that's the human ratio
#lounge
cursive crypt
It's a bit more complex than that ๐
primal spoke
WTH was Sega Saturn thinking when they made this commercial ๐คฃ :
fluid bloom
@primal spoke what's wrong with it?
primal spoke
You really have no idea what is wrong with this picture of the Sega Saturn Commercial:
fluid bloom
for fuck's sake just say it
normal prism
for fuck's sake just say it
You sure you can't see it?
fluid bloom
I give up
normal prism
Just look closely
cursive crypt
yo, I want to know too, but don't read minds
normal prism
I'm pretty sure dean and eightball are taking crazy pills
Accurate, but that has nothing to do with this ๐
fluid bloom
what is "this"
normal prism
You really have no idea what is wrong with this picture of the Sega Saturn Comme...
This
cursive crypt
Maybe guys are just trolling ducks like us ๐คทโโ๏ธ
fluid bloom
I vote banhammer
fluid bloom
well the ad is pretty weird https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyv6ZehQyTQ
primal spoke
I sure hope not
normal prism
well the ad is pretty weird https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyv6ZehQyTQ
The 90s were so glorious
primal spoke
man it looks like a bunch Klan members in the audience.
fluid bloom
that's what you thought?
normal prism
^ the hats @cursive crypt, @fluid bloom
fluid bloom
maybe you ought to know that most of us don't live in the US of fucking A ๐
normal prism
Neither do I
primal spoke
lol
normal prism
But it's a very recognisable symbol
normal prism
Yeah
primal spoke
I don't live in a lot of places but cmon
fluid bloom
better not visit Spain ๐
primal spoke
The point was how could Sega be so oblivious to that?
I love coneheads, but put a white hood and a white robe on them and turn them around and voila.
cursive crypt
Wait, all that up was because they had these white/black hats?
cursive crypt
pfff....
fluid bloom
yea I think it says more about dean and eightball than of us ๐
cursive crypt
What is so interesting about the hats anyway? The white ones remind me of these racists clans up in USA... but that all.
primal spoke
does it tho?
primal spoke
What is so interesting about the hats anyway? The white ones remind me of these ...
๐คฃ
thats it
thats the whole point, and how could sega not see this?
cursive crypt
Tbh, I saw they remind me of them, but I see no relation at all.
cursive crypt
I mean, its USA history, does not mean the whole world should avoid white sharp hats
primal spoke
no, hitler got lots of his ideas from US, sadly
normal prism
GODWIN APPEARS ON THE SCENE
cursive crypt
They are funny with these costumes tho.
fresh heath
cone and rod
Eye cells are racist now
fluid bloom
yup
fresh heath
They're on the video screenshot above
fluid bloom
I think it just says something about today's mentality when the first thing that comes to mind is something that causes outrage
in general I mean
primal spoke
who is outraged?
fluid bloom
I meant in general
primal spoke
i think its hilarious sega was so stupid to put that in a commercial.
more funny than rage to me.
cursive crypt
Yes,... A very curious thing for example, is when I got old we were using that n-word which a taboo to use for black men... Around we don't have many of them and 99% people are using it w/o any second thought its insult. Its just how it stuck and is much shorter in our language to use i.e. convenient.
cursive crypt
oh... wait for few months, don't hurry ๐
primal spoke
Yes,... A very curious thing for example, is when I got old we were using that n...
more nuance surrounding that word usage.
its taboo to say a variant of the word, but a term of endearment is used for another variant.
cursive crypt
Ah, didn't knew there is a difference between the variants ๐ค
primal spoke
one ends in er the other ends in a
cursive crypt
So, the -er is not insulting?
primal spoke
the former is bad no matter what.
yes.
under any circumstance coming from whoever.
cursive crypt
Wait, you said the former, but that the -er
fresh heath
The primary word in Russian for black people is ะฝะตะณั (negr), by the way
primal spoke
They are two different words tbh.
cursive crypt
Here too! So that's the -er variant and that's fine as far I understand from 8balls
primal spoke
er is bad
cursive crypt
Ah, lol
primal spoke
no matter what
cursive crypt
That's what everyone is using around.
primal spoke
but like I said, they are two different words
cursive crypt
The latter, -a, is very unknown and only you can hear on movies.
primal spoke
-a is used in a friendly way by some.
er is never used by anyone in a friendly way.
normal prism
The primary word in Russian for black people is ะฝะตะณั (negr), by the way
Spanish also still uses it I think, I mean, to signify the colour itself.
primal spoke
the er is what those folks in that sega commercial would use. lol
cursive crypt
Well, I guess it's kinda USA thing again. We name all that who bear that colour, no matter their origin - America, Africa or wherever.
primal spoke
spanish, has negro for black
cursive crypt
That too, but this one however is a bit more disrespectful.
normal prism
Probably because it just has a negative history attached to it, right?
primal spoke
Probably because it just has a negative history attached to it, right?
what?
negro == black?
color?
cursive crypt
Yes
normal prism
No no, I know
primal spoke
in spanish
normal prism
But in English, it's viewed very negatively
Because of historical reasons
Which maybe don't play a role in Spain, in the same way
fresh heath
Negro denotes "black" in Spanish and Portuguese, derived from the Latin word niger, meaning black, which itself is probably from a Proto-Indo-European root *nekw-, "to be dark", akin to *nokw-, "night".
normal prism
Yeah
cursive crypt
There we go ^
primal spoke
niger is a country in Africa
normal prism
Similarly, in Suriname it apparently is a totally normal word too. Even used in an endearing way.
cursive crypt
Hence, nobody thinks around its an insult.
I think even in the Wiki there was something about the scientific term.. let me see.
primal spoke
yeah, but etymology is tricky
and trying to be cute just because the etymology of a word says one thing is bad form.
