it's Vive Con. Where they con you out of your Vive.
#lounge
ivory lodge
I really don't know what that is.
fathom wadi
wow Warweasle where do you live? The Moon? ๐
supposedly HTC are announcing a revolutionary new VR system today.
cursive crypt
Well, sounds to me like the next step. Maybe in one or two steps more I will jump on the train too.
fathom wadi
seriously, take any headset these days and add a pair of Index Controllers and you are winning. I used VR since the DK1 and it wasn't until I got index that it even felt like fun.
Im still using a Vive Pre developer headset too
ivory lodge
I wish I lived on the moon. Then people wouldn't be mess'n with meh robot daughters.
fathom wadi
futurama reference?
ivory lodge
Yup.
tulip orbit
A reference, and the best type of reference
ancient hornet
foggy path
https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/10/22429267/epic-v-apple-fortnite-app-store-trial-peely-day-6 so apparently this happened...
fathom wadi
LOL I tried to setup an account to buy some crypto. The arseholes are gonna take 5 days to verify the account before I can but it.
what kind of second rate system is that?
foggy path
Apparently there's quite long queues in those atm
on Kraken which is the exchange I use you can buy without verification if I remember correctly, but you can't transfer any real money into the account without some form of verification
they verified me pretty quickly back when I created my account but that was years ago
fathom wadi
It's just silly. I gave them a photo, a passport, a driving license, SMS verification and email verification.
not to mention my bank card to buy the crypto from directly.
quasi mantle
https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/10/22429267/epic-v-apple-fortnite-app-store-tria...
Apple needs to lose this lawsuit already.
fathom wadi
oh thats another thing. They want a facial recognition from their phone app and my phone doesn't support the app.
foggy path
oh thats another thing. They want a facial recognition from their phone app and ...
find another exchange, that one sounds like shit lol
not really sure what are the good ones for US based users
foggy path
ah
maybe try Kraken? they're european and have a pretty good safety track record afaik
fathom wadi
ill check it out cheers
cursive crypt
How are actually crypto <-> real money exchanged btw? ๐ค
I mean, you just buy with your card and when you sell through an app, you just get some money back in your card?
fathom wadi
yep
cursive crypt
Huh, I heard that banks and etc. are kinda against.
foggy path
I've not heard of any issues with that at least in europe
Kraken works via SEPA bank transfers
cursive crypt
Not familiar with these, but okay.
foggy path
SEPA transfers can be sent between most european banks afaik
so if I want to send some money to my Kraken account, I'll just send a regular bank transfer from my bank account to theirs
cursive crypt
df, happened with the reactions, lol
fathom wadi
Natwest, which is the only bank I am allowed to use apparently, recently stated they wouldn't trade with companies who traded in crypto. Which is probably because the BofE is gonna make it's own "secure britcoin" soon.
foggy path
Oh ๐ค
fathom wadi
lol Im not having much luck with getting verified. Im gonna have to get some new ID I think.
foggy path
Looks like if you want to deposit GBP's into Kraken, it works via a wire transfer to Bank Frick which is a swiss bank used by Kraken
fathom wadi
I think I'm just destined never to be able to make money. Money is a curse to me
foggy path
lol
just start investing into funds, it's not gonna make you rich overnight but it's something
fathom wadi
Im just having a punt on dogecoin tbh. I dont have investment money.
cursive crypt
There are kinda tons of apps for these too. Also kinda important which one, as they trade on different places and companies you are interested in might not be there.
foggy path
Yeah doge's in an interesting spot... it took a big dive after Elon's SNL appearance from 0.7 to 0.45, now it's around 0.5 USD
fathom wadi
what really irks me is I thought crypto was meant to be anonymous. These sites want to check my anus for identifying marks.
foggy path
Yeah that's just the legal requirements for these businesses to exist
You can go to some shadier exchange, sure
fathom wadi
well I wouldn't go that far unless I was buying illegal stuff but Im not.... yet ๐
foggy path
there used to be a couple which were rumored to be used for laundering, I think at least one was busted
cursive crypt
I think money laundering likes these cryptos ๐ค
fathom wadi
you know what else is good for money laundering. Real currency.
cursive crypt
That old school.
foggy path
the way they do it with crypto is they send the money through several accounts which are used for sending cryptos into various targets, so they can't track whose cryptos are going to which account
that's why exchanges would work well for laundering, since they have a lot of traffic to and from their wallets
fathom wadi
heh i went to get a new uk ID card and they want ยฃ15 for it.
I checked the UK gov site and they aren't even valid. They scrapped the validity in 2011. So now they want you to have a passport for ID, which costs ยฃ90 :/
fathom wadi
I dont have a drivers license tho
foggy path
Ah :P
fathom wadi
that would cost me a grand at least from lessons
foggy path
was curious and checked what the prices are for ID and such... looks like it's around 55 eur
fathom wadi
it's only ยฃ20. Im broke AF.
median wraith
I dont have a drivers license tho
hows that ?
I don't use it, can send it to you
๐
median wraith
hahah
It costed me like 2000โฌ here
the whole driving license + ID + Test
they do you a physiologic and physical test
then you can go the written exam
that cost 100โฌ each time yo go
another 50โฌ to the test
and then its like 500โฌ each time you go to the driving test
light spruce
Do they give you a handjob at some point in this process?
median wraith
I paid 2000โฌ because each driving class comes at the cost of 100โฌ or so
driving for 1h = 100โฌ
never used a car before so
median wraith
Do they give you a handjob at some point in this process?
lol
foggy path
yeah it was like 1500 eur or something when I got mine
but it's been getting more expensive here too
probably around 2k now as well
median wraith
yeah they don't want you to get a car
plus here are removing driving lanes
now they will set a tax for each road
light spruce
I could probably take race lessons for less than that
median wraith
in spain we didn't paid for high speed roads before
it came with the taxes payment of each citizen
you only paid the top tier high speed roads with 2 to 4 lanes
each x km
now we will pay every kind of high speed road
light spruce
toll roads are an abomination and should not exist in any country where taxes are collected to pay for infrastructure
median wraith
well they claimed the rest of europe pays as France for middle range roads, so they will charge us for it
fathom wadi
The roads in Spain were the worst I have ever been on. I always felt like I was gonna crash at any moment and there were rarely any safety crash barriers. Just some drop off or rough land that would flip you over.
median wraith
except my country is kinda more poor than France and north europe but they don't care
median wraith
The roads in Spain were the worst I have ever been on. I always felt like I was...
That depends what roads you was at
fathom wadi
obviously. Nowhere near any cities.
median wraith
the overall high speed ones are decent but yeah secondary ones and based on the location are mediocre at best
as the city ones don't even have paint in some cases
fathom wadi
Just had the Vive announcement. The Vive Focus 3. It's a 5K screen @ 90hz. 120deg FOV.
but its dual 2.5k screens obv
tulip orbit
oooh
light spruce
Of course.. getting anything to run it ...
median wraith
obviously. Nowhere near any cities.
they say in UK the top sold car is the Ford Fiesta etc, what you have to say to that ?
fathom wadi
its designed more for business than home use so it should be fine
median wraith
Well I didn't wanted to tag that actual message but you lol
fathom wadi
its wireless though (cant tell if it's standalone yet) so latency is still an issue.
its using AI powered inside-out trcking
the controllers are still shit tho
I dont understand why they still develop these minimal wand based controllers. It's so old hat now. Index controllers should have changed the game across the board. And Quest's hand tracking even further.
hmm looks like it's both standalone and supports streaming from a pc.
foggy path
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1Hr-2BVkAETdxM?format=png&name=large did HTC finally give up on those weird track pad things
foggy path
Yeah I mean didn't they use to have a trackpad thingy instead of the stick like on those new ones
fathom wadi
yeah they switched from them with the Focus
foggy path
Ah
fathom wadi
also those wands can be used as Vive Trackers, and they didn't want people to use them for that I guess as they sell the trackers for ยฃ120 a pop
man I'm done with that Vivecon already. Talk about underwhelming.
median wraith
any good news about ?
fathom wadi
no
overhyped it and although it's not entirely crap, it's nothing "revolutionary" as they stated. It's just another headset with crappy controllers.
normal prism
foggy path
It sounded like Apple tried to imply that without clothes it was inappropriate
median wraith
uhm... what is inappropriate with the banana man?
