Sounds like a bunch of gibberish ๐
#lounge
broken sigil
turbid spindleBOT
:no_entry_sign: Michael_Jr#8840 was banned.
quasi mantle
NGL, the new Unreal Engine channel's Presentation intros are quite catchy lol
timber viper
Same ๐
drifting quest
ok i dont post gifs realyl mainly i bother ppl on cpp haha
really great here i love it
drifting quest
what are you doing with unreal?
timber viper
Developing a top-down shooter with a team of beginners
timber viper
I'm alone at coding side, its fine ๐
They're helping me with level-design and 3D modelling stuff
timber viper
what are you doing with unreal?
And you?
timber viper
micromanagement simulation
whats that?
timber viper
I'm lucky I'm developing a game in this era though
timber viper
Even I'm not experienced enough, I have a lot of experienced people helping me along the way ๐
drifting quest
haha
drifting quest
Even I'm not experienced enough, I have a lot of experienced people helping me a...
you work with blueprints only or cpp as well?
timber viper
%95 C++
drifting quest
ah nice yeah me too
drifting quest
@timber viper but do topdownshooter sell good?
timber viper
Most of them doesn't
But to be realistic, that's only category I can develop a game without tons of budget
Lately The Ascent had a great success on top down category
But they had a very big amount of budget compared to many indies, and they had a great publisher
drifting quest
yeah but its really good produced
timber viper
Their art them was on stellar ๐
drifting quest
yeah
today i played darkest dungeon 2
yeah well dont know top down shooter really
timber viper
Alienation (PS only), Alien Swarm, Space Punks (early access) is some of them
Our game design is more similar to Alienation, pure arcade
drifting quest
ok, well i dont know the topdown shooter genre really
what do you do different?
i love gamedesign as well
timber viper
I'm currently testing DOOM method for my enemies
It will be first doom-like top down shooter
drifting quest
i dont know what the doom method means
timber viper
In DOOM every enemy has its own weak point and it's wise to use correct weapon based on the enemy you're facing
Also ammo management and weapon switching is key to stay alive
Some ranged enemies can be killed with shotgun easily so you don't (cant/shouldnt) waste rifle ammo, so you also need to move to kill enemies
timber viper
drifting quest
stealth would also be great
timber viper
stealth would also be great
Maybe with another type of game, yeah. Top down games go well with stealth
Mine is just action, endless enemy waves and almost-linear proceeding
drifting quest
and you could put a little rpg and balancing
in the concept
like buffs
perks
not only weapons
timber viper
Yep, you mean kind of character progression right?
drifting quest
that and stuff like clothing, items and so on
i think its easy to implement but really fun
to play
and you could take a cool narator
that tells a story
timber viper
Yeah, its also included. Theme of the game is kind of "bounty hunting" anyway, you kill to earn more precious items
drifting quest
i mean they are cheap
but adds lots of cool emotion
just take some old actor or so
timber viper
But I don't know, even though I developed this project for too long, I still feel like I'm still at the beginning stage. I'm only familiar with coding and unreal engine, so still couldn't add some visuals or actual gameplay yet because of that
I have 4 players multiplayer working, horde mechanic, well developed AIs, tons of optimizations etc
All waiting for a nice designer to put things together ๐
drifting quest
how long do you work on it now
timber viper
Almost one year, but I iterated some game-design ideas on same project for multiple times
drifting quest
dont think thats long?
timber viper
No
It was my fault at the beginning, I was not aware game design was a thing
I tried to make something like CoD Zombies but top down shooter
drifting quest
i know about gamedesign
timber viper
Which was not fun to play ๐
drifting quest
if you have questions
i think gamedesign is all
i mean it makes a game fun or fail?
ah i see
yeah well
timber viper
Its a beast eating me alive ๐
drifting quest
is there a video on youtube of the prototype?
timber viper
I can send you a GIF from DM
timber viper
Thanks, I really value feedbacks because I'm ultimately anxious about if the game is fun or not ๐
drifting quest
that combat looks really fun for sure
timber viper
Thanks
drifting quest
are you clear about the setting already? i would also provide a good story that makes the player want to know more and more
timber viper
If you want we can continue on DM's, I would like to listen your ideas
quasi mantle
Gotta take some nanomachine vaccine bois
Lets goooo
thorny dock
Complete opposite here, neither shot gave me anything other then a sore arm, same for most in my circle
pearl compass
had zero reaction. pfizer 2x.
broken sigil
About to get my first shot in the coming days
Thanks,
about to get my dose of nanobots and 5g receivers ๐
broken sigil
They won't give me powers like in Crysis?
I was expecting at least the invisibility
๐
These days it's better not to even look at comments on facebook, it's full of FB scientists
I regret even opening it every time
quasi mantle
Or maybe having the ability to kill a bunch of amphibian Metal Gears in no time
SSB? Super Smash Bros?
bronze axle
Vaccine overload.
broken sigil
๐
pearl elk
cursive crypt
https://tenor.com/view/this-is-lounge-lounge-gun-firing-gif-17543789
Game physics I take it.
serene urchin
is youtuber Unreal Sensei a member here? His channel is just mindblowing to me. Why create a +4 hour long video course as single video when you could release it as 20 min individual videos over a 2 month period and get 10x the number of views?
It's almost like a parallel universe faeries and garden gnomes exist ๐
quasi mantle
is youtuber Unreal Sensei a member here? His channel is just mindblowing to me. ...
Probably not, but I personally prefer divided into parts, just like the official courses.
carmine frigate
I watched a youtube tut once, and he was getting loads of errors after play due too non valids
but it was fine cuz it didnt impact performance ๐
i told him you can do valid checks , so his code should be flawless now ๐
fathom wadi
I watched a fail video and I told them how not to fail. Now they fail upwards.
cursive crypt
I watched one a yt video and I failed.
fathom wadi
I watched one a yt video and I failed.
I made the mistake of clicking a MGTOW video earlier. Those are some absolutely awful videos. Misogeny and insanity rolled into one. Its kind of sad some guys actually get sucked into that bs
cursive crypt
Duh, for a moment I thought you are talking about Magic the Gathering cards.
