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deep glen
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hehe

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you reported it? :p

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(so i dont have to deal with it in the future XD)

north torrent
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Solo game developers certainly need to have an eye for the scale of a project. You have to know what is reasonable and what is going to be beyond what a solo developer can do.

But I figure that if an idea doesn't work small, it would never have worked big even if you had the team and resources.

I quite enjoy focusing on a small number of mechanics for a game.

dim ruin
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I find that as a solo dev, the problem for me is there just isn't enough hours in a day

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so time management essentially is the major obstacle for me

north torrent
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Having a calendar and sticking to it is hard.

median wraith
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how the city park is taking in my end about 1h to open ? lmao

median wraith
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2h to load this still don't know whats going on

gray vortex
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where can i go if i need help?

cursive crypt
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Depends what kind of help, of course. Look for the channels on your topic.

gray vortex
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can i post here?

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i open my game mode blueprint but see a blank screen

lone grail
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You could read the #old-rules but also you can ask that in #blueprint, lounge is for general chatting so your question could get flooded out easily

gray vortex
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ok thanks

lone grail
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Np

north torrent
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You aren't going to get much help with a name like that.

fresh heath
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@lone grail I've just learned that Google has learning exercises for Common Lisp, they're neat: https://github.com/google/lisp-koans

lone grail
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Oh cool i'll check it out

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I'm gonna save it for whenever I'm gonna start learning it, I was actually deciding if I should learn Common Lips or Python

cursive crypt
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Learn Basic, 'coz... basic

lone grail
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I want somethings useful though

cursive crypt
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Good thought. How you gonna use Lisp or Python?

lone grail
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Python I wanted to learn machine learning, and maybe some data oriented stuff, Lisp I'm still not sure but it does seem like a very interesting language

cursive crypt
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Well, you see you learn stuff which look useful or interesting. Hence, I joked with Basic. I personally don't like it tho 😄 There are other very cool langs out there too 🤔

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Lisp is not so pop as Pyhton.

lone grail
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Yeah, I do want to learn something that could possibly lead me to a job as well as be interesting and fun

unborn lotus
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Again??

lone grail
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Is that the same one who spammed yesterday?

unborn lotus
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Not sure

lone grail
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🔨

fresh heath
lone grail
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iRobot like the movie? lol

fresh heath
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iRobot like the Roomba

lone grail
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It's how they start

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Gotta keep an eye on them

cursive crypt
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How it starts? Lisp is freaking old, lol

north torrent
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Who uses Discord on a phone?

cursive crypt
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Here o/

lone grail
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I use discord on a phone when I'm in bed or at work, else always on pc

north torrent
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I have nothing to say to that...

cursive crypt
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Trap!

north torrent
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pours another glass of vodka to deal with the ridiculous fact that people use Discord on phones...

lone grail
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Lol

cursive crypt
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So, its running headless?

fresh heath
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It's like HAL 9000

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Can probably also read lips lol

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2001: A Space Odyssey - Hal Reads Lips: Believing they're talking in private, Bowman (Keir Dullea) and Poole (Gary Lockwood) discuss disconnecting the Hal 9000 computer, but they don't realize Hal can read their lips.
BUY THE MOVIE: https://www.fandangonow.com/details/movie/2001-a-space-odyssey-1968/1MV1084bfd7ba551c6dcc2aef3d1b615b22?cmp=Moviec...

▶ Play video
lone grail
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My mind was still stuck on programming so I thought you said can probably read lisp lol

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that movie still looks great for its time

deep glen
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Anybody here kind enough to convert an mp4 to a transparent gif?

north torrent
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Is that even possible?

deep glen
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yea

north torrent
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Well, I personally don't know how.

lone grail
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What I do is convert MP4 to gif using a site and then put gif into a photo editing software and cut out what you want each frame so it has transparent background, I don't really have the time to do it but it's not terribly difficult just requires patience cutting out... unless there is an easier way 🤔 lol

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Usually I have ways to do things, then there is the easier way I am never aware of

humble remnant
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My way to do it is to edit in Premiere, applying the specific masking and whatnot, export as a lossless .mov and then import in Photoshop and export as gif

deep glen
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photoshop isnt adhering to the mask, and its export is atrocious for videos

humble remnant
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Depending on how used you get to editing, you can do that in a matter of 15 minutes

deep glen
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also, i no longer have a premiere license, and resolve doesnt seem to be able to do it

humble remnant
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That's a sad

deep glen
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wheres @forest sparrow when you need him :p

humble remnant
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I used some website to edit gifs before

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But it applies no compression whatsoever and the gifs end up either humongous or looking like minced buttcheeks

deep glen
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I tried around 20 different ones, none adhere to the mask

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or yea, crap results

lone grail
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I don't have premier, the only video editor I have is Acid pro but I havn't used it yet, it's from humble bundle lol

humble remnant
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I have a Vegas license but I hate it for anything that isn't a simple cut

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Doing montages in it takes me 10 times longer

lone grail
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Vegas is the one I have, acid is the music one I don't have lol

deep glen
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davinci resolve works fine, now that im used to it I dont miss premiere at all. (until I need to do a weird one-off)

humble remnant
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I avoid Davinci because if you don't have a GPU that supports OpenCL it just won't open

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And that's an issue if I want to render on my server instead of main PC

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Not really because of the GPU not supporting, it's a weird issue with the drivers

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So I'm sticking with Premiere

north torrent
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Why do you have a GPU that doesn't support OpenCL. That's the real question...

frosty halo
deep glen
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i make tutorials with it, so.. yea?

lone grail
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I hit apply when I change pretty much anything so I haven't noticed

zinc matrix
lone grail
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I'm stuck at a life decision, as I've been saying I have been wanting to learn a programming language outside of games and kinda wanna get a job coding but don't want to abandon my game and doing games is my passion 🤔 I just dunno

zinc matrix
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definitely coding games is the funniest type of coding there is

median wraith
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Unity store prices don't include vat what the hell

zinc matrix
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since when youre using unity hevedy

lone grail
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Yeah coding games is fun and good time messing around with stuff

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I'm just thinking because my current job is definitely not what I want to keep doing at my age, and I feel like I need to do something for my future, and making a game by myself and selling by myself is a huge gamble

zinc matrix
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definitely, most indie devs fail

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how many indie devs who make money on their solo projects you know

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i know theres notch, concernedApe...

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so thats 2...

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crazy...

