lounge

[deep copper]

good good

[timber viper]

im switching to new things i got approved today
Congrats

[night grove]

You leaving us?

[deep copper]

goodluck ponki! congratulations ponki! go go ponki!

[deep copper]

never got to taste their hands or legs 😔

[verbal junco]

they already left the server

RIB

[zinc matrix]

ill send you a sample in jar next week

[deep copper]

don't worry, their alt by the name of zomg is here

[deep copper]

i , would prefer it alive more 😅

and jar... sounds, scary 😨

[zinc matrix]

dont worry, ill put some ice on there too

[verbal junco]

what did you get approved for

a scholarship

rent

adoption?

[deep copper]

gnome season

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o16h6voegFU

[deep copper]

but either way, they finally agreed to let me sample ! i am overjoyed !!! 😭

[zinc matrix]

would you know the difference if it were from my grandma tho?

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-weird-clapping-evil-laugh-gif-9962946

[deep copper]

depending on how big the sample is, yes

[verbal junco]

congrats. is it game related?

or mcdonalds related

[deep copper]

what if it's both

[deep copper]

tbf, that does sound like something they will make for a laugh or two

they did make a beautiful moon then made that a meme

i meanf po not mc

t*

ponki* xD

[zinc matrix]

how did you know my maiden name?

[verbal junco]

combine with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Js-XbNj6Tk

[zinc matrix]

also funny that its either game dev or mcdonalds..
thats quite contrast 😛

[verbal junco]

it's an old joke

[fathom wadi]

I'll raise you a second rate burger joint game. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Wimpy_(video_game)

[timber viper]

oof memories

[verbal junco]

thermae romae novae makes me want to learn latin

[foggy path]

actually... is that nsfw? it's just a statue tho

[quasi mantle]

Aunt Denise's got all dat arse

[foggy path]

I removed it just in case :p

[verbal junco]

nah no nsfw

[verbal junco]

just nude roman guy accidentally timetraveling to japan

[foggy path]

Lol

Frankly by episode 8 I'm starting to feel like he just hits his head every time and hallucinates all of it

[verbal junco]

but he actually speaks latin when there

it's fantastic

yeah that's fair

[foggy path]

But yeah it's a fun show

GetGianni from all the voice actor memes with fabino and such is apparently voicing a character in the english dub

[verbal junco]

I'm watching the sub

the way the VA speaks latin is 👌

[foggy path]

I have no idea if it sounds right or wrong tbh

[verbal junco]

I don't either

[foggy path]

At least I'm not noticing any really obvious things typical for a japanese accent

[verbal junco]

it just sounds correct

and I can actually understand some of the words

[foggy path]

I have been reading some Aristotle and Plato recently but I have no idea about any of this stuff lol

[verbal junco]

I dunno I think it's just fun stuff, but there's plenty of indo european roots derived from latin

and then there's all the latin phrases and all that

and then you hear "hoc est"

[foggy path]

alea jacta est

[verbal junco]

I believe they would use i instead of j but yes

[foggy path]

I remember this from reading Asterix comics as a kid lol

they had random latin phrases in it like that, maybe some others too

[verbal junco]

ah maybe it's intentionally misspelled then

oh so you don't know what it means?

[foggy path]

the die is cast or something along those lines

[verbal junco]

yea

used by julius caesar after crossing the rubicon

[foggy path]

Yeah, I think his representation in the comics used the phrase on a few occasions

but been a very long time since I read any

[zinc matrix]

pONKKIS

WHERE ARE YOU?

[fathom wadi]

why is there no Multiplayer course on learn.unrealengine.com ? Seems like a pretty core skillset for games

[zinc matrix]

Cedric Neukirchen's network compendium is all you need 😎

But that is a bit weird though now that you mention it

[fathom wadi]

well I've read the compendium several times but I wanted to do a course with a project and get a badge 😄

[fathom wadi]

tfw you run a project, everything is fine. You open the engine sln to create a new project, and it starts building ¬_¬

[trail wedge]

wtf Amazon sellers 🙃

[cursive crypt]

Could have been animals.

Are you looking for Influencers equipment? 🤔

[pearl elk]

you shoulda seen what came up on an Amazon ad for me on FB last night, NSFW tho lol

[cursive crypt]

They are into that business, heh

[trail wedge]

nah they were just led lights; I'm using them for taking photos of stuff for ebay

[cursive crypt]

Don't forget to put some make up, attracts customers.

[tired dust]

Hey guyz

https://c.tenor.com/9vD8GBwK8pwAAAAM/happy-dance.gif

[trail wedge]

check out this old RAM.... I put makeup on it cause ryobg told me to

[regal pecan]

RGB for the face. Brought to you by Razer's new makeup wing.

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/make-up-glam-gif-9261967

You jooke, but it will sell. I see kitten rams rising up.

[trail wedge]

it all makes sense now

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JewSFEb4D6Y

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/clean-your-ears-ear-wax-dirty-ears-gif-16360960

[knotty skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/662668055398055937/958493077557899324/unknown.png

[median wraith]

Talking ben the dog

that happen when you get ghosted

[proud jay]

random question, any of you have microsoft surface 2 heaphones, and if so are they decent?

[knotty skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-gif-24397066

[verbal junco]

never knew that microsoft made headphones. I'd stick with regular headphones from known companies personally

[cursive crypt]

In our company they were the main business equipment. The more recent ones were okayish. Don't expect hi-fi tho.

USB over the ear with a mic basically.

[proud jay]

I'm doubting between these surface 2 or the sony xm3 headphones, the xm3's seem to have better quality but no multi connectivity. And I just like the design of the surface ones tbh

[left granite]

😏

[cursive crypt]

I have no idea what are either of these, probably people around too. Therefore, make your own research and choose. I wouldn't say MS hardware is so bad... I consider gaming HW be on the same level, but ppl still buy it.

Anyway, time for coconut milk.

[proud jay]

not sure if a euphemism or actual coconut milk 🤔

[quasi mantle]

Wait, Microsoft made headphones now?

[proud jay]

if by now you mean like 4 years ago, yes

[quasi mantle]

Is this yet another instance of Microsoft's dumb naming trend? Because I know Surface is Microsoft's brand for seried of tablet PCs.

[zinc matrix]

bad advertisement then or something

I didn't know until now either

[proud jay]

yeah it is quite confusing

everything is just surface these days it seems

[quasi mantle]

Oh, okay.

I think this is more of lost in translation lol

[proud jay]

glad to inform you all 😄

[quasi mantle]

Because usually headphones are audio peripheral you wear on... head

[proud jay]

well where would you wear them otherwise?

[quasi mantle]

Not to burst your excitement, but this is the case of something lost in translation

[deep copper]

i heard someone say "I believe Microsoft is making professional Headphones …." just yesterday, but idk what that is supposed to mean

[proud jay]

how so?