However, yeah, that and few similar branches are kinda pop nowadays. As always there is some truth, but the rest is just zodiac for men and kinda simping on alphas. Sincerely, zeta.
median wraith
https://tenor.com/view/tube-fuck-it-gif-14847882
still don't know how that moves the fish by suction ?
zinc matrix
So whats better in Godot than unrealengine?
carmine frigate
its full free
ancient ingot
can it even be compared to UE though, a bit of an unfair comparison to make ?
ancient ingot
can i just say how stupid it is that i have to tell the compiler that Deltatime is a float ๐ก
soft night
you just need to tell it
ancient ingot
hmm ok fair point
soft night
what if the deltatime is double
ancient ingot
then we screwed
foggy path
Not sure if you'd need double precision on deltatime
It would have to run at a ridiculously high framerate for that to make any difference
ancient ingot
i dunno, it just feels like im telling it something it should already know ... meh
foggy path
what is deltatime in quantum computing
is it a probability that tells you how likely it was your frame took a certain amount of time?
ancient ingot
in QC .. err.. pico second?
foggy path
your frame was both computed and not computed and also computed and not computed at the same time
ancient ingot
lol yeah .. i think they gonna ditch deltatime for that one
soft night
TensorFloat
foggy path
it's not really super practical unless you need it for some specific purpose like programming some small embedded device
or if you need to debug C++ disassembly for some reason I guess
soft night
well quantum computers help analyze all data at once so sure
zinc matrix
can quantum computers also be used for video games, game engines, video editing etc?
or just bland math calculations?
ancient ingot
i think right now its just math and scientific simulations, like mapping the universe, dark energy etc
zinc matrix
im not talking about the price
can we do everything on a quantum cpu which we can do on normal cpus?
ancient ingot
nope, i dunno why, its out of my depth but theres a reason for it
Because quantum computers can access superposition states, they can perform partial versions of standard logic gates. We can, for example, make them do half of a NOT. Applying this to a qubit in a 0 state moves it into a superposition halfway between 0 and 1. If we run this operation many times, measuring the qubit each time to extract an output, weโll find that 0 and 1 come out with equal probability.
that's really cool, can we have a Half Not boolean node in BP Pls ๐
soft night
well quantum computing have QPU
ancient ingot
qubit ftw!
pearl elk
quantums are great for holography
zinc matrix
quantums are great for holography
?
ancient ingot
lol
ancient ingot
that guy rocked
foggy path
someone needs to deepfake George Costanza as the EMH
fluid bloom
I've been thinking of binging star treks on netflix since I never really watched the show when it was on TV
should I just go with chronological airing date order? ๐ค
foggy path
How much of a star trek fan are you
I would suggest starting with Deep Space 9 if you're only a sort of a casual fan, I'd say it's generally the series which has the most consistent quality to it
or The Next Generation
The Original Series is alright I guess but it's low budget and such :D
ancient ingot
Voyager ftw !!
foggy path
TNG, DS9 and Voyager have a little bit of story and character overlap, but not really anything critical you'd miss if you didn't watch them in order
quasi mantle
If you want to make an Amiga/DOS demo, then yes.
Or pre 5th gen console homebrew programming, which don't left much room for higher level languages, unless you want to write your own C compiler for 16-bit console.
fluid bloom
I can't say I'm a fan of star trek ๐
foggy path
Yeah I'd say DS9 is probably a decent one to start with
TNG starts a bit weird, the pilot episode is really wacky, and the first season is maybe a bit all over the place... but if you don't mind it being a bit weird it's definitely a good show overall
zinc matrix
what do i get if i boost this server lmao
cursive crypt
I would stop on pink name, the rest is earned.
pearl elk
save the boost for ya car
cursive crypt
True, oil prices are up.
pearl elk
Did you check you actually got the badge?
lol yeah I see what you mean, I got the same email even though I got the badges
dim remnant
I once waited 5 hours to transfer 50MB of data through serial cables..
I guess my dad was worse off, with hole-cards..
Maybe we are spoiled, maybe we are in the stoneage.
pearl elk
least you didnt have to rewind punch cards
ancient ingot
๐คฃ
pearl elk
ahh dashcams, such an endless source of entertainment
ocean parcel
sometimes i feel like i find it difficult to carry my own body
carmine frigate
pearl elk
oh wow lol I made it so any impact destroys the bricks so you can push through walls
median wraith
if you do:
x = 10;
y = x++%5;
y is equal to 0 or 1
๐ค
mmm I just checked a doc and actually says is the inverse but is java
liek
if you do
x = 10;
y = x++; is
x = 11 and y = 10;
but
x = 10;
y = ++x; is
x = 11 and y = 11
๐ค
yeah idk if apply to C++, it does actually stranger things, also C# have other way
Hows that possible
actually I think there is some programming langs that differ but no idea which
pearl elk
moduyolo
gusty mica
The worst use of this behaviour is the "goes to" operator --> (that isn't really an operator). It's just a -- followed by a > but some people use it when looping through things to show the loop variable is heading towards 0 like:
int ArrayIdx = Array.Num();
while (ArrayIdx --> 0)
{
DoThing(Array[ArrayIdx]);
}
obtuse glacier
hey does anyone use blender?
im making an animation and my blender keeps getting like 11 fps
obtuse glacier
1 model with the height of 150cm an lmg
And a big plane
All are untextured
No
Its just 2 models
For poly count i didnt checked it
I did try turning on simplify
Didn't work
Im currently in a car sooo
Cant check it rn
Sry
thorny dock
I love how there is a slight bend on the rear thruster as if to say โdonโt worry, weโve done the math and this will definitely propel you faster in the direction you are facingโ
cursive crypt
http://thegames.dev/snaps/FarCry6_DQiUUnlMNh.png
fc6? Physics always being tricky, with a lot of cheating.
hm... that weapon bugs me a bit.
median wraith
cuz wasn't my hour
I love the last iphone ad in youtube
the dude drives a mediocre bike but have an iphone
fluid bloom
lovely weather that we have here right now https://www.reddit.com/gallery/qhic81
median wraith
@fluid bloom we got all the light to ours
na it looks from a dude in italy or something else
median wraith
na here is a common actually
burnt lake
median wraith
seems like every person that isn't rich but pretend to be cool get one
foggy path
"pretend to be cool"?
so you can't get an iphone because you happen to like iphones? :P
burnt lake
people still buying iphones?
median wraith
"The normal phones don't last long" - AKA 300โฌ phone that they use for 5 years
So them get a 1200โฌ iPhone that by 4 years is outdated but they have to use it another 4 years with the screen broken etc
What's that 900โฌ more for 2 years of use extra
@foggy path yeah all the cool kids at marketing get one
foggy path
Yeah probably because unlike android phones they're actually nice to use :P
I got an iPhone 12 recently and it was like 450 eur so saying they cost 1200 eur doesn't make a whole lot of sense
foggy path
Yeah the highest spec 13 Max?
median wraith
not sure
foggy path
You can get the 13 Mini for 800 eur looks like which is certainly more than what I paid for the 12 but I'm pretty sure if you want an equally specced android phone you'll pay the same
and you'll still be stuck with android's worse UX
pearl elk
tbh theyre all crap
foggy path
guess you guys pay a bit more for it for some reason
foggy path
well there you go lol
pearl elk
I hate having to baby sit my phone, I wanted a smart phone not a child who needs permission to do everything ๐
foggy path
who needs more than 128 gigs in a phone anyway ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
burnt lake
who buys iphones at launch?
foggy path
I bought an iPhone 4 when it launched for about 400 lol
imagine iPhones being that cheap at launch!
median wraith
I mean the iPhone 12 isn't new and is here for 900โฌ
burnt lake
lawl
median wraith
and the pro still 1300โฌ
foggy path
If someone wants to pay 1300 for an iphone pro then good for them I guess
I don't really see a problem there
median wraith
na I just mean the people with a 1000โฌ income get these to pretend to be cool
foggy path
how do you know? have you asked many of them recently if they bought it to look cool?
the iphone is the only phone where people have this weird idea that others buy them for fun just to look cool and no other reason...