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well if you like c++ and ue4 why not try to learn and look for c++ job?

lone grail
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I have a hard time with C++ and UE4, but no issues with BP's, I have a pretty easy time with C# in unity but not so much outside of unity

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Well the hard time I have in C++ in ue is the Ue specific stuff I guess

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Just learning more about how things are done in it specifically

zinc matrix
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you need to learn additional libraries/environments whether you choose c++ or c# if u want job

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im in same place tbh was looking for c# jobs and they require knowledge in some common frameworks

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to be honest i dont mind learning them but coding my game is way more satisfying lol

lone grail
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I was thinking of going over to python because I'm interested in the future maybe doing something with science and robotics and python is pretty popular in those industries

zinc matrix
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oh ok you like robots

lone grail
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I find them interesting and I definitely would like to learn more about the inside workings of them

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And I always have a keen interest in trying to invent or solve problems that haven;t been solved yet

zinc matrix
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well imagine coding your own AI robot and then it attacks you lol

lone grail
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Build it a touch sensor for emergency shut down between it's legs, kick it in the dick to kill it lol

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solve problems that haven;t been solved yet

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Ye see lol

zinc matrix
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oh ok theres pygame game library for python

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but its not good

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not as good as unity or ue4

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for me if i ever get a coding job it will prob be c#

lone grail
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I require 3D capability when making games, I just make games in 3D
C# is nice, one problem I have is I have to drive so far if I get any job in a game studio or coding job

zinc matrix
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game studio job is rare af i been fishing for one for half a year and nothing

lone grail
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If I do get into programming as a job I would like to end up in a place where I can help change or make great things for people not just software

zinc matrix
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c# job offers are more often

lone grail
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Yeah they also pay less than software dev jobs on average

deep glen
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pff
have to export each frame from resolve

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for some reason resolve doesnt like weird resolutions, so I have about 33% of empty space on each side of each frame

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then i have to import the tiff's into photoshop

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automated layer by layer

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now to crop it

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the adventure continues

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photoshop is importing them in inversed order

lone grail
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Noice 👌

cursive crypt
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I can quote you from up there "lets make some vfx, spends the day to fix a tool installation"

deep glen
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stupid tools are stupid

median wraith
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For some reason on forward rendering the alpha mask goes transparent

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by distance

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related with MSAA

lone grail
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I'm testing different perspectives with my game, I did third person originally but thinking top down sorta like Divinity original sin, it's a Magic based ARPG-ish game, top down could make some things easier perhaps, but I dunno

cursive crypt
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These are quite different perspectives.

lone grail
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Yeah

fresh heath
lone grail
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Nice!

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I edited the third person POV and really like how it ended up so going that route

zinc matrix
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lmao hevedy

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r u sure its highest quality

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in unity settings

median wraith
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Let me tell you

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this people sell packages with code shaders generated from other assets that are paid and have non readable generated code

lone grail
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In unity the editor scene view will never look like Game view especially with shaders

median wraith
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in game view looks exactly the same

lone grail
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That sounds like a problem then

cursive crypt
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The lightness is so uniform

humble remnant
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@north torrent it's on my server as a plan B, it's still decent for esports gaming but that's about it

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And it supports OpenCL

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AMD are just daft bastards that fucked up their drivers so it actually doesn't support it

zinc matrix
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eae ponkkis

cursive crypt
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Why I have to fix 3rd party commercial assets? Such... sloppiness. 😩

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@deep glen what is the goal of these noises? 🤔

deep glen
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detail in the flames

cursive crypt
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huh... they move? Ain't your source pic good enough?

deep glen
cursive crypt
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uh, I see, lol

deep glen
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^ my face after this endeavor

cursive crypt
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Familiar feeling 😄

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Wasn't easier to fix in PS?

deep glen
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ps's export gif bs is so ancient it has no place in 2020

cursive crypt
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rip

deep glen
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and its alpha channel --whatever-- runs on potato iq

cursive crypt
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Tbh, not sure which editor is handling these well.

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The gif formats, I mean.

deep glen
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after ue4, resolve (export as transparent tiff), and photoshop (tiff to png batching of files) i used an online png to gif tool that does a 100x better job than photoshops gif exporter

cursive crypt
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Stream that workflow

deep glen
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i rather shoot myself

cursive crypt
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Looks like if you drag & drop too many files in UE it crashes. Feature.

cursive crypt
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Is there something for 5-6 years old?

wise smelt
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wym

cursive crypt
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Huh? The what it has to do with art style then, lol

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Then it is not for me. My art style is like frozen in that age.

fresh heath
zinc matrix
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did anyone else get a dm from SErve?

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I tried to look in history to see who the person was cause I barely use this server.

deep glen
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@zinc matrix timestamp?

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because we warned him once already

zinc matrix
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9:50AM today

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4:26PM now

deep glen
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ah

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ok lemme check

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yea he was reprimanded for doing so around that time

stiff crystal
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I got new DM from Tomas Wood again trying to promote some gamedev channel

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but I don't see him even listed here anymore

zinc matrix
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ok cool luos

deep glen
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we banned him

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@stiff crystal

zinc matrix
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I figured you people were on top of it

stiff crystal
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ah, I won't miss him 😄

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I wonder what's the deal, like was it some bot

deep glen
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doing our best Jackie

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starting to think its a script yea

stiff crystal
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I mean who'd be stupid enough to spam same DM's to people who call you out

deep glen
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let alone how random they pick the people they spam

zinc matrix
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yeah like im the most random to pick

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I only pop in if my server and the game dev one i in are inactive

deep glen
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hehe. well let me know if it happens again please :)

zinc matrix
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I will.

deep glen
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or any moderator for that matter

zinc matrix
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Yeah that might explain it

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Hows everyone doing?

deep glen
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doing fine, grinding zeny in ragnarok online XD

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you?

zinc matrix
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Im doing alright just woke up

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Was checking all the notis I get

fresh heath
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"You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you."

fresh heath
humble remnant
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Goddammit

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I process them as sitting in the same spot and position

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I can feel the illusion

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Or it's not an illusion

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It ain't

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I've been lied to

fresh heath
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It's an illusion, just not the one you expect

zinc matrix
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|| hello ||

frosty halo
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the spikes ensure it grabs on better

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well when i add the spikes that is

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Always wanted to sculpt a Dune sandworm

zinc matrix
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oh talk about wow

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I honestly after I watch the fall of blizzard They are the only company I stay a million miles away from

frosty halo
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I loved tremors when i saw it first

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Anything "alien creature" or "sci-fi" and I'm there.

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Might rewatch that and starship troopers

fresh heath
humble remnant
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So TLDW

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Blender's TTD is much shorter

forest sparrow
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@frosty halo I assume you haven't seen my work late at night 😄

frosty halo
fathom wadi
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Now I'm a Blender fanboy but I never had any instance of 3dsm taking over 15 minutes to boot up. 60 seconds perhaps.

carmine frigate
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he is making the boat in 60 sec

unborn lotus
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Blender is cool and all but when I really wanted to use it in production I hit some snags. Like how sculpting feels great when you're testing but then performance drops when you're doing the actual work. 3ds is slow but every tool works as expected

frosty halo
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^you probably need a sicko CPU to really alleviate the sculpting thing until the devs pull their finger out and offload sculpting onto GPU accel

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Like a thread ripper or 3950x or something.

unborn lotus
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I have a 9900k 😆 i cant wait for 2.92, it does look better and better

fringe sundial
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@frosty halo nope, the bottlenecks are memory latency based, more cores or bigger cpu doesnt help

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will perform badly no matter what

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they also cant really put sculpting on GPU accel due to them only supporting opengl 3.3

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which has no compute shaders

plucky pagoda
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Anyone using Affinity Photo as a full replacement for photoshop?