[quasi mantle]

Though to be fair, I stand corrected with Microsoft having weird naming conventions

[deep copper]

ears?

that's earphones for you

[quasi mantle]

Tablet PCs aren't supposed to be worn on the head, y'all

[deep copper]

not yet* you mean

[proud jay]

it's just dumb that it's all surface

[deep copper]

VR advancements can get there

[proud jay]

idk why they call the headphones surfaces as well

guess they want a "surface ecosystem"

[quasi mantle]

Then there's Xbox Series

Because polluting the OG Xbox with Xbox One name wasn't enough

[deep copper]

if the surface (material?) feels good, then it makes sense i guess?

[quasi mantle]

I'd rather pick some Sennheiser or one of those KZ earbuds for audio

[celest musk]

^^

[proud jay]

I really dislike earbuds

[deep copper]

some people love those

[quasi mantle]

Then Sennheiser has some good headphones

[deep copper]

like, really love those, they don't want to be seperated

[quasi mantle]

I forgot the exact models, but I know few of them are recommended by audiophiles

[celest musk]

well i wouldn't take that as a reference

[quasi mantle]

I didn't say it is a reference

[celest musk]

read some reviews, and take a close look of what customers say about the materials after a few months of usage

some stuff may sound good, but the "leather" may rub off, or something similar after a while of usage

[quasi mantle]

Anyway

[celest musk]

or it gets sticky

[proud jay]

yeah my current headphones leather is starting to degrade

[celest musk]

because they all use fake leather nowadays, and there's a wide span of quality

[quasi mantle]

I now prefer earbuds, because I tend to move around a lot and easier to bring to sleep than headphones

[deep copper]

headphones keep changing and then there's the whole changed products, some well knows headphones' recent reviews are bad because they are now using different making processes or different manufacturers, watch out for super old reviews

[celest musk]

that's another problem for sure

but you have to take some risk anyways 😄

[deep copper]

also, keep in mind whether you need mic or not, and detatchable wires

if you are into wireless, goodluck charging and dealing with lags

[celest musk]

also a lot of the headphones that are popular among "audiophiles" require an external headphone amp or a soundcard with integrated one

[quasi mantle]

I think earbuds are more durable and less maintenance in that regard

The worst it can get is cleaning the silicone rubbers from earwax

[celest musk]

as they have higher impedance and therefor a normal audio output won't be enough

[quasi mantle]

Just look for those that has flatter frequency response

That's all I'm going to say

[proud jay]

Yeah I'm not an audiophile, just looking for something wireless for daily use for meetings and background music

[deep copper]

i kinda get earache after using earphones for long, headphones feel much better, but I can't keep my head on a pillow easily then

[proud jay]

same

[quasi mantle]

I tend to headbang a bit when playing drums as well, so falling headphones are common for me lol

[deep copper]

most wireless earbuds are decent if cheap, but if you go wireless headphones, you need to pay up

but again, I don't know your listening standards, and preferred genres

[celest musk]

if you like bass, you won't get around full enclosed headphones

[deep copper]

or just, sleep

[celest musk]

or put them next to your head and set them to 100% 😄

[deep copper]

that's mostly useful during development of audio and audio engineering, not great for listening. again depends on genre

[celest musk]

most stuff can be fixed by EQ anyways

but if you buy something cheap that can't go below or above a certain frequency, you can't fix that with EQ

[quasi mantle]

With jazz and prog rock, balanced frequency response is priority

[quasi mantle]

Admission: I hate earphones/headphones that are lopsided on low frequencies

[celest musk]

most music these days is mastered like shit from a audiophile point of view 😄

[deep copper]

it should have all frequency response on a wide range, standard was 20hz to 20khz right? then after you have listened for long enough, you will get used to it, the eq etc barely matters then unless something is seriously off

[quasi mantle]

To be fair, I do some audio engineering work.

[pearl elk]

If you like bass you need 2x12" subwoofers minimum

[quasi mantle]

Being a generalist motherfricker that I am

[celest musk]

nah, i had 1x 12" in 120l bandpass, thats enough 😄

for the whole neighbourhood

[pearl elk]

Im no generalist just a junglist

[deep copper]

i thought you were a beerist

[quasi mantle]

Just buy an acoustic drum kit, y'all
Forget any form of sound dampening

That'll enough to drive your neighbour insane

[proud jay]

people living in my house were never happy with my drums 😦

[celest musk]

who would have guessed.... 😛

[deep copper]

time to change that "living" then

[proud jay]

I did

however, I now never play the drums anymore :p

[deep copper]

:(

[celest musk]

you killed them? 😄

[quasi mantle]

Change gear to a guitarist

[deep copper]

they made those people their drum kit

[quasi mantle]

||my puns were never intentional I swear||

[proud jay]

I played the drums for 9 years in music school, but then I had the highest degree I could have without conservatorium and I was like well, don't even wanna play anymore really

Now I'm trying to be bad at the piano just for fun

[deep copper]

you don't like hitting something with a stick that makes a loud sound?

[quasi mantle]

I was about to play drums in middle school, but someone else beat me to it, and I had to live with painful acoustic guitar strings

At least nowadays I could be a drummer in my own term, and look for electronic drum kit for home practicing

[deep copper]

freedom!

[quasi mantle]

I really want to play jazz, metal, and prog rock drumming lol

[proud jay]

yeah I think electric drum is very nice

it makes you feel less self-consious of annoying other people or being judged when playing if you can use headphones

I think at least, never done it myself

[deep copper]

that's quite decent

[proud jay]

If I would ever buy drums again it would definitely be electric

electronic*

[quasi mantle]

I think Alesis Nitro Mesh is one of the good option, as it also has side stick support

Which is more common on jazz fusion tunes

[deep copper]

but drumming requires intense head movements right? you will end up like mako, with the flying headphones

[quasi mantle]

Depends lmao

Not all drummers headbang

[deep copper]

i have only seen nango star drumming videos so idk much

nyango*

[quasi mantle]

I kinda started with metal more, thus the headbanging

[proud jay]

I think playing like smooth jazz while headbanging is kinda strange

[quasi mantle]

Then bleed over to prog rock and jazz

[deep copper]

headbanging to jazz would be strange

[quasi mantle]

Not if you play faster jazz fusion tunes

Somewhere above 140 BPM

[deep copper]

if you really feel the rythm, i guess that makes it possible?

[verbal junco]

so weird that nyango star came up in discussion, just watched a video on that

[cursive crypt]

Actual ofc 🤔

There was none in the grocery tho (sad noises)

[deep copper]

it's technically a cat so you watched a cat video

[median wraith]

Do someone knows how to filter smooth the cursor movements on the editor viewport ?

Wanted to record a video, but it's too sensitive and all is rough once I move the camera

[foggy path]

Lower sensitivity? :P

[cursive crypt]

hardware dpi on your mouse, windows also has something to tune it up

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/xplore-gaming-mouse-x-plore-ihthishams-gaming-mouse-ihthishams-mouse-rgb-gif-20520715

[cursive crypt]

Mine also glows, you just reminded me.

Like... an useless feature really. My room is not so dark.

#work-in-progress

[quasi mantle]

At a glance I thought it was ponkkis lmao

[fathom wadi]

that looks like cyberpunk 2077 with a mod on it

[deep glen]

because he ripped it.

or got the content from someone else who did.

[ivory lodge]

I got up early and got my baseDoor working.

