blueprint

[idle moat]

I have started creating a jump mechanic for my character but I want my jump canceled if I charge it for too long. I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to blueprints so it's probably something simple. Help would be great!

[toxic copper]

i have a platform set to change the overlapping actor's collision response to block when these two boxes overlap, and it sets it back to overlap once they stop overlapping. I've noticed that while most of the time it successfully blocks, sometimes the character just falls right through it. I'm guessing whats happening is that because both boxes are very thin, it sometimes doesnt register that the overlap took place because it ended almost immediately after

is there a way to make it more consistent without increasing the size of either box?

[tulip basin]

is there a good way to handle multi-dimensional arrays? BP's don't seem to have native support for them out of the box, and I don't really want to write a C++ library for a rough prototype if I can avoid it

[versed hornet]

you'd simply have to update the charge, then when it hits a threshhold you activate a bool which states that the jump was cancelled. So when the jump action happens, it checks the bool and then does nothing

[cerulean mango]

hi I would like to know how to trigger an event of a child class in a master class, to be clearer I have a BP_EnemyMaster which manages the death system for my enemies but there is a mob in particular that I would like that explodes when he dies, I would therefore like in my logic of death of my master that this enemies and not the others trigger the explode event

[versed hornet]

https://dev.epicgames.com/community/learning/tutorials/oPmx/unreal-engine-arrays-unreal-s-tarray-multi-dimensional-and-2d-arrays
this video explains how to do it in BP in the last part

a little complicated but should work

[versed sun]

You have a Master Class with a Death function
you want one child to do its Death function differently ?

[versed hornet]

In BP graph of the child add the parent event, like this. Then add your explode code. right click on the node and select "add call to parent function" and put it where you want, this code will then execute the code from the parent function but also the added functionality of the child.

[tulip basin]

looks like I'm writing a c++ library

[versed sun]

the Child will print :
You Died
Also Explode

[cerulean mango]

@versed sun @versed hornet Thanks ! Everything works perfectly !

[versed hornet]

beautiful

[versed sun]

Also , if it is a Function , you can override it here

[cerulean mango]

Oh nice that's good to know

Btw can you call your parent: Death event after your print ?

[tepid raft]

question how would i do this?

[versed sun]

yup

[cerulean mango]

@versed sun In your exemple it would be : Event Death -> Print -> Parent Death

Oh okkk thanks !

[versed sun]

this is also handy , you can open up you Parent code

[thin panther]

Well you know when the door has opened, because you've got the correct code, been through the branch, and finished the timeline.
So you don't want to close the door until it's been opened, you'll just ignore all requests to close it

[tepid raft]

ah ok

thanks

[cerulean mango]

@versed sun Oh so cool , because the last node of my Parent death is a destroy actor, so i can put my explosion before the destroy actor that way right ?

[versed sun]

yes , unless the Explosion takes time to finish, then you would want to Expand the Parent code, and modify it somehow to not destroy until Explosion is done

[patent bane]

I have what I think is a typical situation in my anim graph, but im unfamiliar with how to resolve it. In the context of a Boxing game, I have a state machine with the states Idle, blocking, dodging. each state contains a blendspace. Now, i created new blendspaces, 1 BS for each punch type. i'd like to blend the pose from the state machine with the punching pose. the nodes i found all require a weight float to specify the blend amount. I was thinking to set it to 1 when punching, and 0 when not punching. But I don't know how to handle the detection that the punching animation is done. that punch is a blendspace.

[cerulean mango]

@versed sun I don't have the expand node on this event do i have to check something in the master ?

[versed sun]

Im not sure on the rules on when you can expand, sometimes its not there

but you can always copy/paste the parents code

[cerulean mango]

@versed sun Looks like the destroy actor was the problem there ! But it works rn thanks for your help 🙂

[white oxide]

I'm trying to line trace by channel with the mouse in order to draw to the screen, however it appears to not want to draw. Any thoughts?

[versed sun]

well.... 0 != 1 , so branch will be False

[celest oar]

is there any way to hide folliage in options for performance reasons?

in a shipped build

[versed sun]

I think Start would be Camera Location
End would be the World Location of the Convert Mouse Loc node

but , that would appear to not draw because it is in the center of your vision

[remote meteor]

you could make a setting that adjusts the FolliageQuality in the GameUserSettings

[maiden wadi]

There already is one. 😄

[vivid quarry]

Is there any possible reason that my game might be eating an input when I am playing it off of the editor, but not when I am playing it off the Blueprint screen?

Everything seems to behave if I export it as an exe so it's all good, just an odd quirk I noticed

[remote meteor]

well the ui that controls it 😆

[maiden wadi]

The editor can have inputs as well. It depends on the key.

[white oxide]

Hmm this is odd when I copied and pasted over some blueprints the InputAction stopped working... any ideas?

[maiden wadi]

Which actor is this?

[white oxide]

It's a Pawn actor afaik

[maiden wadi]

Is the context mapping being applied?

[remote meteor]

is the add mapping context being executed?
the subsystem get only works if the controller of the pawn resolved to a player controller.

[dusky cobalt]

Can I add HUD on top of HUD? or if I have one I have to put everything into one?

[white oxide]

How can I tell if the context mapping is being executed?

[maiden wadi]

By HUD do you mean a widget, or the AHUD actor?

[remote meteor]

you can do breakpoints or make print string

[white oxide]

Oh, right

No the IMC isn't being executed

[dusky cobalt]

Yeah, widget that is full screen and I would like to add 1 that has mechanic of drawing rectangle on it, and then the second hud would be the hud of the player ui (health etc). It's basically just 2 widgets?

[remote meteor]

if this pawn is being possessed by a controller, you can get the EnhancedInput subsystem through a player controller reference

[maiden wadi]

Then no reason you cannot. You can add how many ever widgets to screen you want.

[vivid quarry]

It's ctrl + space bar a second later (the move is a slide jump), seems to miss if pressed within a certain amount of time in the editor but works fine from BP screen and builds. Not a big deal was just curious!

[white oxide]

That did the trick! Thank you

[remote meteor]

or alternatively, you can only add the IMC after ReceivedControllerChanged event

[dusky cobalt]

Awesome, I mistaked ''HUD'' to be you know like GameInstance thing which can be only one, turns out it's just a widget, thank you! ❤️

but, there is actually only 1 hud that I can put into Project Setting and then reference to it from Get HUD node?

[remote meteor]

the hud class is set through your game mode class
from a player controller, you can call GetHUD() to retrieve it. but this is AHUD actor we are talking about

[dusky cobalt]

okaaay, got it

[remote meteor]

to add widgets to the viewport/playerscreen, it doesnt necessary need to go through this AHUD actor, however, it is provided in GameFramework due to multiplayer concerns i believe.

[dusky cobalt]

what I'm basically doing I have mechanic where I draw rectangle on the HUD and then check if something was under that rectangle, then I watched some tutorial and someone was making ''HUD'' but it was jus the way he called the widget for example

so I got confused 😄

so the AHUD is one, and widgets are different thing

so if I want to make widgets for the players, I attach them to probably PlayerController so each of them has their own?

like the base UI that everyone will see

[remote meteor]

a local coop ?

[dusky cobalt]

more like warcraft or any rts game

[maiden wadi]

It's weird handling widgets directly anymore. But AHUD is kind of preferred.

[dusky cobalt]

oh, so every player has their own AHUD when they join?

or the base would be the same so it doesn't matter

[remote meteor]

a local APlayerController would have their own AHUD

[sharp python]

I have a spline with 2 points and spline meshes placed at regular intervals along the spline (basically a "move here" arrow). I want to move the points at runtime, but apparently the recommended way to do this is to destroy and recreate all of the spline meshes every frame. This doesn't seem to work (the spline meshes don't disappear) and it doesn't seem like a performance friendly way to do this in any case? 🤔

[dusky cobalt]

Hint: Get Number of Spline Points

my PatrolRoute is reference to blue print PatroolRoute which is spline

[queen heron]

so this is funny...
the interacted actor variable is valid, but for some reason the engine fails when validating

the interacted actor is set by the line trace by channel from the hit actor output within the player blueprint

the blueprint setup is within the custom actor component called "Dialogue System"

[toxic copper]

I have an effect that begins on begin overlap and ends on end overlap. basically it sets collision on/off, and the trigger basically serves to stop movement. However, the overlapping actor is so fast, that it begins and ends the overlap before the effect of the overlap actually takes place

basically its a platform that if you land on it, it would serve as a ground. but my character is falling so quickly that it only works 90% of the time. the other 10%, the character just falls through as the collision didnt trigger fast enough to impede the end overlap.. how can i make it consistent without increasing size of collisions?

or reducing speed

[sharp python]

But aren't you still destroying and recreating all of the spline meshes every tick?

[dusk iris]

Hello. Maybe someone already solved that problem.
I need to control my skeletal mesh manually, i.e. rotate some bones, but also I'm using morph targets, so poseable component doesn't work for me.
Before UE 5.3 I used two meshes, one poseable and one usual skeletal mesh components. Leader bone component was poseable mesh and it works wonderful.
After upgrading the project to 5.4, I have segfault/exception - it works only if leader bone is skeletal mesh.

Using Anim BP also not really an option, because I animate a lot of bones, so question is: how can I manually rotate bones of skeletal mesh? 🙂 Or how fix error when leader bone component is not a skeletal mesh.

[dusky cobalt]

no, why?

[sharp python]

😮

So you're ...extending the spline?

[dusky cobalt]

Yes 🙂

if you click on one of the points, hold alt and drag, you add another ''point''

[sharp python]

Well, I only need 2 points 😛 It's basically a line of little arrows from one point to another, and when you move the mouse, it changes where the arrows point to

[dusky cobalt]

Should work with 2 points then too

[sharp python]

I don't believe "destroying all the little arrows and recreating them every frame" is how other turn based games do it

[celest oar]

ive tried this but setting it to 0 doesnt make it disapear

[sharp python]

So destroy the first point and add another?

