cool. I turned mine off eventually.
#lounge
fathom wadi
obtuse glacier
this must be the horse from battlefield 1
cursive crypt
^
pearl elk
okay so a coyote opened a door and attacked me
pearl elk
smarter than zombies it seems
obtuse glacier
okay so a coyote opened a door and attacked me
sir where do you live?
pearl elk
I can totally see what people are saying about Ubisoft games though, Im enjoying FC6 but it feels more like an asset flip than ever. I just expect half this stuff to be from Assassins Creed, XDefiant, Watch Dogs, The Division and Ghost Recon
obtuse glacier
oh
pearl elk
I live in Straya, only animals which open doors here are dingos when they are hungry for baby
pearl elk
thing is the original Farcry was more like Island of Dr Moreau, seems to have lost that along the way
or maybe those coyotes are really shapeshifters ๐ฎ
cursive crypt
I can totally see what people are saying about Ubisoft games though, Im enjoying...
All Ubi games feel & look the same to me ๐
obtuse glacier
i mean nowadays they do
obtuse glacier
do you think I would stop to type about it?
probably
pearl elk
Well you can see the same mechanics used across many different games, so they feel less unique. Like the targeting, thats in virtually all of them now where you can use something to tag enemies from a distance
I do wonder how plug-n-play that is, if they have something like Game Features Plugins or not
cursive crypt
Made on conveyor.
pearl elk
you would think that reuse would give them more time to add unique stuff
celest musk
well, rider keeps pretty much track of everything in source code for code completion and such
does VS provide the same?
cursive crypt
VS ain't bad, also if you add R# (what makes Rider moving) or the VAX (tomatoes) it will be quite decent. Also spend a day configuring it.
Ofc, can't compare to vim.
I avoid ofc, lol
I use it for almost everything else, but them fat projects - nah
... Freaking Acrobat is 180 bucks ๐ค
Hmm... depends on your projects. For example, even in Vim I use code completion (clang -based) and its fine. However, it is Vim and the first few steps are steep, lol
I think Atom is trendy among the kids ๐ค
Maybe VCode? No clue.
Code completion helps, but... it ain't really so big deal. Like lol, how fast you code != how good you code.
Afaik, you are beginning in this territory, so at some point you spend more time thinking/researching than typing down nonsense. I mean, I wouldn't care less about how fast someone can code ๐
Yeah, ofc it helps, but don't attribute it so much.
pearl elk
more like I forgot what every engine function is called ๐
cursive crypt
MoveThisPointToThereAndReturnBack (...)
pearl elk
K2_WhatDoesItAllMeanBasil();
Im surprised no ones argued that intellisense is better than the BP context menu
because it understands what you just typed previously unlike BP
cursive crypt
That's why they were promoting ninjas.
carmine frigate
it understands nothing ๐
pearl elk
BP could be so much faster if that menu was actively useful rather than making you dig
quasi mantle
Last time I went to cinema was to watch that Konosuba movie. Sadly the local cinemas applied horrible censorship on the suggestive scenes.
pearl elk
I thought Dune was pretty amazing, had a few friends who hated it though
fluid bloom
it definitely was better than the -84 one ๐
pearl elk
I really liked the audio in the scene with the Sardaukar, was just expecting the Mortal Kombat theme to kick in hehe
pearl elk
I think you mean that original RTS game
cursive crypt
The last mean? Yep.
carmine frigate
original wasnt an RTS
pearl elk
Dune II
cursive crypt
Yeah, dune 2
The original.. not my thing much, not bad ofc, but back then I preferred - pew pew
carmine frigate
pearl elk
probably the best way to do a Dune game tbh, not sure a TPS or something like that would be any good
carmine frigate
white walkers
cursive crypt
They can do games only based on movies tho, not on the books anymore.
Hence, that new gam in dev now... from these buggy conan devs ๐
cursive crypt
Yeah, minecraft in the desert
pearl elk
find sandworm, ride for 10 days east
cursive crypt
A lot of drugs.
pearl elk
Aussie ratings board are rubbing their hands together already
cursive crypt
Ride the wave, sell merchandise
pearl elk
Drug use can be shown but "not gratuitously detailed" and should also "not be promoted or encouraged". For computer games, drug use related to "incentives and rewards" is not permitted.
which means Dune is banned lol
pearl elk
nothing alittle drugs cant solve ๐
cursive crypt
There will be some workaround, but parents my get stunned - look at that kid up ^, high af
pearl elk
bright blue contacts trend incoming
cursive crypt
Also their current game, conan, you start naked, with junk out.
pearl elk
junk out is fine as long as theres no viagara
cursive crypt
There is none, the physics engine can't handle it.
carmine frigate
yea, most of us are naked right now ๐
cursive crypt
left moss
https://tenor.com/view/ilussion-tree-camouflage-gif-8218245
how is this legal
the best way to escape the kgb
quasi mantle
the best way to escape the kgb
How about escaping the GRU?
carmine frigate
who needs a fork and a knife when u have a hammer and a sickle ๐
left moss
exactly
foggy path
left moss
carmine frigate
left moss
eating is a capitalist weakness
foggy path
the funny thing about these dancing russian gifs is that they're older than the cheeki breeki meme and any of that stuff 
left moss
never gonna give you up is older than rick roll
left moss
lol
left moss
who pinged me?
tulip orbit
democracy
obtuse glacier
tulip orbit
I might die tonight ๐ฆ
I used lemon pledge on the table right outside my room, and now the floor is slippery
drifting quest
who pinged me?
i did
marx said ping him
haha no it was kinda a mistake
im to tired to go on coding
that too
that neoliberals ping it all the time
at least today my goals met and now a beer tomorrow is free, which means continue to work
left moss
lol
drifting quest
lol
are you working on a political simulation xD?
reminds me on that talk sizek vs peterson
trail wedge
pearl elk
Hi this is the tax office, we regret to inform you that you have to pay us 25% of all your free beer
regal pecan
33% more beer, problem solved
burnt lake
https://tenor.com/view/beer-german-celebrate-party-gif-5579802
acholic 25 hour dedication grindset
oblique gorge
dudes just lipping that mug tho
fluid bloom
but just the right amount for monday noon
drifting quest
morning
drifting quest
but just the right amount for monday noon
its 9 am here
fluid bloom
and it's 10:40 here
cursive crypt
People won't be so excited if it was a plate of tea.
unborn lotus
I have 4 ssds too, started from 256 and kept increasing the sizes as I needed more and more and kept them all
foggy path
Apparently that crypto provider codes relates to cryptography support, I'm assuming hardware crypto or something
I think a lot of folks are assuming it has something to do with cryptocurrency lol
median wraith
Na isn't hadrware crypto
foggy path
Oh?
median wraith
I mean there isn't something in hardware crypto called NTFs
And this is new on the hardware survey
foggy path
Ohhh right because it's in the OS box
median wraith
wasn't before
foggy path
NTFS is the windows filesystem, so I guess it's OS-level cryptography API support
which may or may not make use of cryptography hardware
median wraith
mmm and why wasn't this listed before ? ๐ค
foggy path
Maybe it wasn't used or not supported widely enough for them to actually care
median wraith
Technically I think when you install Windows 10 or newer than Windows 7 is forced to support NFTS
and comes by default
foggy path
Oh, Windows has supported NTFS for a pretty long time
like.. since Windows NT 3 or 4, and Windows 2000, and XP
median wraith
foggy path
I think 2000 and XP still offered FAT32 as a filesystem option, but FAT32 hasn't been relevant in a long time
median wraith
I have 4 ssds too, started from 256 and kept increasing the sizes as I needed mo...
