lounge

[celest musk]

school teaches way more than just "job skills"

[trail wedge]

it can, but there are also other ways to learn especially today

[celest musk]

yes

[trail wedge]

plus I learned everything being taught how do think got those As and perfect AP scores

I just didn't need practice work and didn't feel like doing homework

true but if I wanted to get into those I would have cared I guess... never too late to get useless paper saying I know stuff; just costs money

[carmine frigate]

as long as ppl dont know what im talking about... i sound pretty smart 😛

[trail wedge]

lol

[carmine frigate]

mayB its just cuz i dont try explain everything with sports examples

[trail wedge]

yeh if you did that I bet it'd be a home run

then you'd really score some points

and reach your goal

........touchdown

I usually start by interrogating people to find out what they know before I explain anything 😛

then you guys say I'm being mean

🙃

[carmine frigate]

so a game engine is like a soccor field.. and than gamedevs draw 6 lines on it and ppl can play soccer

and twitch is the stadium

[trail wedge]

no... I said NO LUCIO BALL

jk

are you the guy reaching in to stop me 😛

but they were hot reloading they deserved it

[carmine frigate]

hmm think i misspelled soccer and prolly got the amount of lines wrong.. i suck at this

[trail wedge]

funny thing is the word soccer comes from the UK

it was short for a "Association Football"er

exactly

but it's funny since we never called it "Association Football" so the part of the phrase that became soccer wasn't part of anything we called it

meh sports are overrated (watching them, not playing)

I dunno personally I don't see the entertainment, I also don't find any entertainment watching people play video games aside from hearing/seeing their reactions to things (like game story etc)

multiplayer streaming is just boring imo

makes me want to just play instead

see that's where we differ, I don't want any strats that aren't mine; the fun is in making the strat not executing it imo

I watch most things at 2x+ speed

people talk too slow on the whole

well I don't like dubs

I am a pretty fast reader tho

I think we can all agree there are the rare good dubs tho

[carmine frigate]

i had a phase where i would put up a language starter audio thing when i travel... i speak a lil russian now 😛

[trail wedge]

DB dub is ok if you grew up with it (I did) but Bebop is just better dubbed than subbed imo

[carmine frigate]

when u know like a 100 words including vodka... you can have a pretty fun conversation

[trail wedge]

lol I bet

[carmine frigate]

i can read and speak german pretty well, some french, i am dutch.. my english might be better tho 😛

[trail wedge]

took 4 years of German in HS, know a small amount of Japanese, and really small amounts of Spanish and French

[carmine frigate]

i can say harigato and sake

[trail wedge]

also can read korean phonetically (it's easy) but that doesn't mean I know what the word is

[carmine frigate]

also i can do kareoke so im all good there 😛

well i cant write it

[trail wedge]

I think they meant arigato but that's super casual

lol

[carmine frigate]

the h is silent 😛

or non existent

[trail wedge]

and invisible

is it already 2042? time flies

[left moss]

JOHN XINA

[obtuse glacier]

i have a ryzen 3550H CPU

i was wondering if i can use my GOU mostly

since its the more powerful one

also my task manager said that Blender only using 20% of my GPU

GPU*

yeah ill try to fix it if ya cant

apperently theres a guy who made that spy demo animation in blender that can sort of help

its funny

because in unreal i can get a solid 60 fps playbacking my animation

while in blender both playbacking fluids and playbacking animations is 11

[obtuse glacier]

with Ctrl rig

[quasi mantle]

Well, Blender doesn't prioritise on realtime performance.

[obtuse glacier]

yeah true enough

[dim ruin]

#toosoon but its still funny

[quasi mantle]

Unreal also renders, what do you expect?

Fucking got ya cracker

[trail wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYv3-HfRNcA&t=7s

[obtuse glacier]

We have the case where 1 renders in realtime and the other you can just sleep for 3 days while it renders

[warped pine]

How my night is going:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQkvh9H0NvM

[night grove]

What a coincidence!

[warped pine]

What I was actually trying to do was make it so that characters have a small turning circle, kind of like what you see on mounts in some games like ARK or Skyrim or Guild Wars 2

But uhh, it only works correctly for Forward input lmao

Left/Right drifts

[night grove]

Oh I see

[night grove]

I was looking at something like this a couple days ago

I think the CMC's turn rate is visual only

Not sure if you are doing C++ or BP, but you'll have to buffer and slow your input to match the turn rate you want

Or something like that

I haven't worked out a good way to fix the sideways sliding

I might just "hack it" and have a very high turn rate

[warped pine]

Yeah, Rotation Rate and acceleration are not connected properties by default. At rotation rates of 360+ this isn't really an issue, but going below 360 makes it more obvious.

Even at 360 it's a little visible if you look close and 270 or below makes it unacceptably obvious.

[night grove]

Yeah

[warped pine]

It actually works as intended with the forward input, like so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmDhXDU4JQA

[night grove]

It was quite the buzz kill when I linked my GAS effects to "cripple" the character and found the skating

[warped pine]

I think I'll move into #blueprint for the associated graph-work

[night grove]

Makes sense

[warped pine]

I just posted the video here to shitpost lol

[night grove]

Don't be off topic in #lounge!

Might get the banhammer!

[trail wedge]

yeh this is the 2nd cpp channel

[zinc matrix]

yo hello

figured I would join and hopefully make friends

I feel like some people are touchy on how you ask things when you don't know what to ask correctly here

but that is just me probably

[trail wedge]

you can ask anything in the lounge, but you gotta follow the rules about topics in the other channels

mostly

[cursive crypt]

#rules and #more-resources really. In general UE topics go to other channels. Here it is about mumbo-jumbo which sometimes include UE.

[unborn lotus]

https://twitter.com/SnazzyQ/status/1453143510111059968

Quinn Nelson (@SnazzyQ)

WTF HAHAHAHA HOW IS THIS SHIPPABLE? WHAT IS THIS?! https://t.co/epse3Cv3xF

Retweets

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Likes

49006

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Twitter · Oct 26, 2021, 11:36 PM

[cursive crypt]

Ah, the camera thingie, yeah, devs should be careful

*mac devs, lol

I think this was some of their new products.

Tru

However... why buying this nonsense with this defect 🤔

Return it for burned pixels.

[quasi mantle]

That's Apple for you.

Heard Samsung already following suit with their tabs.

Though maybe it's a mock leak

[obtuse glacier]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxmjc2ueCmC5Fl04LyaDWmmmWJFZsZzGeJ

[foggy path]

The one thing I'd like in a laptop is not a notch but a builtin feature to cover the camera :p

[obtuse glacier]

i think the best laptop for me is the ability to playback animations in 60fps

@brisk ether yooo help MEEEEE

tutorial didnt work

now it went from 11 to 3 to 4 frames

playbacking animations

alright

Here

2.92

alright i sort of fixed it

i didnt realize my power option was battery saver but its still 11 FPS

the fram dropping sync kinda helped a bit sooo

yeah i need more FPS

[quasi mantle]

I don't think big studio computers are able to get real-time framerate in DCC tools anyway. Often times they had to make playblasts to check the animation in "realtime" framerate.

[obtuse glacier]

i see

ill try it

[cursive crypt]

Also an earplug for microphone.

[obtuse glacier]

why do you need an earplug for microphone?

