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west hamlet
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are there any ue4 fan remakes that have actually been finished?

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just curious

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i've never been able to find any that are actually 100% completed.. i think that the super mario 64 one got pretty far? not sure. but im curious about other ones, as that specific game isn't something that i particular love a lot (sacrilege, i know haha)

unborn lotus
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@fluid bloom could that be because of the mp team asking for more content and "value" for everything submitted?

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@west hamlet PT remake?

fluid bloom
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I have no idea, I have never submitted anything

west hamlet
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PT?

unborn lotus
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Well I had packs rejected because of being too small, or not enough features so that might be it

west hamlet
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the only PT that comes to mind is Robert Rodriguez's Planet Terror film lol

unborn lotus
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@west hamlet silent hills pt demo

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Look for unrea pt remake? As any fan made remake, it got taken down everywhere

west hamlet
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oh

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i cant play silent hills hahaha too scary

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i just saw a turok ue4 remake project vid, that would be amazing

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so tired of development mega-companies C&D'ing fan remakes when they absolutely have no plans or intentions to remake a game themselves.

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theoretically, they could always just let a fan or group of fans finish their project and then publish it, make their money. i just don't get it.

cursive crypt
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Damn... I just went over the Affinity products and fed them. It is unthinkable that you can't customize how big your interface appears on the screen.

lone grail
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Good day everyone

zinc matrix
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Something seems off today

median wraith
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seems nice to me

lone grail
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Noice

plucky pagoda
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substance indie is $149 for a year right now.

fresh heath
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lone grail
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I feel bad for buying houdini and should have stuck with blender 😦

plucky pagoda
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Nah, Houdini is worth every penny if you're going to use it for what it does well. Blender and Houdini are completely different creatures.

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The new KineFX stuff in Houdini alone is worth the cost.

lone grail
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I guess so, I just don't have the need for VFX at the moment but coming soon I'm sure, I bought it to use kineFX and been having issues rigging though the houdini discord did help me solve my issues, I still don't quite understand the animation process in it yet, I've seen procedural animations done in it and that's why I wanted to use it but I got no clue how to utilize the tools

plucky pagoda
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I haven't used the rigging in 18.5 yet, but it is confusing how they handle joints and bones.

fluid bloom
plucky pagoda
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I understand the reasoning behind it but it adds unnecessary confusion when rigging for Unreal

lone grail
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I quite like how you place the bones just by clicking, and the auto weights is pretty good, better than blender for sure but not production ready weight painting by any means, the issue I had was that I needed to clear weights and data from the mesh I was using to then apply the new skeleton, simple fix but lots of headaches since I'm new.

plucky pagoda
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Ah

lone grail
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Ah I see, I just imported my skeletal mesh from houdini into ue4 and it doesn't detect any of the bones at all

plucky pagoda
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How'd you export it?

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It took me a bit to figure out how to get it to export right for Unreal

median wraith
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best Blender update is the Houdini update

lone grail
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File > Export is what I did but UE doesn't see any of it's bones so it's definitely not right lol

plucky pagoda
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Make sure everything is visible. I've had better luck by right clicking the last node I want to use and exporting to FBX from there.

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or using a FBX ROP node

fringe sundial
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@lone grail why did you even buy houdini when there is a learning edition?

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and free 2 month licenses every 3 months from the epic megajams

lone grail
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Because I'm stupid

fringe sundial
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and yeah, use the FBX ROP node

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works better

plucky pagoda
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Oh, you didn't try it out first?

fringe sundial
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and btw, blender and houdini mesh very well together

plucky pagoda
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I use Blender and Houdini

fringe sundial
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blender excels at sculpting and "fast" modelling

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so you model stuff in blender then rig in houdini

lone grail
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Well I have owned houdini twice before for VFX

fringe sundial
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or use houdini to process/bake the meshes

plucky pagoda
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I don't understand it when I hear people say they like Blender's sculpting

fringe sundial
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blender polymodelling is the best in the entire industry

lone grail
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Also I didn't know it would cost me just over $400 when it says $2something

fringe sundial
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blender sculpting is just second, behind zbrush

plucky pagoda
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Modeling is good. Sculpting gets bogged down too fast.

fringe sundial
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it will forever keep second, which is kind of a shame

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@plucky pagoda they literally just implemented MASSIVE optimizations for sculpt mode

plucky pagoda
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Ah, I'll give it a try again

fringe sundial
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still never going to go into the 30 million triangle scale zbrush does

lone grail
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I used FOP FBX Export node and UE still doesn't see any bones

plucky pagoda
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That and remesher make ZBrush unbeatable

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ROP

lone grail
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I mean that yea

plucky pagoda
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Make sure you don't check the box next to ascii

lone grail
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Oh that's checked by default lemme try again

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Yep bones still are not seen

plucky pagoda
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Paste a screen of your node setup?

lone grail
plucky pagoda
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Does that last node above it need to be set to visible? You have it set to the first node.

lone grail
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Didn't work either

plucky pagoda
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That's what I use

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ugh, wait without the ascii

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err maybe...

rich quiver
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there curve in blender animation system alex

lone grail
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Nope didn't work either

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Ue can't find bind pose is one of the warnings

plucky pagoda
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My bad, last screen was wrong

lone grail
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Still nope

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Would it be okay to rig in blender then use houdini for the procedural animations?

plucky pagoda
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Probably. I use a script in Blender for a lot of my rigging and have imported back to Houdini with those.

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If I don't checkmark that force skin deform export box, UE imports it as a static mesh.

lone grail
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Ue imports as a static mesh no matter what I do

plucky pagoda
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Other than that idk, still fairly new to Houdini

unborn lotus
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i only wish the uv editor gets an update in blender 😦

plucky pagoda
lone grail
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I kinda wish I could refund houdini

plucky pagoda
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You can always send an email and beg.

lone grail
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I would not have bought it if I knew they would take $400

plucky pagoda
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?

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Houdini indie is like 250

lone grail
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Yeah but they only have it in USD I guess

plucky pagoda
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Oh, you bought 2 years

lone grail
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Nope

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1 year license

plucky pagoda
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?

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Is that 400 usd?

lone grail
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No CAD

plucky pagoda
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oh

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ok

lone grail
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I thought I would pay what it said or even what the checkout said, but nope I feel ripped off

plucky pagoda
lone grail
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I tried using addons for rigging in blender but I always have issues so I just rig myself

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I literally can't spend any money at all because I got houdini

plucky pagoda
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That sucks, I feel you on missing it was in USD on the site.

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Send an email and explain that. They might cut you a break.

lone grail
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I'll try it

undone light
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Nothing beats that feeling of a built project after an hour of resolving compiler errors.

plucky pagoda
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They have staff active on their Discord, but no idea how helpful they are with things like that.

uncut otter
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!8ball will my Arby’s sliders be made with good meat today?

turbid spindleBOT
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@uncut otter, :8ball: Concentrate and ask again.

uncut otter
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!8ball concentrating will my Arby’s sliders be made with good meat today?

turbid spindleBOT
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@uncut otter, :8ball: Outlook not so good.

uncut otter
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Sigh

lone grail
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I sent to customer support, not sure if anything will happen but fingers crossed

carmine frigate
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smoke needs some world pos stuff

vale agate
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It needs you be slower and there needs to be more of it

carmine frigate
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and it needs a splashdown

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it also needs to be a sandworm

rich quiver
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@pearl compass driveless cars have been battle tested during the pandemic

vale agate
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I have discovered that in quarantine everyone hates me

fluid bloom
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slack stonks up

lone grail
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Stonks ⤴️

fresh heath
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stick and stones, slack and stonks

median wraith
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Youtube official music channels have more adult content than the actual adult websites

fluid bloom
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my palantir stonks are ⤴️

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well... were

cursive crypt
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Palantir? 🤔

lone grail
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Lol, yeah some music videos are weird

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Nikki Manaj or whatever basically makes her videos as soft core porn and that's allowed on youtube

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dude says "Ass" gets demonetized lol

robust shale
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Hey some black friday tip, outside the unreal marketstore 🙂 Reallusion has an offer for "Ultimate Digital Human Creation Bundle" that has aaaalot of stuff, and if you buy it with iClone you get an additional 50% off. Semi-pricy but some really great stuff in there. Watch out though that you need an stupidly expensive 3dxhangfe license to quality for the free indie Unreal Live link (so you can use your iphone/ipad for motion capture)

Substance painter just dropped 32% of the indie subscription (https://www.substance3d.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Master_Monster_Discount_20_400x400.mp44). If you havent tried substance painter you really should. No more putting up with sub-par texturing of assets 🙂

