It's a medical thing.
#lounge
fathom wadi
im a bit rusty on the facts tbh. Its been a while since I checked it out
agile egret
Well yea, there is all that drama, but we shut all that down.
proven thorn
Sounds rough, sorry to hear the turn of events @agile egret , @fathom wadi
agile egret
NeOcean, OceanX, OceanY
fathom wadi
@proven thorn I see it as an opportunity in my case. The plugin I was writing was hacky at best anyway. I mean, it let you have properties on classes without editing or extending the classes directly. Not a great plan but my plugin worked anyway
proven thorn
Sounds similar to the Json property thing I wrote. (Never released it)
Although, it wasn't a plug in as you had to modify the Engine to make it work.
fathom wadi
yeah I bet your code was tidier than mine tho. I had no UPROPERTY help at all. I had to do all the serialisation manually π
and dont get me started on the reflection system.... oh my
Needless to say, the engine has better options now so I can just keep it as experience and be proud I made it when nobody else had. A world's first is all I ask.
In other news, I asked Tim Sweeney about moving projects that use PhysX between 4.xx and 5.xx
proven thorn
Hard to say, it just performed look ups and created objects to represent the properties.
fathom wadi
look at me. Hanging with the celebs tonight π
agile egret
Who?
fathom wadi
Should be. He is a living legend.
agile egret
I'm sorry Mr. Bill Roper xD
zinc matrix
Yo!
I'm just starting to try out Unreal again. I've had some time playing around with Unity for a while, but I feel like Unreal might end up being better suited for me.
Most of my experience is as a 3D artist in Blender, and Unreal seems more familiar, and it also has so much already built in and operational that Unity lacks in. Visual scripting for example.
fathom wadi
welcome
novel latch
@agile egret How do you know that people re-created their own ocean version and sold it? Did you buy their marketplace items and compared them? π€
agile egret
People familiar with the ocean project gave dotcam copies to look at because they recognised his work. Dotcam found many parts were VERBATIM copies. Even his own comments were copied.
novel latch
oof
agile egret
Like how lazy can you be to pirate free work xD
I have a copy of one of those oceans and can personally confirm verbatim copies.
novel latch
THE NAME!
agile egret
OceanX
agile egret
I lost my copy of neOcean.
This is funny
He took down OceanX and OceanY when dotcam caught NeOcean
Only one page. It's all gold xD
The confusion, the "official reason" for taking down ocean x,y
Fun times
fathom wadi
agile egret
I kind of get it. I'm sure I'm over thinking it xD
fathom wadi
Fake confidence gets you far in life. I was a super shy person until I started to use fake confidence to get laid. Then I got my confidence for real. Ever since, I fear no-one.
well maybe my mum. She can hit you with a shoe at 40 yards.
novel latch
Weird, I got real confidence and never got laid π€
I should try some of that fake confidence
Weird silence...
novel latch
I tried to find that one :/
fathom wadi
monkey drum π
fathom wadi
I had a scroll through the monkey drum gifs and I found one with a guy in his jock wearing a monkey mask. Never again.
novel latch
I googled jock and I've never clicked on the back button of my mouse as fast as today π
rare sparrow
I can't wait for this https://twitter.com/HoussineMehnik/status/1282370684811988993
fathom wadi
Me too. I've been following him for years and when I saw he was doing this, I was like "awww shit man I should have done that"
also...
how cool is that?
north torrent
Does it have animinations?
Animations... I can't type...
What day of the week is it?
north torrent
Yes... that is my favorite day of the week.
north torrent
Wow, I have been off work for a whole week.
wet smelt
dangg
north torrent
I'm going to save that link for when I need it later.
wet smelt
aha
north torrent
I generally only have to work 9 or 10 months out of the year, as I am an elementary school teacher and only work when the small humans are in school.
But I generally travel to the United States during the summer and winter breaks.
But travel to the United States is banned, so this time I have a whole month and a half to just do whatever I want in my apartment. I've actually got a lot of stuff done so far, was up till 4am working on some concept art pieces for a game I am not even making yet...
I should probably put my energy into a more organized and productive plan though and not just start randomly working on things that are not essential to my project.
wet smelt
pain ;--;
north torrent
I finally have my apartment all set up though.
wet smelt
noicee
north torrent
I've got an actual paper calendar I am going to start filling out.
wet smelt
p lit to see someone organising their schedule
btw i already have the storyboards set up for my game
issue is
i wanna keep off any free models
but
substance designer and painter is p daunting
im gonna have to invest more time into this than i do in school if i want to make any visual progress
north torrent
Do you have experience doing 3d models?
north torrent
I would stay away from that with characters if I were you.
north torrent
Photogrammetry.
wet smelt
aha
lot of ppl told me its a big waste of time considering how easier it is to just model a rock
north torrent
The thing about characters is, the more realistic they look the better the animations need to be to not look 'creepy' and 'unnatural'.
For rocks I just go to Megascans... I'm not modeling a freaken rock in 2020... I did that back in 2008-2012 and it was just a waste of my time.
wet smelt
well megascans-epic games license tells you to not sell your game
fluid bloom
post your rawks
here's mine: https://i.imgur.com/9TxdjoN.png
100% proc gen in 3ds max
tiling texture
north torrent
But with characters I want to make sure they aren't too realistic looking, that way the fact that I don't have masterful animations doesn't look jarring. Simpler people means you can get away with a lot more in animations.
wet smelt
But with characters I want to make sure they aren't too realistic looking, that way the fact that I don't have masterful animations doesn't look jarring. Simpler people means you can get away with a lot more in animations.
@north torrent my plan is actually use the ue4 skeleton
but add cloth
north torrent
You can sell your game with Megascan assets if you are using Unreal Engine.
wet smelt
fr? i thought the tos said to not use it commerically
north torrent
If you are using Unity or something else, however, you need to pay for a subscription, which is still cheap relatively speaking.
wet smelt
post your rawks
@fluid bloom soon. soon enough.
well
i might incorporate some megascans
using textures and whatnot
but im still making my rocks XDDDDD
north torrent
You can use QixMix to quickly modify the textures to fit the style of your game. Great for place holders and minor assets.
For major assets I would eventually fine tune it more, but that can wait till you are further in the development process.
wet smelt
fair enough
well seems like ive found my alternative for substance designer
quixel is sooo cool for making free stuff for epic games devs
north torrent
It isn't as powerful as Substance Designer if your looking to specialize in making pretty assets, but for someone who is just an overall game designer trying to get a project done Qix Mix is sometimes the best choice overall.
north torrent
I have Qix Mix, Substance Designer, and Substance Painter all in my workflow.
Just depends on what I am working on.
north torrent
If I am just putting a pile of firewood behind a cottage and I don't want to be bothered with taking the time, I just grab an asset from Megascans and Qix Mix it to fit my style and am done with it.
I've got too many other things to do than to worry about some asset the player will never look at.
But for my more important stuff I go through the whole Zbrush to Substance process.
north torrent
It is pretty vague.
wet smelt
but seems like its gonna be something i could keep myself occupied with rather than playing gta
aight i hope i dont lose my mind trying to figure out stuff
must one make the story first, and work on the gameplay next, or just make the gameplay first, fine tune it, and put the story on top of it
north torrent
The parts of a game must come together as a team. You will need to have a general idea of your story and a general idea of your gameplay.
Then you can mature both ideas together, working with how one can play off the other. How can the game mechanics help tell your story? How can your story put meaning to the game mechanics?
north torrent
Games don't need a lot of story.
But you want to put context to your gameplay at least. Sometimes you can do that simply through environmental storytelling.
If the gameplay is taking item A to location B, and then you make item A look like a tank of gasoline and location B look like a gas station, then you make the rest of the map look like a vast Arizona desert... you have created a story and the player understands that it is important to supply the gas station with fuel.
abstract haven
anyone know which talk goes over the new foundation system?
foggy path
also where is that Blender plugin π€
tulip orbit
there were links to the github repo posted a few times yesterday, didnt save it for some reason
tulip wing
@foggy path https://github.com/EpicGames/BlenderTools
tulip orbit
is it something that has to be compiled?
tulip wing
Had to do a very quick compile to get the Python plugin working. Took like 10 minutes total?