[obtuse glacier]

Oh wow it works

oh yeah apperently i just have to play the view render animation button on the viewports view tab

its now 18 to 20 FPS!!!!

i just click that and then a tab opens and i just leave it

yeah

thanks

[quasi mantle]

Basically previz render of the scene, no proper materials or anything, just prerendering the viewport

[median wraith]

illumination needs a rework there looks kinda flat and there is too much foliage

also the floor is too dark for the light bounces

[quasi mantle]

Use the sky light, either dynamic or using HDRI cubemap.

[pearl elk]

https://fortune.com/2021/10/29/john-carmack-facebook-oculus-metaverse-mark-zuckerberg/

[cursive crypt]

No good?

... yeah

Meta = VR MMO

[pearl elk]

lol from what I can tell they cant even do 16 people let alone hundreds

[carmine frigate]

what he says is... if the money they spend now isnt spend right its money gone

and also that if the users dont have full controll its gunna be bad

yea, but i think VR chat did a pretty big thing and basically maxed it

[pearl elk]

probably just ban people after they are reported for saying the wrong thing

hell you cant stop people abusing people IRL I doubt they'll fix it in virtual

auto change their name to Karen hehe

it is actually a pretty big societal problem

airline hostess got her nose busted just the other day for bumping a guy

[carmine frigate]

how dare she

but serious how stupid can you be 😛

[pearl elk]

airlines are saying that these occurrences are escalating and getting more frequent

[carmine frigate]

a plane is like the worst place to start bustin noses

[pearl elk]

suppose he's lucky they didnt just throw him out

but that's the mentality of a growing number of people is its not about anyone else but them, they dont really care if they disrupt everyone elses lives

[carmine frigate]

if the pilot decides to land than it could cost you 100s of thousands of $$

[pearl elk]

well he's banned, might get fined up to 50k and is looking at criminal charges too so atleast the airline is protecting its employees

but thats the thing of it, there was no way to stop it before it happened

[soft night]

metamonsy is now the thing

we are all meta in someway

[pearl elk]

Aussies dont even exist so Im dark meta 😛

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnSUk0je6oo

Im assuming those quotes are from this

[carmine frigate]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/asc-teuthisan

free stuff and its got a controlrig 😛

[pearl elk]

oh cool, thats pretty mean looking

[deep glen]

oh neat

[carmine frigate]

🎁

[pearl elk]

well thats odd, click the link for it in the launcher and instead of going to the MP page in the launcher it opened a browser window

[carmine frigate]

launcher..

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-不造-i-dont-know-gif-5094560

[pearl elk]

thats where you access the content once its bought, I mean personally Id love to ditch it and just use the browser

[cursive crypt]

Nuclear Launcher.

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/alien-sygourney-weaver-i-say-we-take-off-and-nuke-the-entire-site-from-orbit-its-the-only-way-to-be-sure-movie-quotes-gif-11314084

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-bomb-nuclear-blast-explosion-gif-8228550

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-shoot-bug-firing-gif-17413233

now go make that scene?

[pearl elk]

why make a metaverse when you can make a betaverse 😮

[quasi mantle]

Why make a metaverse when we already have crippling depression in the realverse

[soft night]

unrealverse the better than realverse

[cursive crypt]

uVerse

[quasi mantle]

Also metaverse felt like the universe of MGS2, with all being unclear if it's a simulation or not, and with the tech overlords creating one, there'll be some kind of even more unvafourable control of information for the good of mankind.

[soft night]

Verse

[cursive crypt]

ie microverse

[pearl elk]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/af/30/9f/af309f736eaf2f54099f1749221a3914.gif

[cursive crypt]

Nah, micro, only up to 8 ppl

MMO, but smaller

[pearl elk]

8 people made of a billion ants

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/legion-jjs-legion-gifs-legion-after-dark-legion-fx-gif-14623478

[cursive crypt]

Antite tech

[pearl elk]

it has the best ant-ialiasing

https://tenor.com/view/ant-man-laugh-laughing-ahaha-giant-gif-17300909

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/ant-man-shrinking-shrink-ants-marvel-gif-11626187

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/IlArf/8c74b2360a.jpg

well that works now, realised my mortar calculations were wrong

suppose I need to do the vertical ones now and the half ones

https://puu.sh/IlAtP/f985591c66.jpg

but I do want to do the doors and windows gen 😦

[median wraith]

Poor John Carmack and the rabbit hole where they moved he

[median wraith]

that totally looks like the dude of Dead by daylight, where that came from ?

[carmine frigate]

that unreal movie thing

[median wraith]

is that posted somewhere ?=

[carmine frigate]

yes

i think it was this

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/webinar-the-next-step-in-virtual-production

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/IlAKC/40638a264a.jpg

VR Yoshi approves of my wall

[median wraith]

still don't know what are you doing

[pearl elk]

Im saying goodbye to 2d bricks

I suppose I could do a screen share so you can see how the wall is dynamically created

[median wraith]

this is UE5 ?

[pearl elk]

yup, nanite

[foggy path]

Landlord's Super UE edition? :P

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/IlAOm/adbfae12d5.jpg

Im just so sick of this junk

[deep glen]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hulu-snl-saturday-night-live-nbc-3o7TKPdUkkbCAVqWk0

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/IlAQD/7e911bad4a.jpg

this is atleast alittle better

[unborn lotus]

But no one cares about bricks 😶

[pearl elk]

yes well, you'll love it when you can blow holes in the walls 🙂

this is all static junk in comparison

so more polys and less static win/win

[ancient ingot]

more polys more polys !!

[pearl elk]

I will texture the bricks with nicer albedos at some point, add normals in an atlas to make it nice and performant but for testing nanite meshes with base colour is fine

still be less memory than a decent displacement, not like I can use tessellation anyways

[ancient ingot]

oooo snazzy

[pearl elk]

some of the best brick textures Ive seen would have to be Homefront: The Revolution

https://www.deepsilver.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/nggallery/homefront-the-revolution/homefront_4.jpg

game is like 5 years old

[carmine frigate]

isnt nanite pretty static?

https://tenor.com/view/dexters-lab-dexters-laboratory-dee-dee-dee-button-gif-17350140

[night grove]

<@&213101288538374145> ^ 2 posts up

[fluid bloom]

https://giphy.com/gifs/snl-saturday-night-live-season-46-znqw31I9dBDI4QJtxP

[deep glen]

thanks, already saw it :)

[night grove]

Woosh! That was fast!

