lounge

[foggy path]

is there an anime about garbage trucks

[deep copper]

manny's game ideas come anime

from*

[foggy path]

truck-kun, or about just garbage collectors in general

...I mean probably not right

[verbal junco]

何も、何でも、全部

[deep copper]

there is one

[foggy path]

lol

of course

[deep copper]

not sure about garbage trucks tho

[signal citrus]

[celest musk]

talking about manny game ideas

we need the manny game jam

A cute rhythm game where you jump on a rodent of unusual size in a basement.

[verbal junco]

nasty

[deep copper]

aww shoo cute and adorable

that sounds actually possible though

as in, success possible

it's not in a basement

like i said, Manny's game ideas come from anime

[signal citrus]

There should be a game about how sharp glass is

[verbal junco]

hmm

needs to be physics based then

[signal citrus]

It could be

[deep copper]

knowing anime, it might as be something abstract

well*

i am missing a lot of words today

[verbal junco]

hello missing a lot of words today

[deep copper]

haha i did not see that coming

[verbal junco]

nobody ever does

[deep copper]

dad jokes get you when you least expect them

[signal citrus]

Idk when I stepped on glass tbh

[deep copper]

it's a maymay i can get behind

[deep copper]

whenever it felt painful

unless you weren't barefoot

[signal citrus]

Must have stepped on glass laying on the couch

Er

Whilst laying

[zinc matrix]

Or worse; a lego

[verbal junco]

a game where you are a piece of lego trying to position yourself to be stepped on

[deep copper]

you didn't step on the glass, the glass stepped on you

[verbal junco]

creating the perfect trap

[zinc matrix]

I once stepped on a rusty nail and somehow I didn't bleed from it

[deep copper]

that sounds interesting

[zinc matrix]

Guess I got lucky

[deep copper]

that takes more than luck....

[verbal junco]

would you believe I do this for a living

[signal citrus]

You need Lego sandal designation

But like a new pair because yeah

[deep copper]

you position yourself to be ....?

[zinc matrix]

Legos are another reason I don't want to have kids

[celest musk]

lego's are the only good reason to get kids

so you have an excuse to play with lego

[verbal junco]

you can just buy lego you know

[celest musk]

shhh

[zinc matrix]

You say that now, but once you step on one that they leave on the floor, you'll regret it

[signal citrus]

I would like kids no matter the Lego situation tbh

[celest musk]

ok, so theres no good reason to get kids, gotcha

[verbal junco]

anyway I like the idea of lego but I'm way too much of a minimalist to ever buy some

[zinc matrix]

I mean we already have 7 billion people and most don't even have acceptable living situations...do we really need more?

[verbal junco]

case? your hardware components are made of lego

[deep copper]

legos are kinda relaxing to step on tho, if not stepped with full force

[verbal junco]

lego CPU

[zinc matrix]

More people = more suffering

It may sound morbid, but it's true

[verbal junco]

ah here we go again

[signal citrus]

Well it’s only more people if you have more than two people

[zinc matrix]

Nah, I'll just end it there

[signal citrus]

If you have one person then your still less people

[deep copper]

just make kids out of lego

win win

[verbal junco]

my cousin had a kid so that frees me from the responsibility of having one

woop

bloodline secured or some such

[deep copper]

just adopt a grown one, no more dealing with the annoying child stage

[signal citrus]

Am the end of the bloodline currently

[verbal junco]

I'll take a mechanical puppy

or kitten

or owlet

[deep copper]

lego puppy

[zinc matrix]

How bout a baby orangutan?

[deep copper]

lol if it hugs all good

[verbal junco]

no monke business

[zinc matrix]

Yes, but who cares? They're the cutest creature on Earth

Eh good point

It is a bucket list item of mine to hold one though

[celest musk]

hold a slave?

boy

[zinc matrix]

I guess if I wanted to do it ethically, I'd have to travel to Borneo and hold one at a rescue center

[celest musk]

stop it

[zinc matrix]

No, a baby orangutan

I'd like to free a slave if I could though

[celest musk]

start with yourself

[verbal junco]

just one

[zinc matrix]

At least one

[zinc matrix]

Wym? I'm not a slave

[verbal junco]

I could buy one but I couldn't feed them

[zinc matrix]

Why would you want to though? It's immoral

[torpid star]

https://twitter.com/instant_grat/status/1489695026783342599

Pocklecool (@instant_grat)

random sensory flashback to the Bioshock Infinite DLC where they wanted to communicate to the player "you are in Paris, France" so they put a little kid in the game dancing around in the street while holding a baguette over his head https://t.co/E77jzW0Air

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[verbal junco]

you could free it after buying

[celest musk]

not if you free them

[zinc matrix]

So you want to buy a slave just so I can free them from you?

[verbal junco]

yes and make the slave stocks go up

[zinc matrix]

That's still immoral

But whatever

I don't wanna go down this rabbit hole again

[deep copper]

it's like those that buy pets then free them

[verbal junco]

buy rare expensive fish from local pet store
free it at local watering hole
see it devoured by the local population within minutes

[zinc matrix]

But yeah, holding a baby orangutan ethically would be awesome

[deep copper]

i wonder if it's possible to kiss them

[verbal junco]

this is how aids started

[celest musk]

wouldn't they rip off your face unless they are somehow domesticated/socialized?

[zinc matrix]

You could; they like kisses

[deep copper]

as in, get out alive too

[zinc matrix]

Well I'd wear a mask and gloves since diseases can be transmitted

[zinc matrix]

Well a baby couldn't

An adult could though

[verbal junco]

depends on the monke

[zinc matrix]

They are; he's probably thinking of chimpanzees

[verbal junco]

bonobos are chill

[zinc matrix]

Those are nasty motherfuckers

[deep copper]

they should also have personality ig

[zinc matrix]

Nah, I wouldn't mess with a chimp

They're monsters

[deep copper]

those are all monsters

i meant otsghby

orangutan*

[zinc matrix]

Nah, even though an orangutan could cause serious damage if they wanted to, they're usually chill and avoid confrontation

Chimps, on the other hand, will rip your face and nuts off

Orangutan attacks are rare

Chimp attacks are well documented

[verbal junco]

we're back to the chimp conversation

it's either chimps, slavery or ethics

[zinc matrix]

Fine; I'll drop it

[celest musk]

even if you are in their territory?

[zinc matrix]

Actually, I better fuck off

I got boring-ass homework to do

[verbal junco]

good luck

[zinc matrix]

Later

[celest musk]

i guess the silverback (wait thats gorilla, isn't it?) is gonna flip you a mile

[deep copper]

goodluck!

