game-jam-chat

[ashen meadow]

looks so organized

[tepid axle]

oh wow, my 2 line game looks overly simple atm 😛

[velvet echo]

😃

!gameidea

[glass fossil]

A role-playing game where you team up with shapeshifters to stop a giant asteroid from hitting Earth.

[small fern]

sh*t

[glass fossil]

@tepid axle honestly, you're probably more on track than I am. Pretty sure I'm massively taking on too much.

[small fern]

that's my idea

[tepid axle]

well I tried to make acomplex side scroller last time and failed at that

I even had a template given to me as well as using all Epics assets

[velvet echo]

can always ask for another one 😄

[tepid axle]

well Im focusing on the actual design this time cuz I think thats my biggest strength 😃

[ashen meadow]

@glass fossil wasnt your youtube video today about not taking on too much 😃

[glass fossil]

Yep, totally 😆 so we'll so where this goes.

[ashen meadow]

next weeks episode ... shouldve taken my own advice

[small fern]

hmmm

just did a quick field trip

will do some photogrammetry but not sure if I can use the textures at all due to 100 MB limit

should still help on mesh generation

got only two cliffs basically and then sun came up and couldn't shoot any more 😄

[frail palm]

How far have every one gotten into their game?

[ashen meadow]

i have an idea

thats as far as ive gotten

[small fern]

I got slimmed project with initial menu and level streaming in

plus the already mentioned field trip but there's no guarantee I can use this data

[glass fossil]

Code wise... still starting out, have all the GDD, planning, flow stuff done though.

[frail palm]

I have an idea, and was building a prototype little by little

[ashen meadow]

you streaming this weekend jv?

[frail palm]

yes i am.

[ashen meadow]

sweet

ill stop in over the weekend to check it out

[small fern]

oh wow, agisoft has fixed dng import, I could have done this whole thing without initial TIF conversion + color correction

oh well

[wind aspen]

hows everyone going?

[feral halo]

@small fern whats your jam idea?

[small fern]

settling the score ;D

[tepid axle]

Im done 😛

[small fern]

did you submit already?

[wind aspen]

I am liking this theme

[small fern]

me too

[glass fossil]

It's a fun theme

[small fern]

I could take this into multiple directions

[feral halo]

Ours is gonna either be awesome or fail spectacularaly

[tepid axle]

no way Id submit it if I were done 😃

[small fern]

although, not being able to do PEGI 18 limits bit the payback aspect

[tepid axle]

I got 6 days for bug testing 😃

[quiet thistle]

@feral halo Same. We have this really cool idea and mechanic going (well, I do anyway), and its either gonna flop or be super awesome

i just hope the artists i got from the local community college put forth the effort

[feral halo]

Ours is full 3d with a LOT of art

so either itll be awesome

or itll be trash

[quiet thistle]

ah well good luck finishing the art, thats what i always have trouble with...

[small fern]

I already planned to not do any art before next week

[feral halo]

the advantage of having multiple people

[small fern]

but I guess some 3d scanning will do even at this stage

[feral halo]

means we can be a bit more ambitious

[small fern]

just wouldn't want to do any 3d modeling until I've locked all my gameplay

[feral halo]

Our biggest problem is anims

[small fern]

so I won't do anything unneeded

[grizzled zenith]

I might not participate this time

[small fern]

perception neuron would be handy on jams

could just mocap the anims

[grizzled zenith]

I don't have good ideas really

[tepid axle]

just think of all those people with great ideas and no means to implement em 😛

[quiet thistle]

you can use my idea from earlier

have a characterized scoreboard as a pet or animal, and make the scoreboard really angry... so you have to feed it treats to settle it down

so its settling the score (board)

would be super easy and punny

[rigid fog]

Perception Neuron takes just as much time and prep

@small fern

[small fern]

probably plenty cleanup too

[rigid fog]

Not the end all of solutions, but sure, wpild be faster than most key anims

[small fern]

but still, better than nothing

yeah

I've tested ipisoft myself in past

that would be really handy for these kinds of deals

if you can have fixed camera setup in that one, you don't need to do any calibrations

and then you could just do the mocap immeatidly, without preparation

and it doesn't need any sensors or trackers

but sure, results are not as good

better than with regular kinect though

heh

maybe I should have limited the camera tracking on agi

this estimates that camera alignment will still take 9h 40 minutes

and that's for the sparse point cloud only...

[tepid axle]

if you had a solution for making full games in 7 days you wouldnt be here wasting your time jamming 😛

[feral halo]

We are doing a single level

and itll still be tight to make it in 7 days

but the nice part is if we wanted to sell it; its not hard to actually add a few more environments/characters

as most of the cvore mechanics are done

[topaz scroll]

I'm going full procedural, environment and music

Let's see how it goes xD

[tepid axle]

as long as you dont tell people it has MP when it doesnt you should be all good @topaz scroll 😛

[foggy shard]

after good night sleep i decided that I am doing music game idea

[tepid axle]

sounds good lol

(see what I did there)

lol settle - "Not marry Mr. Right, say"

[topaz scroll]

@tepid axle 😄 mhhh but it does xD

[tepid axle]

air guitars

[foggy shard]

i think i want to do my old idea about girl that beat monsters with bass guitar

[dull basin]

character wip so far >_<

[proven badge]

best character title shall be ours !!! muwhaahawha

[dire heart]

Wow @dull basin, way to make me feel poop about my lowpoly character 😦

Jokes aside, looks freaking awesome

[proven badge]

@dire heart Cover it with insane texture work and you're even

[dire heart]

😄

[tepid axle]

Heres my character as you can see we have hats implemented, http://puu.sh/rABgX/891685ce6b.jpg

[dire heart]

LOL @tepid axle

[tepid axle]

if Epic got their shit together I could draw with just splines and reroute nodes 😛

[whole shadow]

Hey guys ..

I am in a need of an animator/modeler ... (I wasn't planning to go on this route BUT it so happened... )

[wind aspen]

Had to work today:( Can't wait to get back to the making my game. 😨

[maiden loom]

Has anyone read the jam rules?

There are some very concerning statements in it, namely this one:
"All entries become the property of the Sponsor."

[uneven basin]

^very common

[maiden loom]

no, no it isn't

usually you grant rights to the sponsor to use your stuff for marketing purposes etc

this says they own your shit outright

[uneven basin]

not sure can they legally ask you to grant rights for marketing purposes to several parties

[maiden loom]

sure they can

[uneven basin]

but it's not like you have to send them project files anyway

[maiden loom]

according to the rules, you do

[tepid axle]

just use a heap of pattented algorithms and watch Epic have to pay all the legal fees 😛

[maiden loom]

lol

[uneven basin]

one does not simply claim code as their own

[tepid axle]

Epic Jam

[sharp berry]

Where is the rules is that written?

Found it

[maiden loom]

downloadable word documents in the main jam thread

specifically the sponsor documents

part 4

[sharp berry]

no wonder it was such short notice on the stream "for the legal stuff"

It's pretty hidden away too :/

So this is a problem...

Alexander said "its the standard legal stuff"

I really don't like that the entry content is not being explained..... How far is the "become property of the sponsor" going?

