lounge

[spare glade]

Yeah NAS is the way to go if thats what your using it for.

[humble remnant]

Electricity is cheap here so I can afford running mine constantly even tho it's with a gaming GPU

[spare glade]

I used my Server as a build machine etc

[dense storm]

we recently built a build server, its rocking a 3900XT lol

[humble remnant]

Fastbuild/Incredibuild with your server is a blessing

[dense storm]

its perfectly fine for us

can cook and put a build on steam in 20ish minutes

[humble remnant]

I'm addicted to PCIe lanes now so I can't exactly get one of the consumer CPUs

Too useful to just hook up whatever you need

[dense storm]

i think i hit my PCIe lane limit tbh

i have 6NVMe's, wifi, etc

[humble remnant]

Damn

Probs not even an integrated GPU

[dense storm]

3080

[humble remnant]

Deffo getting bottlenecked then

[dense storm]

tho i do profiling, and not noticing any difference with 1 NVME vs all 6

tho my methods of benchmarking are questionable

[humble remnant]

I find it too useful to have 5 different expansion cards at once since I've been saved one too many times from them

2.5gbps network, M.2 adapter, GPU, extra sound card

[dense storm]

i have no extra sound card

but i have 1GB and 2.5GB ethernet

i disabled the onboard wireless the other day

[humble remnant]

Mine's is buggy as hell so I got one for cheap

[dense storm]

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-X570-ACE

thats the board i got

[humble remnant]

Ah, ACE

Solid

I wish 2.5g was more standard

[dense storm]

i am on my second 3950X processor tho

first one kinda gave up

[humble remnant]

Oof

How did you murder it

[dense storm]

AMD replaced it after 3 months

[humble remnant]

Ouch

That's a lotta downtime

[dense storm]

no idea, went a bed one night, woke up, pc would not turn on

not really, bought a 3900XT used that, then used that for the build machine 😄

luckily my laptop is not super slow, i used that whilst i waited for the 3900XT

[humble remnant]

Having a solid enough backup PC is great

A bunch of years ago my fresh high end rig died and I was stuck with an Atom for a couple months

And by died I mean grandiously died

PSU basically exploded and burnt it to a crisp

[dense storm]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-IPS-Type-GeForce-Battery-TUF706IU-AS76/dp/B0863DFMV7 not the greatest screen in the world, but it does for me

[humble remnant]

Hey, that's probs as good as my main rig

I'd take it

2700/1070ti for reference

[dense storm]

bought it so i can test multiplayer over steam

that was the main reason

cause you can't run steam client on the same pc more than once

[humble remnant]

Yeah, makes sense

My server has been good at testing mp

It doubles as a low end rig for performance testing too

HD 6790, 1 GB

But surprisingly it runs my project decent enough

Tbh I'm using that since I got it for free

But better than the old 8600GT that was in there

And hell, it at least runs my 1440p at native, not 1080p

Servers are great

Need more of them in this world

Been great to slam every HDD in it and load games through network

[cursive crypt]

I have more troubles with the autocomplete, especially on phone.

[humble remnant]

Ducking anticorrect

[zinc matrix]

On unity forums:

Third: How about using visual coding using the Dots system ? Is that project dead in the water?

dev answer:

No, but the current focus is on the tech that is already released and used by a lot of people: game objects.

let me get this straight

first they developed a game object focused visual scripting, and it was nearing a release

then they abandoned it because DOTS was the future, and the new visual scripting needed to be DOTS first

now they abandoned that too and focus on gameobjects first, and their attempt isn't even the first solution they've developed themselves, but it is actually bolt 1? The version that bolt devs themselves abandoned in favor of bolt 2?

god damn...

I hope someone writes a book about the dots shinanigans in Unity some years later. There's got to be a juicy story behind all of that 😄

[fathom wadi]

Sounds harsh when you put it like that. But then things change all the time in the engine business.

[fringe sundial]

@zinc matrix thats not even getting started

1: show unity tiny, with the goal of very small 2d webgames.
2: initial implementation is javascript based, ecs based, and has its own editor mode
3: next implementation is C# based, now using DOTS syntax, and has its own editor mode. On the switch they oblierate every sample, and they lose most features.
4: they decide tiny is now for low end 3d games, remove the Tiny editor, make tiny just be a "mode" on normal ECS code. Another destruction of everything. Oh and it loses all 2d features from steps 1,2,3, and now is 3d

also, because 4 removed the ECS editor from 3, unity tiny is now absolute horror to actually edit scenes in, as unity normal editor doesnt support ECS

render pipelines: spend literally years with everyone saying "but i want to be able to write materials that runs in both!!!!", and ignoring it

eventually add it

and pivot the "low end" render pipeline (mobile focused), to be "Universal"

unity has been nothing but run in circles for the last 3 years, its terrible

everything has been a complete failure

another important one is "spend literally 2+ years on unity DOTS and ecs, never spend literally 1 week of developer time to add editor support"

free ECS plugins from random people are way ahead of DOTS ECS in editor support every time

[normal prism]

🍿

[median wraith]

I had this if statement in the code since 1 year ago and were marked as valid LOL what ?

if ( IsValid( LightDirectional ) && IsValid( LightSkylight ), IsValid( Fog ), IsValid( PostprocessVolumeDay ), IsValid( PostprocessVolumeNight ) ) {

[humble remnant]

Meanwhile for UE4 all you need is Rama's nodes and some 3rd party integration

Blessed be that man

[cursive crypt]

You should take a rest from time to time.

[median wraith]

well you know that often happen at night

and right now I don't get the current error

 error C2664: 'ACManager::ACManager(ACManager &&)': cannot convert argument 1 from 'const FObjectInitializer' to 'FVTableHelper &'

While:

ACManagerGameplay::ACManagerGameplay( const FObjectInitializer& _ObjectInitializer ) : Super( _ObjectInitializer ) {

public:
    ACManagerGameplay( const FObjectInitializer& _ObjectInitializer );

🤔

I don't know but the other classes are equal

[zinc matrix]

My head cannon about the DOTS:

Joachim tried to go DOTS for the upcoming IPO. Some internal conflict later Unity ended up trying to have its cake and eat it. Since DOTS team did not have the support of other teams they ended up going in circles. For a while they seemed to gain major support (around the time visual scripting for gameobjects was scrapped in favor of DOTS) but they couldn't deliver.

Once it became apparent that they will not be able to deliver, Joachim got removed from board of directors (though he remains CTO still) and DOTS was heavily scaled back.

Now the current direction for DOTS is to have it power the engine features where it makes sense (like animation). ECS will be an "expert mode" thing that will have tacked on UI features. Full DOTS editor will never be a thing, pure ECS development will always remain a pipedream.

That's like a total shitshow that I would not expected from a "late" IPO.

I have no idea why people are buying Unity stocks right now. (actually I do, they make most of their money from ads so engine dev isn't that big of a deal, and scaling back on dots actually makes fiscal sense)

[median wraith]

oh the parent class

[stiff crystal]

@zinc matrix Now the current direction for DOTS is to have it power the engine features where it makes sense (like animation). where do you get this?

I mean this is what unreal does today, I haven't heard Unity going into this direction

I know Cinemachine has DOTS version in dev but so has bunch of other Unity tools

[zinc matrix]

just reading inbetween the lines. The only active improvement that I'm seeing that isn't afraid to mention dots is animation

animation team literally said "we are going forward with dots only and all other animation solutions will receive only bug fixes/minor improvements, no new features"

I haven't seen any other team do that

most literally just say dots support isn't planned or under consideration

[stiff crystal]

Unity did message things would go that way like year+ ago for most things... but most of the messaging has since reversed after it became clear DOTS will not be ready in years

now they've just hid DOTS under the carpet

they said they'd push out a blog post explaining the current state of DOTS by the end of last year

and here we are still waiting

they clearly do keep developing DOTS at "full" pace though, just look at the last batch of DOTS packages and there's improvements all around it

like, they make the dots editor thing better release by release, now they let you use burst for ECS systems etc

DOTS does kinda feel like Joachims super expensive pet project now

I mainly see the appeal on burst and jobs atm

[zinc matrix]

Joachim is always super positive about the future of ecs whenever he posts on the forums

I'm not sure how long full dots editor will last though

[stiff crystal]

I don't think anyone even works on such thing atm

[zinc matrix]

they did stop some of the ui improvements and even feature improvements in favor of the new ui system