[deep copper]

i don't know monkeys too well but anything that's an animal is unpredictable to me

if it speaks a language i can understand, only then can i feel slightly safe

[celest musk]

yea, but they are kinda socialized, as they grew up with humans around

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/flushed-rotate-small-gif-20667577

but sure

[deep copper]

yes

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/pinkiepie-gif-4767460

[deep copper]

jump scare material

[deep copper]

this is much more sweeter haha

i guess the sudden white background with yellow which is defocused is a bit scary for me

[verbal junco]

that game will scar you

[deep copper]

what game is that?

[verbal junco]

used to be called spooky's house of jumpscares

now it's called something else

but something similar

I'm naive enough to think it makes a difference

[signal citrus]

I don’t think it’s glass

[deep copper]

Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion

[verbal junco]

there you go

[deep copper]

lego?

[verbal junco]

it starts out nice and fluffy at least

[signal citrus]

Idk

[verbal junco]

and then fast tracks you into nightmare fuel

https://store.steampowered.com/app/356670/Spookys_Jump_Scare_Mansion/

Steam

Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion

Can you survive 1000 rooms of cute terror? Or will you break once the cuteness starts to fade off and you're running for your life from the unspeakable hideous beings that shake and writhe in bowels of this house? They wait for you, they wait and hunger for meeting you. They long to finally meet you and show you how flexible your skin can be aft...

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[deep copper]

it's a 2014 game Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion is full of, well, jump scares, but it also has a lot of hidden references and interactive moments. On the surface, Spooky's Jump Scare Mansion looks like a cute game. ... But underlying the foundations of the game is actually a masterpiece of little frights.

[verbal junco]

you're in luck

accurate

[deep copper]

it's probably one of those that make you let your guard down, then scare you, like CE's gif

why they changed names around July of last year we received a cease & desist for using the name “Spooky's House of Jump Scares” because a company called “Spooky House Studios” is trying to get the trademark for “Spooky House”.

[verbal junco]

yeah I heard something about that

[celest musk]

they didn't even had it yet?

they where probably concerned that they wouldn't be able to trademark it if a simple google search shows up that it's a ripoff

[deep copper]

it's probably old news, as they changed name

[deep copper]

that sounds possible

[celest musk]

😄

how the turns tabled

[verbal junco]

the spooker has become the spookee

[deep copper]

i still can't tell the difference in name lol, as i keep forgetting what it changed to

[verbal junco]

just play the game

and forget the name

to give in would be a shame

[deep copper]

ah okay, they got rid of "house" so it's no longer same

[deep copper]

it actually looks short and fun, and i am bad with horror looking stuff, but this seems decent

ayo how did the beer go

[verbal junco]

classic beer

[ocean parcel]

hi guys what's happening!??!?!?!?!?!?

[alpine zodiac]

Is there a logarithmic rollof option for sound in ue5?

[verbal junco]

that's a damn good question for #ue5-general

[inner marlin]

It's my first post as a tagged employee, I wanted to make it a good one.

I've been lurking, and occasionally posting here, for a while.

[celest musk]

for a moment i thought it was in #cpp because there was 5 gifs posted one after another

and blue man posted

all flags for #cpp

[deep copper]

rider?

[celest musk]

did that happen?

xD

[verbal junco]

I've only been stricken once

[celest musk]

same

[verbal junco]

so I'm counting my blessings

[deep copper]

do you get muted with strike or after 3 strike or something

ah rip

[verbal junco]

straight to jail

no trial

[celest musk]

no cooldown?

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[deep copper]

wait aren't you all pretty close fo ban then?

[verbal junco]

better to have lived a risky life than to never have lived at all

[celest musk]

they are only around on the 1st and 2nd of each month?

[deep copper]

ah okay, so within 30 days you need to renew your badge but make sure you don't have too many badges

[celest musk]

can you check them somehow?

[verbal junco]

!strike

I guess that doesn't work

[deep copper]

i am crytal clean as well, but again i am in #lounge and everything is allowed here because off topic

[verbal junco]

#lounge is the safe harbor

#cpp is the open sea

[celest musk]

not everything

[deep copper]

everything within common sense*

[verbal junco]

(tm)

[deep copper]

©️

[verbal junco]

™️

[celest musk]

™️

[deep copper]

™️

[celest musk]

you changed my life

to the positive for once

[verbal junco]

º¿º

[deep copper]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

that matches with your pfp so well, the chaos

this i meant

[verbal junco]

▬│┐

reminds me of TIM

[deep copper]

this would be good workout

[celest musk]

the incredible machine?

[verbal junco]

yes

[celest musk]

a man of culture

also thought of it

[verbal junco]

used to be my favorite game back in the day

[celest musk]

^^

[verbal junco]

generally I loved games that would allow me to do level design

[deep copper]

▬│┐
▬││┐

[celest musk]

so i guess you played modded minecraft

[verbal junco]

minecraft didn't exist until I was already an adult

I played stuff like JETPACK!

[celest musk]

thats no excuse

[verbal junco]

which was like mario maker before mario maker existed

also shoutouts to mario maker 2 for being a decent game

[celest musk]

that looks familiar

i think i've played that, too

but not much

[verbal junco]

lmao I love the fgc. I have no idea what this game is though

[celest musk]

i bet you would love modded minecraft, even as adult

[deep copper]

so far you mean

[verbal junco]

last game I played with level design was cities skylines. the first time I booted it up I didn't realize 24 hours passed

it felt like an instant

[deep copper]

that must have been really good game for you

[verbal junco]

I think there's good stuff in between. but it's up to you

[deep copper]

how does that even work? how do you have enough players for more first rounds?

[verbal junco]

nah it sucked, I uninstalled the day after

[deep copper]

haha

[celest musk]

just that rider doesn't suck

so guess who does in that combination

😛

[verbal junco]

I think around 300 you get into the nitty gritty

and 600 is pretty decent too if I remember correctly

it's been years though

300-450-600

also some of the side encounters are 👌 👌 👌

[celest musk]

@zinc matrix since you don't allow DM's.... don't take anything personal, i'm just joking around

[verbal junco]

almost as if they are... british 🤔

[celest musk]

yea, was quite a lot of lorash bashing today 😛

[deep copper]

ah, so for existing players they did that?

