Your parents didn't know how to lock the door?
#lounge
north torrent
zinc matrix
They open the door for night hoping u will come Mao
Trump
Your cat was jelly
So he got rid of dog
But i don't know why someone would be jelly over u
This is mistery
Mb youre great person just hiding it rly well
Nah jj
Jk
light spruce
😾
jagged owl
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfxuhwuIux23hVE4RORZX_Am0UMJlG1QDssb-kpEXe15f13aw/viewform?usp=sf_link Anyone between 16-21, can you fill out this survey? Its for college research. (Post permission granted once by DevilsD)
rigid shoal
This post makes me feel old.
jagged owl
I'm sorry man, you're welcome to fill it out if you remember what your fav games were in that age range though.
hahaha.
plucky pagoda
"Judge Rogers questioned Epic on when, exactly Apple became a monopoly given that its App Store rules have remained unchanged since the App Store launched, which Epic had no solid answer for, responding only that it was a monopoly when Fortnite came to iOS in 2018. She also said that walled gardens have existed for four decades and that what Apple's doing isn't too different. "They created a platform," she said."https://www.macrumors.com/2020/09/28/epic-games-apple-dispute-possible-jury-trial/
I'm more than a little concerned about the uncertainty of UE support for IOS in the future.
"Epic Games continued to argue that Apple has an App Store monopoly and charges excessive fees, but the judge pointed out that the 30 percent rate that Apple collects is the "industry rate" collected by PlayStation, Xbox, Nintendo, Amazon, Walmart, Best Buy, Google, and more. "It's all 30 percent and you just want to gloss over it," the judge said to Epic's lawyers.
In response, Epic claimed that consoles are "different" because the hardware is sold at a loss, but the judge was unconvinced. "There doesn't seem to be evidence supporting what you're saying," she said."
::The only thing I care about in all of this is whether we still have the ability to put something on IOS or not.
light spruce
That point isn't wrong, but it's a poor argument to make.
plucky pagoda
I don't see the difference at all. I've thought from the start that if Epic were to win the argument they're making it would effectively be the end of consoles.
I don't know that that would be a bad thing though.
spare glade
I highly doubt that, if Consoles were in such danger, we would hear about it....
plucky pagoda
If they can't enforce a closed environment I don't see what the incentive is to put so much into them.
spare glade
Simply closing off competition isnt enough?
plucky pagoda
I don't follow.
The same argument that supports that anyone should be allowed to have their own app store on IOS would seem to apply to consoles too.
light spruce
It's true that console hardware is subsidized by software sales, and without that percentage, that market would be a lot smaller because the hardware wouldn't be nearly as affordable. So it's that they have a greater cost because they're not making their profit from hardware, it's from licensing revenue, instead of only being a storefront and backend provider. But it's a bad argument because you can easily say that it's a distinction without a difference because 30% is 30%.
plucky pagoda
It doesn't seem relevant though. I don't see how the cost involved has an impact on the argument they've made.
north torrent
I just hope for my own selfish reasons that this in one way or another ends in Epic not bothering with Apple products in the future.
More focus on PC is always good for me.
rigid shoal
There's a lot of money in mobile games.
spare glade
This time around they may have simply tried to bite off more than they can chew. They certainly have expanded rather quickly into many different areas.
rigid shoal
You could put your game on iOS, perhaps.
north torrent
No.
plucky pagoda
I hope they don't end up walking away from IOS. I really need to be able to port to IOS. I'm locked in to UE for now but if a year from now we don't have IOS, I can't see how I wouldn't have to look at other options.
spare glade
Isnt Unity a better option for Mobile anyway?
rigid shoal
I doubt that Apple could just lock Epic out of the app store.
Epic is a pretty large company with a lot of developers relying on their software.
north torrent
I would celebrate if Unreal stopped supporting mobile... But that isn't going to happen.
plucky pagoda
Maybe if that's your only market but being able to make an IOS port of a PC game that could have crossplay between them is a huge boon.
spare glade
They maybe able to Lock out Epics own products, but i doubt they can Lock out 3rd parties that may simply be using the Engine.
north torrent
Companies like Disney use Unreal, and that's not a legal battle Apple wants to have....
rigid shoal
I think Unreal is better in all regards, and I'm not purposely being biased, though I've never used Unity.
plucky pagoda
I used Unity for years. I like Unreal better in a lot of ways.
spare glade
I havent used Unity for years but id argue its better for 2D if nothing else.
plucky pagoda
Yeah, absolutely. I tried to argue it wasn't but spending a week in it with 2D recently it's way ahead there.
rigid shoal
Okay, yeah 2D, but... besides that.
light spruce
The entire percentage focus doesn't really have a lot of relevance to their claims for monopoly
spare glade
Besides 2D, yeah Unreal all the way haha
plucky pagoda
There's no way I'd switch to something else right now. In a year if we lost IOS, maybe I'd look at GODOT or Unity. But it's hard to justify the time spent getting acquainted with a different engine.
rigid shoal
Godot should not be a consideration.
light spruce
It's pretty clear that all their focus was on the public opinion front and they totally ignored any of the legal aspects.
plucky pagoda
Why? My only hold back was console support and there's options for that now.
rigid shoal
Imo, it's just too small. Even the community. I guess it could work, but I'd be worried using it.
plucky pagoda
Unreal has a lot going for it with other areas though. I mean being able to apply your knowledge in it to film, Archviz, TV production ... It's a huge boon.
rigid shoal
Like, the only issue with Unreal and iOS is this spontaneous legal situation. It's somewhat minor. Even if Epic dialed back their iOS support, UE developers would still probably be able to ship for iOS.
light spruce
Yeah, pretty sure you wouldn't be doing any of those things with Godot
rigid shoal
Unreal and Unity are established with large communities and lots of support.
plucky pagoda
It's not that easy to just modify the engine to support iOS without access.
light spruce
Unless you were trying to bring back Transformers Beast Wars maybe
plucky pagoda
I just hope that when it's over we still have iOS support.
rigid shoal
I'm pretty confident that iOS support won't be jeopardized. Though, Epic may naturally be less eager to expand upon it.
light spruce
The way they've done things so far, would you be surprised if Epic just flipped the table over and said "Fine. We're not even going to bother with iOS at all anymore."?
plucky pagoda
Not one bit.
north torrent
I hope the world someday just flips the table and says, "Fine, we aren't going to bother with iOS anymore."
plucky pagoda
There's plenty of room for that energy to go into other areas.
rigid shoal
That decision would be incredibly selfish at the cost of Unreal users developing for iOS. I don't think Epic has that personality.
light spruce
Why not? They put people in the position they're in now
plucky pagoda
The only reason it's even on my radar at all is I'm working on something that might get a mobile port. If you'd asked me 3 months ago I couldn't have cared less if it lost iOS.
north torrent
Easy solution, just don't port to mobile.
rigid shoal
It's one thing to try and put the company in a better position, it's another thing to completely screw over part your userbase (of which, Epic has always promoted).
plucky pagoda
I would have said it would be a good thing for that dev work to be shifted toward realtime film or something.
north torrent
Port your game to a realtime film or something.
plucky pagoda
would love to,
I'm really interested in exploring making animated stories with UE.
light spruce
nothing but visual novels
plucky pagoda
More like cartoons
light spruce
interactive film
north torrent
Seems more beneficial to the world than mobile ports of games.
rigid shoal
Nah, Android is a meme.
plucky pagoda
iOS users spend money
north torrent
Blood money.
light spruce
Android is pretty rough. Massive hardware and software fragmentation.
and yeah, iOS is where you get users that buy things
north torrent
Yes.
Huawei phones are the best option in 2020.
The largest markets.
No adjectives needed.
Well, I guess largest is an adjective...
My point was that Asia simply has the most people.
rigid shoal
Asians like iPhones too.
north torrent
So they have the largest everything market.
fresh heath
How many people in Asia actually have money?
north torrent
Cars, clothes, boomerangs, breakfast cereal, computers...
rigid shoal
Asians spend a lot of money on video games.
