lounge

[zinc matrix]

You're right to feel that way

mental disease hits everyone, even privileged people

[last matrix]

you ever work a job before?

[zinc matrix]

Yeah, but they've all been part time and have paid peanuts

I haven't really had a career yet

[last matrix]

well what did you learn from them?

[zinc matrix]

maybe he did not know how some people will never have 30,000$ in the next decade

[zinc matrix]

Learn what in particular?

[last matrix]

you wont have a career until you can look back 5+ years at a line of work you've stuck with, career isnt the problem

[last matrix]

i guess nothing

[zinc matrix]

do you know a multivitamin is dirt cheap and rice and beans can provide most of you dietary needs regarding, protein, carb and fiber?

[last matrix]

every good and shitty job ive had, ive learned something, at least one thing from

[zinc matrix]

I've mostly stuck with lifeguarding

I like lifeguarding

But it doesn't pay much

gosh

[last matrix]

alright, back up

before you go into pay

[zinc matrix]

they really injected the feel of financial freedom into you, hm?

wtf, you can live a simple life and be happy

[zinc matrix]

Who's they?

fuck your expensive car

[zinc matrix]

Youtubers in your case

money can not buy love from a pet

and sometimes, welfare

[zinc matrix]

I don't want an expensive car; I just want to live frugal and have passive income so I never have to work again

I don't need any of that expensive superficial crap

[last matrix]

yeah you can do that wnever

[zinc matrix]

how much % of people live a life like this?

[last matrix]

anyone can

[broken sigil]

But is that reality for 99% of the people?

[zinc matrix]

Wym? Others have

[last matrix]

yeah, just keep living with your parents

[zinc matrix]

No, but why not be part of the 1% if it means a better life?

[zinc matrix]

you probably do not even know how frugal life can be

[zinc matrix]

What point are you trying to make?

[broken sigil]

Do you think those 1% are happy?

[zinc matrix]

you barely can stand yourself trying to follow this!

[last matrix]

you have already achieved the want of living

for so long that you dont know you can live differently

[zinc matrix]

I'd imagine they're stressed and even miserable in the process of attaining FIRE, but they're probably glad they did it once they've finally reached it

[last matrix]

because you're afraid of something so silly as "but i have to work for it"

lifegaurd isnt even a job

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-fire-bender-avatar-flame-burn-gif-4493955

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/guinea-pig-cute-uncover-running-gif-17739394

the guinea pig race

for living an early retired life

[broken sigil]

If that was the case we wouldn't be hearing every few days about someone rich taking their own life
Money means nothing if you are not happy, you will always want more, you will always look up to someone who has more than you and imagine how "great" their life must be

[zinc matrix]

Then yeah, I guess I've been too sheltered, but that's kinda why I'm worried I won't be prepared

[zinc matrix]

Poor people commit suicide too

Seems I also have high anxiety

[last matrix]

well waiting longer wont help that - you will face stressful times, you'll get scammed and identity thefted, you'll get a shitstorm from life and you cant prepare for it

with a weak personal identiy, you'll get knocked over and buried

[regal pecan]

"If that was the case we wouldn't be hearing every few days about someone rich taking their own life"
Clearly I'm subscribed to the wrong (right?) news feeds

[last matrix]

thats all you lack and that's what you should work on

money cant create inner strength

[zinc matrix]

So are you suggesting I just do financial research?

[last matrix]

you have such an attachment to this

go ahead

[zinc matrix]

seriously? rich people are not billionaires on TV

[last matrix]

do it already

[zinc matrix]

Alright

[last matrix]

solve your finacial situation for the rest of your life

stop wasting time

get it over with

[zinc matrix]

When you say it like that, it sounds unrealistic

[last matrix]

you were saying it, not me

[zinc matrix]

Because none of us fully know what's gonna happen in the future

and both of you are wrong

[last matrix]

thats what you want though

[zinc matrix]

because we are typing

Fine

[last matrix]

you want to not have finacial problems

[pearl elk]

Death is inevitable

[last matrix]

to live comfrtable without a worry

if you think money solves it, then hop to it

[zinc matrix]

Alright

and be aware that the rat race is though

Just hope I can push through

[last matrix]

i dont really care

[zinc matrix]

1% of the population is an altar that few live in

and if you can not, there is plenty of stuff to do

Cuz I've taken courses before and taken notes on them and barely remember what I've learned

I felt forced to do it rather than actually wanting to

[zinc matrix]

you can not be a machine if you do not know how to deal with your problems, eat healthy, exercise etc.

life is way more than making money

[last matrix]

you're still wasting time, death is coming, better get on it

[pearl elk]

Tbh no matter how much impact you have or dont have on society youre still nothing compared to the greatness of this vast universe

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/countdown-start-your-engines-get-ready-go-drag-race-gif-13824072

[zinc matrix]

Any suggestions for resources?

[last matrix]

you're the finance guy, i should be asking you

[pearl elk]

So bleh, who cares bout what others are doing

[zinc matrix]

Conrad is a gladiator from roman times

why you are asking it?

i will start the race again

Fine

i will hop into blender

https://tenor.com/view/start-your-engines-david-boreanaz-nascar-auto-club-get-ready-to-race-gif-18821828

https://tenor.com/view/rally-race-road-rage-vroom-hide-gif-16904858

me and you

it already started

bye

[last matrix]

they left right?

[broken sigil]

But that's the point, money won't make you happy

[pearl elk]

Cant take it with you into the afterlife either

[last matrix]

shhh, they're gone

they had their mental breakdown and realized how ridiculous they reacted

[zinc matrix]

i am here

[regal pecan]

Psh! If billionaires were suiciding I'd have heard about that. Probably. Maybe. Maybe not. ...Have they been?

[zinc matrix]

i really need take a break from blender

[last matrix]

ok, one of them had their mental breakdown and realized how ridiculous they reacted

[zinc matrix]

i would ask you to a fight on coliseum but i am not much into violence

[last matrix]

yes, but in style

[last matrix]

im not either

[zinc matrix]

but you can start ranting if i came here to cry

[last matrix]

im about helping

[zinc matrix]

i it has been more than 4 years that i do not see a friend, my emotional is fucked

[regal pecan]

I'm into violence, but no physical contact. I like my personal space, as measured in square kilometers. Going to need a bigger colloseum.

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/lying-why-you-always-lying-fake-stop-stop-lying-gif-16185952

😛

[last matrix]

cmon Blue Man, im not a bad guy 🙂

just call it tough love

[zinc matrix]

oh so there is a cult of bad people on lounge

unreal

[last matrix]

cult is a strong word

[zinc matrix]

i am not chatting with toxic people

anymore

[pearl elk]

Its more like a coven

[regal pecan]

#lounge is just the recovery wing for #cpp... allegedly

[last matrix]

was i really toxic?

[zinc matrix]

do not play the innocent here, you are more mature and old than me

[zinc matrix]

you from time to time came with violent video-game videos

[last matrix]

how do you know im older than you?

i dont know you at all

[zinc matrix]

yeah, how old are you?

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/toxic-music-video-britney-spears-britney-britney-toxic-britney-spears-toxic-gif-22171945

[zinc matrix]

kidding i do not care

https://tenor.com/view/peace-out-smirk-confident-amelia-meath-sylvan-esso-gif-14418299

[pearl elk]

And?