[dusky cobalt]

No, why you want to destroy and add? 😄

My unit is moving to first point, when it reaches it, it increments the index of the point, and moves to the next point

when it reaches end, it starts to switching back and decrement the index instead of increment

you could probably add some thing that it shows the arrow over the point it's currently iterating on, or something like that

[remote meteor]

foliage.DensityScale is literally 0 🤔, did you call ApplyNonResolutionSettings from the GameUserSettings?

[dusky cobalt]

like spawn arrow at the location of Patrol[Index]

[sharp python]

Imagine a turn based game, and during your turn there's a series of arrows drawn from your character to your mouse cursor to indicate where you are going to move when you click. This series of arrows moves when you move the mouse, until you click.

Like this, but with little arrows instead of a continuous line

[dusky cobalt]

Well, i'm thinking fast, but maybe then add some interface to these squares or points that you have, and add function that when you hover mouse over it, it interacts with it and shows arrow

also you probably want to use some kind of grid system

for this type of game

and I think there is one game created by epic games with files, so would be probably good to study that

and it's turn based stratety rts

If these things you can move to are actors you could use something like this

ActorBeginCursorOver

I wonder just how it would affect performance if you had so many actors ''as a ground''. I need to try this sometime, it's actually funny idea and easy to implement which ''tile'' does what 😄

[remote meteor]

you could use a world tiled sprite

and a single spline mesh

i guess

[dusky cobalt]

i was studying these kind of tile games and it's overwhelming with this grid thing 😄

but you basically have good template from epic games so i would not really wait and just use tha t and build on top of it probably

[remote meteor]

oh yeah cropout has one i think

[dusky cobalt]

possible, but there is rts strategt that is turn based game

[remote meteor]

oh damn this is quite old 😅

[lunar sleet]

Cropout uses a grid ?

[trim matrix]

um no.

[remote meteor]

i was thinking the spline thing

[lunar sleet]

Oh ok, that makes more sense 😀

[storm solar]

Are there any good, striaght forward hitbox tutorial?
I know shawnTheBro has them, but they're in three parts and each part has big flaws about how the system works. And royal skies doesn't have anything on the matter on his chanel. IDK why this type of colision detection is so rough to deal with in UE.

[odd kiln]

What is direct hitbox ?

[storm solar]

*straight forward

[maiden wadi]

Simple Niagara ribbon emitter with a material that has arrows.

[sharp python]

Oh. Yeah. That's probably easier. (Can I still move the end point?)

[maiden wadi]

Sure. Just make a user param and set that somewhere probably on tick as the mouse moves. Unless Niagara can pull from MPCs. I normally already have an MPC set to the mouse position both in 3D and 2D space.

[maiden wadi]

What is straight forward hitboxes? Like, the big issue is that Unreal's collision detection is really simple. You have two collision events. Hit and Overlap. You have multiple channels, and you can query against complex or simplified collision. So.. you set these things up to do what you need. But you're asking an exceptionally vague question without any notes about what it is you personally are trying to achieve and why the tools you're using aren't working for that job.

[storm solar]

Like, there are tutorials that span over multiple videos and 1 1/2 hours long for something that seems like it should be pretty straight forward. Like in my previous post.
To get into more technical detail I'm working on an action rpg project where the player and enemy are able to be hit, reacted to that hit and be in a stun state and continue to be hit in that state causing a combo to happen.
Like I said before the tutorials I found online seem to be incomplete with various issues such as.
-not accounting for the actor facing the opposite direction (being inverted)
-Only having the hitbox be active for for the first active frame of it's entire duration.
-Having the action reset his stun animation while he is hit mid stun
-Unable to change hitbox size / duration for different attacks.
-And more

[halcyon vapor]

you should look up tutorials "unreal engine dark souls" they should help you out more with what you are looking for

@storm solar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-DsZ7xiijo&list=PLNBX4kIrA68lz8GSxTQKX_0B23tHP6Bl9&pp=iAQB

this is basically everything you'd be interested in, up to you to watch it all...which I did that's why I'm putting this here

[maiden wadi]

That is.. a lot more than just hitboxes. 😂

The stun part alone implies some form of ability and attribute system like GAS to manage the stunned buff and the ability to apply it and the buff to not get stunned again for a time, etc.

Attack hitboxes sounds related to abilities, so would be done via whatever abilities your game has.

Really no idea on the direction thing. Hitboxes don't care about direction as they are volumes. Traces might have issues, but I doubt it.

The first part about being hit and reacting to it are a combo of buffs and cues. You get hit and two things happen, you do a cue that probably does an animation, particles, and sounds. Then the second part is applying the stun buff. The same hit ability would have different checks for the stunned effect and either do a normal hit or the combo effect.

Very little of this is actually about hitboxes. You could set 90% of this up with keypresses that directly apply these things, and then add hit detection later.

[storm solar]

But i gotta start somewhere.
So, how are hitboxes not important for this. Would I want to be using traces instead? Or something else?

[storm solar]

Ah, I guess i was looking for a the wrong genre. I'm looking to make a Tales of project, so I was looking up action and fighting game tutorials.\

[halcyon vapor]

will you have anything that would even feel or act like an ability in your game?

[maiden wadi]

Every game has something that can be considered an ability. 😄

[halcyon vapor]

then he has to watch the GAS tutorial xD

[storm solar]

as yes, the Games As a Service tutorial.

[halcyon vapor]

Service? There is no online features in this one

[storm solar]

you mean something like this?
https://youtu.be/b2i34TpgBtM

[halcyon vapor]

watch the trailer at the start of the playlist, you'll understand what it is about

[maiden wadi]

GAAS is not GAS

Gameplay Ability System

[storm solar]

So in the start of the video he starts off by saying he is not going to be using GAS.

[halcyon vapor]

he is talking about an unreal engine plugin, epic games made their own GAS (gameplay ability system) and he says he will do his own GAS from scratch all in blueprints

[storm solar]

ah, it's a plugin, okay.

[maiden wadi]

Lol, GAS entirely in blueprints sounds like a disaster. Probably functional for singleplayer. I'd hate to see the data entry on that without C++ markups.

[dusky cobalt]

I heard somewhere that it's not good advice to tell someone to do GAS when they are beginners, and a lot of things can be done in just blueprints. The GAS alone is a big system that will take so much time for someone to learn. It's good for advanced people but I see everyone is recommending it. For example, Godot or Unity you dont have GAS and people create abilities somehow, so you clearly dont need GAS to do some simple things...

It's other story when you are already experienced and you want to learn new system but..

[twin shale]

Does anyone know off the top of their head how interp speed is calculated? I have an interp speed and I want to determine how long it will take to cover the distance at the given interp speed

[halcyon vapor]

you are correct, but he mentioned rpg earlier, so yeah

[trim matrix]

can you send me this tutorial? I've never heard of it

[halcyon vapor]

it's a meme about how bad Ubisoft has become

[trim matrix]

ubisoft is good tho

did you see the last AAAA game..

(in my opinion)

[halcyon vapor]

indeed, made assassin creed black flag looks like it is -25 year old

[maiden wadi]

Anyone giving that advice probably shouldn't be taken seriously. If they find GAS complex, then they're not advanced in the slightest. GAS is a really simple system but it can get really complex if you want it to but it really does not need to be. For abilities, literally all you need to do is create an ability blueprint. Add an ability component to the owning actor. Grant the ability, and use the ability from the same component.

If you want attributes, then you need a very minor amount of C++ on top of that, but attributes are not required. Just the abilities and tagged gameplay effects alone go a long way to simplify life.

And you're right, other engines don't have GAS. It's UE specific. But all it is is a template to quickly build on. You can make your own, but it really isn't worth the time.

[trim matrix]

I think it's mostly when you want to have multiple abilities / power in your game... You might not need it

[maiden wadi]

That sentence made no sense.

[trim matrix]

'the game logic of how a fireball works and looks'

[maiden wadi]

You might not need an ability system... to have multiple abilities in your game?

[halcyon vapor]

oh yeah, I've seen tutorial about those kinda games...But if you want to build more from them, you'll have to ditch all the code, because abilities without a GAS will be like making a building without a foundation, sure if you only have 1 ground floor it might work, but anything higher than that and you'll be screwed

[maiden wadi]

GAS is 100% not a requirement. But saying beginners shouldn't use it is like saying that people who can't run 100k marathons shouldn't walk. Like.. why the fuck would you ask a beginner to make their own system before learning to use one that already exists and is easy to use?

[dusky cobalt]

I'm not sure if I'm on the same page, maybe GAS is good for RPGish like abilities? Or is it good for all kinds of abilities? (similiar to let's say in league of legends or diablo as well?)

[maiden wadi]

GAS Abilities can be used for anything you can classify as an action granted to a thing, mostly.

[dusky cobalt]

any good video that summarizes GAS so I can get to know if its worth it for me to study it?

[maiden wadi]

Sidecroller with the ability to jump and shoot, or dash. All three abilities. FPS game with guns shooting, grenades, placing C4, sliding. All abilities. RPG with fireballs, bows shoowing an arrow, melee attacks, all three abilities.

[halcyon vapor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-DsZ7xiijo&list=PLNBX4kIrA68lz8GSxTQKX_0B23tHP6Bl9&pp=iAQB

[dusky cobalt]

he is working with gas?

[halcyon vapor]

anything that involves the player pressing a button and any form of "special attack" could be made into a GAS

[halcyon vapor]

he is MAKING one

from scratch

[maiden wadi]

You don't make GAS. You use it. :/

[halcyon vapor]

yeah, but the GAS from epic games needs a bit of extra C++ to set up doesn't it?

[maiden wadi]

Only Attributes.

[dusky cobalt]

i dont feel like learning any system to make ability that is basically spawning particle that deals 10dmg every time someone collapses with it but maybe im closed minded

[maiden wadi]

Supposedly even attributes are getting a BP thing soon from what I heard.

