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Oh you're talking about hire someone
and I'm not even a full-time engineer
bruh :/ i guess i am not opening a game studio anytime soon then
I'm more of a designer, albeit senior and specialist
average salary in canada is $51,000/yr
You could probably get someone in Canada for 50k a year but they might not really be super experienced
yeah but one person cant make pubg2 :/
lol
PUBG is the kind of game that people spent millions making
yeah you have a long road ahead of you if you want to make pubg2 :)
haha
You can hire 2 in Spain for 50k xDD
can 2 guys make pubg 2 in spain?
no
you could probably hire more in vietnam or india :P
those two people are probably not worth hiring
because anyone who is will want market-rate
I should get my ass on that market then, damn
I always wonder, are those numbers before, or after taxes?
in watchdogs context, before before
Still the owner won't cover with 20k is more the cost for the company
because companies have to pay additional tax and costs before the employee sees anything
hm I guess germany must be operationg a bit different then with the taxes
they make money from somewhere or get investors
^
maybe lucky to get a loan from a bank
but for that you need to present quite a convincing business plan
anyone wanna invest in my studio? we are making PUBG 2. it will be like PUBG but way better.
or have a group of friends that just works on a project in their free time and make a big indie hit that sells for millions so they have money to work on more stuff
yeah hard pass
@hazy delta depends what taxes you mean you get 20k clear the company pays already part of taxes for you and is already discounted, from that 20k you pay per year percentage in taxes
any game pitch that starts with "we're making X, but better" will be dead on arrival ๐
especially when said game has multiple studios with an enormous headcount and fairly limitless funds to compete against, lol
well I get roughly 40k and a big chunk goes into taxes, but at the same time my company also pays the same amount of taxes for me on top of that.
I mean you don't need 2 devs PUBG was made by one guy ๐น
well there goes my life dream
technically they pay the first set of tax before you get your salary, then your taxes are paid from that
you sound young, why are you so eager to throw your dreams away lol
plenty of time to get around to doing cool shit
it just happens that the system has been cooked in such a way that it works out more or less even
Salaries are deductibles for companies, somewhat depending on jurisdiction though... so assuming the business makes revenue, they don't necessarily lose money for it
well yeah but I always wonder, if I go freelance, would I need to earn as much as I do now before taxes, or would I need to account for the money my employer pays on top of it aswell ๐ค
unless you're employing other people, no, as far as I'm aware it's only your taxes - but you would need to pay full social security / healthcare contributions
Make sure you play that indie dev game simulator before fund a company
I wouldn't quote me on that though
yeah no worries I won't just take advice like that blindly, just curious
Yeah you pay here a fixed social security cut per month about 400โฌ
Yeah it depends on your local legislation
lol that's half my rent, I wish taxes would be that low
I have to pay some extra stuff for myself as a freelancer that the company would normally pay if I was an employee
but on the flipside, I get a lot of tax deductions because I work from home
haha my taxes are also way higher than that ๐
I think just the health insurance comes out more
I can literally deduct parts of my apartment's rent from my taxes, some electricity costs, internet costs, etc. - so it's actually somewhat beneficial in the end :P
actually I pay over twice of that per month in taxes... I think it's closer to 3 times actually
a tad, yes
okay well like i said if you guys want to make a game studio together, let me know. we can make cool games like PUBG 2 and stuff.
if it weren't for the taxes I'd be living the dream ๐ฆ
400โฌ is the minimum base per month if you get even 0โฌ per month as freelance
Then you pay more based on income etc
Here is no % as in UK based in your income
well I guess without the benefits from those taxes it'd be a bad dream to life in, but right now I don't actually benefit from that directly anyway so
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
oh okay that makes more sense then
I'm pretty sure we have this step system where after a certain amount of money that you earn you pay a higher %
And don't meet the 400โฌ per month to cover the minimuns can be a problem
healthcare and social security contributions are fixed %, but income tax is variable
Note you should add 100 there of third party
income tax has 4 bands, IIRC
@hazy delta it's called progressive taxation and yeah some countries have it :)
pretty sure Finland has it for example
my dad once got a 0.50โฌ rise in his hourly rate which resulted in a fat 10โฌ at the end of the month than's to the higher tax % ๐
you move into a higher tax bracket if you earn over a certain % etc.
not actual numbers, but close
Here the health care and social security is included on the 400โฌ base
I mean in Germany if you're on minimum wage it'll be a lot less than 400 euros
By the way the health care here don't cover teeth etc does there?
mine does
Public one here don't
there are no public ones here, just private companies who get an amount of money determined by your income
pretty sure it doesn't cover it fully, as I know quite a few people that paid a lot of money for teeth
it covers any necessary dental work
lucky you then
I mean it's all down to which insurer you pick
their definition of necessary is not necessarily the same as yours though
they usually outline it in the terms somewhere
gives them something to point to later down the line, hehe
same with glasses, that's debatably even more nessecary and I don't get a cent for them
But this 400โฌ we pay to the public system can cover fake boobs from individuals that go and claim their body shape causes them a mental disorder so get these for free
one of the reasons why I'm saving up for laser eyes ๐
nice I should go to spain and get a boob job
I also want laser eyes to burn things with
that pun was very much intended btw, you're welcome Zeb
Basically as the glasses, just these are under 100
well mine would've cost 600โฌ, but luckily I got a friend who got me a 75% discount ๐
gonna wear them for as long as I possibly can
or until I get superman eyes
oh yeah I was talking about glasses
The hell what kind of glasses cost 600 today
well the frame alone cost 100 or 150โฌ and the glasses are extra thin which costs extra with my eyesight... ๐ฆ also they automatically darken in sunlight
stuff like that adds up, but ever since I had that, I just can't go without
since sunglasses would cost pretty much the same and wouldn't be as convenient
anyone want $10 off coupon for synty studios shop?
