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solar nebula
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Scatman had a speech problem and he was a very popular singer

zinc matrix
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Can I still do it? People understand me on the phone and stuff, so why wouldn't the player?

solar nebula
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Yeah! You have to learn to work around your speech issues. I mean, if your game isn't very serious, then you can just do your best, but with a lot of VA practice you can probably overcome whatever issues you might have

zinc matrix
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well let me tell ya something

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When i was in 5th grade i wasnt understandable AT ALL. Not even by family

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now im 21 and people can understand me

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not best but they can

solar nebula
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But you have to understand that voice acting is acting

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You don't speak like you speak as normal when you do voices

zinc matrix
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i understand that

solar nebula
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You gotta act. I'm not much of an actor and everyone has kinda their own way of getting into character

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But you gotta forget that it's yourself, gotta forget about your speech issues (if you can't get rid of them, you're gonna have to make them part of the character)

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When you're writing the script, it's probably best to actually play it out with your friend on discord

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You don't have to voice act or anything, just read the lines to each other

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That'll make you quickly realize which lines sound really stupid and awkward before you involve voice actors

fathom wadi
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I once saw a guy with a terrible stammer have brain surgery whilst he was awake. As they prodded parts of his brain, his speech got worse until it was just a mumble. So they prodded another part and it cleared up a little, they went further and his speech completely cleared up. It was one of the trippiest things I've ever seen on the internet.

alpine vessel
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Well, it happened. Someone professionally told someone else that they "better call Saul".

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<-- Saul

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And delivered it deadpan.

median wraith
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just today I read about someone asking for money at gofound for the same thing a tumor there

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well not sure if the video is a tumor

zinc matrix
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@fathom wadi its really insane..

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i wouldnt want to feel the pain from cutting my brain

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while im awake

atomic barn
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Fun Fact: You cannot actually feel your brain being cut as it has no pain receptors.

deep glen
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Yet when I hear dumb people speak, my brain hurts

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:p

novel latch
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this dude is so relaxed

pearl compass
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@solar nebula you might want to change coach to couch, otherwise, sounds weird.

atomic barn
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@deep glen that pain is actually your soul being crushed

deep glen
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lol

solar nebula
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@pearl compass hm? what do you mean?

novel latch
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this doc is just pressing on a region in his brain and he stops thinking, what a frickin' weird feeling this must be

pearl compass
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in the script you posted, she is sitting on a coach. A football coach? A swimming coach? or is it supposed to be a couch? xD

deep glen
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lol

solar nebula
zinc matrix
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lol

deep glen
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better than the scary disturbing adult sonic scripts for sure :p

atomic barn
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Ya, i was a bit worried there for a minute

pearl compass
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@solar nebula brilliant! Sold! Print it, we'll fix it in post like everything else made these days!

pearl elk
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shame we cant cut dumb people out like a tumor

zinc matrix
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Tru @pearl elk

pearl elk
solar nebula
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@zinc matrix because it'd be inappropriate for that chat, how exactly are bi women confused?

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Is that what you think bisexuality is? Lol

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Chris, do you know what bisexuality is? lmao

fathom wadi
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this sounds like a Twitter love story about to begin.

solar nebula
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"Do I want to make love to my boyfriend or to my best friend" is polyamory

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A completely different axis on the sexuality chart

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That's more of a people thing, bisexuality is about accepting both a guy or a gal' as your relationship partner

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That's not a healthy expression of bisexuality

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I'm pansexual, AMA

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What about them?

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Trains aren't a sexuality

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They are a fetish

fathom wadi
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I didn't know what sexuality I was until my wife told me I was a "disappointingsexually".

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jokes on her though, I save my good loads for the coke and whores binges I go on when she ain't looking !

solar nebula
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Ew ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
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joking... can't leave a good joke behind

solar nebula
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One isn't enough for me

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I need two

fathom wadi
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lol reminds me of last night. My daughter came down and said she had a nightmare because she didn't have enough plushies. So I grabbed 4 from the storage. I took her upstairs and when I got there, her entire bed was covered in plushies, in a circle around her for when she sleeps. Cheeky little monkey.

solar nebula
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I prefer to sleep with two people rather than one as well :>

jovial talon
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What's the server policy on that stuff these days

alpine fern
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oof

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how do you get all these random dms

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only like 3 people ever did that for me

signal citrus
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Roy will no scope ban them phy

spare glade
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@jovial talon Infraction.

jovial talon
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@alpine fern I answered in the graphics channel

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๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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Seems graphics has a higher amount of low quality users compared to cpp

signal citrus
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orly

alpine fern
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lmao low quality user

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I'm using that one for when people don't understand a game feature

zinc matrix
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jesus man just say no and move on lmao

spare glade
zinc matrix
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did, that one must have slipped somehow.

jovial talon
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Also in chats, never send a Hey message before asking a question

signal citrus
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they will be updated sometime this begining of year/next?

zinc matrix
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no? hey is a greeting

solar nebula
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@zinc matrix you have violated the code of ethics and now you have to endure us talking about it for a short bit until we forget all about it

zinc matrix
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yea, your right blackfox

jovial talon
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You're making the other person loose its time while he's waiting for you to type the question

zinc matrix
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not worth it

jovial talon
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I learned my lesson, I'll try not to answer questions in graphics anymore ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

signal citrus
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phy no

jovial talon
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I mean today I also had another guy who dmed me, but when I blocked him he created a new discord account to spam me ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

signal citrus
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oof

zinc matrix
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cant you get banned from discord for that?

signal citrus
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probably

zinc matrix
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might want to send the screenshots to discord support

signal citrus
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i'm betting if you just say hey, this happened

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they'll be like: lemme look at all your conversations, okay yeah.

alpine fern
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some people go so far as somehow getting 10 accounts phone verified just to spam my server for no reason

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then they all get banned in like 10 seconds and it was completely pointless

zinc matrix
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i just want to fix my materials, probably should have known dms weren't allowed

pearl elk
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Hey hows it doin sexc?

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bb needs some UE4 help

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Its always good to atleast break the ice before you take it to a back room ๐Ÿ˜›

solar nebula
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@zinc matrix the time doing this is the time you didn't spend explaining the actual question in the appropriate chat ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
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i did, asked every few days. no response

signal citrus
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whats the deal with the material

pearl elk
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It doesnt work

signal citrus
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ah one of those

pearl elk
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I think maybe if you pay it more that'll be a good deal

solar nebula
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@zinc matrix what is the material supposed to do

zinc matrix
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its supposed to add all the normal, albedo, etc but none of it shows up only the normal mat. I know its not on my part since the starter materials dont even work.

alpine fern
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gonna need screenshots here

solar nebula
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Yes. But also that doesn't sound like a very exciting question

zinc matrix
pearl elk
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Okay continue

zinc matrix
solar nebula
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What is supposed to poke out?

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Can you try putting this material onto an object on a scene and putting a point light next to it?

signal citrus
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It might be that that square is much larger and thus pokes lessessns?

zinc matrix
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yes, this has happened for many many projects.

solar nebula
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What is supposed to poke out?

zinc matrix
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the grey part you can see it in the icon

solar nebula
signal citrus
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lol

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thats what i was just doing

solar nebula
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What I see in your thumbnail is a perfect sphere with some bump mapped material

zinc matrix
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yea, only part that shows what its supposed to look like

solar nebula
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I don't see anything poking out

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Can you place this material onto a sphere and then put a point light next to it in the actual scene?

zinc matrix
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poke=bumps

solar nebula
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Not in the model viewer?

signal citrus
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theres nothing that would make it poke out there

solar nebula
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I feel like you're looking at the model under directional light (which doesn't emphasize normals as much as a point light would for example) and kinda giving up halfway

zinc matrix
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nope

solar nebula
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Can you put the material on a scene with a pointlight near it and screenshot it in higher resolution?

signal citrus
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model preview in general is not a great preview thing, its all hdri lookup

zinc matrix
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point lights, spot lights, directional lights

zinc matrix
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i did a tutorial awhile back that showed how to make a brick material that has bricks pushed out, tried to make it but couldn't find out the reason it just kept showing up as a normal mat like nothing changed. asked about it no response so....

