lounge

[dark sequoia]

the main reason being that the world is all screwed up anyway, lol. kinda like the Fallout games actually

in fact it sorta reminds me of how a fantasy world would be if it were post-apocalyptic

since thats pretty much what the setting is, at least to an extent

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/snickers-snicker-candy-chocolate-chocolate-bar-gif-5270232

[unreal ether]

thats exactly why im planning on making my npcs in towns and stuff unkillable, as my story requires a good character sort of thing

[dark sequoia]

also from what I've read, George R. R. Martin wrote the initial lore and background history and then FromSoftware took what he gave and they "destroyed" that world with tons of wars and chaos... and then wrote their own part of the story that picks up afterward, which is then when the game takes place. its a pretty cool approach tbh

[dark sequoia]

ah I see, yeah thats often the safest approach ye

[quasi mantle]

I guess he wrote the lore in MS-DOS machine

[dark sequoia]

i dont get it D:

[quasi mantle]

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27407502.amp

[dark sequoia]

oh I see, i had forgotten about that haha

[quasi mantle]

Also Past Future storyline is being written in an ||emulated|| Amiga

[dark sequoia]

that being said, theres programs where you can disable those features but oh well heh

[quasi mantle]

Because why not

[unreal ether]

tbf i would love clacking away on an old dos machine and keeb

[quasi mantle]

Though I wish I could write story in a real PAL Amiga 1200 :(

[unreal ether]

writing my story

[dark sequoia]

ok boomer

[quasi mantle]

Considering Indonesia also has the same electricity specs with Europe, 230 V 50 Hz

[unreal ether]

bruh i only recently graduated from legal child

smh

[dark sequoia]

lol

[quasi mantle]

I'm sure a PAL Amiga machine would run flawlessly in here

[dark sequoia]

i stick with emulators

[unreal ether]

i just like old hardware

and i like mech keyboards

and the old ones feeel nice

[dark sequoia]

although it would be nice if i had my old gaming systems

but o well

[quasi mantle]

Sure, there's WinUAE to emulate Amiga hardware, but I'd love to get the real deal

[dark sequoia]

I grew up during the NES and SNES generation

[unreal ether]

i was born in the ps2 gen

[quasi mantle]

Though I prefer Amiga because of European demoscene bias lmao

[unreal ether]

but grew up in 360/ps3

i think i was about 3 when the ps3 came out

[dark sequoia]

ah

[unreal ether]

ye i was

[dark sequoia]

yeah thats about me when the SNES came out

[quasi mantle]

I was 2 when PS2 came out (at least in NA and JP)

[dark sequoia]

although for me, I was 1 when SNES came out give or take (in the US) but yeah

[lucid walrus]

Me right now...

[quasi mantle]

I think we share models with the European one, considering we also use PAL here

[lucid walrus]

Or this may be more accurate...

[dark sequoia]

lol

[quasi mantle]

checks date Sir, can't you wait for 6 more months?

[dark sequoia]

but yeah I value many varied genres and eras of games, which sometimes im thankful for cause it means im less picky with types of games I can enjoy heh

[quasi mantle]

I remember how I sucked playing scuffed pirated copy of GH2 on PS2 with gamepad

Also bad memories of terribly modded Indonesian GTA SA copies

[pearl elk]

thats what I looked like before covid

[quasi mantle]

https://youtu.be/KPFnsEfC8dY

[oblique cloak]

i remember some kind of demolition derby game for ps2

[dark sequoia]

oh are you a Vinesauce fan too? :3

actually i recall you mentioning that before, at least for Joel

[quasi mantle]

Yes, mainly windows destruction and corruption stockpile

[unreal ether]

but thats not to say i grew up with a silver ps3 in my mouth, my consoles were all my dad's old ones, i didnt get a ps3 until i was like 10

[dark sequoia]

I also like his alternate persona, named Vinny

lol jk

[unreal ether]

my consoles growing up were ps1 and ps2

hence my major fondness for tomb raider 2

[quasi mantle]

Finnish/Norwegian Vinesauce personnel would make more sense for this

[quasi mantle]

But yeah, I do mention about it one time

[dark sequoia]

Jerma is another I watch quite alot, who I actually discovered thanks to Vinny funny enough

[quasi mantle]

I never get into Jerma tbh

[dark sequoia]

yeah he is very unique thats for sure

but always makes me laugh, at least for me haha

[quasi mantle]

Frankly I rarely go to twitch

[dark sequoia]

ah I see

[quasi mantle]

Mainly because Twitch is a bitch to load with my internet connection

[dark sequoia]

tbh, most streamers I dont care for at all

the only ones I watch are the ones who differ from all that

which is pretty much Vinesauce and Jerma, and etc

sorry to hear about the connection stuff though, ive had my fair share of such problems in the past so i know how that is

[unreal ether]

my internet isnt even that bad and twitch still hates it lol

its a good job i dont like livestreams anyway

[dark sequoia]

thankfully the streamers I watch have youtube accounts with their full streams on there

in case twitch acts stupid (or old vods deleted)

most of the time i watch stuff afterward, rather than live, anyway

since im always busy during a stream

also nice being able to pause when I need to, heh

[oblique cloak]

I miss being a streamer on mixer.

[quasi mantle]

What about being a streamer on Blender?

Didn't expect the pedal to be the most difficult to model lol

[oblique cloak]

i had like 25k followers, average viewership was around 70 people per stream

you always make that joke lol

this is me, no thanks.

https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/bass-drum-pedal-3d-model/643696

i buy. lol

not create

[barren crown]

[oblique cloak]

DAMN IT I HIT A MINE

6 bombs really? that's tough....

[quasi mantle]

Well, I had to make it to be provided for free, so yeah

I can't use paid assets

[oblique cloak]

i bought this badboy yesterday just rigged it time to animate it...

[oblique cloak]

hey man thats great work for free

cheers to you!

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, I have to put it as sample scene (also I can make sure it won't break in UE4)

[ivory lodge]

Does anyone else lose interest in games when you are deep into making one?

[quasi mantle]

Sometimes, yeah
Usually I divert my attention into making machinima lol

[ivory lodge]

@quasi mantle sometimes I'll get into my 3D modeling. And animation. It's a nice break from code.

[oblique cloak]

take a day off, play a game, rage, then go back to game dev. infinite loop detected.

[ivory lodge]

@oblique cloak and better yet, we go back thinking we can make a better game then whoever made let's say cyberpunk?

[oblique cloak]

this is why i started rigging and animating instead of using store bought assets, i needed something else to put my mind on

cyberpunk is about a 100million dollar game to dev.

[ivory lodge]

Blender is free and only takes a lifetime to learn!

[quasi mantle]

Yes, considering I also have a draft for a cyberpunk (J)RPG story that aims to get right what CP2077 fails spectacularly

[oblique cloak]

I played apex for the first time last night in like 2 years.

holy smokes did i get smacked by these cracked little kids.

[ivory lodge]

I don't like online games. When I am relaxing the last thing I want to do is deal with people.

