blueprint

[inland walrus]

Yeah I clear them after the player has combined

[lofty rapids]

print strings will show the issue

[inland walrus]

It looks like the gets are correct based on the prints strings

I've unplugged the clearing

[lofty rapids]

print the recipe

make sure the strings match

use contrast

print recipe before the sequence

then print all three

this will show the issue

[inland walrus]

Alright, it looks like it didn't go down the false branches this time

[lofty rapids]

i don't see the recipe string ?

is it populated correctly ?

make sure the map key matches exactly

when you set it and get it

but something seems to be wrong with your setting

i would first check by setting the recipe manually to something like "testing"

in the functioin

see if it's the random generation or the actual function

[maiden wadi]

It's your RHI thread. AKA Renderthread.

[narrow sentinel]

what do you think is causing it to be like it is cause it's not all the time it's as you see on the mid spike

[inland walrus]

The random potions are working

[lofty rapids]

weird it didn't print in the other function ?

[narrow sentinel]

Cause i dont even have a lot that renders at the point so

[inland walrus]

This one?

[lofty rapids]

it didn't print in the video

it's empty ?

[inland walrus]

Oh wait bare with

[lofty rapids]

set the time for longer delay

give you a second to screen shot it make things easy

[lofty rapids]

drag from the same bottom one

and print that

[inland walrus]

I think its because the create recipe function was on 5 button instead of begin play

[lofty rapids]

ya and if you didn't press 5 then it wouldn't work

[inland walrus]

Exactly, thats my bad

Should I print anything after this bit?

[lofty rapids]

i would print all the gets out of the trues now

and now you can see if there was supposed to be a match

because if you think about it, it's random, so you may not get any matches

but if you manually look and see, then you can tell if it's working

so what you can do is try it with the matches, try it without

[inland walrus]

nothing prints on trues, I'd imagine thats because there is no matches

[lofty rapids]

right

[maiden wadi]

Uncertain. You could try enabling StatNamedEvents and maybe even RenderCommands to see if it'll give any more info on those parts.

[inland walrus]

I got a match of 1 this time

[lofty rapids]

i didn't mean on trues, my fault, i meant do it before the branch

[lofty rapids]

yes it's working

[inland walrus]

Cool! do you still want me to do this?

[narrow sentinel]

so i did have stats named events on

[lofty rapids]

no print string is np if it works you don't need it

but print the recipe

and the total matches

and select the stuff in the recipe in your slots

see if the number aligns correctly with what you have

[inland walrus]

Nice I have just tried it and it works.

Now instead of only checking against the health potion ingredients, I need to check against all recipes

[maiden wadi]

I dunno then. You'd have to poke around the rendering channels maybe and see if you can get lucky with anyone who knows what that might be. All I can find is a random mention about particles, but it's obscure and there's no replies to it. 🤷‍♂️

[inland walrus]

a for each loop?

[lofty rapids]

why would you need to do that ?

[narrow sentinel]

so i do have particles after the move to is completed but I wouldn't see why that would cause the frame spike

[inland walrus]

Currently we're only checking against the health potion is successful

[narrow sentinel]

also there isn't a rendering channel

[lofty rapids]

probably foreach with break

[lofty rapids]

then if you hit your totalMatch on the recipe just break out and thats a match

instead of wasting cycles

best case it's like O(1), worst case O(N) i think, i'm just thinking logically

you could get first and break

or have to loop through all and break at end

[inland walrus]

So break it after the branches?

All 3?

[lofty rapids]

nope

you know where the last sequence part is comming out ?

do you want all matches, or just one ?

[inland walrus]

yeah, so do some sort of check is 2 or 3?

[lofty rapids]

yes

[inland walrus]

What do you mean?

[lofty rapids]

and if it is, then you know the recipe is what you want

[lofty rapids]

like get the first matching recipe ?

or they are all unique ?

[inland walrus]

They're all unique recipes but there would be a problem if for example:
Potion: Moss, Sap
Potion 2: Moss, Sap, Jam

[lofty rapids]

this is why like i mentioned already you should store that variable in the struct

[narrow sentinel]

@maiden wadi I've made a interesting find which is the particles I have which being just before the frame spike if I don't call them to start there is no frame spike

which means question is why would doing this cause the frame spike to occur

[lofty rapids]

well for one thing, it's not connected to any execution

so it won't be doing anything anytime soon

[lofty rapids]

how often does this run ?

[narrow sentinel]

just once but it seems its them doing something

[maiden wadi]

That's a pretty broad question. Spawning a particle does a lot of stuff technically. So it's hard to say.

[narrow sentinel]

there just basic sprite and I'm only doing a spawn rate of 95

maybe if I try lerping up the spawn rate would it do anything different but my system should easily handle 95 spawn rate particles

[inland walrus]

I'm not sure how to do that

[maiden wadi]

TBF, keep in mind that the engine is in kind of a rework of the rendering systems right now. So things that should work may be buggy in weird ways. Specially if you can reproduce it in a basic project it might be worth giving to Epic for them to look at.

[lofty rapids]

first thing you do is go in your struct and create a variable

call it something like total

or count

[lofty rapids]

now in your function that you create a random one, what does that look like ?

[lofty rapids]

so this won't work as is btw

your pulling random twice

it's a pure node, so it will re run both times

so your not removing the correct recipe

you can fix this by caching the variable

after the random, promote that to a variable

and then use that to add, and remove

[lofty rapids]

but to solve the problem of the total, you need to split into array the random that you cache, and then get that arrays length

store that in the total value

split it by +

[inland walrus]

Like this? I'm not sure what you mean by +

[lofty rapids]

no not like that ...

[lofty rapids]

basically you use + between each one correct ?

you can use this to count how many there are

you parse it into an array that is split by +

then the length is how many in the array

[inland walrus]

Got you

[lofty rapids]

ok so now in the other function where your matching the recipe to slots, show that again ?

it should show the new struct value

and you want to check if totalMatches is equal to the total in the struct value

[lofty rapids]

yes it shows the total now you see the new value ?

print string that value after the recipe

make sure it matches

3 or 2

with stuff like this you need to test it, might need to add one, subtract one

printing the total off the struct value from the map, should show you how many ingredients are in the recipe

[inland walrus]

This is only printing 1 when I match the ingredients

[lofty rapids]

print the recipe, and print the number

see what matches up

[lofty rapids]

^

[lofty rapids]

interesting

[lofty rapids]

can you restart the project ?

i don't see anything right off the bat, but i'm probably overlooking something

[inland walrus]

Sure

[lofty rapids]

and these two are when you press the key ?

thats wild it should be generated

[lofty rapids]

make sure in this parse into array, there are no spaces just the +

[inland walrus]

That's my b then, there is spaces

I'll try it without

Works😅

[lofty rapids]

nice

so now you say, if totalMatches == thisNewTotalNumber

then you have a match

and bingo bango you got yourself a recipe finder

and this will work with any amount of ingredients as well

[inland walrus]

Nice! Now I just need to run it through the loop

[lofty rapids]

but this is going to be shitty with 650 things

loops are horrible in bp

just as a heads up, you may want to offload some of these loops to c++ if possible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V707r4bkJOY

[inland walrus]

Thanks man, I truly appreciate all you've done

Can you just confirm this for each loop is correct?

[lofty rapids]

np, i like to help when i can

i mean it makes sense

try it out

[inland walrus]

Cool, and is there a way to print which potion it has created?