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still absolutely no idea

signal citrus
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depa dipita dapada

solar nebula
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@zinc matrix you need to have either a tessellated material or a material with parallax mapping for things to "push out"

zinc matrix
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nope, im almost a 100% its neither of those

pearl elk
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I googled pokey materials for unreal engine 4 and found nothing ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

zinc matrix
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should look like this

solar nebula
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@zinc matrix you need it to be one of those lol

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If you want something to "poke out", you have to, wait for it, explicitly tell the GPU that it has to poke out in one or other way

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Alternatively, you can still make things look like they "poke out" with fakery and tricks

pearl elk
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normals only give an illusion of pokiness through lighting, they are not actual geometry so at certain view angles they fail

zinc matrix
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nah but the premade materials would still show that pokiness because there is no room for error since i have never touched them.

solar nebula
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There is no pokeyness. You're seeing things that aren't there

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Your thumbnail has vivid normals but no pokeyness effects on it

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You want me to give you a pixel by pixel breakdown of how it's still a sphere and it's just normals?

zinc matrix
pearl elk
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I think some of the starter materials have tessellation, displacement, maybe parallax

zinc matrix
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or in starter content "M_Brick_Clay_New" has bricks poking out

solar nebula
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I glanced through tutorial and I didn't find any materials that poke out

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I don't remember every starter material but I think there is one brick material that has pokeyness explicitly specific in it

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In an awkward way, but it has a simulation of parallax

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Your sphere pixels are all just that - a sphere. There is no parallax effect here

zinc matrix
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open it real quick

solar nebula
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Open what?

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I don't have any starter content on my machine. I use a custom version of the engine xD

pearl elk
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yeah its just the best way to show normals cuz you get a variety of view angles, on a flat surface normals always look crap ๐Ÿ˜›

solar nebula
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Show me the material graph of the brick material that stands out

zinc matrix
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alright i think that that pokiness was a bad word for the situation

solar nebula
zinc matrix
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parts of the material would "poke" out, like a dirt would have slight indents and maybe so abnormalities on top of it

solar nebula
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You can quickly switch between both pictures to see the parallax effect

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Oh wait

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No, this sucks. Just going to have to do with that one pic ๐Ÿ˜›

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Is this the kinda pokeyness you wanted?

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@zinc matrix is this the effect you wanna achieve?

zinc matrix
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i just want my bricks to poke out

solar nebula
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Slap some tessellation on them

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Or parallax mapping

signal citrus
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or world position offset with a really dense mesh

tough sierra
zinc matrix
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@zinc matrix i love it

bold fulcrum
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( โ€ข_โ€ข)ฯƒ @zinc matrix

zinc matrix
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tf

fathom wadi
cursive crypt
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Oh! Great news!

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Been keeping an eye on it, but looks still barebone. Never used it.

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Though 25k for such product is like nothing. Interesting how they will be used.

fluid bloom
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it goes into salaries

cursive crypt
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I thought its one dude or so.

raw rose
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That sounds awesome

fathom wadi
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yeah one dude making a game engine decided to put this app out

raw rose
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Ever since Adobe bought Substance I've been looking for alternatives

fathom wadi
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it is pretty barebones atm but its one to keep an eye on

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it still works decent tho

raw rose
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Well now he can hire some helpers

hazy delta
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well the dude said the megagrand will basically pay his work on this for the rest of 2020, so I wouldn't say it's nothing. ๐Ÿค”

stiff crystal
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it's not big enough for hire actual staff

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still nice to see that they gave that project the grant

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I honestly wish some day we get all tools integrated nicely to the game engine editor

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like, all modeling, sculpting, texturing

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and now some blocking level tools but actually tools that could be used in production

raw rose
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Ah damn. Still good though

stiff crystal
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that would streamline everything a lot

raw rose
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Yeah painting directly in UE4 would be ideal. But I also would want it to work in other engines

mossy nexus
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hopefully the new 'send to unreal' addon for Blender will cover most of that ๐Ÿ˜‰

stiff crystal
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re: armorpaint grant amount, the person could have just asked for that 25k only, so no need to speculate on that amount further

deep glen
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some friends of mine are in a corona prepper facebook group

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while I get some of the sentiment...

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its also really odd to see people purchase about 1k euro of goods

fluid bloom
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lol

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to me it just sounds like a bad case of influenza

deep glen
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my gf is a nurse, so she had a meeting where people explain what it is, how it works, and what it targets

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she goes

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"its bad for people with poor resistance to viruses, the elderly, people who get inflam..."

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"Yoeri, you'd be the first to die"

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gee, thanks gf

zinc matrix
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tru

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i wonder if i have poor resistance or not

fluid bloom
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if you're old or a baby, then yes

deep glen
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well, since the source of my lingering inflammation/infection was removed last year, I should be somewhat more healthy

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puts on tinfoil hat

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  1. elderly do not spend much money
  2. elderly generally cost a lot of money
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  1. they needed something to shhh the news about hong kong
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  1. they retaliate hauwei whatever its called its g-5 ban thingy
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:p

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  1. kanye west and justin bieber
stiff crystal
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ah, I thought the popular conspiracy theory was that americans planted the virus to weaken the chinese economy

deep glen
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well, they are the kind of government that would not think the concequences thorroughly

stiff crystal
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๐Ÿ˜„

deep glen
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"sir.. uhm, we seem to have forgotten that the chinese travel more than any other citizen"

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with gifs like that, its almost plausible

sage tendon
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Europe: +1000 new infections a day
China+ 100 a day
Me: ๐Ÿค”

fluid bloom
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well china has quarantined 1/10th of world population

deep glen
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@zinc matrix amen

fluid bloom
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or was it that much? ๐Ÿค”

stiff crystal
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also you can't trust any figures

pearl elk
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1/10 doctors agree

deep glen
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a friend said, the moment the news stops telling news about new outbreaks, and tries to calm the masses.. its time to panic :p

lucid walrus
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my japan vacation that's coming up in exactly one month doesn't like this ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

zinc matrix
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@fluid bloom im sure you can have poor virus resistance even if you are normal age male, under certain conditions

fluid bloom
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naturally

zinc matrix
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like diet reasons..

pearl elk
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the virus obviously spreads faster because the Earth is flat

deep glen
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its those surveillance birds that spread it :p

pearl elk
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People who travel should probably need to have more vaccinations

deep glen
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they should make a virus that only triggers in people who watch pleasure island, geordi shore, and that sort of smut

pearl elk
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dirty hands wont matter much once youve put it in your mouth

deep glen
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hides

pearl elk
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so everyone please stop licking random things, especially not other peoples phones

deep glen
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liking or licking?

pearl elk
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both

deep glen
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likes a facebook post

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bam

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sick

fluid bloom
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liking illicit licking

pearl elk
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wash your phones, dont eat sushi off them

deep glen
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lol

zinc matrix
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the virus comes from crypto coins..

fluid bloom
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is this good for bitcoin?

zinc matrix
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maybe Mike Hughes tried to find vaccine on foreign planets..

pearl elk
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oh theres a boss corona virus carrier now apparently

zinc matrix
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a hero..

pearl elk
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superspreader

zinc matrix
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@pearl elk you mean its even stronger now?

pearl elk
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must have levelled up

zinc matrix
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haha

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it got better armor now

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from killing all these healthy cells

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it got exp too

north torrent
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Well, now that the virus is spreading outside of China, I guess it is time for me to go back to China.

pearl elk
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just be careful I hear Randall Flagg is out there

north torrent
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Man receives $3,500 medical bill for test after returning to US from China

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The US isn't set up to deal with an outbreak...