Also, I think China's middle class population is greater than the entire population of America.
north torrent
Probably all of them that are not children.
rigid shoal
No, there's a lot of "poverty" in Asia.
soft night
so azure have issues right now
fresh heath
That's exactly what I meant though
north torrent
You asked how many people had money... which is pretty much all of them.
fresh heath
You are taking things a bit too literally
north torrent
I also take money away from my students when they think it is a toy...
rigid shoal
That would be the worst possible outcome. If Huawei dethrones Apple.
north torrent
We live in the worst possible outcome. Just walk outside.
rigid shoal
If China dethrones American tech companies, the world will be ruined.
north torrent
Wait... don't walk outside, you might catch the Corona.
rigid shoal
That would be awful. Competition between America and China would not be good for America (and the rest of the West).
fresh heath
Huawei has some interesting stuff being investigated at their Munich research center, I wouldn't mind working there
plucky pagoda
The US is in no position to compete with China on just about anything.
north torrent
The US is basically withering away.
plucky pagoda
We spent the last 30 years allowing almost all of our domestic manufacturing to be moved overseas.
rigid shoal
Why would you want to live in a world where China is super powerful?
plucky pagoda
I like living and already do.
north torrent
Any scenario is better than the current one we live in.
rigid shoal
There's really not much wrong with the current situation. In fact, it's pretty great.
plucky pagoda
I'm not saying I'm a fan of it but reality is what it is.
north torrent
Pretty great for me personally, but not for most people.
fresh heath
I would prefer the world where neither China nor the US are super powerful
rich quiver
@rigid shoal we already living in it
carmine frigate
i would buy a chinese gpu 🙂
fresh heath
@carmine frigate Wait until they take back Taiwan and get TSMC
rigid shoal
"take back"
north torrent
Corporation Stock Buybacks have drained the US of all life.
rich quiver
@fresh heath and then thailand
rigid shoal
I don't understand how people can complain about Trump and yet glorify China.
north torrent
The United States is a shell of what it used to be, withering away while the rats fight over how much they can take for themselves.
plucky pagoda
Acknowledging reality is not the same as glorifying something.
north torrent
Then you need glasses.
rigid shoal
China is 1000 times the dystopia that you think Trump's America could possibly be.
fresh heath
The US was sold out by Wall Street who got enough power to "optimize" away the US companies' manufacturing capabilities
rigid shoal
America is still the GREATEST. With essentially no close seconds.
north torrent
It is fun to listen to indocrtinated Americans talk about how evil China is.
fresh heath
@rigid shoal It sure has greatest healthcare bills
rich quiver
number 1 in crime in the world
plucky pagoda
I don't think that's supported by reality. We're behind by almost every meaningful metric. Education, healthcare, economic equality,
Job security,
vacation time
housing
rigid shoal
I don't understand how you can think the Chinese government isn't incredibly over-reaching in how they govern people.
Even the Chinese elites have a lot of power.
north torrent
I would take a US public school over a Chinese public school.
I would take a Chinese hospital over a US hospital.
plucky pagoda
shifting the goal post.
You keep doing that. Trying to equate one thing as being something else.
Saying the US has issues that need to be addressed is not the same as praising another country.
north torrent
China has its problems, but the US is kind of just scary on the world stage.
A world where neither of the two had overwhelming power would be the preferable option.
rigid shoal
American wealth is pretty high, but most importantly, wealth opportunity in America is unparalleled.
plucky pagoda
No it's not.
rich quiver
people forgot that US bases around the world are funded by the Chinese after the ww's
plucky pagoda
In fact it's declined a lot in the last 30 years.
rigid shoal
I don't know if it's declined, I doubt that. But it's still by far the best.
plucky pagoda
fresh heath
@rigid shoal Wealth opportunity in the country where you have to take crazy student debt to be competitive?
plucky pagoda
simply not supported by fact
rigid shoal
Just look at the stock market.
And wealth inequality doesn't mean a lack of wealth opportunity.
And America has a lot of INCREDIBLY rich people.
light spruce
Does this alternate reality also not have medical bankruptcies and cops that don't shoot black people for being black?
plucky pagoda
The stock market has nothing to do with the economic reality of 99% of the people living in the US.
rigid shoal
A lot of people have their retirements in the stock market. It's essentially the new pension.
rich quiver
no they dont
fresh heath
@rigid shoal America has people like Buffett and Gates, who create monopolistic moats around their businesses and kick down the ladder for future generations
plucky pagoda
401ks should be illegal. It is horrific that companies are allowed to invest the retirements of so many people into stocks.
rigid shoal
Yeah, why is it America that has all these tech super companies?
Americans have very easy access to capital investment.
plucky pagoda
which ones?
rich quiver
silicon valley
light spruce
Because they can pay people shit and evade taxes?
plucky pagoda
and how are they American?
fresh heath
@rigid shoal Because they ride on the momentum of the post-Sputnik Cold War investments
rigid shoal
Americans are paid higher than most, especially compared to Asians. Furthermore, these tech companies pay people pretty highly.
north torrent
I think when people talk about education in the United States they don't generally dig into the numbers to see the details of the comparison.
From my research and time as a teacher I have found that US students in most categories line up with the scores of countries in Europe and Asia. Kids from the higher tier of US public schools are generally competitive with the countries known for having very high level education systems.
What you will see when you dig into the numbers though is that the bottom tier of schools/students in the US is just incredibly, incredibly low. The US leaves a lot of kids behind and that incredibly horrible bottom tier brings the overall numbers down.
So it is certainly a broken system, but it isn't because it is bad across the board but because there is so much inequality between the good schools and the bad schools. There are also just so many individual students that get left behind.
But as a teacher in Shanghai I would certainly put my kid in a US public school before a Chinese public school.
rigid shoal
And 401k's are usually managed by the individual. Though, they may be limited to mutual funds.
fresh heath
@rigid shoal Americans also have the highest cost of living in the places where tech companies are concentrated, like California
rich quiver
i pay double then American on normal stuff
rigid shoal
Yes, but those companies still pay people highly, which is why those areas are have a high cost of living.
fresh heath
You can work for Activision Blizzard and barely get by from paycheck to paycheck
rigid shoal
And American education is actually the best in the world, but I don't care about that.
plucky pagoda
It's an issue with funding schools by property taxes. It creates inequality in education. In Ohio it was actually ruled unconstitutional by the state court and yet 25 years later we still do it that way.
spare glade
@north torrent Whats bad about Chinese Public Schools compared to the US?
rigid shoal
Activision Blizzard is not a tech super company.
north torrent
For anyone new here, Floss is famous for using 'But my 401k' as justification for just about anything.
light spruce
Why don't you skip to a logical endpoint and also argue that health insurance is a great idea?
rigid shoal
Most employers pay for their employee's health insurance.
The argument against universal healthcare is that it's expensive.
fresh heath
The best education: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ve23i5K334
plucky pagoda
That's a horrible thing too.
rich quiver
US ranks as 27th in education that bad
rigid shoal
That's the average. The bottom public schools drag everything down.
plucky pagoda
Tying health insurance to employment is bad for both business owners and employees.
rigid shoal
But the top outranks everything else in the world.
plucky pagoda
show me where you derive that conclusion from
rigid shoal
Just think about all the Ivy league schools. There are FEW competitors to those in other countries.
And a lot of European countries have INCREDIBLY high taxes. It's ridiculous.
light spruce
I would rather be having a migraine right now.
plucky pagoda
I'm done. I like having a real discussion but a deluge of constantly shifting unsupported malarkey isn't worth debating.
north torrent
The problem I have with Chinese schools is that they are based on memorization and not on having the students do any thinking for themselves, Mr. Boatswain.
My particular private school has the mission to be the opposite of that, and that's why they hire people like me. But in the public schools kids who think outside the box and come up with different ways to solve problems are basically taught that they are wrong for being that way. The teacher gave you a very specific way to approach this problem and you will do it that way every time and not think about it. @spare glade
rich quiver
i pay 11.5% on tax on everything i am part of the US
rigid shoal
What state?
But anyway, American federal taxes are usually way lower than European taxes.
rich quiver
is a US territory
spare glade
And you believe the US schools manage this style of teaching better?
light spruce
That's pretty similar to US schools. Teaching memorization for standardized tests.
plucky pagoda
I pay about 2% with deductions from capital losses I carry over and biz deductions.