With all the Blender set up as well
tulip orbit
Ah ok. I dont have a github account, and I rarely compile, so π¦
foggy path
hnngh
I kept getting this error when trying to log into my account earlier and now it's giving me this in the linking phase...
it can't be this hard to make a website Epic...
I have to log in from a private window for this to work :P
oh nice the github linking went into some kind of zombie state
says it's linked but it doesn't actually work :P
tulip wing
All going well then π
foggy path
it's almost as if epic hasn't got anyone in there who knows how to make websites
UE4 documentation forces itself in japanese for some reason for me on occasion as well
it makes no sense :P
tulip orbit
My set actor location node has decided to stop working, it also makes no sense
delicate lark
call the Make Sense node, it makes sense
tulip orbit
I changed other code yesterday, but this piece was unchanged, theres no reason for it to stop working.
the move char print string is printing a correct location
foggy path
Use object origin:
When active, this option will center each object at world origin before it is exported to an FBX, then it will move each object back to its original position.
Okay good it does the one thing I wanted it to do lol
Just a bit confusing how this is supposed to work with multiple meshes tbh
I guess I'll just have to try putting multiple meshes into the mesh collection and hope that it works...
I'm just wondering how the rig stuff is supposed to work with that because it seems to just assume that 1 mesh is 1 rig
not using rigs atm anyway so I guess it doesn't really matter as long as it works with meshes
tulip wing
Multiple meshes works fine @foggy path , just add both to the collection and it sends them both over. Very quickly tested that then edited the bigger one, the changes were updated π
foggy path
Nice :)
zinc matrix
guys
north torrent
Does anyone want to read the lyrics to the tavern drinking song I wrote for my game?
zinc matrix
why does bridge work despite not allowing communication on private networks? I am at home.
foggy path
It depends on how your network is being categorized by Windows
for example, my home network is being categorized as a public network for some reason, and I never bothered to fix it lol
it's in the windows firewall settings if you want to check
foggy path
lol
strong kindle
mint onyx
Great little bit of insight from the Unreal Fest Q&A for those of you considering a new PC
AMD Ryzen or Threadripper will improve our BUILD time..is this correct?
@bronze axle A single 3990X outperforms our entire build farm lol
our build farm is limited by network and some ridiculous IncrediBuild license restriction that limits the number of cores can be used on each machine
3990X is able to compile Dev-Rendering in 438secs
From our WFH experience I would say at least a 3950x is required if you are doing serious UE development which involves engine modification, if you don't have a build farm π
bronze axle
Wow, thatβs impressive! I keep hearing great things about Ryder and Threadripper for UE development.
Iβve been looking at a 3950X for my next workstation build.
quiet narwhal
...... 3990x.....
bronze axle
Looking at the benchmarks and reviews, the value seems very high. ~$700 for 32 threads with 105W TDP.
quiet narwhal
so much drool
I can say I am very happy with my 3950x, using air cooler and no overclocking it's very quiet and very fast ~4.1 on all cores when doing a compile with no tweaking
and 0 issues with games
bronze axle
Iβm looking at TR chips too, but Iβm questioning whether theyβre worth it for me vs the 3950X.
quiet narwhal
I had that decision and I went with the 3950x. I figured I can wait for the next gen TR chips if I want to spend way too much money on something. Its too close to the next gen chips to make that large a commitment
I only had to buy the chip as i had a 2700x and all my old components works, just dropped in the new chip
bronze axle
Nice.
quiet narwhal
its about 15 minutes for master branch compile, and shaders compile faster than I can read the numbers lol
bronze axle
I may wait until the first UE5 preview drops to finalize my build so I can get a rough idea of itβs requirements.
quiet narwhal
noise was the big one for me tho since I record I really really reaaaaaaaaally want quiet
my upper case fans, came with the case, are the noisest part now and I have some noctua on order to fix that lol
bronze axle
Iβm going for a quiet airflow build, too.
quiet narwhal
its doable. 2x noctua 120 intake, going to a noctua dh15 dual fan on the chip, noctua 140 exhaust. Just got to replace the top 2 with 2 more 120 noctua and I think it will be a very quiet whisper. I can turn it on silent and as long as I dont do anything stupid It stays under 70 most of the time just due to natural heat soak
gilded lichen
Niagara is a replacement for the old particle system and the old particle system will be removed!?
quiet narwhal
@gilded lichen it's an upgrade, and likely cascade will not be removed from 4 but will be removed in 5
mint onyx
for 3990X your budget really needs to go high, as according to my tests 256GB RAM is required
quiet narwhal
^^ thats the other kicker with the high end TR, memory requirements
bronze axle
Oh really? Thatβs interesting because I hear Noctuas can be loud. Iβve been looking at be quiet Silent Wings 3 for comparison.
mint onyx
otherwise if you go on full 128 threads you'll quickly OOM during UE starting up because of multithreaded texture building
similar to compilations
gilded lichen
@quiet narwhal π€ hello, are you THE Mathew Wadstein, who created MVP video series?
quiet narwhal
the noctuas usually get the highest recommendations and in my experience I never have an issue but there are definitely other options out there. Mainly need to figure out the right size then the CFM@speed for what you need to move your air
@gilded lichen yarp
gilded lichen
@quiet narwhal nice, I begun learning ue4 with your MVP series and just got to particles episode. Nice work.
fathom wadi
neon crystal
i am new and i have a question
How do i make a shortcut to my project on my desktop?
tranquil sonnet
Right click the project in the epic launcher
mint onyx
didnt know our launcher has such a func π€
fathom wadi
you can shortcut from the .uproject file or use the UE4Editor.exe directly with arguments
tulip orbit
My savegame/savegame functions are currently in my gamemode.... but I'm thinking it'd be better to move it to the game instance.....
will be a lot of work tho...
foggy path
I think I had to put it into the instance for some reason
Trying to remember why...
may have been a race condition or the ability to have a "loading" flag or something...
tulip orbit
Theres a fair bit of map changes, and theres some variables that need to be stored in the instance, I think if I change it it'll remove a lot of cross-referencing
foggy path
yeah that's why I added savegames pretty early because I figured it was gonna have all kinds of fun surprises along the way
less game implemented less changes needed to fix the fun surprises :P
tulip orbit
I implemented early too, but I feel like I put it in the wrong spot π¦
foggy path
out of curiosity are you using just "raw" UE saves or a plugin?
tulip orbit
raw
foggy path
did you run into any limitations with being able to save while paused?
tulip orbit
I dont have a pause in my game. so not yet π
foggy path
ah :D
yeah I'm using EasyMultiSave and it seems it's just not possible to save while the game is paused which is kind of a pain
so when you save the game always unpauses for like one frame to do the save :P
tulip orbit
heh
foggy path
it sounded like it might be an engine limitation and not some weird design decision in EMS but wasn't 100% sure
tulip orbit
My problems have been mainly the spaghetti of getting/setting all the variables, and not letting the rest of the game go until its done saving/loading
foggy path
yeah that was a bit problematic as well
I was using a lot of initialization just off BeginPlay which just caused a bunch of race conditions when loading especially with pawns that used AI controllers
both the pawn and the controller would load some state and that had to be correctly synchronized before the AI controller could actually start executing the BT etc.
tulip orbit
yeah my player character has an Init function, which I'm now calling from the load game function, but I think Iv'e got some older code in there doing something too
tulip orbit
π±
zinc matrix
this song is lit
perfect fit to my space MMO
EAEAEAEAEAEAEAE
@tulip orbit
yOU scared of uncertainty that space brings
tulip orbit
I'm scared of nothing!
zinc matrix
you scared
of female alien humanoidzz
EAEAE
or r they genderless?
you know i can tell u we will all die before making a contact with humanoid alien
or even any alien thats not a fish/living in water ugly thing
Trust me, even if there are smart or humanoid aliens in this timeline, theyre 99999999999999yrs away from here
tulip orbit
the only thing I'm remotely afraid of is the spaghetti that is my save/load system π¬
I've gotta head out for a few hours now tho π¦
foggy path
just go to the mexican border and I'm sure you'll make contact with a humanoid alien 
or is there a great wall there now stopping it? I'm not up to date on my wall news feed
north torrent
The Great Wall didn't stop Genghis Khan from taking over China.
zinc matrix
just go to the mexican border and I'm sure you'll make contact with a humanoid alien :zomgmoFace:
that was racist af bro
IT WAS NOT NICE
north torrent
I don't remember anyone asking you.
zinc matrix
i dont remember u ever completing any game on ur own
north torrent
I've completed proof of concept prototypes just like you have.
north torrent
I do not in fact have any games that are for sale, but neither do you or most of the people here.
north torrent
Go make that money, I'm not stopping you.
north torrent
How much money did you make from those 30 people?
north torrent
Very true. But Rome was also not bragging the first day.
rigid shoal
Mao, will Corona get worse in the winter?
