lounge

[primal spoke]

We need to have a serious chat about priorities if that is the case.

[light spruce]

Yeah. It does kinda break the pyramid construction analogy though by the grouping

The implication is that you need all of the bottom levels satisfied first

[tulip orbit]

well, you pretty much do

cant pursue your goals if you dont have food and water

[light spruce]

I was really just referring to the bottom two levels there

[primal spoke]

You really can look at it as death% kinda.

[light spruce]

Because in.. situations that are not ideal... you're going to do some trading

[primal spoke]

death% goes down the higher you get

[light spruce]

Where you'll give up rest for security

[primal spoke]

You'll die without rest tho.

[light spruce]

or you're weighing a source of food/water against the safety aspect

[primal spoke]

So its only temporary.

You can't completely forgo food.

[light spruce]

Well, sure.. if you aren't considering a timeline ever

[tulip orbit]

the pyramid is more of an overall generalality of needs. There's always exceptions.

[primal spoke]

But you can literally get punched in the face everyday for the rest of your life.

or abused.

[light spruce]

well

to a point

[primal spoke]

but you gotta eat sleep and drink

gotta

[tulip orbit]

how do you eat sleep?

[light spruce]

You can go way off the rails on that one

[primal spoke]

by putting a comma in between

[light spruce]

Because, while technically, you need those things to survive... it's not really a hierarchy that holds true if you don't want to

[primal spoke]

But thats actually a good skill for a monster or something. They eat your sleep.

I call dibs.

[light spruce]

I do enjoy that "warmth" is in there

Not ... "temperature that you can survive"

[primal spoke]

Also, I don't recall seeing warmth on other examples, tbh.

what does that even mean? lol

warmth is uber subjective.

Definitely shouldn't be there. I'm not risking my life to move from being cool to being warm.

So...I would say....bad chart.

[light spruce]

"However, it has been pointed out that, although the ideas behind the hierarchy are Maslow's, the pyramid itself does not exist anywhere in Maslow's original work.[9]"

So, a step beyond bad chart

My takeaway from this: It's a rough concept that people can see and understand... parts of it are unscientific... and aspects of it have been portrayed as more rigid than they really are

So, not too different from my argument that there's some trading to be considered along a timeline. Then again... it's psychology. And psychology has a rough time as a science

[zinc matrix]

How long does it take to learn C++ to a sufficient level if you're a complete beginner?

[tulip orbit]

that depends on you, and where/how you learn. so anywhere from 1hr to 10 years

[red pewter]

woops, wrong niagara

[regal pecan]

Probably 2 to 5 years. Depends on the scope of 'sufficient'. My sufficient was "I don't want to learn C++" and it took about four hours.

[red pewter]

UE4++ is a fair amount different from regular workflows

[light spruce]

Isn't every skill supposed to be that roughly a thousand hours thing or whatever?

I never learned C++. I had to work around not knowing shit about C in general when I had to fix some obj-c a million years ago to ship something on... whatever Apple's store is called now

But, not everyone can do that

I can pick things up and work with shitty documentation and make shit function

And I could turn that into actually learning it if I did it enough

tl;dr - it depends on who you are

[tulip orbit]

thats what i said.

if you're like me, it'll take forever. if you're a prodigy, it'll take no time at all

[regal pecan]

10 years could be a 30yo who started at 20, or a 20yo who started at 10.

[light spruce]

I AIN'T TRYIN' TO STEAL NO THUNDER, BRUH

[primal spoke]

I don't recommend learning C++ as a complete beginner because it will take longer than learning an easier language and then learning C++.

[light spruce]

We can high-five and be on the same side

Yeah, that might have been a valid counter-question... "Do you know any other languages even if they're scripted?"

[primal spoke]

C++ is ridiculously difficult comparitively.

[light spruce]

You kinda have to learn that "syntax is a thing" and "different languages have different syntax" and "holy shit common library functions"

[regal pecan]

Then there's the IDEs and compilers.

[primal spoke]

The C++ community reminds me of you Justin...difficult.

The other programming language communities feel much less uptight and mean, tbh.

mean for lack of a better term, and refraining from profanity.

[light spruce]

I'm a hard, broken son of a bitch.

I have some insight and some knowledge that's worth sharing.... but I'm so burned out that I don't know how to do anything

[primal spoke]

I burn out a few times a year, tbh.

I have a short wick I guess.

[light spruce]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuN_YydYcXs

Sometimes... I just hope someone will randomly say whatever one thing it is that would be worth hearing for me.

[tulip orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/GHQO96y.jpeg

[zinc matrix]

Should I just stick with blueprints?

[tulip orbit]

blueprints are a great way to learn the logic behind programming, imo. and once you've got a hang of the basics, you can start delving into c++

[zinc matrix]

Honestly I'm just overwhelmed with what I have planned

Like it seems impossible

Or at least beyond my fortitude

[tulip orbit]

yeah, most of my projects have ended up being too big for me. I'm just a hobbyist and havent released anything. I always read to start on small projects. build your dream game later

[primal spoke]

I agree with what interitus says. Doing blueprint first is a good idea if you must stay in the UE environment and have no prior programming experience. But actually learn why nodes are being connected and not just the visual patterns of BPs.

[zinc matrix]

Good call

[tulip orbit]

😲

[shell garden]

if the magic 8ball agrees you know it's true

[shell garden]

[light spruce]

Blueprints are also great for "discoverability"

You can take an output from a node and search to find something you can plug the thing into

And it's pretty helpful for when you know what you're trying to do but don't necessarily know how to do it

but that's also part of that "learn why nodes are being connected" thing.

[shell garden]

autocompleting code can be good stuff

[tulip orbit]

blueprints are great for my programming method: https://youtu.be/pnAF1k1hhSI

[shell garden]

spamget

[real palm]

hey that's not fair to Justin now cmon

[tulip orbit]

yeah the c++ community is far more difficult

[pearl elk]

that spaghetti aint ready, it only sticks when its done

[tulip orbit]

and not sitting out on the driveway for who knows how long

[light spruce]

no need to act like you wouldn't drown me in a bucket

[tulip orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/jwPwOv6.jpg

[light spruce]

GVEEFMEMFSBUCKET

[regal pecan]

If you had a bucket from which people could randomly pull cheeseburgers, you'd hold it that way too.

[light spruce]

BUSKET
GIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'd love a cheeseburger rightnow

But I'm also pretty loaded.

[regal pecan]

I could use a cheeseburger bucket.

It doesn't have to be cheesebugers. I'd settle for hamburgers. With pickles.

[light spruce]

pickles?

you're dead to me

[regal pecan]

I see this as an absolute win.

I'm also happy to eat pineapple on pizza.

Ketchup on cereal is going a bit far though.

[gritty sail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prE0td0Njt0

[light spruce]

pineapple on pizza is fine

I don't get why that's such a contentious thing

then again...... I don't understand people

[regal pecan]

Maybe they put the whole pineapple rings on it, which might be overdoing it. I've only had the small chunks.

Barbecue chicken pizza is much more deserving of scorn.

[light spruce]

concur

I would rank my current Titanfall 2 performance along the same lines

[cursive crypt]

TikTok? 🤔

[fluid bloom]

I once ordered a ham and pineapple pizza and the kebab place owner on the other end of the call said "no ananas, only bananas"

he spoke really poor finnish so in the confusion I ordered one

ham and bananas pizza

[light spruce]

ProTip:

don't order pizza from kebab shops

[fluid bloom]

as if there was any other place in my home town

[light spruce]

like I know the exact business distribution of Finland

The solution to that problem is "fuck pizza then"

[fluid bloom]

then why are you even saying "don't order pizza from kebab shops"? 😄

I mean, stop talking then

[light spruce]

What does a kebab shop know about pizza???????

There's not even a total consensus on what a "kebab" is

[foggy path]

kebab shops are the only places to get pizza here

most of them are just pizza places where you can also get kebabs from :P

and possibly other things the owners thought would make money

there's one pizza only chain but I guess it's the only one 🤔

[light spruce]

So

What I'm hearing is that, not only is your native language impossible... you can't get a decent pizza. Way to sell Finland to the world.

[foggy path]

https://veryfinnishproblems.com/blogs/news/pizza-berlusconi

[light spruce]

"Finland" not "random-ass gas-station kebab place that happens to be located in Finland after the owner immigrated from Latvia"

[median wraith]

Someone else having problems with Twitter ?

[foggy path]

yeah the pizza berlusconi thing in that article is from that one pizza only chain lol

[quasi mantle]

Not me.

[foggy path]

but actually the pizza/kebab hybrids are pretty much all run by turkish immigrants or middle eastern folks :P

[light spruce]

Yeah, see, I was trying not to lean into the stereotype

[foggy path]

and all our chinese restaurants are ran by vietnamese immigrants lol

[light spruce]

Because I was going to say "Omar" but then I thought... wait... that's a city

[quasi mantle]

Twitter works fine.