And tax credits, those make up a lot too.
north torrent
Floss is generally right on his assessment of US school with the exception that he is incredibly overplaying the greatness of the top schools, Mr. Slivinski.
No, the top schools in the US are not 'the greatest in the world' but they are certainly competitive and in the top tier.
rigid shoal
I'm just saying, MIT, Harvard, Yale, etc... are pretty unparalleled.
And especially consider connections and ... as much as I hate to say it, prestige.
Even Xi Jinping's daugher goes to Harvard.
fresh heath
ETH Zurich is better than any US school
bronze axle
ETH Zurich is better than any US school
@fresh heath Why?
north torrent
US schools aren't great by any means, Mr. Boatswain, but I don't think they go out of their way to beat the intuitive thought processes out of you. They don't generally push you to expand you skills in creative thinking, but they don't beat it out of you.
But everything to do with US schools is relative to the area.
China is very standardized across every school. They have strict nationwide curriculums. The US varies greatly even in the same city. So I am sure some US schools are much better and much worse about this particular topic.
fresh heath
That's the impression I'm getting from following the top school's CS research output
rigid shoal
The academic curriculum, or the value of academics in China and Korean (maybe Japan too) are dystopian as fuck.
Even if they ranked well, you wouldn't want your kids to be living that life.
I'm Chinese, but to be explicit, yes. My parents also tell me stories about that.
north torrent
Please, tell me more about China's education system. I would very much like to learn from you and everything you picked up in your single trip to Shenzhen.
light spruce
Consigned to the memory hole.
rich quiver
USA own a island that government owns everything for 100 years and he blames china for doing the same
rigid shoal
What about the importance of the Gaokao or Suneung? That 1 year college entrance test? You don't think that's incredibly dystopian?
north torrent
If I learn about the Chinese education system from Floss maybe I can get a promotion at work.
I'll take notes and share them with the Chinese teachers I work with as well, I am sure they would like to learn about schools in China.
rigid shoal
I was asking genuinely, Mao, what do you think about the importance of their college entrance test?
north torrent
But to be clear, my stance on this issue is that I would 100% send my kid to a US school over a Chinese school. I just think Floss is over exaggerating both the US and China in a false way.
rich quiver
yes
north torrent
I do not like them at all, Floss, I just think you are over exaggerating.
There is a reason I work at an international school that is based off an International Baccalaureate curriculum, whatever that big word means... (I honestly don't know...)
rigid shoal
I don't mean to be rude or anything, but I don't think I am over exaggerating.
And that's IB, it's pretty well known amongst American kids. Though, my school didn't have it, hilariously.
north torrent
Yes, I know how acronyms work.
rich quiver
so your school don't have international students
rigid shoal
I just meant that it's popular.
My school was like 50% Asians from Asia. Not 50%, but like... 25%-ish.
mossy nexus
finds this highly amusing
rich quiver
🤔
north torrent
My students are all Chinese citizens. Two out of my 17 students have a parent that is a foreigner.
plucky pagoda
If you want to have a discussion, anytime you find yourself typing "I think" replace it with something that supports what you're saying. Otherwise it's just an endless self affirming waste of time.
bronze axle
There's nothing wrong with making a claim; just be prepared to back it up with evidence, even that just means an anecdote.
rich quiver
don't waste our time in a false clams without evidence
rigid shoal
I will try to find sources. But most of what I said, imo, were well known claims that did not require sources.
mossy nexus
🤣
plucky pagoda
It gets old when it's one claim after another that when it's challenged gets moved to something else. I'm just going to take a break for a bit.
north torrent
But my school is following the IB curriculum while still keeping to the Chinese standards for Math and Chinese class, as the government is very strict about those. We are actually currently under review by the IB board to get full accreditation from them which would open up great opportunities for our students if they want to apply for schools internationally later on. I actually have an interview with one of the top IB people based out of Australia on Wednesday as part of the accreditation process.
bronze axle
I will try to find sources. But most of what I said, imo, were well known claims that did not require sources.
@rigid shoal I would argue that every claim is subject to scrutiny. Without evidence, it's just that: a claim, and not to be taken seriously.
light spruce
The plural of anecdote is not data and the burden of proof lies on the claimant.
north torrent
I just find it funny when people who live in the United States lecture me on China. It doesn't bother me it all, it gives me a good laugh. The US has a lot of very negative propaganda ingrained in their brains about China.
I honestly think living in both countries is about equal. But on the world stage I would say the US is slightly more evil. But I would like a world where both had less power.
But that's just my opinion.
rich quiver
china buy alot of US debt
and Force a US territory (Puerto Rico) to add mandarin language as a third language
bronze axle
I just find it funny when people who live in the United States lecture me on China.
@north torrent Those people bum me out. I see that as a lost opportunity. I have some negative opinions about China - more specifically the CCP - but when speaking to people who live there, I'd rather learn everything I can about their perspective than lecture them about mine.
north torrent
The way China interacts with the rest of the world is going to change drastically once their 'Boomer' generation is out of power.
spare glade
I think that can be said of alot of Countries lol
rich quiver
the UK
spare glade
Australia as well haha
north torrent
There is basically one last generation of people running that country that still have the 'bitter' us against the world mentality. And if I grew up in the times they did I would probably be the same. But the newer generations that will be stepping into power in the coming decade are much more internationally minded and very friendly toward western culture.
Chinese people in general still really like the US even right now.
rich quiver
the european union will be destroy or drastic change will happen
since brexit will have snowball effect
north torrent
Though the other day when I was teaching good and bad personality traits one of my topics was 'Responsibility'.
I asked my students, "Is it good or bad to blame other people when you make mistakes?" and they said, "Bad".
Then I asked them, "Do you know any people who always blame others when they make a mistake?" and my whole class yelled out "tRump!"
So I asked them, "Who does tRump blame when he makes a mistake?" and they unanimously said, "China!"
rich quiver
yup
spare glade
The problem is though, does that say more about the US or more about China? I cant imagine that the CCP isnt influencing its populations image of the US and Trump.
light spruce
Now that's just a lie. The one thing he doesn't discriminate about is that he'll blame absolutely anyone and anything for something.
north torrent
I am just sharing the mindset I observed from the Chinese children.
north torrent
They don't have an animosity toward the US or tRump, but they have opinions on the way he acts. He is sort of just a joke to them.
spare glade
The only point that i get from this, is that every political platform is going to do 2 things, improve its own image and degrade the image of its enemies....
light spruce
LEDs are responsible for making him look orange.
rich quiver
yes
light spruce
Though, I guess taking that to its logical conclusion, they were probably manufactured in China. So... I guess they're right.
north torrent
You can buy MAGA hats in China. They are all made over here.
Can't buy Joe Biden hats though. Or Boe Jiden hats.
north torrent
And because it isn't a meme in China, there is no reason for them to copy the design.
Joe Biden isn't interesting enough for anyone in China to know who he is.
spare glade
Im Australian, so my opinion is irrelevant in the US election, but to me Joe Biden does not seem appropriate for President.
north torrent
Donald T Rump is basically Peppa Pig level meme to the Chinese children.
rich quiver
he already did 30 years in the government @spare glade
north torrent
Joe Biden is a very smart man and a very nice man. He also knows how to listen to the experts around him and follow their advice.
rich quiver
he have been in the government for shit ton of years
spare glade
He maybe nice, he may have been smart at one point but you seriously cannot deny that he has degraded mental capacity...
light spruce
Last time, the DNC fucked over Sanders. This time, he just got constantly shit on by rich people and mainstream media. And then a bunch of people stayed in the primary far too long.
north torrent
I would be friends with Joe Biden if he lived in my neighborhood. I would go get a beer with him and watch a basketball game.
rich quiver
i have to vote for 4 different parties plus PR house and Resident commissioner
so not the US system make sense to have 2
north torrent
Joe Biden has has a stutter since he was a child. It is not new and it is not age related.
But I do not support allowing people who are 70+ to run for president.
