I have a new game idea generator in the works, but I haven't had time to touch it in months.
#game-jam-chat
civic dock
glass fossil
Has it been announced yet?
graceful oriole
nop
glass fossil
The theme?
alpine sonnet
To make an mmorpg we need a week go and drop the theme T-T 
civic dock
Not yet. I'm ready though.
glass fossil
Goddammit
civic dock
Gonna drop the theme here as soon as it's revealed.
quick heart
tsss can't hear the theme
glass fossil
Thx
graceful oriole
give it to me baby come on
minor hemlock
I bet they're waiting until exactly :45 after
final arch
Most time this gamejam will go to my actual day job
viral orbit
@cyan latch theme will be announced soon
eternal edge
explaining the theme is like explaining a joke
quick heart
game changer theme...hm ๐
viral orbit
Nani???
graceful oriole
whats the theme
civic dock
Any theme guesses before it's announced?
regal wigeon
okay Crowd Forg Works Now
civic dock
You can use any premade assets as long as you note them in the submission form.
cyan latch
@viral orbit Tik Tok Tik Tok
alpine sonnet
eternal edge
My guess is a callback to the very first megajam
quick heart
it was premade by me actually ๐
viral orbit
All epic jam themes are out if this world
civic dock
@eternal edge Oh that would be interesting. 5 year anniversary and all.
viral orbit
No hints at all and no theme voting lol
graceful oriole
please make the theme not stupid
gray granite
patiently waiting for theme ๐ผ
cyan latch
What would be the most r/Madlad Move in Epic Mega Jam?
small fern
theme is "not stupid"
quick heart
every stupid theme can be turned into something genius
final arch
How can a theme ever be bad? you're only limited by your own creativity
graceful oriole
it can
viral orbit
Some of the jam themes are quotes though
civic dock
The theme for the first Epic MegaJam was "STANDING ON THE SHOULDERS OF GIANTS"
That was in 2015.
zenith gust
@civic dock that one had some real fun submissions ๐
even the ones that just took it literally were often fun
minor hemlock
the theme reveal for the last Epic MegaJam was "WELL THAT ESCALATED QUICKLY"
civic dock
@zenith gust Yep! That was the last Epic MegaJam I participated in, actually.
Made a game called Repro, a puzzle game where you stand on clones of yourself.
quick heart
@civic dock will you participate in this one?
civic dock
Yes, I'm participating this year! Very excited.
viral orbit
The most recent one is actually" make it count"
quick heart
have you won the previous?
civic dock
No, but I got honorable mention.
minor hemlock
@viral orbit megajam vs ue4jam
civic dock
And Allar loved it when he played it on the stream. It was just too short.
carmine kindle
Ah dang it, now I gotta make an MMO.
quick heart
were you an admin of unrealslackers those times ? @civic dock
viral orbit
Oh i didn't know they were different
minor hemlock
I thought @pine fulcrum was going to make an MMO for this jam ๐ค stiff competition @carmine kindle
viral orbit
That's what she said
civic dock
@quick heart Yes, I founded Unreal Slackers in May 2015.
cyan latch
Lol
quick heart
We have no chances ๐ฑ ๐ฑ win vs admin
civic dock
Haha, don't be silly. I've never won a UE4 jam and this community is full of incredible people who win all the time.
OK theme incoming......................
graceful oriole
please dont be stupid
quick heart
๐
wet rivet
space cats!
loud basalt
Theme is Down to Earth
eternal edge
that's alright
civic dock
The theme for the 2019 Epic MegaJam is:
โจ DOWN TO EARTH โจ
quick heart
cool
graceful oriole
WHAT
small fern
quick heart
XD
deep stag
yeee
graceful oriole
BULLSHIT
regal wigeon
Down To earth
wet rivet
SPACE CATS
quick heart
nooooooo
west wing
graceful oriole
jk
edgy fulcrum
haha, najs
eternal edge
lol the spam
wet rivet
THE THEME IS SPACE CATS
quick heart
NAAAA
graceful oriole
its ok
viral orbit
Down to Earth
civic dock
GO FORTH AND JAM!
minor hemlock
arrrrgh I misclicked @quick heart wins this round
deep stag
sp00k
gray granite
๐ค
runic mountain
Now that is a good theme.
civic dock
I love it.
quick heart
Down to earth from the space : cats 2
eternal edge
pretty solid actually yeah. open ended enough allows for mostly anything
minor hemlock
who was the hamsters are often inaccurate team, they should be disqualified (from this jam) for asset flip 
wet parcel
bonus points if you include space cats
small fern
now we will have 20 games where space cats try to get back to earth
quick heart
๐
small fern
I could do that
carmine kindle
A space cat version of No Man's Sky, where you go down to Earth like planets, and it's also a MMO.
wet rivet
here's the theme!
tardy quartz
lol nice try
wet rivet
^meme btw, that's not it
Don't want anyone to accidentally look at that and believe it lol
runic mountain
I mean, if you make a game with space cats as the theme, you might pull off a game that also fits down to earth
real loom
๐
west wing
Time to play RDR2.
quick heart
ok i'm ready to become a machine
tardy quartz
I wanna see someone do an MMO lol XD
zenith gust
Good luck everybody, time to take a long walk and think about theme ideas!
glass fossil
ok I have my idea.... GG everyone, good luck ๐
quick heart
Ok i have no ideas...went to create a game
loud basalt
@civic dock Wanna pin the theme?
civic dock
May as well.
granite acorn
Space Cats: Down to Earth
civic dock
loud basalt
That way no one needs to get confused by people saying space cats ๐
runic mountain
I sort of want to see a game with a dancing earth.
pulsar owl
i have a feeling there will be a lot of games where space cats are invading earth.
brave current
Space Cats? Oh snap!
minor hornet
down to earth...
civic dock
Yeah, I think this is a great theme.
Good luck jammers! And remember: above all else, have fun. โค๏ธ
radiant acorn
Its really nice and abstract and can be interpreted in quite a few different ways ๐ my fav is still down to earth space cats
uneven fractal
Yo!
radiant acorn
Good luck everyone ๐
small fern
2,115 joined so far
uneven fractal
civic dock
I'm guessing about 400 submissions.
uneven fractal
I'll guess 1,200..there was ~800 one jam
sharp kraken
good luck, have fun, stay hydrated ๐
civic dock
And get plenty of sleep!