[zinc matrix]

you belong to the cult

people who like violence are always the same

[tulip orbit]

im this old https://i.imgur.com/maTy2po.jpg

[last matrix]

its not like they were kicked or yelled at or disrespected

[last matrix]

i remember when FreeCell was not in that list as well

[pearl elk]

Yup okay

[regal pecan]

I don't remember Hearts being on that list

[zinc matrix]

i am really bad with irony, so you can troll me while i am on chat but i never read you being toxic

[last matrix]

oh so it was a joke?

[zinc matrix]

😄 of course

[last matrix]

lol ok

[pearl elk]

People should really talk to professionals

[zinc matrix]

we read so fake

[pearl elk]

Why they think randos online is healthy, I dunno

[zinc matrix]

yeah, but sometimes they are on the edge too

[last matrix]

i recognize i was rude or a bit mean to them, but i dont want it to be seen that i am some straight up asshole

[zinc matrix]

you can not be a happy bunny in this regard, we are not responsible for people wanting to kill themselves

still, without or with suicide, life is though even for some privileged people

like a said, mental disease hits all

and it is a pain in the neck

[last matrix]

id prefer not to label it, unless a professional can

[pearl elk]

I suppose people are lucky this server is legit not filled with those who want to watch the world burn

[zinc matrix]

i think suicide is a mental disease in any scenario

[last matrix]

not the whole world no

[zinc matrix]

anyway, @last matrix at some points your text felt like a inspirational discourse

[tulip orbit]

Sometimes it helps to just vent to somebody, have some one to talk to

[last matrix]

i was on that route until i saw it wasnt working

[regal pecan]

but is that not why you chose game dev over humanitarian aid?

[zinc matrix]

it is such a complicated topic

even if he gest inspired, soon the cycle of anxiety will return

and so on

[pearl elk]

I suppose so but if you need genuine help there are places to go. I doubt many of us can give qualified advice

[tulip orbit]

I helped as much as I could, but ran out of actual help, and was down to memes and bad jokes, so I went for a smoke

[zinc matrix]

imagine how much people would not kill to live a life of 25 years and 30,000 on their pockets

[tulip orbit]

its not really about qualified advice, just talking

[last matrix]

which reminds me, i need to buy a boat for the trailer i got for christmas... maybe after i get bored of my jetpack suit

[pearl elk]

Actually I feel like games help people too, but when it comes to personal struggles like finance...

[last matrix]

you did all you could

[regal pecan]

There's a route for how games could help people

[tulip orbit]

for my own issues, I talked to a few "professionals", got put on a bunch of pills. Didnt feel like any of it helped. What actually helped was me talking to my family about it

[regal pecan]

but it is so incredibly quaint.

[last matrix]

it doesn't, prolongs only

[zinc matrix]

nope, i will discord

[pearl elk]

Im just middle aged so Ive been through the existential dread

[zinc matrix]

sometimes pills are really necessary

[last matrix]

proper professional will sort it out enough and structure it well within a persons to head to instill inner confidence

[zinc matrix]

more as a tool for turning the situation

sometimes a life commitment

as some people will never learn how to deal

and that is fine

[last matrix]

and im sure enough shit shoveled into your face by life

[tulip orbit]

its not easy, thats for sure

[zinc matrix]

that is why we have medicine and tech

[pearl elk]

You realise money isnt what life is bout and you wasted some of your youth in pursuit of it instead of just living

[zinc matrix]

yeah but it grounds more than just living life without having money later on

not that is healthy search for financial freedom under 25 years old

but...

[last matrix]

20 years ago, retirement at 65 was the "new goal"

shit just changes

gotta keep up the pressure

[pearl elk]

I think the stigma of living with parents needs to go

[tulip orbit]

isnt the "new goal" now "retirement at 100"? 😄

[zinc matrix]

where you live?

[pearl elk]

Some cultures its expected for families to share a roof

[last matrix]

the new goal is to make money without doing anything to get it

[tulip orbit]

thats been my goal my whole life, it hasnt worked

[last matrix]

starts to put into question what the value of money is

[zinc matrix]

that is not the roman way

[pearl elk]

Whats the point of funnelling hundreds of thousands of dollars into someones pocket for 20yrs of rent

Better to keep it in the family as finances are better shared

[zinc matrix]

plus at north american standarts, houses are giant there

why not occupy it?

[last matrix]

i agree, though im sure there are other points that make this more complicated - not money related

[pearl elk]

Thats why I live in a country with amazing healthcare, its not about independence like the US its about sharing the load

[tulip orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/DeeOyem.gif?noredirect

[zinc matrix]

where do you live?

someone here lives on USA?

my mom and i was discussing yesterday about this type of culture

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/air-guitar-rock-kangaroo-gif-5189278

[zinc matrix]

at least in brazil, under rich people

people of my age

[last matrix]

ah the prison island that became it's own country

[zinc matrix]

they are not leaving their parents house too soon

some with girlfriends that are with a foot on marriage are living in their houses

[last matrix]

its not a norm for US

[zinc matrix]

but the vast majority are just fine, and 99% of them are working and earning a good salary

[last matrix]

most people still holding on to the perpetual model of the nuclear family

[zinc matrix]

interesting, i thought that usa was more liberal into this regard

[last matrix]

only certain states

though even then

[zinc matrix]

what i notice is old friends wanting to live together as a big family of 6-8-10 people

but these are a bit rare

[last matrix]

depends on class, but i getcha

[zinc matrix]

poor people here usually stick with their parents too but when they got the opportunity they head out

interesting, there is more than 30% of unemployed people under age 17-25

[regal pecan]

It's almost certainly in the US the leftovers from a ploy to drive lower class home ownership.

[zinc matrix]

but, poor people are flowed with traditional culture

very very conservative

[last matrix]

Well... weve gone into sociology... a topic i truly beleive is about cyclically theorizing without a point

[zinc matrix]

@zinc matrix @last matrix @tulip orbit @broken sigil @regal pecan I'm sorry for the drama; I don't really wanna kill myself; I'm just often anxious and depressed and feel like I can't make it through life

i am 25 just in case, so my observations are at people finishing or finished college

generation from 1996-1998

[last matrix]

All good. Hope the venting helped. I dont think anyone here hates you or anything. Sometimes you need to hear tough words to realize how silly things are. Take it one day at a time.

[zinc matrix]

alright

and most, with their opportunity/ or proper salary, could head out of their parents house easily

[last matrix]

Nah really. Reach out again if you need

[zinc matrix]

imma change my pfp back to Spider-man

[zinc matrix]

not consuming violent content helped me a bit of not feeling negative, but sensitivity may vary

[last matrix]

To answer your question earlier, my full time job is teacher

[zinc matrix]

I'm not into Spidey primarily for the fights (though they are cool), but because Peter Parker is the everyman struggling to balance his responsibilities with his desires; just like all of us

[pearl elk]

Im a government contractor, thats all I can say bout my job lol

[signal citrus]

How is immigration in Australia mons

Is getting residency easy?

[zinc matrix]

i heard they make good rally there

[pearl elk]

Depends which country youre coming from and why

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfmxO-HQ5rU

[signal citrus]

Hm

[pearl elk]

Can get 12 month visas pretty easy as a taste tester

[signal citrus]

Id like that

I plan on going to Indonesia a lot

[pearl elk]

But residency, they do go through alot of checks because you get full access to welfare and healthcare. Unless youre a refugee, sometimes those are temporary

Yeah we have an evisitor visa which lets you jump around for travel

[signal citrus]

Is refugee application straight forward there?

