Then best I can tell you is to look up hella videos on those guns and if possible find a local shooting range with one
#lounge
humble remnant
thin glacier
I’ve seen plenty. 1/20 of a second is barely noticeable
foggy path
if it's hardly noticeable then it might not be worth implementing it
just added complexity
but if it's noticeable.. well.. at least I hate it when there's lag between click and bang :D
I guess it could be maybe okay if the game has a more methodical pace and is not like a very twitchy shooter
humble remnant
If there's gunfire, there will be some twitchiness
thin glacier
I don’t have much of a choice anyway. The gun is made up of static meshes, and I have a timeline between the trigger being pulled and the round firing
That timeline moves the bolt
Also, I’m using the M1A1 Thompson as a reference. It has a fire rate of ~700 rounds/min, which is ~.085 seconds between each shot
broken sigil
or when a competitive game has a delay on a shotgun shot..................................................
thin glacier
I can guarantee that the game will have no open-bolt shotguns
This will be singleplayer anyway
broken sigil
I've been playing rogue company and pretty sure they have a pretty noticeable delay on shotgun shots, just why.....
thin glacier
Yeah that sounds fucky
topaz harness
I'm not the only one who gets shy when applying for things right-
spice viper
thorny dock
If you aren't shy applying to places you must have the resume of a seasoned developer (20+ years). Why would you hire me, someone who has realized their inner passion, drive, persistence, skillset, path forward, ect.. over someone who had a programming internship at sony at age 12?
cursive crypt
oh, design talk
topaz harness
I mean I need to learn coding but I know... art, I guess? Like h, my portfolio has like 1 professional thing but that professional thing is like half a decade old and looks like hot garbage
There's also so many artists h
cursive crypt
#career-chat , but if you doubt yourself you can always ask for reviews. Also you can work on something meanwhile so you have something to show. Why would a employer choose you otherwise? Willingness is good start, so use the time to bring some fruits to show.
thorny dock
The way I see it, is that there is more to art or programming then your raw skill and experience. Being able to work with others, communicate, unblock your self, persist through hard times, are all invaluable skills on it's own. There are millions of people who are better then you and me, but there will always be places for people like you and me in the industry, as long as we want to learn, better ourselves, grow as a team
topaz harness
I always feel like that one meme like "graphic design is my passion" when I say things like... yknow, I want to work with a team on a game?
I've been the only artist on a team before, it was kinda fun, but that was also a school project-
lone grail
I was almost recruited for a few teams before but they were all "We'll pay in exposure" so I declined, would be cool to actually make a pretty cool project with a team as a job
I made some animations but damn I dunno how to make them look better they are too stiff
fresh heath
Twitter
lone grail
I've never used the graph editor for my animations, that seems like the issue to crappy animations lol
topaz harness
Bro I'm awful with animations lmao
I just
"Ok I'm gonna make blinking really stiff"
lone grail
Lol
I just made a shield bash animation and it doesn't look great, I played around with the graph editor but I don't get it really lol
I love when I accidentally fix my glitches 🙂
fathom wadi
You know what the problem is with Apple dropping to 15% royalties?
When they were at 30%, they still used Child Labour in the cobalt mines of the congo. They got caught doing that. Now they are at 15%, they need to use more child labour to pick up the profits. Because they will do it again. This is the third time they have been caught and they won't stop. So if you think this looks good now, wait until the fallout.
azure chasm
rare sparrow
Searches an hour through list of a thousand free assets without finding it
zinc matrix
ello hows it going
zinc matrix
Im alright been procrastinating a bit
lone grail
I've been procrastinating all day, made 3 shite animations in 2 hours and now procrastinating again lol
zinc matrix
Tomorrow I'm getting some stuff from where I used to live. So just trying to move a few things back in my room
lone grail
Oh that's good
zinc matrix
Plus I misplaced a bit of cash so Im trying to find it
lone grail
Forget about it and be excited in the future for free money lol
zinc matrix
Unreal I only opened for a bit on saturday just to play around. Was gonna join a jam but I had too much stress to actually do anything with it
Fair lol
lone grail
Game jams are stressful, I tried to do a couple and just couldn't do it, I rather work on my project with smaller goals in reasonable time frames
Also I think I might be an odd one out but I kinda hate animating with IK
zinc matrix
yeah I havent done one yet myself plus tbh I prob should be finishing a course before Doing a jam
I dont know enough in Unreal to actually make my own game yet
lone grail
Ahh
zinc matrix
im hoping once I get my stuff Ill be pretty much stress free to actually get started
lone grail
That'll be good, once you make progress with stuff it's very fun and motivating
zinc matrix
lol yeah
lone grail
I can't make a game in 3 days by myself so I gave up lol
zinc matrix
yeah fair I like the game jams that allow for outside assets
yeah there is a few week long jams
lone grail
I don't got 7 days to do a jam though 😦
Owell I don't want to do any game dev project away from my project
zinc matrix
ah makes sense
lone grail
Does anyone know any reference or videos on animating melee combat in first person? I'm struggling so hard
Yeah I always found that too but I could never stick to one project for that reason, and I'm forcing myself to stick with this project now
lone grail
I actually like that first animation, could use that as reference for my down attack but less exaggerated since it's first person, It's just hard to get it feeling right in first person
I've never seen tracing with animating but I have thought of doing something like that, for third person it'd be good, not only are the attack anims bad I feel like a lot of things in my game don't quite feel right, but I'm sure that'll smooth out as I go
Yeah Ive done that
I can show you what I got
Posing to cross the correct places in the camera is easy enough, it's just the arms and hands look wonky as hell
This is how my animations look so far, also I do think I need to lower the arms a bit lol
actually the horizontal attacks look good close to middle but top poke attack is way too high for some reason lol
Yeah I tried that and it doesn't look like anything changes lol
I use the action editor to set them up, but I tried the graph editor to edit them but there's so much going on and not a lot happening when I change all the lines lol
I've used that channel as a reference when animating, I have like 5 key frames per animation which I thought was too many for the simplicity of them
dim ruin
@zinc matrix Witchblade should have a game. Agree or disagree?
zinc matrix
@zinc matrix Witchblade should have a game. Agree or disagree?