[pearl elk]

I have noticed some issues on fast moving nanites but no you can add physics to an actor with a nanite static mesh component

Im sure Epic will sort out issues with geo collections so it should be functional with chaos to atleast some degree

[carmine frigate]

ahh than u just cant move it in the shader

[pearl elk]

I think for falling building bits it should be okay, Niagara will probably do the heavy lifting in that case

the issue with shaders probably has alot to do with vert counts, vert shaders were quite fast on Quake 3 geo but on nanite hehe

[carmine frigate]

you can also move pixels

[pearl elk]

but Epic did say they were working on supporting skinned meshes so maybe skeletons will be an option there

Im alittle bit miffed about spline meshes not working but I can totally see why it doesnt work currently

I dont think you can move pixels with Nanite though, the verts are being rearranged on the fly which Im assuming interferes with the UVs of the displayed meshes so doing surface ops can get distorted, least from my understanding. Wish Epic would do more deep dives on the actual render queue and which buffers go where, there was a good one back when they updated the AO probably the best one Ive seen

screen pixels are alittle different cuz its later

should probably call em texels to avoid confusion 🙂

[carmine frigate]

ye pixels come later so i dont see why u cant push em

[pearl elk]

you could but it wont be uniform because of the way nanite handles the verts, it could lead to tearing if youre not careful

I think the idea with nanite is to remove the need for texels as a way to improve performance, to render only what you need to not more then sample down

geo shaders should be a thing though, not sure how Epic handles any of that

unless nanite hooks into some of those layers to do what it does which means you would have to know where to place your operations, engine level mods yay lol

nanodes

[obtuse glacier]

question: is it better to add a child of constraint to the magazine of the gun when creating reloads or the wrist? (blender)

cuz i seem to fucked up

[cursive crypt]

#blender

sausages

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/crow-tv-news-accident-funny-gif-15791216

[obtuse glacier]

ngl

someone add keemstar scream to that bird

[pearl elk]

whats a keemstar

sounds like a cool boy band

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-weather-fail-gif-8232847

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/twister-tornado-gif-5028818

[mossy nexus]

Ugh. Unreal hates me today. Engine froze. Had to reboot PC. Task manager still shows the editor running. Meh.

[pearl elk]

MetaNet

https://tenor.com/view/manatee-aquarium-smush-burmgahp-funny-gif-22067632

[cursive crypt]

boop

[soft night]

MannyNet?

[pearl elk]

MoNet

https://tenor.com/view/6m-rain-wallstreet-make-it-rain-gif-8203989

[mossy nexus]

Those without an understanding of French may struggle with this one 😄

[pearl elk]

so Roblox went down because of free burritos lol

[cursive crypt]

wut

[pearl elk]

https://www.gameinformer.com/2021/10/29/free-burritos-may-have-knocked-roblox-offline

[cursive crypt]

I would too munch on burrito than that.

[pearl elk]

scary booritos

https://tenor.com/view/braves-beauty-queen-gif-12636621

[cursive crypt]

Are you selling our IP?

[pearl elk]

maybe you could save space in your database by logging repeated messages count rather than the content

depends on how long you keep the log for, you could end up with years worth of OMEGALUL

string comparison aint exactly fast though

twitch doesnt have an API to get userIDs?

I suppose that could have some benefits, if you log on different services and people use the same usernames

Im going to have to deduct points for not supporting dark theme 😉

its so bad when I got my hue lights active syncing with the screen and a white page comes up, I feel like a vampire every time

not sure where the idea that screens should mimic paper came from, I kinda understand it in word for a print preview

light colour mixing and ink colour mixing are completely different though

I suppose in a lighter environment it can be less reflective

I just put my screen somewhere it doesnt reflect everything 🙂

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/glitter-drop-rain-slow-circle-gif-8133305

[thorny dock]

new world client is authoritative

for 2 weeks now, while playing in windowed mode, you can dark souls roll your character to enter invincibility frames, then you grab your window with your mouse, and it freezes your client, making you invincible

truly incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLtLxTahSjo

[mossy nexus]

Now they need to fix the code injection via the games chat and everything is great 😄 😄

New world yeah, they messed up and you can embed html code into chat, letting you do silly things like make a picture appear on someones screen or cause it to go into an endless loop and kill the client

Not Dream World, that would be expected but New World by Amazon

ah, well that makes sense. Probably. 😄

[pearl elk]

pulls out his covid excuse punch card

one more and I get a free coffee

[thorny dock]

wow code injection thats amazing, IIRC thats what took down high fidelity VR, and was quickly replaced by VR chat

[pearl elk]

Neuralink code injection is gonna be fun

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-puppet-on-a-string-monitoring-animation-no-freedom-gif-16683829

what bout BiFi

like WiFi but for your brain

[regal pecan]

That makes less sense than WiFi for your brain.

[pearl elk]

yeah well you dont want to use standard protocols too much interference

last thing you want to do is have a car accident cuz your phone paired to your eyeballs

[regal pecan]

UDP over wireless
oh wait, that's called voice control

[pearl elk]

yay docs to my brain, so I can find even more typos

better be a blocker for people calling your brain too

[regal pecan]

We've been trying to contact you about your brain's extended warranty.

Destroy their phone.

[pearl elk]

stop rendering them

all ghost like

who said that...

so is everyone excited for Truth Social?

finally a social media platform thats all about the truth and isnt out to exploit people

I hope MySpace Tom adds me on there and Taco from Trello

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19494622

https://tenor.com/view/pauly-shore-encino-man-no-wheezing-the-juice-juice-slushie-gif-17036547

[thorny dock]

nuralink code injection makes it sound so matrix-y. simply the brain is proven by science to send, and receive brainwaves. Valve claims they have successfully "written" to the brain

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/jinyoung-judgmental-got7-kpop-meme-gif-13883493

[trail wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh2NZWBvfWI

[pearl elk]

Not sure what is less cool than C++ 😛

yup lost cuz no ones invented a good programming language yet

not strict for starters, managed with automation not just simple macros, focusing on ease of use through the use of human language not machine

nothing wrong with humans who want to talk like machines, Im just not one of em

[trail wedge]

that would never be specific enough to make concise code

it would be unweildy

[regal pecan]

code doesn't need to be concise if your IDE abbreviates hard enough

[trail wedge]

programming is always going to be some hybrid between writing instructions in a conversational-ish langauage and raw math

[trail wedge]

if you want it not to look like a mess

noobs just want it easy and don't understand how messy noob friendly coding gets

[pearl elk]

the machines know more about what they want than I do, so losing control is okay with me as long as they do a good job

[regal pecan]

machine code isn't messy
it's obnoxious

[pearl elk]

I trust them more than humans when it comes to being concise 😛

[trail wedge]

I'm making an oversimplification, but essentially my argument is that the people proposing "easier" coding haven't seen what a headache it really is to make something actually useful in the real world

[trail wedge]

I dunno if it's healthy to have that little faith in yourself

[pearl elk]

maybe these "people" have 30yrs programming experience and are just sick and tired of it all

[trail wedge]

I do too, doesn't mean we can't have different opinions 🙂

[pearl elk]

true but I didnt start by belittling other people, I simply dont like C++

[trail wedge]

meh, I was just being honest with my opinion; sorry not sorry

🙂

[regal pecan]

We will never reach a stage where performance doesn't matter. The universe will always make a bigger idiot workload.

[pearl elk]

Yeah and I dont use my knowledge of programming languages to feed my ego

Id rather them be more useful than keep my ego secure

[trail wedge]

umm ok you were the one who brought that up tho 🙃

[regal pecan]

And then someone decides that every phone should have an app that streams high def video constantly and instantaneously.

I cry for the bandwidth spent on tiktok

[pearl elk]

a machine might be able to calculate exactly how long that eternity is, I surely cant

[regal pecan]

I'm not sure performance and programming languages are directly connected anyway (unless the "language" has a proprietary compiler?)

[pearl elk]

some compilers are generated by compiler generators they arnt actually written by humans

I think thats because machines write better machine code 😛

pretty common thing in encryption too, humans love patterns

[regal pecan]

Imagine needing an architecture-proficient engineer to do your compiling.

[pearl elk]

well you get an architect to draw the pictures, the engineer makes sure it wont fall over

[regal pecan]

It gets better when you learn Intel CPUs have another CPU inside them.

So even the machine code isn't the machine code.