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I'm trying to get rid of my Adobe Creative subscription when it's up and I've almost replaced most of what I use.

cursive crypt
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@frosty halo nope, Z is CPU based and is rocket tech compared

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@plucky pagoda I barely try to "extend" Gimp, lol

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It can't even remember the damn tool options you set and need to readjust for each doc.

plucky pagoda
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Never liked Gimp

frosty halo
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Useful to know about the bottleneck @fringe sundial and good point @cursive crypt. Could they not utilise vulkan in some way for sculpting? This could open up the GPU possibility.

fringe sundial
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no

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they dont support vulkan at all

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keep in mind one of the most important blender things is "3d for everyone"

frosty halo
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I know they don’t and it would need a rewrite. But I’m wondering why it couldn’t be done

fringe sundial
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this "everyone" also means middle of africa towns or poor indian people

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on shit pcs

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converting to opengl 3.3 for blender 2.8 was already controversial

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vulkan for "core" features is out of the question. Ive spoken to the devs about it

frosty halo
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Right, that’s fair, and I suppose the downside is that if they wanted backwards compat for this they need to now support OpenGL and vulkan with a switch.

fringe sundial
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they told me that they would love to use compute shaders for stuff, but they cant due to the low system requirements

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@frosty halo and then everything needs to be coded twice

frosty halo
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Yeah

cursive crypt
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I doubt the bottleneck is the graphic api, lol

fringe sundial
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its not

frosty halo
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No it’s not about the bottleneck

fringe sundial
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but opengl has some problems in the data-handling side

frosty halo
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At this point

fringe sundial
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if you could use vulkan, specifically compute shaders, you could do data transfers much better

frosty halo
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But I was just thinking of it in terms of why specifically open gl after the comment vblanco wrote

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And why not something g else.

fringe sundial
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a problem blender has right now, that is a fking huge problem, is when it converts the meshes for gpu usage after you modify them

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so the poly edit mode uses very complex data structures for the meshes

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this is so they can do stuff like extrusions, poly cut, etc

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the issue is that once you do an edit on the mesh, it has to refresh the GPU mesh

cursive crypt
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The problem is not lying there, I mean the slow sculpting. For example, the texture brush is badly designed and Blender chokes on a bit heavier projects, while say SubPainter flies.

fringe sundial
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so this polyedit mesh gets converted and flattened into a "normal" 3d model

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but this happens for the entire mesh

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every time

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and then the entire mesh gets reuploaded to gpu

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so if you have a 300k triangles mesh

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and move 1 vertex

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the entire 300k triangle mesh gets fully rebuilt into gpu-flat mesh

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and then uploaded to the gpu

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with vulkan compute shaders, they could execute some types of operations (for example vertex moving) as compute shaders

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so instead of having to turn edit-mesh into gpu-mesh and upload gpubuffers

frosty halo
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I did consider the direct to gpu memory feature as well, which is what NVidia said 3000 series support where you’re effectively bypassing the situation where any data going from ssd out into the gpu has to go through ram. The direct to vram transfer seems somehow applicable here

fringe sundial
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you calculate what you would need to change on the gpubuffers, and run compute shader

frosty halo
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Just theorising at this point.

fringe sundial
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@frosty halo that does nothing here

frosty halo
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Would it not?

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Damn

fringe sundial
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this is cpu to gpu stuff

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not ssd to gpu

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and the problem is that the transfers are huge when they dont have to

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due to reuploading the entire mesh which is a problem of opengl

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in compute shaders you can do stuff like just move whatever vertices moved and touch nothing else

frosty halo
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Sure, but didn’t we say above that ram is a factor atm too?

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I was more thinking about bypassing it

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Rather than ssd being any factor

fringe sundial
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thats the latency when converting edit-mesh into gpu buffers

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because edit-mesh is enterely linked lists

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its suuuuuuuuuper slow on high latency ram

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everything is a linked list there

frosty halo
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So are we saying that for the foreseeable - we can’t expect this to improve?

fringe sundial
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they are on it tho

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with tricks like splitting the mesh dynamically on blender internals

cursive crypt
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To me this looks like some more generic data design problem. Not that they don't have compute shaders or whatever.

frosty halo
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As in - blender won’t be competitive in sculpting for the next several years.

fringe sundial
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so for example, it splits whatever you have selected vs the rest of the mesh

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and then, instead of rebuilding the entire mesh, it rebuilds the zone affected by the edit

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@cursive crypt its indeed the issue

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i went to godot and made it 10x faster

frosty halo
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Kind of like what dynotopo does on the face of things?

fringe sundial
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but i went to blender and saw no way of doing anything

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because its already well optimized

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the issue is the entire data pipeline

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@frosty halo dyntopo is dog slow because it uses edit-mesh

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btw

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edit-mesh

cursive crypt
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Moving an entire mesh on each update? Nah... hard to believe.

fringe sundial
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and sculpt-mesh

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are different

frosty halo
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Sure but the effect I mean

fringe sundial
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and the limitations in sculpt mesh (cant cut polys) make it way faster

frosty halo
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Like you sculpt on an area and only that area with a falloff gets subdivided.

fringe sundial
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if you untick dyntopo in blender sculpt, you will find its like 100x faster

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@cursive crypt not moving, fully rebuilding it

frosty halo
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Hmm this is fairly complicated.

fringe sundial
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tho some of the most top tier blender programmers are at it

frosty halo
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As it should be

fringe sundial
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lol you dont know shit. Blender is actually incredibly complex internally

frosty halo
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So they ARE hoping to make sculpting better then?

cursive crypt
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Yeah... I see. Well, if they are working on that. We can just wait I guess.

fringe sundial
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they did @frosty halo

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already

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in 2.91 they made sculpting multiple times faster

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now, sculpting

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not polymodel

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and not dyntopo

frosty halo
fringe sundial
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it wont ever compete with zbrush

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zbrush doesnt even use the gpu...

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but i think post-fixes its already very fast

plucky pagoda
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ZBrush indie is fairly affordable, comparatively, and there's always sculptris.

fringe sundial
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and blender is free and more featured

plucky pagoda
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I like Blender, just not for sculpting

frosty halo
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So are you saying z is so fast because they got their data structures right off the bat and blender didn’t?

