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#lounge
deep glen
patent mango
Sorry for the rude response, ever since i posted my original question on the Facebook page, everyone basically told me im going to fail without answering my question. If i fail I fail, oh well shit happens. My choice.
mossy nexus
Hey man, it's cool. More power to you and I really mean that. Going down the hard road deserves respect regardless if it works out or not. Most people here probably use other platforms for the usual reasons.
But maybe a few do do it your way too, dunno
lucid walrus
Nothing against using Facebook, but something against existing storefronts? Ok... fascinating philosophy 🙂
mossy nexus
With around 1000 games per month being launched on steam, a lot of games get missed.
median wraith
On my own website would use HumbleBundle services or something else
I'm old for the whole setups
and is a 5% or 10% I mean
deep glen
@patent mango I only know of sendowl and paykickstart for keys. but its not super cheap and --generally-- games that have weird ways to purchase them outside of the regular stores tend to not convert pirates to potential customers. just a warning.
patent mango
My reasoning for not going with a 3rd party platform, is when you sell a game on a platform like that is that steam takes something around 18% plus unreal takes another 5% just for using unreal. That's a automatic 23% gone. I have an awesome marketing team, who is established and trusted already. So im not worried about the marketing part.
median wraith
But whats your plan for the keys ?
median wraith
My reasoning for not going with a 3rd party platform, is when you sell a game on...
a 18% hahah
deep glen
unreal takes nothing unless you make a million
patent mango
unreal takes nothing unless you make a million
Its 100k now
patent mango
Steam takes almost a 30% my friend
My point lol
mossy nexus
I know of one guy who launched on steam, and launched on piratebay. The Piratebay one had a readme saying that he understood somepeople didn't have the money or wanted to try before buying. As a result he had a 400% increase on sales
median wraith
and Epic a 5%
deep glen
"and is subject to 5% royalties when your gross lifetime revenues from that product exceed $1,000,000 USD."
lucid walrus
What? Epic changed from million to 100k already?
patent mango
Yup
mossy nexus
Its 100k now
naa it's a million 🙂
patent mango
Nope, read the TOS
deep glen
i am
patent mango
hmm, well still lol. Im not worried about the epic cut though. Im honestly surprised its not more
median wraith
so lets see you will pay a 30% whatever you do as base for your country expensives on the common case
deep glen
and once you make that kinda money you are also required to pay fee's to almost all software companies their softare you are using
median wraith
I would use itch or HumbleBundle widget
these are around a 5 to 10%
about the DRM thing, if is a multiplayer game then get the point, aside from that there is no point
patent mango
and once you make that kinda money you are also required to pay fee's to almost ...
I personally are only using unreal and blender.
mossy nexus
You can create a program that automatically generates keys, and have that give the people who use your site. Which is the original question I believe 🙂
patent mango
Yes it was, and thats what im looking into
median wraith
The simple system that comes to my mind is the COD original one, so each player have a key
but that should linked to an email for security
patent mango
The simple system that comes to my mind is the COD original one, so each player ...
This particular game is single player
median wraith
but you will need a server etc if you want to manage these
for a single player game I won't bother with keys
median wraith
idk
I use Itch, Humble and Steam so
gave a try to the other web I never remember the name, but 'ts even more empty than itch
gamejolt*
patent mango
Lol its all good. Thanks for the info guys and sry for being an ass about this whole thing. I just get tired of people questioning the context instead of answering the actual question.
Ive heard of gamejolt
median wraith
I have a master server but its only for events and updates info
Like a webserver can deal with it
but for a keys system etc and downloads don't think a normals server can cover that
The data traffic is costly
that's why use these services
patent mango
Oh yeah, I'm using my buddies server, which is secure and setup for the key system. I just have too get the system I want to use.
ancient ingot
is there a way to increase the amount of physical materials (Surface Types) or is it an engine limitation ?
median wraith
What you did
patent mango
that was basically my question. How would i go about generating the keys?
undone jolt
Hi,
I'm an Interior design student at Imam Abdulrahman bin Faisal University, this survey is aimed to collect information regarding video game production studio and it will help me in my graduation research, so please fill it.
About the project:
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median wraith
Checking this demo from epic, jesus the overall of platforms spawning for the water droplets
cursive crypt
Have you found a cave at the end?
median wraith
yeah will use this
Epic does some decent models that can be used for any stone really
better than Quixel
cursive crypt
Oh
median wraith
I mean is like the starter pack rock
you can make a whole game with thar rock, can be scaled every way
and all of them looks okay and different XD
cursive crypt
tbf, not familiar with these packs, currently checking
median wraith
let's see the next week what can do with these
Oh look who is in this video
mmm not sure is the only rock in the content starter pack that comes with the engine
yeah
median wraith
Oh no that's all you need
XD
The other showcase is from their Learn Tab Particles demo
median wraith
https://i.imgur.com/gYf0PVB.png
C++ dammit
I'm still confused by this texturing style
Like it's a low quality resolution dots thing or what ? and the end gives some kind of look ala watercolors
cursive crypt
What?
median wraith
@cursive crypt Also the caves thing took me here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0XLypJilTE&ab_channel=GreatBasinNPS
Oh this thing from epic actually works on every angle
is on the marketplace of the plugin
have to be download in the description
mossy nexus
yarp
mossy nexus
No idea.
From what I've saw with control rig and the full body IK, it's pretty much a game changer. It will only get better over time too
Hmm, there was much confusion with that announcement. FullBody IK [what is now built in] uses a completely different solver than PowerIK uses.
They are most certainly not the same thing.
cursive crypt
mossy nexus
lucid walrus
I'm still confused by this texturing style
That looks really neat. Where is it from?
median wraith
Dead by Daylight
but is replaced are the last couple textures remaining that style
I was figuring for a while how they did that
lucid walrus
Oh... that game doesn't have a watercolor effect or any unique artistic style at all (had to look it up)... 😅
median wraith
Wait something I posted ?