Take the G and a and y word for example.
its etymology communicates it means happy or something like that.
but that is not what it means today.
cursive crypt
I don't know for which words you even talk about.
primal spoke
etymology
don't justify using a slur because of etymology.
word meanings change over time, whether we like it or not.
normal prism
I don't know for which words you even talk about.
The word gay arrived in English during the 12th century from Old French gai, most likely deriving ultimately from a Germanic source.[2]
In English, the word's primary meaning was "joyful", "carefree", "bright and showy"
I think we can name the word, it's not like it's a bad word in and of itself ๐
Voldemort!
primal spoke
" "joyful", "carefree", "bright and showy""
cursive crypt
Duh, well, I suppose all is context dependant. Culture, history, relationships, whatever...
normal prism
Duh, well, I suppose all is context dependant. Culture, history, relationships, ...
^ Million dollar answer
primal spoke
umm
cursive crypt
If it was only true ๐ฐ
cursive crypt
Yeah, man, sorry. You heard that outside of certain places in the world it is fine and nobody means it as bad.
primal spoke
it has never been good at anytime since its creation.
normal prism
See, I dunno, is it? I saw an interview years ago of a black Surinamese woman, explaining that in their culture, it's not viewed like that at all.
Certainly, in our cultures it has gotten that way
I agree there
But I'm not sure we can extrapolate to all. It's hard to speak on behalf of another culture.
cursive crypt
Well, as someone said up, meanings change. Probably you are right to avoid it, but I don't think it will happen like that.
primal spoke
See, I dunno, is it? I saw an interview years ago of a black Surinamese woman, e...
suriname
what is the language of suriname?
officially?
normal prism
Papyamento I think
primal spoke
ok who colonized suriname?
normal prism
We did ๐
primal spoke
who is we?
normal prism
The Dutch
normal prism
We have the equivalent
primal spoke
so how can a suriname person say the er word with two gg's is anything?
its not even a part of the vocab
normal prism
Clearly, it is
primal spoke
no its not
normal prism
Just because it isn't written the same, doesn't mean it's not in the language.
Things get integrated from others. We have an equivalent word, same in meaning and gravity.
primal spoke
it was created by slave owners in the US
cursive crypt
erm, lol, no
primal spoke
it was created....bad.
cursive crypt
That word has older roots.
primal spoke
two gg's and an er is uniquely US slave owner
normal prism
That word has older roots.
^
normal prism
two gg's and an er is uniquely US slave owner
False
The earliest known published use of the term dates from 1574
With gg and all.
Correction: Spelled with 1, but the same word etymologically
cursive crypt
And if you go dig, I think it comes from old greece or something.
primal spoke
link please, if it has bad words in link dm me then
cursive crypt
Just saw it somewhere..
primal spoke
~~With `gg` and all.~~
Correction: Spelled with 1, but the same word etymologica...
lol!
thats what I'm saying, its a uniquely bad word created by US slave owners
primal spoke
no...its not
the word was never created to objectively define someone
it was created to demean, insult, etc.
uniquely
cursive crypt
Hmm.. no, before that as I see it, it was just used as kind of describing something black, dark or of such shade.
cursive crypt
Then, much later, USA got that situation.
normal prism
The wikipedia reads as if in that time, it still had many different connotations, not all derogatory
primal spoke
they made a new word derived from an old one that has another meaning completly.
normal prism
I can't find a citation that says it was exclusively bad ๐ค
cursive crypt
Okay, so you make difference between "gg" and one or what?
primal spoke
two gg's with an er ending.
normal prism
Okay, so you make difference between "gg" and one or what?
I think this is the essence of the whole argument
I even see gg, ur. So many historical variations.
primal spoke
it changes the whole meaning
cursive crypt
Ah, I see. I think we just talk about the roots of that word, not that exact form of it.
primal spoke
exactly
cursive crypt
Or that particular use case in USA's history.
cursive crypt
Point is, if we look at pronunciation, there is no difference here between that USA word and say something more in general, from other roots ๐ค
fresh heath
primal spoke
Point is, if we look at pronunciation, there is no difference here between that ...
I don't follow
normal prism
The thing is though, we have an equivalent word that is available in Dutch that carries the same negative connotation (though admittedly, somewhat less strongly, but it's totally not PC). Which I was speaking to. It behaves very similarly to the English variant.
And it was this specific word that the woman explained felt totally ok to them, even though here, in the Netherlands, it wouldn't be.
cursive crypt
Well, your gg -er word is kinda used here as general term. Has nothing to do with the situation over there.
primal spoke
yeah man
if thats the case, you need to educate some folks on using that exact word
it is bad
double g with a hard er is terrible
normal prism
if thats the case, you need to educate some folks on using that exact word
I need to educate a coloured person about their use of that word? (she was)
I mean...
cursive crypt
It's pronounced a bit different however. The accent on your side is on the iii, but not sure how to spell it here. My english is not so good ๐
primal spoke
pronunciation is important
normal prism
It's pronounced a bit different however. The accent on your side is on the iii, ...
Oh yes, for sure
cursive crypt
Ah, I think yes.
cursive crypt
Ah, that too. lol
normal prism
That too, is just culture specific
primal spoke
hard er like the english word water?
cursive crypt
Yep
cursive crypt
lol, here it is like "water"
normal prism
Got confused
primal spoke
if you are saying the word with a hard -er like the word water you are saying the terrible variant.
normal prism
I'm not sure you have that sound in English in the same way ๐ค
normal prism
if you are saying the word with a hard -er like the word *water* you are saying ...
Yeah
But that's english specific ๐
That's the point
primal spoke
if you are saying it with an uhh that can be used positively in some contexts.
but its very nuanced.
fresh heath
YouTube - YouChoob
primal spoke
well this blows my pronounciation out of the water
cursive crypt
Yeah, I think, this whole pronunciation and stuff is too hard to follow on. As I said, ppl mean it kinda like saying colour of skin and while most know the USA history, they don't see a connection.
normal prism
๐
normal prism
Yeah, I think, this whole pronunciation and stuff is too hard to follow on. As I...
