Wow, this is the will of life ๐ช
#lounge
cursive crypt
ancient ingot
@deep glen miss me?
deep copper
Luos is too busy making egg jokes
ancient ingot
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deep copper
and occasionally sniping nitro scams
ancient ingot
oh he loves doing that
deep copper
how have you been doing?
ancient ingot
better now, was having a bit of a rough time medically but all good, ready to start some dev shiznat
you ?
deep copper
ah, glad to know you are fine now
soft night
deep copper
all good here as well,
ancient ingot
so whats the consensus on UE5 atm?
deep copper
so whats the consensus on UE5 atm?
nanite is being abused
zinc matrix
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ancient ingot
i feared that would happen
deep copper
and people are waiting for official ue5 release so bugs go away
ancient ingot
ye thats not gonna happen for a while
deep copper
i haven't been to #ue5-general much but that's all what trickled down to #lounge about ue5
ancient ingot
seems to be what was being said a couple of months back so nothing much has changed it seems
deep copper
yup, no big news so far
neat sluice
people aren't optimizing meshes anymore
i don't understand how quickly people jump ships from one software to next ๐ค
deep copper
iirc
ancient ingot
im happy on 4.27 unless i REALLY need world partition which i dont
deep copper
if you are in a hurry, 4.27 is the way to go, from what i have heard
it's rather stable
ancient ingot
ye i like 4.27 it's not crashed for a long time at least ๐คฃ
neat sluice
im happy on 4.27 unless i REALLY need world partition which i dont
i'm on 4.26 and don't plan to change anytime soon
I already have more than enough in this version
ancient ingot
I wouldnt move if i was on 4.26, im starting a new project and its not engine intensive so im happy to jump to 4.27, but UE5 .. hell no ๐
deep copper
UE5 is a risky one unless it's officially released, and a few stable versions are out
unreal ether
The not optimizing meshes is a frustrating one for me. Just because you can add an extra 300k polys to your nice neat door, doesnt mean you should
ancient ingot
i think its fine for the big studios who have in house engine devs that can fix stuff
ancient ingot
The not optimizing meshes is a frustrating one for me. Just because you can add ...
I have been hammering that home to people since Nanite was first announced but it still falls on deaf ears
unreal ether
The only argument i have heard is maybe its time to chamge the standard modelling practices
No, no it isnt
ancient ingot
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unreal ether
Theres a reason weve been followuing the same practices since the 90s
ancient ingot
if it aint broke....
unreal ether
And people are thinking its absolutely fine if every mesh has 100k polys just cause it runs fine with 1 engine
Its all fun and games until your indie platformer is 200gb
Anyway rant over
ancient ingot
that's the main thing, just because SSD's are cheap now, doesnt mean people want to fill them with 1 indie game because the devs want to use nanite for no reason ๐ก
ancient ingot
there is that tiny issue to ๐คฃ
imagine a few ps5 games using nanite, thats the ssd full
unreal ether
Plus people are gonna start tryina release asset packs with millions of polys
ancient ingot
oh please no, i hope the MP team can do something about that ๐
unreal ether
Its not even hard to optimise, thats the frustrating thing
unborn lotus
I want to make some packs for UE5 but I can't think of anything good for nanite unless it's rocks ๐
unreal ether
Most cases mesh reduce will do it
Delete back faces
Or just bake your super high poly onto something low poly
Easy
But nooooooo cause nanite magic
ancient ingot
but people hate easy which is fked up tbh lol
neat sluice
Its not even hard to optimise, thats the frustrating thing
One thing I've seen quite a few people do with Nanite is they just drag and drop assets from Megascans, make a quick render and present it as their 'work'.
The Unreal Engine subreddit is mostly filled with such content
unreal ether
My arguement has been always, if you domt wanna put the work in, then dint do gamedev
ancient ingot
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ancient ingot
One thing I've seen quite a few people do with Nanite is they just drag and drop...
is that even legal? ๐
unreal ether
One thing I've seen quite a few people do with Nanite is they just drag and drop...
Yeah i love megascans but its more bad practices
I downloaded a tree there once
And it was a gigabyte
ancient ingot
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neat sluice
is that even legal? ๐
By 'work' I didn't mean legality, they just post it for Upvotes on the subreddit.
Also it's perfectly legal to use Megascans in your projects as long as they're used in Unreal
ancient ingot
ahh okies got ya i misunderstood
unreal ether
If i wanted to make my entire project from megascans im looking at like 150gb
For the project
neat sluice
With Epic releasing Megascans, Quixel Mixer, etc. It's getting easier to create photorealistic graphics
Don't get me wrong, it still takes work to get it 'right' but it's definitely easier than in the past
neat sluice
And it was a gigabyte
I only use megascans for textures, never the 3D Assets, lol
As soon as I see the poly count, my OCD kicks in, it can be done in a lot less polygons than that
ancient ingot
150GB on Git or Perforce, yeah good luck with that ๐
unreal ether
No algorithm is that good yet
neat sluice
Also, As a solo hobbyist developer, I am never going to need that high quality photorealistic asset in my game. Most indie games are stylized, simple graphics
unreal ether
People make an entire scene with megascabs assets tjen wonder why the editor is 3fps
Made a forest once with megascans, ignoring that the project was like 20gb, my editor ran on 3fps
ancient ingot
jesus
unreal ether
Pretty much
ancient ingot
megascans + rtx + vol clouds = ๐ฅ
left granite
megascans + rtx + vol clouds = ๐ฅ
- lumen
ancient ingot
oh yeah + lumen ๐คฆ
neat sluice
(somewhat) surprising thing is, despite all the cutting edge technology and megascans, mixer etc. that the Unreal ecosystem has, Unity still trumps Unreal over total market share
unreal ether
I think its because unity has been available longer
And has better community support n stuff
Plus unity has brackeys which is a big win
ancient ingot
also i think unity is "friendlier" to new devs ?
unreal ether
Nah id defo say ue4 id
verbal junco
also i think unity is "friendlier" to new devs ?
by offering them no tools at all ๐
ancient ingot
yup lol
neat sluice
Plus unity has brackeys which is a big win
Unreal also has Matthew Wadstein
But yeah, it is probably because Unity was the first engine to have a free version
ancient ingot
ive never used it or looked in to it so i have no idea whats available off the bat
unreal ether
Very true
unreal ether
ive never used it or looked in to it so i have no idea whats available off the b...
Not a lot
You need to install a package just for 2d lighting
Its crazy
ancient ingot
๐ฎ wth
unreal ether
Although i am quite enjoying using it for this uni project
neat sluice
You need to install a package just for 2d lighting
From what I've read, Unity is kinda going for a modular approach, where you get the 'base' editor and then install any packages you need, like Lighitng, Post Processing, UI, etc.
ancient ingot
they get no PP either?
left granite
also i think unity is "friendlier" to new devs ?