[oblique cloak]

If you are bored with deving, try moding some skyrim for fun

[quasi mantle]

Though I used to relax with FF14 (at least before corona screws up my income beyond repair)

[oblique cloak]

i got a whole tb save and files waiting to be played LOL

[ivory lodge]

Oh I'm having a great time deving. I'll just go back and play Ninja Gaiden black again.

[quasi mantle]

FF14 can be pretty relaxing most of the time

[oblique cloak]

other games can help the inspiration process 😉

[ivory lodge]

They made a final fantasy after 7!

[oblique cloak]

ugh i really got to fix this? >_< dang it...

[ivory lodge]

Why? It was the Final Fantasy!

[oblique cloak]

i think i might kick back and play super mario today

its been a while

wow i am about to refund this model. so many holes i dont feel like fixing

[tulip orbit]

looks fine to me 😉

[quasi mantle]

That could be dangerous if you shoot it

[oblique cloak]

bro there is no interior lol

[tulip orbit]

just use it outside 😄

[oblique cloak]

for 35 dollars i would expect more out of this

[tulip orbit]

whats it supposed to be?

[oblique cloak]

P99

https://waltherarms.com/p99/

[ivory lodge]

Back to work. Have fun.

[lapis peak]

can anyone say the differences between UE 4.22 and 4.27 ?

[oblique cloak]

you too bud 🙂

[tulip orbit]

approximately 0.05

[lapis peak]

hmm

[oblique cloak]

no because there is like 1,000 of them.

[lapis peak]

oh

so actually

i bought a udemy course long ago

[oblique cloak]

just look up whats new in unreal, from 4.22 to 4.27

[lapis peak]

it had game developing with 4.22

[oblique cloak]

that is going to be dated for blueprinting

and c++

[lapis peak]

now im having 4.27

[lapis peak]

dated means like still functioning sort of ?

[cursive crypt]

Go read their Change Log

[lapis peak]

ohke

[quasi mantle]

udemy course

[oblique cloak]

meaning you will still be able to follow the course. BUT a lot of things will be named differently or used differently.

[lapis peak]

yus

[lapis peak]

ohh

[quasi mantle]

I'd expect you're in for a hell of a ride.

[lapis peak]

ok

sed

my laptop doesnt want UE 5 to run

so im planning to work with UE 4.27 for mow

now*

[quasi mantle]

Take this instead
https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/onlinelearning-courses

[cursive crypt]

It is great version.

4.27

[quasi mantle]

No shame on sticking with 4.27 😎

[lapis peak]

Thonxe man

[lapis peak]

ok

[oblique cloak]

some of these models are amazing 😦 but i cant see myself spending over 60 for a single weapon ugh......

[quasi mantle]

I mean, FWIW 5.0 is still too rough on the edge for my liking. I'd rather wait 4 or 5 versions when things are more settled for serious project

[quasi mantle]

Are Sketchfab weapons that expensive? IIRC they're around $30 range

[lapis peak]

everything is like forum

[oblique cloak]

i was on turbo squid

[lapis peak]

no video course sed

[quasi mantle]

Oh yeah, turbo squid is a mess

[quasi mantle]

The video courses are consolidated there

or maybe https://learn.unrealengine.com if this thing still works

[oblique cloak]

I spent so much on unreal asset store only to realize, every where else is better lol

[quasi mantle]

Personally I'd consider 4.26 to be the swansong version for UE4
If it weren't for free Oodle/Bink not retroactive to 4.26, I would've stay in that version

[oblique cloak]

bink is still a thing?

[quasi mantle]

Bink 2, yes.

[oblique cloak]

i remember modding bf1942 intro with bink and smacker

[quasi mantle]

That's Bink 1, which is pretty limited for today's standards.

Bink 2 conversion is included in UE4.27

(and not even retroactive to 4.26 🥲 )

[oblique cloak]

good for them

they never sold out 😮

[quasi mantle]

Trying to backport Oodle to 4.26 was hell. Turns out the modification goes way deeper than just plugins. If only it were that easy...

[deep copper]

"it's dangerous out there"
"take this with you"
hands https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/onlinelearning-courses

[fringe plaza]

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/learn-to-create-games-in-allnew-unreal-engine-5-software?partner=gamefromscratch

I don't know where to put this but this is insane

[daring summit]

https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.26/en-US/AnimatingObjects/Sequencer/HowTo/TracksCameraCut/

[verbal junco]

from the people that have brought you NO GAMES, learn how to MAKE GAMES

[fringe plaza]

Yeah and I've never made a car but I can tell you how a car works

[verbal junco]

can you make a car though?

[fringe plaza]

I'm sure I could if I really put the time and effort in

It's 25 dollars I think for the hours of learning it's worth but hey up to you

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/um-eh-ehh-yikes-what-gif-15833903

[verbal junco]

I wouldn't recommend any tutorials for making games, let alone paid ones

but that's just me

[cursive crypt]

Internet is full of ue courses

[oblique cloak]

i love my youtube courses.

[fringe plaza]

Then how do you expect to learn if not from tutorals?? Purely reading the docs?

[oblique cloak]

my guy man....

[cursive crypt]

After seeing the same basic level course for 50th time it gets boring.

[verbal junco]

here's how I learned things: studying programming with a side of vector math, apply directly to the product you're making

if it's just programming you're after

if it's design you have a much taller order

[cursive crypt]

Other option to make game is to pay somebody, don't need to watch courses.

[verbal junco]

pay for the tuts, then pay someone to watch the tuts

brilliant

[cursive crypt]

Pay someone to make tuts

[verbal junco]

I generally dislike stuff like this because there is an implication that there is some "magic" unknown quantity that you can use to shortcut learning things. that's not the case, and certainly not for games. experience is still praised for games because it's the number one way of verifying if someone understands what's going on in a game production environment

thinking that a tutorial will be able to teach you any of that, or indeed be better than any ordinary programming course at a vetted uni, is setting yourself up for fail

I only mention uni because it's a structured way of learning things, not the laisse faire of tutorial land. and to be honest, my biggest takeaway from uni was a change in mentality. programming requires you to think differently about things, and I bet those tutorials don't even hint at doing that

[cursive crypt]

Maybe you got lucky with Uni.

[verbal junco]

I'm not saying you need uni

I'm sure you can get this without uni

[deep copper]

there needs to be a balance

watch tuts, and put to practice, if possible get feedback on how to do it better

[cursive crypt]

The general good thing about uni is learning discipline.

That sounds as the good Uni.

[verbal junco]

absolutely, I think it definitely helps. but people have learned things without uni too. I'm not here to say that uni is the be all end all. there are many roads to the same goal. I'm just saying tutorials (especially these kinds of tutorials), aren't a road like that

[cursive crypt]

Well, why df you are praising it then?

[verbal junco]

uni is a catalyst for the process of learning

[cursive crypt]

Aye, but such good unis are too rare to be practical.

[verbal junco]

that's nonsense

I get that not every uni is good

but to say that no uni is good is silly

[deep copper]

uni isn't all that different from paid courses in most places

[cursive crypt]

I said "rare", read.

