its 2am
#lounge
fathom wadi
I once farted in c++ and compiled some dirty code.
pearl elk
I once farted out more UE knowledge than some people dribble in their life ๐
fathom wadi
hey. It's not nice to talk about udemy courses like that.
pearl elk
coming up on 20yrs
fathom wadi
runs away
pearl elk
thats just Unreal too, not including going back to my youth
fathom wadi
back when people coded on an Abacus?
pearl elk
back when images didnt even load on the net
fathom wadi
I forgot everything about Pascal and Delphi. I never knew much of it in the first place tho
fathom wadi
thats pretty much aligns with my rate. 3 in 10 years but I have done bits of things for various projects
If I hadn't taken time to spend on my own projects here and there, I would have more but sometimes you got to do your own thing
pearl elk
Ive learnt quite a few different programming languages in that time, which isnt bad for someone who doesnt like to code. I only do it cuz I can never get programmers to understand what I mean, so I became one
fathom wadi
thats why I generalise. As a coder I have to understand other people's stuff to interface with it.
pearl elk
I enjoy gameplay programming but Ive got a natural instinct for system design
fathom wadi
I like telling people what to do and coming back after I've slacked and they have done it for me.
pearl elk
who ever those people are they are gems, pay them better ๐
I leave the room and its like WW3
fathom wadi
I pay them half what I get from the contract. Reselling freelance work isn't cheap you know :p
median wraith
I'm wrong or the individual components from a Blueprint aren't replicated on location and transform ?
pearl elk
come back and have to do my Patton impersionation to get everything back on track
fathom wadi
honestly I've never done that. I considered it in web development when the bottom fell out of the wages. But I wouldn't do it against my game dev name
pearl elk
but I guess if I worked at Rockstar we wouldnt have simulated horse testicles, so theres that
Abby does what... youre fired!
Id like to work on a bigger game though, itd be a cool experience but being a cog in a big machine man
this was an interesting one, I knew playerunknowns story of hitting it big but I didnt realise there was a programmer in the mix too
this guy had coding talent going back to his youth too, just proves youre not on anyone elses clock when it comes to success
flint pier
Man, The node TInterpTo is pretty neat!
fluid bloom
US presidential inauguration is cringy with the amount of payers and references to god they have
pearl elk
they wanted to be so different to England they changed everything except the religion ๐
soft night
MonsNation is in MonsOlympus mountain
stiff crystal
Even the US president mentioned Unity dozens of times
not even once was Unreal mentioned
mossy nexus
The mask catches the snot as it comes out their noses, uses static as the attractor.
pearl elk
its all good guys, disaster averted, I killed the spider
was fast too like one of those poison headcrabs
mossy nexus
But spiders kill flies. Flies are bad man.. bad.
mossy nexus
ha! well the jokes on it then.. I don't have any boots ๐
pearl elk
well if my PC didnt have filters it might have jumped in there ๐ฎ
then Id definitely have bugs
mossy nexus
Maybe it was an adrenaline junkie and wanted a go of the super fast roundabouts.
pearl elk
thats entirely a possibility, it was clocking atleast 40kmph across my floor
makes you wonder why Gordon Freeman doesnt use giant bug spray
mossy nexus
well.... that was awful. ๐
azure chasm
wouldnt it be cool if you could draw in blueprint graphs
like have arrows pointing , and explaining how stuff works
doodles!
median wraith
Banned from here
That's just for teachers
Windows have a feature isn't it?
You mean an actual layer over the nodes
Imagine to store 60kx60k textures on each BP just for that
median wraith
Svg
You end before adding non destructible objects
Arrows etc
Just store 3 index per each
Ala graph designers
cursive crypt
wouldnt it be cool if you could draw in blueprint graphs
There is a handy Blueprint Note node plug on the MP which I use and kinda like.
azure chasm
There is a handy Blueprint Note node plug on the MP which I use and kinda like.
this ?
cursive crypt
mhm
Author is kinda gone from the Questions tab tho. Regretfully it does not work for Materials :/
remote brook
Anyone wanna make me a logo for my upcoming marketplace asset? Don't really feel like posting in #volunteer-projects at the moment, so thought I'd ask here real quick. I got a simple concept in mind, but my art is lacking. Universal Monster will be the name of the asset, so I was going with UM for the logo and the letters are monsters, with one eating the other. Be amazed by my art skills!
How much you pay for that piece?
It needs a frame
pearl compass
cursive crypt
dh is that? Looks like angry cat.
median wraith
It's like metro 2033 gore vore versiรณn with spikes
How cool is the people that follows you to promote their game
Oh look a dev let's follow he with our random game genre
We will give you 3 days for follow back or we will unfollow you
foggy path
pretty common weird thing in twitter, it's just a shitty marketing tactic :P
probably bought from some shitty social media marketing company
tulip nova
stretches
median wraith
Look a wild Chance just spawned
tulip orbit
you have no Chance survive. All your base
median wraith
Is gold colored as is a foil character on rare cards just spawn once per month if you're lucky enough
cursive crypt
Antitrust: Commission fines Valve and five publishers of PC video games โฌ 7.8 million for โgeo-blockingโ practices
remote brook
GEO-BLOCKED! Muahahahaaa!
I really wanted a picture of the geo on blocks, but who steals tires from these?
pearl compass
remote brook
Looks about right, you know he wouldn't have used a blue crayon.
mossy nexus
Fake! If he had wrote it it would be with a Sharpie! ๐
split ermine
is youtube down?
loud plover
Here's an idea of a game.. "You are a developer who design a cheat engine, but pirates and other gaming companies dislike you." Its like a Tycoon game. And cheat fail safe should be creative if anyone pirate it IRL.
shrugs
real palm
Yeah cause Joe Biden sure doesnt have issues talking properly either...
at least when he manages a sentence it usually doesn't involve having people "stand by" and "fight like hell"
So he does have that going for him
spare glade
So you would prefer someone who is in actual cognitive decline than someone who speaks passionately for what they believe to be right as president... makes sense.
Im not American, im just pointing out what i see.
In all truth of the matter, there are major faults on both sides.
Neither of which should be ignored
Which is my point, you can find anything on either of them that make both of them look terrible.
Which to me says more to how bad the state of affairs is in the US than anything else.
real palm
not to get political but "both sides" seems to be deliberate spin from the right to stir apathy towards the entire process. Everyone is bad, just vote your default option.
Which I'll drop there instead of carrying it directly into another touchy subject
But in so far as Trump is merely somebody who speaks his mind with passion (heh), yes I prefer the next most viable candidate
rotund tundra
there is an option?
real palm
I didn't vote for Biden in my states primary... so
rotund tundra
that's the only option
real palm
What should I do, vote for a third party in FPTP?