Suggestive content for vegans
foggy path
but Epic thought wiser to make sure everyone saw it was a regular banana :P
cursive crypt
Wasn't there one old cartoon with fruits, the banana man there got only a backpack.
median wraith
the other day they talked about the +18 games from itch
claiming Epic were selling porn
soft night
look like it is the minions
median wraith
there was a banana guy back in 2008 COD4 modding days
humble remnant
Epic: "Gib better cut"
Apple: "But you have pr0nz on your platform"
light spruce
I hate everyone in this lawsuit
median wraith
Apple: "Why the gamepad vibrates, whats the actual purpose ?"
fathom wadi
That banana isn't nude. The stupid child labour instigating fucks don't understand it's wearing a banana peel.
median wraith
Imagine all the other citizens waiting their law turn to be judged while Apple is talking about bananas etc
fathom wadi
I can;t believe Apple got court time whilst they are also being sued for using child labour in the Congo, where children died in mines and they didn't collect the bodies, they just filled in the holes.
just sayin'
median wraith
Everything this world is nice
light spruce
I want to watch the world burn, but not like this.
fathom wadi
usually the one's with the torch in hand. Not the ones who want utopia
bright cairn
cursive crypt
Too dumb to figure it out, sorry.
humble remnant
fathom wadi
ivory lodge
Meh...want to go home...
Yesterday I had to deal with life stuff and ended up exhausted.
rapid magnet
is there a formula to calculate the bitrate of a video encoding given the width, height, and framerate?
ivory lodge
Only in general. Different streams compress better than others.
rapid magnet
yeah general is fine, I'm using this: VideoWidth * VideoHeight * TargetFrameRate / 15.0f but it only work with 1920x1080x60fps
higher resolution/framerate causes artifact
ivory lodge
Also, are you using 24 or 32 bit pixels?
rapid magnet
32
ivory lodge
So all those numbers multiplied should give you bytes per second.. Mult by 8 to get bps. And that's your worse case if you are encoding it.
rapid magnet
I'm using the wmf to encode unreal frames to a video file, h264 mp4 format if relevant
ivory lodge
I don't know enough. I only remember my information classes from the 90s.
Testing is the only true way of knowing.
rapid magnet
yeah, that's what i'm having issue with, the bruteforce formula above doesn't work (producing artifact) with all cases
ivory lodge
Then it might not be the band with. Maybe there is an encoding delay.
fathom wadi
there is a new media framework that might have some of that information available but the old system was quite limited.
ivory lodge
Have you tried switching to a single player game? That gets rid of those unwanted other players.
Like Goat Simulator's MMO RPG simulator.
It's like playing with other players, including griefing, quests, and random chatter. Kek.
median wraith
wait nvidia said there won't be stock until end of year ?
fathom wadi
just pretend they never released it
fresh heath
Oculus Quest 2 is really nifty
Oculus doesn't have regional prices in their store, unfortunately
Steam is way cheaper
Looks like I'll be playing everything through the cable rather than natively
ivory lodge
Finally home and working on my own stuff...
ivory lodge
Great. I bought a bunch of animations from gumroad and I can't import them directly into my projects because they have no root track.
pearl elk
so they need to be rooted for em to work
On the topic of naked fruit though, isnt Apples logo in the buff too?
ivory lodge
I think you mixed up discord and tinder.
quasi mantle
New Discord update.
pearl elk
such rounded corner
foggy path
nice emote barely visible on that new bg :P
hah you really think they'll let you tweak their carefully selected design
:P
pearl elk
jeebus the blueprint crashes are real today, 4th one in 20 mins
foggy path
No and I don't think it'll ever be a thing considering they'll ban you just for using a custom client
I never get bored of these stupid picture and tagline combinations my game produces lol
I need to look some more into being able to generate these on AWS because I really want to make a twitter bot that just posts these
foggy path
For a moment I thought that was Stormworks lol
humble remnant
That's 100% a UT level
pearl elk
its DM-Rankin, scaled down slightly
fathom wadi
Someone once made a map for me with UT. Not sure why but I was flattered.
pearl elk
no Halloween events
and it needs skin gambling
movement also looks bit simplistic compared to Apex ๐
its amazing how not "comp" Quake 2 feels like
was playing Q2 RTX last night ๐
and I totally suck at UT2004 now lol
from what I hear CoD Warzone players wish they had CPMA skins
fathom wadi
last time I played UT3 I rocked it. Which made the bots really unhappy.
foggy path
lol
I have a 45x40cm mat :P
and I don't feel any slower than I did 10 years ago ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
still rekt noobs in cod last time I played lol
high accel
some kind of crazy person playing with mouse acceleration lol
fathom wadi
I don't play them much because I need to put my face right upto the monitor to see. Also the battle royale games require you shoot a pixel's worth from 150m. Last I played UT3 I actually played it with my VR headset on and Big Picture mode. Just so I could see more.
foggy path
eeeehhh
:D
considering no pros play like that I find it doubtful
I mean yeah you can get accuracy with it sure but if you need to flick fast then you're suddenly flicking way somewhere else
unless you set up the acceleration curves in a very specific way which is only doable with certain mice afaik
it's probably less so of a problem in games like quake where pixel perfect accuracy is less of a thing
fathom wadi
windows sens. 1.0. Mouse DPI 4000. In game sensitivity 1.0 Do a full 180 in a flick of a wrist. Screw these mega-mat swinging flickshot abusing bastards !
pearl elk
I get a sore elbow just watching this guy play
foggy path
I think it takes 20cm or so to do 180 with my mouse sensitivity
keyboard for scale lol
and yeah I guess some still do but I don't think any of those guys are tier1 players
although I guess autimatic with c9 would've been at the time
pearl elk
I got this cool thing on my g502 if I grip it I get the aim sensitivity button
foggy path
frankly I still think that it's easier with a constant linear sensitivity
given that it's such a tiny fraction of the players who use acceleration
and yeah I had that on my G502 too but I never used it :P
pearl elk
its not bad, probably more useful for upping the sensitivity for flick shots than the reverse though
foggy path
I've actually heard some CS pro's bind left and right turning into keys because their mouse sens is so low lol
I dunno, at least to me it feels like unless you've somehow memorized the higher sensitivity in addition to your regular sensitivity you'll never hit that flick :D
pearl elk
I play at 3 sensitivities so Im alright lol
if Im hyped on caffine its full speed
1800-2400 anywhere in there Im fine
foggy path
yeah muscle memory except instead of memorizing one you memorize two or more if you use acceleration without very specific curves
fathom wadi
CS pros make too big a thing about their configs. It's all subjective and yet people look at those configs like they are the magic sauce that makes them win. It's not. It's purely about peripheral vision, reaction times, awareness and more practice than you can eat.
foggy path
need pretty high dexterity already with one if you want to be good, seems like it just ups the requirements even higher if you use multiple sensitivities
I don't think configs matter much but the sensitivity question does
fathom wadi
those aim training levels are fun, but they only train you to get the right sensitivity for you. Often you can't possibly do what you see others do. There is a natural millisecond reaction time.
foggy path
Using a pro's configs is a good baseline so you don't have to think about it though which I think is good
fathom wadi
back in the day a good config just exploited the netcode mostly.