Currently only printing hello

[lofty rapids]

yes drag from the recipe, and you also want a break to make it more efficient

[lofty rapids]

here the recipe in the struct value is the one that is selected and is a match

so then you break

and on completed get that value

and if at the end you didn't find anything then just default with something else

like set a variable thisSTring, set it to a default, on true, set thisSTring, break

return thisSTring

[inland walrus]

Sorry, I'm a little lost, currently from what I can gather, this is what I have but this will only print the recipe rather than the name of the potion the recipe belongs to

[lofty rapids]

array element is the key for the map

the recipe is the recipe

but see where you pull from array element and use that in the find

thats the key to the map that holds that recipe

so basically array element is what your looking for, this is the potion name

[lofty rapids]

test this by generating a bunch of random names in the array before you populate, see how efficient it runs

try 50

200

500

1000

[rain warren]

Hey all, not sure where to put this, but I figure Blueprint is a good place to start.

I'm trying to integrate rotation into a node-based path following behavior (in this case, using StateTree, but it's probably applicable to Behavior Trees as well)

I want the an actor to do this via the behavior system:

1. ANIMATE a rotation (like a tank turret) to face next path node
2. Wait 3 seconds
3. Move to next path node
4. Wait 3 seconds

Repeat

The problem is, while it is easy enough to integrate a latent 'AI Move To" node into the behavior setup, there is no latent equivalent of "Face Actor".

There is only a "Set Rotation" which is instantaneous.

You also can't create a true "tick" function nor a timeline in behavior / state tree graphs, so I can't evne animate it that way.

If anybody has any idea how I could pull this off a smooth animated rotation in a behavior sequence, I'd greatly appreciate it.

[spark sky]

I made a BTT called rotate to actor. Rotates the actor towards a blackboard value. You could use an array and set the next value before getting to the node.

[inland walrus]

It works but something is slightly off, in this video I attempt to make a health potion (using health potion ingredients) but when crafted, it prints Mana Potion

[lofty rapids]

try a foreach with break

and break when you get the match

it may be possible you have two ingredients that make something else

and after it finds the first, it also finds the second later on in the loop

so a break would solve this problem

because it would stop looping once it finds the result

[inland walrus]

I've added a break but now I get Poison when trying to craft a health potion

[inland walrus]

Looking at the recipe on the print string, they both contain Ashen Beetle and Moon Cap for the health and poison recipes (hp 2 match, poison 3 match)

[lofty rapids]

i noticed this as well

[lofty rapids]

print the total

[inland walrus]

of each recipe?

[lofty rapids]

what do you use for empty ?

as far as in the map

when it get zero on an empty slot what does it get ?

it should be a default like empty or something, something that will never show up in the list

something that when matched against will give a false

[inland walrus]

Worth noting I get these errors, I believe these are to do with empty

[lofty rapids]

you can check if the index is valid, or set empty to actually be some default like literally "empty"

[inland walrus]

Also it's printing correctly

[lofty rapids]

yes this isn't the problem, the problem is get zero of empty

everything in the recipe generation is fine for sure

the problem is you are getting zero of a non existing slot value

if that makes sense

there is no get 0

zero index doesn't exist

so you can do the two things i mentioned

[inland walrus]

I understand, so do I put a default value there on zero and change the gets to 1?

[lofty rapids]

no don't change the gets

[inland walrus]

If I add a value to the slots so 0 is always valid, I'd need to change the gets to 1 as it's adding no?

[lofty rapids]

i would just do an AND is valid index on each one

makes things simple

so drag out from the keys on each one and do is valid index

check that zero is valid

on each one

before you get them

[lofty rapids]

no if there is none adding one will make the first one zero

arrays are zero index

so 0,1,2,3,4,etc...

[inland walrus]

It'd be 3 different branches right? not this

[lofty rapids]

you need to check if it's valid before you get, so check before the other branches for each one

if is valid

then true, check if it matches

if false just do nothing don't add

so if it's invalid it won't add anything

[narrow sentinel]

okay so in the UE5 Channel found out what was causing my issue, so each time I do a standalone game i'm not giving it to time to do the PSO stuff so when that Niagara particle starts the stutter is the shaders being done for it now question is whats best way to deal with this PSO issue cause I'd need to at game being launched hold off on game progressing until well stuff is done

[rain warren]

Thanks! Does your BTT that rotates actually animate the rotation? So far I can only get snap rotations.

[narrow sentinel]

but not sure if I can do that without well a level being loaded

[lofty rapids]

yes three at the top right before your other branches, think about when the pure nodes get, they get when they are needed, so if you check if it's valid, and do nothing if it's invalid, then it won't get zero because you don't pull it for the next branch

[inland walrus]

@lofty rapids Like this?

[lofty rapids]

no not at all

[lofty rapids]

put them in the matching green places

so you check if it's valid, before you pull from those values

or else you'll keep getting the error

the way you have it set up breaks the whole thing if there is an empty value

[spark sky]

If you mean it's an actual animation or are you using a mesh on top of the tank? You can do anything you want inside of a BTT. You could slowly rotate it based on Delta... Get its current rotation add a value and then set the rotation.

It's no different from rotating anything.

[inland walrus]

Got it

[rain warren]

Ah, it's possible that BTT's are different than StateTrees then. There is no ability to operate on tick or an animation timeline within StateTree functions.

I do realize this is very easy to do in an actor BP for example since I'd just use the tik and an Rinterp / Rotate combo, but this is not possible in a StateTree.

Are you doing your BTT rotation on a tick function?

[lofty rapids]

yes exactly this should fix it

[inland walrus]

It works but still getting the errors

[lofty rapids]

show where your pulling from ?

i see you have wires going up

where do they attach to ?

whats on the left side of the image ?

[lofty rapids]

click where it says branch, where does it take you to ?

[inland walrus]

What do you mean

[lofty rapids]

thats strange it shouldn't be accesing zero if it's not valid

[lofty rapids]

in the error, literally "click where it says branch"

it should take you to the node

that is running

that is the issue

[spark sky]

No tick. Just grabbing current rotation and adding to it untils at the desired rotation. If state trees work differently then couldn't you just call a function in the tank called rotate turret? And put a speed and a desired end rotation? Then the tank handles it itself

[inland walrus]

They both lead to this branch

[lofty rapids]

oh i see

your lines are not correctly ordered

your top lines don't align properly with your bottom lines

does that make sense ?

your not checking the correct keys zero

[inland walrus]

Ohh on the gets?

[lofty rapids]

no on the isvalid

your not matching matching the gets

[inland walrus]

Ah yeah I get you

so match them to the gets

[lofty rapids]

yes

the same ones

so that you check if it's valid, then if it is, then you can get it

if your not matched up it won't work correctly

[inland walrus]

Boom errors are gone

absolute legendary guy

[lofty rapids]

i been programming a long time, unreal for awhile now, but i took a few breaks

[inland walrus]

You're still sharp haha

[lofty rapids]

i've made a few games now like 4 or 5 little projects, i understand blueprints pretty well

i really like the visual programming aspect of it

it's new to me i'm use to writing code

but i always like visual, even visual basic i like that language

because it's visual you just drag and drop

blueprints is really fun to use imo

just a lot of click and dragging

lol

[inland walrus]

Yeah haha, I like the visual code unreal engine gives. I can read code but I'm not great at writing it. Have you got any projects/games I could check out?