[halcyon vapor]

nice

[flat coral]

Alright I'm not even quite sure where to start with this. I've got this big hallway that's just rotating in space, and the problem is a turret I made fails to correctly rotate with it but ONLY if it's rolling. If the hallway is rotating by changing just its Pitch or Yaw, the turret does the right thing.
Turret in question is built on a skeletal mesh that looks like this

[delicate surge]

"I was trying to make a system where you can enter the train and move along the spline, and I have two problems which I couldn't fix. The first problem was the rail creation. I use a spline to create a path, and then I add the rail mesh on it. When I use the mesh length, I get a gap between the rails. If I use the spline points, I stretch the mesh too much. Any ideas on how I could fix this?

Secondly, the movement mechanism of my train. I can move it endlessly, but not to a specific point. Does anyone know how to do it?

[flat coral]

Worth noting that this isn't being caused by any of the code or logic in the turret. I've got a zero-code version of the turret that i use to just pose for screenshots since the live thing is mean and tough to catch in action, and that also encounters this same issue

Oh now THIS is weird. I wondered if this is was just a fundamental attribute of that skeletal mesh, so I dragged that alone into the level but THAT rotates correctly! You can see it in the foreground here, sticking to the floor unlike the two misbehaving in the background.

So somehow it's specifically how the mesh is configured in the turret that makes it break

[maiden wadi]

The main thing GAS does is separates stuff into their place. The core parts of it are largely Abilities, Attributes, Effects, and Cues.

Abilities do things. You grant them to a user and they can.. use them. Spawn fireballs, shoot things, crouch, jump, etc.

Attributes are stats. Health, Mana, Energy, Stamina, Strength, Willpower, Shields, Barrier, MovementSpeed, Armor, Resists. Attribute Sets are set up to define how these work. EG a basic health attribute set has Health and Max Health and in it's overrides it defines that Health can never be set higher than Max Health regardless of what anything in the game tries to do. So you can heal someone for 99999 health, but if they only have 500 health, they end up with 500 health.

Effects are buffs. They can be instant, or last for a duration. They can stack or not. They can affect attributes, they can apply status tags, etc. You would apply an Effect to heal. Instant or over time, add to health. Or as a DoT, subtract from health over time. You can use an Effect to stop a player from jumping by applying a tag that stops the jump ability from working.

Cues are visuals and sounds. Abilities and Effects both can apply these. EG someone being set on fire would apply an Effect for a fire DoT, it would add a Cue that would apply a particle and sounds to the affected target and when the effect wore off it would remove said particle and sound.

You can use all of these in BP alone with very little work except for Attributes. These require a few lines of C++ to set up per attribute.

The best part of this system is that it's based on a single actor component. Which means you can apply a Fireball skill to a character, and some Trap actor. So both can cast the same Fireball skill and you don't need to duplicate logic, you simply grant the skill to both actors.

[dry pecan]

so for a character thats not the player, what kind of get would that be? in this case its a character that acts as my main boss

[maiden wadi]

Depends. Why do you need it? What is the context?

[faint pasture]

interp speed is exactly that, how big of a change in the vector per second is allowed

if current is 0,0,0 and target is 100,0,0 and speed is 100 it'll reach target in 1 second

if your delta time was 0.1 you'd see outputs like:
10,0,0
20,0,0
30,0,0
40,0,0
etc

[dusky cobalt]

Like let's say you manage different kind of heroes, one is healer, 2nd one is knight etc. I mean seems like GAS is more than abilities if you already have health there etc. I will check it for sure.

[maiden wadi]

Sure. This topic gets a lot more complex because it's not just about abilities. But as far as abilities are concerned, it can be as simple as basically granting a different set of abilities to each class.

One other good benefit is easy AI use. You can tag abilities certain ways, and just tell an AI "Use Ability of this tag type", and if it has multiple it can pick at random.

[dusky cobalt]

Sounds exciting. I just hope it's not too complex and there are any good tutorials you can recommend from youtube for example?

or how did you learn when you heard about it?

[kind willow]

I was trying to make a slightly tweaked version of box reflection capture to make it easier to resize. I succeeded, but the issue is that I need to change the transition distance between the cube maps, so I went to cast to the box in order to change the variable and I'm having a weird problem:
The value can only be changed from Box reflection capture component object reference, but I can only cast to Box reflection capture object and I have no idea what the "component" is since I can't find it anywhere. Can't find any info on a "component" anywhere

I can cast to the Box reflection capture component object reference, but can't find anything that would fit the "object" criteria

[maiden wadi]

Personal experimentation mostly. There is a really good C++ version that shows how to set up attributes. But the abilities, effects, etc is largely just piecing stuff together. I also learned when it was a lot newer though. I don't really do tutorials much but there is probably some good content these days now that people aren't allergic to Lyra anymore.

[faint pasture]

I'm guessing your casting to a box reflection capture ACTOR, which holds a boxreflectioncaptor component inside it

just like how if you drag a mesh into the world, you make a static mesh ACTOR which is made up of a single static mesh COMPONENT

[kind willow]

Hmm... let me check

if that is the case, then I don't know how to extract it from the actor. Can't seem to be able to pull it out of the actor cast :\

The closest thing I've got is "capture component"

[dark drum]

Is anyone able to help me make sense of these numbers? For some reason, the interp value moves away from the desired vector and I can't see why.

[coarse yew]

What would be the best way to go about adding different abilities for different characters? Think of overwatch abilities but some of them will having stack effects like some abilities in League of Legends. For example if you get hit by the ability “Frost Nova” you will gain 1 stack of frostbite. What is the best way to make the hit player add the +1 stack?

[maiden wadi]

#blueprint message

[maiden wadi]

These seem fine? It looks like it's moving from Current to Desired?

[coarse yew]

Exactly what I was looking for, Thanks!

[dark drum]

Never mind, just spotted my mistake. It never stops because I'm checking the location of the camera, instead of the spring arm. 🤦‍♂️

[hoary junco]

does anyone here have any kind of tutorial on what manager classes are and how to use them?
I've been setting up my save system but I have 2 instances of my project, one is using the GUID system that I was working on with datura, the second is using this tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gfA-QO5pA8 I want to compare and contrast the 2.. see how scalable they are, see how well they work etc, when I asked about doing things like destroying objects that aren't meant to be in the level, saving items that were added into the level, saving positions etc, what the creator of the video told me was this:
"Should handle it fine. You can have a manager class that keeps track of items like that in the world."
I've done a lot of searching and can't find what a "manager class" is, how to make one, or how to use one to save data

can anyone link me to a source for how to do this?

[faint pasture]

sounds like thats it

[dark drum]

A manager class is just a class you create that handles the behavior of specific groups objects. For example, for world items. A 'World Item Manager' could handle spawning in world items into the world, destroying them and (what you're looking for) saving/loading them. A manager class acts as a single place you can go when you need to do something to a group of actors that the manager was made for.

The ones I've worked on recently are things like, Dialogue Manager, Quest Manager and Actor Manager. The all handle their own saving for the specific objects they manage.

[kind willow]

Well, using it as an object didn't work, but I did use it as an object for another cast to Box reflection capture component object reference, which did not show any errors, but unfortunately, variables aren't coming trough, so changing the transition distance variable did not reflect changes in the editor :(

[hoary junco]

how would that work in the context of what I'm looking for though? Like, does the class just contain a shit tonne of variables or something? How do they get updated per instance? IDK how this gets used for a save file...

it's a concept I've not really run into which is why I'm looking for a tutorial on it

so far google searching has led to dead ends :/

[dark drum]

A manager class just contains the functions in needs to do what you want it to do. I have an actor manager class that I can use to register actors so they can be retrived by name. I also used the same class to handle loading of generic actor data (true/false and basic numbers).

I have a component that handles saving/loading generic data for an actor and it knows to look to the actor manager to get it's data.

With something like world items, the items (when triggered) could push its data to something like a 'World Item Manager' that then collates that data and pushes it to an SGO.

These are some of the functions for my Dialogue Manager and Quest manager to give you some more ideas.

[hoary junco]

ok... do you have anywhere that goes through step by step on how to build such a thing?
Like I get there's functions in here, that's progress, I don't know what each of those functions do or how to make a save system out of them though...

I am VERY new to unreal engine...

like even a basic rundown of saving and loading item data and positions.... I could probably figure out the rest myself... maybe... but I need a starting point, this list of functions is very much the deep end to me right now

[gentle urchin]

Seem to be moving correctly

[dark drum]

I've not come across any tutorials myself. They can be pretty specific to a system which is probably why there's not many tutorials out there for them.

[hoary junco]

great :/ just great...

[teal vapor]

Howdy I'm trying to copy a material instance to a variable in my Game Instance but I'm having no luck. Any insight to what I should do?

[undone sequoia]

guys how I can math altitude in game in metres?

[dark drum]

You can't connect a material 'Interface' to a material 'Instance'.

[hoary junco]

every unit in UE5 is 1 centimetre I'm pretty sure

[dark drum]

z = 100 is 1m. z = 1000 is 10m and so .

[undone sequoia]

hmmm because I did like this /100 but i was thinking that my altitude is moving so fast lol

[hoary junco]

I mean, 1 meter isn't that far in altitude... a 6 ft person is around 2m tall so you move half the height of an average man every meter

[dark drum]

For context, a space rocket needs to reach speeds around 7,957 meters per second to leave earths orbit.

[undone sequoia]

i am in plane and it seemed for me fast 😄 to get from 100 metres to 500

now editing gravity when stall speed

[maiden wadi]

You need a cast

[hoary junco]

hey, would you be able to do me a favor? Is there a way you could create an example blueprint of a manager class that just stores the locations of objects and checks if editor level objects are supposed to be in the level or not on load and send me it as an example piece so I can pull it apart and try and figure out how the whole system works? or point me to a place where I could get a file like this? If there's no tutorials I really need something to learn from :/

[dark drum]

if it helps any more, planes normally fly around 10,000 meters up.

