blueprint

[cyan wren]

unreal is so much nicer

[frosty heron]

Yeah I suppose but I am just re-iterating wisdom from wise people.

[frosty heron]

everything have learning curve, it's pain and joy.

[cyan wren]

i did a lot of stuff on halo infinite and its so nice learning unreal cause its like the same stuff im used to but on unreal it actually works

[dark drum]

That might be the case but the built-in damage system passes all the information you could need. It seems silly to remake pretty much the same thing. 🤷

[cyan wren]

are the blueprints noticeably slower than hard code? wondering if i should try to stay away from them or if it doesnt matter?

[frosty heron]

I don't like routing through interface, also it's already implement damage in it's own way.
So not much I can modify when it comes to multiplayer when I need to control the flow (e.g. lag compensation)

And on top of that, I rather have control on everything. Damage system isn't hard to make anyway, so if I need to embed attributes and other data, it's easier to make one my self.

[dark drum]

It depends what your doing but I don't tend to notice unless I'm doing some heavy loop stuff.

[frosty heron]

depends ™

but it's a fact that blueprint is limited.

most of the power is burried in cpp land.

lets look at the most common feature in a game. Loading screen. Can it be done in bp? nope.

[cyan wren]

cant you just lock movement and then cover the screen w ui?

[frosty heron]

blueprint is powerful to connect nodes and hold asset reference.
But doing a system in blueprint can be a spaghetti real quick.

[frosty heron]

that's just slapping a still picture on the player, to me that is not a loading screen.

there should be an ability to async load the next level and have the loading screen not LOCKED.

[cyan wren]

what is a loading screen then?

complete de-load and reload?

[frosty heron]

A system that doesn't block the game thread while loading the next level.

Show loading screen -> Have it display loading bar without hitches / freeze the game completly -> Async load the next level -> Unload the loading screen.

[dark drum]

The damage stuff isn't an interface, it's setup on the actor class. And from the instigator, damage causer and damage type you could get what you need.

Of course if it's easier to make it yourself then there is not much for me to say.

[dark drum]

I am surprised they haven't added an 'Async Load Level'.

[frosty heron]

It's there in cpp, I am using it atm.

but gonna completly start over and follow common loading screen.

[cyan wren]

what is async load, is that calling from memory rather than complete reload? im somewhat unfamiliar with the concept?

[dark drum]

Missing those magic words to expose I'm sure lol.

[frosty heron]

anything related to world seems to be hidden. I think epic scared of what designer may do.

[dark drum]

Loads using a separate thread so it doesn't block the main thread.

[cyan wren]

so its just loading anything without interupting gameplay? im confused?

[dark drum]

Yea they should loosen up a bit in that. I get hiding the world object ref so people can't force load map after map but beyond that, give me access lol.

[dark drum]

If you load on the main thread it prevents anything else from happening until it's completed.

Async load happens on a different thread meaning you can still do stuff on the main thread.

Loading a lot of assets can sometimes take a second which can result in stuttering if done frequently.

[cyan wren]

okay, okay, ill try to read up on it, i didnt even think of that as an issue honestly. thank you btw

[proud magnet]

Thank you for the insight! I think you're totally right and it makes sense to me. The issue is fixing it! I need to figure out whats wrong with the widget so that there is no offset...

[dark drum]

Definitely worth reading up on soft references. However, if you're working on a small game where all your assets are being used in the map, they'll all be loaded anyway so might not be a necessity. The only thing I'd async load in this scenario are audio files.

Bigger games with lots of different assets being needed at different times then it can be a requirement.

[cyan wren]

I can code, i figure why not, and im probably gonna have a lot of loading lol, its gonna be a linear fps campaign type deal

Knowledge is power

[cyan wren]

Im glad i could help :)

[dark drum]

To fully utilise soft references you need to have good hierarchy and composition so it's definitely worth brushing up on that if you need too.

[cyan wren]

Any idea where i would start trying to find that or am i gonna have to break into a lecture hall?

Like the logistics of save load and everything

[dark drum]

I don't have any specific sources. I just read different things for object oriented programming.

[frosty heron]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K0ENnLV19Cw&t=2129s&pp=ygUYc29mdCByZWZlcmVuY2UgZGVtaXN0aWZ5

Epic official video is quiet formative

[dark drum]

Saving and loading data generated during gameplay is its own thing but that's save game objects in BP. C++ has some stuff to help make it a little easier if you don't mind dabbling.

[cyan wren]

Really appreciate you guys, gave me some pretty interesting shtuff to look at and helped me pass a screen id been staring at for an hour, pretty damn cool thank ya lol! :)

[astral summit]

Great, does it accept changing the path using Blueprint? Like changing the start location and the end location is fixed

[full badge]

you can make it play different level sequence?

[astral summit]

I have a bunch of cards in different locations in the map. I want to make them all go to the center of the map. It's tiring to make level sequences for each one. Can I do one for all of them?

The Marketplace has a plugin to move actors that solves this problem, but I’m wondering if UE5 has its own built-in solution for it

[pallid cypress]

Hi guys. I have problem to be able to click the mesh that is inside the mesh. So I have this actor BP and if I click it I want to play event, but click around it I want to be able to rotate it by dragging the mouse. So I create the cylinder object that bigger than the character. So when I hold the mouse button and drag everythigs works good, but now when I click on the body it's nothing happening becasue the cylinder object is cover the characer. So how can do that the clicking the body will take as higher pioryty but in the same time it will not ignore the event when I click on cylidner?

I believe it's something about Collision now my collision for Cylinder looks like this

and for the body

[graceful sage]

Do I need to do this in c++ for UObject it doesn't have a tick function

[lofty rapids]

instead of using this cycinder you can do some maths using the bounds multiplied by a scale

to do what your doing, instead of using the click events

use some custom channels and line traces

but imo it may be more efficient to do some math calculations and rotate based on mousedown position vs current position

[dark drum]

Yes if you want an actual 'Tick' event but you can set it up using a manager component that keeps track of the uobjects and on tick, calls a function on the uobjects and passes delta time.

[pallid cypress]

How can I do this? Sorry I'm beginning

[graceful sage]

In project settings under collision

[frosty heron]

For timeline, you don't need C++

you can make the timeline lives inside the UObject or an actor component.

Instantiate one everytime you want to create a timer and have a callback.

[graceful sage]

By manager component you mean actor component? I don't think it need to go that far but not sure. Just needing somewhere to manager money depletion

[frosty heron]

though I can't say that's the issue with what ever you have right now.

[lofty rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiEAVfbFsCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPQmWOF_5Ck

[dark drum]

Either way, you shouldn't be keeping tack of things like money in widgets. Widgets just pull its data from none widgets and display it.

[frosty heron]

1000%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4fE2JdFdvY&t=436s

[graceful sage]

Well it does it smoothly now and readys correctly but I think it's flawed how I deplete the money because it's not accounting for other objects depleting the money so I end up with the money depleting down to incorrect amount

I understand that.

[lofty rapids]

probably because of your events timing

and using seperate money values

[graceful sage]

I've gotten rid of money left to deplete it was kinda dumb how I did that

[dark drum]

It sounds like you need some sort of manager class to keep track and handle it. 😉

[frosty heron]

having money on each of your Build UI sounds like a total mistake.
I mean shouldn't you get money from one source. Which is the player that owns the widget.

Widget -> Get Owner -> Get Inventory Component -> Get Money.

[lofty rapids]

i'm a big fan of manager actor

[graceful sage]

Lol that's why I was going to use a object

[dark drum]

If your not thinking, 'Do my managers need a manager?' your doing it wrong. 😛

[graceful sage]

I need a ceo

[graceful sage]

The money variable is located on the controller

[lofty rapids]

whats the code look like now that isn't working ?

i would put the money in the game instance tbh

but if your not loading seperate levels, it doesn't matter

[graceful sage]

I just haven't ironed all that out as I was trying to think of best way to deplete ig

[frosty heron]

For a game jam, maybe that doesn't matter, but controller should, well control what ever pawn / unit it owns, not manage money.
You should make an actor component which you then attach to your controller. That actor component can hold your attribute, including money.

[lofty rapids]

money = money - (cost * delta)

[dark drum]

GameState or GameMode

I wouldn't put gameplay stuff on the game instance.

[lofty rapids]

they don't persist through levels though ?

[graceful sage]

I've tried that i think didn't exactly work i think

[dark drum]

It takes like 5 mins to save it using a save game object if you need it to persist across levels.

[lofty rapids]

i'd wrather not lol

just my opinion i put all my globals in the game instance

anything i need to persist across levels

but if it's one level, it doesn't even matter where you put it imo

[graceful sage]

I'm basically making a command and conquer type rts so money wouldn't need to be carried over

[frosty heron]

I wouldn't use the main GI either. At the very least a GI subsystem, but it's really questionable to do that...
What if you have another game mode on the next level? What if you want to restart the resource?

Imo, keep gameplay stuff outside GI. If you need the value to be transfered over, then you can pass to G.I.

[dark drum]

You could just create a globals save game object. Either way, if you want progress to be saved after you close out, its got to be saved anyway. Plus it stops your game instance from getting cluttered.

[lofty rapids]

^

[graceful sage]

I'll have to boot it up one sec

I'm using finterp cause some suggested before I forget who

[frosty heron]

even if it did, there's no reason to store that in your G.I. Infact that will be the wrong move imho.
The money should belong to the player, not some persistent object.

I would guess you are not doing multiplayer but if you are, then each player will have their own money and you can track it that way.
Doing that on the G.I will be a hot mess.

[pallid cypress]

Thank you I will check that

[graceful sage]

That's why it's on controller

[lofty rapids]

it's really can be anywhere

even on the manager itself

[frosty heron]

not really, needs to make sense.

[lofty rapids]

no it doesn't lol

if someone wants in a place they can have it that way

it doesn't need to make sense imo

[frosty heron]

that's totally wrong

if you don';t pick the right tool, you will end up making a hot mess.