[lofty rapids]

https://streamable.com/assbjz

this is what i'm recently working on

https://jeetahstudios.itch.io/sideways

theres also this ^

but thats about as much as i can post without getting blasted for self promotion

the golf game is the newest project, i got a bunch of videos of different projects

i'm having fun with it

[inland walrus]

Nice projects! You should stick to it, you're very knowledgable, you could easily create some good stuff

[lofty rapids]

the plan is to eventually make a good game sell it, but i'm just still messing around learning not sure of what kind of game to make that will be good and sell

i think eventually i will get something like i have seen other people who make games they had to make a few games to get something good out of everything they learned

because of my programming history blueprints just makes a lot of sense to me

i use minimal c++ when i need too

[inland walrus]

I think go in with the mindset of creating a game that you've always wanted to create rather than going in with the idea of satisfying customers. Easy way to burn out by going in with satisfying expectations of others

I've been through so many projects and burnt out because I couldn't really see an end game and wasn't enjoying what I was making to the fullest

With the project I'm on now, I'm kinda doing it for me but will also release it

[lofty rapids]

is the thing working ?

thats a cool feature

geez that took awhile to make

[spark steppe]

there's a healthy mix i guess... make a game that you enjoy to play

[inland walrus]

Yeah it's working great now! 😄

[lofty rapids]

i'm basically doing what i would want to play, and learning a lot on the way

[inland walrus]

I'm trying to make an endless sandbox RPG, where if you die and have a child, you play as your child, and you basically see how long your legacy can go, whilst also managing a guild of heroes

[rain warren]

Ah, so you just have a for loop that checks until the rotation is done and keeps going from there? That could work. My next choice was going to be to try implementing it on the actor itself and somehow call it from the ST graph, so maybe I'll go with that if I can't make a for-loop work.

[lofty rapids]

currently i'm working with textures and how to do cool things with them

custom nodes, material functions

really cool stuff

[inland walrus]

That's awesome man, I'd love to stay updated with what you create

[lofty rapids]

#1397230939846738081 message

this is all i have except the itch

but i will post my projects and stuff when i get a website

i have one, i just have not uploaded stuff to it yet

got one for free i use for a server in a multiplayer game

[lofty rapids]

https://streamable.com/w4t33n

this is pretty cool game

it's a board game like system multiplayer, and the popup messages are pretty cool

all blueprint

[inland walrus]

Nice man, well I've followed the discord channel so I will stay up to date

[inland walrus]

That is cool

[lofty rapids]

unreal makes it easy to make a simple game look fairly decent

and i have a tendancy to ruin it with horrible level design lol but i'm getting better at it

[inland walrus]

Loool

[lofty rapids]

https://streamable.com/c/vcsxs2

[glossy crag]

having issues where the widget for life count updates properly however it doesnt remove the previous text, so it overlaps 5 with 4

[lofty rapids]

so this overwriting ?

what happens when you get 6,7

do they keep overlapping ?

[glossy crag]

not sure, for some reason picking up a life doesnt change anything

[lofty rapids]

this is begin play so it only runs once ? or your destroying and re spawning ?

[glossy crag]

its only when dying

the begin play is for my respawn

[lofty rapids]

yes because you are doing it on begin play

[glossy crag]

i wasnt sure where else to put it

the guide i followed for respawning used the begin play

[lofty rapids]

don't plug all three into the same thing, make another sequence node and run it after, because now that thing runs three times

[glossy crag]

I figured I'd only need to create the widget once and if I had the textblock as variable itd be editable during runtime

[lofty rapids]

yes it is, but if you only update it on begin play it won't change untill you respawn

and even then it will reset the variable its local to the player which it looks like it is

but when you die

what code runs ?

because i imagine it runs the event again

[narrow sentinel]

so i'm trying to make my game so when it's launched it runs kind of a open loading screen which purly is a loading screen no levels loaded at all and then when I want to load the menu level. I've tried doing this with standalone game but it's loading the level I'm in rather then doing the flow I would expect a new launch of the game to do

[lofty rapids]

oh ok i see you pass it in

[lofty rapids]

see this event here ? you want to run this when your life count updates

[glossy crag]

added that to my life pickup and that works

it doesnt overlap

it only overlaps on death

let me mess with TP char

okay so I added it to the event destroyed when life count changes

that did work temporarily

however when I respawned it did the overlap

[maiden wadi]

Generally speaking you can't really not be in a level. The way that most games do this is that they'll have a primary main menu level and this is mostly empty. Your flow happens in a few different ways based on platforms. But it's largely pushing the right widgets to screen in the correct order. Like a Press Start on consoles, or doing the initial shader compile widget, or an initial accessibility settings picker, all before the main menu widget is pushed. Anything that is like 3D graphics behind these widgets are just streamed levels with their own camera sequencers mostly.

[glossy crag]

so I saw the 5 go to 4 for aboute 1 second and then when I respawned the 5 came back and overlapped the 4

same when I went down to 3

[lofty rapids]

probably because your using the local variable and not the game mode one

[narrow sentinel]

So from what I've been told i cant be in a level as that'll stop PSO preaching in a way so somehow I have to hold off entering any levels including main menu levels until so precaching is done unless I'm misunderstanding what I watched from epic

[lofty rapids]

wdym came back and overlapped ? @glossy crag

when the number changes it doesn't fully change it just overlaps ?

maybe you are creating too many widgets

yes when you die, you are creating another widget

create the widget in the HUD

and use that reference

[glossy crag]

the end part does it too but the 7 and 7 just overlap perfectly

[lofty rapids]

this here is your problem

your creating a new widget every time you spawn

thats why it's overlapping

different widgets

[glossy crag]

so add a do once?

[lofty rapids]

no, it will still happen every spawn

create the widget in the HUD, or game mode

[glossy crag]

kk

[lofty rapids]

or even player controller

but i use HUD for widgets

then get the that reference instead of the local one

[glossy crag]

if i do it in the gamemode I have a feeling itll appear in my main menu

which I have as a level to put 3d stuff in

[lofty rapids]

ya probably

use the HUD

it's the best place for it imo

[glossy crag]

is that like a seperate thing? or just a widget BP

[narrow sentinel]

so strange thing is even if I have a empty map be the default load map, the loading screen widget thing doesn't seem to show or at least it doesn't appear to show

[glossy crag]

if I make it a widget BP wont it still just re-activate upon respawn

[lofty rapids]

the hud is a class in your gamemode override

that you can use begin play on and create widgets set references

[maiden wadi]

Are you sure you don't mean bundled PSOs? Precaching is not the same thing. Bundled PSOs are compiled early on. And you do it in the main menu usually.

[narrow sentinel]

so bundled is the older version 5.3 and earlier

PSO precaching is the method they did for 5.4 and later versions

[maiden wadi]

Precaching has been around since 5.1. Bundled has been around since UE4. But close enough. And they can work together.

[narrow sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i35yf-wh3Bs - Arr i see so in this video I misread it they say in 5.3 and later its on by default precaching

[maiden wadi]

5.3 may be when it became "production ready". But it's been in since 5.1

[narrow sentinel]

most likley

[maiden wadi]

I believe Fortnite is entirely precache, I don't think they use bundled stuff.

[narrow sentinel]

well at the moment I'm trying to leverage the ability where the precache can be done on intial load

[lofty rapids]

#multiplayer might know more about it

[glossy crag]

trying to find this and cant

[dapper thunder]

Bump😁

[lofty rapids]

bottom right

you need to create the HUD class first

[glossy crag]

ohhh gotcha

[lofty rapids]

and then assign it in here, game mode override

[glossy crag]

how am I supposed to get the life count variable in here though?