[pearl elk]

well with inference the machine can optimise its own data structures, you just cant use a strict language shrugs

the modelling uses fixed types but you get this layering simple macros or templates will never be able to do

we parse code for highlighting and human help but maybe those resources are better spent on just letting the machine interpret and repair our mistakes

when I write I have my own short hand even in pseudo code, I dont expect anyone else to be able to read it but it would be awesome if I could focus on the function not the language

after all, its the purpose which is important right. You can say hello in any language and its still hello

[trail wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/beepboopbop-bmo-adventure-time-gif-10743152

[tulip orbit]

no, in french its "bonjour"

I pinged the wrong person. oh well.

[pearl elk]

I wasnt going to list hello in every language, which kinda proves my point too

computer tell them what hello is in every language 😛

[tulip orbit]

what, you got better things to do?

[pearl elk]

I think theres even some languages with no written component so you'll need your audio on 😉

[tulip orbit]

like programming via speech to text?

[pearl elk]

could help if you dont have the use of your hands

[trail wedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvAEMz64O9c&t=5s

[pearl elk]

there was this famous physicist guy cant remember his name but really bright fellow in a wheel chair hehe

[tulip orbit]

if(variablea == trueyeshoney shit fuck backspace gahh damnit

[trail wedge]

...Stephen Hawking?

surely you're joking about not knowing his name?

[pearl elk]

foreach(daddy is working hunny){PleaseComeback(1hr);}

[drifting quest]

hi

[trail wedge]

ih

[drifting quest]

are you working on a game?

[trail wedge]

not at the moment, I'm wasting time in Discord 😛

[drifting quest]

hehe

yeah im tired, i did code a little but not much

[tulip orbit]

I am, building a factory in satisfactory

[pearl elk]

I only follow one channel so my wastage is minimized

[trail wedge]

that means nothing

I follow #cpp time wastage is maximal

[drifting quest]

haha

[trail wedge]

all the other channels are dead compared to it 🙃

[pearl elk]

theyre not dead, just waiting for garbage to be collected

[drifting quest]

lol there is a food chan

[pearl elk]

thats cuz Luos kept posting bbq in here making everyone hungry 😛

[drifting quest]

hehe

[trail wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-ooh-i-smell-barbecue-bbq-sniffing-gif-17009641

[drifting quest]

what cpp project are you working on?

[trail wedge]

I dunno, every project I'm working on uses c++ and there are tons

kinda a general question really

[drifting quest]

ok just working on one 😄

[trail wedge]

?

[drifting quest]

me

im

[trail wedge]

oh ok

[trail wedge]

which version

[trail wedge]

Windows 7, Window 8, Windows 10, Windows 11, etc

there are tons of other flavors for servers too

[timber viper]

Alien Isolation? Xenomorph?

[trail wedge]

sadly had to abandon 7 a bout 6 months ago for 10

glad I'm not on 11

[timber viper]

I'm on 11

11 with fancy ui

not really

it would be even worse

[trail wedge]

The UI is why I don't want 11

go use a mac if you hate the Windows 9x layout

[timber viper]

I cant use mac 😦

I rather linux but no gaming and UE works with problems there

[trail wedge]

nobody should use a mac anyway

🙂

I use a program called Classic Shell to gimme my 98 start menu back

[quasi mantle]

As much as I dislike Linux, I'd say that Linux is good for dev stuff like web dev, Android dev, running servers (for web, Git repos, etc). Some distros like Arch could give you street cred as well.

As for gaming, there's Proton, which is basically Wine compat layer but optimised for gaming. Or if you want to waste your time, build a Windows KVM and use hardware pinning, which might be useful for anti cheat evasion.

[carmine frigate]

mint is decent for casual use

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, in case of game dev with Unreal Engine, you'd want full access to the bare metal as much as possible to save time.

Besides, Unreal Engine on Windows can cross compile a project to Linux.

[carmine frigate]

if u build dedi server u better do it for linux

from the start

well u need at least a computer to test it 😛

after not havin used linux for years i was able to install blender and krita w/o problems so its good for that if you dont need more

[quasi mantle]

Most opem source content creation tools are available for Windows anyway.

[carmine frigate]

we all know we can use windows for stuff 😛

[red pewter]

there are still weirdos on windows 7

read the room man!!!

[carmine frigate]

well win7 wasnt that bad

[red pewter]

true, but I think it's weird to stay on it with a modern pc

[quasi mantle]

In their defense, maybe their hardware is so ancient that they still use Windows 7.

It was good at the time, and surpassing Windows 8 identity crisis edition.

[red pewter]

if they are truly on a potato it might matter

just about everything still runs on it afaik

[quasi mantle]

But even then that kind of potato would be struggling with UnityEd, let alone UnrealEd.

[red pewter]

true, I guess I mean just in general pc use

[trail wedge]

no there just was no good reason to move and 10 still sucks, my pc is not a potatoe

[quasi mantle]

Windows 10 is decent nowadays, particularly with more recent updates.

[trail wedge]

I only moved to 10 because Epic added a dependency that made an annoying popup come up when the launcher/editor started

if you were not using 10 or newer

[quasi mantle]

Compared to the initial 2015 version, recent versions are miles better.

[trail wedge]

yeh well anything is better than that

[quasi mantle]

I agree to disagree.

[trail wedge]

wut?

that's not the phrase

it's "let's agree to disagree", you can't just declare it one-sided 😛

[quasi mantle]

Oh yes, you can.

Again, I agree to disagree.

[trail wedge]

lol ok... just makes you sound like english isn't your first language but do what you want

🙂

[quasi mantle]

Because it isn't lol 🙈

[trail wedge]

well I was giving you a tip then

🤷‍♂️

mmmm look at that delicious Win98 style Start Menu

[trail wedge]

Some distros like Arch could give you street cred as well

lol, try Gentoo and report back 😛

[foggy path]

compile your own distro

gentoo is for posers

[trail wedge]

umm but Gentoo is the distro where you compile everything on your own computer....

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-talking-about-huh-what-what-are-you-saying-stirring-gif-17820207

not just linux, every application gets compiled from source

[foggy path]

but it's still managed by someone else

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-rowan-atkinson-bean-bean-movie-working-title-films-gif-15034595

[trail wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fish-ghosts-ghost-gif-20371674

[foggy path]

Exactly lol

personally I fail to see the benefit of using Gentoo unless you have some really niche usecase :P

of course that's just from the perspective of "why bother" but if you're just using it for shits and giggles then go for it lol

[cursive crypt]

Windows is the best

[trail wedge]

no real benefit, was fun back in the day (like 14 years ago); I use Debian for linux

[foggy path]

heh

yeah I remember it was the cool thing to do a while back

rarely hear anyone talk about it nowadays

[trail wedge]

Windows is my main OS; Linux for all my servers, a bunch of VMs and stuff like my Chromebook or my 3D printer controller pc

[foggy path]

Yeah I like using linux for dev stuff since most things I do tend to work more easily out of the box there but I use windows otherwise and mac laptops

[trail wedge]

so Linux is the vast majority of my computing, but my main PC that I do everything on is Windows

I do all my dev work on Windows generally

and obviously gaming

[foggy path]

it seems it might be a bit easier to set up nowadays since WSL exists

[trail wedge]

yeh haven't messed with that yet

[foggy path]

I know at least one of my coworkers is using it and hasn't complained about anything yet :D

[red pewter]

feels insane when we already had second life 15 years ago

I don't think anyone needs a zoom call with poorly done facetracking

[rare sparrow]

My favorite part of that was how their demonstration of what the Metaverse is was literally just VR Chat with Skype integration

[quasi mantle]

https://youtu.be/uCGD9dT12C0

[red pewter]

image of my MetaVerse avatar I'm taking to my online divorce hearing:

[fathom wadi]

that takes me back to 1987 or so when I was on the schoolbus doing my homework and listening to this on my walkman. Great tune.