[zinc matrix]

It's a magic trick done in unreal in realtime. What it looks like it's not what it is, right? That's how a magic trick works. It's a neat trick, I guess, if it looks real enough...

[quasi mantle]

I've seen better magic.

[wraith harbor]

any1 else clean? 😎

[proud jay]

what do you mean with what it looks like it's not what it is?

isn't all 3d magic in that sense?

[wraith harbor]

it's all triangles, man..

epic literally selling a triangle factory out here

[quasi mantle]

Context was stolen assets

Not even alleged stolen assets, but real stolen assets

[fathom wadi]

3d is 2d but really fast.

[deep copper]

2d is 3d but really slow

[fathom wadi]

slow is fast but slower

[deep copper]

fast is slow but faster

[pearl elk]

3D is 5D just with less D

[deep copper]

1D is just 10D with less 0

[pearl elk]

!roll 10D

[turbid spindle]

Please enter a number between 1 and 7.

[deep copper]

!coin

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :coin: Tails

The timer expired. Please start again.

[pearl elk]

timer?

[deep copper]

you were supposed to enter a number between 1 and 7

[pearl elk]

!timer 10

but its a D10

[deep copper]

it wants to know how many dices to roll for that

!roll 7 d10

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :game_die: 7, 9, 6, 9, 2, 9, 5

[deep copper]

it rolled 7 d10

[pearl elk]

!roll 1 d10

[turbid spindle]

@pearl elk, :game_die: 2

[deep copper]

!roll d10

[turbid spindle]

Please enter a number between 1 and 7.

[deep copper]

4

[turbid spindle]

What type of dice do you want to roll?

[pearl elk]

thats a D6

[deep copper]

d8

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :game_die: 2, 6, 1, 5

[deep copper]

how?

[pearl elk]

look at the picture 😛

[deep copper]

xD

[thick belfry]

Have you played software inc?

[deep copper]

manny is on a budget

[pearl elk]

can only afford a single snake eye

[foggy path]

I have not but isn't that more of a management tycoon type game

[pearl elk]

Shogun Tycoon

[deep copper]

TankGun Tycoon

[pearl elk]

watched some crazy Russians make some conrods out of carbon fiber yesterday

engine ran, for a block and a half lol

[dark sequoia]

Anime Tycoon

[deep copper]

i have no idea what that is but sounds crazy

[deep copper]

woof tycoon

[dark sequoia]

woof!!

[deep copper]

woof!!!!

[zinc matrix]

🐽

[dark sequoia]

WOOF!!

[zinc matrix]

bork

[pearl elk]

conrods go between the piston and the crank

[deep copper]

i have heard of piston before but like that's it 😅

[deep copper]

oink

[deep copper]

WOOF!!!!

[pearl elk]

well lets say the conrods transfer the linear motion of the piston when the engine fires to the rotational motion of the crank

[deep copper]

crank = tire?

[pearl elk]

crank is the main shaft which drives the flywheel

https://cdn.visordown.com/styles/v2_large/s3/field/image/Crank and carbon conrod.jpg?itok=R7YARfm_

looks like someone might have made carbon conrods which work 😛

[fathom wadi]

huhuhuh shaft

[deep copper]

huh, so they made quite a vital component of the engine

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/well-look-at-you-surprised-really-hmph-gif-18289023

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/winterkl-robot-dog-banana-peel-gif-12581423

it really reminds me of this

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/shirley-temple-giggle-laugh-gif-5118563

[pearl elk]

Im not sure there are many parts in an engine which arnt vital 🙂

[deep copper]

true 🤣

but like, it's a big chunk of it

[pearl elk]

yeah you dont just go and mess with engine balancing of components like conrods

you can mess with injectors, over and under size no worries

[deep copper]

will it explode 🤔

[deep copper]

you did say it only ran a block and a half

[pearl elk]

weak metal conrods can tear the engine apart from the inside

[deep copper]

so it DOES explode??

[pearl elk]

the carbon fiber ones just delaminated and pulled apart, bit like plastic

[deep copper]

that's quite, heartbreaking

if it broke you mean

[pearl elk]

they only replaced 2 conrods of 4 luckily, so they probably got it back on 2 cylinders

https://assets.whichcar.com.au/image/upload/s--NxN29BKM--/c_fill,g_auto,h_833,w_1350/v1/archive/whichcar/2020/03/13/Misc/Barra-MX5-damage-close-(1)

here we go, this is a metal conrod failure lol

[deep copper]

that looks, horrifying

[pearl elk]

thats pretty clean tbh 😂

[deep copper]

😨

[pearl elk]

stock cars shouldnt do this if youre running them on recommended fuels

[deep copper]

wait they can if you arent?

[pearl elk]

lol if you put a wet NOS system on expect worse than this

[deep copper]

what about electric cars though? they shouldn't have this right

[pearl elk]

they did a 100 shot of NOS on a VW as a joke on one YT channel I was watching

it spat the gearbox out

[deep copper]

:/

brutal

[pearl elk]

electric cars still have mechanical components, Id be more worried about popping the lithium cells

[deep copper]

😭 why is it all so fragile

[pearl elk]

but electric could still shred gear teeth, universal joints etc

thats why performance electric tend to go direct drive

[deep copper]

"direct drive"?

[pearl elk]

the engine is directly on the wheel hub vs connected via a shaft

[deep copper]

so less middleman?

[pearl elk]

yeah less places for mechanical stress

as I like to call them possible points of failure

[atomic hedge]

Hey guys, a bit of a side question, but do you have idea where I can buy windows 10 activation key?

[deep copper]

why don't normal fuel cars have that then?

[pearl elk]

I suppose you could make little engines and put them closer to the wheels but its not ideal. That sort of thing is easier done with electric

[deep copper]

If you don't have a digital license or a product key, you can purchase a Windows 10 digital license after installation finishes. Here's how:

Select the Start  button.

Select Settings  > Update & Security   > Activation  .

Select Go to Store.

This opens the Microsoft Store app where you can purchase a Windows 10 digital license.

is this of any help?

[pearl elk]

it wouldnt have actually been possible to sync up engines until more recently with improved ECUs anyways

[deep copper]

ah, bigger size, i see i see

[cursive crypt]

Stores which sells PC parts usually have.

[deep copper]

oh yeah, those issues are more apparent in older toys too

[pearl elk]

yeah electric are easy with just wires, no fuel worries

[atomic hedge]

but here they offer me a complete OS

and Im looking just for activation key

[pearl elk]

believe it or not in the early days of motor vehicles electric were actually ahead, they were faster, easier to use because old engines needed cranking, were unreliable etc

no computers though 🙂

[trail wedge]

AFAIK Microsoft will still upgrade a pirated version of 7/8 to a legit version of 10 for free

even though they said that program would end a few years back

[deep copper]

then why did they not came in use? more power in oil?

[celest musk]

mechanical engines need the transmission in between

which kinda converts high rpm to torque

[pearl elk]

batteries were pretty shite for ages

[deep copper]

don't both have plenty mechanical parts?

[deep copper]

ah right...

