animation

[undone arrow]

but your problem. Try searching leader pose

I mean the fbxs

[spare kiln]

It is just den basic mannequin skeleton which now has a few bones like a sword an shield bone added. But this bones are missing on the skeletal meshes

[undone arrow]

Did you pay for the fab one?

[spare kiln]

yes

But I'm not sure why this matters, as far as I can tell this is pretty standard that some animations have additional bones, for example for animationg the shield or sword.

I just wonder how people are handling it, because having to add the bones to each skeletal mesh and keeping that up to date seems a bit tedious, so maybe it has to be that way but maybe there is another better way of doing it thats why I'm asking it. 😅

[undone arrow]

Bc I wanted to test and see for myself that having the same skeleton they share they same animations

Im assuming you probably did something wrong on import

All of these share one skeleton

They all share the same animations

If your mesh does not have the same animations as the other one I dont think they are sharing the same skeleton

[spare kiln]

I didn't test I probably can just play them for each other sure

But thats not what I need I want to know how to handle the control bones ...

[undone arrow]

You shouldnt need to test them. They appear in the animtion window thingy

You probably just missed a tick box Im thinking

Just try assigning the fab skeleton to your main skeletal mesh

stuff might break tho

[spare kiln]

Yea but thats not my problem 🙈

[undone arrow]

Is asks you if you want to merge your bones.

[spare kiln]

Yes thats exactly what I did, but now check the original skeletal mesh,

The original skeletal mesh is now missing the bones

at least for me 😦

thats my issue

[undone arrow]

Maybe you merged the wrong way?

[spare kiln]

Does your new skeletal mesh now have the bones?

[undone arrow]

I dont have any good meshes to test that with

Yes. It added this bone to this mesh

[spare kiln]

whhhhyyyy

why not for me 😂

[wise hamlet]

Should I not use it?

[undone arrow]

I meant the camera rig rail

[wise hamlet]

I'm sorry I just remembered I used a level sequence and added the camera from there so I'm not sure which cam it is

[wise hamlet]

No...what is that...?

[undone arrow]

Its a curve that your camera moves along

[spare kiln]

So you have your skeletal mesh A, which has the additional bone, then you assign skeleton B form skeletal mesh B to skeletal mesh A, now skeleton B has the bone from skeletal mesh A and skeletal mesh B has them as well?

[undone arrow]

Man thats confusing to read😂

[wise hamlet]

So it will slow the cam down and make it smooth and stuff?

[undone arrow]

You animate one value. And its the cameras position on the curve

so yeas

[wise hamlet]

Ohk

[undone arrow]

0 - 1

[spare kiln]

You have a skeleton & mesh A that have a bone that is not in B.

But after you assign the skeleton B to mesh A now the skeleton & mesh of B have the bone?

[wise hamlet]

Then probably mesh A is the parent

[undone arrow]

Yes. It asked me if I wanted to add the missing bone. But i will need to do a proper test.

[spare kiln]

Hmm maybe I have to play around with it then, because for me It asked me if I want to add the missing bones, but it just added it to the mesh not the skeleton

[undone arrow]

Its weird bec im getting this as well. But I need to do some proper tests, bc I just ended up messing up the mesh

I guess its propably bc that bone was actually weight painted on the main skeleton

[spare kiln]

Yea I think not all are used especially for the simple version

but i don't understand why the new bones for me where not added

[undone arrow]

Ill try with a paragon character

[spare kiln]

sure

but maybe I'll try playing around with it, if I know it should add them to the mesh

[undone arrow]

what does it say when you hover over this in the fab mesh

[spare kiln]

which is probably what I want it to be

[undone arrow]

Yeah.

[spare kiln]

I tried it again, but still ... 😦

[undone arrow]

hmmm

I had to open up an older version of unreal bc paragon wasnt available for 5.5 and now im stuck waiting lol

Ok so I tried exporting out the mesh and importing it as another skeletal mesh but selecting paragon's instead and it crashed on me

But when I changed skeletons from my main mesh it didnt change to paragons animations

[spare kiln]

No for me it is about the bones do they get added?

[undone arrow]

I think my mesh that I was using was too broken. It’s said failed to merge. I’ll try again with manny in a bit.

[spare kiln]

Maybe it was the old manny skeleton

sure no worries, I just wonder what the easiest and best way is to get such animations to work for the other skeleton

if it should be added this way I wonder what is going wrong for me, but atm it just adds the bones to the skeleton

[undone arrow]

Did fab tell you how you were supposed to use the skeleton?

[spare kiln]

Not at all but I need a common denominator

If I get animations, I want to use them with my skeleton and my skeletal mesh, so I need to get the bones required for the animations on my skeletal mesh somehow.
Especially since in the future I'll change the manny mesh to another I need to know how I'm handling this then

[undone arrow]

When I go back inside, I’ll try exporting the merged skeleton out and see if the bones are exported out too

[spare kiln]

it's not about the skeleton

it is about the skeletal mesh

you understand my issue right?

🙈

[undone arrow]

The skeletal mesh missing the bones right?

I’m thinking if both of those get exported out it might be added to the mesh

And just reimport it back in

[spare kiln]

Also I'm pretty sure that the skeletal mesh won't get the bones added automatically as you said right?

I think one way or another I need to add the bones to the skeletal mesh sadly.

[undone arrow]

Looking like it

[acoustic grove]

Finally got past my last hurdle. Revisiting this issue finally. Im curious as to what would cause my MH character not utilizing the sprint feature, and repeating the start animation, while the other mesh doesnt have this issue. Im not sure if it has to do with how the MH and Sandbox character translates.

[undone arrow]

Leaderpose fixed your problem?

[acoustic grove]

The issue stemmed from the source rig in the IK Retargeter. I changed the source rig to another rig with more bones (commom sense got to me a bit late) and that fixed the issues with the limbs not aligning.

Actually gonna cross reference the other rigs to see why those dont have issues either.

[undone arrow]

lol

[acoustic grove]

I dont know if Im even on the right track, noticeable difference I see is the other rigs seem to have less bones than the MH rig. Wondering if I need to delete the MH bones and replicate the 1:1 mirror they have going on

[undone arrow]

Thats one of the reasons I dont just use ue stuff. I take some of it and make it my own bc its so confusing to debug

[undone arrow]

Are you live retargeting?

[acoustic grove]

I am

[acoustic grove]

Yea im starting to notice that lol

[undone arrow]

A verrry verrrry hacky way would just be to live retarget. it. But I think thats what ue does in their sample pack

[acoustic grove]

Yea its already retargeting for like the Echo skin for example

Its quite odd lol. I can use the sandbox character, other characters, its fine.

The MH, randomly registers the sprint

Not sure if it has to do with the physics not reading right and not allowing the sprint to fully go through

[spare kiln]

Ohh I think I need to replace the skeleton vor the animations as well not only for the skeletal mesh

[primal perch]

you can add and edit bones with this plugin

[spare kiln]

yea thats what I'm doing, I just have a few bones I need to add and also in the future if I add another mesh I need to add 20-50 bones to it but it is what is is i guess ^^

[primal perch]

the skull of that plugin gives mad gen z vibes💀

[spare kiln]

But i just realized I need to change the skeleton for the animatiosn as well, does this work well or do i need to retarget?

[spare kiln]

😂😂

[undone arrow]

Retargeting would be tedious as well

[spare kiln]

yea 100% worse then just chaning the skeleton for animations (if it works well)

[undone arrow]

when you change the skeleton on your mesh. You can just reload the mesh

[spare kiln]

I did the retargeting, then you forget a bone on the mesh or bone is not placed 100% same and there are settings you can miss had all of that and then you retarget the animtions 100 time you think everything is ok and year

[undone arrow]

theres a one click retargeter

But I mean i guess you can do live retargeting but it comes at a performance

Youll have the main guy always in your game

hell just be invisible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10o_pG_j06w

But i guess it depends on how ever many people are in your scene at any given point

[spare kiln]

na i just want to change the skeleton for the animations if this is possible, but i think so judging by the optiosn

[undone arrow]

vor?

for?

Youll have to retarget it.

[spare kiln]

why?

[undone arrow]

Bc the animations belong to that skeleton

[undone arrow]

If the bones arent aligned the same its going to end up wonky

[frigid hull]

Hello sorry to interrupt but does anyone know how to fix a skeletal mesh incompatibility error because I imported it from mixamo and I animated it on level sequence and it is not working and saying that error

[undone arrow]

send ss

[spare kiln]

Hmm so retargeting is the way you say?

[frigid hull]

It is on uefn

[undone arrow]

yeah. theres a one click retargeting

just right click the animation

[spare kiln]

I mean the animations appear to be all based on the ue5 skeleton and

[spare kiln]

hmm yea but retargeting takes very long and then something is not right

thats what I'm scared of ^^

[undone arrow]

Have you tried the one click retargeting?

you can preview the animations

[spare kiln]

yea in another project i did the retargeting

[undone arrow]

It doenst take long for me.

[spare kiln]

yea but this are 100+ animations right now

[undone arrow]

Gotchaaaaaaa

[spare kiln]

way more

yea ^^

retargeting takes 20-30 minutes just for one pack

[undone arrow]

how many different characters are you going to have?

[spare kiln]

and then if something is not right ... xD

[undone arrow]

send ss of the error

[spare kiln]

no it's fine for now i think i'll base most of the characters on the same skeleton

so this should be fine

[undone arrow]

aight

[spare kiln]

but getting them all to share the same skeleton ^^

[frigid hull]

This is the error i am making a project and it was working fine no errors and then this came up randomly and i do not know why

ignore the name i got it from sketch fab

[undone arrow]

click the link

I actually dont know how you have an incompatible skeleton. Try reimporting it

[frigid hull]

Oh… I tried that and now it is fucked

Sorry for the bad language I am just irritated because I don’t know how to fix it and it took me ages to make and now the error is gone but its arm is like inside it and it is all messed up

[undone arrow]

Your animations are propbably messed up

send pics

[lavish inlet]

here's a weird one I cannot figure out

[undone arrow]

Can i see the anticipation animation?

[lavish inlet]

as a montage or import file?