I have no freaking idea why because iphones are not particularly cool :P
foggy path
lol
median wraith
RANK UP
pearl elk
trust me that apple logo in a mirror selfie is pure status
foggy path
I guess if they actually said that then who knows
I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to own something nice
burnt lake
trust me that apple logo in a mirror selfie is pure status
5head intentional apple design
pearl elk
Apple is all about that product placement
burnt lake
that has to be intentional right? because at launch iphones where really rare and expensive so if you wanted to show off you would use the front camera in the mirror right?
median wraith
pretend in this country is a key sadly @foggy path
pearl elk
thats why phone manufacturers come up with unique camera lense placements too so you can tell which phone it is easily
foggy path
I dunno, if someone wants to own an iphone because they think it's nice and makes them look good then that seems fine to me
pearl elk
its got very little to do with "goodness" and all about having the largest cash reserves on the planet
median wraith
Literally the last week someone made fun cuz I wear clothes ala Tim Sweeney programmer style, and was like Hey you have work and that as programmer why don't get better clothes?
foggy path
Sounds like he's just an asshole
burnt lake
yeah thats why we have all these ridiculous amounts of cameras and placements.
foggy path
:P
you have to be pretty obsessed with iphones if you can tell it's an iphone based on how the cameras are arranged lol
it'll take a week for a chinese company to rearrange their android phone's cameras to match it lol
pearl elk
everyone knows, they make up a huge portion of the global market
I bet a starving kid on Africa can tell a Samsung from an Apple
foggy path
okay without googling it tell me what the arrangement on iphone cameras is
pearl elk
which iphone?
foggy path
any of them I guess
median wraith
anyway all the phones cost a lot now, isn't like the new Pixel cost the same of the iPhone ?
burnt lake
you have to be pretty obsessed with iphones if you can tell it's an iphone based...
All of them yes but we all know what this one is from
median wraith
and technically is a better deal than a GPU cuz cost less and you can do phone calls
pearl elk
they arnt all the same
foggy path
@burnt lake I haven't the slightest clue
pearl elk
move the camera update the software, new phone
foggy path
I'm still waiting for you to tell me how they're arranged on one of them lol
soft night
foggy path
I have a vague idea how they're arranged on the 12 but I wouldn't know
there's nothing that says there's literally no other phones which have the same arrangement
foggy path
yeah there's like a gazillion android phones with a notch
pearl elk
not in the middle
foggy path
Honor and Google both have phones with a notch in the middle
probably more but those two came up on google pretty quick lol
pearl elk
the new Pixel you mean
foggy path
I have no idea which one is the new, Pixel 3 has a notch at least
soft night
but have screen ontop
median wraith
now the cameres come with strange things made by the AI
foggy path
Pixel 4 definitely looks like you could mistake it for an iphone from the back based on the camera arrangement
pearl elk
it makes sense for people to copy Apple though, its a fashion
soft night
HevAI the best AI for your hevsuit
pearl elk
now theyre getting all upset other companies are trying to cut into their bluetooth headphone business
median wraith
so your aunt can upload photos to Facebook and pretend she have 25 edited by the camera
pearl elk
even though they set the trend of no plugs
burnt lake
idk it might be repetition but you can just tell if something is apple.
foggy path
Yeah but you said that you can recognize apple by just the cameras and obviously if others copy them you cannot :P
pearl elk
the big Apple logo aint a give away
try Googling apple see if you get a fruit or a company
foggy path
also I just looked at how the cameras are arranged on my iphone 12 and I remembered it wrong 
burnt lake
it might be the colored lens thingy and the rounded edges.
median wraith
Tbh I thought the 2010 to 2020 hardware generation didn't evolve at all and was kinda hacky, but this new gen is even worst
like all the new consoles do false rescalings, the phone use AI to fix mediocre cameras etc
pearl elk
kids can tell you what model of iPhone you got but cant tell you what brand apple youre eating ๐
foggy path
people who complain about apple are the same people who tell me I'm stupid because I drive a Mercedes when a Toyota is much cheaper
median wraith
even the GPUs come with AI to fix their power
pearl elk
Mercedes are actually a really bad company
you should look up consumer issues before buying
cursive crypt
Phone's camera are not good.
burnt lake
ok i just googled the google phone, what in the living is this?
median wraith
that Pixel 6
burnt lake
actual amongus
foggy path
Oh yeah I'm sure Mercedes is involved in child labor or something
median wraith
isn't that 1300โฌ ?
burnt lake
https://tenor.com/view/old-phone-rotary-dial-telephone-gif-16838653
new phone design
cursive crypt
Mercedes as like in the cars?
fathom wadi
yeah retro
pearl elk
Oh yeah I'm sure Mercedes is involved in child labor or something
well Apple were yet you still own one so its obviously a seller for you
cursive crypt
Hmm... let me dig out something.
fathom wadi
Apple still are because they are evil
pearl elk
not that Google are better but I dont have much choice when it comes to phone OS'
foggy path
Yeah have you checked that none of the companies whose products you own aren't involved in that? Or involved in the rare earths mining?
:P
median wraith
@foggy path the cars is another topic, look at all this techs we got now on cars that come with a integrated phone from 2009 memory speed, using techs mercedes did in 1995
+10k to the cost
fathom wadi
Microsoft have used child labour too. So has Google. The thing is, the world is ran by corporate psychopaths and we still buy their shit
pearl elk
its not just child labour, my mums husband is a miner
soft night
cryptominer?
foggy path
it's so ridiculously hypocritical to be like "oh yeah I bet you buy child labor products" lol
burnt lake
pearl elk
the westerners are paid like 10x more for the same job as locals
pearl elk
it's so ridiculously hypocritical to be like "oh yeah I bet you buy child labor ...
