But then, there are guilds in-game having fun.
#lounge
summer cedar
I know a German guy who runs around in a German guild with a 100 of his buds.
No, there are no gas chambers. ๐
pearl elk
I always thought what I call Everything Games were a design trap. Like some sort of infinite honeypot
mild gust
My issue is the levels it goes up to for tiers lol
Isn't it something like $14k for top tier ships
or donation
summer cedar
Indeed. The tiers are all money grabs.
14? When I checked 1.5 years ago, it was 10.
Not surprised it went up.
That's why I stopped at the initial $30.
mild gust
If Greydon Square hasn't quit that game will be fine
He is streaming right now I think
Nvm he was mixing today
Maybe making a new album
summer cedar
This is the latest SC episode.
Apparently, they added this Covid-inspired set of missions.
AND a new ship for players to buy. ๐คฃ
mild gust
14? When I checked 1.5 years ago, it was 10.
The Legatus pack is the most expensive thing available to buy in Star Citizen, it includes all ships either 'in concept' or released currently, along with a large variety of extra items such as ship paints and personal equipment, all ships have life-time insurance.[1]
The pack is only available for purchase by Concierge backers.[1] Although, there are currently conflicting reports about which Concierge ranks have access.
The 2023 Legatus pack - Legatus 2953[a] - costs US$48,000. It can be bought using store credit.
I was wrong
$48k
summer cedar
Oh yeah, I know about that. But, I thought that was a limited edition thing.
I guess they made it regular?
summer cedar
Well, the life-time insurance is not new for the purchased ships, actually.
I have busted my Aurora several times.
Always got a free replacement.
Unless that's changed in-game.
๐คทโโ๏ธ
pearl elk
Do you think theyre actually profitable or is the guy on top soaking up money?
summer cedar
Profitable in the sense they have revenue, yes.
pearl elk
Maybe he can buy a yacht and race Gabe
summer cedar
Profitable in the sense of a proper service generating money, no.
There's no service yet.
mild gust
Maybe he can buy a yacht and race Gabe
He won't race Gabe
Gabe owns a yacht manufacturer plant
pearl elk
But does he have a 48k starship?
mild gust
He could make one I'm sure
pearl elk
I bet Gabe does
summer cedar
Interesting. SC is adding VR mode.
mild gust
Owned by Gabe Newell
summer cedar
I am sure that's essential, instead of the SP campaign.
pearl elk
If I was Gabe Id be trading cards in the economy and making bank off my penny stocks
Just gen myself a few rare CS skins boopshoop
mild gust
He could sell small parts of a yacht
pearl elk
Who needs players when you have investors
pearl elk
They should add robotic horse racing
summer cedar
He could sell small parts of a yacht
Chris says Squadron 42 is complete and on track for this year's release. I wonder if he'll keep his word this time.
mild gust
I'll believe it when I see it
pearl elk
GTA6 isnt even a real game
mild gust
You get it
pearl elk
Its just Rockstar manipulating the market
mild gust
pearl elk
Basically game industry tariffs
pearl elk
Tarrifs... no wait no tariff... no wait more tariffs
mild gust
I had a co-worker invested in rockstar heavily last year
pearl elk
Superem court says no tariffs so we implemted new tariffs but those tariffs arnt tariffs
pearl elk
Im sure I'll be around to see the death of all the big AAAs
We'll get a complete reshuffle and it'll be 1989 all over again
lavish tendon
IMAGINE gta vi not coming to spain because of reasons out of my control it would be soo cool
anyway this cool game just released https://store.steampowered.com/app/2918310/Mamas_Sleeping_Angels/
summer cedar
Then they held stock too long and it crashed
I just joined SC's live stream for a few minutes.
It ain't bad. It's not 1 billion great, but not bad.
pearl elk
Whats compelling about the universe though? Like Foundatiom has the genetic dynasty, space elevators and androids. Dune has Spice, Bene Gesserit and Harkonnens... what is there in SC thats not just generic scifi?
mild gust
Whats compelling about the universe though? Like Foundatiom has the genetic dyna...
Bring back drones and planet drilling combat
That was entertaining content
summer cedar
It's probably the Kilrathi.
summer cedar
The Valkruth or whatever those raiders are called in SC - their ship designs resemble the Dralthi from Wing Commander.
Chris is staying true to his WC lore.
So, I think it'll be war between Terrans and those dudes.
pearl elk
Keep in mind the age of the IPs Im referencing too
summer cedar
It won't matter.
Those who like it will like it.
What matters is whether he ever finishes it.
At least if we can release Squadron 42, it'll make for a complete SP game.
Again, not a billion dollars worth, but better than GTA6. ๐คฃ
pearl elk
It will matter to longetivity past this generation
summer cedar
Past this generation, games will be holo-rooms with b00bies.
soft night
pearl elk
Whats the point of creating if its just going to fade to obsucirty when Windows 13 hits
summer cedar
Because you want to.
That's it, really.
If people remember it down the line, fine.
If not, also fine. I got your money.
summer cedar
Tetris.
pearl elk
Tolkein never got his money
soft night
Windows Squid hits
mild gust
Windows Crab edition
summer cedar
His grandson/son did.
mild gust
Everything becomes crab
pearl elk
But maybe thats the different between art and product like SC
summer cedar
No, it's just mortality.
And the times he was born in.
His family is rich now.
All off of his work.
One day, people will read this server's chat logs like it's an epic.
They'll be decoding Janisku's memes like they actually had meaning.
mild gust
Woah
summer cedar
They'll look at all the cool screenshots of Starfield and say, "WTF was NMS?"
pearl elk
And they'll know I was right about GTA6
summer cedar
They look at the Active Now audio/video channel screenshots and say, "Huh? They didn't have telepathy?"