Is a entry being seen as a unit?

"The Selected Entrant will be notified by the email or phone according to Sponsor’s sole discretion"

Wait, does this mean that the entry is the "lead devoloper"?

I cant find where Sponsor is being defined...

[tepid axle]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098295/

incase anyone is having trouble

[maiden loom]

@sharp berry - yeah, it's pretty hidden, and the links only went up once the competition started :/

[sharp berry]

I hope someone can give more info about it soon

[maiden loom]

aye

[sharp berry]

I mean, I tend to put my jam entries in my portfolio, if I dont have the ownership because it became the property of the 4 sponsors... I cant do that :/

[tepid axle]

how is that even viable without a signature though

you could just say you were drunk when you submitted 😛

[sharp berry]

Wont change the end result

[tepid axle]

and trying to make sure sign shit without a lawyer too

[sharp berry]

People dirnk and drive all the time, still accountable..

[tepid axle]

theres so many holes in that

you cant sign a contract drunk

[sharp berry]

You agreed to it by making the submission

[tepid axle]

its not criminal law its contract law

[maiden loom]

the rules state that if you're asked to, you have to sign the corresponding paperwork

if you don't, you forfeit any prizes you may have won

[sharp berry]

I'm 3 pixels away from tagging all the epic members to ask for explenation 😛

[tepid axle]

yeah see if you sign that then youre screwed 😛

[maiden loom]

you already implicitly agree to the terms by entering the competition

[dire heart]

Guess i should've read the rules beforehand

[sharp berry]

I didnt knew them when I signed up

Were they present before 6 october?

[maiden loom]

no, but you haven't entered until you post a submission

so don't worry about that

[tepid axle]

and the EULA states what a submission is and the rights you give up

Im guessing they just used poor shorthand

[dire heart]

Just to be clear, when you submit your game you're also giving away your rights to it?

[sharp berry]

In this MegaJam, appearently yep

[tepid axle]

you give away some rights, they like to advertise their engine and Allar needs rights to stream it etc

[sharp berry]

Incomplete, garbled, corrupted or illegible entries are void and will not be accepted. Sponsor is not responsible for lost, late, damaged, delayed, destroyed, misdirected, or incomplete entries. All entries become the property of the Sponsor. Persons discovered entering under multiple identities will be disqualified. Sponsor reserves the right to disqualify false entries or entries suspected of being false. In the event of a dispute as to the identity of a Selected Sweepstakes Entrant, the Selected Entrant will be deemed to be the person whose name and relevant information was given at the time of entry

So the ownership goes to Falcoln NW, SpeedTree, Intel and Houdini

Is Epic a sponsor too or are they the organizer?

[tepid axle]

I would take that as they mean the copy you send them not all exclusive rights to commercially use all IP/Assets etc

in otherwords you dont license them a copy of your entry

[sharp berry]

In that case, why isnt this one used instead like normal

As a condition of entry, Contestants hereby provide a non-exclusive irrevocable worldwide license to Sponsor to use the Submission in any and all media throughout the world for the purpose of promoting the Contest and future versions of the Contest and Sponsor’s Unreal Engine marketing, but for no other purpose, without any additional compensation, the term of which shall be the entire life of the copyright

As Ambershee already stated in the topic

[tepid axle]

it is, thats the one in the EULA, thats what you agree to every time you use UE4

its under submissions

I can understand not being happy with the wording though, Id ask for clarification if I were you

[sharp berry]

So, before you give up your property, you give Epic an exclusive license, and then you lose your entries ownership 😄

[tepid axle]

all I can do is piss fart bout until Epic legal gives you a proper response

[maiden loom]

the line pointed out is very ambiguous, because 'submission' could be interpreted to consistitute things like IP rights

[tepid axle]

yeah in the EULA submission isnt even written in correctly

[maiden loom]

and they 'own' it, so you wouldn't theoretically be able to post it elsewhere

[tepid axle]

they dont ask you to give up IP ownership or any commercial right to your work, they only ask to use it for marketing purposes

even so if they want the packaged game what good is that without the raw copy?

if they decompile it thats very shadey

[maiden loom]

the normal rules asks to use it for marketing purposes

[sharp berry]

Well, I will write myself a paper and have it say "I hereby provide a non-exclusive irrevocable worldwide license to Amsanity to use the Submission in any and all media throughout the world for the purpose of promoting himself and have it downloadable in his portfolio"

[maiden loom]

the new one says "All entries become the property of the Sponsor", which is different

[tepid axle]

if you cherry pick but in context it doesnt sound quite as bad

just contact Epic, we have a week, Im sure legal can get to work on Monday if they left already

[maiden loom]

in the sponsor agreement, that is literally what it says, it isn't cherry picked

[tepid axle]

"Sponsor is not responsible for lost, late, damaged, delayed, destroyed, misdirected, or incomplete entries. All entries become the property of the Sponsor. Persons discovered entering under multiple identities will be disqualified."

if that context it makes more sense

[maiden loom]

There is no additional context

it says, what it says

[sharp berry]

If you cherry pick, once you made the submission, you have to ask permission to the sponsor to have it posted on the Epic MegaJam submission threat, as it became the property of the Sponsor

[maiden loom]

well, it isn't a submission until it is in that thread :p

[sharp berry]

Paradox! 😄

[tepid axle]

they are talking about entries as a piece of compiled software not all your IP/Assets etc belong to them

doubt theyd hold you at gun point, hand em over mate

[sharp berry]

What if, you made the submission 6 hours before deadline, at this point its property of the Sponsor, but what if, 3 hours before deadline, you find a bug that you can easily fix. Are you allowed to update your submission (you will change the property here)

[tepid axle]

just contact Epic, obviously its not written very well and the EULA needs an update anyways

then they can clarify entry and submission properly

[sharp berry]

At what time does Epic start their day? 9am local?

[tepid axle]

not sure why Epic would take other peoples games when they can barely finish their own lol oops

[upbeat wren]

@tepid axle BUURRNNNN

[tepid axle]

just doin my part to settle the score 😛

[sharp berry]

No streams atm on Twitch? 😮

[silver swan]

its just !game idea

[dusky python]

!gameidea

[glass fossil]

A strategy game where you slay knights to prevent the end of the world but you keep jumping backward in time.

[uneven basin]

question: if I attach sphere collision to skeleton socket with custom channel collision, can it affect the skeleton trough the collision(under assumption that skeleton is simulating physics too)

[maiden loom]

that is an awesome game idea

[scenic venture]

@uneven basin Yes.

Collision still bumps into each other even when attached together.

[quiet dawn]

this is actually super legit

so the game would be about defeating that drag back in time

!gameidea

[glass fossil]

A horror game where you count anything that touches you in a network of underground tunnels and there's no gravity.

[quiet dawn]

how does this bot do that? markov chain?

[calm bough]

!gameidea

[glass fossil]

A horror game where you deliver forum badges to solve a mystery and you have way more limbs than necessary.

[small fern]

@maiden loom yeah, I told about that yesterday here, also asked Alexander about it here and in the MegaJam thread

It is alarming alright

I will not submit if that rule stays till submission deadline

[tepid light]

Do you have such high hopes for the future of your game?