i just bought bundle on humble bundle and dont wanna waste more money
actually
I don't like these crap sunglasses they let me buy, must be flat and I like the curved ones
I've been thinking about buying their 'simple dungeons' pack for a while now @turbid willow ๐
people still use autoexposure I see
@hazy delta doesn't that annoy you when you walk inside and it's a bright day?
it has to take a while to adjust
also, how do you drive with those in dark when there's incoming traffic? ๐ค
the ones few decades ago were super slow to adjust
didn't even know they still make those
how the heck do I escape fullscreen ? ;0-0
could be windows 10 dunno for sure
square widget doing nothing ;0
thx anyone
nvm all got it
ty bing o_+0
F11
k ty~!
Shift+F11 too
heh
@stiff crystal well for one, the glasses don't shut down to 0% opacity. They adjust pretty quickly too so mostly I don't even notice that they're dimmed until someone points it out.
They also don't adjust from any light, it has to be UV light so it pretty much only reacts to the sun. And since glass is usually a good UV filter they pretty much don't adjust while driving anyway.
sad boop
@median wraith You reported that one ? https://issues.unrealengine.com/issue/UE-88686
I think he was struggling with that the other day
I wanted to gloat over and praise Hev at the same time, for the bug was there since version, where grass system was introduced and everyone, working with it, bumped into into it at some point, yet it took half a decade for the first brave hero to emerge and report it ๐
praise our hero Hevedy ๐ ๐
@bold fulcrum yup both and 2 more
and he did all of that on his birthday!
holy hell, win10 forced an update down my throat, even though I disabled updates until the 20th of feb.
just went "starting update in 3...2...1.."
thanks for the tips
jesus, kids these days are way more tech savvy as it seems
This is just clever way of keeping kids off them discords.
Lovely
that doesn't look healthy
must be a cyber attack by those pesky 5 year old discord hackers
lol wut
Did we have a video of Mr Sweeney at DICE summit or is it not released online yet?
Just not sure how much I can trust these journos ๐ฌ
I mean look at how they twisted this article to make it all about their coverage of Blizzard completely ignoring the point of the talk
heh IGN
Unfortunately they are the ones with the coverage of DICE
Every media outlet is doing it though because ofcoarse the concept of the artists having their own politics is alien to games journos
"Why dont they want to make games with our political views only?"
"Its not like we dont shovel them in every bloody article we write!"
I just want to know what Tim said without the running commentary
MonsMedia the most perfect Mons media in the MonsUniverse
Blue or red pill?
Rainbow pill
Purple pill
I think we've got them all now
oh Rei is alive
๐ฑ
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Wikipedia now have an AI that auto edits the old articles
Hevedy is alive
finally don't need people to write wrong info
๐
Somebody came back!
euler angles:
- everybody knows them
- boring
- can get you into a gimball lock
- euler doesn't need even more publicity
instead use quaternions:
- mysterious
- nobody knows how they work
- instant empathy from other developers
- the inventor etched them under a bridge
190
this needs one of those Virgin Euler Angles vs Chad Quaternions things
I used to say it just like Ruler but with an E but apparently thats wrong ๐ฆ
(because its not English)
I once worked with an American customer who had a German name
I was allowing him to first time hear his name being spoken in the original language it was coming from
(and he was 50<)
imagine that, after 50 years hearing your name first time correctly
try Nguyen, one of the most common vietnamese last names
I suspect almost nobody except those who actually speak vietnamese know how to pronounce that lol
are there vietnamese people so far away from the bloodline that they forgot how to speak it out?
I would not be surprised tbh
newgen ๐
it's more like a nasally pronounced Huen and even that's probably somewhat wrong
But this reminds me about that topic of people having Starbucks names because its easier then trying to explain their actual name
(my ex is vietnamese)
My name is TIMEWISE hard to pronounce, because the way the name is spoken is not existing anymore in the language
so a CURRENT SPEAKER of my language, cant pronounce my name correctly
Samwise ๐ฎ
which is SUPER annoying
unrealise
i had so many names in class
lol
You can be my tater baker
the best is, if you have teachers who know you like 5-6 years
and they STILL speak it wrong
I am so happy that i am now just existing in my own universe and got a nickname ;)
when i hear my name now, i just think my mother calls me
my last name is as English as it gets and people still cant say it right or spell it lol
cant even imagine how difficult it must be for others ๐
given that its like "wrong" how my name is spoken, i cant blame them
they say it like they read it
english pronounciation is weird
in finnish letters are always pronounced the same way
regardless of their order or what comes after
News in kazakhstan language, seems links diesel engine starts.
This is actually a Kazakh tongue twister
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I know enough to be dangerous lol
Kazakh probably uses gluttal stops which is why it sounds like that :P
my friend has a kazakh wife
3 kids with her
and he is daily sitting here drinking and smoking weed ;)
no no, he is running away from his wife
oh dear
he does his job, he is doing his housework, he is doing activity with the kids
but his wife has no ability to link with him on a mental level
after all those years he still thinks he is like just a 2nd person in the home, not like actually a linked persona
and he gets crazy on that
which is sad, cause he is very good at that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rvj-_imxu8 look at all hose dislikes ๐ญ
Climate activists in Europe target meat; how soon until it hits America? PETA associate director Ashley Byrne weighs in. #Tucker #FoxNews
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I like how Fox News got that topic before I have, cause I didnt heard from that
there's only 300?
someone floats an idea and Fox posts it as fact
something similar happened with finnish politics too
OH WOW, HORRIBLE
some random politician mentioned some thing off hand and BAM Fox posted it as fact
Im in Australia and will gladly send cheap meat ๐
WE ARE ALL DYING
i hope meat tax will come
yes please Mons
well it's still a stupid tax
WE CANT AFFORD OUR HEALTHCARE ANYMORE!!!!!!
