default. The Tutorial System I outlined should grab all Wood Items and add it runtime to them.

[lost hemlock]

okay I see. I really don't understand Uobjects tho, never used them, I used library functions though

[lost hemlock]

are there any tutorials about this?

I kinda wanna learn how to design those things in an efficient professional clean way, I can make a ghetto programmed tutorial but in the end I don't want a duck-taped result, i wanna do things efficiently and learn the best methods

I had a tutorial system before but it was too bad and I removed it to start again

[surreal peak]

UObjects are just the very base class of what you usually deal with in Blueprints. They are the base of (almost) everything you deal with, even Asset like Textures. They are very lightweight, you can create instances of them, use inheritance like you do with Actors, etc. Due to being so lightweight they don't support Components, can't be placed into the Level (they have no concept of 3D) and some other small things, like no Destroy function or creating them via CreateObject instead of SpawnActor.
The biggest difference is that they have no concept of the "World", as there is no guarantee that you create them within a World. Actors are spawned into the World, so they can use World related functions etc., UObjects are a lot "dumber".

Something that is very close to a UObject in that regard is the GameInstance, as that is something that lives for the time your game process is running, and isn't tied to any World/Level.

[surreal peak]

I have no idea. I barely follow tutorials, unless it's a new system I need to get into.

It's probably a good idea to take pen and paper and to think about all the things you might want to do with the Tutorial System.

• Different Tutorials
• Different Tutorial Steps within a Tutorial
• Those Steps might need a progress, and that progress might be very different between the steps (e.g., something counting up, something tracking multiple single "goals", etc.)
• Those Steps might need to do something when they get Active, when they are Done or while they are Active
• Some Actors might need to be relevant to Tutorials, so something to mark them and keep track of them without tying the logic too much to them directly
• Tutorial Progress might need to be saved
• Maybe multiple Tutorials need to run at the same time
• Tutorials and their Steps might need to populate some UI with instructions

Stuff like that. And if you think you have a good list of what you will need, check what you need to get these transfered into the game. Ask around what could be best used for XYZ. Take multiple opinions and favor the ones with proper explanations. And when you finally start, don't be afraid to rip stuff out again if it doesn't work or you forgot something in your list.

[dark drum]

Personally I would use some sort of quest system. Even if it's only used for tutorial aspects of the game, it can be a nice way to handle it without having to put edge cases everywhere.

[lofty rapids]

get it to actually work and worry about refactoring it later

[lofty rapids]

this happens with regular code as well even if you didn't copy from a tut

[lost hemlock]

Some Actors might need to be relevant to Tutorials, so something to mark them and keep track of them without tying the logic too much to them directly,
I could make an actor component to tie all those items that are relevant to the tutorial
Different Tutorials
Different Tutorial Steps within a Tutorial
Those Steps might need a progress, and that progress might be very different between the steps (e.g., something counting up, something tracking multiple single "goals", etc.)
Those Steps might need to do something when they get Active, when they are Done or while they are Active
this I think might also tie into a little bit to my level system. Your xp increases and so does your levels overtime but nothing happens you don't win anything at the moment for increasing your level etc. So I will probably need to fix that.

[dark drum]

UObjects are awesome, it's definitely worth learning about creating custom uobject base classes for things that don't need to live in the word.

When making various systems, you'll often have an actor component that uses/creates some sort of custom uboject base class at runtime. The custom uobjects will often contain specific logic that the actor component can then call.

[lost hemlock]

Nice, I like quests. Not familiar with any specific quest systems tho, is there any tutorial on this that you have on your ytb channel?

[dark drum]

I've not done a quest system tutorial myself unfortunately. The quest systems I've created myself however, use custom uobjects.

As a short overview I'd have a custom uobject class that contains things like title, description, quest to add when completed (if any). I'd then have another custom uobject that's used solely for tracking changes in the world. This would also be specified in the main quest object. When it's complete, it'll tell the main quest object, 'Hey, all actions have been done, do your thing.' At this point it can check if a new quest needs to be added and do so automatically.

Having an actor component to then manage these can be nice and gives an access point for the UI to gain access to the data such as active quests and completed quests to display in the UI.

[lofty rapids]

my questlines are an array of structs

i have not used raw uobjects much

probably should look into it

[dark drum]

A short series I have done is the 'Stop Repeating Yourself' series. I do go over using actor components and custom uobjects so it might be a useful one to go over to give you some ideas. (it might give more context to what I said above)

[dark drum]

I probably use uobjects too much. 😅 Having said that though, I've not come across any issues.

I was working on an upgrade system the other day, which uses a data asset where you specify some properties, one of which is a custom uobject which handles applying the actual upgrade based on the level that's passed in.

