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dim ruin
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really though, that's totally a workable speed

rigid quartz
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normally i get 500 down and 38 upload

dim ruin
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yeah the upload is low but meh

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38 up is great

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kick your brother off the webcam, bam. faster ul

rigid quartz
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yet my wifi stick is tanking so internet speed is going down slowly

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yes i use a usb wifi adapter over a pcie

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only cause thats what came with this when my mom gave it to me

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i upgraded the ram from 8gb to 32gb

dim ruin
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I actually had got my wifi card on amazon. I only really wanted it for bluetooth but the specs were nice. Some cheapy noname shit but turned out to be really good lol

rigid quartz
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and replaced the crappy intel graphs with a radeon xfx 580 8gb

dim ruin
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nice

rigid quartz
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sorta wishing i waited now though...

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couldve gotten one of the newer gpus for bout same price

dim ruin
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my system is a total beast but then my video card is still my old gtx 960

rigid quartz
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my cpu is a i5-6400...

dim ruin
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thats still solid

rigid quartz
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considering i can get 240 fps on Space Engineers of all games... yeah

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still when im loading in creations of 60000 blocks i sort of wish i had a better cpu

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i wanna replace the mobo and cpu

dim ruin
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I basically ran out of cash for the build after everything else lol never got around to upgrading the card. Pisses me off too because when I got the ram it was about $540 for 32 GB, now its like $160. The CPU was about $600, now down to liek $400

rigid quartz
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mobo with pottentially the current ones am4 counterpart

dim ruin
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ram prices crashed

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ooh a nice ryzen build would be sweet

light spruce
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wondering how many people are actually using that much ram

rigid quartz
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32gb???

dim ruin
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I do lol

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I can make this bitch cry

rigid quartz
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yeah i am easily filling up half of my memory

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16gb wont do me good

dim ruin
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Its the CPU that really gets worked hard on mine though

rigid quartz
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should probably get a new 5000 amd cpu

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better single core performance than intel ๐Ÿ™‚

dim ruin
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I got an i7 7700K. Its a workhorse for sure. Right now my bottleneck is my gpu though. I want one of the new rtx 30 series

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holy shit. biden's taking wisconsin

rigid quartz
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gilfoyle the 5000 series cpu's when they come out will have better single core performance than intel and the 6000 series gpus will be better than nvidia's new lineup for the most part

dim ruin
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yeah I seen that.

rigid quartz
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i bet on amd a long time ago in the stock market

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finaly gonna start paying off

dim ruin
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heh

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I used to be a huge amd fan. It jst got stagnant for a while there but they've turned things around again like back in the old days

rigid quartz
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๐Ÿ™‚

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the thread rippers were a power move on amd's part

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combine that with the new cpu's single core performance...

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oooohoooohooo

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cant wait for it

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ill buy that shit once i got the money if it comes out

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64 cores 128 threads

dim ruin
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well its good for competition too because it makes intel get off their ass and try to actually innovate for a change lol

rigid quartz
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intels lack of innovation bit them in the ass

north torrent
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AMD is dominating in the CPU market but I don't think people are ready to trust them on GPUs.

rigid quartz
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i am

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have been for a long time

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been rocking amd gpus for the past decade

north torrent
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Maybe Nvidia's lack of stock might get some people to pick up an AMD instead.

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I'm sorry.

rigid quartz
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MaoTX hope you realise that the 6000 series gpus may not be exactly equivelent to nvidias new lineup but there pretty damn close the next lineup will put the pin in the coffin for nvidia

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that or the next one after

north torrent
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We will see if they actual perform in practice as well as they do on paper.

AMD gpus generally look like a great value and then struggle with driver issues.

rigid quartz
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mine hasnt had driver issues

pearl marsh
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is anyone else unable to search or click on any products in the epic marketplace?

median wraith
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via website or launcher

pearl marsh
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launcher

rigid quartz
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mine hasnt had driver issues
havnt had driver issues since i got this gpu

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exept once

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just needed a quick restart and update to fix though

cursive crypt
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Wonder what so much about who is better, these two companies are chasing their tails since long ago.

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Next time nvidia will just release Ti/Super version and done.

median wraith
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works for me @pearl marsh

pearl marsh
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well thats annoying, thanks

north torrent
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Restart your computer.

rigid quartz
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ryobg yeah nvidia will loose more than likely

pearl marsh
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i reinstalled it

rigid quartz
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they will be done allright

cursive crypt
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lol, didnt said that.

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But in a sense, yeah. Will loose for few months.

rigid quartz
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then by then amd will have there grip

light spruce
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hm. like my nvidia driver that still has YouTube fucked up because they knew that for two releases and pushed them anyway

rigid quartz
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and keep winning for a while

fluid bloom
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I can't remember the last time I had any kind of driver issues

rigid quartz
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until nvidia pulls a trump card out there ass and win once maybe twice then its amd again

fluid bloom
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maybe when radeon 9600 pro was a thing

rigid quartz
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amd has grabbed there grip for not only cpu's now but gpu's

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just the final touches being refined

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for the gpu's

cursive crypt
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I don't know about drivers but their Experience app is lame, can't display properly on 4k hi dpi monitors at all.

rigid quartz
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im bout to get back to work

dim ruin
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nvidias in a really strong position though. They just purchased their chip manufacturer

rigid quartz
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true

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that might set amd back ill admit

cursive crypt
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Of course, they do. That's why they are still game.

rigid quartz
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but its just a matter of time

cursive crypt
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For what?

rigid quartz
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before amd finds a company with equivelent or better and then from there they buy that company

light spruce
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Until the future happens.

dim ruin
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damnit. I think PA stopped counting ballots for the night ๐Ÿ˜ฆ Want this damn thing to be over

cursive crypt
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lol, amd already has the cpu know-how

rigid quartz
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i know

cursive crypt
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Maybe buy off engineers.

rigid quartz
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im talking bout gpu's

north torrent
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If AMD beats Nvidia I will be happy to buy AMD. But I am not going to trust them just because they showed some slides at a press conference. I will wait till their gpus are released for at least a month and see if people are having the typical issues.

cursive crypt
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That's good idea in general.

light spruce
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It wouldn't be over tonight anyway. It's not going to be over for a while.

north torrent
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Seems like with Nvidia you have to wait a few months as well, just to make sure they don't release something better.

dim ruin
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if PA, NV come out big it could be

north torrent
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Pennsylvania hasn't even started counting the mail in ballots.

dim ruin
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I know ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

north torrent
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And they won't resume counting until 9:00am eastern time.

dim ruin
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I'd expect that'll be nearly all Biden though

north torrent
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Well, if what we are seeing in Arizona is any indicator, then things are really tipping blue.

dim ruin
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hope so. its too close for comfort though

north torrent
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I am pretty sure the pre-maturely called several states like Iowa and Florida.

light spruce
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It's all going to drag on into a complete and total shitshow because The President already claims he won and is demanding the Supreme Court stop more ballots from being counted

north torrent
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I would bet my RTX 3090 that one or both gets turned by the end of this.

cursive crypt
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Do you have 3090 at all?

north torrent
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Not yet, can't get them in China right now.

dim ruin
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I'll take that bet. I needs me a 30 series lol

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all I have to offer in trade is a 960 though :p

north torrent
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Plus, I am waiting to see how AMD does.

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Just because I am not trusting of AMD doesn't mean I am not going to give them a chance.

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And Nvidia might just go release an RTX 3090ti and screw me over.

dim ruin
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lol

cursive crypt
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The Ti/Super will take few months at least.

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An year maybe.

north torrent
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But at this point I am thinking that RTX 3090 is going to be my next GPU. I have the money sitting here waiting.

light spruce
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but all their fans will be totally fine being burned and take a loss to sell off their brand new card for it

north torrent
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Can't make a 3090 super unless you have a 3100 though...

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As far as I know super only exists because it is a cut down from the higher number. So to get a 3070 super Nvidia takes a sub-par 3080 chip and makes a 3070 super.

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I'm ordering pizza.

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Or a cheeseburger.

