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But, that gives me a great idea of how to properly do "ratings"
I'll base it on them in the future, 1-10 for each of those.
Apologies if it doesn't feel that way. But we have an internal spreadsheet in which we score each one, on a scale of 1-5 in fun, theme, and visuals.
We'll be sending out a survey in a few days to gather feedback on the jam from everyone.
Sweet
also, I'd like judges to check the submission .exe modification date before sending out prizes
since google drive actually supports version management now for zip files (without the need to modify the shared link)
which I belive was on victors feedback list
to have separate hosting site for the submissions
Oh wow, good catch @uneven basin , but yeah @copper carbon ... life would be much easier if Epic hosted the Jam Submission site
Like a Itch.io jam-like
you can see the last edit date on the google drive page too, but it dates most recent change like writing descriptions and stuff
but the .exe modification date should be accurate
that's the build time
but does it keep timezones in mind? I don't think so
I was also disappointed because of the vr stuff. I saw victors play through after the submission and thought - that looks too good for one week - and after visiting the YT channel it was clear whats going on
I believe windows tags stuff in UTC
then converts for the UI
but either way, if it's 12 hours past the deadline, no timezone will explain that
yup, according to MSDN it's in UTC format
so to adjust to my timezone on the screenshot I posted, that's 5 hours past the deadline
when I create/modify a file in win10 it is in my local timezon, not in UTC. but yes - 12 hours is difficult 😃
well it should only be in local time if the file format is fat
The thing about these types of situations is that people can easily "recreate" from "scratch" in a blank project past prototypes.
Showing clean/valid entries in source control commits
And tbh, I don't think he probably went into this thinking, "Oh let's go cheat MegaJam for a win"
Is there a list with winners ?
Video recordings typically only happen on one monitor
So there is no telling what's going on in different monitors or other PCs
I mean @copper carbon is going to have to try and figure it out, and he does have hours and hours of videos and commits (well 10 or so) to show as proof, but again... in these types of situations it is just best to be cautious.
You don't want other devs to think this type of thing is okay.
Some were already joking about starting their jam entries for next year tomorrow.
I guess that's one pro of doing the gamejam on location like GGJ, you can see each other working thus making it way more difficult to cheat
Hmm, maybe I guess
Still doesn't mean you aren't using old stuff?
It's really a slippery slope
Like I said before, I doubt he was trying to go full on into Cheat Mode here, but I still think this is an invalid entry.
I mean, if you keep alt-tabbing to another project to recreate it, the person sitting next to you will probably notice at some point, so unless you remember exactly how to make everything it's gonna be a lot more difficult to cheat (though you still could, I'm not saying this makes it impossible, just harder)
And I know I am going to get a lot of crap about it
Especially from his fanbase whenever he does his YT video addressing it
Though I really like how this jam allows people to just work on it from home, definitely not saying this jam should become on-location only
Haha yeah good luck with any crap coming your way
Meh, it's not like I haven't received backlash for stating the obvious before.
What I don't get is when people message me about something but then don't expect me to respond to it.
He took what he learned off a prototype and made a different game. It feels very much as if you had experience building a platformer and then used that knowledge to build one for the jam. If this is an invalid entry, then every team that started with a UE4 template and modified it to suit their needs for the jam would also be invalid.
Yeah right...this is Victor Burgos we're talking about
@copper carbon That actually makes no sense though.
It's really not a different game
Eh, it's what makes jams like this one fun to me. Not just the participating, but seeing people like you @rigid fog who stay involved even afterwards, playing/streaming all the games for everyone to watch, giving feedback on some projects, staying active around the jam in other ways than just participating.
New art makes a brand new game nowadays?
There's obviously a fine line between building out an entire game and then just shoo horning a theme into it.
I'll remember that for next jam then.
Well, I mean, it was pretty obvious that it was a shoehorn to me?
But, again. I mean, I am not a judge, don't work for Epic.
Whatever you all decide, just remember that it will have consequences.
And @copper carbon I think the point Victor is trying to make is the "gameplay has to be different from starter template" rule, which he didn't follow, though his template was one he made himself before the jam
Not saying it is that way, just that I think that's the point VIctor is trying to make
Well, you aren't even supposed to be using your own templates anyway
Again, it goes back to the rules about creating things outside the jam
No exactly, you're not supposed to use the starter templates and not change anything, and here you're extending that rule to self-made templates instead of just the UE4 ones
I mean, to be honest, if this stuff was disclosed on submission and he still won, then well, can't do much about it. It's just how Epic rolls.
But, if nothing was disclosed, and now it's just a game about trying to win people to your side of the argument. Then again...whatever
Though now I am curious which VR game you think should've won?
Hmmm, there were a few good ones.
I thought the Molla Shine one was definitely the most unique, had good visuals and good gameplay
The theme connection was there, but hidden.