[pearl elk]

whats a walkman?

is that like the running man but you mix in some moon walk

[foggy path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKQa7uvHAKc

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3ZVygTBQ2g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m97WlpsuU74

this is where it all started, TikTok owes it all to this song 😛

[foggy path]

the original song from 92 is better

:P

[pearl elk]

yeah but no one on tiktok was around in 92 😉

It was the freshest move Ive ever seen, it was like he was floating on air hehe

[cursive crypt]

Thought that's Britney Spears

[pearl elk]

Britney Spears has only just been released from captivity

Benny Lava though has been free this entire time 😛

[median wraith]

XD

[cursive crypt]

Cleans you out of your passwords?

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/sus-gif-22757364

[carmine frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/nyc-mr-clean-nycrhythm-mrclean-mrclean-nyc-djnice-mr-clean-gif-20575384

[median wraith]

xddd

[median wraith]

could be included

[carmine frigate]

he is called mr muscle here from some cleaning product

[cursive crypt]

Mr. Popper around, afaik.
Also its more of mr. Fit Ass. If I'm seeing correctly it is to appeal to certain customer base.

[median wraith]

Yeah here had Mr Propper or something

[cursive crypt]

Ah, true, that sounds more correct, lol

He is not poppin' something.

[median wraith]

XD

Man I'm watching GI videos, because someone posted in other subchannel the nvidia one

the more I see this things and after use in profesional way the light baker now

makes me thing: Man we are years ago from get the baker quality with this crap and with this huge costs

like the people will notice the improve lets say in open world games

but won't at games like lets say COD

[cursive crypt]

Bakin' ain't goin anywhere soon. It is not something stupid with no benefits.

So, yeah, years.

[left moss]

lol

[pearl elk]

I think you'll find art is more constrained by costs than tools no matter which method you choose

What looks better barely factors in to the equation, its which will give me the best results in the least amount of time

I do wish there were more full length adult feature films done entirely in CG though, its pretty clear real-time will always be behind

https://twitter.com/DevteamL/status/1454241740433641473

Devteam Life (@DevteamL)

Sorry not sorry.

#gamedev #videogamestudios #comics #strip #developers #devteam #gamedevjobs #StarCitizen @CloudImperium

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[cursive crypt]

lol

[pearl elk]

so many people rushing to get Halloween updates out just to break their games to update again sigh

https://puu.sh/IlOUl/1e31c17345.jpg

suppose I cant talk, I broke my thing somehow

I really need editor overlap events, couldnt find any info on that though

[north adder]

@lusty ginkgo 👋

[lusty ginkgo]

hi

[pearl elk]

Yeah it looks cool but its not intentional, I know what the issue is its that in BoxOverlapComponents function doesnt have an input for rotation. If I had editor overlaps I could use the box component Im using to visualise it and its relative coords rather than world

[quasi mantle]

Honest question:
Should knowledge be held hostage behind paywalls?

Let's say knowledge and general information on game development workflows.

This sounds so awfully familiar with someone I aware of 🤔
Not in this server, but somewhere on Twitter's content creation section.

Are there any objection for making said knowledge freely available for everyone?

[carmine frigate]

i dont have to tell u shit 😛

should incorrect knowlege be destroyed? 😛

[celest musk]

yea it keeps a bunch of people busy and so they wont do other stupid things 😄

at least on software level it's something we can live with, doesn't necessary apply to every field of knowledge

[carmine frigate]

you need to login on artstation to browse it now ...

doesnt that like kill ur site activity?

[pearl elk]

you can view public stuff on FB without an account

[zinc matrix]

endless, networked desert
https://i.imgur.com/nFaJwW9.jpeg
solid foundation for my new rpg-rts game
what do you think people

what you mean

but u didnt say why it looks bad

and what specifically

[night grove]

The grass looks like it's floating

Lighting needs work

But... my game looks way worse in that respect right now

[zinc matrix]

wym color palette is off?

[quasi mantle]

Also Twitter

(at least after few pages)

[night grove]

You'd be best serve making sure your prototype is FUN before spending a lot of time on the looks

A lot of stuff will end up on the cutting room floor

Here's what my game looks like in editor right now

You can't tell in the picture, but there is even Z fighting

But I'm not worried about the looks yet

I'm still working on the foundation

I have to get my game loop running before I worry about fixing materials, color, etc

It's all "programmer art" right now

I have a color palette system that kicks in when you hit play, so everything isn't so blue

[quasi mantle]

Lighting is bad, foliages are terrible.
I'd take looking at level blockouts over that.

And yeah, that. You should develop your gameplay in blockout levels. Environment alone won't bring you that much, unless it's a walking sim.

[zinc matrix]

blockout levels?

it is a walking sim

kinda

[quasi mantle]

Yes. Or as Naughty Dog would call it "block mesh"

[carmine frigate]

@zinc matrix if you hit the search bar u can still browse trending by subject and it wont ask for login 😛

[trail wedge]

You should develop your gameplay in blockout levels

I dunno, there's no one size fits all approach to making games; really depends on what kind of game you are making.

That said, I agree with this approach if you're making a level based game (as opposed to games that don't use levels and are entirely procedurally generated).

In the case of procedurally generated levels, I do think you should make a static test level for testing gameplay features that don't need the level generation to test

[cursive crypt]

https://www.androidauthority.com/apple-lightning-vs-usb-c-3043836/

Some #cpp brigading i see , lol

[quasi mantle]

noises of Tim Cook's whistling kettle intensifies

[mossy nexus]

Why does your library have yellow dotted carpets? 😄

[night grove]

Lol I guess that back structure does kinda look like a book. It's a really crude voxel city. I'm just using a flat base color for the material right now. Planning on making a more sophisticated material some time next week

[trail wedge]

TIL #lounge is #work-in-progress but roasts only 😛

[night grove]

#lounge is life #lounge is love!

[trail wedge]

lol

just watched 2 people's screenshots get roasted back to back is all 🙃

oh I agree was just joking around

[night grove]

I expected mine to be roasted

I posted it because the person that posted the first screenshot seemed inexperienced

I was trying to help them understand we were trying to be constructive and to not take it personally

[trail wedge]

I think my game is coming along pretty good 🙂

[night grove]

ROFL!

[trail wedge]

it's called 🍴

my man Tim works his magic I just tell him where we're gonna drop

I was thinking Mylta Power

yes the virus is spreading

it's breached #cpp

finger masks?

I call them touch stump separators

that was a really quick roll out

congratz

we have so much to learn from these majestic creatures

[night grove]

@ionic flame I've done enough work in mobile to know the old hardware sticks around long enough to be a huge PITA for devs.