Synty is running a general 50% off, (https://syntystore.com/) with 70% for the apocalypse pack. Better to buy than the Unreal marketplace since you get Unreal+Unity+source files

Unity store is also running a sale of course (https://assetstore.unity.com/?gclid=CjwKCAiAnvj9BRA4EiwAuUMDf7M0WJXVads6Bdk-GqAa4ZL_uAtl-UmlZWZdFjMdtMN1IdPXlXprXRoCO_IQAvD_BwE) , with 50% off, and some 70%, if there's something you need that's not on the unreal store its pretty easy to convert animations and models

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mossy nexus
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Reallusion can bite my ass

lone grail
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I might try Rider for Unreal Engine, because intellisense not working right in VS is driving me insane now that I'm picking up more in coding whoever mentioned it earlier is right lol

robust shale
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They do feel a bit enterprise shady 🙂 but Character Creator 3 is pretty good unfortunately

mossy nexus
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I don't deny they have nice software, but their selling practises are shitty

zinc matrix
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can anyone tell me if UE4 supports multithreading on a cpu?

robust shale
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Rider is amazing, it's so good. I did 20 years of VS development only to regret I didnt discover it earlier. You get all resharper stuff built in and its so much faster

mossy nexus
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@zinc matrix no need to spam different channels.,

lone grail
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Nice! I'll get it now since it's still in beta I will probably pay after its out of beta if it really is helpful and smooth

mossy nexus
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UE4 can do multithreading. It requires knowledge of it. I don't have that knowledge.

zinc matrix
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wdym by knowledge

mossy nexus
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it means you need to know how to use the thing

lone grail
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Need to know how to get it working efficiently

zinc matrix
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gotcha

robust shale
lone grail
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Thank you I definitely will try and push through, I actually don't use many VS specific tools other than find and build, so I probably won't have a hard time
I'm hoping I can uninstall VS after a while of using Rider for UE because VS takes SOOO much space on my C drive

robust shale
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Rider has this really interesting initiative, that's live already on mac I think, where they've decoupled the actual editor ui from the background compiling, intellisense etc. VS runs in 32 bit because they felt the overhead going to 64-bit wasnt worth it, but since everything runs in the same process you get all kinds of nasty freezes (Unreal editor cough cough). But Jetbrains has an published standard where the editor just acts like an front end and pushes everything else to a "local server" thread, thus keeping the ui responsive. It's pretty amaz. I actually think VS Code uses it.

median wraith
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steam is collapsed by the sales noice

cursive crypt
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oh? At this time of the year, credit cards are on fire.

median wraith
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yeah the download servers are kinda broken

cursive crypt
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If you are not selling, it is bad month. Most of my payments fall around, sigh...

lone grail
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That's really cool Jippmokk, I'm excited to get started in it, when VS is doing background processing I can't do anything on my pc without extreme lag, and the pure bulk of it disturbs me greatly

robust shale
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Yeah, I kinda got used to it, then I switched to Rider and realized I'd been in an abusive relationship 🙂

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I do think the Unreal c++ version is much slower than the c# version tho for natural reasons. But at least it's responsive 🙂

lone grail
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Yeah I feel like that is happening lol, I just setup rider with all the defaults, I actually preferred the first keymapping setup which is IntelliJ mappings, only because F2 is rename and I like that because that's how I did it in VSCode

robust shale
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it does suck up memory tho, but guess VS does the same 🙂

lone grail
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VS sucks memory like a vaccum but when I'm coding the only things I'm doing is either googling or listening to youtube music or podcast or interview / documentary stuff

robust shale
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I'd like to watch a SNL sitcom of memory offenders between Chrome, VS, and Unreal Editor. It'd be pretty nice, but funny, or tragic 🙂

lone grail
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I'm watching the setup video, and you can actually use rider features while background processes are happening, in VS I can't code while that's happening lol.
Lol yes

robust shale
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yeah, man they need to fix Unreal editor at some point, everything seems to run on the UI thread

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ITunes called, they want their software engineers back

lone grail
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Lol

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I was thinking maybe when I am comfortable and confident I will completely retarget to Rider and delete VS maybe I can actually get UE4 Source Code and build engine from source, but I dunno if there is a point in doing that for me since I wont be able to do shite to the engine code lol

fresh heath
robust shale
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Gaea is blowing my old mind when it comes to terrain generation, jesus christ, it's going to put all asset authors out of business. It's basically like Blueprints for terrain generation, free for indies up to 1024k, can do craaaazy stuff like coloring, erosion, flow maps etc. I'm torn between feeling incompetent at that, or vectoraygen

lone grail
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I remember when World machine was top of the game, I have never heard of gaea until now, looks impressive

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It's cheap for indies wow

mossy nexus
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Gaea and World Creator 3 are nice

robust shale
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dont even need to buy it initially, can just stich together tiles.And oh man the map generation things, you could make the most awesome player topographical maps

lone grail
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What in the unholy witchcraft is going on there

robust shale
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It's dark magic I tell you 🙂

mossy nexus
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ugh faceache. no thanks.

cursive crypt
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Oh, cool, I did something similar before few years. Ofc, cpu only and fully automatic, kinda too many problems however to move forward (mountains + rivers).

robust shale
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It has the weirdest UI tho, It's actually nice, but like nothing i've ever seen. I mean, not weird weird, but certainly not based off any framework

lone grail
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It's very minimalistic and I like it

robust shale
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Yeah... its surprisingly good

lone grail
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This is something I'd definitely love to have in my workflow but my game plan was to make a top down game and dunno if it'd really be necessary right now

robust shale
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Ahhh, I was working on a top down game, my only tip, make some blueprint with data structures per tile and use hism thereafter (I mean as much as you can) Screw aligning floors, walls and cra... stuff

lone grail
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It wasn't gonna be directly up and down, camera is set to a 45 or 50 degree angle, I still think maybe I should continue my third person shooter based on Lil Red Riding hood

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But my top down was gonna be a zelda style Earthbound in 3D

robust shale
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Is it titled "Huff 'n Puff"?

lone grail
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Lol nah, the third person shooter project didn't have a name, but it was supposed to be a dark gothic Victorian era game where you play as a girl in a red hood with a rifle hunting werewolves among other things

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I have a hard time sticking with a project

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Now that I am doing something focused more on fun, I kinda wanna go back to that project

robust shale
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tell me about it, I have like 5 projects going in parallel, but feel like, jesus christ this is too dark for me right now, let's make an happy island! 🙂

lone grail
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Yeah sames, except I just removed 70 projects from my HDD lol

robust shale
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70????

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ok, maybe some test projects 🙂

lone grail
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Lots of small prototypes

robust shale
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The best kind, all pleasure, and no delivery 🙂

lone grail
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Yeah I really really need to get down to 1 project, and right now it's one of these 2

robust shale
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I want to build a Sauna game, but can't come up with the game mechanic 🙂

lone grail
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The top down I have the ability to rotate the camera around player to find hidden objects behind buildings and what now because in some top down RPG's I would love to see the world from different angles

robust shale
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Go with your heart 🙂 that's the one you're going to put in the time with anyway. Im between two, and the other one for sure has better structure and plotline, but doesnt feel as engaging as the setting of the other one right now

lone grail
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Yeah I'm in the exact same boat based on the description

robust shale
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that's interesting, havent seen that before

lone grail
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When I make something I always try to add something different, though the TPS doesn't have anything different just ordinary TPS right now lol

robust shale
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My favorite game to play now is The Raft, omg its so nice, just slight survivor mechanic and chill and play with your friend(s) you wont be able to see in forever 🙂

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You should always try to do something different 🙂

lone grail
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The raft looks cool I've seen lots of lets plays on it.
Yeah I always always want to do things that are different

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The TPS I was gonna combine with Dark souls elements to make it a bit different, and the top down weapon system will be pick up object, swing and throw then grab the next object laying aroudn

robust shale
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It's really about starting to play it coop with someone, as it very coop and experential based. But interesting niche', co-op chill kinda. I play Deep Rock galactic which is similar (although intensive sometimes)

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I feel like everyone is either doing a dark souls clone or a breath of the wild clone 🙂

lone grail
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I'veI haven't really sat and played a game to chill for a while other than Pokemon, me and my gf got the Pokemon games for switch a couple weeks ago and been playing those

robust shale
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Is that a game?? can't find anything about it

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I was thinking a sauna game would be about juggling water consumpting, water pouring on the rocks and dipping into the water, but not sure how to make it fun. Would be fun if there was like sauna mini-bosses. Like a fishing game 🙂

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hahaha, bastuklubb

lone grail
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Make it stressful, make the comfort level very slim and going over will dehydrate and kill the player lol

lone grail
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I wish I wouldn't struggle sticking with a project, it's the hardest thing about making games

robust shale
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Yeah I feel like I should do a really small game, just to release something. But then my mind goes "NAH! Let's make a open world game with complex stuff in it!"

lone grail
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Yeah I thought about making the top down game to make thing a bit easier but when I was working on a First person game I was feeling like I'm stuck in a box and now the same with top down, getting a claustrophobic feeling

robust shale
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Make a flying game 🤷‍♂️

lone grail
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Nah not a fan

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I feel more free when making third person for some reason

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I probably should stick with the top down game though

robust shale
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I find it really hard to find a good third person camera. The ALS one is black vodoo, third person remastered is ok, there's some expensive on on the marketplace

lone grail
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Why not just use Third person template and edit it?