[lofty rapids]

it's just a programming theory of mine, freedom to do what you want

[dark drum]

Only for single player and your the only dev.

[lofty rapids]

it may not be right, but it's definately possible

right for single player of course

[frosty heron]

even for single player, why should we pick the wrong object type?

need something that you can just attach to any actor? use component.

Inventories, attributes, etc.

[dark drum]

Yea, I'd still try to get into good habits. You never know what the future holds.

[frosty heron]

Need a singleton to manage instances? then yeah use object.

[lofty rapids]

i'm saying it technically doesn't matter, if they want it in the controller it can be there

[frosty heron]

imagine making your attributes in G.I.
Next time you want to make attributes for an enemy A.I, what you gonna do? start over and make a new one in G.I?

it does matter.

technically IT matters a lot

[graceful sage]

this works but Obvisously if doing more than one it depletes wrong cause of target needs to be adjusted

[frosty heron]

I don't want to argue but that's such a harmful advice I gotta say something.

[graceful sage]

and i know interp sppeed is high

[frosty heron]

get used to let widget Read only.

you are placing all the gameplay stuff in the widget all over the place.

[lofty rapids]

that interp speed is wild

[lofty rapids]

lol, ya it's a scale i think

[graceful sage]

wym this tick?

[frosty heron]

I'm not talking about tick, I'm talking about build time, StartTime, is building, and the rest of them.

[graceful sage]

thats not being used

[frosty heron]

that should be a value you pulled from some manager or component, not something you dump in the widget.

[graceful sage]

i just created to reference for later

[frosty heron]

You should be able to construct your building WITHOUT your widget.

[graceful sage]

as someone said this yesterday

i can

[frosty heron]

The moment you let Widget just read and show visual, you will thank your self.
I've been there m8.

[graceful sage]

the building is in c+++

unless you just mean this preview building call??

[lofty rapids]

this could be in a manager actor like mentioned, you could put it on tick and run a loop instead of ticking each one

[graceful sage]

thats the plan

[lofty rapids]

be careful with loops in bp, they are so slow its really fkd

try to be efficient

[graceful sage]

for sure

so if i put in a manager i would just update the progress and money text from there

?

[frosty heron]

easiest way to picture it, is to get pen and paper.

[lofty rapids]

right, get a reference to the widget from where you created it

[frosty heron]

You establish relationship, members variables and doddle the functions on what each class has/does.

PlayerController can have Buildings Component.

Buildings Component can contain an array of Buildings. It represents the buildings the player own.
Each Building has it's own data. Building Time, Cost, etc.

You can then construct those data in the widget anytime, by passing the component reference to the widget.

[little agate]

make class diagram and ERD lol

[frosty heron]

masih bangun? 😄

imma sleep, gl gn.

[little agate]

still too early for that

[lofty rapids]

try money = money - (cost * delta) instead of interp

clamp it probably

[graceful sage]

im gonna go to sleep too ive been up for 26 hours lol

[dark drum]

These are the classes I use. The Crafting manager creates the 'Crafting Task' objects and stores them. The Crafting task store the recipe it relates to (a data asset) and the time remaining. The 'Crafter' component is use to control a visual representation in the world. A crafting task can be assigned to it and it'll pull its data and bind to the relevent event dispatchers so it can update the visual stuff in the world.

When I want to display the crafting tasks in the UI, i get the crafting manager and get the Crafting Tasks and create an icon for each of them.

[graceful sage]

interesting

[dark drum]

It'll also make it easier when it comes to saving because all the data is in one place.

[graceful sage]

right on.

I need to get some sleep tho thanks for the info all

[sharp ferry]

learning BP is painfull

what was ur first task made ur own with BP?

[zinc flicker]

I have a question about Object Pooling

I understand the principle of Object Pooling, you have 50 Bullets hidden and when you shoot it takes one of it out of the pool and when it hits a wall and explodes it goes back to the pool.

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Now my first question is with a following example that is easy to understand.

What if i make a game like Vampire Survivors where you have tons of different bullets and weapons.

Lets say you have a gun that shoots 10 bullets around you ever 2 seconds, so maybe there total of 30 displayed at any time, that means i would need to pool 30 of them.

Now lets say i have multiple weapons like 10 throwing axes, 20 fireballs, 10 electro balls etc.

Does that mean i need to pool like 500 bullets? Even if some of them are never used since the player might not have the specific weapon?

Is that a wise idea or does that have some performance issue?

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Now question two

If i can use object pooling for bullets, i can use it for enemys too, so lets say first wave is 20 skeletons and every time one dies it spawns a new one. So that means i pool 20 skeletons.

Lets say later on there 50 zombies and other monsters, lets say at the end there is 300 slimes.

Not all monster are displayed maybe the skeletons are only displayed in first 5min and later on not again.

Would that mean i need to pool 20 skeletons, 50 zombies, 300 slimes + all other waves?

Lets say its a total amount of 1500 monster that sometimes are used depends on the time.

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My question is if i pool lets say 500 bullets and 1500 monsters is that something that will have a performance impact?

Since they don't really require some complex AI i could just use general blueprint with walking animation mesh and 2 collider for dmg and collision and a health component and a move to player.

For the bullets its the same a collision when exploding on the wall and a mesh / niagara effect when flying and a dmg component.

Thanks

[gusty crater]

Im just starting to male a game similar. At the start i won't jave any bullets pooled. But as they are shooting i will add them to a pool, if the pool runs out it'll spawn an extra 10 and add to the pool, and keep going etc. Im pretty new and don't know if ots a good way, just what i was thinking

[unkempt hound]

My GOATs. A quick question regarding some text with context. Incoming NPC text needs to refer to the player by name. What's a good way to format it?

For example the incoming dialogue says "Hey {$playername} Good to see you!" and this comes in dynamically to a Rich Text Box. What's a good way to set this up?

Maybe do a if string contains {$playername} replace it with playername variable?

[dark drum]

You can use the format text node to build the final text to be displayed.

[unkempt hound]

Thank you Patty King 🙏 👑

[lofty rapids]

one of my favorite nodes, format text

[tight pollen]

I’m creating a cone angle using line traces, but when the character rotates, the traces get misaligned.

some ideas?

I probably need to account for the actor’s rotation somehow, but I’m not really sure how to do it — I’m not very good with vector math.

[faint pasture]

Forward already does, but you are doing your math in a way that's sensitive to gimbal lock

You want to cook up the pitched rotation, then combine with the roll to do the cone, then combine with control rotation or forward to rotation

Combine rotators

The only time you should see an euler angle is the first node where you pitch by cone angle

[sand shore]

Answer 1: Generally this is more of a question of memory, because you can spawn these projectiles behind a loading screen, or with spare frametime.

Answer 2: You could release a pool when you’re done with it, however it won’t necessarily immediately relieve memory pressure - you would need to also garbage collect, but I don’t know if you can trigger that from BP.

Something you might be able to do is flatten your enemy/projectile actors into a single type (one enemy type , one projectile type). When you need a specific enemy, take an enemy actor from the pool and assign it a mesh, behavior set, etc. Returning it to the pool involves detaching behaviors, maybe clearing the mesh. If you have stateful behaviors and those are implemented as objects, you can also pool those.

If you roll graphics of some kind after the player has chosen a new weapon, then you can use those frames to populate the pool

[zinc flicker]

Thanks a lot, to answer 2, if i understand you correct you dont pool 20 zombies 50 skeletons 300 slimes, you just pool 300 ENEMYS and when a enemy is pooled the "mesh" gets replaced with the enemy that you want and the health gets adjusted for that enemy. So in total you no longer pool 1500 enemys rather maybe 400.

To answer 1, yes in theory i could fade in black before playing the game like 1-2 sec black screen, not really sure how much time it takes to pool everything but i guess that might be enough.

The other thing you mention is "releasing a pool" lets say you release the zombies and then you only have the skeletons and slimes left. But i think the option with creating 300 enemys pools and then assign the specific typ might be better.

What i wonder is, could that be used for bullets too so now you no longer have 50 fire bullets, 20 light bullets, and 100 water bullets, you just have 200 "bullets" and it takes what it needs and assign a new type.

I wonder if that assigning is heavy when you need replace the mesh / speed / animation / health of each pool.

And would you add a time blocker for example only 1 pool every 0.1 sec on a timer? Because lets say you kill 50 enemys with 1 ultimate attack it would instant put 50 enemy back to the pool and respawn them, not sure that takes performance or if thats actually the best way of doing.

One thing that i read in the forums is that Navmesh and Acotr movement component would take tons of performance, so i was rather thinking to use just "blueprint" and the mesh is permanent in a walking animation with a "MOVE TO PLAYER" node.

Someone in the forum mention you could just do a event on TICK and move towards the player on tick without navmesh...

But when i think about 300 actors moving towards a player on TICK i almost feel like i dont want to have 60 ticks on 300 actors boosting on my pc...

[sand shore]

I wonder if that assigning is heavy when you need replace the mesh / speed / animation / health of each pool.

Well, the best way to understand how the game performs is to profile it. If you use the profiler and find that assignment of the behaviors/mesh takes a long time, then an option you have is to have a general pool of EnemyActor and then smaller pools for Vampire EnemyActors (which are EnemyActors that are already configured to BE Vampires). When you're about to spawn a wave of Vampires, you spend a few (dozen?) frames populating the Vampire pool from the general enemy pool, then you spawn vamps from the vamp pool. When the wave is over, you wait for all the vamps to be released to the vamp pool, then you release the vamp pool to the general pool.

Keep in mind also that Niagara has a pooling system too.

And would you add a time blocker for example only 1 pool every 0.1 sec on a timer? Because lets say you kill 50 enemys with 1 ultimate attack it would instant put 50 enemy back to the pool and respawn them, not sure that takes performance or if thats actually the best way of doing.