[foggy path]

Omar in Finland https://www.fazer.fi/globalassets/inriver/resources/7d1b427d-dbb0-4b18-bb26-646ef21233f3.png?width=1200&height=630&mode=max

[median wraith]

It seems like I got problems to load discord images too

😂

Not even mine load

[light spruce]

Okay, what has Finland brought the world aside from shitty rally conditions?

[quasi mantle]

Your ISP having poo poo time it seems

Try using DNS proxies like 1.1.1.1

[median wraith]

isn't 8888 better ?

maybe is the antivirus doing the stupid another time too

[quasi mantle]

Nah, I prefer Cloudflare's over Google's

[median wraith]

Its cool on my network provider I got half of the speed I pay for

but on external tests I got the proper one

once Vodafone locked for whole spain Origin

and nobody where able to access it for 3 months

[foggy path]

wtf? :D

[median wraith]

nope changed the DNS

still not working

and isn't the antivirus 🤔

[clear venture]

can anyone help me with some excel flow charting i cant do this to save my life ........ please ........ help.......S....O.....S

[frosty halo]

8.8.8.8 is just the Google resolver

As far as I remember

Dns resolution isn’t an indicator of your speed

It’s a very different thing

A ping to resolve a domain to an address is a pretty small packet of data, and has no bearing on what your speed is

[median wraith]

@quasi mantle on the phone connected to the same Lan it loads

[median wraith]

didn't claimed such thing

[frosty halo]

If you are suffering from a slowdown in internet speed and you’re positive it’s not an external factor like a squirrel getting nuked after chewing the wires in the exchange cabinet or your isp throttling you on purpose, and you noticed a significant dip in your speed, you should probably turn off the wifi antenna on your router, connect only one test device via Ethernet cable and run an independent download test by grabbing some huge file off the internet and measuring it that way. Speed tests like Ookla’s or Google’s aren’t guaranteed not to have a priority set on them so the results would show up better than your real world downloads. Grab something big off a cloud drive or a website with a huge download of “something” and test. If it’s not as fast as it used to be - your isp is fucking with you

If it’s as fast as you normally should get - somethings siphoning your bandwidth.

It’s that simple.

And yeah goes without saying that to get a clean result you’d probably want to use something like a USB bootable Linux distro that’s lightweight and guaranteed to be fresh without any fuckery on it.

That’s pretty much the cleanest way to troubleshoot your speeds.

[median wraith]

its the antivirus

[light spruce]

The alternative to all of that is to be me

and no one wants that

[frosty halo]

I mean.. what sort of antivirus screws with your internet settings

I don’t want to be Justin. I don’t think I can pull that name off

Tbh

[light spruce]

Wireless? Ubiqutiti access points (that I kind of want to throw in the trash now). Routing? OPNsense with a dual-port NIC passthrough under a Linux VM host

[shell garden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbZx_zCpC-Q true story

[frosty halo]

Mate I don’t even know how I communicate with people. Don’t give me none of that network stuff

I might cry

[shell garden]

honestly just do the same thing as the network protocol in that video and you're fine 👍

it's 60 seconds of 100% accurate TCP description

[light spruce]

My DNS is handled locally with upstream requests going to cloudflare DNS over TLS

So ... don't be me... but man is consumer-grade router/switch/wifi shit awful

[frosty halo]

Unless I fuck up and start my sentences and skip some words. And when people ask me what the fuck I’ll just tell them I’m being exactly like UDP.

[shell garden]

here you go then

[median wraith]

Well discord works in the desktop app

[light spruce]

Just because UDP as a stack doesn't care if all the packets get there doesn't mean you can't build something on top of UDP that does

[shell garden]

yeah yeah

bittorrent is a good example

[light spruce]

TCP has ACKs and retransmits built in... but UDP you can do whatever you want as long as you write it

[shell garden]

but i'm talking the transmission protocol itself

[frosty halo]

Yeah I can build an email protocol on top of UDP. It’ll be known as - “youvegotsomemail.io”

[light spruce]

io TLDs aren't cheap

[frosty halo]

Some are like 20 quid

That’s not bad

But they’re super specific

[light spruce]

it's all relative

[shell garden]

udp email protocol sounds like usps though

"hey, where did my packet go?"
"🤷‍♀️"

[light spruce]

I come from a time when a .com meant dropping 75 up front for a two year registration.... and .io is usually in the 36+ range on renewals

[shell garden]

.audio is insanely expensive

[light spruce]

or like 60... depending

considering how irrelevant TLDs are at this point.. I'd register the cheapest shit for renewals and this was really about urmombuttf.art as a UDP email service

there are so many dumb TLDs at this point

oh man... I just looked up a domain name... and I really want to get it... and not renew it because the name is dumb and it's also five times as expensive

since I'm not going to... everyone... you can register butthole.today ....... today

[carmine frigate]

i allready spend all my money on cum.com

[light spruce]

god.. I feel like there are a lot of butthole.tlds available that would be hilarious

butthole.pics is probably taken.... but butthole.management? butthole.repair?

butthole.vodka.... or butthole.soccer......... you be the judge

[foggy path]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP7R7aUYCz0

[light spruce]

I remember (like everything) purhasing a Butthole Surfers album

[foggy path]

Oh

all I know of is this one song because it came up on Spotify or something for some reason at one point and I thought it was good lol

[light spruce]

I doubt that they thought in depth about the parallels between event horizons and acretiton discs to buttholes

(those are th things black holes have.... not the buttholes part, as far as we know)

side note: Meghan Markle was one of my dream girls

[foggy path]

heh

[light spruce]

unclear what that's a reply to

[foggy path]

all of it I guess lol

[light spruce]

or if it's just the awkward huff as you shuffle out of frame

[cursive crypt]

https://twitter.com/cgpov/status/1407843011820724228

Chad Ashley (@cgpov)

I don't know if I'm flattered or pissed that @Adobe @Substance3D used @GSG3D materials and assets to sell THEIR own suite of materials and assets.

I'm leaning towards😡

Original Video: https://t.co/Pty88U8vHQ

Get Plus & the MSMC materials here: https://t.co/cwjsRk6vyx

Likes

485

Twitter · Jun 23, 2021, 11:28 PM

[frosty halo]

Are they stolen or did the poster put them in Adobe’s hands without reading the tos and overlooked handing over ownership?

Cause I’m fairly certain they have no leg to stand on if their materials ended up there through an Adobe owned subsidiary or another channel which signed their rights away.

[foggy path]

https://twitter.com/Substance3D/status/1408107631479242754 big surprise there

Adobe Substance 3D (@Substance3D)

@cgpov @Adobe @GSG3D An update: the agency we worked with bought your material pack. We are investigating and will take decisions that will imply retakes

Twitter · Jun 24, 2021, 4:59 PM

[soft night]

the logo made it off

[cursive crypt]

The mystery continues.

Meanwhile I replaced the new icons with the old ones as they have better design.

[barren grove]

anyone knows where i can find a free automaterial?

[cursive crypt]

UE mp

[torpid star]

TCP is so dead

[cursive crypt]

But does it have IP?

[torpid star]

QUIC just works and it's so much better, nonblocking multiplex connections (meaning no blocking until retransmit when the receiver drops a packet), ip address independence meaning switching between connections just works^tm

overall fastr

[primal spoke]

TCP the protocol is dead? Did UDP murder it?

[torpid star]

QUIC + UDP killed it yeah

[primal spoke]

I've never heard of QUIC, tbh. its new?

[torpid star]

been around for a bit

it's basically a better TCP protocol built on UDP

one of those. TCP sucks I'll just use UDP with my own shit

[primal spoke]

UDP precedes TCP, no?

[torpid star]

no idea

[primal spoke]

I believe so because its simpler.

I could be wrong.

[torpid star]

but yeah QUIC is great

[primal spoke]

I'll check it out.

[soft night]

QUic died when Sonic boom was created

[pearl elk]

my car goes psssh psssh

[cursive crypt]

Someone knows nice generic image upscaler? 🤔

[regal pecan]

TCP is from the 70s, UDP from the 80s.
I imagine in the 70s everyone was making their own transport protocol, and in the 80s they started to regret doing so.

[fathom wadi]

there is a core difference in TCP and UDP though. TCP has a terminator based on packet size where UDP is handled as a streaming packet format. Often that is the reliant feature for the type of socket software you make/use

[primal spoke]

hmm thanks for the clarification I just assumed (IK...assumed)... that since UDP is less elegant then it was the first solution.

[next tusk]

bruh

[soft night]

i dont get it as I paused my updates

[pearl elk]

Im not sure I want to be inside Windows 11

I get the impression Ford didnt think through this shifting plate

[light spruce]

SPDY

Pretty much all of those shift plates look like dongs

Great. I'm having issues with my space bar switch

[thorny dock]

hey I just wanted to apologize to everyone here

I've been using dynamic lighting for my scenes, and according to twitter thats really bad for the environment, like NFT's

[light spruce]

NFTs....