[zinc matrix]

holding a baby orangutan should be a bucket list item for you

[signal citrus]

Lol

[last matrix]

we were talking about comparing yourself earlier, so behold, compare yourself and realize how pathetic your lives are (timecoded so you can watch at the important part) https://youtu.be/hb5QaCfm7bg?t=160

[pearl elk]

Honestly dont have a clue, department of home affairs do intakes from countries experiencing issues

[signal citrus]

Gotcha

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=invtIKKl2Hw

[zinc matrix]

feels like a MIDI playing on 270 bpm

nice!

insane actually

[broken sigil]

I'm 22 and I don't really have a reason to move out no matter how weird that may sound to some people
And it's not like I can't if I wanted to (financially or not) but neither I or them want me to move out

Hopefully by the end of this or next year I'm gonna be getting a house built for me and them so that's kinda like moving out but not really since I will be living on the 2nd floor lol

[signal citrus]

https://youtu.be/gbwyso08Vt4?t=85

[zinc matrix]

oh, i met some people living in houses they built, it was so lovely

it was a dream of mine

but actually mine is living on a sailboat probably

[broken sigil]

Yeah I'm really looking forward to that
I'm gonna be living on "my own" but still really close to them, best of both worlds for me 😅

[last matrix]

thats dope

[zinc matrix]

cool! one of the person i met lived in a hike of 40 minutes of the main village and had its name on a book called Lonely Planet, he earned his money hosting tourists in a island

and strangely, 3 out of 4 family, solo people i met that built their houses, were in a project of turning a old school, a old build into a hostel

tourists love this type of stuff

i do not know what are your plans

and please, take a look at this

let me find the english name

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil_cement

if you have dirt where you are build, you can save some money with that and it is suuuuper eco

if you can get your hands at one of these...

it is a blast

[signal citrus]

Is that the evisa?

[zinc matrix]

i do not think worth buying one but maybe someone around can have one to borrow

at least in brazil was expensive at the time

2015

2014

i mean, you can build yours walls with a specimen of barrier to hold the cement with soil

it would be more complicated and should be done right

but way cheaper and the final look would be way cooler

at least for me

but that is my art, be warned

[pearl elk]

Yeah thats the one I was thinking of, you will need to be vaxed

[signal citrus]

Am vaxxed

I’ll look at cost of stay

[broken sigil]

That's cool!

Not sure if you are familiar with them but what I'm looking into is like they build houses from modular parts
Like it's a modern looking house, they have house plans you can select and modify to fit what you want and aren't any worse from like regular houses built with bricks but it ends up being a bit cheaper since it comes in pre built pieces, so you mostly end up paying for assembly and transport

This is the type of stuff they build

[pearl elk]

It'll vary depending on state, Sydney and Melbourne can be expensive for inner city

[zinc matrix]

what they are made of?

looks nice, totally a futuristic feel from my experience

hahaha

[broken sigil]

I have to look that up, I remember reading about it but I can't remember the details
I'll ping you when I find it

[zinc matrix]

ah, so they are not made out of metal

that is cool, modular... impressive!

i saw once a 3d printed house

looks like yours!

oh future is so cool

[last matrix]

same https://i.etsystatic.com/22429084/r/il/65d426/2391377451/il_fullxfull.2391377451_r4m4.jpg

[pearl elk]

kit houses are fantastic for areas where you dont get much time in the year to build too

[last matrix]

im hoping in the near future flying houses get on the market

[zinc matrix]

you can live on a helicopter or a plane

[last matrix]

those have to land at some point

[pearl elk]

become President of the US then you can live on Air Force One

[broken sigil]

From their website it's a wooden and metal construction filled with insulation and plaster/cement panels 🤷‍♂️
😅

[last matrix]

so no waddle and daub?

[zinc matrix]

you can afford in air refill

can you?

join my race and do it before 30 years old

[broken sigil]

I had to look up what that means 😅

[last matrix]

lol, they're in tudor houses

[zinc matrix]

idk why i though they were build from a single material only

[last matrix]

yeah, i can afford it, but its not the same

its like faking it

[zinc matrix]

i feel you, i hate when air force appears with noise jets to refill

plus i do not like military people

they own guns

[last matrix]

im fine with all that

[zinc matrix]

weakens my chopper power

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/arnold-schwarzenegger-predator-get-to-the-chopper-get-to-the-choppa-gif-16195562

[zinc matrix]

imagine the first traveller of a sailboat that uses the sun to sail on space

O.O

i hope i can be the one

[last matrix]

i was thinking of a maglev house, not to go fast, but to elevate

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/up-flying-house-balloons-omw-gif-10217152

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/rc-helicopter-fly-dog-doggo-cute-gif-17740311

[zinc matrix]

can you buy huge magnets to float your stuff?

[last matrix]

i guess with enough birds..

[last matrix]

i dont know, im not a scientist

[regal pecan]

Live in a dirigible

[zinc matrix]

you just need the money, forget about science

[last matrix]

thats the back up

[zinc matrix]

i will hunt some fruit at the refrigerator and get back to software

https://tenor.com/view/butata-pig-kiss-love-heart-gif-16882747

[regal pecan]

Then what's the ISS? Plan C?

[last matrix]

if i can having a flying command center from stracraft, itll have to be an oversized dirigible like form the mummy

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/oddworld-soulstorm-oddworld-soulstorm-abesexoddus-abesoddysee-gif-21082111

[last matrix]

that's getting "retired" soon

[regal pecan]

News that gets sadder every time I hear it.

[last matrix]

well their putting up a new one

and their donating the ISS to india or something

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usJ0ASCXyys&list=PLgZeT-MJEnhadH6_oa_FigOi3AmVbXJ1v&index=3

actually was this one, as it does not have vocals

barely

[regal pecan]

Oh that's awesome.

[last matrix]

lol its a joke sorry to get your hopes up

[twin bison]

goddamn just copy and paste Lv80 jesus 😆

[regal pecan]

NIH becomes NPH
not invented here ->> not published here

[zinc matrix]

you do not need to point a gun to me Manny

do Dean need !8ball

!8ball ?

[turbid spindle]

@zinc matrix, :8ball: It is decidedly so.

[zinc matrix]

😐

[thick belfry]

Yeah give me an eightball pls

We just got out of lockdonmwn here

Hooray

[tulip orbit]

enjoy your freedom 🙂

just because the lockdown is over, the pandemic isnt

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-in-freedom-evil-gif-22498283

[thick belfry]

Imma steal all these memes

[zinc matrix]

is hostgator good to host a wiki? should I register the domain with the host or somewhere else?

[knotty skiff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613941578670669838/935823820550451250/video0-1.mp4

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/Crytek/status/1486309465485946883

Crytek (@Crytek)

It's time to join the journey and be the hero.

A Crytek Announcement. https://t.co/Ohbux0w0s5

Retweets

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8873

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Twitter · Jan 26, 2022, 12:06 PM

there we go their last try to save this

[foggy path]

GTA 4?

[fathom wadi]

You know its going to sell a million copies no matter what tho. So as long as they cut costs, pretend like they have something new in the marketing and make it run like arse on a 3090ti, it should be a winner 😄

[median wraith]

Also whats going on in Twitter ?
"I come to be a reference to others in the programming sector"
Sure you came from a school where you paid others that learned from other programmers that were self taught , sure you are a reference...

It's filled with liberators

[median wraith]

Well meanwhile that helps them to get off from the hole

But after all don't think this end better than Crysis 2

[fathom wadi]

who knows. I mean the latest Farming Simulator sold 3 million copies so people must be bored as shit for games

[median wraith]

or maybe this game gets isolated by the actual new world crisis before

[fathom wadi]

also whats going on in twitter is a self-absorbed pocket of the universe all collates into one spot to mutually masturbate each other and police speech based on whose virtue signalling is strongest that minute.