Yeah
primal spoke
If you guys listen to some hip hop from the USA you will here the nuanced one
normal prism
Didn't they fire an italian the other day?
For doing that
A football couch or a referree or something
cursive crypt
I mean, USA + 1-2 are still using the Imperial system, lol. Oh, no, its called Freedom units, or something ๐
primal spoke
they will never say the hard er in a song unless they are making fun of bad people.
primal spoke
I mean, USA + 1-2 are still using the Imperial system, lol. Oh, no, its called F...
where are you from?
cursive crypt
Eastern EU
median wraith
@zinc matrix but what language that target ?
cursive crypt
Its cool, a bit different than the rest of EU. Much more Socialism
primal spoke
what country?
cursive crypt
Bulgaria dude, what's so specific to be about it?
primal spoke
Bulgarian split squats
cursive crypt
Huh? Thank dean, its cool around ๐
primal spoke
did they really originate there?
cursive crypt
I don't understand "squats"?
cursive crypt
Well, I never heard about it. True there is a lot of hiking and mountain runners around, lol
I was kinda too, but got an injury for this year ๐
normal prism
primal spoke
cursive crypt
Ah... I knew several athletes.
normal prism
I saw that @mossy nexus
๐๏ธ
primal spoke
Well, I guess we concluded with the wording.
yeah its safe just not to use it, tbh
if you don't want to offend anyone
mossy nexus
I saw that <@!347136582224183298>
๐๏ธ
wasn't me... a bad boy did it and ran away
cursive crypt
I guess you are right. But as I said, its too pop, we may need a loooooot of USA culture mixing to understand not to use it.
Keyboard gnomes!
mossy nexus
My keyboard is faailing.
it keeps andding in extra characters when I don't want them. I now no longer correct it.. too many too often
normal prism
Time for a new one
mossy nexus
yup. this is only 2 months old.
mossy nexus
Being returned soon ish
normal prism
How are the caves coming along?
mossy nexus
SShame as I really like the keyboard
it's getting there, I know I say that a lot but I've just about finished reducing the polycount on all the meshes, UVing and vertex painting them. Which means guaranteed no nasty sneak gaps of light, not even subpixel sized gaps.
I found that the original meshes haad errors in a few vertex, really really small errors that didn't show up unless in the right conditions. So had to scrap those and start over with them
Which is a good thing on the long run
full rover
it keeps andding in extra characters when I don't want them. I now no longer co...
older keyboards tend to last longer. I have a keyboard that is 10 years old and still working fresh
mossy nexus
mechanical?
full rover
yes
cursive crypt
Just to chim in: mech keyboards forever ๐ค
full rover
its A4tech
mossy nexus
Just to chim in: mech keyboards forever ๐ค
I'm new to mech keyboards, but damn! So much better than membrane
cursive crypt
It's whole new world ^^ There are also fan groups here & there. I think we even talked few times on that topic here.
normal prism
Which is a good thing on the long run
Agreed ๐
cursive crypt
I'm currently with Brown Cherries, before I was with Red ones.
cursive crypt
Oh, you like that typewritter ๐
normal prism
Brown is nice too though
Ideally I'd take one that is less clacky, but has the same tactile feel
Blue is quite heavy, you can feel it press & click
cursive crypt
I got pretty cool, demo board. It has all the switches so you can check what you like and demo it.
Buy one like these. I recommend.
normal prism
Yeah there's a silent variant, but I couldn't get it for the board I wanted
cursive crypt
Well, maybe you can solder them yourself, but... its a work ๐
cursive crypt
haha
normal prism
I'd burn off all my fingers
cursive crypt
No, no, its not so hard. I'm also not big expert, however after I replaced my mouse switches, I got more confident.
normal prism
Not so much about being hard, but it requires a certain level of fine motor skills
cursive crypt
Well, tbh, I always had such people around me too ๐
cursive crypt
Ah, I see... Well, maybe its not so scary ๐
Okay, I need to do some work, lol. Too much slacking.
mossy nexus
This keyboard is kaila Silver switches, low actuation and quite. for speed typing. so the fact I'm spending too much time correcting errors is annoying ๐
what's worse is Amazon don't have any replacements... so I have to find another one..
fluid bloom
oh keyboard talk?
ahem:
mechanical keyboards generally speaking suck ass ๐
I want my keyboards to be silent, low profile, short actuation distance and snappy actuation
mechanicals tend to be opposite of those
although I think logitech just released an outrageously expensive mech keyboard that is low profile and has somewhat quiet buttons
shame it doesn't have wrist support
mossy nexus
green and spiky?
fresh heath
I mean this kind of a christmas tree:
fluid bloom
I blame kids
cursive crypt
@fluid bloom blasphemy! :D
Red switches are quite fast and silent, however they are not snappy/toggling, they are linear. In general though, no mech switch can be as quiet as some rubber cap. They are from hard materials and they clash. Maybe there are already some cushioning designs, but I'm not aware. I got reds before, that shit can trigger when a fly lands on it. It's for action gamers.
fluid bloom
<@!283940114252693504> blasphemy! :D
Red switches are quite fast and silent, how...
nothing mechanical is silent compared to my k740 ๐
fresh heath
zinc matrix
is that
npc
or multiplayer
shit the UI looks good tho
omg PULSAR fallout weapon
fresh heath
It's a single player game
zinc matrix
tfw use all wart medicine and not get rid of single wart
my skin just grew back ๐
before i could burn the warts
fathom wadi
@zinc matrix grove st for life.
cursive crypt
@gloomy badge @zinc matrix you both must go to bed on time, lol. It's a hard requirement for staying alive and healthy ๐
limpid burrow
Is there anywhere on this discord I can try to find 2D artists to help me come up with and/or finalize current designs?