And take breaks. I know it sounds counter-intuitive when you're in the moment, but taking breaks is often the best way to solve tough problems.
glass fossil
^
sharp kraken
agreed ๐
keen steeple
trueee
pine fulcrum
Remember to waterboard yourself with whipped cream hourly
sharp kraken
๐
glass fossil
so my first idea is a platformer where you carefully and calmly descend a crumbling building ๐
sharp kraken
@civic dock that's never fun, but this jam should be a great distraction ๐
civic dock
Yes. This is my reward for conquering my dental fears. ๐
sharp kraken
nice
quick heart
@civic dock get well. I would create a game about some guy who went down to the earth after dental surgery ๐ ๐
glass fossil
Space: Earth, Down to Cats 2: electric boogaloo
uneven fractal
DTE - Down To Earth..
radiant acorn
Is it cool to share progress in here as well or should that go in WIP channel?
gray granite
I'm going to attempt this jam as a total UE4 noob, I usually use the Defold engine (which is super awesome for 2d games) ๐ผ
glass fossil
progress here i think, general all jamchan
civic dock
@quick heart Thanks! Haha love it.
gray granite
the in editor tutorials are super nice
civic dock
@gray granite Nice to have you in the community, and good luck!
gray granite
@civic dock I'll do my best!
quick heart
don't be afraid...just go after something simpler and try to do the best ๐ @gray granite
sharp kraken
yes, good luck @gray granite
glass fossil
I think I'll make the platformer where you calmly descend a building that's falling as you go lol
seems like good enough idea
small fern
I didn't even realize this jam ends later than usual
for me it ends on friday morning
zinc junco
Good luck everyone ๐
glass fossil
Monday is a free day for me because day of when the country was founded
c o m p e t i t i v e a d v a n t a g e
quick heart
week is a free for me ... ADVANTAGE
minor hemlock
I have been reminded by stream that I forgot to stock up on caffeine
uneven fractal
Asking for a friend who participated, any info on the Film Jam? haven't heard a peep about it
minor hemlock
ty @tranquil matrix
deep stag
unemployed ๐
tranquil matrix
@minor hemlock Yw ๐
pulsar owl
considering how big these jams are getting, maybe they should move to more of a bracketed type of judging. randomly assign every entry to a group of a hundred or so entries, best in the bracket wins a prize and is then pitted against other bracket winners for bigger prizes. That way you only compete against so many groups and feel like you have a good chance of winning if you have a decent game.
brave current
I wish I was unemployed ๐ฆ
carmine kindle
Now the important question is... what really makes a game an MMO? 
civic dock
Guys this is going to be a blast. โค๏ธ
glass fossil
@minor hemlock will you be streaming the play through of the entries this time too?
glass fossil
yes ๐
minor hemlock
not yours, you're banned from my stream ๐ฟ
glass fossil
whyyyy
minor hemlock
no more mazes (โฒะด๏ฝฯ)ฯ
glass fossil
I did nothing wrong lol
don't worry it won't be a maze
unless
What lin about shader math did they talk about?
vertical maze
link*
minor hemlock
mine will be amazeing Kappa
autumn abyss
@tranquil matrix @copper carbon Can you guys tell us the font use on the splash screen and if it's a custom one could you guys share it ?
uneven fractal
thx @tranquil matrix !
sterile vigil
k so I googled the theme and I'm now suddenly listening to Justin Bieber
harsh oasis
Sorry to interuprt can any of u give me info on wat the theme for mega jam.... I missed Livestream..
glass fossil
@tranquil matrix What was the link pfist posted earlier regarding tricks/tips for shaders
keen steeple
down to eartg
small fern
look at the topic
uneven fractal
down to earth
glass fossil
Theme is pinned
civic dock
I don't recall posting a link about shader tips/tricks. 
small fern
I'm still downloading megascans here :p
tranquil matrix
@autumn abyss I will have to follow up on that
civic dock
I did post a link to my 100MB template though.
small fern
and UE4 dependencies for custom 4.24 engine build
glass fossil
ok so gl everyone, have fun
@civic dock Hmm, I thought I heard victor say that, but maybe I misheard
autumn abyss
@tranquil matrix @copper carbon what is the best AI you have seen on a game jam project I would like to push the bar on that one ๐
glass fossil
see you sometime later
pine fulcrum
brb making megascan based <100 mb game
civic dock
^
small fern
that's the goal
copper carbon
@autumn abyss - It's call Brutal
civic dock
@pine fulcrum Ultimate bonus challenge.
small fern
you should know better Allar
civic dock
I might attempt that for fun too. ๐
hearty ferry
I'm gonna try 100mb but even with the template that's only what 20mbs or so left for game content
autumn abyss
@copper carbon do you remember in which jam edition they did the game ?
small fern
can have all the megascans in there
hearty ferry
I'd say music might be even worse than textures size-wise
sonic echo
Oh man none of my team members are on the server and one is no longer in my teams discord server
small fern
I'm going to prep my 100mb project basis on 4.24 soon as well
glass fossil
@sonic echo None are answering me iether, so I'm going to solo it
small fern
will be curious how low can you push it now
low isle
good luck to all participants! ๐
small fern
I'm guessing 55-60mb is the practical limit
harsh oasis
Pls somebody tell me wat is the theme for mega jam so that i can start working..,..
sonic echo
DOWN TO EARTH
keen steeple
we told you already xD
glass fossil
It literally says the theme above chat
small fern
he already asked it
harsh oasis
@sonic echo thank you
small fern
and 10 people answered
minor hornet
L O L
small fern
๐
quick heart
what do they mean by default material?
the one from examples?
or what
no idea...i'm creating custom ones
small fern
the one that's named default material
quick heart
every time
sonic echo
that grey checkerboard the engine provided at the start
quick heart
ah thx ...
small fern
it's a silly rule
minor hornet
so any teams with programmers still need somebody to do game design decisions and make game design concept art ( https://www.instagram.com/gamesigner/ )
small fern
I mean it's there mainly so people would pay more attention and make custom materials
quick heart
all peope make custom materials?
i never used build-in ones...it's so easy to create own material ๐
zenith gust
Probably also a quick way to not have to spend super much time reviewing very low-effort submissions, if people haven't bothered with materials then they can immediately discard those entries ^^
civic dock
I tend to use flat shaders for game jams. No textures, just colors.
quick heart
@civic dock to get the tiny award?
maiden loom
@Olento - we're down to 43Mb
civic dock
Well that and I just find it easier to keep the scope down that way.
Helps me simplify things.
quick heart
i see ๐
zenith gust
It's just way quicker to get content done that way, compared to trying to either make your own textures or find suitable ones online
imo
civic dock
Yeah. It's mostly a time-saving measure.