Yeah but I have no 4 SSDs xd
I have x2 SSDs, x1 HDD that have 2 partitions and a single M2 SSD
I think is counting the Windows one as 2 disk
one for the internal cache thing and the other as normal rest of the disk
foggy path
Guess it counts the partitions
median wraith
still makes no sense cuz the HDD is listed once
Giving a check to the steam sales
Age of Empires IV looks like released in 2010 for that graphics and price tag
Flat waters zeriously
yeah was a single concept all the time
lmao
So if you set the AI to super hard and build the camp near them you can win the game without play the game
๐ค
I think the fact they listed Crypto near NTFS was kinda confusing for my brain
foggy path
lol
median wraith
a friend sent me yesterday a streamer thats working partnered with Vodafone and didn't know how to solve a puzzle where you basically have to choose left or right once
and then I closed twitch for real
cursive crypt
a friend sent me yesterday a streamer thats working partnered with Vodafone and ...
Doesn't matter, if it sells the views. I mean, its all show, no?
foggy path
Elon Musk is a clown and all his fanboys are fools who refuse to see him for what he is
:P
fathom wadi
he's generating a shitload of revenue globally tho.
foggy path
Doesn't change anything about him being a fool lol
fathom wadi
Oh I dont like him personally. He's a spoilt brat with inheritance blindness but he's still used it to feed other families
foggy path
Hah
He tweeted that if the UN can prove his 6 billion will solve world hunger he'll sell his Tesla stock
But the explanation had to be in his twitter thread on the topic
so he literally is making fun of world hunger
The only reason he's feeding anyone is because nobody wants to work for free
fathom wadi
the UN reported in the late 90's that it would cost around 20billion dollars a year to end world hunger, give basic education and healthcare to everyone.
foggy path
:P
fathom wadi
According to other reports, the cost to end world hunger by 2030, which is the current goal for sustainability, is $330bn. So the cost has gone up with inflation. But it's still around the same as when they first did the study on how to end it. What is disgusting is we have more billionaires than ever, getting away with tax loopholes, fleecing more and more into inheritance scams, removing money from the pool to be stored in their investment plans and bank accounts. For what? You can't take it with you. I couldn't be a millionaire and live comfortably knowing people are starving, nevermind being a billionaire. And soon someone will be a trillionaire.
foggy path
Yeah
Musk was also trying to convince people to oppose the new millionaire taxes because "they will come for you next!"
but I already pay taxes ๐คฆ
fathom wadi
I remember that year I paid more tax than Donald Trump. And I earn fuck all.
foggy path
lol
timber viper
So rich does not pay tax in US?
fathom wadi
they pay some to keep the taxman away from the door but loopholes applied by accountants keep money offshore most of the time. Remember the Panama papers? Didn't think so, they buried them immediately. On the upside, globalist government decision has just agreed to a minimum tax of 15% on all corporations which is a smokescreen because they should be paying upward of 40% but you know... one rule for the rich, another for the poor.
unborn lotus
He tweeted that if the UN can prove his 6 billion will solve world hunger he'll ...
is his recent stock gain "real" money though? Like if he decided to sell all that stock, are there enough buyers? won't the price go way down? just asking
timber viper
Eh, well, I'd blame the laws mostly if I was a US citizen then, but I'm too far away and might not understand the situation correctly
Afaik many laws creates a backdoor for rich people, while poor people does not have same advantages as rich
Liberalismโข๏ธ
fathom wadi
its not liberalism. Its neo-capitalism
timber viper
Would you guys like to have more than 2 candidates for US elections?
I dont remember any poor person tried to be US president ๐
Tbh even other countries has rights to lobby at US which makes me question do peoples vote matter in US
fathom wadi
you can't be poor and run for President. it costs millions to even try and run. Even with donations it costs you a fortune.
carmine frigate
there might be world hunger ,but there isnt a food shortage ๐
world hunger has nothing to do with the super rich and is also a problem that cant ge fixed with money
we just want the option to pick the best out of 10 apples and trow the rest away
also to get those 10 aplles we trow away another 20 cuz they aint round or big enough
fathom wadi
it can be fixed with money though by creasting sustainable farming and food production methods. This is a fact.
carmine frigate
nah thats not a fact
fathom wadi
ok mate whatever
carmine frigate
you just create more food to trow away ๐
drifting quest
yo sup
fluid bloom
carmine frigate
when pineaplles get planted, harvested canned and shipped 3000km
just so i can toss all 10 pallets right into the dumpster cuz the lables are not put on straight
aint no amount of sustainable farms gunna fix that :p
left moss
lol
unborn lotus
that's a first world problem
carmine frigate
well its not the 1st world we import pineaples from
left moss
/.\
median wraith
so how you do in games like Hunt Showdown to get the actual weapon aim point ? since aren't on center of the camera
fluid bloom
trace from the muzzle?
median wraith
no, the muzze is never used to trace the actual impact point ๐ค
except in realistic games
fluid bloom
I'm looking at videos of the game and it just has a crosshair in the middle of the screen?
median wraith
noope
isn't the middle as every game its in the center between be bottom and middle
fluid bloom
like Halo?
median wraith
mmm not sure ?
cursive crypt
Cross hair?
burnt lake
median wraith
like Halo?
Well no idea about the last Halo but all the old ones have the center on the screen center
zinc matrix
anyone using dualsense ps5 controllers on pc?
zinc matrix
https://tenor.com/view/first-person-game-turn-gun-looking-around-gif-14212898
hey stop bullying controllers
cursive crypt
Well no idea about the last Halo but all the old ones have the center on the scr...
Maybe surf a bit? I'm still not really sure what you ask about. In general, you can raycast camera -> hair -> muzzle to get the direction.
pearl elk
world to screen coords, some will do it the other way put the crosshair in the middle and use screen 2 world coords
unborn lotus
hey stop bullying controllers
controllers and csgo?!
zinc matrix
controllers and csgo?!
ryobg showed how u turn with controllers
straight lines. no imperfection as with mouse
unborn lotus
that's no controller, that's +right in console
cursive crypt
Looks practical. Can use it for campfire too.
novel storm
What are your guys' solutions for back pain?
I'm looking at a desk treadmill, but it's $2 200 USD
foggy path
Talk to a doctor about it
They can find out more about what's causing it and offer the best advice on what to do
three ropes on the legs side ๐ค
tulip orbit
wont be worried about back pain anymore, thats for sure
novel storm
something something, height joke
ivory lodge
Gah. I can't focus today.
tulip orbit
novel storm
Gah. I can't focus today.