[celest musk]

no

a electrical engine has some bearings and a shaft, thats pretty much the mechanical parts ok, apparently modern eletrical car engines are a bit more complex

an mechanical... don't get me started

[pearl elk]

that and materials tech, those early days it was basically electric carts but once they got into making big steel sedans batteries wernt good enough. Now we can make larger cars alot lighter with alloys

[cursive crypt]

Errm... are you a pirate? There is no difference between buying a complete OS and activation key.

Like, the key is on the USB say with the OS.

So, if you decide, you don't install it. Just use the key.

[pearl elk]

aluminium car parts are so annoying for aftermarket guys they usually just avoid it all together lol

but Tesla stamps most the car out of it

[deep copper]

oh yeah, that does make sense, everything was bulky before so they probably needed more power with least weight of fuel

[pearl elk]

carbon is too expensive for large production numbers, there are a few manufacturers who make most the car out of it though

[deep copper]

what do they use then?

[pearl elk]

fiberglass is cheaper or steel

abs plastic is used alot on stock vehicles, some aftermarket parts you can get in plastic

[deep copper]

carbon and fiber"glass" really don't sound strong like metal to me, maybe i am stereotyping materials by their names ... 😅

plastic...

[pearl elk]

well the sheet metal isnt the strength of the car anyway, its the structural steel that is but carbon can be very strong when done right. Fiberglass is really just used because its easy to work with and light, Corvettes have been made out of it for awhile but its not as nice fitment as steel since steel keeps its shape better

[celest musk]

while alot of things are structural these days, even the windshield is structural part of the body (on a lot of cars)

[deep copper]

science really works like magic

[verbal junco]

it's our world's magic

[celest musk]

some say it's physics

some say it's magic

[pearl elk]

glass is heavy which is why it can be prime real estate for race cars, those have cages though so structure isnt overly important

[verbal junco]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's_three_laws #3

[celest musk]

and glass is unnecessary dangerous for racecars 😄

[pearl elk]

even things you wouldnt expect like paint and sound deadening can add alot of weight

[deep copper]

funny but true laws

[pearl elk]

raw carbon is light as but not very UV resistant, same with polycarb but theyve made some headway with protective coatings

[celest musk]

nah, paint is like 15-20kg max

[deep copper]

so a car with no paint actually makes a difference..

[celest musk]

~5l primer, ~5l basecoat, ~5l clear coat for a middle sized car

[pearl elk]

lol Ive seen entire carbon bodies which weight 15-20kg

[celest musk]

but i really wonder why fiberglass isn't used more for fenders and such

pretty much all the body parts which aren't structural or could touch the ground

[pearl elk]

abs is easier to mould

in terms of tooling though fiberglass isnt more expensive

[celest musk]

well abs is also better for bumpers as it isn't as hard as fiberglass

so if you bump into something, abs can deform

fiberglass would tend more to break

[pearl elk]

I think thats why they like it, it deforms so you can just deform it back where fiberglass needs filler and repair. Though arguably fiberglass is easier to repair

[celest musk]

ABS is pretty easy to repair, too

[pearl elk]

could be easier just to get a new plastic one

[celest musk]

you can kind of weld ABS

[pearl elk]

yeah weld and fuse it depending

there are glues which melt abs and you can fuse it together without seams

I used to do that for a living funnily enough, we made caravan parts

[celest musk]

neat, when i messed with that stuff i wasn't aware of any glues 😭

and had to use a hot gun

and a big solder iron 😄

that was quite messy tho

and probably toxic af 😄

[pearl elk]

I think the benefit of fiberglass is if you screw up you just sand it back add gel coat and voila

where plastic can go bad if you over work it

[celest musk]

yea

[pearl elk]

acrylic polishes up nice, abs not so much

I miss the tools I had access to at the plastics workshop, vac formers are very cool

[celest musk]

but you need molds tho

[pearl elk]

thats what the 5 axis CNC machine was for 🙂

[celest musk]

do you just make a negative with the original part before?

well, that works on easy shapes...

but complex shapes like car body parts?!

[pearl elk]

yup

[celest musk]

what are the molds made of? aluminium?

[pearl elk]

there were even trimming programs when the part was formed it would go back to the 5 axis and it would trim the edges

nah, MDF, plastics and other hardners

the force of the vac form pull was always considered, a few times the mould pulled off from stress

[celest musk]

yea but lets say you want to make fender mold, you don't do that on the CNC unless you got somehow access on the original construction files

[zinc matrix]

I somewhat see it, but the Mandarin is still a great foil to Iron Man because Iron Man represents the best parts of American capitalism whereas Mandarin represents the worst parts of Chinese dictatorship

[pearl elk]

well these days you laser scan the original, can use photogrammetry to build a model or just redraw it

[zinc matrix]

You talking about 3d printing?

[celest musk]

3d printing for adults 😛

CNC

[pearl elk]

1:1 scale

[celest musk]

with materials that don't break when you look at them from the wrong angle

[pearl elk]

https://media.techeblog.com/images/3d-printed-lego-go-kart.jpg

[zinc matrix]

oh yeah, how fast these are?

[pearl elk]

I think it was 24mph off the top of my head, its on the toobs

[zinc matrix]

a healthy race!

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L68S2PYDC44

[zinc matrix]

30mph

in real units 48 kmh

[celest musk]

pretty cool project

[pearl elk]

does pretty well since its 3d printed

[celest musk]

i'm surprised that it's that stable

[pearl elk]

its bolted together lol

[celest musk]

wonder if there's some kind of support hidden between front/back wheels

https://deepdreams.stavros.io/ 😄

One day Jack looked at his beans eagerly, but he found each bean had turned into a mouse; and down in the corner of each vine there was a nest of little mice. Then his mother began crying over the poor results of their planting, though Jack did all he could to comfort her.

[zinc matrix]

oh man reminds me of this clip: https://youtu.be/ehuGtleLz6U?t=125

[zinc matrix]

Sounds like Jack was high on something other than a beanstalk

[celest musk]

yea that story escalates a bit

i stopped when the bean stalk bent over

[zinc matrix]

Now I'd like to climb that

[thick belfry]

Yeah it is but it is quite indepth like if you wanna make and OS you first need to make other stuff (or license it) like a video player or whatever

Or you wanna make the software for consoles so you can dominate it with your own games

But you have to start off small taking jobs in your garage

You do have a player character

In a sense

[foggy path]

tbh sounds like most of these are heavily inspired by Game Dev Tycoon :D

which feels like it was one of the first if not the first one of this type

[thick belfry]

Like in the end its a tycoon game but it does it with some smart design making you feel like you grew the company from a one man business

Oh man yeah I love that game

This game I found through a search of similar games lol

Similar to game dev tycoob

This does feel like the mature version of that game

[verbal junco]

poor doggo

[thick belfry]

I bet you'd love it

I'm gonna play it again lol

Just read they released into beta

Oh BTW @deep copper I got the interview for college

[deep copper]

yay! but what interview exactly? you mean the game got debugged ?