That way, when it comes to visuals, I only have to think about having a good color palette.
Making sure things are readable, good contrast, etc.
small fern
@maiden loom oh snap
hearty ferry
@maiden loom I'd love some tips/pointers on how you got it so low
small fern
custom build?
maiden loom
Custom build yeah
small fern
I haven't even started my build ๐
civic dock
Yeah, you can't get that low with a launcher build.
That's brilliant, though. Lots of headroom to work with.
small fern
that way you could easily strip more, yes
maiden loom
Stripped out a lot of engine content and not compiling some DLLs
Apex physics alone is nearly 10Mb
Half of those DLLs aren't even used :/
small fern
but if you just disable most plugins and blacklist content, you get under 60mb fine
zenith gust
Best I could do on 4.23, empty black map and blacklisting everything possible, was just under 50mb with a launcher build
quick heart
who needs these 100 mb
zenith gust
but blacklisting stuff so often comes back to bite you later
quick heart
lets create 100gb game XD
maiden loom
Just under 50 is pretty good
small fern
just test your project after blacklisting
it's fine
it's just important to check everything still works
civic dock
I don't take it that far. My template only covers the big wins that are safest to do.
small fern
this is why I always do it as first step
zenith gust
@maiden loom for the 43mb one, how large is your executable and thirdparty folders?
maiden loom
Executable is something like 32Mb
quick heart
@civic dock don't you like to risk?
maiden loom
Third party is the rest
zenith gust
one day I'll dig into how to build without some of that stuff, make a leaner build with what's needed
hearty ferry
I've got a fairly simple idea, so I'm hoping to get some more time to spend on optimizing the project size
small fern
there's this file on ue4 sources that lists all feats that UBT will take into account
quick heart
those 100mb...omg heroes of might and magic 3 from 1999 were around 1 gb XD
maiden loom
Our actual jam engine is 47Mb because we added an audio compression plugin
small fern
you can just put boolean values for feats you want or don't want
I can't remember the path out of my head
maiden loom
Hoping to gain more than the plugin, hehe
small fern
on one jam, I had substance plugin with that idea
I thought I would just generate the textures runtime ๐
maiden loom
Haha
hearty ferry
Is your engine build available on github somewhere for others to compile? would love to take a look at what's excluded
small fern
but you really don't need to crunch that low
there's plenty of space for audio on 50MB
big wins are = 32bit build, no redist, use packed pak, blacklist most default stuff
that gets you under 60mb immediately
oh and disable most plugins
zenith gust
The other times that I've tried for the 100mb one I've spent too much time thinking about size instead of the actual game
small fern
I guess having custom engine ready prior to jam start would have been wise tho :p
sonic echo
still none of my team members are on, I get issue of time differences but man such a pain and stressful
small fern
but I usually do the stripping at the beginning, just to be fair
zenith gust
the project base I have now is 54mb with some stuff blacklisted and the other usual tricks, this will have to do ^^
yeah, ideally one would make a custom build that can also easily toggle things, like one fully without physics would save a bunch of space if you were doing something with simple physics that you could make yourself
glass fossil
Look at some 4k demo scene videos
gray granite
@small fern I just tried to package win32 with no starter materials and it is 186MB unzipped, what are the steps to strip other things from that setup?
civic dock
It's been a while since I tried, but I remember having a lot of trouble getting blacklists to work on Windows.
gray granite
otherwise my project is blank
glass fossil
@gray granite I seriously doubt that your project is blank with almost 200mb
you are inluding stuff you aren't using
small fern
@gray granite I just listed bunch
zenith gust
@civic dock it's stupid like that, if you build for win32 the output folder is WindowsNoEditor, but the blacklist file needs to be in /Build/Win32 instead of /Build/WindowsNoEditor
otherwise it's not picked up
civic dock
@zenith gust Ah yeah, that's right. I remember dealing with that.
small fern
yeah, docs don't really state the windows path
gray granite
I assume this is the dist?
civic dock
Nope. It's all trial and error.
small fern
when I was figuring this out on the first time, there was no info about it anywhere
zenith gust
@civic dock good on you for making that template btw, sorry I never sent further notes like I said, but in the end it's all messy blacklisting and plugin disabling past the point you have in the template
small fern
also remember when this category was there first time
zenith gust
so not really suitable for a general template
small fern
everyone was just hush hush how they got below 100mb ๐
just to not give others advantage
civic dock
@zenith gust No worries! And yeah, I figured it was mostly blacklisting to get below what I did.
small fern
I still remember victor burgos being angry at me for giving some tips ๐
civic dock
I very intentionally only did big wins that are safe for most people in my template.
gray granite
@glass fossil I created a blank project so it must be including things in the pak still that I didn't ask for
small fern
(we weren't on the same team)
civic dock
Wanted it to be broadly usable and I figured if people wanted to take it further, they would.
zenith gust
it's a great starting point
civic dock
Thanks! I hope folks find it useful for this jam.
zenith gust
In general, I think start like that, then after a while disable plugins you end up not using, and finally if you need more space start looking at the packaged .pak with UnrealPak and check the worst offenders, usually there's some default noise or sky material that's included even if you don't reference them
gray granite
does anyone have a project they could share that would generate the minimal download size / be stripped down as much as possible? I don't understand why the packages I'm making with a blank project are 200MB
wet rivet
I love this theme
gray granite
@civic dock thanks, I'll try that
civic dock
It will get you down to at least 85MB to start if you package 32-bit.
@wet rivet Me too! I think we'll see some good games come out of this one.
hearty ferry
I've already got a great idea for my jam game but still gotta finish some work things tonight/tomorrow, ugh...
civic dock
@pine fulcrum I have a Whole Tomato pen for some reason. I think it's from GDC.
maiden loom
yeah, I spent an entire day last weekend getting our build down low, it took a fair bit of trial and error with various settings
small fern
@maiden loom btw, could you just remove APEX without PhysX? or both?
maiden loom
removed just APEX
quick heart
What is a whole tomato?
maiden loom
but it required faff with source
quick heart
replacement for visual studio?
small fern
there used to be some dependency between the two on past
physx 4 wouldn't have that as it doesn't even support apex :p
but yeah, that's not really good option for the jam
@quick heart they make Visual Assist, which is a visual studio plugin
it basically makes code completion and jumping around the c++ source code effortless
kinda how it should have been from the beginning :p
if you don't do c++ work, you will not need it
small fern
well, visual studio's intellisense itself is good enough for most c++ work
it's just ue4 codebase it struggles a bit
but VS has gotten better with on the recent versions
quick heart
i see thank you i will check this tomato
gray granite
latest vs doesn't have 8.1sdk with latest ue4 should that be ok or do I need to install vs2017?