[deep copper]

i don't expect gaming unis to be great

[verbal junco]

what I'm saying is that it's not rare

[cursive crypt]

I literally don't know one (CS) in my country deserving it.

[verbal junco]

I think finding a bad uni is rare

exceptional ones being rare

perhaps

but in the grand tier list of things

[deep copper]

nothing can teach you unless you put in effort

[verbal junco]

any university will probably give you a structure for learning whatever it is that you study

[cursive crypt]

Ideally, yea. On theory it is nice.

[verbal junco]

anyway my uni wasn't great by any stretch, and yet I still "made it"

well if you already had the structure then you were already 90% of the way there 😂

[deep copper]

exactly, it's effort you put in, not a uni or anything

infact, my experience made it difficult for me because i had to read trashy pdfs of their

[verbal junco]

https://www.4icu.org/top-universities-europe/ just looking at this list my uni wasn't even in the top 200

not sure why anyone is triggered

except for weeb haters

I think tank's pfp is more kawaii

[pearl elk]

uwu ok

gifs can depending on how you pronounce it

[tulip orbit]

https://imgur.com/gallery/5qQjNca

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-debatable-2schools-of-thought-gif-7901433

ok I got a question: if you had a job that allowed you to live anywhere in the world

where would you live?

but it's cold in canadadia

I'm considering going somewhere for the winter months since my job is now fully remote

[oblique cloak]

Which pistol seems cooler. fn 509 or Springfield xd mod 2

[verbal junco]

-14 is about -34 degrees too cold for me 😂

[quasi mantle]

Hands down

||Beretta 92||

[oblique cloak]

LOL

[verbal junco]

I'm in the UK

we barely get sub zero temps

[quasi mantle]

Sorry, but Beretta 92 is still the sexiest handgun in my book

[verbal junco]

yeah I mean I'm not into the whole "snow in may" deal

[oblique cloak]

the problem with this, the beretta is its a accurate gun irl, i cant do this as a freebe gun at the start of a match like cs

[verbal junco]

in fact I prefer a cozy 18 degree winter

enough that you can still go outside with a sweatshirt on

[quasi mantle]

Freebie starting? Then Glock.
Eeewww

Blocky son of a gun

[oblique cloak]

i live in upstate ny, people wear sandals till we hit like 3 inches....

[verbal junco]

that's what I'm thinking

even japan would be relatively cheap

and since it would only be for a couple of months, no need for permanent residence or even a visa beyond tourist

[fringe plaza]

You leave my beautiful boy alone

[quasi mantle]

I have no reason to go near that blocky son of a gun anyway.

[fringe plaza]

It has curves where it counts

[tulip orbit]

It snowed here last night. And is cold

[verbal junco]

aren't you remote as well?

😢

[quasi mantle]

It can't get curvier and practical as this
kiss

[verbal junco]

4 monitors

I mean this is where mini itx comes in handy

[fringe plaza]

This thing is antique and it shows

[verbal junco]

just get 1 big one

as in a big drive

or two

I got like 2tb of storage between 3 drives

1 ssd, 2 m.2

[fringe plaza]

Trusting all your data to one drive is awful

[verbal junco]

the important data is backed up anyway

so no biggie

[quasi mantle]

Whatever you say
I love retro things

[verbal junco]

and even so I haven't had a drive failure for years

the only drive failure I ever had was a first gen ssd back before people understood what ssds should be doing

https://tenor.com/view/gura-gawr-gura-sad-sad-face-shark-gif-21064606

[fringe plaza]

Consumer drives are only stable for like 5 years

I think it's 5 it may be 3

[verbal junco]

one of my drives I literally had for 10+ years without ever having to exchange it 😂

I did exchange it eventually but that was because I switched it for a better drive

not because it died

you could argue that there is some degree of planned obsolescence, but I haven't personally experienced that

plus with the new monitoring systems from e.g. samsung you'll know in advance

[ocean parcel]

hi fellows

doesn't world just make your blood boil....

jk xD

i got banned from a discord server yesterday. 😭 😭 😭 😭 it'd been raided tbf so idc. xD

[oblique cloak]

I wonder what the government will think of my gun research history...

i have been looking up different types of pistols for the last 3 hours lol

[quasi mantle]

Raided by Rider advertisers? 🙀

[quasi mantle]

Well, if you live on super high altitude, then yeah, it could make your blood boil at slightly higher than room temperature

Though I think at 1 atmosphere boiling point for blood is 100°c

[ocean parcel]

depends which government

[oblique cloak]

USA

[ocean parcel]

i'd assume that'd be fine, i thought you can legit just go in wal-mart and buy a gun over there.

wish it was that simple over here....

[verbal junco]

why? that'd be terrible

[quasi mantle]

Dude, gun control laws had the good outweigh the bad
At least you won't find random asshole roaming around killing everyone on sight

Though interestingly enough, locally, larger scale business owner can have permit to own a real handgun

[ocean parcel]

all i'll say is I always wish I was American. 😔

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-batman-dark-knight-yikes-heath-ledger-gif-20521422

[quasi mantle]

To be fair, this was what I used to think
||as a kid||

Nowadays, I'm happy to be Far East inhabitant. Shit seem to happen a lot over the other side.

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/martian-mattdamon-space-nasa-gif-4707299

[quasi mantle]

Though Southern Americans seem nicer

[ocean parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-shrug-maybe-i-dont-know-gif-14913933

[ocean parcel]

True.

[quasi mantle]

I guess in a way, Southern America is like the neutral good older brother of the chaotic evil of Northern America

[ocean parcel]

OOOH

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-shooting-gif-5336127

I thought you meant the Deep South.

[oblique cloak]

oh you people from the eu have not heard about nyc subway?

[quasi mantle]

TBH now I think of North America as all around chaotic lol

I guess it was because of my impressions from internet behaviours

[oblique cloak]

Some guy brought a bunch of gas grenades, and a rifle and a mask on a NYC subway train a few days ago, shot up a bunch of people.

[fleet tangle]

Fun times?

[unreal ether]

ive been looking into guns a lot lately

typically as long as your looking into them legally they dont care

and it wont even gt flagged

if you start looking at black market stuff then youll probably be monitored

[oblique cloak]

good xD

[unreal ether]

if you can legally get the things in the country then it will be fine

[oblique cloak]

Im only searching like the caliber, how many rounds each gun holds

[unreal ether]

it isnt a crime to know things

i mean ive been looking into them cause i have been thinking of getting my FAC here in the uk

[oblique cloak]

really? a really cool pistol is one i posted above and its cheap

[unreal ether]

cant own typical pistols in the uk

or semi auto centrefire rifles

[oblique cloak]

😮 wtf??

[unreal ether]

because of the dunblane massacre

some sick guy shot a bunch of children witha handgun in scotland so short barreled firearms were banned in the uk

[oblique cloak]

wow

[unreal ether]

for similar reasons semi auto centrefire rifles were banned

you can own pistols mind you

but they look a bit different

thats a uk legal m1911

ive been looking at one for £550

[oblique cloak]

whats the stick?

arm placement?