The meat production is probably already subsidized by the government or EU anyway
oh wait a minute.............. ;)
so technically a tax would just reduce the subsidy :P
I got a nice stamp fresh from Wuhan, jk
send me a few sheep, a goat, ostrich, a few kangaroos, and a koala
@foggy path yes. thats not good. subsidy to something unhealthy and disgusting.
some vegans eat meat
40 cent per kg is like unnoticeable
it's not about the amount, it's that it's trying to takle a problem the wrong way
well, yes and no
camel milk is meant to be superior
@deep glen the pirate ostrich?
the problem is that german government is kinda incompetent on that topic, if you wanna know more about this check on the farmer strike topic
You wouldnt want to work as a file clerk for PETA would you, cuz then youd deal with PETA files all day ๐ฎ
jesus I'd die
so anything that vaguely gets into something somehow effecting all this is fine
there was an observation here in the netherlands, where they tested how much profit grocery stores make when people weight their fruit and vegi's inside the plastic or paper bag. it was about 300k euro in a year.
just because the slight weight of the bags add up
TIL Luos is from the netherlands
why you guys didnt looked over to germany?
interesting
40 cents over a year is a shitload
we have law for this since forever
the plastic bags for vegetables here are definitely very thin and flimsy, I would not expect that to weigh much at all
but then again the scales are very sensitive
because dutch politicians are morons and prefer to copy the US
please do
hey so you do operate like germany ๐
:p
seriously, you dont know that German Local Governments are stealing from netherlands?
im not surprised about the stealing part
your local authorities are a reference for germans, we actually send our local government workers by BUS over to you so that they learn there
lol
a friend of mine is one of those
and he is in love with how netherlands do their things
he couldn't stop talking about after his trip
its btw the same friend with the kazakh woman ;)
I visit Netherlands a lot 8-D
one good point I heard made was animal poo is actually amazing fertilizer for plants, checkmate
somehow i just dont see much of the country per trip
@pearl elk ok you touched the topic ;) lets explain
its even better: you can use that shit to bundfle CO2
you hear right
netherlands has its locations hehe
those farmers can actively reduce CO2 in a dimension that is better than forest
no joke you hear that right
and guess how many governments are giving them actually monetary advantage for helping reduce CO2?
You are right! ZERO! :D
that was under the line the MAIN POINT of the farmer strike here in germany
well theyre trying their hardest to get us to pay for water that we store on our land
they could be a vital part of the actual reducing of the CO2, but they need something monetary to enforce the complete companies to do so
because apparently the government owns the rain ๐
our governments are just too incompetent to realize that
(its bullshit really they just want the water for almond farmers funded by you know who)
never forget:
Governments are not evil, they are just really really really really stupid
and easily influenced by money and promises
the world already makes far more almonds than it needs, we dont need more nuts
we THINK its pushed
but often
they just do stupid things without any external motivation
see, 95% of the planets are idiots
i am counting since 41 years, and i am very sure about this number
@bleak thicket those farmers can actively reduce CO2 in a dimension that is better than forest
- how?
Californias drought wouldnt be so bad if you didnt have stupid almond farmers gobbling up the water
the area they use for this CO2 bundle through shit, is more effective as a tree of the same dimension
when I was about 22-ish years old, the prime minister and whatever other party they co-oped with both had kids going to high school that year. exactly the amount of years they studied at highschool was the amount of years schoolbooks where free :p
its like a FACTORY of CO2 reduction
i cant explain those details tho, but its also hard work
AND
you get energy out of it
just to add up
@bleak thicket animal agriculture is more envi. harming. you cant change that
how
grass actually needs very little water to grow, fruit trees on the other hand
but the CO2 reduction that you get through those methods would already make it less harmful in a magnitude of dimension
so
now
lets only eat grass.
still
not
well cows eat grass, we eat cows, omnomnom
see, the problem is that why should someone do it, if they dont get anything from it?
you can reduce the amount of polution of livestock by actually making their habitats smaller instead of free-range-ing em, which is a nice conundrum. will we do whats better for the planet, or better for the livestock.
...............................
LISTEN
stop thinking like some kind of crfazy scientist
science is not the point
MONEY is
MONEY says, they dont get a SHIT if they use the SHIT of their cows to reduce CO2
NO ONE GIVES THEM ANYTHING
@deep glen did you just say even less space for animals?
they would do it, have the extra work, have to spare extra space on their land
and they wouldn't get anything for it
think about
thats why no one is doing it
its better for the environment.
