lounge

[stiff crystal]

nobody who wrote that actually wrote a follow up post after the game release to tell how it really went

but I don't think many of these games ever released even

[quasi mantle]

There are many limitations you have to keep in mind when making 3D mobile game, because most phones are weaker than Nintendo Switch.

[pastel plume]

Yeah thats true

I run a simple town shit on unity and rendered in android 3GB ram Octa Core Prosessor Adreno 506 , still lag af

Like tf , smack yo ass up unity

until i turn off anti aliasing and decreased Fixed DPI to 150

[pearl elk]

thats a terribad processor

[pastel plume]

whats good processor theb?

[ivory lodge]

God this is frustrating.

[pastel plume]

*then

[pearl elk]

Exynos 9820

[pastel plume]

what phones using exynos 9820?

[pearl elk]

Samsung S10+, I picked it cuz its not top end but its not used in some obscure Motorola from a century ago 😛

[pastel plume]

what about iphone?

[deep glen]

@pastel plume please be more polite when people ask for help.

[pastel plume]

aight dude my bad

should i call 911 for him?

[quasi mantle]

Protip: don't interfere on someone's question if you can't give solution or clues.

[pastel plume]

yeah call 911 then , ask if they can solve my problem

iam just you know starting new shit , With everything original , not matter how its cost respect developer

But people still selling pirated software online like TF?

shame on em

[unborn lotus]

🍿

[quasi mantle]

Third world pirated software market can be weird beyond recognition.

🍵

[pastel plume]

💩

[glad scaffold]

i love when people sell ripped models then complain on twitter when they get taked down lmao

[quasi mantle]

It's one thing to spread ripped models for making machinima and monetise the video, but to sell the model is hilariously disingenuous lol

[quasi mantle]

I swear, I'm pissed when people ridicule me for trying to stick with one Unreal Engine version.

[pearl elk]

you should use atleast 5 versions simultaneously

[quasi mantle]

For non productive reasons? Probably not.

For crying out loud, nobody complained when Gears 5 still uses 4.11 (albeit modified)

[pearl elk]

Gears 5 was released like 2 years ago

but you do have to feature lock at some point if you want to work on stability towards release

[quasi mantle]

4.11 was a version from 3 years earlier.

[pearl elk]

yeah but they modified the engine fairly heavily

Borderlands 3 still uses Scaleform, show me the UE4 version with that plugin 😛

[quasi mantle]

Even the Mass Effect trilogy remaster can't use UE4 and opted to use UE3

[pearl elk]

These all make some logical sense though right, if you have a good reason to lock your engine version then you shouldnt pay any attention to ridicule

If youre doing it cuz you like being a luddite and just to be punk and stick it to the man, then I dunno

[quasi mantle]

I already made several modifications to 4.26, and I had to distribute it to my team

I'm not entirely one-man dev.

[humble remnant]

I keep 4.24~4.26 at once

[light spruce]

That's the important part.

If people try to give you shit because you need to stay on version... my answer to you involves a question: How many middle fingers do you have? Because that's the way you respond to that.

[humble remnant]

Though I keep .25 and .26 for marketplace only at this point

Some things haven't been updated for .26 and I'm down to port some plugins

[ivory lodge]

@quasi mantle You have a team?

[ancient hornet]

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/1/22413196/valve-steam-lawsuit-wolfire-games-humble-bundle-app-store-cut-epic-apple

everyone getting in that wild ride 😄

[ivory lodge]

I was working with a team but the politics got too bad.

[light spruce]

And that's why I never kiss 'em on the mouth fly solo and learn to be bad at everything

[quasi mantle]

Yeah, albeit small.
I'm the director and programmer, the other two are artists working directly with the project.

[ivory lodge]

I got into some knock down, drag out fights over the design of the game AND the software architecture.

It would have been horrible if the other programmer hadn't been such a sexy beast.

shivers

[pearl elk]

Meanwhile MS stays out of court by lowering their percentage

and I was thinking, does this mean no more Bethesda launcher

[quasi mantle]

We're pretty much worked in synergy and churn out ideas and suggestion, and I allow them to experiment to see what's worked best, what don't work but can be recycled for later time.

[light spruce]

Life ProTip: Don't get attracted to your team members

[pearl elk]

what if youre married to them 😛

[quasi mantle]

If you can't separate between work life and romantic life, attracted to your team members is not a wise choice.

Otherwise, date them for all I care.

I don't know about myself, though. I'm straight (and always be straight), but I don't see myself wanting to date a girl like when I was a lot younger. Felt like I no longer have confidence in dating in recent years, especially with the rampant catfishing and manipulative succubi.

All I can do now is making something in Unreal, and occasionally simping on Unreal waifus.

[zinc matrix]

early access ue5 where is it 😮

[quasi mantle]

4.28 will going first

[zinc matrix]

xD

isnt 4.28 ue5

[pearl elk]

Im attracted to UE5

[quasi mantle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zinc matrix]

just take rtxgi

[pearl elk]

maybe I can make a meta partner

and a team while Im at it

[zinc matrix]

just use rtxgi if u want ue5

[pearl elk]

I cant use RTX, I dont have Nvidya

[zinc matrix]

u dont need nvidia

https://giphy.com/gifs/mrw-bathroom-nekkid-DvyLQztQwmyAM

rtxgi runs on everything

[quasi mantle]

RTX is NVIDIA trademark tho

[zinc matrix]

runs on any gpu

[quasi mantle]

I can understand if RTGI could run on measly Intel iGPUs

[pearl elk]

it doesnt run on my phones gpu

[zinc matrix]

nobody cares about intel igpus

[quasi mantle]

I care

[zinc matrix]

or phones

99% dont care

[pearl elk]

Apple Mac sales are up 66%

[quasi mantle]

I'm an advocate of LowSpecGamer lol

[zinc matrix]

pretty weak arguments

all of u

[quasi mantle]

I develop with lower end hardware in mind, so I can go all out with optimisations.

Lower end hardware support = more reach = more people playing the game

[pearl elk]

There is no argument, the consensus is youre wrong 🙂

[zinc matrix]

sure. if you want facebook games

head on

ps u dont make any money with clients in india who pay 50% less for games

[quasi mantle]

I consider the real-time raytracing stuff to be an aftertought, and all the raster tricks are serving me well anyway.

I'm still considerate with the rest of the entire Asia, Spanish part of the Europe, and base PS4/Xbox One players.
I'm even thinking to reach the Nintendo Switch, if Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal can run on the go.

[pearl elk]

I'll save RT for the future in my 8K remaster

when computers can actually run it at competitive framerates

[zinc matrix]

60 fps not enough?

[quasi mantle]

60 FPS only for the rich owners of top end RTX cards, which is like a single tiny mole against your entire body skin.

[zinc matrix]

steam statistic does not represent real statistics

or so

[quasi mantle]

When we can have more reachability with good quality, why going for the niche? Cyberpunk 2077 isn't doing well on PS4/Xbox One and the huge amount of PC gamers because of being inconsiderate with lower end hardware.

[pearl elk]

I only got a Ryzen 9 5950X and a 6900XT, its not enough for RT 😛

[zinc matrix]

very rude to pick onle the bad ones.

and not majority of good games.

very rude.

[quasi mantle]

Yes, I'm Rude. My friend is Reno.

[pearl elk]

good games with RT, theres a joke 🙂

[zinc matrix]

metro exodus

[quasi mantle]

Metro Exodus isn't putting RT first, they still support 100% raster render.

[zinc matrix]

its only ray tracing.

runs with high fps

D

so what do you mean

[quasi mantle]

One thing for sure that I keep in mind:
Put realtime raytracing as an afterthought until RT capable GPUs are dirt cheap.

[zinc matrix]

are you just hating

[humble remnant]

News flash: majority of people still average out at a 1060 for their GPU

[pearl elk]

maybe we use the RT cores for AI instead

[humble remnant]

And do we even need RTGI

I'd rather take a game that supports all hardware than a game that supports only top end

[zinc matrix]

its all about hate here right now

[humble remnant]

Also because top end graphics are fucking expensive to make

It hogs up more dev time for a minor improvement

[quasi mantle]

It's all about being realistic, friendo

[pearl elk]

you know what woulda been cool, if there were RT cards which were like companion cards to GPU so you could boost up your RT and DLSS even on a mid range GPU

[quasi mantle]

We still consider the average market, because more people able to play the game = more sales

[humble remnant]

Aight but hear me out

SLI but for raytracing support

So you have your main GPU and with Nvlink/SLI you connect an RT accellerator

Or just make a second die to do the job already

[pearl elk]

if you had an onboard you could use the RT card for DLSS

but nope, Nvidia made it basically an SoC

[quasi mantle]

Shame it's an NVIDIA only thing, because DLSS is like TAA but less subtle ghosting
At least DLSS 2.0 is game agnostic, so it's one plugin away

[pearl elk]

thats okay, couple of years we're all gonna be running MX Macs with Nvidia GPUs

you know, after Apple buys Nvidia 😛

[humble remnant]

Waiting for the moment Nanite is good enough so that we can yeet tessellation so far it never lives again

[quasi mantle]

They planned that? Even if Apple had bad blood with NVIDIA?