I dont
not knowingly
foggy path
You probably should not be using a computer then
If you don't want products involved in morally dubious supply chains
median wraith
thanks the rest of the companies just fight for our rights and are saving the planet
pearl elk
we know Apple does yet here you are saying how much better their UX is
foggy path
Sell all your electronic devices and then come back
burnt lake
only use morally correct child labour
fathom wadi
you can't shame someone for buying products made using child labour. It's wasted energy when you should be sending envelopes full of turds to the corporate whores who do it
foggy path
Oh so you're saying that Apple's UX is worse because of their morally dubious supply chain issues?
carmine frigate
@foggy path you also have to sell all ur clothes ๐
foggy path
I weave my own
carmine frigate
are u a child?
foggy path
Not the last time I checked
burnt lake
same i make my own phone by hand
fathom wadi
I print disposable nike trainers.
foggy path
Mentally maybe
carmine frigate
ahh ok ๐
pearl elk
so yeah being ignorant isnt a free pass I guess
I personally think most UX sucks ass, pick a company
theyre all shit
even Epic ๐
soft night
MonsyUX is the more superior?
median wraith
A lot of people switch from UE4 to Godot cuz now Epic support ""NF..."" also Unity does
Let's save the planet using Discord and keep playing WOW
fathom wadi
I think unless a UX is specifically preventing someone from using the focal tasks, they are all ok. But we have an industry of people who pick holes in UX to get paid so there is also a pretentious nature to UX observation.
soft night
hevedy: does that change adobe usage too?
pearl elk
get paid... are you kidding. Thats not how companies make money
foggy path
there's a difference between "ok" and "pleasant" though which some people seem to think is frivolous
fathom wadi
yeah of course. Especially in aesthetic design like in game dev where they are all the same structure but with different pictures
burnt lake
based
soft night
Adobe help creators to get paid with NFT was announced on Adobe Max
foggy path
I think most people who criticize apple or other brands which are seen as luxury because of their price don't actually understand why people buy luxury products... or are just jealous because they're too cheap to buy them themselves :p
vivid crystal
I do want the iPhone X because of the camera
pearl elk
I own a $1800 S10+, well when it was new
median wraith
hevedy: does that change adobe usage too?
well I have no idea hows Adobe doing this days
burnt lake
adobe bought blender
pearl elk
tbh it was a huge waste of money, I bought it mainly for a new battery
burnt lake
i think
fathom wadi
Apple is a cult. Like Ikea or Nike or other brands. Mass hysteria fashion based needs. But that doesn't mean Apple isn't good at what it does with the UX. It's smooth and ordered. But I see it no different than my android phone. My wife had Apple for years, when she switched to Galaxy phones she preferred it. But it took her years to make that switch because she was comfortable in the cult of Apple.
pearl elk
in terms of investment GPU is far better for me than smart phones have been, phones are great for socialising not the best for business in my experience
soft night
people got that cloth cleaning thing so its sold out to next year
burnt lake
nm i know the did something together with blender
pearl elk
If the phone could actually do smart things without my intervention
burnt lake
adobe would try buy blender
carmine frigate
blender cant be bought
fathom wadi
If someone made a phone that looked exactly like an Apple, with the same UX, for 1/10th of the price, I bet you a dime to a dollar that Apple users wouldn't switch.
foggy path
Probably not because there's gotta be something that's wrong with it if it was 1/10 of the price lol
burnt lake
blender cant be bought
adobe would try tho
fathom wadi
its a hypothetical but I stand by it. People have their life on their phone. Switching it up is a big move.
carmine frigate
you are allowed to sell blender tho
soft night
i changed from iphone to windows phone
pearl elk
I dunno New Balance are entirely fine if you compare to Adidas or Nike, yet they are easy half the price in alot of cases
soft night
back in the day when livetiles came
foggy path
Assuming switching to the hypothesisphone was a cinch I don't think people would be opposed to switching to it
pearl elk
its like comparing a $10 coffee to a $3, perceived value even if its exactly the same coffee. You ask people and they will say the $10 one is better
foggy path
Of course there are people who are obsessed with certain brands but they're a different story lol
fathom wadi
The majority may based on income, but there are those who wouldn't if they could afford the Apple. The kind of people who would queue up for a new phone launch overnight.
foggy path
a person who queues for a phone overnight is in some level obsessed with it so I don't think using those people as an example is very fair
fathom wadi
I queued up for GTA5 for my wife when it first released. Thats about my limit on queues
fathom wadi
the kind of pleb who makes a video of his journey ๐
carmine frigate
i think it was the gtaV launch here or something there were like 500ppl waitin in front of a store.. they open and they just steal everything
IRL GTA
vivid crystal
The smart one stayed at home and downloaded the game
pearl elk
I actually get excited when I see someone on instagram using an older phone... like woot real h00mans exist
pearl elk
unboxing my new sponsored materials
fathom wadi
the night it released I had just been to see Roger Waters perform The Wall in concert. My wife bought me the ticket so I returned the favour. So I get to the Gamestop and there is a queue around the block. I get to the end of the queue and notice the indie game store next door is open. I hadn't pre-ordered so I asked the person near me in the queue "Is this the queue for Gamestop?" and they said yes. So I walked right into the indie store, which was empty because all the mooks preordered from GStop. Slammed my money on the counter and bought a copy. Then walked out of the store, GTA5 in hand, past the entire queue and strutted like Bart Simpson. It was fkin legendary.
pearl elk
Too bad you'll need a walking frame for GTA 6's release
foggy path
you can just have your sex robot go and pick it up for you
fathom wadi
its gonna be awful anyway I bet. No Dan Hauser. Priority in GaaS. No expansions. It wouldn't surprise me if they added nothing over GTA5 and basically did a Vice City reboot.
pearl elk
theyre doing the GTA Trilogy remaster
fathom wadi
remaster is a bit of a leap. more like a rehash
foggy path
and it's basically just a reskin which looks like a fan effort
pearl elk
probably because its cheaper than a reboot
fathom wadi
its worse than the fan efforts that they shut down
foggy path
they turned the characters into cartoons lol
fathom wadi
did you see the Vice City reboot mod? It was way better looking
pearl elk
I actually enjoyed Mafia 3's setting, its a shame there are some fundamental gameplay and performance issues
foggy path
I played through it, it was okay
fathom wadi
I played GTA5 on PC with a mod to spruce it up a bit. I could only use it offline so when I uninstalled it to go online it looked like last gen ๐
pearl elk
tbh if I were to do a GTA it would be set in London bout the same time as Peaky Blinders
fathom wadi
Peaky Blinders is birmingham tho
pearl elk
true but you get the gist, cuz there was a GTA London game
I like that razor gang era before the Italian mafia really got huge in NY
fathom wadi
yeah it wasn't well received but it was the old GTA game. I've wanted to see an updated GTA london fora while but we have Watchdogs which nailed the scenery
pearl elk
my favourite was GTA 2 because I liked how it wasnt linear you could choose rather than being locked into a linear storyline
fathom wadi
san andreas was my fave. I loved the gang wars. They should have expanded on that gameplay
pearl elk
Watchdogs Legion has a great setting thats true, but the car physics are shockingly bad
SA had the over the shoulder cam too for combat, that was great
I did like the bit where you own the car dealership in SA, that was the best part of GTA Vice City how they added that Monopoly element of owning properties and collecting rent
fathom wadi
yeah there was so much taken away from the game over the years that should have stayed. GTA5 felt like it was in a state of regression. The online game is absolutely mindnumbing too. I dont understand how they make money from it except to fool a few people who understand the game doesn't want you to make money in any reasonable time. Even though you need it.