[lofty rapids]

you don't

you could, but you don't

keep the life and everything the same

just use the widget reference from the hud

[glossy crag]

but the life count display needs it as an input

just made a variable out of it and set the default

i overrode with the HUD and they dont appear but Im sure I need to connect the exec pins on these to something

i havent made any custom game modes though so I am unsure as to what node

[lofty rapids]

your putting all the wrong stuff on there

only the widgets creations need to be in the hud

the rest you keep in the code you had

[glossy crag]

gotcha one moment

[lofty rapids]

create the two widgets, add them to viewport, then in the original code

replace the create and adds, with the reference from the hud

where BP_MyHud is whatever hud you created and set in hyour override

then you pull from the as bp my hud, and get your reference

then use this in the original code instead of create reference

[glossy crag]

I mightve amde my hud wrong, I set it up as a gamemode base

it wont let me cast

[lofty rapids]

not

create new blueprint

literally search for "HUD"

create that as the new class

and then set it in the override

[glossy crag]

OH

alright give me a sec and ill start linking everything

I didn't realize it had its own class

[lofty rapids]

yes it has it's own class, and then you can switch out your huds for different levels

this way it doesn't show up in your main menu level as long as you have a different override

[glossy crag]

I probably messed something up, it just shows Text Block now

[olive yarrow]

new questiiooooonnnn when my widget constructs itself - the texts and such that are pure casts throw an error. just once, mind you as then it finds what it's looking for but performance wise what am i overlooking?

[glossy crag]

it wouldnt let me do Get from the hud

[olive yarrow]

oh yikes i jumped in during something way more important

[lofty rapids]

ya the white is execution

you got no power

[glossy crag]

I tried doing it from BeginPlay but that gave a bad reference error

[lofty rapids]

as far as did you set the hud in the override ?

[lofty rapids]

can you show the code ?

[glossy crag]

yeah I did

just stuck it at after the Set respawn transform and Im p sure it crashed UE5 lol

[lofty rapids]

wdym something like bad cast ?

[glossy crag]

one sec i need to reopen it since it crashed

[lofty rapids]

why are you just trying random shit ?

lol

[glossy crag]

I thought maybe putting it after the player is spawned it might work

the greatest minds made electricity from doing nothing right

im jk

it should let me restore my session

[olive yarrow]

cancel that engage - ive been cleaning up my code after a meltdown and uh.. forgot to change a delay.

[lofty rapids]

you have some seriously odd logic here, you set a variable toitself and set something to null, and try to use that as a target ?

like i mentioned, all you had to do was replace the widge references

[glossy crag]

god damnit it just rolled me back

I tried replacing them but it wouldnt let me access them in the TP char event graph

it would only let me set them from the cast

[lofty rapids]

your code was odd tbh, it did a couple weird things i think you need to look into the basics of blueprints

watch some tuts

[glossy crag]

this is all i have after restarting

i left the lifedisplay thing just to have it there

[lofty rapids]

so make it look like it did in the original image you sent

that was working but overlapping

basically see how you used the ref

the variable said ref

you pulled from the creates

just replace that

idk how to simplify this anymore then that tbh

my thing is i don't mind helping, but you need to have an understanding of how things are working or i can't do anything to help

or i'd be wasting my time literally telling you every single little detail to do

[glossy crag]

I plan to go super in depth into blueprint details but I'm just in the middle of a summer class for my university and we have less than 2-3 weeks to make a functional game

so I've been kind of limited for the time being until its over

ill try to find some stuff online

[lofty rapids]

ya i hear ya, its tough when your on a time crunch

kind of got to set prioritys

but a little understanding of how blueprints work would make things a lot easier

i can tell you how to fix it, but it's to you to actually do it

you just need to "replace the reference"

" replacing a reference means changing what an asset or object is pointing to" -google ai

[lofty rapids]

you want to create the widget, promote to variable in your hud

so that you have this variable as your reference you can get anywhere

[glossy crag]

right

I did that but I cant access it anywhere else

when I drag out from the cast to hud it doesnt let me

[lofty rapids]

show what your saying

[lofty rapids]

then you didn't promote to variable ? show the code

[faint pasture]

If you must do things like that at least just have the HUD know when a new pawn is around and handle setting stuff up

there's zero reason why the pawn needs to be talking to LifeCount directly

[jagged moss]

easiest way to determin what side of a dice is up?

[lofty rapids]

dot product most likely

[jagged moss]

i played around a bit with that but could not figure out how it worked, any tips?

[lofty rapids]

just that it gives you a range from -1 to 1, and this shows if you are on which side compared to the angle

[glossy crag]

this is what I ended up doing, but i get errors of the hud ref being null

I just dragged as hud c lass out and promoted to var

[lofty rapids]

but you deleted the set

it creates a set

get the hudref variable from the left

drag it out in front of the cast

and choose set

and plug as hud class into it

when you promote to variable you need to set the variable thats why it creates that node for you

[glossy crag]

i tried that too but it also didnt work

[lofty rapids]

it does work though if you do it right

[glossy crag]

it was one less read None error

[lofty rapids]

so what is the error for this code ?

[glossy crag]

ah it changed

its my textblock now

i should be able to get that one

[frosty heron]

Setting the value from external source is really really bad practice

It should be the other way around

Widget should be the one getting the life count

[lofty rapids]

they probably just followed a tut i think they said that

[glossy crag]

yeahhhh

[frosty heron]

A lot of tutorial should get deleted

[glossy crag]

I couldnt find any good ones on the specific thing I needed

also I cannot find the issue with this set text block

it shouldnt be having issues

[lofty rapids]

is this your widget ?

[glossy crag]

yeah this is all my widget has

its what it had when it was working earlier too

i replugged in the right references

[frosty heron]

You need to makesure the widget is already created before using it

This maybe a race condition

[glossy crag]

thats what the HUD class should be doing

I only have the two widget creations and add to viewport there

[lofty rapids]

"race condition" means it could be loaded before or after

[frosty heron]

W.e it is you need to ensure that the widget is already created before use

[lofty rapids]

on begin play where you get the reference

delay to next tick

if that fixes it then thats the problem

[glossy crag]

like from the cast to hud into the delay?

if so it still gave same error

[frosty heron]

Where is this?

[lofty rapids]

no straight from begin play first thing

[glossy crag]

its in my TP character bp

[lofty rapids]

delay the whole thing untill next tick

[glossy crag]

ah gotcha let me try that

nah same issue

[lofty rapids]

can you show your override and your hud ?