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In a nutshell

fringe sundial
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@frosty halo zbrush is entirely designed around sculpting

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everything internally is about sculpting

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a generic program that does everything cant compete

frosty halo
fringe sundial
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this also means 3dmax, maya, or houdini btw

frosty halo
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I know it sounds shitty of me

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And spoiled

cursive crypt
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Ah, love Z UI

frosty halo
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But I just can’t get over how schizo the ui is

fringe sundial
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right now blender biggest weaknesses are in edit-mode perf

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which is so hard to fix

plucky pagoda
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To each their own

fringe sundial
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and input/output

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blender export/import is on python

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turns out

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python sucks

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and its super slow

frosty halo
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It feels like it was designed by someone who’s got no idea what a good user interface should be

cursive crypt
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"turns out", lmao

fringe sundial
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ever tried to import a couple million triangle .obj into blender?

plucky pagoda
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Zbrush suffers from being designed originally for one thing and evolving into something else

fringe sundial
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couse ive actually measured a literal 100x difference

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between me opening obj files with a Cpp library

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vs blender

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on my code i can load stuff like 10 million triangle objs in a few seconds (depends on how fast the drive is)

cursive crypt
fringe sundial
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but on blender loading a 10 million triangle obj is not possible

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at all

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runs out of RAM at 32 gb of ram

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or takes literally forever

fringe sundial
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blender really needs to do a sort of c/cpp plugin API at least for data loading

cursive crypt
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@fringe sundial I heard they started to rewrite the I/O modules in native?

fringe sundial
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going through python for data load is insane

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@cursive crypt that was just a gsoc project

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so i dunno how it goes

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another thing is the edit-mesh thing

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thing is that when edit-mesh was written

cursive crypt
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Wait, do they don't have a C API ?!

fringe sundial
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for 2.6

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it took 4 years to be made

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thats when blender got ngons

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if yall remember blender didnt support more than 4 edges per face before 2.6

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but when edit-mesh core was created, it was created without much care for multithreading or more optimal data handling

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thus the linked list spam

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stuff like houdini or 3d max use systems a lot more interesting for that "core" data handling

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for example houdini treats the core data as a database

frosty halo
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Yeah so basically the consensus is - blender for sculpting isn’t happening to the point where you could do something really detailed.

fringe sundial
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and uses database type trickery

frosty halo
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That makes me sad

fringe sundial
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blender sculpting is completely fine up to multimillion level counts, so its fine?

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the problem is that edit-mesh goes to shit past 100k tris which is far too low

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keep in mind blender is a hybrid program. Its about jack of all trades

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you merge polymodel and sculpt and then some simulation for cloth or other trickery

fathom wadi
#

Blender is for the poor. It will always useful compered to a subscription

fringe sundial
#

blender is improving at an insane rate

fathom wadi
#

aye

fringe sundial
#

have you seen the 2.91 patch notes

fathom wadi
#

this whole conversation was fascinating btw

fringe sundial
#

and i thought the 2.7 era had insane stuff every couple months

plucky pagoda
#

Yeah, 2.91 is amazing

frosty halo
#

Well but it’s not though? If you remesh something at about 0.001 and try to sculpt it’s like your cursor is dragging a mile behind the mouse cursor due to lag

fringe sundial
#

then dont?

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if you want to run 30 million triangle sculpts then open zbrush

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in blender you just keep into mind that you have a few million triangles per object

plucky pagoda
#

But Zbrush is godly when it comes to sculpting and their remesher is insanely good.

fringe sundial
#

you can split your 30 million sculpt into sections and will be fine

carmine frigate
#

you can sculpt a 30 mil mesh in blender if u mask out 28 mil 😄

fringe sundial
#

yup

frosty halo
#

Lmao @carmine frigate

fathom wadi
#

press NUMPAD "." to zoom in 🙂

frosty halo
#

Ugh I really really wanted the blender thing to be what I use for really detailed sculpts

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I love blender

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Damn

plucky pagoda
fringe sundial
cursive crypt
#

The Search Bar is the most important for me

fathom wadi
#

Sculptor people seem to be appreciating the Blender updates from what I've seen. But then there are a lot of people who only use free software and this is kind of the first time we got something almost close to ZB right?

fringe sundial
#

this is coming for 92

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that good enough? they improved sculpt by like 3-4x

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(btw you can download that blender build) with the WIP faster sculpt

frosty halo
cursive crypt
#

Blender develops fast nowadays.

plucky pagoda
#

Is sculptris still free?

fathom wadi
#

I leave my steam updates on always for Blender, just because.

fringe sundial
#

from the twitter link

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you can have an overview of where blender sculpt is going to

plucky pagoda
fringe sundial
#

lmao fucking softonic

frosty halo
#

If I can get close to that level of detail (not necessarily that level of skill hah) I can at least be sure I can learn and develop my skills and my stuff will scale. Maybe not as well as in Z. But it can be detailed enough.

plucky pagoda
#

They redid sculptris so the newer version costs.

frosty halo
#

Thanks for the links guys.

plucky pagoda
#

Have to get the old one to get it free

frosty halo
#

I’ll watch those later.

plucky pagoda
#

at least I think that's what happened

fringe sundial
#

feel the competition of blender lmao

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autodesk is scared shitless

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because blender is a very serious threat in the gamedev and small scale stuff part

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blender cant compete with maya at movie-level scenes

plucky pagoda
#

I could see Blender cutting into a big chunk of the market for most of the others out there, but not ZBrush. It does what it does way beyond what anything else can.

fringe sundial
#

or to 3dsmax when handling very heavy polymodel

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but they can do fine on lower scale stuff

fathom wadi
#

Its an easy fix for them. 3dsmax drops to maya sub prices. I can live with that.

fringe sundial
#

lol autodesk dropping prices

fathom wadi
#

i know right :d

fringe sundial
#

bruh they have been doing nothing for 2 years

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like literally nothing

plucky pagoda
#

Maya just dropped a Maya Indie subscribtion

fringe sundial
#

but subscription so get money with 0 work

plucky pagoda
#

I'd love to see Autodesk taken down a few notches.

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Their pricing and licensing is brutal

fringe sundial
#

at the speed blender is going, if they fix the core internal perf/scaling issues, it will eat very seriously into autodesk

fathom wadi
#

yeah I quit my autodesk habit when I got 4K monitor and they wanted me to buy a completely new version or live with micro-UI and awful scaling.

plucky pagoda
#

Yeah, they have some crazy licensing only because they can get away with it right now.

fringe sundial
#

he is a man of sheer focus and will on making blender better to sculpt anime girls with it

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all the sculpt features he adds is stuff he wants for himself to better sculpt anime girls

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thus fun stuff like the cloth brush

plucky pagoda
#

I was following him on Artstation, had no idea he worked on Blender.

fathom wadi
#

holy moly I've seen his work before.

cursive crypt
#

Man, anime girls are next level of motivator

fringe sundial
#

he is the main guy behind the sculpting improvements in blender

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he sculpts anime girls and programs C to make the other thing better

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everyone else reaps the benefit of improved sculpt tools xD

frosty halo
#

I mean.. why not.

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Anime tiddies literally making the industry better

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Is that why there’s an inflate brush on there? 😏

fathom wadi
#

his stuff isn't lewd in any way. I wouldn't much like it if it were.

frosty halo
#

It was said in jest.

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And also as a general poke at ArtStation.

fathom wadi
#

oh I know. I mean his specific anime style is really nice

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I see so much "dubious" stuff I kind of get auto-offended by it now :d

frosty halo
#

Idk I keep seeing stuff like a bent over woman sculpt in a thong or stuff like that and the title says “light study” or “anatomy study “ and it’s like.. dude just be honest and say you like ass. Don’t dress it up.

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It’s nice that as a contrast there’s guys like the fromsoftware artists who post breakdowns of demons souls environment stuff. They’re bloody detailed.

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Have you seen any of those??

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Super cleverly done. The way they use modular pieces for building out their levels.

fringe sundial
#

yeah that one is amazing

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and because ps5 is ps5, they have crazy huge polycounts

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i think it pushes like what, 5-6 million triangles onscreen?