[cursive crypt]

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2022/record-broken-hubble-spots-farthest-star-ever-seen

[zinc matrix]

Neat

The only star I don't wanna see is Keemstar

[thick belfry]

I applied and got through preselection

Now I'm up for an interview

Official selection baby 😎

No more of that "pre"-nonsense

We in the game

Now I just need to get selected

[deep copper]

ohhh!

congratulations !!!

[verbal junco]

so selection before selection

🤔

what is this for even

[thick belfry]

They get a lot of applicants

I'm applying for a study program

Creative media and gaming technologies

[deep copper]

so what now

[verbal junco]

which is the pre selection for entering the games industry 😂

[thick belfry]

I have to make a 5 minute presentation and then they'll ask questions

[deep copper]

presentation on your game?

[thick belfry]

Yeah they have a 85% job in desired fields within 2 years so it's a good bet on a solid start atleast

Don't have much of a game dev community where I'm currently living anyways

[verbal junco]

which country

[thick belfry]

I'm going to go because i wanna be around people with similar ambitions and get collab experience

Netherlands

But not in a heavily populated area myself

Just a small city

[celest musk]

is there much going on beside of amsterdam maybe?

blender has their head quarter there iirc

[thick belfry]

I want to study in Breda which has this school, and there's another game program in utrecht

There's some national indie groups

Who organise events

But its mainly in the randstad

[fathom wadi]

Blender only has half of their headquarters there. The rest are on the blender marketplace :p

[celest musk]

utrecht is pretty close to amsterdam tho

while it's probably way cheaper to live in utrecht 😄

[thick belfry]

Rent prices are nuts in pretty much every city atm here

We have a 1 million house shortage

And we are only like 19 million people

[deep copper]

that's a lot of missing houses

[thick belfry]

In Amsterdam you can pay 700 for 8 Square metres

That's 86 square feet according to google

[deep copper]

700.. what currency?

[thick belfry]

Euros

[deep copper]

and per month?

[thick belfry]

Yes

[celest musk]

and probably cold

no heat + electricity

[thick belfry]

Well for 700 I'd hope heating and electricity would be included but still

[deep copper]

that's, not good

[thick belfry]

You'd probably pay a maintenance fee tho

[deep copper]

blender headquarters might be in trouble

[thick belfry]

It's worse case

[celest musk]

well 8m² probably don't need much heating anyways 😄

[thick belfry]

But I've seen listings like that more than once

Tuition is pretty cheap though

[celest musk]

yea, also looked at some point, but honestly it's a privilege to live there

[thick belfry]

Relatively speaking

[thick belfry]

Nah they get that fund money

[celest musk]

also you pay tourist prices in restaurants etc.

[deep copper]

so purchase is not even an option i assume

[thick belfry]

Amsterdam is not worth it

Honestly the city isn't even all that great

[celest musk]

its not bad either in my experience

[thick belfry]

I'll return to maastricht if I ever get the chance 😎

[celest musk]

they have a good infrastructure with the tram

[deep copper]

have you been there Ben?

[celest musk]

yea

but i can't remember in detail, because... well 😄

[thick belfry]

Didn't say it was, just not worth the money imo

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/it-be-like-that-sometimes-like-that-sometimes-snoop-dogg-sometimes-just-like-it-gif-12501830

[thick belfry]

My grandpa lived in Amsterdam all his life so I was there often, he had one of them old rental contracts so he lived quite cheaply there

Then it'd definitely be worth it

[deep copper]

value for money rn is not good basically, otherwise, generally it's nice

right?

[celest musk]

it's not bad

but its way too expensive

everything

netherlands has alot of cozy towns which offer the same for a better price

from a tourist point of view

[thick belfry]

Amsterdam is like Disney world

[celest musk]

disney world for stoners 😄

[thick belfry]

There's a bunch of other attraction parks like it that offer the same experience but with way less tourists

[deep glen]

generally its flat rent, minus heating and electricity

[thick belfry]

If it's a room not apartment/studio it's often included

But else yes, flat rent

[verbal junco]

I wish I could pay 700 for rent 😭

[worldly sapphire]

Is Netherlands housing prices still going bonkers?

[cursive crypt]

Are you poor? I will never marry you.

[verbal junco]

well I got a job

so probably not poor

I have above $1/day

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/cartoons-fox-poor-gif-10729250

[fleet tangle]

Oh man, that's a blast from the past.

Fucking Robin Hood!

[cursive crypt]

I dunno if he had a wife.

[fleet tangle]

He married maid Marrion. Obv!

[verbal junco]

I dunno what all this talk about spouses is

and marriage

[cursive crypt]

It is a side quest.

[verbal junco]

anyway I was commenting on the housing prices in the UK being too high

[cursive crypt]

"Earth is 98% full, please delete anybody you can"

That was the signature of a dude back in the days of mIRC.

[foggy path]

Signature?

Quit message you mean?

also who even quit irc, my client just runs on a server

[cursive crypt]

Not everyone was such a nerd. Sometimes people took a break.

I was keeping my chat logs for long time. I have no f clue what I was talking about.

f... I even still remember my icq number and password. Haven't checked that in few decades.

[foggy path]

lol

I was wondering about my icq number at some point

but I can't remember any of that

[verbal junco]

I did ever since discord

icq lol

I remember the update that came out where you could no longer press enter to fire off teh chat msg

[foggy path]

icq was the very first IM/chat type thing I used I think

before that just email

[verbal junco]

I never really used it

just text messages really

[foggy path]

I was probably like 10 or 11 at the time so I have no recollection lol

[cursive crypt]

What I loved about ICQ (apart from that message sound) was that you had a cool profile where you can say your interests and info.

Discord can't match this.

And you were able to find friends based on that.

[foggy path]

Oh yeah it did have something like that

If they made it today you would probably just have to swipe left or right based on the user's profile picture

[whole jasper]

Hello. For Unreal Engine C++, is it recommended to use VScode? If not, what other possible solutions (not VS) ?

[fleet tangle]

Rider or VS

[whole jasper]

I didn't know Rider, I'll find out. Thank you

[verbal junco]

I'm sure that's still info being peddled around a server somewhere

[cursive crypt]

I hope.

[verbal junco]

I always wonder how people find their way to #lounge with these questions

[cursive crypt]

Was thinking at some point to check out whether it still exist.

[verbal junco]

I mean someone is having dirt on you

from back then

[cursive crypt]

Meh... Most memorable thing was my crush back then.

[fleet tangle]

I just missed out on having a 7-digit ICQ number. 😦

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, was kinda UCN

[foggy path]

I had a 4 digit steam id but I can't even brag with that nowadays because games no longer show or use that format

[fleet tangle]

Heh

[verbal junco]

someone offered me $100 bucks to buy my steam ID

[verbal junco]

it still does?

[foggy path]

well yes it still exists but there's no games which really show that in any way, because even the games that do display steam id's use the more modern format instead of the old STEAM_0:0:1234 format

[verbal junco]

hmm maybe we're not talking about the same thing

[foggy path]

no idea :)

[verbal junco]

community IDs?

[foggy path]

https://www.steamidfinder.com/lookup/zomgzomg/

steamID is the original format used by steam

they introduced the other formats later

[verbal junco]

oh yeah it is

that

no nevermind

steam id is the first line

I only got into steam around hl2

[cursive crypt]

Hmm... what was my 1st game there 🤔

[verbal junco]

counterstrike?

