it's pretty useful in all cases
#lounge
fluid bloom
fathom wadi
not taking anything away from it's usefulness but they make it sound like you get better performance when you don't. You get your core split on performance between two commands.
fluid bloom
a ton of cpu cycles are spent on CPU cores waiting for data from memory
it's better to spend those cycles doing something, which is what multithreading helps with
fringe sundial
intel is also not ahead on singlethread any more
AMD ryzen 5000 series is stronger than any intel cpu core-by-core
and it also has moar cores
there is absolutely no reason, none at all, to buy an intel CPU these days
unless you are minmaxing for absolute value on a gaming rig, going for one of those 6 core but fast intel cpus, which is not a good idea and they cant even do PCI 4.0
and doing that is mad stupid
fathom wadi
I've Intel since I dropped my AMD Thunderbird chip. Never regretted it but my next upgrade is going amd.
fringe sundial
hyperthreading is also something amd has had too since the first ryzens
and it works exactly the same as intel hyperthreading
just different name, but thats just trademark. Its exactly the same exact thing
ancient hornet
Intel might be changing for the good with their new CEO and stuff
but this won't materialise until a couple years anyway ๐ฎ
pearl elk
if you like expensive paper weights you could go Intel discrete graphics ๐
fringe sundial
currently intel cpus are only selling due to marketing
amd cpus are better at every single price point
outside of some very specific things
intel just hasnt been able to improve cpus for about 5 years
they have been completely stuck
so they just get a cpu and clock it to oblivion
pearl elk
OEMs are just trying to dump old stock, thats why Intel are selling lol
fluid bloom
it's like P4 days all over again
spark granite
You know I forgot about ryzen, they do seem to be competing rather admirably
pearl elk
DDR5 though, I mean if Intel get the best performance on older architecture Im not sure it'll be enough
AMD arnt competing on price they are competing on features which puts Intel in a very sticky spot
cursive crypt
More the better. However, cores any day before htreads (for some number or very close ๐ )
iron token
I got INTC calls, just saying. It's funny how people count them out
zinc matrix
Should I try โThe World Next Doorโ?
iron token
Just wait for alder lake
cursive crypt
There is something always better on the horizon. I'm curious too, tho.
pearl elk
Intel need something past the lake finally
they've been on the lake so long theyre gonna drown
See for Intel its not just about hardware, its their naming conventions, you have to spend a week studying Intel language just to know what theyre talking about
cursive crypt
What do you mean?
pearl elk
AMD look at their line ups, very simple even in the GPU space, its none of the -20GB suffix or other little numbers to trip you up. The worst of it is the 6800 and the 6800XT
oh I want an intel one zero one one zero one zero zero one
cursive crypt
Ah, for the product names? Like 4970, 6700, 10900 etc?
pearl elk
Core Duo was great, nice and easy to understand
then i7 was good but they got hung up on it now when you say i7 you could be talking about a decade old chip or a brand new one
You say Zen 3, people know exactly what you mean
cursive crypt
Well, if you have a diverse portfolio, guess they got confused with names.
pearl elk
Nothing wrong with a diverse portfolio but consumers, especially every day, they arnt buying Intel cuz theyre the best
theyre buying Intel cuz its what they get sold
some salesman somewhere is like yeah sure babe this laptop rocks its got the i5, its an amazing chip
cursive crypt
That's how relationship forms.
pearl elk
Im nerdy as hell and I had trouble with Intels lineup when I was buying a PC few months back
I mean it makes sense when you look at the numbers 10th generation i9, 10900 but thats just the CPU, then theres the chipsets and sockets. AMD is pretty much like duh Ryzen go in here
Its crazy because 6 months ago I would have been trying to defend Intel and Nvidia
soft night
well intel have so many lineups what dont match and its they mess, but there is things what is good on 11th generation
for arm chips well nvidia own that thing
soft night
amd have so confusing naming it own for long long time
remote brook
Shit, the job I had today got cancelled this morning, just as I was getting ready too. Time to program instead.
pearl elk
amd have so confusing naming it own for long long time
I guess the one good thing is you can kinda compare processors in a way, like a i7 is similar to a Ryzen 7 etc
soft night
there is risen cables what also confuse
pearl elk
But those numbers wouldnt need to change with a rebranding, I just think Intel could use its own Ryzen where it tries to stick to a socket for longer and focus on feature set
soft night
what if i could say in future all the motherboard become more modular
then you could just swap things to it like socket for example
pearl elk
trouble with that is the tablet, laptop and console markets are all the opposite method, its all large single boards
humble remnant
Intel did have a solid socket, it's that they decided to sell more chipsets
See the 6000 to 9000 series
steady vortex
Hey guys, how's your day going?
cursive crypt
Wasting life.
steady vortex
Bahaha. In what way
soft night
you want to see majestic view? https://twitter.com/cmcollins_hort/status/1355784693438885888?s=20
pearl elk
I must visit this place and practise my Jedi training
tulip orbit
tulip orbit
that why you play it?
pearl elk
Nah I play it cuz Im trying to work out the design thinking behind putting a dodge button on Z
tulip orbit
yeah, should be on the L key
spark granite
Discord out here locking me out for hours I missed the whole chat
Also I have only a laptop track pad at the moment does that count? @pearl elk
fresh heath
turbid spindleBOT
@zinc matrix, :coin: Tails
median wraith
I wish I knew in what the hell the computer is using the 3D GPU side with Steam only opened
fresh heath
I wish I knew in what the hell the computer is using the 3D GPU side with Steam ...
That's really weird
Maybe there is really a miner
fresh heath
Are you using a 4K monitor?
fresh heath
Probably still too much for UI compositing
fresh heath
I tried to move cursor around in a Steam window, the GPU load went to ~20%
median wraith
lol
fresh heath
The tiles pop-up effects are hungry enough to do that
median wraith
the fact is steam is taking resources even if the window is closed
well but egs runs under the whole game engine
fresh heath
and Steam runs under the whole browser engine
Chromium Embedded Framework, to be precise
median wraith
errr no
I mean the launcher runs on top of a game engine and chromium is inside too
steam have a custom lib system a la blender and chromium
the app don't work under chromium
pearl elk
maybe if you were talking about old steam but this is new steam with all the whizzbangflashyflashy
steady sorrel
zinc matrix
holy shit blue prints are so revolutionary
pearl elk
ยฟPor quรฉ no entiendes que es realmente muy simple mi amigo? Quiero decir, si tenemos que repasarlo en detalle, podemos hacerlo, pero llevarรก mucho tiempo y probablemente no serรก muy emocionante para ninguna de las partes involucradas.