Especially not this past election
So yes I prefer the one in active cognitive decline, may we 25th his geriatric self when the time comes
real palm
there is an option?
so, default option should have been written as default letter or default side or whatever...
eg, don't think, check R
That's what "both sides are bad" does
rotund tundra
i'm not that familiar with your political and voting system, but i see it's the same shit only slightly different packaging then we have over here
a game of guess the lesser of evils
real palm
Yeah, that's pretty much it
it's usually pretty easy, mostly because now we have recent evidence that GOP will protect their own regardless, and will be massive bald faced hypocrites
Remains to be seen if we'll have a period for the "country to heal" from the Dems
rotund tundra
not really but you can take me for one if you are an american
i'm starting to see that there is no choice, other that not voting
JJ marshal twitto always comes out on top
if there was any real meaning or purpose behind it yeah
there should be a option where people can vote for the 'none of the above' option
i can't in good conscience put my name under an option i know is bad
at one point we had pirates but idk what they were about
doesnt matter what party gets elected, there's always one guy at the center of it
i mean the same guy.. in our case
anyone care to explain why not voting is the worst choice ?
lusty portal
I know this is nothing to do with UE4 but I thought I'd ask you guys anyways lol. I have friends that must own the crappiest microphones in the world and they are destroying my ears and sanity when I talk to them. Mainly it's a high pitch squeal on a few of their mics that occurs when they talk. I was wondering if there is any sort of software out there that can run and filter out that high pitch squeal before it reaches my headphones and eardrums. ๐คฃ I drew a picture with my master art skills to demonstrate. ๐ https://i.gyazo.com/e45c101cedc273faf631289405a68cf3.png
rotund tundra
you can filter it with the new audio engine in ue4
tulip orbit
or just mute them
rotund tundra
this 1bit palette of black and white is not my cut of tea
lusty portal
It's only a few friends that have the issue. It's not their voice, they are in there mid 20's. It's the high pitch squeal that comes through their mic
You know that high pitch sound you hear when your ear rings? The sound that plays on games and movies when a flashbang grenade goes off. That's the sound.
They have deep voices dude. You trolling? It's their mic. I was hoping there was software like Audacity that could filter out that noise while still keeping the persons voice, only it would do it live
Lol I know that's the issue. But I can't do anything about it on my end.
I believe what I'm looking for is software that can use a low pass filter in real time
real palm
@lusty portal voicemeeter banana might work
there isn't a button for it, but you can try to catch that in the eq
lusty portal
I have voicemeeter banana. I'll look around and see if it there is something I can do with it
real palm
funnily enough there is a mode on there which does filter out specifically voices
opposite of your request
anyway, you probably need virtual audio cable
lusty portal
I have that as well hahahaha
lusty portal
Lol true! I'll play around with it when I talk to my friends again and see if i can get rid of that noise.
Thanks ๐
dim ruin
Forum replies are the best when they start with "first off, I'm drunk" lol
terse hedge
Hello!
cursive crypt
There is a frozen bug on my window since yesterday.
Little fella seems to choose a place to die on.
vocal pine
@terse hedge I just wanted to say I appreciate that your discord handle ends in #1995
foggy path
fluid bloom
๐
normal prism
I was just about to post it ๐
pearl elk
Which to me says more to how bad the state of affairs is in the US than anything...
Seriously though, Trump didnt even respect the office he held enough to show up with the other ex-Presidents. Carter only didnt show up cuz he's old as hell and its a hell of a risk. The only one who has an issue with bipartisanship is Trump which shows he didnt deserve to hold office, ever!
normal prism
Seriously though, Trump didnt even respect the office he held enough to show up ...
In a way, good thing he didn't show up
The less we have to see of him, the better
pearl elk
Oh Im not complaining but he never spoke for the US, only his part of it. Biden speaks for everyone, just like the other ex-Presidents doesnt matter which side.
normal prism
Functional multiparty government wen
Actually, if orange man goes ahead and founds his "Patriot Party", and splits the GOP in doing so, ya'll might have a chance at the start of something better
pearl elk
people like to bring up the fact Lincoln was a Republican, thing is he ran on a Union ticket with a Democrat as VP. Mind you his VP became one of the worst Presidents but aye, bit hard to follow that act
bipartisan governments can get alot done, I mean last thing you want is a hostile senate so its better to play nice even if you disagree
normal prism
From what I've seen as a European though, bipartisanship is a pipedream in the US
pearl elk
yeah the US were never very good with their art of war
its not all about the guns if you can divide the people
Thats actually what happened in China which allowed the Japanese to invade
foggy path
I've seen something to that effect sometimes with US companies in particular
median wraith
turns out is light artist position but
for animation industry
so 2D tools usually or so
or no clue
uh
idk how are made in the film industry at all this kinds of things tbh other than fixed scenes then pasted on chromas
dim ruin
Man I wish I had access to UDN. I see references to so much good stuff on there
median wraith
references to what ?
dim ruin
advanced UE4 stuff that is hard to find elsewhere
looking through this blog, you see a lot of links to UDN stuff on great topics:
https://bebylon.dev/ue4guide/
pearl elk
We actually have laws to that affect here, companies dont have to put it in writing cuz its expected as a default
median wraith
well they have examples and all isn't it ?
pearl elk
chickenscratchnotes for the math soul
median wraith
just rich and cool kids can access that ๐คช
normal prism
We actually have laws to that affect here, companies dont have to put it in writ...
Virtue signaling ๐
broken sigil
yeah UDN is great, you can get replies from Epic directly and information that you won't find on answerhub or forums
median wraith
Blue Man have access is a cool kid
pearl elk
how do you get access is the question
dim ruin
I wish there was a monthly sub where you could just get access to it for like $20 a month or something cool lol
even read-only
broken sigil
We have access as a part of the project I'm working on, not sure how individuals would get it
deep glen
the problem with udn is that a lot of non-nda information never makes it out
foggy path
I wonder how much would it cost if you're just a hobbyist
since they don't have any pricing it's kinda hard to guess :P
normal prism
the problem with udn is that a lot of non-nda information never makes it out
Oh you're slapped with an NDA on entry?
median wraith
UDN access usually come with complete games source code, bet on it lol @foggy path
foggy path
Huh?
pearl elk
well I guess it helps people who have NDA projects they cant discuss elsewhere, must be difficult to get help if you cant even share the code lol
foggy path
Oh you mean full source to games from Epic?
dim ruin
sounds like a nice suggestion to make to Epic staff? ๐ lol It would have to be read-only access though for anyone not a "proper" UDN dev though. Otherwise it would get flooded with noob questions
deep glen
@normal prism more like console specific info, not general ue4 stuff
dim ruin
ah crap. NDA stuff. so in otherwords it'll never happen
๐ฆ
I'm jelly. The links I've seen to UDN stuff looks great
median wraith
Oh you mean full source to games from Epic?