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it was hilarious in the digital foundry interview

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when they said the 60 fps mode was the intended thing

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and the 30 fps mode was... just there

frosty halo
#

Even so, their topology is so clean. And they still optimise it like hell. There’s that cathedral facade they posted recently where they have this incredibly detailed trim that also FUCKING TILES and it blends around the edges into flat geo to save poly count.

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Clever people.

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You mean the 30fps being the “pretty mode” or whatever they call it

plucky pagoda
#

I've replaced After Effects, Premier, Audation, Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator with free or one time payment software. Only thing I need now is a replacement for Acrobat

frosty halo
#

Yeah idk I haven’t seen many vids where the two differ super much in terms of looks. There’s some stuff on Spider-Man that is visible between the two but not enough to warrant losing the FPS.

plucky pagoda
#

Resolve includes Fusion and Fairlight, Which together replace Premiere, After Effects and Audition.

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Affinity Design and Photo replace Photoshop and illustrator

cursive crypt
#

Acrobat? A creator for PDFs?

plucky pagoda
#

Yeah, editor, form editing,

cursive crypt
#

Hmm... Most word processors can fine print into PDFs I think.

plucky pagoda
#

haven't looked yet, I know I'll find something

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There's one I use to use that's like $40 or something one time

fringe sundial
#

blender can do quite a bit of after effects work

cursive crypt
#

To me Affinity still needs to work a lot on the UI and experience.

fathom wadi
#

I used something to make a PDF that wasn't acrobat once, and I can't remember what it was at all. It might have been photoshop with a plugin or something.

cursive crypt
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I dunno, I just export to PDF from say Office something. At work its byproduct from documents and stuff anyway.

frosty halo
# plucky pagoda haven't looked yet, I know I'll find something

I just use word on office 365. If you sign up to Microsoft’s dev account and opt into their 365 dev scheme you basically get office 365 for free with a rolling quarterly free license that autorenews. You can then assign licenses to yourself and others for free. And it’s counted as dev stuff.

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Been using it ever since.

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Just export your docs to pdfs there and done

fathom wadi
#

I installed office 365 on win10, opened a document, printed it out, then uninstalled it again. Just because openoffice had issues with it 😄

frosty halo
#

I don’t install anything. I hate installed apps.

plucky pagoda
#

I don't want to abuse my dev account, but I'll look into it.

frosty halo
#

If it can be used on the web

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Why not

cursive crypt
#

Uh, no. Sure no, web only tools.

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Depends on the tool ofc, but for serious work - no.

plucky pagoda
#

It's tied to my Xbox dev account. I want to be sure to follow all terms of anything.

frosty halo
#

Microsoft is fairly benevolent despite what people tend to say or think about them.

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They’re certainly not as evil as everyone portrays them to be. At least in contrast to others.

plucky pagoda
#

Nah, I just read it. It's for development purposes

fathom wadi
#

thats what an evil corporation would want you to think ¬_¬

frosty halo
#

Really depends on how ethical you are as a human being. And how much of a straight arrow you wanna be.

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It’s there. Why not use it? That’s my motto.

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If they didn’t want it to be used in that way they’d lock it down more. They’re not idiots.

cursive crypt
#

I see you are convinced 😄

frosty halo
#

Convinced of what?

plucky pagoda
#

Yeah, umm.... no.

cursive crypt
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To use it.

frosty halo
#

I do use it

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I see nothing wrong with it. But that doesn’t mean I can’t understand others not wanting to. To each their own

plucky pagoda
#

The terms seem pretty clear. It's not worth risking my reputation with them or my dev account over saving $50 for an app.

fathom wadi
#

The cost of litigation against a single individual for a software license to a corporation like Microsoft is not worth batting an eyelid over. May as well call it collateral damage for releasing software over the internet.

plucky pagoda
#

It doesn't cost anything to terminate an account for violating TOS.

frosty halo
#

I mean when you make bank like Microsoft does, anything but the biggest threats aren’t worth the cost of lawyers reading through.

fathom wadi
#

true in that case of course

frosty halo
#

If we’re being pedantic about this

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But yeah you’re right - if you’re on their ecosystem with a well established dev account it’s not worth breaking tos

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Especially when it ties to you

plucky pagoda
#

If you think respecting the terms of use for the software you use to make a living is pedantic, then I'm ok with being pedantic.

frosty halo
#

I think you’re still thinking of my comments as being contrary. I’m in agreement with you that it’s the right thing.

plucky pagoda
#

yeah, I hit return before your last couple of lines there

frosty halo
#

But I’m also saying that on a personal level my choices and ethics differ. That doesn’t mean I don’t respect you for being ethical.

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Just so we are clear

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I don’t want to come across as being combative at all

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So apologies if I did

plucky pagoda
#

cool.

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I mean I'm not losing sleep over someone gaming a free license from MS. I'm just not going to make that choice.

frosty halo
#

Since you mentioned doing dev on Xbox, how are you finding their ecosystem for it?

plucky pagoda
#

I love what they've done to change it over the last 3 years.

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It's much easier to work with and interacting with MS has become much easier.

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I wish UE still had UWP out of the box, but it's not a big deal that it doesn't

frosty halo
#

Is it fairly indie friendly to publish stuff on their games store in terms of royalties and stuff?

plucky pagoda
#

IMO, Extremely.

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They've made a lot of changes the last few years to make it better for indies.

frosty halo
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I suppose it helps that the game pass lets people access stuff on Xbox and it pc at the same time.

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More exposure

plucky pagoda
#

They know that Gamepass is a very big and important part of things.

frosty halo
#

The again you guys have more stuff to consider now with the new Xbox don’t you? How you push the limits of that system and how to integrate with everything on it.

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Or has that remained largely samey?

plucky pagoda
#

I haven't done anything on console in over a year, other than some UWP stuff. No idea about the new console but likely for the kind of stuff I do it wouldn't be any different. I'm not pushing any sort of limits with new tech.

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I make tiny crappy games.

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Crashing. Later.

frosty halo
#

Imma go for a walk. Need some outside air. Take care y’all.

fathom wadi
north torrent
#

I'm hungry...

fathom wadi
#

I think there is a solution for that on StackOverflow.

plucky pagoda
fathom wadi
#

Cant beat a bit of Weird Al tbh.

plucky pagoda
#

I mean, you can try. I wager a tire iron would do the trick.

fathom wadi
#

it would turn out to be a rubber one from a joke shop

plucky pagoda
#

oh man, really tired of that embeding has been disabled BS.

fathom wadi
#

that meat sandwich video is great

plucky pagoda
#

Yeah, not my favorite but the only one I was comfortable linking here.