[unreal ether]

its just useless metal on the back to make the gun non concealable

[verbal junco]

I'd eventually like to get the western equivalent of the AS Val

[oblique cloak]

ohhh

[unreal ether]

saaame

i would like to move to america at some point

[verbal junco]

I dunno about that

but I'm thinking

in a time of scarcity

[unreal ether]

idk ive been there before and it was really nice

[verbal junco]

you need a gun that works long term, isn't too deadly, and is silent

[oblique cloak]

if you want to move to america, do not move to a city, move to the country.

[unreal ether]

uk gun laws dictate that you can only own semi automatic rifles in .22 lr

or other rimfire calibre, but 22 lr is the only non obsolete one

you can own large caliber rifles but they have to be bolt action/manually cycled

i can own an ak47 if the gas system is removed

actually planning to go shoot one soon

hell i can own a 50 cal sniper

the major thing with uk law is you need good reason though

[oblique cloak]

So most people just have, bats as protection?

lol

[unreal ether]

i need to prove i will use the weapon for a permitted activity more than 3 times a year

[unreal ether]

weapons as self defense is not muhc of a concept in the uk

we dont have any real danger

there is a lot of knife crime

and even gang violence

but typically thats in rough areas

various london suburbs etc.

[oblique cloak]

I dont fear danger, i just like knowing my house is protected against zombies, or some kind of chemical assault lol

[unreal ether]

basically i want a ruger 10/22, an m1911, and maybe an ar15 to shoot at my local range

[pearl elk]

I chemically assault my house after dinner every night

[oblique cloak]

(YES ZOMBIES ARE REAL)

[unreal ether]

ar15 has to be straight pull tho

wouldnt mind some sniper like an m40a5

actually been looking at remington 700 police

but theyre pricey

[oblique cloak]

man i cant wait to animate my snipers

[unreal ether]

like £1700 in the uk

[oblique cloak]

thats going to be the fun part

[unreal ether]

i do like guns, and i like target shooting so i hope to get a couple in the uk for funsies

and if i have a enough savings

move to the us

bring my guns with me

live in the suburbs somewhere

maybe not real country

that would be a ok for me

the bonus of shooting regular in the uk is the ammo is cheap

seeing as you can only really shoot 22 lr in most cases

its like £3 for 50 rounds

[oblique cloak]

i mean i just recently got into guns for dev, very interesting seening the evolution of what they where to what they are now

[unreal ether]

.308 and large caliber get expensive tho, its like £24 for 20

another reason why i wanna go shooting is so i know what to recreate for my projects with weapons

but also just cause its a fun sport

[oblique cloak]

i have been watching FPP of gun shooting with my vr headset lol

[unreal ether]

went shooting once with air rifles once and it was great

[pearl elk]

Im a fan of .300 AAC

[oblique cloak]

fn 509

[unreal ether]

is that the same as .300 blackout?

not too up on my more obscure calibres

.300 blackout is also quite common in the uk

[oblique cloak]

6 rounder?

[unreal ether]

if you pick up a sniper its either gonna be .300 blackout or .308

[fleet tangle]

Or maybe it's just a 50 cal

[unreal ether]

50 cals are hella pricey in the uk, not sure about us

[pearl elk]

I think its big in the UK cuz of the Winchester cart which is pretty similar, its odd, blackout rifles will shoot the other one but not the other way around.

[unreal ether]

if you want a 50 cal rifle you're looking at like 10 grand

[verbal junco]

big calibers are overrated

[pearl elk]

lol might as well build some missiles in your shed

[unreal ether]

ye a 50 cal ax50 is nearly 10k

some on the cheaper side tho

[verbal junco]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxjIgTc22os

[unreal ether]

very unlikely to be allowed one tho

cause proving good reason for a 50 cal is hard

[fleet tangle]

For £10k, you could build a working gauss rifle that'd fire 50 cals.

[unreal ether]

and you need to apply for a variation on weapon calibre for every weapon you want

[verbal junco]

gauss rifles don't fire calibers though

just 2mm steel plates

[unreal ether]

you basically approach your firearms officer witha form that says i would like 3 slots for .22 rimfire, and 1 for .308

[fleet tangle]

They can fire whatever you design them to fire, CE

[verbal junco]

except they don't use explosive chambers so using any kind of bullet will just destroy your gun

[unreal ether]

ye a lot fo em are either .223, .308 or .300

[fleet tangle]

You could easily use a bullet casing.

Or a regular bullet with the powder taken out.

[oblique cloak]

this is freaking hilarious lmfao

[verbal junco]

bullet casing or not, you're basically firing hte casing with bullet at this point if you're using a gauss rifle

I mean there's a reason you fire steel plates and not bullets

[unreal ether]

holy cow with that price id be scared to shoot it

[verbal junco]

no need to reinvent the wheel

[unreal ether]

thats just an ornament

[pearl elk]

get a 20ga pistol

[fleet tangle]

Gauss rifles are already reinventing the wheel! 😄

[verbal junco]

they aren't

and also they aren't really that powerful

[unreal ether]

one day i will own a saiga 12

they are legal here no one can stop me

the clay pigeons shall get it

[verbal junco]

a railgun would be better, but railguns literally destroy the barrel every time you fire them

[unreal ether]

dont get why they call em clay pigeons... they look more like frisbees smh

[unreal ether]

wait rlly

[verbal junco]

because you need a direct connection between the EM rails and the projectile

[unreal ether]

never looked into rail guns

[verbal junco]

yeah they degrade incredibly fast

[unreal ether]

so whats the difference between railguns and gauss weapons, cause i thought they were the same

[verbal junco]

gauss has a barrel chamber for your projectile

[oblique cloak]

just 3d print a gun 😛

[verbal junco]

so there's no connection between your projectile and the firing device

rail guns require you to connect your projectile to two rails, so current passes through

[unreal ether]

instant 5 year minimum in the uk

its not even a grey area like other countries

instant 5 years

[verbal junco]

the difference is that rail guns are orders of magnitude better

but at the cost of durability

[unreal ether]

are they functionally similar then?

[fleet tangle]

They both use electromagnetism.

[unreal ether]

just different means of similar tech

[fleet tangle]

Just in different ways.

[unreal ether]

ah ok

have you seen the laser cannons on us ships now

theyre insane

[fleet tangle]

The rail gun only produces the magnetic effect near the projectile because it's causing the circuit to be complete across it

[unreal ether]

we live in star wars now

[verbal junco]

they both use EM as the main way of powering the projectile

[pearl elk]

lol Im coming over for a try when that day happens

[unreal ether]

we gonna be deploying tie fighters

[unreal ether]

lmaooo

[unreal ether]

ahhhhh thanks

[fleet tangle]

I mean, that's how I'd do it.

[verbal junco]

but gauss guns are basically the BB gun of the future atm

[unreal ether]

yeah ive seen some in action

punching through concrete like butter

[pearl elk]

get two saiga-12s and use them as rocket arms

[verbal junco]

rail guns can do huge damage

[unreal ether]

yoo real life rocket jumping!