foggy path
@zinc matrix yeah I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just questioning whether it's easier to just do what the majority is doing
there's a reason why a lot of CS pro's use low sensitivity - it's literally a thing with how muscles work
it's harder to perform small precise motions compared to larger motions, hence low sensitivity makes sense if you need precision
fathom wadi
I remember going to a lan and playing FCC. I went over after the match (they won but only just) and one of the "star players" had different models installed that filled the mesh to the size of the hitbox. I said "what TF is this hax?" and he said "wait... this is hax?" and I was like... erm... yeah.
pearl elk
TF2 in the early days if the server had wait command on then CFG was everything
foggy path
and yes, people are different, but it also doesn't mean that you wouldn't get good faster if you pick something that works with how your muscles and such work :D
fathom wadi
yeah its all about sensitivity setting and sticking with it for muscle memory. Then you are only reliant on your reaction times
providing you know the game of course.
quasi mantle
Doom speedrunner with SR50 hands looking from the distance
fathom wadi
Internet based Counterstrike is a bit of a config battle at times but thats purely down to how you set interp and rates and how it interacts with the netcode based on the ping differences. I've always said the game only truly works on a LAN with even pings.
foggy path
ex_interp 0 masterrace 
fathom wadi
๐
foggy path
the pro trick in Day of Defeat 1.3 was binding stopsound
it would stop all sounds that were currently playing including all background noise lol
made hearing footsteps so much easier :D
fathom wadi
I remember getting a hax config from a top CS clan once. It was literally a free win on public servers ๐
foggy path
I cheated in CS for shits and giggles a few times
mostly also to see how the cheats actually worked
this was in the 1.0 days pre-VAC
back then you could actually use a speedhack that would make you run so fast you barely could even control where you went lol
fathom wadi
I never cheated once. The only time I ever cheated in a game was at the tail end of my Diablo 2 run. I setup a Pindlebot and left it running overnight. Woke up next day, it hadn't drop anything good so I uninstalled the game.
foggy path
lol
fathom wadi
yeah speedhacks in CS were harsh. Flat out ruined the game. With a good botter/wallhacker you at least had to try catch them blatent. But speedhack was auto-blatent ๐
foggy path
Yeah
Cheating-Death and such did a decent job with keeping cheats out for a while at least
although later I moved mostly to playing dod 1.3 and I was an admin at some servers so I could just kick cheaters myself lol
pearl elk
these days the coaches just cheat instead ๐
foggy path
lol yeah that coach spectator glitch... such a joke
pearl elk
I wonder if Valve will ever release TF3
foggy path
good question, has there been any talk of TF3?
I don't recall hearing anything about such a project
pearl elk
Its Valve, they dont talk about much at all these days
too busy counting money
Valve Founder Newell Teases Console News
pearl elk
what you guys dont have consoles ๐
fathom wadi
I used to have a PS4 but then my wife started using it and I've not used it since.
foggy path
I have a SNES Classic Mini does that count
fathom wadi
the only good thing I ever saw at a Blizzcon was Tenacious D.
pearl elk
Bioware, Blizzard... Valve... Who's next ๐
foggy path
I kinda wanna collect some CIB retro console stuff but that shit's just real expensive
fathom wadi
"Do you guys not have phones?"
"No sir I don't support child labour, nor Blizzard anymore. Good day. I SAID GOOD DAY SIR"
pearl elk
It not the fact the game is on a phone is the problem, its the design mechanics which come with that
unfortunately you could make an amazing game which doesnt gouge but its not going to get recommended cuz the store dont get as much from you
foggy path
I always figured something like Frozen Synapse would be nice on a phone
quasi mantle
I'd take Nintendo Switch over mobile gaming, thank you very much.
foggy path
it's a PVP game but it doesn't require the players to be on at the same time
fathom wadi
Every sale on iOS dumps 30% into Apple's tax dodging, child labour abusing pockets. So for me, its about that :p
#freefortnite
๐
foggy path
fortnite more like fartnite amirite #teamapple
pearl elk
you can use phones basically as consoles these days, bluetooth gamepad and mirror the screen on a big screen. Theres just not many games which would give you a good experience like that, its all designed to be small screen time wasters for the most part
quasi mantle
My Android phone can be just for social media and on the go YouTube binge watching.
fathom wadi
my android phone is like a decade old, was second hand and I only use it to log into my bank account.
foggy path
lol
quasi mantle
Also I wonder why Genshin Impact still have yet to be ported to Nintendo Switch
It's more than perfect to have such game on the go, with high end hardware (compared to other phones in the same price range) and portability.
foggy path
Doesn't Nintendo basically still gatekeep the platform though
so maybe they just didn't want to deal
quasi mantle
As much as I'd love to shit on Genshin, I still want to see it being ported to the Switch
quasi mantle
Doesn't Nintendo basically still gatekeep the platform though
I mean, EA's FIFA games are also on Switch, and maybe have the same gambling mechanics as well
broken sigil
Lesson of the day, don't use ceramic mouse feet on a cloth pad lol
It ate through it in like a month ๐
Ordered another one and thinking about trying a hybrid pad (glass and cloth) after that one is ready for a change too
never liked hard surface pads but hybrid ones are like a mix between the 2
foggy path
get one of those old school Icemats
fathom wadi
I wouldn't use mouse feet at all. The RSPCA would probably prosecute.
quasi mantle
I doubt that Genshin Impact hasn't been ported to Switch solely because of the gambling mechanics :/
foggy path
neither did early opticals of the time :D
fathom wadi
the ms intellieye was great tbh. Lasted me 10 years that mouse
foggy path
I wonder if they still do lasers
broken sigil
also not sure if it's a good or a bad thing that I found a perfect Company for my gaming accessory addiction lol
foggy path
I think I have one old mouse which had twin lasers now that was hi tech
fathom wadi
when you have de-fluffed a few balls in your time, an optical mouse seems like a joy.
foggy path
I once played dod on a drawing tablet just to see how it works
it worked but not very well
:D
fathom wadi
never had an issue with the ms intellieye except the cable was a bit prone to becoming loose
broken sigil
Also weird thing I found is if your mouse pad feels... "slow" for some reason rubbing it with a cloth or paper tissue makes it feel "fast" again, no clue why but it does
(if we ignore the fact that I look like a lunatic while I rub my mousepad)
tulip orbit
broken sigil
lol
broken sigil
if it's a sticky day the mouse pad feels slow in some sort of way
Could be yeah
Or dust maybe too
One of the reasons why I'm thinking about hard surface or hybrid pad, cloth pads eventually wear out and end up with uneven surface
Hybrid and hard surface should be much more resilient
quasi mantle
https://preview.redd.it/lg0am3dj86051.png?auto=webp&s=c0053bba507896d2468e68be6f...
Tried it back in the childhood days. Ended up messing my mouse.
foggy path
did you ever use an Apple Magic Mouse?
It has the most insane "feet"
like... literally bars of some type of metal or something I think
it will not glide on a cloth pad
pearl elk
yeah you need to buy the Apple Air Hockey table attachment
broken sigil
don't forget the power cord too while you are at it to actually use the mouse
foggy path
funnily enough the touch sensitive surface on the magic mouse is probably still better than some pc touchpads...
broken sigil
how is that suppose to be comfortable to use ๐ค
foggy path
it's reasonably good
high sensitivity/acceleration mostly, wouldn't really want to use it with low
broken sigil
I guess yeah
I use some weird palm grip so there is no way I would be able to hold that thing properly
pearl elk
you need to have fruit juice on your hands to help grip it
tulip orbit
or super-glue
quasi mantle
how is that suppose to be comfortable to use ๐ค
I definitely won't do Doom speedrun with those ๐ค
I hold the right mouse button to do SR50 tricks all the time in PrBoom+
ivory lodge
Went to bed and realized a way to troubleshoot my issue...
scenic glen
When will nvidia probably release the geforxe 4xxx? Will it be this yr or next year? Im kinda hesitant to buy the 3080ti or 3090 if its gonna be this yr
quasi mantle
I'm sold to Rider for having the ability to set the editor background...