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and I happen to have been eating a meatloaf sandwich.

fathom wadi
median wraith
#

14ms on a 970GTX at 1440p is a good deal for today games isn't ?

plucky pagoda
fathom wadi
#

yeah. I'd say 13.9ms tops personally but it's xmas. why not.

plucky pagoda
#

Nobody carves meatloaf like Tim Curry does.

fathom wadi
#

A rather tangy subject wouldn't you say?

plucky pagoda
#

Yeah, spiced like a bat out of hell

fathom wadi
#

I've been singing Hot Patootie rather a lot recently. When I go make a coffee

plucky pagoda
#

Could be a stroke.

fathom wadi
#

One from the vaults

plucky pagoda
warm flint
#

Anyone has any advice or articles about when is the best time to start Kickstarter?

fathom wadi
#

4.20pm

plucky pagoda
#

I prefer afternoons

warm flint
#

Is it better to have a demo ready or is it ok to do Kickstarter before having a demo?

fathom wadi
#

Never done one so I couldn't say

warm flint
#

How many months is the best roughly etc

plucky pagoda
#

Idk, anymore I like electronic ignitions.

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Months? I get frustrated if it takes three kicks.

warm flint
#

Kickstarter is a campaign to fund a game

north torrent
#

It is all about luck.

plucky pagoda
#

Oh, nice. I love DnD.

median wraith
#

idk man back in the days I had up 120FPS now can hardly get 80FPS on the same GPU

plucky pagoda
#

yeah, those dice rolls can be brutal

fringe sundial
#

kickstarter only works these days for nostalgia bait

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on the games side

plucky pagoda
#

If I were you I'd at least add in one or two enemies and an NPC interaction first.

fringe sundial
#

do not count on kickstarter to be worth anything

fathom wadi
#

I had a dream once about a million sided dice that got out of control and started rampaging through the streets and never stopped. Eventually it ran over so many people that some survived and started a new society within the dice. But I'm not sure how it ended. Maybe rolled a 420 or something.

plucky pagoda
#

and build up more views & followers before

warm flint
#

My project has a big potential and I’m 95% certain it will get funded but I need to do it correctly

frosty halo
fringe sundial
#

unless you can nostalgia bait or kinda find a niche of games that have a hungry population like mmos

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and there are already enough failed kickstarter mmos people dont fund those anymore

plucky pagoda
#

Yeah, everyone's 95% certain of the uncertain

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What have you released before?

frosty halo
#

I feel like KS is just an easy way to sink a bunch of money before knowing it’ll work.

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Otherwise - how can you be so sure.

fringe sundial
#

where kickstarter works very well lately is for physical stuff like tabletop games, or also some 3d model projects to download for stuff like 3d printers

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there are tons of miniature kickstarters where you get a lot of cool 3d print minis

frosty halo
#

Not trying to shit on your dreams or anything but statistically you’re not the only person who thinks their product is Gods gift to mankind.

warm flint
#

I have multiple youtubers interested in my project who will help me promote it, I also have a decent following on twitter and discord server but there are also a lot of people interested in this kind of game

fringe sundial
#

thats not enough

warm flint
#

I think Kickstarter is the way to go for me

fringe sundial
#

how many millions of people we are talking about?

plucky pagoda
#

Oh nice. Which one is going to fund it?

warm flint
#

But I want to do it right

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That’s why I’m looking for someone to point me in the right direction

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Because I believe people will be interested in funding the project I want to get maximum out of it

fringe sundial
#

kickstarter is a nice marketing tool,there are some big bonuses to making one

plucky pagoda
#

In between the sarcasm, it's there.

fringe sundial
#

but do not expect to actually get money from it and have a succesful campaign

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specially for a "normal" indie game

plucky pagoda
#

What have you released before?

fringe sundial
#

as commented, it has to be nostalgiabait

warm flint
#

It is nostalgia bait

fringe sundial
#

oh then it could fit

#

what sort of nostalgiabait

frosty halo
#

It’s a Zelda-soulslike

warm flint
fathom wadi
#

BubbleBobble Tekken crossover

plucky pagoda
#

Looks like a spyro knock off, without the enemies, npcs, witty banter, sheep, cut scenes,

warm flint
#

3d action adventure

fringe sundial
#

spyro i see

warm flint
#

With semi open world like darksiders 2

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Quests and stuff

fringe sundial
#

that stuff costs a hell of a lot of money to build

warm flint
#

Soulslike boss battles

plucky pagoda
#

I'd add some NPCs and enemies before trying to get funding, and talk about what else you've released

warm flint
#

That’s why I need funding and I wanna go Kickstarter

fringe sundial
#

thats your first huge mistake

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you cant rely on kickstarter

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kickstarter is a marketing tool

warm flint
#

@plucky pagoda look at stuff posted on twitter before you talk

fringe sundial
#

not a funding tool

plucky pagoda
#

I have.

frosty halo
#

He has npc’s

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There’s a video on his Twitter

fathom wadi
#

Im gonna make a new genre called Nihilist-like. It's like souls-like games but if you cant be arsed the game just carries on anyway.

fringe sundial
#

you need to understand that kickstarter for games is not about the funding

warm flint
#

So you are blind I have npcs enemies dialogue systems voice acting

frosty halo
#

I mean those are enemies

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But

fringe sundial
#

kickstarter for games is to then get "actual" funding

frosty halo
#

There’s action there

fringe sundial
#

and to be marketing

plucky pagoda
#

If you have all that on twiter why isn't any of it on the YoutTube or anything else for the game?

fringe sundial
#

as kickstarter key-flood on day 1 works really well on steam algorithms

warm flint
#

I have YouTube

frosty halo
#

Ez

fathom wadi
#

haven't played that yet. I saw the fancy graphics tho and it looked nice

frosty halo
#

It’s very atmospheric

plucky pagoda
#

The only videos on the youtube look like a very early protype with like a week or two of work in them

frosty halo
#

And a very unique take

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But it’s also short

#

I personally recommend

fathom wadi
#

good thing these days. I have half a dozen GaaS I have to shuffle

frosty halo
#

If you’re decent at souls games you won’t find it challenging but it’s not a breeze either.

#

Sort of... optimised midpoint

plucky pagoda
#

There's no link to your twitter in your YouTube description, your profile, or google

frosty halo
#

Unless you do shell-less runs

fathom wadi
#

It's all trial and error in those games. I don't really rate them unless the story keeps up

#

Nioh was ok but confusing as hell. But I liked that

plucky pagoda
#

Oh, and you can't copyright a title

warm flint
#

?

#

It is copyrighted and trademarked

frosty halo
#

I mean.. “cataclysm A befalls realm X you’re some sort of vagabond / homeless / generic that stumbles onto greatness. “ kek

plucky pagoda
#

putting a little copyright symbol at the end of your title name just tells people you don't understand copyright

warm flint
#

You clearly have no idea about stuff

plucky pagoda
#

ok, lets check

plucky pagoda
#

ok, but that's not a copyright

#

you have it marked as copyrighted

warm flint
#

You need to learn what copyright and trademark is

#

Also check copyright laws in Uk

plucky pagoda
#

um....

frosty halo
#

@warm flint you technically need to be able to withstand a proper grilling from your peers and defend your project without comments like “you have no idea about stuff”. You came here to ask about KS and people are giving you some much needed perspective. Because yes - if you thought about 99/100 things that’s great, but it doesn’t hurt for anyone to challenge or scrutinise it because your customers will. And so will publishers.