small fern
it's a paid plugin normally
just get free trial for 30days for the jam
VS2019 works with ue4
I'm using it myself
if you ever compile actual engine code, there's an issue with latest VS2019 c++ toolchain tho, you need to roll back one older version or it will not build all of ue4
but that may have been fixed already
quick heart
i use 2017
eternal edge
uneven fractal
@tranquil matrix do you guys have two vive setup to play vr multiplayer, 2v2? or only 1v1?
onyx hare
@eternal edge I'm featured somewhere? :O
eternal edge
@onyx hare They were showing your bunny game for a good 20secs ๐
tranquil matrix
@uneven fractal We can do 1v1, can't guarantee we can do 2v2
onyx hare
He's the one who's been busting ass while I'm on vacation :D
uneven fractal
@tranquil matrix ok cool thanks!
brave current
All my ideas are too big for a one-man-band
uneven fractal
@brave current Same! haha
sonic echo
AW... most of my team is not on and 1 is missing from my teams server
west wing
I have under 43 MB empty 64 bit build, without the prerequisites installer.
idle summit
@west wing Good luck lol
zenith gust
@west wing 43mb total for the whole folder, 64bit, unzipped? impressive
zenith gust
yeah
small fern
Epic only counts unzipped tho
I just started my custom build
but I expect this to break before getting to editor :p
zenith gust
I know, make a point to ask 'cause many miss that part ^^
small fern
well, you can probably get to 43mb with stock engine too if you use exe compression
but that's high risk way as it can get flagged by antivirus
zenith gust
yeah, and at that point you're already at the complexity level where a custom build makes sense
I think the real challenge lies in how you make your content
gray granite
having trouble adding a hardware cursor .cur file editor won't let me add the file?
small fern
"building project "DatasmithSketchUp2019.vcxproj" -- FAILED."
why do I even have this here ๐
west wing
It's unzipped BP project from launcher version of engine.
"Create compressed packed packages" and "Cook only maps" and using shipping configurations are main package size affectors. It should get most people below 100 mb right away, even with some room for the content.
fallen shard
Which of the previous jam entries do you guys think has been most impressive project? I'm looking back through some earlier winners
civic dock
Oh man, that's tough. There's been a lot of great ones over the years.
small fern
@west wing that sounds very unlikely still
I've never gotten that low on older ue4 versions with those steps
not even close
zenith gust
@west wing I've never seen anyone claiming such small numbers with only those settings for a 64bit build, which is why I'm asking. Out of curiosity, if you build for 32bit, how low do you get?
small fern
more like 70-75 meg on 64bit
fallen shard
the results 2019 video is 1 hour long lol
uneven fractal
@fallen shard I'll give my biased answer KRYPTO ๐
gray granite
got cursor issue figured out, had to move the files there in explorer?
small fern
no idea if they slimmed core 4.24 tho
I'll soon find out when my build is done
altho I already stripped a bunch from it
west wing
Then, to get down to 42 megs, I also used /Build/Win64/PakBlacklist-Shipping.txt list to remove the bloom kernel and some garbage, disabled almost all plugins and compressed engine executable with UPX (42 โ 15 mb).
I don't remove unused DLLs, because it could cause random crashes. I also don't compress dlls with UPX, because some of them are signed and different checksum on well-known dll is very suspicious to lot of antiviruses.
small fern
so yeah, that's what I meant earlier
zenith gust
aah, so it's exe compression then
small fern
exe compression
that explains
but please be aware that not all antivirus likes that
you may get complaints that their AV flagged your game
west wing
Compressing engine is fine.
small fern
because many malware creators use UPX to hide the malicious files
gray granite
@west wing using upx basically gets your stuff flagged as a virus anywhere ๐
west wing
I've checked with virustotal, none triggered.
west wing
@gray granite no, it doesn't.
zenith gust
@tranquil matrix Can we get a clarification on if it's okay to compress executables with external programs? If so that allows for quite a bit of extra space
gray granite
@west wing yes, it does, anywhere that matters ๐
small fern
it's not automatically flagged
but it has happened in past
even UPX site warns about this
gray granite
I'm not saying individual AVs, I'm saying any distribution services
west wing
I guess some people compressed dlls.
gray granite
none of them accept packed stuff
small fern
@gray granite virustotal is a service that checks the file with most major AV scanners, Alex tested it with it
west wing
Which is digitally signed and cannot be altered obviously.
small fern
so he's likely safe
gray granite
@small fern to clarify, I'm talking about distribution services / portals
small fern
ah
west wing
Yeah, it's full green for 64/64 antiviruses, for engine executable.
small fern
that's another thing
but yeah, I'd still keep room for uncompressed exe
just in case
shy anchor
Good luck everyone, may the force be with you
fallen shard
If you're one to take "Down to earth" literal, you may want to use 4.24's new SkyAtmosphere as it can seamlessly transition from space to earth haha
small fern
what's up with this really?
I mean, that's just one thing among TON of things I see coming to Unreal just after Unity has done them ๐
and stuff like sky has been untouched for years before it
same happened with GTAO, terrain rework etc
stable kiln
trojan in every UE4 game ๐
glass fossil
It's a race @small fern just like any business, it will be some form of competing
small fern
all in all, that sky thing is very fitting to this jam ๐
yeah, I've just never seen UE4 responding to Unity before
usually it's been the other way around ๐
but yeah, it's a win win for users
better tools for all
fallen shard
Can you link me unity's version of this sky feature?
glass fossil
Unreal has been laxing ๐ Now they're stepping their game back up again
small fern
it has planet render as well
that being said, it's not been there for long either, I think it arrived like half a year ago or little before that
fallen shard
Thanks, didn't know they had this sorta thing too
small fern
it's not really production ready yet so they don't make noise about it
it's just weird that same things suddenly start appearing to both engines
for Unity it made sense as they didn't want to keep patching their old procedural sky for their new HDRP
so they just did the sky from scratch
anyway, this is bit off topic already, sorry about that ๐
quick heart
let unity fix their grass for hdrp first ๐ waiting 8 months already
gray granite
could anyone share their gitignore for ue4 projects?
fallen shard
https://github.com/tomlooman any of these should have a decent gitignore
afaik templated from "unreal"
gray granite
@fallen shard thank you
civic dock
๐
graceful oriole
not me
civic dock
I'm seriously considering it. I want to try those modeling tools in a game jam.
limber bear
I am in it for the sky atmosphere
graceful oriole
what modeling tools
stable kiln
i wanted to use chaos but it crashes a bit, might be due to amd card
civic dock
@graceful oriole 4.24 introduces an experimental new modeling mode.