[undone arrow]

a video of the montage

[lavish inlet]

i tested it out and it seems that the on cancel - where the gravity is supposed to increase to 12 and pull the player down to the ground is sometimes not firing

[undone arrow]

can you send a ss of that code

But dang you spending a lot of time making that cube look good and you not even gonna use it

[spare kiln]

see i hate this, now I'm already having the issue, that from the animations two have sword_holder socket but they are different now the retargeting already sucks 😂

[undone arrow]

And you said this isnt running all the time?

I just realized something. im seeing that you are playing with the gravity

There are options in the character movement that handles that stuff

Theres also a stop jumping thing I think you should call

[lavish inlet]

yeah that is not good lol

[undone arrow]

lol

[lavish inlet]

that was the first thing I did

this method is much cleaner and more accurate

except for now haha

montage messin with it

[undone arrow]

gotcha

[lavish inlet]

i feel like if I let go of the key during those 2 frames

it doesn't fire the cancel

that's my guess

[undone arrow]

do complete instead

[lavish inlet]

yeah did that too - which is rad cause then you dont even need a delay

but same result

is there a hard cancel for montages?

just like I'm stopping the timeline

[undone arrow]

the stop anim montage does that I think

why do you have stop all anim montages unticked?

[undone arrow]

In this video you sent. im seeing you jumping but the canceled isnt resetting

at like the 12 second mark

[lavish inlet]

oh i meant to check that back when I was testing

[lavish inlet]

stop doesnt' seem to work

[undone arrow]

Im thinking you can maybe lower the actuation threshold of the release on your input maybe

[lavish inlet]

ohhh sick I'll try that

man it's so inconsistent

[undone arrow]

Im thinking too you can maybe change how it functions as well.

can you send a ss of yours

im thinking maybe just have it as hold. Ahh ur missing a delay

have one trigger and make it be hold

ok thats not working

actually i lied. I tested the wrong thing

[lavish inlet]

I had a normal play animation on there before

and it worked totally fine

[undone arrow]

what about this

which is weird bc you were jumping

[lavish inlet]

i was staring at it just now and hitting it over and over

it is technically activating the cancel

but the gravity isn't being set to the cancel

wait

I know what the problem is

hold on

fixed it

jesus

the timeline wasn't getting canceled

for some reason during that time that a montage is active, it seems that other logic cannot exist inside it

so i set a .1 second delay on the cancel

[undone arrow]

nope. not ...... hmmmm

[lavish inlet]

yeah its working 100% now lol

[undone arrow]

cool cool. Ii knew i was right

[lavish inlet]

even a .01 delay works great

I do think the actuation is a good call too for even more tight feel

[undone arrow]

I was just kidding lol. I added ur missing a delay at the end of the sentence. youdid all the work

[lavish inlet]

hey now - this was a team effort

it's really nice having someone to chat with through this stuff

very much appreciated

[undone arrow]

Oh yea man. no problem. loving what you cooking up

[lavish inlet]

ahh thank you! I hope it turns out fun

learning unreal / BPs has been so freaking fun

[undone arrow]

All for ue. Ue is the best. So many features

I like bp bc im more of an artist than a programmer and I dont feel too restricted with it

[lavish inlet]

nice! me too

my goal is to be a solo dev

been working in games for a while

[undone arrow]

Solo devving can get tough. Learning to scope is so important

[lavish inlet]

what is your project??

oh yeah I've been around long enough to know how to scope properly

i actually released a game on steam back in 2016

and have worked on other games before and after that

scope is a huge deal to me

[undone arrow]

I still struggle with it. butttt we would need to talk outside of this channel

[lavish inlet]

haha for sure

[undone arrow]

idek what other channel. Im still new here 😂

[lavish inlet]

you can add me if you want!

[spare kiln]

I'm trying to retarget some animations, but now I have an issue, where on the skeletons a bone is named weapon_l and Weapon_L but I can't rename it on the skeleton with the skeleton edit plugin but after retargeting the animtions are not correct. I think this might be the issue, any idea what I can do or how to rename it?

[undone arrow]

by editing the generated retarget

just replace the weapon

but editing it in blender and reimporting would be the option that I choose

[spare kiln]

but is this the issue?

[undone arrow]

Did you look at the generated retarget ik

did the bones not match up

[primal perch]

Does someone now how to fix this weapon jiggle? its caused by unreals interpolation and only happening between the frames of my baked out animation.

[sharp root]

Dm @primal perch

[remote phoenix]

Hello, can I have some pointers on how to implement a "counter" type ability? I think it is like the "inverse" of the finisher/execute ability maybe?
The thing that I struggle is the snapping.
I have 2 animation basically yeah? Attacker being countered and defender doing the counter. But, their hands and body are rotated and located at the baked locations.
What I think I need is to add some procedural animation techniques here to slightly reposition the hands for the counter ability to make the snapping less obvious.
Any tips on how to do that?

[undone arrow]

If money isn’t a problem maybe dragon ik plugin

I’m not too familiar with the control rig but it may also be able to help you. There’s also two bone ik you can do research into

[undone arrow]

Do share with the class your solution if you got one

[undone arrow]

A solution I just thought of would be to attach your sword to the ground when it hits the floor, and reattach it back to the bone

Using anim notify

[primal perch]

That is pretty much what Im doing in casc, just with a constraint to an independent transformer object

[undone arrow]

Well Cascadeur is a whole other app. Unreal does not subscribe to it. Unreal also does not care about the most of the things you do in your bones in blender either. If you have an ik rig in blender, you’ll have to make a new one in unreal

I think you’ll have to make your own custom parenting solution

It’s not hard to recreate

[primal perch]

Well, that is my custom dynamic parenting solution, as in the plan was to simulate that via a constraint in casc, then bake out the anim so unreal doesnt have to care about it but just plays the animation.

[undone arrow]

Then you’ll have to make the animation without the constraint and counter the parents offset

Ahhh I see what you are trying to do

The baked animation should already have the proper position

[primal perch]

Pretty sure unreals interpolation shouldnt work like that. Actually found 2 forum posts that the interpolation is broken since 5.2 or smth

[primal perch]

Correct

With unreal simply interpolating from one location to the next

[undone arrow]

What is it interpolating if it’s reading your animation frame by frame

Are you adding more frames?

[primal perch]

Its interpolating to its parent (hand) between frames

Or rather it tries

[undone arrow]

There shouldn’t be between frames is what I’m saying

[primal perch]

I mean the frames unreal "inserts" to interpolate

[undone arrow]

Try to disable that then if it’s possible

How many frames does your animation have

In casc

[primal perch]

That step interpolation. Step works as it should, but then the animation gets choppy and I couldnt use slowmo effects in my game anymore as that would make my anims look like stop motion lol

[primal perch]

Uhh...around 112 or smth

Same amount as in unreal

[undone arrow]

Can you send a video of your stepped interpolation?

[primal perch]

If you give me 2 minutes to get on my pc

[undone arrow]

If there’s a frame on every frame then stepped shouldn’t be choppy

If you already had your inbetween frames

[primal perch]

It is choppy because it is not interpolating anymore, its like using no interpolation in cascadeur

[undone arrow]

Keep interpolation in casc. Use stepped in unreal

Stepped would basically function like interpolation if the animation changes every frame

[primal perch]

step is just unreals "no interpolation" term

as its just snapping from one frame to the next

keep in mind its looks smooth only becuzase I remade the anim in 60 fps instead of 30. but the slower I set the playback speed (slowmo effect) the choppier it gets, due to it becoming more visible that it just snaps to the next frame instead of interpolating to it

[undone arrow]

There’s a rate scale option on the left hand side

[primal perch]

thast just the global playback speed setting

for this anim

[undone arrow]

So what’s the problem?

[primal perch]

that unreals interpolation cares for parenting relations instead of just interpolating from one bone location to the next

it shouldnt

its a baked out keyframe animation, every frame is predetermined, there is no need for unreal to apply parent movement to a child bone

[undone arrow]

That seems out of our control lol

[primal perch]

Everywhere I looked, people keep saying, "use a dedicated weapon bone for your weapons". Than I do that the way Unreal does it, by using mannequins sk and its still not working

my setup is pretty much textbook example of how to utilize manny weapon bones

from a set up perspective

have the dedictaed bone, animate it seperately outside of unreal via a constraint. bake all frames.

thats how it should work

[undone arrow]

And it does for the most part no? The only time it breaks is when you add new frames

[primal perch]

with me being able do do whatever funky things I want in the anim software and unreal doing nothing else but reading the frame data

[undone arrow]

That weren’t baked

[primal perch]

I dont really "add" frames

[undone arrow]

Changing the frame rate adds frames I believe

[primal perch]

well, to change it from 30 to 60 I doubled the amount of frames in total yeah

like doubled every interval in casc so the speed remains the same

[undone arrow]

So the problem seems like it arises when you add new unbaked frames into the mix

[primal perch]

Unreal does it, not me

but it has to for interpolation

[undone arrow]

My solution would be to disable interpolation for that specific animation

Have it exactly as it should be in Cascadeur

[primal perch]

if it would be only for that animation...

[undone arrow]

Any animation where you throw your weapon

[primal perch]

its an issue that will arise again as soon as I try to animate the weapon bone out of the hand

like Imagine an Emote or smth where the character is playing a little with its weapon. Nothing fancy but the weapon leaves the hand here and there.
Couldnt do that

The most annoying part is, that I know there is a way to achieve what I want. Because there are plenty of games out there who do exactly what I want...

but seemingly they use the same way I do it

but mine doestn work

[undone arrow]

They use unreal?

[undone arrow]

These animations look fine to me

[primal perch]

There are fighting games made with unreal

that involve weapon throw mechanics

or generally let go of it for a period of time

[undone arrow]

It’s probably unparented from the hand when it’s released

If it’s not animated

[primal perch]

It does only because its 60 fps.

imagine Id have a slow mo mechanic in my game. like a debuff that slows you down or smth

that would look very very stuttery

with step

because no interpolation

[undone arrow]

True. Depends on how slow u make the person

Buttttt. You see how much time you are spending trying to find the perfect way? Just work around it. That interpolation problem seems inside the engine

[primal perch]

yeah, but Im building my game in the engine

so it needs to work xd

[undone arrow]

It can work. Just have a bone outside th hand parenting

For your emotes

And just swap back and forth

[primal perch]

did that aswell. Issue is that then hand and weapon are not matching up on every frame

[undone arrow]

User error

You can still do your constraints in casc

[primal perch]

the constraints in cas work flawlessly

[undone arrow]

I was able to fix my

[primal perch]

this is the same animation with the weapon bone being a child of the root instead of the hand

[undone arrow]

You exported that out af cascadeur fixed?