[soft night]

game with NFTs

[regal pecan]

Gaming with 43" ultra widescreens is also bad for the environment.
You should only game with sticks locally sourced from your backyard.

[mossy nexus]

back yards are bad for the environment, people should revert to base proteins and have done with it

[regal pecan]

Lawns are bad, but my backyard is grass free. It also has sticks. So many sticks.

Trees create so much pollution it's absurd.

[mossy nexus]

Watch out for the sticks. The breed at nighttime, and move about under the cover of darkness.

You clear your yard one day and the next... sticks....

[pearl elk]

I do all my lighting with NFTs

[trail sequoia]

Not sure which channel to ask this in so i'll ask here. So first off, I'm an Australian and in Australia there are laws for getting games rated, one is an unusual law. That law is that your not allowed to incentivise drug use in gaming, and that drug use should be infrequent and isn't meant to replicate realistic effects. In State of Decay, They have a health system where you pop painkillers, but they changed it to "Vitamins" for Australian players, anyways, I can think of 1 example where this law is broken which is in Read Dead 2.

Why is it that you can use cigarettes to get dead eye energy in Read Dead 2 but other substances are illegal? like painkillers?

[spare glade]

I dont think there is a question in there?

What exactly are you trying to ask?

[trail sequoia]

Why is Rockstar allow to distribute a game in Australia, that breaks one of it's laws, which is the incentivised use of drugs?

not illegal drugs, just drugs.

[spare glade]

Because the rating board allowed it?

[trail sequoia]

I know that, there is also GTA V.

It seems to me like Rockstar and other big game company's get preference here

[spare glade]

Probably 🤷

[trail sequoia]

Do you have any drug user based games in your country?

[spare glade]

Which is probably part of the reason why the rating board makes such weird decisions.

Considering we live in the same country, you tell me 😛

[trail sequoia]

oh

nah there's nothing

[spare glade]

IMO the ratings board is a joke. In theory it should perform a pretty vital function, but in practice its just a method for controlling what people see and have access to.

Instead of slapping an R18+ on every game that breaks the "rules", they just simply outright ban it.

Because they feel they know whats best for people.

Instead of allowing the people to make their own informed choices (based on the rating) on what entertainment media to consume.

[trail sequoia]

I was also reading that there is a way of becoming a person who can approve games

I was considering doing this just to cover my ass if i taboo topics

[spare glade]

Entertainment Media shouldnt be "approved" at all, it should simply be given a rating, then people can use that rating as a guide for their own choice as to whether its appropriate for them or not.

[trail sequoia]

There are some pretty extreme ideas that could be turned into a game

but i agree with you

I think games that would be too obscure anyways would just be ridiculed by people and they might break non gaming laws haha

[light spruce]

video games turned me into the trained killer I am today

[spare glade]

According to the mainstream media? lol

[trail sequoia]

keep telling yourself that

[light spruce]

Lt. Col. Grossman said that playing Doom with a joystick was just like using the trigger on a gun

[regal pecan]

Do cigarettes count as 'drugs' in this instance?

[timber viper]

I remember someone in my country stole a car and parked to his house and later on police learned he was playing too much GTA and impressed from the games lol

[trail sequoia]

when are cigarettes not drugs?

[light spruce]

When they're a consumable that refills a resource, clearly

[regal pecan]

When someone says they aren't. Theoretically legislation would define what it bans, or at least define a committee for making that decision. They may have simply decided cigarettes and alcohol aren't.

[trail sequoia]

Well Lt Grossman is an idiot haha

[trail sequoia]

Except there is also weed use in GTA V, but it's not really incentavised

[light spruce]

I don't know if Lt. Grossman is an idiot. But Lt. Col. Grossman certainly was.

[trail sequoia]

but it can be used frequently

[light spruce]

I've yet to use a firearm where the trigger was a chunk of plastic that pressed a microswitch

[trail sequoia]

Anyone who thinks that games made them kill a man is stupid or insane. But i would say that VR shooter games could make you a better rifleman in reallife.

But skill does not equal wavering moral responsibility of the individual

[light spruce]

not unless it's also attached to a firearm

[thorny dock]

its one of 2 things obviously.
1: some stupid loophole where RDR2 and GTA5 are "depicting fictional characters", while state of decay is "your character" essentially.

2: rockstar has the money and or the legal pressure to fight the boards decisions and get their entries through

[zinc matrix]

tfw you're yearning to work on your passion project but studying to go into a job you dislike but only do for the money gets in the way 😫

[cursive crypt]

Alcohol and smoking tobacco are ubiquitous and legal weak narcotics. You can bet there are legal workarounds for almost anything. Why some pay lawyers and accountants otherwise?

[zinc matrix]

but I think the gamer community in general has to admit that there is a strong link between violent media and violent behaviour

yeah, there is research founding no relation, but have you take a look how many find it?

is a vastly superior number

[regal pecan]

The Australian rules for controlled substances don't actually cover tobacoo and alcohol, so that explains part of it.

[zinc matrix]

of course, they are not the main trigger for a mass shooting, however these things build up

[regal pecan]

However I'm not sure how the GTA V handles weed, as I've never played the game, and it's indeed restricted.

[zinc matrix]

for me it was a good critic about how the middle class average joe uses it

but they did not put much emphasis beyond making things brighter on screen and an alien mission, totally out of what is to smoke

but they got 18+ rate

the sky is the limit

[regal pecan]

Did they call it weed or some other name? Since the committee seems to judge based on if the substance is named.

[light spruce]

mintherb

[tulip orbit]

my thermostat says its 29C inside

[light spruce]

https://giphy.com/gifs/this-is-fine-QMHoU66sBXqqLqYvGO

[tulip orbit]

this is not fine 😦

time for a cool shower and hope I can lower my core temp enough to get some sleep

[regal osprey]

unreal is so overwhelming

so much to remember

[wraith solar]

Don't just remember, write it down.

[shell garden]

that's what documentation is for

no remembering, only documenting

[cursive crypt]

Hire a secretary to remember for you instead.

Also brings coffee.

[wraith solar]

Documentation is for finding useful stuff to add to your notes. Documentation often deal with more than you need but not in sufficient detail on what you need. The notes should break it down to the specific things you actually need and add little tidbits you find elsewhere.

Writing it down also helps structure the information in your head, which makes you remember more.

Perhaps this is mostly when new to something. Once you've got Unreal Engine figured out maybe the documentation will be enough. I'm not at that point yet so I'm still making notes.

I keep them here, in case you want an example:
https://github.com/ibbles/LearningUnrealEngine

[shell garden]

[median wraith]

Seems like the cars production is blocked due the lack of chips too 🙈

[shell garden]

yes, need more potatoes

[ionic siren]

Dat moment when you brute force your way through a coding problem like a monkey writing shakespeare and suddenly it all works.

[wraith solar]

How sure are you that the all part is truly all and not just "all".

[ionic siren]

Dat moment when you brute force your way through a coding problem like a monkey writing shakespeare and suddenly a very specific part of the problem works, according to the draw debug point.

[primal spoke]

I'm pretty sure if the monkeys were writing to classical music (and in slow motion) it wouldn't look like brute force. But there is a saying in programming...something like... premature optimization is evil...or something like that.

[ionic siren]

I'm pretty sure monkeys writing to classical music in slow motion would produce cleaner code than me too.

[median wraith]

🤖

https://twitter.com/UweBollocks/status/1408534667788226560

Ethan Winters' Death Scream (@UweBollocks)

I'm not a lawyer or anything but this feels like a lawsuit waiting to happen

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Twitter · Jun 25, 2021, 9:16 PM

[foggy path]

I noticed a much more interesting detail in that walking dead picture

What on earth is going on here? :P

[median wraith]

nothing really just a copy paste

xd

[foggy path]

oh my god

that might actually be it

it's literally pasted on top of the RE2 image

[ionic siren]

Except it's a non-official fake apparently

(sorry to ruin the fun)

[foggy path]

Not surprising tbh

[ionic siren]

Probably someone wanting to showcase how similar the poses are

[foggy path]

https://cdn-www.bluestacks.com/bs-images/featured_com.elex_.twdsaw.gp_1.jpg

I guess that's the original

here's one where the posers are even closer to the RE2 one :D https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Uu1s-c4Gcxs/maxresdefault.jpg

[median wraith]

Well someone said its edited

But on mobile ad I spotted something kinda equal to the thing posted there

[ionic siren]

Good advertisement in any case. I had never heard of that game and probably never would otherwise

And now that I google it, there's a lot of stories about the copied art

"One user ended up tracking down the specific ad via Facebook's internal ads library and verified that this was indeed real. In the time since this was found, however, it seems that the promotional material featuring this stolen image has since been taken down."

[foggy path]

that's what you get when you outsource to the cheapest option ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[ionic siren]

Not as brilliant of marketing as Samsung creating a waifu but still.