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Or Chinese...

light spruce
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way to narrow it down

north torrent
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A Chinese cheeseburger?

light spruce
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cheeseburger pizza

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it's a thing

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I have a feeling it's going to take a lot of willpower not to go acquire many liters of ethanol in six hours.

frosty halo
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Couldnโ€™t find where else to ask this - are there any tools similar to Reallusionโ€™s character creator, but something that doesnโ€™t require 3 separate purchases to integrate? I know thereโ€™s a blender plug-in which is free but not as good quality. Anything else knocking about the web that you guys know of?

carmine frigate
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makehuman, mixamo, daz

median wraith
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Daz needs license

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to be used in games

cursive crypt
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Not if you use only 2d renders of it :)

median wraith
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well, but who does that in a game ? xd

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Other for visual novels

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Daz products in the store seems kinda mediocre by 2020

frosty halo
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I can't tell what Daz does? Is it a char creator? A modelling software? Everything? Seems a bit.. schizophrenic

median wraith
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A tool to make animations and edit just morph targets

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Basically you purchase or create models and there you render and pose them etc

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but the models need the license, as they give the base model so you can morph it

frosty halo
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Right, I see. Their marketing material makes it seem like an "everything" thing

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Shame Mixamo has a poor collection of chars

median wraith
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is a composition tool basically

frosty halo
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Almost makes me wanna just learn Z-brush and model on a base sexless model to get a nice custom char

median wraith
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just the whole base of Daz is their character that you can make "any" female or male as have like 200 morph targets all over the body to edit

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is like a character creator

frosty halo
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I'll play around. It's such a shame all the good software that's free has terrible licensing and all software that is paid costs way more than what I am prepared to spend for what is currently a learning experience and not a business or a means to make money

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Thanks for your answers

pale jackal
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Hey all :)
What channel here would be the best to talk about Houdini Engine <-> UE4 related questions?

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More technical stuff, not modeling or so ๐Ÿ™‚

median wraith
pale jackal
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Okay, thx! :)
Just an idea, but wouldnt it be nice, to have something like a "ThirdParty DCC" Channel or so? ๐Ÿ˜„

cursive crypt
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Maybe if you go to the Houdini server and ask for UE?

pale jackal
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I am there already - they have a game-jam, too.
Just was thinking that maybe some UE4 experts have knowledge in Houdini Engine and could give some deeper knowledge about uproperty etc.
There is almost no info about that.

cursive crypt
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Well, depends on the topic. UProperty and stuff now starts to sound as c++, just look around the channels.

pale jackal
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hmm, okay.
Will search for it. ๐Ÿ™‚

cursive crypt
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@frosty halo if you want to fly off so easily, look at the ue mp for char customizations. Think there were some free even. Maybe. Once upon a time. You can also take whatever is free and try to mod it to certain extent too. No need to dig too much into it.

frosty halo
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Yeah i reckon im gonna end up sculpting eventually. Atm I was just looking for something that can generate a decent base I can sculpt detail on which is why the ask for software

median wraith
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Does niagara works for 2d ?

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like UMG

cursive crypt
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It's fine.

marsh garden
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Looks edible

humble remnant
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The UIWS that was free in September has been pretty solid out of the box

fresh heath
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How's Unreal Editor for Linux?

ancient hornet
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last time I checked, Epic was working with GCC to fix their slow performance starting the editor on Linux that is due to bad algorithms in the linker :P
that's a pretty strong commitment I feel when you are at that point

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you still need to build it yourself though, Epic won't provide binaries for Linux

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though you don't actually need to do that to package a Linux version: the windows binary editor can do it

cursive crypt
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yeah, gcc is dinosaur

stiff crystal
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that's such a weird article

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they try to make it sound like you couldn't do anything with the preview versions

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basically they've had Linux Editors on Unity Hub for one year now

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(and in experimental form for 5 years)

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I dunno if Unity has had some weird stance for linux editor particularly but all their other preview techs I've used HAVE had support, you can report issues with them and Unity does respond and fix these issues

robust gulch
silk monolith
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Could use a good pick-me-up, howzabout a 4.26 release today?

humble remnant
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Just download the latest preview, ez

carmine frigate
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i had my 1st crash on the new preview ๐Ÿ˜›

humble remnant
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I've had a number of crashes, though those were caused by me turning on raytracing on a 1070Ti

carmine frigate
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does not compute? :p

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its got some cool stuff so i hope they fix it fast

humble remnant
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The thing that got me excited the most was Chaos being pushed further and actually having collision with anything but a floor and other Chaos objects

median wraith
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Just did the worst function ever, convert tmap to double tarrays in order to get a index

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XD

foggy path
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lol

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It's probably not the worst thing you could do

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it's such a common operation that it has a name, zip and unzip

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although I think that terminology is probably mainly used in functional programming

median wraith
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    template< class T, class TT >
    static FORCEINLINE TT CloserTMap( const T _Reference, const TMap<T,TT>& _Values, const bool _NotEqual, int32* _CloserIndex = NULL, T* _CloserKey = NULL ) {
        if ( _Values.Num() == 0 ) {
            if ( _CloserIndex ) {
                *_CloserIndex = INDEX_NONE;
            }
            if ( _CloserKey ) {
                *_CloserKey = INDEX_NONE;
            }
            return TT();
        }

        TArray<T> keysArray;
        TArray<TT> valuesArray;
        //_Values
        _Values.GenerateKeyArray( keysArray );
        _Values.GenerateValueArray( valuesArray );

        T curCloser = ( ( _Reference - keysArray[0] ) >= (T)0 ) ? ( _Reference - keysArray[0] ) : -( _Reference - keysArray[0] );
        int32 curCloserIndex = 0;
        if ( curCloser == 0 && _NotEqual ) {
            curCloserIndex = -1;
        }

        for ( int32 v = 1; v < _Values.Num(); ++v ) {
            const T value = ( ( _Reference - keysArray[v] ) >= (T)0 ) ? ( _Reference - keysArray[v] ) : -( _Reference - keysArray[v] );
            if ( value < curCloser ) {
                if ( !_NotEqual || ( _NotEqual && value != 0.f ) ) { // From 0 to 0.f probably fix
                    curCloser = value;
                    curCloserIndex = v;
                }
            }
        }

        if ( _CloserIndex ) {
            *_CloserIndex = curCloserIndex == -1 ? INDEX_NONE : curCloserIndex;
        }
        if ( _CloserKey ) {
            *_CloserKey = _Values.Num() == 0 ? INDEX_NONE : keysArray[curCloserIndex == -1 ? 0 : curCloserIndex];
        }
        return _Values.Num() == 0 ? INDEX_NONE : valuesArray[curCloserIndex == -1 ? 0 : curCloserIndex];
    }
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is the only way that comes to my mind right now

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๐Ÿค– feel free to improve it lol

zinc matrix
median wraith
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is a game ported to PC ?

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oh nevermind

fresh heath
zinc matrix
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wowowow

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wowowowow

proud pier
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@rose nimbus Yo, you ever figure out the disappearing mesh issue in Standalone/Launch Game?

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Pretty sure this didn't happen until 4.24, but now I'm on 4.25 and that didn't resolve anything, it's not a super blocker (packages work just fine), but a little inconvenient.

humble remnant
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So I pulled the trigger on a second-hand Kinect that I'll mod and use for virtual production

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Total bill is about 50$ total for the Kinect itself and a long USB 3.0 cable

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Sadly the only native Kinect plugin on the marketplace right now (and is updated for recent versions) is 45$

foggy path
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interesting, what can you use it for with that?

humble remnant
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As it says, virtual production

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maybe vtubing

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Though not that far yet

foggy path
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I have no idea what you would use it for with virtual production tbh :D

humble remnant
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I need to play with the tech for

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My face is...