[primal perch]

I have two skeletons

the one we made a few days ago

and oG mannequin

[undone arrow]

When you have the points of your sword selected and right click on the hand joint,

And have these like this, you can copy the swords position and rotation in relation to the hand

So on a frame where the sword is in the correct position, ctrl c. and ctrl v on the rest. Where the sword is supposed attached to the hand

[primal perch]

its already where it belongs

mind, the waepon bone here is a children of the root,so I had to to constrain it to the hand when the weapon is hold

otherwise it wouldnt follow the hand between keyframes

[undone arrow]

My weapon wasnt constrained

try this animation

hmm i guess it was constrained. But i didnt edit the file you sent me so Idk what it was constrained to

[primal perch]

here you can see where its constrained to

the constraint is only there to make it easier for me to animate thw eapon in casc

I could also paste and copy the location of the sword being stuck in the ground every keyframe

but this gets tedious

and every change to the hand would move the weapon aswell

So I'd have ro readjust the weapon transform everytime I change something

the contraint takes care of that by allowing me to place the weapon anywhere, and it just stays there betwwen keyframes

once the animation is done im exporting all frames baked out

´this is how it makes sense to do, and how others do it

be it in Blender, Maya, cas or wherever

the principle is always the same.

[undone arrow]

You can copy and paste a value into an interval

[primal perch]

yea, but Id still have to correct the weapon position every time I change the characters hand on the respective frame

So i figure out the pose, put the weapon where its supposed to be at that frame and when I now have to readjust the character just a little, it moves the weapon aswell, so I have to fix the weapon too

to make this process easier, I used constraints

which "overrides" the parent relationship when I need it (Weapon out of hand).

[undone arrow]

hmmmm

quite the predicament

[primal perch]

Thats how its done. Thats how Im told/read its done.

I do it

It doesnt work

I think technically it shouldnt matter if I the weapon is a child of the root and constrained to the hand or if the weapon is a child of the root and parented to an independent empty thats just how it needs to be in cascadeur to animate the weapon properly, without having to keyframe every frame an utilize interpolation in casc. After exporting the animation is baked out and Unreal should simply play every baked out frame with interpolation from one bone location to the next.

The way I do it in cascadeur should be irrelevant to unreal

And it is.

But because of that Unreal is doing their own interpolation. And it does that wrong.

That moment between frames where unreal interpolates - it lets the hand bone influence the the weapon, therefore the weapon moves. But it will move back until it reaches the next "actual" animation frame

[undone arrow]

Have you tried asking on epics website?

[primal perch]

Can I dynamically change a bone from fk to ik in unreal?

[primal perch]

Not yet

[undone arrow]

No idea. That seems like something youd be able to do in control rig.

Actually I think so

hold on

[primal perch]

I just the thought that perhaps bcs its fk, the weapon bone moves with the hand. If I set it to ik, it shouldnt move

But rather adjust everything else to it

[undone arrow]

Idk. The method I was thinking of is inside the abp and youd lose the animation you had on the bone so not applicable

[remote phoenix]

Thanks ill try

[pale elk]

hello,
I have made some adjustement to the bone of the left arm of this animation to better fit the weapon, but each time I save and quit, the adjustment are no longer here. How can I save the new bone positions please ?

[pale elk]

oh nice thank you ! So I just need to add a key to the begining after placing my bones right ?

[undone arrow]

Yes

[pale elk]

also i have an other question, is it common to have multiple socket for same item but different animations ? For example my rifle socket for idle animation doesnt suit the one for aiming

[undone arrow]

Im not entirely sure but its up to you. There are multiple ways to do things. If it works it works (to an extent. There are better ways of doing things)

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[inland ridge]

I want to add (simple) ladder climbing to the gasp project. I already have animations, I can make a state machine for the logic, I can make vertical movement, but how do I actually use it in the gasp animbp, without actually spending days learning what they did over there (don't have time, will never use it again). any resource for this?

[fossil bough]

does anyone know if its possible to make a runtime attached SK mesh, perform rigid body simulation againts itself and its attached parent (which happens to be another skel mesh)?

I'd love to keep this on animation-land, currently using the RigidBody node, but the RBAN world object collisions is really slow and jittery... and I really didn't want to write my own haha

Open to suggestions or alternatives

[twin plinth]

anyone else having problems with uefn mannequin when trying to add virtual bones from the head to any bone. For some odd reason when i try to add a virtual bone from the head to hand_r it's not connecting to the hand_r bone but it's floating in the air, but other bones seem to work fine

[raven trench]

does anybody know why this control rig doesnt work, when I rotate any of the points the rig moves but nothing happens to the character.

[inland ridge]

is this the right approach? i want to toggle items in left and right hands, none, either or both at the same time

[grave drift]

Im slowing down my attacks at the start and end of an animation, to add the feeling of power. Works perfectly on the upper body, attacks feel more powerful and less all over the place in comparison to the original animation - however, the legs move slower. Is there a way I could slow down the montage speed and have that just affect the upper body? 🤔 The attack montage is already playing on the upper body only, while lower body is jogging.

[undone arrow]

Can you send a video?

[grave drift]

Its just for a brief moment at the beginning of the swing

[undone arrow]

How are you slowing the animation down?

[grave drift]

By changing the montage’s Play rate.

[primal perch]

@undone arrow I did it

Im finally free

I can retire in peace now

[undone arrow]

Retire me with you😭. I honestly forgot what ur problem was.

[primal perch]

The independent weapon animation

[undone arrow]

How’d you solve it?

[primal perch]

In a nutshell, turns out you have to use the IK hand gun bone instead if the weapon bone to attach props.

I assume that has something to do with the IK rig doing something with the ik gun bone but not with the weapon bones.

So you have to animate the ik hand/feet bones along with their counterparts and are then free to animate the ik hand gun bone, or rather just fully constrain it to the weapon mesh in the anim software

I have yet to figure out how to properly constraint the hand gun bone to a mesh in casc, but its working now with the default mannequin skeleton as it should.

In fact I even found a reddit post talking about the devs of Borderlands 3 who had faced the exact same issue as I did now with weapon bone. They seemed to have fixed it by simply cranking up the fps of their animations so Unreal has no real time to interpolate between keyframes, but that seemed like a whacky workaround for me so I digged deeper and deeper until I had enough pieces to put the puzzle together and realize what I had to do - animate on the Ik hand gun bone instead of the weapon bone.

[undone arrow]

So what you are saying is that I was right

???

[primal perch]

Idk what did you say?

[undone arrow]

Having your weapon bone parented to the root functions the same basically

[undone arrow]

Through the montage play node or on the montage itself

[primal perch]

Yes but having the bone to use for the weapon be parented directly to the root, requires updating the skeleton

I wanted to use the default mannequin as it comes to make my animations as I dont have to update and retarget all their starterpack anims

It bothered me that the default mannequin had the aporopriate bone structure already theoretically but that I couldnt figure out how

[woven bridge]

Is there a reason why Character-->Mesh-->AnimInstance-->PlayMontage not working with root motion ?
The "PlayMontage" node that we can call on event graph works without a problem...

*Montages are working... just rootmotion is not playing as it should be...

[undone arrow]

Do you have root motion enabled in the abp?

[woven bridge]

Its ''RootMotionFromMontagesOnly'' selected...

[grave drift]

Through the montage play node

[undone arrow]

im assuming the animation does have root motion right. do you have root motion enabled on the animation itself?

[buoyant geyser]

still trying to figure this one out if anyone has any suggestions

[fringe hamlet]

I am importing animations from Blender and it looks different from what is in Blender. The arms or my character are using the IK control positions even though I only have FK positions in my animation for the rig. Anyone know why Unreal isn't using FK for the arms?

[woven bridge]

It does have root motion... Also root motion is enabled for the animations...

Like i said, root motion works just not properly...

The problem is, if i use anim instance to play montage, character goes down to floor and play animation... Like have a gravity...
If i use the normal play montage, animation starts at correct position where players sits on the seat of the vehicle...

I think movement component or capsule component have a effect on anim instance-->play montage, idk any ideas ?

[lethal blaze]

is there a way to use the retarget animation on facial blendshapes?

[undone arrow]

The abp does say extract root motion from montages only. But can you send a video of the problem.

[stuck pike]

hey, can someone please explain how to make a super basic animation in sequencer ? youtube channels arent helping. I want to make an oar / rowing animation; this is simple enough, I have an oar, i converted it to a skeletal mesh, put it in sequencer, made 3 keyframes, but then the issue of saving it comes; im saving it as an animation, it doesnt work; if, when saving im selecting "record in world space" then its working but the oar fucks off to some far away place on the map. What am I missing ? UE 5.5

[woven bridge]

Yes it does...

[compact shell]

Has anyone made a video on how to get a smaller character to work for the game animations sample?

[compact shell]

is the retarget from pose the best way to use the animations in the animation game sample project? can you build your game just of that?

[undone arrow]

It’s probably colliding with the environment?

[fringe hamlet]

When I import this animation from Blender, why is my animation using the IK controls(top) for the arm position instead of the FK ones that have keyframes?

[twin plinth]

Does anyone know the answer to this

[lost wraith]

If I wanted to create a "living cave", would anyone have a decent idea on how to go about that? I am trying to make a cave that leads into the stomach of a large creature. I wanted the walls and floors to move and seem like they are breathing. I thought I could maybe create multiple sections of skeletal meshes and animate them. But I didn't know that would be an optimal way of doing it. Also didn't know if using a skeletal mesh as the floor would be fine. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, thanks.

[wraith goblet]

Anybody know how to make an animation loop without snapping to the first frame, which is slightly different from the last?

[lunar kindle]

guys is it better to use cloth simulation on character with skirt or better to animate with armatures and rig? im just wondering cause my clothing simulation looks awful all times

[undone arrow]

Material world position offset on a static mesh

[undone arrow]

Why are the first and last frames different?

[undone arrow]

Seems like you might have answered your question. Experiment with both and see maybe

[rustic pond]

hey everyone, i migrated lyra's animation locomotion into my project and im running into a problem. when a client is watching another player strafe by spammign A and D, the first strafe looks good, but then all other strafes after the first dont have any procedural animation. it resets whenever the player stops strafing and repeats again. anyone know what is going on? thanks

[lost wraith]

Thank you for this. Looks promising. I appreciate it.

