lounge

[timber viper]

at least in the streets you cant

[cursive crypt]

Might sit well in the garden.

[deep copper]

right, it will definitely crush everything

[quasi mantle]

@ionic flame

[timber viper]

😄

lol ( hi tank 👋 )

[deep copper]

guess they can be a tank more more now

[cursive crypt]

Should be More only.

[deep copper]

..you were for sale before?

missed opportunity

tch

[timber viper]

But also in the future

[deep copper]

you say that with a re:zero pfp gives it a new meaning

[quasi mantle]

Past

Future

Past Future

hehehe

[fleet tangle]

There are street legal tanks in the British army!

Once you have them de-armed you can drive them around town.

[timber viper]

Hehe, now I want to move to Britain 😄

[fleet tangle]

Nobody does.

[quasi mantle]

If you want to deal with constant moisture, then yeah

[deep copper]

reminds me, did brexit get resolved?

[zinc matrix]

I had a weird dream where an old friend I haven't seen in a minute revealed to me that he was the Green Goblin and then started chasing me, trying to kill me

luckily Spider-Man intervened

[deep copper]

atleast both characters are from the same story

[zinc matrix]

Spider-man was getting beat pretty bad though

[deep copper]

quite a sticky situation

[zinc matrix]

hah, I get it

I was able to narrowly dodge the pumpkin bombs though

I also tried evacuating other people as Spider-man was fighting him

[deep copper]

good job

[timber viper]

Not a problem

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/play-video-games-spider-man-goblin-funny-gif-12877369

[zinc matrix]

"YOU'RE TRASH AT MORTAL KOMBAT, SPIDER-MAN! HAHAHA!"

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-spiderman-gif-12255612

[signal dagger]

does anyone know if Manny's avatar (the bot) is custom made? I love it so much that I wish to use it as my own but then it won't be unique

[deep copper]

you should ask pfist

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7GmserObis

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-no-way-home-spider-man-no-way-home-gif-24112154

[signal dagger]

what's his/her username here because I can't find anyone when I use @ pfist

[zinc matrix]

https://youtube.com/shorts/QYFQvAO7GC0?feature=share

[deep copper]

pfist#9999 , they are the admin here

[signal dagger]

thank you

[zinc matrix]

heh, I got a ton of Spider-man memes on standby

[deep copper]

try the search button above because the server is huge, it wouldn't show up directly while @ ing or something

[deep copper]

what's jordans

[signal dagger]

yeah, I found him already, thanks :3

[zinc matrix]

popular shoes (the joke is that the Goblin is taunting Spider-man over something as petty as clothing)

[deep copper]

ah ic

[zinc matrix]

the meme originated after someone filmed Willem Dafoe (the actor who played the Goblin in the first movie) showing off expensive clothing he recently bought https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yh9yS7_JUMU

[deep copper]

😆

nice

he will forever be known as green goblin

[zinc matrix]

more like the Clean Goblin now

get it?

[deep copper]

hmmm not really i think?

[zinc matrix]

"clean" is slang for someone who's well-dressed

[deep copper]

ah right right i see the relation now xD

[deep copper]

ngl he actually looks quite, sweet

[zinc matrix]

"HAHAHA! WHERE'S YOUR DRIP, SPIDER-MAN?"

[deep copper]

what's drip exactly?

[zinc matrix]

slang for expensive clothes

you know

gucci

supreme

all that crap

[deep copper]

oh i see, well, spider man was just a newspaper boy, ofc he got no drip

[zinc matrix]

Spider-man: "You shouldn't be so smug, Gobby. Most of that is probably made by outsourced slaves."
Goblin: "I KNOW! HAHAHA!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKYmiw_6wC0

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-spider-man-marvel-green-goblin-movie-gif-18107460

[zinc matrix]

Goblin: "YEAH! THIS DRIP COSTED ME LIKE $500,000 IN TOTAL!"
Spider-man: "But aren't you like a multibillionaire?"
Goblin: "THAT'S NOT THE POINT!"

[deep copper]

💥

[zinc matrix]

https://youtu.be/ScfTIDiIEFQ

[deep copper]

and then he will switch to another because now steve is too infamous

[zinc matrix]

pretty sure in the comics, Goblin's true identity is only known by Spidey, so the whole name-change doesn't make sense anyway

er wait

no wait, NYC does know

fair enough

[deep copper]

the video works on the assumption that he sends job resume or whatever with "green goblin" as name, which is flawed in itself

[zinc matrix]

makes me think this isn't Norman, but someone posing as him, like the Hobgoblin all over again

[deep copper]

what's that now

[zinc matrix]

New York City (Spider-man's home)

[deep copper]

most probably

[deep copper]

i wasn't expecting it to be that lol, so how does nyc knows?

[zinc matrix]

I think eventually Spidey unmasked him and revealed it to the public

[deep copper]

that's unexpected

he didn't even tell his son in the movies so easily

[zinc matrix]

in the comics, Harry (Norman's son) took up the mantle of the Goblin while Norman was supposedly dead (he resurrected later cuz comics), and eventually found out, just like in the movie trilogy

fortunately, Peter and Harry eventually made up and became friends again

[deep copper]

aww that's adorable

that they made up

actually they did in the movies too i think 🤔

[zinc matrix]

I like Peter and Harry's friendship

[deep copper]

idr

[zinc matrix]

yeah, they did, Sam Raimi took a lotta inspiration from the comics

[deep copper]

whose that

is*

[zinc matrix]

eventually Norman came back to life somehow and reclaimed his mantle as the Goblin

[zinc matrix]

the director of the first 3 Spidey movies

[deep copper]

ah

i don't know how i feel about goblin coming back as norman

he was pretty dead

[zinc matrix]

tbh ever since the 90s, comic characters have died and come back to life multiple times

it's lame but it's practically normal by now

it started, or at least catalyzed, after the infamous Death of Superman storyline

[deep copper]

death will probably feel less impactful if revival happens imo, but it surely gives chance for more plot twists i suppose

[zinc matrix]

thing is they're not really plot twists anymore because everyone expects them at this point

[deep copper]

as long as people are happy i guess

[zinc matrix]

eh, comic sales have kinda been on a decline since the 90s

death not mattering is one of the reasons

[deep copper]

i think that's probably because the medium changed

from comics to something else

[zinc matrix]

kinda

I still read some stuff here and there though

[deep copper]

i keep some just for collection

[zinc matrix]

imo after Peter and Harry made up, I think someone else shoulda been the Goblin

maybe have the Hobgoblin return cuz I don't think he died

[deep copper]

who is hobgoblin

[zinc matrix]

Green Goblin's successor after Norman died and before Harry reclaimed the mantle

[deep copper]

he never showed up again?

[zinc matrix]

I mean he's shown up occasionally, but not as frequently as he used to

he's not the main goblin anymore

[deep copper]

he doesn't even sound like a main enemy, just a side char

[zinc matrix]

he was a main enemy during Norman's absense

[deep copper]

probably on his prime back then

in*

[zinc matrix]

but ever since Norman came back, Hobgoblin's been on the bleachers

[deep copper]

do norman and hobgoblin ever talk?

to each other

as goblin goblin family

[zinc matrix]

Norman hates Hobgoblin because he sees him as an impostor

[deep copper]

and what about Harry?

[zinc matrix]

unlike Norman, Hobgoblin didn't even make the Goblin gear, just stole it

[deep copper]

but why

[zinc matrix]

iirc, Harry beat Hobgoblin in a fight as Green Goblin in this issue

[deep copper]

does that mean he knew whwre it was kept?