I'm lost
oh okay I was out so didn't even know what I posted last xd
Got a set of animations with the epic skeleton and other mesh that's using the epic skeleton but seems like isn't compatible to drag drop
🤔
how the retarget works ?
because I choose the original mesh click on retarget to the animation pack skeleton, says is done but don't let me apply the animations
I mean technically are both the epic skeleton
and I did the retarget on the skeleton says is fine
and still can't get it
ohhh okay
from animation to character and no the other way
we got the whole day TV normal programs shutdown due the volcano, man looks like mordor
ionic flame
why does chrome crap out when you casually open around 100+ youtube tabs
Still have plenty of ram & cpu left 
thorny dock
haven't you heard? there's this new "browser as a service"
would solve that problem right up
steady fox
I made this dumb spin game and people enjoy it, now we're adding multiplayer lmao
life be like that sometimes
cursive crypt
Nice shading tho
burnt lake
steady fox
Step 1: Tell people game dev ideas are ez, stop being an idea game and actually make something, look at this POS.
Step 2: Open up rollerball tutorial
Step 3: Change ball to cube
Step 4: Just like make game```
I'm a sham
Step 5: Get hired at EA for dodgy low effort game design
I hate this thing I've created
obtuse charm
Other than in-app purchases, ads and paid dlc's are their other ways to generate revenue from free to play games?
shell rapids
Other than in-app purchases, ads and paid dlc's are their other ways to generate...
🤔 Built-in crypto-mining? 🤷🏻♂️
steady fox
Other than in-app purchases, ads and paid dlc's are their other ways to generate...
Ask people to join your patreon or something, depends what type of game you're making, if it's a Furry ERP 18+ game then yeah, you go patreon cause they pull in bank, 7k a month or more lol, not bad for selling out your soul.
I'd do it, but I can't 3d art very well
half spruce
lookign for games with noise system - player makes some noise with activity and AI hears it and is looking for a source, list as much as you know please
half spruce
most stealth games use sight, not sound (or if they use sound its in the simpelst form - shoot, AI reacts), and im looking for something more advanced, like noise range (different for different actions), noise visualization
unborn lotus
alien isolation
median wraith
well noise range, noise detection at the end is the same base concept.
UE4 comes with a system for that, but never used it, I rather do my own components logic
the reason these don't comes with a real system is mainly because would be too complex for the player
half spruce
yes, and im lookign for some good references to how visualize noise, our player makes noise all the time with different values, walking, using items, interactions etc
median wraith
Tarkov heavy relays on audio, but that's more player focused
half spruce
and i have no idea where to event start with visualizating it
half spruce
but fdortnite visualize sound of other players and things
i need to visualize our own noise
cursive crypt
most stealth games use sight, not sound (or if they use sound its in the simpels...
I wouldn't say that. There are some sophisticated sounds detection systems. However, experience shows that gameplay is more important than physically correct sound, so they frequently intentionally make them more dummy. Anyway, if you want to discuss game design, that channel was removed - haha.
median wraith
😂 wait, why was the channel removed?
cursive crypt
Because almost nobody who went there knew what is game design.
fluid bloom
I don't think noise is done that much tbh
ancient ingot
cockles
median wraith
I don't think noise is done that much tbh
is hard even to find horror games where the blink lights do sounds
cursive crypt
Doom3 if I remember.
median wraith
it does ?
cursive crypt
I think so. Or was Dead Space? 🤔
I mean, sometimes they make sound. It is not so rare.
median wraith
Doom3 had more pointlights in scene with shadows than the ones I can add on UE4 before kill the framerate sadly
and that was in 2005 or something
cursive crypt
Well, they were team of pros and money.
median wraith
and way less shader complexity
cursive crypt
Just give 3 bulbs to the player and tell him that world is in crisis.
ancient ingot
@median wraith do you need a sound for a flashing light ?
ancient ingot
😛
median wraith
the hell is that
cursive crypt
foggy path
oof :P
foggy path
also I can see why you were asking about having more physical materials... because I think you might be misusing it slightly 
ancient ingot
haha yup, totally am, but its just the prototype, what im doing atm is having a physical surface per body part, so like, head, upperarm, lowerarm etc, and read damage from a hit on that surface
foggy path
you should be able to just read the name of the hitbox or something
also if your damage events are all just choosing a damage multiplier based on what was hit, it would be much easier to have a Map variable which contains a mapping of body part to damage multiplier
then all you'd need to do is look up the value from the map instead of having that massive switch
ancient ingot
ohh never used maps before, but i could give it a go
foggy path
yeah definitely worth a try
it's sorta like an array but you get to choose the key type instead of it always being a number, so you can use it easily as a lookup table and such
ancient ingot
oh right that sounds better, the other thing i was thinking of was a struct / data table
its done via the physics asset so for each set of constraints i can add a material
you can just combine the hand, lowerarm and upperarm and addisgn the "Arm" material but i wanted to do individual parts
foggy path
If the hit info contains the name of the part that seems maybe better 🤔
at least in the sense that arm is not necessarily a different physical material vs leg because they're both "flesh" in that sense
ancient ingot
@foggy path i can do it couple of ways with hitinfo, by bone or physic surface
foggy path
Ah
Yeah haven't really done much with skeletal meshes for this sorta stuff so not sure what works best for those
ancient ingot
as you can tell, me neither lol but its all good fun
and its nice to have you guys here to help me out and laugh at my spaghetti 🤣
burnt lake
https://i.imgur.com/5GVAA3s.png
when you add proportion sliders
ancient ingot
🤣
median wraith
cannot technically Facebook could put a laptop chipset on their glasses
rather than a mobile chip ?
foggy path
probably?
median wraith
and some fan that push hot air to your eyes*
jokes aside idk if that could be possible
aren't too big compared the total size of their glasses
fathom wadi
"initial reports say Facebook glasses great for 3d scanning. Future reports state it's great for collecting data to be used, abused and sold".
cursive crypt
"initial reports say Facebook glasses great for 3d scanning. Future reports sta...
That can be said for most contemporary tech. Like the tool is not be blamed, but its users.