yeah someone named it on public, when you're a serious dev getting access to UDN you get access to Epic and others companies resources for full source codes
foggy path
interesting
pearl elk
I suppose theres nothing stopping someone taking the useful info and packaging it in a shareable form
dim ruin
lawsuits would lol
dim ruin
I don't wanna get sued. I'm already broke lols
pearl elk
nah if its just about UE4 without any specifics it'd be fine
foggy path
Yeah if it's information you could figure out yourself by looking at it, it shouldn't really matter
broken sigil
yeah someone named it on public, when you're a serious dev getting access to UDN...
well I'm not sure if that's completely true, you have access to some information general public doesn't
I'm not sure how much I am allowed to say so I'm just gonna leave it at that
foggy path
As long as you don't copy stuff from UDN word for word
dim ruin
No worries man. I appreciate the insight anyway ๐
median wraith
yeah you don't have to say anything @broken sigil XD
I didn't was at
but someones posted it back in the days
I don't even know the status
but at least seems they changed the platform
pearl elk
maybe youve said too much by revealing the existence for the UDN
median wraith
from the links noops posted
pearl elk
Epic secret service will be knocking any moment
dim ruin
all I'm saying is, if you ever wanna hang out on team viewer and like, I dunno venmo some beer money while you browse UDN...
๐
median wraith
whats that 0lento ?
pearl elk
my objects are all rooted, Im a slave driver
pearl elk
normal prism
dim ruin
Alright, back at it. Night all
median wraith
Now I get ads on Instagram from ladies drinking from promoted cans that aren't even open, almost as fake as their bodies
๐คช
lets see if I can fix this somehow
pearl elk
click on it and press the del button
soft night
have you seen Dogma where he was? https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/obLtw6Zb-sFJl7vj70_PK-437V9Lg-5TPznjet6P9LI8j0xtkVO_GVlj6GOGiHCHYOkai5Z9vjLFQRXqgyVR3TqFUHNj4g
pearl elk
yup Ana de Armas is single again woop woop, I have a chance ๐
soft night
really someone commented like that?
median wraith
yeah
cursive crypt
tbh, price shouldn't matter whether you like it or not. Tho some reasoning is always welcome for any kind of feedback, lol.
median wraith
well
if you buy a simple game isn't the same it cost 1โฌ or up 5 or 60โฌ
is a simple game so the price is low as is low content
but is quality content
also
is this a joke ?
broken sigil
lol
fresh heath
normal prism
About time they get the recognition they deserve
pearl elk
module modules must follow module rules for module modules with content submodules
fathom wadi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJk37zs5VEY been calling this practice out for 10 years now. Main reason I left web dev was the SEO industry was becoming worse than deceptive and I can't do that.
fathom wadi
penguins are midget nuns.
zinc matrix
omg ue5 incoming in 2 weeks
fathom wadi
UE5 is already here. You missed it. We are on UE6 now.
fathom wadi
baked lighting looks better
zinc matrix
ive never understood why edges of rooms have shadows AO
i dont see shadows in edges of rooms in RL
does rt also make shadows in edges of rooms? oO
fathom wadi
it bounces so it had to go somewhere.
zinc matrix
ya but if there are 2 walls right next to each other there should be no shadows
fathom wadi
there should
broken sigil
i dont see shadows in edges of rooms in RL
Something is not right with your irl walls then, I would have that checked
mossy nexus
omg ue5 incoming in 2 weeks
Says who? hmmm!?! ๐
fathom wadi
Unreal Keith
pearl elk
Something is not right with your irl walls then, I would have that checked
they probably need to turn up the lightmap resolution ๐
broken sigil
lol
pearl elk
Two Weeks (tm)
pearl elk
because the monsters need a place to hide
zinc matrix
im done with u
soft night
we are in Penguin version of UE7
fathom wadi
if you look in most rooms they can cast two shadows that overlap in a corner. Often grading the shadow at the overlapping points. But it's all about the light. If there is no light, there is no shadow. If there is too much direct light, there is no shadow.
broken sigil
^
there is in real life too
Depends how the room is lit, if it's indirectly lit you will see slight shadows at the edges in places where the least amount of light reaches it
deep glen
Stipo, behave
median wraith
@zinc matrix because there is occlusion by smaller areas, still kinda absurd how is represented
and for some reason the engine adds more AO when there is light
maybe to get a less flat look
zinc matrix
no i mean why is there that in RL too
fathom wadi
I wish I knew more about that stuff.
median wraith
on this image the corners blacks are kinda okay
@zinc matrix why cars have a grey area corner in the bottom ?
zinc matrix
show
median wraith
check it by yourself
zinc matrix
oh you mean the shadow ?
median wraith
its called penumbras
zinc matrix
because light cant go there easily
fathom wadi
Like America without a degree
median wraith
lol
pearl elk
what if the car is travelling at the speed of light with its headlights on
fathom wadi
where we're going, we don't need pants.
zinc matrix
we only need ue5 on 60fps on "epic" settings. on 2070 super
finite lark
what if the car is travelling at the speed of light with its headlights on
we need to handle this in our plugin
fathom wadi
A car can't travel the speed of light though. Restrictors and current technology prevent it.
finite lark
everything is relative Marc
pearl elk
Elon Musk will remember that
zinc matrix
@pearl elk he is useless
tell me why he is not useless
dont just say because moon.
be precise
others can also answer
broken sigil
In theory things can travel faster than the speed of light by compressing and expanding space, aka warp drive ๐
pearl elk
I think Id prefer not to travel faster than the speed of light, if I get a choice
broken sigil
I think Id prefer not to travel faster than the speed of light, if I get a choic...
wouldn't argue with that one
broken sigil
Jesus my eyes
median wraith
That she said
pearl elk
I feel illuminated
ancient ingot
@median wraith trying to blind us?
fathom wadi
I feel illuminated
join the freemasons?
pearl elk
join the freemasons?
fathom wadi
The path to illumination is beset by the duality presented as you travel.
pearl elk
thats some weird lookin chessboard
fathom wadi
if you say that as you enter the lodge. They look at you like you just farted.
median wraith
now is better @broken sigil @ancient ingot
faking hell
Total realistic non faked colors
broken sigil
I'm sick, have a cold and that bright image is making me sneeze lol
median wraith
XDDDD
fathom wadi
When I quit game dev for good, right before I close the door on my way out, I will turn around and solemnly state "I faked all my GI".
cursive crypt
This little maneuver...
ancient hornet
2017 or 2019?
median wraith
Can't set a fixed tick rate to the engine physics, feels bad man
cursive crypt
19
I just killed the process tree, after 2 minutes. Hanging in some weird places, like _iswdigit or something. Screw ucs16
upper radish
foggy path
I think MudRunner and Enter the Gungeon are the only freebies I've installed and played so far
We tried to play KF2 and Escapists 2 with some friends when they became free, but the online functionality was completely broken at the time :P
Yeah, there's a couple good ones but haven't played
I know Observer is great and the Batman games
Cities Skylines I already have on Steam :D
Kingdom is also quite fun, have it on Steam
cursive crypt
Enter the Gungeon? ๐ค Liked it.
remote brook
The monsters have come out from the shadows. My new logo concept for Universal Monster. Think it is bad to just use a monster font I found online? Haha.