[stiff crystal]

I hate the whole conversion workflow

[zinc matrix]

so the full dots experience might become "expert mode" setting in the editor in the future

[fringe sundial]

@stiff crystal its clear there are some orders from top to nerf dots tho

adding a non-shit dots editor for hybrid would take 1-2 man-weeks

and that would be great for people who merge ecs stuff into their game, offering a transition period

the whole conversion workflow is a huge mess. Its so incredibly beyond bad it makes me think its just ordered from the top

something like what entitas has, of having an "entity link" component would even be a good stepping point and takes very little effort to do

and yet

they dont

this is clearly ordered from top to not do any sort of ECS editor integration

[ancient hornet]

could be power struggles between teams at Unity too

[pearl elk]

Well Google is predicting a 20 point drop in share price for Unity

Im sure if enough shareholders got in there and pushed for ECS theyd have to listen, people just gotta put their money where their mouth is 🙂

[fringe sundial]

the issue is that they refuse to make DOTS something people can actually use

the job system and compiler stuff works really well

but the ECS is an absolute disaster, not because its not good (it is), but because it has 0 editor support and they refuse to have it

if you use the ecs, then you are removing the main point of using unity, which is the editor

[zinc matrix]

might as well slap flecs on ue4 and use that with some uht hacking instead of using unity ecs tbh

[median wraith]

whats that

Math for bright people ?

[zinc matrix]

I didn't even know unity purchased mlapi. I laughed out loud when I saw garry's response on the forums 😄

[fringe sundial]

@zinc matrix it legit works better than unity ECS

you know i did it myself XD

and has space for improvement

[zinc matrix]

good stuff: https://forum.unity.com/threads/the-open-source-mlapi-project-joins-the-unity-family.1016209/#post-6586498

I remember you did some entt stuff some years ago, did you port that to flecs or something? 😄

[fringe sundial]

i did

works mostly the same lol

but i have some ideas to improve the support and the way it works

[foggy path]

honestly people complaining about unity fragmentation have never done web development

you have like what maybe 2-3 options with Unity and that's too hard of a problem? :p

[proud pier]

wtf is DOTS

Dookie Over The Snuff ?

[soft night]

Data Oriented Tech Stack

[proud pier]

That's worse than I thought

Wish they had come up with a more fun name

[ancient hornet]

I like it?

[soft night]

like Doodling Objects Taur Seas

[median wraith]

dots is why Unity runs slow, because they put a dot at the end always, unreal accepts commas and don't need to redo a sentence

[ancient hornet]

I mean, not in a "why is that the name" but in a "it rolls well in the mouth"

[pearl elk]

Domain Objectification Training Simulation

[soft night]

Domain Olympus Training Staff

[pearl elk]

Eunuch Calibration System

[zinc matrix]

Unity fragmentation is more like fragmentation within a single framework. Like if React had multiple versions of the same function with 1 being deprecated, stable, and not recommended and 2 other requiring usage of 2 different APIs with their own quirks and being generally incompatible with each other

[pearl elk]

but I thought ECS is meant to remove fragmentation 😛

[median wraith]

still no clue why Garry didn't moved the game to other engine

[zinc matrix]

It did though. It reduced fragmentation slightly in the game engine market by making unreal more attractive!

[stiff crystal]

he'd rant about unreal too

[median wraith]

Didn't know he were called Garry Hevedy's

[stiff crystal]

also game is already built, why redo it

[zinc matrix]

he already switched his next game sandbox from ue4 to csgo engine to source 2

[stiff crystal]

I can imagine

[zinc matrix]

pretty sure he would have good sized rant for ue4, but it wouldn't be as big as unity

[stiff crystal]

he does have way more experience on unity though

[zinc matrix]

I remember him getting blackmailed over a 3rd party networking solution they used on rust 😄

[foggy path]

So basically using or not using React hooks :X

[zinc matrix]

Unity have been trying to stabilize things for years.

[stiff crystal]

it's different now though

they didn't roll many new feats to 2020 and 2021

[zinc matrix]

this situation seems very similar to how they handled raknet or unity gui

just in a slightly bigger scale

[stiff crystal]

things started to get really out of hands so they had to stop to make things play ball together now

[normal prism]

They both work just fine though, old and new workflows

If anything, it shows how you should have multiple workflows within a framework

[foggy path]

pretty sure most unity components work just fine as well

[zinc matrix]

pretty sure works fine doesn't cut it when you need to update to a new unity version because the platform you are on requires a new version

now your old stuff that worked fine isn't there anymore

and you have to rewrite and retest and revalidate with the platform holder

[foggy path]

Isn't that the whole thing that they're keeping all the old stuff

because the new stuff is never fully finished :D

[zinc matrix]

and the new stuff isn't as stable, can have issues, and may outright be deprecated anyway

[stiff crystal]

I can still take Unity project from 3.x era and make it run on Unity 2021

try that with Unreal 2.5 to UE4

or even from UDK

[zinc matrix]

they have kept them so far, they'll drop them like a rock when they present issues

like unet

[soft night]

3 way on unity what comes to packages experimental, preview, stable

[stiff crystal]

but in general, big softwares do require changes when moving from version to another

[zinc matrix]

they deprecated it in 2019 and still have no solution for it

[zinc matrix]

lol

dude

that's like

I can't even

[stiff crystal]

yet, I've done it

[pearl elk]

Ive always wanted to play UT2004 on UE4

[zinc matrix]

pretty sure it was a simple project and you did it as a side thing

in what world I would want to port a 2.5 project to 4?

I've seen studios having MASSIVE problems with upgrading to yearly releases

[pearl elk]

In a world where UT2004 gets Raytracing 😛

[zinc matrix]

are you seriously going to say unity has better record of supporting old tech than unreal?

like seriously now?

[stiff crystal]

yes

[zinc matrix]

can you even run book of the dead in modern unity?

😄

[stiff crystal]

I can, but there's no point really

[zinc matrix]

there is a practical cut off for upgrading old stuff

I would put ue4.0 at that like

maybe even 3 too, but 2.5 thats ancient ancient news

unity can't even pretend to have a workable upgrade flow for their yearly releases

[stiff crystal]

book of the dead has these changes to HDRP https://github.com/0lento/Graphics/commit/b490531dad6bc16692196ff59daad6dee06e7af3, some of these are trivial to port, some would require different take due to HDRP already having similar functionality built-in now

[zinc matrix]

I know a guy that had to get help from unity just to sort out their prefabs

[pearl elk]

thing is you dont need to upgrade UE2.5 games for better netcode 🙂

[zinc matrix]

because unity changed the serialization code

thats recent

[stiff crystal]

(but there's also Unity's own upgraded version of HDRP for BOTD on github)

it's not the point here though

[zinc matrix]

of these are trivial to port, some would require different take due to HDRP already having similar functionality built-in now

really?

trivial to port isn't the same thing as upgrade and fix a few functions my dude

[fresh heath]

https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/track/emulator_development/

[stiff crystal]

well, to make similar comparison, it would mean custom Unreal rendering code built years ago and trying to make it run on UE 4.26

I can swear it's going to be more difficult in unreal than unity's hdrp

[zinc matrix]

I did that, it didn't require an engineer from epic to debug our code

[stiff crystal]

nor does that botd code 🙂

[pearl elk]

lets be real main issue with porting older UE titles isnt the engine its the APIs they were built in mind for, UE2 was DX8

[zinc matrix]

what, the biggest refactor is the fmesh stuff, that's nothing compared to waiting an answer from unity because you don't have access

[pearl elk]

thats not even unified shaders

[zinc matrix]

like really are you really serious right now?

[stiff crystal]

partly, mostly for the ride though 😄

[zinc matrix]

I presented you with a real solid example, and you basically point out to the only effort in unity that is nearly open source as a proof that unity handles upgrades better?

[stiff crystal]

Unreals huge issue is on getting bug fixes only on recent version, they don't even have concept of LTS like Unity has

[zinc matrix]

ignore everything else and just point out hdrp?

thats rich 😄

[stiff crystal]

Unreal has source code, but no access to individual commits when you need them

[zinc matrix]

and now you sidetrack and point out to lts?