Those people actually spoke?!!! ๐ฑ
pearl elk
They as in the AI that replace us obv
pearl elk
First human/android hybrid born 2035
mild gust
Words were real once
Never again
This woman is impressive, https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/can-ai-help-revitalize-indigenous-languages-180987060/
summer cedar
They'll look at Lucifer's posts and scream, "THE DEVIL WAS REAL?!!!! He posted there!"
pearl elk
Elon Musks son is President, 2043
mild gust
Elon Musks son is President, 2043
Vivian?
pearl elk
X replaces .gov 2045
summer cedar
The weather must be warmer now. Your hair is growing faster.
--- UN Security Council adopts Gulf countries draft resolution
The UN Security Council has adopted a draft resolution sponsored by the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) demanding that Iran stop its attacks against Gulf nations.
The resolution was approved with 13 votes in favour and two abstentions. No countries voted against the draft. ---
Good news.
Something useless has happened.
๐
@mild gust Dance with me. ๐
pearl elk
Baron Trump attempts a coup on Musks son 2048
mild gust
Something useless has happened.
Yay
summer cedar
Baron Trump attempts a coup on Musks son 2048
Musk's son swears at Baron on AITok, captured LIVE in the Brown House!
pearl elk
2055 after years of civil war in the US all non-Jesus video games are destroyed
summer cedar
This dude is apparently breaking NDA.
But, they made some combat changes recently. So, he's just explaining that.
His account might get banned. I hope he didn't invest more than $30.
pearl elk
Just crash the big ships into planets
pearl elk
And the planets still there
summer cedar
Dunno. I respawned on a station. ๐คฃ
pearl elk
You wiped out the dinosaurs you monster
summer cedar
I cannot deny that.
The explosion was large.
I never returned to the scene of my crime.
fleet tangle
His account might get banned. I hope he didn't invest more than $30.
You left out a 'k'
summer cedar
You left out a 'k'
No, no. I left out a 'K'.
summer cedar
https://tenor.com/view/no-mans-sky-gif-5793975
That's NMS, no?
The colour palette seems familiar.
Don't see bloom or rtx.
Sad. Also, I like the those sand-like particles falling down.
It's had enough of our spam for today.
We need more AI credits to embed.
Wokies! Sleep time. ๐ด
mild gust
Discord hates us now
Time to revolt
Yoo falling sand!
I was trying to make this in UE once
But I was being a bit silly
If I did it now I'd probably use niagara
X
Yoo he got more lasers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgereJP4x7U
lavish tendon
Electricity bill increased 900% in Spain XD
fleet tangle
@summer cedar Gem Miner TD was cool, but not really my thing.
queen isle
Souls combat is when the character rolls to dodge and DMC combat is when they attack fast
This guy speaks game journalists
mild gust
Oh joy a game glazing Russia as the good guys, already reported it.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3902520/Ukrainian_Warfare_Gostomel_Heroes/
summer cedar
Good morning! ๐ โ
summer cedar
https://t.co/ajT4pyHb1J
That's amazing work.
One of two things will happen: He'll be hired by Blizzard. He'll get a DMCA notice soon.
He should've called it Markblo 2: The Developer of Terror, thereby avoiding copyrights.
mild gust
Watch them add sex mechanics
summer cedar
I appreciate the dev log.
mild gust
Then it will be unique
summer cedar
Watch them add sex mechanics
YOU'RE RIGHT! At 1:25-ish, he says his demographic is 25-50 year old men.
Definitely need b00by Diablo.
mild gust
Virgin ho!
pearl elk
Definitely need b00by Diablo.
if this keeps up though games like that will all be age gated
summer cedar
if this keeps up though games like that will all be age gated
That's okay. Only the proper people should play games. ๐
pearl elk
I saw an article complaining kiddos in Australia could still purchase GTAV on Steam
but I do wonder what they were complaining about since Im pretty sure you need a CC to purchase on there so its already technically age gated
summer cedar
I was about to say the same. How would kiddos afford $50 games?
pearl elk
I suppose the paypal angle might be an issue since it allows linking to a bank account buuuuut... you have to be 18 to sign the paypal contract ๐
summer cedar
Need to check the war news and other stuff. Anime watching done.
Hah. Israel seems to be reconsidering its aggressiveness. Good.
Toxic pollution. Very nice.
pearl elk
Hah. Israel seems to be reconsidering its aggressiveness. Good.
oh yes good guy Israel
summer cedar
Yep. My support for them has all but evaporated, given their shenanigans.
Of course, getting slammed by rockets in the face would make anyone reconsider. So, good.
pearl elk
Id just like to know how they played this game on a new account without a CC which essentially verifys them as 18
summer cedar
The caption on the link you posted says they haven't implemented the +18 measures yet.
It's just in draft/law. So, that's probably how. Maybe you can make a trial account and not pay.
pearl elk
its actually law now, thats the argument is none of these companies are complying
every single game store is non-compliant lol
summer cedar
This law was passed recently, right?
mild gust
In which country?
summer cedar
If so, there's a grace period always provided for implementation.
Anywhere from 6 months to a year, sometimes 2 years.
mild gust
A lot of them recently yes
summer cedar
So, yeah, they can procrastinate as much as they want until that time.
pearl elk
yeah but they had a 6 months lead time and as it says in the article these companies were part of the formation of the way the law was implmented
summer cedar
The lead time is fine, but there's always a grace period after a bill becomes law.
The inspections and fines will start afterwards.
mild gust
AI porn deepfakes
pearl elk
Video game companies were involved in the more than two-year code drafting process through their Australian industry representative body, the Interactive Games & Entertainment Association, which counts Take Two, Sony and Microsoft as members.
summer cedar
```Video game companies were involved in the more than two-year code drafting pr...
Aye. That's the lobbying phase.
pearl elk
yeah but the law is in effect now, the grace period has finished
pearl elk
not here
summer cedar
Check in after 6 months.
Everywhere. Simply because it takes time to communicate between departments, companies, etc. etc. It's old-tech standards.
No country is special.
pearl elk
the law was signed in previous and is now in full effect after the grace period
summer cedar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srr0rRgF2Fw
Splatty is playing Among the Trolls.
Looks like a forest adventure.
