Sound about right?
#lounge
real palm
remote brook
So all the people who saw Jesus when he was alive doesn't count as seeing God?
real palm
@remote brook wait a moment
pearl elk
they saw a man, a messenger of God
zinc matrix
God wasn't being deceptive through Christ; hence why Christ told people numerous times He was in fact God incarnate
lone grail
I thought god was not jesus because Jesus is the son of god
You can't be the creator of yourself, that's how abominations are created
real palm
lone grail
Cya, it was an interesting convo! take care
remote brook
You can't be the creator of yourself, that's how abominations are created
Haha, like inbreeding? Adam and Eve didn't mind it for their kids.... haha.
lone grail
Is that why humans are flawed?
remote brook
I suppose so
real palm
<@456226577798135808> God lies right here then
He's violated an inviolable here
lone grail
Maybe you can only inbreed once and the rest are horrible, so if we are inbred, and we inbreed then demonous creatures will pop out... I dunno lol
deep glen
can we maybe not discuss religion? hehe
it never results in something positive
lone grail
It's been a weird day
real palm
Pfft gtg right when I make a point. Bet $5 that point is never addressed
not withstanding mod request
remote brook
Too much inbreeding results in zombies, duh!
pearl elk
do comic books count as religion?
real palm
do comic books count as religion?
I think the earlier discussion is a good launching point towards that conclusion
lone grail
You could start a religion based on comic books if you'd like
I did like the earlier convo about good and bad and what not, that was fun
pearl elk
Well Jedi is a religion so no one can talk about Star Wars woohoo
real palm
Does intense line of interrogatories towards an atheist about atheism count as discussion of religion?
pearl elk
Today is a good day to die
lone grail
Perhaps
carmine frigate
i dont think starwars the movie exists in the starwars universe
not like spaceballs
lone grail
Spaceballs was great
lone grail
And we do have a meetingplace
And people to praise the Unreal engine
But Epic games gives back so I don't think it is @zinc matrix
lone grail
Nothing to see here Blue man, we need a seqway
pearl elk
Fortnite is the evangelical arm of the Unreal Engine faith
remote brook
We will all be blasphemers when we move from UE4 to UE5
broken sigil
👀
pearl elk
drinks kool-aid
lone grail
Tryna seqway outta to another convo ^^
lone grail
Mmm yiss seqways
tulip orbit
no, I'm playing subnautica beyond zero.
lone grail
Nice how is it?
tulip orbit
after a nice long nap
its pretty good, more of the first one. Feel slightly directionless tho,
carmine frigate
i came from a 15 year coma and about to finish my unreal engine 2 game 😛
lone grail
Ah.
Hey I remember talking to you within 15 years!
remote brook
i came from a 15 year coma and about to finish my unreal engine 2 game 😛
Dude, let me beta test that
lone grail
I'm gonna disect a russian blueprint tutorial and write it in C++ after my lunch
pearl elk
Ive always wanted to disect a russian
lone grail
Wear eye protection, they'll squirt you with vodka
pearl elk
i came from a 15 year coma and about to finish my unreal engine 2 game 😛
wait, unreal engine 2
unrealscript ftw
lone grail
Was unrealscript based on lua?
I think I remember doing something like lua in UE3
I tried learning lua several times and I hated it so much each time
pearl elk
there was a game in UE3 that used LUA I think, it was Roboblitz or somethin if I remember rightly
could be wrong, that was a long time ago
lone grail
I never played it or heard of it lol
I found a russian guy on youtube who made a very long tutorial on creating raycast vehicle system but in Blueprints, so I'm gonna try and do each step in C++ instead and see where that gets me, I'm not confident at UE C++ at all, I know the basics of C++ sooo this should be interesting, but the more I write the more I get used to it and can comfortably write a lot more
pearl elk
I think I know the tutorial youre talking about
lone grail
Yeah, I just need some help getting a base on my vehicle system
I'm pretty good with blueprints but my game will need performance, and I just haven't really dealt with physics too much to really figure out how to write it out myself
fresh heath
cursive crypt
After the billionth joke about exiting vim it gets flat. Prolly, youngsters after 10 years will still joke about it.
Also you dont need ESC to exit.
carmine frigate
it looks like a laptop, it feels like a laptop, but its not a laptop 😛
lone grail
Oof
median wraith
the engine decided it wants to compile itself complete today
while had just the project and change a single thing from the project
nice...
lone grail
I'm actually doing stuff in C++ without internet assistance, it's quite remarkable
What's that?
Daamn that's true
Depends where you start though
Needs to be in baby size
I made a scene component and can't convert it to blueprint, I always hit the dumbest walls lol
open pawn
hi idk wher to ask, but i can only hear from one side on my headphones
they worked good a few hours ago
and now it doestn
ive tried some basic settings but nothing worked
restart pc didnt work
lone grail
Try moving the wire around while listening to something, if it comes and goes then the wire has come loose or detached
open pawn
its wireless
i downloaded voicemod and that gave me issues a year ago bcs it changed input and output
but i uninstalled it and still doesnt work
lone grail
I dunno then, I don't really deal with wireless headphones
I'm guessing the reason I can't convert Scene component to BP is because it has no real reason to be converted 🤔 eh makes sense to me
deep glen
holy shi
https://www.si.edu/openaccess
"welcome to Smithsonian Open Access, where you can download, share, and reuse millions of the Smithsonian’s images—right now, without asking. With new platforms and tools, you have easier access to more than 3 million 2D and 3D digital items from our collections—with many more to come. This includes images and data from across the Smithsonian’s 19 museums, nine research centers, libraries, archives, and the National Zoo."
median wraith
A wet dream to the people mixing and reusing content selling it xd
deep glen
XD
foggy path
as complicated as JIRA is sometimes all that complexity is useful
coworker's like.. "I wanna duplicate this template task and its subtasks, but when I do that, the subtasks get the word CLONE in the title and it's annoying"
managed to find a way to use an automation rule to automatically remove the word CLONE lol
lone grail
This whole converting BP to C++ is insane, I don't know what I was thinking
foggy path
how so?
lone grail
There's a tutorial in BP, and I want to get better at C++ and I want the extra performance, and I just like typing code more than BP's, and the engine crashes, can't figure out how to layout some code because apparently I'm not getting nearly the same results
lone grail
I've been using UE and Unity for 7 years but only diving into C++ now, well I did a bit before and it was fine, but now doing other stuff it's just mind boggling
foggy path
I think once you figure out the peculiarities of it, it gets reasonably straightforward
lone grail
Deleting my c++ component from my BP crashes the engine.