Also, what did you think of Star Citizen?
zinc matrix
ULTRA COPEPE
north torrent
In the US I don't see the corona virus getting any better until January 20th.
rigid shoal
Maybe won't get better, but it could get worse. π
foggy path
I honestly can't tell if John is actually trying to make a successful game or not :p
north torrent
In China and most of Asia and the world I have a little faith in their ability to track the virus and quarantine cases.
As far as Star Citizen, if you like flight simulator type games and sci-fi it is pretty fun. It is completely an alpha game in every sense of the word, so going in expecting a finished game would be a huge disappointment.
It crashes all the time and that makes it hard to make in game cash, because you lose your deliveries and such.
It is full of overly complex mechanics with bad user interfaces and nothing really explaining to you how it works. You have to hope someone else playing the game is willing to explain it to you. Sometimes your ship will glitch and you have to hitchhike to another planet and summon your ship there...
So it is a mess, but a fun mess, and when it works flying the ships is fun. It can be relaxing or you can go have some pretty crazy dogfights and then blow up.
But if you don't appreciate the work in progress state of games, then stay away.
rigid shoal
Sounds worse than I thought.
But damn, I'm trying to find a graph of the infection rates of Corona and of previous pandemics. Basically it flares up in the colder seasons. Can't find it now, Google sucks.
north torrent
The thing I worry about going forward is that a lot of the current player base seem to like the super high learning curve of the game. Obviously the menus are not final, so it is hard for me to know if the developers are going to make it less difficult to play in the future, or if they intend for it to be a closed off game that is only accessible to the super hardcore...
I am not trying to say it is like that, I am just saying that I personally can't tell one way or the other at this point.
But I don't regret spending $45 usd to play the game. I don't plan on giving them any more money though.
I think the key to controlling the spread of corona-virus is technology.
My school for example, opened up on June 2nd and we had school until July 3rd when the school year ended.
We had no cases of corona-virus. Nobody had to get quarantined.
One of the keys to that was that we had to check the tracking app for every student every day. One student had a fever and had to stay home. He got a corona-virus test that came back negative so he could come back to school and I didn't get quarantined. If he had been positive me and the other 16 students would have been quarantined.
rigid shoal
Yeah, lol, that's not gonna happen in the US.
north torrent
One of my students who was perfectly healthy has a dad who was perfectly healthy. His dad had a business meeting with a man who was perfectly healthy.
However that man his dad had a business meeting with had been in Beijing. Beijing had 100 cases pop up in the span of a weak, so they freaked out. My student could not come to school for 14 days because his dad talked to a man who had been in Beijing within 14 days.
The technology knew this and stopped him from coming to school.
Overkill... certainly... but it allows the other 16 kids to return to school, which means 16 sets of parents can concentrate on their work.
rigid shoal
It's weird how China cares so much about this while the US doesn't.
foggy path
They seem to understand the repercussions of it better
and there's no politicians fucking it up because what the bossman says goes lol
pearl elk
China has dealt with this sort of thing more than the US and also big pharma
Big pharma will profit heaps off medications for it so its actually in their best interest for as many people to get infected as possible
ahh capitalism π
north torrent
So if I have a student who throws a book at another student, so I make him go stand in the corner for 5 minutes.
If he is laughing and playing in that corner, then what am I going to do? I am going to send him back for another 5 minutes.
If he is quiet for those 5 minutes he can come out.
The United States is going to be that child who was laughing and playing during time out. They will have to go back to that corner for time out again, they will once again not take it seriously, and they will get sent back for a 3rd and 4th quarantine.
This is what happens when a nation has no leadership. No leadership from the federal level, most governors are trying to pass all responsibility back up to the federal level or down to the local level.
foggy path
Oh they have leadership - the leadership is just filled with morons
Isn't Trump basically saying "open up or else"
rigid shoal
Yeah, but almost the entire US economy is getting screwed. So, I doubt the US is purposely playing into the hands of Big Pharma.
pearl elk
Trump was wearing a mask on the weekend π
pearl elk
It had a presidential seal on it lol
north torrent
China wants to have a strong economy again as soon as possible. They are willing to take the sacrifice or force people to take the sacrifice to get the spread down as quick as possible and keep it under control so that it doesn't affect their money again.
They don't do it because they are nice. They do it because it is the smart financial decision. Lock down once, lock down extreme, get back to work.
They don't want things to stretch on and on and on with uncertainty.
rigid shoal
Wait, why would you want GSK?
MRNA in particular, is getting the mega pump.
pearl elk
The issues with the economy arnt caused by the virus though lets get that out of the way. The issues are caused by this idea that the economy has to constantly grow and move forward at all costs
foggy path
GSK manufactures a lot of the chemicals used in vaccines
north torrent
tRump passed the authority for schools to open up to the State governors. He has thinly vailed threats to open the schools back up, but tRump has not taken any strong stances in one direction or the other.
rigid shoal
I think the Corona thing has actually been absolutely destroying the economy. Like, a lot of people and small businesses would have faced evictions and bankruptcies.
pearl elk
Shutting down the economy only loses money cause we dont know any other way, sure you gotta pay rents but your other running costs almost disappear. Issue there is big business borrows against things to keep operating, if they arnt operating they cant pay back debts so maybe... We shouldnt operate the economy in persistent debt π
north torrent
tRump will talk big on Twitter but at pretty much every step of the corona-virus he has passed the authority down to the State level.
foggy path
yeah it's pretty bizarre a lot of companies went under in like a month..
and supposedly these were companies with good and stable finances?
rigid shoal
I don't know, it's not just debts. Rent isn't debt, and that will destroy a lot of businesses.
pearl elk
Also businesses even small business try to minimise profits to reduce tax burden leaving them with no money incase stuff like this happens.
north torrent
Well, that's a deeper seeded problem with low profit margins and a US system that is rigged for the big companies. But that's a topic for another day.
pearl elk
Rents in the retail space have been killing off heaps of businesses here well before corona
But the reason those rents are so high is because the owners need to pay their debts π
foggy path
Yeah it seems here they'd rather have a big fucking building in the middle of downtown be empty than reduce the rent for the shopping mall that used to occupy it
rigid shoal
Not to be picky, but those land owners may not have any debt.
north torrent
Back in my hometown there were empty building and closed down small businesses everywhere before the corona-virus.