...but then this happened.
stiff crystal
I'm really torn by current mouse offerings
in past you just got nicely shaped logitech mouse and were happy with it for years
now all consumer mice are made for tiny hands where my big hands just get sore in few hours use and button quality is down the drain
I get like 6-12 months of use of one mouse before buttons start to fail and do multiple clicks
reminds me of the trash we got in the 90's when unbranded mice were common
just pure garbage
stiff crystal
I'm sold to Rider for having the ability to set the editor background...
...but...
would expect some refresh models before 4000
they usually do those, last time they branded them as supers but there's pretty much always been some models between
current situation with chip shortage is bit different though so anything could happen
quasi mantle
would expect some refresh models before 4000
uhhh okay?
stiff crystal
like, would it make even sense to release refresh models if they can't even normalize the production of the current models
@quasi mantle they've done the refresh models for like 2 decades now... in past they were the Ti models, but now they've changed that too...
then GTX 260 and 280 were a thing, they just did 260 with extra cores and 285 as refresh
but the point is, there usually has been tiny upgrade before going to next gen architecture
quasi mantle
<@!325627930484932608> they've done the refresh models for like 2 decades now......
I'm primarily lowspec-er, so I don't care much about flashy higher end NVIDIA RTX 20xx and above, but okay to whatever you're talking about.
stiff crystal
ah, those lower end models are different
but yeah, in current situation, even the low end stuff cost small fortune
I'd postpone all gpu purchases on current situation
you are basically paying double price now for the low end stuff
regal pecan
Seems like a minimum price for anything 8GB is double the msrp of a 2060, even if it's just an RX570
quasi mantle
At no point before my one previous post do I talked about GPU stuff, so I don't get it. I'm a third world inhabitant so second hand market is out of the question for me anyway.
I'm still visibly confused. I talked about how I can't send the registration form for Rider UE4, and out of nowhere, I got argued about GPUs, of which I had no knowledge in the higher end of the spectrum.
stiff crystal
@quasi mantleoh I see what happened now ๐
my bad, I was about to reply to the person above your message :/
stiff crystal
When will nvidia probably release the geforxe 4xxx? Will it be this yr or next y...
see above ๐
I really wish discord wouldn't offset the reply buttons.. this never happened on the old setup when they still had the reply button on same line
of course it's still user error, but it's annoying UX still
regal pecan
"Microsoft didn't buy us out because we were too expensive - quick, trash some things to lower our market value!"
finite jackal
median wraith
Chrome takes more time to load youtube pages than what videogames take to execute
median wraith
Yeah but not sure what happen recently even the 1080p or 720p videos takes a lot to load in the page
cursive crypt
also what's this? https://portal.productboard.com/epicgames/1-unreal-engine-publ...
Looks kinda fancy subsys for managing actor gas comps.
ooh, path tracer
... I don't see anything exciting, tho.
stiff crystal
only if we could get eye tracking on avg consumer vr headsets
like, on default
otherwise that will never pick up
fluid bloom
a niche feature for foveated rendering could be actual picture-in-picture kind of magnifying scopes/sights for rifles (for example) in games
like how they are in Red Orchestra
or maybe not, not sure ๐ค
I guess it's not that straight forward
cursive crypt
maintance release
Yeah, but they may add something by the time it is up. On the other hand, curious to see the code changes, hopefully closing the gap to UE 5
solid aurora
for few weekes, in master, there was also implementation of EventBus
but it was removed
Modular gameplay without EventBus is not particularly useful
cursive crypt
EventBus, that like subsys for MPMC with custom payload?
solid aurora
but I guess it's part of what they showed in december stream, when they live modded maps on live servers
yeah topics were gameplay tags and you cloud publish arbitrary data on topic
of course that's theory behind every other event bus on the planet, in practice you still need some stable API for messages
cursive crypt
I kinda did my own version of this, however, would be nice to have a mainstream variant of it instead.
solid aurora
yeah me too, but after seeing i just stopped supporting it, doubt I can do it better than Epic ๐
cursive crypt
Eeh, depends, they target Fortnite or some general cases...
solid aurora
yeah
when I use UE
I try to do not deviate to much what the engine is meant to do
cursive crypt
True that.
solid aurora
either way funny they updated product board but there is no topic on forums yet ๐
guess the spring ue5 preview might still be valid :
normal prism
also what's this? https://portal.productboard.com/epicgames/1-unreal-engine-publ...
That sounds fun actually
Most of the features seem mostly interesting for non-games usecases though
Bit sad that they don't mention water, could use some love
solid aurora
yeha Aaron in audio channel wrote that UE4 is mainly now fixes for enterprise tools
most of epic is working on UE5
normal prism
Yeah, wonder when we'll hear more about that
solid aurora
the few poor souls who are still stuck on UE4 can be probabaly compared to people still working in Cobol
normal prism
IIRC I heard some people were rumouring may
For a news update, not holding my breath though lol
fluid bloom
the few poor souls who are still stuck on UE4 can be probabaly compared to peopl...
Lords of Kobol
normal prism
cursive crypt
Nah, I doubt the code will bump to something so different.
solid aurora
Nah, I doubt the code will bump to something so different.
At that point
I'm not sure
assets are holy
but code
anything goes
cursive crypt
Well, code in games is not so small. Gotta rework it?
I mean, apart from small BP games or so, there is always C++
cursive crypt
๐ฌ
solid aurora
worse if you have to rework blueprints
foggy path
I was looking at unreal containers for a bit when trying to see if I could boot up an UE instance on AWS
solid aurora
code with good tools, is just hitting compile until it works and then unit tests pass
foggy path
But you have to set up an EC2 instance as a container host so might as well just set up the EC2 instance to boot something that'll run UE instead of dealing with containers :P
solid aurora
i think it's more targeted towards cloud gaming
though
my first thought about it was something like SpatialOS
normal prism
Yeah, I imagine this would be very useful if you want to dynamically scale a server back-end running dedicated servers
Makes it very easy to spin up new instances
solid aurora
or implement multiple servers (microservices) working in tandem
foggy path
Yeah
solid aurora
for AI, physics etc
foggy path
I was just kinda hoping AWS would have had an offering where it would just give me a container host
and I can just tell it "here's a container, run it"
normal prism
and I can just tell it "here's a container, run it"
IIRC at a previous job we used to do something like that through dockerhub.
As in, you would give your hoster the dockerfile, which through integration with dockerhub would pull all the data and spin it up
foggy path
somewhat annoyingly EC2 boxes on AWS also bill you for a full hour at minimum if you use Windows
so I might need to see if I can compile my game on Linux just for this stupid experiment I wanted to do lol
normal prism
somewhat annoyingly EC2 boxes on AWS also bill you for a full hour at minimum if...
Surely that one hour isn't so expensive
foggy path
well no but I'm likely going to need to test the scripts a lot before it works properly, so running the script would cost me 1-2 bucks a pop which could easily add up for some just-for-shits-and-giggles project
normal prism
Makes sense ๐
foggy path
I might just end up testing the parts of the script that bring the instance up/down against some tiny linux instance and hope that it works the same way with windows :D
foggy path
does DO offer cheaper GPU capable windows hosts?
I checked with Linode and I don't think they do at least, that's where my current VPS is at to begin with
solid aurora
DO only have linux,
foggy path
Yeah well that isn't very useful then
Vultr doesn't even offer GPU's based on what I can see on their site
I'm not seeing anything about that on DO either
anyway I think my project should package for linux if I install a plugin I'm using as source
since I recall last time when I was just testing that option out of curiosity it failed because that plugin didn't have linux builds
normal prism
since I recall last time when I was just testing that option out of curiosity it...