It allows you to model simple static meshes right in the editor.
civic dock
Hahah
Just be careful. It's in preview right now so it's not stable. ๐
Use at your own risk!
limber bear
I heard that for some folks 4.24 is more stable than 4.23 for their games
obviously depends on the use case
civic dock
Indeed. I didn't have any issues with 4.23, but plenty of other people did.
carmine kindle
I tried using Chaos in 4.24 and crashed half a dozen times in the first 20 minutes.
civic dock
It really depends on the project.
I think this theme might give me an opportunity to make a game that's just relaxing and chill. Sounds pretty down to Earth, right? ๐
stable kiln
i can use the small lvls in chaos but the demo map gives some memmory error after a while
no idea on packaged builds tho
civic dock
Yeah, that can have a different outcome.
stable kiln
i might wunna do a VR game and never packaged for VR so i should prolly do that right now P
civic dock
That's the spirit! Package early and often. ๐
limber bear
atm we have and idea that both interprets down to earth as a literal thing, and as the meaning of the word
which is quite cool
civic dock
Nice.
civic dock
Oh god.
limber bear
and multiplayer
civic dock
๐ฎ
Damn dude! That's gonna up the scope and challenge a decent amount.
Good luck and have fun!
I usually take a day or two to form an idea before I jump into Unreal and start developing stuff.
limber bear
yeah, we capped the idea time till afternoon tomorow
but I mean, we usually scope quite a bit
glass fossil
anyone have a gameplay idea?
civic dock
Not yet. I'm busy preparing materials for my meetup tonight.
gray granite
I have a custom hardware cursor working in the preview, but it's not working when I package, I put cursors in the "Slate" folder do I need to do something to have that included in the pak?
west wing
I usually lose a day to find an idea.
final meteor
what is the theme of the game jam?
final meteor
thats seems like a big theme
limber bear
@civic dock u in a team?
gray granite
tried to do this to try and get custom hardware cursor working in packaged builds but no luck
final meteor
is there a way to see how many that has joind the game jam?
minor hemlock
https://itch.io/jam/2019-epic-megajam top right
gray granite
2,155 have joined
final meteor
ty xD
gray granite
must be cache difference
minor hemlock
yeah,firefox switched to tab I already had open
west wing
It could be near 450 games this time.
gray granite
anyone know why .cur file isn't being included in package?
I have a custom hardware cursor asset but it only works in preview
neat leaf
try explicitly including the directory in your package
gray granite
like this? doesn't seem to help?
zenith gust
Think I finally have a workable idea, gonna sleep on it and hopefully it still feels decent tomorrow
GL with the first day everyone!
quick heart
does anybody know, i saw a chaos update...do they still ask to build from sources?
small fern
@quick heart looking at 4.24 sources, it's not enabled on the build conf by default
gray granite
๐ค why not working?
carmine kindle
You need to enable it in the plugins in 4.24
small fern
@carmine kindle chaos?
carmine kindle
yeah
small fern
it works on launcher version?
carmine kindle
yup
small fern
because github source code I'm looking at seems to have it disabled still
bCompileChaos isn't set to true on either these
gray granite
does anyone use hardware cursors in their UE4 game?
broken cedar
Does anyone need a programmer to UEJAM?
small fern
why would you care about hardware cursor in a game jam game?
gray granite
@small fern I care about presentation
rugged plaza
Why is everyone talking about cats? What is the connection? I just know the theme but cant find any info
carmine kindle
I played around with Chaos a bit before from the 4.24 launcher version, just had to enable the plugins and restart the editor and it showed up.
gray granite
and this is something that should be easy https://answers.unrealengine.com/questions/921876/hardware-cursor-not-working-after-cooking.html
seems others have a problem with it too, and Google isn't helping me find answers on what's wrong
west wing
I use software cursor. Nobody complained yet.
broken cedar
Does anyone need a programmer to UEJAM?
rugged plaza
Ue4jam and cats? Why do people keep bringing cats up?
carmine kindle
Space cats is a special category that you can, but don't have to go for as well as the regular theme.
rugged plaza
Oh I see ok.
west wing
They talked a bit about it's origin in the stream, but I missed most of it.
carmine kindle
There was a jam where people in this channel were discussing what the theme might be before they announced it and everyone was jokingly hoping it would be space cats. And a number of people actually included Space Cats in their games.
minor hemlock
I bet there will be more space cats games than games with a "down to earth" connection >_>
tranquil matrix
@zenith gust RE: Compressing executables with external programs
Yes, as long as nothing else is required to run the .exe
gray granite
there has got to be at least one person who uses hardware cursors in UE4 successfully
minor hornet
any lowpoly 3d artists want to make cute space cats for our team?
(please @ me if yes) ๐
small fern
@gray granite this channel isn't best for technical questions
I dunno if there's really specific channel that would fit for that but you are still better off asking about that in #ue4-general than here ๐
slate salmon
how's everyone's brainstorming going?
minor hemlock
I've got an idea, rest of my team is coming up with ideas
gray granite
okay I give up on getting hardware cursor, @west wing do you use widget for software cursor?
minor hemlock
so we just need to settle tomorrow ๐
slate salmon
im stuck on using the theme literally, like going back to earth.. i cant imagine how to use it metaphorically
west wing
@gray granite yes. Pointer is in the middle of the widget, so make sure you offset your image.
idle summit
I'm still brainstorming, good thing about being solo is it's all up to me
west wing
@slate salmon it's even worse when some clever use of theme disappears from the scope changes needed to complete the project.
hidden flicker
was at the kids playground ~~ and stole a lot of ideas from the kids there ~~ and was inspired by the playful games they came up with
slate salmon
yup, agreed
west wing
@broken cedar go solo.
glass fossil
yes
solemn oar
What do you think, is a story platformer too simple for the jam?
or is platformer even valid thing to do, since you can find an example implementations in UE resourses?
glass fossil
Platformers are easily in scope, as long as your core loop is simple
minor hemlock
if you're doing a platformer as simple as the templates then you haven't got much of a game ๐
it doesn't take much to "exceed" the template though or whatever their wording is
solemn oar
platformer with dialog system exceeding the template?
minor hemlock
literally if you set up a level it's exceeded the template
that's not the stairs + bridge thing
๐
gray granite
@glass fossil I need to learn how to make splashes like that, what do you use?