[glossy crag]

it still spawns the widget when I start and has the default Text block

[lofty rapids]

well theres a problem

[frosty heron]

You never even set it

[glossy crag]

I think I have been misunderstanding the tutorials I was watching for certain things lol

they commonly drag and promote to variable and make their ref that way and it would just work for some reason

[lofty rapids]

well they probably didn't delete the set node

because when you promote to variable it creates the node you need

if you delete that it doesn't work

it just makes the variable, but you have a variable with no value

[glossy crag]

ahhh I see

it works now but has some errors for the pickups and death, likely just need to rewire some stuff now

thank yall for the help

ill lyk if i run into anything weird

[faint pasture]

the face who's Dot(Face.Normal, World.Up) is highest is the one that's up

a perfectly up face will have that dot be 1.0, and one on the side will be 0, and the down one will be -1

[glossy crag]

everything works now but the only weird thing is I get these errors

theres no issues with decrementing or incrementing

it just triggers this if I die whatsoever

even if I dont touch any banana life pickups

[faint pasture]

why are you getting other actor's instigator

just check if other actor is the character

[glossy crag]

just what the tutorial had me do

[faint pasture]

that tutorial is shit then

[lofty rapids]

lol you just need other actor

cast to your player

[lofty rapids]

tutorials can be helpful but blindly using them is a common mistake

[faint pasture]

What you have right now is asking "Is other actors instigator a BP_ThirdPersonCharacter1?"
When what you want is to ask "Is the other actor a BP_ThirdPersonCharacter1"

[lofty rapids]

even people go a long time and a long way in a video game just following tutorials

[faint pasture]

That might be a race condition

[lofty rapids]

without really understanding things

[faint pasture]

you might be destroying something then trying to modify it after the destroy call

[jagged moss]

How do I link this back to the correct name? im kinda stuck on this

[glossy crag]

im not sure why tbh

the life pickup shouldnt destroy unless touched

it doesnt cause any functional issues but i dont like the error appearing

[faint pasture]

have a socket or a scene component that faces each one of the directions. Or get the die's Forward, Right, and Up directions and their opposites

[jagged moss]

i got arrows on each side

[faint pasture]

get each arrow's Forward direction and dot that vs 0,0,1

[glossy crag]

i get the same error even with other actor instead of instigator

[faint pasture]

assuming arrows point on their own X which I think they do

[lofty rapids]

see which arrow has the highest z

[jagged moss]

I started out like this

[faint pasture]

yeah this can work too

[warped pewter]

can someone pleasee explain what i have to do to make the grid placement lines on the ground?

[faint pasture]

If you wanna break out the z component then don't even dot

[warped pewter]

i made the whole placement system i only dont know how to make the white lines

[faint pasture]

just check which has the highest z component

[lofty rapids]

if you have arrows the z approach is the easiest

[faint pasture]

actually should be X tho

assuming arrows point in X which I think they do

[jagged moss]

wait why should it be X?

[faint pasture]

er nvm Forward is the x vector

[lofty rapids]

they all point straight in a direction right ?

[jagged moss]

oh, maybe its been correct earlier then

[faint pasture]

you want forward's Z component (which IS the dot product vs Z)

[glossy crag]

I fixed it

wanna hear how

I moved the actor

I had one like

right in front of player start, and it was disappearing before I respawned

but didnt count as a pickup

[faint pasture]

Race condition

overlap probably happened before begin play or something to that effect

[glossy crag]

epic

i was worried it was something much deeper and was ready to pull my hair out

[faint pasture]

Whichever Arrow.Forward.Z is biggest is the uppest one

[lofty rapids]

what does it look like when it lands ?

[faint pasture]

that's the same number as the dot product

[lofty rapids]

cant tell but up z should be a simple approach

[glossy crag]

do you guys recommend Stephen Ulibarri's courses for actual understanding of BPs?

[faint pasture]

Probably more than whatever tutorial you were watching

[glossy crag]

I already have the courses since I got them cheap a while back but haven't started since my game class takes priority

I will probably shift more towards the C++ side since thats what I know I just was on a time limit and blueprints seem more streamlined

[glossy crag]

it was hard to come by tutorials for specific mechanics I wanted which surprises me considering UEs popularity

[faint pasture]

I mean once you know the general structure and architecture of the engine, most mechanics are fairly obvious

Or at least the quick and dirty way to do them is

The most important thing is wrapping your head around the engine's structure and then BP/C++ is just a tradeoff of ease and speed to write vs capabilities and performance

[lofty rapids]

just need to learn the foundation and everything else will be so much easier

[faint pasture]

It's pretty much the exact same API, most BP nodes are directly calling a C++ function

[glossy crag]

I figured, most have told me the C++ side is mostly for customizing said functions

where you are locked to whatever the engine has for BPs

[faint pasture]

That and doing the heavy lifting

C++ is about 100x faster, now whether or not that matters completely depends on the work you're doing

[glossy crag]

thankfully the game im making for my class is inspired by low poly stuff so i have luckily had little issue with running it

only con is the size of UE5, my assets altogether are roughly 30 mb while the entire game which is barely even a demo is almost 450

[faint pasture]

is that totally stripped and cooked or the project folder size?

Unreal is never gonna be tiny

[glossy crag]

unsure tbh, I built the project in Shipping mode and that was the size of the zip

[faint pasture]

You could make it smaller through some ways but whether or not that's worth it totally depends

[glossy crag]

im not sure if its bloat or not tbh

what you see in this vid is legit all I have in terms of like

content

I tried a plugin to cleanup unused things and it dropped maybe 70 mb

[jagged moss]

Its somewhat working now, but is it possible to get the name of the arrow component or is it lost in the array?

[glossy crag]

all the assets are handmade by me so none of the blender stuff is more than a few mb at most cause im a total noob at blender

idrk why its size is so big

[faint pasture]

Just put them in the array by order and return the number based on that is what I'd do

Result = Index + 1

[jagged moss]

ah

thanks

[faint pasture]

You got gameplay, an art style, and UI, that's a lot further than many projects get

[glossy crag]

I'm really happy with what I have with the short time I had but I just cant fathom how it is nearly half a gig

[jagged moss]

thank you ^^ This worked well and I ended up with something a lot less complicated than what i could find online

[glossy crag]

its maybe 5 mins of gameplay

It probably is just UE5 being UE5 but

[faint pasture]

You could maby strip out a bunch of unused plugins but idk how worth it it'd be

[glossy crag]

are there default ones that UE forces? I only have a project cleaner installed but it only targets unused assets

[grand oasis]

Hey everyone just looking for ideas about how you would go about a few things and best practices:
How would you Seperate Local and Multiplayer character controllers? Instanced from a main or some other way?
How would you Apply Power ups/Pick ups? My current thought is through the game mode and applying / spawning on server side on top of characters and have the server do all the heavy lifting.
I can't remember what the thing was called to draw and pull a config type data set of things to apply to characters EG Move speed, jump height, color, buffs, death fx etc...

[sand shore]

Yeah there can be a lot of plugins on by default. You might try this stuff:

https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/reducing-packaged-game-size?application_version=4.27

I’m not sure if there is a more up to date page like this

[frosty heron]

Wdym by multiplayer controller?

Server have a copy of everyone controller.

While client only know their one and only controller.

You can check if a controller is local by using isLocallyController node.

I would use GAS to apply buffs amd power up.

For multiplayer related question there is a channel dedicated for it #multiplayer

[dapper thunder]

any chance anyone has any ideas?

[lofty rapids]

so you draw and the projectile goes down that path ?

interesting concept

[broken wadi]

What if instead of a projectile its just a pawn that can be possessed by the controller and u can fly it that way but the camera is still fixed to the original position, also what are you making is this a fly-by-wire tow missle thing?

[hardy merlin]

Sounds like spline would work. WHat's the problem?

[ancient dagger]

So i'm trying to make a foam particle to appear on surfaces using line trace, and i think i got it working, but there's 1 issue, the particle is overlapping the surface mesh which is causing Z-fighting, is there a way to slightly increase the height of the particle to fix this? the line trace is basically just getting the character location and tracing straight down.

[grand oasis]

Not the BP_Controller, I mean like Local Player and online player blueprints and inputs. Local as in same computer inputs not local network

Thank you for the GAS thing, I didn't know this existed

[ancient dagger]

Ok i fixed it, i went to the particle asset itself and set the origin location's Z offset to be 0.1

[frosty heron]

I am not following, wdym by online player blueprints?