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Testing revealed Mr Azcue had the flu, not the coronavirus. But his limited health insurance left him with a bill of $3,270 two weeks after his test. He will be responsible for $1,400 of that bill.

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"How can they expect normal citizens to contribute to eliminating the potential risk of person-to-person spread if hospitals are waiting to charge us $3,270 for a simple blood test and a nasal swab?" Mr Azcue told the newspaper.

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Costs $15 usd in China to get the same test.

deep glen
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here its free if you have insurance

pearl elk
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yeah coronavirus is free here too ๐Ÿ˜›

north torrent
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I have insurance in China, but I don't know how to use it... too many Chinese words...

Easier for me to just pay.

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China doesn't have Universal Healthcare or anything like that. Most employers offer health insurance for a very low fee, less that 10% of what it costs in the US.

But even without health insurance, things are just reasonably affordable to buy.

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If you need to get a blood test and an ultrasound because you have an ulcer, boom! done, same day, less that $10 usd.

Medicine, $4 usd.

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Meanwhile in the US it is over $1,000 and you generally have to wait 3 weeks.

pearl elk
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Great I think I need more HDDs

north torrent
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SSDs?

pearl elk
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nah I think I need a big HDD

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like 12TB

north torrent
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I'm up to 3.5 tb on my main rig. All SSD.

pearl elk
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I got about 2.5TB of SSD in my main rig

north torrent
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I run the operating system off the 500gb NVME and then have slowly added more 1tb ssds as time went along.

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I took one of the ssds out and brought it to the US with me. It had all my VST instruments on it, so I could make music.

The rest are quarantined because of the coronavirus...

stiff crystal
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I wonder when we'll start getting 4TB nvme's

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it pains me to buy 4TB sata SSD when the price per TB is pretty similar to nvme's per TB price

pearl elk
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I could get a better nvme I suppose

north torrent
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I want to get the Samsung 2tb evo+.

stiff crystal
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4TB qvo drive isn't all badly priced tho... it still got decent TBW regardless it being 4-bit MLC

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I'm fairly happy with the cheapo nvme I got

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was like half the price of samsung evo+ and it's not that far behind in perf

north torrent
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I use qvos for two of my storage drives.

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When it comes to storing movies and stuff I don't see any reason to pay more.

stiff crystal
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I can't wait till I finally can throw all my HDDs in trash

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like,I could do that today if I could afford SSD replacements

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but not looking to buy any more HDDs in the future

north torrent
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I have one hdd left in my i7-920 rig, and that is simply because I haven't taken the time to sort through the data on it.

Lots of really old game design stuff from 2011-2012...

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Probably mostly stuff I need to trash, but there may be some interesting stuff on it.

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Other than that I am all ssd.

stiff crystal
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whats funny is that for the price of the first gen 60GB SSD I bought over decade ago, I would now get 4000GB

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imagine if the same trend continues

pearl elk
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I hated my 40MB drives

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I had 2 of them

stiff crystal
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yeah, me too, and one 20MB ๐Ÿ˜„

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the 40MB one took 2x5.25" slot

lucid walrus
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flashbacks to 5.25 floppies

pearl elk
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they were great, its the 1.44s which used to chew up the HDD space and Doom took heaps ๐Ÿ˜›

deep glen
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@stiff crystal same hehe, paid like 500 or so euro for a 120gb one

stiff crystal
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also never regretted that

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I actually got another 60GB right after to run them in RAID-0

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was like fastest thing ever back then

pearl elk
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Im a millennial ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

lucid walrus
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f u, I'm gen x ๐Ÿ˜›

pearl elk
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or a Gen-X

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or neither

north torrent
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That was just simply not funny.

fluid bloom
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aka veeti-generation in finnish

pearl elk
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oldest of the millennials

north torrent
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Mr. Olympus, Australians don't get generations, you are all just Australian.

pearl elk
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We're generation c*^&

ancient hornet
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2x180KB on those if I remember well!

north torrent
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When PCs pretend to be an Xbox X...

stiff crystal
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that's scary

median wraith
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Download, play drm free, get a refund, keep playing your zip file

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lets see how many people does that

hazy delta
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easy piracy!

rain steppe
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Nice, I always prefer gog to other stores and I refused to use steam years ago

deep glen
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starting to look like that virus game

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Coronavirus COVID-19 Global Cases

mossy nexus
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If someone pirates your game, they weren't going to buy it anyway ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

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maybe. but the 30 day refund isn't for 'I didn't like it' refunds.

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I agree that piracy can and often does lead to increased sales. There are various indie musicians who have gained a lot from being pirated. It's one of the ways unknown artists get heard at first. Then there was the article recently about the game dev who saw a 400% uptake in steam sales after he released his game on Piratebay.

deep glen
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30 days is enough to finish quite a lot of games

mossy nexus
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CoD, less than 8 hours lol

median wraith
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My dirt mind

sly bay
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Suggestions on podcasts about game devellopment?

ancient hornet
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well I think it's fine because

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objectively, you don't need to not refund as soon as you downloaded the game anyway (on gog) ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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basically, it could already be abused before

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though maybe it'll increase abuse now that a lot more people can complete their games before the refund period ends

atomic barn
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Well it is pretty trivial to pirate DRM free games anyway

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and abusing refunds just piracy with extra steps

median wraith
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But we are all human beans Luos

quiet narwhal
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sigh I know epic commited to GDC but man I am starting to worry about this year due to the virus ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

median wraith
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Go with a mask or alike, well thing is if you have some kind of body/health issue complication better don't take the risk, anyway America by density have right now the less cases isn't it ?

atomic barn
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I'm imagining the conference with everyone in hazmat suits

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speakers roll out in a plastic bubble

quiet narwhal
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it's not me I am worried about, we already lost some good companies just worried we will lose more.

median wraith
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oh well don't count with asia ones

signal citrus
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I think gdc will be before the real scary stuff hits matheww

quiet narwhal
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state of emergency was called in San Fran yesterday soooooo

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it was pre emptive but still whats done is done

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I can't argue that the companies pulling out are in the wrong, they are in the right it's about preventing and being safe but darnit it's less games to play lol

signal citrus
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they have zero cases

quiet narwhal
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1

signal citrus
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but yeah i know

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there is one?

quiet narwhal
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yep in santa clara

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close enough to count its on the island/peninsula/whatever the fuck that area is

signal citrus
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bay area ye

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I think the Olympics have a higher chance of cancellation

quiet narwhal
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it should be fine and it probably will be just annoyed.