Did I accidentally travel back to 2014?
steady sorrel
ยฟPor quรฉ no entiendes que es realmente muy simple mi amigo? Quiero decir, si ten...
pearl elk
https://tenor.com/view/confused-white-persian-guardian-why-gif-11908780
cuz everything sounds awesomely complicated when you say it in Spanish ๐
pearl elk
We should do an UE4 telenovela, such drama
median wraith
ยฟPor quรฉ no entiendes que es realmente muy simple mi amigo? Quiero decir, si ten...
que ?
whats the context for that
pearl elk
and the Num of the counting shall possibly be outside the bounds of an array, which is why I need a holy hand grenade to cleanse this source of evil
someone said they understand nothing
steady sorrel
someone said they understand nothing
steady sorrel
tulip orbit
steady sorrel
cursive crypt
Does not work.
steady sorrel
What?
The cancel button??
Task Manager?
Well I suppose that the cancel button crashes the whole editor?
So let it run in the bg for a few min and check if it makes any further process
If it doesn't then I'm probably wrong...
steady sorrel
steady sorrel
pearl elk
steady sorrel
steady sorrel
Back in the days Street Fighter was a cool game
broken sigil
๐
soft night
pearl elk
steady sorrel
What was going on before the GIF war happened?
tulip orbit
steady sorrel
Well do u guys watch anime? Im kinda bored so if u have any suggestions then I will take it...
tulip orbit
steady sorrel
tulip orbit
steady sorrel
steady sorrel
rich quiver
steady sorrel
Oof
rich quiver
google got googled
narrow vigil
Is posting GGJ game is restricted? (ofc made in unreal)
rich quiver
high traffic on the website
broken sigil
yeah you can as long as it's made in ue4 ^^
dense storm
or for UE ofc ๐
broken sigil
yep
cursive crypt
What was Stadia? A game console afaik, kinda missed when it arrived, when it went out.
fresh heath
A game streaming service
Basically OnLive but made by Google, if anyone still remembers OnLive
OnLive also had a console-like thingy for TVs
cursive crypt
Ah, I see. lol, thanks ๐
humble remnant
but every node does that
zinc matrix
Quick question, is DN legit for blueprints and tutorials ?
dense storm
DN?
zinc matrix
Deez nuts 
cursive crypt
lol
broken sigil
gonna act like that was funny @zinc matrix
dense storm
but DN could mean anything? maybe i am just an ๐ด
tulip orbit
!8ball should I be productive today?
turbid spindleBOT
@tulip orbit, :8ball: It is decidedly so.
tulip orbit
๐ฉ
cursive crypt
!8ball should I go sleep?
turbid spindleBOT
@cursive crypt, :8ball: My sources say no.
cursive crypt
bah... I'm going.
tulip orbit
๐ฆ
cursive crypt
It's late I mean.
steady sorrel
!8ball should I go sleep?
turbid spindleBOT
@steady sorrel, :8ball: Concentrate and ask again.
turbid spindleBOT
@steady sorrel, :8ball: It is certain.
steady sorrel
:/
dense storm
!8ball am i the best?
turbid spindleBOT
@dense storm, :8ball: Very doubtful.
dense storm
๐ฆ
cursive crypt
Sorry y'all
steady sorrel
Y?
tulip orbit
!8ball is a nap considered productive?
turbid spindleBOT
@tulip orbit, :8ball: Concentrate and ask again.
soft night
!8ball next unreal will be so unreal?
turbid spindleBOT
@soft night, :8ball: Without a doubt.
dense storm
!8ball Is it ok to fall asleep at the keyboard during work?
turbid spindleBOT
@dense storm, :8ball: Most likely.
dense storm
good.
broken sigil
fresh heath
rich quiver
soft night
well the pipeline what also ea frostbite use https://devblogs.microsoft.com/cppblog/blizzard-diablo-iv-debugs-linux-core-dumps-from-visual-studio/
rich quiver
well better then autdesk maya base engine use in OW
turbid spindleBOT
@gloomy badge, :8ball: Don't count on it.
dense storm
lol
pearl compass
Maybe it'll be a collector's item in 50 years /s
just like all the ET Atari games
proud pier
Heh
fluid bloom
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1356324976442417152
typical google
fresh heath
but the characters seem dull
How many episodes you have watched?
fluid bloom
TIL boston dynamics robots use sort of motion matching system to move about based on the environment
neat
fresh heath
cursive crypt
Imagine
foggy path
Not sure if that video is even worth watching with that title
soft night
seems like one case manufacture have some issues with they case Risen cable
median wraith
Not sure if that video is even worth watching with that title
well this guys does good reviews
soft night
NZXT H1 case seems to able to catch fire
median wraith
is almost 1h video
foggy path
Well looking at the title and thumbnail it sure doesn't look like a fair review of it lol
dense storm
@soft night Gamers Nexus caused a nice fire with that case
soft night
the respond from NZXT came it seems also jaytwocents did similar video
spark granite
Its not a bad game it was just handled badly by management and the investors dollar bill noose around their neck. Thats about it for why cyberpunk is 'so bad'
median wraith
Well his titles are usually GOOD or BAD @foggy path middle point disappointing but thats rare XD
wups wrong ping
dense storm
heh
median wraith
By the way, sent a week ago the message to the epic wizard, no replies from any of the two (epic or he) but at least had to try ^^ @foggy path
ancient ingot
m3333333p
royal kernel
hmnmmm where do i post paintingss
deep glen
no thats for graphics questions
deep glen
yo
ancient ingot
luos pls help me
i dont understand why people make a simple model of a flashbang 13,000 tris
deep glen
because its the best flashbang ever made
ancient ingot
๐คฃ it may be ...
thin storm
reminds me of that guy with that 100k tris barrel. haha still makes me laugh.
he posted that on multiple servers, he just wanted to troll. all this edgeloops. lol
its still on wip somewhere
foggy path
By the way, sent a week ago the message to the epic wizard, no replies from any ...