I haven't seen any trolls yet.
mild gust
Lol Threat interactive beefing with Gamers Nexus is fun, https://x.com/GamersNexus/status/2031816947621396904
X
summer cedar
OH.
mild gust
Basically saying Unreal is shit all the time in his videos
summer cedar
Yeah, ๐คทโโ๏ธ , I don't follow their channel.
mild gust
and how he needs 900k to fix it
summer cedar
Yeah, I remember now. It's been mentioned before here.
summer cedar
But how will he fix an engine he doesn't own?
mild gust
Threat Interactive Video 18 deconstructs Clair Obscur's UE5 optimization failures to disprove the overwhelming internet claims hyping this game as a technical optimization masterpiece.
mild gust
But how will he fix an engine he doesn't own?
Commiting to it
He apparently made an ai commit
pearl elk
he could have written his own AA algorithm by now if he took all that movie making time out to do it
kids clearly got some skills and the drive, its just misdirected
summer cedar
He apparently made an ai commit
Can the general public make contributions to Epic's code?
mild gust
Can the general public make contributions to Epic's code?
Yes?
summer cedar
I have no idea.
summer cedar
Even if you contribute, Epic decides what to take and use, right?
pearl elk
Ive not seen him show a custom UE5 build with his changes which rectify the issues
some of the content is quite good but its always comparing other peoples work, he needs to bring his own to the table
if NFS 2015 did something better than current UE5, I wanna see that feature in UE5 for a direction apples to apples comparison, its difficult to trust cross engine comparisons because theres more to it than just post effects
I actually want a solution to the smeary images so I could care less about who insulted who
you cant tell me between Markiplier, Asmongold and Steve from GN they couldnt get it done to spite TI
but aye, tubers gonna tube while gamedevs get fired
summer cedar
๐คทโโ๏ธ I barely follow these people or watch their videos.
pearl elk
all I know is these guys are rich AF and dont care cuz they run 5090s
TI is pretty abrasive but his point kinda stands tbfh, Ive not seen anyone go at his point about smeary TAA and win yet
its always personal attacks, which to be fair he brings on himself
summer cedar
Does anyone with the skill and knowledge about it care enough to do so though?
I imagine those people are busy being productive and making money.
pearl elk
umm obviously they arnt being productive though if TIs point stands right
summer cedar
I don't think they care, though.
How many mass market gamers are busy observing minutiae in games?
pearl elk
I think thats the whole point of his argument is the industry just settles rather than trying to actually solve issues like smeary image quality
pearl elk
beyond the point though, it doesnt make him any less right
sure Slay the Spire 2, Mewgenics etc dont need smeary upscaling but he's clearly targeting a segment of the market he cares about
summer cedar
๐คทโโ๏ธ Far be it from me to diss on a YT-er getting clicks and making money.
Good on him.
This stuff is far better than those fashion/dance videos.
pearl elk
Ive actually learnt from his content, his frame breakdowns are some of the best Ive seen
Steve from GN is a smart cookie, same with Digital Foundry and even LTT but its pretty clear they gloss over the actual details in the frame and never show competing technologies side by side
summer cedar
Time for lunch!
pearl elk
if you actually saw non-DLSS new gsync next to the best from AMD the picture quality would be measurably different
that is a problem when all that is locked in behind proprietary hardware
I think the issue there is if Nvidia showed their edge side by side against AMD/Intel it wouldnt actually make them look good as a company
mild gust
Didn't Blue debunk all his points?
Then get his post deleted
Because TI is spineless
I mean the guy has to DMCA everyone that mentions him so.
pearl elk
nah about what I see is people actually agree with him in a way but they dont like his attitude
mild gust
He can't be that special
pearl elk
he actually calls one guy out from Epic consistently by name, he does that with Digital Foundry as well
pearl elk
hold on, I have to rewatch the entire video to say who
mild gust
Let me guess it's one graphic designer in particular probably the one that designed nanite or lumen
pearl elk
no they wrote the TAA in UE
pearl elk
thats TSR
pearl elk
or you know, you coulda watched it
pearl elk
the video in question, the latest one
pearl elk
nah I cant find it
mild gust
Brian Karis?
pearl elk
thats the one
mild gust
pearl elk
I musta skipped past it, its not the first time he's mentioned him by name
pearl elk
yeah but he doesnt go after nanite and lumen in the same way he does TAA
mild gust
What
pearl elk
its clearly the AA is his main complain
mild gust
He literally made a video shitting on a nanite tent
An entire 20 mins almost
Guys even DMCA striking twitter posts
He can disappear already
pearl elk
yeah Im not watching drama alert videos
mild gust
Go kick rocks down stream
pearl elk
if that guy goes after the actual content and not the drama but thats not what that thumbnail says to me
thats a hit piece
pearl elk
its not like TI is my friend so I dont actually care
pearl elk
but Im sure this little drama generates clicks
mild gust
That guy collects sticks like no one else
pearl elk
I might as well watch Beast games if Im gonna get into this stuff
maybe some Emi and Miz drama too
mild gust
Say what you will the odd time there's good moments in those ๐ even if it's rigged
Always 2x speed watch it though
Some people talk to slow
or are just slow
Also saves your time lol
pearl elk
I was watching it at 2x but I skipped past the start
mild gust
Happens
pearl elk
I still think TIs point stands, these tubers do all these tech comparisons of upscalers but dont really go in depth enough. Mind you even if consumers watch they'll still buy Nvidia
I just agree strongly that we COULD have better graphics quality at less processing cost
pearl elk
yeah but they dont compare AA anymore, its usually just a quick heres all the FSRs together, heres the DLSS... quickly move on
mild gust
Because upscaling is AA?
pearl elk
its more about the churn that proper frame breakdowns and the implications that has on hardware
mild gust
It replaces AA
pearl elk
Because upscaling is AA?
might as well be now
mild gust
You use one or the other usually
pearl elk
I cant remember the last time I saw someone ran higher than native
mild gust
DLAA stands exactly for, Deep Learning Anti-Aliasing
pearl elk
whats your point?
mild gust
We get our pick of the litter.