@dim ruin I can agree tbh
dim ruin
that hot mess Sara is what drew me into the darkness lol
they cast her like shit in the tv series though
lone grail
I kinda feel like scrapping the directional combat as you look, and do more press button to do attack but I dunno
I wanna do medieval, I could just throw infinite spears lol
Yeah those games are sorta my reference for my world building and story telling
I might throw away my directional combat and just do button combos like every other medieval combat game
lone grail
I might just give up on this game... yet again like all the others 😓
unborn lotus
I gave up on everything I ever started, and each project is simpler and simpler, only now do I feel sort of confident I can do it. But there's no weapons, combat, characters, AI, etc. 😆
humble remnant
Should be the opposite
The only way I'm seeing that happen is you hit a brick wall and either can't get through it or your way there led you to smashing face first
Even the biggest project can be done if you separate it into mini tasks
lone grail
I seperate everything into mini tasks but it's just stupid things happen bugs that don't seem to ever be solved, and it's just a bunch of crap that piles up, I take on difficult projects because I can never come up with anything small, all my ideas are best suited for larger projects or more detailed projects
My current issue is the shield bash can be spammed to the point of getting the character stuck, I've used a multitude of bools to solve it as suggested online and it doesn't do anything, plus my combat system is kinda shite and I have to rework the entire game if I change it
unborn lotus
It's like an ice skating number. will you choose something super hard that can score 10/10 but you can only do it 3/10, OR pick something easy that can only get to 5, and do it 5/5?
lone grail
I'll never make a mobile game or mobile style game so the 2/2 games are out, I wanna make games like Dark souls, zelda, shit like that, that's what I've worked years towards but I keep hitting walls naturally, I just don't know what type of game to make that is "easier"
humble remnant
I myself work on an insufferably long project, namely a MOBA
For my case I've made ground up units, status effects, abilities, projectiles
But I separated it all into smaller chunks and piece by piece
lone grail
Yeah that's how I've done every project ever, it is the best way
humble remnant
I actually have a YT playlist that shows a gradual increase in complexity
lone grail
I have a YT that shows prototypes I work on and abandon like crazy
humble remnant
And looking back on it, interesting how I've reached this point
lone grail
I've definitely come a super long way as well, but sometimes I just feel like I've wasted almost a decade at the same time
humble remnant
Mine turned into a complete framework more than anything and I've used it to participate in a number of jams
I'd say creating your own framework would be the first thing to do, though you'll have to work by its current iteration and also be tech support for yourself there
unborn lotus
@lone grail I for one think if you want to get your foot in the door start small and have that small thing done and out. I have to balance freelance job and UE, and Id love to have a project out that can provide income so I can cut the freelance part out and just focus more and more on UE.
lone grail
I always start by doing the base mechanics, and important features like health, and then start to spread out by one thing at a time
humble remnant
Have you tried the side project ritual?
lone grail
I work retail and try and work on my project in my free time, been doing so for 7 years, I've learned a lot along the way, I just want to find something and get it done, I wanna make a game I can be proud
I dunno what you mean by ritual, but I've had many side projects and it's just distractions to get nothing done on the main
humble remnant
It's more of a mindset to get yourself into
lone grail
I just want to work on 1 project and get it done
humble remnant
Find something small to do consistently, for up to a week
lone grail
I spend all last week removing over 75+ projects from my harddrive so I could focus on 1
humble remnant
Designate exact schedule on when you'll work on it and turn off everything else, except maybe background music
lone grail
I do that
humble remnant
It can be a small story, some music, a small game
But just something really small
Before starting you might want to get a superstition started
lone grail
That's the problem I dunno how to make small, only big
humble remnant
Even if you don't believe in superstitions, try eating or drinking a specific thing before starting
Just the smallest consistent off-topic task
lone grail
I always watch devlogs before I jump into working on my game for motivation
humble remnant
My point is more in something about consistency
lone grail
But I'm just so uptight because I want to work on a game so badly but I keep jumping off because something goes wrong
humble remnant
You'll watch a dev log, see 100 ideas, then jump on your project to implement them and you hit a brick wall of where do you start
lone grail
It's hard to have consistency when I can only work on it when I can
I don't get ideas from devlogs
I just used as motivation to get straight to work
humble remnant
It's still an inconsistent variable that happens before you start working
humble remnant
No matter how little attention you pay to it, it's new information that you take in
lone grail
Well wouldnt that be with anything then?
humble remnant
And it stays on the back of your mind
With a new devlog each time, it's not consistent
lone grail
If I do things that are repetitive I get super bored and uninterested
humble remnant
If you watch the same one there might be a point
humble remnant
Just a small task right before you start
Nothing serious
Something like closing your eyes for a minute, eating or drinking something specific
lone grail
I can't do it
humble remnant
Or a small set of words you say right before you do
lone grail
I get tired of things, I wouldn't wanna do it if I did it every single day for so long
For me that type of thing doesn't work
humble remnant
It's a matter of trying it consistently
lone grail
I can work consistently without all these things
humble remnant
If you tried for a few days, there won't be an effect
It needs to be longer than that
lone grail
I have no problems getting to work though
humble remnant
Would you describe your experience as burnout?
lone grail
Possibly
I'm super desperate to work on my game and try to whenever I'm not at my retail job, I work on a project 7 days a week almost trying to make something I can be proud of but also something that might help me get out of my job
humble remnant
I think you might be getting frustrated with yourself at this point
lone grail
Most of my ideas are like First Person Medieval ARPG, or third Person Souls like, and I've been working on games like that for a long time but they always end the same way, I hit a wall I smash my face against for so long and give up
I'm frusterated with myself and work all the time
humble remnant
You're forcing yourself to work as I see it
lone grail
Working on a game is the only time I can feel free
humble remnant
That's why there's the side project ritual
lone grail
Well seeing my gf makes me feel free too, which is why I wanna make a game she will like too
That wont work for me
When I create something I wanna finish it and not get side tracked with other projects, I abandon projects all the time and I need to not do that by finding the right game to work on
At this point I have no idea what that may be
humble remnant
Even if you find the best game to work on, you may become (and probably are) in a burnout
lone grail
Yes but at least I could work on it like I want
I'm burnt out from my day job on a daily basis and that wont change until I leave, and that wont happen until I make a project I can finish lol
I'm in a vicious cycle I cant get out of
humble remnant
Then split your tasks and do them 1 or 2 a day, dedicate no more than 2 hours on your project so you can be more focused
If you don't have a design document, make one
lone grail
Well today I spent 2 hours doing 1 animation and getting pissed off at that lol
humble remnant
A design document can be your side project
lone grail
I suck ass at animating, I am getting better at posing but because blender does funky things I can't make it feel any better than it is
humble remnant
Just think of what you need to do for the game, what difficulties it may encounter and what way it can be pushed for more interesting gameplay
lone grail
Well I did that and made a directional combat system which is half my game, and now I wanna scrap it, actually I wanna scrap the entire game right now
humble remnant
And do that out of engine, out of blender
Get a notebook, some colored pens and pencils, and write and draw things down
lone grail
I feel like if I'm not working on my game I'm wasting time
humble remnant
You'll still be working on it
lone grail
I write things down all the time, I can't draw for shite though
humble remnant
You're just preventing your future self from getting more frustrated
lone grail
I use a trello board to keep myself organized with goals, ideas and bunch of stuff
I dunno, I only have tomorrow to work on my game and I want to get a lot done, in my current project I have shield bash that is spammable and can't be fixed apparently, and a block, with directional combat system so I'm done most of the ground work except some issues, but I dunno, I dunno what to do, I dunno if I should make a new project, I spent weeks trying to figure out what genre, then the style and then get to work but then in 1 week I change it all
humble remnant
That's why a design document
Paper versions of the game, no matter how weird that sounds
humble remnant
Even for a realtime game, a paper version helps a lot with the direction you want to push
lone grail
I know
I just need to spend the next month deciding what game to make now
Then I can do that after I am burnt out again lol
humble remnant
I'm honestly not convinced you've done your design document right but deep down I hope I'm wrong
lone grail
The last game design doc I made was for a third person shooter, I wrote a 3 page story for the introduction of the game, summary of the main character, I listed about 12 enemies and 2 bosses, I described the main scene in detail with the first 5 missions, and made a top down blueprint of the beginning area
It was a total of 6 pages with a page for the blueprint
humble remnant
And how did that project go, did you get burned out and jumped to something completely different
humble remnant
I personally tend to have a folder on my desktop named "Scraps"
lone grail
I keep choosing first person games because I don't need to animate as much, but I'm thinking about not doing that because first person can kinda suck for a lot of games
humble remnant
It's full of placeholder drawings or txt files of random ideas that popped up in my brain
But couldn't manage to fit into my current project
lone grail
If I wrote down every idea that popped into my head I'd never stop writing lol
humble remnant
And so I write them down and leave them there
lone grail
My mind comes up with endless ideas all the time, but I might do the third person shooter again, I did really like that idea, I didn't even get stuck with anything except level design but thats easier to figure out
Though I always tend to wanna make ARPG games like dark souls or even a top down zelda to make life easier, that's whats on my mind now is like a 3D Link to the past kinda thing
humble remnant
I try to ignore the thoughts of big projects in my mind if I believe what I've taken on is big enough
Though even for such grand ideas I'd write down "link to the past" in Scraps and leave it there
And that's it
lone grail
I thought of that because it's actually smaller lol
tiny ice
Hello, guys. I'm a bit annoyed right now, so I wanted to do a minor vent to people who can understand.