[sharp berry]

That should never ever be the question @tepid light

[lapis lichen]

Hey everyone, just to let you know @ruby cradle and myself are looking into this to clarify the wording.

[small fern]

@maiden loom oh right. You replied to me on thread too :) just reading it

[tepid light]

Great

[small fern]

@lapis lichen thank you :)

[sharp berry]

Awesome, thanks for the update @lapis lichen

[lapis lichen]

No worries, just wanted to let you know we had heard you causes for concern and are looking into 😃

[small fern]

I get why that text is there, I really do but the way it is worded technically also gives the sponsors our whole IP too

(It is there so sponsors can use the game for whatever marketing reason or showcasing their picks winner without getting into trouble)

[sharp berry]

The Non-Exclusive License that is being given in the default rules is sufficient for that

[small fern]

Yup

[sharp berry]

The giving the property to the sponsor is what I dont understand

[tepid axle]

awesome great stuff

[small fern]

I want to believe thats just an oversight with legal department

[tepid axle]

lol that under 100mb category, how small is your project @small fern ?

[small fern]

I try not to provoke people about that at this stage of the jam :)

[tepid axle]

well I got a blank project here and its 130MB

[sharp berry]

130? mine is just 12mb

[small fern]

Sounds about right

Lol @sharp berry

[tepid axle]

maybe the difference is CPP

[small fern]

Cpp diff is more measured in kilobytes for blank project

[tepid axle]

well the exe alone is almost 100MB

[slim light]

packing for shipping reduces it a lot

[sharp berry]

I cant CPP

Just strip away everything you dont need

plugins and such

[tepid axle]

yeah trying shipping now @slim light 😃

already did that @sharp berry

[sharp berry]

Dont use starter content

Dont exceed 512² for textures

[tepid axle]

its blank BP project

no assets cept for acouple of fonts

[sharp berry]

Go full Mobile

Wait, no. I take it back

[small fern]

Use unity, rename folder to WindowsNoEditor

[sharp berry]

bad advise

I want you to exceed 100mb 😛

[small fern]

They will not notice

[tepid axle]

somehow 1.09MB of content bloats out to 24MB

[small fern]

Oh right, "Made with Unity Personal Edition"

[tepid axle]

maybe the compression works in reverse

[small fern]

@tepid axle just read the official package reduction doc

[tepid axle]

dude

if I was an idiot I wouldnt be asking

[small fern]

Lol

[ruby cradle]

Hey, I heard there were some questions about the rules?

[small fern]

Sorry

@ruby cradle you mean other than that one Jess told you are looking into?

[tepid axle]

https://twitter.com/id_aa_carmack/status/771749108780523520 sounds like packaging for mobile would be worse 😛

[small fern]

Cant remember seeing much else here

@№₧ well fps template packages to over 300 MB by default :)

But sure, not empty

[ruby cradle]

Yeah, I see section 4 has a line about the sponsor owning the game

[tepid axle]

yeah but if its not even possible to get blank project to 100MB then the category is bullshit

[small fern]

@tepid axleit is possible

[tepid axle]

unless its 100MB compressed before install

[slim light]

it 100% is

[ruby cradle]

I'm going to have that clarified better

[maiden loom]

just remove it, the jam rules themselves should be adequate

[small fern]

I would give figures how low you can go but I will wait till submission deadline is over :p

[tepid axle]

my android project came in under 100MB so Im not sure why PC packaging is so much larger, mind you I did that on 4.13 not 4.13.1

[maiden loom]

it already provides provisions for sponsors to use submitted materials for various purposes

[ruby cradle]

Yeah, I'll have an updated version out soon. Just wanted to make sure y'all knew it doesn't mean we're trying to own your jam entry

[sharp berry]

From my perspective, the sponsors are trying to own it 😄

[tepid axle]

lol 150MB for this one, crazy

oh yeah thats kinda better

[uneven basin]

is it even possible to attach physics constraint to characters?'

[tepid light]

ehh.. I started making an RTS, and I'm worried it might me too complex project for a one person team

[uneven basin]

apparently you can attach stuff to characters, you just cant do it from properties panel, only construction script

[sharp berry]

My Game Project atm is just 48,8 MB @tepid axle

[small fern]

@sharp berry don't provoke him ;D

[uneven basin]

is this a measuring contest? 😏

[tepid axle]

yup I got it down now, thanks for the clarification though I just didnt want to be wasting time

[sharp berry]

Who has the smallest wins @uneven basin 😄

[tepid axle]

my GearVR project is 58MB I just wanted to know if windows could go so small

but I forgot that Bill Gates has a little one 😛

[sharp berry]

I think we can go even smaller

[tepid axle]

I remember Just Gravy was tiny

[sharp berry]

What are these? Is this for people with color blindness?

[tepid axle]

yup

[small fern]

heh

agisoft haven't even aligned cameras for my first photoscan scene yet

been calculating that 8+ hours alone

left it to calculate while slept, still doing it

I may need to process rest with less hq settings

[tepid axle]

well you guys are doing better than me, I managed to get mine down to about 56MB min that should do though

[maiden loom]

agisoft seems awesome, but it also seems like you need a pretty hefty machine to actually run it

it doesn't do distributed computing, does it?

[small fern]

well, you'd really need to have a build machine with agi, with tons of GPUs in it as it's a lot faster

but you don't have to go all out on settings

you can get quick scans in just few minutes

and since I'm targeting under 100mb , I really can't use the extra details either

heh, my "sparse" point cloud ended up to have 2 million points

that's not very sparse 😄

[mild spear]

afaik the pro version has some network capabilities. never tried it though

[small fern]

yeah, it could have

never been interested on that though

if I had money for pro, I'd just use RealityCapture instead

Standard agi does almost everything that Pro does for photogrammetry use, just little more tedious to use as it doesn't support scripting

[mild spear]

I've had a few occasions where it would have come in handy... but the license cost is kinda prohibitive

[small fern]

photoscan standard is $179 for perpetual

I dunno, I find that ok for what the software does

[mild spear]

did you try RealityCapture for a few things?

the standard ist absolutely great. networking is only in pro though, and that is quite a bit more expensive

[small fern]

I tested RC

RC is $99 for 3 month sub atm

so that's ok''ish

their perpetual licenses are way out of my ballpark though

I think one version was like 10k

[mild spear]

yeah, they become really expensive....

[small fern]

RC is just crazy fast compared to agi, and gets better results

[mild spear]

but just quality and speed wise?

that's two very good reasons then 😉

[small fern]

RC definitely has more advanced algos

[mild spear]

have you done some 1 to 1 tests with the same sets of photos?

[small fern]

nah, I've only tested RC demo, it doesn't have export, but you can see the difference on speed and nise there already

and I know people who do way more photogrammetry with pro gear

one person said that "RC beats Agi, pants down" 😄

[mild spear]

haha

[small fern]

but agi isn't bad either, especially if you are on a budget

it's way better than any of the free alternatives

and you can get good results with it when you know how to use it properly

just more time consuming that RC

[mild spear]

yeah, I've been using agi for quite a few years now and was never let down by it.

will have to give the competition another go though, there has been quite some development....