You can have shimmering or not
You can chose what you want your users to experience
pearl elk
because mine is that no one is showing native and above with AA anymore because theyre mostly running upscalers from below native
unborn lotus
He can disappear already
TI is a little bitch
pearl elk
most UE games shimmer, I dont get an option
summer cedar
Give them all options
No, Sir. Problem there.
- Too much work to make menus and options and such thingies.
- Gamers will complain that they don't understand 50% of the options and the other 50% is too much trouble to toggle.
mild gust
No, Sir. Problem there.
1. Too much work to make menus and options and such thin...
It's really not
Menus can be easy lol
pearl elk
DLSS 4.5 outperforms TAA
which is exactly TIs point dude... he thinks there should be solutions which arnt reliant on the most recent hardware from Nvidia
summer cedar
But a successful dev told me there're reasons he didn't provide many options. Those were the reasons.
mild gust
which is exactly TIs point dude... he thinks there should be solutions which arn...
But it's not?
summer cedar
And by successful, I mean millionaire. ๐
mild gust
It works on ALL nvidia hardware
pearl elk
most of us are on something OTHER THAN Nvidia
pearl elk
FSR still shimmers
mild gust
Yet
pearl elk
and Im not that many gens behind
how about a solution to make TAA not complete shit, TI is showing its possible
summer cedar
--- Overall Desktop Market Share: NVIDIA captured approximately 88% to 95% of the discrete desktop GPU market as of late 2025/early 2026, while AMD's share dropped to roughly 5% to 12%.
Steam User Distribution: Historically, NVIDIA users have outnumbered AMD users by a ratio of roughly 4 to 1. In late 2023, the split was approximately 82% for NVIDIA and 14% for AMD. ---
Monopolies ftw.
mild gust
how about a solution to make TAA not complete shit, TI is showing its possible
When has he shown anything
NEVER
pearl elk
I just wish I had the skills to just do it myself
mild gust
Literally just lies all the time
pearl elk
MSAA, SMAA, AO etc can all be improved
but theres no incentive when your making bank on hardware
pearl elk
Lumen showed we dont need to rely solely on Nvidia
unborn lotus
When has he shown anything
he has shown "optimizing" a UE scene by reducing gigantic attenuation radiuses for lights to normal sizes, what a genius
pearl elk
most peoples monitors cant even do real black screens
unborn lotus
He's a nonce.
just rides the TAA hate train for his own gains
mild gust
just rides the TAA hate train for his own gains
I admit it's not perfect
unborn lotus
most peoples monitors cant even do real black screens
mine can if I turn it off, 100% black
summer cedar
So, just another Youtuber, then?
pearl elk
mine can if I turn it off, 100% black
doubtful, its still reflective
summer cedar
But I don't claim to need 900k to fix it.
Don't you want 900k, though?
mild gust
Don't you want 900k, though?
Not for that
summer cedar
No, no.
mild gust
I'd rather earn it
summer cedar
Don't you want it?
Yep. Pretty much what he's doing.
He doesn't care one bit less if it's fixed or not.
mild gust
No he's an e-begger.
summer cedar
He wants the money.
mild gust
That's all he literally is.
summer cedar
You are defining businesses.
mild gust
and a liar ofc
summer cedar
Get the money, that's the principle.
pearl elk
again people dont go after his points they attack him as a person, I got no stake in that... just boring e-drama
what tuber isnt a begger tbh
ohhh the algorithm hurt me this week, sub... like... please sir
unborn lotus
again people dont go after his points they attack him as a person, I got no stak...
well everyone that does is copyright striked
pearl elk
and you talk like he's some legend.
you dont watch his videos, sure some of his stuff is wank but he's smarter than me at rendering
pearl elk
and I been doing this shit 30 years
pearl elk
look he's a little shit, we all were in our 20s
mild gust
Yeah na
pearl elk
he's got a temper like mine back then too
mild gust
He can raise 900k like a good boy by working
pearl elk
total cock face
mild gust
and fix it himself
pearl elk
but he does have some points that people would listen to
summer cedar
I wasn't a little shit in my 20s though.
mild gust
I've listened plenty
pearl elk
but unfortunately it taints everyone
mild gust
He's wrong most of the time
mild gust
Your right on some points
But anytime you defend him I have no interest
Guy made an ai generated pr
pearl elk
Im not defending him at all
mild gust
He's just wasting everyones time
pearl elk
Im defending the point from criticism of him personally
pearl elk
I agree with his points to a degree, I dont like him and I dont have to
mild gust
I do agree with his oblivion remaster point
On that unoptimized tent
That's just silly
But when he critisized silent hill 2
Made no sense
2080 super did it justice
He has a better pc than that and he said it looked like shit
pearl elk
abit of a story about me, in my 20s I said Minecraft wasnt a survival game because Id only seen people play build mode... completely idiotic, some younger guy chewed me out about the ender dragon... I acted all high and mighty, I shouldnt have but we learn right
so just like TI and Pirate Software... been there, fucked it up
and Im a better dev now for it
mild gust
Unlike Pirate Software TI didn't dox anyone
pearl elk
so dont completely write someone off
if they actually break harsh laws etc yeah fuck em]\
mild gust
Yeah
I don't fuck with doxing
To be fair
He was swatted
But either way
I can't recall if that was related but I imagine he is fatigued in general
pearl elk
Im a big fan of rehabilitation for petty crimes or mistakes, obviously second chances only come once though
mild gust
I watch pirate softwares streams sometimes
and I saw him playing osrs he was dcing a lot
Kept saying people were ddosing him specifically
summer cedar
I think if you are keeping track of so much YT-drama, you are doing it a bit much though. ๐
pearl elk
but as I got older I realised I was the biggest obstacle in my learning, I needed to take what people were saying onboard
mild gust
I think if you are keeping track of so much YT-drama, you are doing it a bit muc...