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yep MWC was cancelled

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people are already bitching about PAX and GDC not being cancelled

nova finch
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Facebook canceled an event too

ancient hornet
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easy

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Epic just has to send holograms to the GDC only ๐Ÿ˜›

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also the audience will send holograms too

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heck, just make it online I guess XD

neon iris
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Livestream the talk and booth. Problem solved

quiet narwhal
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yeah a few of the companies that cancelled are going to still do stuff just video form

mossy nexus
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Holograms. Holographic people on the stage, with holographic audience members.

signal citrus
#

in vr

neon iris
#

Moving pictures, oh my

mossy nexus
#

Just use BigScreen in VR, yeah ๐Ÿ˜„

signal citrus
#

thats cool your going though mathew

ancient hornet
#

I'm not surprised that companies will still be doing stuff even if they don't go in person

quiet narwhal
#

I try to always go, I get to meet people and talk about stupid stuff for a few days. It's like discord but with more hugging

ancient hornet
#

heck, they often use PAX/GDC/E3 for big announcements

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they have to do that announcement anyway ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

neon iris
#

No hugging this year. People have the cooties

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Although handshake is way more dangerous

quiet narwhal
#

they always have the cooties

signal citrus
#

lol

#

cooties are a thing

neon iris
#

Clean yourselves you gross arse people ๐Ÿ˜œ

quiet narwhal
#

even cleaning yourself it's just hard to keep 100% clean when sharing stuff etc etc

#

lots of drugs, lots of trying to keep clean, come back with cooties

signal citrus
#

there must be a way

quiet narwhal
#

repeat

ancient hornet
#

you take a big gallon of that alcohol hand cleaning stuff

neon iris
#

Remember to lick everything business card you receive

signal citrus
#

what about full hazmat suit hugs?

ancient hornet
#

put it in a watergun

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and spray people that try to get close

neon iris
#

Especially Allarโ€™s knife card

quiet narwhal
#

breach in the suit and you are done for

bold fulcrum
#

You don't waste precious alcohol for external cleaning.

quiet narwhal
#

I do think people try that tho, just cleanse your insides with alchohol every day to try and kill the cooties

bold fulcrum
#

It is better used as preventive measure, not a cure.

neon iris
#

Drink enough to create a layer of dead tissue. Genius

signal citrus
#

@late night has a knife card?

ancient hornet
#

it's used as a cooties carrier repellant in my case ๐Ÿ˜›

neon iris
#

Yes

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They are weapons

#

Good for shaving too

ancient hornet
#

anyway, seems that the virus won't break the skin

signal citrus
#

Shaving

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This is another consideration, to beard or no beard

ancient hornet
#

so you only need to clean your hands before you use them to touch your face or eyes or the like

#

which is hard ๐Ÿ˜ข

neon iris
#

No virus can break the skin

bold fulcrum
#

Depends on the speed at which the virus is flying.

ancient hornet
#

saw reports that the virus doesn't like "not cold" weather, or more exactly dry weather

bold fulcrum
#

If it can't break the skin, it is not flying fast enough.

neon iris
#

Sneeze harder

signal citrus
#

lol

neon iris
#

And into someoneโ€™s mouth

signal citrus
#

that person, has a powerful sneeze

bold fulcrum
#

hypersonic sneezes are more effective, but louder than subsonic ones.

ancient hornet
#

indeed, it's just a matter of energy

atomic barn
#

It was inevitable.

neon iris
#

You can break your ears? Itโ€™s just cartilage

signal citrus
#

bad writing

median wraith
#

GDC isn't cancelled as Yevgueni Kasperski will be there

foggy path
#

I wonder if Dwarf Fortress will ever be "done"

fringe sundial
#

nope

#

never

foggy path
#

it definitely seems like one of those games where you can just eternally keep adding things

#

I still wish they would just do a fucking UI overhaul

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because it's about as obtuse as using Vim or Emacs with randomized keys

#

:P

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But maybe it's just one of those things that don't really matter for their target audience

fringe sundial
#

oh he will do some UI work

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for the steam version

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now he has released the start of the Villains update

#

next is mostly some patching of the initial bugs

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and then go work in the steam version

foggy path
#

ah

fringe sundial
#

UI + sprites

foggy path
#

yeah I haven't really followed the development for a while

#

it's one of those games that I check every two years or something lol

fringe sundial
#

he has daily dev posts on his page

#

but yeah, he just added villains

#

you can get stuff like an undercover vampire in your fort

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or a thief who is there to steal shit

foggy path
#

lol sounds good

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I remember having skeletons or something attack my fortress and turned out there was a necromancer somewhere on the map etc.

fringe sundial
#

on the empire layer, now you get stuff like noblemen conspiring, or necromancers trying to take over the world

foggy path
#

it's such a fun game if you just have the time to get into it

stiff crystal
#

someone broke github :/

foggy path
#

That gives me an idea, I should play a necromancer in D&D, and have a trait that he just likes to scare people, he's not actually evil lol

fringe sundial
#

chaotic good necromancer

foggy path
#

lol

#

pretty much all of my characters have some over the top "feature" like that

#

meanwhile everyone else who I play with always has a sort of semi serious character

#

I played a pyromaniac wizard, and a barbarian with a hero complex lol

median wraith
#

@foggy path thats what the COD players every year ask, will ever be done ?

foggy path
#

really, they get a new game every year ๐Ÿค”

fringe sundial
#

last time i played D&D, the DM was unexperienced and i got annoyed because my paladin was on autopilot

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"you cant do that, it breaks vows"

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and stuff

foggy path
#

that sucks

fringe sundial
#

other time i played a magical swordguy, dont remember many details. He was a HUGE bastard

foggy path
#

I don't know much about DM'ing but I think letting players do random shit would be funny so I would let them lol

fringe sundial
#

i had him on illusionist magic and rogue-ish combat

#

the funniest thing on D&D i have ever seen was when we killed a dragon by sticking a tree into his butt

foggy path
#

...what

fringe sundial
#

many laughs were had

foggy path
#

lol

fringe sundial
#

no joke

foggy path
#

how did that happen

fringe sundial
#

mague: i fireball his face -> low/no damage cuz dragon
warrior: i try to hit him, weapon bounces
berserker: i try to hit him, weapon bounces

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next round

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berserker: i cut a tree with my axe and shove it to the dragon ass

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DM: bruh.... Roll dexterity

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nat 20

foggy path
#

that's amazing lol

median wraith
#

isn't D&D like people invent the whole game ?

fringe sundial
#

yes @median wraith

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D&D 5 rules are purposely fairly high level precisely to allow that

median wraith
#

why I always seen that thing as so extreme nerd thing

foggy path
#

yeah, our DM told us recently that he had to pretty much come up with new stuff on the spot because we did something that he did not anticipate at all lol

#

like an entire sort of new "story arc" of sorts

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I don't really see it being an extreme nerd thing, it's more like making up a story

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I know the DM's got a whole story and characters and everything he's created for us to play through, sometimes we just don't go into the direction he is trying to make us go lol

fringe sundial
#

@median wraith on its core, Pen and paper rpg is about group storytelling

#

some people like to rules-lawyer the fuck out of it, and they play Pathfinder or other rules-heavy rpgs

#

other people like to play others where the rules are lighter, and have more improvisation

#

the DM steers the adventure

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and the players do dumb shit

foggy path
#

There's a funny one called "Snakes on a Plane: The RPG"

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it's pretty light and easy to get into, I played it with some friends

fringe sundial
#

i can tell that the whole "stick a tree up the dragon but" was one the funniest shit i have ever played with anyone

#

it works best if doing critical hit or critical miss do whacky things

#

from that same campaign, we started "interrogating" some people in a bar

#

as usual

#

the warrior was like "this guy doesnt want to talk to me, so i slap him"

#

with the intent of just catching his attention/intimidation

#

he did nat20, critical hit

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DM "you slap the guy so hard you throw him across the entire room"

#

massive pub brawl happens

median wraith
#

I can't really deal with these things tbh

#

If the game have some logics set before play then can go, when someone is doing that while plays, turns so absurd to me I can't deal with

fringe sundial
#

thats where the rules come from

#

some RPGs are more rules-heavy than othesr

#

im almost sure PAthfinder has a slap table somewhere

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if you prefer to take it more seriously, you can play something like Pathfinder where everything has rules

foggy path
#

yeah I guess at least with D&D the rules give you a framework, and there are plenty of examples of how the skills are used

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but if a player tries to do something that isn't specified, then the DM can pretty much decide what to do... like maybe you try to do something that requires precision, in that case the DM might tell you to roll for dex

fringe sundial
#

D&D is higher level, so for example while in pathfinder there are specific rules for almost everything, like climbing or whatever

#

in D&D you just do "roll dex"

signal citrus
#

will you be at gdc vblanco?

mossy nexus
#

AD&D 2nd edition. Anything further is just computer game addons ๐Ÿ˜„

fringe sundial
#

@mossy nexus D&D5 is like updated 2nd

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pathfinder is way too gamey, and so was D&D 3 and 4

#

@signal citrus mate im european

fringe sundial
#

going to gdc would cost me 5k euros minimum

#

@deep glen fucking bullshit, i dont trust that

mossy nexus
#

Oooh so 5 is more back to it's roots kinda vibe is it?

fringe sundial
#

@mossy nexus yeah

#

its quite simplified

#

the basic core rules of 5 are fairly simple

#

and btw, the core rules book is free

mossy nexus
#

oh.