I will hopefully be releasing it this weekend. I am working on documentation and tutorials today. I wanted to have ranged AI also setup, but too lazy to finish it for the release, heh. Will still be an update to it in the future though. Got way too sidetracked making formations, hehe.
cursive crypt
I dunno man, logo is good as good it fits the product. However there are some design stuff which is always applicable.
remote brook
The product is to animate literally any monster and also give it basic AI (more complex as I update it). So I thought letters with a ton of monsters was fitting, heh.
cursive crypt
Its okay, you can adjust later too ๐
cursive crypt
I will make a game and sell it for 16 millions too
Step One: Make a game.
remote brook
Yep, for sure. I'm probably violating something anyways using a font from the internet. I just pulled the images off image searches, haha.
cursive crypt
Just check its license lol
pearl elk
I pressed the make game button but it isnt working prz halp
fathom wadi
@median wraith if you can make a game that sways towards Team 17's business model, there's no reason you can't do the same thing. One of the great things about T17 is under Debbie Bestwick's leadership, they have created a sustainable and successful model that can be hooked into by any developer. Just got to study that model specifically and want to do it.
fresh heath
remote brook
I pressed the make game button but it isnt working prz halp
Did you purchase the make game plugin?
pearl elk
kids these days, just cant make CPUs
fathom wadi
you could say they missed the bus on that one
pearl elk
its cuz the bus was automated and using Apple maps
but I did make a really cool tiktok of me dancing with a LTT CPU pillow
cursive crypt
oh, you are a cpu influencer? Will give you free keys to promote my game
pearl elk
no one uses keys anymore, its all about those blockchainzz baby, look at dat bling mang
cursive crypt
Blockchaining CPU instructions. So everyone knows what you executed.
pearl elk
new Intel cpu's gonna have argb per pin and theyre gonna spin and have a diamond trim
gonna be so gangster
median wraith
Step One: Make a game.
how dare you sir
median wraith
play with me
ancient hornet
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16438/new-intel-ceo-making-waves-rehiring-retired...
article title is very wrong
if you read, the people that were "rehired" were actually in talk with Intel to go back there and decided to accept when they learned about the new CEO
who seemingly didn't even take office yet anyway
carmine frigate
we need some old CPU tech to beat AMD ๐
sounds like that movie, space cowboys
pearl elk
those old guys ended up saving everyone in that movie though aye
I heard Intel have an ARM license
carmine frigate
thats not super expensive or hard to get right?
pearl elk
well if they can produce an ARM product that is better than Apples
cursive crypt
Arm vs Apple
pearl elk
maybe AMD dont matter ๐
carmine frigate
than apple wil still not buy it ๐
cursive crypt
I prefer pears btw.
fresh heath
Intel used to have their own Arm implementation XScale, until they sold it to Marvell
pearl elk
Apple dont need to buy it though, MS is apparently moving to ARM too
all Intel need to do is stay relevant
doesnt matter how good TSMCs process is if no one is buying x86 laptops ๐
cursive crypt
Would be nice to see more than two players on the PC market.
foggy path
Nvidia probably could if they wanted
but if ARM gets adapted more then might also see some others
cursive crypt
I dunno, I don't want to update my CPU drivers each other day.
carmine frigate
yea intel gets an ARM licence and nvidia just gets ARM
pearl elk
there will be rules on what Nvidia will be able to do with the licensing though, thats why theres an investigation because they dont want a monopoly situation
carmine frigate
well its a bit late for that ๐
pearl elk
remember when Google owned Motorola? That went no where because it couldnt without getting them in trouble
pearl elk
Im sure they still have alot of patents in the chip space
fresh heath
They divested their chip division to Freescale
pearl elk
but thats why ARM kinda took off cuz it was new ground, those big patent holders couldnt strong arm people
Im guessing Nvidias play is to try to make their tech as compatible with ARM as possible so they can score some of these big vendors in the server space
terse hedge
<@!753290872535384236> I just wanted to say I appreciate that your discord handl...
No more
pearl elk
didnt Amazon make an ARM server chip?
fresh heath
didnt Amazon make an ARM server chip?
Yeah, the Graviton
pearl elk
Id love an RTXBox tbh hehe
MS can do the CPU, Nvidia GPU, oh baby
taste the rays bro
Apple is all like, well we might as well make your headset for you
throw in some Valve knuckles and you got yourself a VR utopia
expectations vs reality
https://blog.scienceandmediamuseum.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/1-Holmes-type-stereoscope.jpg
drifting quest
hit there
carmine frigate
i still think vermin supreme deserves a shot ๐
a pony driven econemy doesnt sound that bad
fresh heath
carmine frigate
damn i want that button
cursive crypt
Me too ๐ฎ
carmine frigate
Well Trump did say he was all about creating jobs
also im not sure summon is the word here
cursive crypt
chicken-jutsu
remote brook
Without using blood? Summoning master!
fathom wadi
would watch that. I reckon he could pull it off.
pearl compass
plucky mulch
Is hitman worth the price tag?
proud pier
Is hitman worth the price tag?
Is any game worth it if Epic will buy it out and give it away for free one day? 
But honestly, a game is only worth it if you decide it is.
timber viper
Doom 2020?
median wraith
Is any game worth it if Epic will buy it out and give it away for free one day? ...