Or am I confusing with AMD?

Also everyone on both Twitter and gamedev YouTube praises Persona 5 for its flashy UI, but those thing never sticks with me. I found Persona 5's UI to be too flashy and hard to follow.

For the love of god, I can't relate to those praises, no matter how hard I forced myself to try relate on them.

[pearl elk]

Dark Souls of game compliments

[stiff crystal]

I don't know a single person besides myself who hasn't liked Nier Automata

and I like games that play like that in general... I just didn't "get it"

[quasi mantle]

I guess my own game (being a high fantasy, more serious, action RPG) didn't work with Persona 5's UI language everyone simping for didn't help either.

I tried prototyping Persona 5 like UI in my game, and holy shit, it looked so messy and incoherent.
But, again, can't satisfy everyone, so fuck it. I went with more minimalistic boxy UI. To hell with so called cosplayable UI, if it didn't serve the purpose.

[pearl elk]

well that was the strangest ad ever

apparently Toyota have a robot with a big screen on it so you can beam yourself anywhere

[ivory lodge]

Once I get the Gameplay Ability System working, I'll be cooking with GAS!

[light spruce]

Can it beam my foot into Nvidia's dick?

[fathom wadi]

only with Nvidia knobworks.

[light spruce]

Of course they would have their own thing instead of using the open standard Bellend Assault Location Library Suite.

[quasi mantle]

Eurobeat intensifies

[foggy path]

I wonder where did I put that picture a friend sent me over years ago of his eurobeat album collection.. he's got like... few hundred albums

[light spruce]

it was funnier when I read it as "eurobat"

is eurobeat like the old German techno style?

[foggy path]

nope

it's an italian music genre derived from italodisco, but only really sold in japan

[light spruce]

well... that's a history that would explain why I'm not familiar with it

[foggy path]

nowdays it's a bit more widely available I guess but during its popularity peak it wasn't really published elsewhere

[light spruce]

is it even electronic music?

[foggy path]

yeah it is

[light spruce]

Okay. Italy just isn't one of the places that I really think of for that.

UK and Germany mostly.

[foggy path]

italodisco and related genres was pretty big in the 80s, they produced a lot of famous dance hits during the 90s and later too

Eiffel 65's Blue is probably one of the most well known from the 90s

[light spruce]

oh god

I still hate that track

[foggy path]

lol

Mo-Do also comes to mind.. Ein Zwei Polizei, he's actually italian even though all his songs are in german

[quasi mantle]

Also, deja vu
I've just been in this place before

[light spruce]

This place where you're remembering Blue and wishing you weren't?

[foggy path]

another friend was hanging out at Dave Rodgers' birthrday party couple ago lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQfFwd2-LNc

[light spruce]

This is not related to that at all, but through a series of things, I wound up looking at some code fonts today... https://www.jetbrains.com/lp/mono/ They really went HAM on that page to sell you on a free font.

[foggy path]

that seems to be the cool thing to do nowadays, not the only one I've seen where they really go all out with the page :D

[light spruce]

It wasn't really a complaint either. It's a pretty impressive page. It's just a lot of work versus "here's a code window where you can see how this font looks"

[foggy path]

Guess they need to have their web developers work on something

[light spruce]

Maybe so

Also... the most important thing I've learned from that video

It's absolutely possible to look super douchey with just a white button down

[foggy path]

lol

[quasi mantle]

About time I ditched Ubuntu Mono

[light spruce]

I never really cared for Ubunto Mono

I've been using Fira Code for a while now. Microsoft has Cascadia Code now which is similar in several areas to Fira Code. Both of them have ligatures

actually... wait one

https://www.programmingfonts.org/

[foggy path]

I just use whatever's default in Rider and whatever's default in my ArchLinux xfce terminal :P

[light spruce]

Not me!

[quasi mantle]

I don't use Rider, don't get the appeal behind it.
Also I'm kinda limited when it comes to int'l payment, and I'm broke, so I can't pay Rider anyway.

[foggy path]

well the UE version is free at least for time being

[light spruce]

Of course, I'm also the kind of dickhead that has a specially formatted and colored prompt in my zshell profile

[foggy path]

the appeal behind it is... it works 100x better than VS does unless you pay for a bunch of VS plugins and I don't know if it even with them works as well :P

[quasi mantle]

For the time being, don't know how long it'll last until I got charged and had to switch to the free version of VS2019, which does the job for me all this time.

Might as well not use it at all until I somehow become a billionaire and reached the high average income for US people in a month.

I already put on hold many subscription I paid for. My PS+ is already wasted, my FF14 would be wasted this month, my Netflix and Spotify already wasted this new year.

[light spruce]

I use vscode for my general text editing or writing scripts... and it's done really well working on a Risk of Rain 2 mod... But a large C project would definitely be pretty awful with it.

Though one could argue how well anything works with something as large as UE

@foggy path For some reason I'm surprised that you aren't using a much fancier wm

well, or fucking i3

[ivory lodge]

If this is the lounge, where is the singer?

@light spruce I wish I could use emacs with Unreal.

[fathom wadi]

get on the comms and I'll sing you song 😄

[quasi mantle]

I think I just got sleep deprivation

I felt dizzy and exhausted already throughout the entire trip to my daytime workplace

[fathom wadi]

there is a solution for that 😄

[quasi mantle]

Reset your sleeping pattern, yada yada
I know, if it weren't for the occasional crunch time

[fathom wadi]

I dont like to call it crunch. I prefer to call it "making up for previous slacking or bad management" 😄

[quasi mantle]

I would interpret it as the latter.
The crunch is unpaid, so depends on how much the client is willing to pay, considering they would pay low due to the lack of on-site events and still demanding for short deadline and unlimited revisions

[fathom wadi]

unpaid crunch is slavery and extortion. Do not accept it.

[quasi mantle]

It's the only job I could get, and I'm still broke due to COVID income declining

[pearl elk]

this is why Im Captain Crunch, I get all the doubloons

[fathom wadi]

its not a job at this point, it's slavery.

a job will pay you what you work

[quasi mantle]

If you want to bribe me some jobs far in the southeastern Asia, then feel free to suggest me a strike.

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-ship-arr-pirate-dance-pirate-dance-gif-12107966

[fathom wadi]

🙂 I feel for you if you are backed into a corner. I know it happens and you want to do what you can

Imagine what would happen if you went to the boss and said "I need paying or I can't afford to stay here". They will assess if it's worth paying you more or let you go. But being confident about what you are worth is vital.

[quasi mantle]

At this point some of my co-workers had laid off or resigned.
I don't have much time nor equipment to work on my portfolio. My discrete GPU is already FUBAR. And not much odd jobs that pays good are available now.

Probably it's a bit too late to work on animation creation and convice people to donate to Patreon by now anyway.

[fathom wadi]

From what I've seen of your help around the discord, you know enough to get paid in the job. I hope you resolve it and use the experience in future to tell these charlatans to go fuck themselves when they offer slavery and extort you based on your need to work.

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/pay-bills-basket-dream-job-basketball-any-job-gif-15167645

[fathom wadi]

been there. Got the psychosis. 😄

[zinc matrix]

can someone recommend godlike blueprint tuts

[cursive crypt]

There is a bug, the car didn't move after the refuel.

[zinc matrix]

but this isnt a bug or?

people so often say its a bug to things which arent a bug

like if you are on a slope on a hill and you cant injure enemy cuase he is on a lower slope than you.

they call that a bug

LOL

[cursive crypt]

You see better the road too.

[storm cosmos]

I have an idea for a game! I have to make it under a month going from not knowing any c++ to making this game. Is it possible?

Player will be able to jump with low gravity like the moon, with high air control.
He can shoot straight like a laser in star wars
There will be two enemies whereof one will be static and shoot the player if it gets close enough, and it will rotate toward the player
The other one will be movable and try to follow the character and shoot at the player while its moving

yes it has to be in c++

Changing the players air control and gravity seems simple, cuz its only parameters. However that shooting mechanism seems a bit difficult

[pearl elk]

jeebus learning c++, UE4 and how to make games all in under a month. Yeah sure why not, totally possible

Probably just easier to find a magic ring and wish your game into existence though, that'd only take a few days 😛

[zinc matrix]

cpp makes much more sense than bp

[pearl elk]

https://d1w7fb2mkkr3kw.cloudfront.net/assets/images/book/lrg/9780/6723/9780672315169.jpg

just get this book, then you can have the rest of your month free 🙂

sounds like a distraction, learning environments should be completely sterile and devoid of any emotion

its the only way to master the language of robots

https://blog.invaluable.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/2-brief-history-2.jpg

welcome to the C++ school of excellence

[storm cosmos]

yeah that lady with a batman logo is awesome. Watched her tutorial for 6h

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/batgirl-sexy-gif-20344563

[storm cosmos]

https://youtu.be/GQp1zzTwrIg

same person?