NOPE
ancient ingot
well thats just stupid
unreal ether
Post processing might come under universal render pipelome which is a package
left granite
i wanted to quite life cuz of unity
neat sluice
by offering them no tools at all ๐
Actually, there might be too many tools ๐
and none of them are complete
Unity has,
Three different rendering pipelines
Two different Input Systems,
Two different Particle Systems,
Two different UI Systems,
Then there's either the Gameobject based system or the ECS system
verbal junco
Actually, there might be too many tools ๐
and none of them are complete
Unity h...
they didn't have a level editor until they integrated protools
neat sluice
Gameobject uses ECS tho?
idk, I didn't use it to know it well
But iirc, Gameobjects is what Unity uses since the beginning, But with ECS they're trying to go Data Based.
ECS system has their own api, different than gameobjects
verbal junco
which is a big yikes
neat sluice
But don't quote me on this
unreal ether
Ah
neat sluice
If I had to compare it with Unreal, it would be something like Instanced Static Meshes, but for Actors
more than half the plugins in Unity are experimental
It's kind of been a thing with them, where they're adding new features before they complete the previous ones
and the Tutorials are a fricking mess because of that
unreal ether
Its like me making a game lmao
neat sluice
and the Tutorials are a fricking mess because of that
The tutorial scene is a mix of Unity 5, Unity 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021
Each version having slightly different way of doing the same thing
unreal ether
I was following a brackeys tut for 2d lighting, and got lightweight rp installed, then i needed to make a lightweight rp pipeline object. Which didnt exist, figured it oit in the end
neat sluice
they didn't have a level editor until they integrated protools
they also bought Bolt iirc which is similar to BPs
cursive crypt
If it says ECS then it must be a superb design.
broken sigil
Plus nanite cant even run on old hardware
Nanite can run on pretty prehistoric hw at this point
Also nanite should be used for everything that supports it since it scale up much much better plus other tech in ue5 like vsm performs much better with nanite meshes
Also using Nanite doesn't magically increase the size of meshes on disk, pretty sure it's quite the opposite
Nanite is not only meant for super high poly stuff
unreal ether
Nanite is good, im saying it isnt an excuse to have terrible models
Nanite doesnt make it any more reasonable to have like a 300k poly door
But theres no need to
Just because nanite exists and works, doesnt mean we should forget mesh optimisation
Again, just cause you can, doesnt mean you should
broken sigil
Sounds like unity alright
neat sluice
They have HDRP though
and URP
and also the In-Built rendering pipeline ๐คทโโ๏ธ
LWRP was renamed to URP iirc
verbal junco
and yet you still have these diehard unity fans who are scaremongering people away from UE despite everything
left granite
you guys know more about unity than unreal
neat sluice
They have HDRP though
and URP
and also the In-Built rendering pipeline ๐คทโโ๏ธ
The general consesus is,
HDRP is for High Quality Graphics
URP is for 'regular graphics'??
and they are planning to remove in-built in the future
neat sluice
you guys know more about unity than unreal
I'm an Ex-Unity user, so๐คทโโ๏ธ
unreal ether
Im a new unity user
Used it for a few weeks in 2018, then for 3 days last week
It not tha bad
neat sluice
unreal ether
Im kinda enjoying it i dare say
timber viper
At least I heard Unity version of R1der works better than UE one
neat sluice
It not tha bad
It's a good engine, especially for Smaller/medium games
left granite
flat
timber viper
Hot Reload works in Unity
unreal ether
No i mean the errors you get with the engine source
unreal ether
Hot Reload works in Unity
Thats cause unity has its own compiler built in
proud jay
lol Keychron is having a sale, was about to buy new keyboard, $27 shipping, yeah no thank you, guess no new keyboard for me
unreal ether
Lmaoooooo
neat sluice
Yeah, but it's still not at Unity's level
Also Branding works in favour of Unity
If you read around on the Internet, Unity is like THE Indie Engine
proud jay
apparently
proud jay
Yeah, but it's still not at Unity's level
Also Branding works in favour of Unity...
if you want to make garbage or mobile games yes
unreal ether
Godot is cool. I like godot
neat sluice
I actually think it harms them more than it does good
unreal ether
Plus godot is like 20mb
timber viper
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unreal ether
Ikr
neat sluice
I actually think it harms them more than it does good
Most of the games made with Free Version of Unity are obviously made by Newcomers, so they aren't as good.
And as Unity forces the Free users to show their splashscreen, Audiences automatically know everytime a bad game comes out with Unity
On the other hand, when someone serious actually uses Unity Pro and makes a good game, they choose to remove the Splashscreen so the audience doesn't get to know that a good game was made with Unity
neat sluice
Most of the games made with Free Version of Unity are obviously made by Newcomer...
This has created somewhat of a stigma around the Unity Free Splash screen where 'some' people think that a game is low quality as soon as they see that splash screen
neat sluice
if you want to make garbage or mobile games yes
90% of games are garbage, sure, But there are some good games too
unreal ether
Easy solution, just import the exe into premiere pro and cut out the splash screen ๐คฏ
neat sluice
They might sue you then ๐
unreal ether
Easy just take the court case into premier pro and cut out the lawsuit
Im untouchable
neat sluice
Easy just take the court case into premier pro and cut out the lawsuit
a better solution would be to use UE, which I do. No mandatory splash screen ๐
having said that, I would gladly put a UE splashscreen at the start of my game (If I ever finish one)
unreal ether
Same
proud jay
I think the unity splash is no longer mandatory either these days
unreal ether
Unless im making a stealtj cryptominer, in which case i shall use the name of another company ๐
neat sluice
I think the unity splash is no longer mandatory either these days
I think it's still there
unreal ether
The biggest thing tjat pissed me off about unity is that you used to have to pay for dark mode
neat sluice
I have to get permission to display a UE Splash screen?
didn't know that
what If I don't show a splashscreen?
unreal ether
I think they have a version of tue logo you can use for free iirc
gloomy pulsar
tbf they don't exactly follow it up, but technically yes you do need perms to use the UE branding
deep copper
Its not even hard to optimise, thats the frustrating thing
it's actually hard me to imagine how you can even end up with such huge poly count. i have seen meshes that look 100 poly but have 100k+, how, how do you even, do that?
unreal ether
Ah mb then
neat sluice
It's kinda sad If the only motivation for people to get Unity Pro is dark mode and removal of Splash screen
unreal ether
Was quite a while ago when i looked into it
neat sluice
ah, well
deep copper
whows thwat?
ocean parcel
a tranvestite
ocean parcel
and a evil clown
neat sluice
btw Epic merged Unreal Answers with Forums
And there's a 'Knowledge Base' now
Which sounds cool
ocean parcel
i hope so
deep copper
i heard it happened, but people have hosted archives
or perhaps that was for something else that was ancient ๐ค
idk my epic games history knowledge isn't all that reliable
worldly sapphire
Am I showing my age and phpBB background, or are Discourse forums more difficult to navigate
verbal junco
what is a discourse forum?
cursive crypt
the new ue forum
verbal junco
so servers for discord and forums for discourse ๐ค
worldly sapphire
Yep confusign huh
deep copper
is that by epic games or pfist?
timber viper
r/InclusiveOr
cursive crypt
so servers for discord and forums for discourse ๐ค
wut
timber viper
Imagine this discord server was being managed Epic community team
I could not resist more than one week
deep copper
what...? was that what pfist was working on then?
timber viper
Both could happen at once I guess
foggy path
Well that's fun, apparently the forward vector for paper sprites is actually Y and not X because of course why not..
timber viper
Imagine this discord server was being managed Epic community team
"A modern place for #cpp! We migrated #blueprint and #cpp into single channel!"