How dare you sir
unreal cedar
id Tech 7 is a thing? ๐
doom eternal is quite the technical marvel
proud pier
We talking game engine vs home brew engine dev?
worthy oasis
iirc they just increment it for any game they develop with it on their own since they overhaul the engine for it.
worthy oasis
vulkan ftw
dense storm
Rewritten jobs-system to use all available CPU-cores more efficiently[12]```@dense storm errrr Id tech 4 was Doom 3, Id Tech 5 was Rage, Id Tech 6 was the Modern Doom, so I think could be a thing if the last second Doom uses Id Tech 7 the last last
proud pier
Honestly surprised iDtech (7) isn't available for everyone
dense storm
shame it was short and bit crappy on gameplay elements
worthy oasis
idtech is imo always such a great engine. Would love to get my hands on idtech 7
unreal cedar
too bad they stopped GPL-ing new versions after bethesda bought them
proud pier
Also, wtf ever happened to cryengine. Been awhile since it has been in the news.
unreal cedar
it exists
i think that's the best that can be said about it
same with lumberyard lol
proud pier
The best isn't lumberjack?
worthy oasis
cryengine get always only get used on some edgy titles
proud pier
I mean lumberyard.๐
unreal cedar
aside from amazon themselves and CIG I don't know of anyone that uses it...
dusky shuttle
worthy oasis
lumberyard is based on cryengine 3 while crytek released cryengine 5 with some very huge updates
unreal cedar
re cryengine it certainly doesn't help that crytech has had financial difficulties for a while afaik
timber viper
I found cryengine weird, its AI system used with xml or something similiar
median wraith
@dense storm so its seems like Id Tech 7 is basically Doom Eternal
median wraith
Improvements in comparison to id Tech 6
1 million fewer lines of code mostly due to the removal of the OpenGL render-engine[8]
Unified HDR lighting and shadowing[8]
Full HDR-support on PS4, PS4 PRO, XB1S, XB1X and PC[9][10]
Multi PBR material compositing, blending, and painting[8]
Increased texture fidelity and geometric detail due to removal of MegaTexture pipeline, used since id Tech 4[11][8]
Enhanced global illumination quality[8]
Majorly improved particle system as more particles are running on the GPU, which allows for bigger explosions, more atmospheric volumetrics and more vibrant particle effects[12]
The framerate limit has been upped to 1000 FPS. The frame limit was 250 FPS in id Tech 6[12]
Rewritten jobs-system to use all available CPU-cores more efficiently[12]
Improved post-processing effects, more detailed anti-aliasing and improved motion blur[12]
Support for gameplay areas twice the size of those in id Tech 6[11]
Improved image streaming[13]
Expanded decal system[13]
Improved LOD system[13]
New GPU triangle-, light- and occlusion-culling system to not render what isn't on-screen[13]
Dramatically improved compression[13]
Improved level loading times, also after death[13]
there will probably be others, id tech seems to be the go-to engine for bethesda now
worthy oasis
they can give it to me I will do a game with it.
unreal cedar
aside from BGS stuff
median wraith
Fun fact
unreal cedar
arkane used id tech for a few things iirc, I'd expect them to continue using it
dense storm
i wonder if they use double and not float for world stuff? ๐
for the precision for big maps
dusky shuttle
rip megatexture
median wraith
Id Tech were the first engine using megatexture tech made by them technically
Now is the first engine to remove it while the rest are adding it
worthy oasis
idtech for FPS is pretty common for zenimax games.
timber viper
Do you guys know any RTS engine other than SpringRTS?
median wraith
he means a template ready
unreal cedar
"genre" engines aren't really a thing anymore
timber viper
I dont want to do what Glass is doing to render 1k actors ๐
dense storm
did not specify that ๐
timber viper
I dont want to do what Glass is doing to render 1k actors ๐
Actually not about willing or not I cant
median wraith
yeah like FPS engine etc
timber viper
I found one and its pretty interesting but prorably never gonna touch it since its for individuals http://oxidegames.com/products/nitrous-2/
proud pier
So Spring Engine
proud pier
Used to be SprimgRTS, now just Spring
timber viper
Is PBR supported in Spring?
proud pier
unreal cedar
unless they rewrote their material system at some point
proud pier
Still gets updates
timber viper
Yeah, afaik something like 20 years old or at least 15
unreal cedar
it has a pretty decent community. I remember playing total annihilation style games a while back
they have a bunch of different games built on top of the engine and a shared lobby system iirc
median wraith
thats true
foggy path
the horror engine asset was in the free for the month assets at some point
only reason why I know it is a thing lol
median wraith
4 line traces just to check a single thing in parkour
๐ค why I did this
50 classes
noice
and the trace still wrong nice
there you go @zinc matrix
๐
still isn't working on the final step but no clue why and today will break from it
yeah this part kill me
I have nightmares
humble remnant
One way I went around the problem of swapping items is simply having the player controller swap it for themselves
So I keep the item array the same on the pawn/server side, it's simply what slot is being called on the server
Though I have to admit I have a much more limited item space
I see then
So one item can have multiple active/activatable effects I guess
Then yeah, it makes sense
UMG big bastard too when it comes to resolutions
median wraith
@zinc matrix you should use C++, thats why is better is cases like that
:p
dynamic sized inventory
I bought one time ago from the marketplace
diferent sized item slots
ala Tarkov
humble remnant
For the life of me I can't read others' code for some reason
So making my own has been preferred method even if it's less than optimal
It probs would've been better to use the integrated stuff but nah
Made my own abilities and projectiles 
median wraith
Man, i wanted to do today level design but took my whole day fix this and still isn't fixed, plus tomorrow have to redo 2 classes ๐
jesus
humble remnant
Yeah, that's true
broken sigil
Fun fact about BPs, every time you pass an array around it allocates a new and copies it, it gets slower depending on the size of the array
unreal cedar
That's not a BP thing, and it can be avoided. It's called using references.
unless there's some godawful copying going on in BP internals you can pretty easily avoid copying arrays by using references where warranted.
median wraith
Fun fact about BPs, every time you pass an array around it allocates a new and c...
Yeah it surprised me at first there is no references at all
median wraith
That's not a BP thing, and it can be avoided. It's called using references.
Don't work with arrays at all
I had a issue related with that at work
median wraith
Yeah good luck
That's nice until don't works properly
Actually there is a bug too related with structures made in BP
Using arrays
Someone with reference structures
In arrays
Good luck setting and getting by reference
I think you can't get by reference
Do you have the option to get by reference from inside the array some item?
I get always copy for some reason don't let me use Ref
No idea
Well is a inventory don't need to make anything on tick do you?
Then don't think you notice it at all
hasty cargo
neat
median wraith
Oh look the Twitter trends today
The jobs search app ๐คช
Anyway let's see if tomorrow can finish 2 classes and get the bug fixed ๐ค
Take care kids
rare sparrow
In blueprints I'm using an array of a structure which contains an array of transforms. Basically to make like a 2D array. I just had to make a by ref version of the For Each Loop since the standard one uses a get copy
like this bit is just to use a spline to fix some issue I had that'll slightly change the transforms, and it sets the values just fine
cursive crypt
By ref work just fine, as far I use it.
sage ermine
so any NEW news on UE5 yet?
sage ermine
<sigh> these people who tease everyone with cool looking stuff then don't deliver it for years...
humble remnant
Hasn't it been less than a year so far
sage ermine
That was self deprecating humour
humble remnant
Then it is time for me to sleep
quiet narwhal
"Unreal Engine 5 will be available in preview in early 2021, and in full release late in 2021," its still super early 2021, give it a few more months till early 2021
quiet narwhal
one thing to consider is ue4 was released at GDC and GDC is always a good time during the year for stuff like this
sage ermine
Actually we just watched all through the firefly episodes and I don't remember seeing that in there
Which episode was it again?