pearl elk
I stopped playing with GTA 4 because I thought the ragdoll and the car physics was the wrong direction
fathom wadi
yeah gta 4 physics was awful. but the story was decent. characters and all. GTA 5 had its moments. Trevor is still one of the best game characters I've ever seen. He's the antithesis of GTA
pearl elk
I just cant get through to where it starts getting interesting, those boring starter bits should be skippable
fathom wadi
in all fairness GTA5 throws you right into it with a robbery and car chase. But then it's an hour of character introductions over 3 chars which does take it's time. Still. it doesn't really get good for hours
pearl elk
yeah but those first couple of bits are tutorials, I know how to play GTA
fathom wadi
Got to play to the masses tho
pearl elk
I really dont mind about introductions and whatnot I just wish it were condensed
yeah but in playing to the masses they lost me
fathom wadi
they lost most GTA fans tbh. Those who liked SA and 4 were thrown under the bus
pearl elk
SA isnt even the game it used to be with all the music licensing changes
fathom wadi
What makes me sad is to think that if they rolled out an expansion for 5, it would still make 500mil. Its so wanted to try make up for what they released
Aye. SA will be modded tho ๐
you can always throw in your own soundtrack which is nice. In 5 they even added inbetween custom song sections which was a nice touch
pearl elk
yeah but as a rap fan its abit annoying they cut some of those classics out
thats the trouble with heavy music licensing and systems like Apple music where they can be both publisher and distributers
there will always be proprietary formats but when you try to lock down entire industries like book publishing its shady as fuck
fathom wadi
I always thought Rockstar should have had their own radio station for the game. An actual realtime radio station. Online music licenses are fairly cheap compered to static game music licenses so they could have doubled up with some real adverts and made some money along the way
pearl elk
yeah its completely different for DJs compared to recording artists
live music you dont even need a license to cover a song, try to do that on a stream and boom
there are alot of people who did Cyberpunk 2077 theme radio stations on YT, another thing CDPR have over Rockstar too is leaning into modding not trying to shut modders out
fathom wadi
To be fair to Rockstar they allowed modding but Take Two shut it down in a complete reversal.
fackin money grabbers at work. Like they didn't make almost a billion dollars from it already
pearl elk
yeah obviously they were pressured but still, companies like Rockstar and Blizzard you would think are the ones who could put their foot down and say no
fathom wadi
publisher rules I guess
pearl elk
yeah contractual obligations arnt easy to get out of
these big companies make sure its air tight too if they have to go to court
fathom wadi
when you meet the devil at the crossroads, you sign in blood.
pearl elk
still hate how Apple went after Samsung over slide to unlock, that screwed my UX for years
even though real world locks had been sliding to unlock for centuries
fathom wadi
I pay a small Congolese child to open my phone.
pearl elk
I just stopped using my phone, most of the software is shite and wants too many permissions anyways
fathom wadi
I dont use my phone for anything but a music player. But my wife has the entire family budget going through hers. Which sucks if her phone breaks. Like it literally stops us buying food, using the bank, etc. I keep telling her to have a backup plan but she ignores me. So I just wait for when the phone dies. Like if we need to put money in the electricity meter, and the meter runs out so the electric switches off, if her phone isn't charged we have no way to buy electric. Its stupid.
worldly sapphire
wut
pearl elk
you need a battery to charge the phone off, when I went camping I took one which charged through solar, it was pretty good cuz I put it on the seat in my 4WD and it charged saving chugging off the car battery
doesnt help if the screen breaks though which is piss easy
foggy path
the permissions thing is something apple does better than android... it's much more strict and specific about it
burnt lake
I always thought Rockstar should have had their own radio station for the game. ...
does sound like a rockstar thing to do i mean they are loaded
worldly sapphire
I dont use my phone for anything but a music player. But my wife has the entire ...
talk about a single point of failure
foggy path
eg. I can deny an app access to my photos, but I can allow it access to individual photos
it also asks me from time to time if I want to keep allowing location access to certain apps like fitbit which use it in the background
android is like "hey just give me all access to everything thx"
fathom wadi
talk about a single point of failure
indeed. But when I complain about it I just get ignored. I dunno why because she freaks out when it happens. Luckily it doesn't happen often. We tend to make sure there is always enough in.
pearl elk
the issue isnt the permissions its the constant interaction, I want my phone to make smart decisions on its own not have me constantly click stuff
to me convenience is not me doing it myself
worldly sapphire
Reminds me, in my country there's an official 2FA app. To prove I was me, I used my banking app. A week later that banking app lost its local credentials so to authorise it, I had to use the same 2FA app lol
worldly sapphire
I change my password everytime Epic Games Launcher is logged out lol
pearl elk
I can never stay logged in on Epics website
the funny one is on the marketplace, click to watch a demo of an asset... you are now leaving Epic... no shit is that why the browser opened
same on steam, I miss the simpler times when we didnt have these roadblocks and constant click for cookies everywhere
I spend more time telling my computer its okay to do something than actually doing things ๐
Starting a new help group Captchas Anonymous for people who believe they are robots because they get asked so often
worldly sapphire
its a bunch of CYA
Dunno why Steam and Epic do it while other sites like reddit don't
foggy path
It's probably a antiphishing measure
pearl elk
its because people have imitated their domain
worldly sapphire
Ah fair point, I can see how that works
pearl elk
yeah its a fairly bit problem overall, its a lucrative business for scammers
imitating banks ant tax offices in particular
and I suppose if you have an Apple account they'd try that on too but I always laugh at those since I dont have one
but I did almost get tricked by a Paypal one ๐ฆ
worldly sapphire
well i ignore all of my bills so they'll never catch me
worldly sapphire
There was some drama with discord and its API several months ago
I think the maintainers of a popular open source Discord Python library abandoned it due to friction with Discord devs
quasi mantle
Shitty Discord policies.