[hoary junco]

also cruising speed for a passenger plane is 250 meters per second

planes go fast... they go very fast

[undone sequoia]

yea maybe i am also wrong converting its speed tried to get from cmˇper second to km/h

[hoary junco]

lol yeah that's going to be quite far off 😛

[dark drum]

I don't really have this sort of time free. It can sometimes take a few hours to set something like this up.

[hoary junco]

don't you have an example in your existing project? I'd settle for screenshots but honestly I don't exactly have many other options here... like how is anyone supposed to learn this stuff if nobody's willing to provide examples to learn from?

[teal vapor]

You my HERO! ❤️ 🙏 Thank you Authaer!

[dark drum]

Not my personal projects no. This might be helpful, it's a tutorial I did 3 years ago in UE4. There's definitely things I would do differently but it might be a start for you. (using an actor component for the manager, using a GUID for the actual UID instead of a string to name a few)

The tutorial is saving collectibles and having already picked up items be destroyed when reloading.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNfhc4_Vz6s&ab_channel=MichaelPattison

[hoary junco]

thanks I'll give it a look over, using GUIDs is something I've sorta gotten the hang of by now so I could probably combine the 2.. but I do have a bit more freedom to experiment with this considering it's just a copy project.. like the original one I have with the other save system is still as is

[kindred galleon]

I need help with VOIPTalker.
https://blueprintue.com/blueprint/udr_w73k/
I tried adding the component as well, but no luck. Voicelevel prints 0
Stuff like AudioCapture works well.

[dusky cobalt]

Get all actors of class, get their location, for each actor add it to array, simple

[hoary junco]

I mean that solves location sure but say I put a sword in the world in the editor, player spawns in, player picks up sword, player saves game, player quits, player comes back, editor puts sword back in world. I want the game to remove the sword when the player loads in

I have a system for this through GUIDs but I didn't know if the idea of manager classes would handle it any differently or if it was just maybe the same thing but in a slightly different packaging

[dusky cobalt]

why do you want to remove the sword when players loads in?

[hoary junco]

because the player has picked up the sword before they saved

so when they load back in it wouldn't be in the world

but unless told to do otherwise UE would load the default version of the level, which by default the level has a sword in it

[dawn gazelle]

It's not really answerable. You'd likely still end up using GUIDs or some other form of identifiers with a save manager.

[hoary junco]

still, are there any advantages to using a save manager over the current system?

[dawn gazelle]

Depends on what the save manager does and what you need.

That's sadly not something anyone could answer for you.

[hoary junco]

I mean, am I just the only person on the planet who can't seem to figure out how to build these systems from scratch? :/

it's not like I'm not experimenting because I am.. that's why I created a copy of my project, to mess with and test... but I never seem to get anywhere nor do I even particularly know where to start

[dark drum]

If it helps, I've been using UE for over 10 years and only really started down the route of managers a few years ago.

Think of it from an Employee/Employer perspective. The manager (Employer) tells their employees what to do. The employees go off and do what they need to do and report back to the manager when they need some help or guidance.

Employee checks with the manager, 'Hey, should I be a work today?' If employer says no, they go home.

[hoary junco]

I understand that in concept, honestly I do... it's the translating concept to code that is my biggest flaw, always has been. It's easier in blueprints than it ever was for me in written code, that's what got me over the roadblock of actually developing anything to begin with.. I'm a very visual person and written programming languages look like they were written by some lovecraftian horror to me...

[trim matrix]

Anyone know how I could rework this at all ?

what's a GUIDs?

[dawn gazelle]

Globally Unique Identifier

[trim matrix]

I'm trying to have it so the task checks for an avalible seat for the AI to be placed in

[dawn gazelle]

Big number generated that should basically always be unique.

[trim matrix]

Is that a usefull feature or not really?

[trim matrix]

oh

at the moment issue I am getting is the seat occupied being pulled from the specific table in the world seems to be not matching somehow so the AI is being placed in same seat on top of each other each time

[dark drum]

This beauty. When you generate a new one its pretty much guaranteed to be unique.

[trim matrix]

mhm I see

I have this BP code that checks for a key contains and then if there is one sets the value on that key

which works but somehow when the AI Task pulls the occupied it's default to being all seats are false

[trim matrix]

what's the C++ GUIDs?

[dusky cobalt]

Honestly just watch some more tutorials, get as much input info as you can and then try to invent something. You could even honestly probably get some references from unity c# tutorials and then easy translate it into blueprints, since it's just concept that you are looking for. Basically Managers are usually 1 instance where you feed all the info you need and then you do something with info that is stored there.

[dark drum]

This is on my component I use for handling generic save data I mentioned earlier. This is what gets called on begin play.

[dark drum]

just an FGuid structure type I believe.

[dusky cobalt]

I was doing some things in Unity before I Found unreal, and I often created managers and ''handlers'' but in blueprints I didn't find yet any need to create something like that.

[hoary junco]

I do want to watch tutorials, that was my original question, for some tutorials on how to build out these kinds of save manager structures

[lofty rapids]

the manager would just handle the data

you can save it at anytime, i would imagine you wouldn't save it repeatedly ?

[dusky cobalt]

As I said try to watch some concepts that are in unity c#, but I think you are overcomplicating this in your head and it's just quite simple 😄 And if it's hard for you to imagine what your manager would be doing then you probably dont need it and trying to force it

[dawn gazelle]

And you likely won't find them as it's a much more advanced topic that youtubers wouldn't want to cover as:

1. They're not fun and engaging
2. They're too long to record
3. They don't necessarily apply to many games in general
4. The end result doesn't get you something flashy.

[lofty rapids]

Simply drop an actor in the scene and you got your self a "manager"

[hoary junco]

this does actually help quite a bit. like I don't understand everything in this screenshot but it's given me far more to work with

[dark drum]

The 'OnInitializeStates' is bound to on the owner of the save component. It pretty much replaces the begin play and is called when the data is loaded.

[dusky cobalt]

Are you getting your Actor Manager with casting or interface?

[hoary junco]

ya know... I feel really fucking stupid now... for ages I was agonizing over how to apply properties to an object when it spawned into the level but have it trigger before beginplay....

[dusky cobalt]

nice idea

[hoary junco]

I'm guessing generic states is just how it exists in the level editor?

like the editor being the generic state of that level as a default?

[dark drum]

Generic States is an actor component I put on actors that have generic states that need saving, things that tend to just be on/off, true/false or just a float/int. Pretty much what ever can be converted into a string so I can join them all together.

The SGO then has a map which is a GUID/String pair.

[mortal coral]

I have a struct with a BlueprintAssignable event on it...however, in the blueprint editor, i can't actually set that event to anything

[trim matrix]

Anyone have any idea why this won't work ?

[hoary junco]

can you put an array of structs on that to be converted into a string too?

[trim matrix]

my AI Characters use same ABP and skeleton as player but the cast to their BP BaseAICharacter seems to just not work doesn't be sucess or fail

[twin shale]

Okay, that's what I thought but I saw that it was being multiplied against delta and was worried it was doing something I didnt expect. Thank you

[ripe comet]

this is causing
Blueprint Runtime Error: "Accessed None trying to read property K2Node_Event_spawn_door". Node: Set Actor Transform Graph: EventGraph Function: Execute Ubergraph Exit Door Blueprint: exitDoor Blueprint Runtime Error: "Accessed None trying to read property CallFunc_K2_GetRootComponent_ReturnValue". Node: Set Actor Transform Graph: EventGraph Function: Execute Ubergraph Exit Door Blueprint: exitDoor

[dark drum]

Not really, structs kinda leave the realm of being generic for this system. But there's nothing stopping you from saving a structure in the SGO instead of string. It's just what I used to keep it generic.

[hoary junco]

fair enough, I have an inventory system that uses an array of structs to fill out the contents which is why I was asking

[dawn gazelle]

Don't pull pins across execution paths

If the green line executes first... How do any of these have values?

[ripe comet]

ahhhh i see, i thought it would be fine since interacted is called for this too

[faint pasture]

Speed x DeltaTime = HowMuchToChangeThisFrame

[dark drum]

Out of curiosity, how many class need to implement 'Spawn Room'.

[ripe comet]

its supposed to set the spawnroom door to the original door you interact with

[ripe comet]

like 2 maybe 3, at the moment 2 tho

[dark drum]

What are they? Also by Implement, i don't mean call.

[ripe comet]

its just to spawn the dungeon, and link the exit door with the entrance door

[trim matrix]

anyone got any idea on this please

[ripe comet]

and later on to send a message to all "resource" nodes to spawn a random resource

[dawn gazelle]

How do you know it doesn't work?

[faint pasture]

What's not working about it?

[faint pasture]

Why don't you just have a BaseCharacter that they all are?

[trim matrix]

That base AI Character Cast does work but doesn't seem to actually set the variable tied into it's resulting out

[teal vapor]

Anyone know the difference between a Material Instance and a Material Instance Actor? I tried looking Material Instance Actor online but not getting any hits or results..

[faint pasture]

Which of the 4 paths is it actually taking here?

[dark drum]

Replace 'Pawn Owner' with 'Try Get Owner' and do an is valid check on it.

[ripe comet]

would this be better?

[faint pasture]

Either pawn owner isn't valid, or its a first person character, or its a baseaicharacter, or it's neither

which is happening?

[trim matrix]

so for the player the first person

and then for the AI the second path

[faint pasture]

no

gross

[trim matrix]

only one of the cast will be a success

[faint pasture]

So what's the actual problem?

[ripe comet]

well i need it to store the specific door that you originally interact with

[dawn gazelle]

Doesn't fix the issue at all.
If you need the value from the bottom interface, then you must make sure that the value is set before you call the set actor transform.
Same with the pull of the value from whatever is above.

[trim matrix]

watch more tutorials

[faint pasture]

then do that

[ripe comet]

and use that door as a transform location

[faint pasture]

then do that

you can just get it in the other path

[warped juniper]

Hey there. I'm trying to make a variable that stores an actor's position in the world as it was manually placed.