Anything particular causing it?
ivory lodge
I work a real job but I want to be home working on my own stuff.
novel storm
Ohh
ivory lodge
I have a cool GAS/ALS4/Interaction System/BFX project that is finally coming together after the third rewrite.
novel storm
Oh that's cool
Is it a game, or a system that integrates all of those tools together?
tulip orbit
I'm just rebuilding my main train route in satisfactory cause I unlocked some new stuff
ivory lodge
It's the base for my game. I also created a prolog style logic system for automating the story stuff.
novel storm
Oh, that's really cool. I'm working on low-level stuff for my game atm, and tbh it kinda sucks
I just want to get to the actual implementation
ivory lodge
I have the parts for mine but now i need to add them to my GAS based system.
tulip orbit
wish I had a game idea. I miss gamedeving
ivory lodge
I have dozens. Want one?
novel storm
Haha this ^
ivory lodge
Then i don't have to make it.
novel storm
Either brain is empty or full of too many ideas to chase
tulip orbit
heh, I'm too picky about what I do wanna make
novel storm
Oh, that's relatable. I've juggled ideas around for a long time
ivory lodge
@zinc matrix I feel this.
tulip orbit
I'd like to make the type of game I like to play, but I like playing games like AC:Odyssey and satisfactory, which is soooo farrr out of reach for my skills
I havent opened ue in over a year now
ivory lodge
AC?
tulip orbit
assassins creed
novel storm
The hardest part of development is learning how to start small
That's part of why I spent almost a year not doing gamedev
ivory lodge
That's why I'm starting with a single player immersive SIM!
tulip orbit
yeah, after a lot of failed attempts I eventually made a flappy bird clone that is basically "complete" but most games I never get close
ivory lodge
With roguelike element....
pearl elk
open worlds are hard
ivory lodge
Yes. That's what my logic plugin is for. Hopefully it will let me finish a short game.
tulip orbit
one idea that I do have i'm waiting on ue5 and a function ue physics engine (forget what its called)
CHAOS.. yeah
is that functional in 4.27?
novel storm
Yeah
In fact, it's buggier in UE5EA than in 4.27
You do have to build from the specific branch tho
tulip orbit
ah, yeah. I havent actually built the engine from scratch before. always used the launcher version
pearl elk
You know there is one thing I like about Satisfactory, its fun building things but then you realise you've kinda destroyed the beautiful alien landscape that was there before and the sadness sets in.
tulip orbit
I've upgraded my computer now, so it wont probably take weeks to build
novel storm
8GB -> 16GB made a huge difference in VS for me
tulip orbit
heh, I havent touched the actual ground in hours in satisfactory. just on my floaty base
I went from 16gb to 32, and a 12yrold cpu to a brand new
pearl elk
until they add physics to the game then your floaty base will be no more ๐
tulip orbit
actually, last time I touched the ground it was because I jumped past where I built my platform and I fell to my death ๐ฆ
if they add those physics, every single player will quit the game
pearl elk
lol yeah but you need to realistically pump water up hill
they should just add hover conveyors
tulip orbit
the water pump is a touch of realism without going crazy or not being fun. adding the physics would add realism at the sake of fun and just make it incredibly frustrating
pearl elk
I stopped playing cuz of the water pumps ๐
tulip orbit
I seem to remember seeing a great many discussions on the physics topic in the discord long ago
really? well with update 5 theres now an animation that shows how much it'll pump the water, makes it easier to see where you need to add pumps
pearl elk
I get why people do floaty builds, perhaps they should add a flat map for people who want to do factories only
I get bit frustrated with the lack of an RTS view too tbh
tulip orbit
What would be great is if there was a top down view, where you could lay out all the belts and factory and move around quickly. like a 2d view or something. ๐ฅธ
pearl elk
Ive tried building with minimal impact on the environment but its not easy, best way is to just build a platform in the heavens
I always play The Forest with regrowth on, its really cool when you havent played in abit come back and its all over grown
tulip orbit
Yeah. I build just high enough to be above the trees and such. And for water pumps, I build just high enough to clear the pumps, and then its just one pump per line
satisfactory forests grow back with every update too ๐
pearl elk
do you play solo or with other people?
tulip orbit
solo
pearl elk
must have taken awhile to get trains going, I found the game easier back when conveyers were cheaper to build
I skipped trucks entirely and just built huge conveyor networks, there wasnt any of the transport tubes either so you just run on the conveyors
tulip orbit
this playthru is the first time I've used trains. Got them around the 50hr mark
I skip the trucks too, skipped the transport tubes as well and have been building roads for my explorer
which is painted fire red now ๐
pearl elk
transport tubes can be handy but it requires its own power system otherwise every time it trips all the tubes go down
pearl elk
heh interesting, yeah I was having issues with spikes because of the water flow not being consistent
tulip orbit
I think the fluid flow rate is somewhat smoothed now, but it still takes time to fill up the pipes
pearl elk
I dont even think there was conveyor lifters in my first play through lol
tulip orbit
safe to say a lot has changed since you played then ๐
pearl elk
oh Ive played a fair bit since then, restarted a few times but I think maybe update 2 or 3 is the furthest I got. When they first added trains
tulip orbit
I think I played last just after U4 came out, but there was a lot of new stuff when I started again this time
pearl elk
what I do though is I play a game like Satisfactory and I think about improvements I would like, usually there are things core to the game which you couldnt change without breaking it fundamentally but its a perfect thought experiment to generate a new project idea. What similar games do I enjoy, what directions do they go which I would add, what are original features that could be added etc
tulip orbit
lizard doggo catapults.
pearl elk
well the space elevator is like a catapult
tulip orbit
hard to get up there tho
pearl elk
so maybe lizard doggos could be the ruling trade factions ๐
tulip orbit
augh ok, I need to get some fresh air and then finish rebuilding my train/ oscilator whatever factory
pearl elk
I'll give them a cut to send your planet resources via the elevator ๐
been playing too much Anno 2205
median wraith
so they removed the Ray Traced Reflections and there is basically nothing RT at all
cursive crypt
Controversial
median wraith
3070 RTX Ti cannot get 60 constant FPS on metro exodus RT enhaced
from what I tested this morning, and the characters looked kinda flat
you can spot a lot of lights without shadows and breaking the whole PBR
pearl elk
Im gonna forget what all these companies apps are called if they keep changing their names
timber viper
It starts to lag on 0.35
Even on their device ๐
Sudden framedrop is ultimately visible
zinc matrix
to all devs. pls dont forget supporting dualsense adaptive triggers and haptic rumble thank you. sincerely, your customer.