[zinc matrix]

because Hobgoblin pretty much stole his gear and claim to fame without his permission

[zinc matrix]

yeah, he accidentally discovered it

[deep copper]

Spiderman didn't even get to be in the center lol

[zinc matrix]

well he's caught in the crossfire

plus both goblins are fighting over who gets to kill him

[deep copper]

my my, spidy is famous

[deep copper]

accidentally huh

[zinc matrix]

I mean he is Marvel's flagship character and arguably the 2nd or 3rd most popular superhero

[deep copper]

i wonder how he learned to use such dangerous weapons by accident, because small mistakes could kill him, and i don't know norman made manuals did je

he

[zinc matrix]

I think Batman and Spider-man generally go back and forth between who's the most popular after Superman

[deep copper]

most probably

i don't remember anyone else being closer to them

[zinc matrix]

he might have, idk

I never cared much for Hobgoblin tbh

[deep copper]

well harry also figured it out

[zinc matrix]

I mean yeah, he's alright I guess, but Norman is right about him: he's a cheap imitation

[deep copper]

maybe he did make manuals

[deep copper]

yes

just someone to pass the time with, till the main enemies are back

[zinc matrix]

plus Spidey has plenty of foes to choose from

[deep copper]

besides he just found stuff, he didn't have enough hatred to make anything

[zinc matrix]

Dr. Octopus, Venom, Carnage, Lizard, Sandman, Shocker, Mysterio, Vulture, Electro, Scorpion, Rhino, Kraven, etc

[deep copper]

yeah

[zinc matrix]

Dr. Octopus is probably Spidey's most dangerous foe after Goblin

[deep copper]

tentacles

[zinc matrix]

not just that, he's the most scientifically intelligent and has very cunning plans

[deep copper]

don't the tentacles take over his brain?

[zinc matrix]

he's come closer to killing Spidey than most foes

[zinc matrix]

kind of, but he still retains his free will and intelligence

it's moreso the radiation that affected his brain

[deep copper]

poor dr

[zinc matrix]

he came pretty close to killing Spidey here

[deep copper]

he looks way cooler in the movies

[deep copper]

this guy looks more scientisty

[zinc matrix]

yeah, Ock's no slouch

[deep copper]

he was as good as dead there

just, luck

[zinc matrix]

like I said, after Goblin or maybe Venom, he's come the closest to killing Spidey

[deep copper]

also how do you find these so quick

[zinc matrix]

I read this comic

[deep copper]

either way i got to go now 🎱

cya later

[zinc matrix]

also respect threads

https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/4vozum/respect_doctor_octopus_marvel_616/

[zinc matrix]

same, later

[deep copper]

read it? but how do you find it RIGHT NOW?

[zinc matrix]

I posted it to a DM of another friend

[deep copper]

ah

[verbal junco]

japan has issues 😔

you know who else has issues? ||joe||

[regal pecan]

I'm expecting joe mama.

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-squint-markiplier-glare-suspicious-gif-15742154

have you tried rider?

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-the-simpsons-at-least-you-tried-fail-failure-gif-7859548

do you see the bin

[timber viper]

(and sometimes #gameplay-ai )

[verbal junco]

they're not

any new #cpp memes?

seems like we've gone into a quiet period

not saying it's correlated, but I haven't seen any new memes ever since russia invaded ukraine

[unreal cedar]

no one has come in asking impossible questions recently

so it's been pretty boring

[mossy nexus]

I had someone block me because I dared to suggest he post in #graphics instead of #level-design - apparently pointing out that people with graphics experience are more likely to hang out in #graphics offended him in some way 😄

[verbal junco]

it's the curse of #level-design

and since #gamedesign doesn't exist, all you get is the former 3

gee thanks guys, great work that'll sure tell them they're doing the wrong thing

[mossy nexus]

Put Putin on the naughty step

[timber viper]

So when we talk about game design there, are we violating server rules 😄

[verbal junco]

GET THE DUNCE HAT

[timber viper]

Since BlueMan doesn't exists there I guess not a problem but.. 😄

[verbal junco]

I think they are letting that slide given how little attention that channel gets otherwise

[mossy nexus]

https://youtu.be/kb0kiiB3O-o

[timber viper]

I doubt they are even aware tbh 😄

[verbal junco]

so under the radar that the radar isn't even active

[timber viper]

.01th%

[mossy nexus]

nth

[timber viper]

Doing non-ai talks at #gameplay-ai is something though

It's relaxing

[mossy nexus]

how does an non-AI talk though?

[verbal junco]

like this:

[mossy nexus]

A Norwegian guy I know has been getting ready, as he's in the reserve.

[verbal junco]

better do some target practice now just to be safe

[timber viper]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-simpson-the-simpsons-at-least-you-tried-fail-failure-gif-7859548

[timber viper]

https://youtu.be/2Whrat_Rn0I

[timber viper]

"Strongly worded condemnations"
this is where we at I guess 😄

[median wraith]

https://blog.bandcamp.com/2022/03/02/bandcamp-is-joining-epic/

[median wraith]

man that was well know indie music web

like the first indie music website dedicated for that purpose

I did well. dropping my app since nobody even knows about indie music websites 🤣

Minecraft album were first posted there actually

[pearl elk]

This one time in Fortnite...

[sudden pewter]

I had firefox, discord, telegram desktop, rider, unreal engine, clickup and the epic games launcher all open in the background while watching videos on youtube and my laptop was overheating and running at full fan speed so I decided to check what was making my cpu overheat

can you guess which one was the culprit? 😁

[pearl elk]

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/a0605565890_16.jpg
Cant wait for this Fortnite skin

[sudden pewter]

nope

[pearl elk]

defender

[sudden pewter]

nah it's the epic games launcher

it's at 25% cpu usage every time I open my library

(and I had it open in the background)

[pearl elk]

your CPU % doesnt match the total

which leads me to believe its OS not App

[sudden pewter]

after closing the epic games launcher it cooled down tho

(also it matches the total)

[pearl elk]

well it is using CPU

but I wouldnt say its using all the CPU, its barely half the total

[sudden pewter]

the epic games launcher (on the library tab) systematically makes my cpu overheat

it uses around 25% (or one full core)

[pearl elk]

perhaps its because there is something else running all the time while the launcher is trying to pull CPU at the same time

[sudden pewter]

no, it's just because I have 2 bazillion items in my vault

and the launcher is probably written as a webapp

[pearl elk]

you can hide your vault, just select no categories

[sudden pewter]

yup when minimized manually it seems to chill

but when you tab out it doesn't chill

and I never minimize my stuff I just tab out

it's funny how tabbing out of Unreal Engine as a whole makes it use almost no cpu

same for Rider

[nocturne charm]

what's the best advice you could give from someone coming from traditional cpp to the engine's cpp? I have done a lot of research on the engine, but haven't started being practical with integrating cpp classes in my projects. Working alongside blueprints is obv a pain, but working with the engines various modules feel overwhelming. I am currently trying to get into an epic's internship and I am looking toward some advice from my programming seniors.

[pearl elk]

5950X

but thats cuz I made it use the SSD and fiddled with the UI

3.4MB/s @ 2% is pretty fast 😛

[sudden pewter]

I'd say regular cpp and unreal cpp have almost nothing in common besides syntax and the common sense you get from using it

[sudden pewter]

mine is on a ssd too but the launcher wasn't doing anything

[pearl elk]

I click on MP and the launcher does nothing

[sudden pewter]

in fact it's been overheating my pc and wasting power for 3 hours because I thought it was unreal and rider and I couldn't be arsed to close them

[pearl elk]

its mostly unresponsive for me these days

[sudden pewter]

except it was just the launcher

[nocturne charm]

@sudden pewter what's the best way to learn unreal's cpp besides the doumentation?

[sudden pewter]

I'd say probably jump right in and try to make stuff, you can also check the projects provided by epic games to see how things are done but be careful some of them use kinda old advice

[pearl elk]

write it and fail, then pick yourself up and fail again

eventually, you'll write unreal cpp

[sudden pewter]

also I disagree with the way you see blueprints, for me working alongside blueprints is the opposite of pain, it allows you to avoid some pains of doing some stuff in cpp when it's not performance sensitive and doesn't require any "strong" enforcement

[nocturne charm]

should I apply for Epic's internship with the limited experience I have?