[median wraith]

Have to use that kind of advertisement for my projects

[ionic siren]

Think it only works if there's a big company/brand connected. 😛 Otherwise people are just gonna think that you're just another art thief and shrug.

[median wraith]

Thats true xd

[quasi mantle]

So the whole TWD Survivors is a mobile game?

[soft night]

the survivors of the great Hoodie war

[quasi mantle]

aka Bully Hunters

[light spruce]

I'm a big fan of all this art featuring people who don't know how to hold a firearm properly

it's a gun, not a goddamn teacup

[foggy path]

I'm sure you could drink tea out of it if you really wanted to

[light spruce]

okay, if you prefer, "don't forget to cup the balls"

[ancient ingot]

arse

why has liquidsoap got to be such a tw*t 😡

[cursive crypt]

Your casual afternoon nonsense at #lounge

[quasi mantle]

British Lounge.

[primal spoke]

is this pronounced... Low-Rash or Lor-ish or something else?

[ancient ingot]

liquidsoap .. streaming language / framework

[primal spoke]

I never would have got that. I have been seriously saying Low - Rash.

Low rash sounds unsanitary.

high rash sounds like a regal birthmark.

or even Lord Highrash 😁

gtg.

[light spruce]

you say people's names?

that's weird

[soft night]

people names what is that?

[ancient ingot]

i never remember peoples names long enough to say them 😛

[primal spoke]

only cool people's names 😁

[light spruce]

I'm in a weird place mentally today

[median wraith]

Hey skater o/

[light spruce]

and my leg went to sleep

[quasi mantle]

Confession: I hate when posts like this passed off as "fun "fact""
https://twitter.com/luulubuu/status/1409617853116928019

Lulu🌈🎏 (@luulubuu)

fun fact: lady dimitrescu's ass has more polygons than the entirety of Resident Evil 1

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Twitter · Jun 28, 2021, 9:01 PM

[foggy path]

That seems somewhat excessive amount of polys lol

[quasi mantle]

And poorly edited one

"Oh yeah, this shot of shitty subdiv in Blender is totally real, guys! h3h3h3h3h3h3"

"fact" my arse

[ancient ingot]

@median wraith lol wassup mr

[quasi mantle]

🇳 🇴

[fathom wadi]

did you know you can get a 30 day ban on facebook for calling someone who was giving you shit a "flatulent f**k" ?

[soft night]

you can set those limits to other people on facebook

[cursive crypt]

You again? 🤔

[quasi mantle]

I get banned from Facebook for doing nothing. No joke.

[fathom wadi]

@cursive crypt aye. I have this rule. If you give me shit, I return it.

not that what I said was that bad. I've said a lot worse.

[cursive crypt]

Wasn't you who got banned from Twitter recently? 🤔

[fathom wadi]

I was banned from twitter months ago yeah because someone argued 3 days in Fallujah was a documentary and I said I didn't want to argue but if they wanted to continue I would put them in a burning boat and send them out to sea.

[quasi mantle]

I don't think "documentary" and "rogue like" is supposed to be in one sentence, because SDIF is (mock)umentary rogue like game.

[fathom wadi]

social media algorithms are broken AF. You can get banned for defending yourself, banned for quoting someone else, and more. It's stupid.

[cursive crypt]

Hmm... I guess, you get reported, a tired mod looks at it and just swipes right.

[fathom wadi]

there are no mods. Its automated.

[cursive crypt]

Well, then as you say there is a ton of room for mistakes.

[fathom wadi]

the mods on twitter only turn up when you appeal and sometimes not even then

[quasi mantle]

Facebook had worse bots IMO

[fathom wadi]

the thing about these sites making mistakes, is that a lot of the time people use them for business reasons, or they are the only consistent way to communicate with friends/family these days. They need to have some accountability for it

[quasi mantle]

Doing nothing and you'll get banned.
Heck, even Facebook bots applied cancel culture like behaviour, banning for shit you said years and years ago, as a comment to a post that barely has any interaction.

[fathom wadi]

not to mention that I have only ever been banned from social media for defending myself against others being the aggressor. We should have the right to defend ourselves without losing access.

Like the time someone from Insomnia games called me a paedo to her 7000 followers and didn't get banned. It's all truly ass backwards.

also tried to stop people employing me.

God bless Twitter.

[light spruce]

There's a pretty big (LOL) scale problem with all of it

[humble remnant]

There's been an expose thread going on that's targeting me like since yesterday

For some reason someone said "please don't edit pics like that" and it ended up targeting an entire server

So currently I'm being called a p-word for out of context jokes

[fathom wadi]

I don't miss Twitter but I do miss some of the folks who were showing good content. The only social media I really have left for such things is LinkedIn but not as many people use it. However I appreciate the fact that there is less bullying, group harassment, etc. People tend to stick to actual work issues.

[light spruce]

They're calling you a prostate?

[humble remnant]

Nah, they're calling me a ped-antic

But it's a mix of out of context jokes and them thinking I'm talking about one person when it's actually another

[light spruce]

Just say, "Whatever, dudes. At least I don't huff my own farts out of a paper bag."

[fathom wadi]

social media is full of bullies who get away with it yet those who defend themselves for catharsis get banned. It's literally ass backward.

you can literally get banned for that from the algorithms.

All it takes is a report.

[light spruce]

And it's probably an improvement in mental health

[foggy path]

It doesn't take a report... if you suddenly get repoted a lot then yeah

it's not a perfect system but honestly if you look at how much shit some people get thrown at them on twitter for completely innocent posts it's a better system than not having it :p

[median wraith]

Man you got me abandonwarez

[fathom wadi]

There have been times I've been banned on Facebook before a report could be given. It's scanning messages for phrases targeted at who you reply to. Twitter might be report driven but it certainly doesn't have a human element besides that. You don't get a sniff of a human interaction there.

[foggy path]

It's plausible especially if it's a popular user/page

[fathom wadi]

There is a case to be made for automation, but it has to have an almost perfect success rate otherwise there are going to be false positives. Which can ruin a business

[foggy path]

since those tend to get more garbage comments

[fathom wadi]

There is no automation taking regional and dialectical based comments into account. It's also biased based on celebrity and other stipulations. Like Ricky Gervais can use the c-word at people without recourse. Yet a regular person can't use it at all. Where I live we call each other c-words as part of our banter and it doesn't mean anything, but the algorithm will auto-ban you for it. Without critical thinking, algorithms fail to accurately moderate.

[foggy path]

Yeah I don't think that's the case, I can shitpost as much as I want without repercussion

[fathom wadi]

what you think is irrelevant. I've been banned for using metaphors. People have been banned for quoting people.

[foggy path]

It's possible you got reported before for something else and it just coincided with something else, or your account has been flagged for previous violations that didn't result in a ban

Yeah I saw your metaphor and it didn't sound as innocent as you insist... I'm not saying you got banned for a good reason at that time, I'm just saying that what you're saying about "you can't say anything!" is just FUD

[fathom wadi]

i never said that. Dont put words in my mouth. I said there are false positives because algorithms and the non-human element draws mistakes

[foggy path]

Yeah I just mean that it's not entirely the way you are describing it

[fathom wadi]

and I would think what I said to the guy about putting him in a burning boat was pretty obvious I wasn't trying to harm him physically.

[foggy path]

I didn't mean to put words in your mouth, sorry, I was just trying to be brief

[fathom wadi]

fair enough

[light spruce]

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/06/amazon-is-firing-flex-workers-using-algorithms-with-little-human-intervention/

It could always be worse

Could be raining.

[foggy path]

I'm surprised people are still working for amazon... I guess they must be really fucking desperate

[light spruce]

It's America

of course they are

[foggy path]

The American Dream

White picket fence and peeing in bottles

The second american revolution is going to be violent :p

https://www.mobygames.com/images/covers/l/92860-syndicate-american-revolt-dos-front-cover.jpg this was tough as balls

[light spruce]

I can't decide if there will be one or not

The people that would actually need to do it... aren't the people that would.

It'd be the racist, lunatic dickbag type people

[foggy path]

Yeah tbh it seems maybe there won't be unless it's from the nutjobs

but the inequality seems to be an increasingly big problem and that's usually what eventually leads into revolts, and similarly other injustice, like we've seen with the arab spring

[light spruce]

Yep

Everyone has a breaking point

Something I found ... really hilarious

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/revolution-rebellion-korg-marvel-gif-15828397

[light spruce]

I've been carrying for .. I don't know. nearly 7 years? I've had firearms before that point. To some people, having them makes me a terrible person. And carrying one? I'm a horrible monster that murders and eats children.

Yet, when pandemic hell kicked off... a lot of people suddenly realized... "oh... shit. I might actually need one of those"

[foggy path]

I find it a weird idea because nobody does that here but if you are a responsible gun owner I don't really see a problem

[light spruce]

Very different culture

It's a very different culture now than it was many years ago

[foggy path]

Why do you carry one anyway if you don't mind me asking? I mean even if it was considered a normal thing here I don't think I'd do that because it'd just be a pain in the ass lol

[light spruce]

In case I need it. Though hell.. the primary point anymore is just wild animals. I don't live inside the city limits.