But if all the options are 70+ then you take the better of the 70+ year old people.
spare glade
Ive seen old footage of him talking at length under pressure with not a single misspoken word. Your lying to yourself if you think he isnt in serious mental decline.
rich quiver
and a plebiscite
north torrent
Kamala Harris is also a very intelligent and capable vice president if his age does become an issue.
spare glade
Then why is she not the presidential nominee?
north torrent
If you watch tRump speak in the matter of a minute he mispronounced Station, Mars, and his own name.... He is certainly in a much, much further state of mental decline.
spare glade
Really... 🙄
north torrent
Kamala Harris lost to Joe Biden during the primary race.
rich quiver
trump son is a drug addict
north torrent
I did not vote for Joe Biden during the primary race.
But I still think he is a good man.
light spruce
Trump's teleprompter reads "Marine Core" so he (hopefully) doesn't call them the Marine Corpse.
Pretty sure most people have really just fought "communism"
Communism didn't actually happen; it was some autocrat...oligarch... horseshit that was labeled as communism to rally people
light spruce
How close depends a lot on what definition you want to use for socialism
north torrent
In US politics the people on the right call anyone left of themselves communist, even other Republicans they are up against in a primary.
spare glade
The exact same thing can be said of the Left though....
light spruce
Yeah, but I was talking using an actual definition versus what is effectively "name calling"
north torrent
It is funny though that every time I go back home to the states everyone wants to lecture me about how bad China is.
north torrent
Looks dangerous.
light spruce
Let me know when there's a wheelchair variant
light spruce
America first ... in a race to the bottom
wild cobalt
First in Covid 19.
light spruce
I don't think it actually is per-capita. But I will look.
It's actually number 11 for deaths per 100k. 10 if you exclude San Marino, which I would since only like 32,000 people live there.
zinc matrix
Poor epic losing :(
Its cus arrogant
Big... Ego...
should i use blueprints and cpp? i wanna make a game set in a city, the map wouldn't be too big maybe the size of bully scholarship edition, would blueprints alone make my game run badly?
.
i heard some people say use cpp for the big functions and stuff and use blueprints for simple stuff but what is considered a big function and what's considered simple
fresh heath
C++ is easier when you aren't the only person working on the game
zinc matrix
im alone
fresh heath
You aren't planning to get more people on board ever?
zinc matrix
i might, but tbh i don't have many friends that are into gamedev and even the one that is, is kind of a flake, he's the type to quit and get lazy extremely quickly
fresh heath
C++ is much faster when you have a lot of logic that gets executed every tick or so
zinc matrix
give me an example
fresh heath
A lot of characters following their own routines in a city
zinc matrix
ok
fresh heath
If these routines aren't super simple, the CPU is going to choke with blueprints
fresh heath
Depends, if they are just sprinting directly towards each other then maybe you won't need it
If they are running to cover from time to time and throwing grenades, then this would be a bigger deal
It's hard to predict it like this
If you are really ambitious, then it won't hurt to make your project C++ friendly
zinc matrix
hmm ok, so do you think i should use cpp mostly for the npc's?
zinc matrix
i mean the map in bully is pretty small
fresh heath
You don't have to do everything in C++, it could be piecemeal
zinc matrix
for today's standard atleast
zinc matrix
yeah i heard that, tbh if everything had to be in cpp i would get too stressed
fresh heath
For a one-man developer a Bully-sized game is still ambitious
zinc matrix
yeah that is true
fresh heath
Rockstar's team that developed Bully was like tens of people at least
zinc matrix
that is true
i don't have trust issues, but when it comes to gamedev i do, i don't wanna just get anyone to work on my game and flake on me, and idk where i could find a gamedev group around my age
fresh heath
I totally get you
I'm also working alone
Tried to work with others, but unless you pay, people tend to lose interest too quickly
zinc matrix
that is true
zinc matrix
yeah, tbh none of my games are gonna make money anyways so that sucks, not cause im not confident about my game selling, but cause it's really complicated to get that stuff figured out in my country
fresh heath
If I could hire an artist I totally would, but I'm broke myself
So I learn Blender and Substance Painter to do everything myself
It's hard but I'm making progress
teal kindle
just keep lettin the info wash over u and build the practice time :p
zinc matrix
yeah, tbh i also kinda wanna be cocky about it, idk why but i've always felt like i just want to be the only one in the credits and the only one in the spotlight, i guess im just a narcissist.
teal kindle
if you ever hire an artist, it'll be much nicer on both of you if you have just some of the insight
zinc matrix
that is true, but im broke and my game won't make any money so it would be a waste to spend lots of money on it, plus the 3d art is tbh one of the most fun parts of making a game so taking that out of it would make all of game dev boring, so if i wasn't broke getting someone to work on the cpp would be my best bet
vestal salmon
north torrent
Banana
fluid bloom
north torrent
So no transparency?
zinc matrix
:C
north torrent
I could probably 3d model a banana smoothie in Blender.
quartz spruce
Good morning, Where would be the best place to pay someone for some technicial advise? I am trying to implement something into my game and struggling to work it out.
foggy path
I guess at least on this discord you'd post it on #looking-for-talent
quartz spruce
@foggy path Thank you, unfortunatly I do not have permission to post in that room.
foggy path
Check the pinned messages in that channel, it should tell you how to post :)
quartz spruce
@foggy path Perfect thanks.
mossy nexus
soft night
the Asus cards for RTX 3090 and 3080 use only MLCC transistors so give more overroom even tehre is old pics and videos what have things before they changed the thing
light spruce
.. what?
soft night
seems they found the issue and changed things on the fly
what cause the crashes what you hear
if asus did this so now how others react to that fallout
cursive crypt
I still didn't got it. Asus made it right, or bad? Who is right and who is bad?
zinc matrix
soft night
well asus made to that road more
@cursive crypt its all about the Hz point when the card comes more sensitive
well the poshcaps only seems caused issue as it lowed the limit below where the temp and core checks are there to get boost
cursive crypt
I see, but who has good cards and who does not now? @soft night
terse wasp
@zinc matrix Stick with BP until it does actually become a bottleneck. I've been able to get about 100 characters roaming around and chasing my player before I dropped below 60 FPS. 0 optimizations done on my end. I did it in the most straightforward way.
(Unless of course you want to use C++)
soft night
there is videos explain more as there is those teardowns from cards to look
fluid bloom
oof just upgraded my internets from 100 Mbps to 1 Gbps
now I'm wondering if I actually have cat5e cable or just cat5
foggy path
:D
Yeah I could get 1gbps from DNA here, but it comes with some kind of custom router from them and I'm like.. yeah I don't know
I care about stability more than the speed tbh, and my current connection (100mbit) has been very stable these days... and switching operators you never really know :P
foggy path
fluid bloom
my download speeds are now actually CPU limited
foggy path
lol
fluid bloom
I have dreamed of this moment since I was 15 years old
foggy path
time to get that Monster LAN card
fluid bloom
only getting around 20-30 MB/s from Epic's launcher
though probably being I/O limited here
quiet narwhal
make sure you disable windows defender if its running when downloading from the launcher, it really screws with disk speeds
fluid bloom
good point
light spruce
Don't forget to use directional ethernet cables. It will also improve your digital audio quality.
fluid bloom
I have gold plated USB-C cables, will that be enough?
zinc matrix
@fluid bloom nwo youre 16.
fluid bloom
sadly I'm 31 D:
light spruce
ehhhhhhh... you might be able to get by if you make sure to balance the cables with crystals
stiff crystal
sour shuttle
I scheduled a one on one meeting with the CEO of infinadeck for Thursday. If you have any questions that you'd like to me ask while I'm in the call feel free to let me know. https://infinadeck.com/
light spruce
Just need to get a datajack installed
ashen sundial
It feels so much better to use a controller for flying around the UE4 viewport than mouse + kbm. 🤯
fluid bloom
lies
ashen sundial
cursive crypt
I still can't get used to controlling movement + camera at once with controller. Less to make a headshot. Its clunky.
zinc matrix
❤️
idle birch
What's up everyone?
sage tendon
The moon, stars and the rest of the universe
novel latch
I happily placed my new 500gb SSD in my computer to work on some private projects 🙂
but still on my phone right now :3
light spruce
"private" projects
mossy nexus
Ahh poor Eric...https://twitter.com/HKrassenstein/status/1310945549659639816
light spruce
I'm guessing they ran out of room to put in "c) is Eric Trump and literally no one on the face of the globe cares about him"
fresh heath
light spruce
#notmypope
light spruce
Fucking amphetamines. Instead of developing something, I wound up spending nearly an hour writing some absurd fiction behind Diablo IV's skill tree looking like an actual tree.