and thats why cows are VERY VERY bad for the environment
sadly, not better for the animals
in short, not an option
yeah but they have families and stuff
they have created a company
that needs all the resources it has
to make enough money
tax is a good way to reduce consumption
if they start making the extra work for reducing CO2 they get broke
simple as that
tax barely works unless you are hitting so hard the poor people cannot afford it altogether
well its all about the notion that you need to maximum profits at the cost of everything else. You can farm in an economical manner if there were incentives for not being a complete jackass about it
instead no, free range chook eggs will always be more expensive than factory farmed
Taxes can work in reverse too... we have some of the oldest cars in EU here because our car taxes are so high. Good luck reducing traffic CO2 emissions :P
you cant be the one doing it right when all others do it wrong, in the economics
that is
in all green plans
you go the other way around
and give people bonus for reducing CO2
but
no one gives that to farmers
@foggy path you from Finland? ๐ค
@fluid bloom yes lol
that reduces your CO2 output
then you get a monetary compensation
if you are a farmer who uses the shit of the cows to reduce CO2
you get nothing
THAT is the problem
and that needs to get fixed, and we would see SIGNIFICANT reduction
Is it really that simple Getty
a farmer who uses cow poo instead of fertilizer saves money in not having to buy fertilizer
well its the BIGGEST CO2 source
its not enough
its stiill more expensive
to do it with the CO2 Bundling
as it takes more time
and more space
Right
Yes its super simple, the more line breaks you use the more arguments you win cuz you bump what everyone else is saying off the page
especially the SPACE part
yay I wrote a page of text for my master's thesis
I mean time to lobby for something like that then
yeah sure
as said:
the farmers needs to get money for bundling CO2
and that is the main reason why they strike
cause they WANNA do the right thing
many farmers are already doing it
but they competition gets harder through that
they try, they try their best
and then the government just KICKS them in the ass big
it makes you like really angry
BTW: There is no "other side" to this
or just make animal agriculture a luxury again. problem solved
there is no big company who wants that this happens to gain from that
meat once per month. end.
its PURE STUPIDITY
95% co2 saved
isn't industry the biggest producer of co2?
my other friend is btw Aquaponics expert
and starts building soon the first aquaponics environments commercially
the single biggest producer of co2 in Finland is one steel mill I think
lets all just eat deep fried worms
ive had spider, grasshopper, few kinds of beetles, few kinds of worms. if prepared and seasoned well its not bad at all
I suppose it doesnt help that the US likes to deep fry and caramelize everything, too much red meat isnt a good idea but you can have fish, chicken, lamb which is smaller poritons
See, Mons, how many suddenly became experts in farming ?
Yes well as a beef farmer Im just watching laughing ๐
how do you deep fry butter
does the butter become a liquid inside the batter because of the heat?
@pearl elk In US?
"Fried Jesus", of Dallas, Texas, invented deep-fried butter
of course the inventor is called Fried Jesus
that is so American
I actually used to work in a fast food chicken joint, man I hated that oil, it go into everything. Youd go home and your room would smell like a vat of fat it was gross
yup
yeah, ActiFry was brought from heaven! :D
Mons, local snackbar actually pays for their staffs shampoo/conditioner because of that
we had rotisseries which are more healthy than oven baking chicken so that was alright but the deep fryers do not recommend. They should def tax that stuff
not to mention the oil is probably months old
and at KFC they use that stank ass oil to make the gravy
speaking about polution and what not
I hate kids who just toss out batteries on the street
???
Who does this luos?
when mp3 players became a thing, they often used regular aaa batteries. and kids would just throw em away.
I think i still have about 500 photos of em for an art project I did back in the day

Least theyve made an effort with those phone recycling boxes now, that stuff could have become a real problem
It would be a very high crime here in germany, battery collection is a thing since my youth
half of the photos come from berlin and karlsruhe :p
anyone tried a cat?
but i am confused
I draw the line at generic pets
i never saw a MP3 player with battery, you probably talk about walkmans
the old ones (often very cheap ones) just had batteries back in the day
Gaming is actually one of the largest contributors to electronics energy use globally so if someone is a Vegan gamer tell em they have to play board games made from recycled product from now on ๐
i cant recall that, but i wasn't that deep into getting the first mp3.....
Netflix............. its Netflix
;)
Wise words, Sir.. wise Words. Gaming heats up the planet ๐ญ
Think green before reaching for that exe!
Its certainly way better than it used to be but yeah those powerhouse PCs chew plenty of juice
@pearl elk vegan doesnt mean you have to stop doing everything
vegan only means not eating animal food
well everyone has their balance of how they contribute to the solution
how do you contribute to saving animals?
taxing meat would unfairly disadvantage a few
Comedian on stage: "Who is vegetarian here?" ........ "Ah I see, too weak to lift your hand"
I donate 20-30 trees a month, and dont own a car.
I own land and plant trees, I dont kill any of the animals
If I dead today because the smell of my own feet, give me tomorrow for San Valentino Rossi flowers
Small trees
right now we have rare possums in our trees, so Im directly helping save a species from extinction ๐
but sure, judge me for eating meat
I eat eggs too that my chickens lay, we dont force em to lay eggs or anythin they just do it so we eat their waste
Except on the 4th hev
walks away remembering the whole pig we roasted last year
soon we will be seem by the society alike terrorists
vegan only means not eating animal food
@zinc matrix
well I don't eat my cat food. Does it mean I'm vegan?
hehe
after we got rid of the cats the fruit trees have been difficult to get fruit off since all the birds get in there but we are okay with that cuz we'd rather not kill birds to eat fruit all the time ๐
lol
I'm actually a lil concerned the resale value of my car could suddenly drop like a stone
I donโt like soy
because it's a bit of a gas guzzler...
EU passes some legislation and bam rip resale value lol
Soy sauce is good but, soy bacon no
we don't have cars that work with soy ?
sorry for the @. First time I try the mobile version quote feature :O
If you do position yourself as one caring for animals, yet not ready to drop meat, watch dominion on youtube and spend some time to research into buying products from suppliers, whos farms you have seen. Simple as that.