I knew some farmers. They were a strange lot. Im not saying they like to keep it in the family but.....

[median wraith]

Man people in the city never saw a chicken with their eyes, this must be sci fi content here non reachable just as fun as drive a tank

but tbh one of these farming machines cost more than a lamborghini so is as much fantasy world as Need for speed

[fathom wadi]

when I went for the psychological test at British Aerospace, one of the questions was "do you like farming?". I put no and failed the test on that question alone. Apparently its a question to find out if someone can handle monotonous and repetative work that starts at 4am.

Also did you know that the machinery in farming in the UK is mostly all subsidised by the government, which is why a simple tractor can cost £150k when it should cost 50k tops

[median wraith]

na I don't even mean that between them, what is the worst part

this reminds me of this sentence https://youtu.be/uvtWRqZTzOg?t=53

[foggy path]

What's going on in twitter is people I didn't really expect to like my game retweeted it and it got more traction than it has gotten in ages lol

[fathom wadi]

I haven't been on Twitter for a year or so now. I would say im happier for it but I do miss some of the conversations I had with movie stars or musicians or game devs I admired. But I don't miss the absolute human mess of psychologically damaged morons who congregate there.

[foggy path]

...now I might actually have to resume working on it more actively

I'm disappointed in twitter that only one user liked my tweet where I posted a goof from a movie where an actor's balls were showing

[fathom wadi]

I miss seeing some of the great game dev content for sure. Often it inspired me to get things done. Or try new things. Especially with Blender. But I get a feed from Facebook that shows me inspiration so its not a complete loss.

[median wraith]

At least Twitter is more linear

In Reddit you can discover a new wormhole each day and hate even more your life

[fathom wadi]

I only use reddit to complain about things. Then I ignore the replies.

[median wraith]

I don't enter facebook since a year

[fathom wadi]

I have to as its what my eldest daughter and mother uses so I use it to keep in contact with them. It's not really a site I read. I just skim it to see if theres any unreal info or whatever

[median wraith]

Now is trending the farms minning bitcoins using animals poop or sun panels

Like create a gpu to mine money and the creation of the panels is a green process

This world...

[merry ice]

looking on some cryengine games i think it's about hopeless.

[zinc matrix]

build a farm on any perma frost place and you cut down on refrigerating costs

https://www.theverge.com/2020/9/14/21436746/microsoft-project-natick-data-center-server-underwater-cooling-reliability

[signal citrus]

Awesome, yeah I don’t really need inner city. Fast internet would be nice though

[lone spruce]

@icy dragon

Finnaly founded this guy's tag

Nvm

Somehow can't message or friend him

[deep glen]

<_<

[zinc matrix]

lol

ok

😋

[median wraith]

Did someone here worked with spherical levels ?

[zinc matrix]

Astroneer devs. have a talk on Youtube about that

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g71TcfoMeaI

i think it is this one

and it is 5 year old…

[median wraith]

I was looking to do navmesh there but ob the navmesh won't work

oh man

[zinc matrix]

:\

Unreal could implement mesh to NavMesh function

[tulip orbit]

"use complex collision as navmesh"

[zinc matrix]

in Godot if you import a object with the prefix -nav it will be a NavMesh area matching the thing

or you can select in engine and transform a Mesh into

[zinc matrix]

no way

YES

[tulip orbit]

would be fantastic with nanite meshes

[zinc matrix]

is that a BP function or it is lying on the Mesh TAB?

[tulip orbit]

if I knew where it lied, I wouldnt be looking for it

[zinc matrix]

ah i thought it was implemented

[tulip orbit]

naw, just a suggestion

[zinc matrix]

UE5 could code a 3D NavMesh solution too

[median wraith]

I mean Epic maded a planetary system curvature for 4.26

still no solutions for actual curved worlds, gravity or nav

[foggy path]

CMC doesn't even work if the character has roll so I don't think Epic actually put any real effort into it

[zinc matrix]

is not Tim Sweeney a flat earther?

[bronze axle]

Ready for take off. https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1675180/view/3117055056380003048

Not seeing any issues on my end. I'm using Brave.

[median wraith]

to me works ?

whats the issue ?

images seems missing

[zinc matrix]

Steam is such a dictatorship

how much % they charge of your game sales?

☠️

30%?

ouch!

[bronze axle]

It's a bit high these days, but it's been industry standard for a long time.

And with Unreal being free until you earn $1 million, it's an easier pill to swallow.

[zinc matrix]

yeah, but afterwards they charge how much? 5%?

[bronze axle]

OK, I see the long tables issue on this page.

[bronze axle]

Yes.

[zinc matrix]

Steam is hosting a server to people download your stuff and they take more than a quarter of your effort

[bronze axle]

Steam does a lot more than that.

[zinc matrix]

like?

people could move out to more fair platforms easily…

[tulip orbit]

The 30% was a big driver for publishers to make their own platforms wasnt it?

[narrow patrol]

Not that I'm defending their 30% but the pitch steam would make is that you'll sell more copies there and make more money, even minus their take

[zinc matrix]

Game industry is making tons of money and sometimes people are underpaid in big studios

like Blizzard had sexual harassment

BLIZZARD

how much billion they worth it?

a tech industry?

[narrow patrol]

"Sometimes" lol

[median wraith]

🤔

[tulip orbit]

Steam was also great for advertising your game, if you managed to get frontpage, but got so flooded with so many devs and crap

[zinc matrix]

i am developing a freeware and i would love to make a living out of donations

but i can not publish my website at my game main menu

[median wraith]

At least in Steam they declare on the european VAT
Means this on Epic Games from my know you get an 21% extra charged

[zinc matrix]

because Steam policies

wth

[median wraith]

I were charged x2 times cuz Epic don't like to declare the european VAT on their invoices you know

[bronze axle]

• Operating and maintaining the world's largest PC marketplace
• Cloud save, remote play, leaderboards, achievements, and playtesting infrastructure
• Powerful marketing tools for reaching your audience
• And yes, reliable hosting infrastructure

[narrow patrol]

The friends / social aspect is huge too. Chat, matchmaking, clans, etc, all that is no joke

[bronze axle]

Yes, 30% of your sales is a lot, but try doing all of that yourself for less money and reaching even half the audience.

[narrow patrol]

Lots of people stick with steam as their main place to buy games because that's where their friends are

[median wraith]

the charge rates should be dynamic based on the spotlight the actual platform gives you and what features you use

[bronze axle]

Indeed! The social features are valuable, too.

[median wraith]

how much Epic charges on their games market ?

[zinc matrix]

i think Epic does a way more founding job at making you release your game and are not charging half of the partake they want

[median wraith]

I mean Epic have all these features too, correct ?

[bronze axle]

No. EGS is way behind on features and value proposition.

[pearl compass]

do you have experience with doing publishing a game on either? If not, your assumptions are just that.

[median wraith]

mmm

[zinc matrix]

nope but i know what business is like and 30% is so unrealistic for publishing your stuff

they are releasing a %### expensive handheld console right now

[bronze axle]

How many businesses do you run?

[pearl compass]

yeah ok, you know what business is like, here, yelling at the sky about it when a lot of us make money perfectly fine from it.