I think quite a bit is straight forward, but I still have issues with stuff I'm not too sure about
foggy path
If you launch it from VS/Rider using the debug option it should at least give you an idea on why it's crashing I think
lone grail
I'm using Rider for UE and nothing is telling me, I just assume the components aren;t read correctly somehow and when I try and remove them from my vehicle BP it has an enurism
foggy path
If you launch it from rider with debuggame editor using the debug launch option, it should give you some output in the rider console about what happened
potentially even automatically breaking on the crash so you can inspect the stack
lone grail
Ohhh I see what you mean
foggy path
but yeah it sounds like a pointer problem
lone grail
Well I commented out the entire code and I still can't delete the damn components
without a crash
the issue started when I parented the component to the Static Mesh.
Ugh, I made a half baked but still functional custom vehicle system in unity but I like UE features so wanted to make it work
loud plover
Wow. Hey. Im new here. Just looking around some. Quite an overwhelming Discord to be in, might time to adjust and see which channel I will be lurking most at. Anyway.. Hope everyone will have a Happy Better Year, and a creative flow as we head forward. Thanks.
spring kelp
Me too, I was like "Theres GOTTA be an ue4 Discord right" and lo and behold, this place looks like a godsend fr
Trying to relearn c++ after not using it for nearly two years, my brain hurts already, I was not built to understand pointers I swear
lone grail
It's crazy, I used to write C# in unity everyday, and coming to C++ makes me want to take my brain out and punt it as far as I can
fresh heath
There are much worse things in C++ than pointers
spring kelp
haha, but im sure it gets better eventually...right?
lone grail
I'm okay with pointers, it's just trying to do other things right
humble remnant
The standard if(!Object){return;}
spring kelp
what like subclasses or something?
humble remnant
And yeah, C++ deffo increases development time if you're working with a lot of pointers
If I got a crash every time my BPs said object is None I'd probs quit UE4
lone grail
I just wanna make my racing game with custom Vehicle system 😭
Oh btw I ran the editor with Rider and Rider didn't come back with anything when it crashed soooooo F me right?
foggy path
Tbh you should be able to predict null pointers to some degree... you should usually know when it can be null and when it can't (or shouldn't)
or at least you can with experience since you can reason about the code you wrote and how it will behave
lone grail
Yeah that's easy stuff
I'm gonna just delete my blueprint and generate another one from my CPP class, it's screwed for good apparently lol
spring kelp
From my experience coding sounds like it would be a very mechanical process but writing good code ends up coming down to instinct and experience
lone grail
I can write good Unity C# code since it's what I'm used to, and I enjoy it most of the time
spring kelp
yeah once you know what your doing its fun, but its the knowing what your doing thats the problem
lone grail
Yeah, that's what makes me keep going back to unity but I keep coming back here because I like the toolsets for designing
spring kelp
yeah its bizzare epicGames has come into so much money from tencent or whatever that theyre just giving away what ive seen to be one of the best general purpose game engine
spring kelp
^
foggy path
lol
lone grail
Lol yeah
lone grail
Youtubers and streamers dumping $$$$ every video and stream for skins
spring kelp
let that sink in
lone grail
Well that actually rarely happens
Most people who put $ into fortnite are doing it because they are allowed / old enough
spring kelp
I heard its about whales right, like people who spend WAY too much on it
lone grail
Yeah
spring kelp
And with fortnite youll find a shocking number of those whales are kids with parents that either dont know or dont care how much is being spent
loud plover
Never touched C++ wonder if I ever get into it. I might, but got limited time each day. Might take years.
foggy path
Wouldn't worry about it, I did plenty with pure BP's before bothering with C++
lone grail
There's a lot of jokes saying it's kids stealing, but it's not
foggy path
and even then if you need C++, you pretty much can just write a really simple wrapper to expose it to a BP and there you go
spring kelp
i know two relatives who put well over 200 pound into games
real palm
And with fortnite youll find a shocking number of those whales are kids with par...
do you have hard stats?
real palm
Ah, carry on then
loud plover
Am on like.. Day 5 or 6 of Unreal Engine try-outs, soon gonna try to get health to work on my 2D paper, trying a 3rd tutorial since first 2 didnt work. Not sure whats off, will get back if I get stuck in the unreal-engine channel.
foggy path
200 is not that much money to put into a game, depending on how many hours you're playing
imo
that's basically 4 full price games so if you spend a lot of time playing something, spending that money isn't that weird
lone grail
I figured I'd use C++ because I enjoy typing code and dislike visual scripting, but would an open world racing game like a smaller scale NFS do okay in Bp's?
I've spend 200 on 1 game lol (Collectors edition)
spring kelp
Its just weird is all
lone grail
How so?
foggy path
You've clearly never met an adult gamer with disposable income if you think spending 200 gbp in a game is weird lol
spring kelp
kids taking money from parents and spending like 1000 quid on clash of clans
real palm
I figured I'd use C++ because I enjoy typing code and dislike visual scripting, ...
it should be okay unless you're doing anything obviously bad
lone grail
It's just hard for me to use only BP's because I love to code
real palm
most of that speed will be streaming things properly
that can be a bit tricky in BP
But the real goal is a mixture, you should do heavier things in native code
lone grail
And that brings me to where I am now lol
spring kelp
@zinc matrix thats different, cause you know what money is worth(I assume) kids dont
real palm
things like "oh I wonder when this is loaded" can be BP
spring kelp
200 pound is just how much they spent to them, it isnt like food money or rent
foggy path
well if the parents don't give a fuck then ¯_(ツ)_/¯
spring kelp
yeah lol
foggy path
I don't think it's such a common thing tbh
Most parents don't have tons of money to just throw away like that
lone grail
My parents allowed me to spend some money on games every once in a while as a kid but it was monitored
foggy path
Yeah same
lone grail
Yeah most parents monitor
spring kelp
i must be a bad case study
real palm
I don't think I was allowed to install a free game without a conservation
spring kelp
in that regard
foggy path
There is a reason most games I had as a kid were pirate versions lol
real palm
That was more about controlling what I did with technology than money though
I for sure wasnt allowed free reign with the CC
spring kelp
I just played TF2 and a copy of minecraft I shared with my siblings
lone grail
I was never allowed to have a CC until I got a job, but I still didn't get one until I was 19
I played NES, SNES, and Gamecube lol
foggy path
I got a debit card maybe in my early teens as it was a thing our banks liked to push, but that didn't work for any kind of online purchases or such at the time
I didn't even have a "proper" credit card until well into my 20s
lone grail
I got a debit when I got a job
spring kelp
^
remote brook
Blowing money on mobile games doesn't just apply to kids. My father, who is in his 60s, recently got hooked on some mobile quiz game, and he ended up spending hundreds buying in-game hints, lol.
loud plover
I should be working. 😄 Nice to met you all. Have a great week.