I have been worried about the economy there for a long time... yet it is actually ranked pretty good economically.
pearl elk
For example look at JC Penny, Shears etc, this stuff has been going on for ages. Corona certainly took out a few on the bottom rung but they wernt doing so well to begin with. Here Myers was doing poorly for ages but on the other hand a business lik JB Hifi just took off in the retail space. Victoria Secret is pretty much a bust now too, pun intentional π
rigid shoal
I didn't know what GSK was, but their stock hasn't done well recently for something that should benefit from Corona. So, π€·.
foggy path
Yeah I haven't looked at how they've been performing but seems like they should be doing better as a manufacturer of those sortsa things π€
north torrent
Amazon will eventually eat the United States from the inside out.
pearl elk
I follow this group called Dead Mall Enthusiasts there is so much construction of these retail spaces that end up empty. The construction industry does fine, ask Trump π
north torrent
China has some great dead malls.
pearl elk
Its like banks who lend to people they know cant pay the money back, lets build this big mall and watch em try to pay it back muahahaha
north torrent
The biggest mall ever built is in China and it is dead...
foggy path
I saw an interesting comment about Amazon recently
He was suggesting that Amazon might be using the AmazonBasics stuff and such as an "antitrust magnet" of sorts
people only focus on those and let them get away with all the other shifty stuff they do
north torrent
Teddy Roosevelt needs to rise again and save us...
rigid shoal
I think it's totally possible for a competitor to Amazon to come along.
Shopify, Walmart, etc.
north torrent
Do you really want a world where only Amazon and Walmart can compete and there are no local electronics stores or mom and pop local stores?
Wait... this is Mr. Floss, of course you would because blah blah blah something 401k blah blah blah so it is justified.
foggy path
Economics of scale is hard to defeat I suspect π€
pearl elk
Here Woolworths tried to go up against Bunnings, built all these massive sheds and now theyre mostly empty
foggy path
even here where we have less people in general pretty much all of the small computer shops went out of business a while ago
pearl elk
I thought they would be cool for VR amusement parks but I doubt I can afford em π
north torrent
Have you ever heard about the time Teddy Roosevelt took on JP Morgan?
pearl elk
rigid shoal
Shenzhen had quite a lot of VR places. Like, more immersive stuff than just putting on a headset too.
pearl elk
These have been sitting around waiting to be occupied during the apocalypse π
north torrent
I don't come from a small town, Mr. Zomg. I come from freaken Phoenix... one of the fastest growing metropolitan areas in the United States... You would think in that kind of city an electronics store could stay open... but no, I have to get my parts from Amazon.
foggy path
the government here was selling an old 60s era storage bunker for 30 grand
north torrent
That is what pretty much every other building in the United States looks like, Mr. Olympus... I can't understand why nobody sees the massive problem...
foggy path
Yeah I mean the operating costs are smaller here than in a lot of places and there's less competition in general, so you'd think smaller shops would do better
north torrent
Well, if businesses can't survive in big cities or small town we should all just submit to our overlord Jeff Bezzo.
rigid shoal
I don't know. Could be cool. Lots of things can't be delivered over the internet. There'll just be more of those.
north torrent
So you want to have kids in a world where their best possible future is working for Amazon?
Wait... I'll answer for you... blah blah blah 401k blah blah so it is ok
pearl elk
@north torrent yeah its like all of a sudden Corona is the problem but retail here has been struggling for decades. Our main street here in town was half empty and a big mall up the road is looking to be dead soon. Some end up as office space like call centres but those arnt long lived.
rigid shoal
Maybe more kids will be able to start up a local shop.
north torrent
It is simply a matter of if you force everyone to live on the very edge of the fence on a sunny day, then when the wind and the rain come (corona) they are all going to topple over.
rigid shoal
But the government and the Fed kind of saved some of those businesses.
north torrent
It is irresponsible to spend spend spend until you have just enough left to survive on a sunny day. But that's how corporations operate, so the second anything bad happens they go crying to the socialists in Congress for a bailout.
But because the big businesses like Amazon and Walmart can get away with murder, the small businesses just trying to stay open have to operate at margins way lower than is healthy for the economy.
rigid shoal
no
north torrent
Outside the lounge is more for asking questions and answering questions.
proven thorn
@north torrent The other problem is that the bigger businesses have leverage that will move statistics enough for them to care about.
north torrent
Most of it comes down to Corporate Stock Buybacks, but I am not going into that subject today.
proven thorn
i.e, if an airline goes bust, that's going to be 30K people out of jobs, but if small businesses go bust, that might be a few hundred / thousand.
north torrent
I just want to build a robot Teddy Roosevelt to save us all.
proven thorn
So the airline is going to get the bailout because it prevents statistics from going crazy.
north torrent
Those airlines however had record profits year after year, they just took all the money and bought back their own stocks. This is why they can't afford to stay open. It is their own fault and the government will not put oversight in place to stop it.
proven thorn
Also the air line probably is friends with said people that can actually make those bailouts to occur.
Yes, I agree with what you're saying.
pearl elk
Yeah that kinda sucks, Im glad the cruise companies arnt getting a bailout from the US because their businesses are registered overseas
rigid shoal
Carnival got a $1B loan or investment from Saudi. Which, depending on how you interpret it, is from the US.
proven thorn
Our own airline, Air New Zealand did exactly the same thing. They were making record profits and decided to buy their own stocks back which looks great to share holders and the top executives get a nice healthy bonus.
Fortunately, ANZ only got a loan and not a bail out.
rigid shoal
America doesn't do bailouts either, I don't think. It's all loans.
And usually those are bad for shareholders.
north torrent
Corporate Stock Buybacks are THE problem with the system. Getting rid of them would single handedly fix over 60% of the problems in the United States.
pearl elk
Damnnit, why are we bailing out these companies which should have plenty of back up cash if they wernt so obsessed with lowering their tax burden.
proven thorn
@rigid shoal They were definitely bail outs. Because there's no requirements to pay them back.
rigid shoal
The ones to airlines?
pearl elk
Funny how all this free market stuff goes out the window when people need a bailout
north torrent
The United States is completely socialist for corporations.
rigid shoal
I really doubt there was no requirement to pay them back. They may have been low interest, but they certainly came with somewhat unfavorable contingencies.
proven thorn
@north torrent They were out lawed at one point in the states. I forgot which presidency got rid of the law, as the exact thing happened in the past.
rigid shoal
Like Boeing was making a big deal about NOT accepting them.
The government practically begged them to accept it. Which, I don't know the result of.
north torrent
Ronald Reagan was the one who made Stock Buyback legal. They were illegal for most of US history.
foggy path
Boeing desperately needing that positive media attention
pearl elk
Im still salty at Boeing over McDonnell Douglas
They were already having a rough time with the 747 Max, squeezing every last inch out of passenger planes doesnt seem like the best idea now does it π
Maybe if Boeing had beat out the X-35 theyd have a nice cushion of money to sit on
fathom wadi
Now I have this in my head from reading McDonnell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF4azs25kUw
pearl elk
Imagine if all 747s were also a Mc Donalds π
north torrent
I haven't had McDonalds in a long time.
fathom wadi
they should be
I haven't either. Its not real food
Speaking of unreal things. It's mine and my wife's 8 year anniversary today. Without her I wouldn't be an Unreal Developer now. She gave me carte blanche to go freelance and do my own thing. No stress, no hassle, no "get a real job". She's the fucking best.
rigid shoal
McDonald's is surprisingly disgusting. I have no idea how people want that trash.
pearl elk
I left my wife for UE4
north torrent
Honestly, when I really think about what 'real' food is made out of, I am not sure that the 'fake' food is any more or less gross than the real stuff...
Eating the skin, fascia, and muscles of a chicken? Is that really 'not gross'?