[sudden pewter]

why not but I think you need to have some game projects to show to be able to get accepted

let me find my notes back when the Unreal Academy discord existed and they hosted something about that

if it was about internships which I'm not even sure

[pearl elk]

theres some code which is just painful to write in CPP and so much simpler using the BP nodes

[sudden pewter]

also I totally second this, in learning any skill one of the most important pieces of advice I ever got is "fail faster"

[pearl elk]

CPP has the power but that verbosity can be needless for simpler tasks

[nocturne charm]

true, I can see that... or using the editor's BT before translating it into cpp

@sudden pewter ping me when u find ur notes

[sudden pewter]

I just did it was about megagrants not internships sadly :/

[sudden pewter]

wdym by "the editor's bt"?

[pearl elk]

MegaRants are my favourite type of rant

[nocturne charm]

Behavior Trees

[sudden pewter]

I don't think you need to translate BTs into cpp

the tasks, decorators and services maybe

honestly I see it as being too painful to be worth it

except for a single decorator that I couldn't do in blueprint everything I have for AI atm is in blueprint

[pearl elk]

BTs are the things from Death Stranding right

[sudden pewter]

slate

oof

[pearl elk]

I think it should be said like uhmng rather than you em gee

[left granite]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-approves-pedrorc-pedroredcerberus-yes-agree-gif-11599348

[pearl elk]

I still wish there were an overview tool which could show a whole system design and all the interconnected pieces. Issue is that Epic are moving towards abstraction for performance and replication optimisation so its only going to get worse 😭

[broken sigil]

I would heavily disagree with this
UE is a just a framework like any other, it's all "regular C++"

If you already know C++, using it with UE (or really with any other framework, library, etc...) shouldn't be too much of trouble, just the matter of getting familiar with the API and learning how game engines work if you are not already familiar with them

[sudden pewter]

well funnily enough, I only had been coding in C, Java and Python before learning the very bare minimum cpp to code in Unreal and my knowledge about C++ in unreal barely translated into "raw" cpp knowledge as I knew nothing of what std has

there are a lot of concepts in unreal that are built almost outside of cpp itself through the header tools and the quite obscure macros too

[broken sigil]

That's only true if you only stick to the gameplay programming in UE where you are dealing with managed UObjects, that's about it

[pearl elk]

Im dancing with the devil, learning Kotlin 😛

[sudden pewter]

I'm not saying it's not regular C++ tho, I'm just saying unreal C++ has almost as much in common with C and Java as it has with C++

[broken sigil]

But that's not true tho

[sudden pewter]

oh definitely yeah I'm not talking about engine programming

and as generally speaking I assume anyone asking for advice about working with unreal to make anything is probably going to do gameplay programming and not engine programming

but it's true that an internship at epic games could really mean anything

[pearl elk]

yeah I wanna write an app so I figured something that is more widely supported on android was the go

[verbal junco]

well you don't have to memory manage UPROPs

[broken sigil]

Stuff like reflection and GC can easily be implemented with "pure" C++ without UHT and similar, UHT just hides a ton of boilerplate code so I don't consider it to be "UE++"
Gameplay programming I would agree is "assisted C++" but as you start doing more advanced stuff you'll also find yourself outside the comfort of UObjects quickly where there is no reflection or GC

Everything else is just the matter of learning the API

[verbal junco]

I think implementing a GC isn't something that's necessarily done "easily"

or at least I would figure it's one of those areas that could be high risk

[broken sigil]

it isn't something that's extremely difficult or impossible without external tools tho

[verbal junco]

it's above my skill level so I can't attest to how difficult it is exactly, but I can see a faulty GC being more dangerous than using a proprietary one

just because you can completely screw yourself over with a GC

[broken sigil]

I'm not saying you should implement your own GC in UE, what I'm saying what Epic has done with GC and reflection doesn't make it a new language

[pearl elk]

It did actually take Epic a long while to solve some issues with memory leaks from early UE3 builds, Ive not seen anything that bad since then, obviously some minor issues with UnrealEd in UE4 here and there but the GC is pretty solid

[verbal junco]

sure, no. but it's certainly cpp with training wheels

[pearl elk]

In terms of engines it entirely depends on how its used, making a GC that clears at intervals is easy, trying to make it work with level streaming big open worlds and all that is the hard part because it needs to be more async

[broken sigil]

Only if you are dealing with the basic gameplay stuff, otherwise the training wheels don't do much

[pearl elk]

spawn calls still cause jitters in UE5 if things arnt cached properly lol

[broken sigil]

And a lot of beginners will be doing the "basic gameplay" stuff for a long while so I can see the point here too

[broken sigil]

That's true

[verbal junco]

UPROPs are GC'd I feel is pretty all encompassing. but sure, most of my stuff is gameplay oriented

[pearl elk]

try new 😉

[broken sigil]

Basic was maybe the wrong word here, would probably be better to call it "standard" gameplay stuff
But as you start to develop different tools for your game you'll be doing a lot of it with "regular C++"

Lets say you are implementing a tool to generate planets, 90% of that won't have anything to do with UObjects and UE won't be able to help here
Especially if you plan on multithreading it

[pearl elk]

There is alot in terms of writing UIs for tools though that is specific to UE but you'll get that with any UI framework in C++ they all do things differently, some even have implementations in multiple languages.

[broken sigil]

Yeah, it's a framework
Any larger project will have it's own framework built and will rarely depend on the standard library

[pearl elk]

Thats where the power of C++ really is in the ability to rewrite it from the ground up, Im certainly not a fan of diving that deep and hitting my head on the hardware 😛

[broken sigil]

Yeah I agree 😅
It can act as a high level language which is what UE's reflection and memory management for UObjects tries to achieve or go as low level as you want

[pearl elk]

Im glad Epic are the ones handling the UObject side of things, I wouldnt know the first place to start to make the optimisations like they did with UProperties

I try to picture myself as a fly on the wall in the meeting that makes things like this happen but it never works lol

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/done-meeting-jump-window-im-done-gif-12381058

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/meeting-yesterdays-meeting-todays-meeting-long-meeting-another-meeting-gif-12712215

[broken sigil]

Yep, especially with stuff like Blueprints which makes it very approachable by non programmers

[pearl elk]

well thats why I went with third party engines all these years, when the likes of EA even has issues doing it in house you do have to wonder if its worth it. I mean some indies find success making their own if the requirements of the game are tight enough

theres no way Id be able to implement half the post process stuff Epic does let alone Nanite

[broken sigil]

It's like spend 5 years making a barely usable engine + 2 years making the game which will turn into 5 because you have to spend time fixing your engine or spend just 2 years making the game

[pearl elk]

Cyberpunk 2077 anyone 🙂 and they didnt even start entirely from scratch

[broken sigil]

lol

[regal pecan]

Interesting that the puffer is the only one with a well articulated mouth for animating "hoo ha ha"

[pearl elk]

I have more subs on my fake tiktok than any of my real accounts

[deep glen]

fun fact, it was their intention to rent their engine to other companies, but after the sheitshow... well.. yea.

[pearl elk]

Theyve made it worse in some ways with the update, they lowered the draw distance so low animations dont initialise close enough. Fixed the anim glitching but anim popping from default pose looks terrible

Id say they get pumped up because they are official sponsored, did they get a Twitch sponsor thing too? that might bump them in the search list

its pretty much like any reality TV though the popularity is heavily manufactured

[verbal junco]

was it a chinese product? or russian? 🤔

[quasi mantle]

Don't get me started again with its unnatural looking human models/materials.

Granted, it's 80s cyberpunk vision and all about augmented body parts, but wouldn't the people still have organic fleshes?