And destroyed old messages ๐
deep copper
"A modern place for <#221799439008923648>! We migrated <#221798862938046464> and...
with #lounge you mean?
it's kinda redundant rn anyway
timber viper
with <#221796616653373441> you mean?
worldly sapphire
Well that's fun, apparently the forward vector for paper sprites is actually Y a...
foggy path
Yeah well at least Z is still up for them lol
worldly sapphire
I think there's a inconsistency with skeletons and characters as well
verbal junco
Well that's fun, apparently the forward vector for paper sprites is actually Y a...
because it's relative to camera forward, which is +x
foggy path
Yeah I noticed the thing with skeletal meshes on characters as well, but I always figured it could have been my incompetency in importing them that rotated them to face Y lol
cursive crypt
What is that? Lego block? ๐ค
foggy path
What is that? Lego block? ๐ค
Pistol ammo clip from Doom :D
worldly sapphire
It's just placeholder art for stuff we don't have custom stuff for :P
Good idea haha, immediately recognisable
deep copper
"because you can, doesn't means you should"
foggy path
we do have some custom artwork too
deep copper
quite a bright one
foggy path
Yeah it's the lights in the test level, it's not quite that bright really
deep copper
but it's really nice
cursive crypt
That some hires pixel art
foggy path
probably because it's made from a photo :D
deep copper
do you animate them with a sequence of pics/vids as well?
foggy path
yeah using paper flipbooks
worldly sapphire
Yeah that caught me off when trying to fix a skeleton+character issue
"I'm doing everything just like Epic did, why won't this work"
foggy path
Must be some reason for them to be facing Y :P
deep copper
yeah using paper flipbooks
that's really a nice workflow
deep copper
"I'm doing everything just like Epic did, why won't this work"
"Y won't this work"*
foggy path
it's a bit of work to set it all up but yeah it works pretty well
verbal junco
dare I say that this is for the same reason: everything started from a sidescroller perspective
worldly sapphire
"Y won't this work"*
No
cursive crypt
At the beginning, everything was 2D
verbal junco
At the beginning, everything was 2D
sure, everythin was 0D
cursive crypt
... it is a bible start.
verbal junco
then came one direction, the band
the resolution race needs to die
people talking about 8k and 16k as if it matters at that point
you have more detail than the human eye can pay attention to
foggy path
I think it would only matter if you have some ridiculously large monitor ๐ค
worldly sapphire
Has 1440P even become the defacto standard yet
foggy path
I feel like 4K is more than you'd need on a monitor that's under 30" already
cursive crypt
I have found 160 dpi @ 1m to be on the edge of human eyes. No point of more.
foggy path
I have two 27" 1440p screens which are pretty sharp already
cursive crypt
165 dpi is 4k 27"
foggy path
Chugging along them is my old HP ZR24w which has a weird 1920x1200 resolution
Probably nearly 10 years old if not more at this point, what a great monitor that one has been
meanwhile my more expensive Acer monitor is already showing minor signs of wear :P
verbal junco
people want to push it because it's an easy sell to schmucks
worldly sapphire
1920x1200 is the superior resolution to 1920x1080
cursive crypt
vga or bust
verbal junco
when I did 1080p I was still watching youtube in 360p without issue
with 1440p I do 720p
foggy path
I can kinda tell 1080p vs 720p on the 1440p monitors
Makes no discernible difference on my macbook which I think has a 15" screen though :P
verbal junco
I can kinda tell 1080p vs 720p on the 1440p monitors
yeah but really, does it matter?
is it so bad you cannot enjoy 720p?
foggy path
Depends on what you're watching I guess
I watch some really bad quality VHS rip movies and that's fine
cursive crypt
I remember still going from 480p anime to 720p.... was like going from 2d to 3d.
foggy path
But if I could get them in crisper quality I wouldn't complain
cursive crypt
Hey, are these VHS dubbed? Back to the past, these were so fun.
Especially, when dubbed by someone from the province, lmao
foggy path
even watching something like OpenXCOM lets plays on YT I kinda prefer 1080p over 720p
The pixel art is just a little bit more crisp on 1080p which makes it more enjoyable to watch
But for some other game it probably wouldn't matter so much, with pixel art it's just kinda noticeable I guess
deep copper
i only go higher than 360p if there's some really small text in video, maybe because I don't watch anything full screen on pc
unborn lotus
@deep copper I can't watch anything full screen, getting a 42 inch monitor was a mistake ๐
deep copper
my monitor is also quite huge, i forgot its size but i have to turn my head to look at the corners
verbal junco
a colleague of mine has one of those ultrawides
and it just seems a massive pain to work with
unborn lotus
it's quite good for work, but 1080p and 1440p don't look so good
stuff like netflix streaming too
deep copper
i can understand why multiple screens might be better than a single screen, for arrangment, and maintaining ratio
verbal junco
so tbh I think 27" is the limit for me
deep copper
single huge* screen i mean
ocean parcel
whoa Putin is 69. How is he turning 70 this year!? he looks like maybe early 50's.
unborn lotus
I think I'll get two dualup monitors when they are out
deep copper
whoa Putin is 69. How is he turning 70 this year!? he looks like maybe early 50'...
yeah he is also some black belt karate
verbal junco
I think I'll get two dualup monitors when they are out
looks like a pain ergonomically
unborn lotus
looks like a pain ergonomically
I already have two 25 inch screens on an arm, one on top of another, it's great
deep copper
I think I'll get two dualup monitors when they are out
probably a lot more useful
unborn lotus
now with two of these it'll be much easier
deep copper
unfortunately i work a bit more close to the pc, or too far
unborn lotus
than I'll have the equivalent of 4 + 2 + 2 normal screens ๐
deep copper
than I'll have the equivalent of 4 + 2 + 2 normal screens ๐
if they didn't have any borders you could also stack them some modular manner
deep copper
that would be like some spaceship thingy, with screens for various stuff all around
foggy path
but I need a bigger desk ๐ฌ
Get some monitor arms, they can float the monitors off the sides lol
I have a pretty big desk but it's not big enough for 2x27 and 24 monitors but it works fine with monitor arms lol
verbal junco
I used to thnk I needed 3 monitors
but 2 is perfect
3 is decadent
I'm waiting for the day when monitors become obsolete as head mounted displays become the norm for apps
cursive crypt
cries in 1
unborn lotus
I remember when I was trying to work with 2 monitors...the horror
cursive crypt
I prefer one big tho.