Maybe life in general is just gross... I just try to roll with it.
rigid shoal
It's just that the McDonald's meat is extra low-quality even amongst the other fast food places.
fathom wadi
they say 100% beef patte in their burgers but its a deception. There is 100% beef in them. Surrounded by all the chafe and crap they bulk it with to stick.
pearl elk
They do angus burgers here, bit better than their regular burgers. Every time they do something new and good though it gets watered down over time
The original gourmet menu was great but its slowly gotten more like the regular menu
fathom wadi
yeah I used to get angus burgers when they were released and they have an aftertaste you can't shift for a while. Last time I had one it didn't even taste like an Angus burger. More like a salty flavoured version
zinc matrix
i am at another spectrum of boredom
pearl elk
You know what they say, only boring people get bored
rugged storm
fathom wadi
@pearl elk I bet you any money Nelson Mandela got bored in his cell. Not a boring guy by any means :p Speaking of which, it's his birthday in 3 days.
pearl elk
Got so bored in prison he planned to become president π
Hitler wrote Mein Kampf in prison too
and ofcoarse how can we forget 6ix9ine's upcoming masterpiece, filmed while in home detention lol
fathom wadi
Sn1tch9ine more like :p
zinc matrix
drug9ine
fathom wadi
could use this for UE4 now we have control rig in
I guess you can use blender direct as usual, especially in alignment with the new tools, but with weight painting in engine in reference to Control Rig, would open up some crazy options for dynamic characters
pearl elk
I made a game, took me alittle over 2 weeks π
fathom wadi
@zinc matrix thats Rigify not control rig. Different beasts. No idea about that message either.
technically though, with the new tools, you could say control rig is a layer on top of this to add certain features at runtime or for anim export.
fathom wadi
yeah they do suck
Blender is absolutely gorgeous for rig building. You don't need bone to bone parity at all. You can put bones anywhere and link them. My first habit with a humanoid is to always make a skeleton as one complete flow with bones, because I still have old school techniques in my bag, but its completely moot in context now. You just plop a bone down, link it, gg.
the only thing that bothers me about it is the weight painting. You are supposed to be able to set x-ray mode on, check the box to weight by distance (or whatever it is) and paint one side of a cylinder, and it will weight the other side appropriately. But often it misses a vert, or just doesn't paint the other side everytime. So you feel like you are fighting with it. Then when you think you have it all done and right, you import to UE4 and realise theres a floating vert with no weight. So you end up doing the import/export shuffle. Which should be less now with the new tools.
In other news.
Bill Gates and Elon Musk just got their Twitters hacked.
hardy yacht
Following Twitter Accounts have been hacked - be careful donβt fall for any giveaway Scams.
- Bill Gates
- Elon Musk
- Kayne West
- Bitcoin
- Apple
- Coinbase
- BINANCE
- CZ_Binance
- Gemini
- Kucoin
- Gate .io
- Coindesk
- Uber
- Tron
- Justin Sun
- Charlee Lee
probably more
zinc matrix
eaeae
bill gates ben hacked
creator of tech world
got hacked
by people and devices
he created !!11111
plucky pagoda
I take back every positive thing I've ever said about Ohio's governor and defecate on the memory.
fathom wadi
it's a major kick in the face for Twitter. The speed at which these accounts all went into hackmode together means they either used a botnet to dictionary hack the accounts at the same time, or the security is literally just not there at all.
plucky pagoda
"We're a month behind Florida, but it doesn't matter what I order people will do whatever, so I'm asking you to be responsible"
That's the cliff notes of his address to the state today
pearl elk
Twitters never really been great at security though, every month theres atleast 1 high profile account which cops it
fathom wadi
1 account with a brute force I can see. This many? That's one or the other of the things I said. If it was that bad we should see more tho.
pearl elk
They would have been lining this up for awhile Id say, picking their moment
plucky pagoda
Phishing has been upping the game lately. Even being well informed it's getting harder to spot some of them
pearl elk
Thing is if you have the computers to mine crypto you surely have enough to brute force attack many accounts
fathom wadi
yeah considering the natural average of real words in most passwords, its only a matter of processing vs time.
plucky pagoda
Passwords are slowly going away. You really need to use randomly generated unique passwords and at least some form of 2fa anymore.
Probably some kid with a txt file of the top 100 most common passwords.
rigid shoal
The scammer made $93k+ from that scam.
How and why people trusted those "donate BTC to this account to double your money" tweets... they deserve it.
zinc matrix
duck... I really need to chip out some money for YubiKey
Idk looks weird
Finger fun
Konki
Kkkk
Ye
But its copeing
Figuring out
Nice, there will be Bio version soon
fathom wadi
I thought we would be using one-time-pad encryption for stuff by now but you never see anything about it
foggy path
it's weird how long it's taking for something like this to be adapted
I've had a YubiKey for probably close to 10 years by now π€
and I remember folks had to use an RSA key generator dongle when I was working at Nokia just to sign into one of the subcontractor intranets...
and this was also like 10 years ago
pearl elk
I dont use my banks internet banking system cuz its so secure I can barely ever login lol
foggy path
yeah I remember one of the banks here used to require a Java applet to log into their netbank
it didn't work at all on anything except windows..
this was also in the 2010s so it wasn't like in 1997 or anything so it was pretty crazy :D
fathom wadi
heheh shame I can't tweet now
https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/en-US/product/meadow-environment-set
This is free this month (I know, I'm late to the party this month) but oh my god it's freaking beautiful
good month for free content.
im using that meadow in my game though. No doubt.
fathom wadi
Im onto MethTree now
fathom wadi
@wet smelt there is a free option. You can use procedural binary space style branching to create your own. But I would put the value of that down to way more than the cost of speedtree tbh
wet smelt
but thing is does the blender tree addon work in ue4
@wet smelt there is a free option. You can use procedural binary space style branching to create your own. But I would put the value of that down to way more than the cost of speedtree tbh
@fathom wadi aha
but thing is does the blender tree addon work in ue4
@wet smelt like, wont it glitch out or something
fathom wadi
nothing in blender works in UE4. It's Blender. You have to export from Blender so yeah
wet smelt
aha so i have to import it to fbx and the such right
fathom wadi
yeah fbx is the usual go between format
wet smelt
do the textures carry over tho
fathom wadi
basic ones do. no shader instructions tho as it uses open shader language and not HLSL
@zinc matrix does it work on non-skeletal meshes?
I though it was just for rigify
crazy. Well I never had a problem exporting meshes in fbx from blender anyhow. Just skeletons and rigs.
I did a basic human and UE doesn't even wanna know. It seems to clamp some bones like they have no position
specifically in this case, the collarbones won't reach across, they just stay at the point on the spine they are linked with. Drives me nuts tbh
anyway new era... using the tools now
fathom wadi
Twitter
same thing Tump supporters said before they went to the ballots π
the death part was on the nose
still cant post on twitter. I mean, they know it wasn't me wtf
its horrible
I am a cathair away from switching it off again
foggy path
You follow the wrong accounts
fathom wadi
I mean, its a bubble. Lots going on inside but its almost irrelevant outside by scale. So there is no point to it aside from having a pot to stir. There was much better ways to get the benefits of twitter without the recourse. Like I used to go check out unreal stuff on the forums. Now I do it on Twitter and Facebook. Which means I have to take a punch in the face before I'm allowed to see the good stuff
foggy path
my timeline has boomer shooter memes, level design jokes, pictures from old quake maps
I'd say it's p good
:D
fathom wadi
@foggy path I follow many good people. It's the offshoots, the entangled tweets and the game dev politics that makes it shit
foggy path
ya you just gotta stop following the people who tweet that shit
fathom wadi
I can't. They are the community im in
foggy path
if you don't remember the last time someone posted something you liked then just unfollow
of course you can unfollow them
who says you have to follow every moron who likes game dev
:P
@zinc matrix yeah it's easy to get baited into that
but I just started unfollowing people who post that stuff and it's so much better now
fathom wadi
no really. Im not saying they are morons. It's the tension, the beefs, the flippant comments that get turned around and misconstrued. Like the most upsetting thing to me is when people I respect, from the community, block me and talk about me behind my back like im some racist xenophobic arsehole when Im completely the oppsite
well the arsehole bit might stand but the other two...
foggy path
So why do you have to follow those people?
fathom wadi
peer respect
foggy path
Even if they aren't morons, if they post stuff you don't like... unfollow
Respect? It's social media
:P
fathom wadi
the multitude of excellent work and motivation I get from seeing other people's stuff helps my own path. But the negative outweighs it on twitter
foggy path
You could mute them I guess if you want to keep following them for some reason
fathom wadi
I mean we dont get that level of negativity here
foggy path
Muting keywords also helps but haven't used that myself
plucky pagoda
yeah, every now then his humor is spot on with those tweets and that pack has me wanting to say f#$k it and start making an open world survival game
fathom wadi
I tried that. Had Trump, liberal, conservative and a bunch of other stuff blocked but it gets through anyway
foggy path
well I guess you gotta choose
do you want to not get any of the good bits, or do you want to unfollow these "respectful" people who tweet that stuff
foggy path
twitter is not good for nuance
the format just doesn't work for nuance when you can barely fit three words into a tweet lol
plucky pagoda
and people are morons
fathom wadi
its not my kind of place really. Too few characters to express one's self is never a good idea for a format of language exchange
foggy path
I dunno I see all sorts of interesting stuff there
plucky pagoda
I hate it but for some reason even with my ridiculously low use of it and barely any presence I get a lot of traffic from it.
foggy path
@dosnostalgic in particular often tweets interesting stuff
fathom wadi
I do too. Im not drowning in 100% neg. I love some people's posts. And some people are really respectful.