#

Interesting. ๐Ÿ™‚

signal citrus
#

is it like the shader compilation optimization that involves raising or lowering priority? lol

deep glen
#

all it does is basically setting the priority different. thats like.. a 50 cent job at most

fringe sundial
#

@mossy nexus @median wraith basic rules of D&D 5, official pdf

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you should have a look at it, hev

median wraith
#

@deep glen so right click in the process and set high

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๐Ÿค” ๐Ÿค–

deep glen
#

yup

median wraith
#

Basic Rules: 180pages

mossy nexus
#

lol, considering the old 2nd ed rules were around 200 pages for each book, minimum 2 books - Players Handbook and the Dungeon Masters Guide.. nevermind all the various extras

fringe sundial
#

this one is kinda both at the same time

#

so yeah its quite shortened

carmine frigate
#

only bp/ code plugin from marketplace i found usefull is the free varest plugin

#

the advanced locomotion 1 is decent but id rather stick to the paragon anim bp

#

most of the free for the month packs are complete trash ๐Ÿ˜›

#

stopped even opening em

mossy nexus
#

Oooft.

carmine frigate
#

the more usefull they are the more complex and harder to customize

#

like it might look it wil save time but gunna bite u later on

median wraith
#

@fringe sundial how often you play that ?

zinc matrix
#

I only like them to steal bits and pieces, never to use them wholesale

carmine frigate
#

yea or if u have no clue where to start

median wraith
#

I don't see the point in the system to help developers and give away the less expensive 5โ‚ฌ packs

fringe sundial
#

@median wraith not very often, given all my friends are in an entire different country

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and getting a group of at least 4 guys is stupidly hard

median wraith
#

but when you used to be here ?

fringe sundial
#

once every 2 months, maybe

median wraith
#

these match are in one day or you play the same for many days ?

carmine frigate
#

i dont mind em giving the packs, for me personally i dont see me using em a lot

#

mayB if something cool pops up

fringe sundial
#

@median wraith one day

#

you can do multi-day campaigns (its the proper way) but we have never managed to keep a campaign going for more than 3 times

carmine frigate
#

and some art mayB

#

art is easy to rate

#

but this vault thing is a total mess ๐Ÿ˜›

median wraith
#

I don't use any pack as is

#

just some code plugins

carmine frigate
#

wich ones?

median wraith
#

and because every day I'm older to edit and put them all inside a single plugin

#

let me check

carmine frigate
#

i used Varest a bunch

median wraith
#

got a lot but using count ones

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LowEntry one

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and mines

carmine frigate
#

ahh cool

median wraith
#

and the ones that extend the editor

carmine frigate
#

yea i have a lot of editor plugins aswell

#

when something doesnt work it prolly cuz im used to it bein on

#

low entry looks decent

fathom wadi
#

I roll my own plugins for two reasons. 1. because I can. and 2. I'm a cheap-ass sonnova unity

zinc matrix
#

@zinc matrix

solar nebula
#

I'm a prepper, I have a spare toothbrush always ready

fathom wadi
quiet narwhal
#

it sounds like I need to swap to Unity since I can make more money ๐Ÿ˜ฆ it was fun UE

median wraith
#

XD

#

I was learning it couple months ago for 2D

#

Godot problem, I still see there a problem on the architecture one file build and that scripting scares me

zinc matrix
#

you use GoDOT?

#

funniest part, doing 2D in godot doesnt seem any better,eeasier or more comfortable than doing 2D in gamemaker or unity

fathom wadi
#

That guy just literally stated that Unity is now better than Unreal because PBR textures and a lighting upgrade made them look the same. I know this guy knows a few things, so why is he being so foolish and to use aesthetics to grade the mechanics?

zinc matrix
#

i thought unity was better than ue4 before dots

fathom wadi
#

Everyone knows games only look as good as the artist can produce and the PBR "leveller" didn't make all other engines automatically better. It made them normalised.

median wraith
#

well there are graphic features that Unity have and UE4 don't and others than UE4 have and Unity don't

zinc matrix
#

games are not about graphics

median wraith
#

like idk whats going on with their tessellation yet

fathom wadi
#

yeah apples and oranges in terms of the mechanics

zinc matrix
#

only some people rate games basing score mainly on game graphics but they sooner or later learn that gameplay is more important than visuals

median wraith
#

in other hand they have the dots thing and these new architectures, and here you had some tools split inside editor for BP etc

fathom wadi
#

DOTS is the multiplayer server thing right?

#

no wait thats proton

#

or photon

median wraith
#

but still I'm in the thought Epic should expand the BP, as is the only scripting they have, and a lot of core things are missing, even the architecture is a limitation in some cases

fathom wadi
#

god knows.

quiet narwhal
#

DOTS is the make shit faster stuff for Unity in the future

median wraith
#

no, DOTs are for the code structures

fathom wadi
#

its not the only scripting it has. Its the entry level scripting that should provoke people to learn real code :p

median wraith
#

isn't for multiplayer

fathom wadi
#

but people can go python too

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or C#

#

one mo I need to read on the DOTS thing. Ive seen it talked about but not paid attention

quiet narwhal
#

but ignoring all of that the fact that the last time he used UE was in UDK days does not present a fair comparison ๐Ÿ˜ฆ just a bummer that the opinion was basically based on graphics and money

median wraith
#

yeah compare UE4 with UDK right now is well...

zinc matrix
#

i was messing with dots but DOTS networking solution is less straight-forward than monobehaviour-based frameworks

quiet narwhal
#

but hey I was bored and this is #lounge and it popped up in my playlist lol

zinc matrix
#

so im just using objects now, but i may rewrite my game one day in dotz

fathom wadi
#

yeah I see a lot of clickbait that is like that in my list. "Why is Godot better than UE4?" and stuff. Obvious opinions ahead ๐Ÿ˜„

median wraith
#

even if still have some missing features like lets say these audio splines someone named today at Twitter, the whole structure is now focus to any kind of game etc, so yeah compare these today....

fathom wadi
#

audio splines?

median wraith
#

yeah I read somewhere there was at UDK some audio things that follow an spline where you are close you listen the audio close ?