[pearl elk]

well C++ is a whole language and that only takes 10hrs so UE4 should only take you 4.5hrs

[storm cosmos]

i am confusion

[pearl elk]

Hi Confusion

[cursive crypt]

Is a friend asking you?

[raw spoke]

...

[quasi mantle]

Whoa, slow down, Sonic

It took me 2 years of BPing to get the gist of C++ in UE4, and I'm still haven't really pro at it. And I already learned the basics of C++ almost a decade earlier.

If you really want to go for under a month, I would recommend creating your own 2D game engine with software renderer instead. Unless the one who assigned you that task is a massive masochist and demands for 3D game.

[zinc matrix]

does anyone have gta5

@

[stiff crystal]

https://i.imgur.com/AlDp3hx.gif

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-wars-bad-batch-star-gif-19531523

[cursive crypt]

Damn BP crashing just for renaming a variable (ノ ゜Д゜)ノ ︵ ┻━┻

[cursive crypt]

lmao, at worst I won't have the opportunity to cause crashes while watching.

[torpid star]

┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

[light spruce]

LEAVE IT WHERE IT IS (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/table-flip-mess-gif-10386140

[light spruce]

Did that ten hours include lost productivity due to infatuation probabilities?

[pearl elk]

Im infatuated with C++

[fathom wadi]

Im infuriated with my empty wallet

[light spruce]

I'm interested in my head not hurting

[fathom wadi]

when my head hurts, I stab myself in the leg with a spoon. It distracts me from the headache

[pearl elk]

sounds like you guys shoulda learnt C++

[light spruce]

It's probably the onset of a migraine.. which is just what I need before going to get a covid vaccination

[grim obsidian]

When i get a headache I ask my roommate to blast me to space

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/trampoline-jump-dog-shiba-inu-moon-pls-gif-6008072

[light spruce]

And here I thought there were concerns about NFL head injuries

I'm reminded of two things by that... one, how much I hate "pls"

https://www.programmingfonts.org/#comic-shanns and how much of a monster that person is

[fathom wadi]

@pearl elk I did learn C++ 😉

[light spruce]

I shouldn't have gotten up so early

[pearl elk]

your wallet doesnt agree

[fathom wadi]

man... I got 5 kids to feed.

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/eyeroll-whatever-rolling-eyes-gif-10463999

[fathom wadi]

the inconsiderate buggers keep growing too and needing new shoes and clothes. Don't even get me started on the food bill :p Who knows, maybe I'll win the 11secondclub competition and be able to pawn the laptop for some cheese money.

[median wraith]

https://starecat.com/content/wp-content/uploads/parents-we-want-grandkids-me-best-i-can-do-is-a-dog.jpg

[light spruce]

"and not even a young dog"

"and also it's a goldfish"

"the cracker"

[median wraith]

Don't worry past the 18 don't need new clothes

whats that like 10 years more ?

[fathom wadi]

you would be surprised. My 22 year old has all kinds of costs from housing to clothing and after losing her job at the start of the pandemic, I've had to help out a few times.

[median wraith]

so like me

[fathom wadi]

you not working right now?

[median wraith]

I mean after 18 is just expected*

[median wraith]

yeah but was on the same situation

until recently

[fathom wadi]

ahh. good to know you have some work. Waste of talent if you weren't

[median wraith]

technically in my country the age when the people leave their parents house raised to 32

because the economy and no jobs and mediocre jobs over the country

[median wraith]

ty for such kind words

👀

what about you ?

[foggy path]

My mom has stopped asking us about this lol

[median wraith]

on my cause isn't because I don't want to, but rather because by money/time/stability and mainly because I don't have someone it's impossible

Its seems like this days nobody wants a relationship or so (aside of the same ones over and over that are taken already)

[fathom wadi]

I'm just grinding away, seeing what sticks. Currently doing to the 11 second animation challenge but I have a small physics game I started to develop. I might have to scrub up my portfolio and try get something that pays consistently though because we have ran out of space in my home and I'm going to have to give up my bedroom soon so the kids have enough room.

[median wraith]

mmmm feels bad

[foggy path]

I'm not even interested in kids which makes finding any relationship also a struggle because majority of women in my age group have kids it seems, and the ones who don't... a lot of them are just... not for me lol

also tinder is the worst thing to happen to online dating because everyone only uses that here and it's literally the worst experience if you don't want to waste time talking to randos

[fathom wadi]

yeah the pandemic has not been kind to me. I read about others making bank but I was on the edge of burnout by the time it hit, and I powered into almost a year of full on burnout until I finally put my foot down on Jan 1st this year. However I started easing back into it by learning more Blender/art stuff than code. So im breaking back into my UE4 stride helping people out and doing this competition for sequencer. It's been a good thing for my portfolio, but bad for my wallet.

[median wraith]

On my age range aka early 30 and end range at 20, seems like all the womans in this case interested in relationships have someone or are married already, seems like came late to the party or something 😂
And yeah the dating things never work, the people usually there its because have other problems aside from the fact they don't have couple, mainly barriers that don't allow them to have it

[foggy path]

yeah that's about my range as well :P

[light spruce]

like being married sociopaths?

[cursive crypt]

But, but... there are good ppl like you also there.

checkmate

[median wraith]

only gods know where

[light spruce]

solution seems obvious: date men

[cursive crypt]

^

Less competition.

[median wraith]

hahaha someone said that time ago XD

[cursive crypt]

In fact we joked about this yesterday. The requirements are also kinda less too.

[median wraith]

there is another fact that don't helps, aside from the Corona Virus, I was in the bank, 2 public organism and my account manager company in a single day, all the people working there are womans but over 40 or 45, so I don't know where my age range people is at or works at

[foggy path]

There's one interesting person I met on twitch but I'm not that creep who "slides into DMs" of attractive women online lol

[light spruce]

I will quote a friend of mine now... "Hey, moms need dick too."

[median wraith]

Once in Tinder or an alike app set by error to look for mans too and 5 came to talk to me in 12 mins. In 2 years 5 womans came to talk with me

[cursive crypt]

That's how it is since time memorial.

[foggy path]

it's like.. "yeah get a hobby you can find women there".. yeah my fucking hobby is sitting at home programming computer games thanks a lot for advice

[cursive crypt]

waifus for such ppl

[foggy path]

lol

[light spruce]

hahaha

[median wraith]

I don't like to meet people from social nets etc anymore

its kinda strange

[light spruce]

I made some joke about this knitting place a few years back.. and somebody, "yeah, you probably will find women there."

[fathom wadi]

@foggy path I found my wife on social media whilst I was game developing. We met because she posted a meme about guns you would choose in a zombie apocalypse. I negged her about her choices and explained why. The rest is history.

[foggy path]

lol

nice one

[light spruce]

Though I probably said something about not wanting to date someone's grandma

[cursive crypt]

haha, good to hear about the "success" stories.

[light spruce]

best gun for an apocalypse: the one you have

[fathom wadi]

Someone once asked Joey Diaz "If someone stepped upto you, what would kick in first? The jiu-jitsu you know, or the streets?" and Joey perfectly replied "A gun. I'm 54, I have a .22 jammed up my ass and it's pointing at you right now". I always loved that.

[median wraith]

No, i do others like go in bike but there is no bikes, even if there are bikes you go solo for the yolo.
I did wood airplanes too, all the people there was one guy of my age and 5 guys at 65+ years old

[foggy path]

lol

[light spruce]

Considering the poor reliability of rimfire ammo.. I'd roll the dice.

[median wraith]

You know the situation isn't good when some important cartoonist with 500.000 followers says he cannot find someone at instagram

[fathom wadi]

instagram people are all fake tho. Who would date an image of what someone wants you to think? Its based on a lie and thats never the way to start a relationship

[median wraith]

well is a man, usually this one just draw

the people that post a lot of stories and their whole life there then yeah they cannot have any kind of relationship

this one just sounded desperate the other day as is over 30+ and just go with friends and so but are always the same group

isn't like he post such things or his life

[light spruce]

I went with the "Get old enough to stop caring" option

[fathom wadi]

thats how my last "self-whoring" run went. I just didn't try. The lack of care seemed to attract more women. So I just went with it as I had 10 years of celibacy previously.

[zinc matrix]

get old enough to be good with game dev.

lmao

[light spruce]

It certainly seems that giving a fuck about anything at all is just the wrong move in every situation

[cursive crypt]

Sounds great.

[light spruce]

It's okay though. The simulation integer overflowed last year

[fathom wadi]

its hard to avoid giving AF about your family though. Myself? Couldn't care less, but those people are my life. And I am trying so hard to make life better for them. But I take one step forward, two steps back. Still, time to stop complaining for the day and back to work. Have fun

[light spruce]

There are exceptions. Always are.