fresh heath
Are you taking adderall?
quiet narwhal
its $60 US for godfall on EGS for me
zinc matrix
Fucking amphetamines. I
this guy is taking drugs in front of PC LOL
over
you probably wanted to imitate mr robot
rich quiver
alpine fern
I see it here for 60€
faint dagger
hi can one help me in vc
zinc laurel
zinc matrix
texture tf
yo would it cause problems if my game had like a playlist system and you can play your own music in the game, or would it be copyright.
grand trail
bronze axle
Nice Zak Parrish reference.
quiet narwhal
speaking of Zak I found this in a flea market bookstore this weekend. Can't wait to find him and get it signed
bronze axle
Wow, nice find!
unborn lotus
Anyone have a cloud sync suggestion like dropbox or onedrive that allows me to sync different folders on diff hard drives?
plucky pagoda
What are everyone's favorite web browsers for windows?
acoustic halo
Brave
light spruce
I run Brave on four different accounts, but still run Vivaldi on one.
plucky pagoda
I had some trust issues with brave because of the way he was trying to monetize it.
broken sigil
Opera, been using it for years now
plucky pagoda
@light spruce Ah, nice. I thought Vivaldi looked a lot like Opera, which I use to love, and I see now one of the founders from Opera is in charge of it.
and bitwarden has an extension for it
abstract haven
anyone know of a good 3D scanning application on android?
chilly igloo
Guys. Let's imagine some absolutely top-national-secret laboratory, military objects. I guess what in some cases they all 100% similar to regular office who sales air conditioners. This cases are: eating, so there should be some kitchen, and cleaning, so there should be some janitors. So... all those cook and janitors in top-secret objects - who are those people?! I guess for military objects its can be soldiers themselves, but what about laboratory making some air-space stuff?
bold fulcrum
I've heard that they are recruited through top secret discord servers these days.
sage tendon
@chilly igloo ever heard of NDA?
chilly igloo
@chilly igloo ever heard of NDA?
@sage tendon i did, but did that works for secret national security level objects?
cursive crypt
No, look what this guy Steven, Stunt, forgot his name, who ran in Russia did.
Romeo? 🤔
... whatever.
zinc matrix
lul
national security stuff is kept in area 51 in america
and laboratorians cant leave or they get shot with alien laser
so the secrets never get out
zinc matrix
@abstract haven displayland is an app for 3d scanning
zinc matrix
nm i think they going bankrupt
you can just take lots of photos of an object and put it in meshroom but you'd need to also have a pc or laptop with you
mossy nexus
@chilly igloo Governments have an equivalent of NDAs, in the UK it's called the official secrets act. If you work on anything with the government you have to sign it, usually several times over the course of your careers. If you breach that contract the consequences are far far more serious and often immediate than a civil NDA.
plucky pagoda
@chilly igloo They don't necessarily have to have a security clearance. They do an initial investigation and background check on people and give them the minimum level clearance necessary for the job which is often just an indication of a "favorable" outcome which more or less means it's more likely than not there's nothing wrong with their background. In the US a lot of those jobs are handled through civilian contractors. The HQ at the last base I worked at had a Starbucks in the building right across the hallway from the base commanders office the people working there likely had only a very basic background check done even though they were a few feet away from some high level stuff.
If you really want to know what it involves for most people all they ever fill out is a SF-86 which you can find online.
fresh heath
plucky pagoda
There's a similar issue with world comp that creeps up every now and then. You can watch the RAM start creeping up and up, and if you don't kill it it will eventually lock everything up.
Says it's targeted to be fixed in the upcoming release, though I'm a little surprised it's not marked as resolved if that's really the case.
it does look a little suspect
ugh, now I have to check the one I submitted
ugh.... it was marked resolved for 4.26 and now says backlogged
nah, 500 here to
I thought the one I submitted which was for Paper2D is related to another bug with Niagara and that being that it affected Niagara it might get fixed but looks like neither is going to be. Doesn't really have an impact on my work right now though.
cursive crypt
Yo, and yesterday I encountered a bug with udims. 100% crashing the editor. Just need two tiles with a bit different name (same suffix).
btw, I can open that link.
Can't vote for you tho.
Yeah, too fast to joy. There is a bug in the bug report page.
Too complex world.
... Also I doubt it will be fixed for 4.26 lol, seems as an way to just postpone.
As that rich duck said once: no loans today, come tomorrow. Problem this was on printed label in front.
plucky pagoda
All the ones I'm worried about are pretty minor and more of an annoyance than anything else.
That's a weirdly specific memory leak.
How fast does it eat up memory?
solid aurora
anybody have problem 2fa codes for epic ?
north torrent
Is the internet still a thing in 2020?
I just woke up from a coma, so I was curious.
I just realized that I am only 951km from Pyongyang, North Korea.
841kn from Wuhan, China.
solid aurora
I haven't had issues until today -;-
north torrent
Issues with what, the Corona?
Apparently that's the new fad in 2020.
At least that's what people told me when I woke up from my coma.
mossy nexus
It wasn't a coma. It was a comma.
fresh heath
north torrent
This is a comma, and this is a coma...
mossy nexus
and there there is the old song lyrics of comma comma comma chameleon... 😄
north torrent
Your perception of old is confusing to me.
fresh heath
cursive crypt
Can't man, have my own shit to deal with. dafuq you need 100 textures for one char.
tulip orbit
TIL
zinc matrix
is there a way to like make a fake city satellite image? there is a blender add on that automatically generates a city from satellite images but i don't wanna use a real city for my game
bronze axle
@soft night Looks really good. My distributor is on the partner list so I'll definitely be submitting my music.
fluid bloom
foggy path
lol
fresh heath
Does anyone know how F.E.A.R. implements bullet trails in slo-mo?
mossy nexus
I'd imagine slowly 😄
mossy nexus
light spruce
Could be an unpopular opinion, but I don't really care for the bullet trail effect. It's far too exaggerated from what actually happens. I'd rather see more of the ground shockwave where it drags dust and dirt out in a cone shape
atomic cedar
@dense storm CPU, mobo, ram and psu upgrade costs me around 1300 usd. Thats my reality 😦
dense storm
😦
atomic cedar
dense storm
where you from?
dense storm
damn :/
atomic cedar
I mean I love my country but taxes are stupidly high
dense storm
yeah
atomic cedar
Im able to buy from newegg but shipping is way to expensive
dense storm
you can get good second hand parts
don't listen to people who say "dont buy secondhand)
atomic cedar
There is no much second hand high end parts tbh
dense storm
i bought a server of ebay, half the price of a new one, and not had one issue with it
atomic cedar
If I were to upgrade to ddr4, would you recomend me amd or intel?
dense storm
well intel prices have dropped a lot on the new gen
but i prefer amd for work, but intel def if your just gaming
atomic cedar
Nah im 65 work and 35 gaming
atomic cedar
780 usd yikes
dense storm
i mean its the top range non Threadripper ryzen lol
atm
but anything is better than what you have now
atomic cedar
Keep in mind i´m 17 yo and I do not work atm and I will be entering uni next year. So I currently don´t have a way of earning money atm 😦
dense storm
ah
mossy nexus
How many kidneys to you have? 😄
dense storm
:/
atomic cedar
1
atomic cedar
I have so much things to sell but noone to buy them xd
atomic cedar
I still have my first gpu, 660 ti 
dense storm
😄
atomic cedar
Im about to do it lol
dense storm
say "i am a poor student with a major ambition to create the best game the world has ever seen in 200K resolution in RVR (Real virtual reality)
atomic cedar
Hey I have a shiity pc and i´ve been programming since I was 13, gimme money 
atomic cedar
Guaranteed success
dense storm
hmm
atomic cedar
Imagine having just 2 months to decide what to study on uni lol. Thats me
dense storm
ah! "My family has been kidnapped, kidnapper needs a new PC, ps, i am the kidnapper"
atomic cedar
ashen sundial
I will also accept free tutoring from any experts who want to give away their time.