The uobject goes and modifies the various properties in other places. This makes creating a new upgrade easy without having to have a ton of branches.

I can also just loop through all upgrades at the start of the game to reapply them all from a save. (not actually done this bit yet)

[lofty rapids]

i see so you have your original stats, but then you stack upgrades onto that ?

i have buffs, but i have not worked out many stats other then hp,xp,stamina,power,level

[last peak]

Cant use them too much, they are so much better than structs or annoying data tables

[dark drum]

Sort of yea. The game i'm working on isn't that type of game so I didn't need something overly complex.

For something with stats, I'd have the stats system have getter functions for things like GetMaxHP which would take the base HP modify it based on a list of uobject modifiers that have been added to the stats system.

[dark drum]

There is overhead for creating uobjects so you do need to be careful if you plan to scale up massively. Structures can be more efficient from a resource perspective but they're limited in BP only. :/

Looking through some of the source code, there's a lot of places where structures are used like objects. From my understanding in C++ you can reference a struct so it's not just a copy, unlike in BP. :/

[trim matrix]

i think i mayve gotten it somehow w my older code. it decided to start working

[last peak]

minimal overhead for uobjects
they are a bit more expensive but its negligible

Unless your using millions of them

[maiden wadi]

It's a bit more strictly simple than that in reality though. UObjects are 100% superior to structs in BP only.

Structs are just kind of bad in BP due to their breaking habits. And they don't actually offer anything. Actually they're slower to handle usually because you end up needing special handling classes like libraries for them because you can't put functions on them directly. I can't ask my struct in BP to return a sorted array of something it holds for example. You can do that with an object.

The second is passing them around. Most functions in BP are copy. The more complex your structs get, the more you spend on allocations. UObject also avoid this because you're passing a pointer.

You get NO cache friendly bonus from structs in BP. This is the one major place that they actually shine in C++ outside of creation costs because iterating an array of UObjects has you jumping around to access random memory. Accessing an array of structs is cache friendly, it's all there.

The creation costs are usually negligible in BP. You won't be scaling up to a point that it'll matter. Because BP only code won't support a heavy count anyhow just due to the way it runs unless you avoid any sort of iterations and strictly stay event driven which isn't always possible.

[dark drum]

It would be nice if BP structs got some TLC.

[lofty rapids]

as far as data goes i really like structs

because with a type system you usally are restricted to what you can hold

and array of structs for me is just naturally awesome

i see the point of uobjects can run code thats nice feature

[dark drum]

You can inherit from a uobject which I would say is where it's strength comes from. Create a lightweight base class with some core functions and then create child classes and implement them. Something I often use.

[marble tusk]

It would be nice if blueprint structs could get to the point where it's not a buggy mess which breaks all the time

[lofty rapids]

i don't have a problem with structs

if you change a name when it's connected it will break

and you have to refresh

but if you leave it alone it's fine

in c++ if you change the name it will fix it automagically ?

i have not had it break other then the times i changed it

you can add to it np

it just if your using a value you shouldn't change its name or remove it the wire will still be connected

[dark drum]

It doesn't auto fix but doesn't just disconnect everything and error out the struct so its easier to go through and reconnect where needed. (From my experience)

[lofty rapids]

i've heard they can "break" but i have not had an issue really 🤔

it's definately a pain when you have to change something

[maiden wadi]

The issue with BP structs is that they're... stuck.

[supple charm]

how can i make the fruits falling from the sky be vibrant and not show black shadows when looking from the bottom? just disabling cast shadows wont work

[maiden wadi]

Like, you "could" make a BP struct that only references C++ types. Or maybe allow only using other POD types. In fact uh... U# and Angelscript both allow creating structs. There's no reason you couldn't do the same thing in the editor with some form of scripting layer.

Buuuut then you have to force them not to reference other classes somehow. That's one of the big gotchas with BP structs is their super ease to cause circular dependencies and get weird breaks where shit just.. doesn't work. And I think the scripting structs reload similar to C++ ones so they don't break as much.

[crimson briar]

UObjects have one drawback though - not being able to use BP FUnction Libraries, even if the functions are not world-sensitive. There are some ways to get aorund it but the point of Function Libraries is to have a general purpose function available easly. And it doesn't work with objects

[dark drum]

If you're creating the base class in BP only that is true. You can add world context in C++ though which allows them to use FuncLibs.

It would be nice if they added world context free func libs that could be used in uobjects without world context.

[maiden wadi]

Or even just a checkbox on the function to not require it individually.

[dark drum]

Adding some emissive to the material would work. This might not be the best solution though.

[dark drum]

True, or have it detect if the 'World Context' var is being used.