The ideal way to do something like this is with a queue and the idea of "timeslicing". Essentially, you wait until the end of the frame, and you keep processing the queue until you run out of "spare" frametime.

Say you're targeting 60fps. If you know how long it's been since you LAST finished processing the queue (for our example let's say it's been 13ms), then you have some amount of time to do things to your queue (~3.6ms in the example, as 60fps is 16.66ms) before you threaten to go "over" your frametime budget.

So you take an item off the queue, do your thing to it, and re-check how long its been. It might have taken you 4ms to do your thing, so you're out of time and need to immediately let the next frame start.

This is way more significant when populating a general pool with freshly spawned actors

One thing that i read in the forums-
https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/profiler-tool-reference?application_version=4.27
https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/unreal-insights-in-unreal-engine

one of the best things about video games is that they're software. you can make your enemies do whatever you want, use navmesh, have dozens of particles, have a whole animation component, and just have fun. But suddenly, if you need to support lower hardware, or you discover that your enemy eats a lot of performance, you can then just ... not do it that way. You can remove the navmesh and replace it with just interpolation. You can go from ticking 400 individual actors and you can update actors some other way.

Nobody is going to be able to outline a plan for your specific unique game that strikes the right balance between game "juice" and performance on a blank whiteboard

[zinc flicker]

I see thanks again i will research little more and test around, i was just thinking i start with one specific direction.

I read on some forums that "object pooling" is more an unity thing since the performance is like +300% for unity, but for Unreal its almost not necessary.

But i still think it might be a good way of doing it, if i have 300 enemy's.

I try to figure out if just "destroying and spawning" would be a huge impact on performance, since some sources say the impact is minimal other say its huge.

[sand shore]

Spawning / object creation can be heavy

[zinc flicker]

I see, jeah most guides stuff i followed where "spawning and destroying" but it was mostly bullets and now then an enemy but not in the scale i like to swarm the player.

[sand shore]

It's a great technique to practice, but you won't know if it was worth it until you're spawning real enemies and real particles, and you profile with/without the pooling.

I'd guess that if you want Vampire Survivor type waves (like, almost nothing, then, full screen of individual enemies) that you probably want pooling

[zinc flicker]

There was even another term that i need to research that poped up with pooling, called "garbage collection" but i need to look that up because that term does tell me barley anything.

I was mostly searching for stuff to prevent memory leak and optimizing.

[languid pagoda]

would anyone be able to tell me why this blueprint displays the UI, but doens't remove it once tab is pressed again?

[lofty rapids]

right click the return value from the create widget and promote to variable, then get the variable on the false branch and plug into the object of isvalid

[languid pagoda]

UIReference is the return value, I tried plugging that into the IsValid and still nothing 😦

[tawny hedge]

any way to trigger on begin overlap without projectile movement component? i have an enemy and i cast a skill, it spawns an actor with sphere collision but doesn't trigger the overlap

[lofty rapids]

use the get, drag out from the get and type is valid

replace it

[lofty rapids]

and replace ureference with the reference of the widget

atleast i think thats what you want to do, turn off the one you turned on ?

you can also just switch visibility as well

[languid pagoda]

yeah exactly I want the UI to appear if not showing with TAB and remove it TAB is pressed again

[languid pagoda]

oh?

[lofty rapids]

but to fix your original problem use the new reference that you get is valid of, to remove from parent

so that you remove the last one that you created

[lofty rapids]

yes you can set visibility also, it's a little more efficient if your going to be using this menu often

[languid pagoda]

seems like the logic is right as it alternates between hidden and visable, but the UI remains no matter what

I feel like I'm issing something small like a cast or something

[lofty rapids]

your missing setting the reference to the newly created widget

[lofty rapids]

^

promote to variable

use that reference

[languid pagoda]

So promote the return value of "Create WBP Main UI Widget to a variable and reference it?

[lofty rapids]

yes, you want to reference the one you created

so that it shuts it off, if not then the reference is something else whatever you set it to

[languid pagoda]

ok tried that and still not removing it from the screen. I'm sure Its operator error, but I'm not sure what I'm not doing

[lofty rapids]

show what you have now

[lofty rapids]

you need the set it created

did you delete it ?

probably a good tutorial on variables might help

possibly stuff on references

you want that set that happens when you promote to variable

so you set the variable

to use it's reference

[languid pagoda]

OMG I see what you meant now

it's working

Thanks a bunch @lofty rapids

[languid pagoda]

But nonetheless I do need to watch something to understand this better

[lofty rapids]

ya sometimes i have a hard time explaining things as well

chat help is tough

[languid pagoda]

all good I just appreciate the help

[frosty heron]

One thing that most tutorial hell participant fall into is that they create dependency that will end up hurting them.

Your player character should never tell the widget to do anything, in turn the widget only read from the source (the character in this case).

So dont do playerCharacter-> get widget -> set visibility.

Handle that in your widget, on construct -> set visibility.

If you tie it up with your character then the widget no longer work if it's not the character that summons it since the code lives there.

Get used to one way dependency.

As for toggling your menu, look into event dispatcher.

[lofty rapids]

also don't do this

because your creating them over and over

create the widget on begin play

[frosty heron]

That too and have your hud create the widget instead of the character.

[languid pagoda]

So having anything regarding my widget in my "Character" in my game it's a camera is incorrect?

[languid pagoda]

Oh wow

[frosty heron]

A character deals what a character must do.

Hud deals with the player hud.

Throw codes where they belong too.

[languid pagoda]

that makes sense

[lofty rapids]

it wouldn't be bad if you we remove from parent, but your setting visibility

[cyan wren]

New to unreal, if i want to create a crate with different models indicating different damage states, how would i change the mesh? Would i just use a toggle visibility to hide the mesh that isnt being used? Or is there a better way

[golden stump]

You'd probably want to change a mesh in your Static Mesh component.

[languid pagoda]

got the spawning of the UI on begin play and only have visablity toggle now

@lofty rapids

[golden stump]

The simplest approach would be something like that

It would be better to use some kind of Data Table to link percent with mesh reference but if you'r just starting you probably don't need to go beyond the very basic way🙃

[cyan wren]

Badass man! Thank you a ton!

[sand shore]

If you wanna be technical...

Controller
The controller should bind Inputs like "Toggle UI" because it isn't very likely to be specific to any particular pawn type you might have. Imagine if you wanted to let the player fly around the level as a spectator once they're dead - if your Toggle UI binding is in the pawn actor, now you have to duplicate it for the spectator pawn.

The controller should have an Event Dispatcher that's something along the lines of "MainUiToggleChanged" with boolean parameter

HUD
If you're going to use the HUD actor, it should listen for the controller's MainUiToggleChanged and it can add/remove the Main Widget to/from the viewport

*** -- OR -- ***

Widget
The widget is added by the HUD's begin play, and the widget listens for the controller's MainUiToggleChanged delegate and sets its own visibility depending on that

[lofty rapids]

set visibility to hidden and add to viewport on begin play

[sand shore]

There's always more ways you can bring your work in line with "best practices", but I would prioritize becoming comfortable with the fundamentals, like reference handling first.

If you wanna learn more about "Event Dispatchers", https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/blueprint-communications-in-unreal-engine

[languid pagoda]

I def do, thanks for the detailed post and the link. I'm going to go through it now

[brazen pulsar]

So, I've been working on a lock on mechanic for a third person shooter, trouble is I can't seem to get it as tight as I want it to be. Take a look

[frosty heron]

Object pooling revoles around reusing existing objects.

Say you have a budget of 400 bullets, you can spawn them and when one is "destroyed" they r not really destroyed memory wise.

Hide the bullet and return it to the manager where it's ready to be fired from a weapon again.

Garbage collection works by clearing unreachable objects that no longer used every so often.

If you are in blueprint only project you dont need to worry about it as it is handled already.

Its mostly for folks that allocate memory on the heap. There are instances where they need to manually destroy the object.

[languid pagoda]

Quick question. If my game is single player does this logic still track? And I thought the HUD actor was a sort of legacy type thing. Is it still ok to use it?

[sand shore]

HUD can be a useful place to store UI-only logic. Instead of shoving it in your controller class and gating it behind Is Locally Controlled, you can use AHUD.

Personally, I only mention it because ColdSummer brought it up. HUD does serve the UI role in a strict "one actor per responsibility" sense, but there are alternatives even in that case, and I'm usually wary of overloading folks who are trying to learn

[languid pagoda]

Understood, thanks. Also, the link you sent me is very helpful, thanks again.

[lofty rapids]

i usually put my widget references in the HUD class

because i know where they are

and i can access them from anywhere

[languid pagoda]

Gotcha, I'm going to try and convert it over. Nice challenge for the day 😄

[lofty rapids]

Whats good about that is you can carry it over to different levels in the gamemode override

set the hud class, you got your widgets

[sand shore]

You can also change the HUD class at any particular moment: https://youtu.be/ahuYbfo0mfM

I would have had the HUDs used in the video have different widgets, but, eh

(being able to change it out like that is one of the advantages HUD has over other alternatives, out of the box)

[tropic lark]

I'm trying to set up a system where, after an actor gets destroyed (like when its health reaches zero), a new instance of that actor is spawned at a random location inside a defined area or volume in the level.

How can I do this in Blueprint?

[lofty rapids]

you can just spawn right before you destroy or use the destroyed event

[tropic lark]

Which node should I use?

[lofty rapids]

spawn actor of class

[tropic lark]

But I want it to spawn in a location I specify.

[lofty rapids]

see the transform ?

right click and split pin

transform is, location, rotation, scale

[tropic lark]

thanks i will try

[tropic lark]

So how will it spawn in an area I specify, like aimlabs?

[lofty rapids]

idk what aimlabs is

[lofty rapids]

do you know how nodes have inputs and outputs ?