[cursive crypt]

Nah.. pirated

Yeah, I just saw. Trine, lol

Playing with bro.

At the same time I received some weird gift. Witcher 2, I haven't found anybody to give it away.

[cursive crypt]

In fact, no, haven't. I played CS in computer clubs.

For example, there was one old house next to school.
Some uncle turned his basement into one.

Gosh, I miss computer clubs.

Especially the night shifts, lol

[verbal junco]

well I think most people got CS because most people got steam for HL2

[cursive crypt]

There was no Steam at these clubs.

It was mostly a local network.

So, you were able to yell at your buds over the next room say.

[verbal junco]

I mean yeah but we were talking about the first steam game lol

[verbal junco]

interesting

so you must have gotten steam quite late

[foggy path]

I got steam on day 1 for the first steam game... CS

:D

[deep copper]

is zomg flexing their 18 yo steam account?

[foggy path]

gotta flex what i got

[deep copper]

tbf, the fact that steam is 18+ years old, still feels weird to me

[foggy path]

lol

[verbal junco]

almost 20 years

[deep copper]

ancient relic

[verbal junco]

older than you? 🤔

[deep copper]

nope

[verbal junco]

about the same age then 😂

[dark sequoia]

el o el

[deep copper]

le o le

[cursive crypt]

2014

As I said, it was different time before that.

[verbal junco]

wow yeah that's 10 years after me

[deep copper]

older than you? 🤔

[quasi mantle]

I wasn't even born yet when HL came out lemao

And I only play HL1 "by accident"

(Back then CS was HL1 mod, so many copies of it were together with vanilla HL1, minus some assets)

It's somehow playable from start to finish

[verbal junco]

how could it be?

[deep copper]

chance chance

[cursive crypt]

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/bruce-willis-retiring-acting-apashia-1235219017/
:/

[deep copper]

looks familiar

[verbal junco]

0%

[deep copper]

long time no see, ce

[verbal junco]

I mean how could I be younger than my steam account

[deep copper]

how's your depression rn?

[deep copper]

someone else pre registered it for you... or something?

[verbal junco]

one may even say "long time no ce"

[deep copper]

so i was running out of CE energy, do you want to help recharge it? you are the only one that can do it!

[quasi mantle]

Build a CEnergy already, you two 😏

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/nah-im-good-no-thanks-nuh-uh-nope-gif-15253690

[foggy path]

Have you ever thought about how annoyingly complicated something as simple as a door is as an actor

[verbal junco]

a timeline?

[foggy path]

Okay so you want it to open when interacted with, ok easy peasy, just slide it to a direction. Okay you also want it to not open unless some item exists, ok np. But then.. you want it to open in a different style for a different door... right so you'll add some support for it to move into different positions based on configuration

[deep copper]

just keep them always open, for everyone, and, everything <3

[foggy path]

Now you realized you sometimes want to have double doors...

A naive idea might be to just put two doors side by side and have them open into opposite directions... but that won't work if you want them both to open at the same time from interacting with either one

:P

[deep copper]

doors are complex irl too

locks, opening area, hinge maintenance

and then other stoper or whatever those accesories are

[foggy path]

Imagine if unreal supported nested actors properly instead of that mess that is child actor component... that would perhaps help a bit with the double doors sitch

[verbal junco]

doors are like the fundamental game design challenge

because of all the cases you have to think of

you also can't really design it like you would a real door

[cursive crypt]

Doors are prized as hard to make in a game.

[verbal junco]

with just 1 push and pull direction

both directions need to push

[deep copper]

anyone got any good knock knock jokes for this?

[quasi mantle]

Don't get me started as something as simple as wearing/taking off clothes

I still don't know how mad animators at ND managed to pull that off in Last Of Us 2

[cursive crypt]

Doors are next level tho

[deep copper]

doors can be the way to next level yeah

[quasi mantle]

Literally

[foggy path]

Wearing and taking off clothes is easy compared to doors!

Just enable/disable mesh

:D

[green current]

If anything is impossible to pull off, bake it and it isn't anymore :)

[deep copper]

clothes will be possible to pull off then ;D

[quasi mantle]

I just don't know how they presim it in DCC tool ngl

[quasi mantle]

I'm bored with playing two drums and a cymbal already lol

[deep copper]

play me <3

[verbal junco]

can you help me bake the millenium challenge pls

[quasi mantle]

Not here.

[verbal junco]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennium_Prize_Problems

I'll give you 10% of the prize money

[solid hull]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rz-23wS05Pg
Six.

[deep copper]

it's like a math problem with a bounty, if the mathematicians couldn't do it, i won't even bother looking at that. 😔

[solid hull]

This has been my experience with basically any simple, common thing in games ever

[deep copper]

"unreality is often disappointing"

[verbal junco]

but they said if something seems impossible you can just bake it?? 😔

I have a quest of getting $1 million dollars, how can I bake that quest?

[deep copper]

step 1#
🫂 me

[quasi mantle]

It's disappointing because you can't feel touch of your waifu

[green current]

Some of those problems are knowingly brute forcible or fuzzable, which is entirely the point of baking an impossible problem to do in real time

[deep copper]

it's more disappointing when your hug doesn't touch me 😔

[quasi mantle]

If this is a sci-fi, one could probe the nerve system and trick the finger to feel touch something

[verbal junco]

let me bake math problems 😔

[quasi mantle]

Or maybe trick the nose to smell an artificial scent

[green current]

We use magic numbers for that all the time

[verbal junco]

I heard yesterday was indonesias national film day

or today? 🤔

[deep copper]

sounds good

[green current]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root

[quasi mantle]

Even in real math?

[green current]

Baked math

[quasi mantle]

The context was real academic math I think lol

[deep copper]

i am bad at cooking

[quasi mantle]

I don't know
I'm not much of a film buff lol

Heck, I rarely go to cinema

[deep copper]

gotta save space to remember waifu bday

[quasi mantle]

Except few times when I watch anime movies

[quasi mantle]

Heehee

But I still can make Unreal renders ;)

[deep copper]

bake your waifus 💪

[quasi mantle]

aka bootlegging with 3D printing

Yeah nah, I don't trust 3D printing to print more complex anime figurines

[deep copper]

it can probably print them bigger

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, the sanding would be a chore lol

Considering how 3D printing is done, those ugly stripe textures have to be sanded away

[deep copper]

ugh that sounds trouble

then there's probably going to be some assembling work too

[quasi mantle]

Also I think PLA is less heat resistant than PVC, which used for most anime figurines

[deep copper]

so you if you bake them they melt?