quiet narwhal
however this year.... we lost GDC until like july lol
sage ermine
Geepers, I hope you meant last year
quiet narwhal
last year we lost it completely
humble remnant
I don't expect this year to be any better
The world is fucked
And so is my sleep schedule
There's just no reason to wake up on time anymore and it's getting flipped for me
pearl elk
You'll all be delighted to know 2021 is the year of the Ox, have to wait till alittle into Feb though
We'd be screwed if it were year of the bat ๐ฎ
cursive crypt
0x what? Its cool prefix, but need more data.
cursive crypt
Me, trying to figure out UE's code.
pearl elk
I need to start using my brain again, everythings going down hill fast
cursive crypt
With age it becomes harder.
pearl elk
I just need to find harder problems to solve ๐
pearl elk
yeah its more about complacency I think, too easy to get lazy
cursive crypt
One old project still chases me occasionally. I was trying to figure out how to fix up rivers flowing on pre-made raster grid.
After 2-3 weeks, just gave up.
pearl elk
rivers always flow down hill
cursive crypt
haha, true.
But not the problem.
You have an existing heightmap with riverbeds, need to "correct" the heightmap noise so that river can flow naturally. They are also more or less known where are they +/- some pixels offset.
So... you need erosion, boundary checks, solver viability and etc.
pearl elk
so you want a velocity map based on the adjacency data of the heightmap, then you use velocity to determine erosion
water is a force of nature so skip the bounds checking, just let it flow ๐
cursive crypt
Well, its more like trying to fit up two rasters. One is the river masks, the other, the hmap. Also, yea, velocity, pressure, erosion rate, etc. Boundary check is a must, no new riverbeds, use theirs.
... that what I meant by "correcting", just the hmap is noisy.
pearl elk
smooth function
cursive crypt
Smooth what?
pearl elk
shift all the greys towards 50% slightly ๐
cursive crypt
It gonna erase the edges.
pearl elk
you need a more complex solution than what you can do in a material, youre going ot have to preprocess the data
cursive crypt
Lol, I'm not even talking about material. Pure algorithm/model. I was testing out in pure c++.
pearl elk
you need to store the original heightmap and blend it with the smoothed version based on the mask to preserve the edges
cursive crypt
Tbh, if I have put the same time for fixing up manually the stuff may as well be done the half of it. But nah...
pearl elk
but the depths arnt always going to coincide with your mask
cursive crypt
That hmap is just a basis, its a large scale feature for further work.
pearl elk
what you need to do is edge detection to preserve those pixels in the smoothing function and use a exponent
cursive crypt
Edge might be fine, but is not precise.
I mean I can do quite reliable edge detection manually.
pearl elk
in normal generation for instance there are 3 feature sizes which you can typically adjust, with river edges you will be looking for large features so large differences in adjacency between pixels
cursive crypt
Depends really on the water type. Some are smooth transitioning, others have carved canyons.
pearl elk
so you might be able to go all adjacent pixels within 15% of this pixels shade
if its over then its an edge case
๐
cursive crypt
I get you the idea, but its not the case at all. It must be pixel perfect as it is large scale feature each pixel. Say 30m or so.
cursive crypt
It's fine really. I can easily detail over.
pearl elk
I think doing it by hand using UE4.26s water system might be the go tbh
cursive crypt
Yep, that what I was thinking after 2-3 weeks trying to solve that. Mentioned up, if I was fixing that thing manually, might as well be done with. For the cost of eyes & my hand moving the mouse.
Also UE whatever system is not precise enough in that case. It is not a solver for such problems. If your source data has problems, so and the render/end result.
pearl elk
well I wouldnt use words like pixel perfect and precise when we are talking about 30m between data points lol
you'd miss half my house with a grid that size lol
cursive crypt
I would exactly for that reason. You can't just put bump a 1% in height randomly, lol.
I mean, its just a terrain, not about human-made stuff on it. Which eases the requirements.
pearl elk
its not randomly, you use adjacent pixels to determine the value of the current tested pixels. You use the original heightmap to generate a new map not shifting data in place
cursive crypt
Your source data is noise. You have a river, but its "edges" are lower than its level. Gotta fix that.
You can either bump the shore, or put down the bed for example.
pearl elk
slope doesnt have to be linear though, you can use a curve
cursive crypt
Slope of what? ๐ค
cursive crypt
Yeah, and? Not sure I get what you mean using a curve for the hmap.
pearl elk
you know levels in photoshop?
cursive crypt
In Gimp, is likely the same. You remap the gradient, but what is your point?
pearl elk
you use a curve to filter the pixels and generate a new heightmap
one which can get you closer to your intended target
cursive crypt
Filter based on what? Example?
pearl elk
on the original data
cursive crypt
I mean you have water across the whole gradient.
pearl elk
so what youre telling me is you have a height map of water not the river bed
cursive crypt
Yeap, look up ๐ water mask, which is not 100% exact, plus the hmap.
the hmap ofc, has their riverbeds.
pearl elk
so we can totally ignore water?
cursive crypt
The mask? I guess, yeah?
pearl elk
because you do the land then fill it with water
cursive crypt
Yeah, that's a line I walked to think for. But as I said, riverbeds are kinda noisy.
So you have ups, where it should be down. You have shores lower than beds and etc.
An approach would be to implement some river spring system, with sediment carrying, flow, pressure and etc. but it needs to be constrained as I said. Or your new rivers will go totally in different place ๐
pearl elk
well water will always travel to the lowest point, if you have the river bed you can generate flow, pressure etc
cursive crypt
The river beds are not perfect and are just some feature on the hmap. The river masks more or less tell you where to look at for it.
You wanted a mental challenge, there you go ๐ I really spend a lot of time trying different things, but implementing something reliable and full blown is likely near RnD zone for academia ๐ May as well publish a paper, lmao.
Takes time at least.
pearl elk
depends on how fast you want it to be
cursive crypt
No requirements. Can be an hour, lol
pearl elk
and how large your heightmap is
cursive crypt
16k+ ?
pearl elk
it has to atleast fit in memory or it has to be chunkified
cursive crypt
Nah, that pre-process step. Offline work.