[tropic lark]

no I just started

[lofty rapids]

there is an input to this node called spawn transform

[lofty rapids]

^

[lofty rapids]

that should do it

[tropic lark]

spawns in the same place

[lofty rapids]

wdym "same place" ?

it will always spawn in that location

[tropic lark]

Wait I will send you a video

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MyDqoZfqVRs

I want to make a system like the game below

I want it to switch places like this

[lofty rapids]

then you want to generate random places within a range

or just create an array of locations

[tropic lark]

i want it

[lofty rapids]

get the center of the location as a variable

[tropic lark]

how

Is it like this?

[frosty heron]

The naive approach is to use GetRandomReachablePointInRadius or something like that.

The better way is to get into EQS but that's too advance for beginner.

[frosty heron]

If you want a random point then you need to provide a random point.

[lofty rapids]

is the actor the space you want to spawn these things ?

[frosty heron]

Get actor location will return the location of the instance that is calling , it will not be random.

[lofty rapids]

well they need to get the center

of wherever they are spawning

[tropic lark]

actor will come out

Come to the voice if you want tell me what I should do

[lofty rapids]

something like this

where range is half the full distance of random

[lofty rapids]

i prefer in chat, but ^ (above) this is how i would randomize that

where your center point is the actor location

you may have to flip the axis depending on how you have it setup

[spark steppe]

wasn't the a random unit vector node? could just scale it by rand range (0, radius)

and flatten/normalize again if you want one axis to be flat

that should do!? (for an random point in a radius, on a flat z circle)

[zinc flicker]

Thanks a lot guess one thing i can take off the list, i currently check some pooling videos and FAB asset store a lot of them use C++ somehow they say its better then doing the youtube video style of "hiding the object and unhinding it"
But not sure if its really better or not so i almost wanne buy them but on the other hand i rather like to do it myself in BP.

Not sure if we talking here about 500% performance or like 5% from C++ vs BP pooling.

[lofty rapids]

c++ is significantly faster at just about everything i think

imo at least from what ive used

[sick sky]

for perf yeah

especially with loops

[loud tree]

Random point in bounding box.
You're welcome.
(Hopefully)

I believe thats how they are doing it in the video

[lunar sleet]

Cpp used to be 10x faster, the gap might be less now. But still I’d say save your money for now, depending on the scale of your project you may not need that much perf increase. Better to build and test first and adjust as needed

[unborn shale]

Can someone help me with this? I can't seem to find the XYZ values for these nodes unlike the demos.

[sour island]

If i want to make two bp actors and want to put boolean in act 1 branch if true, and act 2 with set boolean to be true what did i miss ?, The branch of act 1 wont go true why?

[violet bison]

right click the output
split it

[unborn shale]

ty

[frosty heron]

Its impossible to say about how much performance you gain. It all depends on how memory intensive the object you are trying to spawn.

At the end of the day, you will have to profile to see the difference.

[cyan wren]

im new to unreal, i have this grabbing object script that lets you pickup crates under a certain weight and what not

this script would work fine if i didnt have an inertia based damage system causing everything i pickup to break due to the instant acceleration the object experiences

its pretty funny but not exactly what im after

this system also allows me to huck things at insane velocities which is admittedly fun but not exactly realistic

im trying to figure out how i could slow down the object or make it so it isnt immedietly snapped to my cursor in the way it is

[magic parcel]

Is there another BP node for server travel than the execute command line argument?

[cyan wren]

Everything here you see is the bp

[magic parcel]

I am aware

[cyan wren]

The location is set by the sequence "is grabbing " script below

[frosty heron]

https://dev.epicgames.com/community/learning/tutorials/Ep0d/server-travel-unreal-engine-5-tutorial

[magic parcel]

I think you got the wrong person lol

[cyan wren]

Im sorry im not entirely sure what youre asking

[magic parcel]

he is using advanced sessions...

[cyan wren]

LMAO im sorry i thought you were responding to my thing for some reason lol

[magic parcel]

so I need to use advanced sessions? because I am using SteamCore

[frosty heron]

That node has nothing to do with advance session

Server travel is epic code

[magic parcel]

I dont see it, in 5.5.4

maybe I need to enable a plugin? UE

I will rewatch again

[frosty heron]

Ahh yeah maybe its from advance session

As in server travel is probably not exposed to bp but the plugin does it.

[magic parcel]

"https://youtu.be/VL1Ne2cOFfs?t=13" - he says in the first 10 sec

you need advanced sessions lol

So I could access it in C++ ?

[frosty heron]

100%

@magic parcel I'm at work so cant check. but try looking at game mode

[magic parcel]

Okay, I am not in a rush, would love any help you can provide because I am almost certain we are doing it right. However, we all know how UE has those little check boxes.. lol

[frosty heron]

@magic parcel https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/travelling-in-multiplayer-in-unreal-engine

Its not in game mode i lied.

Function lies in UWorld, yeah I bet its not exposed to bp.

[magic parcel]

So, we enabled the seamless travel already, and tried with the command. The command works in editor, just not on a shipping build.

I will check the C++ and see if we can get it to work from there

Appreciate the answer, seems so silly SteamCore doesnt have this

[frosty heron]

@magic parcel are you sure that the map you travelled to exist in shipping?

[magic parcel]

Yeah, I thought about that to, and yes

[frosty heron]

Make sure its included in the project settings

[frosty heron]

So what happend? Nothing happend at all or did the server travel to new map while client got booted to the main menu?

[magic parcel]

nothing happens at all

in editor, the clients transfer, and then the server transfers

[frosty heron]

Btw #multiplayer folk may be able to answer this quickly.

[magic parcel]

in shipping, we all just stare at one another and wait for the world to end

[magic parcel]

Yeah, I tried there as well, crickets 😛

[frosty heron]

I personally only travel to server with client travel. Haven't done server travel yet.

I get the theory but never do the actual thing.

[magic parcel]

Yeah, we were talking about just putting the lobby in the main wrold

and calling it good, but.... ... I dont know, that seems hacky

[frosty heron]

Hmm yeah nahh

[magic parcel]

This is for a gamejam, so hacky is fine, I guess

[frosty heron]

At some point you want to server travel anyway.

If the server needs to take everyone to a new level.

@magic parcel i take a peak at your command, did you add ?listen at the end?

Not sure if that matters though for server travel.

[magic parcel]

no, I can try that

[frosty heron]

I know it matters when hosting

[magic parcel]

ServerTravel LVL_riuthamus_00 ?listen

if, in a shipping build, do I need to do the absolute path?

or can the name just work

[frosty heron]

No clue sorry

Maybe start from Game/ ?

The internet may have some example.

Though if you have an IDE you can just check the actual implementation and we dont have to guess what happend under the hood.

It should comes with comments regarding the path.

[tawny hedge]

for which part of GAS do I need to use c++? the attributes? and can I also use it with blueprint only for a project? what are the limitations for bp?

[frosty heron]

The attribute needs to be declared in cpp

Cpp just infinitely more powerful, you can write your own script.

[tawny hedge]

ah that's all?

[frosty heron]

With blueprint you only use what someone else write for you.

So very limited option when modifying the system or accessing functions that's not exposed to bp.

[tawny hedge]

so basically I expose my stuff from cpp and use it in bp, and the attributes are just variables? Do I also write in cpp the logic behind how dmg is mitigated for example?

[frosty heron]

I do most of my stuff in cpp and blueprint to connect some nodes.

For abilities i used both.

But on the bp side its mostly just connecting a few to a dozen nodes.

GAS is a generic system, you will benefit from using it.

[dark drum]

Does anyone have any tips/suggestions for handling saved data when using streaming levels? I have a save game manager that objects can bind to so they receive global save/load requests but when a streaming level loads its normally after this has ran. (as you would expect)

I was thinking of having a save manager for each level but I'm not sure if that would be the best option. (I currently just have one on the game state)

[tough creek]

I have this blueprint I made which is a core of my projects functionality & I've used in several 100 levels, and when I attempt to migrate it, it's attempting to export a metahuman & all their assets.

The blueprint has nothing to do with metahumans & doesn't reference them anywhere AFAIK.

I'd like to try and remove this reference to the metahuman so I can export the levels, without also getting all that metahuman data coming in too.

Any suggestions how to track down this link to the metahuman given it's not coming up in reference viewer?

[dark drum]

When you go to migrate the blueprint, untick that assets you don't want. If anything is missing you'll know when you open it in the new project.

[gusty crater]

My mouse controls rotation, how can i make it so if im running left, and then turn my mouse to face the other way, but animation will play running back instead of forward? i used a bled space with x and y axis. just unsure on how to actually set x and y from that

[tough creek]

I know that's an option, but there's so many assets migrating that I don't want, and I want to be able to migrate many levels without the tedious task of unticking all the boxes.

I've discovered this dropdown in the reference viewer, I've found my migrated reference is coming from editor rather than game.

But it's got this weird purple line?

[dark drum]

If you're migrating levels as well, then anything the levels reference will be migrated as well. You can check the size map to see the bigger picture.

[astral summit]

Hi, how can I make the direction change based on the actor's rotation?
how can I make an actor move in a direction that follows its rotation?

I asked the question in different ways to make more clear what I mean.

[lofty rapids]

you want it to move "forward" ?

[dark drum]

Get the actors forward vector and multiply by how much you want it to move.

[astral summit]

For example, if its rotation is 0, it moves 30. If its rotation is 180, it moves -30

[lofty rapids]

if it's rotation is 180, it moves -30 ? are you saying it moves backward if it's rotated 180 ?

[violet bison]

get actor rotation?

[dense hinge]

Hiya. I'd like some help double checking to see why I'm not getting the info from an array of an array. I know it works, because up until the array of OffsetIndexValues, it all works and passes the info through. It's jsut the nested array doesn't work, and I can't figure out why it's not

[lofty rapids]

are you looking at the default settings, thinking it's not working ?