[dusky cobalt]

You can always just copy paste the function to UObject and not worry about library but yeah

[crimson briar]

Depends how much pain you can handle. Copy-pasting a function does severe damage to your programmer brain.

[supple charm]

it works alright, it doesnt hide shadows completely but does an okay job. thanks!

[vernal edge]

@lofty rapids @crimson briar thanks for helping ❤️ , i fixed it i plugged wrong pin in target of detach component

[odd kiln]

Can I point an IK bone to a target ? Like my arm for example ?

[faint pasture]

heresy

structs are life

if I can do it with a struct I do it with a struct

[last peak]

Only negatives besides the minimal performance boost

[faint pasture]

nope

the ergonomics are awesome

I'm talking C++ of course, not BP structs

And depending on what you're doing, the performance boost isn't minimal. I got well over a 10x perf boost moving to a tight array of structs instead of UObjects all over the place in my 1D simulator plugin. If you're gonna have hundreds of instances of a thing, just DOD it and zoom.

[last peak]

10 x ?
Come on now a uobject has maybe 100 bytes more, sure the garbage collector runs over it too but 10 x seems a bit much
But lets say it is 10 x, you would have to use 100k of them for like 10 mb overhead
Doesnt seem too drastic to me 🤷

But in c++ i would probably use structs too, they are simply horrible to work with in bps

atleast for me they break all the time .... maybe im doing something wrong

Guess execution time is way slower for u objects hmnn

[red briar]

would this be how i can disable landscape collision in runtime?

[spark field]

why in ue5 the click template you have to hold the left mouse button isntead of just clicking once

[faint pasture]

Tight loop and cache misses

It's not the memory per se, it's the fact that they're shotgunned all over the place

[knotty current]

i have a widget component on all bp_firstpersoncharacter that replicates and is designed to appear for all players. for some reason, the host cannot see these widget components, only clients are able to see it. the clients can see the hosts widget, the clients can see other clients, but the host cannot see any. any idea?

[dusky moth]

can someone make an example for a piston that moves up and return down in correspondance to an analog value from 0 to 1, like a trigger, so a smaller value wont result in a smaller speed but will result in less distance from the center height. it needs to have an adjustable speed, acceleration, return speed, distance that itll move from the center height, and be able to stop on a dime, and it needs to use the z direction relative to the piston so that it wont matter if the piston is rotating in world space.

i cant find any good tutorials for stuff like this, the best ive been able to do is using add force nodes and physics constraints, the problems im having is its hard to make it use the smaller values to move the piston smaller distances, rather than move it at a slower speed. and its hard to make it so the piston stops quickly upon letting go or it reaching the max distance, without effecting the speed that the piston moves

[knotty current]

id help but i myself dont know much. do you know if you could help me out 😅

sometimes i ask chat gpt for aid, but in this case its not giving me good respose

[dusky moth]

i typically use gemini. though i think the problem is that the unreal guides on the website are very lacking, like the one for the physics constraint is like two pages, i think most knowledge is only learnable by just doing stuff within unreal itself, or reading the actual c++ scripts that create the nodes

[knotty current]

do you know how to fix my issue

[knotty current]

this one

[hearty musk]

Hello, looking for some help with collisions in Unreal Engine 5.

So I'm working on a physics based landing gear system. When I press G, it toggles its states between physics driven and animation driven (deployed & retracted / blending physics weights 0 - 1 and 1 - 0). The issue I'm having is that the collision from the physics asset still remains in place.

Is there a way to toggle collision off and on for a skeletal mesh physics capsule at run time or is the only solution to use physics control (which I have tried but it introduces excessive torque values that affect my flight model)? Here are some images:

Edit: nvm, i just created a custom function in c++ (callable in blueprints) that allows me to toggle collision at runtime per bone. Seems its not built into Unreal Engine 5 for some reason...

[surreal wagon]

Can someone illuminate me on why getting the static mesh component like this does not work

[real epoch]

Hello, so for whatever reason I have this tank I made using the chaos vehicle plugin and for whatever reason, everything in it works... except the set throttle input node. It fires but doesn't trigger a breakpoint, it doesn't show any error, and the vehicle simply doesn't move at all. I have no idea what to do, been looking for help for days now, and I'm wondering if I shouldn't just restart from zero and hope it works this time, which honestly doesn't sound like an ideal solution

[lofty rapids]

show the node your saying doesn't work

[hearty musk]

What do you mean by it fires but..? Also you should post this in #chaos-physics as well.

[lofty rapids]

then double click it and show that code if you can

[real epoch]

Double-clicking it just shows a pop-up "reading c++ symbols"

[real epoch]

If after the node I put a "get throttle input" node and print it, the throttle input value actually changes. It just has absolutely no effect. And yes, I'll post in the chaos channel as well, thanks

[hearty musk]

So the action value, which in this case is the throttle value changes (since you printed it), but the tank doesn't move?

