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void coyote
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Hello, I'm learning my way around animations and I have a trouble with crouching interpolation (following the FPS tutorial).
The issue is that when the character stops he still plays the crouch walking for ward animation for a moment. What is basically happening looks like the blending does the L shape instead of going diagonally to the idle animation. I'm not sure how to fix that one though

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Interpolation is set to 1 on both axes

sudden sedge
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there's not much you can really do to fix that without a "halt" animation

void coyote
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I think what I might need to ease the speed value in the animation graph. Basically the reported speed goes from 300 to 0 instantly, so the animation does not follow the way you expect it when messing our ind the blendspace

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yeah, it seems to be it. The animation interpoles to the points, but it does not use the inbetween speed and direction values, that is why the walking forward keeps playing.

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How can I ease between A and B in the animation graph? It does not have the timeline function

void coyote
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ok, so to get the smooth animation that you can achieve in the blend space I would have to manually (via blueprint) transition between the speed values as well direction values. This way the animation BP will be told the inbetween speed and direction values that will be used for playing the animation. Instead of being told to play animation of 300 speed left and then instantly to play 0 speed idle.

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I just need to figure out a way to get a lerp/ease working in the animation blueprint

void coyote
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derp

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I used wrong node for getting the character velocity. I used the vector length squared by mistake

misty dagger
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Hey, does anyone know how I can make it to where certain moves that my character can do only play while in the air? I have this dive attack and some air fighting moves for my character that should only be able to be played while suspended in mid-air, and also a forward air boost, but I don't exactly know how to make this happen.

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I'm using blueprints by the way. I'm working on a prototype

restive yew
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Look into animation montage

misty dagger
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What do you mean @restive yew ?

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What is that? And how do I make it work for the player in-game, kind of like how super smash bros has certain attacks in the air.

restive yew
misty dagger
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Thank you!

gentle pagoda
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I'm trying to synchronize animations between two characters

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It's a human riding a camel - the camel's animation is driven through a blend space by his locomotion, the human is simply looping an idle

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If they're dragged in as skeletal meshes, the animations sync up perfectly

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But as anim BP's, they're always out of sync

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I've tried manually adding a loop offset to either the human or the mount, but to no avail

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Is there a proper way of synchronizing animations between two characters?

clever abyss
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The easiest way would be with sequencer?

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But It all comes down to, how exactly should It be done?

thorn tendon
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Can anyone give me advice on making a 2D scripted sequence? I am using the sequencer but I can't use flipbooks to show movement animation

fleet willow
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How can i move the CapsuleComponent to the following position when i play an Animation Sequence ?

misty dagger
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I'm kinda confused. How does animation montages make it to where I can only use certain attacks/animations while mid-air? I can't find any recent videos on it so I can't find anything that's really helpful. Like I said before there are certain attacks that I only want to be able to be used while mid-air and not touching the ground.

thorn tendon
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@misty dagger Sounds like you need a boolean with a branch

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I think there is a "IsFlying"

misty dagger
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What's that?

thorn tendon
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Get character movement and then search "IsFlying"

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OR

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SetMovementMode

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set it to flying when are in air

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Then set it to walking when your on the ground

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Its just to tell the engine that your character is in the air, so play the proper animation if in the air

misty dagger
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Oh okay, thank you! How do I set that up in the inputs menu in the project settings? So let's say I want the attack to only be able to happen when I'm in the air and press S + Right Click. Do I just put Right Click under actions and the set it up in the blueprint that you can only do it in air and when also pressing right click, or what?

thorn tendon
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Its not in project settings. I would set that action up in your PlayerCharacter (whatever your main player will be playing)

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Or rather the Animation bp. Im not really skilled enough to help you farther.

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If it's crucial to your project, pay someone some bucks to get it done

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I have to shell some money out from time to time

misty dagger
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Eh, I don't really have the money to do that personally, so I'd rather just learn how to do it, at least that way I understand how to do it in the future XD

thorn tendon
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For sure. My programmer dude rips through stuff and my head is spinning when I watch him haha. IF I do it myself though it sticks. I know what you mean

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Even if you pay for an hour at a reasonable rate, it can really help you move forward on your project and ease some stress

lofty sphinx
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How do I make an animation play longer than usual/extend its duration?

pastel bone
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Slow down playrate

lofty sphinx
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@pastel bone This animation is used in a Blendspace; it is not a Blendspace proper. I need to extend it because I want it to loop much more smoothly.

bleak mirage
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New to animation here 😬 can anyone tell me if armature and rigging are the same thing

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And if all animated models should use bones? I just have a basic light switch that consists of two meshes and the switch itself has an animation that rotates it up and down to turn the switch on or off

viscid sand
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I only know how to implement them now

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xD

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and make them work

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currently working on the dying animation

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to work

restive yew
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@bleak mirage armature and rig are more or less the same thing and often used interchangeably. No, you don’t need bones to make animations. You can use morph target, material, and the bp itself (look into timeline node).

bleak mirage
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i've used the timeline node before for animating door open/closing

restive yew
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@viscid sand in your world setting, check your z kill

bleak mirage
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so just to confirm, if i combine mesh on import to ue4, i cannot animate individual static meshes since it's been combined right?

restive yew
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Correct

bleak mirage
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Okay so maybe I should just split my fbx into two static meshes and make a blueprint class containing both static meshes and use a timeline to animate the static mesh that needs to be animated

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Either way I’ll need to blueprint class to handle state to determine if the switch is in the up or down position

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Basically to simplify things in just trying to figure out the “best” way to go about animating a light switch

restive yew
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You can export multiple elements in one file. How it’s done is varied from program to program

bleak mirage
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So the player can turn the switch on and off

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Oh yea but basically I don’t want to combine them on ue4 import

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I can have 1 fbx but when I import into ue4 I’ll leave combine off so I’ll end up with two static meshes and throw them both in an actor blueprint and timeline to animate the switch

restive yew
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Yep, you’re set 😜

bleak mirage
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awesome thanks

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and do you think this is a smarter route than rigging a light switch? 😆 @restive yew

viscid sand
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some crouching now xD

hoary kindle
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is it possible to make an animation with the levelsequencer where a bird flies to my third person character and lands on a slot (eg. shoulder)?

viscid sand
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probably yeah

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if you make a "bird object" hit a volume that's attached on your shoulder

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but it's too complicated for me

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xD

hoary kindle
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😄

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i guess it would look like a bollywood action movie when i try to do something like this but it would be cool :§

viscid sand
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xD

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Never stop trying

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I didn't think I could get the stamina bar to drain and refill while crouching

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still managed to do it somehow xD

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even when it's easy for others

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the only thing that annoys me is the fact that while you are crouched and you release the crouch button while still holding down the shift button nothing happens only after you press and hold shift again

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which isn't too annoying but still stupid

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also jumping doesn't drain anything yet

sudden sedge
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his feet sliding looks odd, and doesn't feel like it's got weight behind the punch (unless it's a quick jab then that's fine)

sweet tartan
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It's supposed to be the weakest punch there is, like the first hit of a combo

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How would you fix the feet sliding though?

viscid sand
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got the stamina bar to work now

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finally

night crow
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hey, what do people use for face rigging and creating blendshapes in the least time consuming way? can one create blendshapes with auto-rig pro for blender?

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don't have the budget to use polywink but otherwise i guess that would be a perfect option

undone tartan
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Usually you set up a joint / armature system for a face

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Most flexibility with the least amount of work

viscid sand
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Got this to work now 😄

restive yew
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I too get bamboozled when running into a box. Very nice.

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Does he ragdoll or are you sticking to sequence?

night crow
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@undone tartan and then you animate the face frame by frame?

undone tartan
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nope

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you set up a control system and animate it like anything else

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@night crow

night crow
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Hm okay, sorry I've only done motion capture so far so I don't know how this works

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Control system as in pulling a slider from closed mouth to open mouth? And closed eye to open eye, etc?

quasi mulch
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Hey everyone, I have a question, I am trying to export an animation with empty dummy objects in 3ds max, in unreal I want to create mesh sockets to attach a dynamic set of meshes to this animation. When I try to import however the import buttons in 3ds max are greyed out. I assume this is because there isnt any geo in the FBX?

viscid sand
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More progress 😄

viscid sand
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Got an animation problem now I think in the sprinting the weapon is basically far more to the left tried to adjust it but I'd like to do a second animation for the sprinting can't see how it works properly

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I know how to apply a mesh to the player character

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But not how to add a new one for the sprinting for this I would have to delete the old mesh idk

red marsh
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Hey guys so i imported a few animations into UE4 from blender and the hands are slightly out of sync with the gun and im not sure whats causing it. i baked animations then removed the constraints but they are still slightly out of sync

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but it works perfectly fine in blender so i dont know whats going on

restive yew
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check frame rate in blender and play rate in ue4

red marsh
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yeah the issue still persists i had setup the gun and the arms as one skeleton. ive seen an issue thats almost similar where someone used dummies and hae 2 seperate pieces of animation that ran alongside each other.

plucky bough
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Anyone here who's been able to convert a Mixamo animation to the UE Mannequin?

restive yew
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Or just reweigh the mesh to the mixamo rig

plucky bough
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Thank you

main seal
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@sweet tartan that kick looks bit awkward, seems like he would fall over. CoG seems off.

sweet tartan
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How would you fix it @main seal ?

main seal
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I'm not an animator, so my technical knowhow is nil, but when kicking you're doing to want to try to have your torso and supporting leg as lined up as possible

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I'm not sure if your animating for more of a stylized fighting style, but I assumed it was fairly realistic since the punch looks much more controlled and purposeful by comparison.

mint wind
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that's quite the crouch

stoic plaza
trim stream
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Is there any way to offset an animation? I've got a wagon with two horses infront and they play their animations at the same speed/time and it looks kinda weird.

river meteor
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@stoic plaza That's happening because you're not supposed to do that. Use inverse kinematics to adjust the hand positions

stoic plaza
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@river meteor Ok. I will look into how to do that. Thank you.