[stiff crystal]

no, I mean, this whole discussion was originally about the things you face when you upgrade to new version

[zinc matrix]

I know a studio that regularly upgrades their engine code and they have 600+ people working on their studio

if I mention that to a unity shop they'll call that madness

because in unity you don't upgrade unless you need to

that same shop still uses scaleform btw

[stiff crystal]

regardless of the engine, you should lock the engine version at some point anyway

[zinc matrix]

thats asking for trouble in unreal land

you need to stay behind a version but consistently upgrade

[stiff crystal]

well, either way is asking for trouble

[zinc matrix]

thats bad advice

I think you are looking at things with a very unity perspective

upgrading in unreal and unity are very different things

[pearl elk]

remove the UN from Unreal and Unity and you get Reality 😛

[zinc matrix]

in fact that can be bad advice for unity as well

for mobile that is

[ancient hornet]

scaleform is still in use? 😄

[stiff crystal]

*looking at cryengine

[zinc matrix]

using isn't the same thing as shipping

[pearl elk]

I have almost 20yrs on Unreal Engine 🙂

[zinc matrix]

yes, unfortunately

imagine 4.24 running with scaleform

that exists

[ancient hornet]

with Flash EOL, can you still access the tools used to author content for it? hmm

[pearl elk]

BL3 uses Scaleform no?

[zinc matrix]

not sure, but pretty sure they could've made custom tools

custom flash tools were a thing years ago

[ancient hornet]

well as long as it works for them

[foggy path]

I don't think anything stops you from using the Adobe tooling for it

[stiff crystal]

people still used those custom tools on CE side few years ago

[foggy path]

or the actionscript compiler and what have you

[stiff crystal]

issue with this is that you can't buy perpetual flash authoring tools from Adobe

chances are that some day they won't let you even access those, or are they removing the access already?

[ancient hornet]

yeah without those tools, I wonder how it'll work in the near future for them

[stiff crystal]

I mean, having access to tools with zero support may not make sense to them

[foggy path]

yeah I guess authoring fancier content might be tricky with the opensource tools

not sure how good they are

[zinc matrix]

when scaleform was a thing adobe still sold perpetual licenses

[stiff crystal]

last time I checked those tools, they were really bare bones

[zinc matrix]

flash tools that came with those should still work more or less

[ancient hornet]

right, I suppose they are just using the old versions

this doesn't seem future proof much though but

but if future proofing was that important for them, they'd have replaced scaleform already!

[zinc matrix]

they could've made a custom deal too, anyone that still uses scaleform has the money to burn

[pearl elk]

it could be a skills matrix thing, they have the people to make and fix scaleform issues they dont have the people to add something new

[foggy path]

It'll just be embedded chromium soon

[ancient hornet]

what are the open source semi replacement tools for that btw?

HTML5 replacing flash 😄

[foggy path]

Yeah I mean it did that in browsers so it seems pretty likely to replace Scaleform too

[pearl elk]

from what Ive seen though the HTML5 performance just isnt there, which games use HTML5 UIs in UE4?

[zinc matrix]

pubg?

😄

for the main menu at least 😄

[pearl elk]

never played it 😉

[zinc matrix]

or did they replace that

[ancient hornet]

for HTML5 I think those guys have something that is okish

[foggy path]

unless someone comes up with a system that gives you similarly powerful layouting and design capabilities it seems pretty likely that HTML5'd be it

not sure if PUBG still does the web page as main menu thing

[stiff crystal]

are PUG menus still a mess?

[foggy path]

you could literally load it up in a browser, although it didn't render correctly because it didn't have all the apis and stuff

[stiff crystal]

I know the early versions of PUBG had a bloody refresh button to update the contents on the menu 😄 😄

[foggy path]

it was an HTML page served from their servers that you could see it load if you logged network traffic :D

[stiff crystal]

like, who does that

[foggy path]

The refresh button might still be there, but haven't needed to use it at least :P

[ancient hornet]

for HTML I was looking at that Humingbird thing from Coherent Labs some times ago

[stiff crystal]

I mean, not to refresh some multiplayer listing, just to update their own stuff

[zinc matrix]

they used a html 5 ui solution c something, can't remember the name

[ancient hornet]

and now it looks like they dropped it 😄

[foggy path]

The button isn't really a browser-specific thing imo, it's just that they couldn't be bothered to make it not shit itself

easier to have a refresh button...

[zinc matrix]

at that point ue4 had umg too, could've been massively simpler to just use that, or even slate for that matter

[stiff crystal]

I can see plenty of reasons not to touch slate

[zinc matrix]

but no, what if we want to change ui?! we need some way to use those cheap web designers!

[foggy path]

UMG is pretty decent in terms of layouting support when compared to HTML/CSS I think

[stiff crystal]

Unity's new UI thing has separate stylesheets, it's even closer to that

[zinc matrix]

sure, slate isn't the most... well... still, imho it isn't that far away from using a 3rd party html renderer inside unreal

[stiff crystal]

but time will tell if it'll be easy to use eventually

UMG is dead simple

[foggy path]

I build a browser based WYSIWYG designer tool for a living so I'm kinda familiar with how that shit works lol

[ancient hornet]

HTML layout is a lot more sane if you use the more modern boxing stuff

[foggy path]

I think we have one or two custom layout engine components in it, mostly relating to fonts because font scaling is not really something that browsers do in nice ways

And yeah flexbox and grid layout modules in CSS are very good

Pretty much solve all the stupid tricks you had to do before they were well supported

[pearl elk]

UMG is certainly better than UI Scene :p

I think Epic has mostly replaced all the UE3 editors now

Wonder if UE5 will be abit different direction, does seem like they need to be replacing systems they only just finished

[zinc matrix]

I wish they would replace slate, but I doubt that would happen.

I'm very happy that they seem to be moving gameplay framework to a plugin though

[pearl elk]

replace it with what?

[zinc matrix]

would you believe if I said anything? 😄

[pearl elk]

Careful now, UnrealEd was originally written in VB

[zinc matrix]

not that slate is that bad, mind you. I just don't like it very much xD

[pearl elk]

UE3 used wxWidgets but they moved on from that to Slate cuz its GPU accelerated

[zinc matrix]

I think even epic devs are afraid of slate, because after the original creator of it left, they didn't add too many features and hurriedly created UMG instead 😅

[fresh heath]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3SPe7hv-DA

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/StendhalNara/status/1357289495117373442

Volk. (@StendhalNara)

Artwork de l'artiste chinois, Jianhao Chen.

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[median wraith]

what a nice dance

when the weapon individual components jitter because of reasons individually

[normal prism]

Large distance from world origin? 🤔

[median wraith]

well that game maps are like 100x100 meters

lol

[normal prism]

Then not indeed, odd 🤔

[median wraith]

to me looks like the attachment system is working on the animation system

so you get that

[tulip orbit]

naw. just needs duct tape.

[median wraith]

https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/smooth-networked-movement

I'm sorry what

[dense storm]

i am intrigued to see what it does, @rugged jetty ? Is this your plugin?

[rugged jetty]

yes

[median wraith]

joined the discord server to ask there a thing

[normal prism]

That's pretty sexy

[dense storm]

I am curious about it 😄

[median wraith]

@normal prism I joined first to the server, ha ha n00b

😂

[fluid bloom]

but are you close to the world origin?

also: sous vide chicken is pretty awesome

[median wraith]

idk man is Rainbow SIx

[fluid bloom]

oh

[pearl elk]

I was always more of a fan of Mauve Six, the whole rainbow was alittle much

[median wraith]

oh they gave the supermarket level from the toilet paper game from steam

[steady sorrel]

Guys I have a little problem. It's not related to Unreal. So recently I started using wireless headphones but what happens with them is that when I have the Google Meet link open, it doesn't let me hear any sounds except the Meet tab. So any ideas why this is happening?

This also happened when I was on a call on Discord and I opened OBS Studio...

[fluid bloom]

it probably switches to headset/call mode or something and disables other sounds

does it have a mic? If it doesn't then just disregard what I said 😄

[steady sorrel]

It has a mic...