For crying out loud, their Discord Game SDK isn't under open source clause anymore.
foggy path
They stole their whole UI etc. from Slack and now they're afraid someone will do the same to them
median wraith
Are you talking about Discord for bots or the game SDK
I had to remove the sources from my repo time ago
feel free to use the parser
pearl elk
imagine if people copywrited mathematical formulas since the beginning, how far do you think humans would have gotten
well that worked
median wraith
wait
Amazon delivers a package and without notice you just drop into the mailbox ?
That's the first time that happen to me
obtuse glacier
heard amazon has an arsenal bird or something
just gives birth to drones from what i heard
median wraith
with an AC130 ?
pearl elk
amazong
cursive crypt
obtuse glacier
@brisk ether
sorry trip took longer then expected
those polycounts are both combined
misty comet
obtuse glacier
yes
ancient ingot
imagine if people copywrited mathematical formulas since the beginning, how far ...
Shhh dont give anyone that idea ffs !!!
ancient ingot
the thing is, Knowledge = power = money = never totally free
pearl elk
I'll just use 2+2=5 instead then
hearty sundial
Such madman.
pearl elk
"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun" Mao Zedong
which is why the US are the worlds largest weapons exporter
but aye I do live in a country where a US citizen controls most of the media so maybe Im biased ๐ In my state Murdoch actually runs 100% of the newspapers
cursive crypt
Newspaper? Fuel for fireplace?
pearl elk
I use em to make Mickey Mouse paper hats
I wonder when Valve is gonna be good again
I swear Halloween used to be more fun on Steam than this, it barely even feels like an occasion
probably hasnt launched yet because some clock in the US is playing gate keeper
zinc matrix
really triggered by high amount of vertices on the assets i bought
they look good but i believe there was no need for this many vertices just to achieve perfectly round surface..
and tools for creating LOD meshes are cutting their parts often lol so its visible loss
cursive crypt
Add 2, 3 more
pearl elk
I suppose I could add noise to the inside as well
only ~350k for the whole brick which isnt many
pearl elk
gah why does mirroring things in max flip the faces in UE
unborn lotus
reset your xforms?
pearl elk
yeah I tried flipping the normals so they are inversed in Max but they still come in the wrong way
I think its either an import setting I missed or the way UE translates the FBX
obviously the FBX seems fine in every other app I import it into
cursive crypt
Try to triangulate before export or use the imported normals /shrug
pearl elk
I do triangulate on export, maybe its the import normals rather than generating
but the thing is it shouldnt be flipping the normals if its importing them
fathom wadi
its because you are using pay2win modelling software. #blender ๐
pearl elk
you should see the issues I have exporting skeletal meshes from UE made with Blender
fathom wadi
oh I know the pain
fathom wadi
blender's bone system is head and tail and UE's is head only. Which is utterly frustrating. But the Blender UE plugin seems to fix that stuff
unborn lotus
screenshot?
cursive crypt
tbf, never had issues with flipped stuff, or at least ones which I can remember about ๐ค
On the other hand, I remember spending day or two figuring out the skelmesh transfer.
fathom wadi
I've had issues when mirroring but I enable the normal indicator to check and make sure before I export
+1
pearl elk
Ive had issues with skinned vehicles, if the rig is scaled wrong the wheel alignment node doesnt work correctly. My artists hate it when I tell them they have to remake the rig from scratch
fathom wadi
vehicles in UE are an exact science.
pearl elk
its like sorry but you cant scale it, the bones scale wont be detected
fathom wadi
you can scale stuff but you need to reset the transformation (or xform in autopay software)
pearl elk
I wish I could just say to the apps, keep real world scale dont change it okay thanks
cursive crypt
aka apply in blender
pearl elk
but theres always one which goes yeah CM that needs to be MM but its already in MM
reset xform never works guys
just dont bother, the transform in Max is different to the one in Maya
Im assuming thats why Maya is more popular for animation
fathom wadi
I tried it for a few months but I never liked it. I'd spent too much time with 3dsm by that time. But fortunately I gave up Autodesk software and eventually moved to Blender and profited.
not that blender is the be all and end all. There are still maya only things that crucify blender in terms of productivity
pearl elk
I very much doubt UE4s issues will just disappear because I swap DCCs
fathom wadi
im not suggesting you do, I just couldn't warrant my 3dsm sub anymore as I was broke :p
fathom wadi
my last version I bought didnt support 4k. I had just bought a 4k monitor so 3dsm looked tiny. No UI scaling for it or anything. Pissed me right off
pearl elk
if you scale and skin a rig in max it works fine, it even comes in fine in UE4 its just the node for wheel position uses prescaled rig coordinates and its difficult to know thats the issue
might even be a PhysX issue never tried Chaos vehicles
fathom wadi
CAT rigs seemed to work fine for me with UE if I retargetted stuff around a bit
Chaos vehicles are pretty much exactly the same as PhysX ones
pearl elk
well the rigs are fine if they are scaled correctly from the get go, the issues come with trying to rescale it
I cant see it being an issue with Max because the FBX will come in fine to other applications, its something in UE which doesnt support it properly
Im guessing its just that Max testing isnt done inhouse, Ive never seen Epic use it
issues same with both
fathom wadi
theres documentation for 3dsm stuff around, but usually its maya for rigs and animation
pearl elk
doesnt matter which FBX version I use either
maybe Blender FBX support is better than Maxs ๐ฎ
tbh if UE had procedural modelling tools I wouldnt need a DCC
cursive crypt
Gonna troll with some Blender: https://youtu.be/kakZPl0J79Q
pearl elk
pretty low poly ๐
pearl elk
well time is money for me, if Blender was easy to pickup or had some sort of easy script for customising the controls to popular DCCs
I totally felt like it was trolling me by just being different to be different
cursive crypt
Well, can't comment on that. I learned them controls, now I miss them everywhere else. Like that manipulation is top notch.
pearl elk
you mean the one like Modo?
cursive crypt
Not sure wdym. I was talking about moving, rotating, sliding, etc.
pearl elk
thats probably why I couldnt find half the stuff, its buried under the keyboard
cursive crypt
I understand. Really the GUI at the beginning was scarely unusable. Everything shortcuts.
pearl elk
Im sure they all feel similar at the beginning, its just I know the concepts so its really frustrating to be limited by the inputs
cursive crypt
However, turns out most stuff is there, just have to look where. Buut, it is really a bit off compared to Autodesk, etc. Kinda Z.