Yeah was worth a shot :)
unborn lotus
Lumen??
median wraith
Lumen isn't Lumin
gilded vigil
lumIn not lumEn
median wraith
"Fixed! UE-106192 StaticMeshEditor - "Generate UV" tool no longer works"
Someone told me the 4.26 were smooth
there are 2 pages of bugs
"Fixed! UE-103658 BP compiler crash"
lol
"Fixed! UE-103873 Vulkan Mobile SM5 not building without Vulkan Mobile Renderer enabled"
well that one makes sense
mossy nexus
That's a feature.
mossy nexus
Lumen isn't Lumin
Aww guys... twasn't being serious ๐ It is the lounge after all ๐
cursive crypt
Me too! But I haven't upgraded ^^
median wraith
cursive crypt
Who is the captain?
median wraith
maybe your Boss when you work in a small team or maybe your right side inside you
๐ค
the life
red haven
can't work today, don't have money to invest but I cant keep my eyes off the stock ticker because I am so curious about it
soft night
fluid bloom
"remastered in ultra hd 4k" is such a weird point to make in the context of games
fresh heath
It's a big deal for platforms without proper backwards compatibility and moddability
fluid bloom
I guess
pearl elk
any RTX or no?
fluid bloom
on PC 4k is just an option change ๐
the trailer showed nothing new
very light on actual details
fresh heath
Maybe they remade the ending of ME3 at least
fluid bloom
๐
fresh heath
Although it really needs at least half of the story to be rewritten
fluid bloom
I don't think so
pearl elk
Yeah dont fix Andromeda or Anthem just remake the old shit ๐
fluid bloom
was it that you couldn't control your squad in andromeda?
pearl elk
Why is it every character in more recent EA games walk like theyre trying to shepherd a soccer player?
fresh heath
I suspect everyone gave up on Anthem by now
pearl elk
could it be because they just copy/paster Fifas IK, hmm
Andromeda was whack though, like you go out on a mission and somehow everyone levels up like some weird RPG cult
soft night
MonsCult
pearl elk
EA Cult
foggy path
my discord server is actually called KVLT of ZOMG 
pearl elk
going on any raids soon? ๐
steady sorrel
soft night
N7 Cult
chilly igloo
In case someone looking Photoshop alternative, Affinity Photo now have a discount of 50%
spark granite
I will join this mass effect cult, I was left with a bad taste after andromeda tho
I've found manga studio to be a really cool alternative myself
Obviously not helpful for all of photoshops abilities but the illustration side is top notch
soft night
so ea bring college football back
spark granite
I'm just happy ea aren't tainting starwars anymore
soft night
ubisoft are doing that too
spark granite
Ah yes but uhhh... I'm pretending that ubisoft aren't going to ruin it
fresh heath
icy meadow
fresh heath
cursive crypt
Can't see him.
soft night
he is so tall you know
median wraith
and there you go another Starship in the dust
not sure why stabilizes the rocket soo late
mossy nexus
^ the guy who played Chewbacca in the new star wars episodes
Actually the same height as they are, but they used the same technique as they did for Gandalf...
fluid bloom
nah, Joonas is like 210 cm tall
fresh heath
humble remnant
What the
fresh heath
Uruguay is doomed
Moscow's streets are filled with Putin's goons https://twitter.com/msvetov/status/1356672153769431041
rich quiver
putin is scare
foggy path
The Navalnyi business is kinda peculiar
He's a hard-right dude
I think westerners don't realize this, and only are like YA GO NAVALNYI because he's not Putin
dense storm
but someone should not be poisoned then put in prison just for being a critic of Putin
that is the reason.
soft night
well its the way they do the thing what is even not what russia justice system is to be
thorny dock
yeah i'd get my ass handed to me by 14 kangaroos, probably even by just 1
foggy path
but someone should not be poisoned then put in prison just for being a critic of...
This is true, I think most people just assume he's "a good guy" because of his opposition of Putin, when infact he isn't
drifting quest
yoooo boys ๐
are you good
@dense storm hows life dude
hope i didnt ping the hell out of you today ๐
yeah well, today i take a break and drink some nice wine
broken sigil
๐
pearl elk
spark granite
I thought THQ were dead? If they're still about then WHY DO I NOT HAVE A NEW DAWN OF WAR GAME
fluid bloom
dang https://www.reddit.com/r/unrealengine/comments/lb9d82/scifi_diablolike_developed_in_unreal_engine/
spark granite
@fluid bloom is that your game?
fluid bloom
I wouldn't say "dang" to my own game
๐
and fyi, I mean dang in a "damn that's awesome" way
ah, the author posted here #work-in-progress message
rapid magnet
.. why is my 5950x idles at 4700+Mhz ??
mobo is x570 taichi
anyone has a suggest settings for an manual OC of 4000Mhz?
fluid bloom
@rapid magnet are you sure it's not just one core being at that frequency with other cores being in low power state?
fluid bloom
considering discord uses electron I'm not surprised it might cause the CPU to run at 4.7 GHz ๐
broken sigil
.. why is my 5950x idles at 4700+Mhz ??
in my case (i9 9900k) it has to do with this setting, with ultimate performance selected it idles at 4.7GHz as well
I can't tell if this is joke ๐
spark granite
@fluid bloom sometimes you're the only person who can say dang to your own game. It doesn't get done if you don't believe in it
fluid bloom
I may have misunderstood the meaning of dang ages ago now that I check the definition of it
spark granite
Hahahahahaha
fluid bloom
but anyway, I meant damn that looks good
spark granite
@fluid bloom well I would be honoured to be the first to 'dang' it once its done
normal prism
https://twitter.com/microdanilka/status/1356697036146569216
That's insane
cursive crypt
Like the name. Also, really good capture.
humble remnant
Serious issue
teal kindle
yo is it common that games fail to update in the launcher (ie hades is failing lul)
failing to unisntall as well.. wow dudes
ancient hornet
is the game still running in the background? files locked by the OS? something like that
teal kindle
got it to delete the shortcut on desktop with the delete request that got a fail return response, closed down rebooted and bam now the game is updated.. desktop icon still missing // run as admin, make files not read only, etc
watever just..... watever .. failfish
timid tundra
Submitting the same file update to the marketplace team for the fifth time in a row because of a missing comma in the uplugin file
cursive crypt
Damn... there is a bunch of cats banging in my garden. It's cacophony.
lethal current
Has any official info regarding the preview of ue5 been announced? They mentioned early 2021, so I would assume we should hear something soon.
tidal ivy
Epic almost never hit their own deadlines
damn, was really hard to find this because some idiot gave it a copyright strike in Germany:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHeLDF5qtyk&pbjreload=101
pearl elk
I did always wonder if Fortnite was purely coincidence or marketing genius
median wraith
Could be nice if epic can make the api pages a bit faster on load times, it takes to me almost it takes to VS without plug-ins to find the class
:/
Are the local generated docs?
fathom wadi
they should have a downloadable version. Remember the one they had for UDK?