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Do I do that in blender or in engine?

river meteor
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In engine

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It's a runtime adjustment to match the hands to a grip point on the weapon

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Take a look at the content examples animation map, there's a few examples there

sweet tartan
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@main seal yes it's definitely meant to be stylized and pretty anime.

stoic plaza
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@river meteor thanks much, appreciate the advice.

wraith lion
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guys

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does control rig work

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or is it horrendously broken?

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ive been trying to get it to work for ages with no luck

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we just wanna make some fairly simple anims for our workers

sweet tartan
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Control rig? What is that..?

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@wraith lion

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You mean the ART tool or something?

wraith lion
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to be fair its an experimental feature

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its a way of making new animations inside UE4

sweet tartan
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Could you show it to me?

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o,o

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Link please?

wraith lion
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instead of having to take them out to blender etc

sweet tartan
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This sounds good!

wraith lion
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I know right! lol

sweet tartan
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UE would be the ultimate if you could animate inside of it.

wraith lion
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that why im trying to get it to work

sweet tartan
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Show me a link pls?

sweet tartan
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I'm an animator, just made this a second ago

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thanks

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OK the control rig thing looks nothing like Maya.

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I think if they made it like maya a bit it would be a lot nicer..

wraith lion
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yeah

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right now i just dont think its functional

sweet tartan
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I fixed the above animation

molten vector
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I am making animations in blender and then implementing them into ue4

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does anybody know if you are able to implement several animations per mesh

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so there is a walking running and idle animation

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i am not sure how to do it

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so in the same blender project on the same person i have two animations will that import correctly into ue4

restive yew
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@molten vector use the nla editor in blender to define animation sequences.

molten vector
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i am not totally sure what that is

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i am pretty new to blender

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@restive yew

restive yew
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With that editor, you'll be able to have multiple animations within a file that'll separate into animation sequences when importing it to unreal. If I'm understanding your goal correctly

void coyote
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How can I sync animations of multiple characters for stuff like grabs and melee, so the animation can be modified by input, attributes and such. I'm mostly interested in characters lining up together without spazzing out or clipping.
I'm not exactly sure what is the phrase I'm looking for.

untold gale
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@sweet tartan it;s still a bit too stiff in alot of places

sweet tartan
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@untold gale

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This guy's torso doesn't bend at all.

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This was the reference

untold gale
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watch your elbows 😄

sweet tartan
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Help me with this 😄

misty dagger
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Does anyone have any info on the new Animation Sharing plugin in 4.22?

glad plaza
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as a broke person, where or what sort of book should i buy to learn animation? Instead of $10,000 college fees?

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just a human movement animation

molten vector
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I have an animation from blender and when i import it it says there are too many root bones how do i fix.

sweet tartan
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@glad plaza I think videos and not books. I'm self taught and have a lot to learn but it's cheaper than college.

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I'm going to school for something else while I learn animation at home.

molten vector
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Can anyone help me?

sweet tartan
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You have more than one bone named root I take it? Delete one if you can or rename it, I think. Not sure.

molten vector
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I don't have a bone named root bone

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I have IK bones

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But i have no boned named root

robust swallow
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name doesn't matter, it just means there is more than one hierarchy in the root.
like

bone01
    bone02
bone03
    bone04
mesh```
untold gale
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@sweet tartan keep him in IK for that pose, hands need to be planted

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arcs are everything in animation

sweet tartan
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Arcs?

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His stupid hands forcibly change. I'm thinking it could be a rigging issue too.

molten vector
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What do i habe to do to fix it? @robust swallow

robust swallow
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i beleive you can make a dummy bone, at the root, and put the mesh and the other bones under it

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so toplevel is just one object

molten vector
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But where is the root?

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Which bone is root

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I used mixamo to rig it

somber urchin
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any one know how you set up IK bones for a rig?

solar gyro
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First, anyone successfully export animations from blender(2.80) into UE4, second, would you keep the meshes joined as one object, but seperate meshes or keep objects as seperate meshes and export/inport it as seperate skeletal meshes and joind them as individual objects with their own skeletal meshes....or what?

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This is for a rifle.

sweet tartan
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When everyone has questions but no answers.

viscid sand
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@solar gyro make sure the thing you made in blender is exported as a .fbx

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unreal engine likes fbx 😃

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and I would export the skeletal mesh seperated from your rifle

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because later on you need to add the rifle mesh

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and attach it to your character with a socket

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you can create this socket once you imported your character from blender to unreal engine choose "right hand " or "left hand" in the skeletal mesh, rightclick choose add socket

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name it "weapon"

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@sweet tartan no clue about your problem didn't do much rigging myself used mixamo animations most likely for my characters sorry

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I would help if I could

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I know blendspace stuffs though

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xD

misty dagger
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@sweet tartan make the animation more lifelike... the animations weight is all on the left side you gotta fix that

sweet tartan
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Of the pushup?

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What do you do to change weight to both sides?

solar gyro
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@viscid sand What I was wondering is should I join meshes that are seperate and make it one mesh (that is the rifle, with all the weight paints and excetra) and then import it into UE4 or should I leave it as seperate meshes and import them wiht their own seperate skeletal systems?

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right now the asset I have has them all as seperate, and a blueprint with them assembled, but they are static meshes, not skeletal meshes.

opal jackal
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Is there a way to copy/retarget Animation Blueprints for a nother skeleton. In my case I have a Paragon AnimBlueprint that I want to change to the Standard UE4 Mannequin character with his animations? Or do I need to just make a new one from scratch?

misty dagger
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Hi guys anyone know any blender? My model is acting a little weird, some parts of his body are attached to random bones.

river meteor
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@opal jackal Yes you can retarget an animation blueprint, it will retarget all of the sequences that are referenced in it as well.

opal jackal
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@river meteor Ok thanks. Now if I'm wanting to use the SameAnimBP but replace the skeleton and anims with new ones would I have to redo that from scratch? I'm wanting to keep the same system in place but use a different skeleton and animations.

tiny granite
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okay im not sure what im looking for, but i know that i have had to work with it in the past

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where you can split the skeletal mesh with groups or Slots and assign animations to the slot

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and so you can hold a torch with your hands but still walk around with bottom animations.

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what is that called and any videos you might recommend

river meteor
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@opal jackal Retarget then throw away the anim sequences it retargeted and replace them with your own

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Or create an anim bp base class that has the common functionality in it. Depends on your use case

tiny granite
misty dagger
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Hi peeps I have created a blender animation ( a mesh with a moving armature) and I am getting this error when I try to import. The imported mesh is invisible.

restive yew
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@misty dagger rename the rig in blender to anything BUT armature

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Also check your bones. Looks like one of them got zeroed out

misty dagger
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This anim needs a root track, it wont even import to ue4

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if u can do it that would be awesome

void coyote
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If anybody is interested: I made a new pose for Makehuman that mimics the default pose for the UE4 blender rig.

late dawn
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How do I get this simple hierarchial animation into Unreal from Max?

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I've watched tutorials. They all use "skeletal" import option, and that doesn't work here.

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what am I missing?

misty dagger
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@misty daggerdirector thank you. I have changed it so there is only one root (I think). I have other problems but they are blender specific

misty dagger
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The problem was actually that the characters' hands each had 100K+ faces each.... when they are only going to be a few pixels big in game... lol

restive yew
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That statement makes me weep

misty dagger
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yeah because i did a bevel modifier which made it look nice... and i thought repeat 12 times... but then i generate something like 2^12 faces

restive yew
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Mate. Just use smoothing group 😜

misty dagger
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ok will look into it ty

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😮 I only have to click one button and it looks 10 times better?

restive yew
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Yes

compact abyss
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is there a way to cut or trim an animation in a master sequencer?

fickle copper
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I got a question about importing animations if anyone could help I'd appreciate it.

restive yew
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@compact abyss if you right click on the animation timeline, you’ll get the option to delete frames

fickle copper
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I made a mesh, rig and Animations in Blender. Importing the Mesh works fine but I can't get the Rig or Animations to import. Gives me an error that it can't Create Asset or "Mesh contains bone as root but animation doesn't contain the root track". I've searched google and forums and can't find anything that works.

misty dagger
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How do I give an anim a root track that I can’t even import to UE4

restive yew
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That’s usually due to an bad bone hierarchy and attempting to import an empty animation

fickle copper
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How can you tell if you have bad bone hierarchy? And the animations move the model/Armature so how is it empty? I'm so confused @.@ lol

restive yew
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Make sure the bones are all parented to each other except the root bone. Whichever bone that may be

fickle copper
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Ohhh...that might be my issue. I don't have a separated bone as "the Root".