Time for me to hit the head, gear up, and delta; really looking forward to this three days of arm pain shit

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/bluesbrothers-sellmeyourchildren-sell-creepy-blues-brother-gif-19009878

[ivory swallow]

eh https://twitter.com/playstation/status/1389267179095293955?s=21

PlayStation (@PlayStation)

Announcing PlayStation’s new partnership with Discord: https://t.co/W9C8SR7OXx

Retweets

10007

Likes

47995

Twitter · May 3, 2021, 5:14 PM

[fathom wadi]

I've been following an Epic guy who has added an awesome physical melee component to ALS. It's still being worked on but it makes me happy that it's getting Epic love.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4oqMLa-0oY

maybe that is him

ahh no its not. Caleb Longmire made it

[proud pier]

what love? where?

[fathom wadi]

in the video I posted.

[proud pier]

from Epic I meant

I don't see anything mentioned

[fathom wadi]

the guy who made the video works at Epic

[proud pier]

Ah

Who is he?

[proud pier]

I'm over here trying to catch up on Epic v Apple

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/05/03/apple-vs-epic-live-updates/

Finally have some time today

[fathom wadi]

I saw there was arguments for market share and thought "hmm. bad argument in a capitalist court that isn't interested in the anti-trust situation for now". But what do I know. Just an average joe waiting for the results 🙂

[proud pier]

Dunno, reading recap still. But, the whole Discord + PS thing caught me off guard, but makes sense that MSFT take-over didn't happen. But I don't think I have the full story yet. I don't get why Discord wouldn't try to do cross-play chat with all consoles. So maybe I'm missing something.

[fathom wadi]

I dont know either. A couple of years ago I applied to the dev program to try implement it with Unreal Engine and they completely shut me down. Then they shut down the dev program and rebuilt it. So now we have this new sdk. Perhaps they knew there was platform money to be made and have been working towards that angle. But what worries me is Discord has so many exploits that putting it on a fixed hardware platform is asking for trouble. Especially one that has already been hacked itself

[solid aurora]

my only experience with sony is that I don't want work with their consoles any more

[torpid star]

yeah I'm not entirely comfortable with Discord having an RCE every other day

[solid aurora]

I shit you not

I don't know how people can tell over internet it is good experience

I mean as long as I didn't have to leave visual studio it was good enough

but once tried to do something outside of PS comfort zone

it's utter bullshit

god I hope sony will not buy any majority stake in Discord

[fathom wadi]

I don't really how that is different than working with Unreal Engine overall. Do something other than the Epic way and you are asking for trouble 😄

[solid aurora]

well wpic does not require static ip registered with sony for testing multipler

[light spruce]

There are so many vulnerabilities in all kinds of shit at this point

complexity, reliance on external frameworks/libraries, sometimes some ignorance in there, or somebody just overlooks something

[fathom wadi]

@solid aurora yeah that would suck as I get a new IP everytime my router reboots

today is grinding my gears and to top it all off, I've had to sign into Epic Games 3 times today. Even though I never left the page, it just times out.

I'd love to know the reason for this, genuinely

im having to listen to tutorials on how to use the Epic Launcher and Editor right now. It's like I've regressed.

bloody 11secondanimation competition has some funny requirements.

[fathom wadi]

I guess we all need to go back to basics sometimes right? yawns

[proud pier]

You all see this yet?

[fathom wadi]

hah they paid $150k for Torchlight? Seems like way too much for a game that was already whored around the free game circuit for some time.

the question is though, is that legit?

[fresh heath]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56975466

[light spruce]

Missing the one that says "we're giving you the business from your new girlfriend right now"

[fathom wadi]

you could say the same about some of the windows patches too 😄

[quasi mantle]

🪟 Microsoft's Cascadia Code
or
🧠 JetBrains Mono

[solid aurora]

good luck running visual studio with any amount of ram

xD

[quasi mantle]

I'm running VS2019 with 8 GB of RAM.
It's DDR3, so not quick, but it works. And I don't need Dream's luck to get it working.

[soft night]

Cascadia Code PL

[foggy path]

The antitrust investigators finally managed to break up Microsoft HEYOO

[broken sigil]

I'm a time traveler lol

[pearl pewter]

No you was just born one day later than us.. 🤦‍♂️

[proud pier]

That slide is legit. This is part of the official disclosures today

I mean, it's interesting that it feels like they overpaid for Celeste and Inside

Especially Celeste

But most people barely got any real money sadly 😦

[fathom wadi]

yeah realised that after 🙂 I guess its worth it as marketing cost, plus they might get future rights to redistribute also, so it can be remarketing at cost everytime it gets pushed out again

[proud pier]

You know what's worse about this?

That everyone on this list is reading this right now...

And wondering... WTF

Most are definitely PO'd

[fathom wadi]

yeah imagine being the people who got the lower end values. Sick AF 😄

[proud pier]

ANd this is just today's slides though

Imagine what other goodies are coming up!

[foggy path]

inb4 all the hot takes on social media

[proud pier]

too late

[fathom wadi]

damn I miss twitter at times like this. I get to defend Epic against edge lords all day. 😄

[foggy path]

I don't really see any of that on twitter tbh :P

maybe I should start reading replies to epic's tweets

[quasi mantle]

Ah yes, nothing more interesting than fighting against Steam elitists.

I swear, Steam is the main factor that caused the fight between disingenuous dense gamers against developers, and developed toxic culture along the way.

[fathom wadi]

aye. The whole anti-EGS thing made no sense as the same people arguing against it were using 3 or 4 different stores already. Yet they refuse the ONE that wants cross platform, cross integrated storefronts where you can consolidate. It made no sense until you realise that fleebs only read the clickbait and don't think for themselves.

[quasi mantle]

I still remember the elaborate hoax about EGL collecting data (which is actually anonymous), and people get outraged about it, with bringing up how Tencent is a private stakeholder of Epic. But guess what, Steam do the same thing, and hardly any people outraged by it.

[fathom wadi]

in wrestling terms, these people are journeymen. Jobbers for Valve 😄

[quasi mantle]

I could've just sell my game only on Epic Store and GOG for the sake of it.

[fathom wadi]

then you would have people complaining you sold out for the exclusivity money. You can't win with stupid people. They will never lose an argument because even when they have already lost, they continue to argue.

[quasi mantle]

To hell with the double standard.
GOG have lesser feature due to the no DRM nature of it (and I support no DRM), but nobody complained because GOG didn't take a jab at Steam.

[fathom wadi]

If you go out into the wild and ask people about Cyberpunk, the average joe consensus is that the game failed somehow. However regardless of the initial launch (show me a triple A game with a good launch) and Sony removing the PS4 version from sale until it was patched, it made over $300million and increased the GOG storefront userbase by 400%. Not bad for a game that was made on slave wages. Also it was actually a truly great game. I had no more than 3 bugs on PC pre-patches. My wife had already finished it twice on PS4 (not the pro version either).

[broken sigil]

I really like it, plan on playing it again soon

[fathom wadi]

me too. Just a little busy trying to make some money to survive on right now. But I'd love to finish my playthrough

[tulip orbit]

I have to wait to play it, until my house is sold and I've got the money, ...and a new computer...

I've got a few boxes of old PC games, and old consoles to sell on ebay. should make some good cash

[light spruce]

Given that there were a number of skills and cyberware that didn't function at all, quite a few people had more bugs than that. Some weren't readily apparent.

[quasi mantle]

GTA V is still fun to mod after all these years tho

Although the online counterpart is shitty nowadays

[light spruce]

You can see places in the plot and sidequests where there were either threads that didn't get finished or there were obvious missed opportunities

I've seen arguments where some of the expectations people had were more extrapolations from whatwas shown rather than being totally explicit... but irrespective of the actual design intent, that messaging wasn't controlled or corrected

It's a pretty good game for what it is... just there some clear differences in expectation

And some dumb decisions in the execution. Clothes should have been purely cosmetic. With the level of utilization that braindances had, it would have been better to not even have it. The monowire is hot garbage. I think there are only two skills that directly support smart weapons. SMGs use rifle ammo while being objectively worse than rifles. Without speccing hard into crafting, you'll just wind up throwing iconic stuff in the garbage because you can't get better versions of it.

TL;DR - It's such a dogshit game that I'm playing it right now

[quasi mantle]

In regards to clothes, me and my team discussed this aspect for PAST FUTURE.

After looking at complaints about how the outfit affects the stats in CP2077, we decided to separate cosmetic outfits from the invisible armour equipments that affect the defense stats, and I joked about how there will be situations where the main heroine appears to wear only bikini set but having high defense stats from equipping invisible mythril armours.

[light spruce]

aka: shit people would do with mods as long as you ignore the part where you can pretty much roll like that as is... assuming you find skimpy clothes with mod slots

which is the core of the issue

[cursive crypt]

Having the top armor in game looks like a bunch of cotton strings is inevitable.