The worst is the failure to properly implement standards

Like Bluetooth

Making a Bluetooth based app for Android is hell

[drifting quest]

fun because the term metaverse is from snowcrash

which my nick is from

i wonder that the autor never claimed the rights

[trail wedge]

Nice, def going to do good in the kid demographic

[drifting quest]

snowcrash is a book by neal stephenson

but for sure you all know

[trail wedge]

yes... we all know...

(guys I don't know who that is)

[drifting quest]

ok, its fun that fb just rips it off, its like calling something cyberspace from neuromancer

[trail wedge]

I'm just messing with you, I'm aware of the author and the book; didn't read it so I didn't know your character reference

[drifting quest]

just was an answer to this guy who posted that screen above

[pearl elk]

Meta is actually an ancient greek word, we use it for other words like metaphysics

[trail wedge]

no neal stephenson coined "metaverse"

[pearl elk]

But yeah its crap when a company takes over a word and it loses its original meaning

[trail wedge]

not "meta"

[pearl elk]

The company is called Meta and Ive read Snowcrash

[trail wedge]

I'm aware, just saying krash_ was only claiming neal stephenson coined "metaverse"

everybody knows meta is an ancient greek word

🙃

[pearl elk]

Im just saying theyre not ripping off Stphenson cuz the term metaverse comes from an older word

[trail wedge]

... but he was the first known writer to make that combo

that's all anybody is saying

[pearl elk]

Yes we know you dont have to repeat it

[trail wedge]

nobody is saying anybody is "ripping off Stphenson"

[pearl elk]

Tim Sweeney uses the term all the time too

[trail wedge]

yup

[pearl elk]

yup you can read

[trail wedge]

you sounds like you need a <insert whatever you like to enjoy> and to take a break 🙂

[pearl elk]

Im saying its probably worse Facebook took the term Meta rather than a more specific one like Metaverse

just like Google and Alphabet or Apple and apples 😛

You sound like I need to keep you blocked for adding nothing to the conversion, later

[trail wedge]

not like it does anything, but have fun

[pearl elk]

but anyways as I was trying to get to, meta has some pretty large gaming connotations which might not be impacted with the confusion surrounding a company name

I think like Google it'll just continue to be FB

[trail wedge]

nobody is going to care that FB calls itself meta, people are going to keep using meta as a term for the meta-strategy in games or metadata etc

this is just Comcast -> Xfinifty all over again, the trick never works we know your history FB

[pearl elk]

Meta is nice and ambiguous enough to fly under the radar aye

bit like calling a company TTTTT (thats Trumps family btw)

[trail wedge]

it only works on people who don't care anyway most of the time

[pearl elk]

Aww but my avatar is far more pretty than I am 😛

its a place where I can be my true self... no wait hehe

everyone else is playing kids games while Im playing serial killer 😈

imagine though booting up a game then being confronted with all these angry people with photos of all the NPCs you've killed... their families

[trail wedge]

I feel like you might be a skyrim player

they're always NPC serial killers

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-crying-touched-gif-5381848

[median wraith]

whats going on here

[pearl elk]

trying to roughly guess how many NPCs Ive killed, maybe acouple of million

trying to get enough to become the villain 🙂

[pearl elk]

watch All Hallows Eve 🙂

yup its a movie

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/el_pais/status/1454497073894764547

EL PAÍS (@el_pais)

Imágenes de casas en La Palma casi totalmente sepultadas por la ceniza del volcán https://t.co/VdS0fXG1n4

📷 Emilio Morenatti

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thia looks almost as 3d renders

[left moss]

in hitman 2 there's a mission with a ton of npcs and my friend made his game crash by trowing an explosive at them

[pearl elk]

skynet fights back

[left moss]

https://tenor.com/view/top10-communist-country-right-flag-gif-17284515

someone sent me this

should i take this as a personal attack

[pearl elk]

depends on how nationalist you are 😛

[left moss]

XD

[left moss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdHvpaOB8pc

so this is how this happened

[pearl elk]

the tides of communism sweeping the world

[left moss]

y e s

feel the red rage

[pearl elk]

Mars was made for communism is why Elon wants to get there first an terraform it

[left moss]

why can't i find this meme but "capitalist detected on communist soil"

[left moss]

communism simulator on roblox

pay 5 robux to become lvl 420 soviet master

[pearl elk]

that doesnt sound like communism

government should buy roblox and use it to teach children

[left moss]

lol

[timber viper]

BetterDiscord

https://youtu.be/Mc2A6qmvWj8
I have fallen

[cursive crypt]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-co-founder-wozniak-cant-tell-the-difference-between-i-phone-13-and-previous-phones-211847252.html

[pearl elk]

if Woz was CEO of Apple

[cursive crypt]

Phones with beard 🤔

[quasi mantle]

Apple prods would be repairable if Woz was CEO of Apple

[pearl elk]

Apple Pi

[trail wedge]

I might even like Apple if Woz was in charge from the start

[regal pecan]

It would also be owned by HP

[dense storm]

@trail wedge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6WIt7wvYcc this trailer was done with behaviour trees and sequencer, i did it one week 😛

[trail wedge]

never thought about doing it that way, that's really smart

[dense storm]

yeah and i was new to sequencer back then, and i still hate it

[trail wedge]

it's been on my to look at list for a while, still combing over engine features as I first need them

[dense storm]

Yeah, honestly, if i had more time to spend on it, i could probably learn to like it

[trail wedge]

I was putting it off until I was ready for a Kickstarter trailer, but that's a ways off because I want self hosted MP and SP done before Kickstarting my other mode

and I'm solo so that means last thing kinda

[dense storm]

yeah, solo dev is hard

[trail wedge]

keeping myself on task is hard

🙃

[dense storm]

but then again working in a team can also be frustrating

before i joined Ironward, i was working on my own project

and i found it hard to keep focus

but the best thing i did, was create mini goals, and work towards achieving them

[trail wedge]

yeh been in both situations before, wouldn't mind a team of non-programmer supports down the road

[dense storm]

this gave me motivation

too big of a goal == motivation loss

which is why small tasks are the best way to keep someone motivated

[trail wedge]

I'm working on making detailed tutorials about systems as I learn them, ensuring I put my best code quality forward; and I can use them to train up help later and reuse the code in my main project

[dense storm]

right, one thing i found in my time here on slackers, is the amount of people who spend so long on a single thing, to try to make it as perfect and optimized as they think they can, and 3 months later, they are no further forward 😛

[trail wedge]

lol true

[dense storm]

i make something work, test it, then profile it, and do a refactor if needed

amount of people who are micro optimizing before they have it working is mental

my fav are the "avoid tick" people

those people have no fkin clue

[trail wedge]

I'm not worried about over polishing, I've been doing dev work solo for ~12years in the Gov contract world and had to produce software that would be inspected and had deadlines

[dense storm]

yeah lets run 100 timers to save on tick

(timers run on tick..)

[trail wedge]

people hate me cause I say "depends on what you're doing" all the time 🙂

[dense storm]

its true tho

Use tick, don't abuse tick

is what i say.