[celest musk]

so what you are saying is that if you cut off the meme stuff you still wouldn't recommend rider to anyone (except maybe for linux users)

[deep copper]

exceptions, they exist for anything

[verbal junco]

except in blueprints, where they can't be found 😔

somehow that sounds worse than not having them

[celest musk]

but it also sounds like something that one wouldn't be surprised of as a base feature of BP

[verbal junco]

well one would have thought that generics would be a base feature of BP

but tbh maybe it's better that it isn't given how many people can't figure out blueprints even without them

I miss the days of tick > get all actors > foreach

after the foreach 😎

or rather, inside of it

[celest musk]

just wait for 5.0 release

[verbal junco]

the floodgates

[celest musk]

that will flood #blueprint with onTick stuff

[verbal junco]

it'll be a hard line to hold

every #blueprint soulja will fall

[celest musk]

https://tenor.com/view/you-did-it-willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-you-made-it-great-job-well-done-gif-21443346

[verbal junco]

release this as a plugin and sell it on the market place. you'll make millions!

[celest musk]

i like it as much as i hate it

[deep copper]

invest in it

it will grow, maybe with a small delay

[verbal junco]

too late, the damage will have been done

[celest musk]

because the fly looks like venom?

[verbal junco]

I thought they were selling an actual bug

kinda disappointed

probably

[clear cape]

looks hilarious tbh

there are plenty alien-like models over there

not like their heads patented

[verbal junco]

I should think of some random garbage I can put on the market place for some additional income

maybe like a BP iterator macro

(with a delay, obviously)

[clear cape]

just submit a pr to convert pure into impure nodes

[verbal junco]

that is true tbh, people would gobble this up

[clear cape]

we all will add like

[verbal junco]

are you saying to monopolize the pure node market?!

[celest musk]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/low-entry-extended-standard-library this already does some nasty pure stuff

also latent actions

did lorash reinvent the wheel?

[verbal junco]

love it

[timber viper]

what the

[deep copper]

for when you need to crash the game real quick

[unreal cedar]

Useful for testing your crash handling

Some of you may think I'm joking. This is legit something that needs to be done on big titles.

[verbal junco]

that's fair

I'd put it on a random timer

[celest musk]

i should go sleep

didn't read big titles

[unreal cedar]

Crash reporting pipelines are legit hard to verify and making sure they work end-to-end is important.

[deep copper]

how about you combine that with ontick and put that on marketplace

[unreal cedar]

no one can say that your level design is shit if they crash every time they load in

[verbal junco]

you're right but it doesn't fit into our get rich quick scheme

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[unreal cedar]

10/10 crashes on every level load but it might have the best level design in history
-ign

[timber viper]

lmao

🤣

[deep copper]

Schrodinger's level design

[celest musk]

xD

[deep copper]

did you finish it?

i see i see

what's it about?

[verbal junco]

150 is pretty tame

[deep copper]

so far

[verbal junco]

I don't remember anything happening before 300

other than cutesy stuff

[celest musk]

toast on cardboard

[deep copper]

haha no wonder it got boring after 150 times

[verbal junco]

I think you can run into some of the side encounters before then but they may be rare

[celest musk]

note to myself put a cute toast in game

[verbal junco]

||290ish|| starts an encounter

[deep copper]

for those that have good memory, it probably is

[verbal junco]

be patient. respect the woods

[deep copper]

||you tapped/clicked this||

oh n o

[verbal junco]

|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

[deep copper]

i got more than 3 badges at once

[deep copper]

that's satisfying to tap

[timber viper]

So sadistic

[deep copper]

haha that was so good though

i got to the bomb quite soon ...

but other than that! it was good to tap

[verbal junco]

I dieded

[celest musk]

@deep copper so i just noticed one thing.... <#lounge message>

now read your own "about me" in discord

also lorash noticed one thing more

[timber viper]

cheat sheet

[verbal junco]

I tried again but I didn't want to go through the army of 0s

speaking of minesweeper

how's everyone on wordle?

[deep copper]

AAAAAAAA

i was nearly there

[verbal junco]

https://www.powerlanguage.co.uk/wordle/ (it's the same word for everyone)

[deep copper]

ah, that's written in there so that i can enforce it and try bypassing the exceptions, but well, exceptions are exceptions, i get blocked

i forgot the bottom 2 oof

this is what happens when you get hasty

[deep copper]

i got the last 4 letters, missed the first :(

[verbal junco]

that one I finished on the 6th attempt

[deep copper]

i couldn't come up with a new word during the 4-5th try, so couldn't eliminate new letters

[verbal junco]

just think of random words that don't use letters that you have used before

it's a process of elimination

[deep copper]

i was trying that, just couldn't think of much without vowels i got rid of those quite early and tried finding correct location, but now that i think of it, i should have left guessing location towards the end

[verbal junco]

I like to use the first 3 attempts to get rid of as many letters as possible

[deep copper]

that sounds like a good strategy, i will definitely try that next time

[verbal junco]

it refreshes every day

good luck

[deep copper]

do you play it everyday?

[verbal junco]

yeah it's a nice little 5 min game

perfect for a break

[deep copper]

then, i will let you know how it goes tommorow, if i remember it

[verbal junco]

||c||||h||||e||||a||||t||||e||||r||

[deep copper]

that was what it was for me today?

[verbal junco]

okay it's not the word I had

🤔

[deep copper]

weird, (and i am talking about the word before the edit lol)

(no i didn't click)

[verbal junco]

today's word was ||made you look||

[deep copper]

that's definitely longer than 5 letters

[faint dock]

i'am removing and adding a button to UHorizontalBox as the release event won't fire when it gets collapsed while still being pressed
how's your day going?

[deep copper]

decent

[faint dock]

good to hear 😄

[deep copper]

your brackets are giving me anxiety 😖

[faint dock]

sorry

[deep copper]

dw it's okay, atleast inside them is a warm loving greeting

[faint dock]

mods changed my name. and what one wizard has done, others can't undo

[deep copper]

ah, you have been, cursed so to speak

[faint dock]

i know

namen sind schall und rauch

[ocean parcel]

hi champs what's up

[ocean parcel]

oh cool, you're a german!?

[faint dock]

i live in GER

[ocean parcel]

what is it like in GER

are you Austrian?

[faint dock]

it's ... german here

idk

different than austria

but then again also very similar

[ocean parcel]

do you have taxus baccata yew seeds in GER!?!?

[faint dock]

never heard of them

[verbal junco]

full of germs, last I heard

😎

[ocean parcel]

and Mans 😂 😂 😂 😂 👌 💯 😂 😂

[faint dock]

here, have brezn

[verbal junco]

I miss lauge

although we can technically get it over here

[verbal junco]

it's not quite the same

[ocean parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-german-flag-germany-trikot-gif-12218101

[verbal junco]

a jerman sheperd in a jerman hat

[ocean parcel]

zonikers

did i walk into an FBI meeting!?

oh is that like a buffy the vampire slayer spinoff?