As for the input its normally handled in the controller / component attached to controller.

[grand oasis]

Was I not meant to have my inputs on the actual playerBP?

[frosty heron]

You can handle it in many ways depending on your game

[grand oasis]

Hmm, so I would need to pass my inputs to the posessed character BP from the Player controller. and that controller would be spawned as local(not Online) and also work for Online if need be

[frosty heron]

You dont spawn controller, each player are given one.

And client will only know their own controller.

Local controller just mean the control is local to the machine so maybe theres confusion on that part?

There is no "online controller"

[grand oasis]

You could also subtract from z in your bp location set on particle

[frosty heron]

If there are 3 players.

Server will have pc1, pc2, pc3

While each client only have their own pc

[grand oasis]

I think I am wording things wrong. I understand that part that you are explaining

[frosty heron]

#multiplayer pinned material is gold mine.

[dapper thunder]

yes, tho setting location at world coords seems to conflict with a projectile movement component. it would be nice to blend the two or have another way of doing that

[dapper thunder]

i should explain it like this, i want the player to "record" a gesture, then have some action happen based off that. so to start, i'd like an actor to follow that line, while still shooting forward like you shot a projectile. i don't want it to be like jett's ability in valorant, where the projectile moves towards where the camera is pointed. rather i want it to be:

1. gesture recorded
2. set projectile path to that gesture
3. shoot forward while arcing along whatever path was set
4. clear path&gesture

[grand oasis]

But that isn't the question I am asking. My question is do I use an instanced version of my online playerBP which has all my player phsyics and skeleton etc on it. or do I duplicate it and make another one or is there a better way

[dapper thunder]

the projectile moved along a 2d plane when using splines

[dapper thunder]

thanks, trying to make a new genre/mechanic here 😁

[hardy merlin]

That sounds like expected behavior, doesn't it? Do you want the spline to be 3D?

[grand oasis]

I think all Genre and mechanics have been done

[hardy merlin]

Oh the projectile? Sounds like you just need to have the actor's location and rotation be independent.

Do you have video?

[broken wadi]

so its like somebody holding a smoke grenade and waving it around on a windy day with their back to the wind

the path that is created is what you want the projectile to follow?

but the smoke is invisible so there is no visible trail

[dapper thunder]

yeah, i'm 99% sure. a 3d spline would be ideal, tho i'm not sure how i'd manipulate the speed (aka movement over the z axis)

[hardy merlin]

Define "Forward" in your steps, above.

[broken wadi]

So maybe something like press a button, it starts to capture mouse movement and does a line trace with forward vector for each snapshot and then each of those line trace end points is used as the next forward vector for the projectile actor to follow?

[faint pasture]

Don't use controller for when you mean character movement or something to that effect

a controller is a very specific thing in Unreal and it has nothing to do with that

[dapper thunder]

isn't rotation which way it's facing?

[hardy merlin]

Yes. So who's facing do you want it to be facing? The player's facing? Forward along the spline?

[faint pasture]

Draw it in paint.
Draw the mouse path, and what you expect the projectile path to be

[dapper thunder]

i think so. like if the player moves the mouse up and to the right in a curve, the projectile curves slightly up. one sec lemme draw it

[hardy merlin]

It sounds like you are already successfully generating a spline?

[faint pasture]

What I'm guessing you'll want is some homing towards a point along the spline, importantly, make sure you move that point at projectile velocity

[grand oasis]

Why not just spawn a dummy projectile and record it's movement and then actually spawn the projectile that replicates that

[faint pasture]

It sounds like he doesn't want super strict path following

[dapper thunder]

BUT

[grand oasis]

lol

[faint pasture]

Like that? Where it tries to follow but doesn't instantly change direction right off the bat

[dapper thunder]

i want it to always shoot in the general direction the player is facing

[faint pasture]

Yes so do what I said

[hardy merlin]

@dapper thunder Do you have the creation of the spline already solved?

[faint pasture]

make a homing mechanic, ProjectileMovementComponent has that built in

[dapper thunder]

nope, had issues with it

[faint pasture]

then home towards a position along the spline that moves at the same speed the projectile does

get the spline working first though

[lofty rapids]

you can move a point down the spline with the get point at distance

[faint pasture]

yup

[lofty rapids]

and just increase the distance at a certain speed

[faint pasture]

Horse has been lead to water and had face pushed into it

The homing is easy, cooking up the spline will be hard

get comfy with coordinate transforms

[lofty rapids]

i mean trace, make spline point at position

[faint pasture]

assuming there's a cursor yeah

[lofty rapids]

oh yea the mouse could be captured

hmm

[faint pasture]

assuming there's a cursor just get hit result under it per frame, add your desired z height, and that's a spline point

[hardy merlin]

Best way to start is to figure out how to turn mouse gesture into data. I'd recommend starting with an array of 2D vectors, loading one per tick.

[faint pasture]

weird cursor mechanics are tough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Xuh1p-m3P8

This was a bastard but it's easy once you know how

[dapper thunder]

i don't want it to necessarily "home" though, just apply a speed over the z axis

unless that's what you mean?

[faint pasture]

what

z is up

[lofty rapids]

it sure is

[faint pasture]

you want to curve your bullets up and down?

[dapper thunder]

oh sorry, y then?

or is x forward 🤦

[lofty rapids]

depends on who you ask

[faint pasture]

y is global right, what direction do you want the projectile to move in that it otherwise wouldn't have

it sounds like you want homing

in the XY plane

homing towars the path the user drew

[dapper thunder]

exactly, which the mouse captures input on a 2d plane, so that last third dimension i'd want to apply a constant speed to

also not sure yet if i want the path to be exact or not yet

[faint pasture]

i mean you want your constant speed to be 0 vertically probably

[grand oasis]

Reminds me of a thing I made for a client (Diablo)

[faint pasture]

so yes do what I said, get the points, project them to the z height you want, and voila, that's your spline

[faint pasture]

yeah a bit like that but no cursor, the camera rotates so your mouse is really driving yaw and distance sorta

took a lot of work to make it feel good but it feels great, a constant snap of the mouse is a constant angle change, I could hit 90 degree snap shots ez

basically if mouse isn't moving, aim never changes relative to pawn position

[dapper thunder]

only difference is i don't want it to go where the camera/mouse is currently pointed, i want that to be a one time recording that's used then thrown out

[lofty rapids]

so you can record a list of points and then generate the spline based on that

[dapper thunder]

yes vertically and horizontally just map to the mouse input, then distance is where the projectile's speed is set. awful wording 😅

[faint pasture]

so start doing the thing

start by recording points and draw debugging them

[dapper thunder]

so right now i have this in my char bp:

off the completed pin:

[faint pasture]

draw debug those points

they're all very small

ok so i see you rotate and scale and offset, good

er you don't rotate, you just scale and offset. This will break if you're not facing global forward

[late gorge]

hi, im migrating 5.4 to 5.6 and im having trouble identifying what's wrong with a blueprint interface that's unable to load in 5.6
so far i know it's related to stricter memory loading requirements but even completely removing everything from this interface won't get it to load
notes:

• big project, the actors with interface is already placed into levels, but it is not referenced by other blueprints, a lot of other blueprints that probably don't meet the 'no circular dependancies' requirement of 5.6 async loading as i understand it)
• the crash happens when empty level is loaded (so no actors actively placed in level) and the blueprint is edited (try to open it)

how can i tackle something like this? so far the only idea has been massive refactors of all the blueprints or it's some sort of bug and hope a 5.6 patch fixes it

[north bobcat]

why is this issue coming up?

i think its because it aint instance editable but it wont let me change it

[frosty heron]

@north bobcat you are trying to access property of a ptr that is not set

For a start show the code.