Saves me the trouble of SW issues.
Let me run the calc.exe
verbal junco
I code and 2 is fine ๐ฅฒ
cursive crypt
1.7777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777777
floating point exception
verbal junco
cursive crypt
supermum
deep copper
suppermum
cursive crypt
Why is even there a dedicated wiki page.
I have too few registers to compute that.
Custom one
Mathematicians going high
charred rapids
Ah yeah that Bertrand Russell guy
verbal junco
gentlepeople, take a look at the beautiful village of La||cock||: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSjJVRH6wY
cursive crypt
You needed that spoiler, huh
unborn lotus
reminds me of our local politicians doing maths to avoid having 10 councilmen
verbal junco
riemann?
deep copper
"Ramanujan Summation" i think
verbal junco
"Ramanujan Summation" i think
so you're a mathematician ๐ค
deep copper
as per google
verbal junco
here I thought you were a carpenter
deep copper
no i am not, i just searched 1+2+3 = -1/12
ocean parcel
1+2+3 = 123 obvs
deep copper
the way to prove that equation is also quite bizarre btw
verbal junco
Imagine spending years to prove 1+1=2
imagine imagining numbers because you don't have enough with positive and negative infinites
charred rapids
i'd never do that
solid hull
Some people aren't even satisfied with countable infinity ๐
deep copper
i mean, there's a whole discussion about existence and stuff so 1+1 sounds valid
charred rapids
That's what happens when mathematicians design a programming language
deep copper
question the fundamentals to cheat perhaps
soft night
what if you are breed with chemistry and physics with mathemician
verbal junco
the irony is that imaginary numbers probably aren't even necessary, it's just the fact that they are cyclical that is something we needed in math
but then again negative areas exist, so who am I to talk
solid hull
what if you are breed with chemistry and physics with mathemician
Well, then you get the atom bomb
deep copper
they just made up stuff so they can solve a few questions and create way more question because new stuff poopped up
popped*
soft night
Well, then you get the atom bomb
sure, its so simple in function
thick belfry
deep copper
have fun
charred rapids
That's actually pretty cool
ocean parcel
i can i can.
but it is irrelevant as sherlock holmes might say.
like the sun going around the moon.
deep copper
talking about math > small talk, as people have to pay more attention
and having more attention from others = โค๏ธ
timber viper
Talking about math is also causing a natural selection for people who dont even know calculate sin and cos
verbal junco
I just managed to make food again
verbal junco
Talking about math is also causing a natural selection for people who dont even ...
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deep copper
I just managed to make food again
you make it sound like some kind of phenomenon out of your control xD
verbal junco
it's a positive surprise
I had a bunch of things that were about to go off
but I made them work together
deep copper
"go off"?
verbal junco
Talking about math is also causing a natural selection for people who dont even ...
I don't know how to actually do this without lookup tables
deep copper
running out of items?
deep copper
ah
verbal junco
่ ๆฝ
ocean parcel
decay
timber viper
I don't know how to actually do this without lookup tables
I dont know either. I always slept at high school
deep copper
yes yes i understand decay ๐
ocean parcel
I dont know either. I always slept at high school
didn't you have another place to go to?
timber viper
yes yes i understand decay ๐
If you didnt understand, its decay btw
timber viper
didn't you have another place to go to?
No, they didnt let me go home
deep copper
If you didnt understand, its decay btw
rottening of food
ocean parcel
:(
verbal junco
No, they didnt let me go home
are you in prison?
timber viper
Arent schools some kind of prison already since based on laws you must study high school or you can not graduate
verbal junco
Arent schools some kind of prison already since based on laws you must study hig...
I thought you were in your 20s... what kind of school?
timber viper
Well, I call it slavery personally.
Eh, government doesnt benefit from my education so its not slavery here
timber viper
I thought you were in your 20s... what kind of school?
It 'was', I already graduated ๐
timber viper
Yeah, its been 3 years or so. Thanks ๐ฅณ
ocean parcel
life gets worse when you leave, i wish i was at school. XD
timber viper
I cant argue that
deep copper
Yeah, its been 3 years or so. Thanks ๐ฅณ
you make that sound like you were a drug addict and are no more for 3 years or something
timber viper
I cant argue that
But I rather keep working with UE instead of being at school for 8 hours each day tbh
verbal junco
real life starts after school and it only gets worse
ocean parcel
But I rather keep working with UE instead of being at school for 8 hours each da...
you got a job?
timber viper
you make that sound like you were a drug addict and are no more for 3 years or s...
I dont know, school gave me very less good things and took a lot of time
ocean parcel
or you mean indepdentnely?
timber viper
you got a job?
Time to time I freelance for indie studios and develop my own project
ocean parcel
Ah yes that's basically what I'm doing now.
After having had many jobs I've realised that there's no point to life and so I just do my own thing now (working on ue).
And if that fails I'll just eat my seeds.
deep copper
i thought you had a gardening hobby
ocean parcel
oh no, i hate gardening. my dad has an allotment.
i don't see the point of buying seeds and the nplanting thme and then waiting like 7 years to get a cucumber.
timber viper
After having had many jobs I've realised that there's no point to life and so I ...
After releasing my game I'm hoping to study Aerospace Engineering somewhere, if I had more money earlier I would never get into game development tbh
Its too risky, and a big hassle
deep copper
i don't see the point of buying seeds and the nplanting thme and then waiting li...
and if you don't water one day it's dead
deep copper
yup, and also, insects
deep copper
Its too risky, and a big hassle
agreed
ocean parcel
After releasing my game I'm hoping to study Aerospace Engineering somewhere, if ...
how much money do you need?
deep copper
After releasing my game I'm hoping to study Aerospace Engineering somewhere, if ...
aerospace huh, we were talking about planes this morning and helicopters
ocean parcel
and maths
timber viper
how much money do you need?