[pale leaf]

Idk if this falls under animations, but i am trying to tweak the sandbox character. It's being rotated and controlled by the ABP it seems like, so kinda tricky to make it do what i want. Basically i want to lock the camera, face the direction of movement (this part works) but i also want it to face the mouse cursor location while running in any direction.
Ideas?

[tiny mirage]

has anyone ever played with this "render static" setting on skeletal mesh optimization tab?
what would you even want to use it for?

my mind is wandering to a class type that can swap between skeletal and vertex animated on the fly, but you'd lose any instancing so idk why you would

[loud lodge]

Hey guys, I am trying to replace a skeleton on a character in my game. The old character/skeleton has an animation blueprint and other animation asset references.

What is an easy way to replace the skeleton with the new one and replace all the references to the new one?

[crimson bone]

is anyone well versed in animation retargeting? its kinda a new topic to me coming from Unity, im trying to basically retarget a mixamo animation to a character in the GASP, i have the UEFN manny retargeted to my custom character, idk how to integrate mixamo animations to that

basicallly this

[mellow urchin]

is there a way to invert the constant interpolation?

[mellow urchin]

<@&213101288538374145> errrm took me a while to realize

[cloud lodge]

?

[mellow urchin]

look very closely

or am i going insaine

[cloud lodge]

oh didnt see that on mobile

[somber briar]

it's just a picture of some kind of broom thing...

[mellow urchin]

i asked some friends. my bad i guess

[mellow urchin]

now

[lofty bane]

hey everyone hope someone can help :). the first video is how it should be working and the second video is the problem. when I change the animation slot to the new one i created, the character no longer rotates towards the forward direction.

[smoky nexus]

Does the GetNotifyName in AnimNotifies (I'm making a custom BP version) only fire when you first add it to the animation graph? I have a bool set up to switch the name, pending the bool type and it never updates when I change the bool from the animation details panel. I'm in 5.5

Ohh what, I just switched the bool and then moved the notify and it did update the name. But if I play the animation it does not update the name

[torpid berry]

Can anyone help me or point me to resources for blending random/procedural animations with hand keyed assets?

I can see how to do a lot of what i want to do in blueprints but wondering if there are better ways in anim_BPs or montages

mostly looking to, add a random rotation over the length of an animation - a coin rotating right and left and it spins
and combining two random animations in one call - animation A) a coin spinning and landing, animation B) the coin bouncing (both can blend on the same keyframes)

[undone arrow]

Trjy motion warping

[undone arrow]

Can you send ss, videos?

[spare basalt]

Hey there folks!
Hope you're all having a great day/night.

I am spawning a few actors at once, they all share the same anim bp and as a result are all in their idle state at the exact same time, creating a bit of an awkward synchronized breathing contest.
Is there any way to stagger them a bit so they aren't all mirrored?

[jolly shell]

I just came across this Interchange stuff because of Character Creator Autosetup mentions that this should be disabled for 5.5 workflow (https://courses.reallusion.com/home/character-creator/pipelines-and-render/unreal?v=updated-workflow-for-unreal-engine-5-5-auto-setup-|-character-creator-4-tutorial) - no answer on their discord channel about WHY this should be done. Disabling these Plugins interferes with others, e.g. Fab plugin which relies on this. So I kept them enabled, found no problems yet. Anyway, when importing FBX, I actually do not see any difference in the Import dialogue at all, also no Essentials checkbox you mention. Only thing I found is Show Import Dialogue at Reimport in editor preferences and some Pipeline and Translator Pipeline definitions in project settings. I must admit - this does completely confuse me... So what does that Interchange actually mean for the standard user, who simply imports assets like Skeletal Meshes, not doing any Datasmith or gltf stuff at all? Thanks for some quick guidance into the right direction.

[eternal copper]

Hello , when i try and play these animations before the previous one is done , the animation gets "stuck" on the first frame of the animation , this is the locomotion setup and is set up to play a certain animation when a value is true what am i doing wrong here?

[smoky nexus]

For sure! See attached

[lofty bane]

could you be a little more specific?

[undone arrow]

Ohh ok I think I see your problem a bit better now. Can you send a ss of where they’ve placed their default slot

[undone arrow]

This isn’t the entire screen. I think I’m missing some valuable information. But you should be using an interface call to your blueprint and call that from inside the animation

[smoky nexus]

Ohh yeah I'm on a wide screen. That first BP is an anim notify graph. base class animnotify.

[undone arrow]

This is how I do mines. It calls the footprint function inside of my blueprints which hands the animations informatin

[smoky nexus]

Right, but that's not quite what I am after. I am looking for proper updating the name of the anim notify in the animation graph. As per the video you can see that it won't update unless I move the notify in the graph

[undone arrow]

I guess im just misunderstanding then

oh wait its not a montage

you can still update the information by calling a direct function

[smoky nexus]

So sorry 😅 In an anim notify, there is the function GetNotifyName that you can override. That function seems to only be called when you move a notify in the animation graph? I think?

[undone arrow]

When you say animation graph what do you mean. The ABP?

[smoky nexus]

oops sorry Animation Sequence assets

[undone arrow]

I believe so.

buttt lemme check something

Where are you trying to access the animation?

[undone arrow]

not using choosers. Are your animations set to loop?

[smoky nexus]

I'm just in editor. Just like in the video. It's the 3rd person template content. So just opening up the MF_Run_Fwd asset and adding in my custom notify. But I couldn't figure out a way to update the asset on bool switch

[undone arrow]

What asset are you trying to update?

[torpid berry]

Can anyone help me or point me to resources for blending random/procedural animations with hand keyed assets?
I can see how to do a lot of what i want to do in blueprints but wondering if there are better ways in anim_BPs or montages
mostly looking to, add a random rotation over the length of an animation - a coin rotating right and left and it spins
and combining two random animations in one call - animation A) a coin spinning and landing, animation B) the coin bouncing (both can blend on the same keyframes)

is there a way in animation blueprints or montages to procedural append two seperate animations

[undone arrow]

additive animations

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flHL3qJB3_I&t=41s this might be able to help?

[torpid berry]

not quite
its somewhat close, as its calculating an acceleration and adding it. which i might work
I was hoping to determine a pose randomly and have the animation lerp to it in the span of its playtime

[undone arrow]

Theres a pose snapshot

[torpid berry]

-in this specific case adding a random yaw to a spining coin as it moves

[undone arrow]

blend space and have a random value driving it

an additive blendspace maybe?

[torpid berry]

hmm yeah a blend space is great for the range of outcomes

i just need it to lerp to the blend space location in sync with the animation being played

eg- there are multiple flip animations
i want the blend space lerp to map to the lenght of the played animation

eg

12 frames to move, or 35, or 10 etc etc

[undone arrow]

oof. Seems like overkill for a coin . is the coin the whole game

😭

[torpid berry]

oh yeah its a major ui element

on par with the d20 of baulders gate

[undone arrow]

Its tickling my brain. It feels like I have something in my mind

[torpid berry]

yeah the other part of system is
i have 2 arrays of animations
spins to land + land to settle

I want to randomly combine animations from each array
the land keyframe on all of them are identical

is the best way to execute this just literally in BP with
Anim1 -> Anim2

or is there a path in anim BP or montage that would serve me better

[undone arrow]

chooser players. But my brain😂 . Can you send a video of two of them

one from each

[torpid berry]

ha, i will when they are animated
wanted to think through the implementation

and chooser player, is that in anim bp?

[undone arrow]

yes. Its so powerful

[torpid berry]

hmm yeah that solves problem 2

the next quesiton is can i animate a blend space over the run of an animation

[undone arrow]

Can you elaborate

are the coins spinning for a set amount of time? Is it random?

besides the point. Im thinking you can play a montage at the end

your lands could be montages

and just choose which one to play based on the direction that the coin is facing when its landing

Ill need to mockup stuff and see. Its hurting my brain too much now I gotta scratch the itch

[undone arrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N26-uYMJKNs heyyyyyy. What you think about this?

[torpid berry]

Dang that's cool
I can recreate that with the control rig thankfully
As I've got some of the animations done lol

[undone arrow]

Yeah. I think youd have endless possibilites too.

[torpid berry]

set ammount based on spin animation

[torpid berry]

maybe
i can just rotate the root and all the settles can play in any direction

[torpid berry]

so where can i find info on the chooser node

[undone arrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-03Xm2oZK_Y&t=1479s

[torpid berry]

thanks

hmm this might be more than i need lol

but hmmm

[undone arrow]

Its simpler than that. But thats just how to kinda use it.

[torpid berry]

normally how would you play chained animations

litereally
animation a + b outside of montoges

[torpid berry]

and also is there a way to blend to a target point on a blend space over an animation

say i have a blend of .5 in a "Coin Direction" space

and i have a 22 and a 33 frame animation that can play

is there a way for both of them to smoothly blend to that .5 in the blend space by the end of the animation

hmm if i could have a float track animatied

[undone arrow]

You can @ me btw yk. You can use animations notifies inside of the animation to drive some logic maybe.

Can i see your coin direction space?

[torpid berry]

right now its fairly simple
bones are
Root -> Position -> Spin

[undone arrow]

Hmmm. Control rig is out of my skill set for now. I was thinking maybe literally recreating the blender rig inside of ue. And connect your "ik" bones to the controls. And just play with the values in bp. When its spinning. I actually dont even know if its possible to play with "ik" bones like that

[torpid berry]

i can figure that element out
i'm not that woried

the bigger question i have is how to propery set up a blend space

where -1 = -360, 0 = 0, and 1 = 360 degree turns

[undone arrow]

That should be easy no?

are your animations looping?

[torpid berry]

they are not looping - this whole system is determining an outcome - so its a play and stop

and i can't figure out how to set up a proper blend space with just a set of poses
only taking animations etc and the resources i'm finding only use them to blend complex animations

[undone arrow]

hmmm.

why not have the ends spinning

-1 and 1

have two blend spaces

for your spins left and right and one for up and down

add them together, and possibly do an alpha lerp to the position it landed on

My ue keeps crashing so cant really show

[torpid berry]

could do that
but yeah i'd love to see how you set up that blend space

i need some better tutorials on the anim blueprint and montage side of things

[undone arrow]

I think my ue was just crashing bc of the project I was trying to open. But ill see

Actually as im playing around with it im seeing a potential solution.