[trim matrix]

this worked perfect thank you

[warped juniper]

This is to make an AI enemy return to its original location after the player leaves the aggro range.

[warped juniper]

However, the variable currently is always 0 no matter how I try to access the current world location of the actor.

[ripe comet]

the interact target is just to see whats being hit by the spherecast

[ripe comet]

sorry this IS the exit door class

[faint pasture]

#blueprint message

[warped juniper]

Well nevermind me. I made an oversight

[ripe comet]

it needs to get the entrance door

[faint pasture]

Either way don't mix your execution paths like that

[ripe comet]

then how do i get the specific door that you originally use

without storing a variable OF that door

[faint pasture]

store a variable of that door

[ripe comet]

which spawns randomly and is possible to have multiple of them at once

[faint pasture]

what is the logic for which door this thing cares about?

Why does an exit door have a variable called exitdoor

your code is very confusing

[hoary junco]

https://tenor.com/view/savingprivateryan-ww2-old-soldier-matt-damon-gif-4203998

[ripe comet]

the door outside when interacted with spawns a dungeon + exit door, i want to save the specific entrance door IN the exit door it creates so you can call its transform to leave

[hoary junco]

me remembering how old that "yo dawg" meme was

[ripe comet]

lol that was funny

currently it KINDA works, it just brings you to world origin instead of the door location since it cant find it

[faint pasture]

OK so each door stores a ref to another door, what SETS that ref, some manager?

[ripe comet]

its supposed to be this

[trim matrix]

door manager

[ripe comet]

no

no

this

this is IN the entrance door class

it spawns the dungeon using an interface with SELF as an input

[faint pasture]

my brother you are deep in the weeds on this one. OK in plain english, explain how the dungeon is created.

[ripe comet]

then passes that input to the exit door

lmao

[faint pasture]

Game starts -> ???????????? -> There's a dungeon now

[faint pasture]

why are you spawning an actor then getting actor of class, just get the thing you just spawned

[ripe comet]

game starts >>> you move down >>> door spawns >>> interact with door >>> creates dungeon instance that includes a exit door actor >>> issue

[faint pasture]

Who does the creating, the door or a thing the door spawns?

or some manager that's already around

and is the "exit door" the door you just interacted with, or another one on the other side of the dungeon?

[dark drum]

The 'Spawn Room' function you call in here has the target to self meaning, you're calling that fuction on itself. Passing a ref of itself to itself.

[ripe comet]

the door creates the "generator" which includes the dungeon layout, exit door, and eventually resource nodes

this has the exit door in the actor

[faint pasture]

Is the exit door the door you just went through or is it another one on the other side of the dungeon?

that's what I'm trying to figure out

how many doors does a dungeon have

[ripe comet]

1 door

[ripe comet]

the exit door is the door on the inside of the dungeon, the straight up "door" is the one that spawns randomly

[faint pasture]

OK, reformulate.
Put all your dungeon generating stuff in a component on GameState or just in GameState itself, or in an actor you place in the world. No more creating generators all the time.
2, when a door is interacted with, have it talk to the generator and say "i just got opened", thats it. No doors creating worlds or anything like that, it just says that it got interacted with.

[ripe comet]

that node isnt actually passing to anything i dont think, its being wierd i cant delete it and my other interface doesnt have it

[faint pasture]

you're calling it ON yourself

you're saying "Hey self (a door), spawn a room"

first off that probably isn't right

if it is right, it shouldn't be

you should say "hey GENERATOR, spawn a room, I am the exit door"

this does not need to be an interface anyway, idk why everyon'es shoving everything into interfaces nowadays but it's goofy. Spawning a room should be the job of the generator, just make it an event on Generator and be done with it.

[ripe comet]

okay, so entrance door spawn exit door, exit door spawn building

rn its entrance door spawn generator, generator includes exit door and building

[trim matrix]

pretty advanced to me

[dark drum]

How does 'Dungeon' spawn the 'ExitDoor'?

[ripe comet]

the exit door is included in the actor

[dark drum]

As a child actor componet?

[ripe comet]

yea

[dark drum]

Ok, so when the dungeon has spawned, it needs to get the actor (the exit door) from the child actor component and pass the ref to the original door to it.

[ripe comet]

yes

wait

when the dungeon is spawned, the exit door (in the generator actor) needs to get and save a refrence to the original door that spawned the dungeon

so that you can interact with the exit door and be sent back to the original door

[faint pasture]

ok so door stores ref to door, and is given that ref by the generator

[stoic ledge]

[faint pasture]

Actor Door
Door DoorISendGuysTo

[ripe comet]

actor door gets interacted with >> spawn the generator >> generator has NO CODE IN IT but includes a child actor "exit door" >> give exit door refrence to original actor door

[faint pasture]

what the fuck no

lol

don't do it like that

[ripe comet]

im not good at this lmao, im learning and practicing still

[faint pasture]

If generator doesn't have any code, who does the generation?

Start with the thing that makes the dungeon

[dark drum]

I think it's premade.

[ripe comet]

the original door SPAWNS the actor that is named "generator"

it is

[faint pasture]

wait, the door contains the code to make dungeons?

[dusky cobalt]

is generator empty? 😄

[ripe comet]

basically the original door has the code to SPAWN IN and teleport you to the dungeon

here

[faint pasture]

Is the dungeon generated at runtime?

what the hell is actually going on

[ripe comet]

no

[faint pasture]

so a dungeon is just a thing

[stoic ledge]

a map?

[ripe comet]

this is everything that generator is

[faint pasture]

Why call it a generator if it's not doing any generating

ok explain from a high level, what the hell the actual logic behind how this works is.
You have rooms, and a dungeon, and doors.
How does it all work experience-wise, not the code, don't tell me about doors spawning things

[dusky cobalt]

it looks like it's a weird bridge?

[ripe comet]

because eventually im going to add nodes inside of it that when called with the spawnroom will spawn a random actor for different resources

i havent gotten that far yet

[faint pasture]

I play your game. I'm some dude. I'm in a room? I walk up to a door, interact with it, what happens?

[ripe comet]

the door creates an instance of a PREMADE dungeon, in the premade dungeon is an exit door

you interact with the door, get sent back to the door that generated the dungeon

[stoic ledge]

;D
lets see ur door bp?

[stoic ledge]

ok, most of that code should be in a separate bp (i think). the door would more or less simply have a function call that handles the teleporting and the new area generation.

also i didnt want to scroll any further and am somewhat confused to what your issue actually is ;o

[ripe comet]

the exit door cant find a refrence to the original door, and instead of teleporting you to it it just teleports you to world origin

[stoic ledge]

my first assumtion is that your door gets deleted

[ripe comet]

when you interact it calls "spawnroom" with itself as a input

hop over to exit door

[stoic ledge]

but im not sure how your world works, is your world all part of one level / map?

[ripe comet]

yea

i didnt wanna deal with level saving

but at this point im wondering if its better to build everything in different levels and figure out how to save EVERYTHING in the main level when you switch

[stoic ledge]

so once teleported, can u run around and actually see the original door?

[ripe comet]

no

[stoic ledge]

i mean to ask, does it get deleted?

[ripe comet]

no it doesnt, not untill it gets too high

but thats part of the "world"

just to give the illusion of movement

[stoic ledge]

essentially u are just teleporting from room to room?

[ripe comet]

yea

but the exit door is generated with the dungeon

and cant find the original door

[stoic ledge]

is there a variable you set called 'EntranceDoor' or how are you passing it to the Event 'SpawnRoom'?

that path of nodes referencing the Entrance door is somewhere losing or not being set correctly.

@ripe comet The node reads 'None'?

[iron furnace]

hey everyone, i have a spawner that creates enemies in an area around them near some trucks and my current problem is the enemy has a chance of spawning on top of the trucks and cant get down, how would i make it to where the enemies can get off of these trucks?

[last ingot]

Hey. I'm getting desperate would love for someone to help. Was working on my character blueprint when all of a sudden it lost almost all of its info. I mean in terms of the CharMovComp, the Mesh, their details tab on the right are just empty. Running the Project Preview has the character disappeared.

I got the same problem as this forums post: https://forums.unrealengine.com/t/character-movement-disappeared/1273475
Except the recommended solution does not work for me

I thought of retrieving the .uasset Blueprint from Autosave, but that doesn't work for some reason, it says that it failed to import and can not read uasset as an extension (weird)

And starting all over from scratch would be pretty tedious and crazy, any help? Thanks.

[long breach]

show navmesh

[stoic ledge]

@last ingot odd. can u just add it again?

[last ingot]

Add what precisely?

[dawn gazelle]

Have source control? You probably need to revert back to an earlier state.

There's been several reports of people having a similar problem with their characters.

[flat coral]

What's the most basic primitive component? I just need something to attach a phys constraint to that need not otherwise exist

I'd use a scene component if that was a valid choice but it isnt

[dawn gazelle]

PrimitiveComponent is a child of SceneComponent which is a child of ActorComponent.

[flat coral]

Ya but you can't just instantiate a primitive component, is my problem

[versed sun]

Primitive Component is father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate

[versed sun]

what made the primitive component? have that run whatever you need after spawning it

[stoic ledge]

a Uobject?

[flat coral]

I think you've misunderstood the question. There is no primitive component, yet. I need to make one for this purpose, and I'm trying to figure out which class of primitive component has the absolute minimum cruft on it, since whatever functionality it brings will be dead weight

[versed sun]

what does it need to do? why dosnt scene comp work?

overkill ?

[flat coral]

I'm basically just trying to attach this thing to the ground. I'd use the scene root if I could

[versed sun]

does it spawn in or you want it to exist in the level ?

[flat coral]

It exists in level

I'm just using a collision box with all collision turned off

[obtuse kraken]

1-10 scale how cursed is this first person look logic?

[versed sun]

Billboard with no sprite ?

🤌

[stoic ledge]

@flat coral is that a mesh?

[faint pasture]

why are you setting the camera's rotation 3 times?