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Worked great for mine

robust shale
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I mean you can, but there's a lot of subtleties and things you need to implement for third person, top down is easier tho

lone grail
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I'm using the third person template camera for the top down lol

robust shale
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the only tricky thing is using the mouse cursor to look ahead if you're doing something miami hotline-ish. Some camera lag and strategic zoom in and out really helps gamefeel

lone grail
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That's really easy to implement though, I'm not using a aim, but I'm using the mouse and right stick to rotate around player

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Though I might switch to using a magic character instead of pick up physics objects

robust shale
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ahh that's easier than using the mouse cursor

lone grail
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Yep, I want something that can translate well across mouse and keyboard and gamepad

thorny dock
robust shale
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I do love the concept of a top down shooter, feels like its a bit of an underestimated genre these days. You get so much more overview so it becomes more about tactics that twitchy fingers

lone grail
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Yeah top down shooters are great

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I might just go in the middle and do a third person Witch game like I planned before

robust shale
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Make the game you want to play 🙂

lone grail
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I wanna make so many because I wanna play so many

robust shale
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Yeah, but the game to do is the one you can't bear not to play 🙂

lone grail
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No idea what that could be lol

robust shale
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One day 🙂

lone grail
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I don't wanna wait I just wanna make my game now! lol

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I should just write a bit of a story and go from there, because I mostly get attached to games that I make stories for

robust shale
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Games are like potential partners. If you need to convince yourself it's not right

lone grail
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How do you choose then?

robust shale
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The right one is the one you can't say no to

lone grail
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I don't want to do something too complicated but I still want to do something that I can impress myself with

robust shale
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that's logic, not emotion 🙂

lone grail
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I'm super stressed and feel like a failure every time I think about swapping projects

robust shale
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It's part of the creative process, when you stumble upon a great concept you'll know

lone grail
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I've been doing this for 7 years and it's still happening

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I'm so stressed because I have a lot of pressure to make my game

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I get 3 days off each week and I get motivated to work on a project and I start, I get a lot done those 3 days, I go to work for several days, then when I come back It feels like a different game, I don't want to work on it but something different I dunno

robust shale
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I mean it's difficult being a creative person, you'll always have new ideas. And every project is boring after a while when it's just FINISH IT 🙂 Make sure you're making the game you want to make and commit to it

lone grail
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I think my game needs to be third person, because first and top down make me feel cramped

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that's a start

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I want female lead because most of my stories are like that for some reason, I just do it because it feels good for how i write, that's another good start

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Now the style of the character can dictate the game, Witch? Lil Red? Gundam? I dunno lol

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Once I get that I could write a small prologue then start on it

robust shale
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that's like arguing about aspect of someone you're dating :)) "I want her to be funny, I don't want her to be yada yada" Good game design and fun is not broken down like that

lone grail
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But comparing a game to a person your dating doesn't sound very good because how can everything about a game just come naturally without thinking or planning?

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Everyone does have different processes in creating

robust shale
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Spark of creativity is instant, execution takes time 🙂

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But dont date an middling idea too long 😉

lone grail
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I'm just gonna pick things I want and see where that leads

robust shale
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that's part of the brainstorming process

lone grail
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Yeah

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My creativity works in a weird way, it always has, ever since I was little, when I wanted to write, I would only think of 1 thing whether a setting, a character design, or anything and I could write around that very well and just everything falls in place as I'm writing

robust shale
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Well, you can always make soup from a stone, but better to start with some good meat 😉

lone grail
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Yeah that's what I plan on by gathering what I want and then evolving it

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There is no right or wrong way, everyone has their way

robust shale
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I don't think Da Vinci thought "I know Im gonna paint something nice for that neighbour" and evolved it into the Mona Lisa 🙂

lone grail
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I mean that's kinda how everything is started, people think about what they want to do

azure chasm
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@lone grail hello

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Im you 4 years from now

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Literally

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Dont do it without a solid game plan

lone grail
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At least I'm still alive in the future lol

azure chasm
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Lmao... Im the same way creatively

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It just flows

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However... you will get feature creep

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If you dont focus and settle on a solid game plan

lone grail
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That's what I'm saying!
Okay I'll start that first, I'll put on a movie or something and get my notebook out, tonight will be planning, tomorrow maybe impliment

azure chasm
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Good solid gameplan, like an actual game design document..

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Features , how they will work, etc. It doesnt have to be the entire story

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But an outline

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Is nice

lone grail
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Yep, I did that with my Little Red Riding hood TPS and that's probably why I keep gravitating towards it, I just lack and ideas on furthering the mechanics, because it has shooting, running aiming, walking, but I feel like it should have more, but I will start with a empty mind and just see what happens

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I think 1 issue is I've been trying to force myself to make something E for everyone kinda non violent, cartoony, but since I've been writing since I was 6 I gravitate towards moody, dark, sorta creepy story telling, it's what comes naturally to me and it's what I can write the best so maybe that will be what I end up doing

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Did you make the banana man in fortnite? lol

robust shale
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hahaha wtf

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Does he turn brown when shot?

lone grail
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Visual health system would be good just going more brown until mush lol

fresh heath
humble remnant
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Fuck the future

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Return to stone age

lone grail
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Yes kill everyone with a club to reign dominance over the village and Yabba dabba doo the fk outta there... Yabba dabba don't

humble remnant
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I think I'd rather take that than have Amazon spying who passes by my doorbell

lone grail
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Pee on it

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Spy no more

rare sparrow
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!ask Should we go back to monke?

turbid spindleBOT
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@rare sparrow, :8ball: Signs point to yes.

rare sparrow
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Welp

lone grail
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!ask Should we reinvent the bubonic plague

turbid spindleBOT
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@lone grail, :8ball: My reply is no.

lone grail
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Fair enough

bronze axle
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!ask should I eat more junk food before dinner?

turbid spindleBOT
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@bronze axle, :8ball: It is decidedly so.

lone grail
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!ask Should pfist wait until after dinner to eat anything!

turbid spindleBOT
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@lone grail, :8ball: It is certain.

bronze axle
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Hey.

lone grail
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Reverse card played

bronze axle
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That doesn't make any sense though because dinner = eating something.

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It's not dinner if I don't eat anything.

lone grail
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!ask will pfist starve to death?

turbid spindleBOT
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@lone grail, :8ball: Reply hazy, try again.

lone grail
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Okay you can eat dinner

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But only snacks after dinner

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I just finished dinner

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I don't like how that was worded

broken sigil
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🤔

lone grail
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That's pretty cool

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Does anyone do coding as a side hobby from UE4 development?

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Lol

broken sigil
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I have enough of it as a job

lone grail
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I love coding, but I've only coded inside Unity and Unreal and a bit of web snippits like 6 years ago lol, but thinking about pickup a programming language I don't know and doing stuff with it for fun outside of unreal, maybe get a job using it perhaps, I was considering Python or Javascript, never used JS, used Python a tiny tiny bit, but I thought using C++ out side unreal would make me even better at my game programming perhaps lol

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I wish I did coding as a job

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Or anything that is related to unreal or code or design

broken sigil
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I find it fun and I enjoy it but I can't be bothered to even look at it after I'm done with work

lone grail
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Yeah I get that, I work retail so I can't really relate lol

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Yeah I used to hate coding when I had to do it but wasn't very good at it, it changed once I started understanding and doing more, I still kinda suck at coding C++ in UE but I'm getting there

broken sigil
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I used to hate it, I started with 3d modeling, image editing, CG and then eventually decided to learn programming (C# and then C++)

lone grail
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I did the same

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I started with graphic design, then 3D art then coding C# then C++ more recent

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Well not recent I know all the basics and got a certificate for basics in C++ couple years ago

broken sigil
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I haven't done any 3d modeling in like 4 years now, I like it but don't have time anymore 😐

lone grail
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I gotta do everything for my projects so I do all every so often

north torrent
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If you are too busy programming to 3d model then it sounds like it is time to quit programming.

lone grail
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I do coding when neccessary, art when nesseccary, and etc when necessary

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Don't look to master everything, just do well in each and it'll all be good, have fun with them

lone grail
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I'm gonna get started on my game plan

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I just wasnt feeling it

unborn lotus
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DS8Pd3Rvsn0 does anyone know where the bending city scene is from?