Anyway, if you are Max user, no need to care.
pearl elk
Well its not like that, Im wanting to learn I just found Blender the most difficult
cursive crypt
But why bother? ๐ค They can do comparable things, if not Blender being a bit worse.
pearl elk
I dunno, Blender has some better procedural tools tbh
alot more community made stuff which is useful
cursive crypt
Geometry nodes?
pearl elk
Max has construction graph but its kinda lame
pearl elk
Yeah I havent tried the new UI update
they might make it better for me in 3, you never know. That said there are always things I dont like about tools I use no matter what they are ๐
cursive crypt
If you read the roadmap, they plan to make a review of the UI, but there ain't resources for it. So don't rely on it.
Also, yeah, no tool is perfect.
pearl elk
plus I do like having interactable tools in UE, thats one thing Houdini Engine seems to do well same with Substance
I dont like these monthly payments but it does save me alot of time
its my phone payment that bugs me cuz its less use than the software ๐
cursive crypt
Ah, I'm on wait mode as of the past week. Might upgrade my Substance perpetual, but in an year or two, when it is worth it.
pearl elk
Im really not sure what they were thinking with the rebrand to Substance 3D naming
cursive crypt
The chemical table?
I can't and won't remember these stupid names, lol. Kinda going on with the old ones.
pearl elk
just seems silly to make a distinction like that
its like those old apps where they called em 4D just to sound like it does more
cursive crypt
Ah, the 3D? Well, it is Adobe, they are 2D. So they wanna sell that to their 2D audience.
pearl elk
Illustrator is actually 3D though thats the odd thing, sure you could call it 2.5D I suppose but why place an arbitrary limitationt here
I think Illustrator and Substance together could be super powerful but nope
cursive crypt
It is one of tens of others, makes no big diff.
Most ppl simp on photoshop, so thats with what they are associated.
pearl elk
Im sure some of those Photoshop people are like wtf we wanted 3D painting too
which they did have
cursive crypt
Yeah, and now they are offered. So good money.
pearl elk
yeah but its not in photoshop its a seperate app so the context gets lost in switching
cursive crypt
Their customers no longer buy one software, they buy a suite.
Or sub for it technically.
pearl elk
but thats one thing that I find interesting about Blender its not a suite
cursive crypt
Yeah, I mean what else you can add?
pearl elk
its not so much about adding but condensing through reuse
illustrator has scatter brushes for eg, they could easily scatter 2d or 3d objects
by making this wall between them you are actually hurting the tool development
cursive crypt
Combine Illustrator with what exactly? These are big code bases.
pearl elk
thats what you think
cursive crypt
Proof of the opposite?
pearl elk
well considering I wasnt the one making the unqualified statement ๐
cursive crypt
It is good as any other at least then. However, I'm coming up from knowing a bit about software. So yeah, it is a guess, but kinda educated.
pearl elk
lets just say we arnt talking about making a huge mega program, its simply about reuse which Adobe already does with a shared code base between CS
cursive crypt
Yeah, but they kinda recently acquired Allegorithmic, they can't just start merging. Also I'm not sure they even consider it ๐ค From what I get from their community.
pearl elk
thats why their UIs are all very consistent, they reuse what they can but it seems a shame to not adapt the 2D tools further into 3D space rather keeping them separate under the Substance 3D brand
yeah it wouldnt happen in a hurry but its not like PS and AI arnt ancient tools at this point
they coulda done this over the last 3 decades lol
cursive crypt
My guess will be at least few years until certain uniformity is achieved. i.e. when they need time to assimilate Allegorithmic. Starting small you see, the news, then the branding, the rules, the accounts, little by little ๐
pearl elk
yeah I dont think we'll see anything amazing from Adobe
if they were gonna do it they woulda done it by now aye
nice cozy money making spot theyre in
cursive crypt
Monopolism /shrug
pearl elk
it sucks cuz I really need better 3D vector tools
what choice do I have, Adobe and Autodesk... is there anything else ๐ฆ
cursive crypt
3d vector? Like DCC?
cursive crypt
Ah.. 2d vectors
pearl elk
is that 3d is it
no 3d vectors
I want to draw splines with 3d properties
I can do it alittle bit in UE4 ๐
fathom wadi
if only we had some decent vector tools for UE. I'd be happy.
pearl elk
yeah not alot of choice, which is why I wanted to try to learn Blender just not enough patience
fathom wadi
surprisingly Blender doesn't take too much time to learn. Mostly learning the shortcuts and then whatever you need at the time
I was halfway there just from the donut tutorials from Blenderguru. The rest fell into place
pearl elk
fathom wadi
wow strange but true, I was going to make one of those inflatable wave arm guys before I fully burned out.
pearl elk
but but unreal can make minds eye become cameras eye in a snap of the fingers
why I need Blender
soylent all those people you dont need anymore
more power for the minds eye
fathom wadi
you mean twitter?
fathom wadi
Bezos too. That guy is creepy.
pearl elk
we can shoot them into space
fathom wadi
nah I want to go into space one day and I don't want to find them there. Let's just use them as fuel
timber viper
nah I want to go into space one day and I don't want to find them there. Let's ...
๐ฏ
pearl elk
I dont want to go to space
cursive crypt
That achievable.
pearl elk
if I want to puke my guts up there are easier ways
I can piss into a vacuum cleaner any time I feel like it
carmine frigate
well the moon seems kinda booring, mars seems kinda booring, and i dont wunna spend 6 million years to travel to some planet with water and plants
space is basically a bring ur own stuff party
pearl elk
beratna ereluf owkwa kelowda
night grove
space is basically a bring ur own stuff party
space is basically a send your future generations party
FTFY
carmine frigate
as soon as we moved enough ppl to mars they wil prolly declare war on earth ๐
pearl elk
all the poor people will get the shaft thats forsure, like Elysium
people on the moon and mars wont be able to afford to see Earth
you think the wealth gap is bad now just wait till you add a solar systems worth of resources to the mix
pretty clear it'll be coporations controlling those resources not countries
thats if people even control their own minds at that point with neural implants being a hot topic
carmine frigate
well i cant even controll my own mind, doubt any can look at it for more than 10 sec ๐
pearl elk
AI overlords might be able to
Apple will have space shuttles that look like their logo
you get taken to special moon fruit plantation
they grow enhanced fruits with regenerative properties which are better than plastic surgery
the filtered air is much cleaner than the crappy junk on Earth which is basically a garbage tip
everyone wears uniforms made by the spiritual leader Kayne West
he's 306 years old at this point, the oldest human alive
night grove
This. Exactly This.
Using DVA as a ganker was WAY better
Right, but in low tier the correct way to play a tank doesn't really pan out
I wasn't ever dedicated to the game enough to get to higher tier play
Most the time my team members would just run around
They thought they were playing Halo or smth
lol
Now I mostly play with my kids when I have time to play games
Which means a lot of Fortnite
Yay
OW will always have a special place in my heart
Blizzard is basically dead to me now
All my dev heroes have moved on from that company
Wasn't there an all tank meta in overwatch for a while?