lone grail
I should be working but nothing is working so f it
spring kelp
Yeah, theyre the strangest games aswell, like theyre usually just some reskinned candy crush or something
remote brook
When you make it very easy for purchases to happen and you put the opportunity to buy all over the game, well....
lone grail
The only mobile game I play is Arknights for the most part
spring kelp
I got this game named scorched combat thats one of those early 2000s 2D physics tank games where you have to get the right trajectory, its really good when your on the train and you want to show the terrible AI whats what
Oh thats the one! Though the phone version is way simpler
mechanically simpler I mean, like less features
fluid bloom
my uncle got a computer with that on it
it was great
though I think it was the windows 3.1 version
humble remnant
raw rose
cursive crypt
While that is violation, open sourcing a full copyrighted project looks for troubles.
fathom wadi
No license associated with his github at all. Then to make it even worse for himself,
he's probably not gonna get the resolution he requires here
Especially shouting at Epic to keep an eye on "Property Rights" when he can't even license his own repo that comes with licensing built in
fluid bloom
if the stuff does not have an explicit license then he retains all rights to it
median wraith
The other day posted about an individual using others images to make packs and sell it
The original author came and threaten he, after all the original author gave the thanks to the thief x2 times as he finally added the license, while keep getting 10k on itch with others content based material, nobody told me anything after spend 1h searching the original material
so after all this ends nowhere
tidal ivy
this is the page for Github's 'no license':
https://choosealicense.com/no-permission/
"If you find software that doesn’t have a license, that generally means you have no permission from the creators of the software to use, modify, or share the software. Although a code host such as GitHub may allow you to view and fork the code, this does not imply that you are permitted to use, modify, or share the software for any purpose."
median wraith
whatever you do in the life, even if got no license is protected by your personal rights
so what is missing here is the morality of the individuals using others content to sell as theirs in a product
tidal ivy
there's a fair chunk of stuff on the marketplace that I'm pretty sure is probably just taken from tutorials and sold for profit
pearl elk
Look at all the dodgy crap on eBay and Amazon
tidal ivy
my favourite is when two or three very similar, very specific things all appear on there at the same time
I just wonder to myself "whose tutorial is this ripping off?"
median wraith
well technically even if you replicated a tutorial with your changes shouldn't be ripoff, while you didnt used files from it
pearl elk
the question I have here is if A Plague Tale IP owners have that name or only the full title with Innocence included because if so they might have a case against both here. Though they might just consider it free advertising in the case of the free tutorial
because the tutorial holder has rights to their work not the IP they are using to promote their work
tidal ivy
if you copy a tutorial, you don't necessarily have any rights to use that code
median wraith
Once I worked for a person that annoy he the fact I do the things myself, rather than search for youtube tutorials because could cost me less time
tidal ivy
tutorial code without a license has an implicit license for private use (i.e recreate this for learning purposes), but if there's no actual license attached then it's still very much subject to copyright
pearl elk
be funny if the Marketplace item was being sold by the owner of the IP
median wraith
well thats correct up to an extend, at the end we always reproduce what we learned somewhere, so yeah if you will do a clone that isn't a good idea, but you maybe combine learned tutorials and do something interesting by yourself
fluid bloom
generally speaking I don't mind marketplace stuff that is practically an implementation of some tutorial
you are paying for the time invested into making the systems
you can do it yourself and waste time or you can buy it off the shelf
median wraith
last time I reported something at Epic were smooth and fine... meanwhile for example at Skethfab they asked me for Treyarch to come and fill a DMCA because I have no permision to report others content
fluid bloom
if that's worth it is another story though... 😄
median wraith
the one reporting the tutorial copied by other
is using a mesh from Free3D that says is just for personal use and posting it on Github
because lets be honest in that web content is almost the 99% a ripoff
pearl elk
so can I use marketplace content to make other marketplace content 😛
"substantial changes"
fluid bloom
didn't he say "don't call be cliffyb" one time ages ago?
just looking at his twitter handle
pearl elk
probably after he chose his twitter handle
I think its probably more of an in person thing, he probably just thought he might have out grown Cliffy
median wraith
Imagine create a competitive shooter that you need the last GPU in the market to get 60FPS
what can be wrong Cliff
pearl elk
poor Hevedy you only just got the specs to play his last shooter at 60FPS 😛
tidal ivy
that 'Free3D rat' is also not free commercial use
the license is right there on the page
pearl elk
pretty sure they already took the rat burger off the marketplace
median wraith
the marketplace dude added scorpions etc and seems like the rats isn't the same mesh
aren't even animated
both cases the particles cross the walls
pearl elk
why would you make original content for the MP anyways
youre meant to take stuff you made for other stores and just spam em all over every store you can find
cursive crypt
Long live copy-paste
carmine frigate
supply and demand, there is great suplly and demand of stolen stuff 😛
cursive crypt
tbh, demand is about cheap stuff
carmine frigate
if it aint stolen, ur overpaying 😛
median wraith
back in the days when I was 14, copy pasted a single article from a blog to my blog (where I had no ads or whatever) and credited the original author
cursive crypt
lol, tru
median wraith
turns out when the author noticed it send 20 individuals from a forum to send me death threats to me and my family etc to my private email
and at the first I didn't know why it was
pearl elk
we had this unwritten rule back in my day that even if something was open source you still let the author know you were using their work
cursive crypt
Back then ppl were more angry at these things. Nowadays, you can't fight that whole wave of copy-paste
pearl elk
back in the day when only nerds could use computers 😛
median wraith
origin service is collapsed ?
pearl elk
damn you Bill Gates and you too Steve Jobs, had to make the whole thing more accessible didnt ya
median wraith
lol
now is all about libre word
Libre from Latin you know
🤪
the communist latin
pearl elk
libre grande
fathom wadi
and other gibberish classics on this 4 LP vinyl set for only 9.99
pearl elk
I found out something interesting yesterday
apparently there are no console sales stats from China because the Chinese like to import overseas models
so some of the sales you see in HK, Japan etc actually belong to the Chinese market
fathom wadi
Nice one I got a comment on my Joomla website. Wait.. I don't have a Joomla website. This email seems like a fraud ! Has anyone else heard of this "email fishing" before?
median wraith
got balls everywhere
fathom wadi
best you ever seen 😄
median wraith
lol
median wraith
10.000 persons are afk at this moment
fathom wadi
probably got jobs and lives and feel fulfilled or something crass.
median wraith
wait, the people have lives ?