At least the lens flares do be lookin nice

[deep glen]

https://i.gyazo.com/02b28374992fba192618945a79c2a2e9.jpg

[pearl elk]

I dunno about that, materials technology has actually come a long way and is advancing very quickly thanks to AI so maybe its not so 80s

[quasi mantle]

The aesthetics are still 80s cyberpunk visions.

[regal pecan]

I enjoy seeing subsurface scattering shaders that look like radioactive blush.

[pearl elk]

just look at the filters people use to make themselves look unique, all this e-person trend

if they could do it irl they might just do it

I dont need to link body mod culture Im sure we're all aware of how far and wide it extends 🙂

[quasi mantle]

At least they managed to make those prosthetic arms like in MGS 5 a real thing now

[pearl elk]

well having mantis blades here in Australia will get you a minimum of 10k fine a piece

which is why people tend to carry crowbars and breaker bars as they are "tools"

I think its the bigger social concepts missing from Cyberpunk 2077 which bugs me more than any of its aesthetics

it doesnt really say a whole lot, its a good bit of drama but Im not sure the message of the original comes across

[quasi mantle]

What about living anime catgirl ownership?

[deep glen]

it had a massive opportunity to really do something with the potential.
Instead we got... well.. this.
Its not bad, but... well...

meh

[pearl elk]

You mean the Taylor Swift saga?

[regal pecan]

throw in every open world rpg in the past 4-5 years

[quasi mantle]

Ughh no

I mean regular human girls but with ear cat shaped head decoration

[deep glen]

you should mention FO4 instead of 76, because that one sucked donkey as well

[pearl elk]

I think I would buy a game called Hype Train

[regal pecan]

Noted, making asset flip now

[deep glen]

@quasi mantle those words along with ownership makes my finger itch.

[quasi mantle]

The one that Elon Musk promised

Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies

[pearl elk]

ahh so not the musician android girl in cyberpunk who is owned by the studio

was a nice touch but still very much based in stories we have now, not so futurist

If I were to give a nod to some modern Cyberpunk fiction Ive enjoyed Id have to go with Infini and Anon

[quasi mantle]

I'm envisioning more of the 2020s vision of cyberpunk, where it's basically the modern world we're living, but the evil mega corp has the same marketing style to Facebook Meta

[left granite]

XD

[pearl elk]

Mirrors Edge: Catalyst

in all honesty the modern world can feel backwards compared to 80s cyberpunk, if you look at Robocop or Total Recall vs Black Mirror

its very bleak that we have all this technology but it fits with this old fashioned society rather than having major cultural changes because of said technology

esp if you look at the Black Mirror episode where they use the head gear to share thoughts/memories, its very low tech apart from splashes of technology but thats what makes it so unsettling

Neo Tokyo feels so disjointed for someone like me who has mostly been in rural Australia, its not like we dont have the technology its just not this sort of mirrorshades Matrix or GiTs thing

I can certainly see that cultural influence from Asia here but theres a long colonial history here that wont change in a hurry because of a few cat ears

[quasi mantle]

Well, granted, Australia/NZ isn't considered to be part of "Far East"

[pearl elk]

I guess my point is the aesthetics come just as much from the country of origin as the time line

we're a pretty unique blend tbh, east west and everything between

lies, its more of an egg shape 😛

https://i.redd.it/tvqzem9mfg621.jpg

[quasi mantle]

||Flat earth is a video game logic taken out of context||

[pearl elk]

New Assassins Creed will have NFTs if you want the round Earth

[fleet tangle]

Non-flat token!

[knotty skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/nft-monkey-gif-24311302

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/flat-eric-puppet-dancing-speed-up-gif-17770156

[knotty skiff]

THAT'S LOAD OF MONEY!!

[thick belfry]

I got the corona

Rip

[knotty skiff]

Damn hope you get better soon

[zinc matrix]

In that case, pacific islands are the "most-east"

then would the "least-east" most-west be alaska?

why is it east-er island? What is it more east than?

[regal pecan]

I think midway is east of the international date line

Otherwise, Hawaii is the most significant westmost landmass

Antarctica is AllOfTheAbove.

[cursive crypt]

Easiest is to consider the starting point of timezones.

[timber viper]

Today I saw I was breaking my own project with hot reload in my dream

Damn UE, what have you done to me

[quasi mantle]

Inb4 Hot Reload creepypasta

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/mrping-mrpingnoodles-kingfupanda-kungfupandanoodles-noodles-gif-24694354

[left granite]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-po-sad-bounce-gif-16407258

[knotty skiff]

You can play Aperture Desk Job with any types of controller without a Steam Deck

[left granite]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-kai-walking-menacing-arrive-gif-20747652

[timber viper]

🥳

:stonks:

[signal dagger]

I came up with something myself that I really love, it's similar to Manny's avatar 😄

[quasi mantle]

No, just download the Control Rig Example project and have fun posing Manny.

The project also features Mary, the female counterpart (as of 4.26)

[signal dagger]

I honestly didn't even think of using the control rig example project, lol

but I already came up with something, it's currently in use already 😄

[deep copper]

that looks amazing! 😁 manny would be proud

[left granite]

https://tenor.com/view/10-bellissimo-wonderful-perfect-lovely-gif-19854356

[deep copper]

!8ball do you love it?

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: My reply is no.

[zinc matrix]

idk why, the UT soundtrack is just good

[deep copper]

it's jealous

[signal dagger]

probably because I used the male character instead of the female one

[left granite]

!8ball do you love @signal dagger pfp ?

[turbid spindle]

@left granite, :8ball: Without a doubt.

[left granite]

there we go

[signal dagger]

@left granite yours also looks cool

[quasi mantle]

!8ball Can you make up your mind?

[turbid spindle]

@quasi mantle, :8ball: Outlook good.

[left granite]

thanks 😋

[turbid spindle]

@brisk ether, :8ball: Outlook good.

[turbid spindle]

@zinc matrix, :8ball: Without a doubt.

[quasi mantle]

Manny lives in the nineties

No, running in the nineties

[deep glen]

!8ball do you give wrong suggestions?

[turbid spindle]

@deep glen, :8ball: As I see it, yes.

[deep glen]

!8ball should we all join your onlymanny?

[turbid spindle]

@deep glen, :8ball: It is certain.

[cursive crypt]

Ohoo... thats new.

But wait, isn't Manny technically naked already? 🤔

[deep glen]

he posts the dumbest questions on it. not sure where your mind went.

:p

[knotty skiff]

Holy mother of Mary Joseph and Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit Amen!

Crossfire X is not what I expected!

[deep copper]

!8ball can you fly

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: Yes.

[knotty skiff]

!8ball are you an idiot?

[turbid spindle]

@knotty skiff, :8ball: Yes.

[knotty skiff]

WHAT

[deep copper]

haha

!8ball can you solve captcha

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: Outlook good.

[knotty skiff]

!8ball are you a Human?

[turbid spindle]

@knotty skiff, :8ball: Outlook good.

[deep copper]

!8ball are you cyborg

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: Reply hazy, try again.

[deep copper]

!8ball are you robo

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: It is certain.

[knotty skiff]

!8ball are you a robot?

[turbid spindle]

@knotty skiff, :8ball: Reply hazy, try again.

[knotty skiff]

!8ball IDIOT!

[turbid spindle]

@knotty skiff, :8ball: Better not tell you now.

[deep copper]

!8ball 🎱

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: Signs point to yes.

[zinc matrix]

!8ball is leaving this place a good idea?

[turbid spindle]

@zinc matrix, :8ball: Yes.

[knotty skiff]

!8ball is killing you a good idea?

[turbid spindle]

@knotty skiff, :8ball: My sources say no.

[knotty skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-fight-scared-punch-speed-gif-24579178

[cursive crypt]

!8ball Should I block you?

[turbid spindle]

@cursive crypt, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

[quasi mantle]

!8ball Is Mary your fiancee?

[turbid spindle]

@quasi mantle, :8ball: Without a doubt.

[quasi mantle]

!8ball Is Mary your sister?