John Carmack's posts are always interesting as I get a lexicon of computing out of my drawer and look up wtf he just said.
plucky pagoda
I'm about to make a cannibal survival game like the forest should have been. All those humans are your resources
make that flesh skull palace
foggy path
lol
plucky pagoda
I mean how are you going to have a survival builder with cannibals and not have human flesh walls or something
fathom wadi
You know what I would love to see. A licensable archive of all old Hollywood studio CGI assets from major movies. From Westworld to present. So I could do cool stuff like take the Gul'Dan model from the Warcraft movie and put him in UE4
plucky pagoda
I'm just now at the point I have the technical knowledge to do it.
foggy path
Procedurally you say https://twitter.com/NoMansSky/status/1282672732057088002
fathom wadi
@plucky pagoda im thinking of a nice streaming level setup with tiles of those meadow assets made to work the same way they described level streaming in Fortnite. Go full matrix on it (because my current game uses a matrix of level streaming too)
@zinc matrix that ain't natural. MIne bends to the right :p
plucky pagoda
I've been experimenting with using HISMs
plucky pagoda
For custom foliage that can be interacted with.
foggy path
something I was prototyping was sort of space based survival thing where you'd have to salvage parts from spaceships
which still seems like a potentially fun concept but it's just ridiculously complicated and I have no idea how to actually make it interesting in terms of gameplay lol
plucky pagoda
The fact that they can be culled, use LODs and something else that I'm forgetting makes them fairly powerful
fathom wadi
yeah seen that done before. Figured it was a nice way to hit that foliage collision. But I've seen Ubisoft do it another way with shaders and inputting character location relative to the foliage, then applying the movement to the foliage
plucky pagoda
You can get the index from the collision event and act on it. If you use a custom BP with a few different HISMs you can do a lot.
You can remove, add instances or add effects. Replace one instance with an actor, replace that actor with an instance...
It solves the last big hurdle I had in trying to figure out how to do that kind of game.
fathom wadi
I was looking for a chart I saw for ISM and HISM the other day that was super useful. But when I googled it, Jan took over google and usurped my results !
plucky pagoda
I switched to UE to make a game I had in mind from playing things like Subnautica, Emperyion, The Forest ect...
fathom wadi
plucky pagoda
sure make me type all that in by posting a pic
fathom wadi
saw them that year with my wife. Bought her tickets as a present in return for a ticket to see The Wall
foggy path
the one thing that I think current set of those sorts of survival games are lacking is long term stuff
7 Days to Die is the one I've enjoyed most recently, but even that gets to a point where you're just.. what do I do now?
fathom wadi
@plucky pagoda heheh it wasnt the chart I was looking for. Ill dig it out it was cool
plucky pagoda
i haven't played that one since it's early days.
foggy path
it was like that with The Forest too, we were just farting around building a big base at the end and it just got kinda boring :D
plucky pagoda
Oh, that's interesting. Not something I need right now, but really good to know. Getting that in the material
foggy path
yeah I mean I think base building is a good feature in those sorts of games
but at the endgame you kinda just aren't doing anything but farting around because the survival mechanics are no longer really challenging you in any way
and that then gets boring eventually
plucky pagoda
Oh hell, I could use that to shade trees with snow or something at certain altitudes
if this vertex on the leaf is at a z greater than this add snow
fathom wadi
I cant find that chart. Now Im sad that its there and I can't look it up
foggy path
π€
plucky pagoda
You just slice it up.
foggy path
all I know is marching cubes but I don't think that's it
fathom wadi
@zinc matrix theres a few decent tutorials on cutting meshes now
plucky pagoda
you can do it with mesh , the material, and otehr ways
fathom wadi
Mordentral had one in his VR expansion plugin that was cool
foggy path
this is the kinda thing I'd just do as easily as possible and then worry about it later lol
eg. never and then my game would be notorious for having bad fps like all survival games
this is the kind of stuff I follow on twitter
lol
you just don't get high level shitposts like these on any other medium
what do you mean
you don't want to see stuff like this? https://twitter.com/GetGianni/status/1283460777282854915
Twitter
damn.
plucky pagoda
You could use a destructible mesh and apply point damage
You'll have to tweak the damage spread and materials to get to look decent. I think it might be over kill. I'd probably just use a horizontal slice and make that destructible or break it up into rough wedges
zinc matrix
Konkki
Y u no sleep at night
Konki
U murrika?
Tru
I no like nights
I mean the concept is ok
I often remiscsence about life when woke up by computer fan at 4am
foggy path
I don't understand people who fall asleep at random locations like at their computer or watching TV
how can you do that, is there something wrong with you
lol
it sounds dangerously like narcolepsy or something!
plucky pagoda
bronze axle
That sock looks so sad.
plucky pagoda
Trauma
plucky pagoda
Yeah crazy hot here. AC barely keeping up
Doing a lot remodeling of the house. Put in a new patio door, garage door and a bunch of new cabinets.
doing some life maintenance and working out where to focus dev energies.
bronze axle
Wow, busy times.
plucky pagoda
Yeah, Idk. I think I had Covid in March and I've had a hard time focusing since
My work on games just went to a standstill. but a lot going on too
bronze axle
You're not sure? Did you get tested for antibodies?
plucky pagoda
No. At the time the only tests available were too inaccurate to rely on.
but my whole house was crazy sick and the symptoms all match up
bronze axle
Damn, that sucks.
plucky pagoda
idk, seem to be getting better.
bronze axle
I would hope so. It's July!
plucky pagoda
Yeah, I was still rough a month ago
bronze axle
Ouch.
Well I'm glad to hear you and your family are recovering. I know it's a little scary because there are still lingering questions about long-term damage.
plucky pagoda
yeah, thanks. I try not to talk about it too much. I'm use to getting a lot done in a day and it seems like I'm getting back up to speed
bronze axle
Good to hear. π
I'm a workaholic. I don't take enough breaks. My top goal this year is better health, fitness, and balance.
plucky pagoda
Yeah same.
Trying to plan ahead more and spend more time setting up the things I need for the week so there's more balance.
Trying to plan out my dev time ahead of sitting down to make it more efficient and have more time for family. It's actually nice to be familiar enough with the engine now to be able to do that with just a notebook and a pen.
bronze axle
Nice. I still love my spiral notebooks, honestly.
I have stacks of them from years of design notes and random ideas.
plucky pagoda
Same. a friend of mine is a prolific novelists and he writes his outlines long hand in spiral notebooks. I started doing the same and when i started getting back into dev it carried over. I use spiral graph paper notebooks for designs and concepting
plucky pagoda
I buy them in bulk every year when they go on sale after schools start
bronze axle
Best time to do it. π
Man, I am still reeling from Unreal Fest Online. I'm compiling all the UE 4.26 & 5.0 info in a blog post, and there's so much.
plucky pagoda
I missed most of it. I had too much going on to sit down. Logged in though,I think it's still available
bronze axle
Some of the most intriguing stuff coming in UE5 was totally left field and briefly mentioned.
plucky pagoda
Notebooks work until someone spills something all over it
bronze axle
Agh, the dreaded spill.