UE4's Play In Editor is a sin against consistency... That is all. Have a good night.
lone grail
Yeah I need to do something with a story to be happy with it, I know arcade games can have stories but I need more substance
humble remnant
You did say that you want to start small, so do that
Placeholder combat, placeholder quest, placeholder talent tree, improve where you believe you need to
Don't polish from the start
Get something good enough and leave it at that
lone grail
I do placeholder everything for sure and never polish
I think I'll get my TPS back from my backup hdd (my laptop) and make that my primary project again
Would you like to see how far I got before I abandoned it?
humble remnant
Try to finish something when you can
But if you can't finish it and feel getting frustrated, mark a note and go to the next thing
You'll come back at a later time with one idea that would fix it
That would be interesting, but I'm going to bed really soon
I tend to pop in the server for the occasional help in blueprints or other UE problems and peeps here have generally been helpful
lone grail
Yeah, I do need to take time away from it when getting frusterated, I was going to bed before this convo started but I stayed lol it's been interesting though
This is what my TPS looks like
I'll be off to bed soon, just gotta get that project back first so I can continue tomorrow
humble remnant
And to respond as to what I've been doing for way too long now, https://youtu.be/NkrpWcRTkwI
Seeing all the systems come in together is always incredibly satisfying
humble remnant
But I didn't eat the elephant by starting from making my mouth as big as possible
But I'd assume you've done that already
lone grail
Yeah, gotta cut it down piece by piece
Don't make your mouth fit the elephant, make the elephant fit your mouth
tiny ice
Whaat? Its not like the final product?
Worse. Most of the time it is like my final product, so when editor specific oddities occur, I assume it's my fault.
lone grail
When in doubt play in external window
humble remnant
What helped me get into the side project ritual is participate in game jams
lone grail
Ooo game jams stress me out lol
humble remnant
Just motivate myself to do something different, even if I don't publish a game
Or try to make the most ludicrous thing with the code and assets I already have
Just for a day
Something small
I participated in the spring UE4 jam and that was really fun to get my mechanics pushed to their limits
lone grail
I did make a first person game where your weapon is objects laying around throwing chairs, rocks and stuff at people who died instantly with ragdoll applied and massive impulse, that was fun lol
That was just a day project I made for fun
humble remnant
What you see in the video up there, for the jam I turned it into a stealth arcade game
lone grail
Stealth games are fun I like those
humble remnant
They're a bastard and a half to code though
I'd recommend avoiding them if you can
lone grail
I bet, I did make a prototype of a First Person Splinter Cell in Unity back when I used that, it was fun but it wasn't very in depth
humble remnant
Depth starts from the design after all
You can't decide to add it mid way through development
lone grail
I mean mechanic wise since it was just a fun lil thing
humble remnant
Ah, then sure
lone grail
Only reason I abandoned that project what the engine swap
humble remnant
But if you do get sidetracked, make sure it isn't something that can potentially frustrate you
lone grail
Okay I will try that
I'll stop letting dark souls influence me in making a game like it
humble remnant
Stealth games are a prime candidate for what can get you frustrated
The amount of debugging and repeating over and over can lead to burnout much quicker
Maybe instead of your project, play some games that may resemble it
Or even some old classics that you haven't played yet
One game I'd recommend, despite its age, is Unreal
It's on Steam by Unreal Gold I believe
And it's made by Epic, running on UE1
Despite its arena shooter mechanics, there's ways you can stealth around parts of levels and if that doesn't work, return to arena shooter
It doesn't have anything to annoy the completionist in you either
You aren't told how many secrets you missed or how many enemies are left alive
lone grail
Dark souls is my favorite and I play it every so often so that's why I wanna make games like it, I setup my TPS again and it works as it did perfectly, sadly I don't really have games that are similar to my TPS which is a Gothic Victorian ERA TPS and a choose your own adventure kinda thing, I dont have games like it lol
I have Unreal 1 and 2 on original Xbox lol
humble remnant
Then look into its separate parts
Victorian era TPS
And choose your own adventure
Bioshock Infinite and Life Is Strange
lone grail
Bioshock isn't anywhere similar but life is strange could be helpful for the CYOA part
I'm actually using Grimm brothers stories as inspiration for the Victorian story part
lone grail
Yeah, I actually looked at Gears of war for some of the third person feel
Just to get the third person feeling right
It's not the same but it's in a good direction and feels really good as is right now
I better get to bed it's getting closer to midnight lol
lone grail
Yeah it was interesting and helpful, thank you for it
humble remnant
Hopefully I catch you around asking questions
lone grail
For sure
humble remnant
Good night
lone grail
Goodnight, and goodnight to everyone else that is lingering lol
nova herald
Works great 👍
Hey at least it compiles even if it crashes instantly, enought work for one night 🙂
analog bone
What would be the best way to slowly turn players screen from colorful to black and white?
I was thinking of animated post process, but is there any simpler way of doing it?
analog bone
Oh, sorry!
rigid talon
Is it worth bothering with Houdini for procedural landscaping if the apprentice version doesn't even let you interact with ue? Speaking from a cheap, broke student perspective
north torrent
Never used it. I heard you can do cool stuff with it, but if you don't have the money why bother? Not like it is a necessary tool.
rigid talon
True, I was curious since you bump into it now and then on the internet, and it certainly looks cool.
primal spoke
Anyone know when 4.26 will release? or estimated release?
mossy nexus
Some time this century.
primal spoke
@mossy nexus nice cave tool, btw.
mossy nexus
To answer your question, I don't think there is a set date for 4.26 🙂
gilded vigil
its meant to release this year
fresh heath
Hopefully it won't be very buggy, the Chaos setback makes me nervous
primal spoke
I gave up on chaos tbh
quiet narwhal
next week? thanskgiving holiday so doesnt sound like it. week after? outlook seems plausible
foggy path
Chaos setback? It didn't work as promised?
fresh heath
It was removed
foggy path
I guess there must've been some bug in it then 🤔
humble remnant
I was happy that Chaos finally has collision with other objects and not just floor/other chaos objects
But when packaging a game, it literally crashes on startup
humble remnant
Cracking eggs because I'm hungry
primal spoke
chaos is....dare I say....chaos.
humble remnant
I've been liking it better than Apex so far
Mostly because the performance on non-Nvidia was actually pretty good
And the fracture editor has been better for me
primal spoke
I'm most likely gonna do all my destruction stuff in Houdini, tbh.