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Unpleasant so to say

foggy path
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someone I follow on twitch is doing the whole vtuber thing, he's got a leap motion for hand tracking which seems to work pretty good

humble remnant
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Still got skin problems, so being able to express myself in a digital way would be nice

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Sadly the only plugin I could get up and running was last made for UE 4.9

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Which is sub-optimal to say the least, had to edit build target and some includes to get it to even generate VS files

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The Opaque Media plugin doesn't include source files, so I can only use it with 4.20, which ain't cash money in my book

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And the marketplace plugin just doesn't sound good when I'll be tracking just myself and it basically costs as much as my entire budget

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Though I also need to mod it so I don't use an adapter

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Interesting thing that is and thank god for modding being an option

robust gulch
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What's the deal with the "Restore File" Popup when Unreal crashes? Every time I click restore it never works.

humble remnant
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It loads the latest autosave it could find

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If you get an error that says "couldn't check <asset> from source control", ignore that, it's simply because you have no native source control enabled

robust gulch
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K

humble remnant
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Anyway am waiting on the Kinect to arrive and I'll report back if it's any good

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The sole fact that it's a good quality 1080p camera that works in dim light is a bonus in itself

zinc matrix
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don't let the election distract you

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from the fact that i have commited 19 war crimes in albania

humble remnant
zinc matrix
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๐Ÿ”

humble remnant
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The other eggman

zinc matrix
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no lol

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tunisia

dim ruin
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ah wrong channel

rapid wolf
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hey guys and gals. I am having a super hard time trying to follow devsquad's UE4 tutorials cuz 1, its an older version, two, he goes way to fkn fast, and three, he messes up himself alot so i really am not learning crap from him. could someone suggest a video tutorial series that takes its time and describes things in depth for UE4? links would be much appreciated. youtube preferably

light spruce
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a better question: where the hell did all my sim tray tools go?

unborn lotus
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@rapid wolf did you really spam every channel?

rapid wolf
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@unborn lotus did you really ignore my question in every channel

unborn lotus
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Im going to ignore it here too, spamming is shitty

light spruce
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@rapid wolf Rule 0: Figure out how a community works before you do anything. If there are explicitly defined rules, you should probably read those and do your best to adhere to them. I would assume that most people wouldn't think that posting the same thing in a bunch of channels is a good idea, but since that's not the case, that's why there's rule 7 that explicitly states not to do that.

foggy path
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Being snarky is usually also not conductive to getting help alex

light spruce
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When you don't know someone, you treat them the way you want to be treated because the appropriate way to handle people is to treat them how they treat you. If someone treats you like shit, doesn't respect you, doesn't respect your time.. there's no reason to waste resources on them.

rapid wolf
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actually asking anything on discord is a really good way to see the scummy attitudes of people having a fucking power trip on some dumbshit rules. get over yourselves you 4 year olds

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if you would have been a decent human being you would have answered my question without stating the obvious just to be "that guy" and did my spam hurt anyone? NO so i gave you a snarky response because you are fishing @light spruce

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@foggy path

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@unborn lotus

foggy path
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Why do you assume I can answer your question?

rapid wolf
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who said that

foggy path
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I saw it but I don't know the answer :P

rapid wolf
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so move on

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dont need to go out of your way to give me a hard time

foggy path
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You're the one giving us a hard time, we're just trying to give you advice on how to get your questions answered

unborn lotus
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@rapid wolf thats really stupid. I think you're the 4 year old here ๐Ÿ˜†

rapid wolf
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ok then that makes you the cyber bully

zinc matrix
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lmao stop acting like we owe you an answer

light spruce
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You just doubled down on a pair of 2s.

rapid wolf
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""""if you would have been a decent human being you would have answered my question without stating the obvious just to be "that guy" and did my spam hurt anyone? NO""""

foggy path
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come on guys you are being a bit mean too :P

rapid wolf
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if you dont have an answer then fuck off mentioning me jesus christ

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that is spam by itself

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you mention me, without an answer to tell me crap i am well aware of doing

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which is asking several different chats

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not a big deal

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so yea maybe i was a bit snarky, im sorry

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not

foggy path
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for a moment I thought you were being the bigger man there

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but I guess I was mistaken :P

unreal cedar
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<@&213101288538374145> hi, might want to come in here before this gets more out of hand ๐Ÿ™ƒ

rapid wolf
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i didnt mention you when i asked the question

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i dont need to be the bigger man

tall plume
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hi

foggy path
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I tried being nice but hey ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

light spruce
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Not a big deal aside from it both being annoying and against the rules for precisely that reason. I tried to give you a heads up on it.. but...

rapid wolf
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all of you started to attack me for pasting my question in different chats

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that is not spam

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its a question

tall plume
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@rapid wolf please simmer down. nobody is expected or required to assist you

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remember, this is a community, and people help when they can and know

rapid wolf
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when did i say it was

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i didnt ask for them to mention me

foggy path
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I'm genuinely curious... do you really think that you'll get answers to your question by being difficult

rapid wolf
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not did i mention them in the question

foggy path
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I don't want to start an argument but seriously...

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:P

tall plume
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well, you posted your message in multiple channels, which we do consider spam

rapid wolf
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it was obvious before i pasted my question in several different chats that none of you kknew the answer @foggy path

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so i get the same thing

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if you consider my question spam, that is pathetic

foggy path
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Well, if you had been a little bit more cooperative it would have been a lot more likely that somebody might have helped you by looking it up for you

rapid wolf
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i pasted it once in each chat, you have to paste it thrice in a channel before its spam

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according to the definition of spam

unborn lotus
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@rapid wolf your question is spam if you post it in #source-control like really

rapid wolf
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honestly its not about the question anymore. its about people going out of their way to be another discord 12 year old

thorny dock
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hey speaking of pasting I've got some really great "I Voted!" pasties if anyone is interested

foggy path
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What sort of pasties?

thorny dock
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the kind you put on your chest

foggy path
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Ohh right lol

rapid wolf
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@unborn lotus my question is about learning unreal engine. source control is one of many categories im trying to learn smart ass

light spruce
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I'm honestly at a loss. Obtuse or just trolling? I can't tell.

spare glade
rapid wolf
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i did @spare glade

spare glade
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Everyone else, leave it alone.

rapid wolf
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thank you

spare glade
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Well read them again thanks.

rapid wolf
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@spare glade you gonna tell them to read them again too?

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i believe they decided to act like a bully

spare glade
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Stop, let it go.

rapid wolf
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yes sir

unborn lotus
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I can't remember who suggested Pathfinder Kingmaker here, but I picked it up again. Last time I stopped playing thinking the story was done after 8 hours (like recent games), but now I'm at 60 hours and it's not even close lol

cursive crypt
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Damn Discord's input text field bugged, lol
Anyway, was that top down rpg? If so, yeah, heard its quite long. These games tend to be long.

unborn lotus
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Yeah, its crazy long. I thought i was done but it was just the first chapter...it got epic soon

cursive crypt
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It was this game where you are pressured to do some stuff in time, yes? Eeh, kinda makes me anxious. Anyway, I was thinking to try it out, but instead went for the Pillars - they are not shorter, lmao

light spruce
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Like one of the classic style CRPGs like Pillars of Eternity or (going back further) Baldur's Gate?

cursive crypt
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But heard Kingmakers is kinda better.

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Justin, yea

light spruce
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I could not get through Pillars of Eternity

unborn lotus
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@cursive crypt the kingdom management part, but I set it to easy and its no big deal, a little annoying at first, then it gets fun, like a city builder game

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@light spruce me neither, just lost interest

light spruce
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The combat pace with the level of micromanagement in it is what got to me.

cursive crypt
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These want time anyway. Story is rich.

light spruce
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I preferred the style of Dragon Age Origins where you could "program" the AI, mostly play one character yourself, and occasionally pick up and micro another one when needed.

cursive crypt
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They are kinda different, the DA is 3rd person, like you are more "into" the stuff. The others follow that table top formula i.e. you have a party and direct it around. Ofc, you are solo player tho.

light spruce
#

Yeah. That's just what I preferred in the realm of pausing realtime combat. Having to constantly pause and switch characters and deal with misaligned cooldowns just drove me nuts. If it was straight up turn-based managing everyone in the party would have been fine; I've played plenty of the newer XCOM games.

unborn lotus
#

@light spruce pathfinder has a full turn based option

light spruce
#

That'd definitely be more my speed then if I hadn't kinda drifted away from interest in the fantasy type stuff

light spruce
#

ISO enter keys upset me so much

abstract haven
#

need bg3 map.editor.

cursive crypt
#

need money

north torrent
#

Hmmmm... the RTX 3080ti leak looks to be about as good as the RTX 3090... Maybe I'll get that instead.

cursive crypt
#

Release date?

north torrent
#

It is just a leak.