Like I know a lot of it is focused on either 3D or programming here
cursive crypt
@limpid burrow Did you really checked out the channels?
limpid burrow
Sorta kinda ๐ looking again to be sure right now
cursive crypt
look, look ๐
limpid burrow
To the job board I go lol
cursive crypt
Yep ๐
zinc matrix
My problem with map design
Is that i like things that r equal
So i would be placing things at equal distances and levels. Lol
carmine frigate
there are better places to look for 2d artists i think
like mayB photoshop or krita discord ๐
north torrent
2d artists are usually odd people...
fluid bloom
they're kinda bad
the structure of the site is worse than the old public UDK docs on udn
imo
also the UDK docs had way more text and were way more indepth
fresh heath
Are you logged in?
bold fulcrum
Launcher knows that you can code already, so it grays it out.
median wraith
XDD
I thought it had some C++, but is BP only
about the folders structure
I like to work with this done like this
but is easier to manage for bakups etc the entities as subfolders of Textures etc (the reverse)
normal prism
oblique sandal
Which method is more efficient? Working all day but getting distracted by watching youtube and stuff throughout the day. Or working for a few hours straight without any distractions?
normal prism
I'm not sure that's going to be the same answer for every individual, I bet there's variation in the way people work. What works best for you?
oblique sandal
Probably working a few hours straight cause otherwise I just keep going on social media or getting distracted thinking I still have the whole day to get work done
normal prism
Same for me
I think there's a "working in stretches of 20minute" regime as well
Pomodori?
*Pomodoro
I'm similar to yourself, I can't stand constant breaks
Breaks flow
oblique sandal
yeah, I feel like 25 minutes is a bit short, probably gonna do 30-40 minutes
Thanks
normal prism
True
I can hardly work without something in the background to give some static to my brain ๐
Music, a show, something.
oblique sandal
Problem is that I'm not doing something interesting to me ๐ฆ I'm working on a graphics overhaul and once I get through that, I can get back to programming which I have no problem working on
normal prism
Listening to podcasts while doing routine work might help, but it might require too much brainpower at the same time
Can also conflict ๐
oblique sandal
I put on some music
fresh heath
north torrent
I like how they pretend that YouTubers have journalistic integrity to begin with.
carmine frigate
cant believe Nvid Pr dept thought that was gunna work
u put pressure on a media channel that gets best material from stuff like this
north torrent
Can't fight the cool hip trend of pretending that AMD is relevant.
fluid bloom
Santa has had enough, sliced his wrists https://i.redd.it/n601q8tcws461.jpg
carmine frigate
should just play doom on that
north torrent
All these YouTube channels have being doing recently is telling everyone 'Your current GPU is obsolete, watch us compare this GPU you can't buy anywhere with this other GPU you can't buy anywhere'.
carmine frigate
they also still sell 2080ti for old prices ๐
north torrent
Nvidia doesn't need tech YouTubers to hype their products.
There are already more people trying to buy them than they can make.
humble remnant
Nvidia essentially said "You don't like our opinion of our product? Too bad"
Not like RTX will be of any importance for gaming for a while anyway
north torrent
Raytracing is life.
humble remnant
Until Red Faction-esque complete world destruction is the norm, RT is a gimmick
Raster already imitates the effects gotten from RT to such a degree that RT isn't worth the drop in performance
north torrent
Advancement takes a lot of work, money, and time.
The world doesn't need YouTubers who aren't on board with that.
humble remnant
Tbh other YTers have said the same thing
The thing that Hammer On Box does that fewer YTers do is the cost per frame graph, and AMD clearly dominated that one
At least for raster and the average
fluid bloom
red faction?
north torrent
Basically every YouTuber ever has said "Your old 2000 series card looks silly now, you really need to get this new Nvidia card nobody has or this new AMD card nobody has, otherwise you are a fool."
fluid bloom
I hope you're talking about the real red faction ๐
north torrent
So basically, all those YouTubers can go to hell for all I care.
humble remnant
Hammer On Box has been quite honest with the reviews, though they stick to gaming a lot
I myself use RT for some production and it's good enough at least for movie recording in UE4 on a 1070Ti
Albeit the humongous performance drop
But for a game, the difference in visual quality is negligible until the world is 100% dynamic
north torrent
I think the difference is certainly worth the price difference between the AMD cards and the Nvidia cards.
humble remnant
If you need the RT, sure
But I'm more compelled to buy a 6900XT since it's 500$ cheaper and will suffice for my production workload just fine
north torrent
Everyone needs raytracing. Raytracing is life.
The 6900xt looks like a horrible deal compared to the 6800 in the same exact lineup...
humble remnant
Come to think of it, yeah
6800XT looks better since it also has 16 GB
But either way
north torrent
Basically, the only GPU that looks good right now is the RTX 3060ti.
If that doesn't fit what you need you are better off waiting.
humble remnant
I need more video memory and Nvidia offering 10 GB for more $ than a 6800XT doesn't look attractive
north torrent
Stop watching stuck up YouTubers and enjoy the 1000 or 2000 series card you currently have.
Nothing available right now is worth buying.
humble remnant
That one is true too
I've been looking on a bargain for 1080Ti recently, hoping to barter my 1070Ti and some cash for one
carmine frigate
thats an unlikely deal
north torrent
I feel sorry for the people who got an 8gb RTX 3070 or 10gb RTX 3080...
The 3070 was made obsolete already by the 3060ti... and the 10gb on the 3080 is just disappointing, and a 20gb version will be on sale before stock of the 3080 10gb is available...
humble remnant
Yeah, 30-series buyers got bamboozled
But again, if I was in the market for a gaming GPU that can also do production, AMD would be my choice
And you can always make the point of waiting
"Why buy a 3080Ti if the 4080 is right behind the corner"
"Why buy a 3080 if the 3080Ti is coming soon"
north torrent
RTX 3070ti and RTX 3080ti is going to be the real cards worth buying.