[verbal junco]

as in, orbitally, you could probably dig several KM into the earth's crust with one

[unreal ether]

do you think that will count as good reason

[unreal ether]

damn

[fleet tangle]

The problem with that, CE, is just getting sufficient mass up there in the first place.

[verbal junco]

well yeah, space elevators not being a thing

[unreal ether]

so in short ive got a very efficient mining startup to make

say goodbye to drills

[fleet tangle]

Probably easier to move a comet into the right trajectory.

[verbal junco]

I'm still on board for ion cannons

I love the firing mechanism

[fleet tangle]

Which is?

[verbal junco]

ionize a plasma channel

send a high energy payload through newly opened plasma channel

high energy requirement, but very little mass required

you could probably make a miniature one with the payload being a grape that you send microwaves through

[unreal ether]

i mean at this point its understandable why we ave stuck with guns and nukes

[verbal junco]

and a few high energy laser pointers

[unreal ether]

cost of uranium < ion cannon

(probably)

[pearl elk]

microwave weapons are handy for counter intel

[verbal junco]

you need quite powerful lasers to have it happen

[fleet tangle]

I always wondered if a home made gauss rifle would count as "owning a gun."

[deep copper]

nuclear power ion canon

[verbal junco]

from an orbital point of view anyway

if you're just doing it 5m from the ground with a grape, you could probably do it with some laser pointers

some of the more powerful ones that you can get OTC

the concept remains the same though

[foggy path]

Just buy a microwave oven and break the door mechanism so you can open it when it's running

[oblique cloak]

omg this sniper.... so beautiful

https://www.nwatactical.com/cheytac-paladin.html-1

[foggy path]

now you can grill people with it

NWA Tactical? lol

[pearl elk]

pukegun

[verbal junco]

anyway ballistics kind of sucks for the everyday person

[mossy nexus]

My old microwave would only turn on if the door was open.

[unreal ether]

just found this one @oblique cloak

with a scope that would be sucha good plinking mid range rifle

[verbal junco]

you're just as likely to damage or kill yourself as you are with the other person

[foggy path]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nwa-straight-outta-compton-clay-rodery-3oEduT8FzIQV1SGYRa

[unreal ether]

and its cheap af

[oblique cloak]

thats a good idea, mid range rifles

[unreal ether]

would be decent for small game hunting too

[oblique cloak]

hmmm. 2 sets of high power, one middle range and one mad no scoper sniper.

[verbal junco]

this is probably the one I'd go for

[unreal ether]

which i plan on getting into

[deep copper]

30% off , so it's not all that accurate

[unreal ether]

that is nice

my semi auto of choice would be a hk416

[verbal junco]

it's basically a pistol with a grip that can be fully automatic

[unreal ether]

but for the hunting rifle feel i like that one

[verbal junco]

5.56x45mm too, which means ammo will be plentiful

[unreal ether]

my first guns i dont wanna go really expensive

[pearl elk]

get a full carbon fiber one 😛

[fleet tangle]

My semi-auto of choice is the m202 flash

[mossy nexus]

Yup. People are dumb. Picture the average guy, a regular joe. Now understand that 50% of the world isn't as smart as him.

[unreal ether]

yeah

america would have a lot less people being shot if you needed stringent checks

but no

its insane

you can legally by any gun you want in the us

even without citizenship

you just have to have lived there for 90 days on an immigrant visa

its wacky

[oblique cloak]

well, you need like 16 different documents lol

[unreal ether]

still the point is

[verbal junco]

good ol george carlin quote

[mossy nexus]

What I find incredulous is seeing assault weapons for sale in supermarkets.

[deep copper]

if you can get a killing that easily, it's quite weird

[unreal ether]

you dont need background checks or anything, just some paper

[verbal junco]

"freedum"

[mossy nexus]

Aye, a bit bastardised though 😄

[unreal ether]

went to walmart when i was there and it wa weird, they had handguns near the food freezers

[pearl elk]

they wont give you a real semi-auto here

[unreal ether]

and cars

[pearl elk]

let alone full auto

[unreal ether]

yeah the only semi auto in uk is plinking calibre

low velocity

and you need regular visits form the police

[pearl elk]

lever action is probably as close as you can get to semi firing speeds

[verbal junco]

that sig sauer is about 2300 usd though, and it's the only gun I'd probably ever buy

unless we get laser weapons stat

[mossy nexus]

I saw one of my old squadron's tanks for sale the other day. Was kinda weird, seeing I left 30 years ago.

Damn thing looked worse for ware I can tell you 😄

[verbal junco]

at least it's not dumped into the sea

[mossy nexus]

The the regimental eye was still visible. Just.

[unreal ether]

but the thing is there are countries with little restrictions on weapons, theres a nordic country that allows you to buy pretty much the same weapons as the us, but you need to go through training and background/mental health checks

and guess how many fatal shootings theyve had in the last 11 years... 1... and it was a suicide

[deep copper]

you were in a squad as well?

[verbal junco]

they really don't

norway in some cases yes, if you live in the far north

because wildlife

but in the cities you won't get permission

[unreal ether]

well ye not in cities

owning guns in a city is a bad idea anway

not exactly many places to shoot em

unless it's ye old fireplace musket or something

[verbal junco]

I mean I'd keep a gun just for if the nukes ever fall and the world is in a state of emergency

but even then I'd keep low calibers

[unreal ether]

but for some reason hanging an ar15 above the fire doesnt have the same finesse to it

[verbal junco]

because you don't want to be killing people

[deep copper]

aren't there cases of children taking guns of parents and blasting it

[unreal ether]

yup

learnt about 1 kid that shot his grandma thinking she could just respawn

[deep copper]

how are these countries dealing with those

[unreal ether]

thats another thing., If you have guns and children, drill into them gun safety, and even then dont let them have any access to it

[verbal junco]

oh hey, the british MET actually use that sig sauer as part of their weaponry

[unreal ether]

what do you mean

[deep copper]

children shooting etc type stuff

[unreal ether]

it doesnt happen

[deep copper]

we are talking 11 years

[unreal ether]

because you have to legally keep things like that safe

in the uk you cannot buy a gun unless you have a government approved gun safe

that is bolted into the wall

[oblique cloak]

wow this gun looks so cool!!!

Chiappa Firearms Rhino

[unreal ether]

and only you are allowed to know where the key is

[deep copper]

the us is really lax then

[unreal ether]

stuff like that makes it impossible for children to get guns

if you store large amounts of weapons then you need to have a gun room

with a steel locked door, any windows barred etc.

[deep copper]

that's some cowboy stuff

[unreal ether]

you literally have to construct a vault

[oblique cloak]

xD

it reminds me of the wingman in apex.

[deep copper]

for real or are you exaggerating ?