[foggy path]

I guess it makes sense if you have wild animals that might actually be dangerous

[light spruce]

Raccoons carrying rabies and murdering cats on my porch.

wild dogs sometimes

[foggy path]

We just have ticks which bite you and then you get a mystery grab bag of diseases

[light spruce]

Have those too. As well as the grab bag of diseases.

[foggy path]

It's been only in the recent years that the tick problem here's becoming worse, because of the climate change causing it to live even further up north than before

[light spruce]

I can't remember the third thing I got

[foggy path]

Given how much they talk about it in the media and how much they say it's so dangerous if you get bitten, it makes me wonder how do folks deal with them in places that have had them before :P

[light spruce]

Lyme disease and babesia

You actively check for them and hope they aren't the nymphs that are harder to notice

[foggy path]

I'm just gonna stick to walking on pavement lol

[light spruce]

also saturate your boots with DEET

ehrlichiosis. Same thing that killed my Siberian Husky while I was away from home at school

I got the lovely neuroborreliosis version of Lyme disease. Hence the neurological damage.

[foggy path]

Ohh

Yeah that sucks

It's not really a massive problem here yet but my sister says her dog constantly has ticks on it if they go into the woods or such

there was a bunch of stuff recently about how some smart guy scientist person was saying that it's just being ignored for some reason even though it's a massive worldwide public health problem

[light spruce]

It still sucks.. but it was absolute misery until I got treated properly.

[foggy path]

Yeah, there was some guy in the news here who had that and couldn't even get proper treatment and he went to various places abroad and got like ridiculous pill cocktails to fix shit

[light spruce]

I considered suicide every single day for about five months

[foggy path]

pill cocktails that are technically illegal here

apparently he eventually got most of the crap out of his system thanks to it but yeah sounds like a fun exercise

[light spruce]

I couldn't tolerate the oral antibiotics that could cross the blood-brain barrier

[foggy path]

something about how he had like 14 different types of bacteria in his system that didn't belong there

[fluid bloom]

xO

[light spruce]

Eventually wound up having bicillin injections twice a week for six months

Because that's about 90% as effective as IV ... rocehpin?

[foggy path]

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.is.fi/viihde/art-2000007850711.html

that's the thing I mentioned^

[fluid bloom]

I'm glad I didn't live right by the coast when I was a kid 😄

no ticks at all

anywhere

[foggy path]

Yeah I don't think they were much in Oulu until more recently

[light spruce]

Not too dissimilar from what I had to go through

[foggy path]

at least nobody talked about it when I was a kid

[light spruce]

Though not nearly as many pills

I had four of them I think

but the CNS stuff was either going to be box my liver or box my kidneys... And one, I'm pretty sure actually resulted in a broken toilet

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/nyquil-vicks-medicine-cold-flu-gif-8151895

[copper valley]

Hey guys, are there any good unreal engine subs on Reddit other then the main one?

Unity has a bunch all concentrating in different areas and I'd love to subscribe to some similar.

[fathom wadi]

this sucks

[lucid walrus]

So if I buy a 3090 now, the chip shortage will be over like tomorrow and all crypto mining will be outlawed... if I stick to my 1080ti the chip shortage will last into 2023...

[foggy path]

Do us all a service and buy one then

For the greater good

:D

[lucid walrus]

yeah... not sure my wife will buy that argument, though

[thorny dock]

you found a 3090? there are 0 to buy anywhere unless you buy it from a scalper on ebay for much more then its base worth

[worthy palm]

@devout crest I'd just choose another mobo

otherwise it'll be a tossup of whether or not the mobo rev your buying is up to date with the latest drivers

targeted for content creators

That screams buzzwords tbh

an actually 'good' motherboard doesn't start getting any better until about the $300 price point

MOST (cough all cough) motherboards under that soft price point are all similar

you're not getting much bang for your buck until you start going for the entry level enthusiast motherboards

something like this would be just fine https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/dmGnTW/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-wi-fi

[shell garden]

honestly depends what you're gonna be doing with it

the mobos all have the same (set of) chipsets these days

IN GENERAL, a b550 is a b550, an x570 is an x570

there has been a revision to the x570 chipset that improves power consumption and performance in some cases

the differences come down to:

1. power delivery (vrm), important for high power overclocking, where a large watercooled heatsink is essential
2. ram overclocking, affected by pcb layer count and topology
3. what ports you want to have, as different models have different usb and m.2 counts

but if you just want to chuck a bunch of components in a box and power on, then with very few exceptions, there's no "unsuitable" motherboard once you decide on your minimum usb/lan/m.2/whatever requirements

[light spruce]

... targeted for content creators

unsubscribe

It's really... "Are the VRMs shit? Does it have enough nvme slots and SATA ports?"

Oh. And "Does it have an intel NIC instead of some realtek dogshit?"

[shell garden]

it's funny because the guy who has me on ignore said basically the same thing as me

but with less detail

[unborn lotus]

here our retailers ARE the scalpers 👀 plenty of stock, everything is just 200-300% extra

[cursive crypt]

Prices tend to go up. I wonder how much they will fall: 200-300% up, 100-200% down. Why sell cheap when people still buy?

[unborn lotus]

I think they stopped buying though. We're having "promotions" now. I can get a shiny new single fan 3060 for 950$ instead of 1200$

[cursive crypt]

What was the original price tho?

[unborn lotus]

400$ msrp, taxes included

[cursive crypt]

Nice.

[shell garden]

wat

[thorny dock]

you sure your not thinking of 3060 or 3070? 3060 msrp is $330 USD and 3070 is $500 USD. the 3090 is msrp of $1500 USD, you have to be lying. You can't find a 3090 anywhere for $1500, you'd be extremely lucky to find anything under $2000 USD

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-ron-burgundy-will-ferrell-anchorman-youre-lying-gif-15177693

[unborn lotus]

haha I wish. But I'm in Europe, eastern europe..sooo..it's bizarro market here. 3070 is 1800$, and guess what, 3070 Ti is cheaper, because it's low hash rate

3090s start at 3700$

I was actually thinking of getting a 3070 Ti, but all the way from Germany, where they're only 1100$. And that seems like good value

[light spruce]

IS IT ROMANIA?

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/justo-antes-de-cristo-saludo-hola-roma-romans-gif-13983968

[light spruce]

that looks like someone I would see in a bar working on his pickup game

[unborn lotus]

shit, how'd you know?

[light spruce]

Easy. I didn't. Because it's not Romania.

Yes?

[quasi mantle]

Welp, guess my (only) computer kicked the bucket.
Though I suspect it's a deteriorating thermal paste, but I think it should be shut off immediately

[light spruce]

Okay. Easy. I didn't. But when you think someone's calling your bluff, it's not necessarily a terrible strategy to challenge it.

[regal pecan]

📿

[light spruce]

Logically, there aren't too many sensible options for eastern Europe

And Romania would be pretty high on the list

[unborn lotus]

haha true. I hope you've heard good things about us

[light spruce]

I don't know that I've heard much about it at all, really. Aside from probably being the common place for "mail-order brides"

[wild smelt]

is anyone available for a little bit to help me ?

it wont take long

im in unreal hangout if anyone is free

[unborn lotus]

I've heard the same about Russia 👀

[light spruce]

The problem with Russia is that it's Russia

So it imposes barriers on your potential... "export" locations

I'm not really sure how to put that... because it pretty much sounds like human trafficking no matter what

[cursive crypt]

EEU has more countries tho than Romania.

[unborn lotus]

Is there a market for mail-order husbands though?

[cursive crypt]

I doubt it. Most husbands are sold for free and available everywhere.

[light spruce]

the gender gap is real

[quasi mantle]

I think my computer was repaired by a shitty serviceman
The thermal paste application is messy as hell

Guess I'll file for a refund

[tulip orbit]

https://i.imgur.com/bVIu1Za.png

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-ice-cream-kitty-hungry-nomnomnom-gif-10840203

[torpid star]

cat

[cursive crypt]

True

[red pewter]

https://i.imgur.com/PpoaRW2.gifv

fractal vice

looks like some messed up fish teeth thingy

[cursive crypt]

What's the idea of this?

[tulip orbit]

clamping oddly shaped objects.

would be extremely handy

[shell garden]

it's a clamp for clamping clamps

to turn them into sledgehammers

[torpid star]

but can it clamp a smaller version of itself?

[shell garden]

maybe it IS a smaller version of itself

[foggy path]

https://twitter.com/pixel_axel/status/1410199760607363075

axel (@pixel_axel)

here is dukey nukey.

Twitter · Jun 30, 2021, 11:33 AM

[cursive crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/mighty-boot-duke-nukem-kick-gif-21926506

[quasi mantle]

This looks like kidneys.

[primal spoke]

I can't believe I first played GTA 5 on an Xbox 360 almost 10 years ago. lol.