Anyway, let's be honest here. The chances of Epic now taking a step back from this VR fiasco is probably not going to happen.
Bad PR either way you go about it I guess.
True, true
I am just one little dude with a big mouth 😉
Just trying to keep everything real around here.
Right, and sometimes you need a little reality when talking about virtual reality 😉
using own template or not, still leaves an open question how the uploaded .exe was modified past deadline
you can download the submit yourself and check the time
Lost cause @uneven basin ... from the recent chat by @copper carbon , it doesn't look like anything is going to happen.
Shame
About that VR game, I watched Devlog #3 and the visuals are totally different 😐
He didn't reuse anything from his template
The most obvious gameplay feature is his character that follows the VR player
But most of the stuff is rewritten, a lot of the interaction stuff is different
Cool, so now we know everyone. Create your templates now, then just improve upon them in future game jams
And some folks will allow that to slide
But make sure that your visuals are completely different
Make sure to record everything on your main monitor
And start in a blank project with a fresh source control commits
GGWP, ezmode to winning now
That's basically what you're saying btw
Obviously he used his VR knowledge and had an advantage with the following AI, and I still don't see the connection to the theme
Aye, there's a difference with having working knowledge
Everyone has something going into the jams
While it is lame to expand your own game in a gamejam, this guy put at least the same amount of work like others did
you dont script AI like that in a week
Ofc
He didn't
Well, who knows
I mean, it's not terribly hard
And he only has 10 commits
But if he mentioned it, the judges will focus on the other work he did
yea, other work
Sounds like he didn't mention anything and submitted it as 100% original work
did you see all devlogs?
Aye
I also had a 1on1 with him today
He definitely said all the right things. After the fact.
I dont see the point mentioning this, is he cool if you state him?
I will not repeat our conversation like that
hey hey, he is here! ❤
He can defend himself
saw him typing 😄
Hello! Amanda mentioned a discord chat!
Aye, he's always been here.
Thought I'd check it out 😃
alright buddy, watch out for your words, we are all looking and judging you O.O
?
I meant this chat lol
I've been on this server for a while
Hey Ninjin!
Haha judging, go for it. Any questions?
If you wanted to, you should just CP what you messaged me
wtf is that theme connection? 😄
Theme connection?
Oh the orbs of light?
I didn't get time to put in the darkness particles/ make a nice darkness material on the platforms.
So I used the same material for the platforms haha
I mean, that is the only thing that I didn't like about you winning 😅
oh right! Fair enough
I mean, letting him win is a message to all new users "hey, everyone can win this jam, use your knowledge and expand on that to deliver a polished game of your current knowledge"
or something like that
huh?
I actually have all of the footage of me making it from scratch. I could make a behind the scenes video series
so I don't see anything wrong with that
You'll need to rephrase that
and all the differences in the blueprints
Since I produce YouTube videos I recorded a lot of the process
@fallen raven I'm actually trying to defend you 😄
I don't think it really matters anymore
Oh thanks haha!
Epic has already signed you off right @fallen raven ?
I mean, I don't see the point everyone has made, so I was just confused what's wrong
Aye, as in, you're good to go. Found no wrong doing. No invalid entry. Etc.
oh right! Yeah! Amanda contacted me through Discord earlier.
I had any files ready to show if required.
👍 Yeah, so, the amount of actual research done was about 0%
So, no need to even bother with it anymore
oh btw! I actually sent you 20 commits
Oh my bad
sure, dig the past
Hey Ctzn!
I saw your post about the exe
That's the time in Australia that I had submitted the build/ built it
time/date I should say
I was really stressed about the timezones actually
I still think it's lame though, but I also never won a Jam, because I always dig into something I've never done before 😄
like in a good jam you're suppose to
try new things under stupid time stress
but now we know it doesn't pay off if you aim for the prizepool
we all learned something today
@somber hazel that's one of the biggest reasons to do jams though
To learn something new and have some fun doing it
Do something different
Well, everyone has their own reasons for doing them though
to be fair, the term for a jam is so widespread, people have different motivation
I guess that's just my view
exactly, Im 2 slow like always ^^
Right
lol
Again, like I stated before. I don't think @fallen raven was intentionally targetting the prize pool here
I don't think he came in and was like... I am going to cheat
no, that's kinda obvious
But, that doesn't mean his entry IMHO, was a valid one.
Oh I see! I understand your perspectives now.
I actually feel like I did quite a lot of innovation within my work.
I had never done a physics based motion controller system before. Previously I had only used the in built vr pick up so physics based interactions was very exciting.
The light orb mechanic was really cool to get working, I didn't think I'd be able to pull that off.
The camera system! I made it not as glitchy as it used to be so I'm quite happy with that 😃
Oh! and the emitted light to power things, I quite enjoyed that but I feel it was a little confusing for people.