We clear far more land here in Australia for people than we do for beef cattle
can we start eating people now?
Livestock is a problem though, like how do we stop livestock but by eating
XD we should eat the poop as well
highest extinction rate on the planet
youre welcome to come over and spread your veganism, doesnt do shit ๐
We will pay a tax per poop kg soon probably @deep glen
40 cents/kg
@bold fulcrum ew. i watched ominion. its disgusting ๐ฎ so much death and pain
Where I live atm it used to be a whaling town, thankfully we dont do that anymore but then it all became farms but the farms are slowly turning into suburbs
ominion ?
Farms do alot more than people think for wild birds and the like compared to suburbs where people own cats, dogs, motor vehicles etc which all contribute to wide spread death of animals, far higher than the consumption of red meat world wide
Cats are brutal man
omnomion
my uncle made a good living doing cat enclosures
I'm total lost now
@pearl elk my oldest cat was brutal when she was younger. every morning we'd find the garden full of dead mice or other creatures (including a heron, and a massive rat) all without their heads, because she only ate the brains and gave the rest to us
I think she was a war-survivor in her previous life, because she eats everything
I think size ratio is the only thing that stands between me being eaten by my cat.
lol
"Is this ripe already?" lick
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my grandma actually set this up, she got an award for it and everythin
her yard was filled with rescue animals, big grey kangaroos jeez some of those were huge
so many animals get hit by motor vehicles its insane
If I ever get the money to get an actual company building, it will be also parallel a dog shelter
then i can make dog food company expense ;)
If I could afford it Id certainly take in pound animals
my mom did back in the day. at some point we had 14 cats walking about
i got the advantage that i am in a city, so i can take in help from the locals
still have two left
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@bold fulcrum
yeah unfortunately cats and dogs dont always know and go after native animals. We are constantly telling the dogs off for trying to mess with the sleepy lizards
you would think the dog getting bit on the face and jumping around with a lizard attached to it would be a warning but nope
lol well they do listen to commands most of the time being sheep dogs, they just go silly over some things
Youtube donkey played titled deer game to qualify for EVO week.
dunk store https://dunkeyscastle.com/
The beagle we used to have loved echindas, he'd come back with battle scars and its like welp...
Luos - Yeah my cat does the same. When he hunts birds its always the head missing
Granted I live out in the rural area so the 'damage' he does isnt terrible for the bird population like cities ๐
I don't know if my mom's cats would even know what to do with a bird
They are kinda dumb... one of them just randomly decided to jump out of the fourth story window one day
:D
Usually they just play with them till they die / sometimes heart attacks
(he was fine despite the fall)
I think my house has eaten more birds than our cats did, for some reason they are forever flying into the windows killing themselves
very reflective windows can do that
Rebuild the navmesh.
yeah when youre out there in the sun all you see is the reflection of trees
If that were a regular problem at my house I would put up some sun blinds or something ๐
lol death
I've noticed birds sometimes use their beaks to knock on my apartment windows
it's probably a sign that I should clear the dead insects from between the glass panels...
pretty sure the birds are trying to get to them lol
youre just doing your part ๐
we have these cool little blue wrens, now the cats are gone they come right in near you
The way I see it, my property just breeds survivor birds. If they are too dumb or slow to avoid the big grey cat in the grass then thats just Darwinism at work.
Its not like he blends in.
Best birds I've seen were albatross near Seychelles. Things are huge, always look weared and damaged. And they don't give a heck about humans. You can safely come close and poke one.
lol then you get some rambo bird which comes in and beats the crap out of the cat
Ive seen the wedge tailed eagles here swoop in and take out hawks, damn thats impressive to watch
Every year theres these birds that will swoop him and scream birdy murder at him. He doesnt do a lot of hunting when those nest near the house.
its funny there are little birds here which befriend the sheep, goats and cows. They'll just hang around on their back, tease em n stuff
we have some magpies and ravens here who do not like cats
i sometimes help their kids back into trees or onto rooftops
their parents poke my head
#worthit
Yeah, every so often I hear of someone getting knocked off a bike or something because they get swooped by a YOLO Magpie
hits em in helmet or whatever
lol Ive had that when I lived in the city, the ones out here are actually okay with us. They only swoop the dogs occasionally cuz they chase em off but the little birds stir up the magpies but theres like an order, magpies are under crows and galahs mainly cuz they travel in huge packs and are noisy AF. We get some really big sulphur crested cockatoos here they are pretty impressive oh we have some owls too, so many birds lol
@bold fulcrum you wanna educate a diet server with me?
@zinc matrix I got shawarmized just yesterday, so I obtained immunity to veganism for some time.
i hate it
I hated it too, but had nothing better in stash.
he basically doesnt eat anything with a shadow
Have we gotten to talking about eating birds yet
Im just waiting for that moment to swoop in
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I tried to by destroying your legs but it didnt work
Hevedy you just got too much game bro
HevGame the ultimate game of Hevs
Hot chocolate or cocoa?
frocochino
Frappuccino
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try n dimensional arrays
multidimensional arrays
the thing about 2D arrays is that you usually have it in "reverse"
eg. array[y][x]
and not array[x][y]
that always throws me off a little
:P
just got my final tax return thingy. of 2019
Im getting 1337,- euro back
lol nice
@foggy path nah i know it
my problem is kind of about nesting loops probably
because I have to go through all inventory slots
and then from there check if there are 1-3 previous slots empty (for multi slot item) and of course sometimes these previous slots are not e.g. 1,2,3 but theyre on next bar, so next to 1 will be 10,12,13 as well
@deep glen => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet
they didn't even made an official pivot painter for blender
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tim is still ceo though
@signal citrus thats what confuses me. Is this guy in the position because he impressed Tim with his need for redemption after working at sweat shops and abusing human beings for wage slavery purposes?