[quasi mantle]

||I should catch up with it on weekend||

[quasi mantle]

||No. At least I have yet to spot Demon Slayer character that is actually muscular||

[ocean parcel]

i tell ya, that buffy sure is pretty

a rather attractive young lady, if i do say so

[quasi mantle]

||Hullo me old chum! I'm g'not a gn'elf, I'm g'not a g'n'oblin, · I'm a gn'ome! And you've been, GNOOOOMED!||

[ocean parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/gnome-yeahilift-tb-gif-22122077

[quasi mantle]

||It's interesting to read out loud Gnomed copy pasta in thicc Javanese accent||

[unreal cedar]

||Well it's gnot a gnelf||

[quasi mantle]

||Yes he is. I looked at the search log for gnome before this||

[ocean parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/black-ops2-bo2-black-ops-cod-call-of-duty-gif-23105934

oh jeeze, this gif takes me back.

playing Black Ops II with my high school chums was one of the best times of my life.

[quasi mantle]

||Only played BO2 campaign tbh. Never get into MP COD before.||

[ocean parcel]

I likewise used to only play COD for the campaign.

I remember being shocked when I was playing the MP with my best friend and he said he hadn't played the campaign yet.

[zinc matrix]

multiplayer? UT with bots is just as good if not better

[ocean parcel]

To me that was just like standard.

I used to ask one of my chums, 'so have you finished the campaign yet?' and he would say 'champagne? what champagne!?'

I do declare BO2's campaign to be the BEST campaign ever in a COD game though.

I feel so privileged to have gotten a PS3 just in time to experience BO2.

[quasi mantle]

||For multiplayer, I'd prefer good ol classic Doom and UT. I don't know, maybe it's just because of my boomer mind, but I also casually play Fortnite.||

[ocean parcel]

Oh you play Fortnite? I have a deep desire to insult you now but I shan't.

then again y'all talk about slavery and the deep issues of life.

Speaking of which,

https://tenor.com/view/wth-is-life-fml-itzy-gif-22236343

This gif fascinates me.

It brings a woeful tear to my eye when I garner a new device.

I ruin so many friendships, it brings a woeful tear to my eye.

[zinc matrix]

reject anime embrace bollywood

[quasi mantle]

||Bollywood movies with intense CGI is basically Indian anime||

[zinc matrix]

Yeah that's because you only know about the meme bollywood

[quasi mantle]

To be fair, I know some bollywood movie because Corridor reacts and analyse them

Personally I'm not a fan of Indian entertainment outside of memes.

Ouch, that VFX jank 😢

Can't unsee it 😭

Also 10 jump cuts in that clip, not a big fan of excessive jump cuts

[zinc matrix]

~~Yeah at least it's funnier than a screenshot of some anime + some 'relatable' caption🙂 ~~

[median wraith]

That soap operas comes now more from india and that areas for some reason

[quasi mantle]

If it has JRPG effects thrown in, then it has to be Indian soap opera

[median wraith]

Spandian

oh man I have to call my son like that

What you say

You can buy kids now

[quasi mantle]

Child trafficking huh

[median wraith]

I mean is legal you know

but they don't call it purchase cuz sounds bad

<Is this a NFTs?>

[tribal cipher]

guys, can anyone help me in the ai channel?

[ocean parcel]

hi pogchamps!

what's ducking?

😂😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 💯 😆 👌 👌 😂 😂 😂 😂

[burnt lake]

||@quasi mantle why are we wispering?||

[foggy path]

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[trail wedge]

no I've been driving my self crazy trying to put the finishing touches on this plugin

thumbnail seemed fine until I looked at the settings view

[knotty skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/176089853249716225/940135924245880862/video0_53.mov

[zinc matrix]

Kind of a meta question, what would you use to "decompose" a massive project like a game into its small components, and keep things organized?

Like you know, decomposing a game into gameplay, audio, graphics, logic, multiplayers etc so that we can keep track on what we're working and what to work for?

Best thing I can think of is a huge whiteboard and a tree topology lol

Like, physical folders or computer folders?

We kinda already do that inside unreal tho

I'm assuming it would be a different set of folders

[tulip orbit]

seperate teammates for each component, break fingers if they touch a different component

[last matrix]

Some kind of planning software. Literally the job of a producer. Couple that with source control.

[night grove]

Are you trying to fix an unorganized project or keep a fresh project organized?

Project organization is a never ending balancing act between "good enough", "too much time spent organizing", and "absolute chaos"

[verbal junco]

jira is kind of the staple for this

[timber viper]

Use modules or plugins in UE4, and use a project management service

Jira/Asana/Trello

[zinc matrix]

anyone knows if dying light 2 uses stuff like lumen?

[timber viper]

Assuming from Digital Foundry's video they dont have any tech similar to Lumen

They have a system similar to blueprint though

Interesting

CE liked this

[left granite]

https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-pizza-gif-6074641

[quasi mantle]

Where is this screenshot come from?

[timber viper]

https://wccftech.com/the-big-dying-light-2-qa-techland-opens-up-on-c-engine-tech-delays-game-length-much-more/

[cursive crypt]

https://www.cityam.com/mark-zuckerberg-and-team-consider-shutting-down-facebook-and-instagram-in-europe-if-meta-can-not-process-europeans-data-on-us-servers/

[quasi mantle]

Meta do be free falling

[cursive crypt]

Definitely they need the USA laws to chew on that sweet user data.

[deep copper]

is meta guilt tripping? "no data for us? no meta for you HMPH!"

[last matrix]

remember when tariffs were about weapons of mass destruction? now it's.... well

wait ppl in europe use fb? like not-housewives?

[deep copper]

haha yes

[deep copper]

i always wondered how they get meat in Pokemon world

[knotty skiff]

Average Vegan

[last matrix]

so its already dead... right?

[median wraith]

I mean every engine does since 10 years ago

[deep copper]

it's sleeping

[median wraith]

They have some kind of probes for occlusion only

Dying light 1 does too

You can easy notice there are no bounces but occlusions, it total fit with the horror theme

[median wraith]

they released editor with this one too?

[deep copper]

i have always noticed a lot of heavy ambient occlusion stuff in horror

[median wraith]

flat black shadows*

[cursive crypt]

Who you are calling fat?

[last matrix]

I mean... they usually faint after a battle..