[light spruce]

Current character would look like even more of an asshole if I didn't have a script that hides the awful hat I have on

[cursive crypt]

Hmm... not bad visuals has this game 🤔

[light spruce]

Some things never get old.. like slow motion sliding with a shotgun

Though.. nightmare fuel this.. definitely gets old. Don't forget to check your ragdoll physics, kids!

You can turn into something that looks like the result of a teleportation accident?

because I feel like you should probably see a doctor about that

[pearl elk]

CDR is kinda undervalued as a stock atm

[light spruce]

I don't know; I'm pretty sure the days of burning CDs is over

[solid aurora]

Outrage curlture (among other "cultures")

people mad because Epic snatched exclusive game to their store and can't buy it on Steam

but wait ! they still can have it on PC

besides it's moot point

it'ss internet

better

[fathom wadi]

aye

[solid aurora]

it is gamer internet

it have miniscule representation of average customer

[fathom wadi]

I congratulate any devs who can sell exclusivity tbh. It's a safety net at the most turbulent time of a game's existence.

[solid aurora]

yeah those outrage people probabaly work 8-16

some of them have hard jobs, but they probabaly don't complain

better understading of why someone want to get guarnteed money

at this point I'm pretty sure most complaining people are either between 14-20 yo, or 35+ with kids and feeling they wasted their life

normaly happy people do not go over internet complaining about the fact they can't buy games on steam

and telling it is anti customer because somebody took money

like yeah im sure Epic pointed guns at those studios and told them to take money -;-

but either wya

the average user aquisition price on EGS

is really small

about 2.3 $

that's steal, most other companies would kill for it

[median wraith]

" wasted their life" I think thats something every person things by now

na these with kids and over 30 just pirate everything

[cursive crypt]

What about these 30+ with no kids? 🤔

[median wraith]

these buy the things

[cursive crypt]

system error

[solid aurora]

still better than complaining on internet about how they feel ; d

[median wraith]

thats because don't even have anybody to talk with, can't pay 5$ for a game, won't pay 55$ for psychologist session to talk with

the rant generates more rant until you are a rantditaniun

[solid aurora]

sounds radioactive

purge it

!

[fathom wadi]

im 44 with 7 children total (5 of my own and 2 I raise as my own). That's pretty much my life complete. The rest is gravy.

[cursive crypt]

Nice man 👍 Gotta wonder how you have a time for deving, or you don't? 😄

[fathom wadi]

they were spread over 22 years so it's not like im a rabbit of some kind. 🙂 Also I dev all day, everyday when im not ill

its got so bad now that my relaxation time isn't playing games so much anymore. Instead I fire up Blender and start something new.

[cursive crypt]

Not surprised. Ain't no have time to play, but to make the play.

[median wraith]

At least I got time for friends right now

[cursive crypt]

"friend"? 🤔 😄

[median wraith]

lol

[broken sigil]

Had to google what "friend" means

[cursive crypt]

Unidentified keyword, maybe you meant "int" ?

[broken sigil]

Lol

[median wraith]

that hard is to find people at all ?

Well people at jobs is too busy with their lifes and you can't make friends there at all so

and you cannot go outside so must be

[broken sigil]

I work from home (in general not just during covid) so meeting new people for me has become impossible

I can't go on a street and ask random people if they want to be my friends :person_shrugging:

[cursive crypt]

After one long relationship, kinda split with my friends. Turned out they were replaced with my ex's circle. I guess, wisdom comes with experience - post-factum.

If you wear a UE4 t-shirt, I would welcome you stranger 🙂

[broken sigil]

Speaking of covid.. I tested positive the other day 😐

[solid aurora]

well it clloud be ebola and not covid

[broken sigil]

I have a ue4 t-shirt :p

When I did the megajam sponsorship thing with my mp assets I got one

I barely wore it, It's been sitting in my closet so it doesn't wear out lol

[cursive crypt]

It will be all fine, just help your body 😉

[fathom wadi]

@broken sigil jeez dude hope you don't get it to bad. Luckily its late season and they can handle it if it gets bad but get well soon

[light spruce]

Did you get vaccinated beforehand?

[broken sigil]

Thanks 💙

I am in a higher risk category since I had 2 lung infections when I was younger and a bunch of allergy problems

But it's my 4th day today and I'm feeling relatively fine

[light spruce]

What's wrong with your shin?

Shit, is everyone falling apart right now?

[broken sigil]

I haven't, I registered for the vaccine but didn't get my turn yet to get it 😐

[cursive crypt]

You will get the best vaccine now 😛

[light spruce]

Damn. Because that does reduce the severity even if you get the virus

I'm on deck to get the first of mine Thursday

[broken sigil]

Yeah

Curious how long the immunity will last now

But I think even if I get it again it should be much weaker

I think at least

[light spruce]

I haven't checked up on it in a while.. but didn't they say something about only having antibodies for around six months?

[broken sigil]

Hmm I think so yeah

[cursive crypt]

"six months" heard that the other day too.

[light spruce]

Because I remember that being one of the issues of going for non-vaccine herd immunity... even ignoring the potential lethality, it just wasn't a long enough timeframe for it to overlap that way

[broken sigil]

Yeah

[cursive crypt]

the 6 months comment was for a vaccine tho

Some people say that vaccine can join into your regular yearly flu one.

[light spruce]

no shit; it was a fucking terrible idea

[broken sigil]

Pretty sure if you gained immunity (not with a vaccine) you are immune till a new "version" of covid comes around

Which happens every few months

[light spruce]

People have definitely had it more than once already

[broken sigil]

Yeah

Been a lot of cases here

[light spruce]

Even before identified variants

[broken sigil]

Would be good to know if it would at least be with weaker symptoms if I get it again eventually

[light spruce]

I'm not looking forward to having to get a vaccine for coivd every year too... comboing that with a flu shot is pretty much guaranteed to leave you feeling like shit

That part is going to depend on how soon it happened

and, obviously, if it's a shittier variant

I mean, I hope you just don't get it again

I'm still just invasively curious about ponkis;'s's''s''s's shin situation

[broken sigil]

It's so annoying to see people on social media claiming covid doesn't exist or whatever, I knew 2 people that died from it

I guess they will realize their BS when they get it or someone they know

[normal prism]

I believe that to be the case. It's what happens with vaccines that don't have a high immunity protection % too (AZ/J&J)

The course of the illness is less severe

[light spruce]

Yeah... that's the problem. It takes something like that for them to get their head out of their ass.

And as malicious as I can feel towards people for being wilfully ignorant of serious things... they still don't deserve that.

[broken sigil]

Yeah

[light spruce]

The bone donor part is what threw me. I would have just assumed you broke it somehow because of the plates

[median wraith]

About the vaccines they said 6 months, still you aren't immnune ever, just less susceptible to be hit harder

[light spruce]

I had a friend who managed to break his femur... and the EMTs were freaking out because it takes a lot of force to do that. He has a scar on his ass because they basically just pound a steel spike through there to hold the shit to gether

Probably the right one for that, yeah. But shit, man, did you like shatter the thing?

[broken sigil]

I actually never realized you are not a native English speaker

[median wraith]

just as me

[cursive crypt]

What you are doing with ALS? 🤔

[light spruce]

Yeesh. I've broken teeth (not fun) but managed to avoid any broken bones thus far

I don't know what ALS is.. other than the medical condition

[cursive crypt]

A famous locomotion free plugin on the MP

[light spruce]

oh wait, advanced locomotion system(s)

[solid aurora]

i highly advise against using it

beyond checking out what you can copy from it

[light spruce]

I'm painting some stuff... and I'm trying to pull some parts together... I kinda hate it... but then I also promised to share some art with a lady...

I don't know what to do and I'm tempted to make stick figures in mspaint

[solid aurora]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTA1SIXMymk

I do recommend checking this out when it is realased in about two weeks

I'm not author, so I'm not shilling (;

[median wraith]

Is the people with 1-2 years of experience good enough to teach new developers at all ? I spot this at universities here

[light spruce]

does that blueprint to C++ stuff produce anything resembling a useable base?

[solid aurora]

no

it's typical generator

[light spruce]

experience in what, how new, and teaching them what?

[median wraith]

Game design

[solid aurora]

game design

tfu

useless

[median wraith]

lol

[solid aurora]

better learn programming

I mean I haven't meet game designer yet

which has any use beyond

pissing me off

[light spruce]

Oh. Fuck if I know. I don't think duration really works out for that

[cursive crypt]

@zinc matrix you know that there is a c++ port of ALS?

[median wraith]

this is kinda sad when I spot this kind of things of people with 1 up 2 years of experience teaching others or selling tutorials

the fact is it works as got a community

[light spruce]

Because there are people who have been in the industry for a long time and they still have jobs and suck shit at it

[median wraith]

don't even have self experience further than it so

[cursive crypt]

I'm working on locomotion too. Sometimes I check how ALS is doing some stuff and adapt.