Or the 3060ti is also a good deal. Pretty much almost what the RTX 3070 is... sigh...
humble remnant
For 100$ cheaper
north torrent
I don't view AMD as even an option on GPUs.
carmine frigate
i usually buy medium tier card but more often, that smack of cash for that lil extra perf
humble remnant
I actually called in other discords that AMD will most likely try to fit in prices that Nvidia doesn't cover, and that happened particularly with the 6900XT
Though I'm not in a hurry
carmine frigate
there is no such thing as futureproof ur pc
humble remnant
Truly
The GTX 780 was a good deal tho
Even to this day, it's good enough for most games
north torrent
I was never planning on buying a GPU this generation in the first place. I upgraded my CPU this time around and will do GPU next time around.
carmine frigate
if u buy a pc for 2k more so it wil last 5 year instead of 2 ur makin a wrong buy
just use that 2k after 2 years and buy a new mid tier
humble remnant
I got my PC in February but sticking to the bleeding edge of tech isn't particularly smooth
north torrent
If money is a concern just get the RTX 3060ti. Hands down the winner for price to performance.
humble remnant
I've been running out of video memory in some RT scenes with higher complexity
north torrent
But when you are a game developer price isn't always the main concern.
humble remnant
Unless you're on a budget, obviously
carmine frigate
well AMD is usually perf king on mid tier so wil be interesting to see mid tier AMD cards
north torrent
There are too many cases where games or software are no properly optimized for AMD for me to even consider it.
humble remnant
Because Nvidia pays everyone to optimize for them
fathom wadi
thats always been the case. Nvidia. It's the way it's PAYED
humble remnant
It's how they shoehorn in every gimmicky piece of tech
north torrent
Paying people to do work. I wish my boss did that.
carmine frigate
my RX580 gets more stable FPS on fortnite than a friends 2080ti
thats 200$ card VS 1600$
humble remnant
Never forget the TressFX case in Tomb Raider 2014
fathom wadi
I've been running CP2077 in 2k res + Ultra settings on everything that can, getting 60fps on a 1080ti. Worst drops are to 40fps which just undercuts my GSync by a frame, but I don't mind as it doesn't happen too much. The rest of the time it's smooth as butter.
carmine frigate
after a few games his card stats having fewer dips tho, and the average is higher, but not by that much
humble remnant
I still haven't played CP2077 but seeing the amount of bugs people experience, I don't think I'm losing much
fathom wadi
Ive only played the intro section so far. Waiting on patches
north torrent
If I can't play it with full raytracing, then why bother playing it all?
carmine frigate
well u could be playing it on a PS4
fathom wadi
honestly I have that feeling too. It doesn't look terrible without it though
humble remnant
CP is like a prime example of RT being too early in
The raster looks good enough but gives 2-3 times more fps
fathom wadi
I wonder how the RTX performs with a low res and DLSS 2.0
humble remnant
Control is one game where RT makes it look a ton better
Though that's due to the amount of reflections everywhere
fresh heath
zenith tulip
Yo what does it do exactly?
mossy nexus
Cyberpsychosis? It messes you up. Big Time.
zenith tulip
Oh well I was asking about the machine but yeah I have no clue what cyberpsychosis is either lol.
remote brook
Was just killed by a pair of pliers in CP2077. Doing normal stuff, looking for loot, jumping around and climbing shelves for the hell of it. I bump a pair of pliers on a shelf and its crazy physics sent me flying 200 miles to drop to my death, fun stuff, haha.
fresh heath
Cyberpliers are scary
proud pier
Haven't played it, it's free though, about an hour content. What I thought was funny and troll were the character names.
gilded vigil
Cyberpunk IRL for just 400 dollars
without the game breaking bugs, that is
carmine frigate
@proud pier looks kinda allright for an hour, i kinda like all the purple
would like it more if it had lower fps anims i think
proud pier
Don't think it's my 2nd solo, but def the first in awhile
carmine frigate
couldnt down it 5 mb? ๐
or was that unzipped, allways forget that
@proud pier i press play and have to lt cdel cuz its stuck...
ill try again
it starts up oculus and freezes
zinc matrix
they're kinda bad
makes you wonder how people learn ue if the docs r so bad
carmine frigate
@proud pier I have to disconnect my headset if i wunna try it, mayB another time
proud pier
@carmine frigate lol. Yeah, I need to take a day sometime soon and fix up all the audio issues (whatever I can)
Also some gameplay balance
carmine frigate
next time do that thing so it wont boot up in VR
proud pier
Ah yeah, I meant to disable all unused plugins in the beginning
carmine frigate
yea, u wont notice it if u dont have it plugged in
zinc matrix
WIT GREAT PWOER COMES great responsibility!
the most hated quote on the planet
Hello guys, could you tell me a good beginner tutorial for character sculpting in blender?
Ok Iโll watch them thx
stoic turtle
Anything new about unreal vs apple thing? Is it a big loss for us developers ?
carmine frigate
nah indies basically won allready
aplle dropped to 10% fee for under 200k or something like that
or 15%
so that a win for like 90% of IOS devs
well 100% but the really big ones not so much
that 15% is huge for a lot of ppl tho
yea
15% pay raise
stoic turtle
But what if apple then bans all unreal apps
carmine frigate
seems like an unlikely scenario, but im no lawyer or expert on this stuff
like apple is gunna take 15% of the sale on every UE4 game on IOS, epic gets 5 most and usually nothing
stoic turtle
Ya of course but , i mean if it happens is it a big loss for us or android can do the job
carmine frigate
either way apple makes more money on every UE4 game sold than epic does
fresh heath
It's not just fermions and bosons anymore: https://www.discovermagazine.com/the-sciences/physicists-prove-anyons-exist-a-third-type-of-particle-in-the-universe
alpine fern
calm badge
fluid bloom
๐
mossy nexus
mossy nexus
Neutrinos pass through matter very easily, most of the time they just fly through everything. Getting "pictures" of them is ridiculously hard.