[oblique bison]

Hello!
I have been having a problem in UE5.5 where removing items from an data structure array is not quite working properly. (specifically the RemoveIndex node is what's causing problems, I think)

It seems to be removing, then reorganizing/scrambling the remaining values?
Specifically, instead of drawing 8 unique cards, I am drawing "duplicates", even though the cards are being removed from the array ((still 8 cards total))

This is for pulling from the top card in a deck (currently 8 cards in the deck) in a CCG - does anyone have any ideas? 🙂 If there's a better way to do it, I'm all ears as well

[north bobcat]

@frosty heron it is set thats the problem

[frosty heron]

Accesses none means you are trying to access null object at the time you are calling the function.

Can you show more of the code? This doesn't paint enough picture.

You are doing some checks that i cant see on the first page which may bypass the create widget and set function.

Also you need to make sure that the reference is set BEFORE you use it

[north bobcat]

here

this should work fine lol

[north bobcat]

thats the first thing i checked haha

[frosty heron]

So i assumed this is multiplayer then?

And you are running an instance where its not the listen server.

[lofty ridge]

I made a basic sprinting system but idk how to make it for multiplay I made the stamina values copy to each player and each player has individual stamina but my other clients cant sprint for some reason

[frosty heron]

Not possible in blueprint at least for an authority movement.

You need to dive into cpp land and add your sprinting state in the prediction struct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urkLwpnAjO0&list=PLXJlkahwiwPmeABEhjwIALvxRSZkzoQpk&index=1&ab_channel=delgoodie

[lofty ridge]

thank you

[north bobcat]

ye it is

[frosty heron]

If you just play as listen server do you still get the error?

If you dont then you need to make sure that client runs w.e function that create the widget

Widgets r local though, its strange that you would initiate any form of widget in game instance (assuming you are using game instance there)

Initialise your hud in the player hud instead

[north bobcat]

no its gone there

its only when im on a client

[north bobcat]

??

[frosty heron]

Did you create the widget in your game instance?

There's like 0 reason to do it there.

[north bobcat]

all the code i sent you was in there

[frosty heron]

Thats a persistent object

Well that's not all the code, I dont even know whats calling the function and where.

There's not enough info to spot the bug.

[north bobcat]

https://youtu.be/q8Ih5EvStoc?list=PLzykqv-wgIQXompUswD5iHllUHxGY7w0q&t=2025 idk it worked for this dude

[frosty heron]

Blueprint multiplayer tutorial is full of trash content tbh.

I see 80% of the tutorial is teaching the wrong thing

80% is already being diplomatic

I will ask again is the widget created in game instance?

[north bobcat]

yea

[frosty heron]

Ye theres no reason to do it there.

[north bobcat]

its just the set text

[frosty heron]

When do you want the hud to pop up?

[north bobcat]

the hud is fine

[frosty heron]

As soon as the world is loaded?

[north bobcat]

yea

i could do it in the level bp to be fair

[frosty heron]

No u cant

Level bp dont exist on client

[north bobcat]

o

[frosty heron]

And level bp cant communicate with other blueprint classes

Don't use that crap, unless you know the limitation

[north bobcat]

the dude said to do this tho

[frosty heron]

Many people that upload blueprint multiplayer tutorial doesn't know what they r doing

Not being on high horse you can ask in #multiplayer

[north bobcat]

its just a small issue that wont go away lol

[north bobcat]

wym inside the player hud?

i cant open it from inside itself lol what

[frosty heron]

Take a look at the common framework. You need to understand the life time of the object and what the common classes do.

Player hud, game state, player controller, player state

If you want to create widget at the time the world load, you can just do that in your player hud class.

Each player will have their own player hud class

PlayerHud -> begin play -> create widget -> show widget

Done

[north bobcat]

this is all i got lol even i dont understand what half of it is for

[frosty heron]

Then its time to read the pinned material in #multiplayer

Because knowing every single of those object is very crucial

You need to know whats replicated and not.

For example game mode only exist on server. A client attempting to get the game mode will get null.

[north bobcat]

right

[frosty heron]

Server has everyone controller but client only have their own controller.

Again another very crucial concept to understand or bug awaits.

Anyway for your hud i will just create a custom player hud, add it to your game mode.

Then just create at begin play of the hud

[north bobcat]

wait cant i just do it on event begin play in the menu character bp

[frosty heron]

That should create a hud for every single player.

[north bobcat]

this is it right?

oh no wait it is its own class

[frosty heron]

You can but can be dangerous as well if not understood.

Most common error is people create widget on begin play of the character.

Yet every time a character is spawned begin play is called

So often people end up with 3 duplicate widgets when there are 3 characters in the map.

2nd reason is that its not character job to display widget.

You would shove that responsibility to the class responsible for your common widget.

The hud class.

YourCustomPlayerHud-> begin play-> create main menu widget

[north bobcat]

i made one and it just copied my player widget that i alr have lol

dawg you confused the shit outta me lmaooo i dont know whats goin on fr

[frosty heron]

Multiplayer takes a while to soak in. I read the pinned material 2 dozens times and a lot of practice before it clicks in.

And after that its more agony.

Replication is like the easy bit, if your game is fast pace it gets a loootttt harder.

[north bobcat]

all i wanted was to solve this tiny issue lol

[frosty heron]

Nothing complicated from what i suggest though

Create widget on your custom hud begin play

And display it. Thats it

[north bobcat]

but why did it make a copy of my player hud

[frosty heron]

Character is not the right place to show main menu widget for the reason ive stated above.

[frosty heron]

Im not following

[north bobcat]

im not either bro 😭

you said make a custom player hud and it just copied my player ui

[frosty heron]

Each player are instantiated a player hud class. Im not talking about the widget

Create new blueprint, derived it from a player hud.

[north bobcat]

okay now im actually not following lol

[frosty heron]

Then you want to use that player hud in your game mode.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TeXBkqrlAZI&pp=ygURV3RmIGlzIHBsYXllciBodWTSBwkJxwkBhyohjO8%3D

[north bobcat]

you mean make one of these?

[frosty heron]

Shared a video above

[north bobcat]

ight

so basically just do it all in here

thanks bro it worked haha

[sage jungle]

Hello, I have a small problem 🙁

I created a new collision channel called “Player” and when I use it on the Player pawn and launch the game, the player slides to the side...
When I use the “Pawn” collision channel, I no longer have this problem.

When I manually add the Player pawn in the level editor, the pawn does not have the problem. It only happens when going through PlayerStart.

Can you please help me 🙂

[violet bison]

I have a character not controlled by player that I want it to walk towards a direction
how do I simulate the IA_move?

[blissful grail]

Do you want them to only move when the player moves or something?

You can freely call AddMovementInput and just give it a direction

[stuck plank]

It is hard to tell without seeing your Pawn collision settings, but when you add new collision channels I believe their responses for existing channels default to Ignore. Your Player Collision channel is specifically being told to Block all the other channels. I don't know what channel the offending item is in, but if it is in something like Interactable maybe your Pawn channel is set to ignore that.

[dense hinge]

Hiya, is there a way to check if an input is pressed during gameplay ability? I want to have different behaviors for dashing based on whether a directional input is still pressed or not during the ability

[frosty heron]

Single player?