[undone arrow]

I mean it kinda works i think. Just needs more blends

I think you can have an additive one. Lemme Experiment

I think a blend space is all you need really.

Two blendspaces. One for spinning and one for leaning

[acoustic kestrel]

does anyone know whats going on here?

the skeleton is fine its only when i import the animation that it does this

and the same thing happens to my other model that i have but with a different animation

[cinder ginkgo]

Hey I have a general question about root motion. I have a dashing attack animation I am using as a montage to play. When the dash is occuring, the pawn should be able to pass through other pawns. So before playing the animation I set its collision object type to a custom created one that ignores pawns. What I've found is that as long as im not playing an animation, I can move through that pawn using that channel. If I play the dash animation using root motion, it seems to get caught on my player character. I only need root motion to give me the physical location of the pawn, I dont want it doing any physics checks but I cant figure out how to disable that.

[torpid berry]

wow actually you're right
i was thinking of using the blend spaces for something else but yeah
that looks great

[torpid berry]

i'd love to see a walk thorugh of what each point on the blend is

this is a bit better than what i was thinking of doing

[undone arrow]

It’s something I’d need to experiment with But the point on the left is spin left. Point on the right is spin right point at the top is spin forward. Points on the bottom are the heads or tails

[novel viper]

Hello. Is there any way to make anim notifies fire when using frame evaluation (frame based animations)?

[undone arrow]

It does need some work. The bones. It needs to spin from the middle in the air and spin from the bottom on the floor. I’m thinking a bool to just switch blend spaces can deal with that orrr. It can all be in one blend space but it does need more animations. I looked at the coin rig in blender and it spins differently when it’s landing so I, thing that it itself can be an animation as well

[undone arrow]

Have you tried? I don’t see why it shouldn’t work

[novel viper]

Yeah I have tried many times, they don't fire. I use frame evaluation for weapon reload animations which are tied to the reload percentage.

[undone arrow]

Can u send a video

Are you using montages?

And a ss of inside ur anim notify

[novel viper]

No it's just a normal non-montage animation with a play sound notify

Can record a video, sure

gimme a few mins

[undone arrow]

Set movement mode to flying

[undone arrow]

I’m assuming the animation isn’t being imported in correctly

[novel viper]

@undone arrow In the video you can hear a shield shattering sound effect in the animation window (just a test sound). Then when playing and when the rocket launcher reload animation plays, the shatter sound can not be heard.

When I play the animation normally (non frame evaluation version) it DOES play as intended

Ah wait I found it!

turning this off fixes it

What is the downside though of turning this off. The animation still seems to work correctly. But I wonder what teleporting does. 🤔

Hmm even the docs just say to turn it off without any explanation as to why it's set to true by default

Gotta love that lol

"Yeah your problem is caused by this setting, just turn it off"
"Okay, but why is set to this by default?"
"Dunno"

[undone arrow]

Funnily I’ve never encountered that problem

[solid valve]

Does anyone know why my animation is unable to lift off the ground? It looks like Unreal removes the "Z" axis on my animation when it's played in the world when I have Enable Root Motion checked. Is this a rigging problem?

For example, I have the animation leap into the air and do a flip. But in reality it just flops on the ground.

I thought maybe gravity was actively fighting it so I disabled it to test things out but it just flopped around regardless... just... floating in the air this time.

The model, rig, and animation are all made by me. And frankly I'm just lost on what's causing it. The animation looks fine when viewing it, and even plays fine without root motion with the exception that the hitbox doesn't follow it.

[undone arrow]

Set movement mode to flying

#control-rig

[outer garden]

oh my, scroll down a bit more and there it is 😆

[solid valve]

Oh thank you, wasn't even aware of a "movement mode". I'll hunt that down and try it out when I can, thank you!

[undone arrow]

Don’t forget to set it back to walking during the animation

[solid valve]

During the animation? You mean once the walking animation needs to be retriggered after the "jump" animation?

[rose mural]

ok what the heck even is control rig "initial" transform - for some reason, it seems like it's always the base pose of the skeletal mesh asset, not the pose I'm passing in as the "source" pose in the anim bp

source pose being fed into control rig node

pose if there's nothing in the rig graph:

pose generated from control rig using "initial" transform of the feet

what I want is for the feet to be as they are in the first picture but alligned with the ground. Previously, I was grabbing the "current" transform of the bones on the first frame but I suspect this is causing problems for certain actors in my game

[fading mason]

Hey friends! I'm a programmer starting to explore control rigs. From what I can tell, so far, it seems like I could achieve the same kind of "rigging" just using traditional animation blueprints. Am I overlooking something? Does control rig offer any unique capabilities that aren't possible with animation BPs, or is it more of an alternative workflow? One that's closer to how things are done in 3D software and more geared towards animators rather than programmers?

[cunning locust]

has someone found an easy way to implement the gasp onto an already existing player blueprint, via anim blueprint only or something? i got a fully written char, but it would take months to fully convert everything to gasp. i would rather just have a simple anim bp where i can add layers for my montages and so on.

[cunning locust]

control rigs are for animation creaton, anim bp usualy for executing animations. but if you found a way, its good for you, but i wonder how you wanna bake those animations when they are done without a control rig?

[fading mason]

In my case, I don't need to bake animations. I have skeletal mesh with a physics asset. Some bones are driven by physics simulation. Others are going to be animated to adjust to the physics simulation. Similar to what you can see at https://youtu.be/Wc6lUXOhRO0?t=714&si=cYLCyoURfV1Dtp71.

So, your answer pretty much aligns with my impressions so far. Control Rigs seem to be mainly a tool for animators to create and edit animation clips or sequencer animations directly in Unreal. But when it comes to real-time procedural animation, like handling bone transforms in IK setups, it looks like everything can be done directly in animation blueprints without needing a Control Rig. What I’d love to hear from you all is whether there’s more to it that makes it worth diving deeper into it. Am I missing any key advantages?

[rose mural]

I'm not aware of being able to set bone transforms/do procedural animation in the anim bp - AFAIK you do that in control rig (and I'm currently struggling mightily to make my control rig procedural animation work)

[fading mason]

Oh yeah, procedural bone transformations have been possible long before Control Rigs came around. A classic example is foot placement using IK, but honestly, you can achieve pretty much anything you can think of directly in animation blueprints.

[undone arrow]

Whenever you stop ascending in your animation. You can use a montage notify and set your players movement mode back to walking

[solid valve]

Gotcha, thanks for the tips!

[rose mural]

...I am an idiot. The source pose is just the pose when we enter forward solve

[steady sandal]

How to Ensure a Full Step Animation Completes When Tapping "W" in Motion Matching?

I'm using Unreal Engine's motion matching system for character movement. Currently, when I tap the "W" key, the character starts taking a step forward, but because I'm not holding the key, the system immediately blends back to idle in an unnatural way.

I want to modify this behavior so that when I tap "W," the character fully completes the step animation before transitioning back to idle, rather than blending out prematurely.

Is this possible within the motion matching system? If so, what would be the best way to achieve this?

[fading mason]

Hey, friends! I have a skeletal mesh where some bones are driven by physics simulation. However, when I try to get this bone’s transform in the Animation Blueprint, it returns the pre-simulation (non-physics) transform instead of the updated simulated one. Is there a way to access the actual simulated transform from the Animation Blueprint?

[stone kindle]

Hi I have horse model I am rigging and skinning. When I rotate the horses neck down the mane hair stretches really bad. See my attached screenshots. I do not want the mane hair to stretch and need it to look natural. Is this a geometry issue, weight painting, not enough bones, etc? I am new to rigging and skinning and not sure how to go forward

[undone arrow]

Looks like weight painting to me

[hollow moat]

Hey does anyone know why my camera isnt following my ads, someone said it was because of aim rotation which is linked here but never told if anyhing was wrong?

[warm island]

is there a way to add an offset to an animation so that the hand lays somewhere or attaches to the surface of somewhere? I'm not really interested in IK, since i just have the hands visible, I'm using the transform bone node but I'm trying to figure out how to get it to offset towards an object

[spare kiln]

hey guys, I'm using motion matching with chooser tables, but I wonder, is it possible to use animations for transitioning from idle to walk or jump start animation with it?
If so do you have and directions on how to do it?

[torpid berry]

can some one help me with blend spaces?

even in unreal's documentation it states you can place poses in blend spaces
but i can't drag pose assets in ??

i'm really confused here

[undone arrow]

Place a still of the animation

[torpid berry]

yeah actually figured it oout
pose assets being something totally different from 1 frame animations lol

[undone arrow]

I’ve never done it through poses so idek if that is possible

[torpid berry]

i do have an issue of creating a blend space still

trying to make it so
-1 = -360 , 0 = 0, 1=360

but its treating all of the poses as identical so its not interpolating at all

[undone arrow]

So we’re poses working?

[torpid berry]

yeah i have the 1 frame animations

[undone arrow]

That’s odd they aren’t interpolating then

Can you send a ss

[torpid berry]

all set to looping

animation ex

[undone arrow]

Is it spinning on Z?

[torpid berry]

yeah

but its treating all 3 states as identical

so its not rotating

-360, 0, 360

[undone arrow]

Go in your details panel and check the bones rotation

I don’t think unreal goes to 360

So the pose might have to be 359. I think blender is the same

360 is 0.

But unreal goes to like -180 to 180 I think

[torpid berry]

yeah its all reading as 0

[undone arrow]

It instantly swaps when the rotation passes that threshold

Your animations don’t have any spin

Why is it spinning that way?

[torpid berry]

so when its 359 it just lerps from 0 to -1

it does not wrap the correct way

and the whole reason for the blend space is to add a random z turn in the animation for variety

[undone arrow]

Idk for sure but when you rotate the bone you’ll see. It doesn’t even go up to 359

[torpid berry]

???

[undone arrow]

Yeah. Something like that

[torpid berry]

so how do i fix it?

[undone arrow]

Try making it spin indefinitely?

[torpid berry]

no

-1 = -360, 0 = 0, 1 = 360

-0.5 = -180, 0.5 = 180

etc etc etc

pose to pose blend

0.7 = 270

etc

[undone arrow]

Such niche. It’s brain itch after itch. I do like solving problems tho. Hmmmmm.