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I just followed a youtube tutorial for modeling and rigging, it was meant for unity so I guess that's what messed me up. How do I make a "root bone" then? Just add a random bone and have the mesh parented to it?

restive yew
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Yeah. Usually place it at 000 is the way to go

fickle copper
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Okay, I'll try that. Do I import the whole armature and mesh as one thing into UE4 or import the Mesh then the Armature separately? Sorry, I'm still a big noob at all this.

restive yew
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Keep them together

fickle copper
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I click the mesh then the bone and parent them right? Not the other way around?

restive yew
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Just add the bone in the rig in edit mode

fickle copper
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okay

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now it's claiming multiple roots

restive yew
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Check the all the bones parent

fickle copper
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the poll targets arent

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nor are the IK Bones

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But, they're not suppose to be parented right? Wont that screw up what they're suppose to do?

misty dagger
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So I've gotten my character to be able to use the run animation when moving, but there's a problem. When he runs forward he looks normal, because I made the animations facing forward, but when I try to run backwards he doesn't turn around, he just does he same running animation and it looks like he's moonwalking. I heard there was a way to turn him around whenever he runs backwards so that all of his movement and attack animations face that way, but I don't know how to do that. How do I get him to turn around whenever he runs to the left? The player camera is to the right of the character in this one, like the mario games.

nova oxide
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Hello!

I would like to ask a question regarding animation blueprints and custom animation notifies. The context is that I have a weapon with a fire animation. I want to play the gunsounds through a custom animation notify event, but somehow the sound is not playing when the notify is triggered. I have attached a picture below to show what I have did so far. I have set up the custom notify called FIRE and inside the animation blueprint's event grap I attached a PlaySoundatLocation node and set up the sound I would like to play. According to the documentation and some tutorials I have watched this is enough to make it work, but somehow it still doesn't play any sound. Just for some background information I try to use this with sequencer, so I have my gun there with the animation playing. I tried to play the animation while simulating is enabled but it has the same effect. If I attach the sound as a PlaySound notify directly in the animation its working fine, but using blueprint would make change settings and other stuff much more easier and time saving later on.

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Any help, suggestions or tips are welcome and appreciated. Thanks in advance!

misty dagger
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Maybe I am missing something, but your 'location' is just set to the origin?

nova oxide
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Should it affect the sound at all ?

restive yew
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Make an audio component in the bp itself. You can trigger it without worrying about setting location

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Or simple get actor location

misty dagger
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Just curious, does anyone have an answer to the question I posted earlier?

misty dagger
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This is the question in case you didn't know: So I've gotten my character to be able to use the run animation when moving, but there's a problem. When he runs forward he looks normal, because I made the animations facing forward, but when I try to run backwards he doesn't turn around, he just does he same running animation and it looks like he's moonwalking. I heard there was a way to turn him around whenever he runs backwards so that all of his movement and attack animations face that way, but I don't know how to do that. How do I get him to turn around whenever he runs to the left? The player camera is to the right of the character in this one, like the mario games.

fickle copper
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I'm not knowledgeable in UE4 that much but I do know there is a way to set it up through Blueprints to flip the direction the character is facing and flip all animations accordingly through a directional button being pressed.

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Look up a way of doing it on youtube or through forums. All I can suggest @misty dagger

sweet tartan
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@eternal ivy how did making the animations go for your sidescroller?

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@gritty sapphire Can yout ag me and let me know how the allright rig has worked for you? I see you've got the dweller from daz in there.

restive yew
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You need to make a blendspace as you did with idle/walk/run. It’s quite literally the same set up but with a different batch of animations.

misty dagger
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@restive yew Wait what do you mean? Was that for me?

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How do I make a blendspace and what does it do?

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Oh okay, well now I know what a blendspace is, how do I use it to turn all of my animations around? Because it's not just for the direction of my run and idle, it also my jump, slide, the direction of multiple attacks, and stuff like that.

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Because I don't want to have to go in Blender ad manually flip all the animations and stuff like that, I just want to be able to jus make it to where you press A it turns around and runs and attacks that way. I don't need it to mirror the attacks or anything, just do the exact same thing, just the opposite way, and I want to figure out how to do that

restive yew
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In that case, you simply need to rotate the pawn in its bp. If you’re using a character bp, then you’ll just need to enable yaw or pitch rotation in the component detail

eternal ivy
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@sweet tartan ?

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I think the last sidescroller I made I was still using stock animations?

misty dagger
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@restive yew I'm using a character BP for my character information stuff, and I'm also using an animation blueprint for the state machine stuff. Where do I find YAW/pitch rotation and how do I enable it? Sorry I couldn't find it

sweet tartan
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@eternal ivy I heard you were making some animations and needed help or something that's all

eternal ivy
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ahh. Yeah I run into issues every time 😄 I think I've got it figured now, but I havent done any in a long while

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thanks 😄

restive yew
misty dagger
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Ive been at this for a while, I cant seem to have my character to be standing up. I have set Z to be up and as seen in the screenshot is not standing that way. Any advice on how to fix this?

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@restive yew Hm, it doesn't change which way he's facing, it just does the same thing. I tried checking both YAW and Pitch, but he just still moonwalked when I pressed back

misty dagger
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Look like she sleepy

sweet tartan
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I want to rotate this animation in-engine

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How could I do this?

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I want him to flip.

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I know you can cause the animation to rotate somehow within Unreal. @ me if you answer, thanks a lot!

glad plaza
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@sweet tartan Videos like? Any examples please? I recently purchased akeytsu for animation and regret it lol. What videos should I watch or purchase? College is really $10,000-$20,000+ =.=

sweet tartan
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@glad plaza I'm not sure what you are asking?

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You're asking how to animate, or how I animate?

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I taught myself nearly everything that I know.

restive yew
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@misty dagger Check your input functions. It's likely not set up to rotate the pawn. Move onto #blueprint this is not an animation issue.

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Love, did you just get rando pinged? 😛

sweet tartan
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I think so, I'm not sure what the guy is talking about.

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The context is unclear.

restive yew
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Always fun

sweet tartan
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Still looking for an answer as to how to make my character rotate when flipping, in-enginw

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I can do it when animating but I also l know there's gotta be a widely used way in unreal?

glad plaza
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my first question on this channel was: "as a broke person, where or what sort of book should i buy to learn animation? Instead of $10,000 college fees?"

restive yew
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hmm, it's going to pause at the zenith? You're not going to rotate the bones itself?

glad plaza
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then you suggested video

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therefore i asked

sweet tartan
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Oh. That was forever ago.
I literally just watch real people and stop them at certain frames and copy the poses in the animation program

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I've developed my own style when it comes to my game though

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It has its own rhythm and way of working

glad plaza
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I see

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I am too retarded to animate I guess

restive yew
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Almost everyone here is self taught. There's no magic to it

sweet tartan
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People always direct others to skullgirls gdc

glad plaza
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isn't skullgirls is a 2D game?

sweet tartan
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I saw one guy animate by crouching then stretching and then being midair and that taught me everything I needed

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Yes

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The same principles apply. Trust me.

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I hated that people kept showing me 2D.

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But if you look at the 3D animations from the side, it helps a lot.

glad plaza
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Which one is that guy animate by crouching then stretching? Would love to learn your way maybe

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I spent months still clueless

sweet tartan
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Maybe I can teach you.

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Cough up the money.

glad plaza
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I thought animation isn't for some people

sweet tartan
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Are you currently a student?

glad plaza
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yea

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broke person though

sweet tartan
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In college/university

restive yew
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Watch some videos on animation principle

glad plaza
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part time college, i don't pay fees for every year anyways

sweet tartan
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Download the student version of may 2018 with your student email

restive yew
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technical side of it is where it gets tricky

sweet tartan
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It's free for 3 years

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I'll teach you under once condition.

glad plaza
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no student email for part time college

sweet tartan
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...ouch

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Never heard of that

glad plaza
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too poor alright.

restive yew
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what

glad plaza
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oh well

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brb

restive yew
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resort to Blender

sweet tartan
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I can't teach blender..

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I can teach the basics

restive yew
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Guarantee he's not going to pay you anyway 😛

sweet tartan
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He will.

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I said under one condition

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Never said it was moolah

restive yew
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blood sacrifices doesn't count

sweet tartan
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Says you

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Every person that I teach must teach others when the time comes.

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Share the wealth, pass on the skill, become the ultimate.

mossy coral
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hi guys, do you know or how is the best way to prepare a rig and animation for unreal?

do you guys prefer to rig and animate a base body for example without clothes? because I wanted to have some changing clothes will that be a problem?

sweet tartan
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I wish I knew more, sorry. The base bodies we have do not have clothing, but I think they have to be skinned to characters and whatnot

dark pawn
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Hey everyone, can anybody help with an issue i have with maya and A.R.T. v1.0, everytime i add the character for animation, afterwards i am unable to save the scene anymore u.u what can i doo? 😦

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or rather as soon as I import an animation it stops working

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// Error: line 1: Cannot parent a referenced object to another referenced object. Use the 'group' command. //
// Error: line 0: Could not save file "C:/Users/phand/Documents/maya/projects/default/scenes/1.mb". //

solar gyro
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Is it normal/desired for importing of static meshes and skeletal meshes to have a different visual outcome? Same FBX, the top one is imported as a static mesh, the bottom as a skeletal mesh.

restive yew
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Looks like you lost your smoothing group

burnt jasper
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whats the diffrence between using a sprite jus a regualr image?

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well i guess i coulda jus googled that nvm ><

solar gyro
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@restive yew You are correct, as it complains about not finding the smothing groups, but why would it complain with skeletal mesh, but with the static mesh there were no issues.