[thin panther]

Somewhat cursed. Why aren't you just adding control rotation? It's one of the benefits of actually having a controller possess a character.

Also that

[obtuse kraken]

cause it kept jittering when it hit the clamp so I added a set before a branch and after, i kinda forget the rest of the reasoning, it works tho

[faint pasture]

Just do all your clamping and such before setting rotation

Input -> math -> set rotation

[toxic copper]

While the game is paused, im casting to my character and setting the camera's ortho width. a print string is showing that the ortho width was successfully changed, and yet the camera view doesnt change at all. I've made sure every component is ticking while paused. any suggestions? I've also tried spawning a different camera and changing view target but no luck

[obtuse kraken]

is that like a go to sequence for everything?

[trim matrix]

is bool good for crossplatform? (ex: int is not good but int16 is...)

[faint pasture]

I'd say so

[obtuse kraken]

ok ty for the tip

[thin panther]

not a concern in bp, you literally don't have an alternative

[obtuse kraken]

i just started coding and using unreal 3 days ago

[trim matrix]

what about c++**

[faint pasture]

looks pretty good for 3 days in

[thin panther]

then why'd you ask in the blueprint channel

[trim matrix]

well, nobody is alive there

[faint pasture]

@obtuse krakenLearn about Control Rotation and make sure you're not trying to reinvent it. There's reasons not to use it, but there are also reasons to use it.

It's just a rotation the Controller has, which many things can just opt-in to using

[thin panther]

That doesn't mean you can post to a channel where the question isn't relevant, nor where a lot of the people here actually use the thing :P
but yes, a bool in C++ is fine. (as is an int really)

[last ingot]

Could you explain to me how to have this system working? Or perhaps point me towards a guide that helps set that up? Thanks

[trim matrix]

mhm, some platform doesn't support int, so ppl told me to use primitives types (int16, int64...) but I don't think that applies to bool

[obtuse kraken]

I think I tried using it, but it wasnt moving me forward the way I was facing. Turned out this was because of how I previously did movement. I re-did my camera and movement and got it to work this way and completely forgot that it was the movement preventing me from using control rotation so I never went back lol

[faint pasture]

Do you know what source control is in general?

[thin panther]

Every platform that matters supports int nowadays. The sizing can change on some platforms, but again most of the ones agree

[faint pasture]

Hey I'm shipping my game to run on Setun, don't judge

[trim matrix]

what about ps3

[thin panther]

Who's launching to PS3?

Sony don't even grant licenses for that anymore lol

[trim matrix]

ok lol

thse are the ones: int8, uint8, int16, uint16, int32, uint32, int64, uint64

[thin panther]

But yes. Everything supports an int, it's just some fringe platforms don't agree on sizing.

Hell even the old days of assembly support a DWORD which is... An int

[trim matrix]

you are right, but the size can be different and that's the problem

[thin panther]

You're really over thinking this

It isn't a problem

[trim matrix]

Am I?

[thin panther]

Yes

[trim matrix]

🥲

[faint pasture]

Just stick to that and call it a day

[trim matrix]

I don't want to make the same mistakes I made before..

[thin panther]

I've yet to see a single case of it happening that wasn't like "I had a bug on this old bit of satellite embedded hardware I found in my garage, because it assumes an int was 8 bits."

[faint pasture]

you need explicitly sized types anyway for serialized or replicated properties, just use int32 etc and call it a day.

[trim matrix]

what about FMatrix

[last ingot]

In general, yeah. It's generally keeping track of the changes in code in a software.

[trim matrix]

I'm gonna search, thx guys

[faint pasture]

So just choose between SVN, Git, Perforce, Plastic, or whatever else, and use it.

I like Plastic but some people don't

[thin panther]

I'm personally team Git until you reach a size where Perforce is useful

[last ingot]

So if let's say I use GitHub for source control, and down the line of some tutorial I find online (as I've never applied this before), I would be able to have some form of a backup system to avoid situations with corruptions or errors as deadends, correct?

[elfin lagoon]

guys, coordinates in my case isn't real
how to fix it?

[stoic ledge]

@last ingot thats one feature source control provides

[last ingot]

Alright then, thank you.

[stoic ledge]

@last ingot btw, can you rebuild the file fix up redirectors, validate the asset on that character ?

[stoic ledge]

@elfin lagoon what do you mean "inst real?"

[elfin lagoon]

i mean "is wrong", sorry
widget spawns more right and down from the real mouse cursor position

[trim matrix]

show what ahppens

[visual crest]

Thats because the mouse cursor origin point is down and to the right

[trim matrix]

the widget*

[visual crest]

you can Add 1 or 3 pixels on Y and X to counter it

[elfin lagoon]

how it can be?

[trim matrix]

Is it close or really off?

[visual crest]

If I am right it should be close

[stoic ledge]

@elfin lagoon

[elfin lagoon]

close, like 50 pixels

[visual crest]

0o did no know abut that node

[trim matrix]

what did you put in the Absolute Desktop Coordinate?

[stoic ledge]

@elfin lagoon

[visual crest]

Any way I have a problem where I have a section of my game that sets global time Dilation to 0.1 but some of my UI uses delay nods to allows things to have time to load properly. Is there a delay node that works off of how many frames have passed or some thing? I was told that timers are not effected by time Dilation and made this but it IS being effected by time dilation

[elfin lagoon]

with this node i have additional effect
in a top-left corner its still close
but when i move a cursor more right and down, widget spawns even far from cursor in this direction

[stoic ledge]

the way i make my widgets go to where i have my mouse is kind of tricky.

@elfin lagoon But basically i use this function to et the position

[stoic ledge]

@elfin lagoon

@elfin lagoon

[elfin lagoon]

what is "parent slot" and "requested position"?
sorry, its new to me

[stoic ledge]

Its just a name ive given the variable. but its a 'Canvas Panel' plugged into the 'Slot as Cavas Slot' function, that is used as the target of the 'Set Position' function.

@elfin lagoon essentically it would be the canvas panel, used in the widget of your mouse postion thing

@elfin lagoon not sure of your widget design either

[elfin lagoon]

ok, what is "requested position" then?
am i going right way?

[stoic ledge]

#blueprint message

[elfin lagoon]

but i dont set any position here?

[trim matrix]

💀

[stoic ledge]

@elfin lagoon #blueprint message
instead of plugging in the print string, pulg in the 'In position' node.

[elfin lagoon]

it spawns in the top-left corner with errors now

[visual crest]

I am desperately trying to make a timer that is not effected by global time dilation this atempt just gives me infenant loop error. Some one pleas help! It cant be this hard to make a nod that is not effected by time dilation!!!!!!

[trim matrix]

I just don't see how that would ever work cuz maccro are a thing made for fast speed and just go through and get out... not waiting or smt

[visual crest]

no macros can use delays that one thing they do that functions don't

[stoic ledge]

@elfin lagoon quick question first, is your anchor point of your widget offset by the ammount your mouse position was missing by?

@elfin lagoon I think your error perviously was caused by a slotting issue, you may need to wrap your 'Canvas Panel Rmw' In another canvas panel, so that it can become "slotted"

[remote meteor]

unfortunately it cant be done easily with just bp, you could use a Timeline though, a Timeline as an option to ignore time dilation.

[cyan moon]

quick question as i'm kinda new to arrays, how can I analyse every single pixels of an image if I know the pixels dimentions of that picture?

[elfin lagoon]

anchor is top-left
so, maybe

[stoic ledge]

@cyan moon you want to add pixel colour values to an array per pixal?

[visual crest]

Ok ill try that

[cyan moon]

no, I just want to check if a color is present in my image by analysing every pixels. Also, maybe there is a better way to do that?

i've done that but it is shitty laggy

[dawn gazelle]

That's basically like an infinite loop

[cyan moon]

why XD

how can i stop it ?

[dawn gazelle]

when the first loop finishes, you're calling the second loop which then calls the first loop each iteration

[visual crest]

you can use time lines in UI!!! so that don't help

[cyan moon]

wich is what i want

[dawn gazelle]

No it isn't, guaranteed.

[cyan moon]

i want the code to check first line, then second, then third, then the 253 others lines then STOP

But it doesn't stop XD

[dawn gazelle]

Because it's an infinite loop

[cyan moon]

how ca ni make it stop then

wow

How can i make it stop then *

better

[dawn gazelle]

Don't have the second loop (which you technically don't even need seeing as it's only a single value you seem to care about) call back to the first loop.

You can't keep executing forever.

[cyan moon]

but i need to check the 256 Y lines too

not just the X ones

[dawn gazelle]

You have two arrays here. Each with a single value.

[cyan moon]

yeah

[dawn gazelle]

You're looping through the first array and when you finish looping through that, you're then going to the second array, looping through that and having it call the first loop again so then when the first loop finishes again, it calls to the second loop, which calls to the first, which when completed calls to the second, which calls to the first.

[remote meteor]

oh in UI? i believe Ticks and Delays in UI doesnt get affected by dilation

[visual crest]

Datura you are brilliant I have a problem where I have a section of my game that sets global time Dilation to 0.1 but some of my UI uses delay nods to allows things to have time to load properly or flash briefly

[visual crest]

I know thats the problem !!

[stoic ledge]

@cyan moon a break loop with the condition of 'IsRed'

[remote meteor]

oh you want it to get affected?

[visual crest]

not effected

[dawn gazelle]

If you have two arrays, you probably want to nest one in the other, but not use the completed to connect back to either.

Loop1 (X) > Loop1 (Y) > Check X and Y value from Loops

Comlpeted> Do something (not call back to the loops)

[remote meteor]

you can use a Tick to calculate

tick in UI are not affected by time dilation

[visual crest]

ok how do I do that?

[dawn gazelle]

I haven't really messed with time dilation :/

[visual crest]

OMG THANK YOU!!!