But I can understand your perspectives! I hope this dosen't cause to much of disruption for you guys.
btw when I say innovation within my own work, I mean within what I've done haha
you did physics based motion controller 5 months ago
nope! have another look
Everything is clipping and it's all built in vr template stuff
o.o
😉
@uneven basin Can you link a video?
I've got it here 😃 Gimme a sec
so, one physics constraint, improved hmd accuracy and added a material param
physics constraint!? It took way more work then that
I wish it was that simple haha
I'm going to get to work on my next video. I'll check back here sometime later today. Have a good day/ night everyone 😃
Is there a link with the winners ?
with no answear 😦
Heya - I’ll have a list up in the next half hour.
@copper carbon and the raffle winners?
@robust basalt well, i don't mind to join some programmer but i don't know any participating...so...probably solo
I'm in too
I worked on a prototype for a few days but didn't wanna keep working on it
yeah
too long time to keep focus 😛
I'm joining with a team of 4. I'm hyped!
@robust basalt hmm 4 hours... hmm
3am for me, not gonna do that 😄
will get a good night of sleep and then wake up to a good theme, hopefully
true true
Ludum Dare 40 Theme:
The more you have, the worse it is
@rigid fog are you in?
Not sure, lots to do this weekend. If I find some time, I will.
that's actually a good theme
the more freedom a theme gives you, the worse it is
I'm at the usual stage where I have so many bad ideas 😄
I have a ship and it feels pretty good to fly around! https://i.imgur.com/is9Lvun.gifv
@civic dock I don't want to interrupt you from your jam, but I'm curious on what you did for this trail effect. At first I thought it was a bunch of debug draws. Is it just a particle effect you made?
Yes it's a simple particle system.
I'm about to continue streaming on Twitch. If you stop by I'll show you what it's like. ^^
Alright I found your stream in #share-your-stream. I'll make sure to check it out for a bit 😃
Okay people!
If you want to play this Ludum Dare jam games:
https://ldjam.com/games
Compo games has all the sources (there are 1023 submissions)
There are 2 apps that allow you to bind Keyboard controls to GamePad:
J2K (by MK2k) https://emulation-evolved.net/
JoyToKey 3.7.9 by Ryo Ohkubo (do not look for updated version, it is paid and seems not maintained by the same author) http://vision.dormantcore.net/joytokey-3-79-english-version-jtk379en-zip/
https://ldjam.com/events/ludum-dare/40/delvers-sunset this game is brilliant!
https://ldjam.com/events/ludum-dare/40/permanence - very polished game
Hey everyone here is my submissions to LDJAM. Feedback is more than welcome! https://ldjam.com/events/ludum-dare/40/jump-plus
Thanks!! 😄
@winged chasm You should make a post on forums about it, as a learning resource it's probably priceless
Think so? It's pretty simple overall. :p
@gusty glacier unfortunately
The thread tried to read from or write to a virtual address for which it does not have the appropriate access.
Thanks for the notice @compact cedar I honestly am not sure why that is happening
Is there a list of all the UE4 gamejam entries for LD?
This is our game. We ran into severe time issues at the end, but we managed to release a "playable" game (with bugs). 😃 https://ldjam.com/events/ludum-dare/40/play-to-win
Our ludumdare40 game - sadly didn't manage to get the lobby to work properly and just made 4 players fixed - https://ldjam.com/events/ludum-dare/40/alpaca-air-attack
Programmer here that can assists on your projects/Game James. Feel free to dm on discord.
@cerulean geode rules allow you to fix bugs after deadline
Thanks for the info @compact cedar. I'll upload a fixed version later today/tomorrow. Somehow our laser disks broke and we didn't even notice with all the stress so close to the deadline. That bug breaks half the challenges and I fixed it in 5 min.
For some reason the last 3 game jam teams I've tried to join or start have flaked halfway through or have flaked right before the end. Maybe I was just lucky with teammates when I was never to this stuff. Maybe I stink.
looking for a programmer for game jam
*life*
@dusky vessel No, some people are just ill/crazy.
Had an artist in my team. I didn't like that he couldn't come up with a simple game idea, so he was dead for me right from the start, but he still gave some input on our ideas and during the jam, he kept saying he is working and he is nearly finished. I already took his job after he didn't show any results on the first day + showing lack of interest.
But the fact that he joined our voice chat and still made comments like "Ill finish soon" "model done, animation next" and comments like "this will blow your socks"...
Wasting his own time and trying to waste others time...