I guess around 70k$ to study 4 years
deep copper
https://tenor.com/view/wasp-insect-gif-22724739
looks like it has an itching problem
timber viper
aerospace huh, we were talking about planes this morning and helicopters
I like planes and helicopters too but my main interest is rockets and missiles
timber viper
That's what most of the universities require to study 4 years and live at another country
deep copper
I like planes and helicopters too but my main interest is rockets and missiles
blast in space huh
timber viper
Where do you live?
ocean parcel
UK
timber viper
I researched UK universities a lot and many of them asked ~25k$ for single year ๐ But I'm coming from outside of EU (I live in Turkey) so probably it's because of that
timber viper
Which country is that? ๐
verbal junco
After releasing my game I'm hoping to study Aerospace Engineering somewhere, if ...
all the good people leave ๐ฅฒ
timber viper
all the good people leave ๐ฅฒ
I need to earn that beer first ๐
It is* not but success numbers of released games are also not high ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Only %1 of the games succeed
deep copper
you can also just make assets only, earn while the making process happens then leave
but you seem to have an interest in missiles and rockets so, go for it
timber viper
Well no, both industries are one of the most difficult ones compared to their equivalents
deep copper
that one which jumps, it's quite, cute
verbal junco
no tanks
deep copper
now that cute tank looks painful... thanks
o? jump for me a lil <3
๐คฃ can't help it
desert mural
will Epic Games Store will block russians players?
timber viper
Since VISA and Mastercard blocked they probably wont be able to purchase thing that easily I guess
desert mural
but isnt free?
ah you can purchase games also ok
I thought it was totally free games mb
so they can still play free game on epic games store?
nice\
verbal junco
are you russian and worried?
timber viper
so they can still play free game on epic games store?
If they have a 3rd option to buy games they are able to make purchases
timber viper
They even beat Turkish economy
We are not most poor terribly managed European country now ๐
deep copper
1 usd = 14.38 Turkish lira
deep copper
there there
verbal junco
We are not most ~~poor~~ terribly managed European country now ๐
asia minor* country 
but you have the best food
or one of the best cuisines
timber viper
asia minor* country <:kappa:230139910307315712>
Arabs calll me European,
Europeans call me Arab
Russia calls me "NATO member"
NATO members call me "Russian friend"
Guess who I am ๐
timber viper
.. ๐
verbal junco
give me your food and I'll call you whatever you want to be called
could also call turkey the southern borderland
or the hittite land of origin
timber viper
could also call turkey the southern borderland
That's a nato approach, defining Turkey really relies on who you are or what you want from it ๐
verbal junco
That's a nato approach, defining Turkey really relies on who you are or what you...
it's sort of a weird take but ukraine means borderland
and it is to the north
turkey is to the south and of similar size...
and function
verbal junco
home of ayran
timber viper
home of ayran
Very few European friends of mine likes ayran
They get shocked when I try to explain "its just a milk but with salt" ๐
timber viper
It's not on sale somewhere?
verbal junco
rarely
timber viper
Oh, let me know if you ever visit Turkey then ๐
timber viper
give me your food and I'll call you whatever you want to be called
I'll make your desires happen
verbal junco
yet to try authentic turkish iskender
zinc matrix
holy shit two spam calls in under a minute what the hell
night grove
holy shit two spam calls in under a minute what the hell
Would you like to buy an extended warranty for your car?
night grove
https://c.tenor.com/pL2bnrSBsZkAAAAM/nooo.gif
I once got a call for that when I had just traded in my old vehicle and had a brand new one.
I'm like... no if I wanted the extended warranty I would have bought it 2 days ago.
zinc matrix
No joke once i was stranded on a desert island and I found a bottle with message inside of it which said "we'd like to speak to you about your cars extended warranty"
I threw that bottle back into the ocean and cried
ocean parcel
hi guys
what are you guys talking about
O.M.G!
Raymond Cripps is in this server!?
harsh crypt
yet to try authentic turkish iskender
also Caฤ kebab, Baklava, Lahmacun, Aลure, Gรผllaรง
Caฤ kebab best of for me
harsh crypt
They even beat Turkish economy
If we can bring a new president with the elections in 2023, I think the country's economy will go from mild to good.
timber viper
If we can bring a new president with the elections in 2023, I think the country'...
I banned myself from talking politics about my own county ๐
harsh crypt
I banned myself from talking politics about my own county ๐
very right decision :D
verbal junco
also Caฤ kebab, Baklava, Lahmacun, Aลure, Gรผllaรง
cag is what?
I've tried most of those
just not in turkey ๐
baklava is too sweet for me
verbal junco
lahmancun is basically pizza right?
timber viper
Haha no ๐
verbal junco
or I guess pide might be closer?
verbal junco
I'm a big fan of meze
verbal junco
raki is the alcohol?
timber viper
I get drunk on 6th glass, but some people get barely drunk on 15th glass
I dont understand those people ๐
left granite
quasi mantle
anyone here use FL studio?
Yes, but mainly just for generating sound.
I prefer doing the composing in OpenMPT or Schism Tracker
I never able to get used to piano roll interface fml
ocean parcel
for real!? :D the piano roll is the only thing I've been able to get in with FL Studio! XD
I know how to use a piano. :) (so it's the only thing that's familiar to me) but I don't know how to compose. everything I do sounds awful....
zinc matrix
Turkish version of Ouzo -- only a slight difference but worth a try
isn't it popular in the balkans too?
harsh crypt
cag is what?
zinc matrix
(would make sense because former ottoman lands)
harsh crypt
quasi mantle
for real!? :D the piano roll is the only thing I've been able to get in with FL ...
Yeah, for real.
I used trackers for longer than piano roll. Jotting down the notes in vertical progression is easier to me. Maybe it's because my demoscene fascinations.
Trackers were (and still are) hugely common in the demoscene.
verbal junco
isn't that normal kebab that is shaved off? or is it a special version?
harsh crypt
this is not normal kebab
ocean parcel
Trackers were (and still are) hugely common in the demoscene.
Ahh I see.
harsh crypt
this is best of the all kebabs
timber viper
this is best of the all kebabs
Dude, its night out there. Dont make me hungry lol
quasi mantle
It's morning already and I should've taken some breakfast
timber viper
isn't it popular in the balkans too?
Yeah, probably at balkans you can see both ouzo and raki on the markets
harsh crypt
Dude, its night out there. Dont make me hungry lol
:D
quasi mantle
Want to devour all of those meat ๐ญ
verbal junco
I think it's going to be hard to beat iskender, but I'm always willing to try
timber viper
I think it's going to be hard to beat iskender, but I'm always willing to try
Try Lokma Kebab
It will deffo beat iskender
harsh crypt
I think it's going to be hard to beat iskender, but I'm always willing to try
If you are going to try cag kebab, you should go to Erzurum, you will get the best taste there.
verbal junco
but what is cag?
harsh crypt
:D
quasi mantle
Imagine going to turkey just to order kebabs
verbal junco
Try Lokma Kebab
I've had this before, it was good too. it's similar
harsh crypt
Gullac?
timber viper
but what is cag?
It does not have a very specific meaning
verbal junco
Imagine going to turkey just to order kebabs
you'd have a great time
harsh crypt
verbal junco
germany has great kebabs because of turkish people
I can only imagine that they are even better in turkey
timber viper
germany has great kebabs because of turkish people
Even better, you can just eat them for 3โฌ or so in Turkey
timber viper
Germany probably is more expensive
zinc matrix
It's not that hard to find a turkish place here
verbal junco
3 euro gets you the smallest kebab in germany ๐ข
zinc matrix
should look around sometime
timber viper
Posting those images at night is just evil ๐
harsh crypt
Turkish game developers do not participate in foreign servers much.
timber viper
Because they only able to make hyper casual games
harsh crypt
Posting those images at night is just evil ๐
forgive me bro :D
zinc matrix
Turkish game developers do not participate in foreign servers much.