[median wraith]

didn't knew the Olympics were in chernobyl

[quasi mantle]

They already guilt tripping on users who use anti tracking features

[deep copper]

what do you mean? i don't actually use any meta things so i am not aware

[deep copper]

haha they really are into emotionally trapping people,

[deep copper]

i actually dont think most of their users even read that or care about that

yeah i mean, what will they do? abandon their friends and family? that's how meta has set themselves up

[foggy path]

I think "most people" don't even read those and just click whatever button is offered to get to their app

and yeah, good luck convincing all your FB friends to move to another platform

because now you need to also convince their friends, and their friends' friends...

[deep copper]

and they will probably move to another platform already purchased by meta...

[zinc matrix]

Watch as they all move to discord

Imagine the reputation of discord if that were to happen

[foggy path]

I wouldn't assume Discord doesn't sell all data to FB anyway

because they probably do

[zinc matrix]

It's a pain to even agree upon a platform to use anyway

[deep copper]

discord is also into the data collection game i have heard

and i haven't read discord tos...

i guess that's what's happening in Europe

[zinc matrix]

Their reign is hopefully coming to an end

[deep copper]

then the next big platform will start doing what they were to make some quick cash

just in a bit of a different way maybe

[zinc matrix]

youtube isn't going away anytime soon

as much as we hate them for various reasons

we still enjoy the content that some post

[deep copper]

yt has collected a ton of resources, it can pretty much do anything and people won't have much valid alternative, because the alternatives don't have years of vids

[zinc matrix]

when I say some I mean like 0.1%

[cursive crypt]

Google Earth crashed and deleted all my bookmarks 😱

[zinc matrix]

uh oh

[foggy path]

Most of the youtube alternatives I've seen recently seem to be filled with alt-right bs

:P

[zinc matrix]

yeah well

[foggy path]

It does not make me want to move to using any of them

[deep copper]

yeah idk about it but it's really more about, they don't have the videos you are looking for

[verbal junco]

it's dead

also completely unaffected, sue me

[deep copper]

it's died, is fresh, probably sqealed behind camera

[foggy path]

Yeah don't have to scroll much on Odysee's front page until you see "the war on joe rogan" lol

...I guess it could be worse

to be fair it seems there's more other kinds of videos on the frontpage than that kind of nonsense

[verbal junco]

there's a war on joe rogan?

[zinc matrix]

I can live with mild extremity on whichever side

[deep copper]

it will take a few years, and maybe at some point creators would transfer vids there, if it doesn't dies early and doesn't turns into another yt

[zinc matrix]

But not when it's rampant

[deep copper]

unless google buys odysee like it buys anything unbought

if they refuse google might try other methods to bring it down, but that's only if it ever sees it as a potential rival ig

[zinc matrix]

would kind of defeat the purpose of their goal is to be more independent

[deep copper]

i would really like another platform where we get features we request and not random things

so if yt gets a rival, good for us

maybe it will make them work a bit harder

[zinc matrix]

stuff like nebula exists, but that's for good quality entertainment stuff and nothing else

[median wraith]

Watching a video of Dying Light with and without RT and all looks worst to me until reached this part

[deep copper]

ikr? now i have to watch trash to figure out if it's trash

hopefully the other platforms don't start doing that as well

but again, if they don't do anything it could get bad for them, legally

[verbal junco]

which platform?

[deep copper]

yt alternatives

haha exactly!

[verbal junco]

are there genuinely any?

[zinc matrix]

there won't be any if you don't support the development of them

[verbal junco]

I stopped using facebook in the new year

[deep copper]

not any real good but unfunny meme poster says odysee is good

like, decent

[verbal junco]

odysee starting in light mode
already bleeding points here

[zinc matrix]

and?

light mode is not the end of the world XD

[verbal junco]

new england clam chowder in 1 minute though

[deep copper]

wait what? that's interesting

[verbal junco]

quality content

[verbal junco]

wrong

[deep copper]

those who don't use light mode just can't use it anymore, once you go dark, you don't want to return to the light, like me

[verbal junco]

takes me back to when I used to work in a place where people preferred lights off and light mode on

no lights, no light mode

kill the sun

[deep copper]

in the sunlight light mode works

[zinc matrix]

yep

[deep copper]

or rather, dark mode doesn't works in sunlight

[zinc matrix]

of course light mode is bad if you live in a basement

[deep copper]

i have seen people use light mode at night , max brightness then complain about dry eyes etc

[verbal junco]

I live in a basement that is well lit on the third floor and light mode is bad

[zinc matrix]

ah well

[verbal junco]

f.lux is a lifesaver

[deep copper]

for reading and stuff yeah

[verbal junco]

also genuinely the only light mode I'll accept

[deep copper]

never used that so idk

will check

[verbal junco]

it's an automatic redshift app

I wouldn't know I switched to dark mode day one and kept it at that ever since

[deep copper]

ah i see

[verbal junco]

I'm not into checking light mode just incase it doesn't suck

[deep copper]

discord light mode is actually a bit too bright

they went full #fff on that

[deep copper]

haha okay

i don't actually know but it feels that bright

if you press it enough, flashlight turns on

the devs knew

[verbal junco]

are they still your friend?

I don't befriend light mode users

[deep copper]

ah, i see why he is still your friend

[verbal junco]

just send him one of those "friendship ended" memes

he'll understand

nah I keed

[deep copper]

just send him some dark theme and pull him into the void

[verbal junco]

just ignore it and subtly build up feelings of resentment against him until you realize you actually hate the guy

[deep copper]

just start spending less time with him

he will take the hint

[zinc matrix]

bruh

[verbal junco]

#killthesun

[deep copper]

weren't you absolutely against it?

[zinc matrix]

I forgot that I have my monitor very warmly coloured

what is it without it...

[deep copper]

dont

don't do it stutter, we need you

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-gif-20277729

random gif

OWWWW

[deep copper]

is that a bell?

[zinc matrix]

I feel so...

ALERT

[verbal junco]

youtube notifications be like

[median wraith]

on city enviorments the raytraced glass makes a huge difference tbh

[zinc matrix]

I can see why blue light keeps you up now

[median wraith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tloid3bJlw&ab_channel=RayTracingRevolution

seems like subsurface elements aren't implemented

[verbal junco]

0/10 reviews incoming

[cursive crypt]

Speculative tracing

[stiff crystal]

gotta love this pitch black RT filter

like, the whole scene lighting is different now

[verbal junco]

you guys really like going into graphic detail

[cursive crypt]

Are you new here?