You really have to watch out what people you chose O.O
He probably also took the name of another guy
Was someone from artstation with a decent portfolio
That's why I even tweeted I'm thankful for the people I have worked with, had a sellout taste, but it's important to know who is legit
That kind of thing can be avoided by being on hangouts with screensharing 24h during gamejams ;)
A teammate once called me "unprofessional" that was a hoot 😄
@onyx hare Sounds more like spying 😃 I'm not the biggest supporter on that. Besides, I really don't see the difference in my case. I still lose the 1 guy and have to find a replacement. Point is... there are crazy people out there and on my case, there was nothing I could do beforehand.
screenshare while working is the best
Emphasis on "getting the right team BEFOREHAND" 😛
aye
oh I misread that, you want to say there are a lot of positive things about screensharing that outweight spying (less procrastinating just to name the biggest argument), but yeah, I still won't support spying 😄
sry for assuming you read my stuff wrong ❤
no worries 😃
I must have gotten really lucky when I was just starting to do game jams by finding cool people to work with, because nowadays every time I do a game jam I either get some people who eventually flake on the project or just don't find anyone at all.
Daaamn. I just found my old game concept, horror survival based on lighting, it could be an amazing game for the Light Theme jam. -_-
oo
What game jams do yall do?
What is a game jam?
its a jame made of game
*jam
can be venison, bear, rabbits etc.
and then u add sugar
if u add fat its a confit
I like witcher 3 jam
wbu
@somber hazel test runs man, test runs, solves all those problems
@proven badge but who is willing to spend time for that? sure, you are spending a weekend for a jam, so you should be able to spend a day for a test run, but how many people will do that? sure, my last team description was pretty troll on crowdforge the first couple of days, but when I changed it, there were even less people joining and it's difficult enough to get people with some kind of experience, if you look like a tryhard/professional who wants to win, I experienced less people will join, that's why I tried something different on the mega jam
but I came to the conclusion that online game jams with a team are not my cup of tea and I'd rather do gamejams at a location where I can see people straight in the eyes O.O
when I first started gamejamming (still in my uni days) I kept insisiting on test runs primarily because I wans't confidend enough in my own abilities and wanted to establish of what can my team members expect of me during the jam and vice versa
yeah, some people instantly declined with an excuse that they have no time, but I managed to find people for test run and then full jam every month (this is back when ue4 jams were monthly)
To be honest, there were runs that didn't worked out. But that was the whole point of a test run, You got to see who's slacking., or who overboasted about their abilities without the pressure of actual jam. Meaning that it was not so demmoralizing rebuilding the team again and keeping in touch with people you actually liked working with
where can i jam with other jammers?
There is a join button right on that page
Does the project have to be finished by the 14th, or you have to enter the contest by the 14th?
can someone tell me of a game dev contest that you know of, which isnt in too long, but not soon either, like between 6 months and a year
@signal rivet next megajam, expect it around november
or a smaller jam (3-5 days) 4 months before that
@proven badge ok, thanks, cause i wanna join some contests with my friend to get better at game developing
oh, thanks
anyone know if there's gonna be more intel level up game developers contest?
Game jam where you can use only Unreal Engine 4 content and engine tools https://itch.io/jam/ue-jam
anyone got a team going for that unreal4 only jam? looks like fun.
no 3d model software, might be a good time to test that in engine modeling 😛
discord for UEJam: https://discord.gg/2Xs66yD
Greetings, fellow denizens of cyberspace.
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@sweet remnant sorry, but how would you make a game where you can't use starter content AND can't use authoring apps? i.e. you can't use models and can't make ones
the only way is to make procedural ones, but this is quite complex and you can't make UVs
also, game suppose have no sound? since i believe there a few people out there who knows how to generate sound in ue4
@compact cedar You can use engine content like this
Just create new project without starter content and use all things which you can find. There are a lot of things..
@sweet remnant I see. Those are pretty generic tho. i.e. sphere, plane etc.
@compact cedar thats the point though, you have to macgyver a game out of whatever you can find, it sounds great! the possibilities are huge
@marsh iron not for me tho, many default assets provided with ue4 are really crap, i had to remade them
^ the engine ones
I agree with @compact cedar These default assets are garbage and the naming convention is even worse.
@somber hazel well, we were talking about jam where you can't make own assets outside engine and cant use starting content
i.e. only engine content allowed
Uhm... I know?! I read the chat 😄
help me
so I see theres a weird game jam starting friday, no non engine tools allowed, no starter content.
so not exactly sure whats going to be made.
aside from "make the bsp cube drop in the hole between the other bsp cubes"
anyway. anyone know when the next official game jam is ? hoping in march
i think between february 23 and march 11
@mossy sedge could go grab the dev-geometry branch and see if you can get it to compile.
sounds scary and complicated.
main reason for the hope is i have 7 weeks off from march 1st.
should be neither tbh
give it a go, livestream it or w/e so you can show you're only using in-engine tools
Should that be the theme? 😛
@copper carbon Yes, special birthday tribute to you
But...I could see that go wrong in so many different ways
D:
why sad?
What versioning engine are you using?
Perforce helix - will be good as long as theres less than 10 of us
am hosting it on a spare dedibox
thats a pretty long jam, isn't it usually 3 days?
i think its just a chilled jam, I'm working on other projects too ^^
its a fun challenge too, I plan to squeeze the sample content to its last drop of usefulness
4.18?