You mean an plugin for Unreal?
foggy path
Yeah
foggy path
Yeah that's what I was saying, have to install it as source into my project for that :)
normal prism
There's some infuriating parts
Where clang starts going
"Your code violates best practises. It'll run, but it's dirty so I'm not letting you package it for your own good"
foggy path
lol
solid aurora
clang is actually good at catching code that will bite your ass anyway
the shit I saw that MSVC passed
i locked my self in shame room
cursive crypt
That because most are using the enabled by default VC extensions and stuff
UE will fail miserably.
gcc/clang are more strict by default
For true men are born with these compilers.
cursive crypt
Are you using CLang with UE?
normal prism
Yeah, for linux packaging
cursive crypt
It should be about fine, they follow the GCC style.
normal prism
It's the marketplace plugins that cause issues often, a few errors (warnings actually, that FAIL) here and there about ridiculous opinionated code style stuff
normal prism
lemme dig
normal prism
Show an actual code?
cursive crypt
But what you tried to suppress it? ๐
normal prism
I think I had multiple issues, but that was one of them
normal prism
But what you tried to suppress it? ๐
What happened when I did?
It kept erroring out the packaging
So I just fixed the code
lol
I don't mind warnings like that, it's good, but it's weird af that it fails the packaging by default
Warnings shouldn't break the packaging unless I opt-in
cursive crypt
Wait, you said up, you didn't fixed it.
So, I was trying to see what you tried and it didn't fixed it.
normal prism
It didn't work though
(though that might have been my fault)
The suppression didn't work
I tried Josai's stuff
cursive crypt
SHoW COde
normal prism
Brother that was half a year ago at this point
I have no idea where that was
haha
๐
cursive crypt
Eeh, okay...
normal prism
I'll keep you in my thoughts for when it happens again, pinky promise
normal prism
So I just fixed the code
(Fixed the code as in, I made it clang-compliant without suppressing it)
cursive crypt
Yeah, think latest versions are kinda pedantic about warnings. Interestingly, as mentioned up, they use the "relaxed" VC which already ignores many.
CLang is just being paranoid for that one specifically.
normal prism
Aye ๐
I wonder why it breaks though
Like, I get warning
But surely that means Unreal's build process is opting in for breaking at warnings
cursive crypt
For many projects a warning equals an error
normal prism
Ah ๐ค
cursive crypt
Okay, some, but I have been working with such. UE also kinda does that. For example, you can't shadow a variable pfuuu
normal prism
I feel triggered by that statement looking at my windows packaging warning count ๐
ancient hornet
if your warnings don't cause compilation errors
they won't ever get fixed and start to accumulate
normal prism
Still strange that that process is different for windows and linux packaging though
You'd expect uniform strictness (on the level of "should warnings fail the packaging")
normal prism
No no, that I understand
(on the level of "should warnings fail the packaging")
This
cursive crypt
Well, it fails my builds for sure ๐
normal prism
Not the actual warnings, that's totally reasonable ๐
normal prism
Well, it fails my builds for sure ๐
Warnings fail your windows packaging?
cursive crypt
Well, haven't packaged in awhile, but if it fails my casual building... ๐คทโโ๏ธ
normal prism
Nothing to boast about, but I have tons at the end of my windows packaging, finishes fine though
median wraith
I had to do a single task
Me while doing it, finding nightmares everywhere and fixing it
And at the end don't have time to the main task
normal prism
Let's form a support group
median wraith
With google forms ?
normal prism
ugh the worst those people
cursive crypt
Kinda fine when you don't play too much games. Everything looks original.
median wraith
game name
median wraith
Kinda fine when you don't play too much games. Everything looks original.
don't worry there is people that fix that time to time
Man, the today games names are genuine unique
"Path", "Snowy Path", "Banana", "Moon", "Sol"
๐
I mean in general, not by this one at all
Youtube says its The Forest
there is some games at steam for 8โฌ that are worst than this
fathom wadi
median wraith
What you purchase
What you get
what the hell I just see that on Twitter
looks like some project made with UE4 marketplace assets
on the last
torpid star
you know whats really great about unreal? the modularity of the engine. I'm certain the whole must actor/component/must be on gt can literally be ripped out and replaced with something better in the future
sure there are lots of hacks laying around the engine, but the whole engine is built on a great module foundation that is such a huge advantage when it comes to maintenance
ivory lodge
I am having the dumbest problem with animation ever. My switch refuses to play the next animation so it always turns on.
median wraith
Technically the engine isn't modular
Not sure what you mean at all
the whole core is as is you cannot split it or whatever
fathom wadi
of course it's modular. Its made of modules.
ivory lodge
Every time I hear that I hear it in George W's voice: "Mod-YOU-lar"
median wraith
the only modular parts are plugins and still depends between them
fathom wadi
plugins are collections of modules. The modules are underneath the plugins in the tree of life. Pretty sure the plugin architecture is a module itself.
pearl elk
modular depedencies are a thing, cant launch a rocket without an engine ๐
zinc matrix
what if i throw the rocket with my hand into the air tho?
fathom wadi
it squirts
pearl elk
if you can lift it youre missing more than the engine module
median wraith
plugins are collections of modules. The modules are underneath the plugins in th...
well as someone that edited the engine, I have to say its a web of modules ones depends of others so technically you cannot switch something like that
zinc matrix
hevedy edited the enigine O_O
fathom wadi
technically you can if you code deep enough. But there is a point you don't want to
pearl elk
hevedity
fathom wadi
and as someone who edited the engine.... I know what you are saying, but its still modular ๐
zinc matrix
duty or deity heaven?
median wraith
back in the days I liked the id tech architectures
pearl elk
I cant take bits from 2 different Ikea flat packs and make it work, they arnt modular hehehe
fathom wadi
I like Flash architecture. One main class and the rest you coded yourself.
median wraith
XD
zinc matrix
me seing all those programmers.
me: ๐ฆ
fathom wadi
hey it works real nice ๐
median wraith
I like Unity* architecture. One main class and the rest you coded yourself.
fathom wadi
is Unity like that?
median wraith
well technically still kinda empty
fathom wadi
hmm. Never really checked it out
median wraith
the company is just purchasing external tools to have a more complete tool
fathom wadi
@zinc matrix there is a simple trick to becoming a programmer. Code. Every day. Until you know some of it. Then say "I code therefore i++"
pearl elk
Im not actually a programmer, Im just really good at pretending
open source meta programming source git tree commit task goal orientated data
fathom wadi
Flash had one Document Class which set out the base and you could start from there. There were still classes you could copy/paste/download/include but mostly you wrote it for purpose. No bloat that way
just a crappy jit compiler ๐
pearl elk
who you callin a crappy jit ๐
fathom wadi
activex control based jit compilers :p
median wraith
Well Unity isn't flash, it was an absurd comparation but lets say GameMaker is kinda like XNA don't even come with UI tools etc And Unity is like these just it comes with tools
fathom wadi
You know what is just like Flash? Adobe Animate. Because it is Flash. ๐
pearl elk
tool is cheating, you have to code your own tools from the ground up
cursive crypt
SkoomaScript
torpid star
SkoomaScript
why does this ring bells?
cursive crypt
Exactly ๐
pearl elk
I think we should invent a new programming language which is done with ancient rune words only
fathom wadi
Im gonna learn it, then pretend I never learned it and continue to use C++. Then when someone asks "Can you use Verse?" I can reply "Sure, you hum it and I'll sing it"
pearl elk
as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I take a look at my code and realise theres no errors left
timber viper
as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I take a look at my code and realise there are still 154546 errors left
pearl elk
I got 99 warnings but an error aint one
timber viper
%99.99 of the time UE doesnt throw any warnings at me and I find this surprising
fathom wadi
Accessed None: Nothing to access. Try accessing something. If you cannot access anything. Outsource because you are lame.