Anyway, at least these glasses look better than the pots which are the full-blown devices of occulus, valve, etc.
fathom wadi
we sleepwalk into being the product. Everyone else gets rich off us, except us.
mossy nexus
When google glasses first came out, there was an massive outcry for privacy etc. Apple does it and people are like wow.. yeah thats cool
fathom wadi
Im gonna buy Facebook glasses and rent myself out as a mobile CCTV
cursive crypt
Make a list of compatible controllers: xbox, ps4, ... Is running supported?
fathom wadi
not for long, im getting old
cursive crypt
lol, charging extra then.
mossy nexus
you're only as old as the person you're feeling 😄
fathom wadi
my wife is 9 years younger than me. On twitter that makes me a paedo
cursive crypt
Outrageus
mossy nexus
Only if you started dating when you were 18
cursive crypt
Nah, that grooming.
fathom wadi
twitter dont care about semantics. only personal feelings
fyi I was 36 when I met my wife :p
just in case anyone was about to post
mossy nexus
Don't worry I guessed it was all above board
fathom wadi
I took a whole load of grief from an Insomniac Games employee on Twitter once because I defended the right for a 19 year old to marry a 24 year old. She even posted calling me out, telling women to stay away from me, and for people not to employ me. It still gets me angry. Part of why I burned out on game dev too. I mailed Insomniac and they ignored me. So fuck Spiderman.
mossy nexus
Twitter is a cesspool of villainy, much much worse than Mos Eisley
fathom wadi
yeah glad I was banned tbh. Everytime I see something in a video about Twitter I cringe for the fact I was involved at some point.
cursive crypt
I think in most mass social platforms there are bunch of biased ppl.
mossy nexus
echo rooms for cognitive bias
fathom wadi
yeah for sure. It's group mentality like the schoolyard. But Twitter is a place for victimhood and when there are no more people to blame, they eat each other to keep it going.
imagine if we had an echo chamber for cognitive bias for things that were just and right instead of mean and extremist.
mossy nexus
We do, it's called Twitter. At least that's how many perceive it to be for them.
deep glen
@reef relic just in case I removed your streaming to prevent you from accidentally sharing information related to streets/credit card info
(in case you forgot you where streaming)
cursive crypt
heh... I'm making 3d photo-realistic models of credit cards, collecting refs.
cursive crypt
fathom wadi
nobody wants to see me sleeping. I have night terrors.
hmm come to think of it, that might sell some tickets to the show
cursive crypt
Hm? What they actually monitor? I have an watch which can monitor, but it just records pulse basically.
fathom wadi
i wake myself up sweating. I sometimes shout and cry in my sleep. A lot of it is anger based and the dreams and mostly me in an indefensible situation where someone is bullying and I can't stop it
cursive crypt
Definitely, but sounds fun to know whether you are snorting or talking 🤔 Do they show the "interesting" moments?
"damn blueprints... mlem, mlem", "hrrr, hrr, .... screw you Blender"
burnt lake
probably going to be bad
ionic flame
https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/10/22666922/apple-epic-peely-naked-banana-judgem...
that Judge is not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need
cursive crypt
#wut
regal pecan
Apple lawyers: We can't possibly lose this case, so we'll just spend our time passively insulting the plaintiff.
foggy path
tbh peely with clothes on would be much more suggestive
like give him a giant codpiece
fathom wadi
make him into a fruit salad and give him a couple of plums.
broken sigil
https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/10/22666922/apple-epic-peely-naked-banana-judgem...
21st century problems, does a virtual banana need pants or not lol
open sapphire
Is this the most popular pastecode website? https://pastecode.io/
deep glen
pastebin/pastecode/https://blueprintue.com/
zinc matrix
blueprintue is pretty cool
I do love waiting for the project to load while it is stuck at some number
Wow it's actually loading
Stuck at a different number now 
tropic hawk
when you retire from your own project and make it open source
after you spent so many days updating and maintaining it
do you hope that someone would pick up where you left off?
tulip orbit
all my code has a kill switch. if I die, it dies.
turbid spindleBOT
:clock2: BigSeal23#6875 was muted for 5 minutes.
wary arch
hardy vessel
Hello
reef relic
(in case you forgot you where streaming)
Thanks yes i did forget 😄
deep glen
war
cursive crypt
ancient ingot
🤣
foggy path
I can't tell if that's legit on the cat's head or if it's just VFX
if it's legit on the cat's head that is the world's most patient cat to allow it
deep glen
seems real, poor kitty hehe
oak bloom
Random question - anyone else having trouble with Discord's search feature not working?
deep glen
yea, its not updating
oak bloom
How frustrating. So many good answers can be found here XD
tulip orbit
and all the terrible ones I give 😄
timber viper
Every teammate I had hated me because of this 😄
49 files on a single commit
Team lead: Huh, whats Intax working on?
realizes I just made variables const on every file
ionic flame
*49 files on a single commit*
Team lead: Huh, whats Intax working on?
*realizes...
life
north dragon
<:rider:857312707980165120> life
I like how searching for Rider shows emojies as well ><
foggy path
I always const everything tbh
Both in C++ and in JS (unless I'm working on some of our compat code which is stuck on older JS)
I mean there's an occasion when you need a mutable name but those are few
foggy path
How about for loops lol
foggy path
in JS I do often use filter, map, reduce and such
but at least in UE stuff I try to think of the performance implications a little bit :P
unreal cedar
ew
ionic flame
`const type Variable = [] { The different switches and branches; }();`
passes as c++ 😂
unreal cedar
at least use typescript pls
foggy path
while(true) alert('owned lul')
GHCJS
also Figma is apparently written entirely in C++ and compiled into WebAssembly
soft night
i saw pytorch one like can use CPU compiler need to use target for wasm and for gpu then webgl so could be what hose where the bits run
my need the shame with TorchSharp as it just similar to pyTorch but dotent side
torpid star
also Figma is apparently written entirely in C++ and compiled into WebAssembly
that's the way u do it
now no one has a real excuse to keep writing js
but they still do D:
drifting quest
hey @zinc matrix , how is it?
median wraith
Wait Unreal 1 actually had realtime reflections ? wtf
Like back in the days was common to duplicate the level but this seems like a real reflection/mirror
just noticed it on a video so
trim briar
unreal 5 in the making 😛
torpid star
if is so, why the effects don't cross the floor at clip
yeah you have a point
median wraith
http://gamedevbook.com/100_Design_Tips_and_Tricks.pdf
Interesting on the overall of points, but kinda relative on someones (the point of view from me, the expert of nothing) 🙈
deep glen
its something.gif :p
ionic flame
It's also the Hevedy that forgets about tanks working on pretty light projects with them 😢
broken sigil
Experimenting with a new color scheme and can't decide which I like more, this is the new one (it's a modified theme from a Rider plugin)
or this one which I had for ages
Oh that does look nice
spice viper
look who ive found
cursive crypt
That cantaloupe.
cursive crypt
or this one which I had for ages
Neither, too desaturated, low contrast for me 😋
shell garden
Neither, too desaturated, low contrast for me 😋
so yeah, this. just crank the saturation up and problem is solved
median wraith
It's also the Hevedy that forgets about tanks working on pretty light projects w...