[shell garden]

when did you second play gta5?

[quasi mantle]

WDYM? GTA V is a next gen game

Even if the online is way worse than Fortnite

[shell garden]

the online gameplay is better than fortnite

the online players are worse than WoW

[median wraith]

Well technically Fortnite were announced 10 years ago

And GTAV were released for PS3 gen from what I know

[shell garden]

gtav has been ported to 3 generations of consoles

(if you can call xboxx and ps5 a new generation over xbone and ps4)

[median wraith]

When GTA V where released PS4 wasn't a thing

sorry to tell you

so yeah that isn't a next gen game

but a old old gen game

by now

2013 PS3
2014 PS4
2015 PC
2021 PS5

This will pass to the history as the most recycled/reused game by platforms

[carmine frigate]

skyrim..

[median wraith]

Well the remasters are another topic

[soft night]

Remasters HevPC

[foggy path]

Timposting https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1410028867348279300

Tim Sweeney (@TimSweeneyEpic)

My Insert key doesn’t insert, my PrtScrn key doesn’t print the screen, and my Break key seems to be broken. BUT MY CAPS LOCK KEY DELIVERS SO I HAVE THAT GOING FOR ME WHICH IS NICE.

Likes

1586

Twitter · Jun 30, 2021, 12:14 AM

[carmine frigate]

does the caps lock encapsulates now?

[quasi mantle]

YES

[soft night]

encapsulate encapsulates

[shell garden]

Guess the game character
Wealthy, educated individual with an addiction to grave-robbing goes full Predator in the jungle.
Ummm the guy from Pitfall?

[torpid star]

is this a reference to something I'm too young to understand

[shell garden]

Apparently

I have no idea what they're referring to

Does Nathan Drake ever turn invisible and skin enemies?

Could it be a gritty reboot of Jumanji?

[foggy path]

A gritty jumanji can not be as good as goofy jumanji with The Dwaynerock

[cursive crypt]

https://pilgway.com/product/3dcoattextura

They kinda split the painting as stand alone app.

[torpid star]

what dis is

[cursive crypt]

Never played with it, but might be worth competitor for mixer/sp and co

[unborn lotus]

they should split away theitr spiritual beliefs away from the app, no one cares

[cursive crypt]

Spiritual beliefs? 🤔

[unborn lotus]

We would be really happy if 3DCoat could be used to create beautiful works of art to inspire and bring joy, and not provoke hatred, violence, aggression to people, wizardry, witchcraft, addiction or carnality. We are mostly сhristian team, so this question is especially sharp for us because we know that God's law treats hatred as murder and infidelity in mind as real adultery, and consequences of our sins can influence the whole life.

[cursive crypt]

Eeh, lol

Anyway, does not seem blocking issue

[unborn lotus]

I don't know, it's too odd, and to keep that page on their site for years and years..just remove it

[cursive crypt]

It is a message, which is not bad per se. Their software, their wishes.

Doubt they banned anyone painting zombies with it.

Weird tho, I agree, lol.

It is time people start making gluten-free games.

Why nobody thinks of that, I wonder.

[torpid star]

would you like some gluten free, sugar free, lemon free, lemon squares?

lemon square free

[light spruce]

3dcoat supports a SpaceMouse which is nice

The battery health in my notebook is now down to 83%. What Am I going to do when it gets down into the 60s??//?//

[mossy nexus]

Party on dude

[pearl elk]

Well thats odd, my member list was totally screwed for a sec there

[light spruce]

how many ... members do you have??

[zinc matrix]

Stuck in analysis paralysis

[pearl elk]

I had like 1000 of the same one, I only saw 2 members 😛

[zinc matrix]

I wanna make a 2d sidescroller and have already started in UE4 but others say other engines like Unity or Godot or GMS are better for beginners

But they each have caveats

[torpid star]

no takers? :(

[zinc matrix]

Like less advanced visual scripting

[torpid star]

🍋

[zinc matrix]

chokes to death on this

But yeah

Kinda stuck

[torpid star]

mission accomplished

[pearl elk]

whats a 2d sidescroller

[zinc matrix]

Not if I come back to kill you in your dreams

[zinc matrix]

Bruh

[foggy path]

https://tenor.com/FL3J.gif

[zinc matrix]

Yep

[pearl elk]

they see me scrollin, they hatin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9qYF9DZPdw&ab_channel=alyankovicVEVO

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-mania-classic-game-sonic-loop-gif-17575499

[light spruce]

"At my fingertips, the zero day is wrapped in code like a Christmas present, then becomes an exploit, the programmatic expression of my will. -- I live for this shit."

[fathom wadi]

F

[primal spoke]

R

[bleak arch]

@low pine I should have been specific. What I meant is the visual style. It's modern now and the design is awesome. The update was smooth and I feel like it uses less resource compared to Windows 10

Had to set TPM to Firmware instead of Discrete in Bios. Without that Windows 11 update couldn't install.

[royal seal]

The amount of bloatware in Windows 11 and even less privacy settings compared to Windows 10... and also forced Microsoft account, it doesn't sound good to me

[fathom wadi]

we live in a bloated world. Even the cookies of the websites you visit are bloated with spyware. We just can't get away from it anymore

We are the product

[low pine]

@bleak arch ty for the reply 🙂 Yeaah ... might just be me, but it feels a bit that "modern" is almost "looks like MacOS" 😅 which, to me, is ... boring 😅 Also, all those TPM shenanigans don't help it a bit either 😄

[torpid star]

we 👧👮 live 👦🏻👰🏾👉🏻 in 🕺 a bloated world. 🌎 Even 🕚😛 the cookies 🍪 of the websites you 😀 visit are bloated with spyware. We 👥 just 🏻 can't 🚫😒 get 🉐 away 😌 from 🧚‍♀️ it anymore 💔 We 👯 are the product 👟👟

[fathom wadi]

😕

[low pine]

absolutely! it is disgusting! that, and emojis ... man ... can't stand it anymore... 😫

😂

[soft night]

!8ball are we the product?

[turbid spindle]

@soft night, :8ball: Yes.

[soft night]

!8ball are we emojis

[turbid spindle]

@soft night, :8ball: Don't count on it.

[low pine]

😂

[thorny dock]

Marc and Mark have been locked in a philosophical battle to the death since the beginning of time. Only 1 can rule them all. Which Mark will be victorious?

now emoji that

[fathom wadi]

[median wraith]

wtf

[mossy nexus]

!8ball meh

[turbid spindle]

@mossy nexus, :8ball: Most likely.

[humble remnant]

[median wraith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S19T_j1CFSQ&ab_channel=Hunt%3AShowdown tbh this video is kinda cool

[humble remnant]

At the back?

I believe that depends on the motherboard, not the case

[humble remnant]

The case usually only offers USBs at the front or at the top, usually near the power button

At the back, it depends on the motherboard's rear IO

That motherboard has this connectivity that's gonna end up on the back of your case

7 USB-As, 1 USB-C

[sinful delta]

o_O

[humble remnant]

"Verify your account by leaving a review on the marketplace"

That's already sus as hell

[quasi mantle]

Why even bother lmao
If someone purchased the asset, they know what to ask. Otherwise what's the point of verification? Anti-piracy? It's not like UE Marketplace piracy is as rampant (and tolerable) as Blender addons.

True shit: Under GPL clause, Blender addon piracy is justified.

[sinful delta]

I think it's for anti-piracy yes

the asset is a $400 blueprint multiplayer thing

I have no idea how I even ended up there

still, I like the "leave a good review or no support" angle. gotta try that

then intentionally make my stuff hard to use

this is absolute genius

[humble remnant]

"But you already bought it, sucker"

[humble remnant]

Tradeoffs of open source

[sinful delta]

"free as in god will make you feel bad at church if you don't tithe"

[quasi mantle]

I hate anti-piracy (and DRM).
If someone's gotta pirate my shit, then so what. If they're happy, they'll eventually buy it. Even if they're not buying it, it's none of my concern.

[sinful delta]

yeah, I went on one of the pages hosting a torrent of my assets and told them they could come to my marketplace page for support

[humble remnant]

I think the concern is more that they could have bought it but now it's pirated

[sinful delta]

I just want people to enjoy it

[humble remnant]

But some DRM is insufferable

Denuvo and Creative Cloud come to mind

[quasi mantle]

This doesn't concern me in the slightest.
If anything, DRM and antipiracy measures either fail before prime time, or backfired on legitimate users.

[humble remnant]

I can agree there

[quasi mantle]

To me, those pirates are lost cause.

[humble remnant]

I actually have a case where DRM screwed me over

There's this game, Prototype, that I bought like 12 years ago for near full price

But the DRM is you have to insert DVD

1: My main PC doesn't have a DVD drive
2: The DVD is nearly defunct anyway so I essentially have a limited time to play

And by nearly defunct I mean like 1 MB/s read speed at most

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, CD based DRM sucked hard and didn't age well.