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Could it be importing wihtout a skeleton?

restive yew
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Well, the static clearly has smoothing group. Somewhere down the line, you lost the group. Whether during rigging, import, export, etc.

solar gyro
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@restive yew It was my fault when importing, I had to select import normals and not caculate normals on the fbx importer window.

hoary kindle
misty dagger
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so sad 😦

dark pawn
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anybody ever had this in maya working with A.R.T. v1.0? u.u i can't ever save my work

dark pawn
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well if anyone wants to know xDD
just run
cmds.file(save = True, type = "mayaBinary", force = True, prompt = True)
in the script editor and it saves fine

sweet tartan
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It's not a bug it's a feature

misty dagger
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have anyone tested if it is possible to use the Blenrig and to export it to Unreal?

spice hill
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I don't see any reason why Blenrig wouldn't "work" in UE4. but whether the skeleton and everything else matches/imports exactly how you want is another story

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Anyone ever mixed Fabrik/IK and simulated physics/physical animations?

somber urchin
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anyone know how to set up IKs from blender to UE4?

sweet tartan
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@hybrid tulip

misty dagger
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Hi guys I have a skeletal mesh imported from blender that moves, I have attached a socket to the end of one of the bones, how do I get the socketed item to move locally with the bone animation?

meager crystal
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Anyone know how to blend single frame animation? I;m currently using a Blend Poses On Enum but the blending doesnt seem to be working.

somber urchin
misty dagger
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Thank you that seems to work - however looks like I will have to rescale and reposition it!

sweet tartan
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@meager crystal let me know if you get the answer.

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I think key pose animation like that is really smart.

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Overgrowth uses it.

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procedural animationnn

misty dagger
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Is there anyone here that creates their own rigs in blender and then imports them into UE4? And if you do do you use the IK systems? And if you use the IK systems does it break your characters limbs? I've seen this issue pop up in other threads and I think I've identified the problem but I'm not sure how to fix it.

Everything has been great so far until yesterday when I tried using IK systems in the engine. (You can see examples of the issues in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/unrealengine/comments/arj2kx/artists_who_create_their_own_skeletal_rigs_and/)

I believe the issue is that when I enable IK on my limbs unreal is zeroing out the local rotations of the affected bones. This is because if I manually zero out a bone in-engine it winds up in the same position as it does when I turn on leg IK

So I think I need to set the rotations of the bones in their rest poses to equal zero? And I don't know if I need to do that in unreal or in blender. But I think if I can do that then when IK is enabled it won't cripple my characters. Does anyone know how to do that?

somber urchin
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@misty dagger I'm trying to find out the same thing.....

misty dagger
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@somber urchin Yeah, like I refuse to believe that this is just an unsolvable issue, right? Surely someone has figured this out before, there's no way that every artist who gets this far discovers that their rig doesn't work with IK and gives up.

opal jackal
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I have a rigged character that is all one mesh. I want to hide his weapon by simply assigning his weapon material an invisible material. My problem is I don't know how to select just his weapon in Maya and assign a new material. Any ideas? https://i.gyazo.com/542fbee81901489615a4b64bb0379036.png

restive yew
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You need to select the vertices you want and assign new mat id

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Going off of memory here. You can select by element or you can expand group select using ‘shift + >’

opal jackal
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@restive yew That seemed to work! Thank you so much. 😃

timid glade
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Does anyone know if there's a way to scrub through skeletal animations inside the editor when I move the play head in the Sequencer?

opal jackal
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Is there something special I have to do for Muzzleflash joints and sockets? I ask because my newly rigged weapon's muzzleflash's are rotated 90 degrees.

opal jackal
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Its rotated 90 in UE4 but not in Maya

restive yew
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I think Y is up in maya yes?

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Also, zero out those local rot

rustic swallow
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hi, I have a bone rig but when I export it as a FBX

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ue4 imports it as an animation, but no skeleton asset

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is it possible to generate a skeleton asset from the rig?

restive yew
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Yes, you simply need to leave skeleton as none when importing

delicate robin
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Does anyone know any free tools that will do basic static mesh editing?

restive yew
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Blender

delicate robin
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Thanks @restive yew, I'll give that a shot.

merry summit
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Is this possible: Play an animation(montage?) from the Player blueprint, but have the animBP do additive blends over it? As an example, play a Punch montage from the playerBP, but the animBP blends over a lean animation, a body rotation, an overall body pose adjustment etc.. all full body (eg. not layered per bone)

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ive tried using slots, switching up which is the additive blend, mesh space vs local blends, a variety of things but it seems like the montage overrides everything and doesnt get additive blends on top

vast yoke
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Hi everyone, I'm new here.
Long time modder, and I am now making my first game, and after some research, I chose to go with the Unreal Engine.
So, hi o/

Anyways, I have a question...

Does anyone know of any free or cheap VR motion Capture software?
Anyone know of a VR motion capture software they recommend, an affordable one?

Thanks for any help, and I'm excited to join the Unreal community.

restive yew
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Software? I recall Blender has mocap support though I’ve never tested that myself. Motionbuilder is the go to for handling mocap data. There’s a free student license or you can use 30 days trial.

gilded harbor
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Hey guys, so I noticed quite some time ago that when I import my Skeletal Mesh, the root bone comes scaled by 100
(I'm using blender, and I've been looking into the scaling problem but, I saw on one of the Epic's streams that it was supposed to work from the start now).

I just wanna ask if that's normal, and I shouldn't worry too much about it, I can get the animations to work (Even tho I get the "Bone transform is different from original error").
I'm mostly having trouble trying to get some things on the Physics asset to work properly, like cloth. I thought the bone scale being 100 might be the cause, the problem is I cant find a way to make Unreal import it with a scale of 1,1,1.

I exported the manikin and opened on my blend file side by side with my mesh, they're about the same side, and I don't think I have any deltas applied, at least that I know of...

terse wind
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Can i play additive animation once? In the animation blueprint it's going in a loop. I want to play it once when getting hit, and that's it.

restive yew
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Click on the animation in the state machine, there’s an option for looping in the details panel

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@gilded harbor your animations will work fine. Adding cloth stim for example will cause an issue though (still hunting a fix for that). But to start, make sure your scene is set to metric. Set scene unit to .1. This will convert it to cm, matching unreal’s.

gilded harbor
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... doing that I got the scale to be 1, but how would I make the character the normal size again? Do I scale it on the animation or do I need to remake the rig?

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because the rigs get pretty messed up if I try to apply the scale e.e

restive yew
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Scale the rig in edit mode. Zero out the cursor coord and use that as pivot point for a more controlled scaling

gilded harbor
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then scale the mesh and reapply the weights?

restive yew
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Scale mesh in edit mode too. You don’t need to reweigh it

gilded harbor
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OMG O.O Thank you soo much @restive yew
I've been dealing with this for MONTHS

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Seriouslly thanks a lot, I never got the physics asset to generate correctly aswell, so it really was the scale, Now it's working great xD

restive yew
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oh dear

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Glad the issue was resolve. Blender export pipeline is a pain at best of times

untold zinc
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some one used "Copy pose from mesh" for modular character ??

terse wind
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@restive yew that's just playing an animation, I need to do that on an additive animation, so it applies on top of current animation

meager crystal
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Anyone know how to play an additive animation on top of a montage?

sudden sedge
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apply the additive node after the montage node in the animation blueprint

serene perch
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howdy, just a quick question about skeleton and locomotion setup

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Is it a good idea to like, unify ALL animation into a single skeleton?

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like having third person, first person and camera animation all handled in a single animation blueprint?

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to reduce the amount of separate state machines all basically doing the same transitions

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not really an animation guy myself, still working with placeholder assets and whatnot

dapper panther
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Hi Im stuck on the an animation graph. Basically my char has a idle state, and then an attack state. When the left click, I just need to play the attack animation, and then I need my state to go back to idle. So I created a variable for this called "isAttacking" , and when he left click I set that, and it switches to the attack state and plays the attack animation, but then it never goes back to idle state! how to set the "isAttacking" flag to false when the attack animation ended?

restive yew
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Don’t handle attacks in state machine. Use animation montage and run it through the char bp.

dapper panther
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thanks @restive yew ! is you suggestion based on something you implemented yourself and tested?

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are actions better in montage (like attack, jump, punch), while permanent states in state machines (like combat idle, sleep, sit)?