Mind you, with Tencent on board, I guess thats all moot now ๐
wiki says tencent has 40% and tim >50%
but he is replacing the previous president
mark rein is still vp
its a shame that one day there will be a complete change of management, and the Epic we all know and love will be a shell, abused by the corporate vultures circling the skies
We need Tim to do a "Willy Wonka" and give me the company. I can run it from the Great Glass Elevator above Fortnite Island.
now that he has kids, maybe he'll not go into loot boxes aimed at making them addicted on gambling
Tim talked about removing lootboxes in his keynote
specifically saying that the industry shouldn't become Las Vegas
yeah he seemed to really not like them
who would except profiteers tbh?
more profiteers
True gamers should despise them
heck
lets see what happen with Tim when Tencent don't like his points of view or something
so many gamers say that Valve model is better than Fortnite ๐ฎ
I dont go by what gamers say, they are generally stupid
lol
oh no did I say that out loud. Twitter army will get me
what is Valves model?
there is no model
TF2/CS:Go/Dota2 gambling boxes
ugh
But Marc, the true test to see if you're deserving of being given Epic is if you don't want it.
Damn I lose. Good day sir !
DotA 2 has boxes with items inside that are described as "Astronomically rare"
lol
@fathom wadi that percentage still higher than the dating apps
wait no
I like the fortnite approach, just have everything you want available to buy and maybe random gambling lootboxes on top
Cosmically Rare
my bad
Non-Escalating Drop Rates
The following rarities are non-escalating and drop at a set rate,Cosmically Rare: 1/250000 (0.0004%)
woot, I didn't knew the odds ๐
Fortnite seems ok as a system to me. I never felt the need to buy any MTX, even though there was that time it was uncool in school to be a default. Path of Exile gets it right too. Ubisoft to some degree but they are sneaking shadier practices in through the backdoor
Fortnite battle pass : kids feel forced to grind to get all the rewards ! look at the Valve model were the only way to really get levels in their TI Battle Pass is to buy them
sounds like your typical gacha waifu droprate ๐ค
much better
I loke the PoE model of MTX, but the prices are bullshit
but I'm pretty sure we had that discussion already ๐
PoE didn't have lootboxes before, last time I played
shame they went that way too
now I want to see Rocket League remove theirs (if they didn't already)
In the TI there a shitton of tiers
like I said, I wouldn't mind the lootboxes if they'd be optional, but sadly the stuff you get in them in PoE is exclusive to them
they gave one box for free and I got a MTX effect for Fire Dash ๐
near perfect luck ๐
nice
Adam Sussman as president 
@hazy delta prices are probably a bit high. But then as game devs, we buy models for more than that. In that respect, it would be actually awesome if you got to keep the FBX of the MTX we buy, so you can either a. use them in other compatible games, or b. use then in non-commercial artwork (such as renders for fan pages)
I dont if is bad thing or good thing
@fathom wadi not sure if I agree with that. differnt use cases and therefore different validation for prices. they make a model and sell it a bunch of times, so you get to look nice. In game dev you buy a model and use it for your games so you might make some money off it yourself, it's like an investment in your game and not just some vanity item.
I'd be happy if I could use a bought MTX more than once...
you usually pay more for models that are for commercial purposes. But there is no difference to me. MTX are just asset selling in a locked environment. I don't even see them as anything but extra-gaming peripherals for fashion victims. It would be nice if I could use them though.
Not to say I dont have any MTX. I do. But only because I wanted to give GGG some money
I find it hard to are if models are too expensive or not
I just think in term of "do I buy it or not"
I think "can I model it myself?" and then I quit and move onto something completely different :p
just starting to learn modelling after avoiding it. And some of the models I see are just insane and I wouldn't even try them. Especially when you can see there is 3-4 months work in them
yeah for game assets it's easy. "Can I do this myself in less time than x=(price/hourly rate)?" if the answer is no you buy it and then never use it and abandon the project a week later
I just re-topo'd my entire mesh after I had rigged and texture painted it. So I had to re-rig and re-texture it. Things like that I hate, but then I refactor things in code all the time.
reminds me that I still have to re-topo a whole car, but I have no idea how detailed I want to go ๐ฆ
please implement this yesterday
HevGI! When?
gottakeep coding these games tryna get on patreon
@bold fulcrum when i see the light at the end of the tunnel
what if it's a train light?
is there such thing as a bad UV layout if nobody else sees it? ยฌ_ยฌ
no
then I shall move on from this unholy mess
question
Blenders auto-unwrap is a bit naff
is the same cyberpunk 80 and these 80 sci fi ?
question. I dont understand the question.
to much question in question Hev
These years 80s style with purple and lines is the same as if we name cyberpunk made in the 80s ?