[fluid bloom]

I imagine you can change the behaviour in the control panel somewhere

[steady sorrel]

Will see

Thx for the advice

[humble remnant]

Wasn't there an equivalent plugin released for free like a year ago

SmoothSync or something like that

It's updated for 4.26 so I assume it's decent

[median wraith]

that's for physics based components

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1357690223187161088

Reuters (@Reuters)

German prosecutors have confiscated more than $60 million worth of #bitcoin from a fraudster. There’s only one problem: they can’t unlock the money because he won’t give them the password. @johnodonnell21 reports https://t.co/weuOUzqL62 1/4

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Twitter · Feb 5, 2021, 1:59 PM

[fresh heath]

When a game's FAQ page is selling you a programming language

[fringe sundial]

@fresh heath "rust is portable" on a game site is fucking hilarious

absolutely hilarious

rust means you cant port to consoles

at all

thats as far from portable as it gets in the context of gamedev

[humble remnant]

They actually have a marketing point on what language they use

[median wraith]

I made in 1h my documents for USA taxes

took me 5 days in my own country to present alike papers here and still can't do it

🤖

[humble remnant]

Fuck bureaucracy and how many things depend on it

Had a shipment to me delayed due to how slow things get processed through customs

Had 4 days straight of "clearance event"

[median wraith]

I failed to send the docs 🤦🏽‍♂️

[humble remnant]

Ya dingus

[pearl elk]

Id love to write the Chaos docs, Id just make it all messy and say welp thats chaos for ya 🙂

[humble remnant]

Eet eez wut eet eez

[median wraith]

is kinds sad tbh lost the chance for the degree because this absurd system where nobody knows anything (and needed a ID digital verification sign)

[rapid magnet]

Hey guys, Green is the screen positions and Blue is the viewport coordinates. How do I calculate the coordinates of the top left corner of the orange rect?

is that after or before?

[quiet narwhal]

So you want in 0 to 1 range that value compared to the outer value?

[rapid magnet]

yeah

[quiet narwhal]

Map range can be used in engine. I don’t know the math tho lol

Your mapping 123..567 to 0..1 with 222 as the input for example. Would do it for both values

[pearl elk]

well I can tell you now 567,567 wont be a rectangle

[proud pier]

What game?

[humble remnant]

I assume S&box, Garry's Mod 2.0 essentially

[orchid yacht]

I found this code but I am confused as to why the year divided by something is supposed to equal to 0. Can someone please tell me?
`int main() {

int y = 0;

std::cout << "Enter year: ";
std::cin >> y;

if (y < 1000 || y > 9999) {

std::cout << "Invalid entry.\n";

}
else if (y % 4 == 0 && y % 100 != 0 || y % 400 == 0) {

std::cout << y;
std::cout << " falls on a leap year.\n";

}
else {

std::cout << y;
std::cout << " is not a leap year.\n";

}

}`

I kinda think this code is incorrect

[broken sigil]

only 0 / 400 would be 0

[orchid yacht]

That is what I was thinking. I assume whoever made this code was incorrect?

Do you know how I could fix this code to make it work? I need it to be able to fall on a leap year but obviously this didn't work

Is there any way to do a check to see if a number is even?

[broken sigil]

if ((x % 2) == 0)
{
  //it's even
}

this should work

[orchid yacht]

Oh does % check the divisibility?

And what does the 0 mean?

[clear shore]

hey, i'm new here.

[broken sigil]

it's a modulo operator (a weird one lol)
In short it gives you the remainder, so any number that's dividable by 2 (no remainder, that's that == 0) is even

[orchid yacht]

Oh, thanks Blue Man!

Always there to help me

[clear shore]

so, I have a game in the concepts stage right now.

[zinc matrix]

heh, I would estimate ~70 million people are in the same stage currently 😄

Imagine the success rate, statistically

on second hand, don't 😄

[orchid yacht]

What is the game about?

[clear shore]

it's a first person adventure game.

[orchid yacht]

cool!

Is it in a certain era or did you make up when it takes place?

[clear shore]

Well... it follows a young girl who wakes up in a strange mansion.

[orchid yacht]

Mm

cool

It is like luigi's mansion or something? lol

[clear shore]

Well, you explore the mansion, remember the game, Myst? It's like that game.

[unborn lotus]

is it point and click ?

[clear shore]

no, you just move the character with the asdw keys

[dense storm]

aww man, i would love for a Shivers remake, or a Grim Fandago remake

i know they did a remastered of Grim Fandango

[orchid yacht]

I like games where you can actually move

wasd = good

it gives you more immersion

[clear shore]

of course

[orchid yacht]

Well, good luck ShawdowReaper

I'm really new to coding but my goal is to make a shooter with projectiles and actual armor penetration.

It's gonna need beefy specs tho if every bullet is a projectile

and I'm gonna make a shrapnel system

[clear shore]

Wait, I'm actually new to UE4 too, so we're in the same boat

[zinc matrix]

actual armor penetration ? Visually?

[orchid yacht]

Although that would take a LOT of experience

[orchid yacht]

When a bullet hits a certain material it goes through differently

Like if it hit armor it stops, but if it hits something else it goes through

Expect the bullet is a projectile and not just a beam that hits

So if it doesn't go through it bounces off or something

Basically a tech demo that I could use in future games

[zinc matrix]

Data tables should help. Keep track of Projectile property interacting with armor property, and define the behavior and the result there

[orchid yacht]

Ah, thanks for the advice

As I said though, that's a goal. It's gonna take a lot of knowledge and work

It's what I'm aiming for

[zinc matrix]

Dragon age did it like this. If the sword is red steel and the armor is leather, you get a different behavior compared to the sword being regular steel and armor is red steel. And they track exactly this property called armor penetration. You can use the same abstraction for your project

[orchid yacht]

Dragon age?

[zinc matrix]

they also used the concept of fatigue, which added yet another layer of interesting behavior, meaning someone wearing heavy armor is better protected but has slower attacks, etc.

[orchid yacht]

oh it's a game

series

[zinc matrix]

that's right

[orchid yacht]

That's pretty cool

Yeah, that's kinda what I'm aiming to make

[zinc matrix]

it's what game designers do, design cool stuff 😄

[orchid yacht]

expect with guns

and other military stuff

[orchid yacht]

lol you're right

[zinc matrix]

Have fun working on your project and learning!

[orchid yacht]

Oh I'm far from my project but thanks!

When I start building my first game, does anyone know where I could get free assets for my scene?

I don't want to make each one in blender lol

[zinc matrix]

Free Paragon Assets on the Epic marketplace, or any other free assets on the marketplace, just browse the marketplace and look for free stuff, there are zounds 😄

@orchid yacht

[orchid yacht]

Alright thanks

What if I wanted something specific that's not free on epic

is there any other place you know of?

[zinc matrix]

Yes, search engines should help, such as Google or Baidu,etc 😄

[clear shore]

so how do i add sounds to a flashlight?

[zinc matrix]

Solve the problem abstractly first. You press a key on your keyboard or a button on your controller. This triggers an event. The event is twofold: handle turning on the light or off, and play a sound @clear shore

[clear shore]

ok i see

[zinc matrix]

Also, if you are unsure, free tutorials on YouTube should definitely help you in your journey.

[clear shore]

got it

[orchid yacht]

`int main() {

int y;

std::cout << "Enter year: ";
std::cin >> y;

}
if (y % 4 == 0 && y % 100 != 0 || y % 400 == 0) {
//If the year is divisible by 4 and is not divisible by 100, or if it is divisible by 400
std::cout << y;
std::cout << " falls on a leap year.\n";

}
else {

std::cout << y;
std::cout << " is not a leap year.\n";

}

}`

This is the code I have and this is what it outputs:

How do I fix it?

[cursive crypt]

Your number of opening or closing symbols like { ( " ' does not match.

[orchid yacht]

Ohh thanks

[orchid yacht]

K thanks guys!

[cursive crypt]

I like that arrow. It is like a sparrow doing an air strike on a bug.

[orchid yacht]

Hmm.. there is still an error

`#include <iostream>

int main()

{
int y;

std::cout << "Enter year: ";
std::cin >> y;

if (y % 4 == 0 && y % 100 != 0 || y % 400 == 0)

{
//If the year is divisible by 4 and is not divisible by 100, or if it is divisible by 400
std::cout << y;
std::cout << " falls on a leap year.\n";
}
else
{
std::cout << y;
std::cout << " is not a leap year.\n";
}

}`

[clear shore]

so how do I apply sound effects to a flashlight (though I already asked this question) in the event graph?

[cursive crypt]

You all that the lounge channel, people to chill not be bombed with work :) just saying.

Yeah, you maybe didn't compile?