[quasi mantle]

Well, it's easier to melt PLA prints than PVC

[deep copper]

then, the figures better not be too hot

[quasi mantle]

But my waifu is hot tho 😳

[deep copper]

not as hot and warm as you though <3

technically

[verbal junco]

millenium problems are a rabbit hole

so in order to understand yang mills existence gap you have to first understand gauge theory

which is

In physics, a gauge theory is a type of field theory in which the Lagrangian (and hence the dynamics of the system itself) does not change (is invariant) under local transformations according to certain smooth families of operations (Lie groups).

which begs the question, what is a Lie group:

In mathematics, a Lie group (pronounced /liː/ "Lee") is a group that is also a differentiable manifold.

which begs the question, what is a manifold:

A manifold is a space that locally resembles Euclidean space

I thought I could get like a 10 min youtube video explaining it

the shortest video I've found is like an hour

[zinc matrix]

Man I'm fed up with my job

So tedious

Only pays $30k a year

Meanwhile everyone here is like a tech genius making at least $60k

[quasi mantle]

Dude, I can hardly complain with that rate income

$2500/mo is huge to me

[zinc matrix]

Yeah, but you're Indonesian where the money is valued less

[unreal ether]

Also depends on your experience level if youre a junior that aint bad

[quasi mantle]

I can hardly complain when I only have $250/mo and have money to pay bills and eat food

[green current]

I've seen some students enter the games industry at $15 an hour, really low for skilled labor sadly

[unreal ether]

Especially here where juniors are somewhere around 25k

[quasi mantle]

I guess depends on who you ask

[green current]

Well mostly depending on cost of living

[quasi mantle]

$15/hour could be already huge for me, being living in a third world country

[green current]

That's living out of your van or with 5 roommates pay in big cities

In the US

[zinc matrix]

Whatever

I find this job unfulfilling

I'm selling lawn care

It's not like I'm actually helping anyone

[quasi mantle]

In Indonesia, $2500/mo can buy you more expensive rent house, pay many bills, eat fancy foods, and still have few to save for luxury

[unreal ether]

What like a door to door salesman type thing?

[quasi mantle]

Hence why that number is huge for me

[zinc matrix]

Sometimes, but it's mostly cold calling

[unreal ether]

Ah

[quasi mantle]

Average income was around $150-200 a month, give or take a few, and that's enough for buying less expensive food and rent, and pay bills, but barely any to save

[zinc matrix]

Either way, everyone here is a fucking programming genius and I have a barely average IQ

I'm poor and stupid

Not a good combo

[quasi mantle]

That number may be low for first world country inhabitants, yes, I'm fully knowing it, but for me and third world country inhabitants, that number is the norm, and in some cases slightly higher.

[zinc matrix]

Fucking hate my life

Fucking hate this world

[quasi mantle]

$2500/mo is huge in my eyes

[zinc matrix]

Yeah, but that's irrelevant to me because the cost of living here is higher

Also again

I'm stupid

Everyone here is a genius

[quasi mantle]

Except I'm a wasted genius

[zinc matrix]

No you're not

You're making a game and farther than me

It's not like you're Walter White or anything

[quasi mantle]

Except what, as of now, I self fund my game, all by myself, with daytime job that has barely anything to do with gamedev, and only small amount to spare from monthly income

[zinc matrix]

Well hey

At least you're not me

[quasi mantle]

Even then I still make almost everything in the game by myself

Out of necessity

[zinc matrix]

Yeah I get it; you're smarter and more dedicated than me

God I fucking hate coding

I'm gonna have to learn hard coding for this game dev college course

I just know I'm gonna suck

[quasi mantle]

Honestly if I had the money, I'd rather take a backseat and just do the directing work and tackle the technical side of things.

[zinc matrix]

Python was a nightmare

Coding is hell

[quasi mantle]

I learned doing VFX and animation kind of out of necessity

[zinc matrix]

Idk how you guys can do it without wanting to blow your brains out

[quasi mantle]

Trust me, I want to blow my brains so many times

Not to mention looking at others who have privilege on higher budget and create way cooler things than I am

Just now I'm in the verge of giving up entirely

I accidentally rambled on #graphics

[zinc matrix]

Maybe use your skills for medicine somehow, idk

[quasi mantle]

I just can't hold myself to talk about it, given that I come from less professional content creation

[quasi mantle]

I may like chemistry, but I ain't pharmacist

[zinc matrix]

You're a chemist too?

[quasi mantle]

No

I'm just a wasted genius living a poor life

[zinc matrix]

How is your genius wasted?

[quasi mantle]

I don't work for more paying job in proper game industry, and I don't have the equipment to do remote work.

It would be too foolish of me to expect a gaming PC given for free for use in development lol

[zinc matrix]

Hey at least you're a genius

[zinc matrix]

I fucking hate this parasitic economy

[quasi mantle]

When the daytime job, my only source of income for now, barely has anything to do with it? Nah.

[zinc matrix]

Get in line, pal

[quasi mantle]

Not to mention I don't have showable redeeming quality for even a fricking Patreon, let alone going for crowdfunding

The least I want to see myself is being an online beggar

[zinc matrix]

Sometimes you gotta humble yourself

Plus, recently I barely wanna work on my game after coming home from work

But I guess that's just me being lazy

[quasi mantle]

I'm not inclined to think I can use my poor living condition as an excuse to beg for a free gaming PC for development.

I'd hit a new low if I do that

[zinc matrix]

Well fine, but you may be making it harder than needed

[quasi mantle]

I just don't know how

[zinc matrix]

Neither do I

I'm working on my game mostly alone and learning on the skin of my ass

I have to force myself to do the dry-ass boring courses to learn the fundamentals

[wraith magnet]

just have a general question for any of y'all who've used Blender & Maya
is Maya hard to learn, as a Blender main? I'm considering learning it just for the sake of having more job opportunities

[quasi mantle]

I'm not expecting miracle either

Hence why I basically become my own generalist out of necessity

[zinc matrix]

if you aim at industry, Maya for sure

All while juggling a tedious job and an online college course

[quasi mantle]

Blender is way easier

But I'm sure people who have more money will contest that

[zinc matrix]

I dread when it's time for the programming class

I'm gonna suck ass

[quasi mantle]

I'm thinking of giving up from this industry level content creation

The bar is just getting higher

Even more so, from third world country perspective

[zinc matrix]

May be a good choice, man

[verbal junco]

what do you do for a dayjob @quasi mantle

[zinc matrix]

You could move to Borneo and work at an orangutan sanctuary

The babies are really cute

Might be therapeutic for you

[quasi mantle]

Doing graphic design, it doesn't pay much

[zinc matrix]

i seconded what strivvy typed

https://youtu.be/jcSev8AQd0A

[zinc matrix]

Thanks

i would commit suicide if was not for my period hitchhiking without a destination, hungry on the road

[quasi mantle]

I can't afford moving across island.

[verbal junco]

how much are you able to save each month, if anything?

[zinc matrix]

Damn...well if you could, go be a surrogate Dad for baby orangutans

[quasi mantle]

$10/mo, probably less

[verbal junco]

😔

[zinc matrix]

Jeez, that sucks, man

[quasi mantle]

Most of the income went into paying the bills and buying essentials like food

[zinc matrix]

Yeah, the world sucks

[zinc matrix]

do you eat meat?

[quasi mantle]

Sometimes, I bought chickens for half a kilo, but that's pretty much it. I don't bought beef.

Or any expensive seafood, really

[verbal junco]

so just rice and chicken?