[small fern]

my biggest improvement on agi workflow (besides realizing how to shoot the images properly) has been the moment I realized you can filter the sparse point cloud points and then realign cameras with only remaining good data

dense point clouds tend to get a lot better with less noise

[mild spear]

yeah, there's a few things nobody really tells you about that makes or breaks a solve sometimes 😃

[calm bough]

anyone tried autodesk recap 360?

[mild spear]

quite a while ago, wasn't too impressed at the time

[ruby cradle]

Ok, rules are updated and the line is removed

[small fern]

@ruby cradle thanks for looking into it!

[uneven basin]

anyone know how to enable angular drive on PhysicsConstraint component?

ah nvm

[wind aspen]

hows everyone going?

[uneven basin]

giggling how stupid this game is gonna turn into

I should gif this

[wind aspen]

I really liking how my game is coming along

[austere glade]

i almost deleted all my code by accident last night lol

[wind aspen]

its definitely not making the under 100mb

[austere glade]

there is a category for that?

[wind aspen]

yeah

[small fern]

special category, yes

[austere glade]

interesting, i could probably make that

[small fern]

check the forum thread

link is on channel topic

[wind aspen]

i might try for best character

[austere glade]

will do thnx

[small fern]

I'm tempted to try char thing too

but I'm terrible artist

which is why I only do more technical stuff on art side

[wind aspen]

I am thinking of having a suprise ending

[austere glade]

I'm shooting for a minimum viable product to ship on to the play store - this competition is just motivation to do complete it/keep it lean, if it wins anything its just a bonus

[uneven basin]

http://i.imgur.com/aoWHybn.gifv

[small fern]

I already figured ending and starting point, still working on details what happens in the middle

[wind aspen]

awesome

[small fern]

story driven things are not the best things for game jams

so much to work on

[wind aspen]

I am keeping a blog of screenshots

[small fern]

lol

I hate windows 10

[austere glade]

yea.. even creating the ui elements to convey the story is a nice chunk of work

[small fern]

I couldn't start processing dense point cloud on agi as there's no opencl devices anymore on list

win10 update must have broken something

I haven't updated gpu drivers for ages

I'll try new drivers, maybe win10 anniversary update removed something they needed

so far I've only seen things that have gone worse, still waiting for the moment when I spot some improvement 😄

[austere glade]

.. the resource monitor is kinda nice

[small fern]

it looks the same?

what's the difference?

[austere glade]

i love how you can't change the clock by clicking on it anymore, thats where agenda management goes now - you have to right click now

compared to 7 i guess

[small fern]

oh you mean like that

yeah

I don't like the win10 clock either 😄

[austere glade]

anyway, back to ze jam, gl everyone

[small fern]

wonder if you can get the round thing back somehow

and yup, after installing nvidia drivers again, things work again

[sharp berry]

I love it when I google @pine fulcrum Guide and googles first result is Allar/ue4-style-guide

[small fern]

I love it when you just google Allar and see the first image search result which is this 😄 https://pp.vk.me/c9863/u113282151/a_d638707e.jpg

[sharp berry]

Hahahaha :D:D

[tepid axle]

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0960479808_10.jpg hmm this is what I get for googling me

I think someones trying to tell me Im a space cadet

[scenic venture]

I'm pretty handsome on my google results

I'll take it

[mint flint]

whoot I find myself when I search for myself 😃

[tepid axle]

thats actually rather impressive 😃

[mint flint]

Everyone having fun jamming I hope. Going to try and prototype out a quick test when I get home and see if I can participate 😃

[wind aspen]

having a blast 😃

[mint flint]

whoot. learning stuff I hope

if my prototype works out I get to learn multiplayer

[tepid light]

And I'm considering scrapping my current idea...

too much work

and I don't know if I should just go with a backup plan... that I don't have right now

[mint flint]

you've got like a week. thats a ton of time to do anything

[wind aspen]

woohoo! Testing packing success 😃

[mint flint]

at the worst find something that looks like fun to learn and just make a little game out of it 😃 learn something and get qualified for a prize!

[wind aspen]

its a lot of time if you have that much free time

[dusky python]

https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?124973-Epic-MegaJam-Submission-Thread&p=605655&viewfull=1#post605655

EXAMPLE SUBMISSION

[tepid axle]

merga jerms

[small fern]

that entry would have kick ass visuals

and blueprint spaghetti 😄

[sharp berry]

Is that example really necessary?

looks at previous months

Yes it is

[mint flint]

lol

[small fern]

I briefly looked at past entries

there were plenty "I did it all" with 3rd party content

[mint flint]

oh yeah

[small fern]

but

[mint flint]

plus half the time they dont even put the link anywhere visible

[small fern]

those people will still do it

no matter what you put into example

[sharp berry]

Thats (imho) a general problem. When I see for example the UE4 Facebook group, many people take/buy a bunch of assets, throw them in a level (procedural generated because why bother effort) and call it their masterwork

[small fern]

yeah

tempted to link that "I did this" comic strip here 😄

[glass fossil]

infiltrator demo got reused on an actual steam greenlight trailer 😆

[sharp berry]

Sometimes its funny, people working with high quality assets (i.e. taken from the Kite Demo), then encounter newbie problems....

Start at step 4 to be pushed back to step 3 only to discover that step 1 and 2 are damn handy to know 😄

[mint flint]

then they come here and ask for help

then reject the help because they don't understand

then spam the forums for the same help and yell at people for helping them the wrong way

[small fern]

well, sometimes they try to hire you too

[sharp berry]

Ye and post 10 different Hub questions with the exact same text 😛

[small fern]

with their kickstarter millions

[mint flint]

I watched a reddit thread where someone complained people were not helping him the right way and was yelling at them to help him the way he wanted

[small fern]

when KS goes live, they get 50-500$

but, I doubt there's any way to prevent people from trying to do that

some just don't have patience to do the ground work first

[mint flint]

let's just fix that to "some just don't have the patience to do work"

[sharp berry]

Something seems to be little off....

[small fern]

what is that?

[sharp berry]

A curved wall with 2 lamps on it 😛

but the left one seems to be a little rotated in the wrong position

close up it seems to be OK.... sigh

Lets flip a coin to decide to waste time on it or not

!flipcoin

We need a flipcoin bot command

[small fern]

oh, lamp

!gameidea

[glass fossil]

An adventure game where you salute squids in the year 3,000 but you're made of water.

[small fern]

huh

[sharp berry]

A game about Poseidon! Cool

[small fern]

that's actually half of my thing

[sharp berry]

https://imgflip.com/i/1bxtbp

[glass fossil]

lol

[rigid fog]

Ah wells

Always next year

[sharp berry]

Didnt you had almost a full team?

[rigid fog]

Had to drop out due to Hurricane

[sharp berry]

Ahh\

Damn you Matthew

[rigid fog]

Which made everyone else disband sadly

[glass fossil]

Why would nature conspire against man?

[sharp berry]

You can always make a solo project

[rigid fog]

If there is power after it hits sure.