Nothing wrong with a little TL:DR sometimes
MorePegasus covers many things ๐
I like pirate software as an entertainer
Dev eh
pearl elk
I dont always need to agree but Im a much better designer, Im not some void whos just like "oh my games great" even when everyone says otherwise so you gotta be open to that feedback. If Im going to say TI needs to pull his head in I could say that about most the games industry, we keep making these big games no one fucken wants
summer cedar
Is Crimson Desert western or eastern?
mild gust
Korean
pearl elk
pretty positive so far, might not be a game for me but Im sure open world players are excited
pearl elk
that said it depends on the design, Darklands had this huge map but you didnt need to play on most of it. That does beg the question why we make games that large if less than 1% of players see most of it
summer cedar
Darklands; that reminds me of another game that was notorious during early-WoW-MMO days.
It was also similarly called Dark-something.
The dev was Heinrich, if I remember.
He was called a scammer and a nepo-baby, and whatnot.
The flaming and trolling around the game was more than the in-game activity.
mild gust
Ah
pearl elk
Geoff Keighley is actually a nepo-baby
summer cedar
Or so the rumours were floating around.
The first game was a graphical mess, but it was purely PvP. He made a sequel instead of fixing the first. That was also a PvP game.
You can imagine how toxic the crowd was.
mild gust
Geoff Keighley is actually a nepo-baby
The Canadian?
pearl elk
The Canadian?
This is his dad thats why he's got so many industry connects
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0445032/
summer cedar
Oh, I was right.
It was Darkfall 1 and 2.
The company was Aventurine SA.
Henrik Nystrรถm
pearl elk
why does that name sound familiary
summer cedar
'cuz of what I said before.
mild gust
Swedish golfer?
summer cedar
It's an ancient MMO with a very controversial dev... him.
DF 1 was released in 2009.
mild gust
That's when he fractured his knee
๐ฎ
A fractured left knee ruled him out of action for the whole of 2009, qualifying him for a medical exemption for the 2010 season.
summer cedar
I think Darkfall 2 was renamed Mortal Online in 2010.
I might be wrong though, I have forgotten most of that story.
mild gust
No cap
pearl elk
That's when he fractured his knee
took an arrow to the knee obv
summer cedar
I want March 17th to come faster.
I want to know what God Todd did to Starfield.
๐ฅ
pearl elk
I remember mortal online, was that Unreal Engine?
summer cedar
Yes. UE 3.
pearl elk
yeah I might know Henrik in passing then perhaps
I do remember in the UDK days I got in a debate with someone, they turn around... oh yeah Im the head of MTX for EA Mobile
didnt make much difference to me tbh ๐
summer cedar
Time to record game videos for a bit.
mild gust
Ew EA mobile
pearl elk
I think another Henrik I knew went on to work at Bioware
mild gust
Got some demos and other random stuff to play.
Did you claim that free steam game
summer cedar
Yeah, I've had the Deponia series.
pearl elk
wonder how many of those kiddos back in the day actually made it into the biz
summer cedar
I don't remember if it's via Game Pass or what.
Never played it though.
Reminded me of a lot of adventure games I loved back in the day.
Quest for Glory and Police Quest were my favourite.
Sierra was god-like back then.
Apogee wasn't far behind.
Raptor: Call of the Shadows was a hit. ๐
Lucifer, I never asked you. How old are you now?
pearl elk
I played one at that nextfest demos that was exactly like Day of the Tentacle
mild gust
Oddworld Inhabitants was a good studio too
summer cedar
Ah. Did you ever get to play Sierra games?
mild gust
Ye
summer cedar
Like not on an emulator.
pearl elk
Ah. Did you ever get to play Sierra games?
I played Half-life ๐น
mild gust
Kings quest
summer cedar
And damn, those games were HARD.
summer cedar
Kings quest
King's Quest is spectacular too.
The only problem is that like Space Quest, it's very easy to die.
mild gust
Frogger
summer cedar
I finished everything, except Space Quest.
pearl elk
Monkey Island took ages
pearl elk
Tex Murphy
pearl elk
I do like that those adventure games kinda evolved to have action sequences with QTEs
pearl elk
I liked Tribes Vengance SP ๐
mild gust
and this, Pharaoh
fleet tangle
You should check out the upcoming Broadside fpsz game. Small plug
mild gust
I played ALOT of pharaoh
although I own it today and I can't remember half of what to do
summer cedar
Getting the brick-layers to reliably transport bricks to the pyramid construction sites was a PITA.
They just refused sometimes, when the simulation got big enough.
pearl elk
I liked Interstate 76
summer cedar
You should check out the upcoming Broadside fpsz game. _Small plug_
Did you make this game?
fleet tangle
I'm on the team that's making it.
summer cedar
It isn't showing up on Steam.
summer cedar
Wrong plug detected.
mild gust
mild gust
Lol this seems not it but hey
fleet tangle
We really need to update those graphics.
mild gust
Oh is it?
summer cedar
I was about to say.
fleet tangle
And just everything.
fleet tangle
Website is shitty, this I can agree on.
mild gust
๐
pearl elk
you have a website though
mild gust
I talk when I have mine saying 2025 still to
summer cedar
Meh. Everything should be ready for release. Other than that, do whatever.
Complainers will complain.
mild gust
You guys can tell me to shut up you know ๐
summer cedar
I talk when I have mine saying 2025 still to
The right text should be - Copyright SINCE 20whatever.
So, you don't have to update the current year.
mild gust
Idk my web dev aunt told me to update it last year ๐
To be fair
She's just a graphic designer
I didn't want to argue
summer cedar
Just, huh? ๐
fleet tangle
Meh. Everything should be ready for release. Other than that, do whatever.
I like to plug where appropriate, though.
summer cedar
While fair, your plug should also have a wire attached to it, leading somewhere. ๐
mild gust
Why
summer cedar
To avoid explosive short-circuitry.