#

And chances are in the midst of all of this you may discover you missed something crucial in order to succeed.

warm flint
#

@frosty halo you didn’t notice that this Mike guy is basically trolling

#

I’m talking about him not knowing stuff look and what he says

plucky pagoda
#

I am not. You can not copyright a title.

warm flint
#

Read his responses

plucky pagoda
#

UK or not.

frosty halo
#

I mean.. how do you know he is trolling? He’s contradicting you. That’s as far as I can see.

warm flint
plucky pagoda
#

In all fairness , I was a smart ass at first but he walked into the middle of me and marc being smartasses to each other

warm flint
#

Guy thinks it’s dnd

frosty halo
#

Besides you can as far as I know only trademark a title and not copyright it

plucky pagoda
#

and this is lounge

fathom wadi
#

copyright is original work, trademark is a registered term. You can't copyright a title but you can trademark it. So technically you should have a TM next to it right?

warm flint
#

Glyde is original artwork with original main character and the title

#

So it is copyrighted

#

The logo

#

The character

frosty halo
#

The title isn’t covered by copyright

#

No matter how much you want it to be

#

You need to hire a proper lawyer and let them explain it to you

warm flint
#

I don’t think we will understand each other

frosty halo
#

Cause I think you are stuck in the “I know everything “ loop

#

And that’s dangerous

warm flint
#

The artwork of the title is copyrighted

#

The title is trademarked

fathom wadi
#

the artwork, the character yes. And it looks good btw. But a person could write something with the title Glyde the dragon as the name and you wouldn't be in a position to litigate. Unless they used the artwork and/or were infringing on that artwork/character

warm flint
#

So that’s what I’m saying

#

The artwork and characters from the game are original and copyrighted

#

The Glyde the dragon title is trademarked

#

So I dunno what your problem is

radiant current
#

If you added ™️ to a logo without actually trademarking it could you get in trouble?

plucky pagoda
fathom wadi
#

not in trouble so much as not protected

plucky pagoda
#

I mean the scroll has a short memory but it ussually lasts a minute or two

warm flint
#

By title I meant a game

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Not the title title

plucky pagoda
#

Oh ok, that's fair. By title I meant golf ball

warm flint
#

Games are called titles as well

#

Console title

#

Pc title

plucky pagoda
#

Ok.

warm flint
#

So it’s a fair mistake to make

plucky pagoda
#

I yield.

warm flint
#

I misunderstood what you meant and reiterated

#

That I mean the game is copyrighted

#

And title is trademarked

#

But you are still having some problems

#

Dunno what your issue is but you are not helping

warm flint
#

Since I came here to ask for advice about Kickstarter not to argue about trademarks and copyrights

#

While you can’t even respond properly related on topic you just trash talk

foggy path
plucky pagoda
#

I stand by the statement that I'd add some NPCs and cut scenes. Those games sell on the cute nostalgia. It needs personality.

frosty halo
warm flint
#

@plucky pagoda and I stand by you actually scrolling through the twitter

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Because I’ve shown cutscene

#

I’ve shown NPCs

plucky pagoda
#

You've hidden them well.

warm flint
#

You talk without actually looking

plucky pagoda
#

I'm on sept 12th. Still haven't seen any.

frosty halo
#

This is is getting a little out of hand methinks

plucky pagoda
#

Yeah. I want to go back to meatloaf.

warm flint
#

19th sept so you scrolled past

#

Look more carefully next time

plucky pagoda
#

oh ffs,

#

If I missed the one tweet that still doesn't have any interesting NPCs and it's almost 3 months old, whose fault is that?

warm flint
#

Anyway I’m done here I will find help somewhere else, have a good day 🙂

plucky pagoda
#

good luck.

#

Oh, yeah

#

Use to listen to this every morning walking to school

#

That and Sepultura. @fathom wadi

fathom wadi
#

Chaos AD is a classic

plucky pagoda
#

Yes.

#

I always liked "we who are, not as others"

fathom wadi
#

Seasons wasn't my fave but it's got the most classics on it. Reign in blood was in my tape player for a long time.

plucky pagoda
#

Yeah, wore that tape out too.

fathom wadi
plucky pagoda
fathom wadi
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I got to see Megadeth supporting Metallica. It was surreal. the kind of thing you never expected to ever happen.

plucky pagoda
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I like some of their music, but I can't look at Dave Mustaine without laughing out loud.

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Yeah, that would be a mind trip

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He looks like a rich kid who thought metal might be fun for a laugh

fathom wadi
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He wore a cardigan at the gig I went to. I kept thinking aww bless him he can't take the cold. They performed the song from Last Action Hero for the first time ever. When Dave announced it was the first time, someone shouted "No it's not I heard it before" and Dave looked down and said "Yes it is, don't doubt me motherfucker" and I laughed my ass off.

plucky pagoda
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lmao

plucky pagoda
fathom wadi
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Heh. Twist is, when Baron Von Blubba turns up, it's Heihachi in 10-hit combo mode.

plucky pagoda
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lol

fathom wadi
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I bet he'd mess up Bub but what people don't know is Bob has a black belt in Brazillian Jiu-jitsu. #2up

plucky pagoda
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Bomberman where all the enemies are old video game heroes with realistic gore when they explode

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Luigi had it coming

fathom wadi
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I had a play of bomberman arcade last month. It still owns me

plucky pagoda
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It's on PSNow, it and a few clones

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some of them are pretty cool

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simple and fun

fathom wadi
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I prefer emulation. Something about the mechanics of it appeals to me. I was playing with PS3 emulation last month too. It's really come on a long way yet Sony still won't put backwards compatibility in their consoles. It sucks

plucky pagoda
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I have no idea why there is a gif of thanos dropping yield symbols, but I'm glad there is.

fathom wadi
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There is a bug with FFX emulation right now where once you finish the last fight the game just locks up. None of the emulation scene know what causes it. It's one of those things that makes me love emulation. it's never perfect but getting there is satisfying.

plucky pagoda
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That seems like a hidden bomb

fathom wadi
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I was wondering that

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But why at the end of the game? I'd have done it right at the first save point so you have to go through all the intro cutscenes, which takes half an hour or so 😄

plucky pagoda
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Like how on some of the old games they'd read the pattern of a non writable part of the disk to verify it was the same physical disk and slowly degrade the gameplay if it wasn't

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That's not exactly right in what I'm thinking of. I'd need to look it up

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There was an old trick with the disks one of the studios did

fathom wadi
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I thought maybe it called a specific cell proc reserved memory address and because the structure of ram is different, even in emulation terms, that the static pointer wouldn't ever be the same. Or something I dunno

plucky pagoda
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I mean weirder things have been done

fathom wadi
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it was a crazy system

plucky pagoda
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dammit, I can't even remember enough about the disk thing to know what to google

fathom wadi
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I follow a couple of old school game devs from Ocean days who used to do stuff like that. The whole Ocean Dongle thing is a cool story

plucky pagoda
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lol

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Oh, I think I found it.