[orchid yacht]

oh right! thanks

Sorry, I tried putting this in the #cpp channel but someone told me that was only for unreal engine

I am doing pure c++

currently, at least

[cursive crypt]

That true too. I bet there are some nice c++ discords too though

[orchid yacht]

At least I think that was what they said

[broken sigil]

yeah isn't really suitable for our CPP channel since that's for unreal C++

[orchid yacht]

yeah, makes sense

thanks for helping me tho

[broken sigil]

np

[cursive crypt]

Spent some time, enjoy the learning. Find a good place to ask occasionally on that topic.

Np

[broken sigil]

@orchid yacht was it you who I gave that C++ playlist?
Can't remember 😐

[cursive crypt]

Aww... Spreading the C++ love 🥰

[broken sigil]

lol

[orchid yacht]

Yeah, but I find youtube videos a bit hard to follow. Instead I found a website where it clearly explains everything and has C++ coding built into it so that you can practice without having to tab out all the time. It is really useful.

It's called codecademy

Thanks tho 😄

[broken sigil]

ah nice 🙂

[orchid yacht]

I tried another official C++ server, and I gotta say, this one is way better

The last message someone sent in lounge was like an hour ago

[red pewter]

the problem with C++ is when you ask a question someone who actually likes C++ too much will answer

man I hope Verse serves as something you can actually build a game with and isn't just for super high level gamemode scripting

either that or I buckle down and buy a threadripper for those sweet, sweet compile times

(not trying to diss c++ too much here, I just think it's got too many different ways of doing things and too much trivia)

[weak current]

Yo I need some advice real quick if u guys can give me a critique on something. I'm specifically asking u guys randomly because I want an unbiased opinion for a vid I made for a contest if u have time

[orchid yacht]

How is that a bad thing? People are helping each other

[red pewter]

true

[fresh heath]

This one: https://veloren.net/

[rotund tundra]

the quality of youtube adds lately ...

[normal prism]

What ads

Ublock origin

Sponsor block

Bai 👋

[rotund tundra]

either the disney guy selling a course on what he tells his kids when he gets home from work
or a local scammer spamming his bait for ez $10k for 1h work from home scheme
.. and now some mesh merge tool for ue4... no audio just a weird editor video

[median wraith]

So youtube tells me indirectly my timelapse graphics quality are equal to 2009 games

[ancient ingot]

🤣

[rotund tundra]

trying ublock origin, so far seems good but
"Finally, an efficient blocker. Easy on CPU and memory."
so basically you have to pay with something either way, be it your time and nerves, money, or pc resources

[cursive crypt]

We live in age where ad-blocker is as necessary as water. This is war against ads and war never changes.

[fresh heath]

The Russian COVID-19 vaccine is actually working: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-02-06/putin-s-once-scorned-vaccine-is-now-a-favorite-in-pandemic-fight?srnd=premium-europe

I've signed up for a shot today

[rotund tundra]

i can sign up too, but it'll be months before i can actually get a shot

[robust gulch]

Just wait for the AstraZeneca vaccine

Doesn’t spread it when you’re vaccinated either

[cursive crypt]

https://i.redd.it/k34nt8e23uf61.jpg

Can confirm

[median wraith]

lol

[normal prism]

Also get sponsorblock

To get rid of the annoying sponsor segments

It's amazing

[median wraith]

can confirm too, no these amounts but yeah

[median wraith]

Well this is new

people insulting me via DM because my content

😂

on instagram the yesterday video

[cursive crypt]

What?

Why?

[mossy nexus]

random interneties don't need a reason

[median wraith]

yeah

[median wraith]

idk 😦

The worry were why I show my content

[normal prism]

Oh Hevedy

It's a sign you're doing well

The more reach, the more haters

🦾

Like, who actually spends time insulting people over instagram DM

😆

[median wraith]

I have no clue anymore because on Instagram usually I get a lot of people that like my posts
On Artstation and Linkedin I never get likes despite I follow a lot of people

not even the know people xd

[median wraith]

yeah idk...

its kinda sad too because by gender you get discriminated in these platforms (well and in my country as self employed too)

hey thats a pretty cool scene tbh

yeah kinda more or less the same thing

Once a person insulted me because I were using other person avatar photo ¯_(ツ)_/¯ (I had this same picture, thats me last time I woke up and checked it)

wasn't even that case, but that happened back in the time

<David if make games is that easy as you do, why don't every person make them? hahaha retarter>

that was words of my ex first boss

😂

but yeah you find alike people always

XD

It amazes me the fact there is a lot of people with stolen content actually and the people support them and are know

I even made a report and called the original artist once and the dude ended giving he the thanks and whatever....

happened to me too

at least time to time you find someone that makes your day in a possitive way

[pearl elk]

I stole my picture from amazon store lol

feel free to head on over and buy yourself a led glowy mask 😛

[mossy nexus]

Mine is now a toonme version of me

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/St1ka/status/1357896709846753283

St1ka (@St1ka)

Did you know the PC Version of Horizon: Zero Dawn lets you toggle the resolution to 72p? (256x144) https://t.co/3nYccHPQDZ

Retweets

989

Likes

5209

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 3:39 AM

[median wraith]

finally can play AAA games

https://twitter.com/OnTheDownLoTho/status/1357921966955634690

⭐️ GamesCage - Hype Guy ⭐️ (@OnTheDownLoTho)

@St1ka @Mlickles here’s the switch port u wanted

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 5:20 AM

XDD

[flint pier]

Yaaay

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/kenshirriff/status/1358099473809870848

Ken Shirriff (@kenshirriff)

In 1976, Motorola produced a 1-bit processor, the MC14500B. A 1-bit processor sounds like a joke, but it was an industrial controller for Boolean logic applications. I reverse-engineered the chip with die photos from @johndmcmaster via @UsagiElectric.
https://t.co/nTNI0HMS7G

Likes

164

Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 5:05 PM

[median wraith]

There are a lot of renders with RT on UE4 already

[pearl elk]

need more 2d RT

[sharp sable]

Hello everyone,

Having myself encountered a lot of difficulties when I started developing games in my spare time, I decided to study the phenomenon in my master's degree 🕵️
I'm trying to understand the success factors of indie game developers of all levels and background (absolute beginner, student, part-time, pro..) 👾
I conducted a survey to do so 🙂

https://forms.gle/tnEfS78RrEmPaktFA

Thank you for your participation !

[median wraith]

I bet games work as art etc

whatever you do good isn't proof of nothing this days without marketing

[pearl elk]

Im not sure a random survey online is really strong enough evidence for a masters degree

maybe contact some actual developers directly to do interviews

[median wraith]

wait what, checked it on mobile thought were an article from gamasutra because the green XD

[tidal ivy]

I don't think you're going to get a lot of meaningful information out of the questions either - I'm not sure this has been very well thought through

[median wraith]

there is actually a lot of awesome interviews at youtube etc

[normal prism]

Lies

[pearl elk]

well you could certainly gather some data that way, it would be more viable than anonymous self reports from slackers lounge 🙂

[tidal ivy]

I like how you can only have skills in 'programming' or 'graphic design / drawing'

poor level designers / animators / 3d artists 😄

(amongst others)

[median wraith]

meh graphic design englobes all

🤪

[tidal ivy]

the age categories ending at 30 make me feel old also 😂

[median wraith]

yeah I spotted that XD

[cursive crypt]

Gotta accept that. If you are 30+ you are closing as "uncle"

[median wraith]

Actually I would like to read or know at what age developers leave game developing

all the people after 45-50 I know works as teacher

[tidal ivy]

the average age of 'retirement' from games is about 32 IIRC

[pearl elk]

ambershee Unreal Slackers grandfather

[tidal ivy]

but it's because around that time people get married, buy houses, have kids etc, and want to move into stable work

[cursive crypt]

Its like in the fashion modelling jobs.

[median wraith]

and what is "stable work" this days

[tidal ivy]

this is changing though, most big studios aren't the 'gig economy' studios they used to be

[median wraith]

that's good to know I'm almost there and never had a chance, just awesome

[tidal ivy]

I mean, anything that isn't games? An engineer working on an aerospace project is basically employed for 10+ years on that project

[median wraith]

well I had but

[cursive crypt]

Sorry, Hevedy, you too old now.

[pearl elk]

you had your chance to invest in Gamestop and retire, now youre gonna live in mums basement forever

[median wraith]

yeah with 18 I were too young and ending the 20s I'm too old @cursive crypt XD

[cursive crypt]

If you are not beautiful, young dev, you are no good.