I thought they just check others ones pretending to have one at instagram
fathom wadi
virtual ones these days yeah
I never liked offices, but right now I'd work in one just to get some peace from the kids so I can work harder 😄
fathom wadi
that was my point 😄
median wraith
@pearl elk I don't even meet the minimum specs to play modern indies lmao
this guy is selling a Ray Traced only indie game
sold more than some AAA
fathom wadi
Just think... the art of the fake n bake GI system is gonna take a back seat to "Oh look at the shiny shiny automode lighting" 😄
graceful furnace
Just got this in the mail:
We are organizing an online Game Jam to allow the first batch of games in our new platform <redacted>. If you are a terrific game developer but haven’t dipped your toes yet into the crypto-economy, this is definitely your opportunity. Make your mark, anticipate to the others and give birth to one of the first quality crypto-games over the Bitcoin blockchain that will revolutionize the gaming industry.
The.
what.
fathom wadi
its been tested before and has been due to turn up again
Imagine how cool it would be to give everyone who develops a part of a game a technical share in the complete wealth of the block. Now imagine that with a game as a service that is popular. Now imagine the value of those if they were intrinsically linked to the stock price of a floated company. Seems like the future to me.
my room is so noisy, I put my mic on low setting, turned up the gain gating to block out the background noise above a volume, and still my kids manage to peak my mic. It's like im in concentration purgatory
fluid bloom
what's the size of the chain these days?
500 GB?
only 300 GB actually https://www.statista.com/statistics/647523/worldwide-bitcoin-blockchain-size/
fathom wadi
yeah the previous tests were all with custom crypto but the problem is you need the success for it to work and gaming has what... a week of initial launch interest on most games, then a niche for the rest that update as a service? Seems hard to pull off unless its an already existing product and that negates the initial investment value for devs.
pearl elk
did they even tell you what company they represent
fathom wadi
Trotters Independent Traders
pearl elk
I had one crypto scammer try to use articles on a site where anyone can publish as an author to try to make it look legit
fathom wadi
I once had this guy offer me a paper cryptocurrency and I said "No thank you I'm only interested in real money" and he replied "Sir this real, it's a bank"
graceful furnace
did they even tell you what company they represent
Everything about it is legit, I redacted the info regardless because you know it's just one of those bitcoin bubble startups that will end up in no good.
Next up, bitcoin revolution in the garbage collection industry
graceful furnace
I agree with you there, personally I think it's not legit either.
pearl elk
so how much are games going to cost on this bitcoin platform, $44,000AUD each? lol
graceful furnace
Oh sorry, that was yesterday's price, it's now $63,000AUD
pearl elk
laughs in Epic Launcher
tidal ivy
there's is absolutely no place in games for Blockchain nonsense
I've seen a couple of games using it recently, and everything about them is just horrifying
I particularly like the "but you own your in game items for real!" sales pitch, but they conveniently neglect to mention that they control the supply of those items, and those items are completely useless and valueless without the context of their game
the Dr Who card game seems to be a game built for "the joy of selling microtransactions" and everything else about it looks like garbage, lol
deep glen
there is already a digital art platform where you pay with eretheum so you can purchase and own the rights to digital art
pearl elk
might as well just sell CD Keys with your Yeezys so you can wear em in Fortnite 😛
deep glen
games will follow
tidal ivy
I've seen the blockchain art and it's equally weird, yes
fluid bloom
I hate the blockchain hype
tidal ivy
there's legitimately no reason for blockchain to be involved there
fluid bloom
every single rust job is blockchain stuff (slightly exaggerating here)
tidal ivy
it's just adding a failure point to a licensing sale
for no reason other than because you can
pearl elk
blockchain means you cant trace the greedy buggers who are ripping people off 😛
its perfect for MTX TBH
Suprise mechanics with none of the guilt
tidal ivy
the thing is, the digital art version argues that 'you own this unique piece of art!'
but you don't
there's nothing that requires that token you have to correlate to that unique artwork because there is no unique artwork
you don't deprive the author of their original when you make a digital copy of a file
so all you're actually getting is a license to say you own it
so, yay?
pearl elk
but my version is digitally superior, the 1s and 0s are of the highest quality
tidal ivy
Blockchain madness and how it should GTFO of videogames
pearl elk
you bought 2 swords, 1 potion and 45 scrolls that will be 0.00000000000000034 bitcoins please
soft night
5 bitcoins only minimum hehe
pearl elk
5 bitcoins gets you 4327 ingame currency
but you need to convert t hose to astral diamonds at a conversion rate of 1:0.35345 to purchase from our paragon tier vendors
tidal ivy
and a hat that says you spent 5 bitcoins
soft night
plus shirt
pearl elk
what no face mask, what a rip off 😛
pearl elk
Thiccoin
soft night
MonsCoin
pearl elk
fathom wadi
CoinCoin. The coin of the old coin generation
fluid bloom
looks like Anakin was right, spinning is a good trick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuqEX1PnG9I
fringe sundial
@tidal ivy there was one legit use of blockchain for games ive seen
it was done by a ubisoft research project
they had a game with user generated content
and said user generated content didnt run on a central server
the game was fully P2P
with the UGC being stored in the blockchain
and as a fun bonus it was ultrasafe because only the guy who created the UGC can edit it on the blockchain
foggy path
I heard RedFox Labs was working on something like that as well
fringe sundial
thats literally the single only "hey that could be useful" blockchain/games thing ive seen
specially for indie games
because then you dont need central account system and central servers
foggy path
basically player owned items etc. that could be stored on the blockchain and would have proper ownership in the sense that you could even take the items between games that supported it
fringe sundial
player owned items are a massively retarded idea
its braindead megaretarded
the game generates the objects
this defeats literally the entire fucking point
foggy path
Yeah I mean I think it was more about cosmetic items and such that you might buy
not random generated
in case of RedFox Labs' thing
fringe sundial
dumbass stuff like that is what makes blockchain for games be a joke of a sector
deep glen
@fringe sundial please refrain from using the word "retarded" thanks
fringe sundial
because the "real" uses of decentralized P2P stuff get removed for that easy stuff
another use where blockchain could be a thing is for progression systems
again, removing central server
imagine you are making COD
with COD levelling
but you are cheap and dont want centralized matchmaking servers and centralized player info
you can use torrent style protocols to run matchmaking, and the actual account data like level/items is stored in the blockchain
and the game servers are P2P like they already are
only server you would need to run is some "tracker" type nodes, which are very low on traffic as they are kinda just an index
foggy path
I wonder how much disk space would running the blockchain require from the clients
fringe sundial
thats the downside
but there are newer types of blockchain that dont have that issue
foggy path
ah, thought there might have been
was just thinking the btc chain is rather prohibitive in size lol
fringe sundial
the thing is that you need to merge torrent type technology with blockchain
so that the blockchain nodes are distributed
and you dont need all of them
just the neccesary to do your thing
foggy path
P2P warez programs have done that for a long time I think, or not exactly, but something sorta like it
fringe sundial
you know how torrents work? they split the file into pieces, and the pieces are sent beetween people
foggy path
where they distribute information amongst themselves about users and what files they're sharing
fringe sundial
do exactly the same but with blockchain nodes
if you are trying to load a map made by some modder
that map is like a torrent
its spread over (lets say) 20 blocknodes
so your client would need to find the 20 blocknodes
from other players
in the same way a torrent client tries to find the different pieces of the file you are pirating
zinc matrix
are there games which have full dynamic lighting as ue5?