#

or the lens flares and lens flares editor (at UDK)

#

there was many guys requesting that on forums

#

I don't have any request right now tbh

fathom wadi
#

There is infinite things you say UE4 or Unity needs, that they don't have, so you can always make a video criticising either. And that gets clicks. Not many, but some. ๐Ÿ˜„

median wraith
#

thats true, well does nothing at the end

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I mean time to time one annoys by many and talk about these things but is a good to liberate of these in your mind xD

fathom wadi
#

I dont really understand the hype about this DOTS system. It seems to be automating the process of multithreading, which is cool, but was Unity performance ever so much of an issue that this overhaul re-invents the wheel in terms of the scope of it?

quiet narwhal
#

I will say my videos series on making a game in UE4 & Unity, identical games just walking thru the process, did not get very many views overall lol

#

so yeah clickbait definitely gets the views, real content not so much

median wraith
#

@fathom wadi Its for big range things, like games with tons of entities and that, RTS etc

fathom wadi
#

like a core management system?

median wraith
#

From what I read in some way yeah

#

MathewW did you ever worked as teacher for this things ?

fathom wadi
#

I guess thats cool. Its often time consuming when you are working in your own mind to visualise how things are built from the code

median wraith
#

But you could be an awesome teacher on this areas

quiet narwhal
#

I do not have any official license for teaching no

median wraith
#

mmm Well how is named what these guys from Epic does traveling around the world talking about the engine etc ?

fathom wadi
#

lucky?

median wraith
#

Had a name but don't remember right now, well you get an idea about what I mean ๐Ÿ˜…
Alex is doing that right now isn't he ?

#

But there is other guy at Twitter I don't remember the name ๐Ÿค”

zinc matrix
#

LOL he goes to australian bars and talks to chicks about unreal engine four

fathom wadi
#

sjoerd de jong did a few talks about the engine, you mean him?

#

*Hourences

quiet narwhal
#

those people are evangelists

fathom wadi
#

yeah

quiet narwhal
#

and they don't want me to be one lol

median wraith
#

that evangelists

#

why ?

quiet narwhal
#

Alex is doing on site training, Chris Murphy is another Evangelist. There are a few in different parts of the world, they generally have areas

#

I don't know why, I just don't fit the requirements I guess

fathom wadi
#

offically licensed UE4 trainers should be a thing.

fringe sundial
#

@fathom wadi DOTS makes somewhat easy to write huge perf code

median wraith
#

Yeah Chris Murphy is the one I had in the mind from Twitter

quiet narwhal
#

@fathom wadi they are

fringe sundial
#

the job system makes making multithreaded code a lot easier than "normal"

#

and the compiler makes C# be as fast as Cpp, and faster in some cases

#

then you have the ECS stuff which is also pretty cool

fathom wadi
#

well thats a brave statement so I would have to see results. But sounds great.

quiet narwhal
#

Epic offers in class and on site training from people like Alexander and others as part of there live training team

#

the other half is the online learning team

fringe sundial
#

@fathom wadi DOTS basically limits you pretty hard into using data-oriented code structure

#

thats why it makes MT easy

fathom wadi
#

certification to go and do your own thing without Epic would be cool tho. Rather than some in-house setup hiring people out

#

@fringe sundial where do you think that would leave other engines if this is such a game changer ? Reckon they will copy/paste and follow suit?

quiet narwhal
#

I wish I could find it but there is something out there where you can apply to be an officially recognized educator by epic

fathom wadi
#

nice Ill check that out

quiet narwhal
#

but I cant find the stupid website for it. Epic themselves doesnt want to "certify" anyone officially tho

fathom wadi
#

I thought with the unreal academy, it was getting closer to some kind of self-employed setup for training with the right accreditation, but then it seemed to turn into something else.

quiet narwhal
#

yeah epic doesnt want to offer certification, it means they are beholden to quality

#

any idiot can pass the unity certification stuff and be a certified unity dev, epic doesnt want that. It's like that in alot of industries

median wraith
#

There was something outside of my country that always loved and was the way to proof you're valid for what you do rather than certifications and stupid papers that say you're something, and for some reason I see the world taking that out in some areas, to me that was the correct way

quiet narwhal
fathom wadi
#

but if testing was done offline, in centers you could visit once you finished enough online training, you pay a fee, do a live test (like a job interview) with invigilation, and if you pass, you get your parking validated.

quiet narwhal
#

it is done like that

median wraith
#

Assassins Creed Unity Mobile*

zinc matrix
#

@quiet narwhal youre maker of assasin crid ?

quiet narwhal
#

but testing generally consists of memorizing answers to questions

zinc matrix
#

loooool

median wraith
#

305$ these certificates

quiet narwhal
#

I dunno I am biased for certs lol. I had a friend who was A+ certified in computer tech and would always call me for the answers. Maybe a little jealous as he had a job doing that and I couldnt because I didnt pay for a piece of paper

median wraith
#

You just gave the reply to what I mean

fathom wadi
#

I feel you on that. Im missing a degree I had set my heart on, due to money and some life choices that left with me too many children :p

median wraith
#

Here used to happen that and still happening someone that paid a paper pretend to be better than someone with 10 years of exp without it (but he isnt )

fathom wadi
#

im gonna read through that PDF though. Seems like it was there all along and I wasn't looking hard enough

median wraith
#

well the children are more valuable than these papers

#

add your years of parenting multiplied by the total number of kids, divided by 2 cause is shared with your partner

quiet narwhal
fathom wadi
#

well sounds like it could be a nice thing to do. Start with some personal training, build upto training centre. Beats doing it for free and you get to train the next generation of unreal users. Can't be a bad thing.

median wraith
#

I should have taken a teacher offer a person drop to me back in the time for UE4 ๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿฝโ€โ™‚๏ธ

fathom wadi
median wraith
#

XD

quiet narwhal
#

stuff like what Kenney is doing for his pixeland stuff is what I like to see, it's just money and money and money thats the issue

median wraith
#

The question is I could teach the same for years ? Its like live in a constant repeating year for your whole life teaching the same to different people each year

quiet narwhal
#

I've been doing that since UE4 came out and I like it but I like to learn. When teaching you are learning as well

#

even the same course could be different every year based on the people you teach and your experiences from the last year

fathom wadi
#

yeah and once you get into the paperwork side of teaching, you lose a lot of time to learn. Its a dichotomy that ultimately turned me away from teaching. For 1 on 1 teaching though, I could handle the paperwork + continue to learn + earn.

#

then I think, "them that can, do. Them that can't, teach". And I go right back to learning something new. ๐Ÿ˜„

zinc matrix
#

would you serialize inventory or not

runic depot
#

I'm just gonna be douche and say: Can you fix World Composition? It's it's like working with a cat on acid. I need to use it but it crashes every 1 minute (literally).

fathom wadi
#

I use it and it works quite well. Whats the crashing issue?

#

it does have quirks tho and could be better of course.

runic depot
#

If only I knew, right now I have problems loading every sub-level, since I added one to a different layer, and then tried to add the rest to the same layer, but I can't load them all anymore because it crashes every single time

#

that's just once the latest going on right now...

fathom wadi
#

got an error log?

runic depot
#

LoginId:63f15af34a304a3ffd50c49478975e99
EpicAccountId:e9bca647b8ee4cfc93b15bbd70771d6c

Assertion failed: TessellationFalloffSettings.TessellationComponentSquaredScreenSize == SceneProxy->TessellationComponentSquaredScreenSize [File:D:/Build/++UE4/Sync/Engine/Source/Runtime/Landscape/Private/LandscapeRender.cpp] [Line: 672]

UE4Editor_Core
UE4Editor_Core
UE4Editor_Landscape
UE4Editor_Landscape
UE4Editor_Renderer
UE4Editor_Renderer
UE4Editor_Core
UE4Editor_Core
UE4Editor_RenderCore
UE4Editor_RenderCore
UE4Editor_Core
UE4Editor_Core
kernel32
ntdll

#

what's the tessellation is going right here lol

median wraith
#

the landscape have a tessellation limitation range component

fathom wadi
#

I'd defer to someone who knows more than I on such a thing.