[unreal ether]

but in the us you fill out a piece fo paper, and then you can just hang the gun from a ceiling fan

[unreal ether]

well id say a soldi steel door that locks tight and barred windows is pretty vault like

[deep copper]

then , thats quite solid security

[unreal ether]

if you store small amounts like, maybe 20 guns, then a series of safes, with safes for ammunition is good enough

but large amounts

[deep copper]

yeah i can imagine US going that what's the point of gun if you don't have it during time of need easily or something

[unreal ether]

like 50 would probably need a dedicated room

[unreal ether]

exactly

[deep copper]

"small amounts" "20" yikes

yeah exactly lol

[unreal ether]

guns as self defense doesnt count in the uk

ik but in terms of storage space it's quite small

its like 4 safes

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-matrix-keanu-reeves-carrie-ann-moss-neo-trinity-gif-4039760

[unreal ether]

but more than that is why you need a room

even if someone is threatening your life, shooting them is likely going to get you arrested

and charged

at the very least youll have the guns taken away

at the most youll be charged for misuse or murder

[oblique cloak]

might as well put silly straws in beer cups too.

[deep copper]

wait wait, ah, i think i get it

those stuff in uk is for gun collectors stuff

not really defense like in us

[unreal ether]

collectors and sport

[verbal junco]

that's what I am saying though. use a gun for deterrence not for shooting

[unreal ether]

shooting as a sport, for hunting or collection is valid

[unreal ether]

even then it can be iffy here

[pearl elk]

they managed to get some pretty cool guns into Australia for those movies

and not accidently shoot anyone at that 😮

[deep copper]

probably replica

fake plastic toys

[pearl elk]

nah the full auto Morpheus uses, that was real

[deep copper]

matrix real or real real

[pearl elk]

prop gun real, so firing live blanks

[deep copper]

ah, didn't that recently kill someone

[pearl elk]

killed alec baldwins career

or is it alex, always mix those up

[unreal ether]

ye the prop guys loaded the gun with real ammo

[deep copper]

do you own guns ?

[unreal ether]

no but im looking into it

its a lengthy process

shotguns are easy in the uk

[deep copper]

are you going hunting ..?

[unreal ether]

as long as they only hold 3 rounds

might do but mines mainly for sport

[deep copper]

ah yeah, i can't imagine hunting wild boars with those

[unreal ether]

firearms require lots of checks tho, shotguns are easy

i may try deer hunting, or small game, but im mostly interested in target shooting

maybe competitively

[pearl elk]

do they have large game in the UK?

people dont count 😛

[deep copper]

nice, how confident are you in your game rn ?

aim*

well game as well

[fleet tangle]

There's tories... do they count as people?

[mossy nexus]

Only once they have gone through conversion therapy

[deep copper]

what about, trucks airplanes etc

[unreal ether]

in the uk deer is considered large game

[mossy nexus]

Red Deer can be fairly damn large. We had a pregnant doe, size of a cow and then some.

[deep copper]

it's bringing up political parties ...?

[verbal junco]

was it delicious?

[unreal ether]

https://basc.org.uk/advice/quarry-species-shooting-seasons/

[mossy nexus]

Now now, you know you don't kill mammas.

[verbal junco]

red deer with deer stuffing 😋

[deep copper]

ah okay yup it's all just that stuff

[unreal ether]

can only hunt them at certain times of the year and certain times of day too

[pearl elk]

someones got the cockpit of MH-17 mounted above their fireplace

[fleet tangle]

It?!

[unreal ether]

main reason i would like to deer hunt is cause i like venison, and that would be a cheaper way fo getting some

[deep copper]

google

[unreal ether]

i can aim fairly decently, whether that will hold up to something with more recoil i dont know

[fleet tangle]

Pretty sure if I googled "it" I'd get pictures of clowns.

[mossy nexus]

😄

[unreal ether]

ive practiced archery and air rifles before, but never a firearm

archery i was pretty good at

[deep copper]

no no lol xD, i meant by" it" i meant google

[unreal ether]

same with air rifles, which was impressive considering i was young and it was only iron sights

[mossy nexus]

Yes, Tories refers to a political party.

[deep copper]

google shows poltical parties for tory

[unreal ether]

i remeber the gun was nearly too heavy for my little arms

[pearl elk]

yup clowns, disappointed it doesnt suggest tit

[deep copper]

tories yes

[unreal ether]

went shooting as part of a y6 school trip

[verbal junco]

you're in for a surprise

[unreal ether]

ik

[deep copper]

hope we find out !

[fleet tangle]

I've shot some air rifles/guns. I had pretty good aim for a half blind person.

[deep copper]

ah you have experience then

[unreal ether]

thats why im going to a gun club before i go for an FAC

i need to be a member anyway before i can get an FAC

so go there semi regular for a while

then see if i still like it

although i think i will

[verbal junco]

I should see if I can pull a gun apart and put it together again

[fleet tangle]

That'd just be pictures of the UK prime minister.

[unreal ether]

i can do that in theory

[verbal junco]

been ages since I did that

[unreal ether]

do you own guns then?

[verbal junco]

nah this was in the military

[unreal ether]

oh you were in the military?

how long did you serve?

[fleet tangle]

I know what I'd make from gun parts

...a mess.

[deep copper]

isn't that a bird

[unreal ether]

id make something that looks like a gun but probably blows up on shooting it

[verbal junco]

to be fair, in my country, not the UK

[unreal ether]

ah

[deep copper]

mind blowing

[fleet tangle]

Where are you from again, CE?

[verbal junco]

||made you look||

[unreal ether]

i was gonna say if it was a while ago i was gonna feel sorry for you if it was britain

the l85 was a trainwreck

[deep copper]

what's 185?

[unreal ether]

L not 1

[deep copper]

ah

[unreal ether]

L85A1 aka SA80 aka the worst service rifle in history

[deep copper]

it looks like ...a gun

ak 47-ish

[verbal junco]

that looks way more modern than what I practiced

we practiced using G3s

[unreal ether]

the L85 was one of those deployed in afghanistan, but the gun itself if it even saw a speck of dust would jam immediately

now i do like the g3

H&K are very good

[deep copper]

worst location for use then

ugh

[unreal ether]

i plan on getting their uk legal mp5sd at some point

near silent

[verbal junco]

but I wasn't ever sent into combat so I can't really say I have served

[unreal ether]

could shoot it in my backyard and no one would know a gun was fired... and i have neighbours

i like the mp5

[unreal ether]

what role did you serve, or were you a reserve

[deep copper]

...are you planning to kill your neighbours

[unreal ether]

no god no

[verbal junco]

reserve, a type of conscription

[deep copper]

secret serial killer, and no one knows who

[unreal ether]

in the uk, unlike the US, silencers/moderators/supressors are encouraged

so you dont disturb people

[verbal junco]

basically given boot camp training and that's about it

[deep copper]

yeah guns are scary loud

[unreal ether]

ideally in the uk you want your guns to be as quiet as possible to not disturb the peace

and the mp5sd is scary quiet

[deep copper]

and they give away location, i guess that helps for self defence in us

[unreal ether]

which is good thing in the uk, means i can go to a range and not deafen people, or if i owned property with neighbours, i coudl still shoot my gun into the lawn or smthn with no issues

[deep copper]

how do you not lose your own hearing

[unreal ether]

lots of the us ban supressors

[unreal ether]

ear protection

[deep copper]

well yeah, guns have freedom too

[unreal ether]

still loud, just not bursty eardrums loud

[deep copper]

ah, right, what about those daily US folks tho

[unreal ether]

in the uk on a first time FAC you could probably get around 7-13 weapons, some with supressors

as long as you check out medically and criminally

[unreal ether]

still ear protection im pretty sure

[primal summit]

proper ear protection, ammunition suited for the barrel length, no muzzle brake

[deep copper]

you have sure done your research 🤔

[unreal ether]

i have

i wanna be a responsible gun owner

i take the saftey very seriously

[deep copper]

what all medical check do you need actually?