@timber viper 100% of the time, Unreal has an error message unless its so verbose it isn't actually an error
the thing is, you have to look into the log file and follow the yellow brick road. follow the yellow brick road. follow follow follow follow follow the yellow brick road. Accessed none. Pay no attention to the bug behind the curtain.
pearl elk
Accessed none but you gotta be like Neo, the one with lots of guns son
fathom wadi
I know debug symbols ... I mean kung fu
timber viper
I know debug symbols ... I mean kung fu
blah.pdb is not loaded
torpid star
those anyone know of a command line tool that lets you define a global windows configuration file that disables things like windows defender/all the other w10's bullshit. If you ever used linux I mean something like a .dotfiles thing
fathom wadi
sure Powershell
torpid star
it has to be portable for one
so lots of scripts in powershell, it's a start atleast
pearl elk
+Suppress=Awesomeness
fathom wadi
+Suppress=Suppressions
I went to get my vaccine today and they didn't offer me both vaccines. I was most disappointed so I left. They ain't fobbing me off on the AZ one. I got street smarts and I reads the interwebs. I want some of that mRNA to boost my already awesome DNA ๐
pearl elk
yeah you gotta get em both or the 5G doesnt work right
fathom wadi
true. My phone lost connection immediately. Even though it's only 4g
carmine frigate
i want my vaccine shaken not stirred
pearl elk
I'll take a dose of vacation
torpid star
I went to get my vaccine today and they didn't offer me both vaccines. I was mos...
I'm going to get vaxxed in an hour, my relatives said they could choose
said they got moderna, want that as well
fathom wadi
Honestly though, my immune system is broken and it's trying to destroy me. So I read the AZ stuff and it warned of autoimmune deficiencies even though the risk is fairly minimal. But I ain't taking chances because im so unlucky, I mean.... I've been living in this discord for years. Pure unlucky :p
We don't get the Moderna one here. Just Pfizer and AstraZeneca. I figure, at least if the Pfizer one goes wrong I can sue them for more + some stiffy pills for life ๐
zinc matrix
do u need skylight if you use full rt? isnt a skylight a fake bounce light?
fathom wadi
the light shouldn't be the factor in that. The material flag should be
zinc matrix
material flag, which one?
fathom wadi
Raytracing bool and the settings that work with it
zinc matrix
oh u mean the rt checkbox under skylight.
fathom wadi
probably bIsRaytraced
I haven't set it up for a while so I forget. But I remember I had to do that in materials but I used regular lights
zinc matrix
how do you do that in materials?
fathom wadi
I dunno. But I know a search engine that does
I try not to do lighting. I can't compete with the gurus because im a logic programmer not a rendering genius
fathom wadi
have you tried the official epic documentation on the workflow?
I mean, its the first place I would go in regards to Epic information about the Epic engine they Epically gave us for free ๐
zinc matrix
i have read that multiple times yes
material flag ray tracing tho i have neve rread
anywhere
fathom wadi
if I google it and find it. You have to donate $10 to my paypal
fathom wadi
well thats not my problem. I learned how to google. Why would I be a google bot for those who cba to learn.
zinc matrix
i was a good googler 1 0years ago. but then they changed the algo and since then itj ust sucks
keywords only give you paid articles
or some trash news sites
but what has material to do with skylight?
fathom wadi
well there are two methods you need. Post process and material. Really you are best reading the documentation or doing a course on learn.unrealengine.com because I might just give you a couple of adwords based adverts at the top of my advice and we don't want that now do we? ๐
zinc matrix
XDD
i mean if those adwords keywords lead to your website or so and you make money...
zinc matrix
no wait. if i click on that, you have to pay for that
that would be matte painting
thus i would learn concept design.
fathom wadi
The best thing you can do is not use raytracing. Just throw some reflection captures in and slap an RTX logo on it. Nobody will know until they look for dynamic reflections but you can fake that too.
cursive crypt
Wait for the upcoming Path tracing ๐ง
fathom wadi
path tracing is already in though? ๐
cursive crypt
Iunno, saw it on 4.27 ๐ค
median wraith
where you saw that ? ๐ง
cursive crypt
fathom wadi
hmm. RTX is a hybrid I think. Ray and Path tracing.
median wraith
path Tracing is already there
fathom wadi
yeah. I was reading about it the other day when I was wondering how many samples max it could do. Which turned out to be 50.
cursive crypt
Support for all material types except Hair, Eye, and SingleLayerWater.
Support for refraction and all major blend modes.
Transmission of light through glass surfaces, including approximate (but not full) caustics.
Support for most light parameters such as area size, penumbra, attenuation, barndoors, rect light textures, IES profiles, etc.
Support for nearly unlimited numbers of lights.
Improved sampling techniques, resulting in less noise in the same amount of rendering time. This is still an ongoing area of research and will continue to improve in future versions of Unreal.
Support for orthographic cameras.
just improvements then
cursive crypt
Yes, looks good tho, but I'm not a rtx person, so can't comment well.
median wraith
Is there a roadmap for the roadmaps that Epic creates ?
fathom wadi
me neither. I just know Blender a bit and was compering ๐
cursive crypt
lol
fathom wadi
I can do sooooo many samples in blender ๐
cursive crypt
There was a Number box for them I think? Free numbers.
fathom wadi
With Intel's denoiser AI you don't need that many samples though. I can get results from 32 samples that would take 512 samples without denoising.
not that much faster but some
the test beds I've seen are all biased really.
I did my own test and it wasn't 10x the speed like they say
plus its lacking features right now which will add to that time later on.
cursive crypt
Man, there are tons of tracers out there, like go figure out which one to use.
fathom wadi
I use Tracist. But it only renders white I'm not sure why?
that wasn't close to the bone was it? I'm trying not to get banned from everywhere ever right now ๐
humour is saving me a depression day today so im rolling with it
ahh what an arse. I mean... I wasn't staring ! Cosplay != consent.
zinc matrix
The best thing you can do is not use raytracing. Just throw some reflection capt...
idc about reflections in a game. its the GI and shadow which sells it
median wraith
In other hand the 4.27 seems a huge release for industrial things but no for gamedev
fathom wadi
@zinc matrix you can bake those tho.
@median wraith playing the long game. Get the industries dependent on it, then reap the rewards of the licenses. Autodesk style !
torpid star
https://portal.productboard.com/epicgames/1-unreal-engine-public-roadmap/c/316-p...
I wonder if this the same real-time GI they used for ue5 demo
So we're getting UE5 early
Heck yeah, the modular gameplay thing is basically ecs. Although they have not mentioned whether it runs on gt or not
solid aurora
I wonder if this the same real-time GI they used for ue5 demo
no
solid aurora
Heck yeah, the modular gameplay thing is basically ecs. Although they have not m...
not really
it's managing adding of actor componenets to actors
which kind ofs work within actor framework ;
fathom wadi
isn't that kind of like an ecs from the point of actor upwards tho? Or is it not enough to be called as such?
proud jay
Apparently the guys from gears of war are already using ue5 for their next game
fathom wadi
they never said they were using it right now. They said they were going to use it for the next game
but then so have a lot of people. PES devs were talking UE5 for the next game a few months ago
cursive crypt
Afaik, it is available for some customers?
fathom wadi
It wouldn't surprise me if some early access licencees have it in order to prepare. I mean, it makes sense to at least have some releases ready to co-incide with the release.
light spruce
yeah.. that looked like something else glancing over
man
I need help
I'm pretty sure my guts disagree
fluid bloom
are sound insulated slide-in glass doors (pocket doors?) a thing?
light spruce
Probably. But limited on insulation and expensive, most likely.
fluid bloom
I just want one for my man cave/office that's next to the living room of my future house ๐
light spruce
Because they're like gas-filled separated layers
ivory lodge
Shouldn't a man cave be full of men? Maybe with a lot of dance music and their shirts off?
light spruce
boots 'n' pants 'n' boots 'n' pants 'n' boots 'n' pants 'n' boots 'n' pants 'n'
fluid bloom
I'm sure my wife would approve
ivory lodge
Warweasle dances...
light spruce
No... that's pretty much on par with "man hole"
ivory lodge
Best name for a gay bar ever.