[dense hinge]

No, I'm also checking in PCG to see if the information passed though, but it's still showing up as all 0

[astral summit]

For some strange reason it doesn't work with Timeline

[lofty rapids]

idk whats going with the lerps, but as far as actor location, you want to get the current location, and add the forward * movement, i think

or instead of set actor location, add movement

[astral summit]

lerps simply have one for forward movement, the other for backward movement. Both are 100 degrees apart. I'm currently using the forward vector, but it doesn't do things right

[lofty rapids]

oh ok so you don't want to add thea ctor location

because your all ready using the actor location

but don't multiply the forward by the actor location

you want to multiply the forward by a float for distance

[lofty rapids]

what exactly are you trying to do with this timeline ?

looks like you want to move x by 100 ?

back or forth

but i'm not sure what the forward vector is all about tbh

[astral summit]

If I press a cube, it advances 100 degrees, and if I press it again, it returns to its original position of -100
Now the problem is that I want the cube to change based on the rotation I place it in
For example, if I press it and the rotation is 0, it advances 100 degrees
But if I press it and the rotation is 180 degrees, it advances -100 degrees

[lofty rapids]

wdym advances 100 degrees ?

it moves a certain amount ?

you usually don't move in degrees ?

[astral summit]

x by 100

[lofty rapids]

well if you plug the result of the make vector into set actor location

it will move 100

as long actor location is correct

because your adding 100 to the x, so it should move that much

your getting actor location, lerping to x+100

so just plug that in

[lofty rapids]

are you trying to turn it or move it ? its confusing because your saying degrees

but your using location

[astral summit]

The results are strange.
I will do further testing and then let you know the results

[dense hinge]

Do you happen to have any other ideas on how to get the info out? I've been trying to even Print string the info, but still nothing

[lofty rapids]

did you store the info somewhere ?

[dense hinge]

Other than that variable? All the info is derived from a DA. I'm just trying to break down the DA into a struct array so that PCG can read it

[lofty rapids]

is offset floor settings correct ?

check that the array holds the proper data

[dense hinge]

Yes, it's correct and is stored correctly

[lofty rapids]

i mean the actually variable your setting

get 0

and check a value

[kind estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gfA-QO5pA8

In this tuts leafy saves game by making interface in each actor.

so then each actor saves its own data to the BP_SaveGame

Thats quite cool, but isnt it complicating a lot?

Wouldnt it be better to just have it all centralized in the actual BP_SaveGame

so in this case the BP_SaveGame would check all the actors and save the needed data, pow pow

instead of doing all these spaghetti al carbonara

🍝

[dense hinge]

That's a no. It doesn't pass the info even if I drop it to a single variable of the struct

[lofty rapids]

so whats before that, what are you dragging from ?

i can only see the line going into the picture

[dense hinge]

Data asset to a struct variable from the PDA and then breaking the struct to get the variable from inside it

Replaced the image to show the value from the BP as well

[lofty rapids]

and building data asset is set to the one on the screen ?

[dense hinge]

Yes

[lofty rapids]

and floor criteria is empty as well ?

i think you need to load asset

[dense hinge]

Shows up empty in BP, but passes all the information. Seems the issue is jsut with this new variable.Could it be that the DA broke when upgrading from 5.5.4 to 5.6?

[dense hinge]

How do i do that?

[lofty rapids]

right click, you can async load, or load blocking

i would try load blocking see if it works

but if you can load it async, that would be better on load times

[dark drum]

Having a single save game object for all your saved data is a bad idea unless it's an extremely basic game. The moment you have different levels or even using level streaming this could result in a ton of data being loaded thats not actually needed.

[kind estuary]

🫡 got it. So for a strategy game where you have only one level, its ok?

though the ammount of crap i have to save in my game is mind blogging

[dark drum]

Possibly. Hard to say without knowing more about what you need to save.

[kind estuary]

need to save regions, armies that are in regions, players that have references to regionsowned, armiesowned.

the biggest challenge im facing and i see not tuts about it:

is how to save the actual regions when they have reference to the current armies in the regions

and the armies also have references to the regions

if i load the game these references are null

and i was told that i have to use FGuid

[dense hinge]

Neither worked, but I ended up getting the info by making a function in the PDA and outputting the info from there

[kind estuary]

and that sounds like a PITA 🍑🔥

so im trying to watch many tuts before i jump in

but it seems no tuts is complete enough

the best one so far is leafy

[dark drum]

Its sounds like you need to implement loading stages. This can allow you to do different things at different times.

Sometimes you need to create everything first (applying what data you can) and then do a second pass to sort your references out.

[kind estuary]

Nice thats exactly what i did with my last game that only required GameInstance

So i first spawned all the stuff, the units, then the tiles

then i tie them al together in a second iteration

though since this used GameInstance

I stored the UObjects by DuplicateUObject

so i didnt even need to save variables

just DuplicateObject to the GameInstance and voilá

then DuplicateObject back to the game

[dark drum]

Thats not really how it works. UObjects have an outer and when its outer is destroyed so are they. So unless your setting there outer to the game instance (which I wouldn't advise) they'll get destroyed when the level is destroyed.

The game instance shouldn't really be used for gameplay stuff.

[kind estuary]

yes thats what i did:
UArmyObj* SavedArmy = DuplicateObject<UArmyObj>(Original, GameInstance);

saving...

UArmyObj* Army = DuplicateObject<UArmyObj>(ArmyData, CampaignMapManager);

loading...

this doesnt require all the manual stuff of copying every single variable

you just duplicate the object to the gameinstance

ta da

[surreal peak]

Wouldn't it be enough to just change the outer?

[kind estuary]

😵‍💫 maybe

[dark drum]

Yea if you were using c++ you could just change the outer. (not possible in BP :/ )

Does anyone know if theres a call back for when a streamed level is about to be unloaded?

Theres the 'OnLevelUnloaded' on the streaming level object but that calls after its already unloaded.

[frosty heron]

Dunnoe if this help but breakpoint the event and see the call stacks.

See if theres something you can use beforehand.

Hopefully the header file come with delegates that you need though, have you skim through it?

[dusky hemlock]

I have a question regarding seamless travel or data persistence in particular. The doc for seamless travel says "By default, these actors will persist automatically: [...] - All PlayerControllers (Server only) [...]", but from my experience that is simply not the case.
I have the "net.AllowPIESeamlessTravel" set to true, the game mode has "Uses Seamless Travel" enabled and I use the console command ServerTravel to travel to the map I'm currently in for testing purposes. However when I compare the saved player controller of my game instance to the "persisted" player controller they are not the same.
Is there anything else I need to do to have the player controller persist?

[dark drum]

It looks like it seems hide the level before unloading so I think i'll be able to use the 'OnLevelHidden'.

[frosty heron]

#multiplayer

[dusky hemlock]

well, it's not multiplayer related, I am not using sessions or anything

[surreal peak]

Seamless Travel is a multiplayer concept

It's triggered as part of a Server Travel.

And for your PlayerController question: It gives you the chance in the GameMode to move data from the old to the new one when seamless traveling. Via OnSwapPlayerControllers. It will, however, keep the old PlayerController if the class is the same on both GameModes.

[sick sky]

the PCs are copied, but not the same exact UObject address

see the player controll duplicate functions

[surreal peak]

Also please don't cache Actors in the GameInstance. The GameInstance isn't meant to hold references to them.

[dusky hemlock]

I know, that was only to check that the player controller is not the same after seamless travel

[hollow lagoon]

Hello smart people! I'm trying to calculate the difference in yaw rotation between two points to get a value between 0-1, if the yaw rotation is identical it'll return 1 and if they're opposite itll return 0, anyone know a bit about vector maths that could help me out?

[surreal peak]

Two points form one direction. You'd need a second direction to actually get an angle.

[sick sky]

dot product

[surreal peak]

If you take a piece of paper and draw two dots on it, where would you get the angle from? Like the angle to what exactly?

[hollow lagoon]

Hi, each point has a rotator attribute stored inside, I'm doing pcg stuff. Sorry, shouldve said that

[sick sky]

get the 2 rotations (here yaw only) as vectors (get direction from rotation)
then use dot product
you will get a number between -1 and 1 iirc

[surreal peak]

Something like that, yeah

[sick sky]

this is the same logic than checking if 2 actors are facing each other (but here you use the forward vector directly)

[astral summit]

I fixed it, I had to multiply 100 x with the forward at the beginning of the process, not the end

[hollow lagoon]

ok! I'll give it a go. I think I might get stuck on getting a direction from rotation, idk if PCG has a node like that

I'll give it a go tho

[sick sky]

in BP i dont know

[surreal peak]

If you need 1 to 0 instead of 1 to -1, then you can add one to the result and multiply it by 0.5

[dusky hemlock]

Thanks for the answers, I will see what I can do with that new found knowledge

[sick sky]

its funny, some say multiply to 0.5, ill say divide by 2 😆

[surreal peak]

Divide is more expensive.

[sick sky]

i guess multiply is a reflex to avoid checking for 0

[sick sky]

well thats a fun fact i didnt know about

[surreal peak]

The more you know.

[sick sky]

isnt a surprise tho

[zinc flicker]

I see thanks a lot, yeah i saw lot of nice Object Pooling FAB products but i think i try first the regular blueprint tutorials see how much performance i get from that.

The only thing i see often is that the blueprint tutorials only spawn the whole PILE like 1000 objects all at one, but the FAB ones offer sometimes delayed ones like every 0.1 sec

Not sure which one is better because if you kill 50 monster at the same time i wonder if that lags for killing them or if its more like they just teleport away.

[lofty rapids]

Lets say there is a landscape sort of hill, and you want to place a mesh on that hill, how would i go about flattening the landscape a bit to not clip the landscape

i'd like to do a line trace, hit the landscape, and lower it to a different z basically

i know i can manually drop it down to fix the issue, but i was hoping to get an automated solution to making it easier to make a map

i place these at runtime, so doing it manually is actually a pain in the ass

[faint pasture]

Can't do it at runtime AFAIK, at least not easily

[lofty rapids]

thats a bummer

[faint pasture]

You can maybe do some stuff in the landscape shader to move the verts visually

[lofty rapids]

interesting, i have worked with shader before, but i'm not that good with it yet

i have not worked with shader in unreal yet

[agile mural]

Hi ! Anyone have any knowledge about asymetrical gameplay (vr/computer on the same game instance) ?