Have to start taking pictures of the house

[glass fossil]

Is the "project name must not be longer than 20 characters" rule in the editor actuallly important? Seems like an odd limit.

[maiden loom]

Windows can only have paths of a certain length

if you go over that length limit, shit breaks real fast, hehe

[glass fossil]

Thats fair, better safe than sorry 😃

[maiden loom]

indeed

[grizzled zenith]

how's the jam going everyone? I gave up, didn't have any good ideas really

[echo depot]

If anyone want a 3D artist, programmer, music compose and sound designer, pm me

[maiden loom]

I already won it, all prizes

the rest of you can stop and give up, and enjoy the weekend instead

go outside and enjoy life 😉

[echo depot]

I have a ton of ideas

[maiden loom]

I am in no way trying to influence you out of not entering, of course

but honestly, you didn't want to do a game jam anyway

[echo depot]

Well for me to stop would imply that at first I assumed that I had any hope to win

Though this year was good, I won a google competition , almost won the NASA space apps competition

Looks like I am on a roll

[grizzled zenith]

Got the swag finally today btw 🙂

bit disappointed there were no sunglasses tho

I wouldn't call it epic swag box, it loses its meaning, more like ok swag box

[tepid light]

I got ue4 beanie hat and a paper model from the infiltrator demo.

plus some stickers and a pin

what did you get?

[grizzled zenith]

t-shirt, stickers, clip thing and a metal keyholder thing

now I'm jealous 😛

beanie hat would be great

same with the backbag

[wind aspen]

hows your games going?

[frail palm]

I'm back streaming again.

[mint flint]

I got the beanie it's awesome. then my kid took it from me 😦

[tepid light]

@frail palm link pls

[frail palm]

https://www.twitch.tv/jvthewanderer/

[uneven basin]

ehh, I started using physics simulated sphere collision as FABRIK ik, and it broke the physics constraint

unreal, wai u do tis

[tepid light]

Heh. I had to much trouble with physics in ue that I don't even try to make games based around it.

[uneven basin]

I like the challenge

I did physics based game in last megajam too

[tepid light]

I don't like to be stuck for 10 hours fighting one small thing that won't work.

[lament oar]

dont ever become a programmer then :p

[tepid light]

too late ;p

[uneven basin]

hm, linear motor is running out of juice at 45 degree angle

why

[lament oar]

I once spent 3 months figuring out a calculus solution to a task (had to learn it first). That was super testing of my abilities but the intense buzz I got when I did it.... worth every minute.

[uneven basin]

apparently the size of the physics object affects the outcome?

allthou I have mass override

what

aight, well now it works

only had to set the rebound force to 500k or something

save all, call it a day

crack a beer, video games

[sharp berry]

205 MB when packaged.... kill me now -.-

[sharp berry]

Managed to cut it by half, but Fatal Error when launching the game 😄

[tepid axle]

Im getting that too actually @sharp berry what error is it?

[sharp berry]

I cant screencapture it 😒

but the error says "Fatal Error"

Pretty conclusive

[tepid axle]

yeah my crashes with some cpp error

think its to do with shaders

[sharp berry]

I dont CPP

:p

[tepid axle]

just because you dont doesnt mean the core of the engine isnt written in it

[sharp berry]

undoing the changes isnt fixing my problem T_T

[grizzled zenith]

So here are the pro (some obvious) tips for reducing size once again: 1. compressed cooked packages from project settings 2. disable crash reporter from project settings 3. package on 32bit 4. after packaging, remove the engine>extras folder

[tepid axle]

http://puu.sh/rAWYY/dfc0703e51.jpg

[grizzled zenith]

those will get 260mb package to 80mb

[sharp berry]

Included error reporter... it just said: You do not have any debugging symbols required to display the callstack for this crash.

\o/

[tepid axle]

I dont get it cuz this is almost a blank project Im trying to run

[grizzled zenith]

try it on 100% blank

what engine version?

[tepid axle]

I will later, I gotta keep working at this point

it says in the error 4.13.1

[grizzled zenith]

I had my 4.12 not package an empty project 2 jams ago*, it was weird

couldn't figure out what was going on

but I moved to 4.13 anyways

now it works

[sharp berry]

I think I'll have to migrate my stuff to a new project and try to build it again -.-

Yeah, works again

wipes the sweat away

Bellow 70mb! 😄

[glass fossil]

score!

[coarse light]

it has begun

[tepid light]

Im under 80MB right now... and blueprints take no space so I will be good for size

[ashen meadow]

so much room for activities

[tepid light]

20 MB for cubes and materials that don't use textures is ok I think

[coarse light]

i wonder what everyone is doing

since when did size matter ?

[ashen meadow]

special jam category

for 100 mb uncompressed and under

[coarse light]

:/

thats one shitty rule

[ashen meadow]

not a rule, just a special category for extra prizes

[coarse light]

oh i see

[glass fossil]

@coarse light Epic set aside some extra prizes for people who do

1. Under 100mb final project size
2. Only 1 person on team
3. Coolest character design

[coarse light]

ah..

I see @small fern qualifying for that special prize already.. also you alice xD

[glass fossil]

Just some cool bonus prizes, not the main ones mind you.

Winners of these special category prizes will be rewarded with Unreal Engine stickers/buttons, an Unreal Engine Game Jam t-shirt per team member, a Fortnite Alpha access key per team member, and a Shadow Complex Remastered key for Steam per team member.

[tepid axle]

Im more in it for the personal challenge

[coarse light]

challenging ones' self

wew

[sharp berry]

Which actual size will be judged? Size or Size on Disk? (it has 0.1mb difference atm :P)

[tepid axle]

be water my friend 😃

[sharp berry]

Yea, no help at all Bruce, thanks

It feels like its almost near impossible to stay bellow 70mb

Ive to clean everything before each build, else it will exceed 70mb (by 600kb..)

[vagrant pine]

Yeahh fellows, size matters!!! 😉 https://docs.unrealengine.com/latest/INT/Engine/Performance/ReducingPackageSize/index.html

[sharp berry]

Removing plugins doesnt seem to help much

[glass fossil]

learned how to make skyboxes 😃

[sharp berry]

I still need audio, this is gonna be a pain 😄

Looks nice, sky for hell? 😛 @glass fossil

[tepid light]

http://www.superflashbros.net/as3sfxr/

[glass fossil]

not hell specifically but close enough 😃

[tepid light]

Hehe. Designing AI for an rts and letting bots fight each other is fun.

Especially with wacky, physics based, death animations 😃

[sharp berry]

Haha ye 😄

[rose gust]

Ah crap. Forgot yesterday was Megajam

[sharp berry]

So jump in now!

[rose gust]

So what teams are existing?

[urban summit]

Hi everyone

How yall doin

[rose gust]

Not bad.

[sharp berry]

Pretty good, starting scripting phase earlier then thought

@tepid light thx for that site 😛

[small fern]

@ScottMichaud#0793 @kilon#3275 was looking to team up earlier here

Wtf discord

Lets just break the tagging.. Again :D

[rose gust]

Kinda torn between doing another jam entry alone, or contributing to a larger team to get some more team development experience.