Ofc, mostly Blueprints because prototyping

Aah.. I kinda start to understand it.. after too much time spent on working on animbp stuff

[light spruce]

I usually tend to copypasta and then tinker with it because there's a 70% chance it doesn't do what I want it to and a 50% chance it doesn't work.

[cursive crypt]

I can say this for most 3rd party plugins, free or expensive as hell

[light spruce]

It's very much an art. So you can understand it and be good at it in a short time frame or you can do it for years and still be terrible.

[solid aurora]

I'm probabaly masochistic

but I still click on EGS threads on r/pcgaming

[median wraith]

yeah here this person is giving examples of other games and talking overall as a community manager, maybe don't need more at all

[light spruce]

See also: Luke Smith, Alan Kertz

[cursive crypt]

And trying to bring sense into the people over there? :)

[solid aurora]

nah

im past that

😄

[median wraith]

This almost looks like a joke
https://twitter.com/stephentotilo/status/1389316121275379714
https://twitter.com/stephentotilo/status/1389318451878051840

Stephen Totilo (@stephentotilo)

Lawyer to Sweeney: "Are you familiar with the power source for the Switch?"

Twitter · May 3, 2021, 8:29 PM

Stephen Totilo (@stephentotilo)

Key evidence introduced at trial just now

Twitter · May 3, 2021, 8:38 PM

[light spruce]

Ideally, you want both experience an understanding... but somehow, experience gained by failing upwards is prized so much more

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/stephentotilo/status/1389316570221006856

Stephen Totilo (@stephentotilo)

They've handed him a PS5. He has correctly identified what it is.

Twitter · May 3, 2021, 8:30 PM

lol

[light spruce]

The trial where everyone is going to look like disingenuous dog shit

I really need to go back and find out the thing that made me think Sweeney was nuts. It was similar to Nicholas Negroponte asking about "why anyone needs to download movies through the internet"

[pearl elk]

I think Im gonna name my crypto... Thoughts and Prayers

[light spruce]

Thots and Brayers

[solid aurora]

The man is really on the mission

it's probabaly why

hard to believe that someone with milions of dollars really want to change something and not doing to get more rich [;

[light spruce]

I also kinda miss "Epic MegaGames"

[solid aurora]

if Tim wants more money it's only because with more money you can bring changes easier

[zinc matrix]

hello, and sorry for the question.. this server is for unreal engine?

[pearl elk]

Im pleased to know Mr Sweeney can point out a PS5

[median wraith]

Si

[light spruce]

It is. Except for when it turns into my "not Twitter feed"

[zinc matrix]

Gracias

[light spruce]

But that's really only this channel

[solid aurora]

all this moving best channel bottom so less people will end up here

and still

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/simply-the-best-tina-turner-gif-10490189

[solid aurora]

the second best is Audio where Aaron teases and leaks UE5

[zinc matrix]

i think thats illegal

[light spruce]

loloollol

[pearl elk]

yeah it is, why not use orthographic view

[soft night]

may the 4th be with you

[light spruce]

Really though, anyone who gives you a hard time about something like that is the same kind of wanker that goes into the bucket of "This console/OS/smart speaker/bed sheet is BEST"

[pearl elk]

Stan Lee > George Lucas, fite me!

[light spruce]

Do we still have to fight if I agree with you?

[pearl elk]

you can but you have to do it in a friendly neighbourhood way

https://tenor.com/view/wussy-fight-die-int-west-gif-20424046

[light spruce]

Okay... well.. I can handle the elevation part... but I'm not smart enough to invent a wrist-mounted device ...that ... spurts..... a ... sticky...... fluid.

Spider-Man just got a lot more weird

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-may-the4th-starwars-day-may-the-fourth-be-with-you-gif-5415260

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/come-on-bring-it-on-come-here-spiderman-doctor-octopus-gif-14586594

[light spruce]

I would be a terrible Spider-Man. Because, yeah, I would definitely live by that "With great power comes great responsibility" thing... but sometimes that'd mean the responsibility to put some people down.

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/noob-master69-endgame-avengers-gif-18055481

this is my spirit animal 😛

[light spruce]

I mean, look at Batman. How many lives could that rich bastard have saved by putting some super villains in the ground?

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/cjb1967-stan-lee-spiderman-gif-19164588

[pearl elk]

but but youre not allowed to kill villains you have to be a nice hero

[light spruce]

I think we've been over Fat Thor before

[pearl elk]

So when is Marvel day?

[light spruce]

where I'd totally punch someone in the mouth for being a dickhead on the internet

[pearl elk]

I thought Id just do it on May the 4th cuz its all Disney anyways 🙂

[light spruce]

that is not the correct emote for that

[soft night]

the moral code there is for to be hero

monsy that is not how it works

[pearl elk]

you should do a Johnny Cage dick punch

[light spruce]

😟 maybe

[soft night]

monsy could be with the bad batch

[pearl elk]

oh wait thats WB, we celebrate that on Sep 7th

[light spruce]

Much like James Brown, "I can't do the splits no more"

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/mk11-mortal-kombat-mk-netherrealm-gif-18623117

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-funny-luke-gif-5318177

if you want googly eyes

[light spruce]

Which is actually a line from an old BMW promotion (with Clive Owen (and, in that case, Gary Oldman)) and not a poor taste "the man's dead" kind of thing

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-dancing-robot-chicken-adult-gif-4801224

Lobo > Sir Jar Jar Binks

[soft night]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-banana-jar-jar-gungan-style-gif-20176648

[pearl elk]

gungan style

https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/playstation-partners-with-discord-makes-minority-investment/

so this is cool, PSN support finally

[solid aurora]

https://app.box.com/s/6b9wmjvr582c95uzma1136exumk6p989/file/806841789528

[quasi mantle]

I just lost my Control Rig keys

[solid aurora]

so PUBG was not one off deal

but roaylties

[quasi mantle]

Hours of keyframing lost with one crash

[light spruce]

Not to be a dick... but .. wasn't it you who also lost some blueprint shit the other day?

[cursive crypt]

UE crashes sometimes.

Especially if you start walking near the edges. Like renaming a BP struct.

[light spruce]

I don't remember the kinds of relatively basic things I've done that have caused Unreal to blow up

But I think "never rename anything ever" is probably sage advice

[cursive crypt]

One of my favourite things was importing an UDIM. If there is a file from the series which has a char off, it crashed the editor.

[light spruce]

I can crash basically anything

[cursive crypt]

You are not hired.

[light spruce]

I have two great testing related skills... one is that ad-hoc ability to just stumble into weird shit

The other is "What happens if I do this?"

[cursive crypt]

Obligatory: noooh, you are not supposed to do this.

[solid aurora]

holy shit

[light spruce]

I see potential geometry exploits all over the place

[solid aurora]

Epic is m,aking some serious money from merchandizing

but then

I shoulldn't be surprised even in Poland in average super market I can find Fortnie Magazine

in line with Minecraft ones

[cursive crypt]

Uuh... There are magazines? lol

[solid aurora]

yeap

[light spruce]

Is there a jump button? I'm going to find some place to get out of the level geometry because someone was lazy.

[solid aurora]

showing you skins of all things

[light spruce]

amphetamines just made it worse

Because it's that much easier to spend 90 minutes trying to jump through a wall

[cursive crypt]

Little you know. I just crashed Discord mobile while typing a message.

[light spruce]

I know pretty bigly since you said something

(I also feel like some folks need to do some ram testing)

[quasi mantle]

I didn't lose any BP in the last 2 month. :/

[zinc matrix]

Does anyone know the frosty editor a safe program?

[fathom wadi]

its safe but unless you have a Frostbite license, you won't be able to use it

[solid aurora]

?

[fathom wadi]

or at least I wouldn't have thought so as its got a pretty strict license

[solid aurora]

whaaat ?

[fathom wadi]

perhaps it will work within a game that has frostbite engine with modding enabled tho

[light spruce]

I guess I confused you for someone else; it happens

[solid aurora]

I use Frosty

and work fine

for any games it support

[fathom wadi]

yeah figured as much

[light spruce]

not even people who have to use Frostbite have really wanted to use it

[solid aurora]

well it is just bigger version of internal tool

which means it is probabaly crap

about internal tools

the only good things I have ever heard

were about Anvil Engine

(Ubisoft)

[light spruce]

It's able to produce some pretty great visuals, but it's apparently a shit show working with it. Dragon Age Inquisition looked fantastic. Mass Effect Andromeda was basically a train wreck on every possible front.

[solid aurora]

dont talk the internet meme

Mass Effect Andormeda

was good game

it really haven't had any tech issues that made it unplayable

it was typical shit show spun by people who choose EA as worst company

and don't realize Nestle is far worse

[tribal geyser]

in your opinion 😅

[solid aurora]

maybe

but it certainly wasn't as shit as internet trying to paint it

[cursive crypt]

Aaah... tbf, I played it like last year or two, so it was greatly debugged.