Unreal Engine’s high-fidelity real-time environment lets you rapidly iterate to create the best version of your vision, catch costly design errors early, and communicate your design intent to stakeholders. From immersive VR & AR experiences to glossy brochures and marketing videos, Unreal Engine is a complete solution for your architectural visu...

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cursive crypt
austere glen
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I missed it too last time! and posted on cpp

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How do you not end up playing a few games at home while coding? I'm trying to stop a bad habit...when I'm in the zone I can code for a month without games..when I'm not..or it's boring stuff, it's so hard to resist...

rare sparrow
lone grail
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My planning stage is going well, I have lots of things written to begin production tomorrow

real palm
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How do you not end up playing a few games at home while coding? I'm trying to stop a bad habit...when I'm in the zone I can code for a month without games..when I'm not..or it's boring stuff, it's so hard to resist...
@austere glen Wait you actually play games rather than stare into the abyss when bored?

frosty halo
# austere glen How do you not end up playing a few games at home while coding? I'm trying to st...

I have this problem constantly. Had it for a decade now. What helps is scheduling the everliving crap out of your day. Coding is incredibly mentally intense you can only do so much before you lose effectiveness and your productivity/output becomes nil. I do 8am to 10am coding. Tackle the biggest problems in those two hours. Then have any meetings I need to have. That eats another hour and a bit. Then back to coding but smaller tasks till 1pm. Then I end my day. I make myself available for any work stuff, but my effective work ends. I eat lunch and do an hour of anything (gaming/3D modelling). There’s other stuff in between all of that, but that’s basically how I approach stuff.

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If you have more free time in your day and don’t have to do stuff like childcare or housework - you will have more gaps to be tempted with. Just bash out your important work at the start of the day so that any temptation to game becomes as guilt free as possible. You know you can basically afford to relax and unwind cause you did all the really pressing crap that’s got deadlines.

hasty escarp
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@prisma cedar We cant direct message you because you left our server, join our server again so we can dm you.

austere glen
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@frosty halo I have kids so when I’m not working it’s usually taking care of them haha. I don’t actually have free time so maybe I’m forcing gaming into my work time...Never really on a tight deadline these days. Makes gaming tempting indeed.

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@real palm you should stream it, I’ll watch

real palm
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you would watch me stare into an abyss?

frosty halo
real palm
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Imma tell you right now that you're gonna be so bored

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I refuse to even set that up

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!help

turbid spindleBOT
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@real palm, Check your direct messages. :incoming_envelope:

real palm
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Ay supaGOTEM I have DMs disabled here

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It works! [having another user reply to a message but then editing the message they replied to]

frosty halo
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It wouldn’t

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Wait you mean the little bit at the top?

real palm
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Huzzah!

frosty halo
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Now you can bamboozle people

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“Check my reply I never said that”

real palm
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But the edit tag is there

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Effectively, there is no way to preserve the initial message in discord with validation

frosty halo
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Well.. there is on a technical level. Just not at the cost Discord would be prepared to pay.

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And it’s not useful

real palm
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Quotes are only a markdown format and you could easily edit that as it stands

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Actually they retain full edit history IIRC in case they need it for safety&security investigations

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That has to be for a limited time period, but that period could easily be extended for replied-to messages

frosty halo
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I think you’re right. It wouldn’t be practical to retain history for indefinite periods.

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Think of the esesdees needed

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Oh the space.

real palm
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Messages at-the-time-of-reply could be stored indefinitely

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opposed to the full edit history

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and disable the reply feature (or have an alternate reply) when out of band

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idk

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It's likely not even an issue, but it'd be easily worked around if they really wanted to

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This discord already has an edit-mirror.

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When you edit a message here, it's noted within a log in a moderator-only space

frosty halo
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I don’t know too much about how they do it.

real palm
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Discord can't put those together to save space, they have to preserve them

frosty halo
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There’s probably lots of regulatory stuff as well that comes into play.

real palm
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In the case of slackers? No.

frosty halo
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You know - to ensure that if anyone’s trying to groom kids with copies of Doom or something, there’s a lot of that

real palm
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It's just so that if I happened to be an ass, they would log any changes I made to the language of a post.

frosty halo
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Log

real palm
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And Slackers could enforce action

frosty halo
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Not lot

real palm
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discord likely has an internal log of edits already, but those expire after a couple of weeks

frosty halo
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Do they have a dev blog? I’m sure they must.. would be interesting to read some of it

real palm
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I'd bet they could store the replied-to state of a message with a reply and if the current status of the original message differed it could read [original] Modified message here with two links

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that being a trade-off. Most users who would actually utilize the reply feature are competent and could be trusted to not need edits

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idk

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No visibility into discord's internals

frosty halo
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In all my time developing stuff I’ve learned the hard way that even the smartest people can be idiots.

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In every way

real palm
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mmm

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Well hopefully there can be a wide data set that indicates at least one-less-edit-per-reply and then there's a space to store the original text

frosty halo
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Ugh swapped phones last night and this one is still learning autocomplete. Thus we get the weird mistakes.

real palm
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Otherwise the standard etiquette should be to initiate a reply but also quote via markdown?

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either way, discord would be paying for the space

median wraith
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don't be like this people that give negative reviews for no reason

frosty halo
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That crop

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What’s he moaning about?

median wraith
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the asset says its for 4.25

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the guy talks shit because purchased it for 4.20 and don't works lmao

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as result the asset on store have low stars

frosty halo
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Idiot

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Actually it’s a bit worse

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An illiterate idiot

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He’s not alone - there’s tons of people like that on steam. When Baldurs Gate 3 went into early access they said everywhere that this isn’t a full game, it’s paid alpha basically, and to expect tons of bugs and stuff to break. Half a day later the steam page is full of the following:

”I paid £50 for this game and it’s not even finished. There’s bugs everywhere. Lol nice one. Don’t buy.”

median wraith
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Kinda the same

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I mean usually the people act like sheeps following YouTubers to buy something

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What can expect here on the overall of cases

frosty halo
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The point remains. If someone doesn’t wish to use their own critical thinking and instead buys whatever they see some rando on youtube buys - kind of stupid.

mossy nexus
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Never under estimate the power of people to act like under educated, overly entitled dicks.

frosty halo
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The best part about the Internet - it connected the world. The worst part about the Internet - it connected the world.

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😦

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No, actually, the best part about the Internet - I can summon food to my home.

zinc matrix
#

when will 4.26 release? today, or next week? place your bets! 😄

north torrent
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4

cursive crypt
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Yeah, its cool

median wraith
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When you buy something from marketplace and need adapt every mesh to your material system

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noice

mossy nexus
#

Thems the choices you make

robust shale
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TBH there's so many great assets with crappy textures. Going through stuff in Mixer or Substance Painter can give great results

frosty halo
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I’m still sitting here and I’m torn between feeling bad about using megascans for my project and the fact that it would take me years to make something comparable and it wouldn’t even look that good.

robust shale
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Don't feel bad. Use assets from the best. There's still plenty of credit to be taken with creativity and game design 🙂

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The "You have to do everything from scratch" attitude for indies is counterproductive

unborn lotus
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@frosty halo well is your goal make a game or make good looking assets?

frosty halo
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Well that’s sort of the thing. I don’t WANT to be stuck making really generic stuff. Only the custom stuff I absolutely wanna have. Which works fine for indoors - I’m pretty okay at making shit like modern furniture and whatnot. But stuff like.. okay so here’s what I’m actually moaning about. I have this art board for an outside scene. It’s a beach with volcanic terrain. I want there to be a cave mouth and the sides of that cave be made from basalt columns. So I know I can get rocky stuff from quixel but the columns I cannot find anywhere for free. So I started making one. But it’s a pain.

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I made this so far. Which was the easy part. And it’s not final but I wanted to test with this.

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Now it turns out I have to bake normals, AO, displacement, find a megascans texture that’ll fit with this mesh and overall feel. Then paint this as foliage onto the landscape.

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Then I started thinking - well how much of this is the player gonna see and how close will they get? Will the detail even matter?

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I answer one question and fifty pop up.

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And it’s just one dumb asset that’s causing all of this for me.

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Sorry for the rant.

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I think I need some whisky and a break from this.

north torrent
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Unless you specifically want to sell assets it is far more important to look at the scene as a whole. Look at the possible angles that the player will view the scene from. Have some cameras saved in Unreal so you can hop between the most common positions the player camera could be.

Build compositions, not assets. Look at the color of the scene, the lighting, the balance of positive and negative space.