[zinc matrix]

i worked in a family soybean farm that make millions of dollars each year

[pearl compass]

https://tenor.com/view/ja-gif-23934765

I once bought a book. I am now English professor

[zinc matrix]

i am not saying that you can not make money, it is just sound unrealistic for indie devs. and they are swallowing it like they are triple A publishers

[narrow patrol]

But again, even if EGS had the same features tomorrow, that's not really the point. The features are there to bring in the customers, and the massive pool of customers is why Steam is the most valuable platform to host your game on

[zinc matrix]

i worked in the office taking care of all finances

i know what i am talking about

[median wraith]

I should drop this industry and move to the soy one from what I read

oh true

but that's for self purposes

stay away from my chickens you sir

I'm also Rooster or that's what the calendar says

[narrow patrol]

Hey everyone! Let's take this guy's chickens! He can never kill us all!

[bronze axle]

I can appreciate that. Given that kind of financial experience, I am sure you understand the value proposition of paying someone else to handle something for you so you can focus on what you're good at.

[carmine frigate]

winner winner fidget spinner

[zinc matrix]

no seriously, 30% is just unrealistic for a indie dev that only wants a place to upload files

[narrow patrol]

So pick a different solution?

[unreal cedar]

If that's all you want there are plenty of free places to put your stuff.

[zinc matrix]

i am not making multiplayer, i am not adding achievements

[bronze axle]

If you only care to upload a free game, I highly recommend itch.io. It's more in line with that market.

[unreal cedar]

Steam isn't catering to you and that's fine. They don't have to cater to literally everyone.

[zinc matrix]

yeah of course i will publish in other places

[median wraith]

I pay the government a 30% just by the sole purpose of own a company @zinc matrix

[narrow patrol]

Like, if you don't want what they're selling, and you don't like what they're charging, why are we even talking about this lol

[carmine frigate]

they provide payment provider and marketplace

[zinc matrix]

that is totally in another ballpark

[carmine frigate]

if u get ur own payment system u can sell anywhere

[zinc matrix]

you still own a company if you are making video games

[median wraith]

I mean the government does for me less than what the game engine and the store does

[unreal cedar]

I don't have an opinion on whether 30% is the right number for them to take, but to act as if the services Steam provides are of no value is asinine. Their CDN alone is worth a decent amount of $ and that's the most basic thing they provide.

[zinc matrix]

do you want private corporations ruling the world?

[bronze axle]

My government can't even give me a tax refund before the next tax return is due.

[median wraith]

wait isn't that happening already ?

[zinc matrix]

in a societal political level? i am ignorant to type more but i highly doubt something good would emerge

[tulip orbit]

you're not the boss of me!

[zinc matrix]

if i was a billion or multi million company than yes, 30% + negotiations should not hurt me much

but as a indie?

i think i will delete my account that i buy games there

wtf

[bronze axle]

Why do you think it's unreasonable?

[narrow patrol]

I mean, you deleting your account only helps them, they don't need to store your data anymore

[zinc matrix]

because i just want to publish a download, i am not creating multiplayer to use their VAC, i am not making player being repetitive because achievements and i am not want to sell paid DLC if my game goes well

[zinc matrix]

individual actions is all i can do

and i want to keep updating it like Dwarf Fortress brother do

and receive money from donations

[bronze axle]

I sympathize to a degree. I'm working on a small single player game. It will have achievements, cloud save, and controller support, but no plans for paid DLC or any other fancy stuff. But I'm happy to pay $100 + 30% of each sale to sell that game on the world's largest PC marketplace.

[narrow patrol]

Actually this is worth saying as general statement:

Boycotting a big company by refusing them your business is rarely an effective strategy, their user pools are so big that it's a drop in the ocean.

However, if you find a smaller competitor to the big company, and be intentional about giving them your business, you're making a much larger proportional difference

[bronze axle]

By all means, if you would rather publish a game on your own website or run a donation-supported business, go for it. It's easier than ever these days.

[median wraith]

Here takes 1 year to get these, also say you have an invoice that says 500€ if you don't get paid, they don't care it counts as you gained 500€

[zinc matrix]

such an easy way to think.. it is like not being vegan anymore because i do not make a difference or anything political related

[carmine frigate]

ahh back to yahoo search than i guess 🙂

[zinc matrix]

i just got surprised by the 30% that is all

and a but pissed that i can not link my website on my own game menu

[bronze axle]

It comes down to personal choice. If you think Steam isn't worth the money, then that's fine. I just wanted to hear a reasoned argument for it. 🙂

[zinc matrix]

i would expect way more greater % take of EPIC than a publisher

[narrow patrol]

The argument someone like Epic would make about avoiding steam is that many gamers have both Epic and Steam, but they'll buy games on Steam reflexively if they're available there. If you wanna make sure you're paying Epic's 5% cut and not steam's 30% cut, better to do at least a timed exclusive on EGS!
(Not that I necessarily think this argument is flawless, it's just what they'd bring up)

[median wraith]

Look you want to listen something stupid: Spain invest 10,000,000€ each year from our taxes just to refill the coasts sand from sand we purchase to Saudi Arabia

[bronze axle]

Yeah I understand that argument. Although re: the 5% for using Unreal, Epic actually waives that when you publish on EGS. It's one of the perks.

[last matrix]

EGS is 12% not 5 😛

[bronze axle]

Yeah. EGS is 12% vs. Steam's 30%.

[narrow patrol]

Right I got those mixed up

[bronze axle]

And you don't pay the 5% royalty for Unreal if you publish on EGS.

[last matrix]

glad to know that, i thought it would climb up to 17% after the first mil

[bronze axle]

Although Unreal is already effectively free for most developers.

[median wraith]

If you sell in europe technically you pay:
30% to steam
21% of vat taxes
21% of company taxes
5% epic

[last matrix]

but i think getting published on EGS is harder than Steam

[narrow patrol]

But yeah, personally if I was in it for the money, I'd still be working at fucking amazon. I'll put my game where I think the most people will see it.

[zinc matrix]

there is a limit price i can place into my game on Steam?

i will do a boycott inside the enemy house

[median wraith]

I don't think so

[verbal junco]

working as what at amazon? 😅

[median wraith]

there are games at 999€

[verbal junco]

have you seen the price on train simulator dlc?

[narrow patrol]

Software Engineer

[zinc matrix]

i will try to put it at 30,000$

[bronze axle]

What will that accomplish?

[zinc matrix]

3,000*

[median wraith]

it's illegal by their EULA to set a different price from other store you sell the same

[bronze axle]

You have to pay $100 to publish a game on Steam.

[zinc matrix]

just in case my game gets audience and they will ask wtf 3,000 on steam and freeware in other places

[last matrix]

you get that back after you make 1k though

[narrow patrol]

Or you can have them say "oh hey it's not on steam"

[zinc matrix]

i know but i think this is not a problem lol

[bronze axle]

OK.

[zinc matrix]

better make noise than be quiet

it is all i can do

[narrow patrol]

You can do whatever you want, actually

[median wraith]

You can always go to Itch and set the limit you want

And swim in money

[bronze axle]

Yeah. Itch.io lets you collect 100% of your sales.

[zinc matrix]

i do not like their method of asking donations before you even play the game

[bronze axle]

You can turn that off.

[zinc matrix]

it just do not make sense in my mind

[median wraith]

Yeah that can be turn off

[zinc matrix]

that is cool

[median wraith]

It's kind of rude from someone that get millions from soy sauce to don't donate 1$

[zinc matrix]

lovely i think i i found my place

[bronze axle]

Yeah I think you should give itch.io a serious look.

Seems to line up with your philosophy.

[zinc matrix]

i was working there as a trustable employee as it i was the second member of the family in getting interested there

but i was young without any background in anything

i did college in gastronomy and marketing

and did not finished both

[zinc matrix]

i am sold on their platform

[bronze axle]

I see. I didn't finish college, either.