I do remember a tank, but not sure if was you, also I was kinda lost to link in my head who was the tank at all 🙈
ionic flame
hahaha ouch
median wraith
Actually now I know who are you dammit 🙈
sorry about that, that happen when you change the avatar 🤷🏻♂️🤣
ionic flame
@trail wedge yo mob 100 is pretty neat
ionic flame
dubs are a myth
ionic flame
ep 5. so far so good
trail wedge
only 2 seasons so far so it's pretty short
broken sigil
Neither, too desaturated, low contrast for me 😋
On the screenshot it looks way more desaturated than it actually is, what patches posted looks close to what it actually looks like
Discord might have compressed the screenshot and ruined it 😕
It is a bit desaturated because I like it like that but Discord made it even worse lol
torpid star
median wraith
lol
I knew a guy that was doing an alike game
but the way this solves the whole game structure is kinda unique and good
ancient ingot
🤣
tulip orbit
it is a wonderful self-portrait 🙂
zinc matrix
we truly live in a society
cursive crypt
Furry?
tulip orbit
fluid bloom
so, who here has seen the new dune?
cursive crypt
Dune has kinda interesting license issues, btw.
Apart from the few games decades ago, they can only make movies based on it.
And... games based on movies, lol
The one BugCom is making
ancient ingot
morning earthlings
ancient ingot
yup, they said FU to epic again :/
ancient ingot
understatement dude
torpid star
I mean Epic did knowingly break their contract with Apple. I wonder if they are considering making Fortnite a side-loaded application on iOS
or a jailbreak app, enticing people to jailbreak as a FU back to Apple.
"Open up your device" :)
fathom wadi
what they did is irrelevant. This is post lawsuit and Apple said if Epic follow the rules they will put it back. Now they say they wont
I wouldn't even jailbreak an iphone. I'd just break it
ancient ingot
lol Marc i think i'd join you
torpid star
I don't agree with the "what they did is irrelevant" sentiment. It's very relevant.
fathom wadi
its in the past and the statement given by apple was if Epic agree to follow the rules, they will put it back on the iStore. That is a blatent lie.
What is relevant is Epic did the court thing, then paid Apple $6million in "damages". Agreed to the rules and got told to FOFF
ancient ingot
now Apple just gave epics actions even more weight, they proved they are a piece of shit company
pearl elk
Apple only cares about its share price
fathom wadi
yeah long gone are the days of innovation with Apple. I mean, even though Jobs was a piece of shit too, he at least pushed the company forward
pearl elk
I personally think Epic should just leave it to third parties or Apple themselves to do Unreal Engine support for their platforms
If they want to take a cut they can atleast earn it, they act like anyone on their platforms are going to use their extensive list of developments which isnt the case. Im very firmly against developers footing the bill for another companies R&D costs, whether its Steam, Apple or even Tesla
infact many countries give out tax credits for R&D so to act like its costing you an amount before tax is pretty laughable
Didnt a guy in the US get done big time for selling unlocked AT&T phones, the US is so arsed backwards with its corporate welfare sometimes
mossy nexus
its in the past and the statement given by apple was if Epic agree to follow the...
Well devils advocate here, their promise to welcome back Epic is in the past too... 😄
pearl elk
Apple is probably just making a point by breaking their promise, same way Epic did
I think if they didnt try to overreach with the alternate store route, if they didnt plan a campaign to break Apples terms they might have been more successful with the judge
the best solution for customers would have been to allow other payment methods in app, getting EGS on Apple products is a moot point
no one gives a shit about the frontend its all about the backend
now all those alternate routes are through a browser, so theyre all second class citizens forever on Apple
slow hill
Is there anyone here developing a game in the genre of a shooter with a third person view?
cursive crypt
No, on this channel only slackers gather.
fathom wadi
I haven't actually done any game dev in about 6 months. good old burnout
fathom wadi
I would have got back into gamedev sooner but I've got an illness plus with covid keeping the kids out of school, I have nowhere to get peace and quiet unless I live at night-time. Which is kind of tough when you have to look after kids.
the more I try, the more I burnout. Its a double edged sword
cursive crypt
Maybe try another approach? Say do something different, or hang out with dudes who work on something. No strings attached.
fathom wadi
I need an office. Somewhere I can think. I also need an income so I'm not power-working myself into another burnout. When covid started, I panicked and started trying to make some plugins and working on my own game. But the pressure to earn pushed me into working from morning to night, often 2 days without sleep. Then my illness kicked in real bad and I lost it. The past few months I've just stopped doing anything, trying to get my head back in gear, but it's not working.
cursive crypt
Then take your time, it does not sound like you can do much now anyway.
fathom wadi
time is of the essence tho. Got to earn.
cursive crypt
But you said you don't have time & space for that?
fathom wadi
indeed. So I am just circling the drain
Im sure things will work out, but I feel the pressure.
cursive crypt
Not sure what to tell ya, like you can talk it out at least.
fathom wadi
yeah I talk about it sometimes, but I don't want people to think im just whining about it 😄 Even I keep thinking "Just pull your finger out soft lad.". Nobody wants to hear someone moan all the time. Hence I haven't been doing the voice chat for a while 😄 I should perhaps start joining and just listening for inspiration
fathom wadi
my goal is just to get my family into a house big enough for all of us to live in + get some work. Family really adds the pressure. I've even thought about moving out so I have space but I can't leave them in such a way. I have spent 3 days away from my family in the last 9 years 😄
zinc matrix
https://80.lv/articles/tim-sweeney-apple-refuses-to-bring-fortnite-back/
I can't be the only one who thinks Jonesy resembles Gordon Ramsay, right?