#

Benchmark leak and specs.

cursive crypt
#

afaik, it stands between 3080 and 3090, less vram.

light spruce
#

8k gaming

north torrent
#

I just don't want to settle for only 10gb of VRAM.

#

So I haven't even considered the RTX 3080.

solid aurora
#

if 3080ti reelease

#

the availability will be exavtly as for 3090

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non existent

median wraith
#

and for what exactly you need that much vram ?

north torrent
#

Making games.

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That people will play on their RTX 4070 3 years from now.

median wraith
#

welp

#

I drop that idea time ago tbh

north torrent
#

I just want to make super demanding graphics for the fun of it.

cursive crypt
#

Ah, that easy. Just use hi poly models.

median wraith
#

infinite detail

cursive crypt
#

ue5

median wraith
#

then you notice in the same gen the fire and smoke keep on planes ๐Ÿคก

north torrent
#

I will use exactly as many polygons as I need and no more.

#

Not going to just subdivide stuff for no reason...

cursive crypt
#

Its just one button man, press it.

#

Anyway, I think top gpus are fine like for 5+ years at least.

north torrent
#

I'm more interested in doing an insane amount of destructible items in an environment with particles everywhere.

humble remnant
#

Chaos might be of help there

#

It's been performing pretty well for destructibles for what I've done

reef flower
#

Decided to learn C++ lately. ue4 decided to try and stop me by crashing ๐Ÿ˜…

median wraith
#

Yeah not sure if is a good idea to learn c++ directly with ue4

reef flower
#

Yeah not sure if is a good idea to learn c++ directly with ue4
@median wraith How so?

fresh heath
#

It's more fun to learn with Unreal than to play with cin/cout

fluid bloom
#

@reef flower crashing happens when you try to access something invalid

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99.99% of time

tulip orbit
#

int i = 0; i.IsValid();

median wraith
#

@reef flower its like learn to drive a truck but you don't the car driving license

#

Can be done but

tulip orbit
#

...but?

mossy nexus
#

You need a car license before you can get a truck license

#

Yeah, but in this case the c = COBOL ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜„

#

I last used COBOL 26 years ago. I can't remember a damned thing about it now, thankfully ๐Ÿ˜„

tulip orbit
#

I've only heard of COBOL in history books and talking to crusty old programmers

mossy nexus
#

Did those crusties tell you how much COBOL programmers can earn these days?

tulip orbit
#

no, they never say anything useful

mossy nexus
#

Several large companies still use it, so they have to hire consultants to fix/add things. The day rate is insane.

tulip orbit
#

they should upgrade :p

mossy nexus
#

It's still cheaper to hire these guys that to get a new system in their business. When that changes, they will. Or more likely COBOL programmers will be so rare they will have no choice.

soft night
#

Cobolts

fresh heath
#

I presume COBOL is much simpler than the modern C++

mossy nexus
#

It's a very ridged language, not very flexible. So it's a pain to get right.

median wraith
#

I don't usually do streams but when I do

soft night
#

when hevedy streams it will be cool right?

distant vale
#

why did this game just explode

#

it has been out since 2018

#

and then sometime in october it just skyrocketed

#

over 100,000 views

#

does anyone know why?

soft night
#

well covid do strange things

cursive crypt
#

Never liked this game tbh.
Played it only once in real life, realized I don't like to lie.

mossy nexus
#

Did you play it in non real life?

cursive crypt
#

nope ๐Ÿ˜„

soft night
#

well was there casualties?

cursive crypt
#

Technically, I won. Killed everyone.

#

But as I said, don't like to lie.

mossy nexus
#

Unless that is a lie...

soft night
#

what if that was all lie

mossy nexus
#

Wait.. are you really that guy with glasses in disguise? ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜„

#

hides

median wraith
#

yep he posted the other day on the web

mossy nexus
#

Did you know you can stick vegans to a wall using velcro?

silk lily
#

did u guys see today amd benchmark

#

amd as of today,better than intel

#

in everything

#

rip intel

cursive crypt
#

I think with the rippers they got a lead already.

mossy nexus
#

Since the Ryzen 3k series it hasn't made any sense to use Intel. Any person who says they can see extra [insert FPS here] is talking through their arse, imo. People buy into the marketing and make themselves believe it/justify it.

silk lily
#

well back in 3k,intel still have gaming in their hand now they have nothing

#

so rip

mossy nexus
#

A few months back Linus blind tested a ton of keyboards with different switches. Previous to the test all the testers said Cherry MX was the best blah blah. The end result was very different.

soft night
#

i still get intel CPU

silk lily
#

well the keybaord i can understand since it always come down to your experience with it

#

and how it feels to you but with benchmark,its hard to fake it you know

#

๐Ÿค”

fresh heath
#

Outemu's keyboard switches seem to be as good as Cherry's

#

But cheaper

mossy nexus
#

My point earlier with the extra fps gamers claim to make such a difference, would be virtually impossible to notice.

fresh heath
#

Gamers just want the Very Bestโ„ข

mossy nexus
#

My previous keyboard had Outemu, but one of the keys started to fail after 2 months. Not saying it was Outemu's fault, it may have been the board manufacturer. I now have a HyperX with Kailh silver. So far so good. ๐Ÿ™‚

fresh heath
soft night
#

I have my Razer Blackwidow stealth

cursive crypt
#

df is that? Switch?

mossy nexus
#

mechanical keyboards use switches.

fresh heath
mossy nexus
#

Interesting :

The Power IK license and all related technology was acquired by Epic Games in October 2020.
Unreal Engine licensees can expect Power IK's full suite of procedural animation features to be better integrated and fully supported in a future Unreal Engine release.
https://www.poweranimated.com/

fresh heath
#

Nice

#

It's not free in the marketplace yet ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

plucky pagoda
median wraith
#

The Niagara stream seems kinda interesting

#

Tomorrow

#

I think

dusty yarrow
#

guys my enitre terrain has been rotating a bit to the down from its left side

#

here is a picture

#

what is it?

#

so how to make it look normal?

mossy nexus
#

Looks like a camera issue. Reboot the engine.

dusty yarrow
#

i clicked on the arrow

#

i clicked on the arrow in the toolbar
near the set scaling option

#

what does that do? why it solved my issue?
enable or disable snapping
objects
to scale grid

#

when i clicked it, it solved my issue

#

but when i change the values or click that arrow again

#

nothing happen

#

why it is so complex

unborn lotus
#

well well 5950x is in stock here and I can actually buy it

dusty yarrow
#

goodluck huffle

#

buy it and send it to me, for test purposes

#

๐Ÿ˜…

unborn lotus
#

haha well I just got the 9900k 2 years ago and I feel bad doing it

cursive crypt
#

Heard it barely started to beat 10900, so much effort - not talking about multicore work ofc, just games.

#

Anyway, cores are always welcome - more the better.

dusty yarrow
#

@unborn lotus true

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intel is dumb and bad i hate it so much

#

on top of that they have most of their cpus locked and non overclockable

#

yet amd have most of its cpus unlocked and u can get more perfomance

cursive crypt
dusty yarrow
#

and their perfomance per watt is the world best

cursive crypt
#

amd are really good at cores as of now

dusty yarrow
#

not cores only even single core perfomance

#

check their benchs

#

it defeat all intel cpus

cursive crypt
#

I just showed you a bench. Have few more.

#

True, they beat them however, but this is just as of now.

dusty yarrow
#

dont forget even if it is 1% better that still much better, coz games depend on gpu mostly

#

as of now? amd will always win

unborn lotus
#

only 140W max, so I don't even need a new power supply

dusty yarrow
#

next years intel release their new cpus? nice amd will do the same too

#

and crush it again

#

like it did this year. so i see no chance for intel to win anymore, its the end.

#

just look at the 4900H from amd for the laptops

#

its a real beast

#

and it increase battery life by at least 1-2 hours!!!