โฃ๏ธ
zinc matrix
isn't that PS5 only ?
dear person,
dualsense with all its features also works on pc. linux no idea
left moss
/.\
quasi mantle
He's probably referring to DS4Windows, which did have support for PS5 DualSense.
zinc matrix
He's probably referring to DS4Windows, which did have support for PS5 DualSense.
nah ds4 is bad.
dualSenseX is good
deep glen
having two pc's being bricked by ds4windows, I highly suggest to not use it.
shitty code? iunno
zinc matrix
iuno, uno?
median wraith
someone knows a good pack of dead foliage/trees ?
drifting quest
median wraith
that new stalker game really looks nice
yeah found it just now, 200โฌ
oh lord
but sure is better than the rest out there
but is rather burned than dead
oh didn't see that before, but yeah seems more mixed cartoony
yepe
Ty for the url and the info by the way
my fav tank
: 3
pearl elk
gah tanked my FPS
could be too many components especially with touch events on every brick and mortar lol
the good ole NYC fire escape lol
there should be a bin full of trash there to fall into
I dont fell like nanite is the issue here though, its pumping out the polys nicely. Lots of instancing going on too
oh wait a second...
yeah its rendering instanced but Im using StaticMeshComponents not InstancedStaticMeshComponents so I'll try that see if it makes a difference
timber viper
Tank saves the day again 
cursive crypt
Not asking, telling: find a blender / animation community
cursive crypt
Push for longer then, that about normal.
pearl elk
sometimes it just takes getting to know the right people
pearl elk
cursive crypt
lol
drifting quest
morgen
median wraith
https://puu.sh/Imp2j/35826f0e4b.jpg
how many poly is a brick ?
pearl elk
250k ๐
red pewter
going for that PS1 aesthetic?
foggy path
I wonder how old this plugin is :D it must be originally from like UE1 times?
foggy path
Yeah I mean Unreal and others like Deus Ex used mod music
ancient ingot
holy shit 27 years ago ๐ฎ
i was like 15 then ๐ omg im old ๐ข
๐คฃ
you wouldn't find much interesting ๐
hahaha nope, im a ripe old age of 42
cursive crypt
40s gang ๐ค
ancient ingot
โฅ๏ธ
lol Armin is playing a set in Moscow, opens the set with a video screen montage of Neil Armstrongs moon landing.. ๐คฆ
cursive crypt
yeah, sure
fathom wadi
at least it wasn't from lemon party ๐
fathom wadi
dont do that. hes younger than I am.
median wraith
someone here worked with VT ?
ancient ingot
@median wraith VT always crashes my project :/ think it doesnt like my rtx card, it also drops frames by 30 just for being enabled ๐ก
ancient ingot
dont do that. hes younger than I am.
old git ๐
fathom wadi
some say old. I say life survivor.
soft night
aged superhero
zinc matrix
why are you mocking successful people
burnt lake
cursive crypt
remote fog
How often do you guys having brain fog? Iโve been dealing with this for like whole my life, wanna know how common it is
Like having hard time focusing on things, fog is pretty much how it feels like
real palm
How often do you guys having brain fog? Iโve been dealing with this for like who...
I think you'll have a better time finding responses if you have a stronger distinction of what you mean by brain fog.
But yeah
I seem to be experiencing that, in general, at a lower frequency
in the past you could have called it constant, much less so now
some of that might be caused by things that are not immediately related to your current lifestyle
pearl elk
Your brain needs time to recharge too, cant just put more fuel in
real palm
like I made pretty significant lifestyle changes, didn't really see much progress on that front for a good while
remote fog
Yeah I must have explain it better, thought it wouldnโt need more explanation if someone having the same problem and aware of it
pearl elk
your brain is a muscle too, if youre not flexing it enough
remote fog
Iโve been eating fast food for couple of days and doing unhealthy stuff so this should flare it up I guess
Nothing that serious
remote fog
Not looking for doctor advice, just wanted to see how common it is in here ๐
pearl elk
thats a shame, I was going to prescribe drugs
thorny dock
can I take them instead?
real palm
maybe I'm just really unique, But I feel like I can break down that symptom into smaller things
brains are really weird though
celest musk
god damn unreal...
using 40GB memory to move some asset, but gonna leave it to unreal, at least it uses all cores to do it ๐
pearl elk
I already diagnosed you all as crazy long time ago ๐
thorny dock
every month I need to check if I remembered to get the previous months free content
I also need to check my name because I frequently forget
now who needed some medical advice?
pearl elk
Im not holding anyones beer, just putting it out there
thorny dock
well will you at least let jesus take the wheel?
pearl elk
I thought the Lord drove a Mercedes not a Tesla
thorny dock
it's actually one of those old saturns, when you open the door a voice says "THE DOOR IS AJAR, THE DOOR IS AJAR, THE DOOR IS AJAR, PRAISE ME"
hahaha okay I watched a lot of house back in the day, I obviously missed an episode
pearl elk
maybe I should start a brain fog removal service
celest musk
or toxoplasmosis
copper cliff
epic
pearl elk
hmm
one of my bricks seems to have more polys than an entire stack of megascans bricks lol
pearl elk
still looks repetitive either way though which is a worry, at some point the benefits of meshes is going to be outweighed by textures
celest musk
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/e590b832d01e40799e942a1aa2716e78 this could help
yes
it's 20 material functions ๐
to save time
and avoid brain fog
ever played a game which had repetive textures? ๐
and all that could've been avoided for just $30
๐
quasi mantle
and all that could've been avoided for just $30
Or free.
Just stole Unreal Sensei's Texture Bombing algo lol
Well, I think it's improvised from Blender community's algo.
celest musk
first time i learned about that was in blender, too
which unreal sensei are you talking about? the cell bombing?
quasi mantle
which unreal sensei are you talking about? the cell bombing?
Yes.
celest musk
or does he also have something for non-organic materials
yea it's pretty neat, just stumbled across his landscape material last week
but what technique does the guy use in the non-repetive material asset from marketplace? just blend over some voronoi/musgrave noise to light/darken the texture?
is that sarcasm? ๐
ok, bookmarked and forgotten
pearl elk
how does any of this relate to nanite ๐
quasi mantle
Isn't every Unreal YTers before official Unreal Online Learning?
pearl elk
has anyone actually done procedural mesh baked out to nanite in UE5 yet
be cool if I could just skip using a DDC tool especially since I gotta bake to nanite anyways
Unreal Geometry Construction Graph
mesh bombing
deep glen
i think phy did some tests for his voxel plugin
pearl elk
Yeah Im just thinking of how Houdini works it has nodes you can use to bake the result out, cant remember the exact terminology. I feel like nanite could use this sort of thing because not everyone is going to want to sculpt or use scans, there needs to be the option of baking displacement out to nanite meshes in engine without a DCC in the middle
just makes sense to use procedural 3D rather than putting 2D tools as the focus
far easier to get AI involved when the parameterisation already exists and it doesnt have to learn it all from scratch
celest musk
who did that?
i only watched the unreal senpai video about landscape, and had the impression that he is pretty familiar with the engine and the stuff he does
unless he just copied over from some other tutorial, which i also seen a lot quite a few times on youtube
deep glen
<_< ive spend most of my free time this last two weeks playing with ableton :p
thorny dock
nice, thats a pretty big vote of confidence in my book! ive really wanted to spend some time learning to make cool sound effects, will need to check it out
deep glen
i dont have much experience with it, but for sound effects there should be better tools prolly.
thorny dock
ahhh okay, are you making music with it then?
deep glen
yea
thorny dock
cries in no-talent
in another universe, I'm actually deadmau5
and everyone calls me "dead-mau-five"
deep glen
reminds me of back in ye olde day on msn, talking to someone and said I liked Raged against the machine.
- she started writing
I wrote: RATM
she posted: yea me too!
she then wrote: yea, I like that one too!
pearl elk
I like White Zombie
deep glen
my last attempt.
cursive crypt
red pewter
make it stoooop!
kind lily
quasi mantle
nice, thats a pretty big vote of confidence in my book! ive really wanted to spe...
Try creating sounds with FM synthesis.