foggy path
makes me wonder how many connectivity issues that method would have
one of the problems with P2P download clients was always the connectivity
fringe sundial
i believe thats kinda the main thing with blockchain. Blockchain is a distributed database. You can combine it with other P2P technologies like torrents which are distributed file storage to get some real fun stuff
@foggy path but thats happening rigt now. That wouldnt change
the thing is
imagine EA is being extra cheap
they dont want to pay money for the database servers for player info
if they do this technology, they only need 1 server
the tracker
foggy path
Well, at least with a traditional server tech there are methods you can use to bypass connectivity issues even with NATs and no UPnP in place
foggy path
I guess you'd have to distribute all the connection information through a central server
fringe sundial
its just that instead of matchmaking and progression going through centralized servers and DBs, it would be distributed
but you know why EA actually wont ever do this?
it means the game never ever dies
couse people can just connect to other trackers, or selfmade ones
in a way, like games with old server-browsers
foggy path
Eh, "never dies" I don't really know :D
fringe sundial
but with progression and stuff still working
games like Doom multiplayer still work because you can connect to any server browser uploaded by people
foggy path
A lot of popular games with server browsers are practically dead now
fringe sundial
practically dead, but not dead
vs the actually 100% in the grave games
because the servers and progression systems got pulled
foggy path
yeah but it being practically dead in a business sense means that isn't really a valid reason to not do something like that because it doesn't matter in the big picture
fringe sundial
the thing is that modern games rely on their progression systems and unlocks and etc
and that has to be centralized
and its what gets killed, making the game stop working
games like Quake never die
because they support direct IP connect
or LAN connect
foggy path
Yeah but that's not really a problem for companies
finite lark
games that support making your own dc servers 😁
fringe sundial
the thing is that with blockchain you could have the progression stuff distributed
and if its distributed
you dont care about it
no need to mantain servers
its essentially 0 effort, it runs itself
you can also use torrents for game patches
blizzard does it
saves untold amounts of money
and its pretty easy to do. You just have your own torrent tracker in the master server with the torrent, and let the torrent protocol do its thing
foggy path
if blockchain would be useful then I'm sure we'll see it being used for it sometime in the future
median wraith
let me tell you COD4 download modded patches as official, and they made a whole new server structure to backup the official game lol
foggy path
It's probably not a particularly high priority problem for game developers
median wraith
in all the cases you need a community there
fringe sundial
its a high prio problem more for indies
who are the ones that might want to go distributed to save money
foggy path
the problem is then that blockchain isn't exactly trivial to utilize
fringe sundial
it is
just fork ethereum
and call it some random shit
easy blockchain$$$$
what do you think every one of those scammers do
foggy path
whenever people say "just do X" it rarely is quite that trivial :P
median wraith
there are indies that get spot in 1 month, others keep there 30 years and nobody gives a shit, despite they made more work done than the others, idk how it works anymore XD
foggy path
I'm fairly sure he'd say "it's not trivial" if we asked him lol
fringe sundial
what 99% of everything in blockchain is is just scams
they just fork another blockchain, and try to get the cash
thats what all altcoins are
inmense mayority of them arent even code changes
litecoin is just bitcoin but with some small code tweaks to make it faster/lighter
foggy path
dogecoin > all
fringe sundial
ethereum is an actual legit project
dogecoin is a fork of litecoin with 0 changes
foggy path
lol
fringe sundial
its just... far to easy to scam money of people in the bitcoin sector
some people give so few fucks they dont even go through the effort of copypasting litecoin codebase
they instead make ethereum tokens
which take a grand total of literally 5 minutes to make
ive done it for funsies
if you see something that is an ethereum token you can be 100% sure its a scam
im not aware of a single case where it wasnt
tho the biggest scam is the one going with Tether
Tether tokens are "promised" to be 1 dollar
1 tether = 1 dollar
a bit like a bank
the fun part is
they arent doing it
they are literally just printing dollars
and just saying "yeh its actually backed in investments, we swear"
thats going to pop soon
foggy path
Tether is dodgy as fuck
fringe sundial
and its going to be a huge disaster
fringe sundial
im trying to time my bitcoin sell to that
foggy path
I've seen patio11 tweet about Tether on occasion and it looks so dubious
fringe sundial
tether is obviously illegal
they no longer map 1 tether to 1 dollar
well, they say 1 tether is 1 dollar
but in reality it isnt, as they dont have enough dollars for all the tokens in circulation
the idea of Tether is simple
you give me 10 dollars
i give you 10 tokens
i keep the dollars stored
and at other point you can come to me with 5 tokens
and i give you 5 dollars
fluid bloom
upgraded my order of 5900X to an 5950X
median wraith
oh if you write a text at Discord and then select a gif, it removes the whole text and print the gif, nice
foggy path
UNKOin was funny, sadly it appears to have died
un = luck in japanese, and koin, well obviously it looks like "coin"
but unko = poop
so it was just a really terrible pun like that lol
cursive crypt
nice
median wraith
but in the payday don't the 85% goes offshore ?
foggy path
But does it come with a license agreement for the sticker
I wonder if Intel still does that
cursive crypt
For a second thought that upper thing is a condom.
pearl elk
the sticker is nice but the Seasonic badge is nicer
foggy path
median wraith
they diffused the internal explosive in 2 countries ?
foggy path
This came with one of my Intel CPUs, might have been my current i7
median wraith
Letni such a good chip
fluid bloom
but in the payday don't the 85% goes offshore ?
offshore?
median wraith
lmao
fluid bloom
if you're talking about tax evasion that'd be quite difficult considering the tax agency gets automatically notified of all paid salaries for every people in real time 😄
I'd have to be paid in cash
I don't want cash
median wraith
na is a reference to payday2 offshore payments, plus a joke about your tax money up a 30% going to the offshore accounts of our politicians
pearl elk
remember people wrap your CPUs or you'll be paying PC support for years 😛
median wraith
wtf
Origin locked the access to my account
I had this game purchased before lmao
@fringe sundial does ConsoleVariables.ini can be set per project ?
someone else knows ?
median wraith
@gloomy badge by the way, what version are you and you're using only LPV to get occlusion areas ?
zinc matrix
anyone here know why youtube doesnt show me relevant videos according to what im watching??
like im watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04YUZ3bWAyg but on the right side it shows me "animation bootcamp
or wow wotlk main theme, or crafting a tiny open world, a short hie postmortem
i hate google
seriously
stupid company
ducktube
sure
median wraith
but are you using Distance Fields too ?
gleaming hill
pearl elk
like im watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04YUZ3bWAyg but on the right s...