#

not to mention they have very good performance and good price.

cursive crypt
#

๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ I won't dig in their whole production range to compare. Talking for few selected cpus here.

dusty yarrow
#

yeah

unborn lotus
#

intel was pathetic 1 day before the big ryzen event

cursive crypt
#

Well, as I see it. 6+ months later amd catched up with single cores.

#

I would consider they gonna chase their tails as forever, so that fine

#

End user, wins. As for work, amd with all these cores - is welcome.

dusty yarrow
#

work and gaming i see no chance for intel anymore

#

if i get money i would get one of those laptops

#

with 4900H

#

or even the new coming 5000series for laptops

cursive crypt
#

Yeah, I'm not so dedicated to have so "final" opinion. These techs wars are for decades and decades, you are kinda assuming here.

#

My point is, these guys are not stupid, lol.

#

Anyway, I also like 5950x ๐Ÿ˜„

dusty yarrow
#

@cursive crypt by they u mean intel?

#

i agree, but it is about defeating amd, and that is not possible wither they are stupid or not.

cursive crypt
#

Not possible, lol. I just told you they are in tech wars since I remember 20+ years, it won't just go away like this. Lets wait and enjoy the show. Who cares anyway? As long the push prices down and give good products - I'm fine.

#

oh, f. It does not play...

soft night
#

I get intel CPUs

dusty yarrow
#

intel is dead

soft night
#

amd is dead

fresh heath
#

work and gaming i see no chance for intel anymore
@dusty yarrow I remember this being said about AMD back in the Bulldozer/Piledriver era

dusty yarrow
#

who care, amd is the future of cpu

#

and gpu

soft night
#

you are realy a fanboy

fresh heath
#

Everything is the future until it is not

soft night
#

intel Xe is actually look great

fresh heath
#

Long-term, both Intel and AMD CPU businesses could be killed by Arm

soft night
#

as nvidia owns the arm now

foggy path
#

It's just the AMD phase of the cycle now :P

fresh heath
#

It's like when Intel and AMD killed the big iron market that included Power(PC), MIPS, SPARC, Alpha, and PA-RISC by sheer volume advantage

#

Same thing is likely to happen to x86-64 as well

#

Arm had a volume advantage for a while

cursive crypt
#

I wonder what Alder Lake will bring to the table.

soft night
#

the server side there is scalable CPUs from intel

broken sigil
#

some wild rtx 3080s appeared where I live and Jesus are they overpriced here.... $1300...

dusty yarrow
#

scam

#

intel and NVidia

broken sigil
#

ok bud

dusty yarrow
#

ok

solid aurora
#

ok

#

there is new roadmap

#

how the hell to view it ?

#

impossible

#

well

#

okta is identity provider

#

i guess epic uses it

#

should be able to login with epic account

#

but doesn't work

#

ok it seems like someone forgot to simply make it public

#

okta account is no go, for everybody it would cost millions for epic ๐Ÿ˜„

solid aurora
#

@hollow zephyr don't want to bother, but new roadmap is not accessible (;

cursive crypt
#

panic mode

solid aurora
#

we annouced new roadmap

#

panic mode

#

it is actually for UE5

#

can't make it public

#

but we announced it is public xD

light spruce
#

MIDI PANIC

#

tankdatframerate

carmine frigate
#

that niagara stream is a hard watch :p

fathom wadi
#

especially with an old man's bladder

fresh heath
atomic barn
fresh heath
#

Maybe that's where the seized stash went kappa

hollow zephyr
#

@solid aurora Not bothered, I'm bothered by the fact you can't access it! I've let the team know, we're looking into it

foggy path
#

Oh feds seized that much BTC recently too?

#

That's interesting seeing how BTC value is going up fast atm

solid aurora
#

@hollow zephyr thanks (;

fresh heath
carmine frigate
#

yea stuff goin fast now , allmost wished those new consoles waited a year ๐Ÿ˜›

#

yea but thats all done in the shader

#

yea i havent done much vert displacement, i could prolly get a half broken sidescroller working in the shader tho

zinc matrix
#

Hey own

#

I got a question man

carmine frigate
#

whats up

zinc matrix
#

So basically this young brat dms me and asks to me to make a app game for FREE, and I have never met him before so now I am getting pretty irritated and he sits there and is telling me to do all this stuff and I never said yes, I'm so angry and he is sitting there being stupid, he tells me to make him the owner and give him the owner tag and I get the helper tag

#

Its stupid even tho I would be the one doing all the work

#

@carmine frigate

carmine frigate
#

ahh you should prolly just do it

zinc matrix
#

Why?

carmine frigate
#

i dunno

#

also that wasnt a question :p

zinc matrix
#

Why do u think I should do it??

fresh heath
zinc matrix
#

Wow

#

That lighting is awesome

#

3 months ago i could do 5,5,5,5 push ups, now its 6,6,6,6.
๐Ÿ™‚ not trolling.

#

pls what

#

@zinc matrix

#

how do you know i am lazy? it can be other things.

#

that is very rude

#

its not just rude. it's highly stupid reply

#

even if you are lazy you progress faster.

#

so yes..... you told me everything about your personality.

#

thanks

#

you cant go from 0 to 100 in 6 weeks

bronze axle
#

Maybe some people can, but that's very difficult and requires a lot of dedication, prep, and life style changes.

#

Some people make progress slower than others. Progress is still progress. If you're doing 4 sets of 5 pushups a few times a week, you're already doing better than most people.

zinc matrix
#

if you can go from 0 to 100 push ups in one set, this means your beginning wasnt strength training. you could do already more than 1 push ups on day 1. you just didnt know it or the body wasnt used to it. but you already had the strength to do multiple push ups on day1.

#

@bronze axle training is not about telling yourself that you do more than others

bronze axle
#

Agreed.

#

The only person you should be comparing yourself to is your previous self.

zinc matrix
#

but not if you progress as slow as i do

#

then its just "oh ffs... again another session"

bronze axle
#

There's a certain threshold you have to pass where that changes, and working out no longer feels like a chore, but something you miss if you don't do it.

#

The threshold is different for everyone.

zinc matrix
#

yes. if you see progress and feel good, then this happens. otherwise, like my case. nope.

bronze axle
#

For me it took 6 months of slowly doing it more often, a few times a week.

zinc matrix
#

i am training 1 year.

bronze axle
#

That's quite a while.

#

But once I hit that threshold, my mind totally changed. It now feels weird to me when I don't work out.

#

Whereas I used to feel like it was a chore that I had to force myself to do.

zinc matrix
#

i am happy ifi dont train and dont have to ssee how im not getting stronger and biger

bronze axle
#

You need to change that if you want to make a noticeable difference. ๐Ÿ™‚

#

You won't notice day-to-day how much you're improving. Your body will look the same. But you'll certainly notice how much better you feel.

#

It's good to either take regular photos of your progress or have other people in your life who will notice.

#

Most people give up too early on exercise because they don't notice the progress they're making.

#

I was one of them for a very long time.

zinc matrix
#

but you see strength usually every week or even more often

#

i dont

fresh heath
#

Teardown was actually made by the development lead of PhysX, Dennis Gustafsson

bronze axle
#

i dont
@zinc matrix Why do you think you're not seeing progress?

zinc matrix
#

strength is there in numbers

crystal badger
#

So, I been working a few months with a wireless mouse. The batteries just started going out so I plugged a wired mouse in. The responsiveness for connecting nodes was much better. Then, I tripped over the cord. Well that is not going to happen again so I look for batteries and can not find any. I remembered I had a wirless mouse that i never opened. Apparently, it is a rechargeable logi mouse. Hope i can keep the responsiveness of the wired mouse that was great. I don't know why i keep working like that for so long. I didn't notice it till I used the wired mouse.

foggy path
#

Oh the Teardown guy was the dev lead of PhysX?

fresh heath
#

Yeah

zinc matrix
#

@bronze axle

foggy path
#

Interesting, I was wondering what kind of genius it required

#

:D

fresh heath
#

I founded Meqon in Norrkรถping, Sweden together with Marcus Lysรฉn and Jonas Lindqvist. I was CTO and development lead of our physics simulation middleware for the games industry. We gained some traction after 3D Realms started using our technology for Duke Nukem Forever and eventually got acquired by AGEIA Technologies in 2005. Parts of our software got integrated into the PhysX SDK. I continued working at AGEIA as a software architect for two years after the acquisition, until they got acquired by NVIDIA.