[turbid spindle]

@quasi mantle, :8ball: As I see it, yes.

[zinc matrix]

A game where you cling to programming languages to save the king.

[deep copper]

who is Mary

[zinc matrix]

🪕

[quasi mantle]

context: Mary is the female mannequin. Derived from the word Marionette

[deep copper]

you have yet to share the nsfw game idea

[zinc matrix]

why tf do you remember me saying that

keep asking manny

you'll find one eventually

[deep copper]

i was waiting for it for quite a while, then never got the opportunity

[deep copper]

ah

[zinc matrix]

Mary it is

no other arguments

[deep copper]

marry mary

[quasi mantle]

Manny said Mary is his fiancee, but also his sister

[zinc matrix]

!8ball do you condone incest?

[turbid spindle]

@zinc matrix, :8ball: Don't count on it.

[fleet tangle]

It's artificial wincest.

[unreal ether]

I jave only just realiaed tetromino is tetris + domino

[zinc matrix]

Splendid

[unreal ether]

My life is a lie

[fleet tangle]

Portmantacular.

[zinc matrix]

!8ball is this conversation considered weird?

[turbid spindle]

@zinc matrix, :8ball: Don't count on it.

[quasi mantle]

It was settled in #ue5-general a while ago.

[zinc matrix]

Ah good

[deep copper]

!8ball are you my brother?

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: Better not tell you now.

[deep copper]

there might just be a small chance 🤔

!8ball do you like cookies?

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: My reply is no.

[deep copper]

!8ball do you like milk?

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: Concentrate and ask again.

[deep copper]

!8ball do you like beer?

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: Don't count on it.

[deep copper]

!8ball do you like potatoes?

[turbid spindle]

@deep copper, :8ball: Yes – definitely.

[deep copper]

huh

[quasi mantle]

Manny is certified halal

[verbal junco]

it'd be funny if people weren't losing their lives because of this guy

I suppose only hitler can kill hitler

[deep copper]

you mean putin would suicide?

would be funny if he does it right before his 70th birthday

[verbal junco]

it's either that or he goes nuclear on everyone

[median wraith]

Nobody said anything in the last 15 years with 16k people dead there, but now the world will save them

[cursive crypt]

In each country there are minorities.

[median wraith]

well they used to be the whole thing so

[cursive crypt]

Used? When?

You can slice the ages and you will get different picture each time.

[median wraith]

30 years ago

[cursive crypt]

I know, I'm telling you, it is matter of the year you focus on.

I have been in Ukraine few times, center/west. I don't even remember someone from my colleagues and friends over there liking Putin. On the contrary, his portrait was scratched over on multiple restaurants, clubs and bars.

[median wraith]

there is people breaking Columbus statutes in 2022, figureout

[cursive crypt]

They consider themselves on their own, not a satellite.

Nice short summary, it does not focus on some aspect which I consider important though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK-yJD_fAtk

[verbal junco]

very highly doubt this

so your narrative is that the ukrainian government is killing their own people? more so while russia is invading?

I believe this is time for

https://tenor.com/view/thonk-thinking-sun-thonk-sun-thinking-sun-gif-14999983

it's about russian sovereignty of the region mostly. if ukraine remained pro west it would cause russia to topple eventually

ah of course it wasn't russian, you can verify that

please

I thought this server didn't have russian bots

[cursive crypt]

She mentions that too, but briefly. It was one of my main points too, it is about the energy and resources being so rich in Ukraine.

[verbal junco]

let me guess, you think putin is a decent dude too

[verbal junco]

russia has plenty of resources, they wouldn't risk this just for resources

[cursive crypt]

Nonsense. Ukraine has huuuge resources.

[median wraith]

At some point in a different way I think spain will remain just as Madrid lmao

[verbal junco]

sure. but they wouldn't risk a war over resources

[cursive crypt]

Whhat???

[verbal junco]

a potential third world war

this is about sovereignty

anything else is just a bonus

nah

[cursive crypt]

Of course, they will risk everything about resources and defense.

[verbal junco]

imagine if ukraine entered into nato

[median wraith]

Is never about resources, is about lies

[verbal junco]

it would mean that the west could slowly break down russia

that's why they had an invasion

taiwan is not on europe's doorstep though

[cursive crypt]

Taiwan is important for the whole West.

[verbal junco]

actually I can almost with certainty say this is a false statement. ukrainian weaponry is supplied by the west. it's russia who has 20 year old tech with outdated guidance. I can't believe even today people would say this is on ukraine. what are you going to say next, that ukraine is the aggressor?

[median wraith]

In other hand the people now call this whole country that word, but back in the days the world was liberated mainly because them in the ww2.
What isn't something that support their actual actions but is a fact from the old table

[cursive crypt]

They just threw ppl to die over there Hev. It was also plain stupid to even attack them to begin with. It was lost war the moment they went there.

[verbal junco]

it's an important bastion, sure, but you cannot claim it has the same importance at ukraine at this time

[median wraith]

I mean it is, actually they are doing the stupid for 10 years or more

[cursive crypt]

Never claimed that?!

[verbal junco]

great rebuttal. don't show me sources that you are right, just say "dO yOuR oWn rEsEaRcH" and win the argument that way

[cursive crypt]

These are different hot points.

Bias some say.

Shadow bias.

[verbal junco]

sure. but then you look at facts and somehow your viewpoints don't correlate with those. strange how that is

[cursive crypt]

You both are arguing about arguing now. Play some tetris and see who wins.

[quasi mantle]

The infuriating part of the war is that it is used as an excuse to normalise racism on the internet.

[cursive crypt]

Where you saw that?

[verbal junco]

nah I'm not here to argue, I just refuse to let someone be pro russian right now

imagine being pro nazi in 1939 after the invasion of poland

[cursive crypt]

I would focus more on pro-putin, not pro-russian. People usually just want to live well.

[quasi mantle]

In particular, towards innocent Russian people who are even against the war

[cursive crypt]

Xenophobia

Of course, that a sad truth.

[verbal junco]

you're clearly spinning an anti ukrainian narrative

[cursive crypt]

But I think many people, 2+ neurons, try to make the difference.

[quasi mantle]

I see recent NFKRZ videos ranted about unsolicited message because he's Russian.

People with brain cells know nobody wins in war when it comes to innocent civilians, but eh, I guess it's the internet, one's gotta lack those brain cells.

[verbal junco]

even russians say that the protestors aren't the mainstream. I sympathize with the russians protesting, but it's certainly not everyone who has that viewpoint, or they would be a civil war or riots in the street

maybe over time as the sanctions hit harder

but I think many will double down

[cursive crypt]

We have to know also that they are under informational umbrella for decades.

[verbal junco]

the narratives that are being spun in russia are hardcore propaganda sadly

[cursive crypt]

Brainwashing is really dangerous. Freedom of media... I'm starting to understand this better.

[hollow cobalt]

Any free media?

[cursive crypt]

OnlyFans

[verbal junco]

truly? no.

[deep copper]

it's probably impossible to tell when you get brainwashed and that's sadder

[hollow cobalt]

More or less unbiased?

[cursive crypt]

Well, certainly not the ones from strongly governmental / censured countries.

[mossy nexus]

https://www.stopfake.org/en/fake-ukrainian-missile-destroys-apartment-building-in-kyiv/

[verbal junco]

again I don't think that exists. every media source has a bias, implicit or otherwise. if you can find stats then they are your best bet

[cursive crypt]

It aint' black and white man. There is a degree of dependency.

[verbal junco]

no no it's ukrainian missiles shelling their own people

while their president is trying to defend from russian troops he also wants to shoot his own country in the foot

[cursive crypt]

That morning on russians TVs there were kids show. It was explaining to the little russians how evil is NATO and Europe.