I think maybe related videos are the ones shown ontop once the video is over, the others are recommendations from your feed
median wraith
@gloomy badge yeah sadly the occlusion isn't working to me https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-51644
yeah is kinda broken
disabled the decals
lets see if helps in something
zinc matrix
I think maybe related videos are the ones shown ontop once the video is over, th...
can i reset my feed?
i think i have a GI kink
median wraith
Well UE4 is a safe place to you then
you cannot make your kink reality
🤫
Lumen cannot do VR
😂
there are community made solutions
that already works
pearl elk
can i reset my feed?
You see those bubble tags on the top right, hit related
median wraith
I use an edited IBL system + custom AO
can you point the marketplace one ?
there used to be 3
and at this point I won't release mine as tbh is kinda a joke since RT is a thing
oh yeah that one
well my system have a limit
what problem is with it ?
it should be auto managed
zinc matrix
@pearl elk thanks
zinc matrix
Well UE4 is a safe place to you then
ue5 will soon be my real life kink
@gloomy badge MUUUH buuh ray tracing. we need nasa pcs for ray tracing
pearl elk
I dunno if I can make the jump to UE5, its just going to be so different 😛
pearl elk
its next to the bake normals button
zinc matrix
ue4 has bake normals?
median wraith
is a combo
zinc matrix
is a combo
of what again
pearl elk
those hieroglyphs look alittle dodgy
median wraith
lol
zinc matrix
woa
median wraith
man I don't want to work today
pearl elk
all because I accidentally typed it without the decimal and its like wait that looks familiar
zinc matrix
give up. ue5 incoming. but 30 fps only if GI
median wraith
we will see
my games target is 1440p at 80FPS in a 970GTX
there isn't many fancy things I can do
pearl elk
good luck with that
you could make a snake out of voxels eat fruit made of voxels
unfortunately I feel like the 3060 is going to be overpriced since they stacked it with RAM it doesnt need
my 1070GTX is similar, it has 8GB and realistically its never gone over 6
pearl elk
just because you have the RAM doesnt mean the card can use it effectively is my point
zinc matrix
ya.
pearl elk
I could load up my 1070 but its going to run like ass cuz Im pushing the GPU too hard
foggy path
my game uses quite a lot of VRAM because I generate a lot of textures at runtime :P
well, I haven't really looked at it in that much detail but my friend who's working on it with me complains he's getting out of VRAM issues on his ancient GPU lol
zinc matrix
my game uses quite a lot of VRAM because I generate a lot of textures at runtime...
show
foggy path
all of the textures on the boxes are generated at runtime
zinc matrix
great game
foggy path
and there's a couple hundred of these :D
zinc matrix
how do you make it live?
foggy path
what do you mean?
foggy path
well the game is a video rental store simulation/tycoon thing, so it needs to give you a lot of different videos that you can rent out
so having dynamically generated box art for the videos makes it a bit more interesting :D
zinc matrix
how do you make that
why dont you make it when the game starts
with random pictures and title
foggy path
That's what it does
zinc matrix
so its not on runtime really?
pearl elk
you should cache em to the HDD so you dont keep em all in memory all the time
or is it like a big atlas
foggy path
Yeah the reason it's using a texture and not a material is because it's pretty hard to do "design" using a material
like.. good luck doing word wrap for text or other stuff like that in a material
text component is really bad performancewise in comparison
it actually uses a UMG widget which is rendered into a texture, since that offers really good flexibility with the design
But yeah I'm probably gonna have to figure out some way to reduce vram usage with them at some point :P
pearl elk
Id watch Pink and Strong
foggy path
I can probably reduce the resolution of the texture without losing too much fidelity at least to start with if needed
Yeah that's actually another feature I've been thinking of adding
Since I have a basic movie "storyline" generator
I could potentially expand it to actually allow you to watch the movies by using the generated storyline as a base for just moving some characters around lol
and things like that
but that feature isn't really particularly core to the gameplay, would just be kinda interesting to see how that would work :P
cursive crypt
Huh, UE started doing some random stuff on its own LogHttp: Warning: Retry exhausted on https://datarouter.ol.epicgames.com/datarouter/api/v1/public/data?AppID=UEEditor.Rocket.Release&AppVersion=4.25.4-1
foggy path
Yeah I've seen that a few times, I guess it's just diagnostics/usage reporting
cursive crypt
hmm....
pearl elk
Thats actually Battlefront 2 mk 2
because ofcoarse its Star Wars and any consistent naming would be shunned
foggy path
so after Battlefront 3, they'll make Battlefront -3 because obviously they need a prequel trilogy?
ancient ingot
lol
pearl elk
Battlefront -3 Revenge of the 6th
woo this could be good, everyones getting their fighting mits on
fresh heath
This is a more complete article: https://www.oregonlive.com/silicon-forest/2021/01/intel-will-wait-for-new-ceo-to-make-critical-decisions-on-manufacturing-crisis.html
fresh heath
The ad-blocking plugin I'm using defeats the subscription lock very easily
pearl elk
yeah its odd I got acouple of em and they didnt block it
I kinda know whats going to happen, Intel are going to shut down alot of their branches of chips and focus on some of the core ones
They are all over the place atm not even the most diehard Intel fans can keep up with their architectures
they might as well have product numbers written in binary
median wraith
@pearl elk hey with that stats got 60FPS in Battlefront
cursive crypt
Wonder whether Epic really even look at all these crash reports send everyday. I have counted several contributions from my side today for example.