I saw one post in #volunteer-projects that was pretty much a full-time job from turkey
harsh crypt
Because they only able to make hyper casual games
yes
harsh crypt
Turks are at a very good level in the mobile game industry.
timber viper
I actually thought that lokma was called beyti
Beyti is slightly different version of it
Less sauce I guess
verbal junco
ah
yeah you gotta have the sauce
looking at the menu for a local turkish place
is yogurtlu kuzu shish something that would be good?
harsh crypt
yes
verbal junco
I will try that on friday then ๐
timber viper
Bon appetit ๐
harsh crypt
I think I need to order something :D
timber viper
Me too
zinc matrix
timber viper
Thats why I'm complaining to Gealt ๐
harsh crypt
:D :D
harsh crypt
it's midnight over here
same
zinc matrix
it isn't #lounge if there isn't a conversation between someone from every time-zone to exist
harsh crypt
Tekirdag
timber viper
Nice
harsh crypt
you?
timber viper
Eskisehir
harsh crypt
Nice
I'm thinking of moving to Eskisehir in the future.
A very good place with a good atmosphere.
timber viper
Nice place if you are student, otherwise its almost small as a village
zinc matrix
I forget that a lot of those islands on the west of turkey are actually greek XD
timber viper
Yeah Twelve Islands belong to Greece
verbal junco
what's young people in turkey's impression of greece and greek people?
timber viper
I think majority of the people (including me) love Greek people but since there is a border friction happening over those islands and since both of our governments suck we're having some problems
zinc matrix
So pretty much just an issue between old leaders?
timber viper
No, I dont like getting political on the web but since 200 years Greek people and Turkish people was never able to get along well together
Most of the issues was about land desires
regal pecan
rivalries should be friendly, not greedy
verbal junco
at least they are not as brutal as in asia
timber viper
๐
verbal junco
still gonna have a heart attack most likely
timber viper
You cant find everything about Turkish food at Germany though
zinc matrix
idk where you live exactly, but surely it can't be that hard to find a delicious kebab in your vicinity
verbal junco
I do have a turkish nearby that does a decent (not the best I've had) iskender
they have great meat
but they always skimp on the sauce and yoghurt
๐
zinc matrix
Why yes, hopefully the meat is butchered somewhat locally 
night grove
Random tangent, where does the Alex icon / meme come from?
I've seen it on Reddit as well
verbal junco
he's on the server
night grove
Does he work for Epic?
timber viper
Hi Alex ๐
pearl elk
I havent watched the UE streams in ages ๐ฆ
timber viper
Nice, you saved yourself from boring talks and some brain damage
And completely wrong infos
pearl elk
the last ones I watched were the Lumen and Nanite ones
timber viper
Eh, those ones are quite nice. But replication ones are completely false and wrong ๐
pearl elk
I liked those cuz its deeper content, not those oh heres how you make a movie in 15 mins
night grove
I've found several UE streams that have been good
At least for getting a start with various UE systems
Not necessarily how I would do it in the finished product
timber viper
Recent ones, chunkdownloader, latest AI stream are good ones I found
zinc matrix
timber viper
Recent ones, chunkdownloader, latest AI stream are good ones I found
I even saw one Epic guy almost sleeping on stream ๐
zinc matrix
It's not a christmas stream if Sweeney doesn't have a burger king cup
pearl elk
apparently people are making alot of money from streaming themselves sleeping, makes sense Epic would be on trend
night grove
Wait what?
How do I do this
I would probably have to be hot and female
No I mean the make money by streaming stupid content like me sleeping
Oh...
:sadface:
timber viper
Where is that place?
pearl elk
step 1: be famous, step 2: profit
you have to be a someone for people to want to watch you sleep
maybe start off with some light asmr, then work your way to instajam then lonely hams
night grove
So is the streamer or the viewer the creepy one?
Watching someone sleep sounds creepy af
pearl elk
maybe thats your angle
verbal junco
who names a place this
pearl elk
put the camera outside your window
timber viper
How boring lol
zinc matrix
night grove
Or is the stream positioned as someone that "accidentally" left it running when doing private stuff?
timber viper
How boring lol
Woah she started to laugh while sleeping
pearl elk
weebs are everywhere, theyre taking over the world
I cant go anywhere without overhearing anime debates
verbal junco
speaking of weebs, I think I identified ||cralpi||'s new handle
timber viper
Thats the problem of majority of the people then
verbal junco
||#career-chat message||
||check the bio of the poster|| ๐ต๏ธ
zinc matrix
there's a town called kentucky, another called texas
and they're in australia
nice
pearl elk
night grove
https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-krang-now-for-a-new-game-time-for-a-new-game-new-gam...
Woah what is that from?
Looks like the brain from TMNT
pearl elk
yup thats Krang
harsh crypt
ninja turtles
regal pecan
If weebs have a bad reputation, it's because of fan service.
verbal junco
||I know right, makes everything seem so covert||
pearl elk
all this talk of fan service and not one weeb ever came to service my fans ๐ฆ
verbal junco
||secret discord tech nobody knows about|| ๐
pearl elk
Shaun of the Weebs
verbal junco
I think weebs have had a bad rep because of how incessant they are
not because of what anime is
pearl elk
tiktok is like 98.9% fan service
verbal junco
but nowadays practically everyone is a weeb
night grove
||secret discord tech nobody knows about|| ๐
||Why did you make me look this up?||
pearl elk
the missing percentage is cuz of the Russia block ๐
verbal junco
||Why did you make me look this up?||
||your fault for peeking at a private conversation||
night grove
||your fault for peeking at a private conversation||
||Spoiler!||
pearl elk
I used to own a NES... before Nintendo was cool. Now I cant talk about it cuz they yell "ok boomer" at me
just cuz I dunno what a damn Pokemans is
night grove
Most boomers wouldn't know how to use a NES though
Cue debate on how to properly blow out the cart
pearl elk
screw Dark Souls, youre dead to me if you havent beat Bart vs The Space Mutants
night grove
I'd completely forgotten how ridiculously difficult the Simpsons games were on the old consoles
night grove
Isn't that just Rule 34?
pearl elk
I was carrying a spare towel long before the internet
regal pecan
The rare concept of non-porn fan service.