[median wraith]

Yeah it breaks some scenes, the same person have other video

[verbal junco]

yes

yes I am

[median wraith]

if you check the other one you can see how the first scenes looks better without RT

[torpid star]

that's GI for you

[cursive crypt]

RT is glorified tech sell

[torpid star]

does the game a day and night cycle? If they baked the lighting it looks terrible

[verbal junco]

if I bought a car I wouldn't comb every inch of the lacquer just to ensure that it is pristine

[median wraith]

Be honest RT does a better job, the problem is SSS isn't implemented here, also seems to don't take sun color in account in many areas or the shadows are super saturated

[stiff crystal]

from Digital Foundry's video from the same game:

isn't it nice that games from 2022 still look like Oblivion?

[torpid star]

maybe they went with no baked GI

[stiff crystal]

Dying Light 2 apparently

[torpid star]

Looks good to me

[median wraith]

I mean the realtime reflections do a key note everywhere in the city

[cursive crypt]

What are you comparing for?

[torpid star]

dang those lightmaps are low res

[deep copper]

yeah exactly

[cursive crypt]

Aye, can be better - is it worth it? Likely, no.

[median wraith]

This game don't have lightmaps

[stiff crystal]

people use blue light filters btw?

[torpid star]

that a fact? so they went with an ambient skylight for the non RTX plebs?

I guess the industry is moving on, realtime GI all the things!

[cursive crypt]

Lumen!

[median wraith]

They use probes

no lightmaps

[stiff crystal]

must be aliens

[median wraith]

the whole engine shadows are realtime

only get occlusion from probes

also Dying Light 1 did same way

[cursive crypt]

These are big probes.

[deep copper]

enormous

[median wraith]

well aren't bit probes as UE4

[cursive crypt]

I think the name is not coincidence.

[median wraith]

are IBLs

as The Division etc

[median wraith]

Yet still the only decent game in 2 years

[cursive crypt]

throws tomatoes through tears

but skyrim

[median wraith]

I mean I don't care much about graphics

actually the game without RT looks kinda like the first one

that's from 5 years ago or more

[cursive crypt]

after talking for half an hour about graphics in some weird games

[median wraith]

still the people that was waiting for BF, COD, and Cyberpunk as promised lands

got what they got

[median wraith]

One thing is what I get paid for other what I like or appreciate

on my personal gaming exps*

[cursive crypt]

You love graphics, Hev.

Just admit, addiction.

[median wraith]

I love photography

but in gaming at some point rather than add, it rem

[cursive crypt]

Since I know you, you talk mainly about graphics. You like it.

mehehe

[deep copper]

graphics is love, graphics is life

[zinc matrix]

"nooooo but graphics don't matter"

proceeds to make some pixel art 2d game that looks very unique 100%

[cursive crypt]

I'm buying.

[zinc matrix]

I like seeing advances in graphics too

It makes games more beautiful

[stiff crystal]

yet most pretty games out there aren't by any means using bleeding edge rendering tech

[median wraith]

Actually there is a reason because the pixel art is more fun to play on longer dossis

[zinc matrix]

I guess it is? I'm just poking fun at the many devs that do that

[stiff crystal]

whatever works

[zinc matrix]

Yeah

[median wraith]

Also I had more interaction on non realistic than realistic content on social media I have to say 🤔

[zinc matrix]

Some things can be realistic, others don't have to be

Like a sky for example

You can have that be fairly realistic but have cartoony characters and get away with it to an extent

[median wraith]

I mean you have to like your job, that's why you do it, but don't means you have different personal tastes for something, and still can appreciate both

[stiff crystal]

https://youtu.be/8C32-MskAUk?t=1109

[median wraith]

Non complete visual entities makes the brain work harder to figure out whats going on, people playing games like Minecraft have to refill with imagination the rest of the scene indirectly so ends as more lucrative exp

[zinc matrix]

Oh true

[median wraith]

if you give visual world equal content the people will be bored once we reach that point

the only joy now is see how it improved over the last gen and learn in case you are dev

that aside the 2007 gen area aka COD4, Skyrim etc didn't looked that bad tbh

even if you didn't had GI in Skyrim or fancy things in COD4

Skyrim illumination and Dying Light 1/2 have technically the same light quality but the last uses IBLs

[stiff crystal]

people do all kinds of weird things with these old games

was looking for fallout 4 vr mods the other day and saw this clip for non-vr version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hiCD8kp65s

[median wraith]

The problem with that old engines is the stability, and you know the Skyrim nightmare physics

[stiff crystal]

that has WAY too much sharpen for my taste

[median wraith]

also Metro Exodus was really overrated on my op

[stiff crystal]

I liked Metro

[median wraith]

Yeah I liked the first ones but

[stiff crystal]

I've only played Exodus

[median wraith]

the last one the graphics despite of RT don't looks real good as you could has expected

[stiff crystal]

it's bit on the rails but actually played the whole game through - which is not something I do nowadays

[median wraith]

Here a good example of this modern problems is Hunt Showdown

my friend is annoyed due all the ghosting caused by the GI

and cannot be disabled

what tbh on a competitive game like this could has been better to have static IBLs ala Dying Light

@zinc matrix @stiff crystal Got a serious question here:
Say you are indie, and yeah pixel art and lowpoly art usually are the go resources because are easy to self craft or fast craft a lot of actors.
So if we put that aside, and accepting you will don't get a top notch modern gen exp, whats the acceptance graphics quality you would accept as valid ?
Because usually the people will see pixel and say okay this is indie, but they see some mid point graphics between old and modern gen and say okay this looks bad ?

[zinc matrix]

IMO the best graphics are the ones where you can tell the devs had a style in mind and executed it well

If you have a weird mix of early 2010s era assets and other stuff it just doesn't look right if that makes any sense

sort of uncanny valley

[thick belfry]

Design > Technical expertise

[stiff crystal]

I'd be fine with art of Ori

[thick belfry]

I mean even cruelty squad has people commending its graphics

https://youtu.be/U4qIqsXjz0A

[mossy nexus]

This looks interesting: https://80.lv/articles/a-free-blender-add-on-for-markerless-mocap/

[median wraith]

that have more promo than the proper indie games you can say XD

[median wraith]

wait whats that game in the video that the floor is a pizza ?

[thick belfry]

Timestamp?