[trail wedge]

exactly

[dense storm]

something have to be done on tick

no avoiding

or your game will jitter 😛

[trail wedge]

when I use tick, I just make sure I really should be but I don't go nuts over it

[dense storm]

right, like "do i really need tick to detect if player is close to my monster"

no, i can use a timer and do it at a slower pace

cause im not just checking distance, i am also throwing a trace

for visibilty, etc

not much is gonna change in 1 frame 😛

[trail wedge]

or like, do I only need the tick for a bit and then never again? make a timer for that and then kill it when done

[dense storm]

i optimized a lot of our systems

we turn tick on and off in our health component for example

if health is not regenerating, tick is off, whilst regenerating its on

[trail wedge]

ie for detecting things shortly (but with no event) after BeginPlay

[trail wedge]

yeh makes sense

[dense storm]

same as our abilities, if they are not active, they don't tick

this has the biggest cost savingf

[trail wedge]

right now I'm just doing what works and isn't crazy, I'll optimize when I'm closer to a finished state

[dense storm]

turning off tick when not neded

i saved in total around 3ms game time

[trail wedge]

in GAS right?

[dense storm]

by optimizing tick usage

nah we have our own custom ability system

[trail wedge]

oh ok

[dense storm]

in RS2

tho next game, i want to go GAS

once i convince Zlo 😛

[trail wedge]

I'm using GAS in mine

[dense storm]

thing is when we started

GAS was kinda not documented, and we were only 3 people

we figured it would be easier to make a custom system

[trail wedge]

yeh you contributed to the GASShooter sample right?

[dense storm]

with a smaller learning curve

yeah

i tinker with GAS in my spare time

in personal project

[trail wedge]

I just spent a few weeks slowly de-BPing it to learn from

[dense storm]

which is why i am confident in its usage, and think the next red solstice, could use GAS, and with a good core setup, should be simple for the game designers

[trail wedge]

yeh I really do like its simplicity

[dense storm]

our system works in RS2 tho

but it has limitations

but it does have prediction

[trail wedge]

yeh the thing I replaced from the engine that took forever (because I was new and had to do this first thing) for me was Procedureal/Runtime mesh

mine is way more basic (and faster) but I didn't need the extra features

[dense storm]

like today i put in a way for host to grant an ability to a client and activate it on the client (so root motion sources work)

this fixed the terrible mis predictions 😛

GAS has that by default :/

(kinda)

[trail wedge]

well at least you won't need to do it for the next game if you get your way and use GAS

[dense storm]

I finally got the player controlled mech suits working in RS2, 4 days before the DLC releases with them in 😛

[trail wedge]

ooof

[dense storm]

non possession, and stuff

was a nightmare

we can't use possession due to the way the hero pawn is setup

it breaks things

[trail wedge]

too much functionality tied to that pawn I guess

[dense storm]

well, hero pawn has AI Controller

Observer pawn has the player controller

then the hero is linked to player controller

to allow rpc's

its a bit of a mess.

[trail wedge]

yeh sounds like it but I see why with an overhead game

the hero is just an AI you give waypoints/commands to

[dense storm]

click to move

using navmesh

[trail wedge]

the "player" is a sky camera

[dense storm]

tho that is another thing i did a year or so back

made click to move predicted

so client moves instantly

on navmesh, that was fun

2 days work, and a lot of overriding of CMC/PlayerController/Character 😛

[trail wedge]

CMC is always a joy to work with

[dense storm]

but the results were worth it

client instantly moving just like WASD controls

also handles server sending corrections back

[trail wedge]

nice, responsiveness def matters

[dense storm]

without breaking the move

tho we are a bit lax with the corrections

as we don't need to be so tight with the corrections

[trail wedge]

I figure since things move so much they'll just end up working out anyway

[dense storm]

and its navmesh movement

[trail wedge]

right

[dense storm]

you can't really do things to wrong

WASD on the other hand, is a different thing

we don't have jump, etc

[trail wedge]

yeh that's my problem 😛

(not that I'm having a problem, I mean my game is 1st person and has jump, etc)

[dense storm]

yeah, im working a FPS/TPS game

[trail wedge]

same

[dense storm]

FPS when in combat, TPS when in social spaces

[trail wedge]

FPS/TPS is just optional in mine, might make PVP arena FPS only tho

[dense storm]

i have a complex camera system

which i may release as a plugin

[trail wedge]

that's what I keep doing with my code, making it generic and contemplating plugin releases

[dense storm]

its all done using the PCM

thats the issue

pawn has no camera component/spring arm

the PCM handles it all

[trail wedge]

where's the issue in that? maybe I'm not understanding

[dense storm]

well, it means they would have to use my custom PCM

and people hate that :/

they prefer it when its components

they can add easily

but yeah, it uses BP's based on UKaosCameraMode, and these get pushed/pulled from a stack inside the PCM, and can handle TPS -> FPS and vice versa nicely, its pretty sweet 🙂

[trail wedge]

Ture, I just spent a bit making a simple chat component plugin; hardest part was storing the InputMode to restore it after chat

Since I only had a component and not a custom controller, I had no access to the private InputMode member

had to make a whole bunch of stuff but got it working

but kept it all component based

[dense storm]

also can adjust the camera based on the equipped weapon/item, or if they are in a vehicle etc

which makes it really nice

just by pushing a class into the stack

[trail wedge]

that's pretty cool, using a TQueue behind the scenes?

[dense storm]

no, cause they stay on the stack till they are removed

[trail wedge]

oh gotcha

[dense storm]

so i can have say 3 on the stack

remove the last one added, and it will blend to number 2

remove that, will blend to number 1

[trail wedge]

ok so it will follow reverse order back up the chain makes total sense now

[dense storm]

which handles things nicely, but can cause issues if you forget to pop your camera mode of the stack

[trail wedge]

right

well it's just like bindings, you need to remember to clean them up

[dense storm]

you could end up in a complete wrong camera mode 😛

and that could be game breaking

Shooting a gun from a vehicle driving camera

might not be desirable.

[trail wedge]

challenge mode activated

[cursive crypt]

#cpp

[trail wedge]

#cpp ?

[quasi mantle]

#cpp !

[broken sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/unamused-viralhog-oh-really-not-pleased-unhappy-gif-17281286

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/spike-funny-animals-monkey-grumpy-not-impressed-gif-10938327

[fathom wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/the-crow-brandon-lee-scary-smile-boo-gif-12575676

[median wraith]

Is there any way to see the godrays without look directly to the sun ?

[timber viper]

if thats not a RL and UE question afaik answer is no btw

[median wraith]

It's funny that VT are calculated and loaded in the GPU

but are slower to load/display than CPU+GPU combo

[quasi mantle]

Make sure it's a foggy day outside, or dusty inside.

God rays are basically a thicc bunch of vapour dispersing lights on its way

[cursive crypt]

It is interesting tho. It stamps on your retina, so you see spots for minutes after that.

[quasi mantle]

Terminator: The Face Book

[quasi mantle]

Heard that Mark Zuckerberg got into bloody accident with a Galaxy Note 7, so much so that they replaced him with a sentient android robot

[pearl elk]

Im not convinced he was ever human, I bet he was a robot made by the creator of Napster

to saggy infinity and beyond

He might be from the same planet as Gabe and Elon then 😛

they all have 4 letter first names.... Half-life 4 confirmed

[carmine frigate]

looks like he did his own tie 🙂

[median wraith]

Man Advanced warfare is really fooked in PC

random crash, random no save points, it takes 10min to load despite is a SSD it don't loads at more than 5mbs

[cursive crypt]

How is the GI tho

[pearl elk]

I prefer the sequel Robot Advanced Warfare

cant believe how expensive games are these days

I remember getting The Orange Box for $30

[red pewter]

yeah $80CAD for every game is so brutal

it's a fair conversion but it still feels awful

[pearl elk]

AoE4 is $100AUD

Im totally for them making money but it feels abit stingy, like I can definitely feel my money not stretching as far as it used to.