.18.3 yeah
they got some extra hidden content
will be useful 😃
well, ill be honest, ive never done a legit jam before, just personal deadlines
also im not specialized, i dont think ill be of much use to u
but good luck with it 😃
cheers bud ^^ i reckon anyone can help with this even just as testing, if you want the team discord feel free to dm me ill send you it
i gotz to go for a drive, imma think on it and let you know.
oh crap, discord autoscroll again
@glass fossil talent
@glass fossil, You do not have permission to use the talent command.
One more space opened up on our team for: https://itch.io/jam/ue-jam
Have a good concept, a team and project is already underway. Message me if you are interested!
nice
oh jeez, that's short notice
Not only short notice, which meh, it's two weeks, good enough for most (good enough for employers)... the biggest gripe I have is that the jam length got shortened... @copper carbon 😭
Kind of wish y'all could stick to one length.
it's a normal Thursday to Sunday?
@copper carbon speaking of https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/epic-games-at-global-game-jam-2018
can someone tell us how to use new sound engine? we still have no even basic documentation...
o boi, crowd forge sure lewks awfully empty for teams :/
well
seeing how it took a few weeks to get even MegaJam teams
rolling
It's a good possibility that it's just a little too little too late
But, who knows, wait until the weekend
ah i see, this is my 2nd gig so not acustomed to how things go :3
I guess i can lock myself in, large cuppa and winter jammies 4 this one
I'm on holiday tomorrow until the 8th, so I have no chance sorting anything out, heh
minecraft is better than GTA 5
Hello 👋 , if you are looking for a team for a team to enter with, or your a member or two shorter than you'd prefer then check out the Crowdforge UE4JAM page, partner up and build some awesome things! https://crowdforge.io/jams/UE4JAM Any questions , issues, feedback.. were all ears 😉
So for multiplayer entries, i usually see steam subsystem, but with the regional settings and stuff isnt manual IP typing more user friendly?
Manual IP is way more normal for jam games
most i seen use steam subsystem
@copper carbon I don't see any mentions on HTML5 packaging? It's 60mb for an empty project, would be great to include it 😃
I updated the topic for this weekend's UE4 Jam. 🎉
if any 3d artist is still seeking a grp, we are looking for a fifth :3
I forgot this was happening again
these happen so seldom nowadays that it's easy to forget
might attend again and also not finish again 😄
kinda pains me that I actually submitted once and that game was completely unfinished
so, special category winners don't get forum badge? 😄
when is the next game jam?
oh 2 hours left
nah, starts in 2 hours
until kickoff
ya 😃
just thought about it
ok i hope theme is something i can think something out
cuz previous the dark and light one... i couldnt think anything
i wont get any of the special categories 😄
im bad with character design, i dont have VR hmd, idk about 100mb
o shit. its 3 days 😮
ok it will be at 9pm for me when it kicks off so i will just start with doing plans on paper
waiting for the theme like https://giphy.com/gifs/gotham-foxtv-fox-broadcasting-3oKIPprpY4ocoQQGMo
that GameJamToolkit
On Thin Ice eh
empty c++ project, disabled all plugins except udp/tcp messaging, 64bit, since 32 seems to be not allowed, compressed, only 1 map, shared materials, exclude editor content, shipped, 105mb on 4.18
since im just gon be too lazy to enter, heres a tip for anybody looking for a cool visual effect: bubbles under the ice that react to player/enemy/object movement like what happens irl on thin ice
lol ninjin nice quick find, report to amanda i guess
now someone tell me if inlcuding prereq files are allowed or not
I did, no answer
otherwise, we need someone who actually knows which Unreal version is packaged under 100mb
that's 77mb for me in 4.18 though, saw another guy in #packaging who said he got it to 50mb, but no idea which version he was using
could put a note in the readme etc that game requires VC++ redist etc if you worry about it too much
it'll never be 50mb out of the box
need to strip it
implement uharc, use that to package all assets, and then have a 2hour loading screen where u unpack em
hm... nah, it's just... they just copy paste the category from another jam and it feels like they have no idea 😐
@somber hazel I asked in the forum thread a few days ago about the prerequisites, didn't get a clear answer, asked for clarification, hopefully we can get a yes/no
'cause apparently that's what people have been doing before, otherwise the stated numbers of 50MB can never have been reached
@humble marsh no need to take it literally, they even judge on unique use of theme
@somber hazel I'm going to assume that 32bit is allowed as well, and that they just used 64bit as the example in the theme, nothing in the thread says 64bit only
If you say that someone is on thin ice or is skating on thin ice, you mean that they are doing something risky which may have serious or unpleasant consequences.
in thin ice so thinner than expected of the ice
32bit is fine
it runs on 64
but
be aware that 32bit packaging used to be bit bugged
yea dont mix up them showing how to package a build for win64 on the stream based on a question with win64 only
it often just fails
hell i might as well submit balls of snow again
make a game about lying on your tax returns
@small fern I saw you saying that you got a template down to 30MB on another jam, just how much did you exclude? I can get mine down to just 50MB, and thats with slate blacklisted
well, I have my secrets 😄
my blacklist is not even working 😐
@small fern haha, fair enough, would be nice to hear after the jam 😄
@somber hazel did you see my post on packaging?