Losing old notes to a spill sucks.
Happened to me many times.
Fun fact: apparently a full sync of Fortnite is over 300GB.
That is a large project.
plucky pagoda
lot of assets
bronze axle
Yeah.
I just got to the part where they talk about a new asset virtualization system they're working on for UE5.
plucky pagoda
i wonder if I went to the wrong page. When I looked last there were only a few talks and most of them seemed to be geared towards arch viz
bronze axle
When you log in, it lands you on one of the 5 discipline tracks.
You probably landed on the architecture one.
The Games track has the UE5 and Fortnite talks, plus several other very interesting ones.
plucky pagoda
oh wow,
bronze axle
This asset virtualization system sounds wild. I wonder how it will interact with source control. π€
plucky pagoda
Completely missed the tabs for tracks
ok yeah that's a lot nicer
oh man, I can't wait to watch some of these.
oh, the cross industry stuff
bronze axle
"Instead of pulling down an entire project's worth of data, you instead pull down a small set of metadata about the assets in the project. The real full data should then be stored on some fast shared storage - of which there will be multiple possible options here - then the full data is only downloaded on demand locally by the editor. This means you only have to pay for the time and drive space for things you actually use."
plucky pagoda
I need that just for my own bloated projects
bronze axle
I'm just wondering how it interacts with source control, if it only works with Perforce, etc.
Sounds kind of like Microsoft's VFS project for Git.
Watch Epic release their own source control solution. π
plucky pagoda
Never used it. I've never really liked working with Git. Yeah would love simple source control
Or integrate it into the engine in some way.
editor
Just install it on a server, create your project and go
bronze axle
That'd be pretty nuts.
But it sure sounds like a bespoke solution. I'm having trouble seeing how something like this could be compatible with other source control solutions.
plucky pagoda
in editor menus for reverting BPs to a previous version
bronze axle
Oof. Imagine.
plucky pagoda
I mean as long as I'm wishing for things
bronze axle
π
They also reiterated that transitioning to UE5 should be pretty reasonable.
"It's not a hard break. Your UE4 projects will continue to work in UE5."
plucky pagoda
Right next to the save button, a create version
proven thorn
@bronze axle It's probably very similar to how the asset meta data works.
In older versions of UE, it used to have to load the asset entirely before the Editor knew anything about it.
So my guess is that you have a file that has the minimum amount of data needed to represent that asset in the Editor content browser.
But if you want to edit it or do something with it, you then pay for the disk space.
bronze axle
Hm. Well the interesting thing to me is what they mean by "the full data is stored on some fast shared storage". Like where is the "full data" when it's not loaded in the editor? I have to assume in a remote location, i.e. a source control repo.
I wonder if it will be something like Dropbox's Smart Sync.
It shows your Dropbox's entire contents on your local drive without using disk space, downloading the file when you want to use it.
rare sparrow
TIL how to make subcategories for variables. How long has this been a thing?
This would've been useful to know a while ago
For those like me who didn't know, this is how it's done. Just like a normal category except you add the name of the category you want it to be inside at the start of the name followed by a | whatever that line thing is called
cold jay
Anyone seen Vulkan lighting issues on the new nvidia drivers?
451.67, that is
after updating to this set, suddenly GI lighting is flickering weirdly
rare sparrow
I don't know if this matters, but have you restarted your PC after installing the drivers?
cold jay
yes, a couple times
That was my first suspicion, and then I did a driver reinstall
with a restart
same issue. I think I may need to backlevel them
and side by side here with a similar laptop (different card, AMD) no GI issues on Vulkan
which is why I'm wondering if it's just my machine, or nvidia, or just this driver. The other folks on my team with nvidia are in europe, so won't be on for a bit
I'm going to snag this 541.74 driver, see if the Vulkan-specific tweaks fix my issue
https://developer.nvidia.com/vulkan-driver the bleeding edge one lol
plucky pagoda
I still call | a pipe and always think of it as representing putting something into something else.
cold jay
Wait, did someone change that?
To me it's still very much a pipe, like ps -ef|grep chromium or something
fathom wadi
@plucky pagoda I do too but I put stuff in my pipe and smoke it
me | stuff | smoke.exe
zinc matrix
Again someone mentioned my game eaeae https://massivelyop.com/2020/07/15/mmos-youve-never-heard-of-war-nomad-lifeblast-rise-in-time/
inner cloud
oh no im heartbroken
paragon characters cant be added to 4.18 projects
its 4.19+ π
pearl elk
You should be able to export em to FBX and get em in earlier versions
gilded lichen
What is the best option to create landscapes?
I heard that like 5 years ago world machine was the best option, but now?
And what about internal UE tools?
plucky pagoda
I like world machine, but if I didn't already own it I'd probably go with Houdini.
gilded lichen
But houdini is super hard to learn and I'd have to learn this huge software and a programming language in addition?
Just for a landscape
plucky pagoda
There's some decent landscapes on the market and in the permanently free collection
pearl elk
I dunno about Houdini being super hard, it might be hard to master but getting a basic terrain up and running for me was quite easy.
gilded lichen
Hm... Apprentice license is good enough for the terrain?
Can you link the collection please?
plucky pagoda
I mean pros use a grayscale photoshop project and the air brush tool.
zinc matrix
Hello everyone
I just started learning UE4 about a week ago, and hope to learn a lot from people here π
inner cloud
@gilded lichen Gaea now is far more superior than World Machine
and whats missing is coming in updates
very frequently
pearl elk
This is insane, watching this clip about data and this chick points and says these players here are spending $30k-40k its like whaaa
My entire games, movie and music catalog isnt even worth that
inner cloud
ye well I have earnt 40k in my lifetime or something π
propably not way more, never done the math π
pearl elk
How does anyone justify those types of spends in their games though, you might as well just hire the game designer youre paying for to make you a game in a year lol
pearl elk
I mean I could justify a few grand if my game is good but $40k for a single player and I bets thats not even the top end spends
inner cloud
@analog bone no fault at all, we live in such times, they do promote that You need to consume and kids are vulnerable to everything and trusting
also falling for scams
analog bone
Ea is shitty, but still pegi rated their game for 3 years old and +
plucky pagoda
My 3 yr old always picks the winner at the track.
inner cloud
@pearl elk ye hah Star Citizen costs 25k$
there is a version like that
and I was hating on AC back then with like 400$ pack I think π
plucky pagoda
does gaea support tiled landscapes at the resolutions used by UE yet?
inner cloud
I could live for 2 years on 25k$
@plucky pagoda next update will include tiled builds
already in progress for a while so should be coming really soon
gilded lichen
@inner cloud looks nice, thanks. What do you think is better: Houdini terrain or Geae?
plucky pagoda
Thing is Houdini is a lot more versatile and has many other uses.
inner cloud
@gilded lichen Havent tried Houdini terrain tool but also does look nice
since its Houdini, less friendly UI I would say π
while Gaea keeps similar nodes compared to World Machine/Substance
north torrent
Using Houdini to make terrain seems kind of like delivering pizza in an 18-wheeler truck.
It works... but isn't it a bit overkill...
fringe sundial
@gilded lichen you can actually connect houdini to gaea and use both at once
but yeh houdini is much better value as you can do a lot more stuff than just terrains with it
its main strenght with terrain is that you can save the terrain as a digital asset, plop it into your unreal scene, and it will set up everything correctly
all layers and materials and height dimensions
and of course if you change the digital asset you can reload it and it reimports
zinc matrix
eae
north torrent
How long does it take for small cats to turn into big cats?