fathom wadi
I dunno. I'll go take a poll of the entire planet 😄
im sure surveymonkey can handle it
zinc matrix
I dunno. I'll go take a poll of the entire planet 😄
"THIS GAME IS FOOKIN' RUBBISH!"
mossy nexus
I haven't actually done any game dev in about 6 months. good old burnout
11 months for me 😄
fathom wadi
maybe we should start a new studio. "Might release something sometime Games."
mossy nexus
I was going to get back into it yesterday but Blender decided to not work properly.
cursive crypt
Wait for 3.0 to get out, then try again.
fathom wadi
I imagine getting back into Blender is going to be the hardest part. Remembering all the shortcuts 😄
cursive crypt
Just month and half to go.
fathom wadi
Been a whilst since 3.0 was alpha'd. I was using it immediately
cursive crypt
stable <- 🐴
mossy nexus
For me, it's just one brush that just refuses to work. Simplify in sculpting.
cursive crypt
Well, you got me. Never sculpted in Blender.
fathom wadi
I only did sculpting once. Made some candles.
mossy nexus
I find it very easy to sculpt with Blender. I'm shit in 2D but 3D works for me.
fathom wadi
4 candles. Not fork handles.
cursive crypt
Damn... I so bad want to be able to filter out (blacklist) certain sellers on any cg marketplace /side-rant
cursive crypt
4 candles. Not fork handles.
Nice colors, kinda yummi
fathom wadi
yeah went pastel for the sub surface scattering
mossy nexus
4 candles. Not fork handles.
Good job 🙂 Shame about the forks though 😄
cursive crypt
These 8 verts better be worthy.
fathom wadi
made the best cube ever with them
cursive crypt
Dude gotta inspire himself.
zinc matrix
how do you lads design games? I know what features I want (most of them were already coded by me partially at least in the past)
but designing gameplay is different matter
hmm maybe i should start from text document
yeah now i think of it its legit idea
what
cause no one ever used it
mr konkki
zinc matrix
OKAY I have the general idea
median wraith
cursive crypt
Creepy.
torpid star
@zinc matrix @ionic flame https://open.spotify.com/track/7Bz8yww6UMbTgTVLG6zbI4?si=e04592569e384fd4
this is the vibe
enjoy
ionic flame
torpid star
@ionic flame
ionic flame
@torpid star
torpid star
@zinc matrix @ionic flame hi
torpid star
@ionic flame @zinc matrix doing good, good weather innit?
@zinc matrix I play Roblox now
@ionic flame you should play roblox
mossy nexus
🤣
torpid star
I also heard they were taking a big cut
ionic flame
@torpid star what is roblox 
(rhetorical q)
@torpid star it like minecraft but for plebs?
torpid star
@ionic flame ever play lego universe? it's basically that
broken sigil
👀
forest sparrow
torpid star
@ionic flame it's pretty good
ionic flame
orange has no power here 
ionic flame
@torpid star I don't play either
torpid star
@zinc matrix @ionic flame it's whitelist though
@zinc matrix rly? but what do u do when u want to play minecraft
torpid star
@zinc matrix no the roblox remake
torpid star
@ionic flame it's because @zinc matrix plays roblox exclusively
@torpid star i've met him several times in my favorite roblox gamemode
ionic flame
what r u watching rn
I finished [caught up with, rather] One Piece, right now doing: most of the current season crunchyroll simulcasts, Psycho Mob 100, Bleach, Reborn, among a couple of others
torpid star
yeah was about to say
ionic flame
had been in my watchlist for years 😂
ionic flame
I've definitely skipped a decent # of episodes
just like 150+ episodes of OnePiece 😂
Out of their 992~, I've skipped at least 300ish
eh, it definitely starts slow
doesn't start getting better until episodes 300+
has a lot of skippable stuff for sure
torpid star
it's one of those shows u can always go back too
I've gotten to around ep70 before stopping
I pick it up every now and then
too busy playing roblox
ionic flame
It's one of those shows that you watch when you've watched almost everything else in your watchlist
ionic flame
oh you mean that anime that people call normie shit (I like it, but still)
torpid star
magnificently insane
ionic flame
Demon Slayer lol
torpid star
yes but who listens to anime communities?
ionic flame
demon slayer is really good
I'm waiting for the next season 
torpid star
saem
ionic flame
haven't gotten around watching the film yet; don't have the subscription to that site
torpid star
its really good
ionic flame
I've heard
ionic flame
but dunno whether I wanna get a subscription to yet another streaming service just for that
ik
zinc matrix
so are you guys hyped for New World
ionic flame
No
torpid star
what's New World?
ionic flame
I'm waiting for AoT final
torpid star
u should try persona, it's got anime mixed in it.
zinc matrix
what's New World?
most unoptimized game in the world
torpid star
ah the rtx killer?
zinc matrix
yes
ionic flame
it's not in amazon for canada
torpid star
what the hell are u saying, how could u abuse big corpos like that?
ionic flame
I guess I can try the trial stuff
torpid star
they have bills to pay
mouths to feed
or something
same
rip discord nitro :(
yeah but I liked being purple
I mean I hate purple people
it is a bit pricey
ionic flame
rip discord nitro :(
I have 2 days left
torpid star
can you make a message containing every single custom emote u have
get the most out of ur dollar
the whole shebang
no u
ionic flame
part 1:
torpid star
part 1:<:alex:330044263201112066><:fivus:845005272997167104><:fivus_closeup:8450...
u mad lad
lol
ionic flame
part 2: 
torpid star
that's beautiful
torpid star
this is a beautiful wall of emojis
ionic flame
anyways, at this rate I'd probably have like 9 parts
cursive crypt
wtf is this pachinko wall
ionic flame
including all repeaters
torpid star
same
torpid star
wtf is this pachinko wall
ionic flame
ionic flame
cursive crypt
https://discord.com/channels/187217643009212416/221796616653373441/8906548938938...