But yeah looking unique will get you attention

Make a good game too, and you'll be succesful

[median wraith]

one sec

the video is really interesting as a whole

@thick belfry https://youtu.be/U4qIqsXjz0A?t=361

that time stamp

[thick belfry]

His whole channel is worth checking out

Jazzpunk

Another great example that you dony need high def graphics

Or even good 3d models

Play to your strengths

Make it look coherent

Composition, colour theory, and breaking those rules sometimes (or in case of cruelty squad always)

Are way more important than polygon count

Ofcourse that isn't much easier to learn haha

I mean their trees literally are planes lmao

Flying above the ground

But it has personality

These games really have made me thibk again about grpahical fidelity in gaming, and how its considered important, well these games prove you dont need it to be fun. Making a coherent design is absolutely difficult, but you dont need to spend another few months making that design look flawless, and it might even be bad use of your resources if the graphical fidelity doesn't enhance the gameplay

Those games probably weren't as viable a few years ago when graphics were considered the most important part of games and having bad graphics was pretty much the end of your mainstream potential

[median wraith]

Then I should make a game about see the sun because always I do a game feel like isn't what I wanted or fun enough or my puzzles design is mediocre

[thick belfry]

See the sun?

[median wraith]

yeah like the planets sims but without any sim

isn't there a game about a plant ?

and you see the plant growth ?

[thick belfry]

Sounds riveting

Haha

[thick belfry]

Atleast you're practising and making stuff thats more than most people wanting to make games do

You just need to have success once to be succesful

[median wraith]

that's a nice sentence

[deep copper]

@brisk ether looked into odysee it seems to be running on blockchain? by LBRY or something

[verbal junco]

which coin is it affiliated with?

[deep copper]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LBRY

LBRY coin

or something

i guess

they are the ones who made odysee it seems

and they give it out to creators and the one watching vids, i am not sure how it works

there is not enough info on anything much about it

odysee doesn't have its own wiki either, only LBRY pops up which runs it

[verbal junco]

seems like it's being market maker controlled and has a futures market...

[deep copper]

it is trying to leach off of yt it seems and promoting negligibly moderation

[verbal junco]

someone is definitely looking to make money on this coin

[deep copper]

switching from yt to this has been made a lot easier

but, it doesn't seems to have enough audience yet

i saw only one channel with 39k followers and max 4k views on one vid

[verbal junco]

dipped down to 0.02 from 0.35... that's some magnitude

[deep copper]

the others are in 100s or 10s

it also seems to need users to link crypto wallets btw

and it needs less than a cent as deposit for videos you upload to be searchable or something

[verbal junco]

sounds like there's enough reasons to moderately invest in this

[deep copper]

it runs on blockchain file thingy, so you can't take anything off of it ever, the only thing that happens is "delisting" so it becomes unsearchable, but still sharable

[deep copper]

it can grow but low moderation has allowed weird content to be there, and tbh it doesn't seems that appealing with such dead audience

[verbal junco]

sure

if It was easily accessible I'd probably put 10-50 bucks in

they'll likely want to come back to the previous levels given how controlled it is

[deep copper]

it seems to have a plan though, if youtube keeps slipping odysee can grow a ton

[foggy path]

Blockchain file thingy? Is it actually embedding the videos into the blockchain, and is it a public blockchain or a private chain? And at the point where something is no longer listed, then it effectively still means you cannot access it at all, because you need an application to look at the data on the blockchain and chances are they don't really exist :P

[median wraith]

General question but you guys when do games:
a) Make a game you would like to play
b) Make a game that isn't the kind of game you are into but seems a decent deal todo it time/cost/quality okis to play
c) You don't like games at all so you make something alike the b but without the interest to play it ?

@thick belfry

[foggy path]

a) for me because if I'm not interested in playing it I can't be bothered to make it lol

[deep copper]

ah, it gets unlisted from odysee, it still exists on the blockchain

[foggy path]

Yeah but even if it exists on the chain you need something to look at it, and unless there's a secondary website that can just look at the content on chain you can't really do that

...and then the secondary website goes down

and now you need a tertiary website...

:D

[deep copper]

i am not sure i understand blockchain enough to know what public or private means for it, but i think i read videos and channels are in uploaded to blockchain, and get their own ledger or something for being searchable (with a cent of payment)

[foggy path]

Yeah I mean by public it's something like bitcoin where anyone can participate in mining

[deep copper]

odysee is the website for lookup i think, LBRY is the blockchain it goes in idk

[foggy path]

a private chain is something which is ran on a company's own network and it's not open for anyone to participate except people that are approved by the company

[deep copper]

for some reason it sounds private but i do think i saw a few places about LBRY mining

[foggy path]

But basically what I'm getting at is that it being saved into blockchain is kind of meaningless

it's like having a piece of paper but the text written on it requires a special device to look at

[deep copper]

i think some places mentioned that to make the point of "what you upload never gets removed because-"

[foggy path]

and only you have such a device, although anyone with sufficient technical knowhow could build one nobody else has done it because they have no reason to do so

[deep copper]

so overall it's just a normal video sharing site with a few quirks i guess?

[foggy path]

more or less

[deep copper]

i think the crypto thing might be for them to grow their own LBRY thing and make people latch onto blockchain hype

[foggy path]

most likely

that's usually what it's used for lol

[deep copper]

i don't understand why they need a small deposit at start but maybe it is for investment in a way, and gatekeeping spam because they plan to never remove it

they also don't have any moderation nearly, and this is why it is labelled far right in most articles

[foggy path]

Yeah, it looks in general a little bit iffy in terms of platform longevity

It looks like there are a couple of exchanges where you can trade the LBRY tokens, but they're kinda the types of exchanges which seem to exist for shitcoin pump and dumps

:P

[deep copper]

most youtube channels use young audience ( because they have free time + and simple content is enough ), odysee sounds a bit too complex for that audience

[foggy path]

Yeah, but I think that's perhaps a bit typical for new platforms anyway. Usually they first start with a more technically minded audience, or some other specific niche

[deep copper]

i have not managed to find much about that part of it yet, but LBRY doesn't seems to have given much info either

[foggy path]

at least the LBRY Credit value has been fairly constant ignoring a few huge upwards spikes so the expected income from it would remain consistent

[deep copper]

some articles say "35x more earning that yt" but looking at the view count i think the earning might be 35x for that amount of audience on yt, but audience of yt is huge that can cover that gap easily

[thick belfry]

At the moment I'm working in project of a game id never play myself (not without a good recommendation from someone) for my portfolio. I wanna prove (to myself and the college I'm applying for) that i csnt just make games I want but I can perform good design principles in general. A good designer imo doesn't make something for themselves but for others and since I want to be a professional thats what I do.

[deep copper]

it seems to also work on donation style thing, where the coins viewers get can be donated to creators idk

[thick belfry]

But if you're a hobbyist that doesn't matter just make fun stuff for you and your friends or whatever

I dont game very often myself but I do really like gaming

I just dont have the time/energy to invest long amount of time and I dont like short burst gaming

My favourite game is outer wilds and I wouldnt even call it a game as much as an interactivee experiencr

That's the type of stuff I wanna work on

What about you @median wraith

[torpid star]

that sounds like fun, gonna check that one out!

u would probably enjoy Death Stranding as well

[median wraith]

and never happen to you that with the time after test and test you get bored of your own game ?