Also gotta give props to those who selling their closed source software, and setting up honeypot GitHub repo
Set up a public github repo with the exact same name of your product, then either fill it with nothing, or just a single README.md file
fluid bloom
steep trellis
fluid bloom
lol wat
apparently HBO Max converts movies to 25 FPS
so if a movie is 24 FPS originally it gets sped up by around 4%
reminds me of the early 2000s internet and shitty divx rips
cursive crypt
so if a movie is 24 FPS originally it gets sped up by around 4%
Wdym? It plays faster? That kinda stupid. Changing the fps shouldn't change the play speed.
It is more like early 90s, when you had to tune up the CPU speed or you die in the video game.
foggy path
Changing the framerate should speed up a video
It's different from converting a video to a different framerate, which also probably has issues
left granite
https://giphy.com/gifs/vine-humans-OS0HFk7Fmkdqw
tbh so true
fluid bloom
It's different from converting a video to a different framerate, which also prob...
yea the conversion algorithm has to come up with new blended frames, also it has to resample the sounds I guess
movies should just be filmed at some framerate that's divisible by one (so the fps would be a natural number) and then everyone should just have variable refresh rate TVs
there, fixed for all eternity
unless someone decides to use fractional FPS
foggy path
I've converted recorded game footage from variable framerate to constant 30 which usually worked without any issues, but I could imagine that depending on the quality of the material etc. there could be degradation
fluid bloom
yea I guess it usually works fine
TVs apparently do some pretty hacky stuff to convert different FPS material to something the TV panel can display
like, if the panel is 50 Hz then you need to have 25 FPS material in order to display it "correctly"
so a tv might convert 24 fps footage to 25 by duplicating frames
and some TVs do that by analyzing which frames have the least amount of movement and then duplicate that to minimize any judder in the footage
cursive crypt
Changing the framerate *should* speed up a video
That what I meant. Changing a FPS of a video should convert it properly. Changing the FPS of games does not change it speed, e.g.
So resampling.
Deep learning.
Shallow results.
foggy path
Right
Tbh it's not the first time I hear about this happening :D
I forget where I heard about this before but it was definitely also something where a movie was sped up as a result of something like this...
mossy nexus
mossy nexus
ivory lodge
I think I solved my ALS4 issues. My equip montage looks great now. I just need to make a script to set them up without taking forever.
fluid bloom
median wraith
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/e590b832d01e40799e942a1aa...
there was other packs back in the days more complete
fluid bloom
what's going on with the page width here ๐
quasi mantle
papa shark du du dudu du
quasi mantle
time for pizza
Does spiderman delivers the pizza?
drifting quest
Does spiderman delivers the pizza?
prefer batman
btw is #level-design not about gamedesign i assume?
deep glen
"General level editing, level streaming and open world tools"
drifting quest
would be nice to talk about game-design as well?
somewhere around here, or is it too off topic?
deep glen
generally that only opens it up for newbies with their amazing ideas and then being offended for people telling them not to, or them not wanting to tell the ideas because omfg its so good people will steal my ancient scifi battleroyale mmorpg the size of nomansky
drifting quest
make me rich, tell me
well in general you could discuss existing games
and their mechanics
deep glen
make pressing a button as much fun as it can be.
market it like no tomorrow.
done.
drifting quest
hey it will work out if you market it enough
unborn lotus
would be nice to talk about game-design as well?
What, like a... #game-design channel? ๐ฑ
deep glen
I think we had one at some point iirc.
CC: @bronze axle
bronze axle
We did. It went through a lot of iteration (name changes, topic changes, etc.) before we finally archived it.
drifting quest
why did it fail?
bronze axle
Because the topic is misunderstood by too many people.
deep glen
oh yea, we have an archive-group XD totes forgot about it. else i would have checked it.
drifting quest
i see
bronze axle
Unfortunately, many people use "game design" as a synonym for "game development".
deep glen
we should call the channel Gamasutra XD
drifting quest
but game dev is a totally different term
bronze axle
It is.
drifting quest
weird
ivory lodge
I like gamedev. It has a lot to learn.
bronze axle
Too many people have been taught they're the same, so the channel frequently turned into another general help channel, much to the dismay of those of us who actually want to discuss game design more broadly.
Not sure yet, but we'll come up with a plan before UE5 leaves early access.
ivory lodge
Too many people have been taught they're the same, so the channel frequently tur...
I thought this was a BS channel.
bronze axle
I thought this was a BS channel.
I'm talking about the old game design channel.
ivory lodge
Oh. Yeah and if you answer any questions you get asked to join their project..
turbid spindleBOT
@ionic flame, :8ball: Cannot predict now.
deep glen
manny doesnt like us mods/admin
bronze axle
Manny's right. It's hard to figure out if I'm any good or not.
ivory lodge
@warweasle is a secret weasel.
bronze axle
Manny's probably nervous about his upgrade.
deep glen
!8ball does manny love me?
turbid spindleBOT
@deep glen, :8ball: Better not tell you now.
bronze axle
!8ball are you excited about your next upgrade?
turbid spindleBOT
@bronze axle, :8ball: Without a doubt.
bronze axle
Oh good.
deep glen
!8ball manny, do you like the regular members?
turbid spindleBOT
@deep glen, :8ball: My reply is no.
turbid spindleBOT
@deep glen, :8ball: Cannot predict now.
ivory lodge
!8ball Why does reviewing my game's architecture give me a headache?
turbid spindleBOT
@ivory lodge, :8ball: Don't count on it.
bronze axle
I'm looking into solutions, but right now there's not much we can do. Discord is likely to come up with a solution before us.
I know they're currently working on better tools for detecting and warning users of spam, so we'll see.
bronze axle
It's hard to do keyword detection because they change every day, and they use different characters to escape key word detection.
I like pickles.
They're versatile and quite healthy.
thorny dock
wait versatile?
ivory lodge
@bronze axle Your opinion is bad so you are bad! I'm starting a religion and sending you to relish hell! ๐
thorny dock
they really can only be used in a few situations
quasi mantle
!8ball Am I going to continue speedrunning in the future?
turbid spindleBOT
@quasi mantle, :8ball: Ask again later.
thorny dock
burgers, some club sandwitches, relish
turbid spindleBOT
@ionic flame, :8ball: You may rely on it.
quasi mantle
That's quite a time loss.
deep glen
manny should have said "you may relish on it"
bronze axle
<@84183781501571072> Your opinion is bad so you are bad! I'm starting a religion...
Sounds delicious. I like relish.
ivory lodge
@pfist Infidle!
bronze axle
I will happily lead my people to the Kingdom of Relish.
ivory lodge
Hell. That is the hell for my people.
thorny dock
i like to hot reload relish onto my hotdog after i take a fatty bite and it gushes out everywhere
ivory lodge
And is deeply offensive against my 2 minute old religion!
bronze axle
Good thing lunch is on the way. You guys are making me hungry.
quasi mantle
!8ball Is Hot Reload bad for people's health?
turbid spindleBOT
@quasi mantle, :8ball: Ask again later.
quasi mantle
Dang it
ivory lodge
I am hungry.
bronze axle
!8ball Is UE6 going to introduce the Make Game button?
turbid spindleBOT
@bronze axle, :8ball: Reply hazy, try again.
ivory lodge
But I'm always hungry.
thorny dock
what about UE2077?
quasi mantle
what about UE2077?