cursive crypt
These are like Colombian soap operas
median wraith
lol
fresh heath
cursive crypt
It's fine. You can see the logic.
mossy nexus
That's pretty cool. Some nice ideas for monsters ๐
thorny dock
testing testing
google is down, can't send any messages, see you all in the new world
oh there they go
cunning geode
Discord uses Google Cloud Platform
But Google Services are down. Youtube, GDrive, GMail,
median wraith
people claims youtube is down
but works for me
yeah I'm in
in other hand Discord is working like trash
oblique sandal
What country are you in? It doesn't work for me
fresh heath
Twitter
median wraith
@normal prism that's a cow, how are you sir
normal prism
I couldn't find a bull ๐ข
median wraith
๐
normal prism
Forgive me!
normal prism
priorities ๐
fresh heath
My message got sent twice, weird
fresh heath
I deleted the second copy
normal prism
Oh ๐
fresh heath
carmine frigate
thats nsfw
carmine frigate
median wraith
this dirty minds
fresh heath
normal prism
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eoug19ZVQAk-g8V?format=jpg&name=900x900
I feel deeply connected to this magnificent ornament.
median wraith
XD
@zinc matrix I don't think the person that ask me such things and act like that is the one I'm looking for ๐
The experience tells me
carmine frigate
damn thats some high standards ๐
median wraith
puahaa
fresh heath
fresh heath
Such a cool looking plane https://twitter.com/DARPA/status/1338501411009683465
soft night
Titanfall 7
median wraith
so in Cyberpunk someone wrote in spanish
a famous sentence that references the final product isn't the one promised
LOL
and tbh someone did it on on The Division too but on different topic
soft night
median wraith
people is saying in the forums that they didn't even hide the fact the game is bad as is printed in the walls
XD
fresh heath
Twitter
median wraith
oh cool
fresh heath
carmine frigate
fresh heath
While Vin Diesel will lend his acting talents to Ark II, he is also a massive fan of the franchise, now serving as an executive producer on the gameโs sequel and having logged over 1,000 hours in Ark: Survival Evolved
Whoa
proud pier
Ark II, based on UE5 Shootergame2.0
zinc matrix
but ue5 not out yet
fresh heath
Not for mere mortals
mossy nexus
Is it out for Meerkats?
silent shadow
sorry if stupid question, why can't I see any Job Board posts?
real palm
inb4 UE5 ships with DinosaurTamingGame @proud pier
fresh heath
rose tulip
Quick question, if I could fall into the sky, do you think time would pass me by?
fickle oriole
@rose tulip You need sleep... or i need sleep.
I just found out UE4 got sculpting tools built in. Uninstalling blender!
median wraith
@fresh heath bet only the Windows edition does ?
The Java one uses an external lib that acts like bgfx
fresh heath
<@!177852770488025088> bet only the Windows edition does ?
Yeah, it's the Bedrock Edition that uses it
normal prism
carmine frigate
that thing is huge
normal prism
Sure is!
And it's not even final form
You're only seeing the top part, the second stage
fresh heath
It's such a shame that the Energia was left to rust when the USSR crumbled
normal prism
why is named Energia ?
Its name is derived from Sergei Korolev, the first chief of its design bureau, and the Russian word for energy.
median wraith
uh
median wraith
that have a bit of dust
fresh heath
The hangar collapsed on them
normal prism
Could say that yes ๐
normal prism
The hangar collapsed on them
Fuck, man ๐ฆ First arecibo, and now you tell me even Buran was lost?
2020 keeps on giving
fresh heath
It happened a long time ago
carmine frigate
thats a few billion there collecting bird shit ๐
fresh heath
Buran completed one uncrewed spaceflight in 1988, and was destroyed in 2002 when the hangar it was stored in collapsed.
median wraith
Well technically isn't a bad year, it just we focused on bad things @normal prism
every year is bad on their way
normal prism
Nah, I would be willing to say this is a pretty fucked up year
carmine frigate
could be worse
median wraith
the only reason you could says that it's because the virus
actually dead more people each year from sexual diseases
normal prism
People are separated from loved ones, are losing family members, and their livelihood is in jeopardy. It's not just the virus, it's everything that it destroys in its wake.
carmine frigate
if covid was about as deadly as sars there would be total collapse of society
median wraith
there is people that lost loved ones years ago and live alone and now when others live the same is a drama while nobody cared about these
normal prism
I'm not sure I can follow that line of thinking
median wraith
Last time I read some stats about global things claim about the 80% of the american population is single, if you add to that the fact that a lot of people don't even have parents or close family it goes better
the 2020 problem is the people that have 25 familiars and can't see them one year
such a drama
meanwhile they gave a shit each year about them and maybe only paid a visit to them once per year
Maybe we should check whats going wrong over all
deep glen
family aside, the financial situation is rather shituation
median wraith
yeah the virus helped to camo something worst than 2008
carmine frigate
i didnt notice the economic groth last year and im not gunna notice the economic shrink this year
deep glen
sadly I do hehe
median wraith
don't worry the vaccine made in 8 months will be released soon
the people that preordered a game that has been made for 8 years wants it the first ones too
delicate lark
not sure which should I pick, the russian vaccine or the chineese one
from what I heard they give you different superpowers
normal prism
No way the Chinese and Russian vaccines will be allowed on the EU market
carmine frigate
chinese wil have tracking chips and russian wil breainwash you to love putin
id go with russian one
delicate lark
both Chinese and Russian vaccines are under tests right now in my country and we are in eu so there you go
median wraith
you can see he with good eyes and sexier ? @carmine frigate
normal prism
id go with russian one
median wraith
actually they are having problems with the vaccines and alcohol I read somewhere ?
delicate lark
I think we bought like 5 different vaccines and there are still arguments if people should be able to choose or not lol
I don't think they will allow it at the end
normal prism
I think we bought like 5 different vaccines and there are still arguments if peo...