[remote meteor]

if the delay only appears after the time dilation is set

you can use that

if the dilation changes while the delay is running, then you cant

[cyan moon]

@dawn gazelle I don't think you understand my problem. Or do I? I want to Check the whole first line of my picture. Then, I want My (Y) to go by 1 up. Then, I check all of my (X) again. Then Go up by 1 on the (Y) and so on

[lunar sleet]

lol

[cyan moon]

how can i do that without destroying my game every time?😂

[versed sun]

Does a Timer respect time dilation ?

[remote meteor]

yeah

[dawn gazelle]

Also, using delays to wait for things to be ready is generally not a great idea. There's no guarantee that other people's hardware will handle the instructions in the same amount of time. It's usually better to set up those things when they become ready, or have those things listen for something to tell them that they are ready.

[vivid notch]

Does blueprints have a built in clear array or do I have to do it with a for loop manually?

[lunar sleet]

Type Clear

[vivid notch]

Don't see it somehow

[lunar sleet]

Are you dragging from the array’s pin?

[visual crest]

Yes but those things are on delays to check if load is done like this

[remote meteor]

🤔

[vivid notch]

where did it go

[remote meteor]

what loading are we doing

that is a Control Rig?

[vivid notch]

Ah maybe it's not available in control rig yup^^

[lunar sleet]

Yeah, seems to be a common occurrence

[vivid notch]

yooo

[visual crest]

like is player valid, inventory valid, stuff like that. Its all stuff that spawns but has no signal when it is actually valid yet

[stoic ledge]

@cyan moon If u can use a break loop, and a delay, so you dont compute it as fast as possile?

[visual crest]

also for flashing UI I us delays

[dawn gazelle]

You want to check every pixel in an image.
X = Vertical
Y = Horizontal
Let's say you had a 1024x1024 image...

You want to check (1, 1) first....
Loop (X) 1 > Loop (Y) 1 > Read Pixel Value
Now, the second loop will need to iterate itself first. So then the next iteration will be
Loop (X) 1 > Loop (Y) 2 > Read Pixel Value
....
Etc until you reach the last horizontal pixel
Loop (X) 1 > Loop (Y) 1024 > Read Pixel Value
Now that you've reached the end, that second loop will complete, so the first loop iterates to the next and it'll restart the second loop.
Loop (X) 2 > Loop (Y) 1 > Read Pixel Value
Now the second loop is iterating again...
Loop (X) 2 > Loop (Y) 2 > Read Pixel Value
Loop (X) 2 > Loop (Y) 3 > Read Pixel Value
....
Loop (X) 2 > Loop (Y) 1024 > Read Pixel Value

So now it'll keep going until Loop (X) = 1024.... whcih means eventually your loops will reach:
Loop (X) 1024 > Loop Y (1024) > Read Pixel Value

[cyan moon]

that's exactly what i want yeah

like that?

[dawn gazelle]

No more infinite loop

[remote meteor]

usually you dont want to use delays for stuff like this, its creating a condition racing nightmare
instead you want to make use of event dispatcher to know when anything is ready

for example, if your ui needs to know about the character that is possessed by the owning player, it can get PossessedPawnChanged from OwningPlayer

[cyan moon]

you're right but it will read every pixels? won't they just loop at the same time?

[lunar sleet]

Did you try or are you speculating?

[remote meteor]

an example would be something like this

[stoic ledge]

@cyan moon every time it goes by 'x' its does every 'y'

[cyan moon]

okay thx

last question for tonight because ya'll look experimented, is there a way I can check EVERY color between two set colours?

[elfin lagoon]

ok, i'm getting mouse position another way now
but widget's position is not on the screen at all, somehow, i dont see him
why its dont work in this case, if mouse cursor position is getting correctly? (i use it to move pawns, so it's 100% working)

[dawn gazelle]

No.

[cyan moon]

uh

so i'm fucked XD

[stoic ledge]

yes

[dawn gazelle]

Are you wanting to check if the color of a pixel is a specific of one of two colors? Sure.

[cyan moon]

no

[stoic ledge]

like is it betwwen red and green?

[cyan moon]

I want to check if the color of a pixel is between light gray and white

[cyan moon]

yeah

[dawn gazelle]

What if it's light red?

[cyan moon]

I removed red and green from picture so I have a Black and white picture

[dawn gazelle]

Ok.. That's possible then

[dawn gazelle]

I believe Linear Color uses HSV values.

V = How "white" it is.

1 = fully white

0 = fully black

[cyan moon]

huh

[remote meteor]

Hue
Saturation
Values

[dawn gazelle]

Oh sorry, you're using just a "Color" structure on that one node.

[cyan moon]

I'm really bad at this exact part of unreal engine XD

[cyan moon]

oh

and then what i do with that?😂

i see where we go

but what function to compare

[cyan moon]

yeah i have that

but how i compare a linear color to a "between two colors"

[dawn gazelle]

There we go

[ripe comet]

sorry i fell asleep, the interface is being called from within the door class, and the door that calls it is being assigned to the spawn door input

[dawn gazelle]

Now you can check what the "V" value is

1 = White
0 = Black

Anything in between is some shade of grey.

[stoic ledge]

was the anchor point not the issue?

[cyan moon]

okay thx

[trim matrix]

'Every class that is parented to UObject in any way, will need to be created with CreateDefaultSubobject (in the constructor) OR NewObject (at run time)',
Is that correct guys?

[cyan moon]

huh

[remote meteor]

more or less, except for particle/actors have their own creation function

[trim matrix]

well I know the one for actors but what is it for particle?

[cyan moon]

it's supposed to print "Hello" if it detects a grayto white color right?

but it does nothing

[dawn gazelle]

= 0 would basically print all

[remote meteor]

you usually want to use the function library such as UNiagaraFunctionLibrary::SpawnSystemAttached

[stoic ledge]

i donno that it is, because when u ran it, it had the error of a none value.

[dawn gazelle]

You're also only checking the very first pixel

[cyan moon]

yeah that's what i think also

[trim matrix]

oh okk, I've only heard of SpawnEmitterAtLocation before

[cyan moon]

just a single hello

[trim matrix]

I'll check it out

[remote meteor]

Niagara and Cascade have entirely different spawning methods, be mindful which particle system you are using.

[elfin lagoon]

dont know, sorry
i get mouse coordinates another way, so there's another issue

[trim matrix]

ok thx, I've never used Cascade, I think

[remote meteor]

usually when you see "Emitter" it is Cascade, Niagara uses "System" to describe the particle effect

[trim matrix]

BP >>> C++ Community

[dawn gazelle]

You'd need to plug these into the last index of "For Loop"s rather than using "For Each Loop"s.

[stoic ledge]

should be easy to check, if u had it set up the way u had it at first, and just centered the anchor point in the desinger?

[cyan moon]

okay

it is lagging enough that i think it is working 😂

[stoic ledge]

@elfin lagoon is your cast failing? are you getting values in your print string?

[cyan moon]

working

[dawn gazelle]

Also, just so you're aware....
There are two colors in this image. One is black, the other is 1 value above black. Your code right now if checking if the pixel is > 0.0 would return true.

[indigo dome]

Anyone know how to get the target for the Blue Print Interface for a animation blueprint?

[trim matrix]

I thought there was supposed to be smt in it... sorry lol 😂

[cyan moon]

yeah but it doesn't really matter as my golf ball is the only white thing in view

[dawn gazelle]

There is 😉

[trim matrix]

sure

[dawn gazelle]

Your render target is only capturing the golf ball?

[cyan moon]

ye

well

no

i'll show when my game come back to life

[elfin lagoon]

i set widget position manually to x=500 y=200 and clicking here to test
looks like coordinates get x= -200 y= -500 and reversed somehow

[cyan moon]

captured scene

golfball detection

[dawn gazelle]

Ok, but everything in that image is giong to be > 0.0

There's likely no black in it.

[cyan moon]

not greater than 0.05

[trim matrix]

oof, Is this ui just 1 image? If so, that's not the way of doing it, it would be pretty hard to get right

[cyan moon]

i changed the value no worry

[remote meteor]

can you repeat what that is supposed to be? ground indicator?

[dawn gazelle]

Everything brighter than this is > 0.05

[cyan moon]

ok

oh*

i need 0.95 XD

just pretty quick also, is there a way i can reduce lag caused by the loops?

[remote meteor]

make those loop in cpp 😂

[elfin lagoon]

i need to spawn a widget in a mouse-click point
thats all

[remote meteor]

in the world space? or the screen space

[cyan moon]

I have difficulties in bp... Imagine in cpp XD

[elfin lagoon]

at the screen

[dawn gazelle]

This is what would be detected with 0.95

What I'm trying to convey, is that whatever "value" you're trying to detect can vary greatly with what is in the image. If any part of the scene is bright, then it won't reliably know where the ball is. The above could work ok, but it doesn't really give you the lower bounds of the ball, if that's what you were hoping for as well.

And if you keep turning down the "sensitivity" for your detection, more noise could be entering in from the background.

[trim matrix]

try 0.88

[cyan moon]

how you found that?

[cyan moon]

yeah

[dusty zealot]

Hi ! do you know where to use pose search normalization sets for motion matching ?

[dawn gazelle]

.88

[trim matrix]

we are close!!!

[dawn gazelle]

Using photoshop and math

[cyan moon]

feel kinda good

[cyan moon]

oh ok

[trim matrix]

it's not even you doing it LOL

[cyan moon]

XD

I'll have copyrights at the end XD

[cyan moon]

0.85?

(please)😂

((last one))

[elfin lagoon]

ok, i return to first way to get a mouse cursor, and create additional canvas wrapper
i try to set another anchor, but widger is always spawned down-right from the cursor

[dawn gazelle]

Note the artifact

[cyan moon]

yeah

[stoic ledge]

in the desinger center the anchor

[cyan moon]

and it's not better

less details

do you think i can tehoricaly track that golfball in movement with this much shown?

[dawn gazelle]

It would heavily depend on the scene it is in.

[remote meteor]

if its to the screen, you can just use PlayerController->GetMousePosition and minus the desired size of the widget to set as viewport position

[cyan moon]

aight thx very much man you helped me so much

[dawn gazelle]

Like, here's a random from an image off of google.