[quasi mantle]

Rice, eggs, and veggies

[zinc matrix]

maybe take the calculation of eggs and chicken vs. beans

@quasi mantle is there any way you could get to Borneo or Sumatra? Maybe have relatives there?

idk how pleasure goes into eating those, but it can save a bit of money over time

[quasi mantle]

Not at all

[zinc matrix]

Dang

Still if you can, I recommend caring for baby orangutans

[quasi mantle]

All of my relatives are in the Java island

[verbal junco]

would Jakarta pay better? or the new capital?

[quasi mantle]

And I try not to rely on them

[zinc matrix]

Idk how much it pays, but it seems really fulfilling

[quasi mantle]

Doubt Jakarta would pay any better

Not to mention the city problems, but that's like a portion of the consideration

[verbal junco]

how difficult would it be to emigrate to australia?

[zinc matrix]

@quasi mantle sometimes when they rescue babies, they let them be named, so what would you name one?

[quasi mantle]

Probably difficult, since I have no visa and passport. Even though I'm fully vaccinated by now

Not to mention I don't have enough money to fund the moving

[zinc matrix]

Man, you're in a pickle

[quasi mantle]

Consider that I'm not a uni graduate (I didn't take any uni at all, due to lack of funding)

It pretty much limit my option to go abroad

[zinc matrix]

Man you got it rough

Well

[quasi mantle]

I wish I could, but only wish by now.

[zinc matrix]

Idk man, maybe just take a break

Just pay your bills, so what you need to survive and just veg out and play some games

[quasi mantle]

I wish lol. I can't buy new games lol

[zinc matrix]

I would say you can do what you desire if you have the will, but our system is bent on keeping us down

[zinc matrix]

just pirate them

[quasi mantle]

I'm way past that point

[zinc matrix]

do not feel guilty for that

[zinc matrix]

why? do you think North America and European people developing games are thinking in third world countries user in general?

[quasi mantle]

I can't anymore. Especially now that I'm doing gamedev by my own myself

[zinc matrix]

if you make money pay them later

[quasi mantle]

That's what I kept telling to myself, and honestly as a developer I'd allow that.

But also considering I'm unable to buy better hardware, it's just going to cost my internet connection

[zinc matrix]

@quasi mantle even if you don't have orangutans around you, are there any nearby animal shelters you can volunteer at? That might help

[zinc matrix]

well, you can run Unreal Engine

i bet you can play good titles

[quasi mantle]

Not that I'm aware of.

[zinc matrix]

materpieces exist since Atari age (even older actually)

[quasi mantle]

Well, consider that I tried so hard to get UE working in lower scalability.
And even then I can't get 30 FPS at all times

Struggling with 20 FPS or less is more common, and that's the side of the story I always reluctant to tell

[zinc matrix]

Man you really have a lot on your plate

[zinc matrix]

have you tried Godot?

[quasi mantle]

Yes, and I don't like it

I doubt I'll get any more productive with godot than I am with Unreal

[zinc matrix]

Dude, we don't have all the answers now, just take a month off and avoid as much stressful shit as you can

[quasi mantle]

Even though I forced myself and Unreal to work on lower end hardware

[quasi mantle]

I can't take break, I need to keep doing it so that the bigger guys don't cringe at my work

Even if it means pushing my potato computer to near boiling point

[zinc matrix]

just slow-motion yourself

it is about your life afterall

[zinc matrix]

Dude, no, with that attitude you're just setting yourself up for more burnout and fatigue, you're only human

[quasi mantle]

Begging for free gaming PC online just felt wrong to me, even though some people actually get it

[zinc matrix]

exactly, and considering that you are young, do you understand how do you behave after a burnout and having this mentality?

[zinc matrix]

You need to let go of your ego a bit

[zinc matrix]

it is the first steps to blow-up yourself,

If you want to achieve your goals, be practical

take care Hoodie

[quasi mantle]

At least the less serious space of content creation still embrace low budget creations, and that's where I was (and still am) belong to

[zinc matrix]

serious? society in general is pretty dumb

a lot of people are working their ass out for some rich owner company make what they will never make in 2 lifetimes

[quasi mantle]

I mean spaces like fanmade creations

[zinc matrix]

in the entertainment industry?

it feels a joke how software people work

[quasi mantle]

I had good times interacting with them more than this space, which is going for the industry standard

But I guess that's instance of echo chamber

[zinc matrix]

today i woke up with a crisis of getting a normal job and do game dev. as a hobby thing

as the movement of ditching Unreal and going for Godot for ethical purposes

[zinc matrix]

Welcome to my world

Sometimes I just wanna kill myself when I think of all the pressure of my life

[quasi mantle]

Even with Unreal Engine being free, there's another barrier of entry

And at times it felt hopeless for me

[zinc matrix]

@quasi mantle you ever feel like that?

[quasi mantle]

Maybe too often

[zinc matrix]

my suggestion is to deal very peacefully with this type of thought

it can build up later

[zinc matrix]

Well I mean...are you willing to go through with it?

people kill themselves after the 40s, after the 50s

and i tell you that because i had major problem with depression and suicide from my 14 to my 20s

and i had it all under my hood

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, even if I'm in the urge of giving up so often by now

[zinc matrix]

@quasi mantle not that I'm saying you should, but please don't

[deep glen]

what you just said if heavily against discord TOS.

heavily and severely

[quasi mantle]

As in going through whatever shit goes in life

[zinc matrix]

I didn't say he should, I was just worried

But fine

[zinc matrix]

hardware you mean?

[quasi mantle]

That, and barrier of skill

I felt like with my potato, I can't just make good portfolio compared to competitors

[zinc matrix]

@quasi mantle if I donated $100 to you would that help?

[quasi mantle]

Which is why I haven't worked in the game industry.

[zinc matrix]

yeah, it may feel difficult to compete with grad students, that is why you should think in alternative art style?

i mean, the majority of industry is pushing real world graphics or very polished things

but the indie market is growing a lot too

[subtle hatch]

If you are having suicidal thoughts help is always available

I hope to not hear anything about killing myself even as a thought

[zinc matrix]

Fine

[quasi mantle]

I dunno, It's fine if you still have a living after letting go of that hundred quids, but I don't want you to have no savings because of me

[quasi mantle]

Except locally there's barely any help line lol

Many of the local effort were now dumbed down to just giving seminars

[zinc matrix]

hey take it easy

the chat there is in another level

if you feel really depressed now you can DM

me

[zinc matrix]

If you accept my friend request, I can link you a mental health discord

But yeah

The world sucks

[fathom wadi]

Jordan Peterson is good for mental health when you feel depressed and stressed about your life. He's got some good psychological studies and opinions regarding why you should always carry on and why life is worth it no matter how bad things are.

[subtle hatch]

I been reading a lot on multiple religion even in the Quran those who takes their own life goes to hell forever and has their suicide in this world repeated there

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, except there's barely anyone in the industry who does anime style games.

Maybe yes in Japan, but I had language barrier

[quasi mantle]

I know full well of this.

[zinc matrix]

can you get into some english ; Japanese server?

i felt i could recruit a bunch of kids in a English practicing one