[agile moss]

help, how to make the cast not fail :/

just need to store a variable that can be accessed at all times

I just described an instance

just realised I can only have 1 game instance, which makes sense now

[lofty rapids]

edit project settings, search for game instance

pick your game instance class

[fresh trellis]

hey guys! could any of you please help me with repeats in blueprint with delays? I've been stuck on the same snag for ~ 4hrs

[lofty rapids]

wdym "repeats" ?

[fresh trellis]

so imagine: In python, I would use a for i in range loop and then at in a wait command in the loop body

but because of blueprint's nature (from what I understand), the loop executes immediately, meaning that delays don't really work inside a for loop

for me, I want to play an animation in a widget and then, after the animation is over, I remove the widget from the viewport.

intially, I had:
PlayAnim -> Delay 30s -> Get IsValid (WB_Vig) -> Branch
If True:
Remove from parent

but the thing is that, there is a certain variable (OOB) that I want to control it, so it OOB is true, then the loop continues, but if it is false, the loop instantly breaks

for this reason, I couldn't use the delay 30, so I added in a branch at the end of the playanim event to check if true and then made it recursive

then I added a counter and a delay inside the thing itself

and if the counter was above 30, nothing would happen

breaking the event

then, it insta-deleted the widget

I have the same problem with another one

[lofty rapids]

maybe this is usefull

insteady of waiting for a delay amount

fire an event when it's finished

i don't know how that will help the loop situation

[lofty rapids]

and you want to do this inside a loop ?

[fresh trellis]

I mean like I want to loop the animation 30 times and then stop OR, if the variable is set to false in the Middle of the animation loop, to cancel the loop

[lofty rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vag2lhosFD8

[fresh trellis]

Would this work in ue5?

[lofty rapids]

sounds like a timer or tick thing to me

[fresh trellis]

Also I'm sorry guys I'm a solo dev who just started ue a few days ago and I'm 15

[stone turret]

Hello Everyone guys i am a game dev from India and I am trying to make my zombie, survival horror, FPS game in UE5. I am looking for a experienced programmer to please join me in collaboration.

I will be putting this game up for consideration for Epic Mega Grants

[lofty rapids]

loops are "blocking"

[lofty rapids]

probably

your basically making a new for loop

[fresh trellis]

Tysm

I mean I have to go to bed now but I'll check it out tmrw

[unborn moss]

why the cape of this character is going through the body? How do I fix it?
https://www.fab.com/listings/0641220a-cff6-4833-aaab-52eb1e4b3ec5

there is a cape skeleton and also the cape is together with the character skeleton

i dont find anything related to collision

[unborn moss]

oh, I think I just needed to change the physics asset

[lofty rapids]

why when i run this a bunch of times it only deletes the last one ?

[sage jungle]

where you called this event? in this event you delete widget reference not list reference

[lofty rapids]

i tried all three inputs

[sage jungle]

what do you want to do exactly

[lofty rapids]

i want to show a message and then remove the message after awhile

it shows the message fine

but it's only ever getting the last ones references

[lofty rapids]

something here i'm not understanding with timer

is it pulling fresh from the input when it runs ?

[sage jungle]

the delay event capture inputs before start i think
it's probably a lambda function in c++

[lofty rapids]

i'm fairly new to latency and what that even means

i don't use delay very often but for this it would be perfect

[frosty heron]

By the time the delay is done your reference would be pointing to the last one.

[lofty rapids]

yes

that is what is happening

[frosty heron]

You should handle deleting in the msg widget it self.

[lofty rapids]

ok

[frosty heron]

So each instance handle its deletion and can run the timer indepedently.

[lofty rapids]

so on construct

[sage jungle]

yes is better

[frosty heron]

U can just make an event with param.

And call that event as soon as you construct the widget　, up to you.

[lofty rapids]

ok, that makes sense i'll try it

[lofty rapids]

works perfect, thanks

i'm basically replacing the print string with a rich text box

[sharp ferry]

hi. how can i copy my posterize volume cube into another level?

[kind estuary]

im trying to load game from a save game, but cant seem to be able to Respawn actors. So the SaveGame class doesnt have Spawn Actor, only the GameInstance, so im using the GameInstance since its also being used to load data, but it doesnt work. Actors are not being respawned there. So i figured it must be because GameInstance doesnt have world. So what other class should i use to respawn my reloaded actors. Save Load game is confusing AF.

ok chatgpt is saying to use the controller or the gamemode?

[frosty heron]

You are still using chat gpt

Can you stop saying chat gpt says

Presistent (save game and GI) object exist outside the world.

You can handle spawning with an actor that is placed to the world.

[kind estuary]

🫡 got it

[steep sonnet]

what could be the reason for the "Is not an UClass" error? I was trying to make a system following a tutorial where if you overlap an instanced foliage it would play a sound which works, then i wanted to make it so the sound volume is impacted by the foliage scale (didn't know how else to do it) which is where the Get Actor Of Class, Get Comp by Class and Get World Scale comes in but that leads to the error

and this foliage is a custom class by the way

[spark steppe]

get foliage sounds didn't return anything

[formal umbra]

I'm moving a character with SetActorLocation for specific reasons, but the movement animations won't trigger. I calculated the characters velocity while moving and set it to be the MovementComponent's velocity but it's still not working. Any ideas? I'm using the Manny character and animeBP. The printed ground velocity also shows the character moving normally.

[hasty merlin]

is there a way i can set one part of the value0 and value1 to ahve a gameplay tag? they are a struct requiring gameplay tags and itemID (name). i onyl want to set the gameplay tag for each slot sot aht it cant be changed later

is this what im looking for?

the make node that is

[cyan wren]

How can i make an event node have a five second delay before it can activate again? I have a crate with an event hit node but it updates way too frequently, do i just create a tive variable connected to a branch? Or is there a specific node

[frosty heron]

A simple boolean check.

If bActive = false do nothing

If bActive -> set bActive to false, delay X seconds-> set bActive to true again.

[cyan wren]

Gracias

[uneven crest]

How can I set the camera thats in another actor as the viewport

[frosty heron]

Get a reference of the target actor

Your controller will blend into the target actor active camera.

For the target you need to plugin your player controller.

[uneven crest]

I know thats messed up what i have

i didnt mean to put the primary weapon as the target

but im not able to drag the iron sight cam into the new view target

[frosty heron]

Because iron sight cam is not an actor, its a camera component.

[frosty heron]

.

[uneven crest]

Im ngl, im lost

[frosty heron]

Where do primary weapon come from?

[uneven crest]

in the character, i spawned it

[frosty heron]

Show the whole bp, uncropped

[frosty heron]

And your set view with target blend have you updated it to target your controller?

[uneven crest]

Yes its in the controller

And then i have a camera within the weapon blueprint

[frosty heron]

Make sure that camera is active and if theres any other camera in the same bp, unavtivate it.

Other than that, no clue. Hard w.o seeing more info / pic.

Works for me but I dont use that node anymore.

[uneven crest]

I figured it ot

out

thank you tho

[steel shadow]

Does 'get overlapping actors' only return actors colliding with the faces of a static mesh (or maybe the verts)?

[frosty heron]

You are not using complex collision are you?

[steel shadow]

shouldn't matter should it? complex collision just makes the collision conform better to the faces

[frosty heron]

In general static meshes uses simple collisions, so I am wondering why you think it overlap with the faces / vertices.

Collision can be generated per poly with complex collision but that's not how collision should be for general meshes.

https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/fbx-static-mesh-pipeline-in-unreal-engine#collision

The faces and vertices matter not. Again, with complex collision you can generate per poly but by default your meshes doesn't have any collision. You need to create simple collisions prefixed with UCX. Its these collider that will be your collision.

[little agate]

it will be disaster if we use faces for collision

[frosty heron]

It does matter a lot yeah. They are way more expensive , you shouldn't use it for anything that doesn't need down the grain accurate collision.

[steel shadow]

mate ur completely missing the point of what i originally asked

just like u did yesterday when i asked about some optimisation stuff and you said i shouldt use tick when i didnt even mention tick lol

[frosty heron]

Don't know what ur. Talking about

[steel shadow]

but yeah i should have phrased it better, i meant the faces of the collision rather than the phases of the mesh

[frosty heron]

Clearly agitated though so I'm gonna leave you alone.

[little agate]

hey, get back to work!!

[frosty heron]

I am at work 🤣

Just not unreal work

Bored to death at the office

[steel shadow]

I hope you didn't take that as more aggressive than it was. I appreciate you trying to help.

[hasty merlin]

is there a way to set an element of a map? i need to find the key, check the gameplay tag belonging to it and then set the ItemID to taht map key. i dont know how to set the ItemID

[surreal peak]

Ah, yeah, nested Map/Struct stuff can be annoying. For Arrays there is a Get Ref node that can be combined with a SetMembersInStruct node.

For Maps you probably have to be a bit more "manual". If you find the matching element, you'll most likely have to call Add on the Map again with the same key but new value.

[hasty merlin]

while doing some research (took a while) i found that the Add node can both add a new key and element to the map as well as simply update the element in the said key

now does remove work the same way?

[surreal peak]

The reason why this is so annoying to deal with is that Blueprints do a lot of stuff by copy. So if you start calling SetMembersInStruct on that Map Value pin of the For Loop, you actually just modify a copy. That's significantly easier in C++. I feel like one should PR some better Map and Array tools.

[hasty merlin]

so i would need to get ref first then update that?