ahh yeah its like retro cyberpunk with a heavy 80's flavour
80's weren't purple
it's a bit glam for my liking but I grew up in the 80's so I get nostalgia from it in a way. But Blade Runner was made in the 80's and felt grittier than any of it bar a few scenes
I guess there is a level of cyberpunk that is for the general audience, then there is the different variants for different sub-genres. Johnny Pneumonic is what I consider the mainstream style, but you can go as far as crazy things like Tetsuo and beyond. Even Neuromancer was quite heavy on the machine symbiosis factor and a good chunk of that is floating around as an electronic consciousness so to speak
Yeah I want some on purpose 80s style
just didn't know how to name such thing
ins't something I like, but is absurd enough
ala blood dragon
its a very stylized version of it tbh. If you were around in the 80's, it wasn't that clean as its represented. People were poor, clothes were handed down to siblings or people down the street. What they represent as the 1980's now is purely from pop culture images such as Miami Vice or Scarface etc.
there was a lot more brown clothing and furniture around left over from the 1970's too. And wood panelling. And chipped wallpaper
Haven't seen a positive number since hours:
I wonder if it's not just formatting error somewhere in code ๐
Probably not, just the dependency tracking is not resolved fully when it pops the first number.
abs() and bug solved
lol, yea, though it will then just start to increment
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hero = submarine which grinds sandwiches
dammit Github don't allow me to host a web from a private repo
Initialization in Modern C++. https://t.co/wiGaFf090r
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TL;DR: microsoft integrates IL2Spy into visual studio so you can decompile managed dll's to c# easily
lol
Me, browsing this channel even though I can only code in blueprints: โ๏ธ
Me, wishing I was a plumber
That certainly would have been a better career path.
Me in this server even though i stopped pursuing game dev and only use the engine to show my students the usefulness of digital logic
Curious what you guys think https://twitter.com/deathclonic/status/1228092780012068865
If @Steam had something similar to @Xbox game pass where you could just try out games for a week or month or whatever, do you think it would improve indie game sales or game sales in general?
I just want a service with a library as big as the one that steam has where I can pay 10โฌ a month any play whatever they have on offer
steam kind of does have that already. the refund system, but you only get 2 hours :/
I think having some kind of a demo system would improve sales for sure
I don't like using the refund system for demoing because it seems like one day they'll be like "oh you abused the system no refund for you"
although I'm noticing more games are offering some kind of demos lately
Yeah demos are great. But they don't get the game promotion the same way a subscription does
demos can be bad for sales too, as they often show up the shit as well as the shine. Or make you realise the hype was real and you didn't really want to play it in the first place. Or the game is so shallow, that 2 hours covers everything.
You could argue that just gets rid of the bad releases but then it will also promote the first demo levels being the good ones, and the rest are post-sale so don't matter.
Oooh. thats a good idea for my game ๐
So is it just me or are widgets one time use?
Why Unreal?!
i just discovered the 2 best features of landscapes tools and now i cant use them together
@potent sail just you. I mean, some are, but usually a widget is meant to be used multiple times with ease.
Weird stuff
#widgetslivesmatter
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This is episode 45 of my unreal engine 4 beginner tutorial series, in today's episode we go over an introduction to using user interface widgets to display text, images and more onto the HUD... having said that you'll gain the fundemental knowledge required for creating user i...
@potent sail
i mean you can tho, remove from parent
I'll take a look documentation on widgets is surprisingly limited
once you get the hang of the dynamic nature of widgets, you will be re-using everything. just giving them different vars to spawn with etc.
yeah to be honest i think I one time widgets as well, especially non hud ones
just send them the variables they need everytime they come up, usually isnt much anyways...
nothing wrong with doing that tbh. I always say if it works it works. I just get in the habit of content management style development so over-do it a bit too
I remember when I was first doing a CMS style menu, I did a self-contained menu that used internal pages. It was at that point I knew i'd fudged up ๐
I imagine avoiding "get all of class" blocks are best for optimisation
not so much avoiding them, but using them at the right times, and if you are in C++, with the right filters.
here am I listening to metal at 2am
@meager sorrel it looks artistic
me too
thanks haha, it's actually not mine though.
ive spent 16h on coding easy feature.. well it wasnt so easy..
oh
16h of programming nested 2d loops ffs
good for inventory
oh
1,2,3,4,5,
6,7,8,9,10
well I canโt even get this to work in order
e.g. i would need to write a code that checks if 3,4,8,9 arenot taken
idk man blueprints confussing to me
same
maybe ask in #blueprint
ok
ok I have no idea why but no oneโs responding
and also I posted this on reddit and it got downvoted
oh
im soo tired
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she looks like shes coming here
anyone done the setup for a steam page? I have to add 5 tags. I have 4. Any additional tag that I try to add gives me a "there was a problem adding your tag" error.
Theres enough Bond movies with die in the title to make it a spinoff franchise
whos the bond?
ah
is there a preferred plugin for rigging with Blender? I get the feeling im better off just making one from scratch and retargetting it as best I can
it looks to be a mannequinn in blender with export options
but theres rigify too, that will need retargeting
thats kind of a big deal though, maya style bones aren't y forward like blender
yeah rigify simple rig may as well be just a standard rig though. Its the advanced rig that seems to be used more with rigify for the IK stuff
I hate all this crap tbh. Can't wait for the send to unreal plugin
the send to unreal will help with rigs?