[humble remnant]

I started just copying the CDs/DVDs to a hard-drive just so I'm sure that I actually have them saved

[quasi mantle]

Even some publishers like Ubisoft take the L and make No CD cracks official endorsement.

[humble remnant]

And one thing I'll say, that's hella grey area

On one side, I own the CD, and I should be able to use it as I will, and also I've bought the product, I'd like to use it

On another side, it's borderline

Y'know

[quasi mantle]

If you own it, you have the right to patch the CD DRM.

[humble remnant]

Yeah

At the end of the day I bought the game, I didn't purchase a temporary license

Although the industry has been going towards that and I fucking hate it

MMOs, I can accept it, the servers are a bastard and there's constant support to be offered

But my ancient retail copy of Unreal Gold shouldn't be revoked

[spare glade]

Talking about Piracy in the Server isnt technically against the #rules but you are certainly walking a fine line.

He isnt encouraging piracy at all, he is only stating his opinion.

I would however warn everyone that you take extra care when deciding to engage in this type of topic.

[quasi mantle]

There used to be free promo for Unreal Gold on Steam/GOG back in Unreal anniversary.

[tall plume]

also, it's not piracy to download a blender addon since blender is GPL

[humble remnant]

I know, I got both, I was just trying to give an example

And I also have a retail copy, for good measure

[tall plume]

from blender's own page

it's not shady at all

https://www.blender.org/about/license/

[humble remnant]

The price you pay for open source

Simple as that

[tall plume]

when it comes to blender addons specifically, sharing them is not piracy

if the author of the addon were to prevent the distribution of their addon's source, that would be a license violation and copyright infringement on the addon creator's part

GPL is a parasitic license

this, btw, is true for anything under GPL

[quasi mantle]

Which is why Unreal Engine's terms specifically disallows GPL licencing (IIRC Creative Commons as well)

[tall plume]

UE's marketplace terms do

and distribution agreements

but not UE itself

you can use GPL'd code in an unreal engine game so long as you conform to the GPL requirement (and that means your game best be open source!)

this is why there is a joke "GPL if you want your code to be open source, MIT if you want anyone to use it"

GPL is a great license for very specific use cases

and the rules around GPL are extremely important to know

it's not piracy

like, straight up

piracy implies copyright infringement

yeah, the licenses specifically states that it's not, so it literally cant 😛

the word "pirating" here is a poor term because it really doesn't apply

"redistributing open source works" is encouraged

not piracy 😛

that being said, support addon developers

even open source ones

give them money because if they saved you even an hour of work, they extremely deserve it

[humble remnant]

Hey

An hour of work is a solid sum of money

[tall plume]

it is!

for a mid level artist, thats like 60-70 bucks!

[low pine]

especially open source ones, if you can

[tall plume]

well, in this case all blender addons are open source but yes i 100% agree

[regal pecan]

Is a Blender addon still open source if it's never been distributed?

(arguing about a tree falling in the forest could finally pay dividends)

[quasi mantle]

If you're not distributing it in any shape or form, who's going to care?

[fervent wagon]

Is it me, or Epic is about to release Android/IOS competing consumer hardware? Maybe a collaboration with M$? Just saying.

[quasi mantle]

Not even close. Distro platform, yes, but hardware, nope.

[fervent wagon]

Tim's tweets make it sound like they are about to TBH.

But maybe i'm just seeing things where there aren't any.

[quasi mantle]

Tim Sweeney's rants mainly about how locked down mobile environment is in recent years, disallowing third party app distros (FOSS and Homebrew projects included) and per-app policies.

[fervent wagon]

Yeah, and he ranted about Steam 1 year before EGS came to be.

[quasi mantle]

And neither Steam nor EGS are separate operating systems. Both are just ways for applications to be distributed, that's all.

It's like all the implications of storefront is that different storefront = entirely different OS

Both runs under Windows and Mac OS (and tbf Apple kind of making the desktops their pet projects, and Macs are terrible for gaming anyway)

[soft night]

well I have put some pressure to mobile and some noted on platforms that there is Windows Phone listed

[fervent wagon]

Yeah and WPhone is now more viable than ever, now that Windows supports APK.

[soft night]

via Amazon Playstore

google seems to close more of APK stuff

[quasi mantle]

I'd wager not in a long shot, seeing how Google tries to abandon APK, and Amazon Play Store still piggybacks on Google Play Store.

Also Amazon Play Store is practically powerless, because of how mobile game landscape works.

Twitter seems to be broken now

[tulip orbit]

works fine for me

[quasi mantle]

The web app is broken

Mobile app runs just fine

[dense storm]

http://www.thegames.dev/snaps/setup_G6rjSeYTWM.png

gonna try vs 2022 😄

[tulip orbit]

I dont use the apps

[dense storm]

Twitter down?

omg, the world is going to fall apart

[quasi mantle]

I can't see ero fanarts 😦

And it's not down as in completely inaccessible. It's just that posts and profiles have trouble loading.

[cursive crypt]

You just wanted to show off that sweet 100 MB / sec download speed, admit 🤔

[trail wedge]

is 100 MB/s fast where you are? some places here have 1 Gbps connections

[cursive crypt]

8-10 for international download is considered quite good already, home use btw.

[quasi mantle]

1 Gbps != 1 GB/s

[cursive crypt]

Have to align on the, is it bits / sec or bytes / sec tho

[quasi mantle]

In many many cases, 1 Gbps is the theoretical maximum bandwidth for a network line, not necessarily the internet connection speed.
Though it is matter when dealing with LAN file transfers.

[trail wedge]

I am aware, but it doesn't change my point

[trail wedge]

also aware of this, just saying you can get well over 100MBps on a 1Gbps line

also aware that it matters what the upload bandwidth of the server you are connecting to allocates you 🙂

[quasi mantle]

Imagine if the internet speed exceeds 7200 RPM HDD I/O speed

[regal pecan]

I am confused. Is 25% faster that important?

[trail wedge]

no none of this is imporant this is lounge 🙂

[quasi mantle]

Depends on the relative yield

[regal pecan]

I recently discovered that modems can advertise the speed of the DOCSIS standard it's compatible with, even if the modem itself cannot achieve those speeds by design.

[trail wedge]

I was just joking to begin with you know right?

[regal pecan]

Front of box: DOCSIS 3.1! 10 Gbps!
Back of box: One 1 Gbps ethernet port.

[pearl elk]

So you plug your PC into all ethernet ports and use the dual band wifi all merged to a single connection 😜

[shell garden]

10 gigabits per second of dos

[regal pecan]

Plug all of that into your router, which then plugs into this sad little PoS:
https://www.netgear.com/home/wifi/modems/cm1000/

[quasi mantle]

Is this PlayStation 5 Slim?

[regal pecan]

"DOCSIS® 3.1 provides up to 10X faster download speeds than DOCSIS® 3.0 ‡ "

[cursive crypt]

I'm selling software which can improve your net speeds up to 25% and also boosts with 100% your connection reliability.

[quasi mantle]

Except Cloudflare did it with 1.1.1.1, and for cheap too, if you're subscribing to Warp Plus.

[light spruce]

DOCSIS 3.1 is about bonded channel frequency

of course.. they won't give you any extra upstream with that frequency range

I'd rather have something that matched my half-width rackmount switch instead of some tron dogshit... but that's the cable modem that I've got

[stoic turtle]

I just read that windows 11 will be exclusive to 8th gen cpu and beyond , 7th gen cpu won’t have it , not sure if correct

[light spruce]

anything with a uefi-level or hardware TPM

even the board I have for my old Ryzen 7 1700X has that option

also subject to change

[quasi mantle]

Incorrect, but still subject to change.
My 6th gen Intel CPU runs Windows 11, at least the leaked build one (and somehow carry over my Windows 10 key)

[foggy path]

I don't know what get a 6900K is

But if it's not supported then I just won't get win11, simple as that

:P

[cursive crypt]

Even if ppl lack the hardware, bet they won't miss so much win 11.

Saw today someone made it run on 6 years old Lumia phone.

[stoic turtle]

Idk Its trending that Microsoft confirmed blocking upgrade for pre 8th gen for security reasons

And its not recommended to be installed on

[cursive crypt]

That the TPM likely.

[foggy path]

You have until 2035 to upgrade anyway before win10 support goes away ¯_(ツ)_/¯

or whatever it was

[cursive crypt]

Corps want you have that hw rand device so they can control your life.

[cursive crypt]

Ayo, that 10y error, lol

2025

[foggy path]

really, it was just 25?

that's a very short support span for an OS

[cursive crypt]

Yes, kinda soonish

Well, when they released it tho?

2015?

Idk

[foggy path]

pretty sure they supported a bunch of stuff much longer but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cursive crypt]

I think stuff changed with win10. They want you always up-to-date.

So, the likely prolong because enterprise.