idle summit
Add earth and profit
glass fossil
@gray granite I use After Effects CC 2019
west wing
@solemn oar default material is still applied. You'll get in trouble!
glass fossil
@gray granite If you send me a storyboard / idea and the assets when you need it I can piece one together rq.
gray granite
@glass fossil so it's a video, not done in engine?
solemn oar
I don't know why, but platformer stuck in my head, can't think of anything else
glass fossil
@gray granite Yeah, UE4 has built in skippable intro movies
gray granite
are splashes typically video only in UE4?
west wing
It could be a little UMG animation with animated Render Opacity.
small fern
I kinda want to make platformer too
glass fossil
Why use UMG when you can do a quick .mp4 and use the native functionality
small fern
but can never fit any ue4 jam theme into one :p
west wing
@glass fossil dunno, why not.
glass fossil
Touchรฉ
small fern
if I just do literal take on the theme, every genre goes really
gray granite
@west wing thankfully widget based cursor works in packaging, but I am confused about the offsetting how to do it properly
small fern
(also can't type anymore, I guess I should get some sleep soon)
glass fossil
@small fern , In an alternate world where the seven rings of Dante's divine comedy are above the earth instead of below. A disavowed angel must fight it's way through each ring and then limbo before being allowed to live the remainder of their days as a human on earth
8 simple level designs, platformer metroidvania-esque
ezpz
solemn oar
good one ^
old frigate
Guys, asking in case someone check that before: are we allowed to use memes in the game?
From what I remember you should have rights to use all of the content in your game submission... from basic google search memes are grey area from what I understood.
small fern
I wouldn't
considering you need to have rights to use all content you put there
and memes are often captures from others content
west wing
@gray granite something like this.
glass fossil
@old frigate If an image is used for parody or satire of self, then it is fair use
So you will most likely get away with it legally
Though I doubt the game graders would really think it's a good idea
small fern
that's not really great approach
just think about it for a second
you could take a screenshot from any movie/tv-series and put a heading to it, make it a meme
it's still sketchy AF
and this is what most memes are
glass fossil
Yeah, and... that's completely fine. That's why memes are allowed in general
west wing
Current level of ideation: Jumping the little clouds until got to the grassy ground. Damn!
glass fossil
But that's a digression
gray granite
@west wing thank you, am I doing something wrong here, there is a huge panel I can't seem to resize like you have it?
small fern
@glass fossil allowed by whom?
ue4 jam rules are really specific: you have to have rights to all content you ship it with
and memes are definitely on gray area
gray granite
maybe I should read the widget docs?
old frigate
Thanks for the tips everyone, we'll think carefully before using them ๐
small fern
just because nobody can stop people doing memes doesn't mean the memes content is accepted
glass fossil
@small fern There's been law cases where memes have been considered parody or commentary so it's allowed. It's only disallowed if it's libel or slander. As far as UE4 jam goes? Chances are you're not gonna get away with it
small fern
nobody just can't stop that
neat leaf
best to ask the guys at epic rather than speculate
feral wind
What's the theme for the jam? :D
glass fossil
@neat leaf speaks the true true
small fern
look at the topic? ๐
glass fossil
@feral wind "Down to Earth"
feral wind
Ah thanks!
west wing
@gray granite move the anchor to the middle until it snaps to 50%. Hold Ctrl button to keep the Position.
small fern
as another topic, 4.24 ignores my blacklist now
west wing
Jumping little clouds down to the ground.
small fern
could be anything
loud basalt
Don't need to take it literally
small fern
and solved my blacklisting issue, it worked all along, just not without pak because... it's pakBlacklist ๐
just used it without first to see the files without digging saved folder
glass fossil
@small fern could be scifi?
small fern
if you want
glass fossil
but its not realistic๐ค
west wing
@small fern try UnrealPak to explore the final pak contents.
small fern
nah, I just use the saved folder now
it's practically the same, it still lists the same files
west wing
Blacklisting is working this way?
small fern
I mean, you can find all the files in the saved/cooked folder that would otherwise get included on the pak
west wing
@small fern sure thing. As I don't have much experience, it was helpful to confirm assets being ignored. I also run WinDirStat on the unpacked folder to find heavy unused assets.
small fern
I use WizTree
it's like 100x faster than WinDirStat
it doesn't really matter on ue4 projects
but it does matter if you scan drives etc
small fern
it's possible there are some files I'm still missing so checking the unpak tool could be useful
west wing
BTW, I found it's quite easy to cause crashes by excluding some seemingly unuseful assets. Like, world material grid texture.
small fern
yeah, that happens
altho what I do myself usually is that I setup blank project first
then remove all engine default stuff from it, make sure default material isn't in it etc and only then start stripping
hmmm, I'm still at 62MB
west wing
Yeah, I did that too. Weird that some clearly unused stuff still referenced and cause crashes.
austere marlin
They did mention that the DOWN TO EARTH meaning has to come within yourself and not from a Lexico, It might help some and LIMIT others, Feel free to go beyond that and find ANY other way to related YOUR OWN MEANING of Down To Earth. As I did.
idle summit
It all comes down to interpretation
west wing
@small fern no plugins?
mild marten
Can I get in a group for the Game Jam? I can be a 3D and 2D artist
limpid trout
does anyone know- if im making a game by myself but I get voice acting lines from someone else, does that count as them being 'on my team' or no
gritty beacon
a ton of chaos code is always on now
small fern
I don't get it, there are tons of plugins I already disabled, now enabled again
west wing
@small fern I've similar exe size without plugins on 64bit. So it could be at least 10 megs smaller.
small fern
yeah but this is 32bit
should be notably smaller
but yeah, I'll see where I get when these plugins properly get removed
somehow it didn't register the removal for really many of these
they just got enabled again
sonic echo
Sigh still barely my team is on Discord and one is missing from the group, despite him still in my PM messages
limpid trout
If anyone knows if i need to list any voice actors as team members, please @ me
rugged plaza
They said space cat. I present to you... CatRocket. Am I being too literal? Lol
nova oxide
did they touch at all on if we should be uploading a development or shipping build or does it matter?
nova oxide
yeah, doesn't print out all my debug prints either lol
glass fossil
so for the game jam, is "down to earth" the only prompt?
minor hemlock
optional additional theme of Space Cat
but it does have to relate to Down to Earth
glass fossil
alright
manic shale
back to earth = down to earth?
minor hemlock
sure ๐
manic shale
YEAH!
small fern
I'm still at 59.9MB for the stripped project
I wonder if 4.24, DX12 and raytracing have anything to do with the extra mb's
also possible that VS2019 c++ toolchain just creates tad bigger exe's too
austere marlin
@manic shale Yeah why not. ๐
surreal quarry
Anyone doing the mega jam?
gritty beacon
a lot of people are yes
civic dock
Over 2,000 in fact!
surreal quarry
Ok, I'll rephrase this. I do 3D assets, and I would love to be part of a team. This will be the third jam for me, you can see a little bit of my work on my Twitter. (@Phant0mSl0th): https://twitter.com/Phant0mSl0th?s=09
Twitter
tranquil matrix
@limber bear It's a manual invite, there will be more invites going out
limber bear
thanks
mild marten
Anyone needing a Artist for the Jam??
rough cobalt
I'm looking to do a jam if I can find a good team. I've made a game already and will send a link in pm if anyone is interested. Please include a link to your stuff in the pm.