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In the end nobody is going to pat you on the back for making rocks from scratch when you can just download rocks that look like rocks.

frosty halo
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Yeah I suppose you guys are right.

unborn lotus
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I suggest doing what I do, think of your scenes as asset packs and put them for sale. Finance your game on the way and have fun. Split them in hero level which you do yourself and filler (like megascans stuff)

frosty halo
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I’m pretty sure at this early stage people would pay me not to put my assets onto the marketplace haha

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I think maybe I’ll just focus on on scene as a whole and perhaps it really doesn’t matter that the rock I used is also used by a million other people. A rock is a rock is a rock.

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Now to find some rocks...

cursive crypt
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lmao, that Affinity is just overhyped. No basic UI customization and you can't even auto-stretch grayscale image.

lone grail
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I quite enjoy using Affinity Designer, and I like how it's not a monthly fee / yearly contract like adobe, last time I used an adobe product was 2014, it was photoshop, and it took almost 3 weeks to try and get them to NOT renew the contract once it was up, never again will I deal with that lol

robust shale
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Serif does some great stuff for sure, and nice that you can use your ipad pro

lone grail
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Yeah they stared on IOS and Mac, I was happy when the beta first came out for windows, I use it for my UI needs in unreal

cursive crypt
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Haven't yet looked at the Designer 🤔 Sure it has neat stuff inside, its just... not mature and some things are missing.

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Ofc, Gimp also miss many 😄

lone grail
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To be honest it does what I need and I don't really mind not having customizable UI, Designer is like Illustrator alternative, but it does more than just vector art too

cursive crypt
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That true, I think it fits the need of many. Apart from the UI however, I really miss stretch on grayscales. Its auto level filters are not documented and I'm not sure what they do actually. Also no any kind of scripting too (except top-level macros).

lone grail
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What kind of scripting do you do, python?

cursive crypt
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You can't switch the workspace from the menus too. Your tool options are bound to the main window which can't be resized.

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For example, yes.

lone grail
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I've been thinking about learning python or another higher level language for fun

cursive crypt
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Not a big deal tho, I use CLI tools for automations, but some specific algorithms are nice there.

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For fun? Yeah, maybe. Its also part of the work too.

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F... I really wanted to switch to something more performant and feature rich.

lone grail
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I watch a lot of programmers on youtube and they do web stuff, python stuff, JS stuff, and to me it looks pretty fun, I dunno if I'd do web but it looks like fun and was thinking of picking one up and maybe even getting a job in the future but if not just make some cool projects

cursive crypt
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Gimp on Win lags.

lone grail
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I don't like gimp very much

cursive crypt
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I like it tho 😄 It's clunky and some ops or features you don't have, but it is quite straight to the point.

lone grail
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Fair enough lol, did you just get Affinity Photo?

cursive crypt
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wtf, I can't revert to the image. I need to Close and the Open Recent, lmao

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Yea

cursive crypt
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Serif are the makers of Affinity products

fresh heath
soft night
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what you think of this year?

fresh heath
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It's a lot like Python, but a lot faster

frosty halo
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Ohhhh

fresh heath
frosty halo
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It’s like procreate

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But I’m guessing has vector capabilities?

cursive crypt
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Like Python? hahaa

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Its quite easy as syntax tho

fresh heath
#

It's compiled to native machine code unlike Python

cursive crypt
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True, I agree. However, that's most of it.

lone grail
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So is it sorta like Haxe if it compiles to native code?

soft night
#

dotnety is awesome

frosty halo
fresh heath
#

I've heard there are incompatibilites

frosty halo
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True.

fresh heath
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Common Lisp supports native compilation from the beginning

frosty halo
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But tbh we’re running Python at scale for work and honestly it’s as fast as anything.

cursive crypt
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Ah, yeah, forgot about these. cython, jython, ironpython,

soft night
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have you heard that?

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the .NET in ML solutions is actually faster than Python

frosty halo
#

the times when it turns out something is slow, it’s 9/10 times the piss poor design of the codebase and not the language speed. You’d have to be running discord or WhatsApp on Python to really be in a position to say it’s not fit for distributed systems. And even then. Depends on the system.

fresh heath
#

Google contributes to one of the main implementations of Common Lisp, SBCL, as it is used in Google Flights

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They even have their own style guide for the language

lone grail
#

If you know common lisp, would you also know Lisp? or is it a higher level implementation of Lisp?

fresh heath
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Lisp is a general term for similar languages

lone grail
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Okay, I'm trying to google what lisp is about and what it can do

fresh heath
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Common Lisp is the unification of them

lone grail
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Okay, common lisp is the megatron of lisp

frosty halo
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I honestly can’t even bring myself to type lisp. Where Python went nuts and made indentation their target, on the polar opposite lisp just shits brackets everywhere.

fresh heath
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Yeah, it combined every Lisp that was used by DARPA and others in the 80s so that people could focus their efforts on a single language

frosty halo
#

Would be nice to just write the language that’s the easiest for everyone to pick up and easiest for everyone to read and understand without trying to be all hipster and make all these special abstractions all over the place.

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Except that those are earmarks of most modern “cool” languages.

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Even elixir just wraps around erlang

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Admittedly that’s less of a problem considering how it makes it easier to write stuff

lucid walrus
bold fulcrum
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Particle part is the easiest thing in there. It is rendering system which is very big brain.

frosty halo
#

If there’s no tutorial about how to make that water - there’s no justice in the world.

lone grail
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True dat

frosty halo
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But my mandarin is about as good as Trump’s English. So it’s no bueno for me.

sharp wolf
#

what is that software called that folks use to capture images and gifs. It starts with a G, saves to online. my friend is looking for a screenshot software, and i cant remember the damn name. I use SnagIt

thin storm
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gyazo is it I think

lucid walrus
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@sharp wolf ShareX, GifCam, WebmCam... there's lots.

sharp wolf
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Gyazo!

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thats it!

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Thanks @thin storm

lone grail
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I use Gyazo it's fantastic, Gyazo gif captures mp4 for me though so I'm kinda confused on that one, unless there is a way to change the file it saves from mp4 to gif? anyone know?

deep glen
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just change url to .gif

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it also stores a gif version

lone grail
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Okay thanks Luos

jovial talon
#

@deep glen when posting on reddit I'd recommend not putting the OC flag - it will pretty much kill your post because it will spend several hours waiting for moderator approval

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So time since posting/number of upvotes will be low, and reddit will rate it lower

deep glen
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really, thats dumb hehe. but thanks :)

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never knew

jovial talon
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Yeah, I've been hit before too

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And cool skull hehe

deep glen
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thanks :)

lone grail
#

After coding on rider today as the first real taste test, it's absolutely brilliant!

cursive crypt
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After using that AP for half a day, I'm still not sure. Another issue: exporting grayscales != converting to grayscale.

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... also there is no way to select transparent pixels? Tool's settings are not remembered across sessions. And 3rd there is no screen space brush setting, which I'm used to 🙂

fresh heath
#

Twitter won't let me switch back to the chronological feed, what the hell

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"See latest Tweets instead" doesn't do anything

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Logging out fixed this, strange

fluid bloom
lone grail
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I guess since those youtube videos made it popular they didn't like it lol

median wraith
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Why this guy gave this pack back in the time

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and now totally changed the pack

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idk but when he gave it for free wasn't a mannequin that for sure

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now don't even have the woman face

fresh heath
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That's cheeky

alpine fern
#

pretty sure I remember "female mannequin" being free at some point

median wraith
#

I don't know how many times had this over my head, needed some kind of graphics that don't get super big on space or consuming... at first idea my best option where low res realistic meshes etc, but I think will go for cartoon all the way in

zinc matrix
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!ask is unreal engine 5 going to be good?

turbid spindleBOT
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@zinc matrix, :8ball: Concentrate and ask again.

zinc matrix
#

!ask is unreal engine 5 going to be good?

turbid spindleBOT
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@zinc matrix, :8ball: My sources say no.

zinc matrix
#

Ooof

mossy nexus
median wraith
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mmmm

fresh heath
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!ask Is water wet?

turbid spindleBOT
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@fresh heath, :8ball: Don't count on it.

lone grail
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!ask is water dry

turbid spindleBOT
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@lone grail, :8ball: You may rely on it.

fresh heath
lone grail
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Water is confirmed dry, you heard it here first folks

zinc matrix
#

Hmm..

lone grail
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I updated Rider for UE and now I can't use it

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Says I have no suitable license with account 😦

mossy nexus
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Yeah it's not the most eye friendly font in the world.

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Not me or anything to do with me, just sharing it for him 😄

fresh heath
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Looks very metal

north torrent
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It is not a bad header font, but you don't use a header font for the body...