[zinc matrix]

all the games i downloaded there for free asked for donations before

[bronze axle]

Great. Good luck in your endeavors.

[zinc matrix]

so i thought it was a mandatory pattern

[bronze axle]

Nope, they give you a lot of control over that stuff.

[zinc matrix]

but yeah, you can be a dirt locomotive under farming industry

[verbal junco]

is that a proverb 🤔

[zinc matrix]

but the vast majority of big owners into that field really like their stuff and they invest heavily on their business

still, taking 5% of the earns there is enough 😄

but farms there do not distribute free soybean livestock feed

my feel of Steam right now

[last matrix]

looks nothing like him

since when does Stalin smile

[zinc matrix]

lol

that eye actually makes me go brrrrr

[rapid magnet]

is #slate not loading for anyone else?

[timber viper]

Yeah it's broken on me too

[timber viper]

its fine now

[deep glen]

https://github.com/facemoji/mocap4face

[zinc matrix]

WOW

API problems on Discord?

i am moving to IRC

and ditching Steam

and using Arch

did someone here played Harvest Moon for NES?

do you know if livestock management is mandatory?

[cursive crypt]

Kinda read it as Tales of Arse

[fathom wadi]

This is the only Arise I have an interest in 😄 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KXby3V2anA

[zinc matrix]

hey, i started a vegan egg company and posted in Facebook but i am not getting enough attention in a billion user service

should i still defend monopoly practices?

they want some % of my work but i barely make any money to survive and start my campaign to save real world chickens

https://tenor.com/view/pig-gravity-falls-pigger-poke-cheeks-gif-10658597

[verbal junco]

probably better to ask people in ... business? marketing?

[shell garden]

yes, you should definitely pay hasbro a license fee to create a "vegan egg" version of the monopoly board game

[zinc matrix]

jailling people is a very bad way to teach any lesson to anyone

[zinc matrix]

ok but they are asking 25%

i will change to something like “bread linker” so i can skip their abuse

i know they offer me custom dices in any colour i like

but still

[quasi mantle]

The problem is going to be when the sentence isn't comparable to the crime commited, especially with short time and cheap bail fine

Though granted it's more likely happen to rich people and affiliates (and corrupt law enforcers) as opposed to low life criminals

[zinc matrix]

is not about letting someone sitting at a dark room expecting a better self after

have you took a look how much people go back to crime after prision?

plus, do you really think jailed people do not know what their are doing?

they are kids that did not comprehend moral and ethics and think it is fine to steal, kill someone?

[quasi mantle]

If you're talking about serial crime, yes, there's a chance for that to happen.

[zinc matrix]

afterwards, what is your situation in society after being stamped in their identity as criminals?

yeah sure…

[quasi mantle]

If your perspective was from movies, well...

[zinc matrix]

reintroducing jailed people into works while they are fined is more justifiable and dignity way of teaching someone a lesson

[quasi mantle]

There are actually some exceptions, especially in countries with high corruption in law enforcement

[zinc matrix]

have you took a look why people get jailed? people doing crimes do they stuff because they did not got a better opportunity

[quasi mantle]

Though I assume US/Canada don't really have that kind of corruption

[zinc matrix]

or do you think people inspire themselves in GTA and are mental retarded?

and it is super easy chatting about doing the right thing typing in english on a unreal engine server

go out born in poverty your whole life while at 5km distance there is people hanging out with wine on a nice house

[quasi mantle]

Just curious, where do you live?

[zinc matrix]

and then you take a perspective look at the shit education some country have and the opportunity criminal people have

what do you want? finish high school work for a exploitative company your whole life or be responsible for some drug deal and be rich fast?

because that is what happens

you are chatting about doing the right thing on discord?

do you know what a conflicted mineral is?

there is slave work on your computer mineral

go out work on a mine too feel if it is nice have “right” jobs

i am typing that is easier

[quasi mantle]

I mean, if you live in the US/Canada (or first world countries for that matter), I assume law enforcement corruption is low, compared to third world countries where briberies and corruption happen almost all the time, letting criminals like scammers run amok

[zinc matrix]

yeah go or eat lean meat with your english speaking parents

see if you feel better

[regal pecan]

Kill thieves, and four random people. Eventually there won't be enough people to steal from. Crime solved!

[zinc matrix]

😐

sociable justifiable

please appoint where i typed that

i typed JAILLING someone

[quasi mantle]

I personally think that the punishments are less effective when you can pay your way out

[zinc matrix]

i have 2 friend working on the field, criminal psychology, and there is decades of research concluding that jailling people is not enough

they just go back into doing crimes

sometimes not because they want

but because you will have a stigma of being a criminal in the past and get rejected a various normal jobs

now making these people work out have psychological treatment seemed to be way more effective

[quasi mantle]

This is not entirely wrong, but not the full picture either.

[zinc matrix]

as some young people jailed, after finishing their jail time, learn a lot more on how to be a criminal than before

plus people committing crime knows what they are doing

do you really think criminals are mentally incapable?

[quasi mantle]

Here's the issue with your argument, it's not that clear cut of a problem, especially putting organised crime into equation

[zinc matrix]

go out of your bubble and study a bit of moral philosophy and a bit of history to understand how fucked some countries/cultures are

[quasi mantle]

If this entire argument about crime punishment is limited to same level as local grocery store robbers, then it's not much of a way to bust out of jail.

[zinc matrix]

people commit crime and pray for the christian god at the end of the day

you really not understanding the picture

[quasi mantle]

But organised crime like expensive store heist or tech support scam happens, and they have easier way to bail out of jail, if not redo the crime post prison

[zinc matrix]

yeah sure

i am sorry

[quasi mantle]

Though I assume organised crime is not what's being discussed here.

Sorry for talking at all.

[zinc matrix]

they are criminals and if they get caught they go through the same process of jail as someone robbing a store or selling drugs at the street

[regal pecan]

or do crimes, but only outside the relevant jurisdiction (e.g. mock Thai royalty at your peril)

[zinc matrix]

now, liberating drug usage is a way more sustainable option

[quasi mantle]

Small scale crime have harder time shortening their jail sentences though

[zinc matrix]

and even organized criminal people should take a good treatment

rather throwing some people under steel bars

with another bunch of criminals

and probably abusive police taking care

[zinc matrix]

yeah! like charging 30% of your product for uploading it on the internet!

[quasi mantle]

Organised crime can have connections to bail someone out of jail sooner or bribe the police on the spot

[zinc matrix]

organized crime sometimes carry better weapons than the army in some countries

and run business from inside the jail

take a short read at brazil organization called PPC

or PCC

[quasi mantle]

Or India with tech support scammers run amok with briberies to the law enforcement and general cross country law loophole

But in United States of America, which is likely the scope of the convo, then yes, not even Supreme Court can be bribed to reduce the sentence by multi millionaires, let alone low life criminals to local jurisdications.

[regal pecan]

presidential pardons are an option, however

it's easier to befriend a DA and avoid prosecution ... just don't be stupid and let the entire world know what you did

[quasi mantle]

I don't need to know your exact location, just as vague as "I'm from USA" is enough to give context.

[dense storm]

https://rsgb.services/public/exams/mock-exams/new_intermediate_mock_paper.pdf i got 32 out of 46 on this mock exam fml, need to learn more lol

Amateur radio licence

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio

[quasi mantle]

I have better, chaotic evil, way to siphon a scammers location anyway.