However, I still remember one floating mountain.

[tribal geyser]

Played it recently and it was... certainly still broken
Just not as broken as release

[cursive crypt]

Like you can go under it with your car.

[solid aurora]

what exactly is broken in it ?

I Played it like uhm

last week

haven';t noticed anything outragous

[cursive crypt]

Man, the release was so fun. These faces... lmao

[tribal geyser]

Crashes
Animations out of sync with vocals
Character customization didn't match the in world look
Lots of issues with HDR (tho windows and HDR in general is a mess)

Performance was fine, and I found the gameplay not as engaging as the previous trilogy

[fathom wadi]

Is anyone else underwhelmed by the promo pics of the Mass Effect remasters?

[cursive crypt]

No? Did you browsed it?

[solid aurora]

no

I preorder it

[;

[fathom wadi]

I saws it on das internets

[quasi mantle]

They can't use Unreal Engine 4 tho

[fathom wadi]

ME3 was on UDK right?

[quasi mantle]

Mass Effect trilogy was using Unreal Engine 3

And you know how different it is between UE3 and UE4

[fathom wadi]

it should be an easy upgrade then. Unrealscript ain't that far away from what we have in unreal C++. Cascade should come over pretty well. Matinee still have legacy support I believe.

[quasi mantle]

Probably they got the gameplay system goes deeper than what UnrealScript allows them to.

[fathom wadi]

yeah perhaps

external classes were handles differently for licensed customers too

sorry bad typing. brain dying. must sleep

[quasi mantle]

And UE3's backend is like night and day compared to UE4's

[cursive crypt]

Sometimes, while I play I keep a record of things I notice in a game.
For ME:A, I got one small list of issues I have written down.
Some examples were: GUI popping artifacts, sudden rebuild of shaders, sound attenuation errors, fullscreen issues, a lot of light flickers, cut scene stuttering and etc. list goes on.

[fathom wadi]

@quasi mantle they could load up the dll's in UE4 and write wrappers for them 😄 #cheesemethods 😄

[light spruce]

They said they had plenty of issues developing it because they had to use Frostbite, but the engine team didn't give the slightest fuck

[quasi mantle]

I would guess Life Is Strange don't go beyond UnrealScript restriction, so they could port the game to UE4 in mobile

[cursive crypt]

Life is boring.

[light spruce]

Life is pointless.

[cursive crypt]

^

[quasi mantle]

Frostbite doesn't get generalised beyond the FPS, so yeah.
Even NFS The Run is the only few games that uses Frostbite 2.

[fathom wadi]

Life is a simulation. You can restart it if you purchase a restart token. But I'd wait for the DLC.

[cursive crypt]

I dunno there will be a DLC

[light spruce]

If I wrote down all the broken shit I encountered in games.. it'd be so much worse for me. I already remember enough without a permanent, written record.

The simulation already had an int overflow and we're all going to die in the near future

[fathom wadi]

I played Fallout New Vegas on release. Bugs don't bother me anymore 😄

oh better one. Vampire the Masquerade. Had a game breaker at the end of the first boss when you get in the boat and it just flat out bricked itself.

the mod community had to fix that one 😄

[quasi mantle]

DICE wasn't even considering to generalise Frostbite until EA forced Frostbite 3 to be used for non-shooter games, while Epic already make Unreal Engine more generalised for any genre since UE2.

Speaking of which, Battlefield 3 post FX is like JJ Abrams on steroid 👌

[fathom wadi]

I always to play with frostbite engine. Also snowdrop and dunia. But I wouldn't work at either company so it's a pipe dream

[tribal geyser]

Disagree with that haha It definitely was a FP/TP Shooter engine very much till UE4

[quasi mantle]

But how about cinematic walking sims and RPGs built with UE3?

[tribal geyser]

Literally just the same thing except one where a character moves slower and one that has inventories

when you look at the core systems involved

[quasi mantle]

Also even Mortal Kombat too

[tribal geyser]

that wasn't made by Epic

[quasi mantle]

Mortal Kombat uses UE3 since the 9th game

[tribal geyser]

Yeah

[light spruce]

dammit. I can't find the Battlefield theme video I wanted

[tribal geyser]

but Epic didn't make that

You said "Epic has been making UE generalized since UE2", they haven't other teams have

And the core game framework in UDK very much was focused around biped shooters (and was the same till a few years into UE4)

[light spruce]

Can you even flip the camera over yet?

[quasi mantle]

I really despise DeviantArt requiring login to download stuff

[light spruce]

I really despise DeviantArt FTFY

[quasi mantle]

Although I baited someone to go into DeviantArt rabbit hole after they went rage from Epic's ArtStation acquisition, and I regret absolutely nothing.

I don't want them to hang around in Pixiv, a superior site for artworks.

[light spruce]

there was a time when the "deviant" part of the name was just .. part of the name

[cursive crypt]

Gets less taxes and free year of tutoring, goes into rage.

[pearl elk]

Andromeda had some broken gameplay, like going to your ship and having it take off the planets surface even if you didnt want to. Maybe you just wanted to go somewhere else on the planet but you gotta go through all the door cutscenes. Then there are the computer control panels you have to walk to even though you got an AI in your brain

(spoiler warning) 😛

has some really nice looking environments though and the space map is sweet

[quasi mantle]

Possibly out of Steam elitism lmao
I think baiting them into DeviantArt instead of Pixiv is the best option.

Epic acquiring Artstation is way better than Adobe acquiring Mixamo to just dump it away.

[cursive crypt]

Aye, Adobe is kinda sus with them being so silent with Allegorithmic. Though they gradually starts to crawl up on the branding side, as I see it.

[pearl elk]

Epic bought Artstation cuz they couldnt afford Discord hehe

login to Epic with your Artstation account

[fathom wadi]

they bought artstation because they saw my page and wanted to support me

https://marcrogerson.artstation.com/

[quasi mantle]

If Epic acquires Discord, does this mean this server become official Unreal Engine support server? 👀

[deep glen]

no Marc, they saw your page and wanted to nuke it out of orbit

[cursive crypt]

If they bought Discord, the "steam" diagnosed people will leave right away.

[fathom wadi]

lol

screw you guys I'm going home !

😄

[cursive crypt]

lol

[fathom wadi]

seriously tho. all nighter. off to bed. have fun folks

[pearl elk]

yeah go back to DeviantArt 😛

[deep glen]

night

[quasi mantle]

poggers

[median wraith]

Well guys I'm officially a company now

Get ready Valve

[cursive crypt]

You only?

[deep glen]

congrats Hev

[pearl elk]

lemme guess, your company is called Hevedical

[median wraith]

Yeah I'm Hev after all

[cursive crypt]

Ha!

[median wraith]

Tanks you friend

[deep glen]

hugh hevvner studios

[cursive crypt]

Welcome the taxes

And all that paperwork.

[median wraith]

Yeah don't remind me

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-gif-18568595

[light spruce]

Why did Andromeda have a member of your team that looked like he was a professional soccer player?

[median wraith]

lol

[median wraith]

yeah I pay a manager for that so

Spent 2 months to setup it

doing papers and getting greenlight

"Videogames" still don't exists as activity in my country

welcome to 1990

[cursive crypt]

I dunno, I know some people who create companies like one each year.
To me though, it looks quite a hassle.

[deep glen]

wth, took me like 30 minutes

[light spruce]

I feel like I'm being insensitive by saying "the black guy" but I literally can't remember the name of anyone in that game other than Peevee

[deep glen]

but yea, i couldnt select "video games" either, had to sign under "the craft of board games and toys"

[median wraith]

Yeah I choosed software activities and crap,rather than toys

[quasi mantle]

I have yet to turn my Invasion Games into an actual company
I mean, I'm still practically working on PF part time

[deep glen]

yea, i wish i did the same. because "the craft of board games and toys" did not get into the corona relief fund

[cursive crypt]

Luos, depends on your country. Here it is still quite a long procedure, contracts, registrations, layers stamps, accountants and etc.

[deep glen]

O_o

[median wraith]

well thats bad

actually should be wtf

[quasi mantle]

I'm only consider applying Invasion Games for the local company application until I'm able to commit for PAST FUTURE full time.

[median wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/zoidberg-futurama-gif-13983346

[deep glen]

hehe

[median wraith]

hevvnerbebrnveer sounds like that kinda

XD

[median wraith]

yeah here they do too

Create a company get the public funds

Close the company

Repeat

And make sure you get kids from university etc to do the job for free, then fire them

[cursive crypt]

Aah, yeah, along the lines.

It is just there is a certain group of people who benefit (exploit) greatly from that system.

[median wraith]

but how cool are these in front of the cameras and newpapers ?

[cursive crypt]

tbf, most people on mass media look really bad under the superficial shell/vision.

Guess the lifestyle is demanding.

[light spruce]

I can't keep up with what's happening now.. Zoidberg, fucking college kids, lights, what?