[verbal junco]

yes, a complete justification for a russian invasion

let's go

[hollow cobalt]

What are you info sources? I am curious

[deep copper]

is this what putin meant when he said "Ukrainians are suffering and this invasion is to save people" or something

[verbal junco]

"some people" can just go to russia then

[cursive crypt]

Lets agree it is good strategy. You dense ethnics groups outside your country, then you go "liberate" them.

[verbal junco]

literally right next door

[verbal junco]

@zinc matrix so is this. you're clearly very selective of your viewpoints

right, "nobody is right, nothing is black and white" justifies the ukrainian invasion

I mean

I'm not the one giving out anti Ukrainian sentiments while the ukraine is being invaded by russia

might as well outright say "it's their own fault for being next to russia"

[twin bison]

they are not the first or last country that got invaded
there is nothing we can do about it

[verbal junco]

perhaps, but let's at least not insinuate that ukraine is at fault for being invaded

[twin bison]

i never said that

[verbal junco]

not claiming you did, but it's the least we can do

you care enough to tout information that is easily debunked while asking others to "do your own research". just stop.

all while saying "i'm neutral lol"

[twin bison]

Putin is ready to launch a nuclear war over tensions with the west
why they didn't say anything when Israel did the same thing?

[verbal junco]

you were literally shown an article that contested one of your claims. your credibility is already out the door

but sure, keep thinking you're "neutral" and that ukraine is the bad guy for being invaded

if that isn't being pro russian I don't know what is

[twin bison]

yes that is why you don't support either sides

[foggy echo]

lol

[verbal junco]

right so russia is justified for invading and killing civilians, running sabotage on a large scale, disguising themselves as ukrainian forces, using false flag operations to make it look like ukraine is killing their own people and using propaganda for their own people, making it look like this is all because of the west

gotcha

[deep copper]

information is really easy to manipulate and there's lots of fake stuff because it generates income for those who make it, it would be better to not even trust anything you can research online

[twin bison]

true media using that sh*t

[deep copper]

we will never really know why this is happening, no one will say it absolutely clearly without any bias whatsoever

[verbal junco]

nevermind that the ukrainian president sides with the west, is jewish and being called a "neonazi" by russia

[hollow cobalt]

Watch the video i linked

[deep copper]

yeah so this whole discussion rather lost its meaning, we are all just taking sides with some kind of war propoganda

even if we don't want to

[verbal junco]

even if there are white supremacist militias (which I don't doubt for a second), does this paint the entire country as being neo nazi?

does it justify an invasion?

does it justify killing civilians?

[hollow cobalt]

Why killing russian then?

For 8 years

In Donbass

Russian civillians

[verbal junco]

you mean russians in ukraine?

[hollow cobalt]

Yep

[soft night]

what if resistance what worked with help of russians killing those?

[twin bison]

there will be a world war for water anyways
But at least we know they gonna have skins for their weapons ...

[verbal junco]

nah it's impossible that russia would have any influence over those

it's all ukraine's fault

[soft night]

nothing is impossible

[verbal junco]

(that was sarcasm - poe's law)

[deep copper]

why is russia only after ukr since 2014 tho?

[hollow cobalt]

Ukrainian east in ethnically russian, mostly. They could go for federalization after a 2014 coup in Kiev.

[verbal junco]

because that's when the pro russian president got dethroned in favor of someone who favored the west

[soft night]

I see lots of fixtations in this chat

[cursive crypt]

Aye, very peaceful ppl: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/russian-foreign-minister-accuses-west-of-considering-nuclear-war/

[soft night]

coming from side who use nuclear weapons on talks to the west

[deep copper]

ah, makes sense

[verbal junco]

who btw russia wants to reinstate

[deep copper]

i like how countries can just threaten with nuclear power to do whatever now

[foggy echo]

2017: Trump Recognizes Jerusalem as Israel’s Capital and Orders U.S. Embassy to Move

2022: Biden Recognizes Ukraine as Russia’s Capital and Orders U.S. Embassy to Move

same scenario

[signal dagger]

this is Putin's destiny

[twin bison]

https://tenor.com/view/lmao-dead-weak-lol-lmfao-gif-16296952

[signal dagger]

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/nuke-bomb-clumsy-aircraftcarrier-nuclearbomb-gif-22470192

[ocean parcel]

ahh you guys talking about war again

[verbal junco]

nah, politics

even better

[ocean parcel]

always with the deep topics 😌

[timber viper]

What a weird dilemma, right? 😄

[deep glen]

how about we drop this? kthnxbye

[mossy nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/leigh574-winona-ryder-thumbs-up-gif-14611395

[foggy echo]

who told u its worst xD

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/really-lying-lies-yeah-right-gif-14567054

[timber viper]

Yaaay 🥳 Another IDE war

[twin bison]

we can say its worse when microsoft fixes the lag

[foggy echo]

u called the blue man xD

[timber viper]

You need to say "rider debugger"

[soft night]

Luos is right as always

[tulip orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-gif-20959048

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/zack-snyder-zsjl-batman-hassantaker-gif-18237442

[cursive crypt]

Rice debugger? 🤔

https://tenor.com/view/stirring-cooking-chef-gif-14816120

[neat sluice]

because rider's intellisense sucks compared to VS Intellisense 🙂

[deep copper]

rider is for kid

surprised no one brought it up

[foggy echo]

chads use vs code

[neat sluice]

real men use notepad

[tulip orbit]

a real notepad?

[neat sluice]

Yes. In other words Pen and paper

[twin bison]

what if you execute code directly in your brain

https://tenor.com/view/fire-energy-fat-loss-empowerment-power-gif-15530745

[neat sluice]

When you think about it, our eyes are basically rendering the world in realtime at 60 fps, 4K UHD

[deep copper]

not everyone's

[neat sluice]

Everyone's got an RTX 3090 Ti in their heads 🙂

[tulip orbit]

mines an etch a sketch

[deep copper]

that color scheme of thumbnail goes well with discord embed

[neat sluice]

don't know what that is 🤷‍♂️

[tulip orbit]

🤔

[neat sluice]

Ok googled it

seems like something I should know but I don't

but then I'm (only) 20, this seems like it's way older

[foggy echo]

brother0 and brother1
we got the binary brothers ?

[tulip orbit]

yeah. much older.

[deep copper]

there's also a brother 2

[neat sluice]

Trinary brothers?

[deep copper]

and you can be 3 😎 ! join now!

[quasi mantle]

I thought it was about Metal Gear

Rider hogs memory like a mother

[neat sluice]

what's the lore behind the brothers

[twin bison]

https://tenor.com/view/thebrotherhood-gif-20568162

[quasi mantle]

I never had issue where VS2022 hogs the memory, even though it's now 64-bit and opening UE project

[foggy echo]

cuz it hogs ur cpu

[deep copper]

one day ryobg and CE decided we were brothers, that's all

[quasi mantle]

Sure, I'm a potato, but CPU usage is not bad

At least I managed to get things done with VS2022 compared to Rider.

[foggy echo]

i regret upgrading to windows 11 but i can't go back right now lmao

windows 11 adds to the lag

[quasi mantle]

Huh

[deep copper]

good thing the laptop i use is incompatible with win 11

[quasi mantle]

Does that mean Microsoft had blessing on me?

I had Windows 11 and that mothereffer hardly lag, and considering I'm a potato.

Though maybe it's because I do walk around more often than average computer people might have

[neat sluice]

What's different in Windows 11 though? haven't really seen much
Only thing I heard is it supports Android apps out of the box

[quasi mantle]

Not much, really.

[deep copper]

it lags for one i guess

[quasi mantle]

Thinking it again, maybe because I walk around a lot, I never took the lag seriously

[deep copper]

it also has colorful BSOD errors

i think

not just blue

[twin bison]

the UI looks good but performance is not great
probably ubuntu is the best os with good UI

[quasi mantle]

Windows 11 is Black Screen of Death

[neat sluice]

well then it wouldn't be BSOD, it would be CSOD (colorful screen of death) 😅

[quasi mantle]

Disagree. GNOME hogs performance like a lot in potatoes.