[dense storm]

i have the basic licence (foundation in the UK)

[regal pecan]

for a country that does an enormous amount of jailing that is as ironic as it is correct (well, as correct as a blanket generalization can be)

But at least your odds of being assaulted by emus and cassowaries is exceedingly low.

[quasi mantle]

Maybe Florida is the exception. I heard more wild stories coming from there.

[regal pecan]

between the alligators and the humans, the safest spot in Florida is with the sharks

Floridaman is probably more like moose in Canada.

Or geese.

Some day, someone is going to look back and laugh at us for thinking dinos weren't covered in feathers.

[zinc matrix]

i have a icom t2h, can i get arrested?

[dense storm]

depends on your countries law and if you have a licence (you can listen just can not transmit)

[zinc matrix]

i do not own one

but i never pricked anyone too

i am 1 watt above the law

i think i will turn it on and ask some policemen for a date

kidding, i understand how serious this stuff can be

but it is midnight

i do not think they are fighting criminals around

https://tenor.com/view/ghetto-rj-poor-brazil-flavella-gif-10136517

this is a guetto in brazil

how police deal with drug dealers here

*detail, they fight back

looks like video-game

now do you really think people jailed are going to reflect?

they even can take choppers down

[zinc matrix]

https://youtu.be/-TrYseef8NE?t=461

now take a look at this performace

video starts at 7:41

i suddenly got addicted at time trials because i played 5 hours of assetto corsa

oh he crashes at the end

😐

i hope the future of motorsports lies in video-game

[zinc matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/quarantine-crazy-mirror-lonely-stay-at-home-stay-home-gif-16941242

[zinc matrix]

the last 4

yes

[zinc matrix]

we could have a #maternity channel

so i could ram and cry there

and be cared for the moms here

or hot ppl

[knotty skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-talking-talking-to-self-alone-lonely-gif-5869985

[zinc matrix]

NOOOOOO

you ruined my streak of monologue

i was about to post this music here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCslQtFHHCU&ab_channel=MarbertRocel-Topic

idk why, it was the first music i head high of cannabis

on some random list of deep house

i hated vocal stuff

but that one got stuck, i found it last year

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Wall

i could use one next to my house

papa limestone, blender is pissing me off

[regal pecan]

Wonder if that wall looked perfectly smooth and flat when it was erected.

[zinc matrix]

looks perfect

ppl are occupied trying to archieve perfection

[regal pecan]

That was from 1850. Not too different from present day, except someone was cutting the shrubbery.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_remains_of_Robinson's_Arch_on_the_western_side_of_the_Temple_Mount.jpg#/media/File:The_remains_of_Robinson's_Arch_on_the_western_side_of_the_Temple_Mount.jpg

[zinc matrix]

i found a easter egg

[regal pecan]

I find the difference between worn 'classic' architecture and the original intent mildly interesting. Also a bit relevant for games set in historical eras.

[zinc matrix]

apparently a robot portrait from antiquity

[zinc matrix]

i never got much into old stuff

and architecture, although i love dorian pillars

actually ionic

corinthian are too high poly

[regal pecan]

haha. The Corinthians loved their zbrush.

[zinc matrix]

oh yeah, 5:30am and the shades of light are yellow because of the clouds

apparently more visible because my window has a slight tone of blue

now

about architecture

this guy here

i almost fainted visiting that on summertime

this city can reach 40 C degrees easily

he is praised so much

i get so annoyed

not even a single bush

but he do cool stuff

i think that is why i never got truly interested

sometimes it feels that is just a showoff of concrete, without any true thought on the environment or daily use

[regal pecan]

Ordinarily I'm for the preservation of landmarks, but I think I'd be tempted to bulldoze that one.

[zinc matrix]

i think we should aggregate new stuff, not destroy

[regal pecan]

Going to need a bigger museum then.

[quasi mantle]

What is this supposed to mean?

[zinc matrix]

it is called Eye museum

it has a giant subterranean chambers

a lot of art stuff being presented

the eye per se inside is very ugh

nothing much more than glass

[last matrix]

its too edgy

[zinc matrix]

and i think it is very rare to new expositions occupy there

[regal pecan]

Oh yes I am definitely bulldozing it.

[zinc matrix]

but i only extensively visited in my early teen days then i never returned

[quasi mantle]

Granted, it's quite an architecture, but I have concern on the physics side of it.

[zinc matrix]

i like it

one of my best cycling routes

[regal pecan]

The main building behind it... Is that a high ceiling or a second story?

[zinc matrix]

high ceilling

the area is almost empty

people dance there

[carmine frigate]

thats an overpass

[zinc matrix]

it is impressive how much concrete empty squares that guy can build

now urban planning

elevated cycle lanes

you have to stop to check vehicles crossing by or entering

responsibility of the bicycle stops

they paint red the whole extension

😐

i call laundry money city planning

at least the buses are cool

[last matrix]

those are called sidewalks

[zinc matrix]

metro would be way faster and cheap long term

the tyres of all bus freight are managed by a private company

strangely, they are one of the richest families of the city

and citied by premature change of tyres by every driver i talk

but i do not push politics talk every time

what are the glories and defects of your city

?

oh by the way, we are rated one of if not the best bus service in the world

we were the pioneers of this type of thing

brazilian buses in Manhattan 1992

[carmine frigate]

amsterdam here so we got drugs and prostitution, i guess they count as both

[zinc matrix]

prostitutes usually do not stay much on the profession

right?

they usually makes lots of money fast and then find something else

at least here

drugs in brazil:

[cursive crypt]

Aren'

't you a reporter or journalist? Seeing walls of text and photos

[zinc matrix]

i met this hipppie once, he used to scratch at white walls and mix with cocaine to sell to foreigners at high season at rio de janeiro

[zinc matrix]

i just wanna chat

i am skating the edge of burnout

so i should take my time

i really do not want to stop

even if i need to mess with blender for just a hour or 3 per day

or other software

but i am into modelling

and discretely i am trying to hold the longest monologue in lounge

i finished the garden, now i should make the fruits

but i think i will cycle a bit this morning

next days the rain will start again and i really not into installing mudguards and cycling on wet city dirt

[tulip orbit]

I'd been modelling for my project for a few days, decided to take a break and work on dialogue system. after an hour or two of making my own I figured itd be easier to port a marketplace plugin to my 5.0 engine..... I may have been wrong 😦

[zinc matrix]

ahh 2014 smartphone cameras

low poly woodpecker

[lavish wing]

Hey? someone can help me with homework in English language, yeah im Russian

please

[zinc matrix]

I guess, what are your questions?

[fluid bloom]

https://www.coolstuff.fi/harrastukset/tekniikka/matkapuhelintarvikkeet/bluetooth-kasine-3-pid-17147

[zinc matrix]

Incredible...

[quasi mantle]

This is the greatest bluetooth gadget of All Time

I would actually want to grab one of those unironically
Just hope that it's easy to wash...

[zinc matrix]

Marketplace assets be like...

[zinc matrix]

Issue is, gloves in humid, warm weather...

maybe if your hands are completely devoid of sweat glands it is not an issue

you can reduce it by being dehydrated

meanwhile in the ALS server

[foggy path]

Probably 0.5 because 0,5 would break the CSV file

[quasi mantle]

0.5, but MS Excel can cosmetically change the decimal points if it detects decimal numbers.