#

Duke Nukem Forever, heh

foggy path
#

haha

#

that's gotta be the only success story spawned by Duke Forever...

fresh heath
#

I remember reading news in a gaming magazine about DNF using this newfangled physics engine

broken sigil
#

Teardown was actually made by the development lead of PhysX, Dennis Gustafsson
Teardown is a masterpiece

fresh heath
crystal badger
#

lol what you talking about that is so bad

novel latch
#

oh my god

#

it's finally here

#

wishlist on marketplace ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

humble remnant
#

Waiting on cable and low-budget virtual production should be a go

carmine frigate
#

is that a book? i heared ppl read books, that must be one of those

humble remnant
carmine frigate
#

what is it gunna do?

humble remnant
#

I got myself a Kinect and modded it so I don't need the official adapter that's out of production now

carmine frigate
#

i call that a fire hazard ๐Ÿ˜›

humble remnant
#

Might be

#

Other people seem to have done that successfully so I'm doing it to adapt it for UE4

#

Though I'm waiting on a cable to arrive, it won't turn on without it plugged

crystal badger
#

@humble remnant I soldered the power code to ours too. Then added the usb cable.

humble remnant
#

Yeah, I'm waiting just on the cable now

north torrent
#

Ryzen 5900x or Ryzen 5950x?

humble remnant
#

Thing doesn't turn on without a 5v rail and I only have 12v right now

#

Well, depends on whether you need more cores

crystal badger
#

everyone needs more cores

humble remnant
#

True

crystal badger
#

so brain storm with me and its going to be a big one

north torrent
#

I have a limited CPU cooler, so I am wondering if there will be a thermal difference between the two...

humble remnant
#

Wait on reviews

#

Generally I've seen that the 900 and 950 will arrive a week later than the rest

north torrent
#

I'm going to be thermally limited anyways, so I was sort of leaning on just going with the 5900x... But not totally sure.

humble remnant
#

Wait to see thermal reviews and go from there

crystal badger
#

ok you have physics right? I am thinking of a new system that might work and I want to brain storm a bit. When a particle goes off, movement of objects and anything that would change a pixel on the users screen while viewing it or it is visible to the player. Why not simulate the movement through pixels and the camera view of the player. For instance, If a player shoots a rocket at a distant object, I would like to delete the object the rocket hit and simulate the pixels that the player would see from a given distance. Anything that happens near the player that could affect the player would be handled in normal physics. Does that sound possible? Reason I am asking because it would allow for massive movement of large groups without moving the actors until the player is in intractable range.

bronze axle
#

Been watching the reviews today for the Ryzen 5000 series. Those are some beastly CPUs.

#

Definitely going to grab a 5950X for my next build.

plucky pagoda
#

I'm open to adoption before Christmas.

#

I promise to keep my room clean.

crystal badger
#

One way I was thinking of doing it was through flipbooks. Can flipbooks be 1 pixel and I would set them to be able to change through the whole color spectrum?

plucky pagoda
#

I need to read up on the memory sharing they were talking about with their GPUs

crystal badger
#

so it would be like this object overlap object get distance from player if debris radus less than distance from player run pixel simulator and move objects to landed locations then after pixel simulator is finished unhide the objects that should be on the ground or the pieces that are left over from the impact.

#

The whole point is to avoid all the physics calculations if possible and simulate them through pixels using the view angle of the player and location. The pixel simulator would update as the player moves to display the correct simulation at all times.

#

The pixel simulator would use the weights and gravity values of the objects to simulate the pixels.

#

Any examples of simulating psychics of 3D objects though pixels in a 3D space?

#

See the way it currently works is that movement from a far is translated through the engine to the display. I would like to avoid the movement and run the movement from far away through the pixel simulator. Then when the player is close enough move the object to the pixel simulated location and disable pixel simulation.

fresh heath
crystal badger
#

It could get to the point where you would simulate everything. Then all you would do is take inputs and pixels would change based on those inputs. Now everything is running though one prediction system nothing moves in 3D space at all. It is just simulated based on inputs, objects and screen pixel count.

#

But now take that simulation for water NVIDIA has there and think of it this way. Your players view would be that water and the game moves through that water. Just trying to think of the best way to explain it. If you look it takes a lot to do that water but we are talking about buildings falling smoke fire and water but simulated though just the amount of pixels of resolution that the game is being played at.

broken sigil
#

there would be a lot of problems with it, 2d is doable, 3d not so sure since there is also 3d collision you have to deal with and you can't really calculate the depth just from the pixel color
Also performance might be even worse than just running the physics simulation since it would also scale with the resolution

crystal badger
#

That is the whole point of it is to avoid moving objects on through the engine if possible thats why I was thinking everything that could interact with the players would have to be normal physics but everything else is simulated.

#

it would be like chess with invisible objects snapping around the game and the movement and display would all be simulated until the player gets close enough.

#

Oh even better!

#

I did not think about this.

#

The simulation is build into the client so servers are replicating values to the client and the client does all the simulation. Think of how much that would fix the whole mmo rpg issue we are having with unreal engine.

#

Players would only be simulating the amount of pixels of their resolution.

#

You go from moving 1000s of vertices across a 3D environment with 100 players(UE4s current acceptable player count) to updating only the pixels on a client so giving them the bulk of the work and avoid moving all those vertices across a 3D environment at 60 frames a second on the sever. Come on now anyone get me?

unreal cedar
#
  1. there are literally millions of pixels on the screen at 1080p. Vertex count in a particular view tends to be lower than pixel count for most games. Trying to match pixel size would be insanely bad for performance.
  2. You'd lose server authority, which makes cheating trivial
  3. Realtime fluid sims tend to have particles that are already larger than a single pixel (fudging that a bit, as 3d perspective pixels don't have a constant size). Running a realtime sim with enough detail for all the pixels on your screen is nowhere near realistic with current techniques.
crystal badger
#

That is what i wanted to know but looking at the nvidia video it makes me realize that it is possible.

unreal cedar
#

...it's not though, everything i just said applies to that video

crystal badger
#

we are talking gpu here

#

its designed to do these things

unreal cedar
#

sure, it has a limit though

#

just because something works in an isolated demo doesn't mean it'll work in a real scenario

#

regardless, nvidia's demos are fairly limited

#

impressive tech, but there's a reason it's a tech demo.

soft night
#

it works with Unreal

#

there is even the stream ofit

unreal cedar
#

that's not my point

#

my point is trying to simulate a whole world like that simply isn't performant

#

yes you can use it for limited FX

crystal badger
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see though you said cheating would be an issue. I don't see it that way if it is all simualted that means that there is only one simulation on the client and the client can simulate any level. The only thing a client could send to the severs is input then the server would send those values back to the simulator. Maps would be stored in some form of flat file rather than maps as unreal currently does

unreal cedar
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Cheating is an issue if you have to trust the client on anything.

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if the server isn't running the sim, it can't verify what the client is doing

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if the server is running the sim, then talking about only having clients simulate what's in view is irrelevant

crystal badger
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but your not your simulating data fromt he sever and only getting inputs

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only thing a player controls is their view angle and inputs like mouse and keyboard

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the simulation would use replicated data of say way light is pointing so that it uses the correct color ranges for anything.

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all calculated from the view angle of the client

soft night
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@crystal badger like in Flightsimulator?

crystal badger
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this would be done on client

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no lmao

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pixel simulation physics it will be the new best thing

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issue: can not compute physics of thousands of actors moving on sever: solution make clients gpu simulate everything through real time rendering.

soft night
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if client be trusted it have to send token in communication

fresh heath
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GPU is magic

unreal cedar
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that's what I'm getting out of this conversation

crystal badger
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everything will be done through an api gatway so no big deal

unreal cedar
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"The gpu is magic, don't worry about performance"

crystal badger
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and yes we do not use the full power of our gpu if anything we use it incorrectly.