[surreal peak]

Correct. There is no update node otherwise. In C++ you could get the element by key as a ref or pointer and modifying it will modify the underlying Map element. BPs doesn't have that.

At least not for Maps iirc

[surreal peak]

Na there should be a remove node

But you shouldn't remove during a for loop unless you loop backwards over it.

At least when talking about arrays. Idk what that for loop for maps is doing internally

[hasty merlin]

im using the loop simply to find out if there is a matching slotID

[surreal peak]

Yeah just answering the remove question

[hasty merlin]

so tehres a specific remove node?

[surreal peak]

I'm not sure if you can get a ref of a Map element in Blueprints

[hasty merlin]

no i cannot

the only thing id need ot remove is the itemID from the slot not the entire slto or the gameplayteg the slot has

[surreal peak]

You'd probably need to get the element, which is then a copy, save it to some local variable, alter it with the SetMembersInStruct node, and then call add on the Map with the same key, passing in the local variable

[hasty merlin]

so should i just add and set the itemID to be None?

[surreal peak]

If you don't want to resize the map and fully remove the element, then yes.

If you want to fully remove it then you'd, well, remove the element with a remove node

[hasty merlin]

im trying to make it so that in my WeaponSlotMelee there is a GPTag for item.type.weapon.melee and the itemID. the GPTag is to make sure that the item going into the slot matches the tag and if not it cant go there

[charred granite]

Has anyone managed to use PCG for overgrowth recently in UE 5.5? All the tutorials I seem to find are outdated and the nodes aren't applicable or don't exist anymore.. would love to add some overgrowth in my scene.

I've also tried the feedback from the video comments but no succes.

https://youtu.be/8seJpPS2fMc?si=u9Dh0wCc9c06ikSS

[pale shore]

How to detect corners on any static mesh? regardless its orientation. I want to corner location of static mesh component, like top 4 corners and bottom 4 corners.

[shut magnet]

anyone can help me implement a way to have spawning transform is level and instances dependent. what i mean is lets say i have a interactactor in level 1 in x1 location, right now, in the pictures i hardcoded the spawning value to x1 location. what i want is the spawning actor location will always be spawn in front of the interactactor. riht now the problem is if i have another instance of interactactor in the same level in x2, this logic become wrong instantly as we "hardcoded"the location. same if we add this interactactor instance in another level since the value is hardcoded in level 1 and not level 2

here the current way i did it:
the first image is using local transform and use transform location and transform rotation to convert from local to world space (this one tbf i copy what ChatGPT did because i have no idea how to do this)

the second image is the same but only the rotation convert to local to world space..
i just multiply from the actor forward vector and multiply is by 20 so it be in front.

i just want on every instance of my interactoractor the thing i ant to spawn will always spawn in front of it

idk if that make sense

[wary topaz]

Hello, does anyone know why this add SKM component node isn't actually attaching the SKMs? I've tried adding the generated components to a variable and it does populate, however it has a 'TRASH' prefix, i'm not sure how to debug this.

[dark drum]

The component has been garbage collected. It can happen when spawning components dynamically. I would recommend clearing the array you're storing them in before you generate them. Sometimes it can regenerate the actor and call the construction script resulting in lingering data.

[wary topaz]

Thank you, It was as easy as adding the function to the false path 😅

[sharp ferry]

i dont undertstand why my character keep falling down the floor

the collision on the mesh are the same as the first level mesh and there it works

[grave relic]

Hey I need some help with some BP logic. So I have this weapon that the player can pick up(so the logic is contained in the weapon). And I want it so when the player has the weapon equiped, and they hold right click a target area on the floor goes out in the players direction they are looking. And if they let go of right click it comes back to the player. And if the player presses left click. Then something happens where the target area is. So what I need help with is: How can I have a target thing come out in the players looking direction, and align it with the floor. Thank you 🙂

[steady night]

Hmm how can i make the "ground speed" negative if im running away from my chars rotation "direction" ?

[zealous moth]

@edgy ingot dunno where Auther went, but anyways, I figured out the usecase of datatables vs data assets: patching.
If you want to patch new content, packaging a data asset ref in a .pak and mounting it works whereas datatables don't work at all.
Otherwise, in a ready-made game, neither have any impacts; I would argue that datatables are easier to work with

[dark drum]

What (in your opinion) makes data tables easier to work with? I'm the opposite and prefer data assets.

[mental trellis]

The inate ability to import data from spreadsheets is nice.

[zealous moth]

This ^

I can easily export, re-sort, work with it in excel and obtain all sorts of metadata (avg, median, count, etc)

[mental trellis]

Of course people write stuff to do that with data assets too, but it's not there by default.

[dark drum]

I could see why some people would like that. I'm not a fan though, unless the data table only contains text and numbers you'd have to select all your assets in the editor anyway.

[mental trellis]

You can export and import them via text as well.

[icy jacinth]

BPs don't seem to allow Map variables to plug into a For Each node. What's the best workaround for this?

[sick sky]

Get keys array and loop it

And use find node to get the value

[lofty rapids]

you can get values, and loop that as well

[icy jacinth]

Perfect - thank you!

[willow topaz]

I can't seem to find any documentation on how to get the position of a widget if it is organized using the grid layout.

Essentially I have:

Grid--
---Button
---Button

Lets say I want to find out where a button is in pixels on the widget, is there any way to actually do so?

I suppose I can manually calculate it using the grid specifications and the render resolution of the widget....

[grand surge]

is there a guy who bought relaistic assault rigle pack?

https://www.fab.com/listings/05dbb53b-d75f-4a08-bcc2-fc02de484866

i need help

[lucid fulcrum]

So... any reason why the dummy model does this when ragdolling?

[unique timber]

seems something adds the velocity or force to it

[surreal peak]

If you need help with it you should ask the creator for support.

[lucid fulcrum]

checked that, I just think the PA is just wonky? even the lyra ragdoll does that

[unique timber]

i didnt had anything like that it seems like first force is consistant and doesnt change - so your ragdoll keep moving

[chilly thicket]

hi i really need some help with storing info across levels would anyone mind helping please ping or msg me! thank you

[lofty rapids]

single player or multiplayer ?

[chilly thicket]

single, its just confilcting with my current code

[lofty rapids]

you can save stuff in a save game to persist across levels, or you can use the game instance

the game instance is pretty much the only that persists between levels tbh

it's either that or save to a file

[chilly thicket]

i just dont know how to set it up and implement it in my code

[lofty rapids]

open the content browser

right click and create new blueprint

search for game instance

and create an empty GI

[chilly thicket]

u available for a call? i have the instance i just need to find a play to call it

im pretty sure its gonna be simple im just lost atm

[lofty rapids]

so you created the game instance ?

now go into your project settings, and set the game instance class

[chilly thicket]

done all that

[lofty rapids]

ok so do you have any variables on the game instance ?

[chilly thicket]

i do

im pretty sure

[lofty rapids]

ok so wherever you want to access them from

in the bp

right click and get game instance

then cast to your bp game instance

[chilly thicket]

where in my code tho? because i do what i think it is and im still getting the errors i kinda need someone to look at it.

[lofty rapids]

just show what you think it is with a screenshot

[chilly thicket]

yes do i put it in my player controller or game state or...

[lofty rapids]

this is what you should be doing, then getting/setting the variable from that reference

[chilly thicket]

is it off begin play?

[lofty rapids]

i can't guess you should show a screenshot of how you did it

the image i showed, is how you get the game instance

then you set the variables to save them across levels

the save game is a bit more complicated, but also an option

[chilly thicket]

see im not sure what to show you because i tried implementing this in multiple different places but it didnt work so i have removed it. but i tried in my controller and game state

[graceful sage]

just show what you have currently?

[chilly thicket]

show what my player controller, game state, player character, the intance its self? this is a large part of my question

[faint pasture]

collision

show the physics asset for the skelmesh

[lofty rapids]

so your trying to access the game instance, so show that

[graceful sage]

show where you're trying to access to GI

[lofty rapids]

if you do it correctly, it will persist across levels

[lucid fulcrum]

its the standard TPP mesh/PA that UE5 comes with.

[graceful sage]

Also you said you have errors would show that

[faint pasture]

show the physics asset

[chilly thicket]

my gi with variable

[faint pasture]

it's either 2 bones in the physics asset running into each other, or collision between the skelmesh and something else in the character.

It's the same problem as prop surfing

[chilly thicket]

my errors, these errors only exist in my lvl2, not 1

[faint pasture]

your gamestate is trying to get at hud elements that aren't there

[lucid fulcrum]

@faint pasture

[faint pasture]

pelvis vs lower chest

collision should be disabled between each ADJACENT pair, but it looks like pelvis vs lower chest is colliding

anyway the problem is in the spine bones

make sure the only overlaps are between adjacent bones

[chilly thicket]

yes im trying to get them there

[faint pasture]

well they aren't around

fix that

[chilly thicket]

lmfao

they are on myt lvl 1

[lucid fulcrum]

noted, ill keep that in mind

thanks

[faint pasture]

Main Hud Ref and PlayerRef are unset in your level 2 for some reason. That's the root of the problem

[faint pasture]

That's basically a shit physics asset so just needs some cleanup to be worth ragdolling

[lucid fulcrum]

lyra mesh has the same issue too

though that gets uh.. cubed away to hide it

[chilly thicket]

ok i have reduced my error by putting this in the lvl2 bp and current errors attached as well

[faint pasture]

why do you have different game states per level

that's silly

[mossy fern]

Does anyone know this issue

LogHttpListener: Error: HttpListener unable to bind to 127.0.0.1:20026

[faint pasture]

What about the game is fundamentally different about level 2 vs level 1?

[mossy fern]

It's my first time encountering it

[mental trellis]

Firewall issue? Port already in use (2 editors open?)