I forget the name now. But it was made by a community person
I saw a competition from Jetbrain's Rider yesterday. It wanted people to install Rider with UE4, use it for a little, then if they choose you, you have to do a stream showing off it's features and you win a ยฃ100 license to Rider.
I thought to myself "F*** off and get some employees you cheap bastards". Talk about getting your customers to work for you.
pearl elk
I prefer Rider to VS myself
fathom wadi
I'd try it but I ain't going full EXPO for a company to get a free copy :p
What would be cool is trolling them with it. Get to the streaming stage, then open Rider, and say "Right let's get started" and goto google to look everything up.
Just spend an hour staring at the screen
pearl elk
why not just talk and wiggle your mouse around every now and then
fathom wadi
yeah and speak Esperanto
pearl elk
pretty sure that Rider for UE4 is still in Early Preview though, might be awhile until you get to use the license
fathom wadi
im not interested it myself. I use VS and Intelli-coughbullshitcough-sense
In fact, my intellisense is so slow, I learned not to rely on it. I have no VAX or anything. I just deep dive.
its a pretty masochistic way to code tbh but when you don't have throwaway money, these tools add up.
cursive crypt
It is not bad. Sometimes I also Vim for VS projects.
pearl elk
make great toilet paper when they update it ๐
I actually use dnGrep and Sublime for reading the Engine Sources. I found trying to use the same app for reading/writing gets confusing
Im gonna make an AI helper called tab digger, help you uncover buried tabs ๐
fathom wadi
@zinc matrix no this was an application.exe version. It was super famous in the scene but my memory on this is awful as it's been dumped for more relevant info (only got a 2tb brain)
pearl elk
Did I miss the party
pearl elk
hectic, I need a vacation ๐
fresh heath
fluid bloom
expanse's last episode of this season was great
fathom wadi
did someone change personality, betray the others and something happened that was a precursor to the next series perhaps?
fluid bloom
no, not really
fathom wadi
i may catch up on it then. It had too many cliches for me to retain my interest. It was ok tho.
fluid bloom
at which season/episode did you stop watching it?
I'm still waiting for the last book to be released...
pearl elk
I really liked Miller, the whole detective story thing is what got me into The Expanse
fathom wadi
@fluid bloom start of season 3 didn't gel with me. But I liked the first two seasons.
it co-incided with Star Trek Discovery for me and I found more that I liked in those series so put it aside for a while. Planned on picking it back up after a run of gangster/mafia related stuff because I need my fix.
Been keeping up with Sammy The Bull Gravano's videos on Youtube recently. Historically its the most interesting mafia related source that exists regarding the New York families
quick gulch
NOt sure the proper place for this, so: Lets say I ask a question and then a whole lot of other questions come by and it gets buried. What is the polite amount of time to wait before asking the question again?
fathom wadi
when you get back from doing more googling usually.
5 minutes wouldn't be unfair to ask
mossy nexus
Generally 1 hour between asking, it's in the rules
quick gulch
Awesome, thanks to both Ponkkis and MOA.d ! There's a lot to absorb. I don't want to rock any boats ๐
fathom wadi
new metal band name = Baphomet's necklump. Going on tour soon.
ah no thanks for me? jeez. ill come back in 5 minutes and see if you change your mind :p
quick gulch
Hey, thanks to you to! I totally missed yours.. although 5 minutes is just a tad off from an hour. ๐
fathom wadi
yeah im impatient for knowledge
quick gulch
lol
broken sigil
๐
pearl elk
Hey, thanks to you to! I totally missed yours.. although 5 minutes is just a tad...
You could try Answerhub too, some people will filter unanswered questions to see where they can help
fathom wadi
try hards
๐
it's nice when a community is intent on helping. I don't think I would have gotten half as far with Unreal as I have if not for the people who help, which is why I always try help in return. Pay it forward
broken sigil
(that repeating gif I posted is now annoying the crap out of me ๐ )
fathom wadi
im sure there used to be a way to remove seeing them
mossy nexus
Learning how to ask things is key, unfortunately some people constantly get that wrong
pearl elk
How do I ask things correctly?
fathom wadi
present a folded $20 bill with the question
broken sigil
Learning how to ask things is key, unfortunately some people constantly get that...
this^
If someone gets here and demands help they probably won't get it
Be nice about it and if there is someone who knows how to help you probably will
couldn't look at that gif anymore
mossy nexus
*couldn't look at that gif anymore*
ta
fathom wadi
i often wonder how police informants work these days. I mean, the word on the street is pretty quiet and everyone outside of crime is wearing a mask now. I bet some informants only take bitcoin too.
mossy nexus
i often wonder how police informants work these days. I mean, the word on the s...
Aye but the crims still carry bags with "Loot" written across it, right? ๐
Yes.
stiff crystal
that's actually quite clean looking graph
fathom wadi
@mossy nexus Nope. It's called "Surprise enterprise mechanics" according to EA's lawyers
broken sigil
not enough spaghetti, there is your problem ๐
pearl elk
my mums way better at spaghetti than me
tulip orbit
your mums better at a lot of things ๐
pearl elk
Dad, is that you?
fathom wadi
hah good joke, you don't even know your dad ๐
seriously tho... never let a good joke go to waste. Or coffee.
fathom wadi
"so what does that make us?"
"Absolutely nothing !"
pearl elk
feel like alien UFOs would come and destroy my code if I used that theme
broken sigil
feel like it would make any boring task 10x better instantly
proud pier
I saw this a few weeks ago, and wasn't going to say anything until I actually saw the money in the bank account. But yeah. Just received an Epic MegaGrant for my game.
deep glen
congrats Victor!
broken sigil
Congrats!
zealous hollow
Megagrats for the megagrant!
proud pier
Thanks ๐
median wraith
oh you got a Megagrant ?!
proud pier
And just in case someone was wondering. 1.5 years. I know others have gotten them anywhere from 1-3 months, and I have no clue what the average is for the wait... but I hope I'm on the "very high end" of the wait time.