#

I can do the level streaming bit, but thats something else.

runic depot
#

so it seems if one of sub-level landscapes has a different tessellation setting than the other ones, it crashes... I got them all loaded by changing back the one to the default settings

agile egret
#

#TheMoreYouKnow (R)

zinc matrix
#

is any hacker here

#

or no hecker

runic depot
#

#l33tsp34k

zinc matrix
#

huhhh

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i need to access my project in ue4

fathom wadi
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but why would you level stream with different tessellation settings on your landscapes? Not saying it's wrong, but is there a reason you did so? I might run into that in the future

agile egret
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Script kiddie detected

fathom wadi
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BO2K-4-life

runic depot
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but why would you level stream with different tessellation settings on your landscapes? Not saying it's wrong, but is there a reason you did so? I might run into that in the future
@fathom wadi I don't, I wanted to change them all to that setting but it only applied it to one

quiet narwhal
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watching the presidential address about the virus and my god he really is orange

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like is that a medical issue or a design choice?

fathom wadi
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his Nvidia Lizard Display colour management settings are still on default for his setup. You know these aliens haven't got used to our LUT settings yet

plucky pagoda
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Gama issue

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GDC is a liablility issue if a company sends an employee with an on going state of emergency, even if it's preemptive in nature. I'd expect more pull outs.

quiet narwhal
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Ah ha!

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didnt think of gamma

plucky pagoda
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ah, missing m . I knew that looked funny

quiet narwhal
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yeah I am worried about more. If Epic sticks it out maybe it just means more time for me to cozy up to them ๐Ÿ˜‰

fathom wadi
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yeah a Gama issue is a left wing argument on Gamasutra :p

runic depot
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what's the best place to talk about "Open world tools" in general? It seems there's more people here, than in "level design" channel where I tried originally... where do y'all hang around?

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would be cool to have a place where folks working on large open world games or project could all cozy up IMHO

fathom wadi
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Honestly there is so much variance in conversation in here, its just as good a place as any

quiet narwhal
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jesus does the president of the USA ever smile.. sooo hangry

plucky pagoda
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Probably all the cauliflower they hid in his mash potatoes.

runic depot
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Ok, I guess I'll ask here ๐Ÿ™‚

fathom wadi
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Nobody smiles after they have been shown the "Grassy Knoll" video in the CIA briefing room once they become President. That video turned Obama grey in no time ๐Ÿ˜„

runic depot
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I might not understand how the distances work... my layer distance is default 50000

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I would expect LOD 3 to show up, since it has a very large view distance, but it doesn't

plucky pagoda
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Are you saying it's not switching LODs?

runic depot
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it's not showing any of them

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it does load the new map when the layer seems to hit the 50,000 mark

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but I thought it would show the static meshes as well...

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It should show the stuff beyond the yellow line (current map terrain)

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But it don't

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and I'm reading the docs like: "Distance relative to original level streaming distance. For example, if original level has streaming distance = 1000, and LOD1 level has distance 1500, then LOD1 level will be visible at [1000..2500] range and original at [0..1000] range."

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Oh... tsk tsk

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it was a matter of the wrong material being applied to the he HLOD... I change it since it was generated, and the LODS have the old material... so I didn't recognize them... sigh, thanks WCBama

agile egret
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Can you please stop disabling my breakpoints every time I open my project? K thnx

mossy nexus
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OOoo, gonna cost ya. Yeesss sir. ๐Ÿ˜„

agile egret
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Like why would they do that? VS doesn't do that to me

red basin
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Mathew if itโ€™s just Epic sticking it out that means youโ€™ll have to compete for their time even harder since thereโ€™s fewer options for those trying to make connections etc :p

agile egret
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I have breakpoints setup for failure mode. I don't think about these checks after I re-open a project. Logging via the log gets old

real palm
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I'll be at GDC and if Epic won't pay attention to you then you can hang with me instead

quiet narwhal
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Whoo

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I never turn down people but it's rare I find a people besides the epic peoples lol

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I always try and harass the lumberyard people but the visual scripting system seems to be ignored now ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

fathom wadi
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@agile egret I didn't realise it did that, but its both fixable and implementable in a plugin. I could have sworn it kept breakpoints though

quiet narwhal
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omg I've been at work too long I cant type

real palm
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I feel like it does keep breakpoints

quiet narwhal
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I feel like it does keep them but turns them grey so they are disabled

real palm
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at least for me

agile egret
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yes

fathom wadi
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yeah seems like complex projects with precise debugging would miss loss of breakpoints too hard

agile egret
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but why? just leave them alone, they were just fine red and angry

real palm
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Nah I mean active

agile egret
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mine turn disabled

quiet narwhal
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I get the grey hulk versions of them all the time, it's weird

fathom wadi
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now I have to open a project and test this. mumbles about not looking up from work at inappropriate moments

agile egret
quiet narwhal
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yeah that is what I mean by grey, but its not grey

fathom wadi
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perhaps it knows there should be a breakpoint but hasn't associated the object with it yet

agile egret
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Its been like this for as long as I have used the engine

quiet narwhal
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yeah it fixes itself when you save the BP it's annoying

red basin
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Ugh lumberyard. Breaking my heart

fathom wadi
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RIP engine choices

agile egret
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(mine don't re-enable by saving)

quiet narwhal
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omg breakpoints are broken, burn the engine. burn it all down.

agile egret
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carefull

real palm
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most of the engine is sound

agile egret
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you get banned for that around here xD

real palm
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just BPs Kappa

agile egret
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That was a shot at me wasn't it?

real palm
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No?

quiet narwhal
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nope just dont want to be at work so it should all go up in flames

agile egret
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k, cause I think blueprints are the shit, and will never back down from that point

quiet narwhal
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oh well then that's not nice

agile egret
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it has its place next to c++

real palm
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BPs are nice but they've a ways to go

agile egret
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You won't be happy until bp's are mind reading and self assembling. xD

quiet narwhal
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I wont be happy until C++ is removed from the engine ๐Ÿ˜›

real palm
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Namely, having a more performant editor, the ability to merge/cherry pick, and full language features

agile egret
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all asm right?

real palm
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MathewW, then you have chosen death

fathom wadi
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ok that breakpoint thing is gonna bug me. Not hard to deal with, but I would think a flag in project settings for breakpoints might be worth a look at

agile egret
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(I checked, but yea, a flag would be nice)

real palm
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wait, is that actually how they work?

quiet narwhal
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I checked as well but yeah a flag would be nice

real palm
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I really could have sworn I have opened BP which had active breakpoints

fathom wadi
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oh my freaking lord.

agile egret
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Aren't you like one of the BP Gods? How u not kno this?

real palm
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Ironically yus

fathom wadi
agile egret
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wtf!

real palm
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Wat

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WAT

fathom wadi
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I have a half done plugin that implements that which I spent a fucking month on or more

real palm
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Oof

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Hey you wanna take over a plug-in to make macro wildcards better?

agile egret
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Now you can make a 30 minute plugin that sets the shortcut for you xD

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This should also be on by default

fathom wadi
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I have harped on about conditional breakpoints for about 2 years now. Finally got my arse into gear and learned how to do it. Took a break after a bit of burnout to do something else, was gonna come back to it after a Blender run and finish it. Now I'm depressed.

agile egret
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I was accessing an array index @ -1 with no error

fathom wadi
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but also. yay conditional breakpoints. ยฌ_ยฌ

agile egret
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dude, I can't find conditional, what engine are you on?

fathom wadi
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4.24

agile egret
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I hope thats not your own plugin giving you that option xD

fathom wadi
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nope

agile egret
quiet narwhal
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4.24.3 here, nothing in editor or project for conditional

fathom wadi
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Mine is different. It lets you right click the context menu of a node, then you select to Add Conditional Breakpoint. It then creates a bound function/macro. So you have graph access to functionality. I guess this is just same thought process, different implementation

agile egret
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Are you freaking advertising xD

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we can't find it xD

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This is a prank for adverts isn't it xD

fathom wadi
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wait. it might be my plugin after all. alex

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I absolutely do not remember setting that up tho

agile egret
fathom wadi
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ok lemme check

pearl elk
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You been rogered son

fathom wadi
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will be funny if its mine ๐Ÿ˜„

agile egret
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Should be the first one xD

fathom wadi
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perhaps I did do that. ahem

agile egret
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hahahahahahahahaha

fathom wadi
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thank the lord. I was almost heartbroken ๐Ÿ˜„

agile egret
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So how are you feeling about this "treachery" now?

fathom wadi
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I feel great. buy my plugin

pearl elk
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you must release plugin for all now

real palm
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HEY WAIT A SEC

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you bind a graph?

fathom wadi
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well no I bind a macro which has a graph in the blueprint, because all i need is a bool return

real palm
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I need to do that for my stuff's. If I ever continue it...

fathom wadi
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then you can apply break logic in the macro and reuse it

real palm
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gotta complete some engine changes first.