I sure as hell would want to
median wraith
Now the thing is if you get the vaccine you don't know for how much it will stand
aren't confirmed or verified
so maybe in 2 months ends the cycle
delicate lark
thing is, if they allow to choose, nobody will choose Vaccine Putyin
median wraith
how dare you
normal prism
thing is, if they allow to choose, nobody will choose Vaccine Putyin
Whereabouts are you in the world?
carmine frigate
close enough his tanks can get here within a week
delicate lark
next to Ukraine so technically russia is too close ๐
normal prism
Within the EU?
median wraith
EU is part of russia
normal prism
๐
delicate lark
most neighbor countries of ukraine is eu member
median wraith
Let me tell you a fun fact
there is people from my main and close hospital
that works as medic for it
were in the first wave
normal prism
most neighbor countries of ukraine is eu member
I ask because I can't see the EMA approving the Chinese/Russian vaccines.
median wraith
now that person uses Tinder and date 2 different individuals per week giving a shit
despite gave positive
delicate lark
do they have to do? ๐ค
normal prism
Pretty sure, yes
median wraith
yeah they have to pass the control
the Russian one didn't even finish the test
isn't it ?
delicate lark
median wraith
now that person uses Tinder and date 2 different individuals per week giving a s...
and sadly this isn't even a joke
median wraith
I don't think they even applied
I mean the generic vaccine controls
normal prism
https://www.euronews.com/2020/11/23/coronavirus-hungary-to-test-russian-covid-19...
That's interesting ๐ค
I mean, if there's any country that would break EU legislation, it'd be the Hungarian government. Sadly.
Granted though, I'm not aware of the specifics of the law & EU legislature as to how it applies to sovereignty over choosing these matters. But I believe the EMA has final say, as the regulatory body for the whole union.
carmine frigate
well russian scientists aint that bad, if europe can make a vaccin so can russia
normal prism
Russian scientists are top notch, that's not really the problem
But government interference and non-transparency is
delicate lark
yeah both china and russia suffers from that
carmine frigate
we have a bunch of stuff like that aswell
delicate lark
but Putyin got from that vaccine so it can't be that bad
median wraith
Germany and Spain hidde victims of the virus
at this point I have no clue of who is transparent
delicate lark
I think I will just wait for like 6 month to wait while the vaccines are tested in production 
delicate lark
production time was way too fast even for the western ones
normal prism
I think I heard +-August for "regular" folks
median wraith
People in "risk groups" first
tbh is the perfect plan, imagine you ship the first vaccines them all are wrong and cause problems, and the whole medics are gone by mid 2021
๐ค
what can be wrong
carmine frigate
ahh the great culling of the weak
median wraith
medics are set here as first risk group
well medics and all individuals working on hospitals
delicate lark
ahh the great culling of the weak
the virus was not strong enough, we need a vaccine to support it ๐
zinc matrix
guys
i been coding movement and gravity whole day
i did it 100 times before XD
kinda sad
but always will find reason
to recode
but my game will grow
i will never give up!
deep glen
https://i.gyazo.com/4a0be4cae2042ae5a08b2cef2f3f1ee0.jpg
text in CP2077
soft night
did you guys Tim tweet 2days ago?
sorry tweet is actually earlier but still https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1336612738622230530
Twitter
fresh heath
median wraith
How are dealing the amd gpus with raytracing
soft night
some on gamestack started to think that unreal engine might be also get C# support not just that plugin way
normal prism
https://i.gyazo.com/4a0be4cae2042ae5a08b2cef2f3f1ee0.jpg
text in CP2077
Whoa....
Makes me sad honestly
It had such promise
normal prism
some on gamestack started to think that unreal engine might be also get C# suppo...
How likely is this?
I'd be extremely giddy
fresh heath
Unreal should have a proper C API
Anyone will be able to make FFI bindings for any language they want then
deep glen
@normal prism its a great looking game, and im really liking the stories ive experienced so far.
just needs a loooot of bug fixing.
carmine frigate
when devs start writing that kind of stuff in ur game something is kinda messed up
red dead 1 got sabotaged by a bunch of temps ๐
median wraith
The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk launched on same consoles isnt it ?
So both have the same horse power
you can't make all these cars run with the same power of the horses
yeah it seems like the game is filled with messages from developers
there is a spanish tweet I just spotted
median wraith
be developer this days is a terrible waste
if you release in PC there are 5 platforms
plus 5 consoles out of PC
fresh heath
normal prism
Some really cool talent in poland
median wraith
No you mean
the less expensive country in europe to hire people
the terrible incomes
people working on Cyberpunk 2077 for 1000-1200โฌ month
unborn lotus
people working on Cyberpunk 2077 for 1000-1200โฌ month
I doubt that, Romania has better salaries than that in games
median wraith
well people that worked inside can relate
Romania right now is better than Spain and Poland in many things
the people used to make fun about Romania, now isn't that funny
comapnies here pay about that 1300โฌ month
whatever you're programmer, experienced programmer or artist or technical artist
1300โฌ per month where 900 to 1100 goes to the rent
there is always someone that needs the money
unborn lotus
๐ฑ that's crazy
median wraith
they sent me once an offer where it was 1300โฌ per month and I had to do a entry test of 50h aka a complete game
lel
unborn lotus
damn!
fresh heath
Twitter
quick schooner
hey, i have a random question: my mom only ever plays freecell... very casual gamer, i guess. ๐ does anyone know good games suitable for someone with such tastes? has to be very simple and without any time pressure
fresh heath
hey, i have a random question: my mom only ever plays freecell... very casual ga...