So, hope your rolls are much better than mine ๐
median wraith
Congrats Lord Victor
broken sigil
maybe I get it one day too, applied like 3 years ago ๐
proud pier
maybe I get it one day too, applied like 3 years ago ๐
oof
median wraith
I applied 4 times over last 3 years
proud pier
I guess 1.5 years in that respect isn't that bad...
proud pier
Well, my very first reply was... "DENIED"
mossy nexus
cuz they need moar
hmm?
proud pier
But I applied again after some polish was done
median wraith
hmm?
yeah they wanted to see more content or so
so maybe after I release it or so
I don't know if that makes sense ?
robust gulch
proud pier
so maybe after I release it or so
Just keep on updating them.
I don't know if they do post-launch grants anyway.
But, a good question to ask
proud pier
for what?
median wraith
I'm a reference in my country as you see
๐
@proud pier my domains cloudflare reports
and yeah me bad because I didn't had a decent video so isn't a Epics problem but mine
proud pier
Oh, I never check that, maybe I should
I guess I'm curious now
No clue where that's at on Cloudflare
median wraith
I have no clue how I even get that visits tbh
proud pier
I'm actually now curious though... lots of French
fathom wadi
Canada, the old new France you mean :p
fresh heath
Back in the USSR
pearl elk
silent glade
what are your opinions about a in-game manual vs. a pdf or epub
unborn lotus
I think the best way is seamlessly use in-game explanations through player progression instead of any type of manuals
silent glade
nah i just like manuals too much to abandon them
flint pier
In-game manual would be preferred imo. But why not have both in-game and a pdf?
granite pumice
Morning
silk lily
I saw this a few weeks ago, and wasn't going to say anything until I actually sa...
what game are you working on
pearl elk
I keep thinking to myself Elon has enough money to shift the market like this on his own lol
Dogecoin value is probably shifting down as Elon buys his dinner each night ๐
ancient ingot
๐คฃ
olive raft
fallow finch
Hi guys
Steam have a rule if your game not free
You cant make micro transaction in it
Is that right guys ?
dense storm
Never heard of that before
fallow finch
Well i heard that one time but i forgot where and when steam allows just free game to make micro transactions
Maybe its wrong info
median wraith
I have no idea what I'm doing
ancient ingot
what is that ?
median wraith
idk
๐ง
I'm recording the dev process so after it can pretend to be decent dev
I like the part when I play simple things but turns nightmares
ancient ingot
๐คฃ it looks cool though
mossy nexus
I've been experimenting with audio recently. To my amusement I discovered I could do this with my voice: https://youtu.be/Q--xq1CUjZI
median wraith
first world issues at drag drop
the whole bp is taken in order to calculate the origin
mossy nexus
scene root FTW
silent glade
In-game manual would be preferred imo. But why not have both in-game and a pdf?
i was thinking about doing a document inside the game, like accessing with a computer but doing a document apart from the game open so many possibilities for comments and pictures.
one thing that can bother is a spoiler-like feel that documenting all the game mechanics and characteristics and tastes and behaviors of the game creatures
north dragon
well I need that for Rider lol
You can try out Power Mode II plugin for Rider if you want to spice things up ๐
https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/8251-power-mode-ii
median wraith
does someone have the link or remember the name of the video from Epic using Spheremasks ?
north dragon
I saw a competition from Jetbrain's Rider yesterday. It wanted people to instal...
Where have you seen this nonsense? O_O
JB is not having anything like that.
What we actually do right now is running UX sessions:
- Looking for people with UE4 experience, but who have never tried JB Rider before;
- We run a 1 hour long session where we have a video call to watch peoples live reaction to Rider + do some basic stuff like edit code, navigate around and share their experience with us.
As a reward for that we give out either all product license or Amazon gift card, you choose what you want.
All of it under GDPR, not showing this video anywhere, not storing any personal data, for our own production to find where people are looking at and how they are trying to find things that they want to do in IDE.
zinc matrix
@zinc matrix their ipo filing has detailed breakdown of their revenues
median wraith
is awesome to work with the right click broken
dense storm
I saw a competition from Jetbrain's Rider yesterday. It wanted people to instal...
i would honestly recommend you read what battle toad wrote, also actually read the post. it is a survey not a competition. Read the post properly before bashing/making false claims https://twitter.com/jetbrains/status/1355103531028635651
humble remnant
Big gamers, I'm looking for games that utilise no more than 16 buttons (including 4 for WASD and 4 for mouse movement)
Context is, I revived my PSP and I'm looking for something to play remotely on it
That's an idea but not exactly long lasting
Something like Minecraft can work since it can be played if you ignore some key binds (like F-keys and sprint)
humble remnant
I want to do a study on how complex games can be with a limited amount of controls
Essentially, it's the closest I can do to handicap myself and see how far I can get
Side note
For The King and Metro Last Light Redux free on Epic store rn
Yeah, it was free like a month ago on GOG 
But I have a disgusting problem that keyboard input freezes and I have 0 idea why
I'll download the Epic version and see if anything improves
Might end up playing on my server instead
Also I'm p sure they added Metro like last 2 days or so
When I checked, only FTK was gonna be free
And suddenly there's Metro too
Yeah, same
humble remnant
Weird as hell
Through the Epic store version, Metro doesn't get this keyboard freeze
proud pier
I saw a competition from Jetbrain's Rider yesterday. It wanted people to instal...
Way too cheap of a prize
proud pier
i would honestly recommend you read what battle toad wrote, also actually read t...
Yeah this makes a little more sense kinda
I mean, IMHO, still a little too cheap, but at least everyone gets it. It's not bad in the end, depending on how many do it, they could spend a lot. But also, don't know how long the Google Meet sessions are. So in the end, it could be worth it for many. Personally, I would have loved to have seen lifetime sub on Rider for UE4 at the very least. It makes the most sense, especially doing all that for them.
soft night
want to do rowing game? https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1356994616122302466?s=20
proud pier
Unless sub is for life ๐
cursive crypt
I guess it is about not to freeze, but... is it extraordinary in some way? Like, people in boats do use muscle power sometimes for such stuff.
dusky shuttle
Do my youtube subscribers know what videos I'm watching?
steady sorrel
I don't think so...
steady sorrel
Do my youtube subscribers know what videos I'm watching?