I can do blueprint, make anything in 3d, know materials in unreal, and particles.
quick heart
is there any voice actors here?
wet rivet
6 hours in, steam match making is implemented ๐
limber bear
how crazy am I to want to edit the engine for the game jam
wet rivet
Go for it
limber bear
also, damn I also need steam matchmaking
and we still dont have a concrete idea
we just know it will be multiplayer
wet rivet
It's not too bad, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-fnrC3OB5E is what I referenced
I cut out all of the excess stuff though like profile making
limber bear
space
wet rivet
cats
limber bear
that skydive
wet rivet
into
wet rivet
in order to
limber bear
get revenge
wet rivet
on the evil
limber bear
pug
wet rivet
I'd buy it
limber bear
same
tardy quartz
this is epic
sonic echo
Man, someone in my team is no longer in the Discord and now another one just said he is now unable to perticapate
๐ฉ
and that person was are artist
man what I'm gonna do, I do have an idea for the game but this team is falling apart
sonic echo
Part of me is almost thinking of going solo, but I don't know, of just abandoning the 2 other people that are still in the group
feral wind
you'll grow so much going forward going through without the artist
since you'll be aiming to fullfill the role the artist would have done
autumn abyss
@fallen shard hey Tom do you go over server browser on your course ?
somber hazel
@sonic echo why don't you just talk with your team about it? just be honest what you feel and tell them ๐
sonic echo
@somber hazel yeah I know the issue is the constant time differences makes it trouble to chat with them
somber hazel
I feel ya, I def. do ๐
my team is sleeping right now, we couldn't come up with an idea, will try in a couple of hours again ;P
that said, yeah it's difficult, when they come back, tell us how it went ๐
there is probably no right or wrong here
sonic echo
another thing to worry about is I share a game prototype I made as a possible idea for the jam, lot of them said it unquie so now my mind if flooded worry of some just join and left with my idea
carmine kindle
Ideas don't really matter too much, it's what you make out of that idea that does. There's usually several games based around very similar ideas on game jams anyway.
autumn abyss
@feral wind I see that you are also a fan of russian 90s music, wise choice ๐
feral wind
I've stumbled upon it through some tutorial videos using Shazam
if its similar to synthwave, I'll definitely love it
autumn abyss
let me increase your influence https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K69_m4gtZDk
feral wind
its pretty groovy! ๐
fringe furnace
gray granite
been learning a bunch ๐
gentle storm
I've done bp for a few years now if anyone needs an extra programmer pm me
earnest lake
need a programmer pm me
idle summit
@gentle storm good luck lol
small fern
You will need the following information at the time of submission:
* Team Name
* Each Team Member's Name and Email Address
* Game Name
* Name of your submission
* Please format your name of your .zip file with your team's name attached, ex. TeamName_GameName
* List any content that was created before the jam that was included in the final submission.
* A link to gameplay footage to be included in our highlight reel on the Epic MegaJam results livestream, if you so desire.
* Please keep your video between 30-60 seconds.```are these asked on the itch submission form?
I feel that instructions should be more clean on this
@tranquil matrix any comments? ๐
it's been forever since I've submitted on ue4 jam, last time these were given out on private messages on forum :p
old frigate
A team of four is looking for the second 3D artist to join us ๐ We have a game idea and already started prototyping.
small fern
(which also got leaked on forum hack later on :D)
also, found first 4.24 bug already: if you rename your startup map and package it, it will still try to load the map with old name when you run it, despite the new map name showing up just fine on maps & modes default maps
had to set it to some other map and then toggle it back to truly register
that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if this issue has been there always
somber hazel
well yeah, if you just go on itch.io and click on "submit your project", everything they need will be displayed
small fern
so how it goes is that you prepare the itch page as you want first, then submit and it'll ask additional things
also just found out that raytracing does not work on 32-bit builds ๐ ouch.. my 64bit blank build is 70MB atm
somber hazel
yes, upload game on itch like usual and if you click on submit, you can select the project and need to fill in a bunch of boxes
small fern
ok, thanks ๐
somber hazel
oh... before you can submit, I think you need to click on join ๐
small fern
yeah, I've done that already ๐
eternal edge
european mornin to ya'll
zenith gust
mornin'
tawdry lark
Anyone still in need of a programmer? I've done BP for a couple months and some C++ as well, dm me!
http://hianhianhian.itch.io
maiden loom
Compressed exe?
small fern
yeah :/
maiden loom
That a new feature?
maiden loom
Curious, this is new on me
How much of a saving is that on the binary?
(I suspect third party compression is probably outside the rules anyway though)
maiden loom
Neat
small fern
for me the main exe goes to 18 megs on blank 4.24 project
maiden loom
Oh wow
civic dock
Damn, you guys pushing the limits of tiny games! Love it.
small fern
with tons of things disabled
civic dock
That's a lot of headroom to work with.