bonk
torpid star
@zinc matrix hi
ionic flame
no u
#lounge message
ionic flame
what the actual f***
ionic flame
@zinc matrix how do you know dragonHell isn't part of God's circle
who knows, maybe God's alias on earth is dragonHell
what if dragonHell invented #includes
median wraith
https://giphy.com/gifs/hello-hi-flirting-VGbSh9YikbINz3jh7d
@zinc matrix This is perfect for the horror lounge game
torpid star
<@456226577798135808> This is perfect for the horror lounge game
it really is
ionic flame
yo @zinc matrix you're getting tagged like a madman 
I'm kinda glad I only hang around in #cpp and #multiplayer
cursive crypt
Badass bear
ancient ingot
ye man thats pretty big news for linux gaming, so many times devs have refused to bring their game to linux because of the lack of anti cheat
well..err.. maybe lol
zinc matrix
what's the latest C++ version supported in UE5? Seems that C++17 works but i wonder what more later versions are supported (or is it whatever latest the MSVC supports?)
cursive crypt
Go ask that in #cpp , keep the guys there occupied
That bear might be a friend of penguins.
ancient ingot
robust gulch
open sapphire
How do I make Main Window the default setting?
burnt lake
zinc matrix
and even liking the idea of decentralization; it gets very annoying when you know a website of the BEST 100 OS for Linux/GNU exist
unreal cedar
I'm confused by your complaint
Windows is already a fairly open platform
it's already the status quo
zinc matrix
like, what the heck? Is good to apart from Microsoft, but splitting the community in Distros?
celest musk
they aren't split
zinc matrix
feels to relate to more problems to be solved while we could go; want a fancy x11? Gnome or Plasma whatever (idk Linux) & one for low end, XFCE or something
unreal cedar
I'm confused as to what the argument here even is
Is it that vulkan is pointless because people shouldn't target linux?
zinc matrix
I am just pointing out the problems of decentralization and the idea of Microsoft will close more and more on itself
unreal cedar
but... no one was arguing about "decentralization"
zinc matrix
Apple is the role of software/hardware efficiency as far as I know and they are a walled garden
the guy complaining is not here, I just wanted to raise my points
celest musk
i think each platform has it's benefits and target group
unreal cedar
MacOS isn't a walled garden (even if they've been moving in that direction), isn't a major platform for PC gaming, and has a much smaller market share than windows.
celest musk
and some people are stuck on the wrong platform
because there's so much involved in a platform change
that doesn't mean that the platform is the problem
unreal cedar
I still have no idea what this guy is even arguing. No one mentioned decentralization. Everything was a response to why devs shouldn't just drop vulkan and move to directx. The answers to which aren't even necessarily tied to linux.
zinc matrix
that doesn't mean that the platform is the problem
but it plays a role in getting people stuck on wrong platforms
but as soon as possible, Apple, Microsoft, Google and people from the 100 GNU OS should get together and develop open hardware
& software
celest musk
no
zinc matrix
are typing that competition is better than collaboration?
zinc matrix
😄
celest musk
also the majority of people dont want open hardware
unreal cedar
are typing that competition is better than collaboration?
Assuming collaboration is inherently better also assumes that having more people work on the same thing will inherently make it better. And yet there's the saying... too many cooks.
celest musk
they don't even care about that
zinc matrix
actually I think a lot of people caring about open-source stuff does not make any difference to it
I mean, end-users
what is the difference between a free software and open-source for an artist?
5% after your first million dollar?
😄 .
ionic flame
^ and that is probably a reason why you're not a CEO of a billionaire company
let's not forget that Unreal engine's license wasn't like that until recently
Ue4 introduced "free" to use
and now Unity pales in comparison
unreal cedar
Unity had a free license with some severe limitations (which is still the case).
which was still better than Unreal's original plans
but it wasn't really free the way UE4's first free plans were (which also weren't and still aren't entirely free, but moreso than Unity's)
zinc matrix
^ and that is probably a reason why you're not a CEO of a billionaire company
I would refuse to be a owner of a billionaire company
do you have any sense how much a billion can do for some regions in the world?
ionic flame
a lot less than most people think it can
zinc matrix
either the way, I bet if some millionaire dev. in Godot appears, it will donate sometimes more than a license for Unreal 🙂
it just a fun comment, as researching which engine to use the price section was pointed as a main topic
like oh, Godot is free; do not share your 5% with experienced devs. too much
ionic flame
there're also custom contracts btw
pearl elk
celest musk
you had to scroll through a lot of cursed gifs, to reach that one
ionic flame
pearl elk
lol there is actually a reason I never used my handle as a business name
how many games can you realistically make about a dead red planet 😛
Im guessing thats the mars rover simulator thing
celest musk
dude
there are people enjoying the lawn mower simulator game
you'll surely find some who enjoy driving a rover around a dead planet
pearl elk
lawn doesnt grown on mars
celest musk
you could add a vacuum cleaner
foggy path
protip: never share your game's google account with the other developer who lives in a totally different country than you
we just got locked out of the account because google detected something suspicious and there's no way to recover it gg
:D
pearl elk
My original Mars game idea was abit more like The Expanse, but tbh they did it better 🙂
celest musk
just change the planets material color to cyan, add some rings and call it saturn something
pearl elk
Theres one series of books where Mars gets terraformed and ends up becoming Green Mars
it actually happens through ecoterrorism too lol
celest musk
that explains why they sent a rover up there
pearl elk
machines will take over Mars and use the resources to build an army to protect itself from humans
zinc matrix
someone can point me out if Unreal Engine performs better than Godot for low poly games, aiming mid tier hardware (smartphone)?
pearl elk
Im still trying to work out what a mid tier smartphone is, changes more than my undies
zinc matrix
phones released in 2015-2018
when I mean low poly, is very low poly
but I am starting to create planets and even using level streaming, I am afraid that Unreal will run it better
pearl elk
much of a muchness for the most part, depends on how small you want the final packaged game to be
zinc matrix
I do not care much about how much space it will take
but I would care in how low I can go in computational power running my kids
pearl elk
theyre both generic engines so hardware specific tweaks are going to give you better computational performance
zinc matrix
by deafult, which one will gave me the best?