[mossy fern]

Have no clue

One editor open only

[chilly thicket]

i dont or atleast i shouldnt in my project setting is says there in the same game state, and absolutley nothing my worst case senario fix is to move lvl 2 to level one but i know there is a fix

[mossy fern]

@mental trellis sorry for the ping but do you think you can help me haha

[faint pasture]

The fix is to not do things in a silly way. Just have YourGameState and YourGamePawn and YourGameMode, you don't need to make new ones per level

any fundamental gameplay differences between levels will be set up in the actual level.

Mario wouldn't have GameState1-1 and GameState1-2, it'd just have MarioGameState

[chilly thicket]

i dont see anything in my code to indicate they are different in each level, to my understanding my state, and pawn and mode are the same between the levels

i have 1 state 1 pawn and 1 mode

[faint pasture]

is your gamemode coming from a level override or set at the project level?

[chilly thicket]

aside from my main menu

[faint pasture]

the level can override the gamemode which is what says which gamestate and pawn and such to use

make sure it's not overridden in the level and is set in Maps and Modes in project settings

[mental trellis]

Those are really your 2 options. 😦

Port is in use or your firewall is blocking it.

[chilly thicket]

does this look correct?

[faint pasture]

why are all your classes prefixed with L1

CaveGameState and CavePlayerController are what they should be

[chilly thicket]

i was only gonan have one level intially but i added the second, the l1 can be deleted but its for lvl1 and 2

[mossy fern]

Know how I can change my port

Or the firewall thing

[mental trellis]

Nope

[mossy fern]

Well still thanks

[chilly thicket]

should i remove the overrides and just let the default handle it?

[faint pasture]

I'd remove the overrides yeah. The only override you should have is for the main menu map

[mental trellis]

I'm not sure why you'd have any overrides there. They all seem like it's very map specific.

i.e. set them in the worldsettings of the map.

[devout yarrow]

I found a plugin that said it works in 5.3, but should work in others. It kinda "works" in 5.5.4, but only in the current session. If I close UE and reload, it always does this to my nodes and i have to remake it

when I reload the engine, this is in the log

LogPluginManager: Mounting Project plugin Spout2
LogConfig: Branch 'Spout2' had been unloaded. Reloading on-demand took 0.11ms

LogLinker: Warning: [AssetLog] W:\UnrealProjects\TerrainGenTest\Content\ThirdPerson\Blueprints\BP_ThirdPersonCharacter.uasset: VerifyImport: Failed to find script package for import object 'Package /Script/Spout2'

LogLinker: Warning: Unable to load SpoutSender_GEN_VARIABLE with outer BlueprintGeneratedClass /Game/ThirdPerson/Blueprints/BP_ThirdPersonCharacter.BP_ThirdPersonCharacter_C because its class (SpoutSender) does not exist

LogLinker: Warning: Unable to load SpoutReceiver_GEN_VARIABLE with outer BlueprintGeneratedClass /Game/ThirdPerson/Blueprints/BP_ThirdPersonCharacter.BP_ThirdPersonCharacter_C because its class (SpoutReceiver) does not exist

idk what to dooo

https://github.com/ryanwang0521/UE5-Spout2

thats the plugin

am i posting in the right place?

[chilly thicket]

ok so i removed them and changed things around, i no longer get the errors but, in lvl 1 the PC completes 3 objectives and upon entering lvl2 you restart to the first objective. This snippet is in my lvl2 bp

[faint pasture]

I have no idea what your objective setup should be

[lofty rapids]

whats wrong with game instance ?

its the best place for persistent information

across levels

or a save game ig

[chilly thicket]

im not sure but its not saving my obj-data

[lofty rapids]

well your not using game instance

your using game state, and your casting twice btw

its the same both times it looks like

but you won't get the get game state

that resets with a new level

you can copy the variables you need to the GI

[faint pasture]

zombie show where you are saving progress

show the representation of progress

at this point I don't even know what your actual problem is here. Do you want a saved record of what was done in which level? Or do you just want to move to the next level once an individual level is completed

[chilly thicket]

just caught that and i changed ti to my instance but the problem is still there.

[lofty rapids]

before you travel to the next level

save your info in the game instance

[faint pasture]

or a savegame

[lofty rapids]

or a savegame

[faint pasture]

save it into something

[chilly thicket]

saved record, so you complete the 3 objs then when you get to lvl 2 you lose the obj progress

[lofty rapids]

or switch your gets to the game instance gets

[faint pasture]

if obj progress is a property of gamestate you'd lose it anyway

which sounds correct

do you want to lose the progress or not? You haven't asked a question, you're just stating things that either are happening or you want to happen, can't tell lol

[lofty rapids]

^

[chilly thicket]

my question is how do i save it

[faint pasture]

with a save game or game instance

[chilly thicket]

its not supposed to reset

[faint pasture]

I'd say save game since you presumably don't want it to reset when you close the game

[lofty rapids]

it technically is supposed to reset

because of where you stored it

[chilly thicket]

i dont want it to reset lol

[faint pasture]

ok then do what people have said

put the progress in a save game

make a save game class and give it variables representing whatever you want

what is this progress? Is it keys collected, things killed, what

This will help. Type out what the data should look like for someone entering level 3

[chilly thicket]

lvl1 is just hit boxes walked thru its 3 different ones, then in lvl 2 its a labrinth and you have 4 relics to colect before you can leave

[lofty rapids]

what you do is store the variables on the game instance, then when you want to use them use the ones on the game instance

so in your code nothing changes

you goto next level and it's pulling from the game instance

so it's automatically up to date

or do a save game, either way work

the issue with a save game, you need to save and load it for each level

[faint pasture]

Later on, do you care about the progress within the level or just that the level was completed?

if the data per level is different that's WAY more difficult to handle then just saving the fact that the level was completed

[chilly thicket]

no, the game ends after lvl2 and the progress for lvl1 is really just to keep you on the right path in finding a cave entrance. walk to this walk to that ect

[faint pasture]

What should happen if you exit the game halfway through lvl 1?

and relaunch?

[chilly thicket]

youd restart entirely the game is pretty short, lvl2 is the majority of the game

[faint pasture]

ok what about lvl 2 then

I'm halfway though the labyrinth and alt f4

what should I see when I relaunch

[chilly thicket]

youd restart

from lvl1

[faint pasture]

ok then you really just need 2 bools in your save game lol

hell 1 would do it

bHasClearedLevelOne

[faint pasture]

?

then why the hell do you need to save anything?

[chilly thicket]

basically when you start lvl2 it resets the objs that are on lvl 1, for instance walk here, walk there walk to the cave, but when you enter the cave instead of telling you find the relic is tells you to walk here.

obj 1-2-3 then enter cave and instead of being on 4 your back on obj 1

[faint pasture]

It's starting to sound like you don't need to save anything ever

[chilly thicket]

maybe i just need my obj not to reset at the start of lvl2

[faint pasture]

Why would it matter? If you're at lvl 2 then you got all the relics

the fact that you're on lvl 2 is enough

is there any way to get to lvl 2 without all the relics

[chilly thicket]

no, the all the relics are on lvl 2

[faint pasture]

ok write out a walkthrough, starting from main menu, and explaining when a new level loads

Main menu, click on button and load level 1
level 1, do xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, load level 2

etc

[chilly thicket]

maybe this is better, so on the right hand side IDNAME trail, ToCave, and Entercave are on lvl1. FindWhiskey is in lvl2, th issue is at the start of lvl 2 it resets to IDNAME trail. so you cant actually complete the objective findwhisky

[lofty rapids]

so do you have this set up so you can change current OBJ ?

and this is basically your progress ?

or i see your array of objectives

ya i would store that on the game instance

[chilly thicket]

i do have this but when i tried to force set it in lvl2 thats wherw i was getting my errors

[chilly thicket]

i have the array as a variable in my instance already

[lofty rapids]

it's really simple tbh, if you know what data you want to store that is

[lofty rapids]

ok but your not using it

your using the one thats local to the other bp

you want to use the one in the game instance

[chilly thicket]

do i use it in my lvl2 bp or in my controller or should it just already know?

this is in my lvl2 bp

[lofty rapids]

think about this... if you getting from the current bp it gets destroyed when the level ends, so when you try to get it in level 2 it's back to default... if you get it from game instance then it doesn't matter, when your in level 2 you'll get it from game instance like in level 1, or in level 100

and the variable will be the one in the instance that you changed

it's really simple to do as well, you just replace the variable

[lofty rapids]

ok so you have the game instance

[lofty rapids]

you don't need anything in the lvl2

[lofty rapids]

what bp is this ?

[chilly thicket]

lvl2 bp

[lofty rapids]

wtf

[graceful sage]

are you saying in a level bp?

[lofty rapids]

i thought the status was in lvl1 ?

is this just something you tried ?

[chilly thicket]

the status of the objectives? is in my gamestate

[lofty rapids]

ok so what does that look like

is there an array ?

[faint pasture]

in level 2, why do you care about the status of the lvl 1 objectives at all? You did them, that's how you got to level 2

your objectives should be defined within the level btw, not hard coded into game state but that's another point entirely

[lofty rapids]

repeating stuff is useless, you can scroll up if you want to know what to do

it's really simple

and what i showed you an hour ago is what you can use

thats literally all you need, drag out of the cast and get the variable

use this instead of the local variable

[chilly thicket]

this is all my set obj bp in my gamestate

[lofty rapids]

replace the two objective variables with variables from your GI

it will solve all your problems

[chilly thicket]

in which function?

[lofty rapids]

do you not see the object arrays ? did you code this ?

did you use a tutorial ?

your using an array called objectives

the problem your having is it's on the game state this is local

do you know about variables ?

you may need to learn some stuff before you do this

[chilly thicket]

i did use a tutorial, i didnt know if you ment the local variables or the arrays

[lofty rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg_DtpnZVlo

doesn't show much lol

[chilly thicket]

i see so is the core issue that my objective data is stored in my game instance?

[lofty rapids]

are you reading what i write ?

[lofty rapids]

^

[lofty rapids]

your data isn't stored on the game instance