I'll just package for HTML5 and say: "nobody said it's forbidden"
I gave example path for blacklist
make sure it's correct for HTML5
also, is HTML5 even allowed?
for gamejam
they said to package for WIndows 64
I'm pretty sure it wasn't allowed before
@small fern ofc I did, we even talked about it 1 or 2 jams before, but I just tested the same stuff I did some versions ago for the new version
@slender sedge that's just general advice, there's not 64bit requirement in the rules
Does it actually say what the theme is anywhere on the forum posts?
right
also 32bit runs on 64bit systems
pretty standard now tho
they won't even notice, most likely
@carmine kindle probably need to wait for amanda to edit the post
Mhmm livestream is a bit late
I use some of my old assets "they won't even notice, most likely" 😐
Or I'm stupid
?
how was the jamreel last jam, only ppl that added a video to their jam got in there?
@copper carbon forum thread is missing the jam theme
you dont need to rec or stream the whole thing either right?
What's the theme?
"on thin ice"
it's channel topic
Oh ok
They said they need to update the post with the theme
Finally something I can work with
OMG
I HAVE A FRICKIN AWESOME IDEA
IT PUNCHED ME IN DA FACE AND SAID DO DIS
And I will
how do you make crystal meth thin?
I like meth
What is it majik, TELL ME!
hey that was my idea:P
I don't do meth
FPRPG about a skinny meth addict
I didn't say what is my idea
XD
I got* nothing
I got nothing as well =p
I always have the same idea for every game jam, regardless of the theme
tile based puzzle game
ok now they updated the post
I can always figure something out as well, But I can't think of anything fun this time
with theme name
Hehe I have good idea
I am on thin ice right now
Idk if I will be able to make shader for the thing
Yes idk if I will be able to make it look good
cave demo has ice shader, its decent
now everyone downloads that and uses as is
Lolright
but just look at this https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGlywAsOrask4X6/giphy.gif
Yes
I m afraid this single material is more than 100mb
most saturated ice ever
heh
it's like frozen meth
That's a really blue ice
that's just voronoi pattern
like, really blue
Where is the SUBMISSION FORM?
you ready?
now I only have one issue
Special category: Games under 50s
I'm still compiling UE4 engine here
been doign this for 4 days straight
well im still in doubt submitting my older balls of snow entry and just put : everything in sourced assets 😛
maybe I'll get it to compile today
QUESTION: Can I use third aprty assets such as substance textures and megascans models?
you can
you can use those, but you need to disclose them (put note what you used)
@mkod you can use everything, as longs as you disclose it
but you should tell that you used them on the submission
Okay, and do I have to disclose that right?
yeah
Ok thanks guys
be aware that in such case, you'll not get "this looks fancy"-points
as they'll not give you any grade for good looks
for that I include a dick pic
Yeah I was wanting to use it for time saving more than anything
I am gonna focus more on use of theme and gameplay
anyone need a texture tool to make there own with photos for free?
for the only jam I actually finised, I only used engines own textures
mainly noise patterns
lel
setres 100.000x100.000
would ask if anyone want to work together.. but i kind of just want to start now
I solo always, that way I don't have any pressure for not finishing :p
Gotta get an idea first ttt
is there some asset pack we need to use or are we completely free?
you can use anything Lars but if you do you need to disclose on your submission
you don't need to use any preexisting content
fine.
Preferably your own assets .. other ones from marketplace etc have to be disclosed
if you can make everything during jam, even better
did they announce the theme???
you need to disclose your own premade assets too
I think the only way to make everything yourself is go stylized look, not pbr
then I#m working now... Hope i get something finished. saturday i have a family date I can't skip :-Ü
yeah sorry that 😒 what i ment
sick ty
my birthday on 10th
I have a really good idea that i will not use..