Why ask?
dusky shuttle
Because I obviously don't want that to happen
I see a note under some videos saying "X person also watches this channel"
steady sorrel
Hmm...
dusky shuttle
I'm not even subscribed to person X, i just see his videos regularly
steady sorrel
Does it say X channel viewers also watch this channel?
Yes
That's what I'm asking
But u explained correctly
I was going like so slow
It's a matter of privacy so it shouldn't be like that
brave karma
Not necessarily, but depending on your privacy settings they could see what you have liked/shared and so on
dusky shuttle
Does it say X channel viewers also watch this channel?
Pretty sure it said X also watches this channel. I tried to reproduce it but not sure how
.also thanks
steady sorrel
As far as I think, it would show this only.
brave karma
This is what people can see unless you check them as private
You can find it in the settings on your youtube account.
brave karma
You have a playlist that consists of your liked videos, so technically they can see what you've liked.
steady sorrel
Yes that can be the case...
But isn't it a breach of privacy?
I don't think it's good to have that option
brave karma
Well, that's why you have the option to turn it off
brave karma
Turn it to private is what I mean ๐
steady sorrel
broken sigil
You can try out Power Mode II plugin for Rider if you want to spice things up ๐...
That's amazing haha
dusky shuttle
my paranoia probably kicked in and clouded my reading comprehension
median wraith
I'm that pro creating "music" that the metronome sound annoys me
north dragon
I mean, IMHO, still a little too cheap, but at least everyone gets it. It's not ...
As I've said it's 1h long - 45 minutes of "please, try to find {feature Name} in Rider}" and 15 minutes of "what did you like or not?"
If 100 euro an hour for this job is cheap, I'm honestly dropping developing Rider this second and applying to your company
normal prism
I'll take 90 an hour!
proud pier
As I've said it's 1h long - 45 minutes of "please, try to find {feature Name} in...
As I've said, it depended. There is very little upfront information. So this is why people are speculating ๐
Anyway, $100/hr one-time thing that affects a product, is different than $100/hr contract gig (where you are working multiple hours).
It's not that it's a bad deal. For most it's fine. But there is a difference.
But it would have helped had there been more information upfront in the first place.
normal prism
They're just trying to make the product better with feedback and trying to compensate people for giving them their time.
I don't see the controversy at all...
carmine frigate
i tried rider for a few hours but went bac to VS
normal prism
If anything, this should be applauded
broken sigil
If anything, this should be applauded
yeah have to agree with that ^
normal prism
Group huuuuuug
proud pier
I think it's awesome that they are looking for feedback from the community AND paying for it.
But two things happened here in discussion. One, there was some misinformation/not enough information presented.
Well, only one I guess ๐
The payment/reward thing, is just a matter of opinion.
broken sigil
i tried rider for a few hours but went bac to VS
I've been using VS+VA for a couple of years, tried Rider recently and now can't got back to VS
normal prism
Same ๐
pearl elk
Ive never been a fan of VS, its been getting better but as soon as I found a decent alternative in Rider I jumped ship ๐
proud pier
As I've said it's 1h long - 45 minutes of "please, try to find {feature Name} in...
What would have been a great one IMHO (depending on how many "finalist" you choose of course), would have been Lifetime sub for Rider for UE4, since that's what they are helping make even better for you all. In the end, Rider has a fantastic product, since they are gaining valuable feedback from people who are actually using it and the selectees will get a reward benefiting them as well for their time. (Yes everyone can argue back and forth, that it's a good deal regardless, but Rider will be making a lot more money from it then a few Rider lifetime subs)
carmine frigate
yea i went back for reasons that might not apply to you ๐
proud pier
Yeah, I mean, it's not going to be for everyone anyway
Some people are going to be set in their ways
carmine frigate
well, im also not usin VA ๐
cursive crypt
VS is like 10 years late with that 32/64 thingies. Looks they don't care to improve it enough. Maybe that's why VCode and stuff appeared.
proud pier
Anyway, if anyone ever needs some honest, no frills opinions on something, ask me ๐
cursive crypt
I can ask my ex for honesty.
proud pier
VS is like 10 years late with that 32/64 thingies. Looks they don't care to impr...
I've only used VSCode a bit, it's definitely very nice with how lightweight it is
pearl elk
I can ask my ex for honesty.
if the were honest they wouldnt be my ex ๐
cursive crypt
I've only used VSCode a bit, it's definitely very nice with how lightweight it i...
I haven't used it so can't comment. For me to be honest, any IDE which has integrated sane debugger and VIM handling is good. Plus enough customization.
broken sigil
My only small complaint about Rider right now is the debugger
UObject name should be displayed at the top of the hierarchy without needing to navigate all the way down to Uobject base to see the object name (in variable inspection thing) but this is something I expect is gonna be fixed eventually
proud pier
I haven't tried it yet, but I actually wonder if I could even use Rider for console dev
cursive crypt
I think they will drop the support for UE in ReSharper when that UE specialized IDE comes out ๐ค
proud pier
Since, console debuggers are for VS atm
cursive crypt
Thing which I kinda dislike is that they have like 20 products. It is a mess.
proud pier
I thought that too at first. Especially because I don't always just do UE4 C++ ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
But I think someone mentioned you possibly could use it like regular Rider
cursive crypt
IDE for C, IDE for C#, IDE for Java, IDE for documentation, IDE for console apps, IDE for UE, Plugin for that, plugin for something else.
carmine frigate
owyea i think that was one reason i dropped it, something somethign package deal
cursive crypt
Rent 3 in 1 ! Bundle for text users. Christmas bundle ๐
broken sigil
Pretty sure rider for unreal when it's fully released won't be just for unreal
Seems like it's general C++ support, current preview version is fully capable of creating and working on non-ue4 C++ applications
pearl elk
I think its just a simplicity thing, so you dont have to dig through the huge support list like you do in VS to find Unreal
that said I was trying to use Kite auto-complete and it wouldnt detect Rider for UE even though it supports Rider
cursive crypt
Pretty sure rider for unreal when it's fully released won't be just for unreal
S...
They have the general C++ as just Rider now, afaik.
proud pier
Pretty sure rider for unreal when it's fully released won't be just for unreal
S...