Unless you're Hasan's dog planning to kill him.
pearl elk
free kayo?
mild gust
https://tenor.com/view/john-wick-hasan-save-kaya-kaya-hasan-kaya-hasan-shock-gif-4397688247342525507
summer cedar
Has she ever been seen thereafter?
pearl elk
I wonder if he uses those collars on his other dogs like denims
mild gust
I wonder if he uses those collars on his other dogs like denims
You mean the dog that had blood around it's neck?
That randomly went missing
He claimed "died"
Also yanked that dog by the tail
Causing possible nerve damage to the dog
pearl elk
You mean the dog that had blood around it's neck?
I was hinting at his female orbiters tbh ๐
fleet tangle
I was hinting at his female orbiters tbh ๐
Specifically saying denims isn't really hinting ๐
pearl elk
theres definitely an alt-left isnt there
mild gust
That girl takes OF images with hitler.
pearl elk
Specifically saying denims isn't really hinting ๐
yeah well Ethan can thank me later ๐
mild gust
So yea..
pearl elk
tbh theres only 1 political commentator on YT I always enjoy
mild gust
Asmonbald?
pearl elk
Shoe0nHead
mild gust
Oh same
pearl elk
shes always a good laugh
fleet tangle
Shoe0nHead
Shoe is great.
mild gust
Commie Mommy
pearl elk
I find the Texans alittle too rowdy
mild gust
Brandon Herrera?
proud jay
Hanna Barbera?
pearl elk
firearms manufacturer... so he makes ACME rockets?
mild gust
Na he's currently making a custom 50 cal rifle though
Been tweaking it for a while
But Texas was trying to change gun laws
That would make what he does impossible so
pearl elk
Im still miffed that Google banned Kalashnikov Group
mild gust
I mean
pearl elk
Their YT channel was epic
rocky trout
again people dont go after his points they attack him as a person, I got no stak...
his "points" are bogus, his nanite video is a joke, he shows out of context half baked examples to prove his point. he takes criticisms from devs out of context and says "see guys this dev is an idiot, I am the messiah of graphics" , he spreaded disinformation about NvRTX. he himself admitted he has no clue about graphics programming several times in the graphics programming server. when a moderator asked him whe he wants to write a paper (aka make videos) on the subject he himself doesn't understand he literally replied "Neither does my audience". And notice how he never ever recommends an industry standard book or two to the ones who are genuinely interested in graphics, rather he just says "just see my videos".
pearl elk
hey you coulda debated, instead you say haha
rocky trout
I have never ever see him participate in a healthy discussion, he either deletes proper criticism, or gives them straightup insults replies, and says "see guys no dev is able to prove me wrong", ofcourse no one can prove him wrong if he keeps deleting everythinng, like i said, the actual criticisms are gonna end up in an out of context stories in his next videos.
pearl elk
People used to us the "youre crazy" on me alot, just shut me down rather than try to go after the actual point I was trying to make. I just think its sad we cant have a proper discussion about graphics fidelity especially in a server where its worth discussing
to be fair, its lounge
rocky trout
his channel is biggest proof that if someone mixes some truths with a lot of lies and shows some graphs, pictures, numbers then you can gaslight anyone who doesn't know any better. 99% of his viewers just assumes he is some expert because he throws a lot of technical jargon with full confidence.
pearl elk
as a developer I need real solutions that dont require proprietary hardware, I need solutions which are portable as Epic allows us to access cross platform development so easily. Instead we just skip over any actual talk of the graphics fidelity and how we can make games look better and more performant which only solidifies what he's saying. I got no stake in this race past that!
rocky trout
@pearl elk I don't disagree with the takes that modern games getting blurry and all, you don't need an "expert" to say that. can't allow these scammers to take advanatge out of the state of the industry.
pearl elk
I can tell you now some of his frame break downs are genius for someone his age
rocky trout
as a developer I need real solutions that dont require proprietary hardware, I n...
"actual talk of the graphics fidelty" - my dude, once take a look at graphics programming server, HDR den and some others, he is a clown there, they all laugh at his idiotic graphics takes.
pearl elk
back in the UDK days when I was in my mid-late 20s, Epic would implement an AO update and Id just sort of nod in agreement, I didnt know enough to even counter point. I do know they lowered AO quality back then and it was never increased just more systems added
but aye if thats a crazy take just because its seen as some anti-Epic sentiment and no pro-fidelity so be it
I feel like one of the reasons my opinion mattered and I became an UE4 founder is because I wasnt a yes man
rocky trout
*you * became an UE4 founder ??
pearl elk
I was actually selected, I didnt have much choice in it ๐
rocky trout
like what is founder here? except being founder of a company ?
pearl elk
basically when I saw the material editor was back to front compared to blueprint, I just said plainly... hey Epic, you should flip it... It wasnt this huge hit takedown agenda against me because I proposed someone make something better
as I said TI could improve his attitude but he's obviously passionate. Ive seen poeple go way harder over a 0.2 of damage on a shotgun cone in a shooter
rocky trout
like I said, it isn't just his attitude, his videos are misinformation at best and disinformation at worst. I am mainly referring his takes on nanite, dude activates nanite on 12 30k meshes, shows the base cost and says "see guys, nanite is this bad, lets use an AI generator for LODs" ๐คฃ
pearl elk
the nanite argument is weak since most of his videos are frame breakdowns which dont include nanites
no one should be using social engineering bollox, makes everyone look bad an incapable of real debate
rocky trout
@pearl elk he keeps screaming about the quad overdraw without ever mentioning nanite uses software rasterizer for small traingles so quad overdraw is eliminated. guess what ,even he knows that but intenionally hides that anyway. Also in his later videos he implies nanite uses quads and then he lied he never implied nanite uses quads. Oh but he did in his SH2 video, a lie to cover up another lie.
rocky trout
no one should be using social engineering bollox, makes everyone look bad an inc...
what is "social engineering bollox"?
pearl elk
hey look, Ive done tests and there are instances where meshes seem to almost disappear, whether its nanite or lumen I dunno... it happens in BL4 though and you see some real agressive pop in. I did a test with a wheel and at a certain point the middle of the wheel completely disappears. We need to recognize these systems arnt perfect and even if you think he's wrong point it out and then point out where he could focus instead, we all know Epic could do better
rocky trout
@pearl elk and he is the reason why people think NvRTX is "BaReLy UE5 aNyMore", oh man look at the source code comparisons, Nvrtx just adds nvidia tech to ue5, it doesn't gutt out anything. - A lie again.
pearl elk
but instead we'll waste time talking about the guy personally, which I dont really care about
mild gust
Material Compatibility Issues:
Nanite meshes may disappear or appear as a fallback mesh if the material assigned is not compatible. Nanite only supports specific shading models, such as Opaque and Masked.?
pearl elk
I cant even tell you what causes it because Im not versed in the software to break down frames like TI is, Im a programmer out of necessity because as a designer or tech artist if I need something done its easier to do it myself than try to explain it to dense people
rocky trout
but instead we'll waste time talking about the guy personally, which I dont real...