[small fern]

anyway, you've only missed one day, so nothing cruzial there 😃

[rose gust]

Yup yup

I mean last megajam I essentially did my entry in two-three days.

Couldn't get the original mechanic to work so I pivoted lol.

Well... work well.

[small fern]

I'm debating myself if I'd go all out on assets or still focus on under 100MB thing

left computer to process this while sleeping, but not much use for under 100 MB cat 😄

that's still point cloud, would need to mesh it

plus I couldn't make that many as detailed models for environment in this time..

[rose gust]

Huh. Looks like Sleepless Meatbags aren't registered this time.

Nice btw

[small fern]

thanks, will try to see if I get some lower poly out of it with zRemesher, I might be able to use some of it still if I don't use the texture as is

there's no way you could use 4k textures in 100MB cat 😄

[rose gust]

Ah... you're hoping for the 100MB category? :p

[small fern]

I'm doing it atm, if these models get in, I'll be definitely only person who did photogrammetry for that cat 😄

I'm well under 100MB now

[rose gust]

Yeah that seems likely lol

[small fern]

tempted to scan myself for the character 😄 that would be super awkward

just not sure how I could do it, like practically

and I don't want to cheat by letting someone else taking the pictures

as I'm going for solo entry

otherwise I could just list photographer as second member

[rose gust]

@sharp berry I was under the impression those modes were to limit the color palette so that average-sighted viewers can see, while likely not what the user will actually see, but the levels of detail that the user can see.

So, like, if you use a muddy green and a muddy red for team colors, with roughly the same intensity, turning on the red-green colorblind mode will likely make them look the same. If they do, then someone who's red-green colorblind cannot differentiate them, and you should reconsider using that palette.

It's a debug thing.

[foggy shard]

i feel like my game going to be supper minimalist if i keep this speed

[storm blade]

hello jammers

[rose gust]

Hey hey

[brittle lintel]

"All entries become the property of the Sponsor." Can you explain this in more detail?

[small fern]

@brittle lintel that part from the rules have been removed already

no issues anymore with that 😃

@brittle lintel https://forums.unrealengine.com/showthread.php?122362-Epic-MegaJam!-Oct-6-13th-2016&p=605642&viewfull=1#post605642

[brittle lintel]

Thanks @small fern

[small fern]

np 😃

[mint flint]

yeah Alexander tends to use older docs when doing the rules and some changes never quite get done when the jam goes live. I think it's normal for someone to find an error or 2 at this point 😃

[small fern]

oh, but that was a new rule I think?

it was only for sponsors rules

usually we get the regular jam rules which were pretty much unchanged

[mint flint]

yeah the epic rules are much larger

[small fern]

but stuff like that happens easily when there's lots of legal jargon that people put to cover their own backs, I doubt it meant to be worded like that intentionally

[mint flint]

but he pulls those from some other crud and misses stuff lol

yeah

legal template and all

it's funny when he misses dates

[small fern]

deadline is still not there?

I mean, it wasn't yesterday

forgot to ask about it 😄

there was no deadline on announcement thread nor countdown clock

only text that said there's week to do it

oh right, you didn't even mean that now

but yeah, deadline is missing 😄

it has this text: "submit before the deadline"

[mint flint]

heh

yeah sometimes I feel for him and chance. there is so much work they do for the community

[small fern]

I'd assume the deadline is same as last year

so it's till end of next stream

it'll be full week at that point

[mint flint]

yeah it says that in the page itself

[small fern]

where?

because, I didn't spot it

this is everything I find on that post about how long we have:

In Unreal Engine game jam tradition, we'll be kicking this one off and announcing the theme on the livestream on October 6 and giving participants an entire week to create and submit an awesome game built in the engine.

[mint flint]

In Unreal Engine game jam tradition, we'll be kicking this one off and announcing the theme on the livestream on October 6 and giving participants an entire week to create and submit an awesome game built in the engine.
Submit the following to the SUBMISSION thread before the end of the October 13 livestream and include the following info:

its under the "Submission Thread" link in the main post

[small fern]

ah

I missed that part

heh, it's bolded

but in orange

so it actually works against me noticing it 😄

[mint flint]

ah

[small fern]

well, all good then

[mint flint]

😃

I'm not even jamming. Just gonna knock out like 40 videos instead over the week 😃

if I can stop playing games that is lol

[small fern]

@tepid light that chiptone looks nice, from the same site 😃

http://sfbgames.com/chiptone/

also, for sfxr ports, there's also this

http://www.bfxr.net/

[tepid light]

nice

thx

[mint flint]

I was playing with that last night

[small fern]

not sure how that differs from that other one

I'd guess they are just ported by different people

I have more pro synth stuff on VSTs but would be nicer to use free stuff in game jam spirit

[mint flint]

bfxr is the one I normally use but that chiptune is fun

[small fern]

although, there's no way I could make models in blender etc 😄

@mint flint you jamming now? 😃

[rigid fog]

Bxfr is the shit

For some quick custom sounds

[mint flint]

@small fern I'm skipping this one. I want to get the Settings nodes done so going to rock out on that instead

[small fern]

I dunno, this chiptone is pretty dope, just kept hitting random and mutate, got this

http://sfbgames.com/chiptone/?s=eNpjYJKas5BJgFF19tvfTF8YGOobGBjEvopXFSQzMNf_9zzDYBL3ZzpIUOXrby8QnTWPcTaILnnDWAqieRo5loJokWlPn4Fo_je_tUE0A0NLVDDHYiEmRqPbr4NAImqZzCtANHNx9vdAEMP4HPNlEM2kwfhyFYih--rvRBAtN4vNFUTLH_1qDaK1v_7QA9GG2_6cBtH1_0FQ_n_kDAYAQ-9GNw..

(just press play)

planning to do more sci-fi setting

@mint flint oh ok, although it's not like Allar and Epic wouldn't have enough games to play with..

259 entries signed up so far

[mint flint]

yeah I saw that. I might still do it if I can i've got a crazy idea I want to try out loll

[glass fossil]

Okay, the scene needs a spaceship. Time to open up Blender and see how 3D modeling works.

http://i.giphy.com/26ufagOQ6pDnChZbG.gif

[wind aspen]

@small fern How's your game going?

[small fern]

@glass fossil oh, you're going sci-fi too

[rose gust]

Shouldn't be too bad.

[small fern]

I'm just about to start my spaceship physics 😄

[glass fossil]

@small fern yep! SciFi horror 😃

[rose gust]

If you don't care, subdivide and extrude a cube a bunch. :p

[wind aspen]

Cool

[small fern]

also, will have more than one planet

@wind aspen mostly planning and got core framework done

will move into gameplay elements now

I kinda wasted time yesterday by watching some sci-fi movies for inspiration 😄

just by skipping through but still

[glass fossil]

distractions distractions 😆

[small fern]

yeah, just looking for things to make in art direction before I start blocking out levels

never ever done any sci-fi game before

[wind aspen]

I got my core gameplay going. Im working on how to improve player experience

[glass fossil]

so fast 😮

[upbeat wren]

@small fern Finally resolved my issues, we are going with another design and having to make up time

[small fern]

cool 😃

[glass fossil]

Eyes are going buggy, probably time to take a break ><

[tepid light]

With a heavy heart I made a decision: I won't be able to execute my good idea in a satisfying manner, so I have to fall back to my easier, alternate version.