XFCE is better.

[deep copper]

my experience with ubunto wasn't that good...

[quasi mantle]

Also Archvile Linux Master Race

[neat sluice]

Windows xp ftw

[deep copper]

for real? i have seen green and yellow etc i think

[quasi mantle]

I wrote my own malware, I tested a lot of BSOD calls in C++ lmao

[deep copper]

maybe your malware was too strong so it went black

[quasi mantle]

Nah, it's just generic NtRaiseHardError shenanigans

[deep copper]

no idea what that is but i guess it's a pickable color then, and black is default

also

why did you test that out?

[twin bison]

yeah malwares want to be persistant why u need bsod?

xD

[quasi mantle]

Well, I'm developing my own Trojan for fun. It's more closer to the 90s malware compared to today's ransomware

[deep copper]

yeah I can't imagine you go "oh my a new win 11! let's bsod this in every way possible"

[quasi mantle]

I name it

Trojan.Win32.Ecchi

[deep copper]

Trojan that crashes windows?

didn't they just run in bg?

[quasi mantle]

I had it propagate to registry for startup

[deep copper]

also, well, why that name.

[twin bison]

Lots of people get in trouble when developing malwares for fun and then they put it public on github

[deep copper]

as a trojan, is it giving you certain benefits too?

[quasi mantle]

So basically every November, opening NSFW sites will BSOD the computer

Also I put bait image on executable.

[deep copper]

ah, that's awesome

[quasi mantle]

Well, size coding, which kinda requires C and ASM

[deep copper]

it would definitely help a lot of those competing during that month

[quasi mantle]

Just a simple window title detection
I can't make URL reading work on other browsers than Chrome

[foggy echo]

interesting what other ways to detected them ? lol

[twin bison]

i think its just a huge list of IPs or urls

[quasi mantle]

Basically if window title has NSFW keywords, then trigger NtRaiseHardError

[deep copper]

what language are you targetting so far then? English?

[quasi mantle]

Just English

[deep copper]

and .. are you planning to spread it?

[quasi mantle]

Nope.

[deep copper]

not yet huh

[quasi mantle]

Nah, I had conflicted feelings on it, because I initially wanted to target on Genshin Impact players, disguise as a trainer app.
Though I should curb the effect, as it is Trojan, it won't propagate to files anyway

[deep copper]

i see i see, 👍

[twin bison]

i believe that can damage your system and make u lose data
if it gets triggered by mistake

[foggy echo]

why not just use google safe search lol

[deep copper]

that's why it's a malware

[deep copper]

it's to target those who don't i think

[quasi mantle]

I could, but I don't want to entirely destroy the data, just providing minor nuisances. Felt pity tbh

Also the "nuclear" payload is going to be just GDI effect and MBR overwrite, which is easy to fix and won't work with UEFI enabled systems

[deep copper]

and how are you getting the keywords? scraping all tags etc on those websites?

[quasi mantle]

That's not in a plan.

I mainly wrote it just to explore some OS level operation and get my hands dirty on asm x86

[neat sluice]

I heard Performance wasn't good on PC?

[ivory token]

it's um

[knotty skiff]

Yep

[ivory token]

it's okay, but when med quality

high quality is horrible performance-wise

black dots everywhere, chunky, laggy, et cetera

[quasi mantle]

Seems like it, lots of streamer complaining about it

[neat sluice]

yet it's still one of the few good AAA games we've had in a while 🤔
Elden Ring and Horizon Forbidden West are the only AAA games I can think of that did not absolutely sh*t the bed

Every other big developer seems to be hitting rock bottom recently

Cyberpunk, GTA Trilogy, Battlefield 2042

[ivory token]

Horizon Forbidden West, the one where genshin got Aloy from?

[neat sluice]

I don't know Genshin, but yes, Aloy is from Horizon

[ivory token]

cyberpunk never got bugfix patches, did it?

[ivory token]

Genshin Impact is constantly raising in popularity, more so than I expected

[neat sluice]

I don't really play games anymore, just keeping tabs on things

[ivory token]

ya that's fair enough; these days, I have less and less spare time, but i always seem to find time for games xD

[quasi mantle]

No, Genshin made Aloy, Guerilla took it and make a full game

/s

[ivory token]

imagine xD

[neat sluice]

I'm more interested in making games

[ivory token]

+1

[neat sluice]

Just like Marvel took Thanos from Fortnite

[quasi mantle]

Don't get myself ramble about shitty Genshin's business model again

[neat sluice]

um It seems like an MMO?
Aren't those games designed to extract as much money from players as possible

[quasi mantle]

I'd say it's pseudo MMO

It's kinda like Final Fantasy XIV but lootbox centric and not much cooperative aspect.

The appeal is on the waifus characters.

[ivory token]

it's an anime-styled, BOTW-inspired, freedom-oriented RPG

[quasi mantle]

Those who get lucky waifu roll will get sense of pride and accomplishment.

[ivory token]

and everyone hates co-op

[ivory token]

i cry cuz no yae miko ;-;

but a good thing is they don't force u to pay for stuff; they're not EA

[quasi mantle]

One of my project's goal, titled Past Future, is basically a "fuck you" to the lootbox ridden anime game.

Making anime style single player action RPG, with more serious/mature storyline and technically involving, and no lootboxes.

Also I aim my game to be speedrun friendly, which gameplay affecting lootboxes defeats the incentive to speedrun

[foggy path]

if I ever get my video rental store game to steam I will sell a dlc which enables you to have a golden tape box in your store

[north dragon]

instead of selling a sword, you sell a painting of a sword, to show it to enemies and they be fleeing scared

[foggy path]

it should be like.. the sword is held at a storage facility, but you get a piece of a chain which proves you own the sword

lol

[north dragon]

infinity long chain attached to a sword stuck in a stone cement bloke

[deep copper]

why a sword? make it so that the sellers sell an absolutely useless thing, but it's just 1 in the whole world so it's insanely priced, it doesn't do anything though

other than exist maybe

[fleet tangle]

So they're basically NFTs.

[mossy nexus]

no, it's a picture.

[deep glen]

so its an nft?

[mossy nexus]

could be, could be

[deep glen]

rofl, available right trough discord

guy must be getting a stroke

[cursive crypt]

Nah, it is bullocks.

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-white-goodman-ben-stiller-gif-14923363

[thick belfry]

Anythings an NFT if you want it to be

[deep copper]

get well soon man 💐

[left granite]

https://tenor.com/view/fail-as-a-team-team-fail-sinking-ship-salute-sinking-ship-salute-fail-gif-22700399

[foggy path]

I guess nobody still has done an app to pull all video names from a YT playlist.... it used to be possible to recover deleted video names by doing that 🤔

I can't remember where I put my code to do so...

[quasi mantle]

Maybe YT API disallow that now

[foggy path]

No idea

        "description": "This video is unavailable.",```

rip, I think they fixed it

[zinc matrix]

ha. HAHAAHA

when is security NOT a concern?

[foggy path]

Usually when you make a game it isn't

:D

[zinc matrix]

usually?? like when? cheating is a thing lol

though if we are talking pure single player i get it.

statements like in that screenshot are why security is always treated as an afterthought

[foggy path]

what even is "design vulnerability analysis"

we certainly haven't done analysis at work for this lol

[deep copper]

it uses mathematics is all i can tell

[quasi mantle]

When you're a front end web developer but you're making game UI using embedded browser.

[zinc matrix]

its a method of assessing software and its components for vulnerabilities

[foggy path]

well that much you can guess :D

[zinc matrix]

what if you're making an embedded browser in a game what then HUH? @quasi mantle

[zinc matrix]

well you asked and i provided the answer 😛

the key part is the bit about "assessing software and its components"

[foggy path]

never in my entire career do I remember doing any kind of assessing of any kind of security

it's just assumed you should not write SQL injections and that's mostly it... :D

[zinc matrix]

what do you do?