Bejeweled
quick schooner
haha, i bought here that a couple of years ago. doesnt that have time pressure? cant remember, she didnt like it though ๐ฆ but thanks @fresh heath
fresh heath
The main mode doesn't have any time pressure
quick schooner
k
fresh heath
Maybe she could try Portal
quick schooner
should probably be easier ... and 2d. and one of those infinitely replayable games, like freecell or bejeweled.
fresh heath
should probably be easier ... and 2d. and one of those infinitely replayable gam...
Maybe SpaceChem? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk8JwvtVs38
or Opus Magnum https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj689znjxpg
quick schooner
no, it would have to be a lot more casual than that. freecell is basically just sorting cards, with some looking ahead. i think she just likes to have something (almost) mindless to do while watching tv. ๐
fresh heath
no, it would have to be a lot more casual than that. freecell is basically just ...
In this case, I can recommend idle games: https://www.pcgamesn.com/best-idle-games-clicker-games-pc
I really liked the cookie clicker game during one of the Steam sales
quick schooner
thanks, i'll look into it ๐
fresh heath
devout lotus
Lmao How does it feel
carmine frigate
i still havent finished witcher 3, wasnt a big fan, the cinematics and story were kinda dope tho
yea think im around 8 aswell
think i like heavy stylized more, lipsync and micro facial expressions still aint good enough for realistic if u ask me
carmine frigate
looks like i can make cuberpunk 2078 ๐
think ill go make a Tpose ๐
nah my bug pose will be sitting Y
you can starve ur cpu and prolly make everything go flipnuts
cyberpunk mannequin
a style to live by
median wraith
that's with the lod reduction ?
carmine frigate
yea
median wraith
carmine frigate
cyberpunk workflow is fast
it has 150 trist, so u have to do some magic to make it run really bad
zinc matrix
if i buy something from usa and they don't ship to germany, the closest they ship would be uk, and then i reship it to germany, do i pay 2 times the vat/customs or just in germany?
delicate lark
if you buy something in the US
and you bring it home to germany
you don't pay VAT on it
zinc matrix
read the text again
the first
ehm yes. from usa to germany you pay vat
of course you pay
delicate lark
I mean you don't pay VAT when you move your shit from one country to the other ๐คท
zinc matrix
when it arrives in a counrry you do
delicate lark
you pay VAT when you buy shit
zinc matrix
not just buy
delicate lark
also god knows what the rules will be with UK from next year
actually this sounds more like a customs issue and not a vat issue so no idea, sorry
zinc matrix
custom ya
main ibex
Hello everyone! I'm new here, it's nice to meet you all. I've been dabbling in all aspects of hobbyist game design for almost a decade now (since I was a young teen) and I'm about to graduate a computer sciences program in college (programming).
I'm finally trying to dip my toe into making a real, actual game that I intend to have a "final product" of instead of just experimenting with different aspects of game design.
I'm currently having an issue with porting collisions of my Blender models over to UE4 correctly. Is there someone that can help me with that, or a specific channel I should post about it in?
fresh heath
main ibex
Thank you! I posted there already as well ^^
fresh heath
median wraith
We need an study for that seriously?
robust gulch
This is gonna be awesome when I get enough money for it
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/darker-nodes
fresh heath
oof
Hopefully there was no cheating, given that Quake II RTX was developed by Nvidia
north torrent
AMD has been shown across the board to fail at ray tracing. Not an isolated case.
dim ruin
You guys see this? https://github.com/nxrighthere/UnrealCLR
Still looking into it, but initial reaction is "this is fucking awesome"
megagrant recipient as well
ah, it's licensed under lgpl v3
is that the dogshit for commerce one or is that usable for a commercial game?
I'm assuming its not, otherwise I can't see Epic funding it with a Megagrant; it would breach the engine license
cursive crypt
.net lovers should be happy I guess ๐คทโโ๏ธ
lgpl is fine for whatever if you just use that project as prebuilt DLLs
dim ruin
yeah I was just reading up on it. It's fine for it. It's just to protect the project from hijacking.
I think I'm going to play with this plugin tonight. If it works well, that's cool as hell
foggy path
I'm mildly concerned my game uses too much VRAM lol
because it generates a lot of textures at runtime... not really sure what to do about it. They're around 1024x1024 but I could probably scale them down a bit without losing too much detail
dim ruin
@zinc matrix what game is it?
cursive crypt
If its procedural stuff, you can do with much less memory.
dim ruin
Oh I'm not looking to shit on it lol I'm genuinely curious
I love open world games and love seeing what people are trying in UE4
you can DM me it if you like
cursive crypt
huh.... Is it... empty game? lol
If you fill in this with junk as say in general games... that would be a lot.
dim ruin
I'm doing some last minute shopping and trying to find a good Unity 2020 paperback for my oldest son. There isn't much from what I'm seeing for 2020.
He's wanting to learn more 2D and the one's I'm seeing are more on the 3D and AR side of things
May have to get him one on 2018
damn lol
is it UE4 based?
ah nice
cursive crypt
Maybe it was just a project where... "lets stuff it", damn be clients.
dim ruin
tried googling it, can't find any that jump out and match that description
broken sigil
The game actually looks pretty good, seems interesting
median wraith
oof
Oh lord
We need dx12 VS Vulkan ray tracing perf
Where you picked that image from?
median wraith
cursive crypt
Guys need to survive somehow ๐คทโโ๏ธ
median wraith
that after turn off adblocker and check one after one the cookies
Epic Store games list were leaked
got almost them all xd
cursive crypt
games list leaked - what?
median wraith
tidal ivy
yeah, that list is obviously bollocks
most of those games aren't even on EGS, and no EA games are at all
verbal junco
yeah, that list is obviously bollocks
don't take away my dreams
fresh heath
Where you picked that image from?
median wraith
ty man
fathom wadi
I'd be gutted if that list of games was true. I have nearly all of em :p
fresh heath
mossy nexus
Season 5. The Expanse. Yay.
neon crystal
quiet narwhal
the link at the top of it should say
thre is nothing in it besides data so it treats it like that
fathom wadi