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I like the real time rendering thing. I am going to look more into it. Just read about it when I was thinking about this

fresh heath
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Wolfenstein 3D is real-time rendering, you know

crystal badger
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It is difficult to say the right things when you just started reading about something but look at these noobs haha.

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They want their attention

fresh heath
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Anyway, can't wait to see the first implementation of your interesting idea

broken sigil
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same

crystal badger
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well i was thinking of starting will smaller resolutions and go from there. It is just something I am thinking about because I need 300+ player battles 2D characters 3D environment

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The bigger picture here is not for me though it is the idea that we could simulate 1000 of explosions and nice graphics without crashing the players client. Look what we have now. Walk in this room oh there is one zombie kill it. Walk in next room oh there is another. I would like multiplayer games to have full on 1000vs1000 battles heck yes!

foggy path
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PlanetSide 2 tried that

crystal badger
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my fav game

foggy path
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Yeah it was pretty cool

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I think there was one battle with like a 1000 players if not more, it did not run very well back then lol

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but with hundreds of players it ran pretty well still

humble remnant
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MMOs are always tough to handle

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Both for the client and the servers in many cases even with optimizations in place

crystal badger
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oh just came up with a good name for it

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"Reflection" Because it uses the water simulation to simulate what the client is viewing from the server.

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I guess first step would be to have the viewport the water and then start passing object shapes and colors into the fluid simualtion.

dusty yarrow
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@crystal badger bro u know why i cant load any?

crystal badger
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Then rotate the view angle of the fluid to see different sides of the shape

dusty yarrow
crystal badger
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did you make a tile map?

dusty yarrow
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what do u mean?

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i darged and

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droped a picture

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from my desktop into unreal engine

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this

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it is the image2198

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what do i do now?

crystal badger
dusty yarrow
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ok

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thanks matt

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the title look like boxes

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i want it to appear as 1 box

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so it become more looking good

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any tips matt

crystal badger
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see the map width and hight

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set those to 1 i think

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@dusty yarrow your picture shows 4 on both those

dusty yarrow
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if i increase the

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widht and height

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it will lag

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and btw, when i choose the title image, it wont choose it it, it will choose a small peice of it, unless i choose it all

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why it is so complex

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why i cant simple choose the picture and put it in that title

crystal badger
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you most likely need to set up streaming levels to make it not lag as far as the setup I wish I could help but I have never made one tile map ever ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

dusty yarrow
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ok

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thanks for helping me tho

crystal badger
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Because this is a open world game it looks like, you are going to want to look into how to use the profiler. This will show you what is causing the lag.

dusty yarrow
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it is not open world

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i want to make a limited world game

crystal badger
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well what I am trying to get at is the profiler can help you when trying to figure out why your game lags. From my understanding you will want to set up streaming levels so that you can split up what is loaded depending on where the character is.

dusty yarrow
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oh

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ok

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thanks

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what the freak is happening

crystal badger
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lol it got bigger well that did not work. That has to be frustrating. the good thing is when you figure it out you wont forget it.

dusty yarrow
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yeah

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i think this is a bug in the editor

crystal badger
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it might be some of those settings i would keep trying things

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did you try just selecting the corner and see if it fits

dusty yarrow
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im trying my best, so far nothing solved it

crystal badger
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one cell

dusty yarrow
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i can choose 1 tile of the real image

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but that not what i want, why i have a full image then?

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and it has 288 tiles

crystal badger
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I know I am just trying to revers engineer what it might be doing

dusty yarrow
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i cant wait to build 288 tiles for each 1 tile of my map

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by this i will finish the game next 10 years ๐Ÿ˜›

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anyway

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i will try to make at as 1 tile, but idk how lol

crystal badger
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Ill let you know if I figure anything out

dusty yarrow
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oh thanks, that nice from you.

dusty yarrow
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@crystal badger solved it

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but it does not look like desired either ๐Ÿ˜…

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guys any help?

soft night
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Razer Book just announced

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use lots and lots and lots ports

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high performance meet productivity

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use Intel 11th gen processors, IrisXE graphics

unreal cedar
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looks interesting, wouldn't buy it yet as intel xe is an unknown quantity but who knows, might be great.
Also the lack of win10 pro even on the top end model is weird.

soft night
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i think they offer option to get pro version of win10

unreal cedar
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not on their website they don't, as far as I can see

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if you go to the product page you can only add it to cart, no customization whatsoever

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i guess you can just upgrade after the fact

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still, a $2k laptop seems like it should have that

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not even an option for a 1TB SSD anywhere

soft night
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well my surface laptop came with windows 10 S

unreal cedar
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yeah but that was freely upgradeable to win10 home iirc

soft night
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and i updated to pro

north torrent
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RTX 3090 laptop.

humble remnant
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Gonna need a pocket nuclear reactor to run that

unborn lotus
unreal cedar
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if I hadn't bought a 3900X last year I'd be all over the new CPUs...

thin glacier
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So Iโ€™m not going to question the fact that Blender just deleted 204 vertices when I selected โ€œremove doublesโ€

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I just checked the mesh and it has 1,506 vertices (after removing doubles)

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It was probably an issue with the Boolean when making a heat shield

mint onyx
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in 4.26 i have made optimizations in Lightmass specifically for CPUs with many cores (like 3990x)

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basically to avoid some degenerated cases

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3990x in 4.26 can be 2x faster in some of them

cursive crypt
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Its good more software benefits nowadays from more cores. Hence AMD wins this turnover.

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But I was thinking about gpu compilers...

plucky pagoda
cursive crypt
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?

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lol

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Gonna sue for copyrights, but nah, mine is better ๐Ÿ˜›

fluid bloom
cursive crypt
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duh, there is 5950x in the store

median wraith
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about 60k record

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I will get a pin

peak gulch
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not that I have $$$ for one atm anyways lol

cursive crypt
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@peak gulch that kinda 20% above my price and I'm in EU.

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But don't worry, it will take some time, there will be some available :)
I say that tho, but my fingers itch, lol

peak gulch
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Yeah we get price raped with hardware here in Australia

cursive crypt
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Oh... Yeah, I heard you have hard time over there with hardware...

peak gulch
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Nvidia 3090 is like $2850 AUD min.

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Yep still running a Ryzen 1700 ๐Ÿ˜„

cursive crypt
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-> 2070 usd

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Ryzen 1700? Let me check.

peak gulch
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1st gen Ryzen

cursive crypt
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Ah, lol, its twice better than mine, I'm 6700k, its 4 cores.

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I mean, I'm happy with it, 5 years already. But upgrading is small celebration ๐Ÿ˜‰

peak gulch
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Yeah same here, does the job for now, and I'm slowly want to get off gaming and just concentrate making 3d game art .

cursive crypt
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8 cores seems about nice tho?

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If you have some well made system, say fast ram, nvme disks + gpu you should be okay for many tasks.

median wraith
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my 4 cores goes slow on compilations

cursive crypt
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That's why I started to consider upgrading. Shaders + cpp files can benefit a lot.

north torrent
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I'm in no hurry to get my new processor.

median wraith
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not sure what get next AMD or Intel

peak gulch
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Yeah helps running Blender/UE4 together and Substance Painter, have a 500GB nvme but about to get another 1TB nvme for xmas

cursive crypt
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@median wraith these 59x series seem good if you want to do it now. If not, wait mid-end of next year when Intel will get out their new arches. You may find something better.

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@peak gulch that sounds good enough! You may consult with some hw specialist if you want to tune up your system. For example these nvme + your gpu are fighting for bandwidth as your cpu can't support enough lanes. I dunno, giving ideas.

peak gulch
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Seems to be fine, but will look into it if I notice anything

north torrent
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I prefer to wait for the second generation of new architectures. That's why I didn't got with a Ryzen 3900x.

carmine frigate
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that was the 2nd ๐Ÿ˜›

cursive crypt
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lol, true

north torrent
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1st generation a 7nm processors.