[pearl elk]

surveys people in the local area, question 1 "should I get a gun?"

[unreal ether]

even in america when i dont need to, i would still use the same safety methods, like proper gun security and whatnot

[deep copper]

complicated words, but i see

[unreal ether]

part of the process of an application is 2 referees to say you are of good character 😆

[deep copper]

basically keep it clear , the way of bullet

[verbal junco]

the best kind of responsible gun owner you can be is to not own any guns 😂

[deep copper]

wait so if you take a supressed gun to us does that make you criminal?

[primal summit]

shorter barrels, faster burning powder and lighter projectiles

[unreal ether]

mostly mental health, to make sure you are not a danger to yourself or others

so stuff like psychosis and depression raises questions but isnt an instant no

and physical, if your liekly to have a sneezing fit with your finger on the trigger then youd likely get denied

[deep copper]

so, .. who are you using?

[unreal ether]

not entirely, there are permits for bringing guns abroad iirc, theres a form you can fill out

[primal summit]

you need the proper tax stamp and registration for it to be legal at the federal level, but you may not be able to re-export it due to ITAR regulations

[unreal ether]

no idea yet

[pearl elk]

pretty sure the HK MP5 is sold with the suppressor, theres acouple of guns where its not removable too

[deep copper]

the last para, i have thought about how there's no one that sneezed and shot someone

[unreal ether]

im still a ways away from getting one

its a big cost as well

[deep copper]

so.. buying a US gun for us is easier

[primal summit]

yes

a lot of ranges offer rentals too

[unreal ether]

same here

thats why imma try it for a while and see if i like it

[deep copper]

wait rental ?

[unreal ether]

i can rent guns at my local range for £10 each

[primal summit]

but that may change if biden's direction to the atf to update their regulations happens

[deep copper]

so you need proper licence only or something

[primal summit]

all you need is ID and money

[unreal ether]

i can go shooting at my range without a license, it's sorta license by proxy

[deep copper]

no check up?

[primal summit]

but can't take it from the range

[unreal ether]

they tend to get a special license, that allows people there to shoot

[deep copper]

what if you shoot the security or whatever

do they lock the doors or something

[unreal ether]

so what i would do is become a member which as a student, is fairly cheap, and then i can rent guns while im there

[primal summit]

no

[unreal ether]

i mean you can shoot the security but thats pretty much instant murder charge with witnesses

[primal summit]

but since literally everyone there is carrying, odds of success are low

[unreal ether]

^

plus the range handlers are pretty quick on the draw

[deep copper]

i am surprised there was no one stupid enough to try that yet

[unreal ether]

if they even see a gun turn away from the range, youll be on the ground with no weapon before you can say oops

[deep copper]

i guess it never made to news since they would be subdued

[primal summit]

pretty sure it's mostly a matter of looking at all the people confidently carrying and changing their mind

[unreal ether]

ye

[primal summit]

it happened once here

[fleet tangle]

I'm just imagining those random newbies who swing around while holding shotguns.

[unreal ether]

you walk into a range, and there isnt gonna be a single person without a weapon

unless you like sniffing paper targets or something

[primal summit]

the range actually got more business after

[unreal ether]

https://tenor.com/view/shotgun-shooting-dance-gif-20610590

[deep copper]

weird marketing

[primal summit]

because a lot of people didn't know you could rent one until after the news articles

[verbal junco]

haven't seen that gun kata before 😂

[fleet tangle]

It's just like rollercoasters. If somebody dies on them, more people want to ride.

[unreal ether]

it wasnt even what i was looking for lmao but i chose it

[deep copper]

so in short people want to die and pay for it

[unreal ether]

was tryina find the gif of police acadamy? where the guy turns around with the shotgun

[primal summit]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-drone-gun-drone-drone-gun-gif-5375263

[unreal ether]

https://tenor.com/view/police-academy-down-gif-11259047

[fleet tangle]

People like a thrill, aff

[primal summit]

mind you that's all kinds of illegal

[verbal junco]

this you should fear

[unreal ether]

im surprised it stayed stable with the shot

thats impressive

[primal summit]

indeed

[unreal ether]

FOUND IT!

[primal summit]

surprised they got the gun to stay on

might be a .22 though

[deep copper]

yeah i was thinking it would go haywire

[unreal ether]

could be

[deep copper]

didn't even notice the shooting

[unreal ether]

scratch that im surpised its balanced with a gun on the front

[verbal junco]

I dunno why people treat .22 as a laughing matter

[unreal ether]

i dont se any counterweights

[primal summit]

it isn't

just less recoil

[unreal ether]

yeah i mean 22 lr is no joke of a round, its just probably light enough for a drone

[deep copper]

if it can kill it's decent

[unreal ether]

now if you wanna talk about the safest bullet look at the kolbri's ammo

its been compared to a beesting

[primal summit]

on a side note, I help a LOT of people with electronics projects

[deep copper]

that hurts a lot

[verbal junco]

if it penetrates the skin you're still stuck with a bullet wound and potential organ damage

[unreal ether]

sweet see my comment about rave coffin last night

thats one with the bullet

[primal summit]

and my favorite units of energy when they're doing something stupid are .45acp and .308win

[unreal ether]

its so dinky

[deep copper]

do you also build guns and stuff?

[deep copper]

it's kinda cute

[primal summit]

like that 2200mAh 3.7V battery in your phone is 10 rounds of .308

[fleet tangle]

This guy has massive hands!

😄

[unreal ether]

lmaooo

[primal summit]

no, but I've put scopes and rails on my long guns and a trigger job on my 1911

I do hand load my own ammo though

[unreal ether]

“It’s possible that a round from one of these diminutive little pistols might actually be lethal — IF, one were presumably ever shot in just the right place, and then neglected to see a doctor for about three or four weeks, long enough for gangrene to set it and cause a bad case of blood poisoning.”

in regards to the deadliness of the kolibri

[deep copper]

no idea what that means but nice!