Probably not so rare in the automobile "fandom".
pearl elk
lol are you sure about that
the 3/4 view isnt for the car in the background ๐
I like big drifts and I cannot lie
this is so cool, why no UE ๐ฆ
regal pecan
This tool is fantastic for making monotonous environments with clear gameplay issues for people who enjoy hand-tailoring their assets for their tools.
pearl elk
have you used UnrealEd lately?
hand-tailoring micro polys is not ftw
quality of the render is directly proportional to the quality of the assets used in the kitbash ๐
regal pecan
shh don't reveal the secrets
pearl elk
soon they'll work out they can charge you per virtual asset so if you want to use the tree 100 times its going to cost 99 times more than a single tree
regal pecan
Video of a car exhaust when the engine is revving ought to be a form of fan service.
pearl elk
15 gear changes for a 4 speed manual ๐
oooooh baby, hit that nos
speaking of cars, I need to go hack mine to bits with a dremel
regal pecan
UE fan service: When the shaders finish compiling.
pearl elk
Unreal Alexander shirtless in a wading pool ๐
its a tutorial on water caustics ofcoarse
regal pecan
See, this is why community manager is a cursed position.
pearl elk
cant alt+f4 out of that one
but this is why they never make Monso a mod, I cant be trusted ๐
it is odd to me though thinking back to the BUF days, how few of us there are left that are active in the larger UE community. I never pictured myself here, was too busy being an annoying youngster
night grove
https://twitter.com/anastasiaopara/status/1500023226428239875
That's really cool. I should learn how to leverage compute shaders in UE
pearl elk
I remember it was late 2003 but then there was a server crash so I had to rejoin, Ive been fairly active since then ๐ฎ almost 20yrs
pearl elk
That's really cool. I should learn how to leverage compute shaders in UE
tbh there are quite a few things which UE could do to make it easier to access those layers to use them for different things. Im not sure how far along the VT pipeline is in UE5 though, I need to catch up on the preview and take a look. Games like Horizon ZD and Farcry do quite abit on the GPU side for landscape materials
nothing wrong with abit of precompiled data to speed realtime fetch up
night grove
What exactly does it mean to use a compute shader in UE?
pearl elk
feel like Material Editor could use a cache node, its a common operation in other DCCs so force cache of data so youre not compiling the whole thing. They kinda do it for MICs but its not as convenient as being able to isolate bits of a graph for cache like Houdini for eg
night grove
How does it differ from a fragment or vert shader in a material?
I'm using WPO to do some fancy fragment masking similar to how Frotnite animates things using pivot painter
pearl elk
fragment and vert shader are just different terminology
night grove
Are they also considered compute shaders then?
pearl elk
it all depends on the operations the shader performs
night grove
Is "Compute shader" just rebranding for computing non-graphics things on the GPU instead of the CPU?
regal pecan
In DX10 I think it was a completely different API call... but that's a guess.
pearl elk
compute shader is more of an abstraction layer, it makes operations more generic
the names relate largely to what stage of the process operations are performed
regal pecan
From what I recall of baby's first shader tutorials, the vertex shader converts the vertex data into a fragment, and the fragment shader converts the fragment to a color. I'm not sure where the depth culling comes in.
pearl elk
yeah I largely refer to those as vert and pixel shaders
pearl elk
depth culling depends on the renderer, GPUs do it but only if you ask nicely ๐
regal pecan
Pixel/fragment is probably interchangeable. The latter is probably more relevant if you're not drawing directly to the render buffer.
pearl elk
I guess that makes sense but I see all the buffers as drawn layers to make it easier for my puny brain to understand whats going on in the background
draw ordering is pretty important, dont want to draw a reflection over the top of a specular highlight
regal pecan
wish I'd hear more about order independent transparency
pearl elk
tell me about it, I did read Sony came up with a way to speed up RT so maybe it'll allow for some extra resources to handle transparency better
that was Mark Cerny so good to know theyre on the ball
regal pecan
ew raytracing
if raytraced transparency can somehow be faster than compute-sorted transparency, I'm going to need to start a line of chocolate hats
pearl elk
doubt it'll be faster but it might become more possible in that pipeline, those virtual methods are still very comparable in fidelity at realtime speeds
could be that raytracing is just another pathway similar to 2D/3D, Im still doubtful it'll take over
cool thing about Nanite though is that we can use geo in place of what used to be textures
I was thinking of dumping complex masks entirely for geo ๐
Gotta check vert shader perf though, see how it compares to pixel for dense meshes
narrow patrol
Can I just say, it's fucking great how active this server is? I went on the Quixel server with some basic questions and not only didn't get an answer, but those questions are still the most recent comments in their channels days later, last time I checked at least.
zinc matrix
Thank Brandon for the 15% gas price increase hahahaha
narrow patrol
Thank Brandon for the 15% gas price increase hahahaha
"Hi, I'm BASED, I think the president controls inflation worldwide, and I reference politicians as if they're fucking Voldemort"
verbal junco
"Hi, I'm BASED, I think the president controls inflation worldwide, and I refere...
same dude who argued that discord can't "take away their rights to hate speech"
knotty skiff
zinc matrix
"Hi, I'm BASED, I think the president controls inflation worldwide, and I refere...
well he is a vegetable
TbpH Voldemort would have more tagged
Tact*
narrow patrol
well he **is** a vegetable
I get that you're on that "biden is old" whatever but for this to be a joke it needs to have some relation to my comment?
zinc matrix
I get that you're on that "biden is old" whatever but for this to be a joke it n...
brandon is a joke in an of himself
narrow patrol
brandon is a joke in an of himself
But like, you phrased that as if it was a joke, but as far as I can tell it was just a non-sequitur? Why did you phrase it like that, or put that emphasis on "is"?
zinc matrix
But like, you phrased that as if it was a joke, but as far as I can tell it was ...
man is this your first day? if i have to explain a joke it aint funny
narrow patrol
man is this your first day? if i have to explain a joke it aint funny
I'm not sure it was a joke! I think it was just sort of shaped like a joke, and you don't entirely know the difference.
That or it was based on some sort of rightwing bullshit meme too deep up its own ass for me to get the reference. Just trying to figure out which.
zinc matrix
That or it was based on some sort of rightwing bullshit meme too deep up its own...
your funny
pearl elk
your funny
"You're"
oblique cloak
why spelling police? tis be the internets?
zinc matrix
oblique cloak
uneggceptable.
zinc matrix
chud upp
oblique cloak
dont yu sppel lik a bad man.
zinc matrix
i can spel mor gooder than yuo
zinc matrix
i can spel mor gooder than yuo
n0 m3
zinc matrix
same dude who argued that discord can't "take away their rights to hate speech"
lying about what i said does not make yours any stronger ๐คฃ
solid hull
This is some parallax occlusion trick, isn't it?
solid hull
oh then.... 7 million
oblique cloak
oh then.... 7 million
close 6.7 lol nanite makes it only 600 triangles
unreal ether
there is no reason that should be 6.7mil polys
oblique cloak
xD i know
but if nanite can support up to like 40 billion at about 200 fps. there is zero issues here.
unreal ether
its still a terrible habit to get into
just because nanite can run it, doesnt mean it's a good reason to use absolutely terrible modelling practices
oblique cloak
Naniting high poly meshes are the future of gaming.