[cursive crypt]

Inflation is real.

[median wraith]

seems okay

[pearl elk]

Its not just that though, for instance Nazi Zombie Army Trilogy -> Strange Brigade -> Nazi Zombie Army 4 there is a definite trend towards locking previously free content behind Season Pass and DLC.

[median wraith]

you cannot even change the FOV in this game

such an awesome PC port

for a 2017 game ? or what year is this

[pearl elk]

one of the top comments on the Steam store page for Advanced Warfare is how bad a port it is 😛

[median wraith]

do someone knows the difference between the Epic GPU Lightmass and the LUOSHUANG’S GPULIGHTMASS ?

isn't made by the same dude both ?

XD

[pearl elk]

it has more mass

[median wraith]

Maybe I should have picked a pack they gave for Unity with a GPU lightbaker etc

not sure what Unity is doing with their engine

aside of destroy it

[pearl elk]

Unity is the engine of kings

https://tenor.com/view/zach-galifianakis-zach-risa-hide-laugh-hiding-laughter-laugh-gif-11740493

[median wraith]

https://github.com/irobot/UnrealEngine/commit/e4132d59c6be22affbd7296907f75c2b593c8e7d 🤔

[cursive crypt]

One has more Mass, the other more GPU

[cursive crypt]

There were two proj of his, latest & greatest moved to UE, the other was left in the community hands.

He sometimes shows up around, so you can ask too I guess.

[quasi mantle]

Last time I checked, the "lightmass" got rejected by Unity because of using external .exe, akin to Swarm.

[median wraith]

Well the one I mean is on their marketplace

Humble Bundle had it on a pack

[red pewter]

Excuse you! Mass is our god given ECS framework built by the AI team

I will forgive you this time...

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-you-say-whats-that-again-sorry-i-didnt-hear-you-donald-trump-gif-13789666

[pearl elk]

its funny youtube compression is looking really bad cuz Im so used to crisp real-time rendered pixels 😛

[carmine frigate]

4k 244 hrz 😛

try record that

[pearl elk]

I suppose theres some nature channel on YT which might have that sort of res but it'll still be compressed

blacks in particular though just get slaughtered

lol umm, I mean the tone

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-mercury-queen-too-late-gif-5807379

[pearl elk]

my time has come

I was just looking up best looking Unity games on YT and noticed how junk all the graphics were because of the compression

unless its something like JPG where people are taking compressed video and recompressing it

camera footage seems to come out better than screen captured though

[red pewter]

honestly Tarkov looks so great

I love the lighting on the items

people think realistic games have no style and that is false

[pearl elk]

the audio seems pretty amazing in that game too

[median wraith]

by Looks so great you talk about graphics ?

[red pewter]

I guess?

the UI is pretty too

[median wraith]

well they somehow managed to make the illumination in unity to have about the same features of Cryengine V

so in that side for realtime light I bet is fine

the problem with that game

is too demanding

but there is a fact that for some reason the people thinks super dark shadows equals to quality

ala Hollywood way

[red pewter]

as for performance I have no idea

I just think it looks pretty from what I watched

the items all have this kind of secondary glowish effect to them at least in the menus

it makes them look almost painterly

[median wraith]

Like if you guys see the world this dark take an appointment with the doctor

@red pewter so you didn't played yourself ?

[soft night]

when you think premium got better pixels

on youtube

[red pewter]

my heart can't take that game lol

[median wraith]

oh gotcha

yeah the light overall isn't bad

but the PBR isn't good

about the rest the gameplay and the general graphics are nice

Darker shadows makes it perfect for horror and dark ambiented games and this both are

just like Dying Light its

Now I think this is wrong ?

On real vision when everything looks brighter isn't like the shadows actually looks darker ?

🤔

[red pewter]

video game auto exposure was a mistake

[pearl elk]

turn on your monitors auto brightness controls and you have a winning scenario when auto exposure kicks in 😛

[quasi mantle]

Damn boi, look at them le HDR Lighting

[median wraith]

lol

this game don't even have HDR it seems

[quasi mantle]

Also what SDR monitor thinks HDR monitor looks like, due to out of range colours by 2 bits.

[pearl elk]

Hevedy Dynamic Radiosity

[quasi mantle]

Looks like it stems from shitty tonemapper.

[pearl elk]

I think this is the mistake though, real vision is eyes not a camera but its less "cinematic"

[median wraith]

na is their Voxel GI thing

[pearl elk]

if you walk from light to dark it is actually quite dark so there is some sort of eye adaptation but it takes major contrasts unlike games which every little minor contrast triggers eye adaptation

If you go out in the desert in summer and take a photo its far cooler than your actual vision is, those photos become the reference though not the real experience. Maybe everyone game character wears sunglasses 😛

https://tenor.com/view/putting-on-sunglasses-guy-ryan-reynolds-free-guy-cool-gif-22851765

[quasi mantle]

In GTA V's first person view, the sunglasses tint actually fades out over time.

[median wraith]

"C++
Visual Studio 2022 will include robust support for the C++ workload with new productivity features, C++20 tooling, and IntelliSense. New C++20 language features will simplify managing large codebases and improved diagnostics will make the tough problems easier to debug with templates and concepts.

We’re also integrating support for CMake, Linux, and WSL to make it easier for you to create, edit, build, and debug cross-platform apps. If you want to upgrade to Visual Studio 2022 but are worried about compatibility, binary compatibility with the C++ runtime will make it painless."

yeah let's see if this help in anything with UE

[obtuse glacier]

is that HUNT: Showdown?

cuz it looks like it

[median wraith]

yeah it is

[obtuse glacier]

i see

[pearl elk]

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/cppblog/18x-faster-intellisense-for-unreal-engine-projects-in-visual-studio-2022/

[obtuse glacier]

maybe 1 day ill learn Cryengine

maybe on the next project

[pearl elk]

seems to be, I got the community preview installed but it did nothing to help my UE5.0EA compile issue 😛

[median wraith]

no you don't need

Still don't think Epic adds support to 4.27 ?

[obtuse glacier]

no

i just want to learn it

[median wraith]

not sure how they added support to it

[obtuse glacier]

also wdym support

[zinc matrix]

i still dont know after years what i enjoy. modelling? no. coding? no.... sound design? no...

[deep glen]

maybe its the self-torment and self-masochisms you are enjoying :p

[obtuse glacier]

you know what they say

no pain no gain

[drifting quest]

you're right about it, meta should not be available for a company name at all, the only name that fits there is epic, because epic is epic!

[pearl elk]

someone actually made a good comment about the fact meta is part of html too

I think I might call my company Facts 😛

[zinc matrix]

wrong. ifu do something u dont enjoy, stop doing it.

[obtuse glacier]

true enough

but then again overcoming obstacles is the fun of it

basically thats what i thought pain means

just overcoming obstacles

[deep glen]

if you always drop anything you dont enjoy I doubt you'll really succeed in anything either

[pearl elk]

you know what they say though, never do a bad job well

[left moss]

lol

[drifting quest]

lol 😂 anyway time for wrk, ltrs

[pearl elk]

https://puu.sh/Im1Gv/1ee5086ad0.jpg

[left moss]

we are back in year 1420

[cursive crypt]

It's fake, we are not yet 2022.