I wanted to do it chaos, but....
humble remnant
Didn't RT get improved
unborn lotus
Gpu lightmass?
humble remnant
Isn't Houdini kinda expensive
primal spoke
no
Houdini has a free version and one for commercial for like $260 or so a year i think
the expensive part is the learning curve, tbh
foggy path
Tbh 260 a year is a lot if you're not making money out of gamedev :P
fresh heath
Yeah
foggy path
And yeah I realize it says "commercial" there, but you'd probably need that if you want to sell what you're making
fresh heath
Especially if you live in a country with broken currency
AMD should bring back Ruby for their demos
lone grail
I got houdini indie for two years it cost $360 cad a year which is like 25 a month or something, but it was really fun to learn fire and stuff like that but it does have a steep learning curve, I tried to learn animating in it but not many info on that out there, if I could animate better in houdini than blender I would purchase it again right away
zinc matrix
well i wanted to show this in work in progress but its only for ue4 so i guess ill show it here 😄
https://i.imgur.com/ZHWIsXf.png
loving how it looks
based fallout 2 action point system
lone grail
OMG Houdini has a new character rigging and animation toolset KineFX I think imma go buy Houdini again!
zinc matrix
i never spend money omg
lone grail
I mostly dont spend money but if I really want something I'll spend money here and there
north torrent
The currency here is broken in both directions...
lone grail
Most projects I make suffer because of my shite animations I do in blender, if houdini KineFX looks really good then I'll try it out and if I can make nice stuff then I can do anything! lol
Our currency is lower than America so a lot of things cost a lot more
But nothing like Brazil lol they have it rough
north torrent
Well, my Ryzen 3900x cost me $200 more than it would if I was in the US. But that's the first major purchase I have had that cost me more.
A lot of other stuff I can get way cheaper here.
The custom PSU cables I had made for my new PC were less than half the price it would have cost me in the US. My PC case was also way cheaper. Pretty much anything short of the CPU and GPU are cheaper here.
lone grail
Yeah I just checked it costs 200-300 more here than in America too
north torrent
Motherboard was about a $5 markup, but that is a small enough margin that it could fluctuate with the currency rate.
lone grail
That's not too bad, here everything is just more lol
north torrent
Steam games are cheaper if you pay with ¥ as opposed to $.
My monitor was the same price as the US.
lone grail
Dang when a game is 59.99 in American, it's 79.99 here, so the next gen games are 89.99 here
foggy path
Does 59.99 american include sales tax? 🤔
north torrent
I buy most of my games with USD$ other than Steam.
lone grail
No
foggy path
most US prices are announced without sales tax afterall
lone grail
59.99 without tax in US, 79.99 here without tax
north torrent
My Epic Games Store is set to United States. Same with EA Origins, Rockstar, and Ubisoft Store.
foggy path
Yeah, AAA games here are 59 eur which is roughly 69 USD but that includes our VAT
lone grail
That's pretty good
north torrent
Up until corona virus I would just buy stuff that was cheaper in the US during my twice a year trip to the States. But now going to the States is a very bad idea if you want to leave again.
lone grail
Yeah lol, I've never been to the states and never plan on it
A lot of people who live near the border always go across to get cheaper stuff like food, and some other stuff people may need or want
foggy path
I was in the US for a month a few years ago before all this craziness started, it was alright :P
north torrent
I just go where people treat me best and buy where people aren't trying to rip me off.
lone grail
Yeah I don't have that option lol
north torrent
I'll go where the pay is good and he hours aren't long.
lone grail
I also don't have that option lol
I work a shitty retail job again until I release a game and sees what happens
north torrent
I don't like jobs where I am treated with disrespect both from the boss and from the customers...
lone grail
Yeah it's hell but it's all I can get, I went from a super shitty retail job to a shitty retail job, that's my im desperate to get a game out there
turbid willow
lone grail
I make cool prototypes that are fun but I abandon and make myself feel like crap when I do
north torrent
I reject the mainstream.
north torrent
The idea that games should have combat and skill trees and inventory crafting systems and mini maps... I reject all that.
lone grail
I like combat
mossy nexus
Make a rock simulator
lone grail
Anything with simulator in the name is bound to be doodoo
north torrent
Rock is dead.
humble remnant
Baba is you
lone grail
What's baba?
fresh heath
You
mossy nexus
Baba Yaga simulator
fresh heath
It's a shame Baba Is You was never ported to the Wii U, an opportunity was lost to call it Baba Is You U
Or just Baba Is U, not sure which one is funnier
lone grail
Houdini is 299USD and in checkout I thought they were only gonna charge me the same, the exchange happens after payment, it's 408.78 CAD, owell it's not like I'll be able to buy a PS5 this year anyway lol
north torrent
I think I am going to get Marvelous Designer.
primal spoke
I wonder if unreal users will get a discount for Houdini considering Epic is a minority owner now?
fresh heath
Unlikely
north torrent
Reallusion has a grant program for Unreal users now.
primal spoke
I have CC3 from Reallusion already
I haven't bought the whole sha bang tho
Reallusion nickel and dimes you also
north torrent
Have you applied for the grant?
north torrent
It is just a simple form you fill out and they might give you free stuff. Just tell them what Unreal project you are working on.
If they like it they give you money.
primal spoke
oh ok
north torrent
Money Tim Sweeny gave them...
north torrent
You have Headshot, right?
north torrent
It is half price right now.
primal spoke
I'm gonna check rn
north torrent
I honestly think if you are going to use Character Creator you absolutely need Headshot and SkinGen.
Without those two plugins it isn't worth it in my opinion.
primal spoke
I got it when those things didn't exist
north torrent
Well, without the 'Ultimate Morphs' pack that comes with Skin Gen I wouldn't be the least bit interested with Character Creator.
primal spoke
the bundle I want from them is ~$6,000
north torrent
That's really the bread and butter that makes it useful.
I am not going down the motion capture animation rabbit hole just yet. Maybe next year.
primal spoke
One problem with Reallusions is that there are too many bundles that have overlapping products and different prices
north torrent
I hate their website.
primal spoke
Its hard to tell which ones cost more for what you want
I once used a spreadsheet to track all the options to decide, but i never pulled the trigger on the purchase
north torrent
But having Character Creator lets me quickly make 100s of iterations of characters and then decide on the most effective version. Then I can take that and refine it in Zbrush. But it makes the concept phase of what I do much quicker and effective.