Yup, and that's very cool if so! I haven't tried it with non-UE4 stuff.
cursive crypt
Kite? ๐ค
pearl elk
seemed to work pretty well with sublime, I just dont write much code in that. Riders auto-complete is decent so its no biggy but I wanted to see how good kite got with abit of training
cursive crypt
It is auto-completer? If so, I use just clang for anything (except UE/VS ofc).
broken sigil
4GB? ๐
Have it sitting at like 15+GB with the project solution loaded
proud pier
I have 64GB of RAM, if it can fully use it to make stuff faster, I'm game
proud pier
4GB? ๐
Have it sitting at like 15+GB with the project solution loaded
Oh, so it can use a lot more ๐
VS with VAX is surprisingly light on my RAM usage
pearl elk
I thought 64GB would be enough but I found myself looking at another kit to bump to 128GB lol
broken sigil
I'm not complaining since it's super fast
It uses more memory than VS+VA but it's much faster to work with
cursive crypt
Too bad VS+R# is a hog
north dragon
My only small complaint about Rider right now is the debugger
UObject name shoul...
and you'll be surprised on how hard it is to implement in lldb over pdb >< it's like breaking whole lldb in half and patch gluing back (as I've been told)
median wraith
best part of Win10 is when the engine executable just don't even showcase
but you got a 100% use
pearl elk
thats the built in sandbox shafting you
cursive crypt
Chrome is like Virtual machine running.
... In fact, worse, because in VM you can do a job, but it just sits there over 2 pages and sucks all these resources.
broken sigil
and you'll be surprised on how hard it is to implement in lldb over pdb >< it's ...
oh damn, well that doesn't sound like fun ๐
humble remnant
Process explorer gang
Task manager doesn't show interrupts for the most part
Or well, some deep inner system usage
normal prism
Process explorer gang
I never knew that existed, neat!
humble remnant
It's such an OG program and I've loved it forever
Pretty sure it was a thing when I was playing UT2004
silver pawn
Is there an animation channel?
Or any tips and tricks, regarding animations, and or particles.
pearl elk
I remember the virii for Win XP which could stop you bringing up the task manager, infected DWM
silver pawn
O, my chat seems to be small. so it blocked it out, pardon me.
median wraith
spending the day searching assets in a project I got with different packs
its kinda absurd the engine freezes just to load cues
didn't even clicked the folder
pearl elk
Did you try turning it off and back on again?
pearl elk
Dont see why not
fresh heath
A web viewer for Unreal's material graphs would be nice
pearl elk
There are plenty of shader webviewers you can write code in to port to UE later
If you want to know what its gonna look like in UE4 you kinda got to boot it up ๐
median wraith
I made a lot of shaders for Godot when worked for a project
are in the company repository I think
fathom wadi
@dense storm I read the post. Thats why I said what I did because thats how I read it.
@north dragon thats how I read it. I went to the survey and it's the impression I got from it. All that fuss for a license felt like hard work.
dense storm
i mean its not a bad deal really, for $100 or a year all products licence, for an hour of your time for a UX survey
proud pier
i mean its not a bad deal really, for $100 or a year all products licence, for a...
It's not really. The $100 is worth more in my eyes. One year of products license is basically a trap. If you really like it and have actually used whatever for one year, you're now on the line to resub every year ๐ Of course, that's just how any software works these days anyway.
median wraith
that's 2 days of work here
proud pier
But again, no one should think of it like this is a paid gig at $100/hr. It's a completely different thing than your standard rate!
proud pier
that's 2 days of work here
You are probably severely undervaluing yourself then.
median wraith
Is how value me after all idk man
proud pier
Anyway, for reference, when I get paid for a one-time survey/consultation for only one-hour, it's 2-3x that amount.
median wraith
but is the common job here
fathom wadi
meh I could have jumped the gun a little on it but yeah. I dunno I was quite tired and had been awake a long time.
median wraith
Anyway, for reference, when I get paid for a one-time survey/consultation for on...
you have to teach me the black magic
proud pier
Again, not saying this isn't a terrible deal, just wanted people to know that it's not the best deal they could make, especially since they will be making a crapton of money off your input ๐
carmine frigate
Hevedy doesnt need coding assistance :p
median wraith
I need a small boost on how some things and deals are managed really
proud pier
If this were my product, I'd have done Lifetime Subs on Rider For UE4. I would rather have 10-20 people that are superfans, that will spread the word, than randoms just in it for the payday.
median wraith
is the harder part to reach people and people to work with/for
carmine frigate
nah u never do lifetime subs ๐
fathom wadi
you do, but you then send a hitman to end the contract early
carmine frigate
even maya lifetime subs get canceled ๐
median wraith
nah u never do lifetime subs ๐
I did back in the day the one year license for Substance but never did any other really
carmine frigate
ow to buy em is often a better deal
i keep my subscriptions too a bare minimum
100$ a month here and there makes for an expensive end of the year ๐
also i dont use a credit card, so often they wont even take my money ๐
fathom wadi
I dont use credit so I have no credit rating. Which is really awkward because people just presume you are in debt when you have no credit rating. But nope. I just live within my means and don't want to be paying 5 points on the vig from a banking cartel.
although it's more like 24 points APR which is biblically immoral ๐
carmine frigate
you kinda have to keep an eye on the account cuz its soo easy to fraud on those things
its soo easy kids can do it,,, and they do
it might just have a bad rep, but when i hear credit card. i think fraud and debt
fresh heath
stoic turtle
Do you guys have any suggestion for a mouse
fathom wadi
roccat kone EMP pro if you have large hands. It's been a great mouse for me.
fathom wadi
yeah I dont do wireless mice personally
fathom wadi
this roccat has a nice fibre wire so its tough as nails and no heat transfer from movement
stoic turtle
Idk which logitech model to choose , mx master 3 has huge scrolling issues and Iโm not sure what else is good
my laptop is far not sure if wired would reach
I think my choice will be Logitech m720
dense storm
@umbral totem i have a 3950X with 64GB 3600 RAM, 4 NVMe drives and a RTX3080
quiet narwhal
3950x 128gb/3200 3080 and some random nvme drives
umbral totem
@dense storm Would you take the 3950x over a 5th gen?