Might have to move that outside of a blend space maybe

[torpid berry]

just need info on how to do rotational blend spaces

[undone arrow]

But the problem would still exist. Hmmm

[torpid berry]

there have to be parameters

[undone arrow]

Yeah. I think the problem arises when you cross the 180 threshold

Ohhhhh. Try -179

[torpid berry]

and when i put in 180s it will rotate and rotate back
yeah will try -179

nope

there has to be a way to specify how blend spaces rotate

[undone arrow]

Have a small database inbetween. Like have a database for run_jumpstart. When you run set a bool just started running to true. And after a while disable it

[torpid berry]

between single frame animatinos

[undone arrow]

-1 = -179. 1 =179

But that’s not a full rotation hmmm

[torpid berry]

going to try 90 and -90

ok that did it

with just 4 poses

0, 180, 90, -90

gets the correct span

[undone arrow]

Yeah it’s weird

[torpid berry]

it makes sense

i was just hoping the poses would save symetrical rotations as different because of the quaternions

BUT

this fully solves my issue

[undone arrow]

I wonder what the next problem would be

[undone arrow]

The way I handled this was to move my camera to the guns sight

[scarlet moth]

Can someone explain to me what Component Space is? ("Set position of bone in SkeletalMeshComponent's reference frame", what does that mean?)
For some reason I need to set my bn_weapon bone to rotate in Component Space and bn_base to World Space to get the rotation I want, but I don't understand why.
The Pawn is attached to a Scene Component in another Actor. That Scene Component has a relative Z rotation.
So I'd expect that I have to set bn_base to Component Space, which I'm rotating on Z. Not bn_weapon, which I'm rotating on Y. I'm confused 😕
Parent Bone Space also works.

[runic turret]

Hi,
project is lyra
I have a custom character that is being retargeted using the IK Retargeter. One of the montages, specifically the archer draw montage assigned to the "Upper Body" slot, is not blending correctly. While the legs move during running, the character remains still when jumping. I attempted to use a Layer Blend with the pelvis bone, but it caused the character to tilt at a 45-degree angle. Although the bone structure is different, the locomotion animation plays perfectly. I'm unsure how to resolve this issue.

[spare kiln]

Do I need sync markers with motion matching or should I add them to my animations?

[undone arrow]

Can you elaborate

sync markers to do what

To me you would just handle that logic in bp

[spare kiln]

As far as I understood, sync markers are used to sync animations, so that when blending between run and walk, that they sync up also for footstep sounds right?

I'm just wondering, since I'm going to place AnimNotifies for footsteps, if I should also place sync markers.

[undone arrow]

Im not too knowledgeable about that. I thought was just for visuals

[spare kiln]

Me neither, thats why I'm asking, because I'm going through all the animations for footstep notifies and this would be a good time to place them as well.

[undone arrow]

Better safe than sorry I guess.

But I havent found a use for them as yet So i personally dont think they are that important

[spare kiln]

Yea, maybe someone else has experience with it 😅

[brittle jasper]

is there a way to change my IK goals to work in the skeleton transform space instead of them having (0, 0, 0) just mean default position?

I feel like there must be an obvious fix in a menu but I cant find it for the life of me

[brittle pier]

Hey the effector space "World location" doesnt really behave as I expected, anyone knows whats up?

[torpid berry]

ok
so I'm running into a huge issue with my animation Blueprint and Montages
@undone arrow

I have two sets of montages with relevant animations
one where the coin lands on heads and one with tails

for whatever reason when i try to play a montage that flips to or starts in a tails position,
it still plays the animation heads up

there are no blend spaces active, i've tried to run off the animation blends
but its just so strange

[undone arrow]

Can you send a vid

[torpid berry]

here is the montage

here is what happens when i play it on loop in an anim BP Call

wait may have found it

i needed to set the blend state on blend out and not completed

it was created a 1 frame gap

[fast dew]

man.. whatever team designed Control Rig... had they never used Unreal Engine before? why is everything so ass backwards in that graph editor?

it's like working with some bootleg version of blueprint or something

[torpid berry]

@undone arrow
thanks for the help

[undone arrow]

Oh you mean for the entire thing. I thought it was just the last thing

Anytime man

[torpid berry]

its in beta
and its also trying to conform to animation bp standards

[undone arrow]

How are you doing that like that?

on the ui

[torpid berry]

render target

[fast dew]

beta, i get that- but it's been around since unreal engine 4. it's older than nanite ffs. i crash more often in control rig than anywhere else in the editor

and it's definitely not conforming to ABP standards, it feels more like the old Blackboard system. IE) you can't access function parameters through local gets.

want to get the length of an array? nah we don't use length over here- we use "num" lol

anyway i'm just ranting 😛

crashed too many times today and wish i could yell at whoever designed this mess

[torpid berry]

basically
i have the bp in the level
it has the coin and render target camera
that writes to a texture, I use a material to mask out the non actor parts of the image

then on the UI its just an Image component using the material

@undone arrow

[undone arrow]

I might have to play with that sometime

[undone arrow]

The good outweighs the bad imo. replied to the wrong thing

[torpid berry]

its gotten better fast

hopefully the trajectory continues

[rose moth]

Newbie question! Whats the easiest and best way to a character interact with the ground hes walking on?

[astral path]

Hi everyone, when I pressed key in animation sequence in the top bar to keep changes, the mesh dissappeared, how to bring it back?

[astral path]

tun on collision on character and the ground?

[undone arrow]

Elaborate. Footstep sounds? Foot placement?

[undone arrow]

Can you send a video

[kindred wedge]

I need a blendspace montage and apparently this is not a thing in the game. I want a cast animation that plays once and overrides other animations, so a montage would be perfect, but it needs to interpolate between left/right/up/down animations, so it needs to be a blendspace. Chatgpt says I can't, google says I can't. How am I this far off the beaten path for such a simple feature? What am I missing?

[astral path]

I needed multiple animation sequences but they did not save the changes I have made and when I would edit other animation sequences, all of the animation sequences would change to the same pose (I duplicated each of them from one source animation sequence), and to keep changes I hit key button at the top and it helped, but the mesh is not seen

[quick inlet]

Hey everyone! 👋 I’m fairly new to Unreal Engine and could really use some help. Has anyone successfully retargeted an ActorCore skateboarding animation to a MetaHuman? The movement transfers perfectly, but the skateboard animation doesn’t, and the mesh disappears entirely.

I’ve tried different approaches but can’t seem to get the skateboard to stay linked. If anyone has run into this issue before or has any advice, I’d really appreciate the help! 🙏 Thanks in advance!

[brittle pier]

Hey the effector space "World location" doesnt really behave as I expected, anyone knows whats up?

[frail hearth]

@sweet kite did you get that?

[rose moth]

I have a character walking on a simple terrain,the problem is that the terrain itself is a little more like a downslope so im trying to find a way to make him walk on the terrain without sinking into the terrain as the terrain gets highier.

[vagrant shard]

I have a weird question. has anyone experienced this animation issue? I retargeted these animations and they were all fine until today, its like they are completely broken

the funny thing is that im not even playing the animation

looks fine in the preview as well

I think i figured the issue, i am looking in my retargeter and it seems i dont have a root source chain, not sure if thats the issue but i think it is

[vagrant shard]

so apparently that didnt fix the issue. if anyone could provide advice that would be appreciated thankyou

[vagrant shard]

its doing it in the rig as well for some reason

[blazing oriole]

How does ABP_Manny get from Locomotion to Jump? It doesn't have a transition rule between them, and I can't find anywhere in the ABP where it forces the state to jump

[smoky shell]

Look at the To Falling alias

[blazing oriole]

it's one-directional though? There is no arrow from Locomotion to Land, and arrows only go away from To Falling, not towards it

[long beacon]

Can someone give me a basic run down of what I would need to look into to add an animation to Lyra?
This is a first-person project and all I want to be able to do is on Interaction, fire off an animation state that moves the character arm(s) up in front of them, for example picking up a tablet to look at the screen. Then, on a button press, reverse the animation and put the arm(s) down.
I have the animation sequence for holding the item, just not sure how to blend to it. Would this be a new animation Layer?
I'm an unreal C++ systems engineer, so Animation stuff really hasn't been my thing.

[smoky shell]

You need to read up on alias. You don't understand them. Click on the node to see where it can transition from. There won't be an arrow

[blazing oriole]

Ahhhh, I see. The list of state names selected are basically the input arrows, and you apply your condition coming out of the alias

[smoky shell]

Yeah. State alias' are game changers coming from UE4 for graph organization/tidyness
Well, there weren't as necessary as some people made them out to be, that was just bad implementation but they still help a ton 😄

[hidden grove]

man this stupid animation offset is just making stuff a mysery

no mater what i do its always there in game some how

[hidden grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh4om_A7ufk 😂

[shrewd heron]

Is Motion Matching production ready in 5.5?

[hidden grove]

man that is a idea i could get behind

rather then strugling to animate hands and such

[faint oracle]

How do I get the blend mask to only apply to the upperbody slot? Somehow the upper body does some wonky stuff on stuff that is just default slot 🤔

non upperbody slot animations should play normally without blend masking but they don't for some reason?

[faint oracle]

nvm figure it out

[lofty marlin]

Does anyone here have some MotionMatching knowledge?
Generally confused what I'm looking at regarding the debug prediction line when using Epic's Character-based Trajectory generator.

[verbal tide]

any idea why when I use an AimOffset my character straight up disappears ? (scales to 0)

ok nvm i needed to have a non-additive idle animation

[unborn crypt]

What are you confused about

[lofty marlin]

The Line that one can draw to show the Trajectory, on Epic Character, if I inject a steady input (Forward + Mouse Right), barely bends.
It has a small bend at the start and then goes straight on. And I'm implementing this stuff for Mover at the moment, and after "fixing" the Predictor for mover, I get a Line for my Character that is properly bend, basically fully round, the path that the character will follow.

And I'm confused if:

• My stuff is wrong
• Epic's stuff is wrong
• The debugging line is misleading

And the History, even though the values are the same for the Trajectory nodes, draws diffently (distance between sample seems different).

[unborn crypt]

Gotcha. Ya, I'm not sure how they do their predictor using mover. I Just extended the PoseSearchTrajectoryLibrary to use my movement system instead (I dont use character and instead something similar to mover.)

Thus the same problems of decoupling

[lofty marlin]

I duplicated their Library by now to add some logging.