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north torrent
So as much as I hate the website, I like the product for my workflow.
primal spoke
Yeah, IDK if I should go the CC3 to Maya to UE route or CC3 to Iclone to UE?
north torrent
Right now I just do Character Creator and Zbrush.
I want to get Marvelous Designer to make clothes and stuff.
fresh heath
It is just a simple form you fill out and they might give you free stuff. Just tell them what Unreal project you are working on.
@north torrent Where is it? I can't find it
north torrent
I will send it to you in a moment.
I am trying to create characters that are good enough to drive the value of my IP. If I ever do make money off games, which is very unlikely, it will be because of the value of the Intellectual Property and not off the game sales itself. IP is where the money is at in the modern world.
primal spoke
Quick cash in the game dev world is in assets and tools.
I heard a great analogy the other day
The real money made in the gold rush was in selling shovels.
limpid crow
Good afternoon
humble remnant
I fully believe the future for indies is to create a solid framework, good enough game to showcase it, then tools to let people create as they wish
limpid crow
I have a question not sure which chat would be appro. - I am doing some virtual production and want to send 2 virtual camera views to 2 different tv monitors... is that even possible on one machine without using nDisplay?
north torrent
Selling assets is a more reliable way to make money, that's for sure.
But I don't want to do that, nor am I looking for a reliable way to make money.
mossy nexus
FaceBook + Blender what could possibly go wrong 😄
north torrent
I do this as a hobby. But if I do ever make money on my work, which is not the goal, it is going to be based on having an IP with a built in fan base and selling said IP.
Corporations want a built in fan base.
foggy path
If you're not making any revenue out of it it'll be a harder sell unless it's very large tbh
People are starting to wise up to the fact that just having fans doesn't mean they're ready to spend money on something
north torrent
fresh heath
@north torrent Thanks!
mossy nexus
Colour me sceptical but having to own one of their products first sounds like bait... lol
north torrent
That's an odd way to look at it...
They are giving grants to people who use their product to make games and movies. So if you didn't own their product you probably aren't using their product to make games or movies.
You would have to be a pretty hardcore level of stupid to buy a product just to gamble on the chance of getting a grant for your project.
humble remnant
Lottery with extra steps
north torrent
Be a game developer just for the slight chance of getting grants.
fresh heath
lone grail
Let's not fix it just abandon it lol
hasty cargo
in 1000 years people will wonder what it was ever used for or how it was built
limpid crow
that's horrible
hasty cargo
lol
soft night
build your secret Vault there
humble remnant
Won't be very secret if it's 100m up in a wireframe tho would it 
rich quiver
@fresh heath also no money to repair
and the government dont own it ether is also a problem
zinc matrix
ello hows it going?
lone grail
What engine is that if Mannequin is in the wrong one?
solid aurora
in 1000 years
Warhammer Fantasy RPG rulebooke
will be new bible
image
Tome Of Corruption as basis for chaos religion one thousand years later
fringe sundial
nah, no one cares about fantasy
but 40k?
oh thats so getting mistaken
Holy God Emperor and the 4 chaos gods
specially once they find the inmense amount of memes about it
fluid bloom
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!
fringe sundial
thats heresy
fresh heath
Praise the Omnissiah!
There's already a Machine Cult in Taiwan: https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-a-snack-protects-taiwan’s-tech-how-magic-continues-to-thrive-in-the-technologically-advanced-nation.329093/
thorny dock
I wonder if unity shutting down their connect platform is a bad sign
runic briar
Yes! And I finally got in an order for a 3090
fluid bloom
anyone know any good 27" VA panel displays? Flat ones :\
median wraith
<Today we’re announcing that on February 4, 2021, Unity Connect, our dedicated talent and sharing marketplace, will shut down.>
lone grail
Rigging in houdini is brilliant with the new system
dusk dragon
@ionic flame how do u think the guys from the game that i posted are doing?
silver aspen
what kind of playerbase do you want sonicphi
dusk dragon
it doesnt need to be huge, cover costs and make some money
silver aspen
look into POE
i think the lead dev of POE has a great talk about building a sustainable player base
but like that wasn't the main topic of the talk
dusk dragon
i think ive seen that
i dont understand how tank can say the costs are so high
when an amazon server costs like 9 bucks per month
even if i have like 100
which i will probably not have
the costas are still not that high
the marketing might not be enough but saying that multiplayer games dont have free marketing is just not true
players naturaly want to play with friends so they tell their friends about the game
even bad games have free marketing
if they are multiplayer
not saying its enough
theres less than 10 competitive shooters in the market right now
if that is not potential i dont know what it is
i ve looked
those cost estimatesa re ludicrous
i ahve 2 shipped games
i ahve a farily good idea how much a single palyer game would cost
well ye, but thats not how i do things i outsource a bunch of stuff so i can get very good deals
clicker heroes for 60000
what the fuck
i could make clicker heroes for like 1k
i still think you are over estimating the costs
i might be wrong
only time will tell
from what ive read, mostly any monetization model should sufice to cover server costs
im gonna run it on playfabs
they charge for calls for their service
and they give like 10million free
unreal cedar
playfab servers are not the same as api calls
dusk dragon
they also give 750h free for server time
i know
but i will do a soft launch so i can have a feel for the price
the api calls are relatively unexpensive and i wont be making many calls
i am keeping most of the stuff in steam so that its free
i think the only thing that i am doing right now for playfab api calls is the login and the matchamking stuff
EOS doesnt do proper matchamking unfortunately
its like a server browser, like steam
playfab has a proper algorithm with tickets
i am actualy gonna leave the game in development mode for the softlaunch
and see when i hit the limit
nova herald
Inb4 you misplace a decimal and spin up 100k worth of servers on launch day
humble remnant
A small price
Speaking of EOS I need to see if it gets proper integration with UE4 already
A server browser would be really nice as long as I don't host the master server
nova herald
Hey my game only came up at $36,000 to develop. Which I know is b*******, I have way more than that in time into it already.
Although most of that was experimenting and learning. If I somehow lost everything, I could probably get back to the current state in 2 weeks
rare mauve
what i would give to just magically get over this neverending hump of "learning" and actually be able to just make the game
humble remnant
You never stop learning
rare mauve
a little bit of learning makes it interesting yeah. i just feel like dev'ing for UE is a perpetual process of 70% learning 30% doing 😄
humble remnant
Doing happens from the depth of your design
If you make an arcade game, it won't have depth
If you make an RTS, you're in for a ride
fresh heath
Did he push Facebook to fund Blender? https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1329558415618826244
Twitter
I haven't heard anything, why should Roosendaal leave his place?
north torrent
I'm drinking celery orange juice.
plucky pagoda
lose a bet?
bronze axle
Hey loungers. 👋
rare sparrow
Hey loungers. 👋
bronze axle
The replies are real.
The prophecy has come true.
It's the replacement for quotes. If you don't see it, refresh your client and it will replace Quote in the context menu.
Or you'll see a reply icon when hovering a message.
Pretty nice feature. Basically a nicer UI for quotes. I like that you can click the original message.
rare sparrow
There's also a nice option to choose if it pings the person you're replying to. Enabled by default
bronze axle
Yeah, it's nice they made that optional. May not always want to ping folks.