quiet narwhal
I wouldnt but I didnt have that choice a year ago lol
umbral totem
haha aight
quiet narwhal
and can you even buy anything good right now lol
dense storm
if you can get a 5 series are hard to get
umbral totem
apparently not haha
umbral totem
do you really need the 64gb? and if so, for what? was under the impression 32gb should be fine
quiet narwhal
I seriously tried to build a new machine for the office and gave up since all I could get was intel
quiet narwhal
in "theory" when doing heavy workloads you want a gig per thread
so yeah 32gb for a 3950x is great
dense storm
i have 64, cause i am usually using around 40-45GB ram
quiet narwhal
but then you try an open up stupid projects or do stupid stuff and you go "I wonder how much 64gb costs"
umbral totem
any thoughts on pcie4? worth?
proud pier
You need 256GB RAM in 2021
dense storm
LOL
proud pier
Sometimes 1TB
quiet narwhal
I've got some normal nvme drives, didnt spend the money on pcie4 and have never found total speed to be a bottleneck
dense storm
no need for pcie4 nvme's
quiet narwhal
its more just waiting on the cpu to do stupid stuff
proud pier
Forget PCIE4... we are waiting for PCIE6 anyway
proud pier
Somehow 5 got skipped
umbral totem
5 was too slow
dense storm
:/
umbral totem
decided 6 was the move
quiet narwhal
Convert project to DX12.... thats a waiting. turn on ray tracing.... thats a waiting. enable es 3.1 shaders. . thats a waiting. none of em care about the drive beyond being an ssd lol
proud pier
umbral totem
just so i don't put my foot in my mouth - intel isn't worth much here, ya?
dense storm
heh
quiet narwhal
I will say I am currently working in engine and on some projects that are not using the shared data cache so I have to recompile ~8k shaders every time I open the project or update the engine. All I care bout now is finding more cores and threads lol
zinc matrix
umbral totem
going for the threading power with amd is the way to go, i've heard
dense storm
baby numbers @zinc matrix
quiet narwhal
intel is what it is, its just not as performant for the buck as amd
dense storm
๐
proud pier
Intel 30000, 256 Core with 10Ghz is the future. 2022
dense storm
wait
your UE is using 28gb..
do you have every asset loaded ?
let me see if i can top that
zinc matrix
Right now, yes, I need to due to the current milestone I'm working on
proud pier
Seriously though. Dont get anything this year. Overpriced. Low stock.
Get last year/Gen stuff on the cheap
dense storm
meh i topped out at 22GB, gg
zinc matrix
I had 55 yesterday
dense storm
i have had my system use 64GB
zinc matrix
Loading assets, mostly meshes
dense storm
yeah i loaded a lot of assets
proud pier
In other news. We are 100 seconds from Doomsdays
dense storm
and i had the game, unreal editor, visual studio and rider open
zinc matrix
oh!
dense storm
Doomsday party everyone?
proud pier
COVID didn't help matters
zinc matrix
My wife doesn't let me party ๐
dense storm
these nuke happy countries need to just chill and smoke weed.
or something.
oh damn, yeah.
ok. no weed, but chill at least
Nuclear war is not just a "lets defeat our enemies" it will also defeat them.
umbral totem
what's the base core/threads to shoot for, and what's a "nice to have" number?
umbral totem
alright cool
umbral totem
i'm seeing 5800x on ebay for 550
dense storm
but a big price jump
umbral totem
im guessing thats inflated - whats a standard ballpark
dense storm
5800X is about 500
quiet narwhal
well base for what tho? like browsing website with chrome needs atleast 12
dense storm
lol ๐
umbral totem
dw, not on chrome my friend
quiet narwhal
but yeah if you can get 8/12 you should be happy, 6/6 or 6/12 is fine, 4/8 feels bad nowadays
umbral totem
firefox is life now
dense storm
yeah never get a 4/8 or 8/8
quiet narwhal
I had a 2700x before the 3950x and I was content
umbral totem
its fine
dense storm
you want those threads just as much as core
quiet narwhal
yep so x700x is a good entry point then based on what you can find
I didnt think the x800x was worth the price bump
dense storm
but the 3900X/5900X is a briliant CPU for price/performance
if you can afford the hike a 3950X/5950X
quiet narwhal
yep the base line when you go up to the next set of cores seems worth it
when you compile the ue4 editor in like 12 minutes is when you realize the price was worth it lol
dense storm
yeah 12-14mins for me
quiet narwhal
and you can still use the machine at the same time lol
dense storm
depending on system load
quiet narwhal
like ugh trying to use a 4 core and compile the engine made me cry
dense storm
put it this way, the 2700X would compile work project in around 300 seconds
humble remnant
You go out to work, come back and it's done just on time
quiet narwhal
and for a point of reference if it matters, the new M1 macs are very comparable to a 2700x and they only have 8 cores
dense storm
my 3950 does it in 70 seconds
humble remnant
2700 is pretty decent even for a full engine compile
quiet narwhal
yep I want to say about 45m?
umbral totem
hah - try compiling on an i7 single core
dense storm
that is still respectable
umbral totem
i gave up on doing anything with source builds until I can re-spec
humble remnant
Uhhh i7 single core?
dense storm
i hear quite a lot of people in #engine-source saying its been building overnight ๐
humble remnant
How does that work?
quiet narwhal
yeah I was surprised the m1 was pretty much spot on for the compile times as my 2700x
umbral totem
How does that work?
lol it doesn't T_T
quiet narwhal
ugh... intel. lets put a 2 core CPU in a machine and call it an i7... wtf
dense storm
yeah 2010 or somehting iirc
humble remnant
It's about half the speed of a 2700 but considering it runs on half the RAM speed, damn nice
Cheap to get one these days too
quiet narwhal
I started ue4 with my i3 3rd gen so in a pinch anything works if you need it lol
umbral totem
same... but life sucks without a proper rig tbh
humble remnant
I member compiling on my laptop's i7
umbral totem
i've been using laptops for dev for the last five yars
humble remnant
But it was at least a real 4c/8t
dense storm
i have a dell server, rocking 2x E5-2670 cpu's, thing is fine for me
humble remnant
Mine's a frankenstein
It started as a Supermicro but I swapped the mobo for an HP z400
Half the RAM sticks are aliexpress
There's makeshift work to even connect front USB and power buttons
dense storm
i use it mainly for perforce, dedicated server testing etc
at home
runs Arch Linux
humble remnant
Yeah, mine's about that too, except it's also a sort of backup PC
spare glade
humble remnant
It came with a Win 10 Pro key and I've used it for that
dense storm
i had an R610 (1U unit)