[foggy path]

Not yet at least :P

[median wraith]

interesting

[foggy path]

I guess it could happen but that's not much different than getting bored of the project for any other reason lol

[median wraith]

I usually go for a or b but get bored or the game isn't good enough as I wanted

[foggy path]

It helps to have other people who are interested in the project I think

[median wraith]

I bet, well never experienced that

With tools I keep until I finish and release

but then nobody knows what I did

[thick belfry]

I think I would too but its a big time investment

[thick belfry]

Yeah, eventually if you wanna get serious you gotta treat it as a job

No matter if you wanna work now or not, you gotta do it

[median wraith]

well I tried once without sucess

or many times really

[thick belfry]

You also don't have to make your own games to be a game designer

You can see how to get into the industry

But thats ofcourse if you aspire to be a game designer vs wanting to making your own games

Maybe you design great things but you're not a good marketeer and that's why there isn't much interest

It's a whole different job really

[foggy path]

You can always learn marketing or get help for it I think

[zinc matrix]

the lightin gin dl1 was much worse than in dl2 tho

[thick belfry]

Do you have any released games @median wraith

[zinc matrix]

yes? i use it to find new animals, talk about animals etc

[thick belfry]

Yes

But more as a connecting platform

The real social media activity is mainly on instagram

In my experience

And twitter for discourse on current events

[median wraith]

hows that ?

[median wraith]

na only tools and a music player that have mini games but the minigames never went released

well I worked for companies but thats a different history

[zinc matrix]

no idea?

thats why i asked whether dl2 uses similar stuff to lumen

[median wraith]

Well to me looks kinda equal from the videos

only the RT ones looks better

in some cases*

[zinc matrix]

have u played dl1 throughoutly?

[thick belfry]

What's your goal at the moment?

[median wraith]

yeah I played DL1 complete included the DLC

also Dead Island too

[zinc matrix]

oO

UR AN ODD ONE THEN!!!

dl2 lighting is so much more modern!

(not trollign)

[median wraith]

https://youtu.be/822qff8kAzo?t=278

well I didn't played the new one but

to me in the non RT gameplays looks kinda equal to me

[zinc matrix]

hmmm

no. lighting looks worse in dl1

[median wraith]

On this one the new one looks worst

from the same video

idk to me looks like the old one was less saturated and the shadows where darker

[zinc matrix]

not what im talking about 😄

everything else i mean

[median wraith]

I'm in the feel the postprocessing was updated

I mean it's normal

also the whites where boosted

[zinc matrix]

im talking about much better GI etc in dl2

[median wraith]

I mean the first one don't have GI but probes for occlusion

[zinc matrix]

but lumen is probes too

[median wraith]

well no

these are manually placed on Dying Light

just as in The Division

[zinc matrix]

thats why it took em 6 fucking years to make dl2?

its so bad :/

[median wraith]

https://youtu.be/wPt_FhlBdio?t=436

[zinc matrix]

im so dissaspointed by dl2

he just explain how bad dl1 looks ya

xD

shitty lighting

[verbal junco]

so dying light is bad because graphics bad, okay

[zinc matrix]

ya. in total dl1 is better ^^

[verbal junco]

the first DL was devoid of interesting design

[zinc matrix]

much better than 2

[verbal junco]

completely unsurprising

[zinc matrix]

u said dl1 is boring.

so 2 better?

[verbal junco]

no I'm saying both are probably stuck at the same level of "zombie = fun"

[zinc matrix]

then say both dl's are bad... this is a dialogue... andu have to bea as clear as possible

[verbal junco]

I did

[tulip orbit]

I bought DL1 but havent played it yet

[zinc matrix]

u said dying light is bad. that is the dl1

not all dl parts

[verbal junco]

DL1 was bad enough that I would not pay money for DL2

let's put it like that

I don't know the state of DL2

other than people complain about lights

[zinc matrix]

id wait 2 years or so to buy it

[verbal junco]

which I think is the least of DL's problems

[zinc matrix]

no they dont omplain about light in 2

[verbal junco]

look up in this channel

[zinc matrix]

in what time period

[verbal junco]

the past day

[zinc matrix]

the talkj about moonlight too bright?

[verbal junco]

I don't know

I don't pay attention enough to know what exactly is wrong

just that something is wrong with the lighting

DL has already failed to capture me in its audience so there's no reason for me to spend any more time thinking about it

[zinc matrix]

they then must have talked about how flashlight dont cast shadows 😄

[verbal junco]

well I'm sure you can find out what if you scroll through the history of the channel

good luck

[zinc matrix]

ok ive searched for dying light 2, dl2, and dl 2, nothing what u meant

[verbal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-shrugs-idk-no-idea-no-clue-gif-4697138

[zinc matrix]

@median wraith i think u said that, what ce means, what didu say about bad lighting in dl2?

[verbal junco]

but you can parkour so that means the game is cool!!11

I still can't believe people are making zombie games in the year of our lord 2022

that cow has truly been milked dry

[deep copper]

as long as it works

[verbal junco]

that's a low bar to set for a game

"WELP it technically works lemme release this atrocity"

but I guess that's what the average person is thinking publishing their first project on steam

[deep copper]

looks at bugged games
but i meant more like, the game sells, so it works for the makers

they will keep milking the tropes

[verbal junco]

I think the point is that it doesn't work

although I'm no expert

[deep copper]

from the looks of it, it's quite popular in #lounge

[verbal junco]

only if it has terrible lighting

[deep copper]

i have not heard of dying light before anywhere though

[verbal junco]

zombies are one of those low hanging fruits for people that want to make a game but have no idea what kind of game they want to make

"I'm gonna make a zombie game hehe"

[deep copper]

zombies also have low beauty standard, from a modeling perspective, it just needs to be gross enough

[verbal junco]

it doesn't even need to be a real zombie model

you can just use a piece of cardboard with some art on that looks like a zombie

players won't be able to tell the difference

unless the lighting sucks

[deep copper]

ha

guess i should really pay attention to the talks to see how bad it really is lol

in light

[verbal junco]

maybe if you're an aspiring artist

[deep copper]

is that why its called dying "light"?

can't even search for lighting issues, its name's "light" brings up unrelated results

guess this can be a good masking trick

[verbal junco]

maybe it's the universe telling you to let go

[deep copper]

i guess i will wait till hevedy talks again about it

[median wraith]

then comes dead by daylight

or last light

or deadlight