Especially if you reply late and the other user is asleep.
humble remnant
Damn, I'm still on just quote on this server
It's above the message
It has @ ON in blue text
Somewhere right side
Click that to toggle
rare sparrow
Not sure about mobile, but on desktop it's here
humble remnant
On mobile it's the same
Oops
I think I sent with ping
Pardon
Forgot I was replying
rare sparrow
I hope they change it to be disabled by default. Makes more sense imo
humble remnant
Yeah
rare sparrow
Like a nested ping? I think it just pings the person you're replying to
humble remnant
We can try
rare sparrow
And if there's an @ in the quote it doesn't ping either
bronze axle
That's nice. That was an issue with quotes.
humble remnant
You were supposed to ping me
Or just someone
Though yeah
I guess it's gone now
Since replies don't count as part of the message
bronze axle
@humble remnant OK, try this one.
bronze axle
Reply to meeeee
rare sparrow
<@!166258390580985859> OK, try this one.
Okay
humble remnant
Absolutely
fresh heath
Gabe Newell is about to launch a rocket: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZGI_lHGltA
humble remnant
I always malded when people quote the quote and it pings me for no reason
bronze axle
Gabe Newell is about to launch a rocket: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZGI_lH...
Wow. Bringing Steam to all the people of the galaxy.
humble remnant
And the autoping being gone at least by toggle is nice
humble remnant
Welp
Pressing Ctrl-R suddenly killed my sound
Guess using VAC has its downsides
At least a reset is quick
humble remnant
Not very gaming of you
rare sparrow
Works just like it should 
fresh heath
Yeah, for charity
For every viewer of the launch, Newell has pledged to donate $1 to the Pediatric Intensive Care Unit New Zealand's Starship Foundation.
thorny dock
is this their response to threads? what happens when you reply to a reply?
bold fulcrum
is this their response to threads? what happens when you reply to a reply?
Replies are so ugly.
rare sparrow
It's basically an upgrade to quotes
I'm sure they're getting a ton of feedback for threads now
soft night
make it messy
bold fulcrum
Still better than quotes yeah
ancient hornet
you can click on the quoted message to view it now, that's the only real upgrade I guess
rare sparrow
Optional tagging rather than deleting the @ . Quoted message isn't part of your message, so a reply won't also quote the previous quote. If the quoted message is edited or deleted it reflects that in the quote. It displays the username of the person being quoted without needing to ping them. And of course the quote now links to the original message.
If the message you're replying to has an @ in it, then the quote will not also ping them like it did previously
dim ruin
😂
$1500 for the UE4 livelink plugin for iClone lulz
hurry though! Its half price right now! 😂
I'm trolling their sales team right now
it's late, I'm bored. its an easy target
north torrent
It's free for indies.
proud pier
$1500 for the UE4 livelink plugin for iClone lulz
It's free for indies
But yeah. iClone is kinda crazy with pricing
foggy path
But yeah. iClone is kinda crazy with pricing
ohh it's the new reply button, had to press the reload button to update
neat, it even gives you an option to turn @ on or off
...not sure if I'll ever use it tbh because it's kinda complicated as opposed to just typing...
:P
tidal ivy
there's also the quote feature which just seems to work better tbh
tidal ivy
not anymore
@foggy path I can still quote
soft night
quote is always better
foggy path
well if you don't want to lose your quote button don't update discord :P
tidal ivy
I am updated
tidal ivy
wonder if they're A/B testing or something
foggy path
could be
ancient hornet
they were releasing it server by server somehow
I don't think it's A/B testing when it's server based and not user based 🙂 probably something about a rolling release/server update tech reason
quote is pretty useful only when you bring something far away I feel
but then it's neat because it allows you to jump to the quoted text fast!
north torrent
quote is pretty useful only when you bring something far away I feel ~Stof - Nov 20th, 2020 7:07pm~
ancient hornet
I mean the new reply 😄
north torrent
I'm oldschool.
mossy nexus
there's also the quote feature which just seems to work better tbh
Agreed, although this allows you to jump to the 'quoted' message
north torrent
Should I buy a watermelon, Mr. Stof?
ancient hornet
at least for the "link back" feature it's worth it
though I admit indeed it looks weird as hell
ugly
north torrent
Is Anthem still a game?
tidal ivy
I don't think it's A/B testing when it's server based and not user based 🙂 probably something about a rolling release/server update tech reason
@ancient hornet it's user based, not server based. I have quotes, not replies
I can however see replies
ancient hornet
I think your client needs to be updated too or so?
ancient hornet
that's a weird A/B testing when it seems most people are on the new version 😛
humble remnant
Try Ctrl-R
Fixed it for me
And I'm pretty sure it's server based
Some servers got it earlier for me
wraith hornet
Totally random question... I joined a server the other day and subscribed on a channel (if something is posted in that channel the message gets sent to my server too). Can I leave that server and still get the updates on my server?
rare sparrow
It should still work
fresh heath
carmine frigate
thats allready a win for 95% of ios devs 😛
frosty halo
fluid bloom
Agreed, although this allows you to jump to the 'quoted' message
oh is this a new thing?
nice
mossy nexus
Yeah.. old posts and stuff are easier to follow now
fluid bloom
made some christmas swastikas
exactly what I did 😄
I actually tried to make these during the summer too but stores were out of plum marmelade
topaz harness
Bro imagine drinking coffee
north torrent
I drank a coffee once.
fresh heath
When you save a scene made of a single voxel, MagicaVoxel generates a 24 kilobyte file
I hoped its scene format would be simpler
primal spoke
What it takes to start a game studio https://80.lv/articles/empty-fridge-and-cup-noodles-developers-on-launching-game-studios/?s=09
"We ate ketchup, mustard, horseradish (and beets) for three years." Wow!
fluid bloom
cup of noodles = expensive, void of any nutrients
soft night
noodles with carbonara pasta so good
north torrent
If your argument is that cup noodles are not cheap, then you must live on a different planet than the rest of us...
fluid bloom
for the same money you can buy a kilo of taters and some veggies to go with it
north torrent
The fact that other things are cheap does not make something expensive.
fresh heath
Are there any voxel editors with really simple output formats?
foggy path
Man this is getting kind of exciting... lol
fresh heath
BTC price?
foggy path
yeah
fathom wadi
this is the turnaround for the smaller banks to get their investments built in. The big banks did it a while ago. We are gonna end up a cashless society within 10-20 years for sure.
fluid bloom
cashless as in cards only or cashless as in no banks as institutions anymore?
fresh heath
MagicaVoxel can actually export to QB, that seems simple enough
zinc matrix
Does Unreal Engine have a thing for adding loop cuts on geometry?
foggy path
yeah Finland works as a cashless society pretty well, you can pay with a card pretty much anywhere
I do not believe that blockchain will be any kind of a major player in the currency or payments space though
if it is, it's definitely not bitcoin
fluid bloom
we almost got an izettle for our student nation (osakunta) bar but then we realized we don't want a paper trail of selling cheap booze and beer
back in 2012 or so
foggy path
lol
fluid bloom
I guess btc would work better there 😄
foggy path
I think btc is going to just be a high risk investment vessel
fresh heath
Bitcoin is the only blockchain that can survive sybil attacks
foggy path
I have no idea what that is, but aren't bitcoin transaction costs rather high for day to day small transactions
fresh heath
That's why it can survive that
fresh heath
That's the only viable candidate, so I guess no blockchain for currency then
foggy path
what possible benefit would it have for banks though 🤔
fluid bloom
I really have no idea
foggy path
yeah... :D
fresh heath
Banks have no use for blockchains
fathom wadi
lets face it though, its not too far off the quantitative easing they do with physical money.
flat lion
btc is a very high risk investment, but on the plus side you don't lose more than your initial investment, and you don't technically lose money if you don't sell
foggy path
as long as you don't use leverage lol
flat lion
yeah, leverage is a very bad idea considering how volatile btc is
thorny dock
who would invest in btc at this point? didn't something like 60% of the bitcoin wealth die with someone who never shared the password to it?