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or better everything in montage?

restive yew
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Yes, I’ve made such system. The idea is, you cache you state machine[s] and then cache montage using the previous cache. You can blend bones and do bools from there

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Idle, walk, run, jump can all be set up in a state machine. These merely need passive bp communication. But if you need more control, you use ani montages. Attacks, eat, sleep, death. Basically anything that needs to trigger a function.

hazy pollen
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Are vector Anims the same as morphs (as far as UE4's concerned)?

untold zinc
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Hi I am using "Copy Pose from mesh" to set up a modular character, I have a child of Mesh on ThirPersonCharacterBP, it uses "Copy pose from mesh" with "Use attached parent" in the AnimBP ( this child SKM is a head, neck_01 and respective mesh ), it looks working on the BP preview, but when i play the head is static, some tip ?? If i use SK with all hierarchy it works in all cases, but just using the required bones cause this issue ( is suposed to work and works in preview ), what i miss ?? Thanks in advance if some one can help

civic hinge
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I have a question. I made a simple animation on Blender and exported it to Unreal. It doesn't work. I can export well until Mesh, but I can't see the animation. I'll attach some gif files to help you understand.
What should I do? I'm so new to Unreal that I don't know what to do.
-Written as a translator.

restive yew
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Rename your rig to anything but Armature

civic hinge
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Thank you very much for your answer, but can you give me some more supplementary explanation?
I'm not sure what you're talking about.

restive yew
civic hinge
wraith nova
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Hello i was wondering if i can retarget an animation pack to my paragon character thanks

wraith nova
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Sorry i got it 😊 thanks

dapper mountain
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Anyone got Carrier properly retargeted for normal UE4 skeleton and animations? (I really hope so, I need it so bad right now lol)

inland ridge
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anyone tried to import an FBX animation exported from UE4 to 3dsmax? It won't play, in blender it plays fine

tall hull
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@huffeh no problem here on 3ds Max 2019. Exported a couple of anims from the mannequin (third person run and jump) using FBX 2018 compatibility. Just the skeleton imported, and it plays fine.

wraith nova
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Can anyone tell me how to get my montage to work? Or plug it up properly?

inland ridge
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@tall hull hmm let me try again, I think it was using a different FBX version

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what settings did you use on import? Just "Add"? Still doesn't work

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wait lol, it was a checkbox "Animation" set to off, but it somehow allowed me to change animation settings. Clicking it on and off fixed it

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now the problem - I'm using a skeleton with different proportions, how can I import existing UE animations, without it making a mess of my skeleton? I want to preserve positions and have the imported animations retargeted, but in 3dsmax. Is this even possible?

molten vector
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Hi, i have been working on an animation for a fan game i am a dev on. The running animation is of course made in blender and i need to get it into Unreal Engine 4 but there is an error that i have had a lot of trouble with. Does anybody think i can DM them the fbx file so that they can fix it?. I really need help and get finnished with this. People have tried explaining it to me but i can't really understand what they mean. I am pretty new to this and i hop someone will be so good and to let me send them the file.
Also the error that is stated is the multiple roots error

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actually nvm

molten vector
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Hi

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i have a problem with my animation from blender

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when i import it and i preview it my character is lying down in the animations

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why is that

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can someone please tell me a fix?

restive yew
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Change the rotation upon import

dusky axle
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My mesh just pulls apart instead of importing the animation correctly. I have deform off on all my bones in blender🤔

misty dagger
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Is there a way for my anim BP to tell my player BP to change a boolean? I want the IsRolling boolean to be set to false once my roll animation finishes but I've only ever made changes to the anim BP from the player BP, not the other way around. Is that possible?

next pine
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I had a similar question to @misty dagger , but more generally. When designing how you're going to control a character, should the state machine be considered a reflection of gameplay state, solely concerned with animation, or should it be considered authoritative about the state of the character?

misty dagger
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I might be able to help @next pine. For the past few months up until like 5 minutes ago my state machine was purely a reflection of my gameplay state. But now it looks like I can have a sort of hybrid where occasionally the state machine tells my character what to do.

next pine
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Interesting!

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The people I'm working with are concerned about timing. How do you handle knowing how long a particular event should last.

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For example, an interactive chair, which, when activated, has the player sit in the chair.

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To my mind, the correct way to do this would be to have the gameplay code send an event to the animation bp, which would trigger a state change to a 'start sitting' state, which would run an animation of the character sitting down (one of several, probably, based on the targets relative location), then enter a 'sitting' state.

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And the character would be considered to be 'seated' when they're in the 'sitting' state.

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But that means that the gameplay code is reacting to the state machine transitions.

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How do you handle that?

misty dagger
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My solution might not be the best but that seems almost identical to the situation I was just in. In the main #ue4-general MathewW responded to me and I can relay the info here.

next pine
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Fantastic!

misty dagger
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I basically have my different booleans that represent my different states in my main character blueprint. Things like IsCrouching, IsProne, IsSprinting, etc. I then also have corresponding booleans in my anim BP that dictate when to change my animations. I ran into an issue with my rolling animation. I needed to set "IsRolling" to false once my roll animation finished but that would mean that my Anim BP would be telling my character BP what to do. Mathew reminded me about anim notifies and linked his quick setup here: https://i.imgur.com/dvQixz7.png

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Basically, you set a point on the animation timeline when you want an event to trigger

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And then you cast to the player to trigger the event. So for your sitting animation you would create an event at the end of the transition animation

next pine
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Ah, ok. I was wondering if notifies were the 'reverse channel'.

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That makes sense to me, and lets you be more expressive then relying on hard state transitions.

misty dagger
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You could also do something using the "TimeRemaining" node. That's what I've been doing

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up until tonight

next pine
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(for example, you could trigger the 'seated' animation notify before the end of the animation, so you could have a settle without interrupting interactivity)

misty dagger
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Yeah I think that would work

next pine
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Do you use events or does your gameplay code just flip switches?

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Like, for a punch, or a swordswing?

misty dagger
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I used input events for those

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But I had context-relevant animations

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I unplugged all of my combat code but let me see if its still in here somewhere. My animations got messed up a while back and rather than redoing them all right away I decided to keep working on my locomotion but I think I still left it in here somewhere

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It was meant to copy the ForHonor combat system

next pine
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I worked on that project. : )

misty dagger
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so if I was aiming left my character would be in the Fists_Left state. And then it would play an animation corresponding to my mouse input. So fists_left_0 would trigger a light attack to the left

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WOW that's one of my favorite games of all time from a raw gameplay perspective. and visual

next pine
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Nice! I was, sadly, not involved in the gameplay stuff for that one. I did their cinematic animation pipeline stuff.

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Which did get used, but was not nearly as cool as the gameplay stuff.

misty dagger
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Well visually everything in that game is spectacular as well!

next pine
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It was very pretty. : )

misty dagger
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It's so cool that you were a part of that it's one of my biggest inspirations. Yeah so for throwing punches I'm pretty sure I just flipped a boolean on for like .05 seconds and the anim graph would play the animation as a result. Since it would enter the transition if the bool was set to true and it wouldn't go back to normal until the time remaining in the animation was around 0. I didn't think that was the best way to do it and I went around asking on forums but everyone seemed to think it was acceptable and no one suggested an improvement

next pine
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I guess you could do the boolean switching yourself, inside the animation bp, using a notify.

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And then it wouldn't matter how long the animation was.

misty dagger
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And my fist hitbox was socketed onto a hand bone so as long as the fists were out it would register hits. Although with the new info Mathew gave me I could turn off the hitbox as soon as the anim was over

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yeah exactly

next pine
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You could even turn the hurtbox on and off in the middle of the animation, so it's only 'live' during the impact, not during anticipation / recovery.

misty dagger
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Oh thats even better, I'll put that in my notes for when I go back to combat

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I don't know how much you've worked on the combat, but someone showed me that it's significantly cheaper to do a line trace than an entire box trace. So like my fist had two line traces with one going across the knuckles and the other going across the first digits. So it looked like an equals sign =. When I do bladed weapons I'll have the line trace from the bottom of the blade to the tip

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I mean along the edge of the blade

next pine
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Interesting, but I suspect that weapon collision testing isn't going to be a bottleneck in most games.

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Unless you have a ton of combatants.

misty dagger
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That'd make sense. It's definitely more tedious to set up too.

I've had a problem that you might know about, it's fine if you don't. Do you use your own skeletons for animations? Or are you using the UE4 mannequin's skeleton?

next pine
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Our own skeletons.

misty dagger
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Did you make them in blender?

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or anything other than maya?

next pine
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No, Maya.

misty dagger
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, damn. Nevermind then. Blender rigs seem to work fine in UE4 until LegIK gets turned on. That totally destroys whatever limb the IK is applied to. One day I'll find another person using a blender rig, hopefully they'll have answers.

I hope I helped though, I know anim notifies are going to be revolutionary for my workflow hopefully they help you too!

next pine
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Thank you! Yes. You've been a great help.

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My guess, for the leg thing, is that the axis are wrong.

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Check which axis is pointing forwards.

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The unreal 2-bone ik may only work on one axis.

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I haven't checked, but that would be the first place I'd look.

misty dagger
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I'll check it out then. I know that if I import the mannequin into blender with "connect bones" or whatever to make it look good and then put it back into UE4 then the mannequin will also have the issue. And if I go to its foot bone in the skeleton and set its local rotation to 0,0,0 then it seemingly goes to the same place as it does once IK is turned on.

next pine
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Yeeeah.

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That sounds like it's an axis problem.

misty dagger
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Awesome, I wrote that down too. Once I finish this rolling stuff I'm going straight back to investigating the IK issue. Because that's currently the biggest obstacle in my way. I'll let you know if it ends up working, thanks again!

next pine
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No problem. Thank you. : )

molten vector
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I imported my character animation from blender to UE4 but my skeleton mesh and animations became really small does anyone have a good solution?

restive yew
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Set the scene unit in blender to metric and rename your rig to anything but Armature

molten vector
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ok

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@restive yew should i set it to centimeters?

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the length is set to none

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and unit preset is not set to anything

restive yew
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Centimeters is fine

molten vector
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ok

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what about the length thing?

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should i set that to somethin?

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it is set to none

restive yew
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Screenshot the please. I haven’t had morning tea yet ☕️

molten vector
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o

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there you have it

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a screenshot @restive yew

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and what should i set the unit scale to?

restive yew
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.1

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1 = 1 meter

molten vector
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sooo

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everything good?

restive yew
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Just check the height of the mesh itself

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200 cm is the default character height in unreal

molten vector
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where do i check height?