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I didn't want to be a Guinee pig in case that all failed. 14mn ++++ for the win.

median wraith
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@cursive crypt ty for the info

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oh my mouse just broke, the right button random unclick and click

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๐Ÿ˜‚

north torrent
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Open it up.

median wraith
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well if is a core problem can't do nothing

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it unclick while is pressed randomly

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so cannot aim

north torrent
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My mouse had an issue that one screw became too tight and was telling the mouse one of the scroll buttons was always being clicked.

median wraith
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no, but here it unclicks randomly and return to click

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seems a signal fail

cursive crypt
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Aah, my fukin expensive mouse started to do this since almost the beginning

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I even complained here few times. Turned out they put just shitty switches.

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So, after being pissed off after a lot of time, I bought some (have few spare) switches and replaced them.

peak gulch
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happy with the newest addition

cursive crypt
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A Corsair fan ๐Ÿ™‚

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These keyboards are neat, but damn aint they collecting garbage all the time.

peak gulch
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Yeah they work alright, had the white one for like 5 years and recently the middle mouse click went on it, plus rubbed out in few areas

cursive crypt
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So tired of removing all the caps, cleaning, putting them back. Even once I put the wrong caps, so it stayed like this for few months.

peak gulch
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got the 12 button mmo thing to use in Blender but didn't work out has you bascially just remapping keyboard keys to them, rather then being additional mouse keys

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Yeah mine collects dust daily, need to wipe it, but whole house has this issue

tulip orbit
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my keyboard probably has a full meal in it

mossy nexus
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Is the mouse the same size as the picture on the box?! That's a massive mouse! ๐Ÿ˜„ ๐Ÿ˜„

tulip orbit
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well you know what they say about gamers with big mice ๐Ÿ˜‰

fresh heath
mossy nexus
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Big mouse cages?

tulip orbit
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"that guy has a big mouse"

mossy nexus
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Tru dat

fresh heath
#

It also noted that directors and executives will see a pay cut, with the company's president, group COO and representative director Haruki Satomi seeing a 30% reduction in salary. Bonuses will not be paid based on the current performance of the company.

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Not something you can expect out of a Western company

mossy nexus
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I made the move to a vertical mouse a few months ago, I couldn't go back to a boring flat one. ๐Ÿ˜„

rough lotus
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How does one post a message to looking for talent/looking for work?

fresh heath
coarse oak
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Sega Sammy shares are lit

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They give free resort tickets

humble remnant
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The Kinect mod is complete and I can confirm it works just fine as a webcam and depth detector

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Now the hard part, getting it to work with UE4 without paying more for a plugin than the entire Kinect setup

frosty halo
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@humble remnant what are you gonna do with it?

humble remnant
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Low budget virtual production

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Or hell, even low budget mocap

frosty halo
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I have a better idea if you have time to spare

humble remnant
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Using sequencer I can do many things with it

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I'm open to ideas

frosty halo
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Idk why but I have always dreamed of making a UI you control like that even if not a hologram.

humble remnant
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Dunno how precise it would be for finger motions and such

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But it works as a webcam either way

frosty halo
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I mean.. my suggestion is half jokey. You do what you want to do. But if I had Kinect and a leap motion Iโ€™d be trying something like that

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Leap should bridge the gap for hand stuff I think

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Mocap is a really cool idea though.

humble remnant
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Using IK and then manually fixing up noise can do a lot

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That's pretty much my initial idea for virtual production anyway, I want to goof around with it first before jumping into such advanced magic

frosty halo
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You donโ€™t need a significantly high resolution unless youโ€™re trying to overlay cgi over the suit. Otherwise just glue bright green ping pong balls for IK

humble remnant
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Yeah, that's an idea too

frosty halo
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Just promise me one thing

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No flossing

humble remnant
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I can't even do it so sure

frosty halo
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I need to figure out a way to do in house mocap

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Iโ€™m not a console guy so I havenโ€™t got what you have.

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But hey if you are inclined that way, itโ€™d be cool to see what you come up with!

humble remnant
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It's not a console

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The mod is basically you solder it external power, because Microsoft decided to only use a proprietary connector, then use a USB 3.0 cable for printers

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The thingy I taped on top is an LED transformer

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Then it detects the Kinect as if you plugged in the official adapter

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And that's it

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You now have a Kinect to use under Windows

frosty halo
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Holy shit dude. Thatโ€™s awesome.

humble remnant
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It may not be the prettiest solution, but nobody will see it

frosty halo
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Fair point.

humble remnant
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You can solder any 12V power that's rated at 2.5A or more

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Though preferably to stick in the 3A range

crystal badger
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Wait till you start scanning in 3d objects it textures it to

humble remnant
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I've seen some nightmares created by that kekW

crystal badger
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Yea but it is way better than building from scratch in some cases

humble remnant
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True

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Tbh I just got it

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I've never worked with a Kinect before

crystal badger
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In our case we make 2d out of them so there virticy count does not matter much

humble remnant
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Ah

crystal badger
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You will want to find the video on how the guy parents the bones in blender to fix the iradic movement of joints that the kinect fails at.

humble remnant
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Tbh I'll most probably just use the foot joints and IK to that

crystal badger
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Cool I cant wait to see what you do with it. Please share. At me whatever lol

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You the only one I have talk to that has the same setup

humble remnant
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I got it primarily for virtual production, but there's just so much I can do with it

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I got frustrated thinking of how I'll do animations for a 5 minute long video with what I have available

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Much more frustrating with my plans to do those 5 minute videos every week

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I'll see

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My plan is, again, virtual production with UE4

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The most surprising part for me is that it just worked when I plugged the USB, I had assembled the entirety of it before I was sure it works

crystal badger
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We plan on making a tutorial series for our method of making a character. Adding animation then using sprite synergy to convert those character and animations to sprite sheets with 8 angles around the character to be able to bring them into a 3d world.

humble remnant
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Would've been mildly infuriating if one of the solders detached since I applied some force to shut it close

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Welp, the plugin I have for UE4 just straight up crashes once it detects a body

crystal badger
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Yea I had mine on ebay for a year then someone bought it and I was like I'm not getting rid of this.

humble remnant
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Guess that's what I get for using a plugin last updated for 4.9

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If anyone knows of a plugin that works for 4.25/4.26, please let me know

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Or at least has source code to get it adapted

crystal badger
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Hmm I'll see what I can do because mine is not integrated into ue4. That would be cool. What plugin?

humble remnant
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FLKinect is the one I have right now

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Opaque Media have a Kinect plugin, but it comes without source and was last updated for 4.20

crystal badger
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Get from giy?

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Git

humble remnant
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Yeah, it was on git

crystal badger
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Ok

humble remnant
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I changed the build script and replaced .h references and it compiled successfully, but it crashes once a body even appears

crystal badger
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Any error logs leading you to the errors?

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In vs

humble remnant
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I should probs just launch in debug

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Lemme see if that works

crystal badger
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What is the best way to test this use third person example?

humble remnant
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It doesn't even say fatal error when it crashes, it just says:
"UE4Editor has crashed and will now close

                    OK"
hasty cargo
#

just check the log file

crystal badger
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I'll start looking into it now. I'll get back to you in an hour.

humble remnant
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Aight

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Appreciate the assistance

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Oh, before I forget

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I'm using 4.26 preview 4

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Not exactly stable but I doubt it matters for the occasion

crystal badger
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I'll be doing it for 4.25 source. Should not change to much if we are lucky.

humble remnant
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Huh

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Seems like the crash I get is from volumetric clouds

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But it doesn't crash if the Kinect isn't plugged in

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Nope, nevermind

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It just drops a breakpoint

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But clicking continue just lets it go

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Aight then

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Seems like worldActor returns null

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Oh, before I forget

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Using that plugin, I have an animBP setup where I call "get first active body" or something like that, if return value is true, debug draw body

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Maybe that's where it crashes

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I'll add a valid safeguard so that it doesn't just straight up crash

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KinectFunctionLibrary.cpp, line 76

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With an if(worldActor) it doesn't crash anymore

crystal badger
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nice ๐Ÿ™‚

humble remnant
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Yeah, it just needed to have a worldActor plugged in, I just connected it to Try Get Pawn Owner

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Seems to work aight now

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Yep, I can even see the debug draw

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Just gotta make a basic animBP and it should be good to go

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I might want to get one of those wide lens since I realized my space for the thing I want to do is small