I thought thats when the market took a mad dive into hell
foggy path
if you bought after the 2017 dive you've made a pretty good buck at this point
primal spoke
well the fact that they _aren't_ cheap calories was my point
they absolutely are cheap calories, not the best calories tho
foggy path
I've 2x'd my investments if I sold right now
flat lion
if 60% of bitcoin is locked forever, means supply is low
foggy path
If it goes past 20keur valuation I'm probably gonna start looking at selling
because that's the highest point it has ever gone, so if it goes past that... it probably won't stay I suspect
flat lion
yeah, its very close to the pre-crash level
thorny dock
Do you manual trade or use bots?
and do you convert and circulate using forex or whatever the cash savvy kids are doing these days?
foggy path
I've mostly just bought slowly over time to minimize the impact of the volatility, I don't trade unless it's some big event like this
it's too much of a game of chance to pretend like I have any fucking idea how to day trade lol
flat lion
i used to do arbitrage, but exchanges have their own bots to close those gaps and profit for themselves
plucky pagoda
OMG, I love this. https://youtu.be/8HZ4DnVfWYQ
thorny dock
man... you've got me considering it
flat lion
i'd advise you to wait till it crashes again, too high atm to buy in
foggy path
Yeah it feels like it'll crash because of the huge price spike, at least based on how it's behaved before
But in general, invest small amounts over longer period of time
this way you mitigate the impact of the changes in value
applies to a lot of investing in general
flat lion
yeah, that's good advice
foggy path
tbh if you don't have any investments I don't know if I'd suggest BTC.... Funds are an easy one to start with and they generally aren't as crazily volatile :P
flat lion
i tried trading and shorting back before it crashed, it became very stressful cause i was checking the prices every few minutes, you'll get lost in it and likely make bad trades unless you're already a veteran trader
foggy path
Yeah
Best to just buy with the expectation that one day the value will go up and not worry about how it's looking right now
thorny dock
That's very true, yeah that's what it's looking like. that is great advice indeed
I know btc isin't the best way to have investments but it's definitely fun, and worth like you said, putting small amounts in while it's low. definitely nothing to bank on yet
I had a friend who said that btc was the future, way back when it first came out in 2009. neither of us ever did anything with it. we talk about it all the time, if we had just put a few hundred into it back in the day WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, we would both have millions today 😭
foggy path
I got some dogecoin way back when
Coulda got some bitcoin but nah
I have 100 000 dogecoins!
worth about 200 bucks lol
thorny dock
hahahaha I would never sell it, thats a trophy imo
foggy path
lol
median wraith
all these videos with youtube channels with a single video sure aren't ads for cyberpunk ?
flat lion
that's some really impressive compositing, tracking and camerawork
reminds me of Simon Stålenhag's work, in that it mixes high-tech and rural/everyday stuff
plucky pagoda
https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1296918541627793411
wow I didn't read the whole thing 😄
I know this was a very old conversation but I just saw that tweet. I missed that sentence and think it's important. It definitely has an impact on my opinion and had I registered it at that time I think I would have had a different take on things.
thorny dock
I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on it
plucky pagoda
Without that context it seems more self-interest motivated. Of course, there is an element of self-interest but his position on things like this has been extremely consistent. That small easy to miss sentence makes a big difference in that it shows, no matter how small in that particular email, a focus on a larger picture rather than being entirely motivated by self interest. When I talked about it before, even though it was several months ago, I feel like I made a mistake by not catching that and taking it into account.
flat lion
i'd be inclined to be cynical too, but epic games is the only company consistently and actively supporting game devs and related projects
I started out with Unity, but i'm giving UE a shot cause epic games seems to put their money where their mouth is
foggy path
Having done stuff in Unity and UE, I definitely spent more time in Unity just "engine programming" instead of "game programming"
I'd rather be game programming than engine programming if I'm making a game lol
flat lion
yeah, it bothered me a bit that in Unity there's a lot of stuff that isn't built in, but scattered in the store
I spent a long time following a tutorial on youtube to code a simple orthographic RTS camera, and UE just has it as a basic template ready to go
cursive crypt
I'm not even programming.
median wraith
Looking good
the PS5 is having crashes on streams and games crash too
pretty next gen
soft night
bronze axle
The PS4 crashes, too.
soft night
those what ps5 offer for it panels is great
median wraith
yeah I mean crashed like 4 times already
soft night
like art like that
plucky pagoda
My PS4 pro is a crashing pro
bronze axle
PS5 is a new console. There are going to be hiccups for a while.
fringe sundial
i wanted to buy one, but found it impossible
bronze axle
i wanted to buy one, but found it impossible
Same. 😦
soft night
not that Xbox Series X got it issues
fresh heath
humble remnant
Interesting
foggy path
not sure if I'm a fan of that new reply thing
I'm seeing some conversations on other servers with a lot of people using it, and it's making conversations really hard to scan :\
maybe I'll get used to it but at least for now it seems a bit bad
dim ruin
aww man, I think I might buy Creature. I wanna play around in it so bad lol Looks pretty awesome for 2d
There's Dragonbones as a free alternative but Dragonbones looks about the same level of pain in the ass as Spine
Anyone else here have any experience with any of those 3 to give some feedback?
plucky pagoda
Spriter
dim ruin
I tried checking that one out but the link to the site was toast
ah ffs. its fine now lol
Is it comparable feature-wise to Creature and Spine?
plucky pagoda
probably, haven't used it in awhile
dim ruin
its showing previews for Sprinter2 and it looks pretty good at a glance
plucky pagoda
They've been promoting spriter 2 since mastodons roamed the earth
dim ruin
and the price is nicer. Spine and Creature both have this retarded license model where you have to first purchase the basic version and then you can purchase the upgrade to pro. Like, don't be douchey, just say Pro is $150 lol
plucky pagoda
Just don't buy it based on getting spriter 2. That teaser is over 2 years old
plucky pagoda
Lol, I downloaded like 30 of them and keep changing it
dim ruin
are they just gifs?
dim ruin
Well, spriter does look neat but v1 is definitely missing some features.