MaxSpeed: 500.000000
BrakingDeceleration: 500.000000
BrakingSubStepTime: 0.030303
Friction: 5.000000
Velocity: X=-413.677 Y=280.841 Z=0.000
Acceleration: X=-760.833 Y=247.251 Z=0.000
Position: 0.000000
Facing: P=0.000000 Y=78.419479 R=-0.000000
MeshCompRelativeRotation: P=0.000000 Y=-90.000000 R=0.000000
bOrientRotationToMovement: false
bStepGroundPrediction: true

[2025.02.11-12.50.24:174][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: [UGAPoseSearchTrajectoryLibrary::UpdatePrediction_SimulateCharacterMovement]
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:174][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: CurrentPositionWS: X=2680.574 Y=-5794.922 Z=4.275
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:174][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: CurrentVelocityWS: X=-413.677 Y=280.841 Z=0.000
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:174][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: CurrentAccelerationWS: X=-760.833 Y=247.251 Z=0.000
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:174][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: ControllerRotationPerStep: P=0.000000 Y=0.000000 R=0.000000
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:174][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: [ 1] ====== START ======
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:174][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: | | CurrentPositionWS: X=2680.574 Y=-5794.922 Z=4.275
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:174][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: | | CurrentFacingWS: P=0.000000 Y=78.419479 R=-0.000000
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:174][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: | | AccumulatedSeconds: 0.028709
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:174][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: | | CurrentAccelerationWS: X=-760.833 Y=247.251 Z=0.000
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:175][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: [ 2] ====== START ======
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:175][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: | | CurrentPositionWS: X=2639.207 Y=-5766.838 Z=4.275
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:175][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: | | CurrentFacingWS: P=0.000000 Y=78.419479 R=-0.000000
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:175][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: | | AccumulatedSeconds: 0.128709
[2025.02.11-12.50.24:175][927]LogGAPoseSearch: VeryVerbose: | | CurrentAccelerationWS: X=-760.833 Y=247.251 Z=0.000

The ControllerRotationPerStep is 0,0,0, even though I'm moving my mouse.

[unborn crypt]

And you're getting a weird trajectory

[lofty marlin]

Which is kinda strange

Debugging wise yeah

[unborn crypt]

looks like a mitchmatch in skeleton

first thought

that's usually the case when the bones are like that

[lofty marlin]

Would that make sense, given the data is just CMC driven?

Ah don't look at the character mesh

It's about the line

[unborn crypt]

gotcha... looks like a slight prediction to the right is happening

[lofty marlin]

Yeah, but the rotation applied is a constant right value

Injected via EnhancedInput.

Here is the history line:

So it runs constantly in circles and i would expect the prediction line to look like the history one more or less

Curve wise

And in my Mover setup I also get that

[unborn crypt]

Ya, that's a long history

I think mover does that

You can just not use movers predictor

[lofty marlin]

The lines I psoted are the CMC one

I coded my own Mover Predictor

[unborn crypt]

oh

[lofty marlin]

The line is unchanged CMC code

[unborn crypt]

maybe i'm seeing the scale wrong in the image

gotcha

ok, so you're running in circles and the line is following (is this in a bad way yet?)

[lofty marlin]

That's the CMC line. Basically what you see when you run in circles on teh GameAnimationSample

History shows I'm running in circles

[unborn crypt]

ok, so it's not predicting a turn in the future

since you'r still holding right, but the line is showing straight

[lofty marlin]

This is my mover version. Not perfect cause it seems to curve too much, but way more what I would expect.

History is also way further apart for whatever reason. They are walking with the same speed and same prediction and history values.

fwiw, the history of the CMC one seems to look like the prediction of the Mover one xD

[unborn crypt]

why is the history of the mover different then the history of the cmc?

if the movements are the same

[lofty marlin]

Yeah that's one of my questions too

[unborn crypt]

is the line accuratly following both?

if that's the case then that means they're in fact behaving differently

[lofty marlin]

You'd think, but this is when they are both running straight for a while.

They don#t drift further apart, so neither of them is faster than the other,

[random river]

Hey everyone,
I'm trying to export a modular character from Blender. I created the rig using Rigify and then converted it for Unreal using the GameRig Tools addon. Everything is working fine except for the export.

When I try to export all the mesh parts along with the rig, Unreal imports it as a single skeletal mesh with all the body parts already attached, instead of multiple skeletal meshes.

The only way I've managed to achieve this is by first exporting the entire mesh with the rig to create a Skeleton. Then, I export each mesh part individually along with the rig and convert the exported static meshes into skeletal meshes using the previously created Skeleton.

Is there an easier way to export the entire modular character with the rig in one go while keeping the skeletal meshes separate?
Thanks in advance

[brittle pier]

Hey so I'm trying to make my bear characters legs always touch the ground, although I had it working with component space, when i set the effector space to "world space" it suddenly doesn't work in the world. Anyone knows what's up??

[lofty marlin]

@unborn crypt So I figured out the problem with the History.

The Mover Predictor adds the created Prediction Samples starting with 0.0 for the accumulated time.
But 0.0 is the current one. CMC correctly adds it with DeltaTime, so in the future.
That caused the first predicted sample to be "old", and also the code that grabs the "previous location" to make the History Samples "Relative Locations" was using a completely wrong location due to this.

That looks better :D now trying to fix the rest haha

[lofty marlin]

@unborn crypt Also figured out why the line of the CMC one is straight. They limit the ControlYawRate in the AnimBP to 0.0 while moving.
For whatever reason.

[brittle pier]

Sorry could someone help me because I've been stuck here for a long time and I have no idea what to do ?

[quartz cedar]

Hey, this is a weird question but I was wondering if you as an Indie dev, would consider renting an affordable mocap studio for like an hour or two to make some custom animations, rather then doing it all by hand? Let's say for like 100-200 bucks per hour. Like does this make sense for you?

[unborn crypt]

You can use the new skeletal mesh editor tools to delete the modular parts you dont want. Just import it once, make a bunch of duplicates for each part then delete the mesh parts you don't want

[smoky shell]

Not going to happen by the hour. It'll be day rates. Need to cover the studio space, the actors, the equipment, and that's done by the day.

Mocap isn't available to indie at a sufficient quality/price

You can get low quality suits without a good quality actor and get an awful but situationally passable result with cleanup

[quartz cedar]

Yeah I noticed. I've been thinking about getting an OptiTrack system for quite some time now and I got the idea of opening my own mocap studio with good rates because as an Indie developer I know that it would've helped me a TON to have access to mocap but the rates were way too expensive since I needed a lot of animations done and for many games which would add up really really quickly.

[royal sorrel]

I'm using contextual anim scene. How do I select a different anim set based on condition? No matter what I do, it always defaults to the first one

Also why is there 0 documentation on CAS?

[fading mason]

Hey, folks! On my animation BP, I'm using the Transform (Modify) Bone to rotate a bone given a rotation that I'm calculating in the C++ side. But this damn animation node accepts an FRotator as input parameter instead of an FQuat and I'm experiencing gimbal lock. I can create my own version of this node and solve this with a custom node, but before I get into this rabbit hole of creating a custom animation node (which I'd love to avoid), do you know of another way to solve this issue?

[random river]

Thanks for the advice I'll try that approach! 👍

[smoky shell]

It is easy to create an anim node. If you haven't done it before be aware that there is the editor AnimGraphNode_MyNode and matching runtime AnimNode_MyNode, and expect to copy both entirely rather than inherit they're pretty much never exported which is honestly fine with those

[fading mason]

Thanks! That's what I'm doing. It's so weird that there are no default anim graph nodes that allows a bone rotation to be set with a quaternion.

[brazen willow]

What happens if I create FirstPerson animations with the default UE4 Mannequin in Blender, and then retarget to other character in the engine, will the grip do not match if the models have diferent dimensions (like hand dimensions arms and so on)?

[spare kiln]

Hey guys, I'm currently facing an issue with an animation, which should go forward left.
It works fine (first video), but as soon as I turn on Enable Root Motion, it starts going to the right.
Any idea what the issue could be and what I can do about it?

Is it possible that this is an issue with the orientation? (See the arrows)
Also how could I fix that?
(First image is a animation where it is ok, second is the one with the issue)

[late sun]

My Animation Blendspace is not playing from the start but starts at a random position.. Any help please ?

[viscid willow]

how are you playing the animation? is it played as a montage or an animation sequence in your ABP?

[spare kiln]

as a montage

ideally I would like to fix it in the animation though

[viscid willow]

if your characters have different proportions it's safe to say that things like contact positions will be different across your characters. e.g. if you shoulders are wider your hand positions will be further apart.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=vZW8mxlQJEk&si=SOEQPswqjZ4XZNG3

you can use IK to correct hand positions, if you have different hand proportions like a larger hand or wider spread fingers you can also expect some discrepancies in the contacts of the fingers etc.

[viscid willow]

yep, thats fine, just wanted to check that it's played through a montage.

the orientation of the root shouldn't impact the direction of the root motion it should just follow the translation from the root which is applied as velocity on the character.

what are the root motion settings of your ABP? there's "root motion from everything" or "root motion from montages only" etc

[spare kiln]

But isn't there a way I could fix this, because if you look at my pictures, for the first one the orientation is good, I would like to fix it for the second one as well 🙈

[spare kiln]

For montages only

[viscid willow]

its the same animation right? but the character moves incorrectly when you enable root motion?

[spare kiln]

So for the videos, the first video is without root motion enabled the second one has root motion enabled.
The first image shows a animation for which the works fine and the second image the animation for which it does not work.

I mean looking at the root motion orientation arrows it makes sense why it does not work with root motion enabled, I would assume that the character is rotated so the arrows faces forward and since the arrows are titled 90° this leads to a righte movement

[viscid willow]

typically the rotation and translation are independent. so you could rotate your root 180 while moving the root backward for something like a turn start for locomotion, but the orientation shouldnt have any impact on the translation of the root. it should only determine the orientation of the capsule relative to the character mesh when root motion is enabled

[spare kiln]

I'm not really sure what the arrows really are telling me. It is just that setting, is there an additional orientation for the root motion?

[viscid willow]

if you did want to adjust this in engine you could pull it into sequencer and bake the animation to the mannequin control rig so you can adjust the root independently

[spare kiln]

Is this a actual skeleton bone that is causing the issue?

[viscid willow]

the orientation of the root will determine the orientation of the capsule, while the translation will determine the translation of the capsule.