[tidal ivy]

in any case, I think I've been making games for something like 12, 13 years now?

can't recall 😂

[pearl elk]

Im hiring 7yr old interns if anyone is interested 😛

[cursive crypt]

Officers!

[pearl elk]

I call it my roblox army

[tidal ivy]

you laugh, but those Roblox kids will be future game/level designers and scripters, hehe

Roblox, Dreams etc is the new modding

[cursive crypt]

Graphics in 2050 -> blocks

[pearl elk]

in everyone one of my jokes there is indeed a dark truth we dont want to face 🙂

[median wraith]

Someones told me back in the days "hey build a good portfolio, you will get your road in gamedev"

WELP

[pearl elk]

Im actually keepin an eye out for these Roblox stock, if its anything like Unity it could be a real winner

[tidal ivy]

I feel like Roblox may have already peaked

[median wraith]

that's basically when I started with modding etc

[tidal ivy]

I think I released my first mod over 20 years ago now

JFC

Hevedy go away and stop reminding me about these things

[pearl elk]

I made my first mod umm, not 30yrs ago phew

[median wraith]

at least you got a job

[tidal ivy]

Q3A was 22 years ago now

well, closer to 21

[median wraith]

I got kind of anxiety on all of this XD

[pearl elk]

I made mods for Doom and Duke 3D lol

[median wraith]

I started on my 14s when had the first computer technically

[pearl elk]

not released because there wasnt an internet back then lol, I had to put em on floppy take em to a friends and get on a BBS

[tidal ivy]

my first mods were C&C, but I don't think I ever released any of those

also fiddled with Quake 2 a bit

C&C mods don't count anyway, it's just config files

[cursive crypt]

1st mod, trying to change the color of the tanks in Dune 2 🤔

[pearl elk]

I consider manually memory hacking RPGs modding too 😛

[cursive crypt]

It is 👍

[median wraith]

I had like 100 downloads per map back in 2008

I had 0 downloads in my game demos in 2020

Progression

[pearl elk]

I remember with Darklands I was trying to do an age hack so I could get a powerful cleric dude but it didnt work and I killed the character of old age before I even got to use him in game

that was the moment I knew it was the greatest RPG ever created

[cursive crypt]

Ha... I remember hacking the stats of the old XCOM games... it was fun to see how the "stat" bar when outside the frame and on the next row. It was the time I learned what is overflow - turned out too much in fact is less.

[pearl elk]

lol I dont blame you for hacking XCOM that game is so insane, save scumming is the way 😛

[tidal ivy]

I quite enjoyed modding Freelancer, dialing up the stats on everything to 11

then deciding it wasn't enough and dialing it up to 110000

much fun

[pearl elk]

oh Freelancer, I tried freighting water a few times, got hammered every time

[median wraith]

I had your @tidal ivy pain feel today on Saturday no one of the public places here are open or work on Saturday...
Were you the one about that package wasn't it ?

[tidal ivy]

dunno, not recently

I get most of my mail sent to the office

[median wraith]

were some package you ordered

or maybe was someone else

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/romero/status/1358141989431181318

𝕵𝖔𝖍𝖓 𝕽𝖔𝖒𝖊𝖗𝖔 (@romero)

Pre-Spring Cleaning! My 1999 Age of Empires 2 Release Party VIP pass and my Space Invaders wallet. https://t.co/leEAIjwhg4 https://t.co/rM6Sc7zCBO

Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 7:54 PM

[pearl elk]

RIP Ensemble

[median wraith]

recommendations for voice actors freelance webs ?

[fathom wadi]

I would check with the Voice Actors Guild In North America.

[pearl elk]

I do a great Aussie accent

you could always hire Trump, I hear he's lookin for some non-union work these days 😛

[fathom wadi]

Heart of Glass is the first song I ever remember liking

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Dolls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS0O4g1ogqY my fave punk album alongside https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lawnmower+deth+billy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHug3GYrPXw this is a classic 😄

Give me some of that infinite bouncing G.I and you can keep the beer.

https://www.move.ai/

https://twitter.com/LDelayen/status/1357516764746252289?s=20

Laurent Delayen (@LDelayen)

Epic Games is hiring animation programmers (runtime, tools, root motion, retargeting, deformation, authoring, anim synthesis). We're flexible with location. If you are passionate about building cutting edge animation tools and technology please apply! #UE5
https://t.co/ymAhkLJ78I

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Twitter · Feb 5, 2021, 2:29 AM

[pearl elk]

Sounds like a super easy job lol

[fathom wadi]

I just realised I posted these links in the wrong channel. I was meant to post them in the voice chat text channel 😄

[pearl elk]

Wondered why you suddenly started on about punk music

[fathom wadi]

https://twitter.com/DeepSpaceBanana/status/1357874972971171844?s=20 this is epic

Taizyd "🚀Going to the Moon🚀" Korambayil (@DeepSpaceBanana)

Im obsessed..
Wtf is this dude on.. https://t.co/LjdY1gHGf5

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 2:13 AM

[median wraith]

I think is the same link where I applied

all at Epic is posting

Lol

American Sim says, is about get weight to push barriers that get your weight out

[fathom wadi]

you applied for Epic @median wraith ?

[median wraith]

yeah applied days ago

so its a no

[fathom wadi]

good luck brother. Hope you win a spot

[mossy nexus]

https://twitter.com/Vuthric/status/1358052678148886534

Asher Zhu (@Vuthric)

Patenting a game mechanism that builds upon a heap of former great game designs is among the most disrespectful things you could do to the industry and gamers
I realize this is not the first but it's still absurd to me how patenting an idea is even allowed https://t.co/StTjTL5aNc

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 1:59 PM

[median wraith]

Na I didn't get any luck, they sent an email where says if 2 weeks pass or alike then I wasn't choosen @fathom wadi

whatever at least tried

[fathom wadi]

ah well you cant get it if you don't apply

like me

who is too scared to 😄

[median wraith]

scared why ?

[fathom wadi]

imposter syndrome

[median wraith]

jesus

look you have to try

cannot be with the impostor syndrome all the time

I know I will be regretted from start like, is the biggest chance but no because that I don't send it

you have to know what you did, like giving my example I have 6 years of exp with the engine, worked for others with it and made 20 contributions and plugins for the community

maybe they don't get you because don't like you here or in other company, but you won't never know if never try

if you do things the people will have an opinion of you maybe is negative or maybe is positive, if you don't do anything in the live then you can be sure it will be neutral, or you can risk it and do something whatever the final result the final end is always to balance it to the possitive

Tim once posted on Twitter to a know dev here that Epic didn't wanted he in the team but he wanted so cannot do anything at all

but you try

[pearl elk]

Which job did you apply for Hevedy?

[median wraith]

just remember @fathom wadi you are not a croquette, so not all the people will like you

😂

[median wraith]

Technical Artist

[fathom wadi]

Well I know one person at Epic who won't like me. Im not sure why but it is what it is 😄 I've said dumb stuff in the past so they probably have a good reason.

[median wraith]

Well I know at least a person too actually got me blocked

but others follow me so

[pearl elk]

You dont have to like people to work with em tbh

[median wraith]

Well you cannot work in a toxic ambient or be a toxic

[pearl elk]

yeah but you dont have to be toxic just because you dont like someone

[median wraith]

I didn't had any problems on the groups I worked for so

[pearl elk]

you put your personal differences aside for a greater good

[median wraith]

well at work each one follows a role at the end so

[pearl elk]

unless ofcoarse that person is just difficult to work with, they can be an awesome person and be difficult to work with though

[fathom wadi]

Im not difficult to work with, i'm just misunderstood because I speak directly, without thinking properly sometimes. I blame lack of intravenous coffee machines.

[median wraith]

there is people that will sentence you because you did rant of tools or how something is done outside of a job or whatever

I think there are worst things but

[pearl elk]

Its okay to make mistakes though, just own up to em and move on.

[fathom wadi]

thats what I try to do. If nothing else, I am a learning machine. Teach me my mistake and I will advance.

[median wraith]

well that's matter of control yourself, no related with the coffee XD

[pearl elk]

Expecting people to be perfect is entirely fruitless, if someone expects you to never make a mistake thats a fault of theirs not yours

[fathom wadi]

well mostly my verbal stuff is either me being depressed or angry. It's not something I have a control of in a way. I do try.