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in unreal?

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or blender?

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and where

restive yew
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Go to edit mode in blender and click on one of the highest vertex or go the left, right, front, or back view and move the 3D cruiser to the top of the head. Check it’s z coords

molten vector
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?

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i don't totally get what you mean

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but i think it is ok

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i will try importing now

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didn't help

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my anims are still small

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but there is something weird

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it makes a difference witch way i import

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i can import by going to file and import to level

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or i can import it with the import button in the animation window at the bottom

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but when i import from the bottom thing my character becomes small

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but

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when i import from the file thing my character is just rotated 90 deegres

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it is really weird

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also when i do the file thing my character is right size but is just rotated

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@restive yew

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i think it will be easier to fix my character being rotated

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so how do i fix

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my character is lying on his back

restive yew
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What

molten vector
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and in the animations he is also lying on his back

restive yew
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Set rotation upon import

molten vector
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but where

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i am really new

restive yew
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Import menu

molten vector
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in ue4?

restive yew
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Change the value of import rotation

molten vector
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that is not what i get

restive yew
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Just drag the fbx onto the content browser

molten vector
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?

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what you mean

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like open file explorer and drag?

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@restive yew

restive yew
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Please

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Stop pinging

molten vector
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sorry

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but should i just drag the file?

restive yew
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And yes

molten vector
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ok

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and what should i set the values to?

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Redirector

restive yew
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Experiment

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Probably going to be either x or y

molten vector
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ok

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thanks

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well

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when i drag it it is only small so i guess i should just see what i can do with scale

random lichen
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Okay not sure if this is a stupid question or not - I keyframed my own animation in UE4 and saved it as an animsequence. It plays fine in the Animation preview, but when I hook it up in the AnimGraph, it doesn't play. I did compile the AnimGraph and other animations are working, just not this new custom one.

The main difference is the new one was created by rotating a bone and keyframing the rotation. I suspect it might have something to do with the message "Bone manipulation is disabled in this mode", but i'm not sure. Any thoughts on why this might not work?

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It also doesn't play in game either

tawny coral
tiny granite
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Any reason that the ART character is importing rotated at 90

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i also get a script error

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nvm i guess a Z/Y difference for the default

terse wind
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Is it possible to play Additive Animation over the whole pose once?

stray bay
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I've got a bit of an issue - I have a custom deformed character rigged using ARTv1 that works properly with the Unreal skeleton. I then tried to apply animations from a purchased pack (Adventure Game Animset) and it's totally messed up - the hands don't reach the places that they're supposed to go, etc. Given that they both us the UE skeleton does anyone have ANY idea what's going on here? I've already sunk a ton of time into this and I'm at a loss.

stone umbra
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k im here

restive yew
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ah

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cheeky bugger

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just hit +

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your mouse cruiser was covering it

stone umbra
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Oooh lol

untold zinc
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Hi all, i am importing a blender animation, but it breaks when UE4 removes the Armature object, some one knows how to fix that ??

stone umbra
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Unsigno make sure it's all selected when you export

restive yew
stone umbra
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And if it is then make sure you have the skeleton import option ticked too

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when importing into UE4

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If I'm doing multiple bones would I just keep adding? @restive yew

restive yew
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yes

untold zinc
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yes, it works fine if i rename the Armature object ( so UE4 don't remove it ) but when it is removed the animation breaks

restive yew
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bone depth sets the number of child bones it'll influence mind you

stone umbra
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Hold on this is confusing me

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@untold zinc one sec I'll help you

untold zinc
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ok thanks, i wait np

stone umbra
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Wouldn't a bone selection like that normally be a drop down of bones on the skeleton? @restive yew

restive yew
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I'm afraid I do not understand your question

stone umbra
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Idk what I'm doing lmao

restive yew
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Bone Name: sets the bone that'll be blended

stone umbra
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But bone depth means it'll blend the children of that bone too, right?

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Or did I misunderstand what you said?

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"bone depth sets the number of child bones it'll influence"

restive yew
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It just sets how many bones are influenced along the chain starting from the bone you declared in Bone Name

stone umbra
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like this?

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@untold zinc can I dm you?

untold zinc
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sure

restive yew
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Well, that's one way of brute forcing it

stone umbra
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yeah but it still doesn't work though 😦

restive yew
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you can use Neck and bone depth 1 to have the head bone influenced instead of manually setting individual bones

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but regardless

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debug time

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print out the pitch var from the anibp

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make sure it's actually receiving it

river meteor
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Hmm redirector are you sure that's what blend depth does? I thought it was rations for the hierarchy

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Ratios*

stone umbra
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how do I print it?

river meteor
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For example, having a value of 1 would be full blend for all child bones, while having something like 0.5 would be 50% of the parent for every step down in the hierarchy

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That's what I got from the forums + it seems to behave that way in practice

stone umbra
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even Epic's official documentation doesn't explain it

restive yew
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you can't put floats in blend depth

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go to your ani event graph and use the print node

river meteor
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Er sorry I meant something like 2 would have the 50% effect

stone umbra
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print string?

river meteor
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1/<parent blend> per child

restive yew
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print string yes

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I'll test it in a moment xen

stone umbra
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it says 0

restive yew
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you are moving your mouse when playing yes? (sorry, gotta ask) 😛

stone umbra
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yeah lmao

restive yew
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Wonderful. screenshot the graph please

stone umbra
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lol you're going to cringe at my spaghetti blueprints

river meteor
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Here I found some stuff

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// how much weight increase Per depth
const float IncreaseWeightPerDepth = (BranchFilter.BlendDepth != 0) ? (1.f/((float)BranchFilter.BlendDepth)) : 1.f;
restive yew
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looks good

river meteor
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From AnimationRuntime.cpp:1302

restive yew
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print it in the char bp too

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baby steps

river meteor
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const float BlendIncrease = IncreaseWeightPerDepth * (float)(Depth + 1);
BoneBlendWeight.BlendWeight = FMath::Clamp<float>(BoneBlendWeight.BlendWeight + BlendIncrease, 0.f, 1.f);
restive yew
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yep, looks like ratios

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interesting

river meteor
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It's multiplying the ratio by the depth

restive yew
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and annoying

river meteor
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Yea I really wish they documented this stuff haha

stone umbra
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oh sorry redirector one sec didn't see

restive yew
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I think I based my original description off the live training on it

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Gotta double check on that video. That's concerning if it was the case

stone umbra
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doesn't print anything

restive yew
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mate

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sit down

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breath

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you didn't connect the set var

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it's never executing

stone umbra
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🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦 🤦

restive yew
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it's ok 😄

stone umbra
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I thought you said it would run without me having to execute it from anything lmao

restive yew
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hey hey, I only mislead you on the blend depth 😛

stone umbra
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lool ok

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well it's kind of working but it's doing some funky shit now

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think I can fix it tho one sec

river meteor
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// if Depth == -1, it's not a child Hmm, setting the blend depth to -1 makes it so it just affects that bone, right?

stone umbra
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ok so when I look all the way down it sets my pitch to 270

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and all the way up is 89.9

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Ok so it works, but it doesn't blend smoothly at all

restive yew
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setting any negative value doesn't yield blending from what I can tell xen

river meteor
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Interesting, I could swear it did something

restive yew
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Use the input scalar value instead, it's cleaner and less headache Vmpere. Unless you absolutely need rotation value

river meteor
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Maybe it nulls out curves on those bones that were previously computed

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That would be my best guess

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For example, compute a full body animation then null out just the thigh bones so that you don't have to do some nasty branch stuff

stone umbra
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what does scalar do?

restive yew
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That's the thing though, it seems to null out everything

river meteor
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There's also the CurveBlendOption that adds a layer of complexity on this

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I'm using BlendByWeight (not default)

stone umbra
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I think I'm going to bed lol

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It's 3:30 am here and I have to do like 3 more of these blending things tomorrow :/

restive yew
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It's your axis value. keeps the numbers reasonable and consistent

stone umbra
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or today technically

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ok

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Is it ok if I ping you with any questions later, redirector?

restive yew
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On this topic? Sure. Just remember there are a ton of lovely folks here who can help you too.

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and not misunderstand the function of blend depth

stone umbra
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Will do 😃

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cya

restive yew
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Ah, you're right xen. It does null specific bones when changing to blend by weight

river meteor
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Cool, that makes sense.

restive yew
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Thank you for correcting me. It certainly sheds some light on these poorly documented nodes.

river meteor
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For sure, I wasn't sure myself just running with what I had seen on the forums

stray bay
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Did anyone have any ideas about my issue? I’m seriously in the dark and any help (or even just ideas!) would be so massive. Basically, again, I rigged a custom character using ARTv1 in Maya, then I’m trying to use some store-bought animations rigged to the UE skeleton and it’s super messed up, no matter how I tweak the bone in the skeletal window

restive yew
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It’s been years since I’ve used maya. Can’t help you much there. I’m assuming you’re trying to retarget it. Investigate UEs bone rotation. I recall it’s funky

stray bay
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Hmmm okay. Yeah, trying to retarget but I cannot fathom why it would be messed up like that

restive yew
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Test retargeting on the mannequin and mixamo rig too.

tiny flicker
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Hi! Who's familiar with Maya? I have mixamo retarget script I wrote a while ago and it worked well. But now when I use it, animation just do not work.