Better to properly execute an average idea than to waste a good one.

[tepid light]

The more I think about it, the more I like my second idea.. Won't get as much points for the theme, but gameplay might be better.

[safe halo]

Hooray for lowered expectations!

[tepid light]

😃

[safe halo]

Omg bfxr looks really useful for sounds, thanks for the tip! It'll beat my last game where I recorded my voice making sound effects...although that was pretty funny

[wind aspen]

Running on caffeine 😵

[silver swan]

yeah ive had about 3 cups from morning to lunch while jamming really feeling the caffeine

[tepid axle]

or as I like to call it, Jam Juice

[glass fossil]

Okay after a short nap, a handful of ibprofen, and one vicodin, the brain has returned to normal. Time to resume jamming 😃

[tepid axle]

lol careful they'll do you for illegal jam substances

[small fern]

I also had to return back to my framework stuff

heh

I would have literally saved 1.5 days if I had a template for this thing 😄

[tepid axle]

but if you knew what you were making why bother jamming 😃

[small fern]

but yeah, things working again

also, I don't do things like these in my regular projects

I also like how every single thing I've done so far have needed specific workarounds 😄

that includes UMG, character movement, level streaming and one additional component

[cosmic summit]

Hello, i'm looking to fill some roles for our team, anyone still looking for one?

[frosty raptor]

What roles?

[tepid axle]

master of the universe

[scenic venture]

Sold!

[cosmic summit]

^

a blueprint superstar

a matinee producer

[small fern]

no sequencer?

matinee is so 2015

[cosmic summit]

😄

i do recall hearing sequencer at some point, u right

[tepid axle]

is the Michael Jackson of Blueprinters

I love to molest me some nodes 😮

[cosmic summit]

and one more 3d artist/level designer

[tepid axle]

you may even want to see if other people might want you to join their team

[sharp berry]

discovered Event Tracks in UMG Animations :3

[tepid axle]

be sure to mark it on your facebook event list 😛

[frosty raptor]

im sitting this jam out but heres one for you fine folks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFRbZJXjWIA

[tepid axle]

I dont mind old Bobby boy but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXvcCIB_Yks is more my style for working 😃

[cosmic summit]

We have 3 in our team, we're open to merging.

We're shooting for 5 mins of linear vr game-play. Concept is a WIP: sci-fi space thriller, enemy zerg AI and sound mix, automated defense matrix (faked), holographic player-controlled targeting system, realistic 1:1 room-scale, and command bridge with specular view. After an alien swarm attack, reclaim command of your ship, and settle the score using your ship and crew to claim your advantage.

I'll leave the surprise ending tho.

Looking for 2 more that's interested in working on this project for the jam.

[small fern]

huh

so much sci-fi 😄

I picked the wrong setting definitely

[trail vigil]

Hello Jammers.

How is everyone?

[cosmic summit]

yea, sci-fi is great

[proven badge]

faak building ships is hard

[glass fossil]

learning blender to add custom art for once, so many hot keys to remember o.o

[velvet echo]

that's all i have done on my submission so far

[small fern]

@proven badge don't tell you are doing sci-fi too? 😄

[proven badge]

nope

fantasy

[small fern]

ah, like boat ship

not space ship

[proven badge]

aye

its a nightmare

espececially when making it modular

[rigid fog]

Lol

But I bet it will come out amazing @proven badge

Why do we still use electric power?

[small fern]

I need to make modular spaceship too 😄

but that should be easier

[proven badge]

no electricity at your place?

[rigid fog]

Been gone for hours now

HurricaneMatthewRuinedMyPlans

I think I can get 5 hours out of my new laptop

But that isnt going to make a game ;)

[proven badge]

use the time, take a nap

[rigid fog]

Can't

The brunt of the Hurricane is passing now

Have to wait it out, make sure no trees fall, flooding occurs before I go to bed.

[rose gust]

You're safe, though, Victor?

[proven badge]

finally done disecting dis crap

tadaaaaa

[small fern]

looking good

[proven badge]

assembled

red slots will be hit boxes

[small fern]

"The Asset xxxx. failed to save."

sigh 😄

wiped intermed + saved, all good again 😄

oh wow

maybe I should get some sleep

spent 15 minutes figuring out why directional light gave odd light cast over unlit material

then spotted that I still had Atmospheric Fog on level..

the reason I didn't spot it first was that I just removed it, but I forgot I got the save issue and that change didn't save either

[rose gust]

It's a bit of a shame that both Epic MegaJams were over Canadian Thanksgiving.

[ashen meadow]

will probably be a shame next year too 😄

[rose gust]

Heh yeah.

[ashen meadow]

anyone give up yet?

or still plugging along?

[velvet echo]

bit early to give up isn't it?

[ashen meadow]

i dunno

i gave up pretty early last year

ha ha

[velvet echo]

it goes for a week

[ashen meadow]

got too caught up in the "mega" part

mega ideas that i didn't have a chance at

[velvet echo]

mega is length of the jam, not the idea you have to implement 😄

[ashen meadow]

hey more time bigger idea right

ha ha

that was my thought process

[velvet echo]

start small then

[ashen meadow]

yeah im still plugging along

[velvet echo]

i'm going mega... have done 3d modelling and rigging in blender for the first time

[ashen meadow]

ha ha

[velvet echo]

now need to work out how to do animations

[ashen meadow]

how does one just learn blender in a day

you people are amazing

[velvet echo]

so i can claim that i didn't use any external assets

[ashen meadow]

think @glass fossil said she was doing the same thing

[velvet echo]

i've played with blender before, just now i have to put what i have learnt to use

[glass fossil]

yeah I'm just about done uv painting

[ashen meadow]

ha ha

wtf

amazing

[glass fossil]

made a space ship, gave it some glowy bits

[velvet echo]

UV painting I have substannce painter 2 to do that

i posted pic of my character model with rig above slapunas ship model

[glass fossil]

yeah substaince painter would be nice, but don't want to try to learn more than just blender tonight 😆

[velvet echo]

you've got time right 😄

[wind aspen]

@glass fossil How's yours coming along?