[deep glen]

lol

[quasi mantle]

I prefer to stay away from government controls/funding tho.
It's not like Indonesian government is the wiser among private companies anyway.

[median wraith]

yeah people that acts like that have enough with being themselves

[quasi mantle]

Speaking of public fund

I remember along the lines about CD Projekt RED getting public fund from Polish govt for R&D on specific Cyberpunk 2077 features, and only some of them realised on release. I wonder how those money are being used :thinking_face:

[cursive crypt]

Does someone knows what were these features?

[median wraith]

Here don't give nothing at all, they gave a bit for starters, that money goes to a new bank account, that account is controlled only by public founds of the goverment

And that money is basically to pay themselves

[normal prism]

Has it gotten patched yet or is it still horribad? 🤔

[median wraith]

Yeah they give me money, to pay themselves

The idea of that is get free of charges for a year only for Taxes

[median wraith]

Its a feature*

I think now its called Ratchet and Clank or something after the patch you speak about

Yeah internet was filled this week with this picture claiming is better than Cyberpunk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Zf1GCFoqn0&ab_channel=PlayStation

[quasi mantle]

Oh yeah, Keanu is allegedly the co-writer of the game, due to how different the plot setting was compared to the staged demo

[median wraith]

Its easy to spot by now what kind of companies don't have access to Metahuman

[quasi mantle]

MetaHuman is cool, but honestly, I'm all about anime stuff. Unfortunately MetaHuman is too realistic and I'm unable to get Final Fantasy calibre of realistic characters out of MHC.

I don't see myself using MetaHuman for actual production uses even though I'm one of the early batch of the users.

[median wraith]

lol

Its kinda funny this was the same engine that Titanfall devs didn't wanted to use years ago when it looked kinda outdated

but now looks better and feature complete than their Source 1.5 branch

[light spruce]

make sure to sport a visible boner under that shirt for maximum authenticity

"Why is this Titanfall install so large?" "Because these dipshits decided to build a game on some old Source engine that didn't support compressed audio"

Playing both Titanfalls.. you can really see and feel the Source there

[pearl elk]

metaweebans

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-yes-gaben-gabe-newell-gif-19062679

[foggy path]

I never really thought it looked that much like Source

like to me the Source engine "feel" is the one in CS Source and DoD Source - floaty and unresponsive lol

they got a lot better after that I guess :P

[pearl elk]

TF2 always felt more Quakey to me

[foggy path]

Yeah it's very snappy

I mean it plays a bit more like Call of Duty tbh, Respawn are ex-cod guys

[pearl elk]

I do like the weapon feedback in Titanfall 2 (not to be confused with Team Fortress 2)

[foggy path]

Yeah the combat in titanfall is great

not that watered down tanky shit like Apex Legends...

:D

[pearl elk]

its like ME 2, I mean Catalyst yo, not Mass Effect 😛

Apex Wegends

[zinc matrix]

I was also considering Umodel is that safe as well?

[pearl elk]

nope, totally not safe

[light spruce]

🚱

[pearl elk]

https://www.altova.com/umodel

[light spruce]

man, I'm a fucking idiot

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-anthony-fauci-irritated-ugh-wtf-gif-17947886

[zinc matrix]

but isnt it a like official website

this one?

[light spruce]

I did something stupid. [REDACTED] Should probably just flip a coin and then delta regardless

[zinc matrix]

https://i.imgur.com/tR9yfxI.png

[light spruce]

Pretty sure that text is a war crime

[zinc matrix]

@light spruce ?

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/earth-planet-sparkle-lights-gif-17111439

everyone feeling illuminated?

[light spruce]

that's how I feel

[quasi mantle]

GI is just for architecture tho

[zinc matrix]

why

let me guess u cant even answer lol

will you say stuff like "in fact paced games you don't see the environment"

[quasi mantle]

yes but actually no

I'm just fucking around on you lmao

[zinc matrix]

should i report this?

does this look like a troll channel?

[quasi mantle]

What? For joking about how GI is not for architecture, when GI is general lighting technique in 3D CG rendering?

[zinc matrix]

doesnt sound like a joke at all

[quasi mantle]

Didn't know one could be offended by such mundane joke.

Apologies, your majesty.

[light spruce]

Now punch each other in the mouth and then kiss

[zinc matrix]

no punch

[light spruce]

okay

then hard kissing

[zinc matrix]

what is that

[light spruce]

... I can't help you.

@pearl elk I need a tag in

[quasi mantle]

Alas, the kiss scene went redacted by the local censorship committee.

[quasi mantle]

Ever heard... um... french kiss?

[mossy nexus]

Glasgow kiss...

[zinc matrix]

negative

[pearl elk]

what if GI was an architecture 😮

[quasi mantle]

pipebag intensifies

[mossy nexus]

Hmm creamy goodness

[pearl elk]

https://tenor.com/view/renderburger-visual-art-explosion-head-mushrooom-explosion-gif-17010873

[light spruce]

that wasn't the tag I needed

I thought that of all people you'd be the one that could have my back

now I know that I'm truly alone in this failing simulation

[pearl elk]

You picked the only solo'r in the channel

all I have is this MP40 and enough ammo to take out the Nazis single handed

[light spruce]

well

I give you props for using their own weapon against them.... certainly means you're going to have easy access to ammo.

They generally wouldn't be carrying .45 ACP for an M3 grease gun

[median wraith]

thats a nice job

[light spruce]

For a stamped sheet metal bunch of shit manufactured by General Motors, the M3 was a surprisingly good SMG

Ergonomics be damned (plus my general meh feelings toward the .45 ACP cartridge) I'd still love to have an M3

[pearl elk]

Sten ftw

[light spruce]

much worse ergonomics

[pearl elk]

its barely a gun, more like a tube with a trigger 😛

[light spruce]

But it does use a 9x19

Of course, the FMJ 9x19 of that time period wasn't fantastic

[pearl elk]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/guns/images/1/1f/Sterling7.62.png/revision/latest?cb=20190706003056

tada

[light spruce]

What in the hell

[pearl elk]

.308 sterling 🙂 I guess you'd call that a battle rifle of sorts

[light spruce]

as much firearms shit as I know... that's a new one on me

[pearl elk]

its a fairly recent development in my firearms knowledge too

[light spruce]

prototype.... explains a lot

I'm familiar with the Sterling... so I'm taking it as a thing of trying to adapt an existing design to the adopted 7.62x51 NATO shit

[pearl elk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehC2rN8zszQ

Ive been watching this guy, he has a spot over on Gamespot too where he breaks down game weaponry

[light spruce]

True story: my previous doctor has a manufacturer's license and made a live firing Stormtrooper blaster.

[pearl elk]

theres a second one there which is made for a box magazine so a LMG type

crazy though, there was this point in time where everyone was like right we need 7.62 lets make one by scaling X up

[light spruce]

yeah, it used the Bren mags

The good ol' days of "Sure! Let's put a box mag on the top of the gun!"

I'm honestly not sure if that was better or worse than the pancake mags

It's kinda like drums are now... what the hell do you carry them in?

[pearl elk]

the best type for an SMG seemed to be the MP18 ones, the snail drum

[mossy nexus]

Meh. Sterling Submachine Gun (SMG) still the bestest evar. Proof? Star Wars 😄

[pearl elk]

but they dont hit anything with em in Star Wars 😛

[light spruce]

snail drum... were they asymmetric?

I know a lot of firearms shit.. so.. some of it blurs together

[mossy nexus]

That's only the Storm Troopers though. Mind you.. SMG's are for CQB only not taking on Sand Crawlers

[light spruce]

And dates are a thing I have a hard time remembering in general... so that's how I get some memory conflicts

[pearl elk]

pretty awkward and heavy to carry though, most of the wars soldiers actually used stripper clips. Not until more recently with plastics clips have really become light enough to carry enough, especially for larger calibers

BAR was a great gun, you had to be a weight lifter to carry a decent amount of ammo ontop of the weight of the gun tho 😛

[mossy nexus]

Luger?

[light spruce]

there's been some consideration in modern times of having what is loosely an LMG by virtue of a heavier barrel and gas system... where you roll out with a drum in the gun and then drop back to using box mag reloads (possibly the 40 round ones)

The blaster rifle is based on a Sterling SMG

[pearl elk]

yeah there are systems like the SCAR too which are meant to be interchangeable calibers so you can swap depending on situational requirements. If you need more ammo but smaller caliber, no worries, heavy barrel no worries

[mossy nexus]

The rifle yes, but the blaster is a luger.

[light spruce]

So he cut one down to like a five round mag

I don't know what blaster is based on a Luger... Solo's DL-44? and whatever the fuck Luke carried were both based on the C-96 Mauser

[pearl elk]

Unfortunately for 5.56mm its becoming less useful as body armour gets better

[mossy nexus]

Solo's is a good example yeah

5.56 sucks goats nads

[light spruce]

not just body armor... longer engagement distances. It's been losing out on terminal effectiveness at typical engagement distances