Speed & memory are not the problem here. The algo/model is.
pearl elk
well a naive implementation sounds easy enough, for accuracy and timeliness adjacency search needs to be optimised
its not just 16k+ worth of pixels
cursive crypt
If you think it is "easy", shame on me then ๐
pearl elk
I didnt say that, I said a naive implementation, which means data processing could take more than an hour easy
single thread is not the best idea here
but theres some thread lock to consider with adjacency data
searcher threads and a single builder thread, chunkifying could cause issues on the seams
cursive crypt
Nah, really forget about the speed / memory / threads / gpu and etc. Not the issue.
pearl elk
well I already did the algorithm bit ๐
is there an example of the data sets I can use?
cursive crypt
haha... you think? If so, will share a chunk. Not sure you get the goal, but fine by me. Give me some minutes to cook it up.
pearl elk
yeah I probably dont get the goal at all
I think you want some sort of simulation for sedimentary deposits
but I make games ๐
cursive crypt
Yep, likely. And yep, latter too.
pearl elk
but it makes you wonder, if I dont understand your goal, how clearly defined is it?
maybe neither of us can achieve it if the goal posts keep moving
cursive crypt
Nope, it is defined and clear. Just maybe not apparent from the talk.
pearl elk
One old project still chases me occasionally. I was trying to figure out how to ...
Well this is the goal, fix up rivers flowing... Perhaps this needs elaboration
cursive crypt
Simple as make correct hmap + water mask, out of the input: noisy hmap, noisy wmask.
Physically correct. Pixel can't be lower than near water, or water does not flow up.
Don't carve new beds or change big the hmap.
pearl elk
sounds like you might just want to use a denoiser
physically correct from an inaccurate data set is an impossibility
if the noise is entirely accurate then makes me wonder, why fix it ๐
pearl elk
yeah theres no way to fix that sorry
cursive crypt
ops, maybe not ๐
pearl elk
you cant generate data from nothing, its either accurate or not
cursive crypt
If it was accurate we shouldn't be talking this for an hour?
If it was inaccurate, you shouldn't too? I mean that's what I said by manual fixing.
pearl elk
youre not going to fix it without getting out there and scanning it again
if you want accuracy
anything else is an approximation
cursive crypt
Nope, whatever you scan or obtain will always have a noise. Point is how to remove it from what is worth it? Here we talk about removing it from where the water is concerned.
pearl elk
I can denoise it, I cant make it accurate to data I dont have, it'll be a guesstimate at best
cursive crypt
Will repeat what is the goal, correct water. Land pixels vs water pixels, that all. Don't care about the rest. There is no any "guessing" to be made here.
pearl elk
if there are seperate pixels for land and water why are we talking
again, I cant generate accurate data from thin air
cursive crypt
Because, they are not 100% on the correct place, but say 95%?
Accurate is wrong word. Believable is better.
... anyway, I think we are just derailing at this point. Was interesting to remember and talk it over with somebody. It is not like that you can solve it, or I with some automation ๐คทโโ๏ธ
pearl elk
I honestly think you just need to try a denoise filter
its a typical thing, people make their problem out to seem unique and difficult which makes it totally unsolvable in their minds
cursive crypt
Denoise would not solve anything.
pearl elk
other people typically already have found solutions
I cannot talk further without seeing the data, theres something youre not conveying about the data sets accurately enough
cursive crypt
Okay will send you then the links, I just stopped, because thought you are not interested anymore ๐
pearl elk
there seems to be an issue with them, something which makes them not up to the task
which makes me think the issue is with faulty data not the algorithm or its complexity
cursive crypt
As I said, you have say pixel 1000x1001 water bit flipped on, but it should be actually on pixel 1000x1000 hmap. Example.
Also that 1000x1000 is a value higher than it should be. So, yep, noise, faulty data, close but not there. There is nothing better and won't be likely. No way to correct the source. Either manual fix or an algo. I chose an algo for 2-3 weeks, abandoned.
pearl elk
but this noise data isnt easily to pick apart from the actual features is it
is it all over a certain amount of error from the pixels around it
cursive crypt
Yeah. I mean if you look at it as a terrain you will right away figure out its wrong and how to correct it.
pearl elk
so you generate a new pixel based on the adjacent pixels, an approximation
if all of these noise pixels are above a threshold it lowers the search pattern considerably so you dont have to check every pixel
pearl elk
so there is a problem of the water mask not lining up with the height as well?
cursive crypt
Yep, just a little bit off.
Like few pixels or so at places.
If you make a bed out of it, you will just make an actual river + some weird shadow copy of it.
pearl elk
so ideally you want the water to clip through the land alittle
cursive crypt
Seems okay?
pearl elk
so maybe you could just use an edge shift to bring the water under the land abit to remove any holes
if theres any sort of displacement of the water mesh you want some extra verts there anyway
cursive crypt
"edge shift" sounds cool ๐
It involves a lot sub-problems I guess too, like where to end and what to move.
pearl elk
the edges of the water near the bank could use the height map as an intercept point with the world location of the water mesh
so you dont actually need to mask it, but the mask would be useful for flow
cursive crypt
Tbh, I wouldn't need to involve any kind of rendering tech at this point. If these two can match well, rest will come up.
pearl elk
are they meant to be different scales?
cursive crypt
Well... at least now, I feel good, giving you some food for thought. Most practical would be just to pay someone to move pixels around for an week and be done with it ๐
No, they are the same.
pearl elk
Well I hope they are from the same data set cuz water moves
a river here one year, its 5m over the next
cursive crypt
True that, but compared to the general "off" gonna live with that.
pearl elk
you gave me two different scale images, I cant see how they line up
cursive crypt
Well, I did some eye-cut, choose some point they match and start/cut the rest. The scale is the same, there might be some differences due to projection... but let me check again... remember that I said these are in general off few pixels and not matching. That being major problem.
It's really fine if you can't come up with something, that what I did too. Tried to find a solution, unable.
pearl elk
I think I can see what you mean, this might be enough land mass that the curve of the Earth is showing up on the image
bit hard to take a perfectly flat picture
cursive crypt
Yeah, but with some reprojection might be fixed good deal. As long as the pixels are fine. Anyway, I start to feel bothered by involving you with that nonsense project. Feel free to drop it ๐ It's just I had time and stubborn head, when I get back to it, I will just fix it manually I suppose.
pearl elk
well the coastal inlet bits are easy enough, thats all virtually the same plane. The rivers I would actually just do by hand tbh
cursive crypt
Tend to agree, its just that's a loooooot of pixels ๐
pearl elk
nah screw pixels, use the river tool
just paint em by hand in the editor on the terrain
cursive crypt
Yeah, that an option. I mean in any way, I would use some visualizer of that big/fat raster.
pearl elk
3dsmax actually has a blur option for displacement maps to smooth out noise
cursive crypt
I might get back to that project later. For now just chilling with some blueprints, so much easier.
pearl elk
where is this location exactly, it looks like flood plains almost
theres definitely potential for a lake to form here where all these rivers go
median wraith
@ioflow @quiet narwhal lets pray then because the 2014 GDC dated the 3ยฐ month of the year and the 2021 GDC is in the 7ยฐ month of the year ๐
But that's out of early year range as past the half
pearl elk
More time for taking bets on whether you'll complain about UE5s GI or not @median wraith ๐
cursive crypt
Hevedy against the Epic machine... Who will win? Watch the next Season of this TV show.