maiden loom
That's huge, that would take us down to something like 25Mb
small fern
I think 4.24 is just bigger in general
maiden loom
(with similar savings)
small fern
I got it down to ~30 megs on some older ue4 version with 32-bit builds
but I'd really want to try ue4's raytracing on this, so need to have 64bit
maiden loom
Definitely gonna look this up when I get to the office :D
That's fair, 64-bit makes the binary a lot larger
small fern
do note that latest UPX release doesn't work with VS2019
had to take their automated dev build
as it has fix for it
maiden loom
Good to know, but not relevant to me thankfully
small fern
VS2017 should work out of the box
I'm still going through some dll's, see which ones I can strip ๐
it's not going to be many megabytes tho
maiden loom
Apex were the only ones we stripped
small fern
apex dll's don't even package when you disable it from engine
at least not for me
I think I could strip physx debugger too
unless it's enabled by default
maiden loom
They did when I tried, had to manually remove them in source
small fern
I don't really see why they'd do that on shipping build tho
small fern
also don't know if we need cooking if we don't do runtime cooks
maiden loom
We don't need it,but it's a few kb
small fern
yeah
zenith gust
UPX just feels too external for me, like it's a tool everyone should use then and has very little to do with the engine itself or using the engine in a way that creates a smaller game
small fern
the ones I'm wondering the most are DbgHelp and libsndfile folders on 4.24 builds
zenith gust
but oh well, if it's allowed it's allowed, it does give some impressive results
small fern
these are 3MB total
maiden loom
Libsndfile was tiny on ours, IIRC
small fern
for me it's 1.7MB
maiden loom
But I don't know what that one is anyway
small fern
dbghelp doesn't sound like a thing that should be on shipping in the first place
maiden loom
DbgHelp IIRC is already compiled out by default
small fern
not for me apparently :p
maiden loom
Config setting maybe
zenith gust
libsndfile is for sound data, https://github.com/erikd/libsndfile
guessing it's for the new audio features?
maiden loom
Sure, I guessed as much, but where it's actually used is the question
zenith gust
But yeah, I'm not a fan of UPX being a thing, it really should be recommended for everyone in that case as it has little relevance to the engine ^^
just to make the playing field more fair
maiden loom
I would have assumed it wasn't allowed, but I'll prod Victor later for double clarification
'cos if it is, we'll get at least 10Mb back for content and that's huge
small fern
glass fossil
i'm having headache with it
zenith gust
yeah I asked specifically because I thought it ought not to be allowed, but seems it is for now
small fern
considering I got ~30MB left for content without it and it's allowed....
zenith gust
@glass fossil My current idea is not that nice theme-wise, but I'll keep at it for now, I usually take too much time to pick something
small fern
I mean... it's so tempting
zenith gust
Yeah @small fern, on a launcher build the 32bit build goes from 35mb to 11mb executable size, that's a huge save.
small fern
this is 64bit build with UPX
zenith gust
with the heaviest compression option in upx
small fern
yup
I think have some room for stripping on that pak too
and I'm fairly certain that you get more space if you can use tad older engine version
zenith gust
If you don't need any editor stuff and the randomly packaged noise materials etc you should be able to cut at least 10mb from that pak
yeah the older versions bundle less
small fern
nah, can't
I've already blacklisted most things
shader cache is like 13 megs already
but there's definitely some stuff still left there
zenith gust
Aah, yeah I assumed stuff like shaders set to shared compilation
13 sounds high unless you need a lot of fancy material stuff
small fern
this is blank project ๐
but yeah, I have DX12 + raytracing setup now
I could imagine one could go with some other renderer to save some extra even
wide falcon
Hello, first Jam, had to read for a while; since this is my first time here as well, Hi!
zenith gust
Yeah, I think the mobile shader cache with conservative features comes out much smaller, though ofc if you need the features then that size is very much worth it
@wide falcon Hello! ๐
wide falcon
Interesting that you are trying to manage your space on a blank project
floral zenith
Need a sound designer for the epic mega jam. Anyone interested do contact me. Thank you
small fern
actually just checked, if I remove the shadercache, I'm left with 5MB pak
so there's probably few megs extra but it's quite hard to get out because random dependencies
If I could get rid of WoldGridMaterial and DefaultDiffuse, those would be the biggest wins left right now
wide falcon
"Post-Processing Volume
Many settings which impact ray tracing performance and quality are in the post-processing volume, as seen in Figure 6. This includes such features as:
Maximum distance to evaluate ambient occlusion rays (shared with regular AO)
Number of samples per pixel for ambient occlusion
Maximum roughness to apply glossy reflections to
Maximum number of bounces for reflections
Number of samples per pixel for reflections"
small fern
@wide falcon basically trying to slim down the project first, because it's way easier to do first than as last step because random things break
and yes, I'm going for under 100MB always ๐
(modifier category)
feral wind
I'm fighting with a shared camera
the camera isn't zooming out, and my 2nd player is having spawning issues D:
might restart that tutorial from scratch
wide falcon
@small fern Nice way to think about it! I am learning and it sounds like I have a lot to learn
zenith gust
I would not worry about the size the first time around, plenty of other things to learn first ๐
though it's not terribly hard to get it down should you wish to
wide falcon
Unfortunately I don't worry about size usually and I have so many projects that my hard drive is slowly filling up. 1 TB isn't much
Good luck, I am going to try cooking up a good game, dev on!
maiden loom
@small fern - UPX compressed our game binary down to 11Mb
small fern
sounds about right
zenith gust
Very close to the numbers I got yeah
maiden loom
puts us down to 23Mb, which is nuts
zenith gust
yeah, it's hard to say no to that
gray granite
current progress, still in learning mode though
tested megascan asset import
and changing skybox
anything I finish with will be nowhere what someone who already knows UE4 can do but it's still a useful experience for me ๐ผ
I also have a game design I am targeting
lean obsidian
@gray granite - Now, this is only a hunch... But I'm guessing you're aiming for hitting the space cats modifier... ๐ Looks good, keep it up! ๐
copper patrol
Hey guys
limber heart
who needs a programmer in their team for the megajam can contact me
copper patrol
Well i want to make a game to impress a girl that work with me, however the jam theme is kind hard XD
feral wind
Id consider it to be fairly open
copper patrol
Down to earth, the only thing come to mind is falling -_-
feral wind
could work for a dating sim
talking to a "down to earth" NPC
or escaping a dungeon just to "get down to earth"
copper patrol
what about a boss battle ? each time the boss rage he smash the earth we fall a level down , until the final level
glass fossil
@copper patrol that's why I'm making a game about falling
lean obsidian
Gotta get creative. 'Spaceships come down to earth' - 'A pirate puts booty down into the earth' - 'Someone is so down to earth, they do everything sensibly' - yadda yadda.
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Loads you can do with this year's theme
feral wind
technically it is
its usually the social conditioning of corporations and school systems that drain creativity.
glass fossil
I'm thinking about something like the player has to safely, calmly (down to earhingly) get down to ground (earth) from a building that's breaking as you go
ok hand
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copper patrol
@feral wind i don't think so, i think creativity is coded in ADN something genetic.
Oooh Amanda is here
tight osprey
Hey! Why can't I sign up for sideFX anymore
Was it available for 2 month trial only until jam actually starts?
glass fossil
heading home I'm so ready to get to work on the game
near cairn