We were win7 up until recently, lol. Or maybe even still 🤔

[stoic turtle]

Yes the article mentions tpm idk whats tpm tho

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/29/22555371/microsoft-windows-11-cpu-support-hardware-requirements-tpm-response

[cursive crypt]

What I said up is. Hardware chip which provides crypto services.

By crypto, I don't mean crypto currencies, lmao

[stoic turtle]

Yeah got it , i don’t think that justifies the block they can just minimize some features

[light spruce]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module

It absolutely does.

Because they're trying to shore up the security side of things... and they can't do everything that they actually need to do on that front

[foggy path]

this was an interesting perspective on it https://secret.club/2021/06/28/windows11-tpms.html

Frankly I'm inclined to agree it has more to do with this than anything else

[light spruce]

I'm already biased based on the title

[cursive crypt]

Good.

Have to check whether my mobo supports it meanwhile.

[light spruce]

And the start of it isn't doing much to dissuade me of my assumption that this is going to be a bullshit read

[cursive crypt]

But have you seen the ads?

[light spruce]

I'm a selfish piece of shit that doesn't see ads

Alternatively, I actively avoid malware vectors which is what ads are because they're so poorly vetted and managed

[cursive crypt]

tch tch tch... thinking only for yourself

[light spruce]

"we will remind you that Microsoft always sold this tyranny to look great on the surface"

[foggy path]

I'm still waiting for someone to insert malware into ads produced using the tools I build at work lol

[light spruce]

Yep. I'm done reading right there

[foggy path]

lol

[stoic turtle]

Eh , windows 11 wasn’t expected anyway , it came out of no where

To take some spotlights while apple is cooking M1 and other advancements

[foggy path]

Secret Club is a hacker collective of sorts so of course it's a bit biased in that sense

But I think they're absolutely on the right track that it's more of a DRM measure than anything, especially given the evidence that they don't really need it for anything else

[regal pecan]

Hackers using windows? What?

[light spruce]

I'm surprised they didn't manage to work an M$ into the first sentence... maybe even the title. That way I would have known I didn't need to read any of it

[foggy path]

Whether it be a game or a movie, a vendor of consumable media decides what users they trust with their content. Unfortunately, without a TPM, you aren’t cutting it.

that's the key takeaway from it imo

[cursive crypt]

Haven't dug, but my blind guess would be the same.

[light spruce]

You know what I've learned between the combination of self-awareness and being an asshole?

[cursive crypt]

Sounds like wise ass.

[light spruce]

The message doesn't matter if you sound like a self-righteous prick when you deliver it

[cursive crypt]

Many ppl buy it tho. I mean, politicians e.g.

Pastors, influencers, etc.

[regal pecan]

That's fine. They're all so reprehensible I'd be boycotting them if I could afford their services.

[light spruce]

You mean the people who inherently and purposefully use bullshit language in order to buy influence with people who don't know any better?

[cursive crypt]

lol, yea

If anything, past year made many ppl aware of their neighbours.

[light spruce]

Yeah. Not a group to emulate if you actually give a shit and want to have credibility.

[cursive crypt]

I agree, but numbers say otherwise.

They are not small group.

[light spruce]

I'm fully aware of pot/kettle happening here... but if you can't make a valid point based solely on the merits without resorting to tossing around bullshit like "tyranny" then you need to shut the fuck up because it doesn't matter how right you are.

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, but at the end the mass is what matters. Or the group of ppl who fall for these words.

[foggy path]

You should keep in mind that most folks who write pieces like this aren't actually experienced authors

They aren't necessarily aware of the style they're writing in... but to be fair, it's entirely likely that they just don't like microsoft so they put those in lol

[cursive crypt]

On side note, f Adobe

[foggy path]

it's pretty clear they're heavily anti-DRM and since this whole tech seems to revolve around DRM...

[light spruce]

Hence why I said they should shut the fuck up

[foggy path]

Yeah saying that is a good way to shut down otherwise legitimate research just because they authors let their personal feelings leak through a bit :P

[light spruce]

It undermines their entire point

[foggy path]

Maybe for you

[light spruce]

Because proper research should be impartial. It's about facts. Not how you feel about it.

That's how science and research work

[regal pecan]

It's not a whitepaper.

[foggy path]

Yeah this is what you get when people who aren't trained in research publications write stuff

You can't just say that all amateurs should never write anything

It's a flawed article in some ways, but that doesn't mean it's worthless

[cursive crypt]

Articles have different level of expertise, as on the matter of the topic so in the matter of writing.

Sometimes tho, it is just clear cherry-picking just to achieve a certain effect.

[light spruce]

The agenda is clear right out of the gate that it's not about educating anyone about the potential pitfalls

[foggy path]

You're the only person I've seen who gets upset about microsoft bashing tbh

[cursive crypt]

Like once went in a talk with some dude who was convinced Epic is ruining the gamers and is evil corp.
His source was some article which cleverly re-arranged and put words around some of the Tim's announcement.
Totally different effect.

[foggy path]

:P

[light spruce]

That's because, surprisingly, I don't actually have my head up my ass

[cursive crypt]

insert rand() joke

[foggy path]

Well either way, they cite microsoft's on statistics and figures later in it, and point out they're false, and that the attacks TPM supposedly mitigates are extremely rare, and existing tech other than TPM's virtually eliminates it

but of course that comes after the vitriol

lol

[light spruce]

Yeah.. maybe they should have led with that then

It's like how I'll never take anyone seriously if they drop an M dollar-sign in their argument

I've been around a long time and seen a lot of dumb shit

[foggy path]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f7/Microshaft_Winblows_98_front_cover.jpg

[light spruce]

People will champion one corporation, damn another.... say that everyone should Linux, but only with 100% free and open source software while completely ignoring reality

You see dipshits roll up in here and think that dunking on Unity devs makes them cool or edgy or whatever. It's the same kinda stupid shit

[regal pecan]

With TPMs, Microsoft M$ can now let you use that unregistered copy of Windows while also knowing it's a genuine and up-to-date version of Windows.

Whereas before they could let you use that unregistered copy of Windows while ... knowing it's almost certainly a genuine and up-to-date version of Windows.

The year is 2022. Society has collapsed from the weight of revelations that Microsoft M$'s real motivation to enforce TPMs was because CEO Satya Nadella had a fetish for true random number generation.

[light spruce]

I'm not sorry that I prefer my technical merits without inflammatory bullshit.

[foggy path]

Critical OS theory

[shell garden]

wow that's a lot of pretending that's what TPMs are for or can do

[regal pecan]

That was as literal an example of remote attestation as I could come up with on a minute's notice.

[shell garden]

yah i get what you're going for at least

thing is, the win11 with mandatory TPMs is as of yet a LEAKED copy

and i'm way more than cynical enough to suggest that it was deliberately leaked with mandatory TPMs so they can lock out certain types of piracy, or at the very least as part of a wider data collection/usage tracking program

my bet is that the rEtAiL release will not require TPMs

[fluid bloom]

isn't TPM just a store for keys?

[shell garden]

https://tenor.com/view/shhh-shush-quiet-gif-8316632

[regal pecan]

The TPM is mostly redundant. It's useful if you want to verify anonymous hardware data. If you're spying, you don't want it to be anonymous in the first place.

[shell garden]

the mandatory TPM thing is burying the lede though

mandatory TPM implies mandatory secure boot

they've tried mandatory secure boot in a beta release before

that wasn't even a leak. it was a genuine beta

they are once again trying to make it difficult for you to EVER use anything other than their shitty OS

[regal pecan]

M$: Your hardware configuration has been modified. Continue? (Y/N)
User: Y
M$: Damn it, not again!

[shell garden]

yah, they tried that multiple times too

technically microsoft has been trying that since bill gates first wrote a letter about how opensource is the devil and will bring about the apocalypse

[torpid star]

> Introduce new Windows version while having said that Windows 10 is going to be the last windows. Don't even acknowledge what you said.
> Make the new OS only work on select CPU's under the pretense of security. Making the OS not work on the majority of currently available devices, even the newer ones.
> Engineer points out it's not a security related change.
> Receive backlash due to absurdity of change.
> Backtrack.

Classic Microsoft move.

[regal pecan]

I feel like they don't know why they're doing it, because if they did they wouldn't backtrack and instead charge ahead.

[quasi mantle]

MICHAELSHAFT BINBOWS is way better

[pearl elk]

you guys act like you never seen the release of a new Windows version before

[shell garden]

isn't that what i said?

[pearl elk]

No idea, I didnt read anything past the last few messages

[shell garden]

well then it is exactly what i said

[pearl elk]

yay glad we said the same thing

shall we talk about you some more?

[shell garden]

yes

[turbid spindle]

:triangular_flag_on_post: stucki#5800 received strike 2. As a result, they were muted for 1 hour.

[fluid bloom]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hulu-cbs-sabrina-the-teenage-witch-3o7TKwmnDgQb5jemjK

[quasi mantle]

What did I miss?

[deep glen]

different channel, multiposting stuff.
just used this one to give the person the strike