Featuring a crap ton of bugs!
thorny dock
i hope the bugs are as fun as they were in the actual game
deep glen
!8ball do you like your source code, manny?
turbid spindleBOT
@deep glen, :8ball: Yes.
bronze axle
!8ball Are you ready to evolve?
turbid spindleBOT
@bronze axle, :8ball: My sources say no.
deep glen
manny likes being a teen
bronze axle
Good sources. Manny v2 isn't done yet.
quasi mantle
manny likes being a teen
Smells like teen spirit.
turbid spindleBOT
@ionic flame, :8ball: Yes.
bronze axle
It's going well, though.
quasi mantle
cues the guitar riff
ivory lodge
I'm so tired of watching Unreal videos...when will I know it all?
quasi mantle
!8ball Is Hot Reload bad for people's health?
turbid spindleBOT
@quasi mantle, :8ball: You may rely on it.
quasi mantle
<@!325627930484932608>, :8ball: You may rely on it.
Tell me more sweet little lies, Manny.
quasi mantle
All of those hot reloads just works
thorny dock
Just Worksโข๏ธ
hey also thanks for recommending FM synth earlier, will definitely check it out ๐ป
bronze axle
!server
turbid spindleBOT
quasi mantle
Petition to swap "NaN" with "NyaN"
bronze axle
NaN boosts until undefined, nice
Yeah. undefined is the highest boost tier. It's secret.
I just fixed this in v2. It was bugging me.
Why 69K?
Maybe when we reach 69,420 members.
thorny dock
the mans a genius, free cashews for all!
quasi mantle
hey also thanks for recommending FM synth earlier, will definitely check it out ...
I personally used FM synthesis to make magic noises and anime SFXs, using either Sytrus or OPL3 + basic effects.
bronze axle
Huh, that server info is outdated. There's way more than 10K people online.
I might actually need to request a cap increase soon.
ivory lodge
Petition to swap "NaN" with "NyaN"
Anyone else stop answering questions so newbies stop recruiting you?
bronze axle
!caps
turbid spindleBOT
quasi mantle
"absolute immunities"
quasi mantle
Anyone else stop answering questions so newbies stop recruiting you?
wdym?
bronze axle
We won't hit the member cap for a long time, but we're creeping up on the presence cap.
quasi mantle
hey also thanks for recommending FM synth earlier, will definitely check it out ...
I think one shining example, aside from Mega Drive games, is Vagrant Story, deploying synthesis for sound effects. It's what inspired me to do sound design with more flexible synthesis in the first place.
ivory lodge
@quasi mantle When someone asks for help and you answer them, they tend to remember you forever.
bronze axle
@thorny dock Btw, I'll be looking at your suggestion for a report command again once v2 ships. Way more feasible now because bots can send ephemeral responses. It's probably my favorite new feature.
quasi mantle
<@325627930484932608> When someone asks for help and you answer them, they tend ...
Eh, I don't think so. I dismiss large amount of DMs asking for assistance.
ivory lodge
I've started ignoring people. At most I'll point them to the correct documention or tutorial. I feel bad but I'm limited.
That seems wise.
quasi mantle
Eh, I don't think so. I dismiss large amount of DMs asking for assistance.
Well, I give certain people exceptions to this, but that's kind of a different story.
ivory lodge
Although I love sharing my hard-won knowledge, it took me having to research and experiment to really learn it.
One of the reasons I take so long is that I tend to rip it apart and rebuild it. Except ALS4. Fuck that.
thorny dock
<@!702271954245124127> Btw, I'll be looking at your suggestion for a report comm...
ah yeah, I forgot about that! Nice! the ephemeral messages really should have been put on bots a long time ago, so many practical uses it could have had. now Clyde is more equal to the other bots
quasi mantle
Although I love sharing my hard-won knowledge, it took me having to research and...
I prefer sharing them via a written article or YouTube video (someday, for latter) that anyone can read.
thorny dock
I think one shining example, aside from Mega Drive games, is Vagrant Story, depl...
I've read a few things like this and it's what inspired me to want to look into sfx, some of the methods used are just so cool, thanks for sharing this
celest musk
I'm so tired of watching Unreal videos...when will I know it all?
you have to read and understand the whole source
bronze axle
ah yeah, I forgot about that! Nice! the ephemeral messages really should have be...
Agreed. Ephemeral responses are game changing for bots.
ivory lodge
you have to read and understand the whole source
Yeah... That's going to be a minute. Also, my son loves Bendy.
celest musk
how old is your son?
ivory lodge
celest musk
you let him play that at the age of 12? ๐
thorny dock
well now I absolutely have to check out Bendy
celest musk
oh, i thought it was at least 16+
ivory lodge
@celest musk Actually he loves Bendy. He doesnt play anything except the museum.
quasi mantle
One of the reasons I take so long is that I tend to rip it apart and rebuild it....
To be fair, ALS V4 was finalised shortly before Control Rig become more usable.
But yeah, it's a bitch to modify, along with self documenting BPs. I still don't know why my anime models break after soft retargeting, but I'm sure it's because the mannequin is 180 cm tall, while my main character, Nala, is 160 cm (which is average height for Japanese woman)
celest musk
yea just checked, seems to be 12+
ivory lodge
@quasi mantle There is a lot to it.
celest musk
To be fair, ALS V4 was finalised shortly before Control Rig become more usable.
...
no, it works fine with smol characters for me
ivory lodge
@ionic flame It looks good.
quasi mantle
I hate that it lacks proper documentations, and I hate scouring through BPs for self documentations.
ivory lodge
@ionic flame Isn't that all of them?
quasi mantle
no, it works fine with smol characters for me
Did you do hard retarget?
ivory lodge
@ionic flame I rewrite character interaction code. It was terrible. I have GAS now...
quasi mantle
I'm still considering hard retarget to be the last resort.
ivory lodge
Wow... I must have forgotten Engrish.
celest musk
Did you do hard retarget?
what is hard retarget?
i had to retarget the animation bp, which also did retarget all animations
quasi mantle
what is hard retarget?
As in right click -> retarget animations
quasi mantle
i had to retarget the animation bp, which also did retarget all animations
That's what I call hard retarget.
Soft retarget would be just following the mannequin / base model with some IK adjustment.
celest musk
why not just retarget the whole animation bp and let unreal do the work for you? :>
carmine frigate
i believe that F2P smack the dinosaur game uses ALS
ivory lodge
What is deleting and replacing the skelton with the als one?
@celest musk That would make too much sense.
quasi mantle
why not just retarget the whole animation bp and let unreal do the work for you?...
Well, for one thing, my model is a modified VRoid model, and I have yet to finalise the rig modifications.
carmine frigate
i could try give it a shot for ya
quasi mantle
Was hoping to soft retarget first to see if the modifications are working or not.
celest musk
i wouldn't even bother with soft retarget if your rig isn't the same
carmine frigate
my methods of retargeting are unorthodox ๐
celest musk
but also i dropped a lot of ALS features like foot ik and replaced them with my own
ivory lodge
@carmine frigate If you mean "a crime against man and nature", yes.
carmine frigate
but if an amination is authored for another there is usually clipping stuff
quasi mantle
i wouldn't even bother with soft retarget if your rig isn't the same
It's the same, practically. Used Auto Rig Pro to rerig the model to match UE4 skeleton standard (with additional twist bones)
Save for the height difference.
carmine frigate
@ivory lodge i call it the great miracle of life
celest musk
ALS also handles different scales, like they adjust walk animation speed to the length of the legs
ivory lodge
@quasi mantle I use that plugin too!
quasi mantle
but also i dropped a lot of ALS features like foot ik and replaced them with my ...