[carmine frigate]

1/2

[foggy path]

well either probably works in a semicolon separated file then

[zinc matrix]

i read on reddit a guy translating a tutorial using PhysX into the new Chaos UE5 is using, if i am not mistaken. he went through a lot of problems (he was a novice in coding) because the difference. now i am curious, a lot of BP nodes will change or when they release the developing/definitive version of UE5 all the nodes will be properly substituted?

the tutorial in question was from TwoNeurons and he teaches how to do an AI vehicle that uses NavMesh on a RTS serie

[tulip orbit]

Im using 5.0, havent really gone that in depth into chaos physics, but the vehicles seem pretty close to before

[zinc matrix]

ah, so by changing the engine of physics that does not mean a whole new set of different nodes that executes the same functions than before

[tulip orbit]

Im sure some nodes have changed, but the general idea is same as before

[quasi mantle]

I'm rolling my own custom vehicle physics, though atm it's derived from hovertank physics

[zinc matrix]

is that a UE5 thing?

i remember hitting a wall by not being able to make a hover vehicle behave in turn like a wheeled one

some people suggested not using wheels at the normal vehicle logic

[tulip orbit]

I did a hovertank once, it was very bouncy

[zinc matrix]

I'm watching a youtube channel of a brazilian that lives in USA. He's showing that in Florida one can buy a home for 30k, one of those "portable" homes. Low cost, one bedroom.

but i could not make those move kekeke

the hovercraft solution i found, as i could not understand how to set direction forces in BP, was to mess with 2 parameters that makes the pawn stop rotating/moving if a force is applied

but then it basically became a character walking with the fancy effect of the spring

at least turning left or right while it was moving altered the route rather than making it spin in its own axis and continue forward

this is what i could not implement

no i lie

is this one

anyway, i decided to include wheels as it will add another ballpark of discussions about tyres

and a hover vehicle based on invisible wheels would still take in consideration the wheel diameter and probably would feel fake in some scenario

[quasi mantle]

No, I'm making it in UE4 with plethora of BP hacks. I plan to have three wheeled vehicle and flying hovercraft that can behave like cars on land.

I do plan to eventually port most of the tick stuff to C++.

[zinc matrix]

you typed hovertank physics i thought it was a node i missed

like someone mentioning NavMesh as complex collision

maybe in C++

but then totally out of my ballpark

i prefer to adapt

actually is the only way for me 😄

still, the functions of torque, etc. already built in the vehicle actor is nice

[quasi mantle]

I felt like the built in vehicle physics are too close to simulation kind of physics. Felt worse than driving in GTA 4

[tulip orbit]

theres a lot of tweaking required to get vehicles to feel right

[quasi mantle]

Nah, felt not worth it, as it seem to be strictly tied to being four wheel. Which doesn't seem good for three wheel vehicles like tuk-tuk or some wagons, or two wheel vehicles like bicycles

[zinc matrix]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsxE2KdYcv6t-kLl58_4IQ40A59G4wzGD

ikd how it will build up with UE5

but you do not seem noob in coding

i think i will stick in UE4 for a lot of time

[quasi mantle]

I don't think this kind of three wheeled vehicle (which I'm plan to include a modified version of it) is doable with vanilla vehicle physics, without some weird hacks.

[pearl pewter]

Damn who approved this 😭 😂 https://www.redbubble.com/de/i/t-shirt/Unreal-Engine-Pride-Logo-von-JaroNT/81909858.WFLAH.XYZ

[foggy path]

You mean you thought Redbubble actually checks the designs aren't blatant copyright ripoffs?

Also it's almost as if this JaroNT has never actually seen a pride flag...

[pearl pewter]

This one is sick tho https://www.redbubble.com/de/i/t-shirt/Meistverkaufte-Unreal-Engine-Merchandise-von-RichardNewton/82937957.FB110.XYZ

[tulip orbit]

afaik, I think the chaos vehicles allow for different numbers of wheels, tho I havent tried it

[quasi mantle]

I won't approve this, but this is a bootlegged merch, so whatever.

[quasi mantle]

This is the old later versions of Unreal Engine 3 logo

[zinc matrix]

i was watching these footages of rally cars yesterday

[pearl pewter]

yeah i know, but i liked this logo most

[zinc matrix]

lol

[foggy path]

The biggest joke with those copyright ripoffs is when you then try being helpful and click report

[zinc matrix]

and these 2 were competing

[foggy path]

and it tells you that only the copyright holder can report it...

I ordered some displates a while back and that website is full of copyright infringement which is so fucking obvious anyone will spot it in 30 seconds of browsing the website

[zinc matrix]

i swear this is the last

[pearl pewter]

I'd pull up to work in one of these!

[quasi mantle]

This actually gave me some idea

Tuk-tuk racing minigame

[foggy path]

art of rally has threewheelers :D

[zinc matrix]

the devs of art of rally sometimes lives in a van o.o

[quasi mantle]

And it's a Unity game

[foggy path]

it is yeah

[foggy path]

just dune does, the rest of the team probably doesn't lol

[zinc matrix]

i thought it was 2 guys

[quasi mantle]

I don't know the differences with the PhysX implementations in either Unity or Unreal, but I think it's safe to say the game uses custom physics (as with Unity having to make everything practically from scratch)

[foggy path]

Yeah not sure, I know Dune did much of it himself but there's a couple guys helping with the online parts and ports for other platforms

[foggy path]

Yeah not sure, Unity uses physx integrated similar to UE does I think

[pearl pewter]

I wonder why the comon sence thing is "unity is easier than unreal" even tho unreal has the blueprint system?

[zinc matrix]

there is a heck of tutorials

and learning C# is not rocket science

[foggy path]

Unity has a lot more newbie friendly tutorials and docs yeah

[zinc matrix]

as unity abstracts stuff and mostly people follow tutorials to build complete games

[foggy path]

Although I think it might be changing a bit lately, I see more and more indies using UE

[quasi mantle]

Nowadays it's more of fearmongers than legitimate concerns as it was back then

[zinc matrix]

godot is takin over, they have visual, c# and GDScript

[quasi mantle]

For comparison, UDK wasn't as widely used as Unity even before UE4 went free.

[pearl pewter]

So ue was olny getting a thing around 2015?

For indies

[quasi mantle]

UE4 was subscription software from its initial release on 2014 until 2015

[foggy path]

Godot seems to be a decent contender for 2D games. I haven't looked at it myself but that's what I hear

[quasi mantle]

It was 19 USD per month to get hold of UE4, then Epic saw the opportunity and make it free.

But even then we still have a lot of fearmongers in favour of Unity spreading around

Not to mention UE5 with the fancy features like Nanite and Lumen seemingly gatekeeping on lowend hardware and mobile

[zinc matrix]

brazilian college degrees uses unity

game dev. in general

not specific courses

[pearl pewter]

even tho unreal is better.. xD

[quasi mantle]

Safe to say every third world countries does.

[pearl pewter]

but they dont know

[zinc matrix]

unity can do 2d...

[quasi mantle]

And again, the fearmongers favours Unity more.

[zinc matrix]

and godot is new at the theatre

[quasi mantle]

Even though optimisation in Unity is fucking painful

[zinc matrix]

it started on mac, so people from apple will tend to use it too

and is what, 10% of the computer market?

[quasi mantle]

Not that they don't know, it's just revising the curriculum would be a huge hassle for many parties.

[zinc matrix]

i am not so sure, i was looking to visit the global game jam happening this weekend here and Unreal was one of the sponsors for the event

and in that university, they teach unity if i am not mistaken

[quasi mantle]

It would be easier if the uni actually starts with Unreal Engine first and foremost.

[zinc matrix]

at least 5-6 years ago i am sure

[pearl pewter]

makes sence

[zinc matrix]

personally, they have 4 years of degree that teaches you every bit of game dev.

but you can not just go out for jobs as general dev.