[median wraith]

Well a fault is something you did in given time frame because you had an issue, were evolving or alike, or a bad joke you did or whatever, but if is constant then is a real problem

[pearl elk]

Dude, its not a problem, managers should know how to deal with these things

If someone is too obnoxious they wont even get in the door

[median wraith]

never seen such thing, the most common you will find at jobs is people talking of others badly or whatever, but thats a common here at least, and is common too to find envious people

[median wraith]

I think each one should be mature enough in order to dont need managers to manage it lol

[fathom wadi]

true story. I used to be racist, homophobic and transphobic. It's only through learning and self-discovery that i realised I was being an ignorant prick. Now I support BLM, LGBTQ+ and all human rights to be whomever you are without prejudice.
But if you only take the old me... I'm a real dick that nobody would want to know.

[pearl elk]

Yes well, thats kinda why managers exist because there are situations where 2 totally mature people can still hit an impasse

There is no rule saying you have to get along with everyone you meet forever

If you think everyone likes you, haha I got some news

[median wraith]

"news"

[pearl elk]

Best anyone can do is not be that guy (or gal) the one who gets really defensive even when theyre in the wrong and emails everyone each day of the week until their disciplinary meeting

Im sure we all know atleast one 🙂

[median wraith]

the wat

[pearl elk]

people who are particularly obtuse, thats how I tend to put it

even if you dont like someone if everyone goes with the flow it works but if theres that one person who always walks the opposite way just to bump into everyone then calls everyone out for bumping into them

thats why companies aim for the right fit even over the most qualified

[median wraith]

I never know such extreme case, tbh never worked on big companies so

well I knew cases of people in public forums or discord of people acting alike but

never in a job

[pearl elk]

yeah Ive been pretty lucky, Ive had bosses with high expectations but none that proper scream and get down hard

If you dont like someone on the job right and you avoid working with them you actually show you dont fit, it looks worse for you so its better to just bite the bullet and be civil and get it done

Ive seen too many work dramas I just dont touch em anymore 😛

Im old enough to have honed my selective hearing

[mossy nexus]

One of my old managers was like that, he really went off on people (usually women). He tried it on me once. Once.

[pearl elk]

I know they are out there, Id probably put myself in the firing line for anyone on my team. Theres tough love and then theres just being an ass

https://twitter.com/barrelshifter/status/1357861901858861056

Jessica Paquette (@barrelshifter)

My boyfriend and I were talking about programmer personalities/work styles as RPG classes but the twist is that there has to be an upside and a downside to each class

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 1:21 AM

ouch, yeah I suppose in that case alittle angry off the cuff comment might be allowed

I imagine plenty of hedge fund managers said worst last week hehe

I like to abuse people who make stuff, like MS or Ford, I just let it rip when Im frustrated hehe

figure its better to take it out on people far away than those immediately around me

[umbral totem]

happy saturday friends

im looking to build my first pc (spec'd for UE4), part supply permitting - here's the list (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gVf24d)

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gVf24d

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard ($179.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($126.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB Founders Edition Video Card
Case: Phanteks Eclipse P360A ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA BQ 600 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($74.95 @ Amazon)
Total: $906.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-06 18:12 EST-0500

Would love to hear thoughts on this build (re. compatibility, power, value, or otherwise)

[fathom wadi]

looks good to me

monitor?

I might actually take a 750w EVGA tbh but yeah

600w will cover the GPU and system no worries but who knows what you want to plug into it later.

probably. I think it would touch the 500w mark but thats based on old info so I dunno. They might have the usage down by now

haven't built one since 2017 tho so im a little behind

[pearl elk]

you'll be surprised power usage has gone down a fair bit with new AMD chips

[fathom wadi]

aye thats something that I thought might happen but I wasn't sure tbh. Its generally the trend for tdp? right?

[pearl elk]

yup, Nvidia is alittle against the grain this round but the 3060 should be a single 8 pin aye

[fathom wadi]

interesting

[pearl elk]

theyre running those specs in laptops with like a 15w tdp lol

[fathom wadi]

yeah I bet thats only until it works. 😄

[pearl elk]

probably a 200w power brick yeah

[umbral totem]

have some lenovo 24in 1080p monitors which should be okay for now

[fathom wadi]

ahh I dont see in 1080p anymore. 2k+ or go home 😄

[umbral totem]

haha when i can afford to see in 2k, i will too

[fathom wadi]

I dunno. I had a 4k monitor like 6 years ago and it was £450 then so it must be cheaper now 😄

[umbral totem]

true true

im trying to hold back on spending on things that don't affect my dev experience / times tho

[fathom wadi]

I have a 1900x1200 as my secondary monitor but I use it for UFC main events so I can carry on during the 90 billion adverts.

[median wraith]

https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1357939849936990210

IGN (@IGN)

WB Interactive has finally secured the patent to Middle-earth: Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War's signature Nemesis system after multiple failed attempts. https://t.co/LLo6U1XHcS

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Twitter · Feb 6, 2021, 6:31 AM

Does this mean they can demand Ubisoft for the last Assasins creeds?

🤪

Tbh patent such things turned a bit absurd

[median wraith]

Well and portfolio

The master

[spare glade]

https://tenor.com/view/oops-yikes-awkward-jennifer-lawrence-gif-6007094

[broken sigil]

I canceled this update so many times by now and it constantly keeps resuming by itself, now it doesn't even let me cancel it (grayed out) 🤦‍♂️

[spare glade]

Uninstall the game?

lol

[broken sigil]

what if I decide I want to play it again 😛

[spare glade]

Copy it to a HDD, transplant it back when your ready to do the download lol

[broken sigil]

lol

[thorny dock]

am I "trippin" or did the logo change slightly?

[median wraith]

No that was UE V

Or GTA V

😜

There is a Spanish speakers UE4 discord where each day someone post or ask about pirated links as absurd as it is

[fluid bloom]

saw this on reddit https://i.redd.it/12jr4nremwf61.jpg

looks nice but the gun makes no sense

looking at the cylinder it looks like the barrel is on the bottom of it

but the hammer is at the top

haven't played destiny so I'm just going to assume that it has a barrel at the top 🤔

[median wraith]

Well it's impossible it is at button

The rotating cylinder is at top

[soft night]

what if both are rotating

[thorny dock]

thats not too impossible is it? looks like the bullet would go through the middle indent of the metal, in between the gold engraving

[soft night]

or bottom of the cylinder is that firepin actually

hidden mechanism what you see and to that barrel what shoot the projectile

[fluid bloom]

I'm just wondering if there's a second barrel that is obstructed by the golden plating

and the lower one is sort of mega-boom-grenade-launcher-barrel or something 😄

[rare sparrow]

There are real guns like that

[median wraith]

yeah then the firing part is the bottom in the cylinder

Origin [Uninstall Mirror Edge]

Steam [Something is going on with Mirror Edge redownloading]

Disk Usage 100%

[fluid bloom]

so how does the hammer move then?

[median wraith]

curved upside

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, games & movies have so much with reality. There are always stupid/fantasy things.

[median wraith]

Games they only know in asia made their way to the top steam

[cursive crypt]

Haven't played even one of these 🤔

[median wraith]

could be nice to know whats the people playing on Source SDK Base

[timber viper]

It was about GTA V Roleplay servers, if I remember correctly

[median wraith]

yeah just read it on Reddit lol

but with the SDK and no just the SpaceWar

https://github.com/citizenfx/fivem/blob/5bad342ab5dcb8d2f5d10b8823913e8c71802619/code/components/ros-patches-five/include/steam/isteamgameserver.h

oh

the work under this just wow

[median wraith]

isn't illegal to promote a marketplace item using other one ?

like complementing it ?