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Care to share?

fathom wadi
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Not right now. I have half arsed code in place. But Im back on UE4 soon so I'll finish it up. Just took a month off to learn Blender but im almost done

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beware the ides of march

pearl elk
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awww man the creator of the Konami code died

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First it was copy, paste, cut guy now this...

fathom wadi
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I'm still not over when the TTL ran out for the guy who invented Ping

agile egret
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That was clever

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I actually googled "TTL ran out guy who created ping" thinking he setup an insane ttl before he died

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and it was somehow floating around the internet waiting to expire

fathom wadi
pearl elk
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woah and Clive Cussler too

dim ruin
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@jovial talon Hey man, was checking out voxel plugin. That shit is amazing. Great job!

jovial talon
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thx!

dim ruin
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I'll def be grabbing the pro when I've got some extra cash.

jovial talon
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๐Ÿ™‚

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Did you try Free already?

sage ermine
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yo yo yo

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went to browse and it's all like "free for 30 days"

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I thought it was all free now?

pearl elk
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free for UE4

sage ermine
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Right, so you gotta go through bridge?

pearl elk
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Thats how I did it, just login with my Epic account

sage ermine
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aw yeah

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so much beautiful concrete

dim ruin
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@jovial talon yes! I'm surprised how fast it performs. Physics and multiplayer in the pro is seriously tempting though

jovial talon
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You can already somewhat do multiplayer in free :)

dim ruin
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I had no idea that is what you were working on when you did that multiplayer test lol. It came out amazing

jovial talon
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Hehe

agile egret
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link?

dim ruin
agile egret
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oh that trash

jovial talon
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lol

agile egret
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xD

sage ermine
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how dare you sir

dim ruin
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ikr. ban him!

agile egret
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get off your knees guys

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it doesn't look good

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๐Ÿ˜›

dim ruin
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maybe not from where you're standing

agile egret
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damn, she got hit HARD

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that "full swing"

sage ermine
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DID YOU JUST ASSUME HER GENDER????

agile egret
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Sorry,
damn, it got HARD

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that "full swing"

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wait, what?

sage ermine
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signed, your local right wing heretic

fathom wadi
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I remember that episode of little house on the prairie. She deserved that slap so much.

sage ermine
fathom wadi
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I was thinking "Kill her.. kill the bitch. Get a bayonet, you have them in those times. Use that !"

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I wasn't, but she was played by a pretty good actress who made you hate her :p

sage ermine
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Man we don't need to know what tv you were watching in your 30's

agile egret
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@jovial talon I will want this for destructible terrain to go with my weather simulation xD

fathom wadi
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that was when we didn't have televisions. We had a mime artist or someone drew really fast with chalk on slate.

agile egret
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you mean like slate in ue4?

fathom wadi
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thats why they dont do live cartoons. terrible strain on the animators wrist

sage ermine
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Most of the animators I've known had strained wrists for other reasons

fathom wadi
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anime-tors.

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TFW when you think death is passing over you, and your time has come, but then you realise the heating is on a timer.

dim ruin
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@fathom wadi I figured out what I screwed up when I was recreating that project. God damn copy paste laziness. I had the editor module marked as a game module so the solution thought there was 2 games. Interesting find though: you can have multiple games inside a single solution without issues

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if there is ever some retarded reason to do so

sage ermine
fathom wadi
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no idea. modding support or something perhaps

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honestly I try not to learn as much as I can about Visual Studio

dim ruin
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probably safer that way

fathom wadi
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its like a toolbag of toolbags. you can keep delving into it like a goddamn fractal

dim ruin
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lol

north torrent
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You might catch coronavirus if you mess with Visual Studio too much.

fathom wadi
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yeah but you can code a fix

dim ruin
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thats just racist

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:p

north torrent
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That's just how I roll.

sage ermine
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@north torrent how you doin

agile egret
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^ oh you barely scratched the surface

fathom wadi
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it's more of a Coronamacro tbh

sage ermine
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you guys ok in your parts?

dim ruin
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You been hiding out indoors?

north torrent
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Well, I'm in the United States and it seems like small businesses are closing left and right. But other than that it seems fine over here.

pearl elk
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youre all welcome in my bunker if you can make it here

sage ermine
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really? I thought you were based in china?

fathom wadi
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pre-warmed with hermetically sealed farts Mons?

dim ruin
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oh snap, in the US. Looks like we're the racists apparently

north torrent
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I'm going to go back to China before the coronavirus hits the US though. Seems like it will be safer there now.

pearl elk
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I have enough food and water for the human resistance to make a come back

north torrent
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No surgical masks available in the US.

dim ruin
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sent them all overseas?

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lol

pearl elk
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thats what happens when you dont have public healthcare

north torrent
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They were all made in China.

fathom wadi
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I made my own from used coffee filters. That way I get to smell the coffee all the time and I'm fully aware of everything.

dim ruin
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just pee on it

sage ermine
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I put red bull in my coffee the other day

north torrent
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People bought them all up and can't get new shipments because they are only made in China.

sage ermine
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I could see sound for an hour

pearl elk
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the next minute I was just floating

agile egret
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actually all the hospitals bought them up, but yea, same reason

dim ruin
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As long as my hydro and internet stay up, I don't need to leave this mofo for months.

agile egret
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my sister is a nurse, she took a box xD

north torrent
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I have 60 surgical masks.

pearl elk
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why did I read that as an xbox

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slowly takes his xbox off his head

north torrent
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*throws an Xbox 360 at Mr. Olympus' head^

fathom wadi
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for no apparent reason, these little highlighted bits are defeating me on the outline.

pearl elk
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its obviously a pi rounding issue

fathom wadi
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it's times like this im glad its 3am and I can sing the littlest hobo theme tune

sage ermine
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/giphy round pie

fathom wadi
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it's all about the Tau in blender ๐Ÿ˜„

sage ermine
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speaking o blender

north torrent
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When the coronavirus gets to the US people are going to keep going to work, not see a doctor, and just spread that shit everywhere.

I'm just waiting for school to start again so I can go back to China and work.

sage ermine
pearl elk
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Im just gonna let it thin out the heard and kill whoevers left

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be like Alexander the Great all over again

north torrent
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The kangaroos?

pearl elk
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oh those were the days

fathom wadi
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@sage ermine Hardly realistic. I mean, its a spaceship. It should have a treadmill escalator. The future is lazy.

sage ermine
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is exercise for astronauts

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so their legs don't atrofy

fathom wadi
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ahh yeah. makes sense. Work those hams

pearl elk
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the future is lookin bright fellas, blonde babes everywhere

fathom wadi
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I used to love that when I was a kid. I used to sit upside on the couch and pretend I was a pig in space.

pearl elk
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your railing is gonna look whacky when its retracted in the ship

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skewif ๐Ÿ˜›

fathom wadi
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It's a soft-body physics bannister. Just slaps against the side of the ship like jelly

sage ermine