Too bad there are no bi bars... All we have are Wendys.
light spruce
I still want to open a wine and spirits store... "Peter Liquors"
fathom wadi
I always wanted to run a trance club where people just chill out and call it The Blue Room. It's a bit cliche but you got to have goals.
fluid bloom
ivory lodge
Just got my second shot. The moon people said hallucinations are normal...
fathom wadi
tell them I said I'll be back when I find a new guy or it goes legal here ๐
ivory lodge
They said to move to Illinois.
fathom wadi
no way the enema bandit will get me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IP3qZDXFRik for reference
ivory lodge
When I start my studio I'm going to encourage pot use.
fathom wadi
I wouldn't. It's a nice medicine but I wouldn't say its the best thing to do if you don't need it
ivory lodge
Says the guy only getting 80 hours a week out of his slaves employees.
There are a full 168 hours in a week.
fathom wadi
I've seen people mess up their lives to it. It's probably one of the worst things to do when you are educating in your youth too. Mostly because you stop learning the traditional stuff you want, end up trying to learn the things you think you want, or turning to carpentry trying to make bongs out of fruit and things.
That being said, get a bit older, replace alcohol with it and mellow out, avoid some stress and don't over do it and its great.
ivory lodge
But such things gave us fruit by the foot and the pet rock
fathom wadi
yeah and Cheech and Chong movies which I love, but reality is what matters. After two of my friends became mentally ill from it I couldn't ignore the safety issues any longer.
ivory lodge
What? That's a thing? Because it can treat some illnesses. It's better than Xanax long term.
Also, I'm joking but I do want to encourage a playful and creative atmosphere.
fathom wadi
sure it fixes a lot of ailments, but the effects of THC are similar to a mild psychotic episode and if you are pre-disposed to such areas like schitzophrenia or multiple personality disorders and such, it can exacerbate it. And these days we ain't getting some thai stick or sensi. It's hardcore percentages that are hydroponically grown a lot of the time. From dabs to 30% thc/cbd combos and above, it's all a risk.
everything in moderation is probably the best way to deal with it, but if I could advise the kids today, I'd say don't do it until you hit your 20's at least. Get that education in there first. Including educating about what you are inhaling.
LIke today, I was on the bus, and some girl was practically shouting out loud about her weed experiences and what she and her friends do. Couldn't have been older than 16-18 but she looked a younger. I didn't say it, but I wanted to be that guy who says "stay in school kids" if you know what I mean. It's sad. I went through it myself to get past my issues with bullying and it wasted several years of education. That's probably why I'm so determined to learn as much as possible ever since.
deep glen
sounds familiar hehe
totes unrelated topic:
for the last week or so whenever gf is finished with work, it starts raining up until she arrives home.
fathom wadi
weather has been odd here too. A boy in my town died the other day when a freak storm hit us. He was playing football and got struck by lightning. Poor kid and poor family.
ivory lodge
I'm ambivalent. I didn't use any until college but my experiences were all good. Except when I watched the last justice league cartoon where they kill everyone off. That was harsh.
fathom wadi
๐
My experiences personally weren't too bad. The education thing I had a chance to resolve, but ask my two friends of which one was shipped off to a remote island off the Orkney's so he wasn't tempted to do it again, and the other who would treat his friends like his enemies for no apparent reason. And he would put up explicit pictures in his room. Like truly explicit. Then invite his mother round. Or the time they came home and he was completely naked and hugging one of the house plants. It's probably a rare thing but you never know how its gonna affect you until it does.
ivory lodge
Gotta go
fathom wadi
I knew I would "old man" you into leaving. My work here is done ๐
^^ TFW when you spent 3 days depressed and now you are hyper.
cursive crypt
Ups and downs from the body's chems can be scary.
zinc matrix
epic said in mid may NEWS for ue5
fathom wadi
for sure. One day I'm confident in my abilities, ready to take on the world. The next I know nothing and wonder why anyone would employ me. It's legit costing me time and money
cursive crypt
Can relate, I'm in a bit of carried on by some waves too. Partially annoyed I procrastinate during half of the free time I have as of now. Willpower is very important ๐คทโโ๏ธ
fathom wadi
I have willpower. I just don't have the concentration.
cursive crypt
I suppose we have a different definitions for Willpower then. Willpower for me is the ability to maintain a state, physical & psychical.
ivory lodge
Huh? I wasn't listening...
fathom wadi
@cursive crypt I have the will to work, the power to focus on my will to work. The problem arises when my mind decides it's going to interrupt my thought processes with DOOOOOOOOOOOOOM !
the panic attacks are the worst tho
cursive crypt
Anxiety?
fathom wadi
oh hell yeah. My palms sweat like Moses waiting for the red sea to part.
cursive crypt
lol... Hmm... my ex goes through something similar as far I understand you. Especially, after we split up :/
We sometimes talk about that and while there are kind of root problems, sometimes it can be as simple as say, the material side of things.
... the psychological health is usually so ignored.
fathom wadi
My mental health is fubar. I could tell you horror stories. But I'd rather just ride the euphoria until it drains away and I have to battle it again. ๐
ivory lodge
I am manic so I'm going to be Invincible forever!
fathom wadi
new thing.
cursive crypt
Ah, the VJ and the Sport CEO?
fathom wadi
Gonna see if I can ask Deadmau5 why his microgaming slot keeps ripping me off. I want a refund you pest-headed fiend !
hmm Sometimes I wish some of the people who made music I like would get into UE4 stuff. Not that I don't like DM5 stuff, but its not regular play for me.
Like where are the likes of Infected Mushroom and Shpongle?
They should be well into this stuff
Perhaps Lemon Jelly should come back and blow our minds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kihhcgkxgck remake this with metahumans and some paper 2d ๐
cursive crypt
Password?
finite helm
Cant remember
cursive crypt
You guessed it right.
fathom wadi
I heard if you send money to my paypal, I spend it and you get no password. It's worth a try.
fathom wadi
umm that confuses me as my internet nick is 00 so yeah Im still around (twice) but I used my superhero name in here.
cursive crypt
Check on the channel's history for your friend.
finite helm
fricc
fathom wadi
probably busy
I feel like this lack of zero knight has left the room on a downer so I'm gonna pretend he just went rambling. And cue the music... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfU1aorHVQg
Wait... is this article about the Facebook Unreal Engine Developer Group? ๐ #missing1owner
solid aurora
without some real use case show by Epic it's hard to tell
looking at code
it can be used to dynamically add features to the gem
I mean youcan push changes directly to the running server/client
fathom wadi
@silk lily it means you probably wont have to keep storing references so other references know how to get to the reference it wants to reference with makes referencing refactoring a pain in the reference.
solid aurora
by registering rules on how certain components should interact with actors
fathom wadi
I imagine it has something to do with the communication of components being rather bad for some systems currently implemented. Like Sequencer, which hates non parental references and requires extra work. That would fall in line with the 4.27 "nothing to see here for game dev as we are pimping virtual production tools" thing someone mentioned :p
silk lily
ahhh okay
so 4.27 looked from the roadmap is more for the virtual production and film industry guys
fathom wadi
im sure it is, but there is something for everyone. Like we get the updated EOS shared/plugin architecture. Which saves a million hours
I've seen a preview already. I signed up to my imagination, pretended I was editing the UE5 demo and not caring about polys and dumping in 2billion meshes. It was a sweet preview.