I am too away of specific tweaks beyond level streaming and using few textures on the game
pearl elk
test both and find out is the only way, none of us here have your game to give you the correct answer. Generally speaking, they'll be about the same
zinc matrix
I am actually aiming computer usage but since the smartphone market is so large, maybe it worth it translating mechanics (it is basically about piloting vehicles and walking around & pressing a button to skip dialogue)
"worth it"
the game will be $ free of cost and I will on its website ask for donations
I may stick with Godot then, GDScript is way more easily to understand / use
and I hated it compared to blueprints on my first experimentations
I feel that Unreal Engine uses way more my computer
Godot the maximum number of meteoroids I can spawn is around 750 without lagging
pearl elk
Well you are in an UE server so I could have easily said, UE is the best hands down bar none 😛
zinc matrix
but my cooler is a breeze
but you are just feeding the panorama I am trying to reach
why would you do so?
pearl elk
if you want to be sold on Godot Id ask in their server lol
burnt lake
spice viper
looks like windows games with EAC will be able to run on linux soon https://dev.epicgames.com/en-US/news/epic-online-services-launches-anti-cheat-support-for-linux-mac-and-steam-deck
abstract trellis
my game is going to be superior
cursive crypt
cursive crypt
pearl elk
wtf EGS survey asking the important questions, rank these avatars
cursive crypt
Fruit avatars?
pearl elk
they are mostly junk too
fluid bloom
are they trying to make EGS into the most disliked application ever?
also I swear I have turned off all of its bullshit notifications but they still continue popping up from time to time
cursive crypt
Is it so bad? Never used it, lol. On the other hand, considering the Launcher/MP interfaces... 😩
shell garden
neat, the escapists free this week, europa universalis iv next week
pity i already own these games on steam 🙃
pearl elk
I wish theyd just make the launcher good already
median wraith
Bet the launcher is compiling shaders
What the heck
I didn't know we had a Mask Parameter
pearl elk
EpicWeebHelper
median wraith
I think this is new? Like on 4.1x wasn't there
deep glen
around 4.17-ish iirc
median wraith
damm
median wraith
https://tenor.com/view/a-lovely-tuji-hug-couple-in-love-heart-gif-17750778
A person used to send me of these two bunnies gifs xD
median wraith
tbh don't need nanite if you use tessellation and close views
pearl elk
I prefer vegemite to nanite
median wraith
did they fixed finally the non opaque meshes rendering ?
pearl elk
you dont need non opaque meshes, just use more polys 😛
pearl elk
doesnt need to be nanite
median wraith
yeah but there is a bug
normal meshes that aren't Nanite and aren't opaque render on top of nanite
pearl elk
tbh glass is overrated, just make it totally reflective and save yourself acouple of years
median wraith
also I just read world origin rebasing don't work on listen servers
that's good to know
pearl elk
Id rather they fix the launcher
median wraith
just got a pack from marketplace of rocks and it don't come with heightmap with all the round details it have on texture and lowpoly meshes 🤖
oh lord
pearl elk
its actually easier code-wise to just program for 2 paths, client and server rather than having to make exceptions for listen
all you need to do is boot dedicated and join with a client instead of doing listen
median wraith
that sound kinda bad
not sure why Epic abandones this
like not all indies doing games or coop can pay an Amazon server
pearl elk
I dont like the way listen servers are handled overall
median wraith
or can't let the clients open the game x2 times
pearl elk
theres not much difference performance wise between listen and client/dedicated tbh
you might think theres savings but in reality its all about the same resource usage because of the server authoritative pipeline
maybe if there were P2P clients
pearl elk
character physics in particular can be better handled through more P2P for coop, its easier to do the client side compensation and let the other clients fix issues on their end rather than server sync. Reduces a fair bit of rubberbanding
pearl elk
you'll have to test it see if it works or not lol
trail wedge
everything was working for me when I snagged my free stuf 20 minutes ago but the launcher is slow and buggy even on a good computer; obviously epic doesn't care
even if they made the launcher in BP only it should work better 😛
pearl elk
the launcher has been garbage since its inception and has never got any better, Im guessing Epic thinks free games makes up for it
trail wedge
I only open the launcher to claim free stuff I don't even install (maybe one day)
median wraith
pearl elk
if it were easy to not launch it I bet theyd see a sharp drop in users using it
median wraith
so my folder of resources for the project its like 20GB XD
never had something that big for a personal thing
pearl elk
20GB is too small, it needs to be 60GB minimum for a fresh project
median wraith
haha
pearl elk
then the finished game needs to be about 500GB
ancient ingot
not as good as my spaghetti!
ancient ingot
https://i.imgur.com/mgJCpGK.png
So much cuter !
median wraith
but why they removed tessellation ?
Featuring you cannot do dynamic deformations anymore
nope
UE5 right now basically it's like
Hey now the illumination is dynamic but the levels must be static
😅
pearl elk
super static meshes
median wraith
Virtual textures are kinda broken
from what someoen said on UE5
oh wow Tessellation adds like 3ms
to the base pass
cursive crypt
You expected it be free?
mossy nexus
You expected it be free?
I expected it to remove ms.
median wraith
You expected it be free?
no, but 3ms on just meshes that are close
is kinda high
well maybe if switch between materials in LODs get better
still got like 2ms on base pass in other project
and don't know where it comes yet
like masked foliage is doing that ?
pearl elk
its not just on meshes that are close though, its applied in the shader so its always on just depends on the setting as to how dense the tessellation is
flint sorrel
Anyone done anything building with pixel sized objects by chance ever in UE?