The steps I make
Clear rotation connections
Rename joints
Remove Unity useless joints
Orient joints
Add root

But now clear connections break the animation. Is it possible to restore connections.

IF i do not clear connections, I get weird animation at the end.

tiny flicker
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Finally I found out how did i retarget it. But now I have another problem 😄

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Does any body know, why animation can apply such effect?

misty dagger
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Anybody knows where I can get a free dodge/roll placeholder that can use the UE4 skeleton? I can't seem to find one even in Paragon

rose zealot
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ok guys, I've modelled and animated a chest in blender with 3 keyframes. How do I get that bad boy into ue4 now? Will i be able to determine when the animation should stop (I want the chest to stay open while browsing its contents, then close when the player is done using it)

misty dagger
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Anybody knows how to hide certain bones (im trying to hide Paragon char weapons) without using the Anim BP graph? Setting the scale to 0 in the skeleton doesn't seem to work and it just resets everytime I reopen the skeleton

calm pelican
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Does anyone have a resource/tutorial/advice on animating first person animations for Unreal? I am pretty good with anim-BPs and okay with actually crafting animations, but I am curious to see of there's anything in particular to keep in mind while building them for first person.

simple star
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Anyone knows how to quickly restart an animation ?

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I'm teleporting my characters between areas of the game but when the new area loads completely you can still see the players moving from the previous movements ... how would you go about fixing this ?

rose zealot
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hey guys. So I've modelled and animated a chest in blender, but I have trouble importing it. I've tried several options. It either doesn't import the whole modell into blender, or imports it somehow completely deformed and idk how to fix that. Googling didn't help me either. Is my model/it's animation fucked, or are it the export settings, or the import settings in ue4? How can I find out?
pls @ or dm me if u can help, I'd appreciate it a lot

misty dagger
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@Silveregg just play animation? Pretty sure it will start at time 0

lunar agate
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Does anyone know the science behind blendspace? Is it just a weighted Lerp between corresponding skeletal points?

misty dagger
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Does anyone have any good tutorials on Animation Montages for 1.21? That's the version I'm using, and all of the tutorials I find on it are outdated. I heard I could use it to make my jump animation play when my character jumps.

lavish silo
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what would be causing this issue here with the knees and the wrists

restive yew
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Misaligned mesh, bone, bad vert weighing

lavish silo
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I used mixamo to generate the rig/bones

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I do think there is a issue with the weights, though when I try to export from 3ds max.

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I get this issue here;

restive yew
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wow

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are you using a pack?

lavish silo
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what do you mean

restive yew
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you can export mixamo animation packs. Which is incredibly buggy

lavish silo
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I just uploaded the Model to Mixamo, then assigned the wrists, pelvis, elbows. knees, chin, then downloaded it in T-pose

restive yew
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and reuploaded yes?

lavish silo
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no

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is that a required step?

restive yew
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You may be getting bone discrepancy then

lavish silo
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So after I download it, I reupload it?

restive yew
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You'll want to download it, fix the bones/weight as needed, then reupload it (don't rename the bones mind you), grab the animations you need

untold zinc
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i have a skeletalmeh component with an animation BP, can it access the parent states ?? ( eg. maniquin with tail, can tail check if maniquin is idle ? or i need to check the speed again ? )

lime bramble
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Where can i learn to import a custom character rig from Blender into UE4? i really tried looking for some info but couldnt find anything useful

sudden mortar
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Having problems with Animation from maya to Unreal, i have an imported skeleton and it looks fine. However all animations that i bring in get problems with the arms/shoulder area. Anyone who knows how to solve it? It does not look like this in maya or motion builder.

restive yew
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Are you using its skeletal mesh Felix?

sudden mortar
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@restive yew I am

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@restive yew Or atleast im selecting it when importing the animations

restive yew
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Import an animation without selecting a skeletal mesh. Let’s see what happens

sudden mortar
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@restive yew Same problem, however when i imported it created a skeleton even if i didnt choose one when importing.

restive yew
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That’s normal. We were just trying to see if it was the original skeletal or the animation that was the problem

sudden mortar
restive yew
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Import without animations, I want to see if it’s the rig itself that’s causing the issue

sudden mortar
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It looks normal, atleast comparing to how it looks in maya

restive yew
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Lovely

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Open the skeletal and rotate the arm bone. See if it’s weight properly

sudden mortar
restive yew
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You’re rotating the forearm

sudden mortar
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I have rotated the shoulder aswell

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arm*

lime bramble
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@restive yew no idea what a skeletal mesh Felix is, i just want to build my own Character Rig in Blender and port it together with the Mesh into UE4

restive yew
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I was talking to Felix after pinging you Thane

lime bramble
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oh okay lol

restive yew
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I’m at a lost Felix, I do apologize. Repost your issue here and hopefully someone can help

foggy vessel
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hey guys.. When I added an aim offset to my character.. I used a blend per bone on the spine 001 and there is a lot of extra movement being transferred to my upper body that isn't in the original aim offset movement

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it doesn't make much sense to me

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sometimes the movement is there other times its not..

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like the gun and arms will bob up and down more than they do in the original animation.. . But sometimes they don't bob at all and are like the original animation

misty dagger
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Hey, does anyone know any good up-to-date tutorial videos on how to use animation montages for Unreal 4 ver 1.21? I heard I can use it to make my character play the jump animation when my character jumps.

restive yew
misty dagger
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Oh okay, well thanks anyways! It's just hat I haven't been able to find any way to get my character to play the jumping animation whenever he's jumping, and only whenever he's jumping. He either plays the animation whenever he jumps and walks off the edge, plays it constantly and doesn't stop, plays it constantly over and over again whenever the character is in the air but goes into the running animation or idle animation whenever he lands, or plays the animation whenever I press space, but even when I'm out of jumps it still plays the animation whenever I press space, it's weird.

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But I only want it to play when my character jumps and each time he jumps (my character has a double jump)

restive yew
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Watch starter animation tutorials. They’ll go over how to use the ani bp, it’s event graph, ani graph, state machine, and transition rules. You’ll be hard press not to find one that doesn’t cover jumping

misty dagger
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Yeah, but usually most of them are outdated from either 4,3, or 2 years ago, sometimes you can find one from 1 so year ago but I don't really know if those are outdated too. And usually the way they set up the jump by detecting if the character is falling (or no longer on the ground) and then play the jump animation, but that makes it to where whenever you walk off the ledge it plays the jump animation. when I don't really want it to. I just want it to play the jump animation whenever the jump action is happening.

restive yew
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Video from 2012 are still applicable for the basic. You don’t need to worry about that. Sounds like your transition rule is bad

misty dagger
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Maybe. How would i set the transition rule to only play the jump animation when I'm wanting?

restive yew
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let me make a quick sample

misty dagger
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Alright! Thank you 😄

restive yew
misty dagger
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Oh okay, thank you! And this way I can double jump without any trouble or it won't play the jump animation whenever I walk off of a ledge right?

restive yew
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double jumping is an input thing. Go to #blueprint for that. Otherwise, the animations will be fine. You may need to add to the transition rule depending on how you implement said input however.

misty dagger
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Well I already have the double jump set up by the maxjump rule in the characterblueprint, but I was just wondering if the animation would still play correctly if I were to use my second jump in the air.

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But I'll try it out and see how it works, thank you By the way in the animBP event graph are those connections going down to anything I need to attach it to, or is that something else that's irrelevant?

restive yew
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ignore those

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there are scary stuff down there

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I doubt it'll respond to the second jump since it's just checking if player is falling. Doesn't hurt to try

misty dagger
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Oh and also, what do I do for some of those transitions in the state machine? I understand the InAir and NOT InAir, but I was wondering what I do for the GetInstance things

restive yew
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ah, right

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it just cuts down on animation poppiness. Makes it blend to the next animation better while preventing JumpIn from looping

misty dagger
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Oh okay, cool! And is it done the same way for the landing animation?

restive yew
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Yep

misty dagger
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Alright, cool! Thank you so much! 😄

misty dagger
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Hey @restive yew ?

restive yew
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you need too make the variable

misty dagger
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Oh, what do I attach the speed variable to? Is there anything else other than what's in the picture?

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Hey @restive yew ? I followed your instructions as far as I know, but my character just kind of replays the jump animation over and over again once I jump. It works normally at first, the run animations and idle animation play and stuff, but once i jump it just continuously plays the jump animation, even after I land and try to run and stuff.

restive yew
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screenshot of the character bp please

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your function for handling jump

unreal jungle
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Hello I have a question about creating a certain animation

restive yew
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An answer cannot be given to an unasked question

unreal jungle
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heh, sorry, so I was wondering how would I go about doing a looking back feature while the character is running something similar to Outlast?

restive yew
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Never play. Aim offset would be one solution

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You can also brute force it and use a blendspace with Blend per bone

unreal jungle
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I might try that.

misty dagger
restive yew
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Delete cast to ani bp. It’s fine otherwise

misty dagger
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@misty dagger make sure your animation length is one jump long when you export and only play once don't loop in ue

misty dagger
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@restive yew But the cast to animation blueprint is for the run animation not the jump animation. And I think I need that for the run and idle animation to work.

restive yew
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It’s telling me you have a messy setup. Wipe the blueprint and start over. Follow these starter tutorials in this order

untold zinc
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if i want to blend 2 animation where one just move the root and another move the rest of the bones. "Layered blend per bone" will be the most appropiate/performant solution ( i can't use additive pose ) ??

molten lodge
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where can I do some learning in regards to in-engine IK ?

wheat badge
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anyone made custom anim graph node here b4?