[dense hinge]

Yes

[frosty heron]

If it is you can just get the input value from the cmc

LastMovementInput or something like that, I cant remember on top of my heas

Ability casted -> get the caster character movement comp -> get input-> play montage based on direction

[chilly sundial]

Is it expected that having ~ 200 active projectiles in the world tanks performance?
As a solution I tried implementing a simple custom projectile manager, which just has a projectile struct map and updates the location of projectiles based on velocity every tick.
But spawning 200 projectiles still drops FPS from 75 to 55 and blueprint time goes from 0.6 ms to 5.6 ms.
This is only updating the location with simple math, no collision checking, no effects.
Would it help moving this part to C++?

[lofty rapids]

"Would it help moving this part to C++", imo when it comes to performance, the answer is always yes

but i could be wrong, this is just my opinion

[lofty rapids]

as far as spawning the projectiles, don't spawn/destroy them

this is can be very heavy on performance

try instead to use a pooling

[dense hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYPYfs-EMiw Maybe this helps

[chilly sundial]

yea, I know about pooling, but in my current solution I wouldn't even have projectile actors, it is all just "virtual" in the projectile manager.
I could then just add a niagara effect and also update its location to simulate a moving projectile.
But already this tanks performance, even without spawning any actors.
By "spawning 200 projectiles", I meant adding them to the map, not spawning real actors.

so just this simple math on tick with 200 items in ActiveProjectiles tanks performance

[maiden wadi]

For a start, make some of your nodes non pure. Specially that Find call that is being called about four times for each projectile. Also consider moving this into a function where you can populate the array index into a local property because grabbing that costs a few nodes.

But C++ would certainly speed this up a ton.

[chilly sundial]

Just tried that, moving everything to a function, only running find once, etc. It improves it a bit, but not much.
Guess I'll look into C++, haven't used it before.

[maiden wadi]

Yeah. :/ Scripting languages are nice, but noticeably slow and clunky. For a start I wouldn't do this with a map. Arrays will be better I think. And you should preallocate memory for what you expect your average upper limit to be. It's fine if it grows over this but usual cases should be covered. Then you can do RemoveSwaps to avoid having everything shift when you remove one entry. And you avoid a lot of the costly per node overhead. Plus if you write it well enough this can all be done on worker threads so that it's not just one big loop.

TLDR you get a ton of extra power with C++ here since you're working with basic data.

[lofty rapids]

the performance boost is defiantely noticeable

i would just make a blueprint function library in c++, this is the easiest way to get started

and then just offload the code to the c++ function

[lofty rapids]

blueprint is horrible with loops specifically

[maiden wadi]

That's part of it. But it's also memory allocation and access plus copying here. He doesn't have the tools to avoid excess allocations. Like if his map grows too much and then the whole map needs moved to a larger ram spot, that costs. Everything he's working with here is a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy. Lot of data writes that could be avoided with direct access. Plus all of the blueprint node function call overhead. Math nodes in BP are terrible for this cause you need so many of them to do such simple things.

[sage jungle]

There are the screenshots, and by default Player canal is set to BLOCK.

[narrow sentinel]

out of interest if I load into a new map where the game mode is different to the one in the map I was just in does the stuff like player controller etc all get destroyed and recreated in the class specified within the game mode ??

[barren tangle]

Is there someone who know how to repliacate the Nier Automata run?
When the main character run, and you change the orientation of the character turning aound. The character Relative Rotation (Pitch) is slighly increase to make the charcater curve. Any idea how you calculate that part of the rotation?

[stuck plank]

Unless I am mistaken your screen shot shows Player. I was referring to Pawn. They behave differently so they should have different settings.

[lofty rapids]

pretty much everything gets rebuilt when you load a new level

except for game instance

[narrow sentinel]

awsome yeah only reason I asked is cause if I set game mode to game and UI on map a and then load into map b both have different game modes and different player controllers but look inputs will be a bit off unless I set game mode only before loading map b

[lofty rapids]

hmm, is this specific to map b ? or it does the same when you load a from b ?

[manic comet]

help

[narrow sentinel]

so it seems some how the game mode setting carries over from map a to b even though I wouldn't have thought it would not if the two player controllers and game modes are different on the two maps

[lofty rapids]

Name it something else

[manic comet]

can i add a space??

after hit?

[lofty rapids]

it's not reccommended

[manic comet]

hmm

[lofty rapids]

you mean just an empty space ?

lol

names for variables have to be unique

[manic comet]

yea

bruh

[sage jungle]

"OutHit" ? x)

[lofty rapids]

something like Hit0, hit1

[manic comet]

hitt??

[lofty rapids]

i go with ThisHit

i like using this

[manic comet]

lmfao

ty

ill keep it Hitt oni

simple

[lofty rapids]

whatever works

but you'll eventually want declarative variables

atleast imean that they state what they are

Like HitFromSpecificTrace

so you can easily see the difference

[manic comet]

i see

[sage jungle]

the ground have same behavior for Player and Pawn
Block for both

And i think the problem is not the ground because the player moved in air (before hit ground)
i check all components of the player and all are ok..

[lofty rapids]

so whats the point of the custom channel you made ?

[manic comet]

but in the vid that person dint get the msg

[sage jungle]

so you don't have to check every time to see if it's the right player and call a collision event only for player and the all pawns

[lofty rapids]

youve got a worldstatic object that blocks all including player

andon the player it blocks worldstatic

[lofty rapids]

so you just want your pawns to only collide with the player ?

[manic comet]

@lofty rapids

[sage jungle]

no really
i just want a custom channel to diffentiate every pawn and Player

[lofty rapids]

i mean im a bit confused about this

[sage jungle]

and i have a good behavior for all collision tests but
the player hit something and move of start position

[lofty rapids]

they didn't get the message i see

[manic comet]

wont anything go wrong??

or somthin?

[maiden wadi]

This is because the input mode doesn't belong to these things. The PlayerController simply communicates with lower level systems that also persist. So even though the controller is killed off, the settings last set will remain if nothing else sets them.

[narrow sentinel]

arr thats makes sense then

[lofty rapids]

what do you mean "differentiate from" ?

when ? and for what reason ?

[manic comet]

is there a way to find where is that local variable

[lofty rapids]

ya look on the left side

you should see variables, and local variables

you can also hit ctrl+F

and search "Hit"

[manic comet]

i see variables

wait leme check

[lofty rapids]

yes variables you won't see local variables unless your in a function

but that wouldn't matter, it wouldn't conflict outside of the function

[manic comet]

oni that problem im having

the rest wen im typing Hit it works

i typed Hit so many times

[lofty rapids]

you shouldn't have a problem with this name

it's not literally Hit

the problem is something is already named Hit

exactly "Hit"

and by local it doesn't have to be local variables

just in that blueprint

[manic comet]

then how is there a conflict then??

[lofty rapids]

take a screenshot of your variables on the left

take the hole side

[sage jungle]

i want a custom channel to simplify c++ code
i don't want recheck on collision event Pawn == Player (i'm sure is the player because the collision presets allow only player to fire overlap event)

[manic comet]

im in the calculate ledges tab

sec ill send full ss

there

[lofty rapids]

show the actual variables

not local

you must have a HIt in there

because the regular variables are also available in the function

[manic comet]

like all the type of variable?

like the insides of it

[lofty rapids]

literally where it says variables

click it and show the variables

[lofty rapids]

i would watch a tut on variables

but i can't see all the variables

because you have them closed

but theres a hit in there somewhere