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Loved that game.

soft night
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omg what happen on F1 GP in bahrain

bold fulcrum
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wha?

soft night
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when happen was that is the driver ok

plucky pagoda
soft night
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car went flames in hit so sure he got the feel the heat there

plucky pagoda
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crazy

fathom wadi
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I just can't believe something like that can happen just from driving a rocket engine at 250mph.

plucky pagoda
fathom wadi
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I had a session once where I looked up fatalities in racing and there's been some insane ones. The 1955 Le Mans disaster was truly crazy

plucky pagoda
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That dungeon master copy protection is a work of art.

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Wow. Insane.

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Ouch, it skimmed the stands

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wow

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Magnesium?

fathom wadi
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yeah smoking was healthy back then too

plucky pagoda
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I mean yeah why not, it's not like it's full of flammable liquid that's being ignited constantly.

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I mean it works for firestarters why not make a car chassis out of it.

fathom wadi
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There was a horrid video I saw once where a track marshall was hit by an F1 car. Tore him to bits

plucky pagoda
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ugh

soft night
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when he game out from the cockpit through flames was miracle for sure

fathom wadi
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This is why if I ever do formula 1, I'm racing with a flying-V guitar in my cockpit, so when I crash I can step out playing a solo and look cool AF

soft night
median wraith
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Halo 4 light effects VFX are specially well done

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looks almost volumetric

soft night
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Groshean hit barriers in 53G force

carmine frigate
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that 1st pic looks like a mortal combat finish move

soft night
median wraith
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🤖

plucky pagoda
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It's the AN_

median wraith
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yeah is the pack I bought at Unity

plucky pagoda
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It's guessing the prefix is for normal, I think.

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unless that wasn't the point of the screenshot

median wraith
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na is the name of the package

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Normal is at the ending

plucky pagoda
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I know. But it imported the albedo as a normal

median wraith
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now there was problems at import xd

plucky pagoda
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lol

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I move assets from Unity store a lot.

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I use a bulk renaming app with the filenames sometimes first

median wraith
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will need to edit all at Blender it seems

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once I ported a whole foliage pack from Epic to Godot

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spent 2 days

plucky pagoda
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Foliage is the worst.

bold fulcrum
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sweet lighting

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shame it is not includet

median wraith
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someone missed to cap the branches

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and yeah is the LOD0

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NOT INCLUDET

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there was an example in UE4 I bet

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is kinda like the Sand in that PS4 indie game but way waaaay more simple

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@bold fulcrum worst part, is the shaders that come in the pack for lerping colors are an export of code generated by a paid plugin, aka non readable nightmare

bold fulcrum
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Ah, obfuscated code! I approve though.

median wraith
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XD

median wraith
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well then kids, let me fix all this in Blender

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mental note UE4 generates a new folder to import with the under _

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The modern art is too cool

bold fulcrum
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That is a lot of cards right there

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I disapprove.

median wraith
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I will export like that a single mesh

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then create a read about how I used 200 materials in the same mesh and used a single mesh for the whole world

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should make an script for future use cases

median wraith
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almost

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someone used this plugin for UE4 ?

plucky pagoda
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Idk, is that the pipeline one ? It's been a while and it didn't have lods when I used it.

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If that works with the LODs and the collision , can you share a link?

median wraith
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seems like don't works at all at export lods

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is just to import them wtf

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yeah that plugin

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collisions worked last time I checked

plucky pagoda
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Thanks.

frosty halo
median wraith
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Don't worry kids we are almost

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the compilation of materials over Forward Shading is a nightmare

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yeah basically don't have half of the shaders :p

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thats why runs faster

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This is how the trees are isnt it ?

fresh heath
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So that's how they make paper

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They grow it on toxic-looking trees

median wraith
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question

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this is red or orange

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yeah

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guys says thats red

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to me looks darker orange but okay

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there is red too

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lol

fresh heath
radiant current
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i should move that

median wraith
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nailed the shader

deep glen
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you monster :p

median wraith
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haha

humble remnant
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That pic looks more red to me

frosty halo
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Peak Dr Seuss

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Or Radiohead

soft night
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so colorful trees

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more like christmas colors

carmine frigate
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better save that shader for when LSD becomes hip again

frosty halo
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It already is, no? Isn’t that what micro-dosing is in the states? The most popular compound is LSD just after psilocybin

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Iirc

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Not as fun though.. less of a trip and more of a stroll.

carmine frigate
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lol i think ur still trippin 😛

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think the whole psycadellic scene is pretty low atm

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dont see too many ppl talking to a lamp post when i walk down the street anymore

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u can buy psilocybin in the store here mescal too, but it just not popular anymore

frosty halo
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Hmm maybe I’m in the wrong crowd

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Or the right one

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Depends on how you see things

carmine frigate
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might have to do with people video recording you if u go all dumbfest 😛

frosty halo
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Helps my migraines.

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Anecdotally

carmine frigate
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hmm its not something i would take on a regular basis

frosty halo
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No it’s definitely not

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But the kicker is - after one use - it’s 1-2 months pain free for me

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And it needs to be a fairly controlled dose

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Anyway. Drugs are bad mmmmmkay

carmine frigate
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unless ur sick 😛

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i never used LSD, but i like the science of it and the cult that surrounds it

frosty halo
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Hah

foggy path
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I think the results they've got with using psychedelics to treat mental illness are interesting

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I don't think the research on that is on a very wide scale yet but the preliminary results look like they could be helpful

frosty halo
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Yeah I’ve been following the depression trials loosely and honestly it’s very intriguing as to how effective it can be in some people.

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There’s a few of them in the US on some small very tightly controlled groups

median wraith
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I were trying to figure out but

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okay let me change that

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there you go

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now lets combine all

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@zinc matrix yeah based on the center of the tree

wide glacier
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Any ideas for games you guys have wanted to make?

frosty halo
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As in?

wide glacier
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Just any general stories or gameplay ideas you have.

frosty halo
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A text adventure in full 3D isometric. You write a command into a text box and the character does what you wrote. You say: “look at book” and they walk up to the book and look at it (inspect). Say “open cupboard” and they do it. Etc etc.

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Pace would be slow af

median wraith
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Well this is it

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vertical variation + slope variation + world variation

carmine frigate
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and a tree

frosty halo
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Some more:

  • You choose a bird from a list of birds. You swoop off a mountain and you’re supposed to glide all the way down without smacking into anything. Each bird has physically accurate aerodynamics to affect gliding speed and air resistance. The smacking into stuff plays a mortal Kombat sort of X-ray animation with breaking bones and stuff.

  • Play as a character that wakes up in a maze, and they realise they can walk through walls, but only for a set amount of time. So you use that to help you navigate the maze, but if you don’t time your phasing, you get fused into the wall and it’s game over.

  • You are some kids science experiment, a little robot, that has suddenly gained sentience and woke up in the scrapyard. Turns out the scrapyard is full of such discarded toys and creatures, you navigate the dangers of the scrap heap while avoiding being crushed or recycled while upgrading yourself with the junk you find. @wide glacier enjoy

median wraith
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now you can see it better lmao

carmine frigate
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now put the lsd back on there\

median wraith
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better ?

carmine frigate
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yea 🙂

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perfection

median wraith
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still finding a way for better color variation over the world cuz don't get somethng I like

carmine frigate
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the color on that last 1 is actually really good 🙂

frosty halo
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Ba-dun-tsssssss