I read a bunch of stuff about how Blender FBX isn't even that good for purpose
Im not sure initially Inheritus but there is another part to it too
Kaye Vassey said it was two plugins so maybe one is for skeletal
yeah I actually dont mind it
all the naming convention stuff could be handled better though. If you setup Vertex Groups that happen to co-incide with bone names, they get over-written by the bone vertex groups. Which means you end up with two sets of VGs that have different naming conventions. It seems silly.
jeez all these Bioware vets are joining this Wizards of the Coast outfit Archetype. Could be interesting
Yeah WotC must be raking it in since the battle pass
not that they weren't before
they are the kings of "fleece"
It fits though, like it makes sense for them to kinda go home in a manner of speaking
Dunno if you have ever tried to keep up with Magic The Gathering products, but it's vicious.
nah, Ive played abit here and there but I try not to get into those sorts of things. Im more into DnD if anything
They also did Netrunner too
thats a good thing. I had to stop. It became obvious that unless I was willing to go all in, I was just wasting money and time
It does kind of scare me to think Dragon Age 4 is in the hands of who fills in the blanks from there tbh. Inquisition is in my all time greats list
im sure it will get royal treatment tho
I preferred Balders Gate to Dragon Age tbh
Baldurs Gate was a proper rpg though. Dragon Age Inquisition was more of an RPG-lite. Not much in the way of consequences, not too many path choices change the outcome in any major way, etc. Just a romp ๐
This could be like a Respawn moment for them, still under a big publisher but with the autonomy they need to make better games
I wonder if thats even some sort of contractual obligation for publishers, like after a time these veterans so no hey wait we want this in writing.
I know this isn't really the place for it but I am designing a video game and have a current concept I am throwing out in survey form to see what the masses thinks. If you are willing to take it and/or share it that would be great. Shouldn't take longer than 5 min. https://forms.gle/9kX81zcBvNybqx1e9
Sounds like a very ambitious project
I'm kind of wondering if you'll get any useful feedback from that form though... the answers are just going to 100% depend on the type of person who answers it. It won't really give you anything objective imo
sup, I'm new, taking a course on how to use UE4 : )
Hi new, Ive been using UE4 for a millennia, since before the sands of time started through the hour glass
As a great man once said "Stay on target. We're too close. Stay on target. Loosen up!"
if you want to get anything done, mute this channel as your first step ๐
lol
Wait there is more than one channel?
fair enough proceeds to mute

So I rigged my character. And there is one vert refuses to move. It's in a vertex group, but it just refuses to move when I pose. I almost respect it's will.
delete it
Add a custom c++ code to move it.
its ok I found the problem. Sneaky thing had ended up in a completely irrelevant vert group
just had to cycle through them and see which one had it. Guess I could have use python for that if I cared enough to learn that stuff but meh ๐
is it too late to retopologize
how did i miss the rigging convo... oh god... that thing... when i started ue4, mixamo exported to ue4, halfway thru me making my enemies they dropped the support , i was left with half enemies with ue4 rig half with mixamo... spent so much time learning rigging/retargeting/python scripts for blender
i still suck at it
its just not simple, ever. and then you managed to get all the bones right, somehow the UV got messed up. Man.
but theres this, havent had the time to mess with it yet https://gumroad.com/l/MrMannequinsTools
Bookmarked ๐
I can't say I like that tool much. It seems convoluted. I just whipped up some bones myself and everything is hunky dory. I guess that plugin just saves time on retargeting really
the only bones are true bones ๐
You just need the bone for that.
lol wut
Bah... movies, have no time for that.
its about immersion man its like a drug... cuz I remember that one time I was doin ludes while playin pacman it was like life imitating art imitating life
That gotta be photorealistic surrealism ๐
that's a one long paragraph of text
anyway, that person has to hate 99% of the action movies
and 100% of scifi/fantasy
crime thrillers are the only genre
imagine if games were made with that logic
Hi<
has anybody have filled Form W-8BEN
I won megagrants, but I have to fill this form correctly
The problematic part in this form is Part II
Claim of Tax Treaty Benefits
I could not find anything related to grants with Turkey-US Treaty
Did you fill this part
?
How much Tax did they cut?
Why not consult an accountant?
First accountant did not know ๐ ?
did not understand, suggested me another accountant and he is on holiday
lol, anyway the first one which gonna know will tell you as correct as it should be.
yeah hopefully
When law is involved and you want to take specific actions, you have to really believe in the person.
Yeah, I am really waiting to fill those 2 questions for a week
thats why I thougth maybe someone experienced the same in this discord
Yeah, maybe there is some chance (minimal) to meet an accountant/layer here.
But take the phone and ring to some company or so to service you. That is if you don't want to wait. You may burn some money, but you gonna save much more? ๐
Good luck!
@surreal kelp try to find about the tax treaty between US and Turkey on both IRS (US) and your own tax related site
if there's no treaty at all, you just don't claim that on that form and you lose that 30% or whatever the tax is in such case
so, definitely check if the treaty still exists
also do note that even if your country had the treaty, that doesn't mean you wouldn't pay taxes for it, it just means tax isn't paid on US front
whatever happens on your country is another thing
(and that woud also be different if you got the grant for a company or personally)
W-8BEN suggest that you are an individual tho
we're having a small UE 4 workshop at work ๐ค
guess who volunteered to mentor the lot (me)
I guess I should mainly go over the game framework main classes and how they work and interact with each other ๐ค
Start with how to disable the 97 plugins you need to get rid of each project :p
I could probably make a script for that
but then everyone will say oh but I need this plugin on by default and after 96 PRs we're back where we started
gah I cant tell if this meat is bacon or ham...
I think its now both
Hi "Slackers",
it is encouraging to read other developers too. I am from germany and do mostly from 3d modeling to vfx effects. I started almost 2 years ago and just worked on learning my tools befor thinking of creating a game. Right now i am in the process to create my first game. I will present shortly my work in progress end of this month. Nice to meet ya all !
such NSFW content at #legacy-physics now