Wondering if this would create a greater load than having a bunch of models, etc..
cursive crypt
flint sorrel
The U on the left, is all pixel blocks, all scaled down to 0.003
I left one pixel above to show how big the pixels actually are in relation to the letter
cursive crypt
ue4 and 5 support at least 4k pixels, from what I saw 🤔
However, if you are asking seriously, you may have better luck on the dedicated channels, like graphics, general, ue5 & so on.
mossy nexus
I know a dev who moved from 2d sprites to 3d meshes as the sprites were killing performance.
flint sorrel
It does seem to have a slight pull on performance, I did 37,000 pixels
Once you get close enough it tends to get a bit more sluggish
So I would imagine with a whole lot more, it would only complicate and add load times and resource usage of the cpu/gpu
cursive crypt
What is this ponkkis? Candles or cave? Or you are just trolling Blender? I had cases where it was hanging on few hundred thousand polys 🤔
median wraith
ship it
flint sorrel
the base would be more like the texture of mold or something
cursive crypt
Oh, nice. I always wanted to taste these.
flint sorrel
You can have lines but not too muh grouping
cursive crypt
But afaik, they not healthy.
Anyway, 3m polys on potato sounds kinda good. Or wait, that geo nodes?
Ah, I see. Well, ue would be fine too I guess. If you instance them. But you really don't need that many polys. Just bake it down.
Aye
flint sorrel
if you can add some kind of erosion on the sides of them it would look pretty neat too
i notice these structures have some erosion type going on from the constant water dripping on them
or running down them I should say
some are folded, but always have that erosion texture and kind of bumpiness to them
the folding effect though is just where the erosion from water likely channeled through
they were probably once a solid round piece or something
the top or base, would be like a petrified mold texture where spaced where it almost but not quite looks like some kind of fuzz
carrots yum
selecting 30,000 pixels doesn't make my pc happy lol
median wraith
@zinc matrix I needed some cave details but for now will pass jjst with rocks
flint sorrel
theres some basics for ya =p
You gotta see it in person, caves irl are absolutely amazing
We hit most cave tours when we travel
Also its great exercise if you get a cave thats big to tour lol
median wraith
where is wally?
flint sorrel
where is wally?
in cape town
flint sorrel
Wally is a cave in cape town
😂😂
technically it's wally`s cave but the joke still works
cursive crypt
Does 3.0 it have that asset manager thing in? 🤔
median wraith
Yes
cursive crypt
Hev, you too on 3.0?
Kinda wonder how good it is.
But they still add things to it, there is time until release.
median wraith
nope still on 2.9
flint sorrel
🤔
cursive crypt
nope still on 2.9
That release kinda year ~2000
zinc matrix
man
low poly trees are bad t.t
they should have leaves instead of these
green izospheres
mossy nexus
Google has a dark theme! Gods of Light Dark be praised
ancient ingot
ye i saw that a few days ago, and rapidly activated it !
ancient ingot
omgs a duck
cursive crypt
cycles, asset manager, geonodes - think these were the major things. + many more.
ancient ingot
genocide? 😮 where?!
pearl elk
the body parts are in the blender
ancient ingot
🥷
median wraith
Do someone had the thought about UE5 water ?
Like the water Epic made for the 4.25 won't work anymore as they removed the tessellation ?
ionic flame
^ it works in 4.26
ionic flame
Like the water Epic made for the 4.25 won't work anymore as they removed the tes...
It's a first party Epic plugin tho
I'm sure they'll figure smth out
that for sure is something
They do, but irrc their shader does use tessellation
mossy nexus
I reckon their magic mesh is doing fine without it https://youtu.be/o8qZ2vCH5Pk
median wraith
yeah but these aren't on gpu polycount plus are fixed
mossy nexus
Fixed you say? If you press play they move... 😄 😝
median wraith
yeah it moves but isn't related with the fact the grid isn't dynamic
burnt lake
mossy nexus
yeah it moves but isn't related with the fact the grid isn't dynamic
Not sure I'm understanding you properly. The grid is dynamic in the sense it changes the size of the triangles as required.
median wraith
yeah but Tessellation changes in size at runtime locally
so close area get more details
mossy nexus
Same with the water. The closer you get to it the more details there are 🙂
The further away the less 🙂
timber viper
Is it just me or BF2042 graphics suck
BF1 is totally better than leaked BF2042 footages
carmine frigate
it all went downhill after codename eagle 😛
flint sorrel
wee I have a streamer tail lol, playing with line trace obviously
median wraith
Is it just me or BF2042 graphics suck
that happen when you use scans and then you don't have scans from future assets
🤖
and what just said isn't even a joke
BF1 looks better than BFV
and BF2042 looks worst because don't heavy uses foliage and scaned elements
aside of the map sizes and human resources
now is when procedural contents inside the editor will be needed
like placing random things on occluded areas etc
flint sorrel
lol
promised quick returns suffer quality always
unless your indie and on your own schedule
median wraith
Like here the background looks from Fortnite
and the close are have no decals or anything
not even effects over the level
flint sorrel
Yeah I see what you're saying, like the further back it goes the more fortnite'ish it gets lol
not a fan of the glass reflection either, kind of dull and boring
a transparent reflection of some sort at the right angles would be kinda cool
median wraith
but I'm going to be honest I don't care about this graphics if the gameplay is cool
damm
did you got the files from the guy or replicated it all ?
set smooth shader on that snow
isn't like normal meshes ?
uh
flint sorrel
still looks cool though 😛
median wraith
do you have it all set for GPU ?
the Windows GPU usage percentages are broken just saying
ionic flame
BF1 is totally better than leaked BF2042 footages
how dare you say that
also understand that the leaked gameplay from the closed testing in august was alpha
median wraith
Let's be honest it won't be any better @ionic flame
and Call of Duty isn't way further talking about graphics
ionic flame
any better than?
ionic flame
you're saying how a game with over 3 months of work from the alpha isn't going to be more polished?
by a team of potentially 100+ people?
median wraith
yeah sure will be but on critical and core things
the maps won't get any change, if they do will be the first time in the history
ionic flame
Intax's point was on graphics tho (if I understand correctly)
even if the graphics stay the same, tbf I'm fine with some graphical cuts they had to make to fit 128 players
median wraith
they not gona fix in 3 months what wasn't made already like
ionic flame
Yeah, but shaders & post processing & vfx will definitely change
ionic flame
Yo rocket league keeps crashing because of audio errors
and somehow solves that by banning me from matchmaking
median wraith
lol
ionic flame
"you can't crash mid game from our stupid bugs if you can't play a match at all"
median wraith
the FBY got your mic catch and is doing interferences