[foggy path]

web apps mostly

[zinc matrix]

oh

cringes what you've just told me makes me lose faith in the web.... haha

[foggy path]

I guess bigger corps might do something

but at least everywhere I worked it was pretty much up to the developer to know what they were doing

[zinc matrix]

i am reading up on software engineering. im trying for a certification. this section is an overview of the following chapters, and in particularr this one covers "software design quality analysis and evaluation"

[foggy path]

best I've ever seen done was code reviews

[verbal junco]

this is genius abusive game design

[zinc matrix]

i believe a good portion of this stuff is done either in research or at higher levels

higher levels of management. ie. senior dev

research translating roughly to "nobody outside of academia"

[foggy path]

i've been on that level for a while and still nope

lol

but keeping in mind I've mostly worked with smaller companies... big corps with big resources and gigantic userbases probably take it more seriously as they face more serious threats

[verbal junco]

pretty sure you'd have a dedicated person or team for this if it was really necessary

or hire blue team to help you out

[foggy path]

probably, and periodic security audits

[verbal junco]

that too

[zinc matrix]

honestly big companies/agencies like Boeing, NASA, Airbus need this sort of thing

[verbal junco]

have you consulted with tehm

[cursive crypt]

software engineering. im trying for a certification
Is it still a thing 🤯 ?

[zinc matrix]

if a plane/spaceship crashes and you cant tell anyone what went wrong. man you are in deep

[verbal junco]

or are you saying they should have something like this

[zinc matrix]

i know for a fact they use these things.

[verbal junco]

what's the role called?

[zinc matrix]

i heard about it at university

[zinc matrix]

software engineer

[verbal junco]

sounds dubious

[zinc matrix]

it is 😛

[verbal junco]

if they had a role like that engineer would be too generic

security expert or something I'd believe

mostly because being good at code isn't enough

[zinc matrix]

NASA/Airbus/Boeing/etc all have stringent requirements put in place by the government for the documentation and proof of correctness of their flight systems

[verbal junco]

that's different though

that's just certification and spec

it doesn't prevent someone from injecting malicious code into their systems

not that anyone would, probably

[zinc matrix]

🤷

[deep copper]

i like the name boeing

three vowels together

[zinc matrix]

actually. more of an assumption than anything. i actually forgot about this. https://hillelwayne.com/post/why-dont-people-use-formal-methods/ people dont really use formal methods in practice

[deep copper]

The Hawaiian word HOOIAIOIA (meaning certified) has eight consecutive vowels

huh

[zinc matrix]

that is the most peculiar coincidenc

[deep copper]

yes lol

The seven letter word 'rhythms' is the longest English word that can be formed without using any vowel feels like cheating because it has Y

[fleet tangle]

Did you know the longest word you can type on the top row of a qwerty keyboard is typewriter?

[deep copper]

The English dictionary word with the most consecutive vowels (six) is EUOUAE, a mnemonic used to recall the sequence of tones in a particular passage of the Gloria Patri.

[zinc matrix]

your guyses word nerd is showing LOL

[deep copper]

for the middle row SHAKALSHAS (10 letters) is the longest word which can be typed using only the middle row of letters on the keyboard. Others include HAGGADAHS, FLAGFALLS, HADASSAHS, GALAGALA, GALAHADS, HASKALAH, and ALFALFAS.

[deep copper]

ah, that's only 1 of the longest word TYPEWRITER, PEPPERROOT, PEPPERWORT, PERPETUITY, PEWTERWORT, PIROUETTER, PREREQUIRE, PRETORTURE, PROPRIETOR, REPERTOIRE, REPETITORY, TETTERWORT.

[fleet tangle]

It's the most interesting one, though.

[deep copper]

it hurts the brain less than dealing with security issues i suppose

[zinc matrix]

im so glad were not talking about urkaine here... i need a break from that headache

[deep copper]

not yet

[zinc matrix]

24 news cycle.cant escape it

[deep copper]

i wish i understood that language

[deep copper]

true, it's everywhere

[zinc matrix]

i need a nap

[verbal junco]

what if it's azerty instead?

[fleet tangle]

Then you're doing it wrong.

[deep copper]

what if it's speech to text

[zinc matrix]

what if its beef jerky

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/beef-jerky-anthony-mennella-culter35-do-you-want-some-beef-jerky-do-you-want-some-gif-17595243

[ocean parcel]

Are you guys still talking about the war?

Either way.

[deep copper]

https://tenor.com/view/poland-gif-11599731

no idea what this is

but it seems like marching through

[zinc matrix]

Badass land

[verbal junco]

probably that time poland ceased to exist

[zinc matrix]

at least poland put up a fight in ww2, heh

[deep copper]

7 countries on border wow

China shares its border with 10 other countries.

well china is way bigger

[ocean parcel]

I think that's when Germany and Russia invaded Poland in 1939.

[verbal junco]

sure, but WW2 isn't the first time it had to fight for its existence

[verbal junco]

yeah but not every border is easily accessible. the silk road had to go through the hexi corridor for instance, since the himalaya mountain range prevents access from the southwest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexi_Corridor

[ocean parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/screenshot-poland-meme-gif-22789074

This is dope.

[deep copper]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Poland

[ocean parcel]

Almost got it.

I got Greenland.

[deep copper]

too difficult

[deep copper]

so poland is way more epic

[ocean parcel]

wait i just relaised I think it's rigged so you can't get it.

[deep copper]

it's smaller, easy routes

[deep copper]

gotta go frame by frame i suppose or something

[ocean parcel]

well, i think it's meant to make you think you can do it, but i think actually it never gets to the polish flag.

[verbal junco]

nah I got it

[ocean parcel]

you did!>

!?

[deep copper]

send proof

but it's possible it's rigged as well

[ocean parcel]

oh wow

also i love that you actually played the game.

[verbal junco]

had to get it twice

didn't screenshot the first time

[ocean parcel]

i was gonna make a joke of posting a screenshot but replacing the flag with the nazi flag and saying 'aw man, i got 1939.' but idk if you can post swastikas here.

[verbal junco]

probably unwise

[deep copper]

you are quick

[verbal junco]

I got the reaction skills of a drunk, I just don't think it's that hard

[ocean parcel]

OOOOH I GOT IT

okay now let's try and get Indonesia.

[deep copper]

i guess i will try as well

[verbal junco]

russian oligarch superyachts have been seized

I wish I could get one of those

just live on a yacht

[deep copper]

nope I can't do it, i am just spamming my storage with this -_-

[verbal junco]

probably sucks in a storm

but still

[deep copper]

won't you get seasick

[verbal junco]

for the first month maybe

after that you get used to it

[deep copper]

btw can you swim?

[verbal junco]

or die, I suppose

moderately I guess? I can move horizontally in water without drowning

[deep copper]

o

then i guess you will be fine

[ocean parcel]

Are you a cheater or Australian?

[signal citrus]

Lmao

[verbal junco]

perhaps both

[signal citrus]

Wish I was Australian

[verbal junco]

how come?

[deep copper]

gives you a new perspective huh

[signal citrus]

Been looking at staying in Indonesia and flights are 53 hours long from the states

[deep copper]

that's more than 2 days wha

[signal citrus]

If you’re lucky you can get one @26hrs

It’s a time difference of 13hrs

But yeah I mean 23hrs of travel

Most flights have a day or more of stops tho

[ocean parcel]

Why do you want to stay in Indonesia?

[signal citrus]

People

[verbal junco]

that's excessive. what makes you want to go indonesia?

[signal citrus]

But it looks nice too

[ocean parcel]

They don't have people in your country?

[signal citrus]

Not the people whom in Indonesia no

[ocean parcel]

I knew the Emu's hit you hard but I didn't know it was a genocide.

[ocean parcel]

What's so special about Indonesians? 🤔

I'm very curious.

[signal citrus]

Lmao