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Using the font for 'Dino Sources' looks great.

prisma cedar
#

Alexander Paschall... is that the guy that 'left' epic after being 'really cool' on stream to guests?

mossy nexus
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He left to teach in Spain for a while, he's back with Epic now.

prisma cedar
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Welcome back Alexander!! alex

mossy nexus
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Well, that was fun. Marketplace drama.. 😄

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Yeah, I wasn't going to attack him on the quality of his product though as that's a shitty thing to do.

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I just don't understand why he wouldn't even entertain the idea of talking to Epic directly

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It was a bizarre reaction

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Mind you he was the same guy who claimed there was a truth to be discovered and we were all sheep for not believing in the truth, but never even told us what this truth was, only that we had to research it ourselves..

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His belief that the community would be up in arms about his mistreatment was probably... not accurate.

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Not sure @gloomy badge

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This was maybe a month or so ago. I made sure to add a note to his profile.

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Nope. it looks pretty ropey

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Maybe it did do lots of cool things, but the video(s) were very subpar

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is planning to submit his 1st asset pack very soon and is now bricking it... :D

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So MOA you slagged off that guy.. and look at your video 😄 😄

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yarp

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I have too much free time

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Yeah we get all the crazies here

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Yeah we get the~~ all~~ are the crazies here

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Cool

mossy nexus
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I have no idea what the difference is between forward/deferred

fresh heath
north dragon
# lone grail I updated Rider for UE and now I can't use it

Hey Adam, one of the Rider devs here. We've had a bug in licensing system in Rider, fix is already on the way, will be available on Friday. Meanwhile, as a workaround, you can go through the link provided in the licensing message and start 30 day evaluation period, it'll let you work with Rider until fix is delivered. Cheers!

lone grail
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Oh thank you for the reply I appreciate it, I've just uninstalled the newest version and using 2020.2.2 again, I'll just wait to update tomorrow

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Today is the first full day using Rider and Rider > VS * 1mill lol, I'm totally purchasing it when it fully releases in 2021

mossy nexus
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If anyone is curious about the guys pack search YouTube for "PixelSkeleton3D"

north dragon
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Oops, answered wrong msg, my bad

lone grail
#

Alls good lol, it's 6:02pm Thursday for me right now lol

#

I can make people disappear in your time 😮

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I dunno anything about the marketplace drama

mossy nexus
#

Might have been

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Woot

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🙂

lone grail
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Did you switch to forward rendering?

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What for?

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Ahh, noice

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how is msaa compared to taa

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Lol

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Lol I havent worked in forward so I wont touch it incase I mess everything up

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Yeah but there is potential for doing something lol

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Yeah I want the fancy features so I'll stick with deferred

lone grail
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I just learned how to make variables in C++ extend to blueprints, this is very exciting and it was super easy lol

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Yes

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Damn can't get variable from C++ class in AnimBP

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Oh nvm I did it, I forgot I didn't build after inserting BlueprintReadOnly

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Ayyyy I changed animation based on C++ variable, baby steps but I'm progressing with the code

broken sigil
lone grail
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I can see the light

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I changed the characters animation based on if a button is pressed or released for aiming, and I figured that out myself which makes it feel special

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Time to make a super quick anim instead of using the falling animlol

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That looks really good so far

lone grail
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It's a pretty good feeling staying up a bit late but actually making progress

lone grail
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Damn I dunno what I did but now my aim anim isn't playing when aim is pressed 😦

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Okay I'll try it

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You are right it's working now, thanks

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I just need to figure out how to not allow sprinting while aiming now, because if(aiming) issprinting = false; doesn't work for some reason

fresh heath
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Where are you setting that?

lone grail
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I have 2 functions for sprinting and 2 for aiming for the press and release, and I set a bool true and false respectively

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I had the if statement above inside the aiming press function

lone grail
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Timelines in C++ seem very complicated

cursive crypt
#

So, yesterday I evaluated Affinity Photo and PhotoPaint. Looked at what other alternatives there are for more technical workflow (manual tools, layers, color spaces, UI customization, automation, etc. VS fancy effects templates, high-level operations). Turns out, the alternatives are really Photoshop, Affinity (somehow) or Gimp/Krita.
PhotoPaint is too high level, tho has nice asset explorer and some interesting effects. Also clunky as speed and UI.
There were 1-2 MacOS only tools, several web-only tools which is out of question and the rest are too basic softwares.

plucky pagoda
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Affinity is awesome

cursive crypt
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Tell me how you deal with grayscales then? Normalization, 8-16 bit conversions, linearizing, correct white point space.

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Channel work is a bit clunky too, no scripting, too basic UI customization...

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It is not bad per se, very performant, has nice layer features and others, good tools.

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Anyway, I figured out some workarounds and will use it, but if it is not for some advanced stuff which Photo workflows use (e.g. panoramas, hdr) I better stay with Gimp / Krita, lol.

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Right tool for the right job as they say.

unborn lotus
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10E per month for photoshop is nothing, less than my phone bill, no hassle with workarounds

north torrent
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My Photoshop document is 14,000 x 11,000 pixels... Does that make me a bad man?

cursive crypt
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haha... nope, no Photoshop, no point to jump there. I'm highly relying on my tools and I don't rent them to work (as much as possible ofc) or stay cutting edge.

rare sparrow
fresh heath
median wraith
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Yeah nice

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I sold 3 total units since 2015 thanks to their web and 15 from my web

carmine frigate
#

Make hevedy president of itch! 🙂

zinc matrix
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ello

median wraith
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someone here have a C4D ?

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legal*

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Got a file that needs to get exported as FBX but cannot open it

fresh heath
carmine frigate
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@median wraith what kind of file?

median wraith
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got a file that's free from art station

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and I need the meshes

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to import them inside Blender

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so technically can be fbx or obj as are buildings

carmine frigate
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whats the extention?

median wraith
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c4d

carmine frigate
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try the unreal C4D plugin?

fluid bloom
#

wasn't embark studios working on some game using Rust? 🤔

fringe sundial
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yes

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this guys really like to be on the latest bandwagons

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tho honestly rust is very legit on "serious" gamedev

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specially for engine code

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how many times have you crashed Cpp from a null pointer?

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well thats impossible to do in rust

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nullcrashes straight up do not exist there

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another is that code in rust runs exactly the same on every platform

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"safe" rust has fully defined semantics

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so if it runs on PC it will run exactly the same in console, assuming its safe code, and doesnt deal with platform difference

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it also makes multithreading trivial

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very trivial

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the donwside is that actual development speed in rust sucks

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rust compiles even slower than Cpp, and the compiler gets in the way all the time

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so when you are coding tons of code fast in early stages, rust really gets in the way

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on more mature projects, the safety and bugless parts become a much bigger deal

serene oriole
fluid bloom
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@fringe sundial yea I know 😛

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<--- has done a paid client project using Rust

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best 6 months of my career tbh

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😄

fringe sundial
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@serene oriole terrible guide, sorry

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for animation these days you really want to inspect Insights

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as it gives you information on how parallel your animation goes

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and inspecting that is crucial

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the STAT things are good for a very high level overview but thats about it

serene oriole
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@fringe sundial That's a great advice. Thanks! I'll try the Insights.

fringe sundial
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in insights you will also see much clearer how much time is spent on actual animation blending (this is done in worker threads) vs anim-bp logic

carmine frigate
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also the amount of bones that move is nothing, its the amount of verts they push

fringe sundial
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not really

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the amount of verts doesnt matter

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amount of bones is important, but thats because they are calculated on cpu

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the gpu can handle literally tens of thousands of animated mannequins no problem

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animation only bottlenecks on cpu

carmine frigate
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those are 100% weighted to 1 bone

fringe sundial
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that doesnt matter

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the shader will still do the calculation for 4 weights per bone

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couse thats what its hardcoded for

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and again, you understimate how brutal modern gpus are

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the logic for bone transformation is nothing to them

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rendering animated meshes and static meshes takes about the same time on modern gpus

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due to how fast they go

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the problem is how unreal calculates animations, which is super slow

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first of all animation BP is slow because BP is slow, as usual

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tho you can move that to cpp

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second is that unreal animated graphs often are crazy megaoverkill

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people stack 9999 blends and state machjines and iks on top of each other

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and this takes time to process (on cpu)

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and third is that after animation is done, unreal has to update the physics bodies of the mesh to physx (physics asset) and it has to move the objects attached to the mesh. That one is horribly slow

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thats why you need insights

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you have those 3 parts, and the timings in the STAT capture kinda mix them

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anim bp logic, animation calculation (parallel threads), updating attached objects/physics asset

fresh heath
median wraith
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Is just me or this is the asset from Epic metro combined with the free vagon they gave

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edited textures etc ?

fluid bloom
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what metro?

mossy nexus
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Looks very very similar to Dekogon Studio's free asset (monthly?)

fluid bloom
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I don't think it is

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the hand rails next to the seats are shaped differently at least

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other one has sharper curves

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the other one has a smoother sloped curve

rare sparrow
#

Looks based on the same train, but it also looks different enough to not be just an edited copy

fluid bloom
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ceiling is different

mossy nexus
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If they are both based on real life things, similarity is to be expected

rare sparrow
stiff crystal
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@zinc matrix are you seriously going to spam the whole group with DM's?