[primal summit]

sounds like a .22bb

[unreal ether]

how do you ensure you aint making hot ammo

it seems risky no?

saw a guy nearly die from a hot .50 bmg

[primal summit]

just primer and bullet, meant to knock down pins in carnival games

[unreal ether]

ah

[primal summit]

weigh your powder carefully

I run nowhere near the round's specs

[oblique cloak]

hmm i'm thinking about buying this. https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/modern-handguns-combo-prop-pack-vol but most models are only about 7 - 10 k polygons. should i go with more? or stick around that

[fleet tangle]

What if you got shot in the eye?

From point blank

[unreal ether]

youd get eye damage but you wouldnt die i imagine

[primal summit]

using a reloading manual for the bullet of choice, using the right powder it calls for

[unreal ether]

again unless you let yourself die from infection

[fleet tangle]

I'm sure it would penetrate the eye.

Probably.

[unreal ether]

it would

but not kill

that in itself is not deadly

[fleet tangle]

You know what's behind the eye, right?

[unreal ether]

yes

[fleet tangle]

I'm wondering if it would get through the fluid. It's pretty viscous.

[unreal ether]

a replacment eye for if your old one falls out

[verbal junco]

I need replacement eyes

and replacement teeth

and replacement skin

[fleet tangle]

I do actually need a replacement eye.

[verbal junco]

can't wait for skin 2.0

[fleet tangle]

My left macula is fucked.

[primal summit]

let me know if you make it

[unreal ether]

“The Kolibri was a novelty item, basically a miniaturized gallery gun intended to shoot small targets indoors without need for a backstop. It was never designed or intended to be used as a weapon.
Realistically, it could injure someone in a similar manner as a low powered CO2 pellet pistol, with the possibility of breaking through exposed flesh and leaving a bloody welt or even rupturing the eye globe if struck directly.
It is UNLIKELY to be LETHAL even if someone was STRUCK DIRECTLY in the THROAT.
It is little more than a very expensive dangerous toy.”

found this in regards to that

[verbal junco]

rupture = organ damage = potential death or long term damage

[unreal ether]

so yeah permanent damage if dumb, yes, death, extremely unlikely

just thought the kolibri was a fun little piece of info anyway

nothing to take seriously

it was a novelty thing so i enjoy it's novelty

like spud guns

do any non uk people have them in your country?

quite common around seasides here

[primal summit]

potato cannons are fairly common stateside too

[unreal ether]

just shoots a little chunk of potato

fun little kids toy

[fathom wadi]

I remember having a spud gun for about an hour when I was kid, but I used it to shoot another kid in the face and got banned from having one 😦

[unreal ether]

well that was very naughty smh

i got a physics simulation game banned form my secondary school

it was called powder toy

veyr fun

but i kept making deuterium bombs and it was banned

[pearl elk]

potato cannon lol

[fleet tangle]

I used to have one of these. In fact, I owned several over my youth.

Utterly shit 😄

[pearl elk]

we made tennis ball cannons out of the tubes

[unreal ether]

ikrt

idk why i have fond memories of em

[verbal junco]

anything else to talk about than guns

it's almost like cars

[unreal ether]

electronics?

i wanna see if anyone else has done any cool electronics projects

they seem fun

[verbal junco]

I wanted to do a laser mic

[unreal ether]

whats one of those?

[fleet tangle]

They are truly in the potato category of guns.

[verbal junco]

a mic that you can use to eavesdrop from a distance

[oblique cloak]

they have those.

[verbal junco]

e.g. you point it at a glass facade, glass vibrates slightly when people speak, pick up on the vibrations and translate them to sound waves

[oblique cloak]

there shaped like ears, and girls on twitch lick em.

[unreal ether]

ohhhh

wait why do you want an eavesdropping mic

kinda dodgy lmao

[verbal junco]

and a gun isn't? 🤔

[fleet tangle]

He's got really bad hearing.

[unreal ether]

i mean eavesdropping isnt really a sport

shooting is

[oblique cloak]

no people watching is.

[deep copper]

that's a job actually

[verbal junco]

🤔

I dunno I think guns are way more dodgy than a project to make a laser mic

but ok

[primal summit]

laser mics have their uses

[fleet tangle]

Playing with cats.

[primal summit]

listen to the sounds at your gate a hundred yards away

[deep copper]

so it IS a hearing aid

maybe it's useful for landscape asmrs or something

[unreal ether]

ig anything is dodgy if misued

[primal summit]

thinking of making a phased array passive sonar for monitoring the property for predators

found the right FPFA and mics for it

might also be suitable, with a couple steel rods, for audio detection coupled through the ground

[deep copper]

⚠️ a large moving object detected ! 🚨

🐈

[primal summit]

coyotes, more often

[deep copper]

🦊 ?

[primal summit]

after the chickens, ducks, qual, guineafowl, or peacocks usually

[deep copper]

🐺 ??

[primal summit]

sometimes just passing through

[fleet tangle]

What you need to do now is integrate them with UE.

[deep copper]

if the sonar can make out shapes, you might be able to tell them apart

[fleet tangle]

And make a minimap.

Pings and all.

[deep copper]

that would be quite "epic"

[primal summit]

or their unique sound profiles

[deep copper]

sounds are . they don't always make sounds

[primal summit]

they breathe

they walk

you don't have to make a sound to be making sounds

[deep copper]

they walk on different materials, and breathing is, i guess i see why you need that kind of mic for detecting chicken breathing ig

[primal summit]

but just detecting presence is enough

if it came from outside the fence, dispatch the guardbot I'm working on

[deep copper]

if it's your territory you can eventually map out possible materials + step combo( for all weather patterns too), probably easier to tell apart human vs animal or something with this, animal vs animal might be harder initially unless you have pets..?

or you somehow make those animals, come more for data

[primal summit]

we do have pets

dogs on either side of coyote size and cats

[deep copper]

ah, then you got the targets

[primal summit]

frankly, the cadence of the footfalls should be enough to tell if it's worrisome or friendly

and location

[deep copper]

i wonder what would happen if they drag a tree branch or something, or if your area leaks other audio noises

[primal summit]

other noises, like the pumps and fish at the pond, or the wind?

which will distort and shift the audio and detection area

[unreal ether]

i never knew they were so useful

are they really that sensitive?

i guess since its precise, it can pick up even minute vibrations?

[unreal ether]

damn you gotta show me where the specs are for these

i changed my mind theyre cool af

[primal summit]

well, I started this project after discovering that I could pick up my breathing on the spectroid waterfall plot on my phone from half a room away

[unreal ether]

damnnnn

[primal summit]

I'm not using laser mics, just audio

all depends on scaling, adc, and sensitivity

[deep copper]

i mean, some loud music, say , or leaked audio from your place itself, because acoustic reflections from outside so pin pointing would be harder? and the mics are sensitive so they would pick everything

[fleet tangle]

They would pick up everything
Are they made in Madagascar?

[primal summit]

they would, but that's what an array of 4 is for: direction by phase shift

the fun part will be eliminating multipath reflections

[deep copper]

i suppose that's where you will need to work anyway, if it was that easy it wouldn't be worth it and be done already

[primal summit]

as far as integrating into UE, that'd make an awesome UI, but I am awful at C, I prefer low level

can blueprints talk to external IO?