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@molten lodge ue4 has very few IK supports. Two Bone IK, FABRIK, Spline IK, u find them in the Anim Graph Nodes list

nova oxide
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Hi! Not sure if I should have ask this question here or #cinematics but what's the most convinient way to turn a sequencer animation into ragdoll on UE 4.18? Lets say I have a character in my sequencer, I assigned an animation and at the end of it it should blend/switch to ragdoll (e.g when a character dies at the end of the animation or something like that). Possibly it would be cool to be control it with keyframes.

What I have tried so far is setting up a physics based animation blueprint setup based on the docs and attached it to EventTick and exposed the BlendWeight (float) parameter to the sequencer and keyframed it from 0 to 1. But it doesnt seem to do anything at all when I hit Simulate and play the animation. On another hand I tried to make a custom event which just had a SetAllBodiesSimulatePhysics attached to it with the characters reference, but in 4.18 I cant directly call that unfortunately from sequencer and I had to make another event in the levelBP which was calling this even from the character blueprint, but if I want to have multiple instances of my character I would need to recreate this as many times as much instances I have which is clearly redundant.

Can you guys give me any tips on how could I solve this? Feel free to tag me because I am not really able to check discord often so this way I can find answers better. Thanks in advance.

ps.: I attached a picture of my current setup.

nova oxide
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Sorry I messed up something regarding describing my problem. When I hit Simulate and paly the animation while collision is set to ragdoll, it immediatelly starts to simulate physics and doesnt let to play the animation and when the sequencer gets to the blend keyframes it will just put my character back to the origin and have a ragdoll there

restive yew
analog tulip
restive yew
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In blender (or any 3D software) have the character move forward in the scene using its root bone. This’ll help you get a more pleasing stride as opposed to eyeballing it. It Unreal, you can enable/disable root motion to keep the character in place. Otherwise, look at walk cycle refs. Lots of walk cycle refs.

analog tulip
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oh i didnt know you could use root motion

serene perch
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so uh, blender/animation noob here. Im trying to animate a character sitting. because I need the rotation of my player to be facing the opposite direction I have attempted the following. I used the childof constraint of all root bones in blender to tie them all to a chair in the scene. The sitting animation gets done. Then after that I go into object mode and make two keyframes to rotate the entire object by 180 degrees.

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Now theres a couple confusing things

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I get two animation sequence files

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one with the full rotation, but it rotates as if the childof constraints didnt exist

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and one with only two frames that appear to not do anything

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is there anything obvious so far that I could have been doing wrong?

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or is there more stuff I need to post?

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is my approach generally the right one or is there a better solution to my problem?

restive yew
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oh boy, this is a bit to digest

serene perch
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yea im sorry if I am terrible at describing my problem

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its been something thats been an issue for a few weeks now

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and I havent sufficiently figured it out yet

restive yew
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Quickie solution: in your import window (in unreal) you can adjust rotation

serene perch
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thats an offset that applies to the entire sequence right?

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which doesnt really help me, I need a transition from 0 to 180 degrees with root motion

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let me snap a clip from blender really quick

restive yew
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I really don't understand your issue, it's the animation itself that needs modification?

serene perch
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this is what I got in blender

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it's not been animated with any root motion whatsoever

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every bone is parented to the chair via childof constraint

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now at the end of this I do rotate the entire object

restive yew
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good lord, why?

serene perch
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so that rotating the object leaves the pose alone

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I dont want the character to slide out of the chair

restive yew
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but the chair isn't a part of the animation, just the character

serene perch
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the pose still turns out right inblender

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however it doesnt translate to ue4

restive yew
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Well yes, you're parenting to an object that doesn't exist to calculate bone data

serene perch
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so how do I fix it?

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is there a way I can like

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bake the pose so its not dependent on the chair?

restive yew
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Try (in pose mode) >>> pose >>> animation >>> Bake Action

serene perch
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theres a bunch of tickboxes

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do I just hit ok or do I futz with the settings first?

restive yew
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experiment

serene perch
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aight

restive yew
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or go to a blender forum/server and ask there

serene perch
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okay turns out

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it wasnt anything wrong I did in blender at all

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it was the control rotation forcing itself over the root motion

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so an entirely different problem

devout dagger
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I still don't get why people struggle with UE4 + Blender

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What's the goal here @serene perch ?

misty dagger
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Cos blender is confusing af

devout dagger
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Lol

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Not if you learn it

restive yew
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It's primarily the export pipeline. Quite literally any random reason can cause a fail or undesired result

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like the Armature bug 😛

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or physic scaling

restive yew
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@tawdry sky This isn’t an advertising channel

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Actually

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Delete that please @tawdry sky

molten lodge
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@devout dagger blender FBX export is honestly wank

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but the culprit here is autodesk

serene perch
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@devout dagger having a sit animation with root motion rotation by 180 degree

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so that the character looks the other way once they are finished

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the blender stuff is all working fine now, gotta fix up some other stuff that's messing with rotation

devout dagger
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You are doing it wrong really

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Just make a rig in Blender that has the same size, naming and structure as Mannequin. Animate, export anims, retarget anims to UE4 Mannequin.

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I haven't had any issues doing it like that

analog tulip
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Does anyone know how to fix blender exports animations being imported as tiny

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it imports the skeletal mesh the correct size but animations are very small

devout dagger
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Make your character in Blender with proper scene unit setup and scale @analog tulip

analog tulip
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Ah okay, i thought i could just export it and it would be fine

devout dagger
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Metric, centimeters, 0.01

analog tulip
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where would these settings be?

devout dagger
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Eeh you should probably learn Blender first, before diving into Animations

analog tulip
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Na i can do blender its just ive never exported into unreal

devout dagger
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It's in the Scene tab

analog tulip
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yea i just found it thanks

devout dagger
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👍

wicked crypt
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Importing an animation from UE4 to Blender, but it become this...

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I used .fbx import in blender, should I import or open the mesh first like in UE4?

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What is the problem causing this?

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Never mind.Solved😋

devout dagger
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Why would you import anims into Blender?!

wicked crypt
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Because I bought some assets in UE Marketplace

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And I want to do some adjust

devout dagger
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For me personally, as soon as I stopped doing things I really wasn't suppose to doing and started doing things UE4 way, 99% of my issues with Blender and UE4 got resolved automatically.

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Adjust anims? Just make your own.

serene perch
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@devout dagger do elaborate, im not exactly sure how that is supposed to help me, keep in mind im fairly inexperienced with blender/animation in general

wicked crypt
devout dagger
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@serene perch before I got deeper into game dev, I learned Blender and how to animate. Then I worked with id Tech engines, then I got into UE4. And I tried doing the same thing - importing Mannequin into Blender (with bones sticking out), setting up IK/FK rig to drive those deforming bones, etc. That didn't work. So the proper ways of doing this is either rigging Mannequin mesh in Blender from scratch (the rig should be basically identical to UE4 Mannequin rig that you see in the Skeletal editor in UE4), animating it, exporting into FBX, importing into UE4 and retargeting to UE4's Mannequin, OR just making your character from scratch in Blender, exporting it into UE4 and using it as-is, without retargeting (but it's going to have to be your character made and animated in Blender 100%)

serene perch
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this helps me not whatsoever with my problem

devout dagger
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that's because you don't listen

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learn Blender and animation first, then get back to your export/import exercises

serene perch
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I think it's rather because it's got nothing to do with what Im currently dealing with

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but in any case, I got it figured out roughly so far

molten lodge
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@devout dagger I remember a forum user, believe their username was victorblanco, who made essentially a really fancy control rig for the mannequin

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using what blender sees as the "jumbled" rig

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I got mileage out of it, using the same principle I even got to animate assets for an unreal marketplace release

devout dagger
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sure, it's just backwards

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he isn't an animator and he needed to do so for tests

molten lodge
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hey, if it works and it's easy to animate with... who am I to judge? 😂

devout dagger
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I recall you still going to have to retarget anims, when you bring it into UE4

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there are several solutions to the problems. Mine is to do it right way - learn your tools, follow the standard workflow

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(for animation at least)

restive yew
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@wicked crypt A bit late to the party, you can fix bone rotation upon import into blender. It’s in the setting bottom left section of the import menu.

molten vector
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I am using A.R.Tv1 right now and i am creating a rig. I have gotten so far that i need to go to stage deformation setup EXCEPT: i can't press the button

molten vector
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:/Program Files/Autodesk/Maya2019/scripts/others/newSkinCluster.mel line 59: Skin on root was bound at a different pose. Go to the bindPose to attach new skins.

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?

solar gyro
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Does anyone know how I keep exported fbxs from blender (if its an issue with other software I don't know) extedning the import name to also including the name of the file, and what would cause imported meshes/skels to exagerate the size of sockets added to the mesh after inport?

wicked wind
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hey folks, got a weird issue with my aimoffset where my character's hand starts to come off the gun in the space between key poses - it's attached perfectly fine at every key pose, so im not sure whats going on

misty dagger
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@restive yew So I followed the first tutorial you sent and created a blendspace and set it up exactly like how they did, now how do I connect both the blendspace and the state machine to the final animation pose, and also how do I set up the state machine now? The blendspace is taking care of the run and idle, but how do I set up the state machine now so that the jump will work without the run and idle in the state machine interfering with the blendspace?