[real epoch]

Yes

And to be clear, it used to. And at some point, for a reason I cannot figure out for the life of me, it stopped

[hearty musk]

Do other movement controls work?

[real epoch]

Also everything else works, brake works, steering works, suspensions work...

And the basic vehicles also work

Though they're made in C++ since I created the project in C++

[hearty musk]

Is this a physics based tank? (Physics Asset blueprint, etc.)

[real epoch]

Yes

Physics look like this rn

If you want to see for yourself I put the project on github and can give the link

[stone field]

Aside : nodes that are c++ can be viewed if you have a c++ game project : all that needs is one dummy class. Then you can open the solution and the link from editor to c++ code will work in an IDE like vstudio or rider etc.

Even if you are not a coder, it may be beneficial to see the code of some nodes to gain insight into issues

[real epoch]

Oh that's interesting, I had no idea

So if I open Rider I could find the node's code?

[stone field]

Yes, and should also work direct from editor to the location

[hearty musk]

How does your tank actually "move"? Do the tracks propel it forward or is it something else. For example Left track moving forward and right track moving backwards/at a slower rate rotates the tank. Also could you elaborate on "when" throttle stopped having an effect.

[real epoch]

It's just a bunch of wheels

It stopped after I opened another larger map to test the suspensions on harsher terrain

And now it doesn't work on any map

[real epoch]

How exactly could I do that? I'm not sure about the exact steps to do this

[stone field]

If you use version control, you can diff changes

[real epoch]

I don't :/

Didn't think I'd find a game breaking bug after just a day of work on a brand new project

[stone field]

the pain of mystery changes...
assuming you have tried restarting unreal to make sure it's not an editor glitch, without version control you may waste untold amounts of time pondering what got broken : (

"a story as old as code itself"

[real epoch]

I feel figuring out what went wrong would be better since it could happen again at any moment if I were to make a new project from scratch

[hearty musk]

Is there any difference between maps? level blueprint, etc. If the inputs are being registered then it has to be from the outside environment.

[real epoch]

Yeah I tried it on the offroad vehicle map so it was a different gamemode, I overrode it and I think that's when it stopped working

What's weird is that the first map I tested it on, well it doesn't work there either now

[dusky moth]

there should be a leetcode but for unreal blueprints

[hearty musk]

Something is seriously borked in your project 🤣

Do you have another way of actually moving the vehicle forward aside from enhanced input? Like injecting a throttle value with event tick or something. Would help to isolate whether it actually an input error or something else.

Get the vehicle to automatically apply a throttle value of 1.0 without providing any player input.

[real epoch]

Any other way of changing the throttle value doesn't do anything either

[hearty musk]

Are you using the same input for reversing the tank? like multiplying the throttle value by -1 or is that a completely different value?

What im getting so far:

• Every other tank control works except moving forward

How about your input settings?

[real epoch]

Reversing is just setting the throttle to -1 afaik

Doesn't work either

Input settings are default, haven't touched them

[hearty musk]

Can I see more of your blueprint? Triggered > Set Throttle Input > Node I cant fully see.

[real epoch]

It's get throttle input to print it

Like tbh the blueprint is as basic as can be, I add mapping contexts and then I use the vehicle movement component's functions to use the vehicle

[lofty rapids]

and throttle input is 0 to 1 ?

[real epoch]

Yes

[hearty musk]

What did you program into c++ in regards to the input values?

You could probably also post this in #enhanced-input-system as well.

Im convinced that is the issue has nothing to do with input values but i mean...

[real epoch]

I have zero c++, I made the project with c++ base files since it's meant to have multiplayer so I figured it'd be easier this way than to start with a blueprint project and later import the necessary c++ source files, which has caused me issues in the past

[hearty musk]

Try recreating your blueprint (you'll have to change your assigned game mode pawn). Redo the control system. Dont do a full project restart. Just create a new blueprint and change your references to that new blueprint

[crimson briar]

I never used it like this but shouldn't you attach the Static Mesh Component and not the Static Mesh that is assigned to the Component? Unless the StaticMesh there is a custom variable, not the engine one - then check if your reference is correct.

[lofty rapids]

Does it have gears ?

[real epoch]

Yes

[real epoch]

Already did, it doesn't work even if I recreate a new pawn

[lofty rapids]

I don't see where you put it in gear

[real epoch]

What do you mean?

It's in the vehicle movement component

[lofty rapids]

Hmm ya automatic but do you need to put it in drive ?

[real epoch]

What do you mean?

Like, engage the transmission?