[glass fossil]

pretty good so far, looking at nasa space shuttles now for painting inspiration

[wind aspen]

Thats cool

[glass fossil]

getting this done today I'll have the ship, two stars, two sky boxes, and and one planet. enough to move on to building the playable area

[wind aspen]

Sounds awesome

[glass fossil]

programmer art ftw 😄

still blender is proving to be quite fun, so its been worth learning

[wind aspen]

I haven't used blender much. 3ds Max has been go to for modelling

Thinking of sharing screenshots of my progress in the next couple of days

[glass fossil]

3DS Max and Maya are probably leagues better 😃

[small fern]

modo ftw

been tweaking planet mat, something tells me that fresnel just doesn't cut it for this effect 😄

will probably do that properly later on

I have some ideas on that though

[tepid axle]

https://puu.sh/rABgX/891685ce6b.jpg heres my character, Im having trouble animating it

[uneven basin]

wat

[tepid axle]

https://puu.sh/qn5Nq/8ccbcc6ae3.jpg

[uneven basin]

Im working on character too

http://pasteboard.co/coQoCLrb5.png

[cosmic summit]

so what this really mean? 'The game must not be an obvious extension of one of Epic Games’ official Unreal Engine tutorials.'

does that mean we can't use any of their tutorials? or just can't submit something that took as much time as the tutorial to make

[uneven basin]

you can, but it can't be "reskinned" version of their templates

as in submitting tappy chicken with new sprites would be disqualified based on that rule

[uneven basin]

I assume using mixamo animations was ok in the rules?

[topaz scroll]

@uneven basin yes you just have to tell it when you submit

[uneven basin]

I mean, they have been going over some renovation after being acquired by adobe, so I was wondering the legal point

[velvet echo]

i'm having trouble working out blender to ue4 rigging. maybe it wasn't a good idea trying this for the first time in a game jam

[small fern]

@uneven basin as far as I know, they are still bound to same license as were after merger started. You could check their FAQ for quick answer. Link to it used to be under Pricing menu.

[quiet thistle]

woo, i think this ones gonna be good when its finished 😃

Its something that a lot of people have been wanting for VR, but no ones really quite done it yet... hopefully it turns out fun

[dire heart]

Wish i had VR so i could test it out @quiet thistle

[quiet thistle]

basically going for G gundam style mech controls

its cooler than it looks hah

hard to really convey the scale and feeling of your arms directly causing the mechs arms to move

[uneven basin]

ehh

how do I unpause a game when nothing is ticking?

I tried setting controller to be tickable during pause but it's not taking input

oh nvm, forgot you have to specify input execution during pause individually

[small fern]

yeah, you can do that on pause menu too

[uneven basin]

hmm, now I just need to figure how to pass instructions to AI during pause

[proven badge]

damn really hope ships are counted as characters ;D

[tepid axle]

lol

just paint a smiley face on the sails

[proven badge]

lets hope pirate skull will suffice

[tepid axle]

you will win the rum prize

[small fern]

@proven badge put painted eyes to it

[tepid axle]

googley eyes

[small fern]

def a char then

[velvet echo]

ok, can't get rigging from blender to ue4 to work properly... i give up on that

[small fern]

well, you can always just use mixamos autorigger instead

[proven badge]

what's the error you're getting?

[tepid axle]

http://imgur.com/uOgAp1Y

[small fern]

unreal accepts mixamo skeleton, although if you want to use ue4 animations, you need to retarget which will not fit 1:1

or just try to import mixamo rigged char with ue4 skeleton

[tepid axle]

hehe

[small fern]

reminds me of the "fixed" content example character I assembled, with paragon eyes, hair and new cloth

totally next gen

[proven badge]

I like him. I shall name him Mr Spooks

[velvet echo]

i think i will need to make my animations in blender too to get the rigging to work properly

when i tried to retarget, the mesh looks like an exploded mess

[small fern]

yeah

that's because ue4 used different axis for up

all goes wonky with default setups

tbh, I wish they didn't have that at all

[scenic venture]

Rigging is the most god-awful invention in the world. Just looking at it wrong can cause the entire thing to explode

[small fern]

it messes up with all kinds of things

[velvet echo]

what should i set the up and forward to then?

[small fern]

basically even if you get your char aligned right into unreal, chances are that your animation and/or rig is still aligned wrong way

no idea tbh

I don't even use blender

nor know how that would work on other apps

you could try to find if someone has ported ue4 skeleton to blender in past

I know the blue guy used to be somewhere

[scenic venture]

You can change the import rotation in UE4

[small fern]

but not sure if anyone has gotten the new skeleton there as template

[scenic venture]

not sure if that'd fix anything for retargetting

[small fern]

yeah, but issue is not the char itself

it's the animations and/or rig

@velvet echo I'd try #animation and see if there are users who use blender with ue4 skeleton there

or if that's your end goal that is

or google around the web for answers

I'd be genuinely surprized if you were the first one trying to figure that out

[scenic venture]

There are so many things that can break a rig.

Heck, just orienting the joints using the incorrect fashion can destroy a rig. Having any non-zeroed out rotation values on export.

Constraints

import settings...export settings...

[tepid axle]

https://giphy.com/gifs/4P0kMdFJcGQM0

every time I write fro each

[topaz scroll]

Just finished all my procedural audio tool, yei!!

[hollow summit]

@topaz scroll Nice!

[coarse light]

meh.. this channel is underwhelming.. seems like everyone is busy with the jam spreading shiz on their bread

[hollow summit]

I should be busy with the jam. Instead I'm cooking bacon.

[topaz scroll]

Mhh bacon!

[frail palm]

Hey all.

[glass fossil]

morning~

[fallow lion]

o/

[foggy shard]

i almost not even started

looks like i am not plan to win anything 😃

[uneven basin]

folks are waking up, I'm here wrapping up >_>

[small fern]

heh, gotta love programmer art

just blocking out the inner parts so player can walk around the thing

don't want to model parts just to find out player doesn't even fit in

although, for jam game, would probably be wiser to just let the player possess the ship upon entry and not care about player actually climbing to the cockpit...

I always find more pointless things to waste devtime on

[frail palm]

I'm blocking out as well.

Now I'm Just building model for the structure.

[tepid light]

I'm tempted to post some gifs of my game.. But why spoil all the fun so early? 😃

[uneven basin]

Ill start posting tomorrow

once I get everything together

[tepid light]

Yea, I need to add some graphics first

[uneven basin]

did character model today

or, finished it

[frail palm]

Streaming again https://www.twitch.tv/jvthewanderer/

[small fern]

oh wow

I just exported my blocked out ship into modo

scene still had spotlights on it

those spotlights worked inside modo too as is 😄

totally didn't expect that

[tepid light]

And what is your package size with those fancy graphics?

[uneven basin]

over 900

[small fern]

lol

I just test packaged

had a brief wtf moment there as my packaged game was well over 200 MB

I'm using the glass material from epics and when I migrated it to this project, it brought in 8K x 4K HDRI image

resource size in editor for that thing alone is 260 MB

[brittle lintel]

Dang

For glass?

[small fern]

yeah, I can remove it

[brittle lintel]

Pffft

[small fern]

just didn't realize it was there

not really focusing on slimming this down at this time as there isn't barely any materials in yet

[brittle lintel]

My test project is a mess of like 30 gb worth of experiments it's great

Wait theres an under 200mb category for this jam?

[small fern]

not that I'm aware of

[brittle lintel]

Or was that a joke

[small fern]

I'm targeting still below 100mb

[glass fossil]

http://i.giphy.com/3oz8xXlseYoatGIEKs.gif

[small fern]

but my test pacakging went well over 200MB

that's all

@glass fossil you're so ahead of me

I still havent modeled the ship

[glass fossil]

wasted so much time trying to create materials in blender

when they can't even be exported cleanly to unreal