full pebble
also just realized that there was a ue4 chat so either way RIP
full pebble
lol
ashen sundial
It's fine to ask for help, that's what the Discord is here for. Just don't expect people to reach out directly to you with their free time and give you free tutoring.
ashen sundial
#ue4-general is probably your best bet.
full pebble
thanks elocnat
rugged storm
welp i was trying to move 38gb of stuff to usb and at 99% i accidentally hit the usb drive with my foot and it disconnected
welp
foggy path
and people say "safely remove device" is meaningless!
zinc matrix
yo anyone know why my trophies never show up on uplay games?
tulip orbit
cause uplay sucks 😄
fresh heath
Me trying to pick a trace https://twitter.com/polclarissou/status/1311367890067652617
foggy path
lol
hoary imp
Lollll
foggy path
I was watching something recently and a young Rene Auberjonois was in it
Ohh yeah it was "The Big Bus"
I know these actors always from Star Trek and it's always kinda funny seeing them in something else
some of them often play kind of similar roles, like the dude who plays Quark often plays a sort of snarky mean characters
light spruce
That's called typecasting.
foggy path
Yeah, they do fit those roles well quite often so it makes sense
cursive crypt
White background on websites should be banned with law
foggy path
or maybe just configure your monitor brightness :X
cursive crypt
And another f... Greet card from Substance that I should subscribe instead. Think the perpetual maintenances live their last month.
Nah... I won't see a shit. It is calibrated.
foggy path
:D
cursive crypt
The upcoming months are the most expensive ones, even with all that discount hype - shower thought 🚿
zinc matrix
Today we will avenge
light spruce
I hate flu shots; my arm hurts
tulip orbit
that wasnt a flu shot, it was a bullet.
light spruce
hmm... then why didn't I return fire?
tulip orbit
gun arm was disabled
light spruce
I can shoot with either hand as my primary, but I'm right-eye dominant so my carry rig is a right hand draw. However, I clearly have a bandaid on my left arm.
tulip orbit
They shot you then put a bandage on it? nice of them
light spruce
it was in a doctor's office
tulip orbit
explains the bandage then
light spruce
to be fair, I do actually own some myself
tulip orbit
are you qualified to install bandages?
light spruce
Yeah, but I'm not insured against hair removal
tulip orbit
the insurance for that is ridiculously expensive 😦
light spruce
profits before people
light spruce
somehow, I wound up drawing a helmet
tulip orbit
I'm gonna try and get some more sleep...
light spruce
I should do that too. It's 0200
cursive crypt
I ate a cake and now I want to sleep too.
north torrent
Anyone know any good Discord servers for music production/recording?
tulip orbit
I know nothing.
fluid bloom
are you Jon Snow?
tulip orbit
no, but I'm just as moody
tulip orbit
fresh heath
Minecraft's Steve is in Smash Bros now
graceful socket
that caused me a brain hemorrhage hearing that news from sakurai
I'm new here btw, nice to meet ya! 😄
soft night
junior meteor
masters, any material on spawning and editing BP parameters within active editor (Live)
cursive crypt
yt?
cursive crypt
Ad campaign? 3 times for happiness 🤔
fresh heath
light spruce
But are they actually going to ever build that System Shock 2 reboot?
fresh heath
They were remaking System Shock 1, not 2
Haven't heard about it in a while
I think they stream its development on Twitch regularly
On this channel https://www.twitch.tv/nightdivestudios
light spruce
They're remaking both apparently, though I actually thought it was the second one that they were doing
fresh heath
I remember that they only made some patches to System Shock 2's recently "rediscovered" source code
light spruce
Why is rediscovered in scare quotes?
fresh heath
Because it was leaked anonymously by someone who shouldn't have had it or something, I don't remember the full story
It wasn't obtained directly from Looking Glass
light spruce
If the rights they have include the rights for the source, it's not really an issue so much as something weird.
There are a lot of old games where no one has the source anymore because ... why would they?
fresh heath
By the way, it would be really cool if Epic opensourced Unreal 1 and Unreal Tournament'99
light spruce
"Well, Jim ... we're out of business. Here's a box of drives with the version control database on it. Don't lose it and keep it for eternity"
fresh heath
Doom 3 BFG Edition is probably the last game id Software released under GPL sadly
Without Carmack there's no one to push them to do it
light spruce
I don't know that I would be super excited about it. I don't know that it'd have the craziness applied with it like Doom.
I definitely don't think that Unreal was nearly as influential
fresh heath
UT99 is still a blast to play
I was running my own UT99 server for me and my friends about five or six years ago, it was a lot of fun
light spruce
Yeah. It was fun. But there are plenty of fun games. I'm not sure what you'd really get out of the source for it at this point.
fresh heath
Port it to Raspberry Pi lol
Actually, to any Android device
Even the Switch maybe
And to new ARM64 Macs
light spruce
port it to I CAN'T STOP FUCKING SNEEZING
porting it to arm would probably not be fun
It did at least have a linux port, but who knows how rough that is at this point.
fresh heath
Ports to WebAssembly are also getting popular, I've recently seen one for Super Mario 64
It was made from the decompiled source
mossy nexus
Nintendo had to get a copy of an old game of theirs from PirateBay.... Oh the ironies 😄
light spruce
Re: System Shock, I still think the Unity build that had the blockier texture filtering is a cool look. I've dicked around with a post-process shader in UE4 to create a similar gritty effect. Results were mixed.
I think it was actually Super Mario Bros. that they just downloaded someone's rom somewhere to throw in their emulator.
foggy path
the current version of it is looking pretty good too
mossy nexus
Probably, now that you say that I know it was a ROM. They probably downloaded it, then hit them with a DMCA/C&D
foggy path
was watching Realms Deep and they showed some stuff in UE, custom dismemberment system
I was like okay I'd like to have this in my game thx
:D
light spruce
Yeah, it was Super Mario Bros. for the Wii virtual console
foggy path
they shoulda called it Wiirtual Console
light spruce
Nuclear wessels?
The super bright-ass colors in this remake remind me a bit too much of when mappers suddenly had colored lighting and everything looked like you were tripping balls in a discotheque
foggy path
I kinda like it, it's sort of a retro scifi aesthetic :D
light spruce
Bit too extreme for me.
novel latch
insane
Genshin Impact downloading at 10mb/s today
I might actually start playing it today
also, I'm not a weeb, just generally interested in this chinese zelda copy paste, because I never played switch zelda 🙂
light spruce
weapon durability the game
fathom wadi
was watching Realms Deep and they showed some stuff in UE, custom dismemberment system
@foggy path I've wanted to do a true gore system with UE4 for ages now but it's a fairly long winded process to setup right. I don't even like gory stuff anymore (thanks real internet gore videos) but it seems like we haven't had a full on realtime system for it yet.
foggy path
yeah I mean overly realistic gore is kind of meh
but I don't mind stuff that's kind of stupid and over the top
it was very interesting seeing the short bit on the stream which actually showed their tooling inside UE for it
they had a system that looked like it would allow you to assign different things into bones or something inside UE with custom editor UIs
lol probably not for that game :D
light spruce
needs more Gorn
fresh heath
fathom wadi
4080 I guess.
I think we will see a push to use their new ARM blueprints in construction and we might see something crazy in production worthy AI terms. Either that or some alignment to engines moving towards per pixel rendering.
fresh heath
I would really like to see competitive workstation-class ARM CPUs
hearty prism
hi
fresh heath
lo
Twitter
There's also this: https://twitter.com/GameHasNoLimits/status/1311774838776827909
What is the landscape problem? I haven't tried to make any landscapes yet
fathom wadi
Nope he's right. There have never been any mountains in any UE4 games. Only grey scaled offsets. I tried to make a mountain in UE4 once but it lacked the atomic structure to contain the entire thing.
north torrent
I had a dream last night that there was a baby grizzly bear living in my house as a pet. But then it stopped wanting to go outside and look for its own food and didn't want to follow the rules of the house. So then I decided that there is no way this bear can stay in my house when it becomes bigger, and it is very unhealthy for it to get too reliant on my food. So I used food to trick it to get in the back of a pickup truck I rented for Enterprise and then I drove to the animal shelter and dropped the bear off so the experts could re-assimilate him to the wild.