unreal ether
i dont doubt that, making a terribly optimised model never will be
nanite is great, for meshes that have a few extra polys
making a small object have 6.7million polys is not what it was designed for
oblique cloak
but how does it matter tho is the question? it will look great and not cause lag
unreal ether
needlessy subdividing doesn't look great tho
and it's only application is for unreal engine, nowhere else
plus if you wanna start making assets that cant use nanite, you wont have a clue how to optimise them properly
why not use nanite to get even more performance out of already good models
rather than using it as an excuse for bad ones
oblique cloak
Everything is optimized. I dragged evry asset i have on a level, and placed over 40 billion in triangles. i still got 200 fps.
unreal ether
it is not optimised
your mesh isnt optimised
fps count != optimized
think of file size too, my one 6.5mil tri mesh takes 100mb
for one mesh
if you need to work with others on a project that is not feasible
compared to my optimized meshes that take 100kb
or 1000x smaller file size
oblique cloak
A 100 mb uncompressed file that is 4 mill + will only be about 6 - 10 mb compressed witha packed game.
oblique cloak
look at call of duty lol talk about over usage xD
unreal ether
disregarding the fact that really subdivided models look bad
unreal ether
look at call of duty lol talk about over usage xD
call of duty will not have a single 6.7million poly model
if it was a reasonable thing to do, then it would be becoming the industry standard
but it isnt
its not hard to optimise a model basically
regal pecan
Nanite's not even doing its job if the poly count is higher than the pixel count.
unreal ether
and no one playing the game is gonna think wow this window looks really smooth, even then the same effect can be achieved with 6.67million less polys, and smooth shading
or even better, use your high poly mesh to bake onto a low poly one
you still get the detail then
oblique cloak
my main goal was to make a modular set, lay it out in unreal engine, then export it back out as a merged mesh into 3ds max.
and optimize it that way.
unreal ether
a more reasonable use of nanite is soemthing like this
where you want detailed enrionemnt assets like rocks, with small nooks and crannies
and yeah you have a substantial increase, but it is on quite a large asset
but there is no way you should be having 6.7mil polys on a window
especially when it adds no extra detail
1 subdivide and a smooth would suffice and look pretty much the same
oblique cloak
is that you??
unreal ether
the autogenerated clip urls always get me lmao
regal pecan
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left granite
morning lads
unreal ether
morning
well 3 in the morning
i should really go to bed
damnnnn, wish i could say the same lmao
was planning on being productive and working on either some coursework or my project but i just sat drawing shapes on paint
again
pearl elk
100mb for that many polys aint bad, better than a single 8k tga
pearl elk
is that just 1 tile cloned?
oblique cloak
100mb for that many polys aint bad, better than a single 8k tga
yupp... i use low quality from megascans
yupp
cloned and merged
solid hull
Hrrng. Colonel, I want to make a FSM with Enums, but they're dummy hard-coded and don't work with inheritance.
left granite
well 3 in the morning
9.33 here
neat sluice
there is no way a lower poly model can achieve something like this.
I'm not well versed in 3D Graphics so I might be wrong
But what's different in there? Doesn't it look like any other model in AAA games nowadays?
scarlet cedar
Hello friends
cursive crypt
Watching someone coding, that's the most boring thing I can ever imagine ๐ค
pearl elk
depends if theyre succeeding with coding or failing
success is always more interesting to watch which is why no one makes movies about failures
cedar wolf
success is always more interesting to watch which is why no one makes movies abo...
mmm. Depends. A little failure on the way to success actually increases interest in most movies, I think.
pearl elk
thats just putting characters in jeopardy to build drama
it was never real failure
imagine say, The Mighty Ducks but they lost every match, would be a terrible movie
regal pecan
It could be an excellent movie, but a bit of a downer.
pearl elk
they dont make movies about people who almost got a Nobel prize or almost won a Pulitzer
cedar wolf
Never seen that movie. Guess it would depend on how one defines failure. That one dog movie, Lassie or sommit, could be considered a movie ending in failure, yet it is considered a classic.
And also, another classic. The Titanic.
regal pecan
Considering how Nobel and Pulitzer prizes are awarded, that wouldn't be much of a plot.
pearl elk
lol The Titanic is based on reality, cant really alter the ending on that one
but they managed to turn a tragedy into a love story, go figure
cedar wolf
lol The Titanic is based on reality, cant really alter the ending on that one
it's a movie ending with failure, nonetheless, and it was extremely popular. Failure can be interesting as well, see.
Not my cup of tea, though, honestly.
pearl elk
I dont think anyone watched it to see a boat sink
thats like watching Jaws to see a boat sink
regal pecan
Saving Private Ryan.
The "success" is a pyrrhic victory.
cedar wolf
I like the threat of failure when there is potential for growth in some way by the characters in the movies I watch.
pearl elk
the end of Titanic isnt about failure at all, it shows how Rose lived her best life and in the afterlife hooks back up with her love. It shows the fascination with The Titanic even after it sank
I suppose you could call them not finding the heart of the ocean as a failure
but the whole point of the film is Rose found her heart on the ocean
so its very much about her success
you shouldnt pick a Jim Cameron movie hehe
regal pecan
And Jack's success, at being memorable and presumably spawning offspring
cursive crypt
Coding "Titanic"
regal pecan
And saving Rose's life, probably
pearl elk
I would certainly code the Titanic to have larger midsection compartments, G and F in particular
also side engines like the QE2
can you imagine what the turning circle on The Titanic woulda been
turning an 800ft+ ship with just rear engines, thats certainly a failure of engineering
cursive crypt
Well, we can't deny the quality of destructible meshes and physics. It sank spectacularly.
pearl elk
it was only a model ๐
I feel sorry for the carpenters, they watched all their hard work get flooded out
fluid bloom
that's nice to hear ๐
quasi mantle
that's nice to hear ๐
Also made up some interesting bokeh like scene
signal citrus
Pretty
signal citrus
knotty skiff
Ubisoft and Guerrilla when they found out Elden Ring got some money because the design are "bad"
regal pecan
I thought reviewers scored games based on how much advertising you bought on their platform.
cursive crypt
It is anyway between 90 and 99.9
It is also still new game, there is always hype. But then it might be actually good game for all DarkSouls fans.
deep copper
as long as people have fun
pearl elk
Dont you have to rate anything FromSoftware highly, I thought that was a rule
It should have a 30fps mode just so it feels more pro
cursive crypt
Wait the new expansion of World of Warcraft get out, they will forget Elden Gringo right away.
pearl elk
Elder Ranga
cursive crypt
Zelden Rancho ๐
pearl elk
here I thought it was all about Sifu
but nope George RR releases more content and still doesnt finish GoT
cursive crypt
Is not yet done? Last I knew he was approaching the last of the last book.
pearl elk
he's going to put aside finishing GoT while he writes the Elden Ring screenplay
cursive crypt
Afaik, he did few things there and left them. But I dunno, not following ๐คทโโ๏ธ
pearl elk
and who can forget the prequel set 2 millennia before the events of Elden Ring