I am talking about the actual technical stuff he spreaded but you keep saying we are attakcing him perosnally ?? sure buddy, even after all these lies and maniipulations you think he is a trustworthy source, you do you.
mild gust
I cant even tell you what causes it because Im not versed in the software to bre...
But people that know the software have called him out?
pearl elk
I will take the bits I trust and use them ofcoarse, one wrong thing doesnt make him entirely wrong on every level
mild gust
and literally made him look like a tool
pearl elk
show me
rocky trout
hey look, Ive done tests and there are instances where meshes seem to almost dis...
idk about meshes disappearing, I didn't personally see it nor ddid he make that statements in his video.
mild gust
You won't watch it?
pearl elk
show me someone breaking it down like he does
pearl elk
I want to see the frame times
mild gust
Na
You can find it
I'm not wasting anymore time on this you won't listen even if I make a neon sign.
pearl elk
that thumbnail was total bullshit, it might as well have TI with devil horns
rocky trout
show me someone breaking it down like he does
not every expert GPer has time to do that as they got all day jobs.
mild gust
that thumbnail was total bullshit, it might as well have TI with devil horns
It should have been tbh
Guy's a bad actor
pearl elk
who cares
mild gust
Real devs?
pearl elk
if he's so bad why are you guys wasting so much time on him?
mild gust
Not some fake grifting kid
pearl elk
youre just giving him coverage
mild gust
By calling him on his bs?
pearl elk
I was done and you guys drag it back up
you'll keep dragging it as long as it gets you attention
rocky trout
I will take the bits I trust and use them ofcoarse, one wrong thing doesnt make ...
see, I am not any expert either, but some simple tests and some easy to find info and he is wrong on that , and you think he is not wrong anywhere despite many actual graphics programmers with actual portfolios saying he has no clue?
pearl elk
thats all talk, Im not trusting you as much as Im not trusting him
rocky trout
thats all talk, Im not trusting you as much as Im not trusting him
sure, go to GP server.
pearl elk
I can point to all these imaginary graphics programmers too
mild gust
that thumbnail was total bullshit, it might as well have TI with devil horns
Also you shit talk that thumbnail when all of TI's are the exact same.
rocky trout
sure, just try learning from reputable sources
pearl elk
I honestly just want fucken better fuckinf graphics for fuck sake
I dont care who does it
mild gust
It wont be him
pearl elk
it could be Trump for all I care
mild gust
So don't hold your breath
rocky trout
not the nobodies who are heavily critized by devs and GPers who has actually done stuff.
pearl elk
I dont hhave to agree with them but I just know it wont happen
I'll be forced to buy a 10k GPU
I would learn from reputable sources if they wernt too busy aye
I watch as much as I can get from ID tech etc but none of em are breaking down and comparing numerous game engines, AA techniques and frametimes
Im entirely capable of taking on board the data presented without listening to the opinions
mild gust
Would be cool if he wouldnt DMCA strike everyone so their videos are taken down constantly
๐
summer cedar
Finished recording one video and popped back in... to see this.
Interesting.
Where's my popcorn?
Lucifer, why didn't you make any?
mild gust
Costs to much
summer cedar
Icecorn even... Hotcorn too... Maplecorn why not?
Ha! Just make one 100k kernel and nanite it. ๐
pearl elk
I used a 1 million poly mesh before nanite
summer cedar
Wokays, back to recording next video. ๐น
pearl elk
okay so first point bad graphs on TIs clip lololol like AMD and Nvidia do good ergraphs
100X the performance at the price of a 1080
jeez, if its all like this its just as much as waste of time as watching the TI clip twice now
mild gust
jeez, if its all like this its just as much as waste of time as watching the TI ...
If you don't believe us search Blue mans responses about TI in this discord.
He literally debunks that moron for days.
pearl elk
I was there when he said it
but after that TI talk went quiet and his videos got abit better tbh
rocky trout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCKDr8ADd_w
yeah this is actually enough, but again his fans would go "WheRe Does ThIs aDDress His TecHnical ClAims" , like I don't need to know the act of theivery to slap a theif. I don't need to learn killing to slap a murderer, somone's "knowledge" doesn't save them from their crimes.
mild gust
yeah this is actually enough, but again his fans would go "WheRe Does ThIs aDDre...
His fans would play ai slop
pearl elk
the Markiplier short was worse than the latest one tbh
mild gust
Also Dallas Drapeau has been nothing but kind to TI
pearl elk
why arnt we going after Markiplier and Asmongold for promoting him?
pearl elk
nah buttsniffers thats why
mild gust
Who cares about their opinions
rocky trout
Because they are gamers
more like G@mers(TM).
pearl elk
people hope they might play their game one day
mild gust
TI is pushing a narrative
for free $$
900k
Guys a grifter just in it for $
All there is to it
Makes that $ off youtube already
pearl elk
honestly the best take down I can see is the one I already did and everyone ignored
rocky trout
yeah like the engine devs and studios have millions and they can't supposedly fix a graphics issue but a guy with a 3060 laptop without ever being done any GP will fix it if he has $900k.
pearl elk
these days games dont need good graphics to be successful, its almost a push back against it because it represents the little guy versus the establishment
mild gust
So he can mald again and delete another server when he is criticized?