pearl elk
I try not to send Epic every one of my crash reports, I only send em when I need to
like yesterday when I was installing new nvidia drivers with UE4 open 😛
No need to flood Epic with your bugs
tbh they probably filter alot of em out by now
I wonder if anyone has written a love letter in the crash report box yet
carmine frigate
i allways say like and subscribe for more crashreports
median wraith
someone should make that
OnlyReports or OnlyCrash
COD4 Only Crash 24/7
somehow removed 200gb in games and installed 70gb
now I got less space
pearl elk
half installed games take more space
pearl elk
no one designs levels anymore, they just throw greyboxes around until it looks cool
median wraith
Lol
I'm talking with 5 individuals at time for different jobs and man what the hell, it's like nobody cares, a complete week and they didn't set a date yet just keep talking and right now I'm in a job need for a minimal income, Jesus
fluid bloom
damn those anims
love those little details where the guns and equipment shakes a bit
too bad gameplay looks like CoD in space
inland flame
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foggy path
too bad gameplay looks like CoD in space
I don't think that's right.. I think this game is more a spiritual successor to Shattered Horizon
well actually I don't know if it has anything to do with that game but from what I understand it has fairly similar mechanics
rich quiver
space cod
foggy path
Eh
I mean it looks like Shattered Horizon to me with some modern HUD elements :P
Shattered Horizon had a cool feature called silent running... you'd turn off your energy basically
fluid bloom
shattered horizon had slower gameplay based on the video
foggy path
this would remove all sounds because sounds don't travel in space and make you invisible on radar and such
fluid bloom
could be that the video just completely fails to capture what the actual gameplay is like 😄
fluid bloom
funny how the guy in the video just completely ignores the existence of shattered horizon 😄
foggy path
I don't think most people know it exists
As cool as it was, it was pretty niche
Oh neat, 4.26 has a random array item node
I can delete my custom macro for it now :P
pearl elk
too bad gameplay looks like CoD in space
CoD Infinite Warfare?
fluid bloom
any cod
fluid bloom
last cod I played had those rods in space
in SP
then I played to some stadium level and got bored and quit
pearl elk
makes you wonder how bullet guns fire in space doesnt it
someone forgot their fire triangle
median wraith
I'm sorry cod game play on old ones were good
foggy path
I enjoyed the recent Modern Warfare game
last one I played before that I think was Advanced Warfare which was okay
fluid bloom
@pearl elk the same as on earth?
how do you think different rocket stages are separated? 😄
(explosive bolts)
a musket wouldn't work of course
modern bullets with modern gunpowder? It has oxidiser and should work just fine
median wraith
I enjoyed the recent Modern Warfare game
Yeah last one gunplay is decent
pearl elk
well test it out and let me know how it goes
before they arrest you for having weapons in space that is 😛
foggy path
Pretty sure the gunplay in all cods is largely the same lol
at least in the recent ish entries
fluid bloom
yup
deep glen
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAQwk8vjlBLizpmGKVbZNLQ some good horror stuff
median wraith
Following that guy for awhile does awesome renders
That one looks a fixed thing inside sequencer tbh
Let's see how evolve
median wraith
Who gave you the report of my sexual life?
Reminds me when worked for the datacenter xD
quiet narwhal
ugh... so amd seems to be pretty much out of stock in most places for higher end stuff. thinking of just making a new mid range intel machine then since there is plenty of stock for that. Anyone have an experiene or a good recommendation for an intel based cpu/mainboard setup in the mid range? 6-8 cores not too expensive just looking for a good value basic work machine
cursive crypt
Still 4 cores... sigh
fluid bloom
gib 5950X
median wraith
@quiet narwhal maybe you can get some 4 years old CPU at some store, have low prices and are good cpus
quiet narwhal
Can’t buy a 5950x right now or I would lol
So just gonna slap together a mid range intel for use since that’s all that’s local right now. Hoping there is a good value one
fathom wadi
path of exile league just started. Gonna be the best one ever (if it doesn't bug out). 😄
quiet narwhal
I keep trying to get more into path of exile but it feels so damn overwhelming
fathom wadi
this one is gonna be the most overwhelming. They brought back Harvest crafting. Things gonna get silly.
In around 2-4 weeks time the item pool is gonna be sick
I think GGG wanted to make something special after the last failures and it looks like they really pulled it out of the bag.
quiet narwhal
I’ve always had fun but at a certain point the trees just overwhelm me and I give up
fathom wadi
its a lot easier if you use Path of Building Community to plan things out. Its got filters and things, power indicators on nodes, you can see all your stats update in realtime etc
quiet narwhal
And when items have enough description on them to fill the screen... lol it’s why I quit Everquest 1 and 2 T a certain point. Skill overcreep
I should just buckle down and invest time into a season like that using the tools but I prefer to play on console sooooooooooooooooooo
fathom wadi
hah I couldn't play on console without constantly saying "I should play this on PC" 😄 My muscle memory would freak out
median wraith
The condensed water inside the masks with termal difference is terrible
I do 8km and is filled in water
If you do the double you can bill a glass
Walking
XD
Yeah I feel it but I have to move myself
Takes me about 2h
The whole walk
fresh heath
carmine frigate
AMD is good on stock here
soft night
https://twitter.com/SoVeryFinnish/status/1350023733717716992?s=20 when Star Wars Hoth planet isnt that cold after all
the hoth scene was shot in norway
fresh heath
austere glen
Starlance Studios or Star Lance Studios? What would you type out on google?
cursive crypt
1st
humble remnant
Goddamn render targets
Why is their alpha inverted
Is there no scene capture type that doesn't invert the opacity
I just want to export a scene to a .png but the inverted opacity just yeets it all away
proud pier
Moo
cursive crypt
I just want to export a scene to a .png but the inverted opacity just yeets it a...
What is the problem? Just export and invert outside. Just don't use Photoshop and its broken implementation of png.
cursive crypt
lol, the influx of "cyberpunk" models on the market
pearl elk
I prefer cyberchunk its thicc
pearl elk
https://twitter.com/PCGamesN/status/1350329436374134784
you'll just have to learn to puppeteer with a VR kit
pearl elk
there is no box, only a surprise
median wraith
XD
pearl elk
It is nice to see someone appreciate Cyberpunk 2077 for what its worth though, even side characters are well voiced and animated
pretty clear from the credits most of the money went into the actors, bout 4x as many actors as developers lol especially if you include all the localisation voice teams
makes me think, yup all my games are subtitles only 😛
cursive crypt
I kinda don't care about the game enough to play it, but as you said - it is impressive product from what I saw. Yesterday I saw a dump of character work - freaking good.
Ofc, as inspiring so and depressing for a solo workers. Except if you don't want to spend 50% of the time modelling the hairs inside the nostrils.
zinc matrix
Everytime i try to go to answerhub this error comes
i tried different browser but the same thing happens, it only works in incognito mode
could someone please help me?
pearl elk
yeah CGChat was always like that, its like amazing and get the buzz then its like oh, depression sets in when you cant match the quality lol
Odd AnswerHub seems to work fine for me
Epic should really update that Copyright, make it dynamic year
ornate timber
pearl elk
Yup getting the same thing here too now
Someones just gonna have to pay to renew Epics license for em 😛
cursive crypt
We gotta form a donation fund for Epic guys
delicate lark
they should apply for a megagrant
median wraith
lol
fathom wadi
I live by the sea always. If it's not there to stare at awesomely and get inspiration, I feel like I am locked in a box. Yet the funny thing is, I won't step foot in an ocean. Sometimes, I wish I were ocean sized. https://youtu.be/K50oa8-iw5E?t=181
cursive crypt
Sounds like lyric
cursive crypt
You should always have a pen & paper next to you for such cases.