The new Control Rig system has far more potential than the simple Two Bone IK node.
carmine frigate
never used that plugin, or any blender rig plugin for that matter
quasi mantle
<@325627930484932608> I use that plugin too!
Nice ๐
celest musk
The new Control Rig system has far more potential than the simple Two Bone IK no...
honestly the FBIK solver from 4.26 worked better for me
the PBIK full body solver acts weird imho
quasi mantle
honestly the FBIK solver from 4.26 worked better for me
Maybe you could bring it over to UE4.27
Wait, you're in UE5, right?
carmine frigate
i might write my own lil reset bone script someday, but considering there are no bone tips in unreal that wil alsays be a hassle
the info just isnt in the fbx sadly
and gltf is basically a copy of fbx
I usually just spend 5 to 10 min settin the bones right if i dont use a prepped skel
i say every skel in MP needs to come with a blend file
like is there any skel on the MP that uses blender orientations?
hmm i actually think the paragon face rigs might have blender orientation, the rest of the rig is pure maya crap offc ๐
thats 2 mixed naming convention also
the face has .l and .r and the rest of the rig is _l and _r
some shit like that
quasi mantle
hmm i actually think the paragon face rigs might have blender orientation, the r...
It would make sense, because they said that the faces are outsourced separately from the body.
carmine frigate
yea it could be made in completely dif software tho
quasi mantle
yea it could be made in completely dif software tho
But how did they combine that tho??? ๐ฎ
carmine frigate
but the description gives the site where they got the face
quasi mantle
Also I hate that the Libre office programs break every GDC / Siggraph slides that were made with PPT.
carmine frigate
i think they got the body from somesort of generator and just stuck a dif head on it
quasi mantle
Many of the slides are literally unreadable under libre stuff
celest musk
yea if you have to weight paint anyways, just drop the mr mannequin skeleton on it and go
i would only try to "safe" an existing rig if it's already weightpainted or i need that specific bone structure for 3rd party animations
carmine frigate
i havent played battlefield after 2
quasi mantle
Let me know if they have bots opponents.
carmine frigate
i bought 3.... origin just new and super crap
i never got to play it once so broken was it
server browser?
quasi mantle
I prefer MP shooters that has bot enemies, so that I can fought against them by myself.
It's kinda shame BF3 forgone bots entirely.
carmine frigate
hmm my memmory is fuzzy on that, also i think i installed origin again much later just to not play any games on it again
soft night
carmine frigate
i did play BFone for like 2 games or something when it was free to test
foggy path
They had bots in the BF2042 beta already I think
soft night
its seems the godzilla day
foggy path
It was kinda hard to tell which was which though
carmine frigate
i totally dont like bots in my MP games
i dont care if i win, i want to make other humanz lose ๐
mweh if i play against bots i rather play a SP story shooter game
played it at a friends place for a few game, some weird autotarget pistol or something
i rather watch a giant robot movie ๐
no
also i dont have conversations with cortana ๐
quasi mantle
this
me and the bot bois spending quality time in:
- cs_italy
- cs_office
- cs_assault
- de_dust2
- de_cbble
- de_aztec
- as_oilrig
fathom wadi
cs_militia is where it's at ยฌ_ยฌ
carmine frigate
i played on the server: dusty dunes in holland... dust 1 and 2 all the time
fathom wadi
i used to play on jolt12 militia only
carmine frigate
๐
celest musk
hm, barely remember that
foggy path
dod_anzio, dod_avalanche, etc. tho 
Yeah, the as_ maps were never popular afaik and disappeared pretty quick
ivory lodge
Too much reading and my brain hurts.
Now the hard part is going on a date and not talking about my game the whole time.
"I'm sorry to hear that your entire family died in a terrible hedgehog accident. Let me tell you about the plugin I'm creating for my game..."
night grove
"I'm sorry to hear that your entire family died in a terrible hedgehog accident....
You are doing it wrong. You are supposed to role play what you want to say, not what you DON'T want to say
"I'm sorry to hear that your entire family died in a terrible hedgehog accident. What are your opinions on Sonic the hedgehog?"
ivory lodge
"Can I run a squeegee across your buttocks?"
night grove
"You don't like video games?" Flip table, date over
ivory lodge
"You don't like video games?" *Flip table, date over*
Like a boss!
thorny dock
i played a lot of cs1.6, never the main modes though, only ever surf and KZ, those were the best of times
night grove
"You don't like video games?" *Flip table, date over*
I actually did this, though not so dramatically. This as in ended a relationship with someone that hated video games. Down side: My SO now requires me to build TWO gaming machines whenever I want an upgrade.
ivory lodge
Yeah, my POI likes games but is very casual.
thorny dock
but de_rats...
ivory lodge
I need to learn level design. But only because I don't have a budget to pay someine.
thorny dock
start with henry the handsome executive, great simple level progression
ivory lodge
?
ivory lodge
I'll take a look. Also... I have to go to the gym. Maybe I can lose 20 lbs in an hour.
ivory lodge
I did it in Grand Theft Auto San Andreas
thorny dock
yeah just spend 10 minutes doing the bike and then just lift the weights until you see your muscle meter maxed irl
should only take a few minutes really
just don't eat too much cluckin bell
you can get the numba 4 just no extra dip
carmine frigate
you could save time by running there lifting ur bike up and down
i should prolly work out some, im by no means heavy but my condition is terrible atm
<@&213101288538374145>
carmine frigate
left moss
2007 computer lol
carmine frigate
carmine frigate
if my clock speed is any faster my clock wil tell the wrong time
left moss
lol
celest musk
it would finish an hour later
carmine frigate
it make future food
you put food in there and its 1 hour into the future, its a time travel device
quasi mantle
The coffee I drank this morning really hits the spot โ
left moss
i am no more communism
left moss
you put food in there and its 1 hour into the future, its a time travel device
so if it's future food is it ahead of our time?
pearl elk
what if the future tastes like ass
pearl elk
bronze axle
Context? You building ue5-main or what?
kindred scarab
conkers bad fur day
pearl elk
Context? You building `ue5-main` or what?
I did build it and it works, just funny Epic talk about 5.0 all the time and it says 5.1 already
the EA wouldnt compile for some reason and it was easier just to update to main
compiled using VS22 as well
thorny dock
you can really get some great abstract art when you approach the limits of the render area in unreal
gusty mica
I did build it and it works, just funny Epic talk about 5.0 all the time and it ...