is the full potato team participating? ❤
to be honest Jams dont feel as fun now they are once every 4 months :/
nope
Anyone good with sfx/vfx wanna work with a coder/modeler/animator
😦
good, free game idea: a game where you have to fake being transgender so you can go into womens toilets
edgy, I like it
[TRIGGERED]
On thin EDGE
Before I would accept the worst ideas ever and just start making them, but now I'm making it hard for myself :/
@slender sedge dunno what it is, but it needs more blood 😛
I might have, never noticed it tho
Getting over it but on ice and 3d first person
that makes my physically sick
VR
that's a great idea
good luck Majik
I just thought of idea guys but i think its scope is kinda ridiculous
you are in a discord channel and you nobody has an idea, and you have to trigger everyone by posting how great your game idea is
oh well
Xd
lol
He doesn't he's just saying it to trigger others and make them not focus on making ideas so that others lose and he wins
Lool
you have to invest in bitcoin as much as you can before the bubble burst, plot twist: you will always lose in this game
I'm a genious
too soon
Well I don't care about winning cuz I legally can't get prizes
Cuz I'm 14 shush noone tell anyone
"Legally" pffff
laws and rules are there to be ignored
Xd
a game where you are legally not allowed to do stuff, but you are doing it anyways
wunna make a game about north korea at the olympics, but im gunna get hacked harder than sony if I do 😛
Lol
If you're worried about the rules saying you're too young, just say your grandma made it
You're God damn right
⛸
All these gamedev grandmas nowadays, taking over the industry!
😂
trying to be a youtuber, doing edgy stuff in public, crossing ethical lines, trying to get more views while trying not to land in jail
or i could make a game called :Paragone
😃
bottle royal, a game about alcoholics
Make the next big MMO
Yes, make an MMO in 3 days
Be sure your scope is huge
if its turn based MMO is super easy
Huge? I'm making just a little mmo, not anything like gta or something
If a soldier w/ bow is archer, than was do you call a soldier w/ shield and sword
Infantry? Swordsman?
Swordman, I like that thank you
I actually just want to make a space game
how would ice be invlved tho
@robust basalt make it about comets maybe? Like, mining comet ice to get water, or w/e
if you want to be literal with the ice thing
otherwise the whole "on thin ice" saying can be used in any setting eh
Solo and bust, the classic
Question: are we allowed to share our idea or we gotta keep it on the down low?
kellogg's frosties: put as much as sugar in your products to addict children, but don't get caught by FDA
I like that one
@void mango you're allowed to share your idea, but there's nothing stopping someone else from using the same idea either
dayum, I only got ideas that involve shitty people doing shitty stuff today
I want to make a game that is borderline offensive, where you have to do borderline offensive things to annoy people
an offensive game, yeah, I always wanted to blame someone, that would be neat
or some game that raises questions and stuff
oh, maybe a game where triggered has 2 meanings
some flag burning and comics of mohammed
nah, you are walking on thin ice with that one
I want to trigger people, not setting them on fire 😄
If that's done well, it could be quite fun.
But it is the super obvious thing to go for with a theme like this.
But, but...
I can't make another one, it wouldn't have the same cool factor.
I GOT IT, I FINALLY GOT IT
I'm not sure I'll actually get around to making anything this time anyway, unless I get a really good idea
well i might just not join this time, lost all motivation after a few hours last time
damn
he is uttercrap 😛
lul
@compact cedar too late allready posted 😛
oh, my bad
@humble marsh there's nothing wrong with winning by that mechanic...since you probably have to compete 30 similar games
why would you assume there is a better use of theme than literal thin ice?
i think in all the jams winners were predicted really good
i have an idea that doesn't use this mechanic tho...not sure if i will participate this jam (team seems busy -_-)
I did make a reversed noise outline in an hour or so, was kinda impressed by myself 😛
Still time to find a team for the jam https://crowdforge.io/jams/ue4jam
what is reveres noise outline
used noise for displacement, reversed it too make an outline for it
flip the norms and reverse the noise
it wil outline the displacement
thought of it myself, doubt there is a tut on that 😛
thanks 4 share 😉
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I think I have an alright idea
that makes 1 of us
Yeah, didn't manage to figure out anything fun yesterday, gonna have to keep thinking while working today so I have something ready to start on when I get home
yep, 8hours of sleep.. still nothin
Make a frozen pole licking simulator?
with proper tongue simulation
VR tounge simulation
I think I'll miss this jam too
still compiling ue4
for 5th day
so, not looking good 😄
nah
trying to get faster iterative builds, I don't have patience to wait 40 minutes after single line chage in engine code anymore
so I've tried all kinds of things here
now been fixing non-unity build for few days :p
yeah, this is a disaster
I don't think there's any real solution for this
other than farm of i7's or i9's
but that's not something I can afford right now
😃
@small fern tried https://github.com/bozaro/octobuild ?
@compact cedar not yet, I did try fastbuild for few days
@small fern this one made for ue4
does it help?
like work in practice?