deep glen
cpu: wha.. wha are you doing stepmotherboard
median wraith
lol
cursive crypt
cough
median wraith
let me do the last relight with this computer, my senpai wants it
by the way
this is it
the missing free month things just release
fathom wadi
yeah ambient occlusion looks ok.
deep glen
@zinc matrix still waiting for the snow over here
cursive crypt
Kinda have only 5cm, and on some places :/
mossy nexus
We have snow! About 1 cm. Only it's not snow. It's rain. We have rain!
fathom wadi
Start the day on Twitter with a bang 😄
oof. Looks like I played 291 hours of slots last year. Never won a thing 😄
upbeat agate
Has anyone hare every played a ps1 game called legend of legaia??
deep glen
oh that brings back memories
it was hard as balls
but the battle system was very cool
upbeat agate
lol its one of my favert games
and i would love to remake it but i have no idear how to do it
deep glen
i never finished it because my imported version would lock up around the 4th village
well a remake would give you copyright issues, but a spiritual successor hehe
upbeat agate
whats a Spirtual ?
deep glen
"A spiritual successor, sometimes called a spiritual sequel, is a product or fictional work which is similar to, or directly inspired by, another previous work, but does not explicitly continue the product line or media franchise of its predecessor, and is thus only a successor "in spirit". "
upbeat agate
oh
well i would like to make the game openworld and have the same battel system coz that was cool
upbeat agate
that a nice scene
delicate lark
you need a more cold-hearted gpu
tulip orbit
I'm 20hrs into subnautica: beyond zero and I have no idea where to go or what to do. I'm lost in game too
delicate lark
I'm a few decades into life and I have the same issue there
cursive crypt
No, that's called colorist.
upbeat agate
@deep glen if i was to to remake the game how would i go aout getting hlep with it
deep glen
first you'd need to show a solid vertical slice probably, then either pay people, or see if people are willing to help.
basically, if you want people to help you, you gotta prove to them you could do it yourself
upbeat agate
well this is what i have done
deep glen
now its just a matter of going at it, day by day
upbeat agate
ya
i canna wish some one would be willing to help even tho im still laerning unreal
cursive crypt
Who does not want help with his game? lmao
fathom wadi
Wanna know a secret? Even if you know a bit about everything, can produce work so people know that YOU know your stuff, and it's still hard to find people to help you work for free.
upbeat agate
ya
pearl elk
I dont know my stuff
cursive crypt
Others know my stuff 💪
fathom wadi
I realised something. I am like a Pointer/Reference System. I pretty much went through as much of the Reference stuff as I needed to, and now I keep Pointers. A question comes up, the pointer goes to the reference, via google or stored in my memory. It creeps me out tbh. It's almost like we are computers, working computers, but with different physical and metaphysical attributes for the interfacing.
upbeat agate
lol
cursive crypt
That's how it was been. Pointers exist since the dawn of the human species.
fathom wadi
it's crazy how science maps genomes and figures out neural pathways and connections for manipulation, like some factory worker working on a PCB or a chip designer at Intel.
cursive crypt
Yes, we are close. Close to something bigger than us whom to serve.
fluid bloom
oh boy, forecast says it's gonna be +4 C on thursday and it is going to rain also
from -23 C to +4
in the middle of winter
😄
median wraith
so you want to see the final light scene ?
cursive crypt
Skies forgive me, but I think I'm gonna try one const_cast...
fresh heath
fluid bloom
I thought it's a game
pearl elk
Its actually a really good article
the headline sounds alot more negative than it actually is, its a proper critique
median wraith
well posted my thing on released to don't do spam
cursive crypt
You must also tell in the other channels that you don't want to spam.
median wraith
XDD
fluid bloom
@pearl elk I ain't gonna read it until I play the game 😄
median wraith
the people will complain with me because Train Yard don't exist, is Rail Yard, but hey is the original scene name, isn't my problem
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humble remnant
What is the problem? Just export and invert outside. Just don't use Photoshop an...
The entire idea is to have a centralized tool that generates an image ready for use, with no other programs needed
zinc matrix
dunno
median wraith
emissive
zinc matrix
@median wraith ue4 gi i very bad bruh
median wraith
actually that scene is taken from the engine I made a branch 5 years ago XD
and it had GI
based on LPV
there you go 2014 open source engines with realtime GI
250FPS on 970GTX
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but no PBR
LPV you know are limited
have to say the Crytek new voxel solution is kinda decent
actually Godot have 3 GI solutions @gloomy badge
Distance Field based
and other 2 I don't remember the names
fluid bloom
does godot have occlusion culling nowadays?
pearl elk
I wanted to write a GI system but I gave up and wrote a game instead
its called... I can have fun without GI
its a gripping tale of a young gamer with very high standards who eventually comes to the realisation they enjoy gameplay more than graphics
fluid bloom
GI Joe game
foggy path
it just worked at 13 fps when I tried it in my relatively simplistic scene... but on a non RTX card :P
trying to do a day night cycle without that seems like such a gigantic pain
dynamic light quality is just really terrible inn comparison to baked lights
pearl elk
GI has never been a low end feature tbh
foggy path
yeah, it's reasonably straightforward for outdoor areas but indoor areas is like yeah gl hf :D
especially if you also would like to have stuff like toggleable lights
pearl elk
I love these edge cases theyre always backed by megacorps
you know what Nintendo did when MS offered to purchase them, laughed them out of the room
foggy path
Did MS actually do that lol
pearl elk
I mean its not like Breath of the Wild is designed by one of the most revered designers or anythin
so sure anyone can do it 😛
Rockstar made Read Dead 2, Im sure I can do it too
median wraith
does godot have occlusion culling nowadays?
Have frustum but I think don't have culling, I added myself to the engine LODS
Zelda just have light probes @gloomy badge
median wraith
Use the ibls then or the marketplace thing is the same
pearl elk
the thing with Unreal Engine is its general purpose, you cant design specific system interactions because maintaining all those interactions becomes a drain on productivity
so its easier to swap specific solutions out for more general which work in a larger number of use cases
fathom wadi
its not general purpose if you de-modulise it. It comes with too much stuff that makes it a GP software, but it's never needed, so just remove it until you hit your purposeful setup. There needs to be more of a web approach to downloading the engine this way.
pearl elk
if Epic had every GI method known to man there would be a huge number of artifacts from the issues with system interactions which wernt considered
when these systems were designed, such as Breath of the Wilds consideration was only given to the subset of features within that engine, where Unreal Engine would have to consider a superset of all possible future features as well as current
median wraith
The problem is epic don't have a single method
pearl elk
its basically like writing an album not a song\
median wraith
But rt one