GOATS or something?
I didn't really get into competitive play. I was pretty casual
trail wedge
comp isn't fun; imo that's a magnet to pull the tryhards out of the fun modes so normal people don't need to deal with them
night grove
Is 2-2-2 meaning 2 of each role?
trail wedge
Hammond is faster than you think... hard to keep up even as DVA
night grove
Is it actively enforced by the game now?
trail wedge
Is it actively enforced by the game now?
comp only
night grove
Ah, I was wondering how they would break up the all tank meta
night grove
I got sick of the reaper tryhards
trail wedge
comp is only attractive to people who really care about the outcome of the round.
I'm not saying I don't try to win, but I also don't care if I do or not really much
people who care hate that attitude and get salty
night grove
I always wished I could be good at Widowmaker
night grove
Wow
trail wedge
trail wedge
I'm hardcore casual ๐
night grove
I haven't logged into my blizzard account in years
trail wedge
also I had beta but those hours aren't in my profile
night grove
Now I'm curious
If I had the right group I'd be more hardcore
I used to do some raiding in WoW. Usually as the tank.
night grove
There are a lot of characters there I don't recognize
trail wedge
I'm a bad sniper
that's the lowest win percent
been playing forever and I regularly see people who massively out lvl me, do they have lives?
night grove
LOL Rein looks ancient in OW2 but the other characters haven't aged a day
Their lives are lived in OW
trail wedge
LOL Rein looks ancient in OW2 but the other characters haven't aged a day
lol why be consistent
look just saw a no lifer
trail wedge
nah any stars is no life ๐
does playing comp give you more xp? I have no clue cause xp doesn't mean anything to me really
it just means you play too much if your lvl is high imo
if that's the case, that's why I'm only lvl 200ish when I've been playing since launch semi regularly
oh right
forgot the border colors
same statement, but with correct level this time
why not 500, come on blizzz
so much simpler that way
nope I'm just shouting into the void
meh I don't want new anything tbh, I just want them to stop rotating Arcade modes or at least make TDM permanent
it's so annoying logging in to find I can't play anything I want
3v3 elims and TDM is all I'm willing to play now
also fuck Lucio ball I don't want to play soccer
I get Gold/Silver when I play comp as DVA/Brig/Lucio
and I don't play comp as anybody else or really that often
I play heros that don't NEED their team to get stuff done, so I can ignore my rando teammates
DVA lives forever with no healer if you play her right
Brig/Lucio at least brainwashes the morons to follow you
I wish Brig had a circle like Lucio to indicate her healing radius, tons of scrubs don't know she AoE heals when doing damage
well Hog's hook used to ignore them so cut them some slack on that
that too
and walls
Hog was broken on launch for like a year
Mercy used to rez everybody on ult back then too
wild times
DVA's explosion killed herself if she was in range and she had no missiles...
I was winning left and right, but no blizz thought she was weak so we got this sweet double buff and never looked back
she's still slippery
I'm not but I'll take the trade off, the ult change is broken tbh and the missiles were unneeded but I love them
reaper is the one who life steals too much now imo
I'm of course talking about TDM where reaper is very hard to kill
cursive crypt
oh, #cpp wave
Its all Meta lately
Epic must sue for name infringement.
Meta*
Meta(regex)
holy, they really bought that domain
foggy path
they have owned that domain for a while afaik
cursive crypt
ear flaps
trail wedge
none of this is news if you were paying attention for the past year anyway
cursive crypt
faceattention
ancient ingot
MetaBook !
trail wedge
hahahahaha and here I am caring about what's going on in reality and not giving a shit about new hardware
๐
pearl elk
so Metas first product will be Verse
ancient ingot
๐คฃ
trail wedge
not talking politics, just you know... events etc
foggy path
apparently Zuck said something about how they want to make the metaverse open and collaborative
which sounds like such a complete and total lie that it's not even funny
pearl elk
ofcoarse its a lie, if they wanted open they woulda done it with facebook
foggy path
yep :P
pearl elk
its open as long as youre not making too much money
then along comes the embed removal
cursive crypt
If you make money, it closes? ๐ค
trail wedge
its open as long as youre not making too much money
but why would you want to do anything involving FB?
even for money
pearl elk
plenty of people did and where are they now
ancient ingot
Zuckerberg can zuck my sausage! he aint getting my data ๐ก
trail wedge
plenty of people did and where are they now
I dunno having money isn't the only goal for me, it's really easy to make money if you have no morals
ancient ingot
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trail wedge
yes but if you live your life right those details are a mess and kinda useless
trail wedge
gotta learn to have multiple identities that aren't tied together if you want parts of your life segreated
oh I don't care about them knowing either... for me I do it for nosy humans
well I personally like having privacy and see no need to give it up 20 years early if that's what will in deed happen
seriously speaking who actually uses FB anymore except morons and old people
I mean I have an account but I never really used it much ever anyway
yeh I never join any communities... perma lurker on things usually
this community is an exception
FB didn't exist until I was in HS and you needed a school email at that point so I kept it formal
but if I wanna share memes or whatever with friends it happens in DMs, Discord, or Steam not FB pages
nah we're at we are now because people would never listen to people like me in 1 million years so why should I bother talking to them
I live in a country of morons and sadly it kinda runs the rest of the world
and this isn't 1 sided (meaning left/right), they're all stupid (mostly)
because many of them aren't nice people on the inside
so they only care about what they think benefits themselves
I'm 100% aware
but mine was not
I'm not trying to come off as "nice" anyway
but the sad part is I feel the way I do about society because I actually do care abit even if I wish I didn't
I don't really care if anybody thinks I'm nice or a jerk tbh
I care if I think that I'm being a jerk
fair enough
trail wedge
It's just a bit depressing living in a country that is actively anti-learning/knowing anything at all
meh we only get one life and I refuse to let other people ruin the world around me without at least a token effort
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lol
guess I would need to know what celebs look like
carmine frigate
i expect a full written report on him by end of day
trail wedge
i expect a full written report on him by end of day
you're going to find out like all my teachers did that I don't do assigned work
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carmine frigate
homework is just a way to get you used to shit pay ๐
trail wedge
yarp
it's ok I got As on my tests so I got passing C/Ds since I never turned in HW
at least in the AP classes I cared even less, get a 5 on the test and got nearly-free college credit on top
not like school matters in the real world anyway, the only thing that matters in getting a good job is connections
and there are other ways to forge those
celest musk
don't underrate school like you did overrate it in relation to your job