Oh poor TI
Him and all his alt accounts
That spew his garbage
Guy literally harasses our entire community
No one likes him
How many reddit accounts does he have now 6?
pearl elk
so this video you linked only addresses his most recent video, it doesnt show any frametimes?
mild gust
Too many
mild gust
so this video you linked only addresses his most recent video, it doesnt show an...
This videos over a year old
Still proving he's full of shit
rocky trout
yeah like the engine devs and studios have millions and they can't supposedly fi...
and I wonder, if he is a "CEO" and don't even have money of atleast 900K to hire GPers , then how the hell is his studio already comprises of expert GPers and how he pays them salaries ๐คฃ ? This alone should tell everything.
pearl elk
trying to answer all these tags, watch, cook dinner
mild gust
He be doing what he's been doing for years.
It's just dmca after dmca
Lie after lie
Same old TI
Nothing new
pearl elk
and you needed 5 lines for that
mild gust
Yup
People like him are why graphics stay behind
Kek
Cry wolf solve nothing
Child tactic
rocky trout
I love how he always say "we" when fighting with a random redditor. "**we ** have looked at your comment and decided that it is best to not waste **our ** time on it."
pearl elk
Like I said, Im just out to make better graphics in my games using every piece of available info to do so.
trying so hard to silence someone comes off as suspect and looks liike there is something to hide so we should just let him have his say and move on
rocky trout
I love how he always say "we" when fighting with a random redditor. "**we ** hav...
like why would a CEO and his entire studio read and discuss about a reddit comment and then collectively comment lol.
pearl elk
if we tried to save every fool and their money we'd have no time
mild gust
trying so hard to silence someone comes off as suspect and looks liike there is ...
That's like saying we shouldn't try to silence anti-vaxxers.
pearl elk
hey Im no flat earther but I wouldnt blast them with a megaphone
mild gust
Na shoot them into the sun
pearl elk
they'll do that themselves... well atleast try and theres proof
mild gust
They endanger humanity with their non-sense
pearl elk
so we should just let TI build his rocket and then accidently kill himself with it
rocky trout
trying so hard to silence someone comes off as suspect and looks liike there is ...
I love how this actually applies to that scammer^^
pearl elk
They endanger humanity with their non-sense
slippery slope, especially if we get into climate politics
Im leaving it here because its okay to disagree
mild gust
Thanks China
pearl elk
Theyve been doing well on their energy mix according to what Windus posted recently
Not as good as India mind you
mild gust
32.88% of global emissions?
pearl elk
That was solid data
pearl elk
Its typically measured per person to make it more comparible
If you have 32% of the Earths population or more ot makes sense right?
Australia still probably supplies most of Chinas coal btw so you can put some of that on us
We also supply a large chunk (~20%) of the US' uranium
They might have to fight Nvidia for the name, they been on a mega streak too
lavish tendon
it runs on their own os and it works half the time, everytime!
mild gust
Idk man I wouldn't want to live in most these places with all that smog, https://climatetrace.org/explore#admin=China (CHN):1:CHN:country&gas=co2e&year=2025&timeframe=100§or=&asset=15190
Unless it's north
pearl elk
You shoulda seen London couple of centuries back
mild gust
Bad enough in Toronto
๐
We used to have acid rain
Cool times
To be fair the rain is what helped
Remove the smog
pearl elk
Then you stopped using hairspray and its all fixed
mild gust
Primarily caused by sulphur dioxide (SOโ) and nitrogen oxides (NOx) emissions from industrial sources like the Sudbury smelters and vehicle exhaust.
All wonderful biproducts
summer cedar
Akshually, someone living in Delhi experimented with an N95 mask and an air quality sensor.
Seems a genuine N95 reduces the air pollution down to perfectly safe levels.
The AQI went down from 125 something to just 15.
mild gust
I hope so
mild gust
Those filters don't fk around
But who wants to wear a mask 24/7
or at least while outside
summer cedar
And yeah, Cal's right about the emissions. I had posted that video analysing it. India and China are basically far ahead of the clean-emissions curve, but of course, the huge populations will naturally mean more carbon farts.
mild gust
Yeah having some regions in red zones is normal..
pearl elk
I heard flying the F35s in Canada do heaps of damage to the arctic
mild gust
I heard flying the F35s in Canada do heaps of damage to the arctic
Pissing on the snow does damage to the arctic
Arctic is fucked
summer cedar
If you are judging by colours, then you aren't reading the data, which is sad. There's no way those red zones will become 'super clean' simply because of the density of population.
Unless of course, we invent super purifiers or something.
mild gust
I heard flying the F35s in Canada do heaps of damage to the arctic
You forget America flies over us often.
summer cedar
Someone tried that recently, too. I've no idea what the result of that experiment was. It was this HUGE park purifier.
mild gust
Had a Lockheed C-130 Hercules fly over the other day.
summer cedar
Well, you are the 51st state.
mild gust
B2 bomber a few months ago
pearl elk
You forget America flies over us often.
Yeah that was the complaint against Norad and yanks "closing the gap" in security
summer cedar
Where else will they fly?
mild gust
The ocean?
summer cedar
No. That's not the Ocean of America yet.
summer cedar
๐ Why do you think they fly over Canada? They consider it their own.
summer cedar
They were doing that pre-Orange, too.
mild gust
Should say more
summer cedar
They are all just doing the same thing after Mein Farter disrupted stuff.
The idiot.
summer cedar
So long as they get some free coffee for their trouble.
mild gust
They pay
summer cedar
"Ma'am, can I see your ID?"
"Sure, Sonny. Would you like a doughnut?"
"Thanks, Ma'am."
mild gust
They usually tip well tbf
mild gust
I agree with water
summer cedar
At least one cup of the finest brew every day.
mild gust
Some people can't have coffee
mild gust
You can be allergic to caffeine.
pearl elk
Nestle will give you coffee in exchange for water