median wraith
Hey it don't count of someone shutdown my internet connection ๐๐ค
Not sure why don't have net on the desktop
cursive crypt
That was quite a short show as it seems...
median wraith
on PC now
pearl elk
Why would you want to release a game before UE5
If you want to be a cool edgy UE4 person you have to wait till after UE5 anyway to get those nostalgia goggles going
like screw UE5 man UE4 is so much better but UE3 wow, why arnt we still using that
thats why I make all my games with the original UE because nothing can touch it
its even got reflections, beat that RTX
foggy path
could just use the Jazz Jackrabbit engine
deep glen
ancient hornet
its even got reflections, beat that RTX
and it has portals out of the box!
deep glen
--
jovial talon
pearl elk
Why do we need to know someone edited their post anyway, like it was so much different first time around
tidal ivy
to be fair, that episode was probably the only good one in the entire season
probably because it was totally off the rails
zinc matrix
@deep glen ur very nice for deleting this without warning me ๐
cursive crypt
gush
deep glen
its not the kinda thing you should be posting imho
cursive crypt
found the difference!
Tell us, please ๐
ancient hornet
its/it's
cursive crypt
pff...
cursive crypt
Ha! I found a duck on the MP ๐ฆ
dim ruin
Now this is a cool idea!
https://www.etsy.com/ca/listing/931277565/gtepc-extreme?ref=landingpage_similar_listing_top-3
with a much better desk and pc but still, very cool idea.
tulip orbit
much harder to take it to LAN parties tho
pearl elk
just put wheels on it and roll it down a hill
cursive crypt
Upload on tiktok after
soft night
for the that pc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhWDPG8EROw on table
foggy path
I'd love to see a realistic approach to games like that^
It would probably be terrible
but it would still be an interesting experiment lol
foggy path
Agent 47 is basically The Pretender
if anyone remembers that TV show, which was pretty good
dense storm
just putting this out there, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE
foggy path
lol I've heard this
S.P.O.C.K makes the best trek themed music tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhU_Nq6Amr4
primal spoke
Anyone have a clue how many UE4 devs there are or where to find the count of UE4 engine downloads?
cursive crypt
Epic will know.
primal spoke
just putting this out there, <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE>
The top comment: This feels like a visual representation of having a stroke
dense storm
๐
primal spoke
Epic will know.
IK but I would like to know also.
cursive crypt
Ask them, buhaha
deep glen
they wont give detailed numbers hehe
primal spoke
they wont give detailed numbers hehe
I would imagine.
I'm just curious about how many UE4 devs there are.
100k...500k......1M?
dense storm
proper UE4 devs?
primal spoke
just people who have had to sign up and download the engine tbh.
dense storm
cause i would not trust downloads
pearl elk
There is only one true UE4 Dev, bow before me mortals
pearl elk
then you guys all go and use UE5, doh
primal spoke
yall think unity has more devs than UE?
dense storm
but what classifies developers and how do they know, like i said, Downloads does not mean anything
primal spoke
thats it thats the answer.
dense storm
if that is the data they are using
how many are active?
or just loaded the engine once out of curiosity
dense storm
depends where they got there metrics from
they normally use a number which makes things sound amazing
all companies do that
cursive crypt
There is nothing binary really.
What is a dev? Download? Run for 1h, 1d, or 1 week?
dense storm
^ my point
primal spoke
depends where they got there metrics from
probably analytics on our machines tbh,.
lots of data probably going back to epic everytime a user launches the engine and is connected to the internet.
cursive crypt
... you can also opt-out from these, afaik
primal spoke
Epic knows when their engine is being used probably most of the time.
cursive crypt
Well, I see mine failing regularly to connect to their servers ๐
primal spoke
there are offline devs, but if you are connected to the net then rest assured Epic is gathering analytics.
cursive crypt
Anyway, if that text says its 7.5 Mil, then its so. Now what?
primal spoke
Now I know that there are 7.5 million UE devs 2 years ago.
fresh heath
cursive crypt
that a dx normal?
median wraith
@primal spoke order the top 100 people with more messages sent at ue slackers, there you get the reply
๐คช
cursive crypt
Ok, just asking the important questions here.
median wraith
But cod is made with unity, how dare you sir
pearl elk
its not how many games you can make with Unity its how many developers ๐
you need what like 300 solo indie games to even come close to a single AAA lol
thats why Unity sticks out at events which are more catered towards indies though, AAAs send 2-3 devs for a huge project where indies send all their devs for their 300 mobile games
plus UE devs get free beer, whos winning now ๐
primal spoke
<@509381570310701086> order the top 100 people with more messages sent at ue sla...
I don't get it?
foggy path
UE devs are old enough to drink beer 
stiff crystal
pearl elk
it really is, see how realistic his skin looks?
cursive crypt
fantasy
pearl elk
Well I do think those chose the right company to make a Star Wars MMO
totally looking forward to Assassins Creed: Tatooine
fresh heath
It's a shame I missed Star Wars Galaxies
I've heard it was very interesting
A true sandbox MMO
Not a WoW clone
Not an Everquest clone
foggy path
Ultima Online clone
fresh heath
One of the main designers of Star Wars Galaxies has a blog with a lot of interesting information about its development: https://www.raphkoster.com/tag/star-wars-galaxies/
pearl elk
how many midichlorians can you fit in a Mandalorians baby Yoda?
fresh heath
Ultima Online clone
More of a spiritual sequel than a clone
pearl elk
Im happy as long as I get to slaughter Jawas
I always wondered what happened if Luke got to go to Toshi Station
but noooo bloody Jawas and their trade wagon
fresh heath
In UO we saw people kill each other in droves, because that simplistic social model effectively meant that social structures could stay pretty small. There werenโt longer chains of interdependence. Whereas in SWG, I wanted to make sure that people knew they were part of a society, and most features were centered around that. Not just because it was cool to experiment with human behavior, or โant farmingโ as some designers call it, but because that sense of โI might bump into, or need this person again somedayโ actually drives better behavior in general, less griefing, more sense of community. Which should equal greater retention and more money made.
cursive crypt
I liked kotor, haven't played anything else from their franchise ๐ค
pearl elk
I didnt mind shotor but the best one is motor
zinc matrix
Do you guys how do I use mixamo animations if I have not a real first person view? (Only arms)
median wraith
@zinc matrix good news managed to fix the yesterday issue (I think) and made the other complete 2 +1 classes (:
cursive crypt
Oh, I did soup too. These dry, stroke inducing, asia style fast foods.
"sausages" lol
dense storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9WWz95ripA just putting it out there, IKEA advert
carmine frigate
corn for my eyes?
median wraith
PORN
carmine frigate
Born
median wraith
is now clear ?