I don't know if this cat is still growing...
primal spoke
Can Niagara be an imperfect substitute to Houdini in some areas?
north torrent
So maybe this is just a small cat...
solid aurora
if you want good terrain
just use Voxel Plugin from Phyronazz
really
if you want to for gameplay
that is
not for some flyby showcase
tulip orbit
has important idea to develop on game
tabs over to the notepad to write it down
forgets the idea π€€
zinc matrix
if thats your idea then i bet its penisfights.io
tulip orbit
pen is fights?
zinc matrix
penis fights..
tulip orbit
no weed smoking, just woke up tho
zinc matrix
best IO game..
tulip orbit
I never did figure out how to spin pens like that π¦
foggy path
it's just practice, I can do a few tricks like that :P
tulip orbit
I spent more time doodling in the margins of my notes I think
foggy path
hehe
some of them are pretty easy tbh, you just have to move your fingers in a specific motion
tulip orbit
throws pen back on desk in disgust bah
north torrent
I actually need an animation like that later on in the development of my game.
tulip orbit
I think it requires more coordination that I'm capable of
north torrent
One of the characters in my game is supposed to spin his pen when he is bored. He also needs some over the top dramatic ways to open his notebook and write things. Something that will read in the setting of the game.
I plan to commission someone to make those specific animations.
I think I found my new headphones for doing game development. Very middle of the road in every way, no distinct qualities to the sound to make them stand out. Should be good for testing my game and developing sounds for my game.
soft night
as when master it can be done bigger objects
I do different kind of spin with camelbak chute and soda cans
zinc matrix
https://imgur.com/HtaV95x be careful what ladies r u kissing they may have spider eggs in their mouths
static cosmos
can I mix 3200mhz ram with 2133 mhz ram? I expect it will all run at 2133 if I do that, but that's fine for now. I upgraded my cpu/motherboard last November, but I kept the 2 x 8 gb I bought in 2016, but it's 2133. I wanted to upgrade to 32 gb of ram, so I'm faced with either buying 4x8gb @ 3200mhz and putting it all in new, or just getting 2x8gb @3200 and mixing it with my 2133 until I can buy another 2x8 later on.
tulip orbit
@zinc matrix can y our rig do this? https://twitter.com/pafuhana1213/status/1283412067676876803?s=20
foggy path
@static cosmos try it and see. In theory it should work, and yeah it'll run at the lower clockspeed. It's not guaranteed to work though due to possible hardware issues
static cosmos
Thanks, I'm still debating, I may just jump to 2x16gb instead so I can go to 64 gb later if I want
I'm mostly trying to decide between Geil/Samsung/Crucial with each being $10 more than the one before it. 55-75 for a 16gb stick here.
Though for the same price as the samsung, I can get patriot viper ram which is CL16 vs 22 for the rest of them.
mild root
2x16 is a good choice
don't go crazy about manufacturer
gskill, kingston, samsung, hynix, whatever is old and was on market for a while is good
it is about tradeoff of frequency, timings and price
but youwon't loose anyway
static cosmos
Yeah, I decided to grab the Patriot Viper Steel CL16 stuff. Seems like the best value
static cosmos
I don't know if it's just here..but my only choices it seems were a few manufacturers at CL16, or the rest at CL22, there were a couple CL18
Even the G.Skill they have available is only CL16 and it's way more expensive than this.
mild root
the only thing is, if you want to add more ram later, it may be hard to find the same ram model
static cosmos
There is a few different places selling this patriot stuff, similar price, so if I want to add more in the next handful of months, I think I'll be okay
mild root
if it is the matter of months, then ok
static cosmos
I just got back to work doing remote development the beginning of last month after 4 months off due to corona. I'll be back to full time hours on these projects in a couple months so once that happens I'll probably add the other 32gb.
zinc matrix
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fluid bloom
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thin storm
ok
north torrent
Any genre without violence.
tulip orbit
genres with violence.
foggy path
FMV based adventure games
tranquil sonnet
MMORPGs
zinc matrix
io mmorpg
tranquil sonnet
Might be the next big thing, better get working on one immediately
gilded lichen
There is a megascans plugin for ue4?
neon crystal
i removed my details tab does anyone know how i can get it back?
foggy path
One of the menus should have an option to turn it back on, and there's also a reset layout option
neon crystal
i got it
tulip orbit
in the main window (map window?) under modes, its the mountain
gilded lichen
Ok,. thank yuo
north torrent
My new headphones came with a free headphone stand... Can't say I have ever put headphones on a stand before...
Maybe I just lack class...
tulip orbit
you do, but I dont put mine on a stand either. Mine are just hanging on the edge of a table right now
north torrent
I always just laid them on the table.
tulip orbit
my tables are always too full
north torrent
I try to keep my workspace pretty empty.
tulip orbit
I see some table, but not as much as I should
north torrent
Buy another table.
tulip orbit
no more space for more tables π¦
north torrent
Buy more space, then buy a new table.
tulip orbit
Cant afford more space. π¦
north torrent
Make your cat sit on the floor.
north torrent
There is your problem.
Cats are good at cleaning stuff off the top of your table and onto the floor.
tulip orbit
π
north torrent
I don't think my stray cat is growing... Maybe it is just a small cat...
tulip orbit
can I have your cat?
north torrent
It won't come inside, so I guess it is open source.
quiet narwhal
Inside Unreal chat is pretty much useless this week due to all the non devs spamming chat for game footage
north torrent
Sounds painful.
quiet narwhal
a ton of peple are there to see Gears 5 and Xbox Series X footage
and a PS5 vs XboxSX debate for some reason lol
fast cobalt
hey guys.. i did a talk with 80 level on how i went about making my short movie. Here's the talk if anyone's interested https://80.lv/articles/wake-real-time-workflow-in-ue4-for-animated-short-film
here's the movie link if anyone wants - https://www.artstation.com/artwork/qA8YW2
north torrent
Cool.
quiet narwhal
Inside Unreal is the twitch stream every thursday
rich quiver
yup
zinc matrix
i made infographic for my game https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/jcabEeOqztsN0Bg9ZLdFj9NNhCHODHHOnlelnWQKyoY/https/i.imgur.com/Eerzuem.png?width=168&height=635
tru
molten shoal
afternoon everyone
just came over from unity engine. figured out two weeks in that unity doesn't use standard c#. and since im learning standard c# coding in unity was going to require me to learn two different ways to code c# lol
foggy path
Unity uses standard C# :P
molten shoal
also quick question is anyones engine not loading giveing a 19 error?
ugg lol
well c++ is like sister to c# correct?
foggy path
it has similarities I guess but C++ is a bit lower level
molten shoal
should be easier to switch then
would be glad for easier. god c# is wicked painful to learn'
foggy path
well, you could just use BP's, you probably won't really need to touch C++ much if you're just starting out
molten shoal
not sure how far ill have to learn im wanting to make zelda style games
original zelda 2.5 d
this engine isnt starting out good though keeps crashing ugg
molten shoal
yeah
then i started a project and it keeps crashing trying to load an empty project
foggy path
Perhaps post the error you're encountering to #ue4-general
molten shoal
doesnt give one
its that black box that just says unreal engine project crashed
its not even loading the unreal engine main screen
its defualting to the project load
brb
ok nm it comp wont shutdown either. looks like it gets a forced shutdown
gilded lichen
Where can I find megascans plugin for ue4?
molten shoal
k back lets try this agian lol
also for those here if were ever talking and i vanish don't take offense. i explained my situation in the intro channel. its not anyone personally sometimes i have to leave comp fast
and im saying this so i dont get banned like i did on another discord i was on. they said i was being rude to much leaving in middle of conversations
zinc matrix
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/hs8puf/henry_cavill_building_his_pc/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share dont know if this was sent yet
thin storm
@zinc matrix I like the "steer arms independently and in realtime" feature
neon crystal
What is career chat for?
sage tendon
@neon crystal #more-resources
neon crystal
oh thx
sage tendon
Reading tip; start at the top and move downwards
rich quiver
grid base level streaming system π
zinc matrix
should i have child if am introvert
fluid bloom
I don't see what being an introvert has to do with it