[spare kiln]

But so there is an additional thing besides the bones in the animation, that tells how to rotate the capsule?

[viscid willow]

from what your animation shows i would think not, because the trajectory looks correct based on what you mentioned. but its hard to say, is there anything else you're applying to the character when you play this montage?

[spare kiln]

I mean i bought the animation pack and the creator/seller is quite responsive and already fixed another issue, so I hope/assume he will do the same thing, but I was just wondering if I can do this myself, also I'm interested what this really is.

[spare kiln]

no and I have to animations sets, both a dash forward left, and for one it works for the other it doesn't and this are the two images.

So the difference I can see is that the arrows are pointing to the left where for the other animation they are pointing forward, and I would assume that the capsule is rotated so that the arrows look forward.
It 100% is an issue with the animation itself, this is the only variable in the equation, just wondering how easy it is to fix and besides that what it means 😅

[viscid willow]

yeah it's a curious problem. what are the values on the root in the details panel for those two animations?

maybe it is the rotation after all 😅 if the orientation is determining an initial angle, still seems very odd

[spare kiln]

I mean further investigating i think it is an issue with the root bone

This is the animation for which is is fine.

This is the animation with the issue

[viscid willow]

I think you might be right, I don't exactly understand why tbh haha

[spare kiln]

I think he retargeted the animations from ue4 to ue5 and thats where it happened but i wonder if i can fix it because I'm retargeting his animations to my skeleton.

[viscid willow]

you could still correct that how I mentioned before, you can pull the anim into sequencer, bake it to the mannequin control rig, and remove the rotation on the root

[spare kiln]

Is it easy? ^^

[viscid willow]

yep pretty easy

if you have an empty level, bring your character in and open up sequencer

[spare kiln]

^^

[viscid willow]

you should then be able to add the character to the sequencer track if it doesn't do it automatically

[spare kiln]

do i need to add a level sequence?

[viscid willow]

yeah you can do it that way, or just create a level sequence in ur content browser and double click

[spare kiln]

ok got that

[viscid willow]

if you have your character mesh you can either pull it into the level or drag n drop it from your content browser into the sequencer viewport, this should spawn the character to work with

[spare kiln]

so i drag the character mesh into the level right?

[viscid willow]

probably easier to drag the character into the sequencer, it should just spawn it automatically

[spare kiln]

yea have that done

[viscid willow]

if it created a control rig, you can delete that first of all, otherwise ur anim will be overridden

[spare kiln]

i don't think so

[viscid willow]

okay, in that case you should be able to add your animation to the animation track

[spare kiln]

yea i have done that

ohh you mean just change the yaw to -90 and then export it like that?

[viscid willow]

then if you right click on the skeletal mesh track you should be able to bake it to a control rig

[viscid willow]

that could be an option, I was going to suggest removing all rotation from the root on the anim that is incorrect

[spare kiln]

how can i do that, because having it static to -90 will be not right since the rotation is not always -90

but maybe I'll just wait till tomorrow maybe then the guy fixes it in his pack 😅

[viscid willow]

is that not how your other correct animation is set up?

[spare kiln]

that is the correct one all are pointing forward

for this it is dynamic as you can see

meaning for the good anmiation, the root bone is not rotating, but for the bad animation the root bone is rotating with the character

[viscid willow]

yeah so in your "bad" animation you can remove that rotation in the level sequencer we just set up

[spare kiln]

how can i do that?

because the animation i dragged into the sequencer is also bad in the sequencer

[viscid willow]

what do you mean?

[spare kiln]

if i play the animation in the sequencer it is also rotating the wrong way

[viscid willow]

what if you disable root motion on the anim asset, then add it to sequencer?

[spare kiln]

then it works but then it also works for the montage

[viscid willow]

yeah okay, so if you have it in sequencer working "correctly", then you can right click on the skeletal mesh track and find bake to control rig

you should be able to bake to the mannequin control rig which will allow you to adjust the root rotation

[spare kiln]

can't i do something like that in the retargeter?

or translation mode ^^

[viscid willow]

maybe, control rig means you can just change the keys and save out a new asset

[spare kiln]

I maybe think I have to sleep about it and hope that the guys fixes the animations 😂

I is 99.99999% this one animation that has an issue, maybe I could even fix it, by adding the package and then trying to retarget the original ue4 animations to ue5

But i really really appreciate your help!

[viscid willow]

no problem, there aren't that many steps to adjusting the animation in control rig. once you have the animation baked, you can just change the keys, save the asset back out, and done

[spare kiln]

For me it is just late and then I'm trying to do it quickly and then I make it worse, thats the only reason I'm not trying it right now and until now I did not try rolling back changes with perforce so ... 😂

[viscid willow]

that's fair, better to be rested

[spare kiln]

Yea, so if it somehow fucks up I have time to fix it, better go to bed with a small itch knowing this one animation does not work instead of a headache 😅

Also I'm pretty sure, since the animations I got where originally ue4 and then retargeted to ue5, that something happened there.
I just deleted the ue4 animations so I can't try it right now, but maybe if I just retarget the animation from ue4 to ue5 myself it is already fixed.

[viscid willow]

good idea, you might get more consistent results

[real atlas]

Ive been wondering, how did they even achieve this with the 2 different mannequins? theyre clearly different proportions but yet they can use the exact same animations just fine (albeit whatever offsets naturally happen) but I cant find any way to do that with my own characters

whenever I try to retarget anything it ends up either duplicating every single animation as a compatible version or just irreversably breaks my character rig entirely

same bone names, barely different proportions

[serene onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYal6taYUfE

[brittle pier]

Hey everyone, can someone help ?I'm trying to make my bear characters legs always touch the ground, although I had it working with component space, when i set the effector space to "world space" it suddenly doesn't work in the world. Anyone knows what's up??

[viscid willow]

I expect these two mannequins, while being different skeletal meshes will share the same skeleton. Because the share a common skeleton, the animation assets can be shared.

when retargeting across the same skeleton with different skeletal mesh proportions you need only define your skeletal mesh in the retarget manager as a retarget source and set up the retargeting options on the bones of the skeleton.

https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/animation-retargeting-in-unreal-engine

if you have a different skeleton you're wanting to import and it has all the same bone names and hierarchy like you say, you should import this as a skeletal mesh, using the existing mannequin skeleton as a target skeleton. this will make it compatible with all the mannequin assets.

if you want to keep it as a separate skeleton, you can also set this as a "compatible skeleton" in the details panel
https://dev.epicgames.com/documentation/en-us/unreal-engine/skeletons-in-unreal-engine

(see the bottom of the page)

[viscid willow]

component space will be relative to the root (iirc) where as world space will be the absolute world transform. That might explain the discrepancy you're seeing.

are you trying to achieve a IK Leg setup for this character?

[dark crow]

When updating animation blueprint is querying the character always the way to go?

[viscid willow]

its often recommended that the ABP shouldn't do too many calculations of its own. You can certainly calculate some essential values to do with velocity, acceleration and rotation etc but you'd derive these from the character/character movement component first and foremost.

Using Property Access in UE5 is often suggested for this purpose

[dark crow]

I was just thinking, would it be better to have the character update these values? If the ABP is checking the Character->IsAiming on tick, it seems like it would be better if the character does ABP->IsAiming = true/false

[viscid willow]

Makes sense for something like Aiming to be a state on the character. if you have this as a variable you can read that variable in the ABP through something like Property Access and use that as needed. As opposed to having a similar variable stored on the ABP which you would need to set and update as well.

typically the ABP is reading from it's owner, in this case the character. rather than writing information to the ABP from the character, if that makes sense.

[dark crow]

Yeah. I just see a lot of ABP where they use the Propery Access to get a variable from the character and then set a local ABP variable to that. Then inside of the Animation Graphs it gets used

[viscid willow]

that's usually the case yes. that said you don't always need to set a local variable on the ABP, but doing so can be useful for debugging.

[dark crow]

Is it bad to bind to delegates in a ABP?

[viscid willow]

I'm not much of a programmer so I'm not sure i have a good answer for you 😅

[real atlas]

yeah I just get failed to merge bones whatever I do

also I assume compatible skeletons is a ue5 thing

[viscid willow]

in that case you're skeleton hierarchy must be different. are you wanting to share the skeleton?

[viscid willow]

I believe so

[real atlas]

the only difference in the skeleton was added on hair bones

gonna try without them rn

yeah still happens

in fact I think Ive gotten that error without even making any changes to a skeleton before

[viscid willow]

if they're leaf bones they shouldn't be an issue.

if you import as a new skeleton, then bring up the mannequin side by side can you see any differences in the bone hierarchy?

[real atlas]

oooohh it was doing that thing where it adds an extra root bone, I think I got it working now

[viscid willow]

blender?

[real atlas]

yeah

but also didnt know about the import options method, thanks

[viscid willow]

classic

[viscid willow]

no problem, glad it's working.

[gaunt pecan]

Does anyone know if a method to pause anim state machines, or even time dilate it in a way that also effects state transitions? Blends will continue happening at full speed for most methods.
The only thing I could find that works is changing the custom time dilation on the actor itself, but that effects everything.
I have an additive animation that plays on the final pose, and I'd really like that not to be effected by any time dilation.

[real atlas]

aaaand now it broke again

ok I dont like how it adds the bones to the other skeleton too, that means you cant make any changes at all after importing the new one even though thats something else

[viscid willow]

how do you mean?

since the skeletal meshes are sharing a skeleton, that skeleton needs to contain ALL the bones of every skeletal mesh. each skeletal mesh however will only load the relevant bones that it needs for that mesh.

you can think of the Skeleton as a container or definition of all the bones. and each skeleton mesh is like a skin

[real atlas]

yeah, that makes sense but it seems like that prevents you from making any changes even to the other rigs heirarchy after the first import, because then the original skeleton will freak out

[viscid willow]

you don't wanna be making hierarchy changes. you can add and remove leaf bones, and there's a little tool you can run to remove redundant bones if the engine sees they're not used. but the core hierarchy is pretty locked once you get started, unless you got back through and change every skeleton.

[real atlas]

yeah but I mean hierarchy that didnt even exist on the original skeleton

but then importing the new one adds it to that original skeleton so it is

oh man its also offsetting bones that dont even move in some animations

hat bone is getting offset in an animation that doesnt move hat bone at all