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pretty sure this is not ok with the group rules

zinc matrix
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@stiff crystal ?

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hello?

fluid bloom
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😄

zinc matrix
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can I ask what are you talking about?

fluid bloom
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[08:35] jonimake: I tend to call those people out in public on the shared server I'm on with them
[08:35] jonimake: they're usually like "huh? What message? I don't understand"

zinc matrix
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sorry

stiff crystal
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I'll also ping <@&213101288538374145> in case others complain about him

deep glen
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@zinc matrix
" begging for support or sending unsolicited DMs asking for help is considered harassment and may result in an infraction or a permanent ban, depending on severity."

stiff crystal
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well, technically it's not asking for help but it's violating the spam rule at least 😄

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I don't really see why the rule says about asking for help specifically

deep glen
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!strike @zinc matrix sending unsolicited dm's.

turbid spindleBOT
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:triangular_flag_on_post: Tomas Wood#3767 received strike 1. As a result, they were muted for 10 minutes.

cursive crypt
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Manny, a cheerleader.

mossy nexus
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!ask did you enjoy that?

turbid spindleBOT
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@mossy nexus, :8ball: Very doubtful.

mossy nexus
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!ask are you a cheerleader?

turbid spindleBOT
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@mossy nexus, :8ball: Better not tell you now.

mossy nexus
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eek

lone grail
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I keep going back and forth trying to decide if my magic game should be Third person or Top down perspective 🤔

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What is first person top down?

fresh heath
lone grail
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I thought that's where you were going with that but I've heard some crazy stuff before

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Lol I have a very specific game I'm making I'm just unsure about perspective

median wraith
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ArtStation

Re-Lighting for the subway reflections/sequencer demo from Epic Games. I kept the original two spotlights at the main entrances but removed all other spot and point lights in the scene, using instead the emissive materials of the lighting fixture assets to help light the scene (no IES makes me quite sad!). Added a skylight and exponential height...

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yeah seems different

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don't think someone spend all that time editing these

lone grail
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Noice!

carmine frigate
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the League weebo vid also had a metro

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i think Metro 20somethingsomething also had a metro but i never made it that far 😛

frosty halo
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^ pretty hard to miss the first level you start out with unless you did a true Russian playthrough and began the game so drunk that motion but got permanently fused to your screen

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Blyat 2033

carmine frigate
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i did start in a tunnel but there was no train

frosty halo
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Dismantled for scrap to make a still 🤷‍♂️

mossy nexus
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@plucky pagoda That's what I said. Since I last looked in any depth to it they have changed the Ts&Cs. That loophole is no longer there.

plucky pagoda
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You have to be crazy vigilante about piracy. Discord, Facebook etc... shut down servers & pages in an instant for allowing promotion of piracy.

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It's not worth risking the server so someone can give away a few animations to build their own Youtube and Discord server.

fresh heath
mossy nexus
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There used to be some legal mumbo jumbo saying stuff about not sharing any unaltered animations, which would have meant anything altered was exempt. I thought it strange-ish at the time, so I'm not surprised it's gone. I also can't see any Mixamo specific stuff either, which there used to be.

plucky pagoda
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Oh, yeah, never saw that.

carmine frigate
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last time i tried mixamo i had to go trough some messy creative cloud stuff

plucky pagoda
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That'd be nice. I keep a project with all the animations on their Xbots and retargeted to the manny so I can grab them if I need them. Haven't used them in a long while though.

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Yeah, they just killed Fuse.

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Said they've updated the website for Mixamo and new tools will be coming. But they've said that before.

mossy nexus
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If I want to use Mixamo anims, I use the convertor made by Terribilis Studios, which can do them in batches. No retargeting required.

frosty halo
plucky pagoda
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Oh, cool. Yeah, if he could just share the animations that tool wouldn't be necessary.

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@mossy nexus Yeah, wow that's a really nice tool.

mossy nexus
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It's not perfect, but it get's the job done 99% of the time.

frosty halo
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wrist bones not included

pearl pewter
fresh heath
#

Mixamo seems to struggle with wrists the most for some reason

lone grail
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Oh damn someone ran over the wrists with a tractor

zinc matrix
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thank gosh I hate getting spammed with dms

lone grail
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I didn't get spammed but must've been because I wasn't around at the time

zinc matrix
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Rarely happens and when it does its the worst

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yeah i find the active users get dms the most

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How are you adam

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havent chatted with you in awhile

lone grail
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I've been pretty active, I was just asleep when it occured lol
I'm doing pretty good, trying to figure out how to not let my player jump when aiming in C++
How are you doing?

zinc matrix
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pretty good

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Been figuring out ubuntu

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I have windows on my main machine

lone grail
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A new OS is pretty exciting, I've never used linux before

zinc matrix
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But my second is using ubuntu as less system resources and a buddy is helping me with setting up a perforce server on it and using it as a server

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Its got 1tb and Im gonna get backblaze since linus shilled me on it

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it should be enough for now so I have backups in case windows breaks on me again

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Lost about 5 videos of my course work due to the last one

lone grail
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That's pretty cool

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Oh losing stuff is less cool

zinc matrix
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yeah thankfully it wasnt much and it took me a short period of time to restart it

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still have section ones finished prototype and my personal project

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the uproject file was missing from the project I lost and a few files were corrupted so I wasnt sure what happened

lone grail
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That's kinda weird, what kinda course is it?

zinc matrix
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Uh blueprints

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I had a ram issue though and windows kept bsoding

lone grail
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Oh okay I bought the C++ one but barely touched it lol

zinc matrix
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after I removed that stick it ran but Unreal uses 98% sometimes ticking to 99% of the Cpu when adding in an asset so I did a bunch of updates including the bios, and cleaned up my startup stuff.

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Then overclocked my cpu since my cpu is pretty weak. And everything is flawless

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even my network lag on online games is gone

lone grail
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That sounds like a mess, but hey if it works it works

zinc matrix
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oh yeah I know

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but my bios was like 10 versions old

lone grail
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I don't think I've updated my bios since I built my PC in 2016 so not as bad

zinc matrix
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think there was some other drivers from the website I needed too.

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yeah im on amd and the cpu I bought is kinda weak and not needed since I bought a gpu shortly after.
The ryzen 5 2400g.

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first game though to actually show some loss in performance Was Far Cry Primal.
as well as unreal using the cpu.

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learned that ubisoft games benefit from single thread performance

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So imma upgrade to the Ryzen 7 3700x since for what I need and cyber monday and it already dropping I might be able to get it for a steal

lone grail
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That'd be nice, I want to upgrade but not the right time right now and I haven't decided how far to upgrade yet

zinc matrix
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8 cores instead of four and a higher ghz.

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i see

lone grail
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Noice!

zinc matrix
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5000 series though is sold out for the most part and is surprisingly expensive for no core count upgrades here

lone grail
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I got Intel i5 6500 3.2, and GPU is a GTX 970

zinc matrix
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I think some r7 5800x were available earlier on newegg if anyone needed one but everything else was sold out

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ah not bad. My old pc has an intel i5 2500 cpu. its saying 3.70 ghz but its supposed to be 3.30 ghz

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(i think something is turboing it maybe)

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my main one has an rtx 2060 super

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and then the old has a gt 610

lone grail
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Mines not looking so bad lol

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Mine can actually still run pretty well everything I need to at high settings

zinc matrix
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hehe yeah compared to old pc.
Not sure on the cpu of the new one vs yours

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My rtx 2060s for the most part runs everything at 60fps 1080p at very high to ultra

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ill grab the benchmark pic I did with far cry primal

lone grail
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Pretty good, gotta test with farcry 6 coming out lol

zinc matrix
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yee but I havent played any others for some reason

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Far cry primal was kinda cool so I bought it

lone grail
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I have barely played any farcry but I own all of them somehow

zinc matrix
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Heard they copied the map straight outta the prev tho

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I liked the klingon approach I saw they did with it in a developer vid

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whole new language

lone grail
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Yeah that was pretty cool

zinc matrix
#

fallout 4 and 76 I have the most hours in strangely enough and it runs them fine

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but they arent benchmarked these days lol