It was an odd dream.
sage tendon
the wild being the borg and the enterprise being from starfleet?
north torrent
Enterprise is a rental car company in the United States.
light spruce
The bear would eat them.
mossy nexus
I left school 32 years ago
soft night
i just watched bill nye to code
mossy nexus
damn that makes me feel old 32 fucking years lol
tulip orbit
practically ancient
soft night
https://clips.twitch.tv/PuzzledEndearingVanillaRalpherZ he is on his prime too
light spruce
I was just saying something recently to a friend about him having lost his clan in a game... Finding a group to game with is just like dating, once you're over 32, give up.
Because everyone is going to be younger and dumber than you are.
light spruce
Pandemics are also pretty rough on dating
"How would you like to go hang out on a sidewalk and talk from two meters away?"
light spruce
"Hey, girl... you wanna yell at each other about Robolox from opposite ends of a public park?"
tulip orbit
the pandemic hasnt altered my chances for meeting ppl, I never leave the house anyway
tulip orbit
🤔
light spruce
Sure. You're just talking about a non-zero amount
broken sigil
🤔
fresh heath
Is anyone still using OkCupid?
north torrent
Do you have to social distance if the girl you are dating is your cousin and you live in the same house?
Or step sister?
fresh heath
🤔
north torrent
Or other socially unacceptable norm?
light spruce
Is dating your step sister a "so.... oh. unacceptable. Misread. Not sure it really matters at that point.
broken sigil
🤔
north torrent
I live in China, nobody here has any shared DNA with me.
light spruce
Maybe you need to share some DNA ... if you know what I mean.
north torrent
No.
broken sigil
I can teach you how to be single forever, trust me I have experience 😉
north torrent
Being single is generally preferable than being in a relationship.
light spruce
I guess that all depends on how your math plays out.
I'm always pulled in different directions with it.
fathom wadi
damn that makes me feel old 32 fucking years lol
@mossy nexus It's good to feel old. It means you survived. Takes a lot to survive this hellhole.
north torrent
@fathom wadi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5POReSB4Os
If you don't know, then I certainly don't know for you.
fathom wadi
its glorious
Often the question is asked "does humour belong in music?" and I say... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c3OHuVpwx0
north torrent
hidden drift
i feel oddly excited today because i figured out how to do the portal effect in unreal engine... without changing the game engine code itself.
light spruce
Congratulations
north torrent
Science!
light spruce
This was a triumph
hidden drift
now i just need to make a whole youtube series about it and wait for the 4 views to come rolling in.
light spruce
you'll get more than four just from bots
hidden drift
bots are the only "people" that ever comment on my videos.
i keep deleting the comments.
light spruce
reach for the stars
hidden drift
i'm being pessimistic... i do have some videos with 170k real views....
light spruce
"Yeah ... sometimes not blowing up is the best you can hope for." "Way to reach for the stars."
hidden drift
but to be consistent on youtube i realistically need to quit my job and go full time on youtube
foggy path
YouTube canceled my partnership by moving the goalposts before they had to pay me my 100 bucks
:D
hidden drift
i declined enabling ads in 2007. in retrospect maybe that was a mistake.
foggy path
I dunno, unless you get craploads of views it probably wouldn't have netted much :P
hidden drift
i have a theory that i can't prove that youtube doesn't promote videos they can't monetize.
why would they want more people to view my videos if I have ads disabled for all of them?
light spruce
I have a theory with anecdotal and logical support that YouTube is morally bankrupt
light spruce
I definitely wouldn't want to do YouTube full time.
hidden drift
anyway, i'm still excited about figuring out the puzzle on how to use ue4 to make a "fake" portal 3 game.
light spruce
A lot of people don't seem to realize that it is, in fact, a job
hidden drift
I would rather do ue4 work full time instead of my present job, but i know it won't pay as much, so i basically need to be ready to retire to do that.
light spruce
It's a lot of work, you never know when they're going to change the rules, you never know when you'll get content ID matched on something that ... actually isn't even the thing that's being claimed, totally irrespective of any kind of fair use laws
foggy path
Get job at google and live in a van for a 10 years and you'll have saved a lot of money!
light spruce
You would probably have to live in a van to work in that area
hidden drift
i've already been working in the bay area for 21 years.. i'm actually pretty close to ready to retire, but my wife isn't ready for me to retire.
i live in the same zip code as google.
foggy path
so you could probably afford to do YT full time then lol
hidden drift
Yes, probably.
light spruce
In that case, just think about how if you DIDN'T live there, you'd actually be rich
foggy path
..at least if you moved somewhere with lower living costs
hidden drift
if i ignore the cost of housing here.
instead i get a house on a 5000sqft lot (which is actually a lot for here but bad everywhere else)
hidden drift
most parts of the country put houses on quarter acre lots...
acoustic halo
random question, anyone have a recommendation on logo animation software?
light spruce
"I make 250k a year! But, it turns out, it's actually the equivalent of a custodial engineer in Nebraska because I live in a literal dumpster. There are used needles and everything."
fathom wadi
@acoustic halo Animate is decent but it's more generalised than just logos
foggy path
The real pro move is to get a remote job in the bay area while living somewhere cheaper
Get the bay area salary but none of the living costs
hidden drift
when i first started working in the bay area, figuring the cost of housing, I realized that I would only need $60k/yr in texas for the same lifestyle as 200k/yr in the bay area... unfortunately my starting salary in 1999 was $100k.
foggy path
I did that for a 6 month contract and it was nice lol
acoustic halo
@fathom wadi as in Adobe Animate?
hidden drift
the pandemic lets me work from home now, so at this point, it's unclear that where i live even matters.
fathom wadi
yup
hidden drift
i've read that some companies are re-basing salaries based on the home address you claim.
foggy path
some of them probably do that yeah
acoustic halo
@fathom wadi do you happen to know if it has stuff like layer effects similar to photoshop? my use case requires two images and i need to have one negate the other during an animation
fathom wadi
yeah its called masking
hidden drift
i have strong bias against using adobe products... because of the subscription model.. i would probably use blender for what i imagine you guys are talking about.
acoustic halo
@hidden drift this is strictly for a 2d logo animation
north torrent
Use a VPN so that you look like you are working from San Francisco. Then work from home in Kansas. Save money, get rich, die of Covid, success.
foggy path
The subscription model is fine if you're using the products professionally because you can claim it in taxes or w/e
but it's a pain for personal use for sure
fathom wadi
Animate is fairly complete in terms of code you can add to it and animation. It can also rig a 2d model if you want to go down that route. For something simple though, it excels
hidden drift
just use GIMP then?
acoustic halo
ohh the rigging feature sounds very nice
north torrent
Maybe.
fathom wadi
GIMP can do it too
light spruce
Krita4life
fathom wadi
nobody likes working in GIMP tho
fathom wadi
photoshop does too
hidden drift
i've been working in GIMP for as long as it has existed, so i actually know it better than I know photoshop
acoustic halo
ive honestly never looked into using a photo editor for that, could be neat
north torrent
MS Paint?
light spruce
Photoshop has had some kind of animation stuff since at least CS6
fathom wadi
I wish I had @hidden drift . I wasted too much time on Adobe products
hidden drift
the only adobe product i am in love with is postscript.. i've been programming in it since the early 90s
north torrent
Even if AMDs new Navi beat out the RTX 3090, I don't think I would give AMD gpus a chance...
fathom wadi
Flash was always my thing. So Animate is a natural successor for me. But I dont use it myself. My kid does
light spruce
I never cared for GIMP. But I did move to Krita some time ago. The tool palette system still sucks.. and the text support is awful... but actually using it for stuff is pretty solid.
hidden drift
HTML5 got me off flash. I started doing animations directly in webpages without any plugins.
acoustic halo
alright so for an animation of a logo moving around, requiring some effects like negating two layers, glowing, blurring, chromatic abberation, etc, would Photoshop work? I'm already subbed to PS and I doubt the trial of Animate would let me export what I need
light spruce
I have a Krita window layout called "Mr. Dogshit" that sets up a single window across two displays... because while you can have floating tool palettes.. none of them dock to each other or scale if they aren't docked in the main window.