That's because there's a 5.0 release branch now which is where all work planned for release with 5.0 is being developed in. ue5-main will include the stuff from the 5.0 branch but also any more long term projects that are too risky for the 5.0 timeframe. We increment the version in the main branch when a release branch is created so the version check will help enforce the separation. This is like how when 4.27 got its release branch, ue4 main became 4.28 even if there isn't actually a 4.28
So generally if you want to be working on a source build of UE5 ready for launch you should move to be in the release 5.0 branch and not ue5-main currently
dense storm
@gusty mica the 5.0 branch is the one going for release right?
i also see these two
gusty mica
Unsure what those are for, possibly some sort of branch people are using for integrations or testing, but yes the 5.0 branch on github is the release-5.0 stream on perforce that we'll be releasing from
dense storm
ok cool, i don't have access to the P4, only UDN ๐
pearl elk
I think the UE5-main I chose was identical to the release branch
dense storm
UE5-Main is actually 5.1
at least that is what it says when i launch it
as MrHibbits actually explained
People actually asked if there was a 4.28 cause main builds and says 4.28, i said its likely automated, and it increments when a release branch is made
gusty mica
People actually asked if there was a 4.28 cause main builds and says 4.28, i sai...
I believe the automation here is whoever creates the release stream increments it afterwards ๐
dense storm
yeah, manual automation ๐
i still don't get how big projects manage all the binary assets with source control
everyday we get binary conflicts (and we don't use locking cause we are all remote and causes issues)
not saying our project is small, but our team size is only 30ish
gusty mica
But yeah, ue5-main is not used for active development of what will be the release of ue5. It'll eventually get everything from the release branch but generally it'll get a lot less love for a little while while we're all heads down finishing the 5.0 release
dense storm
one of my biggest gripes is DataTables being binary, these cause us the most conflict
gusty mica
everyday we get binary conflicts (and we don't use locking cause we are all remo...
Sadly the answer is locking and as you say it causes its own set of issues. There's the One File Per Actor stuff in 5.0 which attempts to alleviate some of it but it still causes a lot of pain and messaging people on slack like "Can you let me know when you're done with X so I can have it?"
dense storm
yeah we do that with assets lots of people may touch
but its not optimal, and sometimes people forget
then boom, conflict :p
gusty mica
It's definitely a pain and was my biggest shock when I first joined Epic. I was a research programmer where all my team's stuff was just python or matlab code that was easy to handle on git. (It helped too that our whole team was about 5 people)
dense storm
i am just surprised why a lot of stuff is in binary format, that was the biggest shocker for me years ago when i started using unreal
i understand things like textures, meshes, etc
gusty mica
Not to say their weren't any problems with that stuff but they were different ones like "This researcher learned programming decades ago and refuses to believe variable names can be more than 1 letter long now"
dense storm
ah the old single letter variables
gusty mica
I imagine there was a performance reason but I wouldn't profess to know the inner workings of our asset handling to know how it all works. I've mostly got used to it now but still can be frustrating at times
dense storm
its funny, cause when i look back at my old C code, i can't believe how bad it was, i actually struggled to understand what things were doing
broken sigil
The thing is all of the FProperty and object stuff does support text based serialization as far as I'm aware
I don't think it would be a bad thing to have per asset option to select serialization type ๐คทโโ๏ธ
dense storm
ever since then, i took a step back, and made sure i make my code clearer for other people to read, the best i can.
i mean, for things like DataTables, why can they not be a mergable text format?
pearl elk
I thought DataTables contained the CSV and JSON imports
dense storm
and exports
gusty mica
I am sure there's a valid reason but I don't feel remotely knowledgeable enough in this area ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
pearl elk
structs serialise easy too
dense storm
but the engine stores them serialized
yeah, just ranting @gusty mica
lets me wind down ๐
been one of those days todays, with conflicts
close to DLC release
pearl elk
just gitignore the asset and import it on demand in the project module ๐
dense storm
and last minute tweaks and balance fixes
gusty mica
Oh I love last minute stuff. Always relaxing
gusty mica
Definitely know that feeling from previous projects. You should go crash and recover if you can
dense storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1x6ZbgMSG4 i still like this trailer
broken sigil
I need to fix my sleep schedule...
I work overnight because that's the only time I have peace and quiet, go to bed at 2pm and wake up at 9pm, forgot what the sun looks like ๐
gusty mica
pretty much every GDC or Siggraph with Epic I end up doing a similar thing to get the demo running and then I am pretty much dead after. At least we could always take some leave after to recover which was nice
gusty mica
Good!
gusty mica
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1x6ZbgMSG4 i still like this trailer
That is a nice trailer. I'm a big fan of a trailer that shows be very early on what the game actually is. There've been some trailers I've seen recently which left me like "That was very pretty, I wonder what it is?"
dense storm
yeah, mostly all of that trailer is actual gameplay footage
which i find a lot of trailer lately don't contain
gusty mica
Anyways I'm going to take my own advice and crash for the night. Nice chatting to you all. Use the 5.0 release branch and not ue5-main.
dense storm
Take care, have a good night
thorny dock
fluid bloom
great, wife managed to sprain her arm somehow and now she can't lift our four month old baby anymore xO
rip me
had to wake up at 1, 3 and 6 am to lift the baby from the crib to the bed so she could feed him
carmine frigate
did u know some tribes make a lil cut under the eyes of their baby so when it cries it hurts and they stop
fluid bloom
duct tape the babby to the boob
it'd probably suffocate that way ๐
carmine frigate
@zinc matrix its a way of life thats been working for 1000s of years. while giving a 4 year old a phone with internet is completely untested
so who are the bad parents?
carmine frigate
mayB a baby that cries is like a dinner bell for hungry animals, but could have other reasoning
i would die there in less than a week, so who am i to say they are doin it wrong? ๐
quasi mantle
TFW it's first time you played super fast tetris
fluid bloom
I wish I could ban google search from displaying stuff with imperial units in them when I'm asking things like "motor oil freezing point" or such
it gives me an answer of -20 F for that
what does that even mean
foggy path
Wolfram Alpha knows the Brookfield viscosity of 10W-30 but doesn't know the freezing point
:D
fluid bloom
soft night
sauna where heat is unrelevant when it go to 100C hehe
mellow pewter
What software are you guys using when you just want to record something from your desktop to share/ask on discord? I'm going crazy here, gforce experience wont let me upload it and windows record is too much work... ๐
fathom wadi
obs usually.
cursive crypt
obsuoisly
soft night
obiossecretly
cursive crypt
I'm so waiting for multi-account support on Discord. Hope it comes soon. I need to sneak into some servers.
soft night
burnt lake
torpid ice
besides UNreal marketplace what the best place to sell unreal products?
carmine frigate
streetcorners
torpid ice
I'n kind of getting fet up with unreal customer support
ivory lodge
@torpid ice they have customer support?
torpid ice
lol
it's the cockblock to your selling ambitions
and I never use that word but it fits.
carmine frigate
you could sell stuff on itch, but devs are not goin to find ur product there on their own
torpid ice
?itch?
foggy path
yeah UE marketplace is probably where most folks would look for UE stuff
if you sell on some other platform, you need to somehow make people aware of your stuff on the other platform
if you have some fairly niche product that might by itself help if your product shows up on relevant google searches, but beyond that it might be difficult
carmine frigate
mayB artstation
torpid ice
@foggy path yah but I can't sell on unreal see the above message
foggy path
well all you said is that you're fed up with support, that's not really "can't", more like "won't" lol
torpid ice
@carmine frigate isn't artsation owned by unreal