Using that same .85 value

[cyan moon]

yeah too much artifacts

[dawn gazelle]

Here's another with a little bit of shading on the ball (golf club on the left)

[trim matrix]

we are cooked 🐒

[cyan moon]

wow

[vivid notch]

How do I add a prefix to a name in blueprints?

[dawn gazelle]

Like manipulating the name of the blueprint itself, or adding more characters to a Name variable?

[vivid notch]

adding more characters to a name variable

[cyan moon]

what I need to figure now :
-How to track the ball through different images
-How to record Video And play it frame by frame
-how to determine angle of the shot
-How to determine speed of the shot
-How to calculate accurate Trajectory of the shot
-How not to giveup this project like every others

long list

[vivid notch]

I am spawning rig controls by blueprint and I want to add an fk_ prefix to each spawned control

[trim matrix]

not very long bro

[vivid notch]

so like a bone name of hand_r would have a control of name fk_hand_r

[dawn gazelle]

What's the node to spawn them in? I've never messed with them before but I can try and see what I can find

[cyan moon]

gl XD

[faint pasture]

Tracking the ball is 1000% the hardest part

https://xkcd.com/1425/

xkcd: Tasks

In the 60s, Marvin Minsky assigned a couple of undergrads to spend the summer programming a computer to use a camera to identify objects in a scene. He figured they'd have the problem solved by the end of the summer. Half a century later, we're still working on it.

[vivid notch]

It is spawned under a rig hierarchy. I am able to spawn controls I'm just having trouble adding a prefix to a name type

Here's what I have so far

[cyan moon]

yeah that's what i think also

[dawn gazelle]

So, this isn't really blueprints perse. In blueprint code, you'd normally be able to use an "append" node with a string.

[vivid notch]

Yeah I should've mentioned that it's control rig so different from regular blueprints

[cyan moon]

but I might have smt

I make an average of the pixels groupment. I compare those averages over frames and compare their distance from the first frame

kinda simple in theory

[faint pasture]

How good of a camera are you working with?

What does the ball look like after a hit, just a blurry streak?

[cyan moon]

maybe XD

[elfin lagoon]

ok, looks like major issue was lack of additional canvas wrapper
now i have only minor widget offset, when i spawn him at the right side of a screen (like 10 pixels)
so i need to figure out how to set both of an anchors, image and canvas
and where is this little offset come from

[cyan moon]

a cellphone with 30 fps XD

i might be able to go to 260 fps

[vivid notch]

You posted that just as I found that same node lol

Yes that's gotta be it

[remote meteor]

why are the names not consistent to blueprint counterparts is out of my league 🤷‍♂️

those names they use are literally string operator in C

[faint pasture]

Yeah good luck lol

[cyan moon]

samsung are kinda good at high fps cameras

[faint pasture]

Have you taken a video yet?

[cyan moon]

960 fps to be exact

not yet XD

but in theory

it works

[remote meteor]

those are slomo..

[cyan moon]

1 sec max normally because it makes a 45 sec video but i think i don't need any longer than that

and just a few frames where you see the ball

[faint pasture]

You trying to do something like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Oh4eJhtBE

[cyan moon]

yeah i have a samsung

that's why i'm doing this little project

I'm sad i don't have an apple rn

[faint pasture]

it's far from little, this is research group or super genius territory to get it anywhere near accurate IMO

If you can get good automated ball tracking though, the rest is easy

[cyan moon]

yeah

but sometime little genious with the help of community drop masterclass

[cyan moon]

community effort is way more efficient than a small group of genious

look at minecraft

community developped algorythms to find an exact seed from billion of millions of them in no time compared to a small group of genious

anyway thxx to everyone and good night

[stoic ledge]

there?

[elfin lagoon]

nope
was here, need to be false
thank you, looks like all is fine now
it was rough

[ripe comet]

the moment i stop using interfaces to pass variables everything works

stand corrected, removed the test door and instantly game crashed lmao

[graceful sage]

What are you trying to do

[ripe comet]

randomly generating door spawns another exit door randomly, and allows traveling between the 2

currently

all it does is allow you to go, it spawns the exit door

but when you try to come back it cant find the refrence to the og door

[graceful sage]

Plugging in the value off begin play doesn't make sense

Set it as a variable then plug that variable in

[ripe comet]

set what as a variable

here ill make a quick recording since taking 100 screenshots and explaining it is gonna take forever lol

[graceful sage]

I get it it's fine

When you begin play promote the transform and ref to character as a variable

Then get the variable and plug into the set transform

[ripe comet]

it crashed and undid all that lol

[graceful sage]

Give me 40 minutes my break over

[ripe comet]

kk

[graceful sage]

Just pass the character through the interface

[ripe comet]

thats what i did

here ill revert it

[graceful sage]

You're passing a variable from a different event

The beginplay and interface don't fire at same time

Brb

[ripe comet]

all g respond when you can ill just put what i can here

[ripe comet]

thats just getting the player to relocate them

[dawn gazelle]

Part of the problem is when you're calling these events. If you happen to call "Interacted" before you called "Spawnroom" then you won't have a value stored in "Spawn Door".

And that's also the folly of crossing pins across executions. You may think you're reading a value when it hasn't actually been set.

[ripe comet]

even if the "interacted" is only being called on the EXIT door after the spawnroom was called?

interacted on door crates the exit door, THEN the spawnroom is called

then after that is when you would interact on the exit door

[dawn gazelle]

Spawnroom is called on which door?

[ripe comet]

entrance door

"door" is the class name

[dawn gazelle]

Ok, but then the code above is using "Interact" on the exit door, right?

[ripe comet]

not untill you manually press it on the created exit door

[dawn gazelle]

This here is where you're having the problem, right? This is on the exit door?

[ripe comet]

thats the part that "works"

this part, as far as i can tell litterally isnt ever even being called

[dawn gazelle]

That's what I'm saying.

Are you calling Spawnroom on the exit door?

If not, and you're calling "Interact" on the exit door, then you've never called to it in order to set a value so the "interact" event can use it.

[ripe comet]

both are being called in "door"

the interact on door is also calling "spawnroom" at the end of the chain

AFTER the exit door has been created

[dawn gazelle]

Are you feeding it a reference to the actual instance of the exit door?

[ripe comet]

the "exit door" is supposed to get a refrence to "door"

[dawn gazelle]

Ok, but the target of the interface call, are you calling it on "self" or the spawned "Exit Door" reference?

[ripe comet]

its being sent IN "door" with a self refrence, then spawnroom is being the receiver of said interface call, carrying the self door refrence

"door" is calling, "exit door" is receiving that call

[dawn gazelle]

Can you show the code of "door" calling the spawnroom interface?

[dawn gazelle]

It's calling the interface on self

[dawn gazelle]

Interface doesn't communicate to all things that implement it.

[ripe comet]

idk whats up with that, i never added that node

and my other one doesnt have it

[dawn gazelle]

"Self" here means you're attempting to call the "Spawnroom" interface on "Door".

So assuming your "Exit Door" reference is valid, then you should only need to connect this up here, then the exit door would receive that message.

I dunno if this changes any other logic you may have implemented with "Spawnroom" on "Door" tho

or if this may impact how "ExitDoor" responds either.

[dawn gazelle]

ah you'll need to change the call of the interface

look for "Spawnroom (Message)"

Should be able to find it if you drag off from the Exit door and start typing

[ripe comet]

moment of truth

nope

still trying to acess none

[dawn gazelle]

Can you screenshot the error message?

[ripe comet]

i put a string here and its not printing

[dawn gazelle]

After spawning "Generator" where we connected "Exit Door" to call the interface, try printing the display name of "ExitDoor".

[ripe comet]

like this?

[dawn gazelle]

Yep

[ripe comet]

that worked

[dawn gazelle]

Not sure what to tell you then.... If this thing has a valid value and implements the "GenerateDungeon" interface, then this bit here should be getting called on your "ExitDoor" blueprint for that particular instance of "ExitDoor".

[ripe comet]

we love programming

uuhhhg such is life

[dawn gazelle]

Ah wait...

[ripe comet]

hmm?

[dawn gazelle]

is "exit Door" a "Child Actor Component"?

[ripe comet]

dah

[dawn gazelle]

Yep.

You need to use "Get Child Actor" from this.

[ripe comet]

plug that into target?

[dawn gazelle]

yep

The log kinda clued me in once I re-read it. It seemed "off" 😛

[ripe comet]

lmao

now its not teleporting me to the building

i wonder if its calling it too fast now?

and just inta tp back

waaaaait

lmao im just a dumbah i forgot to relink generate and spawnroom

yes it works

holy HELL man i love you

[edgy axle]

why doesn't unreal natively support rotated capsules

I can't just make a horizontal capsule for my pawn

cause if I try set the capsule as the root then it snaps back upright

[dawn gazelle]

When dealing with "Character", it has integration with the CMC and the CMC assumes you're using a vertical capsule collider as the root for the Character.

[edgy axle]

nah it's a custom pawn

[dawn gazelle]

Custom pawn then it shouldn't matter I'd think.

You should be able to do whatever you want with it.

[edgy axle]

UE just doesn't allow rotated components as the root

it resets the rotation

so I gotta make a custom c++ capsule that has a rotation variable to actually use it

[dawn gazelle]

Rotate before making it root?

[sharp python]

The problem is that you can't rotate it after you make it root, and a character capsule starts out as root

[dawn gazelle]

They're using a custom pawn, so they're in control of it.

[edgy axle]

as I said, it resets the rotation when you set it to the root

[dawn gazelle]

My screenshot shows otherwise

[edgy axle]

and I need it as the root to properly move the character

[edgy axle]

try loading into the game with that pawn, it'll be rotated

that's a visual error

or you could just reload the blueprint editor

[dawn gazelle]

Ah gotcha

Sorry, out of ideas :/

[edgy axle]

dw bout it I was just complaining