Spriter 2 looks like it is probably going to catch up to the others though whenever that might be
plucky pagoda
For under $100 it and dragon bones are pretty much it. Don't remember creature
dim ruin
plucky pagoda
Ah yeah, it was still new when I was last doing that kind of stuff. Idk, for $50 you're not risking much.
dim ruin
runtime feature-wise, its about the same as spine, perhaps maybe a few extras but the creation pipeline definitely looks much more streamlined
This isn't for any project in particular. It just looks fun to play with lol
Troll friends with animated memes of their face, stuff like that
fresh heath
The YouTube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ntmvwjiG_fht6itvM7IgXtVxksdm6gbn0
bitter hinge
fresh heath
light saffron
zinc matrix
huhu. https://i.imgur.com/iUXqtPo.png aprox 10k logs. does this mean its 1 draw call?
median wraith
does that get logged ?
This is the reason because I hate this kind of games
300 ally units in pursue of a single enemy general
the enemy in middle, half runing forward, other hand backward nobody attacks other than randomly each x time
and acts like if they were protecting he
but what game is that actually ?
that's the forest ?
foggy path
I guess the man with glasses would know since he posted it
north torrent
My motherboard is dead.
foggy path
F
north torrent
Gotta wait for Gigabyte to send me a new one.
north torrent
bold fulcrum
Congratulations, raytraced Mao, your fan is now bigger than 95% other users.
mossy nexus
EGS is okay
north torrent
The fan is rather large in comparison to the case.
There is no CPU cooler because I was taking the computer apart. I had to remove the CPU cooler before I could get to the RAM and I had to remove the RAM before I could unplug the SATA cables and I had to unplug the SATA cables before I could take the motherboard out of the case.
Now all that is left inside the case is the fan and the sata ssds.
mossy nexus
Elite Dangerous has great flight mechanics, it has good combat stuff. It's a one to one scale of the milky way. Lots and lots of places to go to. If you've never played it before and enjoy space games with combat, exploration, trade, mining go for it. It does not have a plot to follow, you do whatever you want to. I am a kickstarter founder member for it, played it loads. I don't any more, it went in a direction I didn't feel was right, and after 200+ hours it didn't have anything for me any more. Play in VR if you have VR it's a wonderful experience. @zinc matrix
bleak arch
Unreal Engine subreddit now requires moderators to approve posts?
foggy path
Yeah VR is super cool in E:D
especially with HOTAS
talking of VR
I love how they licensed tech from fucking Ono-Sendai
lol
zinc matrix
this is my new fallout based stat system https://i.imgur.com/2cctarM.gif
granite pumice
@marsh oyster Awesome artist 🙂
granite pumice
@zinc matrix Check him out in introductions
cursive crypt
haha, I forgot that we patched these
grim moon
cursive crypt
Ooh, Nehe, lol... Yeah, that the 3rd time (at least) being posted here since few days.
fresh heath
Discord seems to be struggling a bit
median wraith
yeah no one of the Megascan images is actually a scene
pearl compass
You should always read the questions tab -- where a bunch of ppl complain about the very same problem and it never got an answer
median wraith
actually I posted that back in the time I think you were in the chat 🤔
fresh heath
humble remnant
Just yoink the school
fresh heath
fringe sundial
amazing
cursive crypt
lol, about time they start code games in verilog
fresh heath
I wonder why Autodesk removed Maya LT from Steam
thin storm
because of all the negative reviews I guess.
north torrent
Because Steam is cancer?
alpine fern
there was never a reason for it to be on steam to begin with
bold fulcrum
perhaps, because Maya LT has feature set, incompatible with demand of ones, who would potentially buy it through steam ?
proud pier
I mean, between not wanting to pay 30% and most likely have less restrictions (some countries can't even use Steam), who knows
What I don't get... is how Maya and 3DS Indie are the same price as LT still
Or rather, how LT is the same price as Indie
median wraith
Steam and overall places start to look awesome deal for devs
Decent games even on steam events getting 10 downloads despite are free to play
No one plays until some YouTuber plays
unborn lotus
Id love to have more software on steam, its much more convenient
proud pier
@median wraith Haha
So much drama over the word
People just need to look at the games, play the demos, wishlist (or not), stop the drama
I want every tool out of Steam personally
Sadly, for substance, if you want perpertual now (updated version one anyway), you need Steam
I hope Mixer gets better
It's not bad, but not at all close to SP yet
Only benefit (and it's a huge benefit IMHO), is the megascans
median wraith
Yesterday were listening a guy I found at youtube, was talking about that, he was in a different steam event with the demo
and hardly had 10 downloads
until some youtuber played it
proud pier
Ah yeah, I have been on the official Steam events, and they are total shit
Even PAX Online, which cost me $3K, was kinda shit (but not too bad)
proud pier
The best Steam event so far was Yogscast's one. Tiny Teams.
median wraith
Even PAX Online, which cost me $3K, was kinda shit (but not too bad)
thats bad man
proud pier
I agree.
It's been an interesting learning experience doing all these marketing things though.
Lots of money spent over the past year, we'll see what happens though.
median wraith
I don't know a single indie dev in my country that can live from it tbh
every single one is half dev half teacher in some university
kinda sad
proud pier
Aye, well, that's probably a good way to start for more indies though
IMHO, you should feel comfortable and feel secure if you're trying to make a game
Especially your first one
I just kept all my contract money, and was able to do this. Of course, I've tried to get external funding as well, only successful one was the Kickstarter
median wraith
Aye, well, that's probably a good way to start for more indies though
I mean they keep like that for 10 years releasing games and doing that
XDDD
and these are the lucky ones
proud pier
But, grants are much harder to come by 😉
Sometimes it take a long while to make a game that allows you to be self sustainable
Who knows how many games that'll be for me?
I'm hoping not too many more though 😉
median wraith
yeah I mean you can purcharse the whole home at once with a single game but then you get a constant flow
that's why they do this way
proud pier
My goal is basically, if I can't "get it right" the second time around with all my lessons learned, I f*cked up somewhere and don't know wtf I'm doing
And basically just hemorrhaging money
(well first goal is to make back all the money I've spent on the first game, ROFL)
median wraith
yeah, well good luck with that, I got a steam release suck since months ago as were doing freelance
lets see if can continue with it at finally release it at least a beta
proud pier
Well, I could care less about Steam release
Or PC release in general, unless EGS allows me on (non-exclusive, no money)
It's going to be about the console ports for this game IMHO
The PC release might help out with allowing for perhaps additional content in time for ports, and whatever, but I can't spend another year on this game (at least not just one this game)
median wraith
I don't even think about EGS right now, as the whole api still in dev for UE4
etc facts
proud pier
Aye, but its the store I care about
median wraith
yeah your case works better on console tbh
proud pier
And anyway, I've already started doing internal achievements
That video you sent, that game looks good
I like the art style
FML, I wish I had kept up on Art over the past few years lol
proud pier
Man this video is funny
I need to up my game on YT as well...
One day I'll duplicate myself
proud pier
But yeah, Party Animals basically f*cked everyone
thin storm
yeah these steam events are very low key, who wants to click through 500 steam pages. pfff
proud pier
Tiny Teams is the biggest spike. And it was free.
Sept was a weird one. Autumn fest and Pirate Sale
proud pier
If you plan on selling something, best to start a Steam Page