[fathom wadi]

only if it requires it to work

but there are exceptions in code plugins I think

[tidal ivy]

hammer is in a different location on those - in the Destiny one it would strike whatever is in the top of the cylinder, in your photos it's striking the bottom. I think this is the cusp of the design issue, hehe

The barrel also does not appear to actually be aligned with the cylinder, it's slightly off (talking about the in-game one still)

[median wraith]

well technically talking of a C++ plugin that add smooth spline movement but actually is using the locomotion system from marketplace so at the end it looks smoother than what actually is

😂

[fresh heath]

https://twitter.com/DARPA/status/1358432874031173638

DARPA (@DARPA)

On this day in 1958, DoD Directive 5105.15 established the Advanced Research Projects Agency, later renamed the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. The first research efforts focused on space technology, ballistic missile defense, and propellants. https://t.co/59lLWofCMv

Twitter · Feb 7, 2021, 3:10 PM

[dense storm]

heh you should have seen my inventory system

was around 2K lines of code

now its about 800 😄

i just prefer c++ in general for cleanliness

BP can get a tangled mess so easily

[median wraith]

this

that and unable to copy paste code at all

[median wraith]

why nobody sells some text chat for multuplayer

but C++ based

[pearl elk]

I really dont like C++ but if I want to script in text its my only choice, long live UnrealScript

[cursive crypt]

"I really dont like C++" 😱

[pearl elk]

I never did, its why I chose to code for Q3 over GoldSrc 🙂

C boooiiii

[cursive crypt]

" Q3 over GoldSrc" - what is this?

C is fine, ok

[pearl elk]

C++ is only half good cuz of additions made recently, still gonna be another 10 years before its actual good but then when they get to year 9 they'll rip the 10yrs worth of work to make it only meh again 😛

meanwhile Im going to cry into my coffee every time Sweeney and Carmack talk about languages like there might be a sliver of hope of getting a decent game scripting language in the future 🙂

[cursive crypt]

Can't say I have seen good scripting language for game apps, yeah.

But there is nothing to wait for, they chose that skooma script.

[pearl elk]

https://elderscrolls.fandom.com/wiki/Skooma_(Skyrim)

[cursive crypt]

Yeah, looked kinda high-level to me. There is some info out there, but I guess they will make a derivative of it - being relevant for Fortnite.

[normal prism]

They should really just rename the "Add another client" button to "Nuke & crash the engine"

[fresh heath]

I wonder how much time is left until Unreal 5 is released

[normal prism]

Same

Hope we get some news soon

[pearl elk]

UE5 will send us all valentines day cards

[cursive crypt]

I'm not in hurry, whenever + several months of bug fixing.

[umbral totem]

anyone have insight on taking a 3700x vs a 5600x? here's the comparison: https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-7-3700X-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-5600X/4043vs4084

for UE4 dev specifically

[quiet narwhal]

depends on how you clock them and what you are doing

in the engine, probably similar. compiling the engine, compiling a ton of shaders, building lights, probably the more 700x due to more cores

but if the 3700 is at 3.6ghz and you clock the 5600 to 4.3 then thats another story. similar clocks? more cores

[cursive crypt]

https://i.redd.it/6zp626fqd2g61.jpg

[umbral totem]

okay, helpful

[pearl elk]

consider that UE4 wont be the only thing you do on the computer

[umbral totem]

true

the base/boost between 3700x and 5600x is:

3700x - 3.6/4.4
5600x - 3.7/4.6

is that uptick for 5600x (and the corresponding QOL improvements for non-UE4 stuff) worth trading for two less cores?

[quiet narwhal]

we;ll I never said base or boost but how you clock them

[humble remnant]

Don't look at GHz, IPC between Ryzen gens is vastly different

[quiet narwhal]

like I clock my 3950x at 4.1 constant for max on all cores

[humble remnant]

Best bet is to look at various reviews, I'd recommend Gamers Nexus since they do both gaming and production workloads and you can draw conclusions from there

[quiet narwhal]

and yes uplift is nice between generations so again it depends on what you will use it for and how much you want it

3700x vs 5600x both at say 4.0 the 5600x will be faster with those cores. if you use something that can benefit from the extra 4 threads then chances are those 4 threads will be better than the uplift

[humble remnant]

Also, another thing

5600X works better if all RAM slots are filled, with performance benefit of up to 10%

[umbral totem]

ah, interesting

i was planning on keeping two slots open, and using 2x16 in the others

[dense storm]

Ryzen loves rams!

the faster the ram speed also makes a difference.

[humble remnant]

As long as the timings are kept lower

For Ryzen, a lower timing is better than higher frequency

[pearl elk]

I guess the thing is here that you can always upgrade with either

[dense storm]

nice CL16 3600 ram

is what you want

CL14 is just way too much money

[humble remnant]

I mean, depends

My RAM is 3600 CL 18, but I've clocked it to 3000 CL14

It performs the best out of all other I tried (3200 CL16, 3466 CL16, 3600 CL18)

Anyway TLDR for the 5600X vs 3700X: If you clock up the 5600X, it may well match the 3700X, but also the 5600X will have a much better singlethread performance

[umbral totem]

hmm okay

[humble remnant]

In some cases, the 5600X is as much as 30% faster

[quiet narwhal]

https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Unreal-Engine-AMD-Ryzen-5000-Series-CPU-Performance-1967/

[umbral totem]

Just saw this

The 5600x is looking worth it

[thorny dock]

well, that explains why among us is 1.29 gigs..

[humble remnant]

[pearl elk]

woop woop 6900XT should be here soon

[humble remnant]

Nice

[supple ivy]

Now That I see people talking about computer parts, was wondering, does anyone know european based custom pc builders? Import fees and shipping from USA is too much...

[humble remnant]

Best bet is to look locally

Shipping between EU countries is tough already and I don't know the case with customs in different countries, especially when it comes to a PC

[foggy path]

shipping between EU countries should be fine 🤔

no customs

[humble remnant]

Usually your local stores will have their own brands or none at all, simply grab and go

[foggy path]

but yeah definitely agree look locally if you have anything available

for one you'll have a much easier time if you have to deal with warranties

[humble remnant]

Majority of tech stores will have prebuilds ready, but as far as their parts go, some things can be questionable

Still, some that offer parts can also offer to assemble it for you, usually at a fee

Tbh it's better to grab a 3990X if you can also make use of the PCIe lanes

Otherwise it's a waste of money, better to grab a 3950X/5950X

Also those are usually tested in quad channel so that speeds up things too

[keen solstice]

Nice

why?

yeah me too!

yeah

its good for learning but UE is on a different level

yes!

I got sick of that

it was the integrations

I wanted behavior trees

yeah

yeah

somethings I miss to be honest

but I need to move on and make something

I am so tired of things not working or waiting on developers

yeah

yeah

When I saw you in here I was happy I made the right decision lol

yes!

and the controller lol

to be honest it to dependent on its community for core stuff

yeah lol

Have you found a good way to balance c++ and blueprints?

Do you uses bps for behaviors only?

yeah

really?

quicker?

lol

yeah

i see

Do you know any good videos on like animations or switching characters ?

really

cool

proper way to create animation locomotions

cool

ah good idea

really

lol

Yeah I need to see how a game is built

thank you

cool

Yeah I figure I learn the system first before going into it

but I like it

cause alot of the stuff I know from unity

[ashen zinc]

Does anyone have a spare “Clubhouse” invite? I’m a AAA game character artist willing to offer tips/advice in exchange. Or cash lol.

[cursive crypt]

“Clubhouse”

[abstract haven]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ3LphA-SW4

[ancient hornet]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26061935

benhurmarcel

Terraria on Stadia cancelled after developer's Google account gets locked

Hacker News · Feb 8, 2021, 8:10 AM

[median wraith]

I like the people giving news using a translator because don't know spanish

something tells me that always ends good

[stiff crystal]

reverse engineering software is probably illegal in most countries in the world I would assume

which is the core basis for any game modding

so there's not really much new there on software side

[median wraith]

yeah kinda up to an extend

[stiff crystal]

also about every game distribution platform's EULA/TOS straight out forbids this but it's another thing how enforceable these terms are... they can still lock you out of your account if they want

[median wraith]

just here don't respect individual licenses it seems

[stiff crystal]

there are some platforms that are actually threatening users for using mods

[median wraith]

the notice is from 1 year ago it seems

[stiff crystal]

for example if you run modded beat saber on oculus quest, facebook will spam huge warning that you are breaking their terms

it's kinda issue there because FB owns that game directly, so they get overprotective about it

I don't think anyone has gotten banned over it though

[median wraith]

I don't get the beat saber thing, is just a list of 10 fixed songs isn't it ?

[stiff crystal]

it's probably close to 20 but yeah, game is only popular because custom songs exist

[median wraith]

oh okay didn't know there was custom ones allowed since there are DLCs

[stiff crystal]

well, they have like 5 DLC packs and that's it