I came across that, but it looked like it wasn't been updated anymore
@small fern yep...first build 40m...net one about 7
it doesn't need any updates...
oh right
this had some really funky setup
which is why I skipped it in the first place
it uses Incredibuild code that comes with ue4
@compact cedar ah
well, worth trying I guess
still going to fix this non-unity build first
want to see the impact of it
Is only the mega jams 1 week
Cuz this is my 2nd jam
And 1st one was previous
1 week
so this is the shortest ue4 jam yet
@robust basalt this is the old game jam time
they only recently added the extra 1.5 days
actually, they had 1 minute more there
I feel like we are mising some hours
it's 6am in the mornig for me
I remember working until 8-10am for me
Hmm, the forum thread says 11:59 PM
while the countdown is for 11:59 military
so 11:59 AM
So instead of midnight the timer ends midday
Maybe I'm just confused, but to me it seems like if one wanted 11:59 PM one would have to specify 23:59 on the timezone site, but I may well be missing something
look closer under the time
it says on what timezone it is
Time until Sunday, 11 February 2018, 11:59:00 (Raleigh time)
oh
it doesn't specify AM or PM
"The jam ends on Sunday, February 11th at 11:59PM ET."
Is what it says in the forum post
yeah
it's a mistake
so we have another 12 hours most likely
yeah, all written info is right
@robust basalt that explains your percieved loss of hours ^^
@copper carbon can you check the timeanddate link, we think it's 12 hours too early
2 days left and didn't even start
Cuz of my time zone
And I have school too so for me it counts just 2 days to make a game instead of 3 😔
And I have to edit every message cuz I can't write on phone xd
Happens to many of us, can't skip work just like you can't skip school 😉
Idk if I will be able to finish the game :/
Make it small, extremely small scope
Will have to cut some features myb
But yeah, I feel you, I have often failed to finish my games on previous jams
It's about running on ice and trying to not fall into it while a snowball sentry is shooting at ice to break it
It will be bad
Xd
I wonder how literal I should be with the theme... hmmm
@compact cedar how can one tell that octobuild is working?
like, is there's some log/new info on output
I'm still at school and haven't started yet, this is the normal jamming schedule for me 😃
though it's a nice way to force some time for planning and creating ideas
i planned at school
during lessons xd
but shiet
have to do a lot this weekend for school
we got the priorities right
yeah
but idk if i will be able to make my game happen cuz have to write that thing (12 pages of just text about something that teacher said)
8 of them are written
and do experiments for physics lesson
i think im out of this jam
too little time
and i just cant sit nonstop 8 hours at ue4
some of my best were done in under 3 hours 😛
you dont need those at all 😛
fak.... i spilled milk at myself trying to open it XD
and what about character?
i cant model for shit
uses 1 cube for characetr xd
make it first person
ue4 mannequin for the win
solved it
first person doesnt fit my idea
bend the idea
and i will have to model everything around playable are because it will be seen
but to be serious
3d person characters are way more work
it's not just the character
also animations and interactions
lots of things that can make it look crappy
only interaction is picking up a powerup
oh wait...
I CAN MAKE A BRAWL GAME
oh wait no
idk what to do there
🤔
oh no
lemme see if i can find one of my older jams 😛
well, I'm still compiling UE4 here, probably tomorrow too 😄
I was thinking about a penguin fighting game
I'll stick with penguins but not the fighting game
First 12 hours of my play-through of all the UE4 game jam games for Feb. YouTube seemed to be unable to process the last 8 hours of the play through session,...
mine starts at 9:14:00
3 days
aww
its a classic 😛
so for me its always 2 days
I like it like that
The mega jams are a week
unless the megajam is on a holiday it's really difficult to find time
once a year, before christmas
ok im starting my project right now
@small fern it is shown in the log (octobuild)
on first run too?
I'm not seeing anything different
or you mean that octobuild has it's own log?
I installed it manually as the script failed
so it's possible it's not properly setup atm
but I have no idea how to verify it as it should "just work"
@compact cedar
I ran one from here http://dist.bozaro.ru/windows/
that's where the script pointed
took 0.014-x86_64.msi
I think it's the newest
also rebooted the computer
I think it's recompiling the whole engine now
but I didn't get any octobuild related note on the VS output log
you'd think there would be at least some note it's using it
@small fern Jam ends at 11:59 PM ET - the text was right, but the link was wrong. Thanks 😃
yeah, I can see it's fixed now, all good then 😃
I'm still doing ue4 compilation stuff, not sure if I attend, others seemed to be on the planning stage
theme is nice tho
I'm still stuck at work, but pumped to get home and get started soon!
Just have to handle that small thing called scope, and how mine is never small enough
it is possible to make small scope, i once made a game - you need to just heat up metal ingots, place them on table with sticks and depending on how much there is it makes different melee weapons (there were 4), and give it to cube guys sliding besides you, that was my first game, 1 year ago i think
so dont worry 😄
it was made in 2 days
having issues with my laptop graphics, it switched to intel hd graphics I finally noticed it now
Limiting scope is always key. It can be tough to trim down though.
Oh - nothing like your computer acting up at opportune moments!
@compact cedar oh, I had to force it on in the BuildConfiguration, thought it would be enabled by default
@small fern really? how does it look? i can't remember changing anything
(moved this discussion to #engine-source as it's not jam related)