Ahh crap. I was thinking about UE5 again and got distracted. Accessed None.
I voted for the carpet.
solid aurora
Back to the Modular Gameplay
few months back there was also Gameplay Events plugin
basically implementation of Message Bus
without that you can't really make decoupled gameplay feactures
it was since removed
solid aurora
but looking at the Modular Gameplay plugin it doesn't really solve any dependencies issues
what it does solve though
is adding componenets to actors without directly referencing either
you can compile DLL plugin, push it to clients/servers, load it and then add new components to actors on next loading screen
solid aurora
good for us : D
fathom wadi
that doesn't sound nice. I'd rather do it this way. Good day sir. I said good day !
zinc matrix
Fortnite-Driven Development :zomgmoFace:
zinc matrix
EPIC LITERally said mid may new ue5 news
foggy path
Someone was posting on maybe #industry-chat a LinkedIn post from someone at Epic claiming I think June or July as UE5 release
solid aurora
idk I asked on UDN like week ago if their estimates changed
still waiting
;D
either way I can't wait to start porting my game to UE5
ivory lodge
Watched a cute video and now I want a guinea pig.
fathom wadi
@foggy path that post was out of context. Its gone round like a dose of the clap but I follow Walt and it was meant in another context. ie. someone said this but it's not the case.
normal prism
Someone was posting on maybe <#556207299300032513> a LinkedIn post from someone ...
Oh nice!
foggy path
Ah I figured it might've been something like that
normal prism
<@!286140789304721417> that post was out of context. Its gone round like a dose ...
Got excited, why do you have to spoil it
(โฏยฐโกยฐ๏ผโฏ๏ธต โปโโป
cursive crypt
A trap
fathom wadi
@normal prism no news is good news. #extrahypetime
fresh heath
Twitter
fathom wadi
He's probably seeing what he can do with spheres this time
foggy path
He's been away from making Minecrafts for a while maybe he should take it easy and start with hexagons or octagons before pushing for spheres
fathom wadi
ok this is odd. I get perhaps 6-10 in a week usually. Had 76 today. Is it a sign? Will someone give me a job? Find out next week in the latest episode of "What TF does he do anyway?"
foggy path
no fucking idea why
fathom wadi
76 is the year I was born too.
cursive crypt
linked in?
fathom wadi
zinc matrix
what is a notch
foggy path
A slightly divisive gamedev person
fathom wadi
since I got banned on twitter I decided to goto the one place where people dont act like a complete asshat. Except those recruiters who keep trying to get me to PHP jobs ๐
fathom wadi
I stopped doing that in 2010 ๐
zinc matrix
i dont understand when i can mention people in this server
i get warned because i mentioned someone
fathom wadi
I actually did one PHP script since 2010, which was a login auth for a dedicated server lobby ๐
cursive crypt
They look mostly at companies I guess, I'm only offered some low-level or system C/C++, which is kinda boring :/
fathom wadi
@zinc matrix is it a moderator?
zinc matrix
yes ofc a mod?
so if i mention people and they dont like me and then report me, i get a warn?
fathom wadi
then thats probably why. If you need help, try the moderators tag and someone who isn't busy will help. But directly mentioning adds up and will annoy mods.
zinc matrix
so its just by "liking-basis"?
foggy path
Why do you need to mention people?
slow gyro
Depends on why you tag people
fathom wadi
imagine getting 10-20 pings a minute because you are a mod. Thats the cause and effect of modding a server with 15k people
zinc matrix
are you trolling zomg
foggy path
The only time you really would need to do that is when someone asks a question, or if someone replies to your question
slow gyro
Who did you tag and why?
foggy path
If you mention someone for other reasons besides those it might not be necessary
zinc matrix
i mentioned a person so they can read me. because ithe text is towards them.
fathom wadi
hah was that him? ๐
foggy path
haha
slow gyro
Hm okay. I don't know the specifics but then I won't touch this. Too hot of a mess if I'm unlucky.
zinc matrix
foggy path
people don't really want pings from randos, it's just the way things are on discord
zinc matrix
oh
foggy path
people on some servers get upset when the admins post notifications for the whole server...
zinc matrix
yes but i am not a annoying boring notification
i am a user
im much better tha na annoying notification
foggy path
you are a rando though lol
zinc matrix
randos are what makes my life splendid
foggy path
not everyone agrees
slow gyro
We have two channels for news now, just because people were annoyed to get pinged on server news instead of ue4 news
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fathom wadi
It's quite triggering sometimes. Like when I help people then I get random pings from people asking for personal help. I always tell them to ask in channel so others can help.
zinc matrix
i didnt ask for help tho
fathom wadi
nobody said you did. I was telling a tale of yore
zinc matrix
i gave them small talk. and i know that game devs love small talk
cursive crypt
It is just that some/many people don't like it, nothing personal toward you.
fathom wadi
I dont like to block people. Im too inquisitive when they talk so I pressed the expand and regret it ๐
zinc matrix
so how do i know if someone likes getting mentined
foggy path
gamedevs only like big talk
cursive crypt
so how do i know if someone likes getting mentined
Assume, they don't. At least until you have talked each other and kinda know each other.
zinc matrix
^ ok
fathom wadi
@zinc matrix general rule. Just don't be annoying with it. If you are talking to someone or trying to get their attention in a room of spam, it seems appropriate, but no need to overdo it.
foggy path
Yeah I tend to always turn the mention option off in replies as well unless I'm answering something that they might actually want to see
I wish it was possible to default it to off or something
fathom wadi
yeah I turned it off for now as I was depressed this week and was about to snap at people.
zinc matrix
everybody wants to know what i write tho
foggy path
that's what @ everyone is for
cursive crypt
Otherwise, feel free to check on the dedicated channels for help or something. Here is is the lounge, only the biggest minds of slacking hang around.
zinc matrix
i jus twanted to talk to them ๐ฆ
cursive crypt
Well, you now talk with them w/o mentioning them ๐
fathom wadi
zinc matrix
i dont talk to walls. so u have to mention people.
otherwise u talk to walls if they dont get notified
fathom wadi
people will accept only so much tho.
foggy path
Need to try pinging ponkkis at night to see how long my acquired goodwill from making a video rental simulator lasts
fathom wadi
slow gyro
Ah, zomg wants a strike, I see.
cursive crypt
otherwise u talk to walls if they dont get notified
Ah... yeah, that's how it is. I mean, it is public chat room. It takes time to know people so you can mention them.
foggy path
Ah, zomg wants a strike, I see.
just in case it's not obvious I'm just goofing lol
cursive crypt
ponkkis being sensitive at night
slow gyro
just in case it's not obvious I'm just goofing lol
๐ sure
cursive crypt
just in case it's not obvious I'm just goofing lol
๐ฉ
zinc matrix
general consensus is... "cough" when somebody says stuff like that after someone else got a punishment.
slow gyro
Ah well, strikes run out after a while, so if you are behaving it will basically go back to square 1
fathom wadi
I used to work in a matchstick factory but I lost my job when we went on strike and the whole place went up in flames.
fathom wadi
it looks specifically awful.
deep glen
goddamn thats afwul
https://i.gyazo.com/fcd4bddcf41db55d13399c74834ad2a3.png i know exactly why
fathom wadi
I remember that time I went to EA DICE and fixed that bug that the entire AAA team couldn't fix. It only took me a minute too. Who knew?
deep glen
https://i.gyazo.com/6659cdcf88db63f3a56aff9636afe042.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/976941155370795014/ZzdOhH9C.jpg
cannot unsee btw
fathom wadi