hidden drift
to be fair, it was actually chrome banning running flash that got me off flash
foggy path
Unless they've improved the photoshop animation tools I don't really know if it can do that
They've been very rudimentary at least in the past
acoustic halo
yeah and judging from videos, it doesnt look too promising
honestly just looks like it offers flipbooking
foggy path
Yeah, like basic keyframed animation
light spruce
I would do stop motion with paper cutouts first
acoustic halo
lmao
light spruce
At least that would have some style to it
acoustic halo
alright well ill try digging into Animate, thanks fellas
hidden drift
the last thing I animated: https://nlaredo.github.io/playmidi.html (just hit the dismiss button and start typing or use the mouse or touchscreen or a midi keyboard)
hidden drift
yeah, it's a visualizer i made.. that i'm now re-making in unreal engine.
intended mostly for piano streamers on twitch/youtube/etc.
light spruce
So, my initial impression is "how did I accidentally open DOS edit?"
hidden drift
the particles are just boxes drawn on a canvas.
foggy path
nice :)
fathom wadi
@acoustic halo the trial is a full product. No restrictions except perhaps in some licensing deep in the crevasse of Adobe's legalese.
light spruce
V and F are both F4 KERNEL PANIC
hidden drift
the sparks are just math drawing a funky half circle with random points where the radius expands.
foggy path
last time I really did anything in canvas the performance of that was abysmally bad lol
but this was in like.. 2007
hidden drift
turns out this canvas thing runs at 240fps on my gaming laptop
so it's entertaining for sure.
fathom wadi
@hidden drift I quit Flash and web development around the time HTML5 took off and Bootstrap took over how people wanted their sites made. Made the jump to game dev and never looked back.
light spruce
I think it might be very telling that when I turned on the fire thing (because of course I would) that I thought it looked kinda like a dick
hidden drift
i did another example where i blew apart someone's jpg image into 80000 pixels in html+javascript and it animated at 240fps for me too
where the image basically "exploded" in a pattern
foggy path
you could do it with very high performance using shaders in webgl nowadays
fathom wadi
Imagine trying to do this in Flash. Ahem. 🙂 https://paveldogreat.github.io/WebGL-Fluid-Simulation/
hidden drift
by profession i'm actually a C programmer writing things like BIOS for servers.
so html+javascript is far from my domain
foggy path
There was actually that sorta stuff done in Flash iirc
Flash rendering was decently quick
light spruce
Is this sound like a 30% PWM?
hidden drift
marc: i just started trying to teach myself webgl and then i discovered unreal engine 4 and asked myself "why am i doing this to myself?"
love the look of that fluid sim
fathom wadi
@foggy path not for the good stuff. When I hit the 3d domain, it was running awful with around 2000 polys. That being said, you could fake something similar I guess
hidden drift
i made my first shader based material in ue4 just last week.
fathom wadi
I did see some fluid dynamics in flash tho. Shame it will all be lost soon
hidden drift
looks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WUgb6Q9h30
fathom wadi
My first shader was a dynamic spline I used to create winline indicators for a slot machine. Made me realise that if you can get the data in, the sky is the limit.
light spruce
if you want drugs.avi, I need to upload the footage of my nightmare shader that happened by accident
fathom wadi
that music is super chill
hidden drift
the original video had a flythrough, but OBS recording got all frame-droppy on me so i had to cut that part out.
next time i'm just going to record the output externally over hdmi
i am guessing the problem is the laptop is displaying at 240fps and recording at 24fps in OBS.. or that unreal engine somehow blocks the gpu video encoders
foggy path
if the game is maxing out your GPU it used to cause stutters in OBS due to render lag
recent OBS versions should no longer do that at least if your windows 10 is up to date and you run OBS as admin
they added GPU scheduling into Windows 10 and OBS supports it now
hidden drift
i don't run obs as admin. i guess that's my problem
but since i have an atem mini pro, i can just record with that next time.
fathom wadi
plugins could add streaming support fairly easily to UE4 I reckon. I mean the entire thing is slate so its render info is already there. Just need to get it out in a format via an interface. hmmm. tempted to go wrap the entire editor in a retainer box and see what happens 😄
light spruce
gpu scheduling has generally just shit up background performance as I've read
light spruce
Does that mean that OBS actually can do something else with it?
hidden drift
actually now that i think about it, whenever i start a game, the nvidia experience asks me if i want to start some overlay.. i should use that to record.
foggy path
The problem with the render lag in OBS was that if the game uses 100% GPU, there's nothing left for OBS to do scene composition
fathom wadi
I wouldn't. That thing lags my editor really bad
In fact, turn it off and you might find OBS works fine
foggy path
My understanding of the GPU scheduling fix was that windows can now prioritize OBS over the game, so there's always resources on the GPU for the OBS rendering
hidden drift
i think for me the fix will be to just make the game rate-limit itself to 24fps.
i just need to figure out how to do that in unreal engine.
with my gaming laptop defaulting to 240fps, these things seem to want to run with full framerate except when running in the editor, which for some reason limits itself to 60fps
light spruce
What I read about was that that any kind of video stuff just ate shit and dropped frames if a game was running... so it just didn't care about background stuff at all
hidden drift
though yesterday i was seeing 120fps and i'm not sure why
fathom wadi
the editor runs at 120fps by default
hidden drift
(also after 3 weeks working in blueprint, i learned that I should have started all my projects in C++)
foggy path
I dunno, all my BP projects worked fine if I needed to add C++ stuff into them
fathom wadi
If you can code for sure. I setup my projects with base C++ classes for most everything because interfacing between BP/C++ used to be a pain, so I got in the habit. It's less painful these days, but still, it gives you a platform to place time critical calculations and optimisations. Better doing it sooner than later.
hidden drift
i made the mistake of making structures in BP and wanting to use them in C.
(because I'm a C programmer ... as i mentioned earlier)
fathom wadi
you can access it in C++ but it's accessed the long way around
hidden drift
turned out easier to just kill the BP and rewrite in C++
fathom wadi
kinda like checking the asset registry if it exists then getting the ref/pointer etc
yeah simpler to make them in C++
foggy path
Yeah I've had to move a few structs and enums to C++
hidden drift
then anything i want to do in BP can just extend C++ classes, and i'm golden.
foggy path
My philosophy is to not overthink how I make stuff... it's a fairly trivial task usually to move something over to C++, and when I'm building new systems BP's are faster to work with when I don't necessarily know how I want it to work
fathom wadi
I live in a cycle of necessary recycling due to blueprints. They are just too quick to prototype with. So I end up deciding which to re-write. Not the fastest workflow but sometimes you need to know if it works before you get serious on the code
foggy path
yeah
hidden drift
i guess i'm in a unique position in that I am porting code i originally wrote in C for linux in 1992 to run at the command line to use unreal engine 4 as its "compatibility layer" to be multiplatform and have nice visuals.
foggy path
I'm doing a lot of prototyping for new game systems and such and I just have to have an implementation of something before I can tell if it's going to work :P
fathom wadi
I converted C source code a couple of times and aside from some confusion with char types and how to convert, it was fairly straight forward.
hidden drift
most things would be, but this includes a software synthesizer.
or let me phrase it this way: i'm porting my midi player with soft synth to unreal engine
fathom wadi
a sine wave abuser 😄
north torrent
Unreal DAW.
hidden drift
it does know how to abuse sine waves, yes.
fathom wadi
I had a plan for a Markov Chain for game music creation using the added Audio Engine a couple of versions ago and never started it. It's been in the back of my mind for ages.
hidden drift
and yes, it might be an unreal daw at some point, for some definition of daw.
north torrent
If I could just plug my Kontakt stuff into an Unreal DAW I would be happy.
hidden drift
by the time i'm done you'll be able to plug some VSTs into unreal engine.
fathom wadi
I would be happy with Music XML and let the engine do the rest. Perhaps some UMG Sheet Music and Midi Notation editor
hidden drift
unfortunately since i'm still working my paying job full time, by the time I'm done, years will have passed.
north torrent
I will be dead by then.
fathom wadi
I think I could run up a Midi stave pretty quick in UMG. I mean all the tools are there.