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I have borderlands 3 which I had strange hitching in heard they Switched from ue3 to 4 which caused some performance issues

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I think I fixed it tho with all the updates I did tho As I tested for a bit to see if the frames were stable

lone grail
#

They added bunch of physics too which could cause it maybe

zinc matrix
#

mass effect 3 is the last test I have to check

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prev I was getting 23 fps with that game (apparently the steam reviews were plagued with similar issues)

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Witcher 3 is another ill have to try since I think its more demanding than majority of my other games

lone grail
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Yeah I heard it's really demanding on PC

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I finally solved my issue of not mixing jumping and aiming in all situations all in c++, what a relief

median wraith
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A store using my private phone in google and their website

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Me an intellectual giving away things becuase is blackfriday to every client that calls me

zinc matrix
#

I love it actually

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I was a simp tho and bought first for a year

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Lol

zinc matrix
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no spoilers but the bos update the other day was great

plucky pagoda
tulip orbit
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😆

mossy nexus
#

Thats a surprisingly good effect

zinc matrix
#

let me guess a mole rat killed the person playing

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them mole rats be the scariest thing in the game rn

zinc matrix
plucky pagoda
carmine frigate
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i hope its gunna kill the fly

zinc matrix
#

I see. Im level 170ish I think

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level 100 mole rats are evil

carmine frigate
#

hmm, mayB this gamejam ill make something that runs 99.9% in the material editor 😛

zinc matrix
#

id use a flamer if I had a legacy flamer with explosive bullets

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I think they exist but they dont drop anymore

carmine frigate
#

iwant to play with chaos, but dont want another source build

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well niagara is working and it has a content examples

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i actually like it better than cascade

mossy nexus
plucky pagoda
#

?

mossy nexus
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As in I'm stealing that

plucky pagoda
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Ah, cool, I just stole it from someone in voice

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😆

mossy nexus
#

Yup. Agreed.

carmine frigate
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yea dont worry, thats still based on previous gen 😛

fresh heath
neat forum
bold fulcrum
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@carmine frigate Sir, that was very inappropriate of you. Your post incured a sizable moral damage, property destruction and loss of reputation. Please refrain from doing so in the future.

zinc matrix
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👀

thorny dock
#

I was scrolling through the lounge and suddenly all these bugs came out of nowhere, think I can RMA my ASUS monitor saying something short circuited and imploded from within? (which would explain the perfect punch oval coming from the exterior to interior)

median wraith
#

Natron insteresting tool

pearl pewter
#

Smagget mac nagget

fresh heath
foggy path
#

It makes me wonder how much does that cost if ran on dedicated hardware

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I think those estimates are based on running the training data on something like AWS

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Unless they make advances in training methods, AI's are rapidly going into a direction that only large enterprises or governments can afford to train them

solemn steppe
foggy path
#

wat

foggy path
#

I'm assuming it's referring to extinction lol

fresh heath
brittle dove
#

@foggy path It wouldn't be cheaper running it at home, or on a small datacenter worth of hardware you put together yourself.

unborn lotus
#

Enough for?

balmy shuttle
frosty halo
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Don’t we have a channel for this instead of having them DM people at random??

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A bit annoying.

mossy nexus
#

It's against the servers rules too

" begging for support or sending unsolicited DMs asking for help is considered harassment and may result in an infraction or a permanent ban, depending on severity."

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Message a Mod, or not.. 😄

frosty halo
#

@tall plume - is this something you need to be aware of? (Above)

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I don’t even know what the due process is. So if tagging you isn’t the right thing lemme know.

tall plume
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Ah, yeah, thats against the rules but i just climbed into bed

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I would say ping @ moderators but most of us are asleep

frosty halo
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I forget the time diff. Sorry!

tall plume
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I put a note in modchat

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If nobody gets it, ill get it in the morning

slow gyro
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!strike @crude storm Sending unsolicited DMs, asking for help.

turbid spindleBOT
#

:triangular_flag_on_post: SErve#6905 received strike 1. As a result, they were muted for 10 minutes.

slow gyro
#

Could already give them 2 strikes actually, given you are not the only one

frosty halo
#

I just wish people read rules instead of trying to be cheeky. Plus their whole message is like - come help us for exposure. If they want exposure I can send them pics of me flashing in a trench coat.

slow gyro
#

I sometimes feel like all of those accounts are the same person.

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It's always the same stuff. Bad grammar, royalty, throwing in random stuff like "We have a GDD.", great for you, so do the other 17.000 dead projects.

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And then always these totally over the top goals. A Battle Royal. No money to pay their devs, but sure enough to pay the infrastructure required for this.

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Which they probably have no idea of. It's the "I make an MMORPG" all over again.

frosty halo
#

Your post just made me sad in the context that it actually is really hard to make a game as I’ve come to realise. And I’m one single person. Prepare the game graveyard!!!

cursive crypt
#

It's oke. That field is covered by the bodies of fallen devs.

frosty halo
#

But muh dreams

cursive crypt
#

(headpat) Many addicts experience the same, some of them grow over it.

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... not very reassuring 🤔

frosty halo
#

No it’s not. But it’s true

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Sometimes remembering it’s a hobby and may not end up in a fairytale ending of becoming da bezt artistè in the world is a good thing.

mossy nexus
cursive crypt
#

Everyone should understand why he is doing it. Dreaming for glory & money is one thing say. Doing it just for the sake of doing it, is another thing. Retrospection...

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@mossy nexus yeah, feed on your fellow devs

mossy nexus
#

😄

frosty halo
#

Well I started this to stop myself from burning out on dev. My hobby after my day job was more programming. So I thought - learn something that isn’t programming. That’s the main goal. If I turn out good at a particular aspect of game dev, that’s a massive bonus but not the end goal

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The end goal is to prevent me from hating my profession cause it’s all I ever do or think about.

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Cause my personality is such that if I pick something up - I will do it to death and beyond. Until it’s dried up and useless.

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And then I burn out.

cursive crypt
#

Why games tho? There are millions of other things.

mossy nexus
#

ping pong

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space hopper

frosty halo
#

Games have an aspect of creativity. I can sculpt, model, compose, control every aspect of everything.

mossy nexus
#

flabbergastery

frosty halo
#

And I’m an avid gamer.

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Made sense.

cursive crypt
#

Hmm 🤔 I don't nominate myself for your therapist, but - so you say its because of creativity and control?

deep glen
#

gamedev is 99% losing control and solving the problem XD

#

"ahh lets do a relaxing day of making vfx"
spends whole day reinstalling everything because windows/fighting 3dsmax/ue4 has an off day

frosty halo
#

Control over what I do and influence. Not control of what comes out haha

#

There’s tons of stuff that can go awry

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But that’s part of the fun

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Like last night I just spent the evening learning to create falling boulders from a sky island I made

#

Was fun

deep glen
#

yea, just making fun. there are good days, and there are days where you just want to burn the house/office and become self sufficient in a small wooden cabin on the hills.

frosty halo
#

And I learned some stuff

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And I’m still not 100% sure I want to keep them that way. I wanted to use niagara but I couldn’t figure out how to spawn meshes

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And I don’t know that flat Boulder shape textures would look as nice even though they’re gonna be obscured by fog and low lighting.

deep glen
#

you can spawn a loooot of things in cascade/niagara

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including meshes

frosty halo
#

Radiosynthesis. That’s pretty big

fluid bloom
#

water is a better shield though

#

that's just dead weight

#

water has other uses 😛

frosty halo
#

Same with water - you have to lug so much of it into space to act as shielding.

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Plus how much of it can you recycle if you use it as drinking water?

fluid bloom
#

you mean how well the ISS can recycle water?

deep glen
#

generally the water underneath the plates is not accessible for drinkage

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but still a decent backup source i bet hehe

frosty halo
#

You’d probably need what.. 60cm thickness to eliminate 3/4 of the radiation

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In any direction

deep glen
#

not sure i want radio synthesized mushroom soup

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but, who knows. in the future we can use it to clean area's we polluted

frosty halo
deep glen
#

< havent used niagara yet, but I know it can.

north torrent
#

I think the hardest part about being a solo developer is keeping to a schedule and putting in the time even when nobody is watching or motivating you.

cursive crypt
#

Probably for some people. For me, it is setting down on practical goals.

slow gyro
#

Man, Niagara is so crashy @deep glen

#

Effects that use SkeletalMeshes have a setting for "WholeMeshLOD", so the LOD level that defines the whole mesh.
-1 uses the worst, so let's say you set it to 0. Now if you have a SkeletalMesh that has MinLOD set to 1 or higher, so 0 is stripped when cooking, you gonna crash xD